The 640 MEG Shareware Studio 4/The 640 Meg Shareware Studio CD-ROM Volume IV (Data Express)(1994).ISO/fidomail/cdsale.txt

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**** Conference [ 15] - (Fido) CD ROM for Sale

From: WAYNE ASHWORTH                         Number: 1
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/28/93 11:35p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Would appreciate being added to the mailing list, adult titles included.

Wayne Ashworth
POB 882
Salisbury NC 28145-0882

 * SLMR 2.1a * If you don't think women are explosive, drop one.

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2
  To: CHRIS BARRETT                            Date: 05/27/93  8:47a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CB>   Yep, I am interested in the Adult stuff (even if I don't have a hope in
h
  >of getting them into Canada! <smile>).

Consider yourself added.  I'll get one out to you.  Where there's a
will, there's a way! <G>

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3
  To: DENNIS BRIGGS                            Date: 05/27/93  8:48a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DB>Add me to your list please.

You got it, Dennis.  You should see it in the mail real soon.  Thanks
for your interest.

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4
  To: DEAN SCOTT                               Date: 05/27/93  8:50a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DS>I'll take one of those catalogs.

I'll get one right out to you, Dean.  Thanks for your interest!

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 5
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 05/27/93  8:52a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CB>Chris Bourne

Thanks, Chris.  I'll get one right out to you.

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 6
  To: ERIC NELSON                              Date: 05/27/93  8:55a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EN>Please include my name to your mailing list, also include adult titles.

Consider yourself included, Eric.  Thanks for your interest!

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 7
  To: PIERRE PROULX                            Date: 05/27/93  8:57a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PP>Please add my name to your mailing list

You're added, Pierre.  Thanks for your interest!

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 8
  To: TIM DOWELL                               Date: 05/27/93  9:51a
Subj: Pioneer DRM 604X                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TD>I have Pioneer DRM-604X that I would like to sell.  It's three  months
old,
  >works like a charm, and is in excellent condition.

Hi Tim.  I am interested in this.  Please give me a call at (205)
793-4481 to discuss arrangements.  Thanks.

                                                Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 9
  To: DAN CEPPA                                Date: 05/28/93 11:39p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC>Please send me one, Thanks

Sure thing, Dan.  I'll get one out to you.  Thanks for your interest!

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 10
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 05/28/93 11:40p
Subj: Free cd-rom catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PJ>I would like a catalog sent to me at the following address:

You're on the list, Paul.  You may already have the list by the time you
get this message.  Let me know if I can help you with anything.

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 11
  To: THE SISTER                               Date: 05/28/93 11:45p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >       Please Add me to your mailing list. I run a Mostly Adult BBS in
Iowa.
  >I can be reached at the Below Fido Address and Snail Mail at the
Following:

I'll get you a price list out in the mail.  Maybe I can supply what you
are looking for.  Thanks for asking!

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: GREGORY YERXA                          Number: 12
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/26/93  5:10p
Subj: CDs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        I am interested in any cheap ($10-$20) CDs.  I just got a drive
and want to establisha file base for a BBS.  All shareware please.  I will
also be interested in Game CDs (Cheap though).

Thanks,

Greg

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 13
  To: MARIO BONELLI                            Date: 05/28/93  5:45p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den Inc. CD Complaint!  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to ALL <05-26-93 23:20> Mario Bonelli wrote:

MB>> It is taking too long for you guys to come up with another CD! :^)
                                   ^^^^

You mean "Gal", yes ? Be patient, they are in the works :)

MB>> What are your availble titles, and are there anymore in the making?

Secret.

MB>> I own Ecstasy Hot Pics, and Busty Babes!

You have impeccable taste !

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 14
  To: JOHN HUGHES                              Date: 05/28/93 12:00p
Subj: OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JH>I'm looking for the Oxford English Dictionary. Does anyone know who
JH>has the best price? The suggested retail price for the two-disk set is
JH>$895.


The OED II at about $895 U.S. is one disc. There was an earlier two-disc
DOS version (only the original OED, none of them OED II updates). If you
are going to spend that kind of money, make sure you are getting the OED
II. Cheers!
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From: IAN LEVSTEIN                           Number: 15
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/28/93  4:54p
Subj: Encyclopedia Britannica                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Has the Encylopedia Britannica been released on CD yet?  If so, could you
give me an idea of the cost, and the distributor.


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From: JEAN-GUY PARE                          Number: 16
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 05/28/93  7:09a
Subj: Re: NEW GAMES DISK                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Allo Boris,

-> Already on it's way Jean !!!

     Thank, I try to sent you a net mail direct on your bbs, your modem
answer
but he dont accept my messsage, is the trouble is on my or your side?
    Thank for your CD list.

         Jean-Guy
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From: DOUG ADAMS                             Number: 17
  To: ROGER COLLINS                            Date: 05/28/93 12:53a
Subj: Adult ROMs Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RC>-> RC>I can offer 20.00 shipped pre-paid for Volcano. Acceptable?
RC>Call m
RC>-> RC>at 614-793-7291 if so.
RC>->
RC>-> I'll let you have it for $27.90.  That is $25.00 plus $2.90 for
RC>shipp
RC>-> I have yet to see Volcano at less than $36.00.  With shipping
RC>$4.00,
RC>-> totals $40.00.  I think it's a pretty good deal.
RC>->
RC>
RC>I've seen it go new for 32.95, so I feel 20.00 + shipping for a used
RC>disc is fair. If you change your mind, let me know.

Seeing as how a used CD is indistinguishable from a new CD (assuming it is
unscratched, as mine are), I don't agree.  But, it is your choice.  I'll
keep you in mind.

d

BTW, you offered $20 post-paid, not $20 plus shipping.


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 18
  To: JERE WESSELL                             Date: 05/29/93  8:42a
Subj: ASIAN LADIES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JW>ASIAN LADIES IS PRODUCED BY SEXY CD SOFTWARE, INC
JW>                             MIAMI, FL
JW>CAN ANYONE GIVE ME A FULL ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER.
JW>I NEED TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT USING MY COPYRIGHTED GIFS ON THEIR CD ROM.
JW>JERE WESSELL
JW>NIGHTHAWK BBS [phone]
JW>LAS VEGAS, NV

If you find out, will you let me know? I'd like to talk to them myself.

Terry Woodward
The Library BBS
305-581-4983

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * I think sex is better than logic, but I can't prove
it.


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 19
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  8:47a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the following Cd's for trade.
Smutware
My private collection,volume 2
Adult reference library
PC-Pix, volume 2

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Love is grand.  Divorce, twenty grand.


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 20
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  8:50a
Subj: CDrom Statistics                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Someone here was collecting statistics on the CDrom industry to
influence potential investors. If you have any projections from an
industry recognized source (sales of drives for next year, growth in
titles projected, revenue from the industry, etc), please post it or
netmail it to me.

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Know what I mean?? Wink, wink, nudge, nudge


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From: SCOTT STADLER                          Number: 21
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  9:55a
Subj: 16 bit stereo cd rom                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a 16 bit cd rom playre with 350 msec access and a
sound card that will support soundblaster/adlib board.  I found a
bundled package at my local Best Buy in Iowa city selling a bundled
gravis/logitech 16 bit sound card and an internal cd rom player for $399 with
only a demo cd disk and no speakers included.  Is this a
good deal, is the gravis sound board any good?
Also this store had the creative labs soundblaster 16 bundled with a
375msec drive, speakers and 5 cd titles for $589.00  Is this a good system?
I have a 486-33 local bus machine with 8MB ram  and lots of Drive
bays so let me know whats out there I am ready to buy.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 22
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 05/29/93  7:17a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi drive audio                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > find any memory allocated to it while it's playing.  Was wondering
 > if anyone else is doing this and if you've discovered any problems
 > in doing this.  BTW it does require unplugging the speakers from
 > the Soundblaster and plugging into the drive, but if this is really
 > problem free I may buy a second set of speakers.

The simple audio players merely send a "play" command to the CD drive and
then terminate themselves. Hence, you don't see any memory usage. The CD
will
play to the end and stop. More sophisticated interfaces let you choose what
tracks to play, etc. (like LLTSR from Sony) and will hold a small amount of
memory while they're active. Likely, if you'd route the CD's audio outputs
to
your sound board's inputs, you wouldn't have to disconnect the speakers to
take advantage of this capability.
... What do you mean? You actually read this Tagline?!?
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From: GABE HOWARD                            Number: 23
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93 12:02p
Subj: CDROM Retailer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Like many people here, I am also a CDROM retailer.

If you would like a catalog of over 400 CDROM titles, including games,
shareware discs, educational items, Art/Desktop publishers, Business,
Military, Health, and Research/Literature.

PLUS MUCH MORE!

Items added dialy/weekly via out support BBS (614-436-0180) and the
catalog is updated and put out monthly.

Must call each month (or leave message via here, or my BBS) to recieve a
catalog.

I can FAX the lists, however I am asking that you be serious in buying
before you ask me to do this, ESPECIALLY Long Distance.

Numbers:

614-436-9223
FAX-436-8326
BBS-436-0180

Cornerstone Computer Solutions, INC - Your link to not filing
bankruptcy.

Gabe Howard


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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 24
  To: ADAM GILBERT                             Date: 05/28/93  2:10a
Subj: TRADE WANTED                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AG> I will trade a 42mb IDE Kyocera hard drive for an internal or

Would you consider selling the drive, and at what price?

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From: CARL GRAHAM                            Number: 25
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 05/29/93  5:13p
Subj: prophone                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Mark...if you still have the prophone cd's I would like to get them.
Call me collect or thru echo...904-733-4403


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 26
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93  8:52a
Subj: BBS CD-ROM Disc, for Remo               Refer: 3426
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> I have a used CD-Rom called Sysop in a Box that is loaded with variou

Hey Jim...

Please *don't* respond to "send me a catalog" messages - just send um a
catalog and be done with it.  Telling your customers that it's on the
way accomplishes nothing, as the catalog should arrive b4 your message.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 27
  To: MIKE SHERWOOD                            Date: 05/30/93  8:01a
Subj: OS/2                                    Refer: 3430
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> I tried to fire up your machine at work to check out OS/2, but it wou

Mike, please don't use this echo for personal correspondence... Messages
should relate to the sale of CD ROM products and should benefit
everyone.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 28
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 05/30/93  8:53a
Subj: CDrom Statistics                        Refer: 3460
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Someone here was collecting statistics on the CDrom industry to
-> influence potential investors. If you have any projections from an
-> industry recognized source (sales of drives for next year, growth in
-> titles projected, revenue from the industry, etc), please post it or
-> netmail it to me.

There's a new CD ROM magazine that covers info like this - info that
goes beyond the concerns of the end user... It's called CD-ROM Today and
is published by GP Publications...

This magazine is a step above the others I've seen... The articles look
like research papers and contain valuable info for money hunting folks
like us.  Here's their info:

GP Publications
300-A S. Westgate Dr.
Greensboro, NC 27407
[phone]

tim

p.s. I spoke to these people at COMDEX and they warmed to the idea of
somehow integrating the info that flows through this echo into their
magazine.. We'll see & we're working on it.  Again the magazine is
called "CD-ROM Today".
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 29
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/93  9:00a
Subj: Heavy Hitters                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Here are the CD ROM people who exibited at COMDEX Atlanta..

CD-ROM Today Magazine            Max Media Distributing
ACS Computer Pte. Ltd.           Adobe Systems, Inc.
Advantage Plus Dist., Inc.       American Business Info., Inc
ATI Technologies Inc.            Aztech Labs, Inc.
Creative Labs, Inc.              Delorme Mapping
Folio Corp.                      Horizons Technologies, Inc.
Killer Tracks                    McMillan New Media
Morton Management, Inc.          Multimedia World Int. Data
Multiwave Innovation Pte.Ltd     NSM Information Systems
Personal Library Software        Rainbow Technologies, Inc.
Software Sorcery                 Trace
Wizardware Ltd.                  Asia Source, Inc.
AT&T Software Replication        Blueline/Donnay
Bureau Development, Inc.         CBIS, Inc.
The CD-ROM Source                CD Technology MediAlive
Chinon America, Inc.             Control Concepts, Inc.
Datapro Info. Services Group     Discis Knowledge Research
Disc Manufacturing, Inc.         Fidelity Int'l Technologies
FirstLight, Inc.                 GP Publications, Inc.
Hitachi Home Electronics         IBM Corp.
KAO Infosystems Co.              KBTek America Inc.
Media Vision, Inc.               Micro House International
Micro Solution Comp Products     Pacific HiTech, Inc.
PC CompoNet, Inc.                PC Wholesale
Pro CD                           Rimage Corp.
Sunset Systems                   ThinKware
Toptek Technology Inc.           TradeShows Inc.
Vision Imaging                   Walnut Creek CDROM
Ziff-Davis Publishing Co.        The Blue Ribbon SoundWorks
Diamond Computer Systems Inc     Turtle Beach Systems
Koss Corp.                       Mediatrix Peripherals Inc.
American Megatrends              Chinon America, Inc.
ANTEC Incorporated               Toshiba America Info Systems
Diamond Computer Systems, Inc.   Voyetra Technologies
Rom Tech                         Newark Electronics
MGB Marketing                    MDS Distributors
Dr. T's                          Compton's New Media

tim
moderator
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 30
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/27/93 10:05p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Drive, Danvers, MA 01923-3453
>Phone: [phone] - MASTERCARD & VISA ACCEPTED!!!!
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>CD's
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>CD-ROM caddies                                             $5
>American Business Phone Book                              $23
>Anim. Fant. 1 or 2                                        $30
>The Animals                                               $28
>Battle Chess                                              $22
>Bible library                                             $26
>Bibles & Religion                                         $13
>Britannica Select                                         $39
>Busty Babes                                               $30
>Carmen San Diego                                          $27
>CD Game Pack II                                           $26
>Chessmaster 3000                                          $27
>Clipart Goliath                                           $13
>Colossal Cookbook                                         $13
>Complete Bookshop                                         $13
>Compton Interactive Encyclopedia                         $103
>Dictionaries & Languages                                  $13
>Ecstasy                                                   $30
>Erotic Encounters                                         $30
>Gigabyte Gold                                             $31
>Groliers STW Encyclopedia (windows, or 5.0 M/M)           $53
>Hot Pix (2, 3, or 4)                                      $36
>Hot Stuff 1                                               $18
>Hot Stuff 2                                               $25
>Inspector Gadget                                          $45
>KGB-CIA Factbook                                          $31
>King's Quest 5                                            $23
>Kodak Photo CD                                            $33
>Loom                                                      $30
>Lovely Ladies II                                          $31
>Mayo Clinic                                               $97
>Microsoft Works                                           $99
>Microsoft Bookshelf                                       $65
>Mixed Up Mother Goose                                     $23
>Moving Fantasies                                          $31
>MPC Wizard                                                $14
>National Geographic Mammals                               $26
>National Parks                                            $31
>Night Owl (7 or 8)                                        $26
>OS/2 Hobbes                                               $16
>Our Solar System                                          $13
>PC Sig 11                                                 $26
>PC Sig Games                                              $16
>PC Pix (1, 2, or 3)                                       $31
>Physical Therapy                                          $16
>Pro Phone 1992                                            $33
>Pro Phone 1993                                           $107
>Publishit 2.0 (DOS)                                       $28
>Rimfire Pacific                                           $34
>Seventh Heaven                                            $31
>Seventh Guest                                             $67
>Sherlock Cons 1                                           $28
>Smutware                                                  $26
>So Much Stareware                                         $27
>Soundworks                                                $19
>Storm (I, II, or III)                                     $31
>Street Atlas USA                                          $97
>Shareware Extravaganza                                    $39
>Shareware Studio                                          $28
>Technotools                                               $13
>Too Many Typefonts                                        $13
>US Atlas w/ Automap                                       $26
>VGA Spectrum 1                                            $13
>Willy Beamish                                             $54
>Willy Beamish (OEM)                                       $22
>Windows 1993                                              $22
>Wing Commander 2/Ult. Underground                         $60
>Wing Commander 2/OPS                                      $60
>Women In Motion                                           $31
>x11R5/GNU                                                 $22
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>Prices/specifications subject to change without notice.
>Cash discount 2.5%, COD-$5 extra, requires $15 deposit.

===
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 31
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/27/93 10:05p
Subj: Cd-rom drives/bundles [a]               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Drive, Danvers, MA 01923-3453
>Phone: [phone] - MASTERCARD & VISA ACCEPTED!!!!
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>CD-Rom drives                                           Price
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>>Texel 265ms SCSI internal                               $374
>   - 265ms access time
>   - 300 KB/sec data transfer rate
>   - 64 KB data buffer
>>Texel 265ms SCSI external                               $457
>>Texel internal bundle                                   $605
>   - DM-3024 internal drive
>   - SCSI interface adapter
>   - CD disc holder caddy
>   - internal SCSI cable
>   - device driver and MCSDEX CD-ROM extensions
>   - Sennheiser HD-10 stereo headphones
>   - Labtec CS-180 amplified digital stereo speakers
>   - Labtec AM-10 compact disc cleaner
>   - Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia V 5.0
>   - The San Diego Zoo's: The Animals!
>   - National parks - The Multimedia Family Guide
>   - PC-Sig Library 11th edition
>   - Nautilus multimedia Magazine, an introduction
>   - Software Toolworks game pack II
>   - music sampler CD
>   - music audio control software
>   - MPC Wizard Test and Tune-Up CD
>   - manual and warranty card
>>Texel external bundle                                   $697
>   - DM-5024 external drive
>   - SCSI interface adapter
>   - CD disc holder caddy
>   - external SCSI cable
>   - device driver and MCSDEX CD-ROM extensions
>   - Sennheiser HD-10 stereo headphones
>   - Labtec CS-180 amplified digital stereo speakers
>   - Labtec AM-10 compact disc cleaner
>   - Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia V 5.0
>   - The San Diego Zoo's: The Animals!
>   - National parks - The Multimedia Family Guide
>   - PC-Sig Library 11th edition
>   - Nautilus multimedia Magazine, an introduction
>   - Software Toolworks game pack II
>   - music sampler CD
>   - music audio control software
>   - MPC Wizard Test and Tune-Up CD
>   - manual and warranty card
>>Texel internal Multimedia bundle                        $923
>   - DM-3024 internal drive
>   - 2 CD disc holder caddies
>   - internal SCSI cable
>   - device driver and MCSDEX CD-ROM extensions
>   - Sennheiser HD-55 stereo headphones
>   - media vision Spectrum 16 16-bit stereo soundboard
>     w/ AC-MVPA cable
>   - Labtec CS-550 amplified digital stereo speakers
>   - Labtec AD-4 AC adapter for stereo speakers
>   - Labtec AM-22 deluxe microphone
>   - Labtec AM-10 compact disc cleaner
>   - compton's multimedia encyclopedia
>   - Autodesk Multimedia Explorer
>   - Sierra's King's Quest V
>   - the San Diego Zoo's: The Animals!
>   - Broderbund Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?
>     Deluxe
>   - National Parks - the multimedia Family guide
>   - PC-Sig library 11th edition
>   - Nautilus multimedia Magazine - intro
>   - Software Toolworks game pack II
>   - Music Sampler CD
>   - Music audio control software
>   - MPC Wizard Test and Tune-Up
>   - World view Media Clips
>   - manual and warranty card
>>Texel external Multimedia bundle                      $1,036
>   - DM-5024 external drive
>   - 2 CD disc holder caddies
>   - external SCSI cable
>   - device driver and MCSDEX CD-ROM extensions
>   - Sennheiser HD-55 stereo headphones
>   - media vision Spectrum 16 16-bit stereo soundboard
>   - Labtec CS-550 amplified digital stereo speakers
>   - Labtec AD-4 AC adapter for stereo speakers
>   - Labtec AM-22 deluxe microphone
>   - Labtec AM-10 compact disc cleaner
>   - compton's multimedia encyclopedia
>   - Autodesk Multimedia Explorer

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From: BRANDON QUINN                          Number: 32
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 05/28/93  7:18p
Subj: Texel DM-3024                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm within a week or two on deciding what drive to buy and where.  I
have the PAS-16 sound card and was wondering if your bare Texel DM-3024
drive includes, not only the drive, mounting rails, SCSI (50 pin) cable
and caddy, but also the 5 pin audio cable?

If not, how much is the audio cable?

Is the Texel DM-3024 the best multi-spin, SCSI drive for the money on
the market right now?

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From: ED BAILEY                              Number: 33
  To: CLIFF ESHOM                              Date: 05/28/93 12:59p
Subj: Mitsumi's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EB>works. Please be specific.

 CE>  That's good news for those of us who have just bought one :)
 CE>  So far I have 1 lonely audio CD (it works great - with DOS 6),
 CE>  would *you* mind being specific about your CD's and offer any
 CE>  recommendations? (p.s. any to sell?) Thnx.
I was requesting that the original author specify CD's that did not work on
the Drive. I do have 1 CD available for sale - Total Baseball, I ended up
with 2 copies- this isn't even opened, stats to the end of 1991. I'd sell it
for $25.
I wouldn't want to recommend CD's to anyone, people's tastes vary alot. I run
a BBS and I have about 6 disks on shareware, I got 10 CD's when I bought my
original Drive, and they include Publish It 2.0, Wing Commander/Ultima, Loom
(I really liked this game, I'd recommend it), Great Cities of the World Vol
2. Family Doctor - to name a few.
Ed
P.S I ended up buying a CD player for Audios after my wife heard me playing
on the computer.

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 34
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 05/28/93  7:55p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Since you're a dealer of Mitsumis and had a chance to test out certain
> disks, would you list the titles that have problems with the Mitsumi so
> us purchasers can keep away from them. Much Thank.
Joe, we sold the mentioned drive in thousands. I have not seen a single disk
with a problem, unless the disk was pressed incorrectly. TTYL

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From: DAVE HITT                              Number: 35
  To: DON NELSON                               Date: 05/29/93  1:24p
Subj: Some Disk Recommendations               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Don, you might want to check out the Monster Disk.  A two disk compaiation of
just about everything - games, utitlties, fonts, gifs (no adult ones,
though), windows stuff...All packed with a spiral bound book that contains a
complete listing of what's on the two disks.  My only complaint is that too
much of disk one is devoted to software and utitlties for various BBSs.  I
picked mine up at a local compter fair for about $55.

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From: DAVE HITT                              Number: 36
  To: IAN LEVSTEIN                             Date: 05/29/93  1:32p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm intrested in any and all CD catalougs anyone has available.  I'll be
opening a new BBS in a couple of weeks, and while I only have one CD player
right now, I'm hoping to add a six disk changer in the near future.  I'm
intrested in just about anything, including adult stuff.  Send you cataloge
to:

Dave Hitt
Electric Avenue
P.O. Box 607
Round Lake, NY, 12151

Thanks in advance.

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From: JIM DELESKIE                           Number: 37
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 05/29/93 12:48p
Subj: NEW CATALOG IS DONE!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'd like to request a catalog

Jim DeLeskie
85 Westgrove Place - 21
Halifax,N.S
B3M 3L7

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From: GARY MEYER                             Number: 38
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 05/29/93 12:15a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Disks                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for the Info on Adult CD-ROMS.....Looking for something like BUSTY
BABES which I have now....Basic the same type but with different selections
of GIF's I use them on my BBS....ProBoard.....and will have to have them so
that
they are FILES.BBS...in each of the CD-ROM Dir.....I Run an adult BBS with
some 6,000 GIF's + and have some 17,000 on-line files.....will give you a
call thanks......much!

=== Zyllex Quoter v2.1 [Unregistered version] ===
Rainy days and automatic weapons always get me down.

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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 39
  To: JIM MCLEA                                Date: 05/30/93 12:32p
Subj: Used Shareware CD's???                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Jim,
 I don't sell used CD's but you will find many new titles at used
prices. I will get you a price list in the mail but if you downloaded
CDWORLD.zip you have the latest price list already...

 Have a good one
 Dave


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 40
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 05/29/93  2:30a
Subj: CATALOG                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


IA> We also have a generic account on our BBS
 IA>
 IA> First name: CD
 IA> Last Name: ROM
 IA> Password: CATALOG

 Hey that is a great idea.  So good in fact I want to steal it!

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 41
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 05/29/93  2:52a
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 I am getting a few more used internal Hitachi 3500's.  I will  be
  offering them for $130 each. Controller cards are $60  that  will
  run up to 4 of these drives.  4 of these drives are available for
  $600 with controller card, case and cables  to  connect  to  your
  internal power supply and the internal  part  of  the  controller
  card  ** shipping and c.o.d. charges via U.S. mail  are  included
  with this deal **.      I also have power supplies  and  external
  cables available.  Call 205-824-2552

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From: RICHARD VONZEL                         Number: 42
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 05/29/93  5:37p
Subj: cd-rom drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Are you selling drives also?? I'm looking for a Internal Mitsumi.

Richard.
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 43
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  6:42p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

June Special:  Reduced prices on these CD-ROMs!

Shareware Studio Volume I        $20.00 U.S. $25.00 Cdn
SoundWAV Volume I                $20.00 U.S. $25.00 Cdn
Simtel 20 MSDOS Utils (1/93)     $12.00 U.S. $15.00 Cdn

All applicable taxes included. Please add $4 U.S. $5 Cdn S/H
VISA/Mastercard/Cheque/M.O. Accepted.
Contact:  Michellea Sorensen  at  306-789-4654
          6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. (Canada), S4N 4G7
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 44
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  6:42p
Subj: SHAREWARE STUDIO VOL 1                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Shareware Studio Volume I        $20.00 U.S. $25.00 Cdn

   Great variety of games and utilities for DOS, Windows,
   programmers, more!  FILES.BBS support for almost *ALL*
   BBS types.  Virus/Hack-free files in .ZIP format.

All applicable taxes included. Please add $4 U.S. $5 Cdn S/H
VISA/Mastercard/Cheque/M.O. Accepted.
Contact:  Michellea Sorensen  at  306-789-4654
          6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. (Canada), S4N 4G7
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 45
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  6:43p
Subj: SHAREWARE STUDIO VOL. 2                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Shareware Studio Volume II       $28.00 U.S. $35.00 Cdn
              ** Just pressed this month! **
   Great variety of games and utilities for DOS, Windows,
   programmers, more!  FILES.BBS support for almost *ALL*
   BBS types.  Virus/Hack-free files in .ZIP format.

All applicable taxes included. Please add $4 U.S. $5 Cdn S/H
VISA/Mastercard/Cheque/M.O. Accepted.
Contact:  Michellea Sorensen  at  306-789-4654
          6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. (Canada), S4N 4G7
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 46
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  6:43p
Subj: MULTIMEDIA/SOUND CD-ROMS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SoundWAV Volume I                $20.00 U.S. $25.00 Cdn
                ** Just pressed in April! **
   640 megs of ORIGINAL digital samples in 3 WAV formats!
   Great for multi-media applications, musicians, and home
   entertainment!

All applicable taxes included. Please add $4 U.S. $5 Cdn S/H
VISA/Mastercard/Cheque/M.O. Accepted.
Contact:  Michellea Sorensen  at  306-789-4654
          6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. (Canada), S4N 4G7
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From: DENNY VANDEMAELE                       Number: 47
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 05/21/93  6:18a
Subj: MSCDEX PROBLEM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Then I upgraded to a AMI (motherboard) 486DX2-66 Just normal DOS v6
> using MSCDEX v2.20 (in dos v6 package) and get "Incorrect DOS version).

Hello, My dos v6 came with v2.23 and it works fine without setver.

Den

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From: DENNY VANDEMAELE                       Number: 48
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 05/24/93  5:53p
Subj: Re: CDROM DISTRIBUTORS WA               Refer: NONE
Read: 06/02/93  7:52a                       Private: No

Hello Tim,
    What CD's have you put out?  Which one are you working on now?
Thanks
Den

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From: DENNY VANDEMAELE                       Number: 49
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/24/93  5:55p
Subj: CD Speedway                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Is anybody selling CD Speedway disk caching software?

Does it work?  Have you tried it??
Thanks
Den

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From: DENNY VANDEMAELE                       Number: 50
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/25/93  6:14p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Jim,
I'm interested in all Non-Adult Cd-Roms.

Denny VandeMaele
3731 Greenleaf Circle #112
Kalamazoo,  MI  49008

Thanks
Den

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 51
  To: GARY ARCHER                              Date: 05/29/93  5:21a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Fesses Up to Pro            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 26 May 93  19:45:00, I heard Gary Archer shout to All:

GA> Warning to all of you who just bought a Mitsumi LU005S hoping to use it
und
GA> OS/2 or
GA> with a Multi-session Photo CD.  This also covers the problem that some
peop
GA> have in
GA> reading a very full CD-ROM.  This was taken from the Usenet conference
GA> comp.os.os2.misc
GA> where effort is ongoing trying to figure out why LU005s mfgd after Feb 93
a
GA> failing:

Gary,

  Well this is interesting, Could you give me the number that you called for
Mitsumi ??  The number that is in my manual, Is NOT there number...
                        Thanks !

                             ......|<evin

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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 52
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 05/30/93  9:09a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Fesses Up to Pro            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I just got these numbers,
  being weekend-holidays, I have not tried it yet.

       408-970-0700
       708-593-7600
      213-727-5096
       516-752-7730
       214-550-7300,  Use the number convenient for you.


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From: KELLY LESSARD                          Number: 53
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/28/93 11:54p
Subj: RE: FREE CD-ROM CATALOGS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Jim...

Interested in recieving one of those CD-ROM catalogs...

My Address is:

Kelly Lessard
45 Crawford Street
Red Deer, Alberta, CANADA
T4P 2G4

Many thanks...

Kelly


KELLY LESSARD

... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: KENT DYER                              Number: 54
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/29/93 11:12p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there!

I'd like to be on your mailing list for the catalog.

Kent Dyer
POB 8602
Corpus Christi, Tx  78469-8602

Please include ALL types of titles, including adult.
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From: REN JUST                               Number: 55
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/28/93  6:38a
Subj: LINUX CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


LINUX AND INTERNET FILES ON CD-ROM

LINUX, a UNIX operating system workalike now available
on CD-ROM.  Includes GNU C/C++ compiler, X-Windows,
TCP/IP, sound card support and much more.  Only $49.95.

Also CD-ROMs available with source code and applications
from internet servers for DOS, UNIX, Amiga, C and Mac.
Call or write for listing.

To receive your LINUX CD-ROM call and order with your
charge card

or send $49.95 + $3.00 S/H (CA residents add 7.25% tax) to:

Just Computers!
PO Box 751414
Petaluma  CA 94975-1414

707-769-1648

Visa and MasterCard gladly accepted.


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From: BILL ROPER                             Number: 56
  To: DAVID BAKKER                             Date: 05/29/93  7:47p
Subj: Re: Hitachi 1503S for SAL               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> If you still have that drive and it'll work with my GVp imapct series
-> controlles let me know. Also do you have the driver


I have absolutely no idea if it will or not....   and yes, I do
have the driver.

Bill..


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From: CRAIG MOSER                            Number: 57
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  5:01p
Subj: Mac CD-ROMS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MACINTOSH CD-ROM
----------------
Aesopolis(tm)
Kids love Uncle Bits, your host and guide through Aesopolis, the
magic land of Aesop's Fables. This enchanting multi-media CD-ROM
presents the timeless wisdom of the ages with splendid color
imagery and high-fidelity sound.Uncle Bits provides an introduction
to each story and engages the user in a thought-provoking
interactive dialog designed to reinforce the Aesopic message.
Children love his crazy antics as well as the colorful costumes &
disguises he dreas upon from his prop chest. Aesopolis represents
the cutting edge in interactive edutainment. Aesopolis is tons of
fun. Designed for students ages 3 to 83. Rated 4 1/2 mice, MacUser
magazine, December 1992. Requires color Macintosh with 2.5 megs
available RAM, CD-ROM drive.  List Price: $99.

SPECIAL PRICE:  $75


Giga-ROM(tm) v4.0
This is the world's LARGEST Macintosh software collection - this
disc contains an amazing 1700 megabytes of compressed, archived
Macintosh shareware and public domain software goodies! The Giga-ROM
is the ideal solution for a Super-Mac BBS, or for users who need
the most extensive library of Macintosh programs in pre-compressed
format. The Giga-ROM is updated regularly to include the latest &
greatest new software. Version 4.0 offers a cleaner, more intuitive
structure and is jam pakced with the greatest applications, cdevs,
extensions, utilities, snds, MIDI, communications, DAs, demos, fonts,
educational, Hypercard, QuickTime MooVs and MUCH MORE!
New on Version 4.0 is a directory of essential BBS software &
utilities for such popular Mac BBS host programs as: Second Sight,
TeleFinder, FirstClass, NovaLink Pro, Hermes, MUBBS...plus the
greatest Tabby/Fidonet essentials. Most files on the disc have the
popular "SitC" comment resource added to their archives.
Truly an amazing CD-ROM!  List Price: $199

SPECIAL PRICE:  $119

If you are interested in purchasing either of these great CD-ROMS,
Contact South Beach BBS [phone] and leave me a message with
your name and voice telephone number. A representative will contact
you. Credit card orders accepted.All CD-ROMS are guaranteed against
manufacturing defects for 1 year.

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From: TOM CASHMORE                           Number: 58
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/29/93  5:50a
Subj: Mailing List ....                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Please include me in your mailing list. Also interested in Adult titles
(Who isnt<g>..). Send to :

 Tom Cashmore
 PO Box 2873
 Springfield Mo 65802-2873
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: JASON SAUVE                            Number: 59
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  8:54p
Subj: European Racer (CD-ROM)                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anybody have any comments on the game European Racer (which I just
believe came out a short while ago for CD-ROM only by Revell)?!? Because I'm
thinking of buying it but would like a few opinions as to whether it is a
good multi-media game like the 7th Guest is! Thanks, all information
appreciated.

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From: ANDREW MCGREGOR                        Number: 60
  To: GEORGE INACIO                            Date: 05/26/93  9:54p
Subj: COMMENT (1)                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hi there
i would just like to know how to download bulletin messages???
your faithfully
A.McGregor
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From: MALCOLM KLEU                           Number: 61
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 05/26/93  5:50a
Subj: CATALOGUE                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Mike,

Do you stock Mitsumi drives, and if so, at what price (plus shipping)?
Also, I would like to receive a copy of your latest catalogue
My address follows:-
P.O.Box 35611,
Northcliff - 2115
Rep. of S. Africa

Regards, Malcolm

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From: RICHARD KRUGER                         Number: 62
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 05/27/93  8:03a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Mike,
Please include me in your mailing list for the CD catalog...
Rand Datasystems Technology CC
P.O Box 6468
Greenhills
South-Africa
1767
Hope to hear from you soon..
Keep well
Richard

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From: RICHARD KRUGER                         Number: 63
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/27/93  8:47a
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Jim,
 > I am now sending out our new CD-Rom catalog from Computer
 > Works.  Anyone
 > wishing to be added to our mailing list, please leave me a
 > message with
 > your address.  Specify if you are interested in adult
 > titles.  Thanks!
Well yes please, add me to your mailing list. Send me info on all CD's
available. Adult included.
Thanks and keep well
Richard

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 64
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 05/29/93 10:39p
Subj: CD-ROM drives for $90                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 IA> Mitsumi LU002S / Tandy 1000  CD-ROM Player $90

If I am in time, send one my way.  Please ship COD to the following address.

Michael Benge
4540 washington rd
college park ga 30349

Voice verification at 1-404-763-0000
BBS, Evening Netmail  1-404-559-8283

I will try to contact you voice also, but please pack one up for me, and ship
it as soon as you receive this message.  Thanx

 * MKRead v1.01 * Jesus saves sinners... and redeems them for cash & Prizes


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From: BEN NATION                             Number: 65
  To: GARY ARCHER                              Date: 05/30/93 11:18a
Subj: mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey Gary, I read the note you sent across the line about the LU004 drive.
Well I would like to know if you could supply me with the name and number at
MItsumi, of who you spoke with. As I have three drives, 2 of which are the B
series, but the last is a C series (C5511666) manufactered in APRIL 93. Since
Its not a D series but manufactured after MARCH 93, I don't know if its one
of the 004 drives or not. I want to talk to someone before I call the seller
and find out if mine is or is not a 004 drive.
                                        Thanks in Advance, Ben.

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From: MARTY PURSELLEY                        Number: 66
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 05/30/93 10:42a
Subj: Dv & qemm                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you are still interested in the trade for your copy of Mammals (MPC
version), my copy of Desqview is current and QEMM is version 6.0. I have the
documents for QEMM and it is unregistered; the desqview has been registered.
Let me know - l8er


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From: JIM REED                               Number: 67
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/93  8:59a
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi All;
     I just discovered a really great feature of this drive.  I'm going
     to have to read the manual more often.  I just stick  my
     favorite audio disk in the drive and run CDPLAY which came on the
     installation disk and I've got music.  I even put it in my startup
     file.  I can then go about any other task on the machine with music
     in the background.  I have not noticed any conflict with other
     programs yet, it must not even be using the CPU because I can't
     find any memory allocated to it while it's playing.  Was wondering
     if anyone else is doing this and if you've discovered any problems
     in doing this.  BTW it does require unplugging the speakers from
     the Soundblaster and plugging into the drive, but if this is really
     problem free I may buy a second set of speakers.
                                /JIM/
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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 68
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93  2:44p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jim,
Please add my to your list.
Thanks!

Michael Sells
309 East Saint Mary Drive
Covington, LA 70433


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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 69
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 05/30/93  6:23a
Subj: Cdrom retailer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I would like a catalog!
Jeff Jenkins
1435 N. Tamarisk
Chandler, Az. 85224
thanks..


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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 70
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93  6:33a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

How much is Digital Dreams?
also,  can you send me another catalog, or at least the adult titles.
I did not get the adult titles when you sent the last catalog.
thanks
Jeff Jenkins
1435 N. Tamarisk
Chandler, Az. 85224


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From: MIKE MAST                              Number: 71
  To: ALFRED FRANKLIN                          Date: 05/30/93  3:05a
Subj: Need A Cd Scsi Controller               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Hey I really need a SCSI Card for my CD-ROM...Let me know if
 > you still have the Controller..I would like to buy one or
 > two!

Yes, I still have some.  If you're just going to run the CD's off of them,
the T100 is the way to go (cheaper).  If you'd envision running other SCSI
devices on the card (these are 8 bit), then a T128 might be the way to go.
Personally, I run my HDrives on a 16 bit controller and the CDs on the 8 bit
controllers.  I have 2 T100 controllers left.  I'm asking $25 a piece or $45
for both of them. Each includes the disk and docs that came with my CDrom
drive purchase.  These are "left over" because I'm daisy chaining the CDs
off of one controller and each CD drive came with a  controller (that I
don't need).

Regards,
Mike
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 72
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 05/30/93  9:42a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TW> Smutware
 TW> My private collection,volume 2
 TW> Adult reference library


I have Storm I & II, Private Pictures, and Erotic Encounters to trade.
If you're interested in any of these, call me at 713-488-0065. Ciao!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 73
  To: ROGER COLLINS                            Date: 05/30/93  9:45a
Subj: Adult ROMs Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DA> Seeing as how a used CD is indistinguishable from a new CD (assu


I agree with Doug Adams - undamaged "used" CDs are as perfect as new
ones. I have Storm I & II, Private Pictures, and Erotic Encounters for
sale (also trade) at $20 each plus $5/ORDER for shipping. Call me at
713-488-0065 if you're interested. All items subject to prior sale - I'm
not a dealer - these are "one each".
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 74
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 05/29/93 10:38p
Subj: ASIAN LADIES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Terry!

Saturday May 29 1993, Terry Woodward writes to Jere Wessell:

 JW>> ASIAN LADIES IS PRODUCED BY SEXY CD SOFTWARE, INC
 JW>> MIAMI, FL CAN ANYONE GIVE ME A FULL ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER.
 JW>> I NEED TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT USING MY COPYRIGHTED GIFS ON THEIR CD ROM.
 JW>> JERE WESSELL
 JW>> NIGHTHAWK BBS [phone]
 JW>> LAS VEGAS, NV

 TW> If you find out, will you let me know? I'd like to talk to them myself.

 TW> Terry Woodward
 TW> The Library BBS
 TW> 305-581-4983

Call Ismail Arslangiray of GroupWare... he's in pretty tight with the
publisher of Asian Ladies.  He knows EXACTLY who they are and where they're
at.  Ismail's number is [phone] or [phone].

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 75
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/28/93 10:09p
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 ****      CD-ROM International * [phone] (Order Line)          ****
 ****                   [phone] (Voice)                         ****
 ****                   [phone] (BBS/Fax)                       ****
 **************************************************************************


 Bibles & Religion ........... 12.00  Source CD-ROM ............... 17.00
 CD PowerBox ................. 22.00  Super Games for Windows .....  5.00
 Guinness Disc of Records .... 30.00  Too Many Typefonts .......... 12.00
 Night Owl's 7.0 ............. 19.00  USA Wars: American Civil War  29.00
 Night Owl's 8.0 ............. 29.00  USA Wars: Desert Storm ...... 29.00
 Publish-It! v2.0 ............ 29.00  USA Wars: Korea ............. 29.00
 Q&A v4.0 on CD-ROM .......... 59.00  USA Wars: Vietnam ........... 29.00
 Reference Library ........... 24.00  USA Wars: World War II ...... 29.00
 Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det ... 39.00  Super_CD II ................. 19.00
 Programmer's Mega Pack ...... 34.00

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From: JERRY FREEMAN                          Number: 76
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 05/29/93  4:36a
Subj: Re: adult CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO#Dean, we carry on of the largest selection of adult titles around.

BO#Boris Osadciw

BO#... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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  # * TNet 3.50 = This Old house * 206-475-2108 (Tacoma)

Can I get a catalog from you?  Thanks

Jerry Freeman
3003 Elizabeth St.
Bellingham, Wa  98225

 * QMPro 1.02 67-5676 * Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.
 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: JERRY FREEMAN                          Number: 77
  To: THE SISTER                               Date: 05/29/93  4:40a
Subj: Re: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TS# -=> Quoting Jim Lambert to All <=-

TS# JL> I am now sending out our new CD-Rom catalog from Computer Works.
  # JL> Anyone  wishing to be added to our mailing list, please leave me a
  # JL> message with  your address.  Specify if you are interested in adult
  # JL> titles.  Thanks!
  # JL> Jim...
  # JL> Computer Works
  # JL> CD-Rom Sales!
  # JL> [phone] Voice
  # JL> [phone] BBS
  # JL>

Catalog, please. Adult titles too.
Jerry Freeman
3003 Elizabeth St.
Bellingham, WA 98225

 * QMPro 1.02 67-5676 * Nothing worse than being peerless in a peer review
syst
 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: MIKE SMITH                             Number: 78
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93  5:10p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Jim could you include me on the list, adult and all
 Mike Smith
Box19a Warners Lake Rd.
East Berne Ny  12059

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From: GREGORY WYNOT                          Number: 79
  To: RUSS MICHAELSON                          Date: 05/28/93 10:36p
Subj: CD'S 4-SALE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > GW>               The Phoenix 3.0
 > GW>               So Much Shareware 2
 >         Greg - I'll offer $10 each plus shipping for the
 > above.
 >                 Let me know.

I don't have Night Owl 6.1 anymore.  I would do $25 for those other two
however, and if you wanted Night Owl 7.0 I would sell all of them for $35.
Let me know!


               Greg

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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 80
  To: BRANDON QUINN                            Date: 05/31/93  9:42a
Subj: Texel DM-3024                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to Boris Osadciw, Brandon Quinn said:
 BQ> I'm within a week or two on deciding what drive to buy and
 BQ> where.  I
 BQ> have the PAS-16 sound card and was wondering if your bare
 BQ> Texel DM-3024
 BQ> drive includes, not only the drive, mounting rails, SCSI
 BQ> (50 pin) cable
 BQ> and caddy, but also the 5 pin audio cable?

 BQ> If not, how much is the audio cable?

 BQ> Is the Texel DM-3024 the best multi-spin, SCSI drive for
 BQ> the money on
 BQ> the market right now?

 BQ>  * SLMR 2.0 * The secret to life lies at 19.5 degrees


 BQ> --- WM v2.08/91-0097
 BQ>  * Origin: Texas Open Forum!  903-534-1918 100,000+ Files
 BQ> (1:3801/100)
 BQ> 6000
.
.
 My friend is selling his NEC 84-1 for $460.He has only had it for a few
months.These drives are $599 most places.If interested call Binary Works at
615-890-3862.
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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 81
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93 10:00a
Subj: Sony CD-ROM drive                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 I'm selling a Sony CD-ROM with 380ms and 150k/sec transfer.This includes all
needed cables.I'll throw in LOOM too.I want $185(this includes Loom).
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From: ROGER COLLINS                          Number: 82
  To: DOUG ADAMS                               Date: 05/30/93  5:07p
Subj: Adult ROMs Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Seeing as how a used CD is indistinguishable from a new CD (assuming
-> unscratched, as mine are), I don't agree.  But, it is your choice.  I
-> keep you in mind.

Try telling that to the audio shops that sell used CDs...sure makes
collecting a little cheaper!

-> BTW, you offered $20 post-paid, not $20 plus shipping.

I know, I upped by offer by the shipping.


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From: JOHN DECARLO                           Number: 83
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 05/30/93  6:47p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On <May 29 08:47>, Terry Woodward (1:369/14) wrote:

 TW >I have the following Cd's for trade.
 TW >Smutware
 TW >My private collection,volume 2
 TW >Adult reference library
 TW >PC-Pix, volume 2

I have FAO I and am tired of it.  Interested in trading?

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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 84
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/29/93  7:11a
Subj: NEW CATALOG WANTED                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Clint Savage
2124 Gerber AVe.
Sacramento Ca
95817

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From: SCOTT ATKINS                           Number: 85
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 05/29/93  9:51a
Subj: Re: mitsumi                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Ben Nation to All <=-

 BN> Would anyone be kind enough to leave me a response on what sound
 BN> cards does mitsumi 350ms cd roms support? i.e.- soundblaster, etc...
 BN> thanks, Ben.

Ben:

The 350 Mitsumi drives can be run off the Aztec Sound Galaxy NX-Pro, or the
ATI Stereo F/X Cd sound card.  I have either one.  The Aztec is $150 and the
ATI is $160.

Scott
[phone] (PST weekends/evenings)
... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done.
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From: ADAM MORANO                            Number: 86
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93  5:47p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hello Jim, Could I get one of your catalogs?

Adam Morano
20992 Strickler Road
West Fork,Ark
72774
Thanks....
Adam

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From: ADAM MORANO                            Number: 87
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 05/30/93  5:51p
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO> Here it is !!!  A complete BBS Ready " ALL GAMES DISK"
Boris, Do you have a files list for this? If so could you Netmail it
to me? Thanks....
Adam Morano
1:391/1180

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From: THE SISTER                             Number: 88
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93  9:01p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Catalogs!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jim Lambert to The Sister <=-

 JL> I'll get you a price list out in the mail.  Maybe I can supply what
 JL> you  are looking for.  Thanks for asking!
 JL>
 JL> Jim...
 JL> Computer Works
 JL> CD-Rom Sales!
 JL> [phone] Voice
 JL> [phone] BBS
jim-
        Thanks I would apperciate that!
                        Joannine Gesualdo

... It ain't over until it's over.  Then, who knows!
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 89
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93  7:46a
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>Computer Works
JL>CD-Rom Sales!
JL>[phone] Voice
JL>[phone] BBS

Jim,     Please send me a CD-ROM catalog if available...
    Thanks,     Shane
                          Shane Snyder
                          286 Main St. Apt.3
                          Greenville PA  16125
     ps.  I am interested in all titles.

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From: BRAD MARSH                             Number: 90
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/93  8:50a
Subj: SONY CDU535 CD241-AO Ser                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Looking for new drivers of the sony CDroms

I heard that they will allow single session Photo CD Compatibility

Any info would be great

... QuickSilver has no File Ratios
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 91
  To: JOHN HUGHES                              Date: 05/30/93 12:45p
Subj: OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JH> I'm looking for the Oxford English Dictionary. Does anyone know who
 JH> has the best price? The suggested retail price for the two-disk set is
 JH> $895.

Haven't checked on a current price lately, but if the previous price I have
it still good, I can sell it to you for $869 plus shipping and handling.
Give me a call at 615-339-0235 any evening after 5 pm if interested.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 92
  To: STEPHEN RUSBOLDT                         Date: 05/30/93 12:51p
Subj: RE: PIONEER SPECIAL                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SR> What type of connector is on the Pioneer Drives?
 SR> There are a couple different type SCSI connectors.
 SR> Is it a 25 pin "D" type?  Or is it similar to the
 SR> Centronics connector?

They have the 50 pin SCSI slot that looks like the Centronics connector on
your parallel printer.  The Future Domain TMC850 cards have a 25 pin
connector.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 93
  To: MARIO BONELLI                            Date: 05/30/93 12:56p
Subj: Florida Lion's Den Inc. CD Complaint!   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MB> Complaint:

 MB> It is taking too long for you guys to come up with another CD! :^)
 MB> What are your availble titles, and are there anymore in the making?
 MB> I own Ecstasy Hot Pics, and Busty Babes!

Definitely not an INFORMED complaint!! <g>  They just released a new CD that
is supposed to be a real nice Clip Art CD called PCX Potpourri.  I am sure
they will be publishing some more soon.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 94
  To: SCOTT ELMORE                             Date: 05/30/93  1:00p
Subj: Hey                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SE>             I want a price on the MULTIMEDIA WORLD
 SE> ATLAS.. I Believe Toolworks or something makes it?
 SE> HOW MUCH?

How about $28.95 plus $4 shipping (in stock).....give me a call at
615-339-0235 after 5:30 eastern and will get ya fixed up.

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From: LAYN HUFFMAN                           Number: 95
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/29/93  9:33p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Jim!

 JL> I am now sending out our new CD-Rom catalog from Computer Works.  Anyone
 JL> wishing to be added to our mailing list, please leave me a message with
 JL> your address.  Specify if you are interested in adult titles.  Thanks!

Please include me in your CD-ROM catalog listing with adult titles.  My
address is as follows:

Layn Huffman
2468 Pate Road
Memphis, TN 38133

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From: IAN LEVSTEIN                           Number: 96
  To: DAVE HITT                                Date: 05/30/93  4:53p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DH> I'm intrested in any and all CD catalougs anyone has
 DH> available.  I'll be opening a new BBS in a couple of
 DH> weeks, and while I only have one CD player right now,
 DH> I'm hoping to add a six disk changer in the near
 DH> future.  I'm intrested in just about anything,
 DH> including adult stuff.  Send you cataloge to:

You have the wrong person Dave.  I myself was asking for a catalogue.  Better
check the echo, I think you want to reply to Jim Lambert.


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 97
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93  4:30p
Subj: Free cd-rom catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Are you selling Share Ware Studio 2?
If so, how much?
thanks!


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 98
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 05/30/93  4:44p
Subj: Cdrom retailer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Could you send me a catalog?
If so, send it to the following address:
        Paul Janel
        280 curtis road
        Hilton NY 14468
Thanks!


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 99
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 05/30/93  9:34p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Do you have a catalog you could send me? If so, please send it to:
        Paul Janel
        280 Curtis RD
        Hilton NY 14468
Thanks!


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 100
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 05/30/93  9:37p
Subj: Shareware studio vol. 2                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

There is a guy selling that same CD for ONLY $22.95... can you beat that?


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 101
  To: DENNY VANDEMAELE                         Date: 05/30/93  9:40p
Subj: Cd speedway                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have read in some CD echo that there is a BETTER cd-caching software and
its put out by Norton. If you didn't know, thats all that CD-SpeedWay is, a
chaching software. I hoped that helped you some.


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From: BILL WOLF                              Number: 102
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/31/93 12:57a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

YES JIM, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED TO YOUR MAILING LIST TO RECEIVE THE CATALOG
AND ALSO THE ADULT LISTINGS YOU HAVE.         THANKS, BILL WOLF

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From: BILL WOLF                              Number: 103
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/31/93  1:11a
Subj: CD CATALOG                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JIM, SEND THE CATALOG I REQUESTED TO THE ADDRESS BELOW.  AGAIN, THANKS

BILL WOLF
12916 JAMI DR.
KANSAS CITY, MO
64166

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From: BRIAN PUNTNEY                          Number: 104
  To: GREGORY YERXA                            Date: 05/30/93  5:16p
Subj: CDs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Gregory-

    GY>         I am interested in any cheap ($10-$20) CDs.  I just

I have So Much Shareware 2 for $15.  It has a good collection of stuff for
everyone.  Has FILES.BBS in every directory, for easy setup on a BBS.  It is
used, but in excellent condition.

Brian Puntney

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From: BILL HENDERSON                         Number: 105
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/93 10:03p
Subj: 7th Guest Trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a two week old copy of 7th Guest that I just can't get into...what do
you have to trade? Really like to find Bible Library and Bibles and Religion
CD-Roms, but will consider all. Leave me a note.
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From: SCOTT FISHER                           Number: 106
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93  1:54p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     Jim,
      I'd appreciate being added to your mailing list, and I'd be
     interested in the adult titles as well. Thanks in advance,
      Scott Fisher
      7720 Penn Ave S. #119
      Richfield, Mn 55423


 * OLX 2.1 * Death: To stop sinning suddenly.


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 107
  To: BRIAN HURLEY                             Date: 05/30/93  8:46a
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BH>Please send me a catalog too.

Sure thing, Brian.  Thanks for your interest!

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Roms Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 108
  To: BRYAN LEKAS                              Date: 05/30/93  8:48a
Subj: cdrom price list                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BL>please send me a catalog at
BL>include adult files/offers

Sure thing, Bryan.  Thanks for your interest!

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 109
  To: IAN LEVSTEIN                             Date: 05/30/93  8:51a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IL>I'd appreciate a copy:

Ok, Ian.  I'll get one out to you.  Thanks!

IL>Adult titles are ok with me.

Me too.  I just don't want to offend anybody.

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 110
  To: BOB KERR                                 Date: 05/30/93  8:53a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BK>you can add me to your mailing please

Consider yourself added, Bob.  Thanks for your interest.

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 111
  To: WAYNE ASHWORTH                           Date: 05/30/93  8:55a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WA>Would appreciate being added to the mailing list, adult titles included.

Sure thing, Wayne.  Thanks for your interest!

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 112
  To: GARY MEYER                               Date: 05/30/93  9:50a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GM>Please send a catalog to:

It's already on the way, Gary. Thanks for your interest!

>also looking for good Adult CD-ROM Disks...Have Busty Babes...whta else
might
>you have?

I think the next biggest seller will be Digital Dreams.  It is all
original scans that are 800x600 or better with no BBS ads.  It has a
very nice user interface also.

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 113
  To: MARK EARLIWINE                           Date: 05/30/93  9:57a
Subj: cd-catalog                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ME>Hi Jim, please add me to your mailing list for the cd catalog.

Sure thing, Mark.  Thanks for your interest!

                                                        Jim...

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From: DOUG BURDEN                            Number: 114
  To: JEAN-GUY PARE                            Date: 05/30/93  1:24p
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOGS!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please include me in your catalog list!

DOug Burden
box 1163
Angus, Ontario
LOM 1BO

internet address [e-mail]

thanks
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From: DOUG BURDEN                            Number: 115
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 05/30/93  1:27p
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOGS!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please include my in your catalog list.

Doug Burden
box 1163
Angus, Ontario
Canada L0M 1B0

please include adult lists as well.

Doug
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From: DOUG BURDEN                            Number: 116
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 05/30/93  1:31p
Subj: WALNUT CREEK NEW RELEASES               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

what is your price on the Simtel 20?
 Doug Burden
internet [e-mail]
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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 117
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93  3:09p
Subj: The Seventh Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm interested in everyone's comments on the Seventh Guest game. Please list
any price offers and I'll be sure to get back to you. Thanks!!


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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 118
  To: WALT LANE                                Date: 05/30/93  7:59p
Subj: FileShop Shareware CDROM $15!!          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Hmm...  How about $20 for one.

 > Walt Lane - Sysop: The File Shop BBS

How about 1 for $15 like the subject line says?

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From: VINCENT TESTA                          Number: 119
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93 12:34p
Subj: CDROM DISK                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi'ya All ...

I am looking for NIXPIX volume 1 if anyone has it for sale?


Ciao, Vincent

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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 120
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 05/30/93  4:18a
Subj: Cdrom drives                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* On 05-27-93 in a message to Paul Janel, Boris Osadciw said:
BO> The lowest price SCSI unit we have NEW would be a Internal
BO> Texel 3021,

What would the price for a 3024 or 5024 be?  (No cables/Controller)
BO> which would be $195. for the bare unit or an NEC36M External

NEC CDR38-1
NEC CDR72

Thanks,

.dn
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From: SCOTT ELMORE                           Number: 121
  To: GREGORY YERXA                            Date: 05/30/93  9:32a
Subj: Cds                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GY >        I am interested in any cheap ($10-$20) CDs.  I just

    I will sell you my unused Phoenix 3.0 CD for $20.00..
I also have Monkey Island for $30.00

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From: MARIO BONELLI                          Number: 122
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 05/30/93  2:01p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den Inc. CD Complaint!  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On This Day And Age [28-May-9317:45:00] Lee Noga, (1:3618/23) Bellowed:

Greetings Lee,

 LN> You mean "Gal", yes ? Be patient, they are in the works :)

OH, well excuse me for that little mistake, I had no idea who Iwas dealing
with. :)

 LN> Secret.

Do tell? :) Ok, I'll wait! :)

 LN> You have impeccable taste !

Well thank you. Im just ready to push those buttons on the dialing pad, to
make my next order! :)

Mario Bonelli - CNET & AMIGA_CDROM FidoNet Echo Moderator - FREQ US!
***
This book has too much plot and not enough story.
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From: NANCY PORTER                           Number: 123
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 05/31/93 10:07a
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TB> I am getting a few more used internal Hitachi 3500's.  I will  be
TB>  offering them for $130 each. Controller cards are $60  that  will
TB>  run up to 4 of these drives.  4 of these drives are available for
TB>  $600 with controller card, case and cables  to  connect  to  your

Wait a moment.  130
                x 4
                ---
                520
                +60
                ---
                580

And YOU are selling them for $600?  Such a deal! <Sigh!>
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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 124
  To: CHRIS BARRETT                            Date: 05/29/93 11:21p
Subj: CD-ROMs WANTED!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Would a Pilips CM-100 for $150, including shipping in original box work for
you--includes card and cable.  Less than one year of use--spend most of its
life in storage as excess equipment.  Call me at 719-495-0495, if interested.


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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 125
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 05/29/93 11:30p
Subj: Cd's...                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Your list of CDs cannot be read.  I think the margin is set too large accross
the screen.


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From: PAUL SCHENCKE                          Number: 126
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93  7:54p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jim, could you send me a catalog to:

Paul Schencke
11627 SW 90th St
Miami, FL, 33127

Thanks

-P

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From: LUKE MITCHELL                          Number: 127
  To: SYSOP (APPARENTLY FROM 2601/566)         Date: 05/31/93  7:02p
Subj: *ioneer                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi this is luke
how about some cash and a sb16 cd rom drive?


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From: BRANDON QUINN                          Number: 128
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/30/93 10:30a
Subj: catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

please send me a catalog:

Brandon Quinn
3416 Omega Drive
Tyler, Texas 75701

Thanks!

 * SLMR 2.0 * Damnit Jim, PAS 16 is a sound card, not a Vulcan sex act


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 129
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 05/31/93 10:18a
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Where did you get this drive, and how much did you pay? Thanks!


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From: SAM FERTITTA                           Number: 130
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93 11:20a
Subj: Looking for cd's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Now that I have finally gotten a CDRom, I am quite anxious to get some used
CD's. SOme for dad, some for the kids. The kids would like Sherlock Holmes 2,
or 3, Mammals, Karyndia(?), Dinosaurs, or any others that might come to mind.
For dad, well, any xxxx-rated cd's out there?

Thanks to all....Sam

p.s. Boris, somehow a driver that wouldnt work was loaded and after trial and
error was able to figure it out. Works perfectly now. You didnt send a
catalog however. Thanks..

... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 131
  To: KEITH RITCHIE                            Date: 05/24/93  8:38p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Keith -

   > The drive itself is labeled LU005 but the box it came in
   > is labeled CRMC. Is this correct?? Is the LU005 and the
   > CRMC the same drive or did they try and pull a fast one

The box for both models says CRMC, but the new drives also have
a barcode strip with "MTSCMRC 005S" on it.

                                                  - Arnie :+}

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 132
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 05/31/93  1:06p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den Inc. CD Complaint!  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Mario Bonelli <05-30-93 12:56> Doug Carpenter wrote:

DC>> Definitely not an INFORMED complaint!! <g>  They just released a new
DC>> CD that is supposed to be a real nice Clip Art CD called PCX
DC>> Potpourri.  I am sure they will be publishing some more soon.

Thanks Babe !! You bet we are and there is going to be a "Busty Babes Vol
II", 1000 scans, no penetration shots on this disc--Just locked into the deal
this weekend--All material is copyrighted by photographer and he is allowing
it to go on the BBS. We expect to bring this disc to market in 45 days (ready
to ship). Gorgeous woman, and top notch professional scanning.

We are also going through the PowerPak Shareware '93 disk to weed out any
potential copyright programs--So that should be ready to go out by 1 July.

Vampire's Kiss has been held back due to the fact that we are not happy with
the quality of the current movie disc's in the market--Lion's Den *REFUSES*
to put out movies unless we feel we can put them out to consumer
expectations--So far IBM technology is off the marker, but we did find a
company at COMDEX that want to prove us wrong, and want the to do the project
with us as a joint venture--SO we are sending them beta clips to see what
they are all about--

So we stepped back and re-organized, and are going to try to set a new trend,
and raise the standards of the industry, and spare the consumer's from some
of the ripoff disc scams--

You will notice more then ever, that unless the disc is licensed material,
the publisher won't last long, because the industry is going to see more and
more lawsuits against the adult publisher's--CD-ROM awareness is here and no
disc is safe now even if it is out of print--We know for a fact that there
were scouts up at COMDEX for the sole purpose of buying up disc's for
witchhunt purposes......some were after the shareware as well etc....

In a way this was bound to happen, and it should decrease the re-hashing
syndrome that is occuring now--

This is another reason why the US plants shutdown--They did not want to be
named as a party on any infringement suits etc--They saw this coming, and now
that we have been caught, we really did not know how dangerous it was
publishing adult/shareware CD's--The honeymoon is over, and the lawsuits are
rolling in. So by the end of the year you will only see the strong
publisher's survive----What publisher's don't realize is they have no
corporate protection with infringement suits, and they are personally liable
and stand to lose everything.

Some say that they will not disclose info on the disc that can track them
personally, and what they don't realize, is the distrib is then liable and
will be caught holding the bag--So distribution should be selective in the
disc's they carry, because they are as liable as the publisher--So, if you
don't have any identification of the publisher on the product, contact
address etc, you may want to reconsider carrying the disc--There are people
trying to get legislation passed that forces publisher's to reveal their
identity-- Just food for thought this year, this is the year of lawsuits
which is the infantile step towards CD regulation.

Thanks for the KUDO !

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: PAUL O'SULLIVAN                        Number: 133
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 05/28/93 12:21p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS FROM WITHIN I               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BJ> Since a standard audio CD can only hold about 60-65 minutes of music,

Actually 74 minutes.



... IBM - Making tomorrow's mistakes Today!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: ANDY YEE                               Number: 134
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 05/30/93  8:32p
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

do you sell adult cd-roms?


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 135
  To: DENNY VANDEMAELE                         Date: 05/31/93  6:27a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >I'm interested in all Non-Adult Cd-Roms.

Ok, Denny.  I have one on the way to you.  Thanks for your interest!

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 136
  To: RICHARD KRUGER                           Date: 05/31/93  6:30a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >Well yes please, add me to your mailing list. Send me info on all CD's
avail
  >Adult included.

I'd be glad to, Richard, but I need your address.  Please leave me
another message or give me a call.  Thanks for your interest!

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 137
  To: KENT DYER                                Date: 05/31/93  6:33a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KD>I'd like to be on your mailing list for the catalog.
KD>Please include ALL types of titles, including adult.

Sure thing, Kent.  It's on the way.  Thanks for your interest!

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 138
  To: TOM CASHMORE                             Date: 05/31/93  6:36a
Subj: CD-Rom Mailing List ....                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TC>Please include me in your mailing list. Also interested in Adult titles
(Wh
  >isnt<g>..). Send to :

Ok, Tom.  You're on it.  I'll get one right out to you.  Thanks for your
interest!

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 139
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 05/31/93  7:29a
Subj: CDROM Retailer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GH>If you would like a catalog of over 400 CDROM titles, including games,
  >shareware discs, educational items, Art/Desktop publishers, Business,
  >Military, Health, and Research/Literature.

Please add me to your mailing list.  Do you have discounts for quantity
sales?

                                                        Jim...
Rt 3  Box 794-B
Ashford, AL 36312
[phone]

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 140
  To: KELLY LESSARD                            Date: 05/31/93  7:35a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOGS                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KL>Interested in recieving one of those CD-ROM catalogs...

Sure thing, Kelly.  I'll get you one right out.  Thanks for your
interest!

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 141
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93  7:43a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, and we'd be
glad to get one right out to you.  Thanks!

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 142
  To: CARL GRAHAM                              Date: 05/31/93  2:09p
Subj: prophone                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Carl!

In a message to Mark Abbacchi <05/29/93> Carl Graham wrote:

CG> Hi Mark...if you still have the prophone cd's I would like to get them.
CG> Call me collect or thru echo...904-733-4403

I have one three disk set... still on special for $20.00!
1-800-289-1ROM or 1-314-521-4862 INTERNATIONAL!

Mark
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 143
  To: DENNY VANDEMAELE                         Date: 06/02/93  8:00a
Subj: Re: CDROM DISTRIBUTORS WA               Refer: 3488
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Hello Tim,
->     What CD's have you put out?  Which one are you working on now?

We do the Shareware Studio & SoundWAV CDs... We're currently working on
Shareware Studio III and hope to have it available in late summer.

We've just gotten an exclusive to distribute a new & interactive adult
title.  This disc is 100% original - original girls, original film,
original music, original art, original concept, original everything...
Nothing currently available can touch it. The video portions of this
disc are 30 frames/second on a 320x200 pixel screen and are less than
150 kb/second.  The disc should be ready in about 2 weeks...

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 144
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/02/93  8:05a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: 3549
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Me too.  I just don't want to offend anybody.

Jim, don't respond to "send me a catalog" messages...

tim
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 145
  To: STEPHEN RUSBOLDT                         Date: 05/31/93 11:27p
Subj: Re: PIONEER SPECIAL                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SR>>  I am running a 16 bit Future Domain controller with SCSI-2
 SR>>  connectors (mini 50 pin D type).  Do you have cables that
 SR>>  would interface to my controller?  If you do what do they
 SR>>  cost?
>>
 BO>> No problem here, the cable you require ( SCSI-2 to SCSI ) it is in
 BO>> stock and the cost is $59. plus S&H, which would all depend on if
 BO>> you want c.o.d or pre-pay your order.

>>    What type of connector is on the Pioneer Drives?  There are a
>>    couple different type SCSI connectors.  Is it a 25 pin "D"
>>    type?  Or is it similar to the Centronics connector?

It's a 50 D pin to Centronics shielded cable.....

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 146
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 05/31/93  3:45p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <29 May 93  08:47:00>, Terry Woodward (1:369/14) writes:
 >I have the following Cd's for trade.
 >Smutware
 >My private collection,volume 2
 >Adult reference library
 >PC-Pix, volume 2
I have Giffy Gold, I am interested in any of the above for a straight across
trade. But first tell me, what is the Adult reference library? I don't think
I want this one, but would like to know what it is.


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From: LOUIS BARTET                           Number: 147
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/31/93  1:25p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jim,
   Ditto on the catalog.  My address is:

                 Louis Bartet
                 Rt. 1, Box 102
                 Downsville, La. 71234

                                 THANKS!!
                                  lou
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From: LOUIS BARTET                           Number: 148
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 05/31/93  1:29p
Subj: CDROM Retailer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GH>Items added dialy/weekly via out support BBS (614-436-0180) and the
 GH>catalog is updated and put out monthly.
 GH>Must call each month (or leave message via here, or my BBS) to recieve a
 GH>catalog.
 GH>614-436-9223
 GH>FAX-436-8326
 GH>BBS-436-0180

 Gabe,
   Please send me a catalog.  My address is:

                                 Lou Bartet
                                 Rt. 1. Box 102
                                 Downsville, La. 71234
                                                 Thanks,
                                                   lou
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 149
  To: GARY MEYER                               Date: 06/01/93  3:07a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Disks                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Thanks for the Info on Adult CD-ROMS.....Looking for something
>>    like BUSTY  BABES which I have now....Basic the same type but
>>    with different selections of  GIF's I use them on my
>>    BBS....ProBoard.....and will have to have them so that they
>>    are FILES.BBS...in each of the CD-ROM Dir.....I Run an adult
>>    BBS with  some 6,000 GIF's + and have some 17,000 on-line
>>    files.....will give you a call  thanks......much!

I would suggest Ecstacy as your 2nd selection as it is made by the same
author and is jsut as good, if not better than Busty.

We also have this in stock, so give us a call and we'll be happy to
assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 150
  To: RICHARD VONZEL                           Date: 06/01/93  3:07a
Subj: Re: cd-rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Are you selling drives also?? I'm looking for a Internal
>>    Mitsumi.

Yes we do Richard, as well as other computer relaited products.

If your interested, please feel free to give us a call at 216-225-3263
anytime and we'll be happy to help you out.

Boris Osadciw

... Oh never mind!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 151
  To: RAND NOWELL                              Date: 06/01/93  3:07a
Subj: Re: Contact!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Hi Boris,

>>    Seems every time I call you, you're out! You hiding? :-)

>>    Please give =me= a call soon as you can, will be gone this
>>    weekend, but call me next week.  Try anytime, but after 6:00
>>    PST is the best of all.

>>    Rand!

>>    Damar Entr.

I should be here the rest of this week as it will be one of those
squeeze 7 days into 4.

You shouldn't have any problems getting a hold of me at all this week.

Boris Osadciw

... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 152
  To: JEAN-GUY PARE                            Date: 06/01/93  3:07a
Subj: Re: NEW GAMES DISK                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Allo Boris,

->> Already on it's way Jean !!!

>>         Thank, I try to sent you a net mail direct on your bbs,
>>         your modem answer but he dont accept my messsage, is the
>>     trouble is on my or your side? Thank for your CD list.

I don't think so Jean !! We jsut installed 2 more new modems ( ZyXel's )
and we had a few bugs to work out. I think everything is OK now, since
much of the system seems to be running just fine now.

Enjoy your new cd's !!

Boris Osadciw

... Real Programmers use "Copy Con Filename.exe"
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 153
  To: BRANDON QUINN                            Date: 06/01/93  3:07a
Subj: Re: Texel DM-3024                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    I'm within a week or two on deciding what drive to buy and
>>    where.  I have the PAS-16 sound card and was wondering if your
>>    bare Texel DM-3024 drive includes, not only the drive,
>>    mounting rails, SCSI (50 pin) cable and caddy, but also the 5
>>    pin audio cable?

Nope, the audio cables do not come with the system.

>>    If not, how much is the audio cable?

If your going to hook the Texel to the Pro, then you'll need the sound
kit, which we have in stock and it's priced at $25. This gives you the
cable, manual, drivers for the Pas and another scsi cable as well.

>>    Is the Texel DM-3024 the best multi-spin, SCSI drive for the
>>    money on the market right now?

From all the experiance we've had with all the system we've sold. The Texel
is the best for your $$ so far. It offers very good service and
compatiablity as well as more bang for your bucks.

If you need further assistance, please feel free to call us anytime 7 days
a week at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to help you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 154
  To: DENNY VANDEMAELE                         Date: 06/01/93  3:07a
Subj: Re: CD Speedway                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Is anybody selling CD Speedway disk caching software?

>>    Does it work?  Have you tried it??
>>    Thanks

Den, there's a NEW one just out call "PC-KWIK". It'll cache your hard drive
as well as your cd, plus offers keyboard buffers, screen enhancers and more.

The street price is $39.00 and worth it as it is the lowest cost cache we've
seen.

You can call them direct at 503-644-5644 and ask for the order department.

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 155
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93  3:07a
Subj: CD Systems Special                      Refer: NONE
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 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $369.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $459.00
Sony Int 380ms Bare Dr  - $285.00 LIMITED Sony Ext 380ms Kit   - $395.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $379.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Receive $5. off drive for each CD purchased - Max 4 - No Specials/Bundles
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $14.00ec
Information on the above or 400 + CD titles call [phone] anytime !


Boris Osadciw

... Oh never mind!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 156
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93  3:07a
Subj: Special                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Monster Disk - $35.  Shareware Extravag - $45.   CD PowerBox      - $20.
Pier 1       - $29.  SoundWaV           - $25.   Shareware Online - $29.
Asian Ladies - $35.  Adult Ref Library  - $35.   All ChestNuts    - $14.
Hobbs OS/2   - $25.  Windows 1993       - $25.   Night Owl 8      - $29.
Groilers Ency DOS / Windows Version - $50.00ec   Night Owl 7      - $19.
Gameware     - $30.  Canadian Shareware - $15.   IBM Sampler      - $ 7.
  Mitsumi Int (350ms) - $195. Nec36M - Complete Ext SCSI System $269.
        Pioneer DM600 - Bare Drive - $799.     DM604X - $1199.
 ORDERS ONLY - 800-243-0517 For Tech or Product Info Call - 216-225-3263
      (((((((((((   Call Us - You'll Be Glad You Did   ))))))))))))))


Boris Osadciw

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 157
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 05/30/93  8:15a
Subj: Re: Adult cd's to swap                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 29 May 93  08:47:00, I heard Terry Woodward shout to All:

TW> I have the following Cd's for trade.
TW> Smutware
TW> My private collection,volume 2
TW> Adult reference library
TW> PC-Pix, volume 2

Terry,

  Well I have Volcano (ADULT) and VGA Spectrum for trade, If interested, Just

leave me a Note...

                                  ........|<evin

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From: B.A. CROWELL                           Number: 158
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/01/93  1:01a
Subj: NEW CATALOG IS DONE!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike,
    I'd like a catalog.

         B.A. Crowell
         3121 Dartmouth Dr.
         Plano, Tx.  75075

                          Thanx,
                                Bruce

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From: DONALD WOOD                            Number: 159
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 05/31/93  7:40p
Subj: Telemagic                               Refer: NONE
Read: 06/04/93  8:53a                       Private: No

BUT CAN IT USE SCAN PICTURES FOR EACH SUBJECT????? I NEED A D. BASE THAT CAN
STORE A SCAN PICTURE SO I CAN KEEP RECORDS OF MY BIRDS I SELL
IN MY BUSNESS.....
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From: RYAN PARK                              Number: 160
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/93 12:23p
Subj: CATALOG                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I've seen messages to about five different people about "the
catalog" and would like to be placed on a subscription.  If
there is more than one "catalog", I'd like to be on ALL of the
catalogs EXCEPT nothing adult.

BEFORE 26 JUNE 1993             AFTER 26 JUNE 1993

Ryan Park                       Ryan Park Consulting
1311 Denniston Avenue           2158 Andrew Court
Bettendorf IA  52722            Bettendorf IA  52722

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From: RON GAGE                               Number: 161
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93  4:50p
Subj: Hitachi cdrom wanted                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* * * * * WANTED * * * * *

I am in need of a few Hitachi CDR-3600u CDROM drives.  I do not need the
drivers or the controller. I am looking for quantity 4 of these drives. NEW
OR USED.

What is your best price... shipping included ?

Ronald R. Gage
Sysop, Sound Power Systems
Voice - [phone]

tlhlngan Hol Dajatlh'a'


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From: RON GAGE                               Number: 162
  To: STEVE LEU                                Date: 05/31/93  4:58p
Subj: Cd-roms wanted!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Steve:
-> Chris, I have 4 Hitachi drives that run off of one controller, so
-> they are single propriety.  They do, however, have caddies.  (it
-> really speeds up the drives!)  I am willing to sell them for along
-> with a 4-bay case for $650 + shipping.  Let me know.

If this Chris person didn't bite, then I will.  I am looking for Hitachi
CDR-3600u drives, 4 of them.  The drives you are describing sound like the
3500's and they will work just fine I'm sure.  If you still have them and
want to part with them, please give me a call.  Thanks.

Ronald R. Gage
Sysop, Sound Power Systems
Voice - [phone]

tlhlngan Hol Dajatlh'a'


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 163
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93 10:56p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Since many of you have already finished with Seventh Guest, how about selling
it to someone who hasn't got it yet?  I'll offer $30 for the game in good
condition, complete.

              Carlos
                   Netmail        1:125/17
                   BBS            415-641-0348
                   Voice          415-647-2881

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 164
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 05/31/93 11:05p
Subj: Nix Pix Hot Pix 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

27 May 93 22:56, Ben Nation wrote to All:

 BN> for sale Nix Pix Hot PIx 1, Originally $89 plus shipping & handling
 BN> (approx. $100) will sell for $75 firm, this is the one banned in
certain

It was a pleasure to speak with you tonight, Ben.  I'll have that money
order in the mail before Wednesday.  Thanks,
              Carlos
                   Netmail        1:125/17
                   BBS            415-641-0348
                   Voice          415-647-2881

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From: CHARLES HELD                           Number: 165
  To: JIM CLEMENTS                             Date: 05/30/93  4:28p
Subj: Oxford english dictionary               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Defense will prove that on 05-28-93 at exactly 12:00, Jim Clements spake
thusly to John Hughes:

JC>JH>I'm looking for the Oxford English Dictionary. Does anyone know who
JC>JH>has the best price? The suggested retail price for the two-disk set
JC>JH>$895.
JC>
JC>
JC>The OED II at about $895 U.S. is one disc. There was an earlier two-di
JC>DOS version (only the original OED, none of them OED II updates). If y
JC>are going to spend that kind of money, make sure you are getting the O
JC>II. Cheers!

It is expensive at $895, but the CD is about 1/3 the cost of the bound
version (and a whole lot easier to search!)  Of course, if word origins and
language history are your thing, the OED is IT.  But don't drop $895 on it if
you just want to have "the biggest dictionary on your block".

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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 166
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 06/01/93  9:59a
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JR>      in doing this.  BTW it does require unplugging the speakers from
 JR>      the Soundblaster and plugging into the drive, but if this is really
 JR>      problem free I may buy a second set of speakers.
 JR>                                 /JIM/
                  Are you saying, just pluging speaker to the
         controller card, we can play cd ? Jim, pl. give us more
         Tnx.


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 167
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93  7:29p
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 ****      CD-ROM International * [phone] (Order Line)          ****
 ****                   [phone] (Voice)                         ****
 ****                   [phone] (BBS/Fax)                       ****
 **************************************************************************


 Bibles & Religion ........... 12.00  Source CD-ROM ............... 17.00
 CD PowerBox ................. 22.00  Super Games for Windows .....  5.00
 Guinness Disc of Records .... 30.00  Too Many Typefonts .......... 12.00
 Night Owl's 7.0 ............. 19.00  USA Wars: American Civil War  29.00
 Night Owl's 8.0 ............. 29.00  USA Wars: Desert Storm ...... 29.00
 Publish-It! v2.0 ............ 29.00  USA Wars: Korea ............. 29.00
 Q&A v4.0 on CD-ROM .......... 59.00  USA Wars: Vietnam ........... 29.00
 Reference Library ........... 24.00  USA Wars: World War II ...... 29.00
 Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det ... 39.00  Super_CD II ................. 19.00
 Programmer's Mega Pack ...... 34.00

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 168
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93  7:34p
Subj: CD WinBox - WINDOWS DISK                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

NEW Windows-based Shareware CD-ROM:

                       *#############*
                       #  CD WinBox  #         ONLY  $34!
                       *#############*

This is a GREAT addition for folks that already own the CD PowerBox.
If you're into WINDOWS - the WinBox is for you.  Here are the disc's stats:

*    Approximately 6,000 files.
*    Over 30% are TRULY dated 1993!
*    Over 620 MegaBytes of files, icons, articles, and
     bitmaps.
*    40 Files areas each with a multi-line file description
     in the FILES.BBS format.
*    Use the true Windows-based Graphical User Interface for
     quick file location and installation!
*    Huge amounts of applications (this disk is not just a
     collection of icons and graphics!)

#    AREA NAME:                    #    AREA NAME:
------------------------------     ----------------------------
1    New & Journals                21   Networking
2    Windows NT                    22   Windows for Workgroups
3    Financial & Investment        23   Communications A-M
4    Printer Utils/Drivers         24   Communications N-Z
5    Games A-M                     25   Icons Galore A-G
6    Games N-Z                     26   Icons Galore H-P
7    Personal Info. Managers       27   Icons Galore Q-Z
8    Multimedia - Video            28   Icon Apps/Utils
9    Multimedia - Sound A-M        29   Screen Savers
10   Multimedia - Sound N-Z        30   Fonts - ATM Type A-M
11   Developers Files              31   Fonts - ATM Type N-Z
12   Visual Basic A-M              32   Fonts - TrueType A-M
13   Visual Basic N-Z              33   Fonts - TrueType N-Z
14   Word for Windows              34   Fonts - Apps/Utils
15   Other Word Processors         35   Educational
16   Graphics - Apps/Utils         36   Spreadsheet Related
17   Graphics - BMP/RLE A-M        37   Database
18   Graphics - BMP/RLE N-Z        38   Apps A-J
19   Graphics - PCX A-M            39   Apps K-S
20   Graphics - PCX N-Z            40   Apps T-Z


CD-ROM International
[phone]  (Orders)
[phone]  (Voice)
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From: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                       Number: 169
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  3:07a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** This message originally written by: Boris Osadciw

************ H O T  N E W /// GAMES 1993 \\\ H O T  N E W ************

         Here it is !!!  A complete BBS Ready " ALL GAMES DISK"
             File Dates - "89 - 93" - Most Files Are "92"
            6,000 + Files - 500+ Megs - 2% Duplication Max
  Unprotects, Solutions, Tetris Clones, Lotto, Casino, Sports, VGA
              Arcade, FS4, Utilities and more.......!!!
                             Price - $29.00
To order, please call our "ORDER LINE ONLY" # 800-243-0517 or for
additional information, call us at 216-225-3263 anytime 23.5hrs a day.

Boris Osadciw

... No, Taco Bell is NOT the Mexican telephone company!
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From: ROGER COLLINS                          Number: 170
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 05/31/93  8:11p
Subj: Adult ROMs Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->  DA> Seeing as how a used CD is indistinguishable from a new CD (assu
->
->
-> I agree with Doug Adams - undamaged "used" CDs are as perfect as new
-> ones. I have Storm I & II, Private Pictures, and Erotic Encounters fo
-> sale (also trade) at $20 each plus $5/ORDER for shipping. Call me at
-> 713-488-0065 if you're interested. All items subject to prior sale -
-> not a dealer - these are "one each".


Well, I was gonna let this die, but seeing how I'm being pushed...
So what's the difference between new and used software period? Aren't
"Used" floppies as good as new ones (seeing how they get a lot less use
than CDs, I'd say so...) I don't figure. Anyways, end of thread


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 171
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93  4:46p
Subj: Toshiba CD-ROM Drives                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


Toshiba XM-3201 SCSI CD-ROMS Drives.

External Unit:

Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
power supply and cable.  Include two Centronics 50 connectors mounted to
rear of the enclosure for I/O and passthru cabling.  Easy access to SCSI
ID DIP Switches to change addressing.  True SCSI. 350ms Access. 150k
transfer rate.

$230.00

Internal Unit:

Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM bare drive.  DIP Switches for SCSI ID Setting.
True SCSI, 350ms Access, 150k transfer rate.

$200.00

205-837-5053


Michael Konor
AMIGA_CDROM Co.Moderator




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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 172
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 05/31/93 12:16a
Subj: Cd's...                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CS>DON'T TAKE A FULL LINE THEY GET TRUNCATED AND ARE UN-READABLE.

Has it gotten any better?

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 173
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 05/31/93 12:16a
Subj: Cd's...                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PD>Your CD listing is too wide for the BBS screen, so it can't be read.
Please
PD>shrink the margins and reupload.

Has it gotten any better?

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 174
  To: CAROLE JOHNSON                           Date: 05/31/93 12:16a
Subj: Cd-rom drives & bundles..               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CJ>> The Animals                                            $ > 29.99 Compton
CJ>Interactive Encyclopedia > $ 109.99 National Geographic Mammals > $
27.99

CJ>Thanks for the info.  I'll call before I order to make sure the price is
CJ>still in effect.

PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Drive, Danvers, MA 01923-3453 Phone: [phone]
- MASTERCARD & VISA ACCEPTED!!!!
-------------------------------------------------------------- CD's
-------------------------------------------------------------- The Animals
                                           $28 Compton Interactive
Encyclopedia                         $103 National Geographic Mammals
                      $26
--------------------------------------------------------------
Prices/specifications subject to change without notice. Cash discount 2.5%,
COD-$5 extra, requires $15 deposit.

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From: ANDREW MURPHY                          Number: 175
  To: BOB HILTON                               Date: 05/30/93  8:19a
Subj: How do i ...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Hope somebody can help me figure this out ...
-> I have a SoundBlaster card and external CD-ROM drive from Creative
-> Designs attached to my main (desktop model) pc -- I'd like to also
-> connect the CD-ROM drive to my notebook pc through the parallel
-> port.  I don't need the sound card, and am willing to accept
-> a slightly slower data transfer rate, but I really want access to
-> the CD-ROM from the notebook pc.  Help! How do I do this?
->
-> Thanks, Bob.

How much do you need to use it?  If it is only needed when you have the
two computers together, you can use Unet or Lantastic Z to run a
parallel port network.  Unet is shareware, and allows the slave machine
to use the drives on the server, in this case your desktop.  That's one
solution.


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From: BOB BROCK                              Number: 176
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/01/93  1:55p
Subj: Re: Adult ROMs Wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ> I agree with Doug Adams - undamaged "used" CDs are as perfect as new
BJ> ones. I have Storm I & II, Private Pictures, and Erotic Encounters for
BJ> sale (also trade) at $20 each plus $5/ORDER for shipping. Call me at

Sorry, i disagree USED is USED no matter what condition it's in! Everything
Looses a great deal of value the very first time it becomes used and after a
few months OLD become out dated and STALE nobodies interested in a 2 months
old play boy or PC magazine.... These are not antiques or hard to find items,

get real there being SOLD because you don't want them RIGHT, why not there
PERFECTLY new and good condition!!

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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 177
  To: DEALERS                                  Date: 05/31/93  8:37a
Subj: Catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello, I've recently set up CD ROMs on my BBS and I need more disks!
Send me your catalogs:
  Phil Polstra
  PO Box 2
  Otterbein, IN 47970-0002

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 178
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 05/31/93  9:18p
Subj: ASIAN LADIES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DR>Call Ismail Arslangiray of GroupWare... he's in pretty tight with the
publis
DR>of Asian Ladies.  He knows EXACTLY who they are and where they're at.
Ismai
DR>number is [phone] or [phone].

Thanks, Dave. I have to decide if I want to go to all of the time,
trouble, and expense to get lawyers involved. Several of the gifs that
they used are my scans from my (copyrighted) photos.

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * If I save the whales, where do I put them?


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 179
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93 11:21p
Subj: I am looking...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a cdrom that has clipart that I could use with my word
processors and dtp programs


sincerely
vito


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From: ALFRED FRANKLIN                        Number: 180
  To: MIKE MAST                                Date: 05/31/93  9:50p
Subj: Need A Cd Scsi Controller               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey,
 Thanks, I really need that Controller...Here is my # - 303-534-3384 ask for
AL! I am usually at home in the afternoons...Give me a call so that we can
set up something!
          Thanks again!
            Alfred Franklin

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From: DON HOUSTON                            Number: 181
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 05/31/93  9:50a
Subj: Cdrom retailer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Must call each month (or leave message via here, or my BBS) to recieve a
catalog.
        Gabe...add my name & address to your mailing list..Thannxxz!
                D. R. Houston
                P.O. Box 14341
                Tampa, Fl. 33690-4341


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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 182
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 05/31/93 11:14a
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den In               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hi lee, did you get the disks i sent you? i hope they are are suitable
for your needs. i could not send alot of them because of the girls in
them, they are local girls and did not wish to have themselves displayed
upon a public media such as a cd disk, sorry about that, but the ones i
did send have full consent, one is an old gilr friend, but i wont
mention which <G> she said no problemo. also are a few original cartoons
that i made here, hope that it will be ok...  see ya and take care, hope
that all is well for you... bye bye    rick (bubba) therrien
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 183
  To: JIM CLEMENTS                             Date: 05/31/93 11:17a
Subj: OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hello jim,  are you the same jim clements on the Tampa Bay area local
cable access shows????? if so call me at 813-934-3307 this is the bbs
number in tampa...  i have a friend of yours that is on this bbs..
give us a call ok?  see ya
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 184
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 05/31/93 11:18a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

what do you want in trade???????????????????
 let us know  , ennquiring minds need to know!
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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 185
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 06/01/93  6:06p
Subj: FRAUD!                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I like to think I am honest...  anyway, the cd boxes come  shrink
-> wrapped from the press. I can't add or take away anything without
-> breaking the wrap which I paid dearly to have put there.  I  hope


Terry, I was shocked to read part of my original message that you
kindly echoed back to me. I NEVER meant to imply that you were in any
way less than totally honest! That message from me to you reads in a
totally different meaning than what I intended when I typed it. I was
just trying to suggest a way of informing your buyers of the change.

Please accept my apology!!!

I see your point about the shrink wrap. Putting a sticker over the
shrink wrap also takes a lot away from the product's visual appeal.
Having a separate explanation sheet to go with the CD just complicates
life for you and your distributors and other outlets.

I wish you great success with your CD. Your extra compacting of the
files added value to the product (for BBS purposes). The only ill
effect is to alter the numbers a little on the box liner.

James
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From: JOHN TRIMBACK                          Number: 186
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/01/93  9:32p
Subj: Re: Sony CD-ROM drive                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

scott i can offer you 1 - 4meg sim and 4- 256K sims for this drive? leave
mail...later!

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 187
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 05/31/93 11:10p
Subj: CDROM Retailer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GH>If you would like a catalog of over 400 CDROM titles, including games,

Hi Gabe,
     I would like to receive your catalog.    Shane Snyder
                                              286 Main St. Apt#3
                                              Greenville PA  16125
                      <THANKS>
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From: JEAN-GUY PARE                          Number: 188
  To: DOUG BURDEN                              Date: 06/01/93  9:08a
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOGS!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Please include me in your catalog list!

   Sorry, but you send your message to the wrong personne.
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From: JEAN-GUY PARE                          Number: 189
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/01/93  9:12a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Jim,

Would appreciate being added to the mailing list, adult titles included.

Jean-Guy Pare
673 Clairette
Laval, Qc
H7P 2Y3

    Thanks for your attention.
          Jean-Guy
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 190
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93  7:05p
Subj: Re: Cd speedway                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PJ> I have read in some CD echo that there is a BETTER cd-caching
 PJ> software and its put out by Norton. If you didn't know, thats all that
 PJ> CD-SpeedWay is, a chaching software. I hoped that helped you some.

I just got an announcement today from an outfit called "Lucid" which is
marketing a caching program called "Lightening" which is supposed to be
able to cache HDD and CDs. For those interested, Lucid is located at:

Lucid Corp.
101 W. Renner Road
Suite 450
Richardson, TX  75082

They also market a DASHBOARD-like product for Win 3.1 called The Third
Dimension.


... Mary had a little RAM -- only about a MEG or so.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 191
  To: VINCENT TESTA                            Date: 06/01/93  7:20p
Subj: Re: CDROM DISK                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Vincent Testa to All <=-

 VT> I am looking for NIXPIX volume 1 if anyone has it for sale?

Try Goosebump Graphics *OR* the manufacturer: Nix Pix Freedom Fortress near
Chicago. Goosebump advertises in Computer Shopper ansd other PC mags; NPFF
is a subscription-only BBS that takes VISA, MC, etc. online. Try this
number:
[phone]. It works at 14.4 (and perhaps lower) speeds.



... Tagline fever is the primary symptom of the Blue Wave epidemic!!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 192
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/01/93  7:14p
Subj: New Busty II                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LN> Thanks Babe !! You bet we are and there is going to be a "Busty Babes
 LN> Vol II", 1000 scans, no penetration shots on this disc--Just locked
 LN> into the deal this weekend--All material is copyrighted by
 LN> photographer and he is allowing it to go on the BBS. We expect to
 LN> bring this disc to market in 45 days (ready to ship). Gorgeous woman,
 LN> and top notch professional scanning.

Is this the one you're gonna send me for a "no holds barred" review? Mike S.

isn't currently able to follow through on his offer to do something similar
so BB-2 could be the first! BTW: did you see my "strawman" evaluation
criteria?
If so, what did you think of it?

I know you've been at Comdex for the past few days, but it's surely good to
hear your melodious voice back on the echo again!  Cheers!
... "Milhouse, we live in the age of cooties!"  - Bart Simpson
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 193
  To: NANCY PORTER                             Date: 06/01/93  7:18p
Subj: Re: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Nancy Porter to Terry Blount <=-

 TB> I am getting a few more used internal Hitachi 3500's.  I will  be
 TB>  offering them for $130 each. Controller cards are $60  that  will

 TB>  run up to 4 of these drives.  4 of these drives are available for

 TB>  $600 with controller card, case and cables  to  connect  to  your

 NP>                             ^^^^^^^|^^^^^^^^
 NP> Wait a moment.                     |
     130                                |
 NP> x 4                                |
 NP> ---                                |
 NP> 520                                |
 NP> +60                                |
 NP> ---                                |
 NP> 580  + $20 for ---------------------
 NP>
 NP> And YOU are selling them for $600?  Such a deal! <-- Sounds like a
deal to me (if you need 4 drives in a S/A config.


... WARNING!  Removal of this tagline prohibited by law!
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From: KIPP CHAMBERS                          Number: 194
  To: LARRY WARNER                             Date: 05/31/93  8:36p
Subj: Re: FREE CD-ROM CATALOGS!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Well, Jim, it looks as if you'll be spending a lot of money on
stamps!  Please add me to your list (Send everything, if possible).

                Thanks,

                        Kipp A. Chambers
                        110 Victoria Place
                        Fayetteville, GA 30214-1176



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From: MIKE BOULTER                           Number: 195
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/01/93  3:59p
Subj: New catalog is done!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->    the asking!  Has complete pricing and descriptions on the 250+
->    CD titles that we keep IN STOCK on a regular basis!!

Please add me to your mailing list and include the catalog:

Mike Boulter
1107 Appleton Drive
Mansfield TX 76063


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From: CLIFF ESHOM                            Number: 196
  To: ED BAILEY                                Date: 05/31/93  4:53p
Subj: Mitsumi's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

thanks for the reply Ed.  (Yes tastes do vary alot! e.g. can/t
believe how many are into *so-called* adult CD's). It/s hard to know
what to buy without actually testing them first.
Will trade PC-Sig 10 for what have you....???


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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 197
  To: CD ROM SUPPLIERS                         Date: 06/01/93  7:47a
Subj: Catalogues                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy Guys,

I'm looking for places that will ship CDROM discs and their associated
cataloges.

Kirk Rawnsley
5128 Grove Hill Road SW
Calgary Alberta
T3E 4G6


          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: GARY FRICKE                            Number: 198
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/01/93  8:37p
Subj: Free cd-rom catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I would like a catalog sent to me at the following address:

Greg Meeker
9500 NE 80th Ave.
Vancouver Washington 98662

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From: GARY FRICKE                            Number: 199
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/01/93  8:47p
Subj: CD Systems                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris a couple friends of mine are interested in cd-roms disks and
hardware... They would like catalouges...
Greg Meeker
9500 NE 80th ave
Vancouver, Washington 98662

Mike Mullikin
1763 SW Christy Ct.
West Linn, Oregon
97068

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 200
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93  3:54a
Subj: How do I?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

How do I get my soundblaster to work with a Mitsumi internal drive?
Thanking you in advance,
Michael Sells


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 201
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93  7:58p
Subj: CDROM Drive $120                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have 1 used Hitachi 2500 internal cd rom drive for sale for $120.

This INCLUDES the drive, the card (which will control up to 4 Hitachi
drives),
the cable, a copy of the manual for the drive and manual for controller, and
a floppy disk with HITACHIA.SYS (software driver), MSCDEX.EXE (v2.21) and
sample
CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT on it.

The drive is a full-height, caddyless drive.  It looks good, is clean and
works well (as does the controller).

$120 for the complete package (plus shipping).

              Carlos
                   Netmail        1:125/17
                   BBS            415-641-0348
                   Voice          415-647-2881

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 202
  To: BILL HENDERSON                           Date: 06/01/93  5:28p
Subj: 7th guest trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

I have nothing to trade, but will take it off your hands for a decent
price...
-Jeff


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 203
  To: JOHN DECARLO                             Date: 05/31/93 10:20p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <30 May 93  18:47:55>, John DeCarlo (1:109/131) writes:
 >I have FAO I and am tired of it.  Interested in trading?
If he isn't, I'm tired of Giffy Gold, wanna trade?


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 204
  To: BILL HENDERSON                           Date: 06/01/93 10:22a
Subj: 7th Guest Trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

In a message of <30 May 93  22:03:01>, Bill Henderson (1:379/1) writes:
 >I have a two week old copy of 7th Guest that I just can't get into...what
 >do you have to trade? Really like to find Bible Library and Bibles and
 >Religion CD-Roms, but will consider all. Leave me a note.
I would love to have this! I have Giffy Gold (adult), VGA Spectrum II, Mega
Audio/Visual, and Danger Hot Stuff!  I am also willing to throw in cash, let
me know if we can work a deal!


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From: PAUL DEEMER                            Number: 205
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93  1:17p
Subj: Info Please                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



  To any Dealers or someone who has done this.

I have a Zeos 486dx2 66mhz desktop case and it only has one slot available
for an internal CD Rom drive, I have 7 expansion slots available and a
Vesa slot. Anyway I know I should have gone with the Tower case but too
late to worry about that now. Anyway I was thinking of getting 2 external
Scsi CD Rom drives but can't figure out how to use the internal SCSI
that is built into the zeos with an external cd rom. I was told I needed
a external port adapter or something like that. The zeos has a chip that
you buy for scsi for $49.00 and install it in the socket on the motherboard.

Does anyone know where to get the necessary adapter for extrnal scsi use?

I have been reading the messages in here for a long time and it seems as
tho the normal non SCSI, drives would work okay on a bbs. What would be
required to run 3 external cd rom drives daisy chained? Any info or
recommendations would be greatly appreciated. This has been driving me
crazy for months as People have been telling me differnet things.

Whatever happened to the easy way where you just pop in a card and hook
the cd rom up to it and just plug in the other drives to the first drive
in a daisy chain arrangement? Someone please clarify the procedure and
necessary controllers, cards cables etc for both an SCSI arrangement and
a normal non scsi arrangement. Thanks......

       -Paul-


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From: REN JUST                               Number: 206
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93  7:33a
Subj: LINUX CD-ROM For Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


LINUX AND INTERNET FILES ON CD-ROM

LINUX, a UNIX operating system workalike now available
on CD-ROM.  Includes GNU C/C++ compiler, X-Windows,
TCP/IP, sound card support and much more.  Only $49.95.

Also CD-ROMs available with source code and applications
from internet servers for DOS, UNIX, Amiga, C and Mac.
Call or write for listing.

To receive your LINUX CD-ROM call and order with your
charge card

or send $49.95 + $3.00 S/H (CA residents add 7.25% tax) to:

Just Computers!
PO Box 751414
Petaluma  CA 94975-1414

707-769-1648
Internet: [e-mail] OR [e-mail]

Visa and MasterCard gladly accepted.


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From: JOE VENTURELLI                         Number: 207
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/01/93  3:17p
Subj: Florida Lion's Den Inc. CD Complaint!   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Just a quick note to Echo Ms. Nogas sentiments concerning copyright
infringement etc. Publishers like myself and Lions Den have learned
the hard way that its not in anyones best interest to infringe
upon anyones copyrights. Further anyone doing an infringing disk
has two strikes against them #1 is the infringement and #2 is that
the "publisher" does not own the disk so another infringer can steal
the work and do some of their own infringing.
For Example the Seedy Rom Movie Disk #1 is a compilation of 80 minutes
of licensed Video footage and we will actively litigate any and
all infringements on that disk, as I assure you Lions Den will be
doing with their fine work.
Bottom line - The Adult disk market will be left to those who do it
by the book and the folks infringing on copyrights will find themselves in
court.
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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 208
  To: JEAN-GUY PARE                            Date: 06/01/93 11:56a
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOGS!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Jean-guy:

In a msg of <Sunday May 30 1993>, Doug Burden writes to Jean-guy Pare:

 DB> Please include me in your catalog list!
 DB> DOug Burden
 DB> box 1163
 DB> Angus, Ontario
 DB> LOM 1BO

     From this I assume that you're handing out free cd-rom catalogs?  If so,
could you please send one my way?

     Tyler Wunder
     28 Huntingdale Pl.
     Kitchener, ON
     N2A 3K6

     I have yet to invest in a cd rom, and want to see what's available
before I fork over hard earned $.

     Thanks.


Tyler A. Wunder

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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 209
  To: BILL HENDERSON                           Date: 06/01/93 11:59a
Subj: 7th Guest Trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

G'day Bill:

In a msg of <Sunday May 30 1993>, Bill Henderson writes to All:

 BH> do you have to trade? Really like to find Bible Library and Bibles and
 BH> Religion CD-Roms, but will consider all. Leave me a note.

     I too would like to see this information on cd-rom.  Is there anything
out there like this?  Particularly, a nice collection of various religious
texts (not just the Bible, but other the texts of other religions, as well)
would be nice to own.




Tyler A. Wunder

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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 210
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/01/93 12:00p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Jim:

In a msg of <Sunday May 30 1993>, Scott Fisher writes to Jim Lambert:

 SF>      Jim,
 SF>       I'd appreciate being added to your mailing list, and I'd be
 SF>      interested in the adult titles as well. Thanks in advance,

     It seems you've got some sort of mailing list for cd-rom catalogs.
Could you please put me on it?

     Tyler Wunder
     28 Huntingdale Pl.
     Kitchener, ON
     N2A 3K6

     Thanks.

Tyler A. Wunder

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 211
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93  6:32a
Subj: CD-Rom Changer ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can anyone tell me where I can get a CD-Rom Changer ?  I think thats
basically what they are, You can place about 6-8 CD's in it, and access them
all at any given time ??  Any help would be helpful, I seen One at a HamFest
in Indy, and would like to find another.


              .....|<evin

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From: BRIAN PRINNER                          Number: 212
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 05/31/93  9:09a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM drives for $90               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>--  Ismail Arslangiray was caught relaying secret info to All  --<<

 IA> Mitsumi LU002S / Tandy 1000  CD-ROM Player $90
 IA>
 IA> CD-ROM drive
 IA> Controller Card
 IA> Manual
 IA> Access Software
 IA> Cable
 IA> Audio Cable
 IA>
 IA> ALL SALES ARE FINAL
 IA>
 IA> Currently we have only 67 units left
 IA>
 IA> Shipping: USA Add $5
 IA> Canada  $10
 IA> International: Exact US Postal Rates


    Don't know how many you have left at the time of this message
getting to you, but I might be interested in one.  Send me NetMail to
2210/633 letting me know the cod rates and such.  Thanks a bunch!  Talk
to ya later!

Brian


... 'My God, it's full of stores!' - 2001: a shopping odyssey
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: SAM FERTITTA                           Number: 213
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/01/93  1:07p
Subj: Re: free cd-rom catalogs!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jim,

Can you send me a catalog also?

Thanks..

Sam Fertitta
77 Knickerbocker Rd
Pittsford NY 14534



... Sorry, the Dog ate my Blue Wave packet. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: DON DEMAERE                            Number: 214
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/01/93  8:28p
Subj: Sony CD-ROM drive                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Recently you advertised:

 SP>  I'm selling a Sony CD-ROM with 380ms and 150k/sec
 SP> transfer.This includes all needed cables.I'll throw in
 SP> LOOM too.I want $185(this includes Loom).
 SP> --- FMail 0.94

What model drive is this? If it's the CDU-7205, then I am interested. BTW,
what is LOOM?

Don

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From: BRANDAN UPSON                          Number: 215
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93  5:42a
Subj: cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the following CD's for sale.


        Mega CD-Rom 1                $15.00    650+meg shareware.
                                               Includes door program to
                                               run it with.

        Ultima VI and Wing commander $25.00   Both on same CD.

        Great Cities of the World part II.  $25.00

If interested in any of these titles, post me back. Also willing to
trade.

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From: BRANDAN UPSON                          Number: 216
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93  5:43a
Subj: Hard drive                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am wanting to trade anyone a brand new 170MB Hard drive for an
internal CD Rom drive. If interested, post back or call [phone].

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From: BRIAN KECK                             Number: 217
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/01/93  8:01p
Subj: Sony CD-ROM drive                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SP> I'm selling a Sony CD-ROM with 380ms and 150k/sec transfer.This includes
al
  >needed cables.I'll throw in LOOM too.I want $185(this includes Loom).


What MODEL number?? and int or ext???
Brian


 * QMPro 1.02 41-6221 * ######### <- Scratch Here For Your Instant Tagline
Priz


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From: SCOTT MCMILLAN @ 913/8                 Number: 218
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93  5:12p
Subj: Large Qty prices                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sole Source Systems
8248 #B Ronson Road
San Diego, CA 92111
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
BBS: 619-467-0666

                                        June 1, 1993

             Special Reseller Large Quantity Pricing

Quantity ten (10) or greater required on each item for these
special prices, unless otherwise stated.  Minimum order must exceed
$500, prepaid only - NO COD's, FOB San Diego California.

501 Sound Waves                                            $19.00
Asian Ladies (Adult)                                       $20.00
Composer Quest                                             $26.00
Darwin - Origin of the Species (3 minimum)                 $39.00
Daytime Express (5 Minimum)                                $16.00
Giffy Gold (Adult - Amatuer)                               $18.00
Libris Britanica                                           $22.00
Marketing Master (Minimum 5)                               $15.00
MegaRom 1 (Shareware)                                      $12.00
Moving Fantasies (Adult)                                   $16.00
National Parks (Minimum 5)                                 $31.00
National Trade Databank - March '93 - 2 disc (Minimum 3)   $25.00
Phone Disk USA (3 Disk Set - Spring '93)                  $105.00
Power Talk (How to make big bucks in the 90's)             $23.00
Pro Phone '92 (3 disk set)                                 $35.00
Romware Magazine '92 - Collector's Item                     $7.00
Shareware Studio                                           $12.00
Simtel 20 - January '92                                     $5.50
So Much Shareware II (5 Minimum)                           $16.00
Space Quest IV                                             $14.00
Time Compact Almanac 1990                                   $6.50
Too Many Type Fonts                                         $7.50
U.S. History                                               $21.00
VGA Spectrum II                                            $16.00
Visual Fantasies (Adult)                                   $16.00
Willy Beamish                                              $14.00
Women of Venus                                             $16.00
Languages of the World - Limited Quantity                  $35.00

Caddies

We have the standard sony type caddies - all japanese construction,
which is better - yet more expensive than the american product.
For resellers, we have the following prices:

Japanese "Sony" type caddies
Qty 100+ $4.00 each
Qty 300+ $3.80 each

We also have the new swiss designed and manufactured "TriCaddy",
this revolutionary new product has no moving parts.  It is
completely made of plastic and it is designed with the User who
stores his CD's in their caddies permanently.  The user can remove
his jewel case insert and place it in the front of the Caddy.

Swiss "TriCaddy" type caddies
Qty 50+  $4.00 each
Qty 100+ $3.65 each
Call for large Qty price!

These prices are good through June 21, 1993.  After that, the
prices return to normal.  Any order which does not meet the
quantity requirements described above will be charged the normal
reseller price.

     I look forward to hearing from you!

                    Scott A. McMillan
                    General Manager

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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 219
  To: BRIAN PUNTNEY                            Date: 06/01/93 11:23a
Subj: CDs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I have So Much Shareware 2 for $15.  It has a good collection of stuff
 > for everyone.  Has FILES.BBS in every directory, for easy setup on a
 > BBS.  It is used, but in excellent condition.

   If your offer for the above is still available I will send you $17.90 to
cover cost and 2 day air shipping (US Postal MO Prepaid). All I will require
is an address.  Thanx...  Marlina
Marlina Maloney - Voice: (716)-895-5549 til 1 AM
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 220
  To: ROGER COLLINS                            Date: 06/02/93 12:28p
Subj: Adult ROMs Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I agree about used S/W in general, *IF* the original owner hasn't registered
the S/W. If he has, then I'm not certain it would be legal to re-sell it
unless the registration was transferrable. CDs don't (usually) have
registration per se other than to build the customer list for the
distributor. At any rate, I agree: end of thread.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 221
  To: BOB BROCK                                Date: 06/02/93 12:33p
Subj: Re: Adult ROMs Wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Not wanting them does not equate to them being damaged or out-of-date like a
magazine (which by the way tend to *INCREASE* in value with age - try buying
a first edition of Playboy - or of Busty Babes for that matter). Since
there's presently no realtively easy way to preview CDs (shareware or image
types), purchasers are left with few options to recoup some of their costs.
Selling so-called used CDs at a discounted price, even in perfect condition,
seems reasonable to me. Being asked to sell them at "garage sale" prices is
unreasonable IMHO.  Anyway -- end of thread.

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From: ROGER COLLINS                          Number: 222
  To: NANCY PORTER                             Date: 06/01/93  9:20p
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> TB> I am getting a few more used internal Hitachi 3500's.  I will  be
-> TB>  offering them for $130 each. Controller cards are $60  that  wil
-> TB>  run up to 4 of these drives.  4 of these drives are available fo
-> TB>  $600 with controller card, case and cables  to  connect  to  you
->
-> Wait a moment.  130
->                 x 4
->                 ---
->                 520
->                 +60
->                 ---
->                 580
->
-> And YOU are selling them for $600?  Such a deal! <Sigh!>

I believe that means you are getting a case for the above for only
20.00, which is a deal.

Of course, you *can* get the Pioneer unit for just a little more, which
is a *better* deal, if you need 6 drives.


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From: LAWRENCE MINTZ                         Number: 223
  To: NANCY PORTER                             Date: 06/01/93 11:51p
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > TB> I am getting a few more used internal Hitachi 3500's.  I will  be
 > TB>  offering them for $130 each. Controller cards are $60  that  will
 > TB>  run up to 4 of these drives.  4 of these drives are available for
 > TB>  $600 with controller card, case and cables  to  connect  to  your

 > Wait a moment.  130
 >                 x 4
 >                 ---
 >                 520
 >                 +60
 >                 ---
 >                 580

 > And YOU are selling them for $600?  Such a deal!
 > <Sigh!>

You obviously overlooked the fact that the $130 price is for bare drives
while the $600 price is for 4 drives, CASE and controller.  Where does the
price of the cabinet and cables appear in YOUR little calculation.

Larry

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 224
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 06/01/93  8:05p
Subj: Cd-rom catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PJ>Are you selling Share Ware Studio 2?
  >If so, how much?

Sorry, we haven't received it yet.  It will probably be on the next list
I get from my supplier.

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 225
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/01/93  8:14p
Subj: BBS CD-ROM Disc                         Refer: NONE
Read: 06/04/93  9:04a                       Private: No

TH>Please *don't* respond to "send me a catalog" messages - just send um a
  >catalog and be done with it.  Telling your customers that it's on the
  >way accomplishes nothing, as the catalog should arrive b4 your message.

Sure thing, Tim.  That makes sense. <G>

                                                        Jim...

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From: JAMES BOWMAN                           Number: 226
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/02/93 12:08a
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send a catalog to:
        James Bowman
        1776 Liberty Lane, Apt A-1
        Blacksburg, Va. 24060
Adult titles also!!
Thanks!!

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From: BRIAN HIPPS                            Number: 227
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93 12:55p
Subj: Cd' for kids - cfk's                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Help me please!! It's summer break from school again and I'll be babysitting
my 2nd and 4th graders at home. I need some educational cd's to keep their
little minds occupied till August 30. Any suggestions on what I should get?
They seem to bore easily if it's percieved as traditional education <g>. Any
info would be appreciated from venders, dealers, or those experienced with
kids of this age. Helllllllppppppppppp.


=== WinQwk 2.0b#0


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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 228
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 06/01/93 11:27p
Subj: CDROM Retailer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GH> If you would like a catalog of over 400 CDROM titles, including
GH> Must call each month (or leave message via here, or my BBS) to

Please send catalog to:

Chris Snyder
RR 4 Box 306
West Frankfort, IL 62896

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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 229
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/01/93 11:27p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Willy Beamish                                             $54
>Willy Beamish (OEM)                                       $22

What is OEM?

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 230
  To: DOUG BURDEN                              Date: 06/01/93  8:31a
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOGS!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Please include my in your catalog list.

 > Doug Burden
 > box 1163
 > Angus, Ontario
 > Canada L0M 1B0

You posted this to the wrong person. I am not distributing these but did ask
for one.

Chris

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From: CRAIG MOSER                            Number: 231
  To: WALT LANE                                Date: 06/01/93 11:03p
Subj: RE-Re: FRAUD!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WL> Walt Lane - Sysop: The File Shop BBS

Hey Walt....thought I saw your name here! The ISO Mac CD is coming along!
WIll keep you and all interested here abreast of its availability!

Craig :)

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 232
  To: JOHN DECARLO                             Date: 06/02/93  6:35a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JD>On <May 29 08:47>, Terry Woodward (1:369/14) wrote:

JD> TW >I have the following Cd's for trade.
JD> TW >Smutware
JD> TW >My private collection,volume 2
JD> TW >Adult reference library
JD> TW >PC-Pix, volume 2

JD>I have FAO I and am tired of it.  Interested in trading?

Sorry, I got rid of FAO a long time ago. What else you got?

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Help! I'm parked diagonally in a parallel universe


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 233
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 06/02/93  6:36a
Subj: Re: Adult cd's to swap                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KP>  Well I have Volcano (ADULT) and VGA Spectrum for trade, If interested,
Jus
KP>leave me a Note...

I'm interested in the Volcano. What's VGA Spectrum?

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Love is grand.  Divorce, twenty grand.


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 234
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 06/02/93  6:41a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RD> >PC-Pix, volume 2
RD>I have Giffy Gold, I am interested in any of the above for a straight
across
RD>trade. But first tell me, what is the Adult reference library? I don't
think
RD>want this one, but would like to know what it is.

ARL is just another Adult Gif disk. It has more 800x660 pics than some
others. I've sort of got it reserved for Bob Jackson.
I'd like to get your Giffy Gold. I'll be delighted to send you
the PC-Pix, volume 2. Leave me an address or go ahead and send the Giffy
Gold disk. My address is:
Terry Woodward
2649 Marathon Lane
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33312

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Do Quarter Horses have only one leg????


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 235
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/02/93  7:01a
Subj: CDrom Statistics                        Refer: NONE
Read: 06/04/93  9:05a                       Private: No

TH>There's a new CD ROM magazine that covers info like this - info that
TH>goes beyond the concerns of the end user... It's called CD-ROM Today and
TH>is published by GP Publications...

Thanks, Tim. I'll call them today.

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Hors d'oeuvres--a ham sandwich cut into forty pieces.


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 236
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/02/93  7:04a
Subj: Re: Texel DM-3024                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>If your going to hook the Texel to the Pro, then you'll need the sound
BO>kit, which we have in stock and it's priced at $25. This gives you the
BO>cable, manual, drivers for the Pas and another scsi cable as well.

Boris,
Does this cable allow external drives to be connected to the PAS?

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Men have become tools of their tools. Thoreau


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 237
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/02/93  7:05a
Subj: Sony CD-ROM drive                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SP> I'm selling a Sony CD-ROM with 380ms and 150k/sec transfer.This includes
al
SP>needed cables.I'll throw in LOOM too.I want $185(this includes Loom).

What model? Scsi? Internal/external?

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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 238
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 06/01/93  9:05p
Subj: SHAREWARE STUDIO VOL. 2                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> There is a guy selling that same CD for ONLY $22.95... can you beat
-> that?
   Hi Paul!
       Yep, I can beat it!  Where did you see the ad, and which
distributor had it?  Just give me a call at 306-789-4654, and I'll set
you up with a copy!

   -=* .\\ichellea *=-
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From: MIKE MORGAN                            Number: 239
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 06/02/93  8:37a
Subj: I am looking...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 VS> I am looking for a cdrom that has clipart that I could use with my word
 VS> processors and dtp programs


I just got the softwarevault cd collection, among other things it has several
megs of clip art and several different programs to manipulate graphics with.
A friend of mine here puts out a advertisement flyer for commercial purposes
and swears by it.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 240
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 05/31/93  8:35a
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


JR>     I just discovered a really great feature of this drive.  I'm
 JR> going     to have to read the manual more often.  I  just  stick
 JR> my     favorite audio disk in the drive  and  run  CDPLAY  which
 JR> came on  the          installation  disk  and  I've  got  music.

  No flame intended... but even my used Hitachi  3500's  will  play
  music and they are only $130 each.

 JR> put it in my startup     file.  I can then go  about  any  other
 JR> task on the machine with music     in the background.    I  have
 JR> not  noticed  any  conflict  with  other          programs  yet,

  You must not run DesQview.   If  you  try  to  use  cdplay  under
  DesQview you will get jumping and skipping and it  won't  work...
  but if you find the small program called "Playback" it will  work
  under DV.

 JR> doing this.  BTW it does require unplugging  the  speakers  from
 JR> the Soundblaster and plugging into the drive,  but  if  this  is
 JR> really     problem free I may buy  a  second  set  of  speakers.

  You should get a SB pro and hook up the  drive  internally.   All
  you need is a couple of wires you can find in any old VCR.   Hook
  up the right and left channel and the ground will go through  the
  motherboard.  You can then control the volume, mute  etc  through
  the keyboard.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 241
  To: DAVE HITT                                Date: 05/31/93  8:42a
Subj: Some Disk Recommendations               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


DH> listing of what's on the two disks.  My only complaint is that
 DH> too much of disk one is devoted to software and utitlties for
 DH> various BBSs.

 I agree.  The author should have separated the bbs stuff so that
 sysops could put that disc in the drawer and the onther one in
 the cd drive for the users.

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 242
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93  1:07p
Subj: CD-ROM Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


Toshiba XM-3201 SCSI CD-ROMS Drives.

External Unit:

Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
power supply and cable.  Include two Centronics 50 connectors mounted to
rear of the enclosure for I/O and passthru cabling.  Easy access to SCSI
ID DIP Switches to change addressing.  True SCSI. 350ms Access. 150k
transfer rate.  External headphone jack and volume control.

$230.00

Internal Unit:

Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM bare drive.  DIP Switches for SCSI ID Setting.
True SCSI, 350ms Access, 150k transfer rate.  External headphone jack and
volume control.

$200.00

205-837-5053
leave message if not home, it WILL be returned.

Michael Konor
AMIGA_CDROM Co.Moderator




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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 243
  To: JOHN TRIMBACK                            Date: 06/02/93 10:35p
Subj: Sony CD-ROM drive                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JT> scott i can offer you 1 - 4meg sim and 4- 256K sims for
 JT> this drive? leave mail...later!

 JT> --- Star-Net v1.02
 JT>  * Origin: Phila. Amiga Users' Group BBS 215-551-1485/6113
 JT> (1:273/912.0)
.
  Sorry...I have pleny of RAM for the moment.If you are interested in paying
for it...let me know.
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From: PAULA COE                              Number: 244
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/03/93  1:40a
Subj: Re: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jim,
I would like a copy of your catalog as well. Thanks in advance.

Paula Coe
142 Crossbow Dr.
Pikeville, NC 27863-9600

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 245
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93  8:02a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Drive, Danvers, MA 01923-3453
>Phone: [phone] - Mastercard & Visa accepted!!!!
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>CD's
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>CD-ROM caddies                                             $5
>American Business Phone Book                              $23
>Anim. Fant. 1 or 2                                        $30
>The Animals                                               $28
>Battle Chess                                              $22
>Bible library                                             $26
>Bibles & Religion                                         $13
>Britannica Select                                         $39
>Busty Babes                                               $30
>Carmen San Diego                                          $27
>CD Game Pack II                                           $26
>Chessmaster 3000                                          $27
>Clipart Goliath                                           $13
>Colossal Cookbook                                         $13
>Complete Bookshop                                         $13
>Compton Interactive Encyclopedia                         $103
>Dictionaries & Languages                                  $13
>Ecstasy                                                   $30
>Erotic Encounters                                         $30
>Gigabyte Gold                                             $31
>Groliers STW Encyclopedia (windows, or 5.0 M/M)           $53
>Hot Pix (2, 3, or 4)                                      $36
>Hot Stuff 1                                               $18
>Hot Stuff 2                                               $25
>Inspector Gadget                                          $45
>KGB-CIA Factbook                                          $31
>King's Quest 5                                            $23
>Kodak Photo CD                                            $33
>Loom                                                      $30
>Lovely Ladies II                                          $31
>Mayo Clinic                                               $97
>Microsoft Works                                           $99
>Microsoft Bookshelf                                       $65
>Mixed Up Mother Goose                                     $23
>Moving Fantasies                                          $31
>MPC Wizard                                                $14
>National Geographic Mammals                               $26
>National Parks                                            $31
>Night Owl (7 or 8)                                        $26
>OS/2 Hobbes                                               $16
>Our Solar System                                          $13
>PC Sig 11                                                 $26
>PC Sig Games                                              $16
>PC Pix (1, 2, or 3)                                       $31
>Physical Therapy                                          $16
>Pro Phone 1992                                            $33
>Pro Phone 1993                                           $107
>Publishit 2.0 (DOS)                                       $28
>Rimfire Pacific                                           $34
>Seventh Heaven                                            $31
>Seventh Guest                                             $67
>Sherlock Cons 1                                           $28
>Smutware                                                  $26
>So Much Stareware                                         $27
>Soundworks                                                $19
>Storm (I, II, or III)                                     $31
>Street Atlas USA                                          $97
>Shareware Extravaganza                                    $39
>Shareware Studio                                          $28
>Technotools                                               $13
>Too Many Typefonts                                        $13
>US Atlas w/ Automap                                       $26
>VGA Spectrum 1                                            $13
>Willy Beamish                                             $54
>Willy Beamish (OEM)                                       $22
>Windows 1993                                              $22
>Wing Commander 2/Ult. Underground                         $60
>Wing Commander 2/OPS                                      $60
>Women In Motion                                           $31
>x11R5/GNU                                                 $22
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>Prices/specifications subject to change without notice.
>Cash discount 2.5%, COD-$5 extra, requires $15 deposit.

===
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 246
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93  8:02a
Subj: Cd-rom drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Drive, Danvers, MA 01923-3453
>Phone: [phone] - Mastercard & Visa accepted!!!!
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>CD-Rom drives                                           Price
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>>Texel 265ms SCSI internal                               $374
>>Texel 265ms SCSI external                               $457
>>Texel internal bundle                                   $605
>>Texel external bundle                                   $697
>>Texel internal Multimedia bundle                        $923
>>Texel external Multimedia bundle                      $1,036
>>Chinon external                                         $459
>>Chinon internal                                         $338
>>Magnavox CDD-461RS                                      $395
>Mitsumi internal CD-ROM                                  $193
>Mitsumi external CD-ROM                                  $285
>>Magnavox CM-205XRS, internal                            $361
>NEC MultiSpin 38 portable                                $417
>NEC MultiSpin 84 internal                                $534
>NEC MultiSpin 74 external                                $595
>Tandy CDR-1000 CD-ROM w/ card                            $150
>Toshiba XM3401 200ms internal                            $472
>Toshiba XM3401E 200ms external                           $577
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>Prices/specifications subject to change without notice.
>Cash discount 2.5%, COD-$5 extra, requires $15 deposit.

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From: EDWARD DELGROSSO                       Number: 247
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 05/26/93 11:01p
Subj: New catalog is done!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <May 25 19:53>, Paul Janel of 1:2613/220 writes:

 PJ> Could you send me a catalog?

     I think you replied to the wrong person..... I don't sell CD's ONLY buy
them.....

Ed

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 248
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 06/02/93  4:45p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BT>what do you want in trade???????????????????

Adult cdroms.

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Being a writer is like always having homework -Jane
Adam


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 249
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 06/02/93  9:41p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I have Giffy Gold,

I have Physical Therapy, volume 3, an almost exact duplicate of XXX Extreme
that I would trade for the above.  I  bought this one at comdex, and did not
realize it duplicated extreme, so it is in perfect condition.  Interested?

 * MKRead v1.01 * Shell to Dos...Come in Dos...Do you copy?


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 250
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/02/93  4:48p
Subj: Cd-rom catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi, could you send me a catalog of CDs? I'm in the market for ShareWare CDs,
and BBS stuff, like Inexpensive cd-rom drives. And i would also like to add a
comment about catalogs.... Could you put AS much info about the CDs as
possible (like how many megs, FILES.BBS descriptions, type of directorys....
ect.)

Right now im looking for ShareWare Studio 2 (it looks the best to me, and the
creator wrote ALOT of info about it)

Please send it to:
Paul Janel
280 curtis road
Hilton NY 14468
Thank you very much!


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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 251
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 05/31/93  5:34p
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >    in the background.  I have not noticed any conflict with other
  >    programs yet, it must not even be using the CPU because I can't

 yeah. it's a small tsr.  just don't use DESQVIEW with it, and you'll
continue to enjoy it.  Desqview is the only prog I know of that locks it
up! even when it is executed before running it.

        Tim Klan
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From: MIKE WALKER                            Number: 252
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/02/93  1:00a
Subj: Cd-rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Could I please get a copy of you catalog

Mike Walker
5642 Leesway Blvd
Pensacola, Florida.
           32504-7726

Thanks
P.S. Adult titles also thanks !

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From: VINCENT TESTA                          Number: 253
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93 12:47p
Subj: night owl??                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi'ya All ...

Has anyone heard of night owl 9 ?? or if and when it's coming out??

Thanks..


Ciao, Vincent

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From: JIM MCEWEN                             Number: 254
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/01/93  8:50p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you send to Canada, I would like a Catalog.....

Please send to

                   James D. McEwen
                   30 Hatcher Road
                   Winnipeg Manitoba
                   R2C 3V8
                   Canada
                                     Thanks......


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From: JIM MCEWEN                             Number: 255
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/01/93  9:01p
Subj: Free cd-rom catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jim....
     I hope this message gets to you...
Can you send a Catalog to Canada...?
If you do.....
               Please send two (if that's O.K.) to....

                 James D. McEwen
                 30 Hatcher Road
                 Winnipeg Manitoba
                 R2C 3V8
                 Canada
With thanks...............................Jim


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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 256
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/02/93  6:42a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy Jim,

 JL> Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
 JL> Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, and we'd be

Kirk Rawnsley
5128 Grove Hill Road SW
Calgary Alberta
T3E 4G6

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 257
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/02/93  6:45a
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy Dave,

31 May 93, Dave Reed writes to All:

 DR>  ****      CD-ROM International * [phone] (Order Line)
 DR> **** ****                   [phone] (BBS/Fax)


   Bibles & Religion ........... 12.00
   Reference Library ........... 24.00
   Source CD-ROM ............... 17.00

Care to list exactly what is on these titles?


          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: TIMOTHY C. NOVAK                       Number: 258
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/02/93  3:12a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi drive audio                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ> memory while they're active. Likely, if you'd route the CD's audio
outputs
BJ> your sound board's inputs, you wouldn't have to disconnect the speakers
to
BJ> take advantage of this capability.

How do you do this?  I have a Sound Blaster (original) and have tried to
connect my Cd's outputs to the Sound Blaster's inputs and I didn't get
anything out of it.  Is there something "special" that I missed?

Thanks,

Timothy

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From: KURT ANNO                              Number: 259
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93  5:24p
Subj: Used CD-Rom                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a good used CD-Rom or a cheap new one.

Kurt Anno


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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 260
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/02/93 11:00p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL> Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer

Send to:

Chris Snyder
RR 4 Box 306
West Frankfort, IL 62896

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 261
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 06/02/93  6:28p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den In               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <05-31-93 11:14> Bubba Therrien wrote:

BT>> hi lee, did you get the disks i sent you?

Got them, Thanks a million--Busty Babes is going backon the market in July as
an "R" rated disk--Major facelift ! They will be on there !

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 262
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 06/02/93  6:31p
Subj: Re: I am looking...                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <05-31-93 23:21> Vito Servideo wrote:
VS>> I am looking for a cdrom that has clipart that I could use with my
VS>> word
VS>> processors and dtp programs

Encyclopedia of ClipArt--Ask an dealer in the echo. Its all PCX and no
garbage--Mnaual for this will be released in the summer that gives you
pictures of all the 11,000 clips.

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 263
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/04/93 10:22p
Subj: CD Stats                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Atlanta Computer Currents (Jay Communications, Inc.) recently did a fax
poll on CD ROM... They didn't state the sample size, but I assume it's
sufficient.  Anyhow:

How many titles do you own?
---------------------------
0-2   35%
2-4   18%
4-8   29%
8 +   16%

What do you use CD ROM for?
---------------------------
Entertainment  24%
Multimedia     24%
Education      23%
Other          10%
Shareware       9%

How much money invested in CD's?
--------------------------------
$  0 - $ 250  57%
$250 - $ 500  28%
$500 - $ 750   6%
$750 - $1200   2%
$1200 +        4%

How much did you pay for your player?
-------------------------------------
$  0 - $ 350  27%
$350 - $ 600  62%
$600 - $ 850   6%
$850 - $1100   2%

Where did you buy your player?
------------------------------
Mail Order  41%
Retailer    31%
Superstore  19%
VAR          4%
Mass Merc.   2%

Do you plan on upgrading?
-------------------------
No  65%
Yes 35%

If upgrading, why?
------------------
Faster drive  40%
Other         28%
Multimedia    20%
Interface      5%
Kodak Comp.    5%

93% of the people who don't own players did say that they plan on using
CD ROM in the future... And from my experience, 10%-15% of everyday BBS
users own a CD ROM player.

tim
moderator
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From: JIM REED                               Number: 264
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 06/01/93  4:23p
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PJ>Where did you get this drive, and how much did you pay? Thanks!

Hi Paul;
        I paid $169 and got it from a systems integrator that I deal
        with through my work.  Not sure what the street price is but it
        shouldn't be much different.
                                /JIM/

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From: JIM REED                               Number: 265
  To: JOSEPH THOMAS                            Date: 06/02/93  3:21p
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JT> JR>      in doing this.  BTW it does require unplugging the speakers from
JT> JR>      the Soundblaster and plugging into the drive, but if this is
reall
JT> JR>      problem free I may buy a second set of speakers.
JT> JR>                                 /JIM/
JT>                  Are you saying, just pluging speaker to the
JT>         controller card, we can play cd ? Jim, pl. give us more
JT>         Tnx.

Hi Joseph;
        My drive (Internal) has a headset jack on the front.  I unplug
        the speakers from the SB and plug them into the front of the
        drive itself.  The speakers are very inexpensive KOSS powered
        stero speakers.  I don't remember how much I paid for them but
        think it was around $40.  I set the speaker volume control about
        mid range and use the volume control on the front of the drive.
        The PLAYCD utility has a full set of standard playback controls
        i.e. stop, pause, play, back-a-track, fwd-a-track, and a few
        others.  Only conflict I have run into so far is that when I
        start an upload it turns off the music, real strange since when
        I download it remains playing.  That's about everything I know
        about it.  There is a small section in the manual that describes
        it but then who reads manuals.
                                /JIM/

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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 266
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93  1:06a
Subj: Hitachi CDROM drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi all!  I need to know if rumors I have heard are true.

1) 1 Hitachi CDROM proprietary controller handles 4 Hitachi Drives

2) You can have 4 Hitachi controllers in the same machine giving you 16
CDROM drives.......

James
 ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Captain I believe thats the sound of a phaser on overload


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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 267
  To: JOSEPH THOMAS                            Date: 06/03/93  1:09a
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JT> JR>      in doing this.  BTW it does require unplugging the speakers from
JT> JR>      the Soundblaster and plugging into the drive, but if this is
reall
JT> JR>      problem free I may buy a second set of speakers.
JT> JR>                                 /JIM/
JT>                  Are you saying, just pluging speaker to the
JT>         controller card, we can play cd ? Jim, pl. give us more


If you plug the audio cords from the Mitsumi into the MIC in port on the
soundblaster and set the soundblaster /LINE:12 you can here a CD normal
through the SB speakers.

james
 ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ --T-A+G-L-I+N-E--+M-E-A+S-U-R+I-N-G+--G-A+U-G-E--


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 268
  To: SAM FERTITTA                             Date: 06/02/93  5:49a
Subj: Looking for cd's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SF>Now that I have finally gotten a CDRom, I am quite anxious to get some
used
  >CD's. SOme for dad, some for the kids. The kids would like Sherlock Holmes
2
  >3, Mammals, Karyndia(?), Dinosaurs, or any others that might come to mind.
F
  >dad, well, any xxxx-rated cd's out there?

I'd be glad to send you a catalog if you would post your address or give
me a call at Computer Works.  Thanks!

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS (cdrom.zip)

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From: CRAIG LARSEN                           Number: 269
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93 12:17a
Subj: Multimedia Kits *CHEAP*                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                             Multimedia Kits


  Kit A

  Mitsumi 005S  CD-ROM  320ms w/ interface card.
  1 CD   (Lynx, Jet Fighter, Bernstein Bears, Faces (Tetris))  --->  $219

  Kit B

  Kit A plus:
  Aztech NX-PRO Sound Galaxy Soundboard w/speakers             --->  $295

  Kit C

  Kit B plus 4 additional CD's:

 Compton Multimedia Encylopedia for Windows,
 Dictionary of the Living world,
 KGB/CIA world Fact Book
 Grammy Awards (Trivial Pursuit type game w/ music)            --->  $375



        Prices Include Shipping and reflect a 2% cash discount.


Call 1-800-473-8330  (voice 24 hours)  Leave a message w/your voice #.

Payment terms:

Visa and Mastercard
Money Order                      No C.O.D.'s
Cashier's Check
Personal Check (will proccess order after it clears)

                                    Larsen Consulting and Sales
                                    7017 N. Litchfield Rd.  Suite 309
                                    Glendale, AZ   85307

Quantity Discounts Available !

















































































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From: CRAIG LARSEN                           Number: 270
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93 12:18a
Subj: DoubleSpeed CD-ROM Bundle               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                                Multimedia Kit


   * Talon Internal CD ROM Drive
      --- Made by Texel  This is the same drive NEC uses for their 84J Model
      --- Photo CD Compatible
      --- 64k Buffer
      --- Multispin
      --- 280ms CD ROM
      --- 300k Transfer Rate

   * SoundBlaster Pro Compatible Board

   * Amplified Stereo Speaker Set

   * Headphones

   * Installation Guide

   * CD ROM Titles included:

      Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
      Software Jukebox
      Guinness Disc of Records
      The Animals
      National Parks Guide
      Sherlock Holmes
      Mayo Clinic Health Guide


                       All for $649 Including Shipping !

                      First Three Customers get $10 off !


Call 1-800-473-8330  (voice 24 hours)  Leave a message w/your voice #.

Payment terms:

Visa and Mastercard
Money Order                      No C.O.D.'s
Cashier's Check
Personal Check (will proccess order after it clears)

                                    Larsen Consulting and Sales
                                    7017 N. Litchfield Rd.  Suite 309
                                    Glendale, AZ   85307

Quantity Discounts Available !

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From: BILL HUFF                              Number: 271
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/01/93  5:43p
Subj: CD Systems                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris,
        I'm interested in an NEC CDR-74.  Do you have one?  How much?
        Bill
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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 272
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93  9:23p
Subj: Multimedia                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To whom it may concern-or know for that matter-I am new to the world of
cd-roms and was wondering if anyone could explain what are the
differences in cd\roms.  for instence what is multi-media?  Or mpc?
What is the difference between __ms access time and transfer rates?
I want to buy a rom but don't know what i need.  I am looking for one
that will handle games and music but don't want to spent four diget
figures.  is the mitsumi that i have been seeing for $175-195 any good?
Thanks a million,

Michael Hansen

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 273
  To: NANCY PORTER                             Date: 06/02/93  8:53p
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <31 May 93  10:07:00>, Nancy Porter (1:105/18) writes:

 >TB>  $600 with controller card, case and cables  to  connect  to  your
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 >
 >Wait a moment.  130
 >                x 4
 >                ---
 >                520
 >                +60
 >                ---
 >                580
 >
 >And YOU are selling them for $600?  Such a deal! <Sigh!>
You think the case/power supply and cables are free?? I would love to have
and  external case/power supply and cable set for $20, it is a good deal.

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 274
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/02/93  9:10p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Disks                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <01 Jun 93  03:07:00>, Boris Osadciw (1:157/46) writes:

I just saw Lee's message about Busty Babes II, put me down for one of your
first copies of this. (I know it will be about mid July before I see it, but
 put me down anyways).

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From: CAROLE JOHNSON                         Number: 275
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/03/93  2:00a
Subj: Cd-rom drives & bundles..               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > The Animals                                               $28
 > Compton Interactive Encyclopedia                         $103
 > National Geographic Mammals                               $26
 >  * RM 1.0 00391 * Open Mouth.  Insert Foot.  Echo
 > Internationally.

Thanks for the prices....I've now decided to wait until I can check out the
MS Encarta.


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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 276
  To: BRIAN KECK                               Date: 06/03/93 12:02p
Subj: Sony CD-ROM drive                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BK> SP> I'm selling a Sony CD-ROM with 380ms and 150k/sec transfer.This
 BK> includes al
 BK> >needed cables.I'll throw in LOOM too.I want $185(this includes Loom).


 BK> What MODEL number?? and int or ext???
 BK> Brian


 BK>  * QMPro 1.02 41-6221 * ######### <- Scratch Here For Your
 BK> Instant Tagline Priz


 BK> --- WM v2.09/91-0246
 BK>  * Origin: BOGGY CREEK COMPUTER GRAPHICS, 407-348-2006(BBS)
 BK> (1:3633/2)
 BK> 116/2000

   It is internal and it is a CDU535.
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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 277
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 06/03/93 12:03p
Subj: Sony CD-ROM drive                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DD> Recently you advertised:

 DD> SP>  I'm selling a Sony CD-ROM with 380ms and 150k/sec
 DD> SP> transfer.This includes all needed cables.I'll throw in
 DD> SP> LOOM too.I want $185(this includes Loom).
 DD> SP> --- FMail 0.94

 DD> What model drive is this? If it's the CDU-7205, then I am
 DD> interested. BTW, what is LOOM?

 DD> Don

 DD> --- Maximus 2.01wb
 DD>  * Origin: Twilight Zone BBS - Ft. McMurray, AB
 DD> [phone] (1:3402/15)

   It is a CDU535 and Loom is a cool MPC game.
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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 278
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/03/93 12:04p
Subj: Sony CD-ROM drive                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TW> SP> I'm selling a Sony CD-ROM with 380ms and 150k/sec transfer.This
 TW> includes al
 TW> SP>needed cables.I'll throw in LOOM too.I want $185(this includes Loom).

 TW> What model? Scsi? Internal/external?

 TW>  * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Microbiology Lab:  Staph Only!


 TW> --- WM v2.09/91-0241
 TW>  * Origin: The Library BBS, Ft. Lauderdale, Fl 305-581-4983
 TW> (1:369/14)

   It is a CDU535 and it is not SCSI.It is internal.
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From: KAWAI WONG                             Number: 279
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/03/93  1:02p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM CATALOGS                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Jim,
      Can you put me on your CD-ROM mailing list?
      My address is:
                       Kawai Wong
                       305 Slayton Drive
                       Madison, TN 37115

... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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From: JOHN DECARLO                           Number: 280
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 06/03/93  6:42a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On <May 31 22:20>, Ryan Denke (1:303/5.104) wrote:

 RD >In a message of <30 May 93  18:47:55>, John DeCarlo (1:109/131)
 RD >writes:
 >>I have FAO I and am tired of it.  Interested in trading?
 RD >If he isn't, I'm tired of Giffy Gold, wanna trade?

Yup.

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From: LESTER CHEVEALLIER                     Number: 281
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/03/93  2:48p
Subj: Special                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm interested in the Asian Ladies CD.  Tell me more about it.

                             Les


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From: ANDREW MURPHY                          Number: 282
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93  9:30p
Subj: FAO Gold                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,
   Well, like most people, I hate to admit I am not perfect, but... It
so happens I am not.  A while back I entered a few messages warning
people away from the FAO gold disk.  Well, this was based on my pouring
over the disk with Cshow not properly configured.  Somwhere back there I
lost some files, and reinstalled and...  The bottom line is, I
recently pulled it out to show someone who said it sounded good what it
was like. (I have long since fixed the Cshow problem, but never
connected it with my disk scanning) Well, I was happily suprised to
find that it was much better than I thought. I feel kind of silly
admitting this, but I may have shied a few of you away from a good disk
because of my own stupidity. If any of you were considering getting it,
do it. It is a good disk with NO BBS Adds. The images are very sharp
for the most part. I wish I had known. Of course it was a nice suprise,
almost like finding a brand new disk! It has moved the FAO disk up
alongside the other profit press disks quality wise.  I am very pleased
with all of them.

To the people at profit press, I am sorry to have influenced anyone into
thinking it wasn't a top notch disk.

Murf!


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From: WAYNE STRICKLAND                       Number: 283
  To: DENNY VANDEMAELE                         Date: 06/03/93  1:04a
Subj: Re: MSCDEX PROBLEM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Go in to either your autoexec/config file and change your MSCDEX and
exchange the sbpro\drv to DOS\MSCDEX and safe and then reboot.
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From: BEN BYRD                               Number: 284
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/01/93  9:54p
Subj: Catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I need catalogs.  If you have a catalog I repsent a big amount of
money(Not Mine).  But I do help make decisions for this place and if you
want to be involded in these choises.  Please send me your catalog.

Ben Byrd
17116 26th Ave. S.E.
Bothell, Wa. 98012-6508

Thanks Ben Byrd.

 * SLMR 2.1a * Nanosecond, used to measure a womans attention span.


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 285
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/02/93  8:06p
Subj: ASIAN LADIES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Terry!

Monday May 31 1993, Terry Woodward writes to Dave Reed:


 DR>> Call Ismail Arslangiray of GroupWare... he's in pretty tight with the
 DR>> publis of Asian Ladies.  He knows EXACTLY who they are and where
they're
 DR>> at.  Ismai number is [phone] or [phone].

 TW> Thanks, Dave. I have to decide if I want to go to all of the time,
 TW> trouble, and expense to get lawyers involved. Several of the gifs that
 TW> they used are my scans from my (copyrighted) photos.

I would encourage you to pursue whatever legal remedy you can... they are an
UNethical bunch who are ruining this industry.  They are one of the BIG
reasons that I no longer sell adult titles.  I prefer to stick with reputable
publishers who don't screw their dealers.  ;-)


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 286
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93  7:48a
Subj: Super CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Super CD is one of the best collection of Shareware, Public Domain and
Freeware prgrams and files. You can directly order from us or you can request
from your dealers.

Super CD Vol. I $25
Super CD Vol II $25
Set $40

Competative Upgrade: If you have any other shareware disk you get $10
discount.

VISA/MC/American Express/Discover/COD/Check/MO

GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX

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From: FRANK SERENO                           Number: 287
  To: ALL DEALERS!!!                           Date: 06/01/93  6:24p
Subj: Want catalogs!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

This is an open note to all of the folk that sell CD-roms that I am very
interested in receiving your catalogs and mailings, including listing of
adult CD's.  Rather than posting this to several different people, I hope
that all of you will read my message and note my address:

                        Frank Sereno
                        528 West Avenue
                        Morris, Il 60450-1768

Thank you!  :-)

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From: ANDREW HART                            Number: 288
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/02/93  8:29p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send a copy of your catalogue to

        Andrew Hart,
        28, Chimo Drive,
        Kanata,
        Ontario,
        Canada,        K2L 1A5.

Thanks

Al

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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 289
  To: CHARLES HELD                             Date: 06/02/93  5:25a
Subj: Oxford english dictionary               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CH>JC>JH>I'm looking for the Oxford English Dictionary. Does anyone know who
CH>JC>JH>has the best price? The suggested retail price for the two-disk set
CH>JC>JH>$895.

CH>JC>The OED II at about $895 U.S. is one disc. There was an earlier two-di
CH>JC>DOS version (only the original OED, none of them OED II updates). If y
CH>JC>are going to spend that kind of money, make sure you are getting the O
CH>JC>II. Cheers!

CH>It is expensive at $895, but the CD is about 1/3 the cost of the bound
versi
CH>(and a whole lot easier to search!)  Of course, if word origins and
language
CH>history are your thing, the OED is IT.  But don't drop $895 on it if you
jus
CH>want to have "the biggest dictionary on your block".

Thanks, Charles. I agree. I was fortunate enough to "play" with a review
copy for about a month. Cheers!
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From: JEAN-GUY PARE                          Number: 290
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/02/93  9:28a
Subj: Re: NEW GAMES DISK                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Allo Boris,
->
-> I don't think so Jean !! We jsut installed 2 more new modems ( ZyXel's )
and
-> we had a few bugs to work out. I think everything is OK now, since much of
-> the system seems to be running just fine now.

    I'll try again when I receive my new CD,

           Jean-Guy
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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 291
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 06/03/93  2:23p
Subj: Shareware studio vol. 2                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sorry, but i am a wise shopper.
The guys name is: Gary Glueckert
And i think that he is in this echo (you know, you should look around before
you make a high price). He is repersenting (or thats what it says in the
message):
                    Timely Ventures
                    516-420-2680
                    or
                    516-277-3853
If you want to, you may refer to MSS# 15485 (i have the message right in
front of me) BTW- can you give me your better price? P.S. do you have a
catalog you could send me (i'm going to open a bbs soon and i'm looking for
cd-roms, ShareWare CDs.. ect.) If so, please send it to: Paul Janel 280
curtis road Hilton NY 14468 Thank you!


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 292
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 06/03/93  2:40p
Subj: 7th guest trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi, what is 7TH Guest?
Is it a shareWare cd?
Thank in advance!


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From: DONALD JONES                           Number: 293
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/03/93 11:16a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        I would like to get a catalog.  My address is:

                407 Porter Dr
                Roseville, CA 95678

                        Thanx,
                        Donald Jones


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From: RON RICHMOND                           Number: 294
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/03/93 12:18a
Subj: Cd rom drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Boris, I want to say thanks for the CD Rom drive. It arrived in good shape
8 days after I ordered. Not bad for U.S.A. and Canada Post offices. I was
very impressed with the way Texel ( & you) packaged everything to protect
it.I'm listening to a Neal Young CD on the drive, as I type this. How much
would it cost for the cable to connect the back of the CD Rom drive to my
Sound Blaster Pro card ? That is the only thing I missed with the kit.The CD
Rom drive was pretty much Plug and play. The sound card had a lot of
conflicts with my system. Works now though.   Thanks,       Ron.
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From: ED BAILEY                              Number: 295
  To: CLIFF ESHOM                              Date: 06/02/93  8:15a
Subj: Mitsumi's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CE=> what to buy without actually testing them first.
 CE=> Will trade PC-Sig 10 for what have you....???
Thanks for the offer of the trade but I have enough of the older files on
CD's.
Ed


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From: NILL TOULME                            Number: 296
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/02/93  8:44a
Subj: Re: CD SYSTEMS SPECIAL                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Quoting Boris Osadciw's message of 06-01-93 to All, in pertinent part:

 BO> Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $14.0
                               ^^^^^^^^^^

Is that really v1?  I think the current version is 1.5.


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 297
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 06/03/93  1:05p
Subj: 4 EXTERNAL CD DRIVES $600               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 4 used Hitachi  internal  3500  drives  with  an  external  case,
  controller  card,  cables,  caddies,  screws,  drivers,  30   day
  warranty,  INCLUDING shipping in the US via  US  mail  AND  c.o.d
  charges   ...   ONLY     $600    total.      Call    205-824-2552

  Power supplies are available for $25,
  External cable is available for $30,
  2 nd day shipping is available for $25.
  Cream  of  the  Crop  Shareware  with  this   package   for   $25
  ...and/or other popular cd titles.

  This special  ends  July  1st  or  whenever  supplies  are  gone.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 298
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 06/03/93  8:26p
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 [overheard]

 MW> >Wait a moment.  130
 MW> >                x 4
 MW> >                ---
 MW> >                520
 MW> >                +60
 MW> >                ---
 MW> >                580
 MW> >
 MW> >And YOU are selling them  for  $600?    Such  a  deal!  <Sigh!>
 MW> You think the case/power supply and cables are  free??  I  would
 MW> love to have and  external case/power supply and cable  set  for
 MW> $20, it is a good deal.

  If you can find a better deal then buy it.  You are overlooking a
  few things...  first, a cable 3 1/2  foot  long  would  cost  you
  about $20 to make yourself, second what is  the  best  price  you
  have seen on a 4 bay external case?   ...I  know  they  can't  be
  found for under $40.  Third, what do you think is  the  shipping/
  cod cost of such a package?   Even 4 th class mail  runs  between
  $20 and $30 depending on the distance.  I also include 4 Y  power
  splitters   that   go   for   about   $3   from   most   sources.

  Now let's include those overlooked expenses:

  580   is where you stopped

  $40   4  bay  case             (excluding   shipping   and   cod)
  $25  Shipping and cod  (averaged out)
  $20  3 ft cable with 4  connectors    (excluding 1  hr  to  make)
  $10  Y power splitters (rounded off)

  Total :  $675

  Looks like a $75 discount from my chair. :)   See...  I'm a  nice
  guy after all!

  I can't include a custom made external cable that cost me $30  to
  make, and a $25 power supply for  $20  on  top  of  that  already
  discounted deal... and still make a profit. I  know  that  it  is
  possible to get all the business a person would want  by  selling
  dollar bills for 90 cents...  however  let's  remember  the  idea
  behind doing business is to make a profit.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 299
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/03/93  8:48p
Subj: Hitachi CDROM drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


JP> Hi all!  I need to  know  if  rumors  I  have  heard  are  true.
 JP>
 JP> 1) 1 Hitachi CDROM  proprietary  controller  handles  4  Hitachi
 JP> Drives
 JP> 2) You can have 4 Hitachi controllers in the same machine giving
 JP> you 16 CDROM drives.......

  Actually, the TDC-IF8 cd rom proprietary  controller  cards  will
  handle 8 Hitachi drives each provided the model is 3600 or  3700,
  and you can put 8 of these cards  into a  machine  (provided  you
  have enough slots  <G>)   making a  total  of  64  cdrom  drives.


  People like Chuck Beezeele are running 20 on a server,  and  Tony
  Davis has 16 in his system.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 300
  To: KURT ANNO                                Date: 06/03/93  8:54p
Subj: Used CD-Rom                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


KA> I am looking for  a  good  used  CD-Rom  or  a  cheap  new  one.

  I have a few used Hitachi internal 3500 drives for $130  and  new
  interface cards for $60.  Shipping and c.o.d. are $15 via US mail
  or $20 for second day FedX.  Call 205-824-2552 and get the latest
  and greatest "Cream of the Crop" shareware cd with  it  for  only
  $20.

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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 301
  To: KURT ANNO                                Date: 06/04/93 10:47a
Subj: Used CD-Rom                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Kurt Anno said:
 KA> I am looking for a good used CD-Rom or a cheap new one.

 KA> Kurt Anno


 KA> --- Maximus 2.01wb
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  I'm selling my Sony CDU535.It has 380ms and 150k/sec.I have all the needed
cables and drivers.It also comes with LOOM.My price is $185 obo.Trades will
be considered.
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From: WALT LANE                              Number: 302
  To: CRAIG MOSER                              Date: 06/03/93  9:22p
Subj: MAC CDROM                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CM=>WL> Walt Lane - Sysop: The File Shop BBS

CM=>Hey Walt....thought I saw your name here! The ISO Mac CD is
CM=>coming along! WIll keep you and all interested here abreast
CM=>of its availability!

CM=>Craig :)

CM=>--- Tabby 3.0
CM=> * Origin: South Florida's Mac Connection - [phone]
CM=>(1:369/114)

Hey, whats up guy?  Yes, this is much better than me calling you at work!
<grin>

Anyway, do you think you all will be able to make it to ONE BBS Con?

I will be manning the Remote Access Profession booth.

Hope to see you there!

Walt Lane - Sysop: The File Shop BBS

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From: DANG NGUYEN                            Number: 303
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/02/93  7:46a
Subj: Cd-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
  >Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, and we'd be
  >glad to get one right out to you.  Thanks!

JL>                                                        Jim...
  >Computer Works
  >CD-Rom Sales!
  >[phone] Voice
  >[phone] BBS

I would like a catalog

Dang
12851 Sungrove
Garden Grove
CA 92640
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From: NANCY PORTER                           Number: 304
  To: ROGER COLLINS                            Date: 06/03/93  8:51a
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RC> Of course, you *can* get the Pioneer unit for just a little more, which
RC> is a *better* deal, if you need 6 drives.

Yes, I would tend to agree! <g>
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From: NANCY PORTER                           Number: 305
  To: LAWRENCE MINTZ                           Date: 06/03/93  8:52a
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LM> You obviously overlooked the fact that the $130 price is for bare
LM> drives while the $600 price is for 4 drives, CASE and controller.
LM> Where does the price of the cabinet and cables appear in YOUR little
LM> calculation.

You're right, I guess I did overlook the case part.  The controller
card was included in my calculation! <g>
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From: TOM PAULK                              Number: 306
  To: PIERRE PROULX                            Date: 06/03/93  9:58p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I would like to get a copy of your CD-ROM catalogue.  Am interested in
adult titles also.
Send to:
Tom Paulk
2359 Millbrae Dr.
Henderson, NV 89014

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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 307
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 06/02/93  2:22p
Subj: OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BT>hello jim,  are you the same jim clements on the Tampa Bay area local
BT>cable access shows????? if so call me at 813-934-3307 this is the bbs
BT>number in tampa...  i have a friend of yours that is on this bbs..
BT>give us a call ok?  see ya


Sorry, Bubba, not the same Jim Clements. The only thing I've done in the
Tampa area was get run over by a car -- and stay in the Hillsborough
University-Community Hospital for a month. All I can say about that is
it got me out of buying Christmas presents in 1988.

If you ever do come across the "other" Jim Clements, please say hello
for me. Cheers!
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From: DOUG BURDEN                            Number: 308
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93  8:10a
Subj: ADULT TITLES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am planning on getting some more adult titles. I liked Physical
Therapy but I am a bit let down by private pictures. Could I get users
or dealers opinions on these title please.

Storm series
PC Pix
Porkware
Hot news
Bangkok
Erotic cafe
Moving fantasies
the women of venus
Erotic encounters
Smutware

Last but not least, what is Rimfire Pacific?

This may or may not belong in this eho but I posted here as this seems
to be where the most knowledge about CD's is.

Thanks
Doug Burden
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 309
  To: CD-ROM MANUFACTURERS                     Date: 06/03/93  5:36p
Subj: HANDY UTILITIES                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

For folks who were wondering where to get these:

(1) SORTDESC v 2.3 - create file listings based on FILE_ID.DIZ within
archives and captured text files, then SORT the files into directories
based on that description. Many options, including ensuring the file
names comply to the ISO9660 standards.

(2) GCD v 1.0 - an economical and simple interface for your CD-ROM.
Works with *ANY* format ASCII file lists, including Wildcat, RA, and
PCBoard style listings. Your file listings will be scrollable,
with tagging, copying and viewing options.

Contact:  Vince Sorensen @ 306-789-4654 Voice or 306-789-8682 BBS.
                                                 306-359-3335 FAX.
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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 310
  To: PAUL O'SULLIVAN                          Date: 06/03/93  1:29p
Subj: CD-ROMS FROM WITHIN I                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Paul:

In a msg of <Friday May 28 1993>, Paul O'sullivan writes to BOB JACKSON:

 BJ>> Since a standard audio CD can only hold about 60-65 minutes of music,

 PO> Actually 74 minutes.

     Are you sure?  I just picked up the Jethro Tull 25th Anniversary Boxed
set, and I would swear one of the disks is in the high side of the seventies.

     Yep.  Just slipped disk four in and it's 77:45.  I think I have a few
others of similar length, as well.




Tyler A. Wunder

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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 311
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/03/93 12:56p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Jim:

In a msg of <Monday May 31 1993>, Jim Lambert writes to All:

 JL> Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
 JL> Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, and we'd be
 JL> glad to get one right out to you.  Thanks!

     Not sure if I've sent you a request, but here's another one for good
measure.

     Tyler Wunder
     28 Huntingdale Pl.
     Kitchener, ON
     N2A 3K6

     Thanks.



Tyler A. Wunder

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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 312
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/03/93 12:57p
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Dave:

In a msg of <Monday May 31 1993>, Dave Reed writes to All:

 DR>  Bibles & Religion ........... 12.00

     Hi Dave.  This one looks interesting.  What more can you tell me about
it?




Tyler A. Wunder

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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 313
  To: CHARLES HELD                             Date: 06/03/93 12:59p
Subj: Oxford english dictionary               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Charles:

In a msg of <Sunday May 30 1993>, Charles Held writes to Jim Clements:

 CH> It is expensive at $895, but the CD is about 1/3 the cost of the bound
 CH> version (and a whole lot easier to search!)

     Only partially true.  While the cd rom version is no doubt easier to
use, I paid $250 American for a Compact (note:  compact is not abridged, and
does in fact have all the information of the twenty volume set -- I simply
need a reading glass to read the text, but for a savings of $600, I'll put up
with a small inconvenience) OED.

     Of course, $895 is better than buying the 20 volume set, but the compact
version still beats the hell out of the cd.




Tyler A. Wunder

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 314
  To: BRIAN HIPPS                              Date: 06/03/93 12:07p
Subj: Cd' for kids - cfk's                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BH> babysitting my 2nd and 4th graders at home. I need some educatio
 BH> to keep their little minds occupied till August 30. Any suggesti


I highly recommend Mixed Up Mother Goose for this age group.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 315
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/03/93 12:10p
Subj:  Florida Lion's Den In                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LN> Got them, Thanks a million--Busty Babes is going backon the mark
 LN> July as an "R" rated disk--Major facelift ! They will be on ther


Lee - could 'ya gimme a call [phone] or somehow get me your voice
phone number? If you use netmail, the sysop here will forward.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 316
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/03/93 12:14p
Subj:  I am looking...                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LN> Encyclopedia of ClipArt--Ask an dealer in the echo. Its all PCX
 LN> garbage--Mnaual for this will be released in the summer that giv
 LN> pictures of all the 11,000 clips.


Lee - is this your CD?
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 317
  To: TIMOTHY C. NOVAK                         Date: 06/03/93 12:02p
Subj:  Mitsumi drive audio                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TC> connect my Cd's outputs to the Sound Blaster's inputs and I didn
 TC> anything out of it.  Is there something "special" that I missed?


Dunno- I'm not a "sound board" person. Perhaps one of the echo's SB
aficionados can help here.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 318
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 06/03/93  7:01p
Subj: Re: I am looking...                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    I am looking for a cdrom that has clipart that I could use
>>    with my word processors and dtp programs


>>    sincerely

Vito, we have several of them as well as the NEW "Encyc Of Clipart", which
is a bbs ready cd. If your interested, please feel free to give us a call
at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 319
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/04/93  1:51a
Subj: Special                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Monster Disk - $35.  Shareware Extravag - $45.   CD PowerBox      - $20.
Pier 1       - $29.  SoundWaV           - $25.   Shareware Online - $29.
Asian Ladies - $35.  Adult Ref Library  - $35.   All ChestNuts    - $14.
Hobbs OS/2   - $25.  Windows 1993       - $25.   Night Owl 8      - $29.
Groilers Ency DOS / Windows Version - $50.00ec   Night Owl 7      - $19.
Gameware     - $30.  Canadian Shareware - $15.   IBM Sampler      - $ 7.
  Mitsumi Int (350ms) - $195. Nec36M - Complete Ext SCSI System $269.
        Pioneer DM600 - Bare Drive - $799.     DM604X - $1199.
 ORDERS ONLY - 800-243-0517 For Tech or Product Info Call - 216-225-3263
      (((((((((((   Call Us - You'll Be Glad You Did   ))))))))))))))


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 320
  To: GARY FRICKE                              Date: 06/04/93  1:51a
Subj: Re: CD Systems                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Boris a couple friends of mine are interested in cd-roms disks
>>    and hardware... They would like catalouges...
>>    Greg Meeker

>>    Mike Mullikin

Our new catalogue and special discounted flyer should be available soon.

We'll make sure your friends get a copy as well as yourself.

Thank You....

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 321
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/04/93  1:52a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********* E N C Y C L O P E D I A   O F  C L I P A R T *********
  500+ Megs Pf Pure DTP Power - BBS Ready - Over 11,000 Files
    NO DUPS - Over 30 MEGS Color Art - Plus True Type Fonts
                     Most Files - 92' - 93'
                        Price - $29.00

     This should be the HOTTEST Clipart CD of the year !!
Call 800-243-0517 or for technical information call 216-225-3263
anytime 23.5hrs a day 7 days a week and we'll be glad to assist you.

Boris Osadciw

... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BOB WYATT                              Number: 322
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/03/93  9:21p
Subj: CD Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Would appreciate your latest catalog.
Forward to Bob Wyatt, 114 Whispering Pines Drive,Waveland,MS 39576



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From: CHRIS BARRETT                          Number: 323
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 06/02/93 10:37a
Subj: CD-ROMs WANTED!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Would a Pilips CM-100 for $150, including shipping in original box
 > work for you--includes card and cable.  Less than one year of use--
 > spend most of its life in storage as excess equipment.  Call me at
 > 719-495-0495, if interested.

    No thank you, but thanks for the offer!

                                            Chris

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From: CHRIS BARRETT                          Number: 324
  To: STEVE LEU                                Date: 06/02/93 10:41a
Subj: CD-ROMs WANTED!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Chris, I have 4 Hitachi drives that run off of one controller, so
 > they are single propriety.  They do, however, have caddies.  (it really
 > speeds up the drives!)  I am willing to sell them for along with a
 > 4-bay case for $650 + shipping.  Let me know.

    What is the access times?
    Do you have any CDs you can throw in with them (prefer something for the
BBS)?
    Total cost with S&H to Canada?

    Right now, I am swaying more to the Pioneer, as I can get them with a
total of 6 drives (you know what I mean) for $799.99 US + Interface card.

                                                        Chris

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From: ROBERT RAWLINGS                        Number: 325
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/01/93 10:28a
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jim...Please add my system to your mailing list...Thanks.

Bud's Hell Hole
10515 Midvale Ave North #6
Seattle, WA 98133

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From: DAN WAGNER                             Number: 326
  To: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                        Date: 06/01/93  3:08p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST.                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Jerry,
I saw your message asking for help in the 7th guest. Since your near the
end I think you can help my friend, he says hes stuck by a secret room
before the microscope puzzle and he has to solve some puzzles with
stones in the floor (I hope thats descriptive enough), also he cant
figure out the microscope puzzle with the viruses. Can you help?

Regards
Dan Wagner
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From: GREGORY YERXA                          Number: 327
  To: BRIAN PUNTNEY                            Date: 06/02/93 10:44p
Subj: CDs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    Sure sounds like I might me interested give me a call at
(414)-735-9315 or give me your number and I will call you.

GReg


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From: GREGORY YERXA                          Number: 328
  To: SCOTT ELMORE                             Date: 06/02/93 10:45p
Subj: Cds                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    What is the Phoenix one?


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 329
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/04/93 10:36a
Subj: CD-ROM Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


Toshiba XM-3201 Series SCSI CD-ROMS Drives.

External Unit:

Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
power supply and cable.  Include two Centronics 50 connectors mounted to
rear of the enclosure for I/O and passthru cabling.  Easy access to SCSI
ID Switches.  True SCSI. 350ms Access. 150k transfer rate. External
headphone jack and volume control.  Powersupply accepts 90-240 Volts AC.

$225.00

Internal Unit:

Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM bare drive.  DIP Switches for SCSI ID Setting.
True SCSI, 350ms Access, 150k transfer rate.  External headphone jack and
volume control.

$200.00

60 day defect warranty included.


205-837-5053
leave message if not home, it WILL be returned.

Michael Konor
AMIGA_CDROM Co.Moderator




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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 330
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/03/93  4:52p
Subj: Then, could you send me s               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

@SUBJECT:Then, could you send me some BBS stuff?                     N Hi!
its me, could you send me some BBS stuff catalogs (like ShareWare CDs)?


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From: JIM OXFORD                             Number: 331
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/04/93 11:45a
Subj: Re: Hitachi CDROM drive                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Hi all!  I need to know if rumors I have heard are true.
 >
 > 1) 1 Hitachi CDROM proprietary controller
 > handles 4 Hitachi Drives
 >
   That is true, some controlers will handle 8 drives, but you have to
have the drives that will let you select 8 of them.


 > 2) You can have 4 Hitachi controllers in the
 > same machine giving you 16
 > CDROM drives.......
 >
   That is also true, I have run 4 banks of 4 Hitachi 3500's in one
computer.
   I currently run 6 Hitachi's and 2 Pioneer 6 paks, making a total of 18
cdroms in one machine.

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From: VERNON MELTON                          Number: 332
  To: BRANDAN UPSON                            Date: 06/03/93 11:51a
Subj: Re: cd's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                    -=> Quoting Brandan Upson to All <=-

 BU> Ultima VI and Wing commander $25.00   Both on same CD.
Brandan,
    I will offer one Languages of the World CD in trade for the Wing
Commander CD-ROM.  It has dictionary's and can translate the following
languages:
          English
          French
          German
          Italian
          Spanish
          Dutch
          Japanese (Both major versions of Japanese with pictures
                   of the correct character)
          Chinese  (I think it's Mandarin with pictures of the
                   correct character)
          Norwegian
          Danish
          Finnish
          Swedish                                     (146 k)
It can be used as a stand alone reference or run as a large TSR with your
favorite editor.  I am proposing a even trade.  Thank you.
Later,
      Vernon Melton

... The Earth is 98% full.  Please DELETE anyone you can.
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 333
  To: BRANDAN UPSON                            Date: 06/03/93  7:58a
Subj: cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I have the following CD's for sale.


 >         Mega CD-Rom 1                $15.00    650+meg
 > shareware.
 >                                                Includes door
 > program to
 >                                                run it with.

 >         Ultima VI and Wing commander $25.00   Both on same CD.

 >         Great Cities of the World part II.  $25.00

Interested in trading the Mega CD-Rom 1 for Pheonix 2?

Chris

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 334
  To: KURT ANNO                                Date: 06/03/93  7:59a
Subj: Used CD-Rom                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I am looking for a good used CD-Rom or a cheap new one.

I have Pheonix 2 or O'Conner & Associates Shareware available for $15 each +
postage.

Chris

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From: DAVID GEVING                           Number: 335
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/04/93  9:30a
Subj: Catalog Request                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Jim,

Please send be your catalog(s).  My address is:

David Geving
311 Vista Del Escuela
El Cajon, CA 92019

Thanks!

PS - No response needed.

... With a Blue Wave of my hand I cleared away the SLMR!
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 336
  To: BRIAN HIPPS                              Date: 06/03/93  8:02p
Subj: Re: Cd' for kids - cfk's                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Help me please!! It's summer break from school again and I'll be
> babysitting my 2nd and 4th graders at home. I need some educational cd's
> to keep their little minds occupied till August 30. Any suggestions on
> what I should get? They seem to bore easily if it's percieved as
Arthur's Teacher Trouble
Beauty and Beast
Peter & Wolf
Mario is missing

We have all in stock and they are good titles for kids. TTYL

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 337
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 06/03/93  7:19p
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Kirk!

Wednesday June 02 1993, Kirk Rawnsley writes to Dave Reed:

 KR>    Bibles & Religion ........... 12.00

Sold out.  Sorry.

 KR>    Reference Library ........... 24.00

Dictionary of Quotable Definitions
Webster's New World Dictionary
Guide to Concise Writing
The New York Public Library Desk Reference
Dictionary of 20th Century History
Webster's New World Thesaurus
The National Directory (Businesses)
JK Lasser's Legal and Corporation Forms for the Small Business

 KR>    Source CD-ROM ............... 17.00

Source code for C, Pascal, Basic, etc.

 KR> Care to list exactly what is on these titles?

See above.   ;-)

Dave Reed
CD-ROM International
[phone]

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From: DON HOWE                               Number: 338
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/04/93 11:07a
Subj: CD-ROM Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jim:

I am interested in receiving your catalog....

My address is Don Howe
              2268 Nelson Drive
              Niskayuna, NY 12309

Thank you very much!

Don

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From: JOSEPH MACK                            Number: 339
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/04/93  1:29p
Subj: CD ROM CATALOGS WANTED                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WANTED: CD ROM catalogs. As a reseller of multimedia machines, we get a
tremendous call for varied titles of CD's, and naturally are always looking
for the best prices. Anything goes on CD, from Educational (Mixed Up Mother
Goose) to The Smuttiest Adult CD's around.
Please send your catalogs ASAP to:
Computer Services of New York
133 So. Brandywine Ave. Suite #8
Schenectady, NY 12307
Please mark them attn: Joseph Mack
Thanks for your consideration.
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From: RANDY JOHNSON                          Number: 340
  To: JOE VENTURELLI                           Date: 06/03/93  9:02p
Subj: Seedy Rom Volume 6 DIR's                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Joe, by talking about the Seedy Rom movie disk, I assume that you
are also the publisher of the Seedy Rom 6-pack. I was just testing a
cd-rom catalog program (CDPRO), and noticed that disc 6 had two
directories in the DIRS directory that weren't on the disk. They were
TARGA and BMP_PCX.  Was this an error?

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 341
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/04/93  4:57p
Subj: Message                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike:

Thanks for the phone conversation the other day re: Porkware. I never did
get the message you said you sent. On the other hand, I read this echo from
two different BBSes and they never seem to have exactly the same new
messages in them, so maybe your message went into some electronic gazooland.
Gimme a shout if you ever recover to the point where we can proceed. Cheers!

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 342
  To: DOUG BURDEN                              Date: 06/04/93 12:28p
Subj: ADULT TITLES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DB> Storm series
 DB> PC Pix
 DB> Porkware
 DB> Hot news
 DB> Bangkok
 DB> Erotic cafe
 DB> Moving fantasies
 DB> the women of venus
 DB> Erotic encounters
 DB> Smutware


Personal opinion of a collector with 30+ titles:

Storm III is the best of that series
PC Pix series is pretty good but becoming dated
Porkware is rumored to be a re-hash of images from other CDs
Hot News/Bangkok/Erotic Cafe - no data
Moving Fantasies is so-so
Women of Venus isn't "adult" at all
Erotic Encounters is fair/good
Smutware - no data

You left out the Seedy ROM series, the FAO series, and the Hot Pix
series. All are superior to those you listed, IMHO, but in varying
degrees.

If you're looking for just 1 or 2 more, Busty Babes and Ecstasy are
*HIGHLY* recommended.

Hope this helps.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 343
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 06/04/93 12:36p
Subj: FAO Gold                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 AM> To the people at profit press, I am sorry to have influenced any
 AM> thinking it wasn't a top notch disk.
 AM>
 AM> Murf!


Kudos to you, Murf, for 'fessin up! I like FAO Gold, too. Now if we
could just get everyone else in the adult CD biz to be as forthright....
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From: ROBERT DU GAUE                         Number: 344
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 06/03/93  8:57a
Subj: RE: CD-Rom Changer ?                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 KP>Can anyone tell me where I can get a CD-Rom Changer ?  I think thats
 KP>basically what they are, You can place about 6-8 CD's in it, and access
 KP>them all at any given time ??  Any help would be helpful, I seen One at a
 KP>HamFest in Indy, and would like to find another.

I got a Pioneer 6-disk DRM-600 from Dirt Cheap Drives in Computer
Shopper for $829.

It's the slower model, but for a BBS I don't think it makes a big
difference, since the software (which I wrote) uses HD catalogs and
stages all xfers to an HD/RAM parition.

The 604x model is very fast, and runs around $1100-$1200. Pioneer
is also coming out with a model inbetween the 600 and 604 that
does 350k xfers per sec, more inline with regular CDs.  They
also have an 18 disk version in the works, that will be around $2500
or so.


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From: CAMERON SLYE                           Number: 345
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/03/93  5:15p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 MB> I have Physical Therapy, volume 3, an almost exact duplicate of XXX
 MB> Extreme that I would trade for the above.  I  bought this one at
 MB> comdex, and did not realize it duplicated extreme, so it is in perfect
 MB> condition.  Interested?
If you were to seel it, how much?

... You don't buy beer. You rent it for a while.
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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 346
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/03/93  7:03a
Subj: ADD SIZE                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Yes Patrick, your adds come across readable now..

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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 347
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 06/04/93  2:59p
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Oh, could you get me the same deal?


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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 348
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93  7:38p
Subj: Catalogs Requested                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    Dealers:
         Please include me on all your lists including adult.  The
information you need includes:
    Joe Rinehart
    5400 Lakewood Road
    Ravenna, Ohio 44266-9565
    [phone] voice
    216) 296-4446 (GIGO) data

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From: STEVE LEU                              Number: 349
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93  3:28p
Subj: Always Tech IN2000 SCSI C               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*@SUBJECT:Always Tech IN2000 SCSI Controller                          N
For Sale:

1)      Always Techlogy IN-2000 SCSI Controller
        Handles 7 SCSI Devices / 2 Floppy Drives
        Operates under DOS, Novell, OS/2, Unix, Xenix
        Comes complete with all manuals and drivers

                $175 or best offer
              (shipping can be negotiated)


Interested: Call me at [phone] or 527-4521
            or e-mail me at [e-mail] (Internet)
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From: JAMES PIPER                            Number: 350
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93  5:55p
Subj: Multi Media Kits                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

***********************************************************
*  CD ROM Multimedia bundles                              *
*                                                         *
*  1   Mitsumi CD ROM Drive (350 ms - 32KB Buffer)        *
*  1   ATI Stereo FX Sound Card with Mitsumi Controller   *
*  1   Set of KOSS Amplified Speakers                     *
*  1   Standard Bundle                                    *
*      - Multi-media Groliers Encyclopedia                *
*      - US/World Atlas                                   *
*      - Reference Library                                *
***********************************************************
*  Package with Software        $550.00                   *
*                                                         *
*  Package without Software     $425.00                   *
*                                                         *
*  Call and get yours today!                              *
***********************************************************
* Computer Wares, Inc. * P.O. Box #818 * Paris, IL 61944  *
* Ask for James Piper [phone] * FAX [phone] *
***********************************************************

 * OLX 2.2 * Mail your ideas written on the back of a $20 bill to...
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From: KEITH RITCHIE                          Number: 351
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 06/04/93  9:44p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanx Arnie for the information. The drive itself is labeled April 1993 upon
closer inspection. One thing I did discover that the order of channels and
ground on the Mitsumi is opposite from the SB Pro board.You would figure they
would at least give you a cable with the drive that is SB compatible.
Thanks Again, Keith

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From: KEITH RITCHIE                          Number: 352
  To: TIMOTHY C. NOVAK                         Date: 06/04/93 10:03p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi drive audio                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Tim, You need to cut and resolder the 4 wires at one end of the cable. If you
look in SB manual you will see that the CD IN connector order is
Ground-left-Ground-right channel. The mitsumi's CD out is
Right-Ground-Left-Ground (Reversed). Why Mitsumi did this is beyond reason.
Somebody could probably make a few bucks by selling audio cables with this
configuration since there are so many Mitsumis and SB out there. You know
this is the case if you hook up the cable as-is and try and listen to an
audio CD thru the headphones-NO SOUND. I clipped and resolder mine and it
works like a
champ.
                                       Keith

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From: ANDY YEE                               Number: 353
  To: DANG NGUYEN                              Date: 06/04/93 10:33p
Subj: Cd-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I would like a catalog


Andy Yee
6305 51st Ponoka
Alberta Canada
T4j 1E4

Thanks

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From: ANDY YEE                               Number: 354
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/04/93 10:37p
Subj: CDROM DISTRIBUTORS WA                   Refer: NONE
Read: 06/06/93  8:14a                       Private: No

out that adult disk HOw much are you selling it for?

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From: ANDY YEE                               Number: 355
  To: JOHN DECARLO                             Date: 06/04/93 10:37p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

intersted in selling Fao?

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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 356
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93  4:54a
Subj: Need Catolog                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send me a CD'ROM disk Catolog.
Ken Matthews
5415 Thirds st.
Verona Pa 15147
                   Thanks...

... Glad To Be Here..
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From: LEWIS BULLARD                          Number: 357
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/04/93  2:56p
Subj: FOR SALE                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



Need to sell my system for fall tuition. PB Legend 920 (486sx), 4meg ram
onboard vga, PB vga monitor, 124 meg IDE Seagate, 2400 baud modem, bus mouse,
Magnovox CDD 461 cd-rom and cd audio player with  set of aiwa speakers with
amps, Logitech 32 grayscale hand scanner with interface card, dual disk
drives,
will include 6 cdrom disks with purchase at asked price of $1300. Great setup
for DTP. Lewis 405-357-5942 in the pm or echo back.

... Double your harddrive space -- delete Windows!!!!
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From: JIM DELESKIE                           Number: 358
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 06/04/93  5:54a
Subj: CDROM Retailer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GH>Like many people here, I am also a CDROM retailer.

GH>If you would like a catalog of over 400 CDROM titles, including games,
GH>shareware discs, educational items, Art/Desktop publishers, Business,
GH>Military, Health, and Research/Literature.

I would be intrested in recieving your catalog.

Jim DeLeksie
85 Westgrove Place -21
Halifax, N.S.
B3M 3L7
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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 359
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/04/93  8:23a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Patrick:

In a msg of <Tuesday June 01 1993>, Patrick Rosenheim writes to All:

 >> Bible library                                             $26
 >> Bibles & Religion                                         $13

     What can you tell me about these?




Tyler A. Wunder

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From: DANG NGUYEN                            Number: 360
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/04/93  9:38a
Subj: Supplier                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am interested in pressing a CD and was wondering if you could forward
any info any distrubutors and suppliers.  Any information would really
be appreciated.

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From: DANG NGUYEN                            Number: 361
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/04/93  9:43a
Subj: Cd Distrubutors                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If anyone has some names, numbers, addresses of CD distrubutors or
suppliers, the info would be much appreciated...

Thank you
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From: BILL SCHNELL                           Number: 362
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/04/93  9:28p
Subj: Cd-rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Jim!

Think you might send your catalog this way, too?

Bill Schnell
2427 S. Fulton Pl.
Tulsa, OK 74114

Thanks!             Bill

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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 363
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93  9:01a
Subj: calico computers                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

does any one know the phone # of Calico Computers

thanks

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From: JOHN HUGHES                            Number: 364
  To: JIM CLEMENTS                             Date: 06/01/93  8:45p
Subj: Oxford english dictionary               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JC>JH>I'm looking for the Oxford English Dictionary. Does anyone know who
  >JH>has the best price? The suggested retail price for the two-disk set is
  >JH>$895.


JC>The OED II at about $895 U.S. is one disc. There was an earlier two-disc
  >DOS version (only the original OED, none of them OED II updates). If you
  >are going to spend that kind of money, make sure you are getting the OED
  >II. Cheers!


Thanks for your nice reply, but I didn't send the question.  Puzzling ?

===
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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 365
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93  9:38a
Subj: CD-ROM Changer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does Any one have a good price on a Pioneer 604x Changer With The drivers
Like to install on my BBS.

Thanks

Tom Miller
Swamp Thang BBS
540-347-8152
P.o. Box 1089
Marrero, LA 70073

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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                       Number: 366
  To: NANCY PORTER                             Date: 06/04/93  1:12p
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Nancy!

In a message to Terry Blount <05/31/93> Nancy Porter wrote:

NP> TB> I am getting a few more used internal Hitachi 3500's.  I will  be
NP> TB>  offering them for $130 each. Controller cards are $60  that  will
NP> TB>  run up to 4 of these drives.  4 of these drives are available for
NP> TB>  $600 with controller card, case and cables  to  connect  to  your
NP>
NP> Wait a moment.  130
NP>                 x 4
NP>                 ---
NP>                 520
NP>                 +60
NP>                 ---
NP>                 580
           ========>+20 SHIPPING
NP>
NP> And YOU are selling them for $600?  Such a deal! <Sigh!>

Before you make fun of somebody's message why not take the time
to read AND UNDERSTAND it first.  It went on to say that for $600
it includes a CASE, and CABLES, and SHIPPING.  I have bought 2 of
these in the past from Terry and I highly recommend Terry Blount
to anybody.

For the sysop looking to provide several or alot of CD's online
these systems cannot be beat.

Now I suppose my message is open to attack, retaliation or
whatever from every person who got out of the wrong side of the
bed this morning.
...Jef...

 * WCE 1.10/2020 * Jim he's dead............Get his wallet then Spock!


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From: GREG GRAY                              Number: 367
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/02/93 11:21p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Jim,
    I'd like to receive a CD-Rom Catalog also if you wouldn't mind.
There are 4 guys at work that recently bought computers with CD
drives in them and they don't know where to buy any. Real Bummer,
eh?!  Anyways they are interested in a wide variety including
Adult, so if you could send it to me, I will see that they get
to see it, Thanxs.

Greg Gray
P.O. Box 8721
Rockford, Ill. 61126-8721


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 368
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/04/93  5:11a
Subj: Re: Adult cd's to swap                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 02 Jun 93  06:36:00, I heard Terry Woodward shout to Kevin Plummer:

KP>  Well I have Volcano (ADULT) and VGA Spectrum for trade, If interested,
Jus
TW> KP>leave me a Note...
TW>
TW> I'm interested in the Volcano. What's VGA Spectrum?
TW>

VGA Spectrum is a Shareware disk with a little bit of everything on it,
Everything from .GIF's, to Utilities...

                        ......|<evin

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From: DAVID PATTERSON                        Number: 369
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 05/31/93  6:41p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please include me in your CD-ROM catalog mailing.
My address is as follows:

David Patterson
326 - 201 Abasand Dr.
Fort McMurray, AB
Canada
T9H 1L6

Thanks
Dave P.
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From: DAVID PATTERSON                        Number: 370
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 05/31/93  6:49p
Subj: CD-ROM New Catalog                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send me a copy of your CD ROM catalog to :

David Patterson
326 - 201 Abasand Dr.
Fort McMurray, AB
Canada
T9H 1L6

Thanks
Dave P.
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From: DAVID PATTERSON                        Number: 371
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/02/93  6:36p
Subj: Foreign Language CD's                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Need a source for the following CD's (for resale):

-Berlitz Think and Talk in Spanish - Sony
-First Steps in Spanish - Philips
-also interested in above for Greek & French !

I need a wholesale source or dealer discount on these since they are for
a customer.

Thanks

Dave P.
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 X SLMR 2.0 X ESPER Computer Systems, Ft.McMurray, AB CAN [phone]

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From: MIKE MAST                              Number: 372
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 06/04/93  9:29a
Subj: Toshiba CD-ROM Drives                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM bare drive.  DIP Switches for SCSI ID
 > Setting.
 > True SCSI, 350ms Access, 150k transfer rate.

 > $200.00

Are these new or used?  Warranty?  Work with Trantor controller?

Regards,
Mike
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 373
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 06/03/93 10:29p
Subj: I am looking...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

VS>I am looking for a cdrom that has clipart that I could use with my word
  >processors and dtp programs

Desktop Publisher's Dream Disc would be a nice choice.  It even comes
with a manual showing most of the artwork and fonts.

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 374
  To: BILL HENDERSON                           Date: 06/03/93 10:41p
Subj: 7th Guest Trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

  >>I have a two week old copy of 7th Guest that I just can't get into...what

  >>do you have to trade? Really like to find Bible Library and Bibles and
  >>Religion CD-Roms, but will consider all. Leave me a note.

I would be willing to trade brand new copies of Bible Library and Bibles
& Religion CD's for 7th Guest.  Have you obligated yourself to anyone
else yet?  If not, give me a call at [phone].

                                                        Jim...

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From: JACK BROWN                             Number: 375
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/04/93  2:26p
Subj: Free cd-rom catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JLI am now sending out our new CD-Rom catalog from Computer Works.  Anyone
JLwishing to be added to our mailing list, please leave me a message with
JLyour address.  Specify if you are interested in adult titles.  Thanks!

Please send a catalog, including adult titles, to:  P.O. Box 19825
                                                    Portland OR 97219
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From: JERE WESSELL                           Number: 376
  To: DOUG BURDEN                              Date: 06/05/93  1:09a
Subj: ADULT TITLES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I am planning on getting some more adult titles. I liked Physical
-> Therapy but I am a bit let down by private pictures. Could I get user
-> or dealers opinions on these title please.
->
-> Storm series
-> PC Pix
-> Porkware
-> Hot news
-> Bangkok
-> Erotic cafe
-> Moving fantasies
-> the women of venus
-> Erotic encounters
-> Smutware
->
I have Storm II and was not impressed.  First one i took off line when i
bought some new ones.
PCPIX 2 and 3 are pretty good.  Put together by the Sysops who did the
scans.  We hand picked 110mb each and submitted them for the CD.
Porkware I and II are so-so.  Some duplicates of other disks but pretty
good over all.
Jere Wessell, Sysop Nighthawk Adult Graphics, Las Vegas, NV

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From: JERE WESSELL                           Number: 377
  To: LESTER CHEVEALLIER                       Date: 06/05/93  1:17a
Subj: asian ladies                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I'm interested in the Asian Ladies CD.  Tell me more about it.
->
->                              Les
good overall disk if you like oriental ladies.  Bunch of my older stuff
before i boight the hp scan jet IIc.  Not my best work.  Files.lst are
not quite bbs ready, used xxxk instead of the actual file size and there
was no space for a date colum.  Took a couple of hours to run them thru
SFFiles.exe (used for Spitfire to manage file areas).
there are some mystry files on the disk that have nothing to do with
asian and orientals, (ie blonds and brunettes)
If it cheap by it.
Jere, Sysop Nighthawk Adult Graphics

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From: LEE WINSOR                             Number: 378
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93  5:54p
Subj: 5 star Premium CD-ROMS                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Our hottest selling CD-ROM collection!  Try the rest, then buy the best!

       ****  FIVE STAR PREMIUM WINDOWS CD-ROM - Volume #1  ****

       -  6,000 Windows 3.x files and programs
       -  Thousands of applications and utilities
       -  Fonts for ATM, Postscript, Truetype
       -  Select Few Icons and Wallpaper bitmaps
       -  Source/tools for Actor, C, C++, Toolbook, Visual Basic,
          TPW and others
       -  Predominantly 1992 - 93 files, with hand picked 90-91 files
          (mostly bitmaps and icons which no one cares what the date is)
       -  **BONUS** 950 additional OS/2 library files!
       -  100% PKZ204G zipped with both PCBOARD directory, and Files.bbs
       -  Multi Line Descriptions Average 3.5 lines per entry
       -  Contains both PCBOARD and Files.bbs for the SYSOP


       ****  FIVE STAR PREMIUM DOS Shareware - Volume #2  ****

       - Over 6300 files and programs
       - Organized into 69 different directories including: Music,
         Business, Hobbies, Personal Finance, Text and Word Processing,
         Ham Radio, Cooking, Health and Fitness, Desktop Publishing,
         Database, Games, & thousands of other applications and utils.
       - Large collection of Source/tools for C, C++, Basic, Pascal
       - All files zipped with PKZ204g
       - Contains both PCBOARD and Files.bbs for the SYSOP
       - Multi line descriptions average 4 lines per entry
       - Fully Virus tested less than 1% duplication or older versions
         of programs.
       - NO WINDOWS FILES, they are all on the Windows disk!

*********************************************************************
          Special OFFER! Buy both CD-ROM's for only $69
*********************************************************************
                Available on FIDONET through:

                      The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 [phone]  FAX: [phone]
   VISA          1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M        MASTERCARD
             100's of other fine titles available.
          Buy A Caddie for $2.99 with any Disk Purchase

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 379
  To: DANG NGUYEN                              Date: 06/06/93  8:17a
Subj: Supplier                                Refer: 3800
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> I am interested in pressing a CD and was wondering if you could forwa
-> any info any distrubutors and suppliers.  Any information would reall
-> be appreciated.

If you want to press a CD, call Larry Boden at Nimbus (1-800-782-0778).
He'll tell you exactly what you need to do...

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 380
  To: JERE WESSELL                             Date: 06/06/93  8:24a
Subj: asian ladies                            Refer: 3817
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> -> I'm interested in the Asian Ladies CD.  Tell me more about it.
-> ->
-> ->                              Les
-> good overall disk if you like oriental ladies.  Bunch of my older stu
-> before i boight the hp scan jet IIc.  Not my best work.  Files.lst ar
-> Jere, Sysop Nighthawk Adult Graphics

Are you the publisher/creator of Asian Ladies?

tim
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From: LEE RICH                               Number: 381
  To: KEVIN GODFREY                            Date: 06/02/93 11:26p
Subj: Address for mailer of cd rom catalog    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HI Kevin

My Address
box 334
Royal Oak, MI> 48068

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From: FRANK MALCZEWSKI                       Number: 382
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/93  9:20p
Subj: AMIGA XT Bridgeboard                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Everyone,

Amiga 2088 Bridgeboard with 5 1/4 inch drive. Has the V20 chip for almost a
2X speed increase over the original BB, plus the newest Janus 2.1 software
to work with WB 2.04+. Comes with all manuals and MS DOS 3.3 operating
system, plus a memory expansion card (with 128K). $75

********************************************************************

Call 517-636-2724 days 8AM - 5PM (phone mail after 5PM), or
517-631-4038 evenings/weekends until 11:30PM EST for more
information/shipping arrangements, or post message here.
-=-
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From: FRANK MALCZEWSKI                       Number: 383
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/93  9:20p
Subj: AMIGA A-MAXII Mac Emulatr               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Everyone,

A-Max II Macintosh emulator cartridge, Original MAC 128K ROMS, AMAX II
software (including quick load program) and manuals. $165

********************************************************************

Call 517-636-2724 days 8AM - 5PM (phone mail after 5PM), or
517-631-4038 evenings/weekends until 11:30PM EST for more
information/shipping arrangements, or post message here.
-=-
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From: FRANK MALCZEWSKI                       Number: 384
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/93  9:21p
Subj: Macintosh Powerbook 100                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Everyone,

Macintosh Powerbook 100 notebook for sale. 8 meg of memory, 20 Meg HD, inter
9600 baud FAX (Global Village, not the Mac version)/2400 baud modem, two
batteries, charger, Remote Access software, plus all manuals, System 7 softw
original boxes, etc. $1190

********************************************************************

Call 517-636-2724 days 8AM - 5PM (phone mail after 5PM), or
517-631-4038 evenings/weekends until 11:30PM EST for more
information/shipping arrangements, or post message here.
-=-
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From: FRANK MALCZEWSKI                       Number: 385
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/30/93  9:22p
Subj: HP7475A Plotter                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Everyone,

HP 7475A 6 pen plotter for sale. Factory reconditioned. Excellent shape.
Used only 2 hours since being reconditioned (selling since I bought a HP
LJIII). Includes original manuals, over 25 pens for both paper and
overheads, one carousel and power cord. This is the RS232 interface version.
$350.

********************************************************************

Call 517-636-2724 days 8AM - 5PM (phone mail after 5PM), or
517-631-4038 evenings/weekends until 11:30PM EST for more
information/shipping arrangements, or post message here.
-=-
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From: RICK ASHWORTH                          Number: 386
  To: BILL HENDERSON                           Date: 06/04/93  1:19a
Subj: 7th Guest Trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Hello Bill!

30 May 93, Bill Henderson writes to All:

 BH> I have a two week old copy of 7th Guest that I just can't get
into...what
 BH> do you have to trade? Really like to find Bible Library and Bibles and
 BH> Religion CD-Roms, but will consider all. Leave me a note. -+-
GEcho/beta

I'll swap you a brand new Bible CD (9 bibles, 20 references..) for T7G...

Rick

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From: RICK ASHWORTH                          Number: 387
  To: NANCY PORTER                             Date: 06/04/93  1:21a
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Nancy!

31 May 93, Nancy Porter writes to Terry Blount:


 TB>> I am getting a few more used internal Hitachi 3500's.  I will  be
 TB>> offering them for $130 each. Controller cards are $60  that  will
 TB>> run up to 4 of these drives.  4 of these drives are available for
 TB>> $600 with controller card, case and cables  to  connect  to  your
 TB>>

 NP> Wait a moment.  130
 NP>                 x 4
 NP>                 -+-
 NP>                 520
 NP>                 +60
 NP>                 -+-
 NP>                 580

 NP> And YOU are selling them for $600?  Such a deal! <Sigh!>

And you want the case/cables and labor to install for nothing?  Nice try!

Rick

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From: RICK ASHWORTH                          Number: 388
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/04/93  1:24a
Subj: Florida Lion's Den Inc. CD Complaint!   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Lee!

Answering a msg of <31 May 93>, from Lee Noga to Doug Carpenter:

You came to Comdex and didn't tell me... <pout>

Rick

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From: PHILIP CANTERBURY NORMAN BATES         Number: 389
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93  2:11a
Subj: Catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

I would like to get on the mailing list for all of the cd rom catalogs
 possible.

    My address is:

       Philip R. Canterbury, Jr.
       1004 New Mexico Drive
       Pensacola, FL 32505
       [phone]

         Or you can net-mail me at:
         1:3612/169 (fido net) 904-453-8993 (bbs)

thanx

Philip

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From: PHILIP CANTERBURY NORMAN BATES         Number: 390
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93  2:20a
Subj: CD disk resellers                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

 I would like to get some infomation on becoming a cd rom distior or
reseller.

   I help run a local computer store and would like to start carring cd rom
 disk in it.  I would like to fine a place that would give me eather
 a wholesale discost or a bulk discost on cd rom's and cd disks.

    904-453-1434

thanx


Philip

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From: BRIAN MILLER                           Number: 391
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/04/93  6:55a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
-> Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, and we'd
-> glad to get one right out to you.  Thanks!
->
->                                                         Jim...

Brian Miller
404 Baldie St.
Ionia, MI 48846


Thank you....


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From: BRIAN MILLER                           Number: 392
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/04/93  7:01a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> >CD Game Pack II       $26

Is this the NEW Games 1993 disk that just came out?  If so I want it.


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From: BRIAN MILLER                           Number: 393
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/04/93  7:06a
Subj: Clearance Sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Do you have the NEW Games 1993 cd, if so how much and can you ship it
out to me COD?   You should still have my address from the cdrom drive I
bought from you.  Let me know what the scoop is and I'll let ya know if
it beats other prices I have seen, if so lets make a deal.


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From: KEITH SHEEHAN                          Number: 394
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 06/02/93 10:59p
Subj: MITSUMI'S                               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

You need a CD from Kodak called Photo CD Access. It is a windows-based
program so you also need Win 3.1 to run it. You can also access the Photo CDs
from graphics packages such as Corel Draw or Tempra but Photo CD Access is
the cheapest solution. It lists for $35 but you can usually get it fir around
$29 if you look around. Hope this helps.

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From: SCOTT ELMORE                           Number: 395
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93  3:53p
Subj: GEEZ                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Okay every dealer LISTEN UP!!!

    I am a SysOp, who enjoys reading this echo to find cd-s that are
reasonably priced.. HOWEVER. When a few of you started advertising "Send
your name and address for free catalog" my mail packets like DOUBLED in
size!

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE... Have them call you voice! It is worth $.50 to $1.00
for a catalog to be mailed free! Come on guys, lets stop cluttering up this
echo!!!

Moderator? What do you think...

    (BTW, here about every 3 messages is a catalog request)

                                --Scott

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From: CHRIS ASBURY                           Number: 396
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/03/93 11:17p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send me a copy of your catalogue.  May as well send the adult list
also.

Please send to:
Chris Asbury
PO Box 848
Mills, WY  82644

Thank You

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From: BRIAN HIPPS                            Number: 397
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 06/04/93  1:54p
Subj: Fao gold                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

AM>   Well, like most people, I hate to admit I am not perfect, but... It
AM>so happens I am not.  A while back I entered a few messages warning

Andrew, we live in a time when people would rather lie about an incorrect
statement or action they may have comitted than to admit they were wrong. I
commend and respect you for your honesty.

=== WinQwk 2.0b#0


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 398
  To: TYLER A. WUNDER                          Date: 06/04/93  5:49p
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Tyler!

Thursday June 03 1993, Tyler A. Wunder writes to Dave Reed:

 TAW> In a msg of <Monday May 31 1993>, Dave Reed writes to All:

 DR>> Bibles & Religion ........... 12.00

 TAW>      Hi Dave.  This one looks interesting.  What more can you tell me
 TAW> about it?

Uhhhhh.... that it's sold out?  ;-(

I could probably come up with some more, if I were asked to do so.  ;-)

Dave

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 399
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/04/93  3:27a
Subj: Re: Adult ROMs Wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bob,
Did you get the message that I called and was interested in trading?

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Santa's elves are just a bunch of subordinate Clauses.


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 400
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/04/93 10:02a
Subj: Re: I am looking...                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> In a message to All <05-31-93 23:21> Vito Servideo wrote:
-> VS>> I am looking for a cdrom that has clipart that I could use with
-> VS>> word
-> VS>> processors and dtp programs
->
-> Encyclopedia of ClipArt--Ask an dealer in the echo. Its all PCX and n
-> garbage--Mnaual for this will be released in the summer that gives yo
-> of all the 11,000 clips.
->
-> -=*>Lee<*=-
->
-> --- GEcho 1.00+
->  * Origin: Queen Of Hearts BBS [phone] (1:3618/23)

Thanks Lee


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 401
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/04/93 10:03a
Subj: can...                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can somebody give me the price of "Encycopedia of Clipart"


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 402
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/04/93 10:08a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
-> Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, and we'd
-> glad to get one right out to you.  Thanks!
->
->                                                         Jim...
-> Computer Works
-> CD-Rom Sales!
-> [phone] Voice
-> [phone] BBS
->
-> --- FreeMail 1.08b
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I would be interestedin recieving a catalog that also includes adult
images

Vito A Servideo
2741 ne 24 street
Pompano Beach, FL 33064

Thanks in advance


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From: JASON GROSS                            Number: 403
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/04/93  3:40p
Subj: Still looking                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RE: Re: Sony CD-ROM drive
BY: John Trimback

for a inexpensive CDROM drive to buy.




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From: JEAN-GUY PARE                          Number: 404
  To: TYLER A. WUNDER                          Date: 06/04/93  2:02p
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOGS!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 G'day Tyler,

->
-> In a msg of <Sunday May 30 1993>, Doug Burden writes to Jean-guy Pare:
-> DB> Please include me in your catalog list! DB> DOug Burden DB> box 1163
DB>
-> Angus, Ontario DB> LOM 1BO
->    From this I assume that you're handing out free cd-rom catalogs?  If
so,
-> could you please send one my way?

   Sorry Doug sent his message to the wrong personne, i'm not seller but
buyer.
           Jean-Guy
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From: CHRIS MILLIKIN                         Number: 405
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93  9:14p
Subj: June Updates                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                J U N E  P R O D U C T  Updates

   C D - R O M  Computer Software  (Compton's New Media)
   ------------------------------------------------------------------
   THE GRAMMY AWARDS.........................................$ 35.95
   MEGA MOVIE GUIDE..........................................$ 41.95
   JAZZ - A Multimedia History...............................$ 59.95
   Multimedia Golf Guide.....................................$ 23.95
   KGB/CIA World Fact Book...................................$ 29.95
   USA Today.................................................$ 41.95
   Software Jukebox - All American Sports....................$ 29.95
   The Madness of Roland.....................................$ 35.95
   Greatest Book Collection..................................$ 29.95
   New Basics - Electronic Cookbook..........................$ 41.95
   Time Table of History - Arts & Entertainment..............$ 41.95
   Beauty and the Beast......................................$ 23.95

   VIRGIN GAMES CD-ROM
   THE 7TH GUEST  - First interactive drama in terrifyingly
   real  virtual environment complete with live actors. Old
   man Stauf's bizarre puzzles  to solve and games to play.
   Twenty - two rooms to explore in  a fully - realized 3-D
   haunted mansion  with ghastly surprises lurking in every
   shadow.......................................................$ 51.95

                     --------------------------
   - Prepaid: Money Order, Cashiers Check, Personal/Business Check.
   - Orders are processed when check clears. U.S. Funds. No COD.
   - UPS Ground shipping not included.
   - Prices are subject to change without notice.
   - Not Responsible for Typos.
   - Business Hours: Mon-Sat 08:30-6:30pm MST.
   - CALL for current pricing !! .. [phone]

      SEC-COMM International, 14633 E. 47th Ave., Denver, CO 80239

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From: BRANDAN UPSON                          Number: 406
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 06/05/93  4:00p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Call me voice at [phone]. Very interested in making the trade.

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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 407
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/04/93 10:43p
Subj: Cd-rom drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy Patrick,

01 Jun 93, Patrick Rosenheim writes to All:

 >> PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Drive, Danvers, MA 01923-3453
 >> Phone: [phone] - Mastercard & Visa accepted!!!!

How do you ship?

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From: RICHARD VONZEL                         Number: 408
  To: LOREN EVERS                              Date: 06/05/93  8:59p
Subj: messages                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Hi,
-> Back again.  One quick question, do you have, or are you going to get
-> a QWK type offline mail service.  You have probably the most
-> extensive fido conference selection, and I would like to utilize my
-> time on the board better, by not reading online.  I see that you have
-> just set up the board with new software, so I'm sure you have your
-> work cut out for you.  Just consider this a constructive comment, and
-> work on it whenever you may get the time.


  Yes from the main menu user the XPRESS quick command....


Richard.
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From: LOREN EVERS                            Number: 409
  To: RICHARD VONZEL                           Date: 06/05/93  8:56a
Subj: messages                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,
Back again.  One quick question, do you have, or are you going to get a
QWK type offline mail service.  You have probably the most extensive
fido conference selection, and I would like to utilize my time on the
board better, by not reading online.  I see that you have just set up
the board with new software, so I'm sure you have your work cut out for
you.  Just consider this a constructive comment, and work on it whenever
you may get the time.
Keep up the good work on the board...
-Loren
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 410
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/02/93 10:39p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den Inc. CD Complaint!  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LN> Thanks Babe !! You bet we are and there is going to be a "Busty Babes
 LN> Vol II", 1000 scans, no penetration shots on this
 LN> disc--Just locked into the deal this weekend--All
 LN> material is copyrighted by photographer and he is
 LN> allowing it to go on the BBS. We expect to bring
 LN> this disc to market in 45 days (ready to ship).
 LN> Gorgeous woman, and top notch professional scanning.

Sounds like another nice one.  They are definitely at the top of the list in
quality <g>.

 LN> consumer expectations--So far IBM technology is off
 LN> the marker, but we did find a company at COMDEX
 LN> that want to prove us wrong, and want the to do the
 LN> project with us as a joint venture--SO we are
 LN> sending them beta clips to see what they are all
 LN> about--

I know what you mean.  Wish I could afford to buy and had the time to get one
of those 100 CD changers <g>.  Were you there Monday or Tuesday?  Saw Faye on
Monday.  She was tied up with a customer on Tuesday when I went by.  Saw
Component, Trade Shows, CD Rom Source, Walnut Creek, Max Systems, and a
couple I hadn't seen before I think.  It was most interesting.  That wouldn't
surprise me on the scouts.  It will be interesting to see who comes out on
top in the shareware and adult CD market <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 411
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/02/93 10:51p
Subj: Heavy Hitters                           Refer: NONE
Read: 06/07/93  6:06a                       Private: No

 TH> Here are the CD ROM people who exibited at COMDEX Atlanta..
 TH> Dr. T's                          Compton's New Media

I know Comptons was supposed to have a booth there, but it was closed up when
I went by on Monday and Tuesday.....

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From: DAVE HITT                              Number: 412
  To: IAN LEVSTEIN                             Date: 06/05/93 11:51p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I realize that Ian, and just attached my message to yours, for lack of a
better place to put it.  Sorry for any confusioni.

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From: JAMIE MORGAN                           Number: 413
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 06/03/93  5:29p
Subj: How do I?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In response to your question on the SoundBlaster card, I believe that
the only CDROM drives you may purchase are made by either Panasonic or
one other brand (I don't recall the other one but it's not yours).  It
was printed on the outside of the SoundBlaster package, however I threw
my package away.


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From: LEWIS BULLARD                          Number: 414
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93 11:00a
Subj: FOR SALE                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



Need to sell my system for fall tuition. PB Legend 920 (486sx), 4meg ram
onboard vga, PB vga monitor, 124 meg IDE Seagate, 2400 baud modem, bus mouse,
Magnovox CDD 461 cd-rom and cd audio player with  set of aiwa speakers with
amps, Logitech 32 grayscale hand scanner with interface card, dual disk
drives,
will include 6 cdrom disks with purchase at asked price of $1300. Great setup
for DTP. Lewis 405-357-5942 in the pm or echo back.

... Double your harddrive space -- delete Windows!!!!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 415
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93 12:06p
Subj: CD Specials                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Monster Disk - $35.  Shareware Extravag - $45.   CD PowerBox      - $20.
Pier 1       - $29.  SoundWaV           - $25.   Shareware Online - $29.
Asian Ladies - $35.  Adult Ref Library  - $35.   All ChestNuts    - $14.
Hobbs OS/2   - $25.  Windows 1993       - $25.   Night Owl 8      - $29.
Groilers Ency DOS / Windows Version - $50.00ec   Night Owl 7      - $19.
Gameware     - $30.  Canadian Shareware - $15.   IBM Sampler      - $ 7.
  Mitsumi Int (350ms) - $195. Nec36M - Complete Ext SCSI System $269.
        Pioneer DM600 - Bare Drive - $799.     DM604X - $1199.
 ORDERS ONLY - 800-243-0517 For Tech or Product Info Call - 216-225-3263
      (((((((((((   Call Us - You'll Be Glad You Did   ))))))))))))))


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 416
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93 12:06p
Subj: Pioneer Special                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> S P E C I A L   P U R C H A S E <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
                 From Consumer's Club International
Because this is a LIMITED OFFER, the following units will be sold on
a first come first serve basis. Once these units are gone, the offer
will end and we WILL NOT place any orders on back order status.

Pioneer DMR 600 - 600ms / 150kps - bare drive  - PRICE $ 799.00
Pioneer DMR 604X -350ms / 600kps - bare drive  - PRICE $1199.00
                Visa - MasterCard - C.O.D - Pre-Paid
    ORDERS ONLY - 800-243-0517 - TECH SUPPORT - 216-225-3263


Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 417
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93  5:35p
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISONS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

------------------------------------------------------------------------
                SHAREWARE CD-ROM DUPLICATION COMPARISONS
------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.0

PR1 = PIER1                PR2 = PIER2                 NO7 = NIGHT OWL 7
SS1 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 1   SS2 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 2    NO8 = NIGHT OWL 8
SC2 = SUPER CD 2           SV1 = SOFTWARE VAULT        CDP = CD POWERBOX
SWO = SHAREWARE ONLINE     MON = MONSTER DISC

           % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
          ---------------------------------------------------
     PR1   PR2   NO7   NO8   SS1   SS2   MON   SC2   SV1   CDP   SWO
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
PR1| .06%| .23%| 1.8%| 6.5%| 3.2%| 7.2%| 7.6%| 6.5%| .70%| 2.1%| 4.5%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
PR2| .23%| .00%| .09%| .43%| .34%| 2.5%| 1.7%| .85%| .40%| .18%| .19%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
NO7| 1.8%| .09%| .06%| .57%| 5.0%| 7.4%|34.0%| 9.9%| 1.2%|77.3%| 7.0%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
NO8| 6.5%| .43%| .57%| .24%| 1.4%| 7.0%| 4.9%|46.3%| 1.0%| .89%| 1.8%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SS1| 3.2%| .34%| 5.0%| 1.4%| .15%| .16%| 7.6%| 3.4%| 2.3%| 7.3%| 7.4%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SS2| 7.2%| 2.5%| 7.4%| 7.0%| .16%| .01%|14.8%|11.3%| 4.7%| 7.2%| 7.1%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
MON| 7.6%| 1.7%|34.0%| 4.9%| 7.6%|14.8%| .91%|15.4%| .54%|24.2%|19.1%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SC2| 6.5%| .85%| 9.9%|46.3%| 3.4%|11.3%|15.4%| 1.3%| .70%| 9.0%| 2.9%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SV1| .70%| .40%| 1.2%| 1.0%| 2.3%| 4.7%| .54%| .70%| 2.6%| 3.3%| 1.1%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
CDP| 2.1%| .18%|77.3%| .89%| 7.3%| 7.2%|24.2%| 9.0%| 3.3%| .23%| 7.0%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SWO| 4.5%| .19%| 7.0%| 1.8%| 7.4%| 7.1%|19.1%| 2.9%| 1.1%| 7.0%| .84%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+

        PRICES
        ------
        PIER 1..............29.00      PIER 2..............45.00
        NIGHT OWL 7.........25.00      NIGHT OWL 8.........33.50
        SHAREWARE STUDIO 1..21.00      SHAREWARE STUDIO 2..27.00
        MONSTER DISC 2-PAK..44.00      SUPER CD 2..........29.00
        SOFTWARE VAULT......26.00      CD POWERBOX.........23.00
        SHAREWARE ONLINE....29.00

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 418
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93  5:35p
Subj: SUM NU STUF!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

**************************************************************************
                      NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
**************************************************************************

1.  GAMES 1993 - 6000+ files, and over 500 megabytes of nothing but the
    world's best games!  Tetris clones, Lotto, casino, sports, arcade,
    flight simulator utilities, etc. CGA/EGA/VGA. BBS-Ready.  ** $28.00 **

2.  SCI-FI - Star Trek, Star Wars, Fantasy, D&D, & more!  Over 1200
    VGA photos w/ sound files too! BBS-ready.  ** $29.00 **

3.  SWIMWEAR 1993 - 1500 VGA photos of beautiful swimsuit-clad women.
    All GIF's are 640x480 to 1024x768 resolution.  No x-rated material
    here.  BBS-ready.  ** $29.00 **

4.  HOUSE OF GAMES - EGA/VGA/SVGA game CD.  Covers the best of shareware
    games.  All are ready to run right from the CD!  ** $29.00 **

5.  MY FIRST TIME - Full length adult feature film on CD starring Nikki
    Dial.  Similar to Rimfire Pacific, except you don't need Windows
    for this one!  2-CD set = 80 minutes.  ** $65.00 **

   ** SPECIAL OFFER:  Buy any two above and take a 5% discount.  Buy
                      any four and deduct 7%.  Buy all 5 and take 10%
                      off!  (This offer is for a limited time only)

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 419
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93  5:35p
Subj: TOP 5 SHAREWARE CD'S                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

**************************************************************************
                   TOP 5 BEST-SELLING SHAREWARE CD'S!
**************************************************************************

1. PIER 2 - Perhaps the most outstanding shareware disc to ever come along!
   Over 650 megabytes of terrific, top-shelf shareware with less than 1%
   duplication to Pier 1 and Night Owl 8.  Over 5,000 files in 50 different
   categories, with 75% dated 1993, and 25% dated 1992. If you want the
   BEST shareware CD on the market for your personal or BBS use, there is
   only one choice:  Pier 2.  ** $45.00 **

2. SHAREWARE STUDIO #2 - An outstanding new disc with 6659 hand-picked
   1992/1993 shareware files.  Includes every possible file area from
   ANSI Graphics to Word Processing.  Fully BBS-ready with a super-
   slick user interface.  All files free of archive errors, BBS
   ads, AV codes, and all known computer viruses. Less than 1/2 of 1%
   internal duplicates, with NO dupes to #1!  637mb total.  ** $27.00 **

3. SOFTWARE VAULT #2 - A phenomenal collection of late releases,
   including the "Hottest Hits" of Spring 1993.  Fully BBS-compatible,
   with FILES.BBS in each directory.  Categories include Windows
   Applications & Games, DOS games, Family and Education, General
   Business Programs, PC Utilities, Graphics, Programming Utilities &
   Source Code, Music & Sound, Special Interests, and much more.  620mb
   total.  This one won't be available everywhere!  ** $29.00 **

4. MONSTER DISC 2-PAK - A fantastic 2-CD combo that combines the absolute
   best of 1992 and 1993 shareware in a neat package.  Includes a highly
   attractive bound manual that lists every single program on the CD's,
   and gives an informative description of each.  ** $44.00 **

5. NIGHT OWL 8 - What more can be said about this one?  Always contro-
   versial, the Night Owl shareware CD's still prove to be among the
   "league's elite" in the shareware category.  With an updated search
   engine, over 600 megs, a 70/30 split of 1992/1993 files, and less
   than 1% duplication to previous N.O. discs, this one is a MUST HAVE!
   ** $33.50 **  (Only $55 w/ Night Owl 7)

   ** SPECIAL OFFER:  Buy any two above and take a 5% discount.  Buy
                      any three and deduct 7%.  Buy all five and take 10%
                      off!  (This offer is for a limited time only)

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: ED FORTIN                              Number: 420
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/05/93 12:00a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogue                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send a catalogue to the folowing address
         Ed Fortin
         RR7 Conc 5
         Perth,Ont
         K7H-3C9

        Regards Ed

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From: BRYAN SPEED                            Number: 421
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  5:22a
Subj: CD Drive Prices/Types                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

For my first time to pick up and actaully read this echo, I find it to be
quite interesting.

I see msgs reffering to 4 and 6 drive units, etc.
And I see prices discussed on the 6 dive units, but can someone fill me in
on the brand/types of 4 drive units ?

I am about to purchase another one of those Mitsumi 200.00 single, internal
units, however....

Thanks for the help,
Bryan


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From: BRYAN SPEED                            Number: 422
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  5:30a
Subj: OnLine CD Disk Catalogs                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I would like to solicit any Online catalogs of CD-Disks.
Also solicited are standard catalogs-by-snail mail!

Please: NO- Adult-Only catalogs!

Note: OnLine catalogers: If you have PCX/TIF, etc Logos, send them also
      for RIP online display!

Mailing Address:
Bryan Speed/SoftLink Online
520 English Oak
Allen, Tx. 75002
Netmail per the origin Line!


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From: WAYNE STRICKLAND                       Number: 423
  To: JACK BROWN                               Date: 06/06/93  5:14a
Subj: Re: Free cd-rom catalogs!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm interested in all titles.
address: 2025 Wilmot St.
Philadelphia,Pa.
19124-3407
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From: DOCTOR PLEASURE                        Number: 424
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/05/93  1:09p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM CATALOG                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jim,

I'd like to be added to the CD-ROM Mailing list, including adult titles.

Olen Leonard
P.O. Box 921622
Norcross, Ga. 30092

Thanks...

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From: SAM FERTITTA                           Number: 425
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93  5:05p
Subj: Looking for cd's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Lookig for used cd's, or prices on new.

Loom, Sherlock Holmes #2, Arthurs Teacher Trouble, Dinosaurs. Also Busty
Babes and Ecstasy.

Call 716-383-0754 or reply here.


Thanks...Sam
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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 426
  To: MIKE MAST                                Date: 05/25/93  1:16p
Subj: Need a CD SCSI controller               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PP>*** Quoting Mike Mast to Philip Polstra dated 05-20-93 ***
PP>>  > I need a SCSI controller for my Chinon 435 so I can use it
PP>>  > with Windows NT.  I'm looking for the cheapest controller I
PP>>  > can get that is NT compatible which probably means Future
PP>>  > Domain.
PP>>

I have a Adaptec 1540B SCSI 16-Bit busmastering SCSI controller.
It is both SCSI-1 and SCSI-2 compatable, supports upto 7 devices,no
floppy support.  With installation manual, EZ-SCSI drives, printed
technical manual and next day shipping.  In excellent shape.

OS/2 2.1 has support for this card.  At this point, MS has not indicated
which SCSI adapters they will support yet, but you can bet that Adaptec
willbe one of them.

Anyway, I would like $100 for this card, which is probably $20 more
expensive than the cheap Future Domain non-busmastering SCSI HA.

415-586-8140 if you are interested.


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Old age comes at a bad time.


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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 427
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/25/93  1:24p
Subj: Trade for Drive                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a Syquest SQ555 internal (white face plate, with the latest BIOS
from Syquest), one 44MB cartridge (currently loaded with GIFs), and a
1540B SCSI host adapter with EZ-SCSI drives, install.manual, and
technical manual that I would like to trade for a SCSI cd-rom.

I will only consider multi-spin drives (I.E., Texel, NEC, Toshiba, etc).

I will cover all shippings costs and everything will be done via next
day express mail so neither of us will have have to wait.

If you are interested, pls leave message or give me a call (collect if
you desire) at 415-586-8140.

BTW, Syquest has about 3 operating hours on it and the 1540B is about a
year old.


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From: BOB HART                               Number: 428
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93  9:24p
Subj: WANTED:CD ROM DRIVE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for an ext. cd-rom drive; used or new it
doesn't matter,and if possible around $200.


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From: BOB HART                               Number: 429
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 05/31/93  9:26p
Subj: CD catalog                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send a catalog to:
                        Bob Hart
                        5397 Heckel dr.
                        Roseville,Ohio 43777

      Adult cd's if possible.


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From: GEORGE BREDEHOFT                       Number: 430
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/05/93  9:31p
Subj: cd catalog                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jim,

Please send your cd catalog to:

    George Bredehoft
    815 Licking View Drive
    Heath, OH 43056

Thanks a lot.


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From: DANG NGUYEN                            Number: 431
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/04/93 10:30p
Subj: Distributor                             Refer: NONE
Read: 06/07/93  6:17a                       Private: No

From my understanding, you are a distributor.  I am interested in
pressing a CD whose contents I will discuss with you later.  But I am
looking for a distributor and am requesting information on this matter.
Please give me a call at 714-539-4251 or leave a message here.  Thank
you.

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 432
  To: MIKE MAST                                Date: 06/06/93  6:46a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CD-ROM Drives               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MM>  > Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM bare drive.  DIP Switches for SCSI ID
MM>  > Setting.
MM>  > True SCSI, 350ms Access, 150k transfer rate.
MM>
MM>  > $200.00
MM>
MM> Are these new or used?  Warranty?  Work with Trantor controller?

Used. 60 Day Warranty. The drive should work with your controller.  It's a
SCSI drive, not a proprietary one.

Thanks.

205-837-5053

M. Konor
AMIGA_CDROM Co.Moderator
Request if from your SYSOP.


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 433
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  7:46a
Subj: Cheap CD-ROM Drive                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


Toshiba XM-3201 Series SCSI CD-ROMS Drives.

External Unit:

Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
power supply and cable.  Include two Centronics 50 connectors mounted to
rear of the enclosure for I/O and passthru cabling.  Easy access to SCSI
ID Switches.  True SCSI. 350ms Access. 150k transfer rate. External
headphone jack and volume control.  Powersupply accepts 90-240 Volts AC.

$225.00

Internal Unit:

Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM bare drive.  DIP Switches for SCSI ID Setting.
True SCSI, 350ms Access, 150k transfer rate.  External headphone jack and
volume control.

$200.00

60 day defect warranty included.


205-837-5053
leave message if not home, it WILL be returned.

Michael Konor
AMIGA_CDROM Co.Moderator




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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 434
  To: FRANK MALCZEWSKI                         Date: 06/07/93  6:02a
Subj: AMIGA A-MAXII Mac Emulatr               Refer: 3825
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> A-Max II Macintosh emulator cartridge, Original MAC 128K ROMS, AMAX I
-> software (including quick load program) and manuals. $165

Frank, this is the CDROM_SALE echo.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 435
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/07/93  6:21a
Subj: Heavy Hitters                           Refer: 3853
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->  TH> Here are the CD ROM people who exibited at COMDEX Atlanta..
->  TH> Dr. T's                          Compton's New Media
->
-> I know Comptons was supposed to have a booth there, but it was closed
-> I went by on Monday and Tuesday.....

They had one of those "hidden" booths, where you had to go behind a
curtain to see their wares - kinda like one of those county fair deals.

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 436
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/07/93  6:14a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISONS                Refer: 3859
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->            % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
->           ---------------------------------------------------
->      PR1   PR2   NO7   NO8   SS1   SS2   MON   SC2   SV1   CDP   SWO
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> PR1| .06%| .23%| 1.8%| 6.5%| 3.2%| 7.2%| 7.6%| 6.5%| .70%| 2.1%| 4.5%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> PR2| .23%| .00%| .09%| .43%| .34%| 2.5%| 1.7%| .85%| .40%| .18%| .19%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> NO7| 1.8%| .09%| .06%| .57%| 5.0%| 7.4%|34.0%| 9.9%| 1.2%|77.3%| 7.0%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> NO8| 6.5%| .43%| .57%| .24%| 1.4%| 7.0%| 4.9%|46.3%| 1.0%| .89%| 1.8%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> SS1| 3.2%| .34%| 5.0%| 1.4%| .15%| .16%| 7.6%| 3.4%| 2.3%| 7.3%| 7.4%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> SS2| 7.2%| 2.5%| 7.4%| 7.0%| .16%| .01%|14.8%|11.3%| 4.7%| 7.2%| 7.1%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> MON| 7.6%| 1.7%|34.0%| 4.9%| 7.6%|14.8%| .91%|15.4%| .54%|24.2%|19.1%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> SC2| 6.5%| .85%| 9.9%|46.3%| 3.4%|11.3%|15.4%| 1.3%| .70%| 9.0%| 2.9%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> SV1| .70%| .40%| 1.2%| 1.0%| 2.3%| 4.7%| .54%| .70%| 2.6%| 3.3%| 1.1%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> CDP| 2.1%| .18%|77.3%| .89%| 7.3%| 7.2%|24.2%| 9.0%| 3.3%| .23%| 7.0%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----
-> SWO| 4.5%| .19%| 7.0%| 1.8%| 7.4%| 7.1%|19.1%| 2.9%| 1.1%| 7.0%| .84%
->    +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----

That's good stuff... Thanks for the post.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 437
  To: DANG NGUYEN                              Date: 06/07/93  6:20a
Subj: Distributor                             Refer: 3873
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> From my understanding, you are a distributor.  I am interested in
-> pressing a CD whose contents I will discuss with you later.  But I am
-> looking for a distributor and am requesting information on this matte
-> Please give me a call at 714-539-4251 or leave a message here.  Thank
-> you.

Hey Dang,

I'll be glad to help - will call you today.  If I miss you, my number is
404-621-9210.

tim
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From: STEPHEN GUPTON                         Number: 438
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/07/93  4:45a
Subj: SUM NU STUF!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Jun0704:45, Mike Shannon of 1:3407/101 writes:

 MS> *****************************************************************
 MS> *********
 MS>                       NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
 MS> *****************************************************************
 MS> *********

 MS> 1.  GAMES 1993 - 6000+ files, and over 500 megabytes of nothing
 MS> but the
 MS>     world's best games!  Tetris clones, Lotto, casino, sports,
 MS> arcade,
 MS>     flight simulator utilities, etc. CGA/EGA/VGA. BBS-Ready.  **
 MS> $28.00 **
     I spoke with 3 differant distributors and all say this disk is hosed up,
and yet, they were honest enough to point this out rather than just make a
sale.

   Stephen


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From: EARL BONSER                            Number: 439
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/04/93 12:45p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> > I have Giffy Gold,
-> I have Physical Therapy, volume 3, an almost exact duplicate of XXX
-> Extreme that I would trade for the above.  I  bought this one at
-> comdex, and did not realize it duplicated extreme, so it is in
-> perfect condition.  Interested?

If he isn't, I am.  Let me know by calling [phone] after 6pm EST
any evening or anytime on the weekend.
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From: JIM REED                               Number: 440
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 06/04/93  3:28p
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TK>  >    in the background.  I have not noticed any conflict with other
TK>  >    programs yet, it must not even be using the CPU because I can't

TK> yeah. it's a small tsr.  just don't use DESQVIEW with it, and you'll
TK>continue to enjoy it.  Desqview is the only prog I know of that locks it
TK>up! even when it is executed before running it.

Hi Tim;
        Thanks for the advise - Yes I do use DV and will heed your
        advise.
                        THanks
                                /JIM/

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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 441
  To: JIM CLEMENTS                             Date: 06/05/93  1:02p
Subj: hello                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

will do tha Jim, sorry to hear about your accident, hope that you are
recovered fully from that, i myself am injured. i feel of a house last
year . still on crutches at this time.  well thanks for the reply.
i  dont want to make the moderator of this echo mad at me for not
mentioning cd roms...   so do you have a cd rom? <G> i have 3 of the
drives and a 3 node bbs here in the tampa bay area ... good talking with
you    best regards   bubba therrien
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From: KEN CARPENTER                          Number: 442
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93 11:18p
Subj: CorelDraw 3.0 CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am trying to get a good price on CorelDraw 3.0 can anyone help. I have
Word for Windows/Bookshelf92 if anyone is interested in a trade
otherwise a good price will do fine.

                                                 Thanks
                                                 Ken


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 443
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/06/93  8:12a
Subj:  Adult ROMs Wanted                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TW> Did you get the message that I called and was interested in trad


Yep. I called back and left a message for you as well. At any rate, the
CDs are gone now. Perhaps "next time".
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 444
  To: JERE WESSELL                             Date: 06/06/93  8:26a
Subj: asian ladies                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JW> Jere, Sysop Nighthawk Adult Graphics


As a "user" (as opposed to being a sysop), I'm generally favorably
impressed by your work, Jere. Where do you get the original material;
are you a photographer as well? Are the "PC Pix" bunch planning #4?
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 445
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/06/93  8:30a
Subj: CD Stats                                Refer: NONE
Read: 06/08/93  6:55a                       Private: No

Even as "just a user" I found this data very interesting, Tim. Thanks
for taking the trouble to post it!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 446
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 06/06/93  8:28a
Subj: MONARCH NOTES                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

FYI:

Best Buy here in Houston is selling Monarch Notes for $44.95. In
general, their CD-ROM prices (mostly games) were very good compared to
what's posted on the the echo. Those with BB stores in their neck of the
woods might do well to check them out.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 447
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/06/93  8:24a
Subj: PACKAGE                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris:

Did you get the package of CDs I sent you? What do you think of my
suggestion?
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From: PIERRE PROULX                          Number: 448
  To: TOM PAULK                                Date: 06/05/93  8:47p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Tom!

In a message to Pierre Proulx <06/03/93> Tom Paulk wrote:

TP> I would like to get a copy of your CD-ROM catalogue.  Am interested in
TP> adult titles also.
TP> Send to:
TP> Tom Paulk
TP> 2359 Millbrae Dr.
TP> Henderson, NV 89014

You got the wrong person, I think you are referring to Jim Lambert, He is
the one with whom you should get in touch.


Pierre Proulx

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From: JASON BUCHANON                         Number: 449
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 06/05/93 12:58p
Subj: Re: TIM HELTON                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All Users <05-20-93 10:51> Terry Blount wrote:

TB>   I just came back from Atlanta today where I  had  the  chance  to
TB>   meet our honorable moderator of this conference,  and  the  great
TB>   business tycoon... Tim Helton.  I must say this is a mighty  fine
TB>   dude.  He allowed me to interrupt his schedule  for a  few  hours
TB>   this morning and he shared a wealth of secret inside hot  tips...
TB>   all for a $1.50 breakfast!

Next time your in seattle you can buy ME breakfast too, but it'll be more
like $10.50!  :-)  keep buying breakfast and you can interrupt my schedule
as often as you like.

                              -=Jason=-

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From: JASON BUCHANON                         Number: 450
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/05/93  1:03p
Subj: CD Powerbox disc                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey Mike!

Thanks for sending that powerbox disc so fast!!!  Your right......... it is
a good disc!  I was wondering though, why is this disc so much cheaper than
the night owl while its so much higher quality?

Somewere i was reading about a new disc called "cream'n your jeans" or
"cream of the crop" or something like that.... do you know anything about
it?  How mych is it?  Is it worth the money?

                             -=Jason=-

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From: JASON BUCHANON                         Number: 451
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 06/05/93  1:07p
Subj: Re: Some Disk Recommendations           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Don Nelson <05-23-93 09:39> Dave Perkovich wrote:

DP> The CD PowerBox and WinBox will prove to be a GREAT combination for
DP> sysops and users alike seeing as though there is minimal dupes between
the
DP> two (less than 1%)

YES YES YES!  They are!  I got the files list from Dave Reed and I cant
wait till he ships the WinBox!!!  My wife is about ready to kill me though
cause I buy too many disks, then register too many programs!  :-)

Thanks for the good disks adn keep up the good work!

                         -=Jason=-

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From: KEN MORRISON                           Number: 452
  To: JACK BROWN                               Date: 06/06/93  9:10a
Subj: Re: Free cd-rom catalogs!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jack Brown to Jim Lambert <=-

 JB> JLI am now sending out our new CD-Rom catalog from Computer Works.
 JB> Anyone JLwishing to be added to our mailing list, please leave me a
 JB> message with JLyour address.  Specify if you are interested in adult
 JB> titles.  Thanks!
 JB> Please send a catalog, including adult titles, to:  P.O. Box 19825
 JB> Portland OR 97219
 JB> ===
 JB> * MegaMail 2.10 #1281:

 JB> -!- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251
 JB>  ! Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 (1:105/285)

Please send me your new CD-ROM catalog also your adult titles to
                Ken Morrison
                P O Box 378
                Morrisville N.C.27560
   I am the SySop of the Outland BBS Tag!

                                        Ken...

... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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From: KEN MORRISON                           Number: 453
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  9:26a
Subj: Genealogy CD-Rom Disk...                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hi There
        I am looking for a CD-Rom Disk On Geneology, any help would be
        appreciated.  I would prefer that the press date on the disk be
        some time in 1993.  Thank you.

                                        Ken


... He's got Blue Wave fever and it's spreading through the message bases!
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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 454
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/05/93  6:57a
Subj: Re: CDROM DISTRIBUTORS WA               Refer: NONE
Read: 06/08/93  6:56a                       Private: No

TH>We've just gotten an exclusive to distribute a new & interactive adult
TH>title.  This disc is 100% original - original girls, original film,
TH>original music, original art, original concept, original everything...
TH>Nothing currently available can touch it. The video portions of this
TH>disc are 30 frames/second on a 320x200 pixel screen and are less than
TH>150 kb/second.  The disc should be ready in about 2 weeks...

Tim,
I'm making a disk that sounds identical to what you have. Can you leave
me your phone number (or netmail it to me)? I'd like to talk to you
about a couple of things.

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Mobius strippers never show you their back side.


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 455
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 06/06/93  9:11a
Subj: Re: Adult cd's to swap                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KP>KP>  Well I have Volcano (ADULT) and VGA Spectrum for trade, If
interested,
KP>TW> I'm interested in the Volcano. What's VGA Spectrum?

KP>VGA Spectrum is a Shareware disk with a little bit of everything on it,
KP>Everything from .GIF's, to Utilities...

Thanks. I'm up to my ears in Shareware disks. Want to trade for the
volcano disk? Send to:
Terry Woodward
Suite 294
2269 S. University Drive
Davie, Fl 33324

Leave me an address and I'll send the cdrom. Which disk was it that you
wanted?

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Just fishin' at the shallow end of the gene pool....


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From: MICHAEL BOOTH                          Number: 456
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/05/93  9:24p
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL┤Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
  ┤Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address,

        Send one to me.  My areas of interest are: Shareware,
        Educational, Childrens, and Games.  *NO* interest in Adult.

        Michael Booth
        31 Bethesda Ct.
        Sacramento, CA 95838

Michael


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From: MICHAEL BOOTH                          Number: 457
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 06/05/93  9:40p
Subj: CDROM RETAILER                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GH┤If you would like a catalog of over 400 CDROM titles.....

        Hello Gabe,

        Please send one to me:
                Michael Booth
                31 Bethesda Ct.
                Sacramento, CA 95838

Michael


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From: MICHAEL BOOTH                          Number: 458
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/05/93 10:17p
Subj: CD WINBOX - WINDOWS DISK                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Dave,

        The CD sounds good, although the second half of your message
        was out of kilter...lines too long.

        Are you the author, or just a distributer?

Michael


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From: SCOTT ATKINS                           Number: 459
  To: TIMOTHY C. NOVAK                         Date: 06/05/93 10:25a
Subj: Re:  Mitsumi drive audio                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Bob Jackson to Timothy C. Novak <=-

 TC> connect my Cd's outputs to the Sound Blaster's inputs and I didn
 TC> anything out of it.  Is there something "special" that I missed?

Tim:

If I remember correctly, you have to swap the wires in the connector.
One unit has the grounds on the inner two pins, and the other has the grounds
on the outer two pins (I think).  If that is not totally correct, at
least I think you can get the idea what you need to look for when mating
the two units.

Good Luck,

Scott
... Reality-ometer:  [\........]  Hmmph!  Thought so...
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From: NICHOLAS QUARM                         Number: 460
  To: JIM DELESKIE                             Date: 06/06/93  9:02p
Subj: Re: CDROM Retailer                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please Send Me A Catalog
   Nick Quarm
     1520 Upson
     El Paso, Texas  79902-3651

Thanx


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From: TIM BURCHAM                            Number: 461
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/06/93 11:52a
Subj: Re: Cd-Rom Catalog                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
JL>Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, and we'd
JL>be glad to get one right out to you .  Thanks!

JL>                                                        Jim...
JL>Computer Works
JL>CD-Rom Sales!
JL>[phone] Voice
JL>[phone] BBS

Jim, I would be interested in your catalog.  Thanks!


Tim Burcham
Sta. 2, Box 218
Houma, Louisiana 70364

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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 462
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/05/93  7:26p
Subj: Catalogue                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy Jim,

Catalogue please, that is, if you ship to Canada.

Kirk Rawnsley
5128 Grove Hill Rd. SW
Calgary Alta.
T3E 4G6

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 463
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 06/06/93  9:10a
Subj: Catalogue                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy Gabe,

Please send your catalogue to;

Kirk Rawnsley
5128 Grove Hill Road SW
Calgary Alberta
Canada
T3E 4G6

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 464
  To: SCOTT ELMORE                             Date: 06/06/93  9:11a
Subj: GEEZ                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy Scott,

03 Jun 93, Scott Elmore writes to All:

 SE>     I am a SysOp, who enjoys reading this echo to find cd-s that are
 SE> reasonably priced.. HOWEVER. When a few of you started advertising
"Send
 SE> your name and address for free catalog" my mail packets like DOUBLED in
 SE> size!

I too am a sysop, and believe me the costs for this echo for many
months would be eaten up in one phone call during business hours to the
US.  This is probably true for many sysops who do not live in your
particular state, depending upon what sort of mail and delivery system
your local net is using.  I expect this echo will cost me about $1.50
per month, probably less.  If I couldn't afford this hobby, I wouldn't
be in it...

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: CRAIG WANG                             Number: 465
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 06/06/93  1:41a
Subj: Cd-roms wanted!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Would a Pilips CM-100 for $150, including shipping in original box
-> work for you--includes card and cable.  Less than one year of
-> use--spend most of its life in storage as excess equipment.  Call me
-> at 719-495-0495, if interested.

Hi Peter, I am interested in this CD-ROM drive, how fast is it? 16 or 8
bit card?

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From: CRAIG WANG                             Number: 466
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/06/93  1:43a
Subj: Sony cd-rom drive                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I'm selling a Sony CD-ROM with 380ms and 150k/sec transfer.This
-> includes all needed cables.I'll throw in LOOM too.I want $185(this
-> includes Loom).

Hi Scott, could you give me the model # on this one?  I'm going to
buy/need a CD-ROM drive very soon.  Thanks.

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From: CRAIG WANG                             Number: 467
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/06/93  2:15a
Subj: Sony cd drive                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Scott,
        Please ignore my previous msg.  If you think $150 sounds good
(I'll pay shipping) then go ahead and give me a call at [phone]
and I'll give you my address.  Thanks.

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From: TAMI THOMPSON                          Number: 468
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  7:20p
Subj: WANTED: Controller for Toshiba 3200     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am in need of a controller (IBM PC) for my Toshiba 3200 CD-ROM drive. The
manual refers to a XM-PB301 & XM-PB841 Host Adapter. I also will need the
software drivers and cable (it is an external drive). Please NetMail me.
Thanks!

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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 469
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/06/93  9:24a
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Dave:

In a msg of <Friday June 04 1993>, Dave Reed writes to Tyler A. Wunder:

 DR>>> Bibles & Religion ........... 12.00

 TAW>> Hi Dave.  This one looks interesting.  What more can you tell me
 TAW>> about it?
 DR> Uhhhhh.... that it's sold out?  ;-(
 DR> I could probably come up with some more, if I were asked to do so.  ;-)

     Well, I'm not asking until I know more about it -- what can you tell me
about it?





Tyler A. Wunder

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From: TIMOTHY C. NOVAK                       Number: 470
  To: ROGER COLLINS                            Date: 06/06/93  5:08a
Subj: Pioneer unit                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RC> Of course, you *can* get the Pioneer unit for just a little more, which
RC> is a *better* deal, if you need 6 drives.

Is that really a better deal?  The reason I ask is that only one disk can be
accessed at a time.  Wouldn't there be problems on a multi-line BBS if two or

more nodes are trying to download a program from different disks?  (Of
course,
I'm talking about downloading directly from the ROM itself too and not having

a program copy the files to disk first.)

Thanks for any info,

Timothy

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From: TIMOTHY C. NOVAK                       Number: 471
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/06/93  5:18a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KR>    Source CD-ROM ............... 17.00

Hello Dave,

    Is this the Source-Code CD with all the programming source on it?  Also,
if you sell "Programmers ROM", can you give me a price for this as well.  If
you happen to have any other programming ROM's that are newer, please let me
know.

Thanks,

Timothy

P.S.  One last thing, if you have it listed, can ya tell me the amount of
megs
on each too?  Thanks!

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 472
  To: JOE VENTURELLI                           Date: 06/06/93  9:36p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den Inc. CD Complaint!  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <06-01-93 15:17> Joe Venturelli wrote:

JV>> Bottom line - The Adult disk market will be left to those who do it
JV>> by the book and the folks infringing on copyrights will find
JV>> themselves in court.

Thanks Joe ! You are absolutely correct and there are scouts attending shows
now to buy up old and new copies of CD-ROMS for legal evaluation. Not only is
this industry having to deal with copyright infringement, but the models that
signed releases in the 70's are challenging those releases for pictures
showing up on CD-ROMS in '93--

But it's not only the adult side under scrutiny....the shareware authors are
filing suits as well--You will see the saturation of shareware CD's drop off
because of the shareware authors barring their works from CD-ROMS--

The honeymoon is over and this will surely cut out all the scam artists that
live to steal others material to produce their own CD's--This should restore
consumer confidence knowing the days of "Re-hashing" are coming to an end.

I cannot begin to tell you of the risk and danger of not knowing the
origination of shareware files and XXX GIFS--Nobody is safe and we are not
the only one that has taken a fall, you will see a few others over the next
few months--It's getting to the point where we have to have the shareware
authors signature for release before their files can go on CD--

This will definately get rid of the rift raft publishers, as well as give the
consumer products they enjoy without worrying about duplications.

We are with you--Any of our material found on another disc, will be litigated
at whatever cost.

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 473
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/06/93  9:41p
Subj: Re:  Florida Lion's Den In              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <06-03-93 12:10> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>>  LN> Got them, Thanks a million--Busty Babes is going backon the mark

Change of plans--Busty has been off the market and will die a "Classic" she
will not be resurrected--Came to this decesion while at Chicago CES--

Good news--Bringing out another "Busty" disc 100% 1024x768 original pictures.

My voice number is [phone].

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 474
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/06/93  9:42p
Subj: Re:  I am looking...                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <06-03-93 12:14> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>>  LN> garbage--Mnaual for this will be released in the summer that giv
          ^^^^^^^

Now, Bob, you lost some of the words from that sentence, is is *NOT* garbage
:) and yes, this is one of ours !!

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 475
  To: RICK ASHWORTH                            Date: 06/06/93 10:02p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den Inc. CD Complaint!  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <06-04-93 01:24> Rick Ashworth wrote:

RA>> You came to Comdex and didn't tell me... <pout>

Did worse then than...I attended the CES show in Chiacago last week too.
Darn, how did I miss so many people.... I hung out at the TradeShows
booth...I will be at the next COMDEX show (not Canada in July) cuz' I will be
pulling handles in 'Vegas--But I will be at the next COMDEX and CES
show--WOuld love to meet you !

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 476
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/06/93 10:12p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den Inc. CD Complaint!  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <06-02-93 22:39> Doug Carpenter wrote:

DC>> Sounds like another nice one.  They are definitely at the top of the
DC>> list in quality <g>.

Thanks Babe--We have 3 blockbuster disc in the works, and we made the
decision in Chicago to let "Busty Babes" go down in the books as a classic.

Instead the next Busty disc will all be 1024x768 of the bustiest women ever
mastered in ROM.....We are going to go total Hi res, and give the people
something to sing about !

DC>> get one of those 100 CD changers <g>.  Were you there Monday or
DC>> Tuesday?  Saw Faye on Monday.

I was there for the entire show and I popped into all the booths--Heard you
were there and I wish I could have met ya ! TradeShows was busy !!

Saw alot of things I wanted--I fell in love with the PC Karoake software for
windows, the one with the mike and 25 songs--Well, at CES I became a dealer
and we are trying to get them to put all available songs on CD-ROM---So,
guess I can't say that I only sell our products cuz' I sell their products
now, so I have revised my position as "FLD sells only their own products and
the products they love to play with " It's the neatest thing !

I am in love with the CHINON 535 series ROM drive--I want one, NOW :) The
hell with Texel drives....

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 477
  To: BRIAN MILLER                             Date: 06/06/93  9:28a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Brian!

In a message to Patrick Rosenheim <06/04/93> Brian Miller wrote:

BM> -> >CD Game Pack II       $26

BM> Is this the NEW Games 1993 disk that just came out?  If so I want it.

HI Brian.. Games 1993.. in stock with overnight shipping included...
$31.95 1-800-289-1ROM The MARKetplace!

(314-521-4862 International)




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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 478
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 06/06/93  9:30a
Subj: can...                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Vito!

In a message to All <06/04/93> Vito Servideo wrote:

VS> Can somebody give me the price of "Encycopedia of Clipart"

$29.00 in stock and ready to ship.. completely BBS ready!

The MARKetplace!
1-800-289-1ROM
International (314-521-4862)




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From: KENT DYER                              Number: 479
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93 10:29p
Subj: Educational CD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone out there know of any CD's on the market that can help teach
someone who knows Spanish and very little English the language?  (English
that is)?  I work with a guy who is willing to buy a PC to help he and his
family to learn English, and I was giving a Demo of Multimedia, and he went
nuts.  That is what he wants, and I told him I'd help him track something
down.

Thanx!

KD


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 480
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/08/93  6:59a
Subj: Re: CDROM DISTRIBUTORS WA               Refer: 3896
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> TH>We've just gotten an exclusive to distribute a new & interactive a
-> TH>title.  This disc is 100% original - original girls, original film
-> TH>original music, original art, original concept, original everythin
-> TH>Nothing currently available can touch it. The video portions of th
-> TH>disc are 30 frames/second on a 320x200 pixel screen and are less t
-> TH>150 kb/second.  The disc should be ready in about 2 weeks...
->
-> Tim,
-> I'm making a disk that sounds identical to what you have. Can you lea
-> me your phone number (or netmail it to me)? I'd like to talk to you

I think alot of people are :(...I'll try netmail.  My voice number is
404-621-9210.

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 481
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 06/08/93  7:07a
Subj: Catalogue                               Refer: 3905
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Please send your catalogue to;
->
->           Kirk Rawnsley
->           Rules are for Other People

Kirk, don't post multiple "send me a catalog" messages... One such post
should get the job done.

tim
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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 482
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/04/93 11:57p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jim-

 JL> I think the next biggest seller will be Digital Dreams.  It is all
 JL> original scans that are 800x600 or better with no BBS ads.  It has a
 JL> very nice user interface also.

You sure are "plugging" this cd alot. Wouldn't be associated with it in
anyway now would you...? :) Let me know whats so special about this one....

Please add me to your list also. -Thank

604 E. Garden
Freeport, IL 61032

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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 483
  To: SAM FERTITTA                             Date: 06/05/93 12:14a
Subj: Looking for cd's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SF> Now that I have finally gotten a CDRom, I am quite anxious to get
 SF> some used CD's. SOme for dad, some for the kids. The kids would
 SF> like Sherlock Holmes 2, or 3, Mammals, Karyndia(?), Dinosaurs, or
 SF> any others that might come to mind. For dad, well, any xxxx-rated
 SF> cd's out there?

Sam-

Have Mammels I'll sell for $25+ 2.90 for USPS 2'nd day. Can recieve Netmail,
so please reply via netmail if possible. -Thank


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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 484
  To: SCOTT ATKINS                             Date: 06/05/93 12:18a
Subj: mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>SA>The 350 Mitsumi drives can be run off the Aztec Sound Galaxy NX-Pro, or
>SA>the ATI Stereo F/X Cd sound card. I have either one. The Aztec is $150
>SA>andthe ATI is $160.

So which one would you recomend for overall performance?-Thank for any input.


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From: BEN LEE                                Number: 485
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  4:12p
Subj: Mitsumi Drivers                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if any of you know what's the lastest version of cdrom
drivers for the Mitsumi Lu005s. (350ms , 150kps drive)

                                                        Ben
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From: CHRIS BARRETT                          Number: 486
  To: JERE WESSELL                             Date: 06/05/93  7:40p
Subj: asian ladies                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Bunch of my older stuff before i boight the hp scan jet IIc.

    Just curious, but where did you get the pictures from? Also, what was
involved in finding a CD company to produce it. I now have access to a HP
Scanjet IIc, own a Logitech Color Handscanner, and I would be interested in
producing a CD. Or, at the very least starting to produce adult GIFs for my
BBS. I am worried about violating copyright laws and stuff.

    Maybe you could netmail me with what is involved and any advice?

                                            Chris

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From: CHRIS BARRETT                          Number: 487
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 06/05/93  7:46p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > VGA Spectrum is a Shareware disk with a little bit of everything on
 > it, Everything from .GIF's, to Utilities...

    Just thought I would interject... VGA Spectrum 2 (note: TWO) is NOTHING
like VGA Spectrum 1. I was greatly dissapointed by the fact VGA Spectrum 2
had NO pictures... It did contain a lot of great sound files, and a few
classic shareware games (Apogee stuff).

    Just incase you were thinking of buying the 2nd one, don't unless you
like sound related stuff.

                                                Chris

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 488
  To: RON RICHMOND                             Date: 06/06/93  6:49p
Subj: Re: Cd rom drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Hi Boris, I want to say thanks for the CD Rom drive. It
>>    arrived in good shape 8 days after I ordered. Not bad for
>>    U.S.A. and Canada Post offices. I was very impressed with the
>>    way Texel ( & you) packaged everything to protect it.I'm
>>    listening to a Neal Young CD on the drive, as I type this. How
>>    much would it cost for the cable to connect the back of the CD
>>    Rom drive to my Sound Blaster Pro card ? That is the only
>>    thing I missed with the kit.The CD Rom drive was pretty much
>>    Plug and play. The sound card had a lot of conflicts with my
>>    system. Works now though.   Thanks,

Ron, gald to hear it !!  The sound cable would be $12. plus shipping,
if your interested, please drop us a note or call us direct and we'll
be happy to help.

Boris Osadciw

... Xpress Yourself!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 489
  To: NILL TOULME                              Date: 06/06/93  6:49p
Subj: Re: CD SYSTEMS SPECIAL                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Quoting Boris Osadciw's message of 06-01-93 to All, in
>>    pertinent part:

 BO>> Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $14.0
>>                                   ^^^^^^^^^^

>>    Is that really v1?  I think the current version is 1.5.


Yes, the covers are maked 1.0, but the cd's are 1.5. Guess Toolworks didn't
want to spend the money on a reprint.

Boris Osadciw

... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 490
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 06/07/93  1:12a
Subj: Re: can...                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Can somebody give me the price of "Encycopedia of Clipart"

Price $29.   Interested ?? Give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime
and well be happy to help.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 491
  To: TOM MILLER                               Date: 06/07/93  1:12a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Changer                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Does Any one have a good price on a Pioneer 604x Changer With
>>    The drivers Like to install on my BBS.

>>    Thanks

Sure do !!! We have the DMR-600 priced at $799. and the DMR-604X
priced at $1199. These are bare drive units and come with drivers,
RC Cables, Magazine and Manual.

If your interested, please feel free to give us a call at
216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 492
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/07/93  1:12a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
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********* E N C Y C L O P E D I A   O F  C L I P A R T *********
  500+ Megs Pf Pure DTP Power - BBS Ready - Over 11,000 Files
    NO DUPS - Over 30 MEGS Color Art - Plus True Type Fonts
                     Most Files - 92' - 93'
                        Price - $29.00

     This should be the HOTTEST Clipart CD of the year !!
Call 800-243-0517 or for technical information call 216-225-3263
anytime 23.5hrs a day 7 days a week and we'll be glad to assist you.



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 493
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/07/93  1:01a
Subj: TOP 5 SHAREWARE CD'S                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS*
**************************************************************************
MS*                    TOP 5 BEST-SELLING SHAREWARE CD'S!
MS*
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Mr. Shannon, Would you please send me one of your catalogs.

Richard Bunton
311 Grand
Belton, Mo. 64012-1432

Richard...
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From: RICHARD KRUGER                         Number: 494
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/04/93  8:15p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Jim,
Thanks for your prompt reply. Its highly appreciated.
My Address:-

Rand Datasystems Technology CC
P.O Box 6468
Greenhills
South-Africa
1767

I'm interested in all makes of CD Roms and drives available. Please add a
small description if possible. I'm ready to import as from the end of next
week. +/- from (14-06-1993)
If any other supplier read this message and would like to send me a catalog
and pricelist please do so. Also send me the purchase details like cash 14
days 30 days etc. also bank details for the transfer of funds. I would like
to have your Fax number to fax orders.
Thank you very much
Keep well
Richard

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From: TOM MILLER                             Number: 495
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/07/93  2:16p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Changer                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

thank's for the note will be calling very soon

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From: ROGER COLLINS                          Number: 496
  To: KEN CARPENTER                            Date: 06/07/93  3:35p
Subj: CorelDraw 3.0 CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KC>I am trying to get a good price on CorelDraw 3.0 can anyone help. I ha
KC>Word for Windows/Bookshelf92 if anyone is interested in a trade
KC>otherwise a good price will do fine.

I'd be interested in buying your Word for Windows/Bookshelf CD for cash.
How much you want? You may call me at 614-793-7291 if you'd like.



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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 497
  To: DANG NGUYEN                              Date: 06/06/93 10:18p
Subj: Supplier                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DN>I am interested in pressing a CD and was wondering if you could forward
  >any info any distrubutors and suppliers.  Any information would really
  >be appreciated.

Sorry, Dang, but I don't have any contacts that could help you with
pressing CD's.  Maybe somebody else here can help.  Good luck!

                                                        Jim...

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From: CURT LARSON                            Number: 498
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/07/93 12:46p
Subj: Need a SCSI CD-ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking to buy an external, fully daisy-chainable, preferably new SCSI
CD-ROM drive.  Speed is of no essence and I don't necessarily need to
controller.  Please respond here or call [phone].  Thanks.

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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 499
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/06/93 11:15a
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>BH>Please send me a catalog too.

JL>Sure thing, Brian.  Thanks for your interest!

PLEASE SEND ME A CATALOG TOO!

MIKE PETRO
2803 EMERSON RD
GREENSBORO NC 27405
THANKS...........
 ■ QMPro 1.01 22-2345 ■ Time flies like wind.  Fruit flies like pears.


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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 500
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/06/93 12:33p
Subj: Re: adult CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

===========================================================================
Packet: ANSWER
Date: 05-27-93 (03:17)             Number: 33
From: BORIS OSADCIW                Refer#: NONE
  To: DEAN SCOTT                    Recvd: NO
Subj: Re: adult CD's                 Conf: (11) CDROM_Sale
>Dean, we carry on of the largest selection of adult titles around.

CAN I ALSO GET A CATALOG
MIKE PETRO
2803 EMERSON RD
GREENSBORO  NC  27405

THANKS...............
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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 501
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/06/93 12:39p
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

**** E N C Y C L O P E D I A   O F  C L I P A R T *********
  >  500+ Megs Pf Pure DTP Power - BBS Ready - Over 11,000 Files
  >    NO DUPS - Over 30 MEGS Color Art - Plus True Type Fonts
  >                     Most Files - 92' - 93'
  >                        Price - $20.00

BO>     This should be the HOTTEST Clipart CD of the year !!
  >Call 800-243-0517 or for technical information call 216-225-3263
  >anytime 23.5hrs a day 7 days a week and we'll be glad to assist you.



BO>Boris Osadciw

ARE THE CLIPART IMAGES 300 DPI? I WAS DISAPPOINTED WITH ALL THE 75 DPI
ON CLIPART GOLIATH. AT LEAST IT HAD SOME 300 DPI. ANY WAY I'M
INTERESTED, PLEASE SEND INFO.
        THANKS, MIKE PETRO..............
 ■ QMPro 1.01 22-2345 ■ Thesaurus: ancient reptile with an excellent
vocabulary


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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 502
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/06/93 12:48p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>DB>Add me to your list please.

JL>You got it, Dennis.  You should see it in the mail real soon.  Thanks
  >for your interest.


I WOULD ALSO LIKE A CATALOG PLEASE.

MIKE PETRO
2803 EMERSON RD
GREENSBORO NC 27405

THANKS........................MP
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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 503
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 06/06/93  1:03p
Subj: CDROM Retailer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GH>Like many people here, I am also a CDROM retailer.

PLEASE SEND ME A CATALOG. DO YOU HAVE A PCX CLIPART DISK WITH ALL 300
DPI OR BETTER?
              MIKE PETRO
              2803 EMERSON RD
              GREENSBORO NC 27405

THANKS............
 ■ QMPro 1.01 22-2345 ■ Dogs come when you call. Cats have answering
machines.


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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 504
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  1:13p
Subj: CD CATALOGS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TO ANY AND ALL.

        PLEASE SEND CD CATALOGS INCLUDING ADULT TITLES!
I AM ESPECIALLY INTERESTED IN HIGH QUALITY CLIPART FOR DTP.

SEND TO:
        MIKE PETRO
        2803 EMERSON RD.
        GREENSBORO NC 27405

THANKS...................
 ■ QMPro 1.01 22-2345 ■ »∞√╘╘h╖ñ ÄC■hanks for hanging up, dear.


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From: STEVE LIN                              Number: 505
  To: REN JUST                                 Date: 06/06/93  7:47p
Subj: LINUX CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
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 > LINUX, a UNIX operating system workalike now available
 > on CD-ROM.  Includes GNU C/C++ compiler, X-Windows,
 > TCP/IP, sound card support and much more.  Only $49.95.

When you say "much more", are you talking about just the basic LINUX setup,
or lots of stuff enough to fill the CD to 600+ Mb?

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From: KAWAI WONG                             Number: 506
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/07/93 12:43p
Subj: Re: CD Specials                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Do you carry Busty Babes and Ecstasy??  If so, how much are they?  Thanks.

... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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From: MARK SMITKA                            Number: 507
  To: RICK ASHWORTH                            Date: 06/06/93 10:44p
Subj: 7th guest trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Quoting Rick Ashworth's message to Bill Henderson, in pertinent part:

RA}I'll swap you a brand new Bible CD (9 bibles, 20 references..) for T7G

You sound like just the kind of player Trilobyte had in mind when they
created T7G.  :-)


===
 * WinQwk 2.0 a#720 * Just got a new car for my wife... Great trade.

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From: BILL ROPER                             Number: 508
  To: BOB HART                                 Date: 06/07/93  6:20a
Subj: WANTED:CD ROM DRIVE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I am looking for an ext. cd-rom drive; used or new it
-> doesn't matter,and if possible around $200.


I have a Hitachi 1503S external drive that was used on my
bbs.  Replaced by a 1600S.  No scratches, worked fine on
my board for about 6 mos.

No cable, no adapter card.   $120.00.

Bill Roper
903-534-0567 voice


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From: BILL ROPER                             Number: 509
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 06/07/93  6:25a
Subj: GEEZ                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> particular state, depending upon what sort of mail and delivery syste
-> your local net is using.  I expect this echo will cost me about $1.50
-> per month, probably less.  If I couldn't afford this hobby, I wouldn'
-> be in it...

according to my echo billing program, it cost $0.41 for a full
month, so the cost isn't a really big factor, but I too, get
a little irritated when 25 out of 30 messages are "send me a
catalog....".

but then to have the perpetrator of this thread thank each of
the respondents individually, is just a bit too much...

Bill..


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 510
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  7:51p
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 June 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 6/06
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                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 7th Guest (Wow!)..............55.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...44.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........37.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 American Business Phonebk 1...19.00    Mother of All Clipart (New!)..24.00
 American Business Phonebk 2...28.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Amiga AB20....................16.50    National Business Directory...39.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.50    National Parks................32.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.50    Night Owl 4.2.................22.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Night Owl 5.0.................23.00
 Audubon's Birds...............27.00    Night Owl 6.1.................24.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............27.00    Night Owl 7.0.................25.00
 Barney Bear School or Space...22.00    Night Owl 8.0.................33.50
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 7/8 2-Pak...........55.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 5/6/7/8 4-Pak.......99.00
 Bible Library.................31.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Bibles & Religion.............16.50    North American Fax Book.......49.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Ocean Digital Imagery.........45.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Original Shareware 1992.......18.00
 Business Master...............20.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...25.00
 C User's Group Library........31.50    Our Solar System..............16.50
 California Collection.........17.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....33.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    PC-SIG #10....................28.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-SIG #12....................30.00
 CD-PowerBox...................23.00    PC Gameroom...................28.50
 CD-ROM Grab Bag (4 CD's)......29.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CD Grab Bag (1 CD)............19.00    Phoenix 3.0...................21.50
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pier 1........................29.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........24.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............45.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....54.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (New!)......28.00
 Clipart Galore................32.50    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........128.00
 Clipart Goliath...............16.50    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........29.00    Programmer's MegaPack (New!)..34.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............16.50    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Complete Bookshop.............16.50    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Composer Quest................38.50    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Compton's Interactive Ency...109.00    Publisher's Paradise (New!)...35.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....79.00    Reader's Library..............32.50
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....79.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Conan the Cimmerian...........35.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....38.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....39.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...43.00
 Crossword Cracker.............24.50    Sci-Fi (GIF's & Sound)........28.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! I...........20.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! II..........25.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......16.50    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Shareware 1993 (Closeout).....18.00
 Desktop Bookshop (New!).......28.50    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Dictionaries & Languages......16.50    Shareware Online (All 1992)...29.00
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Shareware Overload............16.50
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Shareware Studio I............21.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Studio II (New!)....27.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

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 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
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 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 511
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  7:51p
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 2/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 June 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 6/06
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                                   2 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......28.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound (New!)..22.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    So Much Shareware I...........22.50
 Font Master I.................19.00    So Much Shareware II..........29.50
 Font Master II................28.00    Software Vault I..............25.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    Software Vault II (New!)......29.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Sound Sensations..............16.50
 Front Page News...............26.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Game Master...................20.00    SoundWAV (New!)...............29.00
 Game Pack II..................27.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Games 1993 (New!).............28.00    Space Quest IV................25.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    Sporting News.................26.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................25.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Global Explorer (New!)........97.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Street Atlas USA..............88.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Super CD......................25.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Super CD II (New!)............29.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Super Games For Windows.......18.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...27.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........37.50
 Hacker Chronicles.............27.00    Technotools...................16.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................16.50    Tempra Access Photo Software..32.50
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 House of Games................29.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Illustrated Holy Bible........49.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Too Many Typefonts............16.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Toolworks Ill. Ency. 2.0......39.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Toolworks MM Ency. 5.0........49.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Toolworks MPC Ency. 1.0.......49.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Total Baseball................35.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 King's Quest V................25.00    VGA Spectrum I................17.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    VGA Spectrum II...............25.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    Visions of Saturn (New!)......25.00
 Library of the Future #1......54.50    Vital Signs...................39.00
 Lion's Share..................28.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Window Master.................20.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........39.00    Windoware.....................16.50
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windows 1993..................28.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Windows Shareware Gold........37.00
 Magnum One Shareware..........29.00    Wing Commander II Deluxe......58.00
 Manhole.......................37.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Marketing Master 1992.........19.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    WizPak........................17.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............35.00    World Atlas MPC...............29.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00    World Traveler (New!).........19.00
 MIDI Music Shop...............32.00    World View....................24.00
 Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50    World Vision 3-Pak (New!).....47.00
 Monarch Notes.................64.00    Wrath of the Demon............38.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 512
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  7:51p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 June 1993                ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 6/06
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    Porkware II (New!)............37.00
 Animation Fantasies I.........30.00    Private Collection I..........35.00
 Animation Fantasies II........30.00    Private Collection II.........35.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Busty Babes...................33.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics I............33.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Giffy Gold ("R"-rated)........39.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........59.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......28.00    Seymore Butts Interactive.....65.00
 Moving Fantasies..............30.00    Smutware......................32.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....65.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).65.00    Storm I.......................25.00
 Nix Pix Hot Pix 2.............34.50    Storm II......................30.00
 Nix Pix Hot Pix 3.............34.50    Storm III.....................31.00
 Nix Pix Hot Pix 4.............34.50    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 PC-PIX 1......................33.00    Swimwear & More (New!)........29.00
 PC-PIX 2......................33.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 PC-PIX 3......................33.00    Tropical Girls (Closeout).....25.00
 PC-PIX 3-Pak..................89.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 Physical Therapy..............22.50    Volcano.......................36.00
 Porkware......................37.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

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 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
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 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 513
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  7:51p
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISONS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

------------------------------------------------------------------------
                SHAREWARE CD-ROM DUPLICATION COMPARISONS
------------------------------------------------------------------------
           Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.0

PR1 = PIER1                PR2 = PIER2                 NO7 = NIGHT OWL 7
SS1 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 1   SS2 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 2    NO8 = NIGHT OWL 8
SC2 = SUPER CD 2           SV1 = SOFTWARE VAULT        CDP = CD POWERBOX
SWO = SHAREWARE ONLINE     MON = MONSTER DISC

           % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
          ---------------------------------------------------
     PR1   PR2   NO7   NO8   SS1   SS2   MON   SC2   SV1   CDP   SWO
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
PR1| .06%| .23%| 1.8%| 6.5%| 3.2%| 7.2%| 7.6%| 6.5%| .70%| 2.1%| 4.5%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
PR2| .23%| .00%| .09%| .43%| .34%| 2.5%| 1.7%| .85%| .40%| .18%| .19%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
NO7| 1.8%| .09%| .06%| .57%| 5.0%| 7.4%|34.0%| 9.9%| 1.2%|77.3%| 7.0%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
NO8| 6.5%| .43%| .57%| .24%| 1.4%| 7.0%| 4.9%|46.3%| 1.0%| .89%| 1.8%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SS1| 3.2%| .34%| 5.0%| 1.4%| .15%| .16%| 7.6%| 3.4%| 2.3%| 7.3%| 7.4%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SS2| 7.2%| 2.5%| 7.4%| 7.0%| .16%| .01%|14.8%|11.3%| 4.7%| 7.2%| 7.1%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
MON| 7.6%| 1.7%|34.0%| 4.9%| 7.6%|14.8%| .91%|15.4%| .54%|24.2%|19.1%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SC2| 6.5%| .85%| 9.9%|46.3%| 3.4%|11.3%|15.4%| 1.3%| .70%| 9.0%| 2.9%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SV1| .70%| .40%| 1.2%| 1.0%| 2.3%| 4.7%| .54%| .70%| 2.6%| 3.3%| 1.1%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
CDP| 2.1%| .18%|77.3%| .89%| 7.3%| 7.2%|24.2%| 9.0%| 3.3%| .23%| 7.0%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SWO| 4.5%| .19%| 7.0%| 1.8%| 7.4%| 7.1%|19.1%| 2.9%| 1.1%| 7.0%| .84%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+

        PRICES
        ------
        PIER 1..............29.00      PIER 2..............45.00
        NIGHT OWL 7.........25.00      NIGHT OWL 8.........33.50
        SHAREWARE STUDIO 1..21.00      SHAREWARE STUDIO 2..27.00
        MONSTER DISC 2-PAK..44.00      SUPER CD 2..........29.00
        SOFTWARE VAULT......26.00      CD POWERBOX.........23.00
        SHAREWARE ONLINE....29.00

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 514
  To: JASON BUCHANON                           Date: 06/06/93  7:51p
Subj: CD Powerbox disc                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JB>Hey Mike!

JB>Thanks for sending that powerbox disc so fast!!!  Your right......... it
is a
JB>good disc!  I was wondering though, why is this disc so much cheaper than
the
JB>night owl while its so much higher quality?

JB>Somewere i was reading about a new disc called "cream'n your jeans" or
"cream
JB>of the crop" or something like that.... do you know anything about it?
How
JB>mych is it?  Is it worth the money?

Jason,

Thanks very much for the order.  I'm glad you like it;  CD Powerbox is among
our best-selling shareware CD's.  Look for the new CD Winbox soon.  It will
most likely be the best Windows CD to ever come out!  Should have them any
day now.  Sorry, I haven't heard anything about the other CD you mentioned.
"Cream'n your jeans" huh?  Must be a new adult title. <g>

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 515
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/06/93  7:51p
Subj: Message                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>Mike:

BJ>the message you said you sent. On the other hand, I read this echo from
two
BJ>different BBSes and they never seem to have exactly the same new messages
in
BJ>them, so maybe your message went into some electronic gazooland. Gimme a
BJ>shout if you ever recover to the point where we can proceed. Cheers!

Yeah, sorry about that Bob.  I've been uploading to a local board here in
Yakima (not the blank-generating board).  Anyway, his board is prone to
locking up, and lots of my messages haven't been exported lately.  I'm
going back to Dave Reed's board until they get the problems worked out.
Dave's board is much more reliable.  Yes, if and when I get more of those
critters in, I'll be sure to send you one for review.

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: SHELDON KOEHLER                        Number: 516
  To: TYLER A. WUNDER                          Date: 06/06/93 12:00a
Subj: CD-ROMS FROM WITHIN I                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TAW> BJ>> Since a standard audio CD can only hold about 60-65 minutes of
music,

TAW> PO> Actually 74 minutes.

TAW>     Are you sure?  I just picked up the Jethro Tull 25th Anniversary
Boxed
   >set, and I would swear one of the disks is in the high side of the
seventie

TAW>     Yep.  Just slipped disk four in and it's 77:45.  I think I have a
few
   >others of similar length, as well.

I was under the impression that audio CD's were a maximum of 79:59. I
may be wrong...

 * QMPro 1.02 41-6493 * Don't even think of putting a tagline here.


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 517
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/06/93  1:47p
Subj: Re: I am looking...                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> >>    I am looking for a cdrom that has clipart that I could use
-> >>    with my word processors and dtp programs
->
->
-> >>    sincerely
->
-> Vito, we have several of them as well as the NEW "Encyc Of Clipart",
-> is a bbs ready cd. If your interested, please feel free to give us a
-> at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further.
->
-> Boris Osadciw
->
-> ... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
-> --- FMail 0.94
->  * Origin: Buggie Works - The CD-ROM Outlet [phone] (1:157/46)

I'll do that


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From: JOHN DECARLO                           Number: 518
  To: ANDY YEE                                 Date: 06/07/93  6:59p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On <Jun 04 22:37>, Andy Yee (1:134/2001) wrote:

 AY >intersted in selling Fao?

Yup.

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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 519
  To:  JIM LAMBERT                             Date: 06/07/93  9:48a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL*Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
  *Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address,

*****************************************************************************

Please send me one of your catalogs.

Richard Bunton
311 Grand
Belton, Mo. 64012-1432

Richard...
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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 520
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/07/93  9:52a
Subj: Re: CD SYSTEMS SPECIAL                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********  Original Msg. From: BORIS OSADCIW   To: NILL TOULME    *******

BO* Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $14.0

*****************************************************************************

NT* Is that really v1?  I think the current version is 1.5.

*****************************************************************************

BO* Yes, the covers are maked 1.0, but the cd's are 1.5. Guess Toolworks
didn't
BO* want to spend the money on a reprint.
BO*
BO* Boris Osadciw

*****************************************************************************

Boris,

I might be interested in the above disk, (Groiliers Encyc $50.00).
DOS Version.

Also...Do you have the new movie disk, (movie Mania or something
like that), with reviews of over 15,000 movies. If so, what is the
price...??? DOS Version.

What would be the shipping price for both disks...??? for one disk...???

Also I would like one of your catalogs.

Richard Bunton
311 Grand
Belton, Mo. 64012-1432

Thanks a MEG.

         * ***** *** **** **  **  ****  ***** *****
      <*\  ****  *  *     ****   ****   ****  *  *
       >\  ** ** *** **** **  ** **  ** ** ** *****   PAX...

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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 521
  To:  GABE HOWARD                             Date: 06/07/93 10:07a
Subj: CDROM RETAILER                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GH*If you would like a catalog of over 400 CDROM titles.....

*****************************************************************************

Please send me one of your catalogs.

Richard Bunton
311 Grand
Belton, Mo. 64012-1432

Thanks a MEG.

         * ***** *** **** **  **  ****  ***** *****
      <*\  ****  *  *     ****   ****   ****  *  *
       >\  ** ** *** **** **  ** **  ** ** ** *****   PAX...

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From: BRYNE BOTTOMS                          Number: 522
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/07/93 12:42a
Subj: catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jim, I would like a catalog sent to me at the following address:
Bryne Bottoms
D 5018 43st
Red Deer, AB, Canada
T4n 5J4
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From: BRYNE BOTTOMS                          Number: 523
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 06/07/93 12:43a
Subj: catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Gabe, I would like to recieve your catalog.
Bryne Bottoms
D 5018 43st
Red Deer, AB, Canada
T4N 5J4                  Thanks
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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 524
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/07/93 12:01a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

In a message of <02 Jun 93  21:41:01>, Michael Benge (1:133/716) writes:
 >> I have Giffy Gold,
 >I have Physical Therapy, volume 3, an almost exact duplicate of XXX
 > Interested?
No, I have had Extreme, Thanks though!


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 525
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 06/07/93 10:56a
Subj: 7th guest trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <03 Jun 93  14:40:00>, Paul Janel (1:2613/220) writes:
 >Hi, what is 7TH Guest?
7th Guest is THE CD-Rom game of all time (so far). It is full of video,
sound effects. Actors were hired to do the acting on the Cd. It's supposed to
be one hell of a game where they went all out and took advantage of the
capacity of a Cd. Orchestrated music, etc. This game is supposedly a reason
to buy a Cd-Rom machine.
 >Is it a shareWare cd?
Far from it. It costs at least around $50.


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 526
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/07/93 11:01a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <02 Jun 93  06:41:00>, Terry Woodward (1:369/14) writes:
 >ARL is just another Adult Gif disk. It has more 800x660 pics than some
 >others. I've sort of got it reserved for Bob Jackson.
 >I'd like to get your Giffy Gold. I'll be delighted to send you
 >the PC-Pix, volume 2. Leave me an address or go ahead and send the Giffy
 >Gold disk. My address is:
OK, well, Giffy Gold is on its way to you via 3rd class mail. I would
appreciate you sending Pc-Pix immediately to Ryan Denke, 5030 E. 19th,
Casper, Wy 82609. Thanks!


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 527
  To: CAMERON SLYE                             Date: 06/07/93 10:29a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MB> I have Physical Therapy, volume 3, an almost exact duplicate of XXX
 MB> Extreme that I would trade for the above.  I  bought this one at
 MB> comdex, and did not realize it duplicated extreme, so it is in perfect
 MB> condition.  Interested?

    CS>If you were to seel it, how much?

Not sure.  Prices have dropped so much recently, think I would rather trade
it that sell it and try to buy something else.

 * MKRead v1.01 * Shell to Dos...Come in Dos...Do you copy?


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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 528
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 06/07/93  6:31a
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MW> You think the case/power supply and cables are  free??  I  would
 MW> love to have and  external case/power supply and cable  set  for
 MW> $20, it is a good deal.
Terry this was my part of the message, I was not ragging on you about your
prices, it was someone else and I was replying that they overlooked something
in the calculations that had typed in. No sense in tearing up somebody that
is defending you dude..

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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 529
  To: JOHN HUGHES                              Date: 06/07/93  5:53a
Subj: OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JH>JC>The OED II at about $895 U.S. is one disc. There was an earlier
two-disc
JH>  >DOS version (only the original OED, none of them OED II updates). If
you
JH>  >are going to spend that kind of money, make sure you are getting the
OED
JH>  >II. Cheers!

JH>Thanks for your nice reply, but I didn't send the question.  Puzzling ?

Well, John, I'm working with a still-new (to me) off-line reader and
that could be the problem. Or I could have just screwed up -- again.
At any rate, thank you for your nice reply and I hope whoever was asking
got the info. Cheers!
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From: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                      Number: 530
  To: DAN WAGNER                               Date: 06/07/93  5:21p
Subj: Re: THE 7TH GUEST.                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Dan,

        I already beat the game and discovered that the game's ending is
incredible, Actually the best game I've ever played!!! Back to your friend on
the stone puzzle. He needs to select the stones that contain one color and
make it to the other side. Hope I helped a little. And with the microscope, I
was disappointed when I ran into this one because it's not really a puzzle
it's actually another game of strategy. There isn't really a way to help on
this one. The only thing I can tell you is to practice and find some
strategy. That's how I did it. Also tell your friend not to skip any puzzles
or else he or she will not be able to see the ending. (it's great!) Need
anymore advice, feel free to write back. I'm glad someone decided to write
back. L8Tr!!!

                                                Jerry Gerolymatos
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 531
  To: ROBERT DU GAUE                           Date: 06/07/93  5:25a
Subj: Re: RE: CD-Rom Changer ?                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 03 Jun 93  08:57:09, I heard Robert Du Gaue shout to Kevin Plummer:

On 03 Jun 93  08:57:09, I heard Robert Du Gaue shout to Kevin Plummer:

RD>  KP>Can anyone tell me where I can get a CD-Rom Changer ?  I think thats
RD>  KP>basically what they are, You can place about 6-8 CD's in it, and
access
RD>  KP>them all at any given time ??  Any help would be helpful, I seen One
at
RD>  KP>HamFest in Indy, and would like to find another.
RD>
RD> I got a Pioneer 6-disk DRM-600 from Dirt Cheap Drives in Computer
RD> Shopper for $829.
RD>
RD> It's the slower model, but for a BBS I don't think it makes a big
RD> difference, since the software (which I wrote) uses HD catalogs and
RD> stages all xfers to an HD/RAM parition.

Do you remember who in the shopper had them ??  I seen a Pioneer for $600 at
a
Ham fest, and Now I wish I would have gotten it.
              Thanks !!


                             .......|<evin

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From: STEVE HOLSTEIN                         Number: 532
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  1:02p
Subj: cache                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

       Hi, I was wondering if CD-Speedway and all the other CD cache programs
work equally well?

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 533
  To: PHILIP CANTERBURY NORMAN BATES           Date: 06/07/93 11:17a
Subj: Re: CD disk resellers                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <06-05-93 02:20> Philip Canterbury Norman Bates wrote:

PC>>  I would like to get some infomation on becoming a cd rom distior or
PC>> reseller.

Call TradeSHows at 317-651-1223 and they will help you get started--They have
over 500 dealers that they supply.

All the Best,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 534
  To: MIKE PETRO                               Date: 06/09/93  9:02a
Subj: CDROM Retailer                          Refer: 3945
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> THANKS............

Mike, don't post multiple "send me a catalog" messages... Only do so
once.

tim
moderator
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 535
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  8:53a
Subj: CD-ROM Extravaganza!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

                       PERKE INDUSTRIES
                         602-898-3669
                       VISA/MC Accpeted!
                       (No Extra Charge)

        Now has the following GRAND OPENING specials!
        ---------------------------------------------

Mitsumi CD-ROM: This is the PREMIER economic CD-ROM player!  Features
350ms speed, Kodak CD compliant and comes with adapter card and all
cabling.  Check out this price................................$185.00

                   -= Shareware Studio 2 =-

Release number 2 of a shareware disk that would run GREAT with the
above drive!  Newly pressed in May 1993!!
                     Unit Price.................................$15.00
                     Price with the Mitsumi.....................$10.00

                    -= CD PowerBox 1.01 =-

Slated to be the new industry standard, the PowerBox is over 650 megs
of shareware!  This disk actually has BOTH a Windows-based and a
DOS-based Graphical User Interface!  Forget the Nightowl series, the
PowerBox offers an affordable option.  (For an AWSOME combo, try the
PowerBox WITH the Shareware Studio!)
                    Unit Price.................................$15.00
                    Price with the Mitsumi.....................$10.00

                       -= CD WinBox 1 =-

This is THE Windows disk available today!  Supporting Win3.x AND the
new Windows NT, the WinBox has over 630 Megs of pure Windows
shareware.  Use the Windows based installation program to quickly
start accessing this disk with its Windows Graphical Interface!
                    Unit Price.................................$24.95
                    Price with the Mitsumi.....................$10.00

VISA/MC accepted with NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE!  We also offer complete
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 536
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93  8:58a
Subj: CD-ROM Extravaganza!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                        PERKE INDUSTRIES
                          602-898-3669
                        VISA/MC Accepted!
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Hardware
--------
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When you buy the Mitsumi you will be entitled to a CD-ROM
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Shareware
---------
CD PowerBox 1.01....................................$19.95
CD WinBox 1.00......................................$24.95
    (BRAND NEW - JUST RELEASED JUNE 7, 1993!)
Shareware Studio 2.00...............................$19.95
Shareware Concept...................................$15.95
SMC 14,000 Shareware................................$15.95

Entertainment
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Interplay's Battle Chess............................$21.95
ICOM Sherlock Holmes................................$21.95
Beauty and the Beast................................$21.95
Sleeping Beauty.....................................$21.95
Mantis Exp. Fighter.................................$21.95
CMC Sherlock........................................$21.95
Mario is Missing....................................$25.95
CD Game Pack II.....................................$23.95
ChessMaster 3000....................................$25.95
Loom................................................$31.95
Monkey Island.......................................$31.95
Secret Weapons Luftwaffe............................$31.95
Wing Commander......................................$31.95
CMC Beyond Wall of Stars............................$31.95

Sound
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Killer Tracks (music)...............................$15.95
SFX-300 Sound Effects...............................$15.95
501 Sound Wave #1...................................$15.95
Music Traks Pro (music).............................$21.95

Graphics/DTP
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Kodak Photo-CD Access...............................$21.95
Publish It!.........................................$31.95

Adult CD
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After Dark..........................................$25.95
Oriental Garden.....................................$40.95


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From: SCOTT ELMORE                           Number: 537
  To: GREGORY YERXA                            Date: 06/08/93  3:15a
Subj: Cds                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GY >    What is the Phoenix one?

    It is I believe a 650 megh shareware disk.... Price: $20.00

                                    --Scott

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From: MARK STAYT                             Number: 538
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/05/93  2:40p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Jim!

Monday May 31 1993, Jim Lambert writes to All:

 JL> Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
 JL> Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, and we'd be
 JL> glad to get one right out to you.  Thanks!

Ok here goes,

Mark Stayt
Advanced Support Services
P.O. Box 5691
Weltevreden Park
1715
South Africa

Regards
Mark

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From: FRANSCOIS JOOSTE                       Number: 539
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 05/27/93 10:54p
Subj: ORDER PLACED                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>Boris Osadciw

BO>... What is OS/2 in Spanish - dos DOS?
BO>--- FMail 0.94 BO> * Origin:
Buggie Works - CD-ROM'S International [phone] (1:157/46)

Boris,I don't know if you remember the order I placed with you ,but up
till now I have not recieved anything yet ! (a month so far)

I'll appreciate it if you could Fax me the shipping details and date etc
so that I can look into it from this side.
Fax to Active Systems 27-2231-71829

Thanx

Franscois
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From: FRANSCOIS JOOSTE                       Number: 540
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/07/93 12:43a
Subj: ORDER                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>Boris Osadciw

BO>... Who Killed Superman?
BO>--- FMail 0.94
BO> * Origin: Buggie Works - CD-ROM'S International [phone] (1:157/46)

Boris,

I'll apprecaite it if you could check up on my order placed (and paid
for) more than a month ago, and let me know asap !

Overseas post does not take that long (I even paid for express
delivery) and newer Shareware CD's are already available.

Thanx

Franscois
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From: SABINE VAN DEN AUDENAERDE              Number: 541
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/04/93  9:04a
Subj: Is this "service" ???                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike,

My guess is that you are not at all interested in overseas customers ... not
even with a VISA-card! I've been waiting over two weeks now for a
netmail-reply ...

How else could one explain that you did not reply to my netmail inquiring on
prices INCLUDING SHIPPING AND HANDLING and IMPORT-fees to Belgium. This adds
to the costs and I would like to know how much more it will cost me !!!

Nor did you reply to a FAX-message of Nancy Verbrugghe, Coming Out!-BBS, who
was informing on sysop-deals and almost ready to order!

I think it's time that Mark Abbacchi and Karen give us some more quotes on
prices ... They do appreciate overseas customers.

What's the matter with you ... had enough of earning some cash? You sure
don't seem very trustful to order some goods of. If you can't answer to our
enquiries now .. how long will it take then to send us the CDROMS, huh
??????? Got an answer for this?

TO ALL DEALERS WHO WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH CUSTOMERS IN BELGIUM and give
sysopdeals, pleeze send me a message, preferable netmail. I have VISA. And
I'm a sucker for good CDROM-deals ;) Looking at the moment for a package deal
on Pier1+2 & Night Owls 8 ... and maybe Busty Babes ... I need to know all
extra costs you will bill for S/H and export-rights before I order ... I
think Mike charges about 89 US$ for this tri-pack without S/H etc. Anyone?
And who ships with DHL ?

I will gladly inform our belgian CDROM.B area of your prices, and maybe we
could organize a group-order ... I've taken it on me to promote CDROM in our
Belgian CDROM.b area ... I'm also very active at reviewing the latest CDROMS
in our local CDROM-area!

No greetz to ya, Mike! Lotta words but poor action if you ask me!

Sabine Van den Audenaerde
Co-Sysop of The Last Picture Show
Co-Sysop of Coming Out!

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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 542
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 06/07/93  9:27p
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to Joseph Thomas, Jim Reed said:
JR> JT> JR>      in doing this.  BTW it does require unplugging the speakers
JR> from
JR> JT> JR>      the Soundblaster and plugging into the drive, but if this is
JR> reall
JR> JT> JR>      problem free I may buy a second set of speakers.
JR> JT> JR>                                 /JIM/
JR> JT>                  Are you saying, just pluging speaker to the
JR> JT>         controller card, we can play cd ? Jim, pl. give us more
JR> JT>         Tnx.

JR> Hi Joseph;
JR>         My drive (Internal) has a headset jack on the front.
JR> I unplug
JR>         the speakers from the SB and plug them into the
JR> front of the
JR>         drive itself.  The speakers are very inexpensive
JR> KOSS powered
JR>         stero speakers.  I don't remember how much I paid
JR> for them but
JR>         think it was around $40.  I set the speaker volume
JR> control about
JR>         mid range and use the volume control on the front of
JR> the drive.
JR>         The PLAYCD utility has a full set of standard
JR> playback controls
JR>         i.e. stop, pause, play, back-a-track, fwd-a-track,
JR> and a few
JR>         others.  Only conflict I have run into so far is
JR> that when I
JR>         start an upload it turns off the music, real strange
JR> since when
JR>         I download it remains playing.  That's about
JR> everything I know
JR>         about it.  There is a small section in the manual
JR> that describes
JR>         it but then who reads manuals.
JR>                                 /JIM/

JR> --- FidoPCB v1.3 [NR]
JR>  * Origin: The GIFfer in Tampa, FL USA [phone] USR
JR> 16.8DS (1:377/50)
        If you have a Sound Blaster Pro or better you can look on the back
of you cd drive for a space that reads something like audio out (I can't
remember what it says), after you find that look on you soundblaster card
for a CD IN it is kind of small ┌────┐ about that small
───────────────────────────────────────────>└────┘. Sorry about the grammer
on the last section there I couldn't remember the keys for the lines. Well,
that's it for now:) whoops forgot the rest. Once you find the two areas I
just mentioned connect them with a cable and bravo you have cd audio. If you
do it the above way you can record samples off of CD's too. Well, that it
for now. Later...
                                        Josh
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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 543
  To: SAM FERTITTA                             Date: 06/07/93  9:31p
Subj: 7th guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Sam Fertitta said:
SF> Now that I have finally gotten a CDRom, I am quite anxious
SF> to get some used CD's. SOme for dad, some for the kids. The
SF> kids would like Sherlock Holmes 2, or 3, Mammals,
SF> Karyndia(?), Dinosaurs, or any others that might come to
SF> mind. For dad, well, any xxxx-rated cd's out there?

        You might like to get The Seventh Guest, your kids might not like it
but it is the most impressive game out right now.  later...
                                                Josh
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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 544
  To: CRAIG LARSEN                             Date: 06/07/93  9:36p
Subj: Will it work on SBPRO?                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Craig Larsen said:
CL>                                 Multimedia Kit


CL>    * Talon Internal CD ROM Drive
CL>       --- Made by Texel  This is the same drive NEC uses for
CL> their 84J Model
CL>       --- Photo CD Compatible
CL>       --- 64k Buffer
CL>       --- Multispin
CL>       --- 280ms CD ROM
CL>       --- 300k Transfer Rate

CL>    * SoundBlaster Pro Compatible Board

CL>    * Amplified Stereo Speaker Set

CL>    * Headphones

CL>    * Installation Guide

CL>    * CD ROM Titles included:

CL>       Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
CL>       Software Jukebox
CL>       Guinness Disc of Records
CL>       The Animals
CL>       National Parks Guide
CL>       Sherlock Holmes
CL>       Mayo Clinic Health Guide


CL>                        All for $649 Including Shipping !

CL>                       First Three Customers get $10 off !


CL> Call 1-800-473-8330  (voice 24 hours)  Leave a message
CL> w/your voice #.

        I assume that you can use these with an existing Sound Blaster card.
I have the upgrade kit but can't stand how slow the CD that came with it is.
later...
                                        Josh
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 545
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/07/93  8:39p
Subj: BUSTY BOX INSERTS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Did you get my message about needing 2-3 BB jewel box inserts? I need
just the paper inserts, not the boxes or the contents - I have both <G>.
If you're able, pop 'em in an envelope and send to the address you have
on file for me. <G> <G> <G> !!!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 546
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/07/93  8:29p
Subj:  Florida Lion's Den In In               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LN> I am in love with the CHINON 535 series ROM drive--I want one, N
 LN> The hell with Texel drives....


Ooooooooooh! Tell me more. I was sorta saving up for a fast Texel 'cuz
the word on the street is they're the cat's moew. Are you saying the
Chinon machine is better/faster/???
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 547
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/07/93  8:35p
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISONS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> ----------------------------------------------------------------
 MS>                SHAREWARE CD-ROM DUPLICATION COMPARISONS
 MS> ----------------------------------------------------------------


Great job, Mike! (Even if the figures are a bit suspect - shouldn't the
diagonal be either 100% or "N/A" or something besides what it shows?)
You've given some real added value to the shareware CD buyers!
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From: GEORGE MAYS                            Number: 548
  To: JOHN HUGHES                              Date: 06/07/93 10:02p
Subj: Re: Oxford english dictionary           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Thanks for your nice reply, but I didn't send the question.
 >  Puzzling ?
 >

You are probably seeing messages from someone else with your name.
 Refer to the Origins line to determine where the message originated,
and if it did not originate at your node or point, ignore it.

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From: JOHN DECARLO                           Number: 549
  To: ANDY YEE                                 Date: 06/07/93  9:59p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On <Jun 04 22:37>, Andy Yee (1:134/2001) wrote:

 AY >intersted in selling Fao?

Yes, sale or trade.  Make an offer.

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From: BOB SPILLERS                           Number: 550
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/07/93  6:55p
Subj: Need To Know                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I want to get involved in CD ROM. What I need to know is what I need to
get started. I have a 386-40 with a 256 MB hard drive and 4 MB ram. From
what I've observed on this echo I think I will need a Sound Board,
Speakers, and a drive. Is this correct or do I need other things? If
someone could set me straight on this and give me a ballpark figure on
costs, it would be appreciated. Should I get internal or external and
what are the advantages or disadvantage of the two? The CD ROM would be
for personal entertainment only and not for business. I have a 5 1/4 bay
open if it would be better to get and internal.

                                        ITKU  RwS

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From: KATHI WEBSTER                          Number: 551
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93 12:50a
Subj: New board online                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The Godfather BBS is now echoing this conference.


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 552
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93 10:27a
Subj: CD-ROMS, CHEAP                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Fellow BBS'ers
I have recently purchased a group of "very good condition" used
Hitachi CDR 1503S external CD-ROM drives. I have checked each unit
and refurbished them as needed (which was very little).  I am
offering some of these drives for sale for a unbelievable price.
These units work excellent for BBS systems, and as stand alone
units for home use. I have used 3 of these refurished drives for
the past 2 years, and have NEVER had a failure!
These drives are not high speed, so they are not suited for
use with the new CD-ROM game packages, which must use a 350ms
access time or better.
If you are interested in one or more of these drives, please
contact me at my BBS listed below. I know you can find NO deal close
to what I am offering, so they will be first come, first serve
basis only. Please note the following specifications for the drives,
and that the are warrantied for 30 days by me, for cash refund,
repair of the unit, or replacement with another but please remember
that I am not in business of selling these drives, however, I feel
that they are such a good buy, why not offer them to others
SysOp's.

I have received another 10 drives in good to excellent condition.
Hitachi CDR 1503S (CADDYLESS) external CD-ROM drives. Please note
that up to four of these drives can be daisy chained (as I use them)
together to create one massive file collection.

Prices:
Bare drive, no controller, or cable............$106.00
SCSI proprietary controller card................$71.00 (8 bit card)
Cable for drive.................................$18.00
All price are plus tax and shipping! And include manual,
drivers, and software installation instructions.

If you are interested, I would suggest contacting me immediately
at our BBS, because quanities are limited!
Matt Bedtelyon - SysOp
MEG*A*BITE BBS (WildCat! all the way!)
P.O. Box 21
Essexville, MI 48732-0021
517-892-5042, 2400 baud
517-892-5079, 14.4 USR
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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 553
  To: BRANDAN UPSON                            Date: 06/06/93  1:56p
Subj: Hard drive                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I am wanting to trade anyone a brand new 170MB Hard drive for an
-> internal CD Rom drive. If interested, post back or call [phone]

I have a internal Hitachi which I would be willing to trade if you are
interested.  Fido 1:239/675
Matt Bedtelyon
SysOp - MEG*A*BITE BBS
Essexville, MI


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 554
  To: KURT ANNO                                Date: 06/06/93  9:09p
Subj: Used CD-Rom                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I am looking for a good used CD-Rom or a cheap new one.

Hi Kurt,
I have some used Hitachi 1503S externals for sale.  My BBS number is
[phone], 14.4.  They have worked well for me for the past 2
years. They are not fast, but they are not expensive either!
Matt Bedtelyon
SysOp - MEG*A*BITE BBS
Essexville, MI


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 555
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/06/93  9:13p
Subj: Hitachi CDROM drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Hi all!  I need to know if rumors I have heard are true.
->
-> 1) 1 Hitachi CDROM proprietary controller handles 4 Hitachi Drives
->
-> 2) You can have 4 Hitachi controllers in the same machine giving you
-> CDROM drives.......

Hi James,
I sell used Hitachi, and that is true. I have someone running 8 drives
on one system with 2 cards and it works great.  We sell the Todd
Enterprizes interface cards, and they are configurable.
Let me know if you need some drives or controller cards.
Matt Bedtelyon
SysOp - MEG*A*BITE BBS
Essexville, MI [phone] 2400
               [phone] 14.4
Fido 1:239/675


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From: RON GAGE                               Number: 556
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/06/93 10:51p
Subj: Hitachi cdrom drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Hi all!  I need to know if rumors I have heard are true.
->
-> 1) 1 Hitachi CDROM proprietary controller handles 4 Hitachi Drives
-> 2) You can have 4 Hitachi controllers in the same machine giving you
-> 16 CDROM drives.......

The controller for the CDR-3600u can handle 8 drives by itself.  It is also
fully backwards compatible all the way to the old CDR-1503s drives.
 As for number of cards per machine, all I can tell you is that there are 7
selectable addresses on the card.  There are also no IRQ selects or DMA
selects on the card.  In theory, this means 7 cards per machine or a
theoretical max of 56 CDROM drives in one machine.  Now, as for a practical
setup...

BTW, I believe that Hitachi uses what is called the Phillips BUS.  Just a
small point of fact, maybe.  <grin>

So, are you looking into picking these drives up?  I am still looking for a
source for 4 new or used CDR-3600u drives without control cards.

Ronald R. Gage
Sysop, Sound Power Systems
Voice - [phone]


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 557
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/08/93  3:31p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive 4 Sale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00

Both Drives Include:  60 Day Warranty, External DIP switches, True 50 pin
  SCSI, 350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, newest ROM
  installed.  Diagnostic/cleaning done by service center.  NO special
  drivers required.  5.25 - Half Height Drive. Dust Flap.

205-837-5053 -=- Leave Message if not home, it WILL be returned -=-

Michael Konor, AMIGA_CDROM Co.Moderator



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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 558
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/07/93  5:47p
Subj: SUM NU STUF!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>5.  MY FIRST TIME - Full length adult feature film on CD starring Nikki
MS>    Dial.  Similar to Rimfire Pacific, except you don't need Windows
MS>    for this one!  2-CD set = 80 minutes.  ** $65.00 **

What resolution? Is it at least 320x200 or is it as small as Rimfire?

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From: GREG ARMENIA                           Number: 559
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/08/93  5:14p
Subj: The Pier Shareware CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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                                              *                        *
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                                              *                        *
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 The Pier Shareware #2 CD-ROM Features:       *    Programing Tools    *
                                              *   SVGA  GIF Pictures   *
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 * 661 Megs of files                          *  Games / Entertainment *
 * <ASP> directory                            *   Sound Blaster /MIDI  *
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   (Smart Date Checking in place)             *          Bible         *
 * THE PIER retrieval software contained      *    Medical / Health    *
   on the CD-ROM (easy file access)           *     Word Processing    *
 * All files have been scanned for            *   Laser/Printer Utils  *
   viruses with the latest McAfee SCAN        *  BBS  Programs / Doors *
 * Full GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat!      *      Communications    *
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 * <ASP> directory
 * 99% files dated 1992, 50% newer then 8/92
   (smart date checking in place)                    IS0 9660
 * Pier1 retrieval software contained
   on the CD-ROM (easy file access)
 * All files have been scanned for
   viruses with the latest McAfee SCAN
 * Full GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat!
   BBS Support
 * Less then 1% duplication between
   Night Owl 7 and 16% Night Owl 8

       Disc Sold Separately

        The Pier Shareware #1 - 29.00     30 Day Money Back
Guarantee!!!!
        The Pier Shareware #2 - 49.00


 Order by voice, FAX, or BBS online ORDER door. The cost of the CD-ROM
 is only $49.00 plus $5.00 shipping & handling, ($8.00 overseas). We
 accept all major cerdit cards, check, and money order. Checks and money
 orders must be US funds and drawn on  US banks. Make checks payable to:
 The Pier Exchange, 128 Carmel Rd., Buffalo NY 14214


                ORDERS ONLY 1 - 8 0 0 - 4 3 8 - 9 7 3 4


 The Pier Exchange, 128 Carmel Rd., Buffalo NY 14214, BBS 716/875-3130
 14.4 BBS 716/875-0283 16.8, Information or FAX [phone] RIME ->1376


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From: THE SISTER                             Number: 560
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/08/93 12:53p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM CATALOG                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 RB> @MSGID: 1:280/[e-mail] 63923273
 RB> JL*Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from
 RB> Computer *Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address,
Jim-
        Thank you for your prompt reply to my request for a Catalog. I will
look thru it and contact you again!
                                Joannine Gesualdo

... ... A fool and his money are SysOp material.
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From: THE SISTER                             Number: 561
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 06/08/93 12:56p
Subj: Re: CDROM RETAILER                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Gabe-
        Could you please send me a copy of you Adult Titles, Cd- Rom. I run
an Adult BBS and I would like to get a new Adult Cd Disk to use online. I
currently use Storm 3.
                        Joannine Gesualdo
                                Snail Mail  P.O. Box 21041
                                Des Moines, Iowa, 50321


... MONEY TALKS ...   but all mine ever says is GOODBYE!
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From: AN PHAM                                Number: 562
  To: DANG NGUYEN                              Date: 06/07/93  6:37p
Subj: Cd Distrubutors                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

What kind of CD are you trying to press?

An Pham
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From: AN PHAM                                Number: 563
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/07/93  6:43p
Subj: Strip Poker CD-ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anybody know where to buy and the price for the Strip Poker VGA CD-ROM
version game? I'm interested in the game and have seen it once a long time
ago but forgot its specific name. It had very good graphics but I don't know
the exact name. If anybody know where to buy the game, please reply. Thanks.

An Pham
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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 564
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/08/93 10:56p
Subj: Florida Lion's Den In                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

|LN> Did worse then than...I attended the CES show in Chiacago              |
|LN> last week too. Darn, how did I miss so many people.... I               |
|LN> hung out at the TradeShows booth...I will be at the next               |
|LN> COMDEX show (not Canada in July) cuz' I will be pulling                |
|LN> handles in 'Vegas--But I will be at the next COMDEX and CES            |
|LN> show--WOuld love to meet you !                                         |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
I missed you too.  Checked at the TradeShows booth on Mon, Tue, and
Wed......oh well........Picked up a BB while I was there.
___
 X MegaMail 2.10 #0:Psychoceramics: The Study of Crackpots.

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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 565
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 06/08/93 11:01p
Subj: mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

|JS> >SA>The 350 Mitsumi drives can be run off the Aztec Sound              |
|JS> >SA>Galaxy NX-Pro, or  >SA>the ATI Stereo F/X Cd sound card. I         |
|JS> >SA>have either one. The Aztec is $150                                 |
|JS> >SA>andthe ATI is $160.                                                |
|JS>                                                                        |
|JS> So which one would you recomend for overall performance?-Thank for any |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
I talked to both of these companies at COMDEX.  The ATI kills the
soundblaster for sound reproduction.....no tin can sounds.....and has
a much more powerful amp that that SB.  If I remember correctly both
of these use wave tables for sound reproduction.  The next one I get
will be the ATI......Heck they gave me a Shirt.
___
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 566
  To: SAM FERTITTA                             Date: 06/08/93  6:05a
Subj: Re: Looking for cd's                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Lookig for used cd's, or prices on new.
> Loom, Sherlock Holmes #2, Arthurs Teacher Trouble, Dinosaurs. Also Busty
> Babes and Ecstasy.
FREQ CATALOG from 1:138/116 and you will see that most of them in the catalog
and very reasonable priced. TTYL

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From: SCOTT STADLER                          Number: 567
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/08/93  8:39a
Subj: pricing                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris,  What is the price you would charge for a Toshipb 3401 internal
Pro Audio Spectrum card, and all controllers and cables necc. for
both music cd and cdRom sound, as well as some inexpensive shielded
speakers.  thanks Scott

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 568
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/07/93  7:13a
Subj: Pioneer Special                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>Pioneer DMR 600 - 600ms / 150kps - bare drive  - PRICE $ 799.00
  >Pioneer DMR 604X -350ms / 600kps - bare drive  - PRICE $1199.00

 Boris,
        Have you heard any dates on the triple-cartridge (18cdrom)
changer being developed by pioneer? Any word on price? thanks
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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 569
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/08/93  1:13a
Subj: Private Pictures CDROM                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have one copy of the cdrom disc Private Pictures for sale.
70 mini-movies and hundreds of x-rated GIFs.  No poster.
Buyer must be over 21, COD not acceptable.

For sale for best reasonable offer.

              Carlos
                   Netmail        1:125/17
                   BBS            415-641-0348
                   Voice          415-647-2881

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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 570
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/08/93 11:03a
Subj: Cd's...                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'll keep an eye out for your next listing, since I haven't seen one lately.
I hope it fits within the columns so I can read it.  Thanks for your efforts.


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From: GORDON IRELAND                         Number: 571
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/08/93  1:22p
Subj: Comdex                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Could someone please tell me when the next COMDEX will be.

I believe it will be in Las Vegas and need to know exact dates.


Thanks,
Gord
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 572
  To: BOB HART                                 Date: 06/07/93  6:46a
Subj: WANTED:CD ROM DRIVE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BH>I am looking for an ext. cd-rom drive; used or new it
BH>doesn't matter,and if possible around $200.

Perke Industries offers the Mitsumi 350ms BRAND NEW for only $185.00 (plus
shipping)  VISA/MC accepted for no additional charge.

This comes complete with adapter card and all necessary cables and software.

Our grand opening special offers your choice of the following if you buy the
Mitsumi:

CD PowerBox    $10.00    CD WinBox $10.00    Shareware Studio 2  $10.00

David Thomas
Perke Industries
602-898-3669


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Your CD-ROM source for the 90's!
- JetMail v1.12 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire
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From: DONALD MACKAY                          Number: 573
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/08/93  8:32p
Subj: Re: Cd rom drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In order not to offend Donald Mackay spoke softly ->


Hello Boris,
    I am looking for some info in the area of CD ROMs.  I really don't
know very much about the CD interface methedology. I am looking for
either a SCSI CD ROM and Adaptec SCSI 2 controller pair or a CD ROM that
is either proprietry or IDE (if there is such a beast) that will work
with OS/2.1. I would like a drive that will work with my Soundblaster
ASP16 board as well.
    What would you suggest and what do you have available? What
kind of performance are we talking about?ttyl /usr/dan
___
* UniQWK v2.0 * The Windows Mail Reader


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From: ROY PARK                               Number: 574
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/08/93  8:05a
Subj: ADULT CD CATALOGUES!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Dealers:  Please send me calatgues on Adult CDs available, including
ordering information, price, S&H, and etc.  The address is:

Roy Park
101 Louis Pasteur, #72
Ottawa, Ontario
K1N 9N1
CANADA
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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 575
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/09/93 12:13a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>
**************************************************************************
MS> June 1993                ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update:
6/06
MS>
**************************************************************************

Hey Mike, at one time a few weeks ago I offered you a brand new 420 meg
Fujitsu HD for a bunch of your ADULT CDROM's.....you never did say
whether or not you were interested in trades.....

james
 ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Who said that Interstellar Empires don't exit?


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From: JIM DOWLEY                             Number: 576
  To: REX OSBORNE                              Date: 06/08/93 12:16p
Subj: PROCOMM                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LAST NIGHT I ENTERED THE BB AND FROM PROCKOMM AND ALL I GOT WAS A BUNCH
OF NUMBERS AND LETTERS. WHEN I HUNG UP THE COMPUTOR TOLD ME
THAT I HUNG UP  WRONG. I WAS JUST TRYING MY CKOMPUTOR SKILLS OUT
    JIM DOWLEY
SZ
V
   WING RKON RONG KOKOMPUTOR TKOLD KOMP L


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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 577
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/08/93 12:56a
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: [phone]
                      International 314-521-4862
              We have the following specials this week ONLY!

Software Vault II    $24.00  JUST Released!  8000+ Files All the latest!
                             Predominantly 1993!  Completely BBS ready
                             and compatible!


Shareware Studio II  $29.00  JUST RELEASED!  640 Megs of Shareware,
   With another disk $19.95       Advanced front end interfacing.
                                  Files.bbs in each directory and
                                  separately!
                                  Don't miss this opportunity!


SwimWare 1993  $29.00  **NEW** 1500+ photos of beautiful women in bikinis
                      and lingerie.  Nothing more than PG-13 but all
                      excellent quality GIF files in 640x480 and
                      1024x768 resolution.  Completely BBS ready!

Games 1993     $25.00  **NEW** 6000 files... Completely BBS ready and
                      most of the games are from Jan/Feb/March 1993.
                      With only the classics being older.

Star Trek/     $25.00 1200 GIF photo's of Star Trek, The Next
Fantasy               Generation, Star Wars,  100+ sound files, Fantasy
                      Creatures, Dungeon's and Dragons, Conan, Star Trek
                      Games.  NEW AND COMPLETLEY BBS READY!

House of       $25.00 Over 200 of the latest shareware games, most
GAMES                 playable from the CDROM.  Excellent menu that
                      breaks the games down into Categories!

Monster Disk II            $39.00        Fontmaster II CD Library   $20.00

Mega ROM 2                 $20.00        PC Sig 12                  $22.00

   FIVE STAR PREMIUM Windows!!!!   $39.00   6000+ of the latest Windows
                                         files available!  Completely
                                         BBS ready, with PCboard style
                                         and Files.bbs descriptions!

   FIVE Star Premium DOS!!!        $39.00   6000+ GREAT DOS files.. ALL 92
                                         and 93 FILES!!! Files.bbs and
                                         PCBOARD file descriptions!

                          $69.00 for the set!
                   Caddies $2.99 with purchase!

*********************************************************************
               All prices in effect thru 6/14/93
   VISA          1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M        MASTERCARD
                 1
              ---- 100s of Titles Available ----



 * WCE 1.02/2072 * Look Ma!  My first tagline....


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From: LEWIS BULLARD                          Number: 578
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/06/93 10:42a
Subj: FOR SALE                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



Need to sell my system for fall tuition. PB Legend 920 (486sx), 4meg ram
onboard vga, PB vga monitor, 124 meg IDE Seagate, 2400 baud modem, bus mouse,
Magnovox CDD 461 cd-rom and cd audio player with  set of aiwa speakers with
amps, Logitech 32 grayscale hand scanner with interface card, dual disk
drives,
will include 6 cdrom disks with purchase at asked price of $1300. Great setup
for DTP. Lewis 405-357-5942 in the pm or echo back.

... Double your harddrive space -- delete Windows!!!!
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From: LEWIS BULLARD                          Number: 579
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/07/93 10:36a
Subj: FOR SALE                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



Need to sell my system for fall tuition. PB Legend 920 (486sx), 4meg ram
onboard vga, PB vga monitor, 124 meg IDE Seagate, 2400 baud modem, bus mouse,
Magnovox CDD 461 cd-rom and cd audio player with  set of aiwa speakers with
amps, Logitech 32 grayscale hand scanner with interface card, dual disk
drives,
will include 6 cdrom disks with purchase at asked price of $1300. Great setup
for DTP. Lewis 405-357-5942 in the pm or echo back.

... Double your harddrive space -- delete Windows!!!!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: WARREN DANIO                           Number: 580
  To: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                         Date: 06/08/93  1:20p
Subj: CD ROM DRIVES $130 EACH                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JC > NP> And YOU are selling them for $600?  Such a deal! <Sigh!>

JC > Before you make fun of somebody's message why not take the
JC > time
JC > to read AND UNDERSTAND it first.  It went on to say that
JC > for $600
JC > it includes a CASE, and CABLES, and SHIPPING.  I have
JC > bought 2 of
JC > these in the past from Terry and I highly recommend Terry
JC > Blount
JC > to anybody.

         SHE IS PROBABLY A BLONDE!!!!  NUFF SAID

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 581
  To: SABINE VAN DEN AUDENAERDE                Date: 06/08/93  6:56p
Subj: Is this "service" ???                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Sabine!

Friday June 04 1993, Sabine Van Den Audenaerde writes to Mike Shannon:

 SVDA> My guess is that you are not at all interested in overseas customers
...
 SVDA> not even with a VISA-card! I've been waiting over two weeks now for a
 SVDA> netmail-reply ...

 SVDA> How else could one explain that you did not reply to my netmail
 SVDA> inquiring on prices INCLUDING SHIPPING AND HANDLING and IMPORT-fees to
 SVDA> Belgium. This adds to the costs and I would like to know how much more
 SVDA> it will cost me !!!

 SVDA> What's the matter with you ... had enough of earning some cash? You
sure
 SVDA> don't seem very trustful to order some goods of. If you can't answer
to
 SVDA> our enquiries now .. how long will it take then to send us the CDROMS,
 SVDA> huh ??????? Got an answer for this?

In defense of Mike, he posts from my system, and he does NOT have NetMail
access.  The off-line mail reader he uses does not support it.  You should
instead be blaming me for not forwarding the messages to him in a local
message area, but he still would not be able to respond, as I'm not going to
pay to crash you netmail, and RC17 has determined that routed NetMail is NOT
to be used for business purposes (and I agree with him).

I'm sorry you didn't get a reply, and I want you to realize that it's not
Mike's fault.

Dave Reed
CD-ROM International

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 582
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/08/93  7:01p
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISONS                Refer: NONE
Read: 06/10/93  7:34a                       Private: No

Hello Tim!

Monday June 07 1993, Tim Helton writes to Mike Shannon:

 ->> % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
 ->> -+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-

 TH> That's good stuff... Thanks for the post.

Is Mike sucking-up again?  ;-)


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From: WARREN DANIO                           Number: 583
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 06/09/93  2:27a
Subj: GEEZ                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KR > months would be eaten up in one phone call during business
KR > hours to the
KR > US.  This is probably true for many sysops who do not live
KR > in your
KR > particular state, depending upon what sort of mail and
KR > delivery system
KR > your local net is using.  I expect this echo will cost me
KR > about $1.50
KR > per month, probably less.  If I couldn't afford this hobby,
KR > I wouldn't
KR > be in it...

KR >           Kirk Rawnsley
KR >           Rules are for Other People
        I.M.H.O. RESELLERS WHO ASK PEOPLE TO REPLY IN THIS ECHO
        FOR A CATALOG ARE JUST FREELOADING OFF THE SYSOPS AND DRIVING
        AWAY CASH CUSTOMERS WHO GET DAM TIRED OF "SEND CATALOG TO"
        ANYBODY HAVING A REAL BUSINESS SHOULD HAVE AN 800 #....

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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 584
  To: DAN WAGNER                               Date: 06/08/93  1:09p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST.                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to Jerry Gerolymatos, Dan Wagner said:
DW> Hi Jerry,
DW> I saw your message asking for help in the 7th guest. Since
DW> your near the
DW> end I think you can help my friend, he says hes stuck by a
DW> secret room
DW> before the microscope puzzle and he has to solve some
DW> puzzles with
DW> stones in the floor (I hope thats descriptive enough), also
DW> he cant
DW> figure out the microscope puzzle with the viruses. Can you
DW> help?

DW> Regards
DW> Dan Wagner
DW> --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta
DW>  * Origin: VC BBS - Rosettenville, R.S.A. - [phone]
DW> (5:7101/66)
DW> 151/1003 3641/1
        Well, I'm not Jerry but I can help. The room that has the stone
floors is easy once you know what the point is, all you have to do is
conplete the puzzle stepping on as many stones as possible when you finish
there should be four stones left (I think). The Telescope isn't a puzzle so
you can't get someone to help you on it, but if your friend keeps having
trouble tell him that if he hasn't used the book for anything else to go to
the book of clues three times and it will instantly be solved. Well, that
covers all of your questions. later...
                                             Josh
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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 585
  To: JOSH BERRY                               Date: 06/08/93  1:24p
Subj: sorry                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JB> IN it is kind of small ┌────┐ about that small
JB> ───────────────────────────────────────────>└────┘. Sorry
        Whoops. That was supposed to be a rectangle but the thing word
wrapped after I saved it. Sorry if you couldn't make that out. later...
                                        Josh
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From: CARLOS RODRIGUEZ                       Number: 586
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/09/93  7:08a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISO                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>           % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
  >          ---------------------------------------------------
  >     PR1   PR2   NO7   NO8   SS1   SS2   MON   SC2   SV1   CDP   SWO
  >   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
  >PR1| .06%| .23%| 1.8%| 6.5%| 3.2%| 7.2%| 7.6%| 6.5%| .70%| 2.1%| 4.5%|
  >   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
  >PR2| .23%| .00%| .09%| .43%| .34%| 2.5%| 1.7%| .85%| .40%| .18%| .19%|
  >   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
  >NO7| 1.8%| .09%| .06%| .57%| 5.0%| 7.4%|34.0%| 9.9%| 1.2%|77.3%| 7.0%|
  >   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+

Am I reading this chart correctly?  I'm not trying to be a smart ***
but looking at pr1 compared to pr1, shouldn't it be 100% duplicate
files since it is the same CD?  Same for pr2, and no7?  The way I'm
reading it, pr1 compared to itself only duplicates .06%, pr2 to itself
.00%, and no7 to itself .06%!  It looks like a very informative chart
but I can't figure out if I'm reading it right!  Please explain b/c I'd
like to use the chart.

Carlos
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From: STEPHEN GUPTON                         Number: 587
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 06/09/93 11:44a
Subj: CD-ROM Extravaganza!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Jun0911:44, Dave Perkovich of 1:161/205 writes:

 DP>                     -= CD PowerBox 1.01 =-
 DP>
 DP> Slated to be the new industry standard, the PowerBox is over 650
 DP> megs of shareware!  This disk actually has BOTH a
 DP> Windows-based and a DOS-based Graphical User Interface!
 DP> Forget the Nightowl series, the PowerBox offers an
 DP> affordable option.  (For an AWSOME combo, try the PowerBox
 DP> WITH the Shareware Studio!)
 DP>                     Unit Price.................................$1
 DP> 5.00
     Is this the correct version number? I have 1.00 dated 1993.

 <*=- Stephen -=*>

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 588
  To: SABINE VAN DEN AUDENAERDE                Date: 06/10/93  7:27a
Subj: Is this "service" ???                   Refer: 3983
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> No greetz to ya, Mike! Lotta words but poor action if you ask me!

Don't use this echo to vent hostilities.  Pick up the damn phone & call
Mike if you're having trouble with his service...

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 589
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93  9:10p
Subj: Info                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sen.

United States Senate
Washington, D.C.

Dear Senator:

    I am writing to you as a constituent to inform you of my views
regarding S.1521, the most recent anti-pornography bill. It is my
hope that the views of people such as myself will be sufficient to
urge you to oppose the bill.

    S. 1521 permits the imposition of punishment--rendering the
publishers of work deemed "pornographic" subject to paying damages
for the mere publication of written or visual materials-- on a
civil scale, penalizing those who speak on the wholly unproven
theory that this kind of speech "causes" rape. Such punishment for
speech is simply wrong, for several reasons:

    1)It is unconstitutional. Even though the bill is limited to
speech which would fall into the class of speech called obscene,
currently held to be outside of the First Amendment's protection,
the Supreme Court has recently held that it is improper to punish
even constitutionally unprotected speech because of its viewpoint.
R.A.V.v. City of St. Paul. By choosing some "obscene" speech as fit
for punishment while leaving the rest alone, this bill violates the
Court's ruling in RAV--the only reason the speech is punished is
because the image of sexuality it portrays, not because it is
obscene.

    2) Even if it were constitutional, it goes against the
foundation of America's system of government: that people are free
to choose between conflicting ideas. By saying that pornography
"causes" rape, the bill denies the free will of each and every
citizen, diminishing us to the level of idiots who do whatever we
are told is good by some publisher. By denying the ability of
people to choose, this bill denies the only possible ground for a
right to choose how to live our own lives.

    3) The bill negates the basic principle that each person is
responsible for his or her actions, but not for someone else's. By
saying that ideas in porn may be abused by the audience member who
decides to rape, the stage is set for full censorship. If any
speaker is liable for the harm done by those who abuse his or her
ideas, who will be free to speak?  Porn is no different from any
other kind of entertainment that way -- murderers often imitate TV.
Is Matlock the next to go?

I sincerely urge you to vote against this dangerous bill.

Yours truly,
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 590
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/08/93  8:24a
Subj: Re: Adult cd's to swap                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 06 Jun 93  09:11:00, I heard Terry Woodward shout to Kevin Plummer:

TW> Thanks. I'm up to my ears in Shareware disks. Want to trade for the
TW> volcano disk? Send to:
TW> Terry Woodward
TW> Suite 294
TW> 2269 S. University Drive
TW> Davie, Fl 33324
TW>
TW> Leave me an address and I'll send the cdrom. Which disk was it that you
TW> wanted?

Terry,

  Okay, What disk did you have again ??  And Once I get your Reply Back, I
will ship the disk that day...

                                       .......|<evin

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From: DEAN SCOTT                             Number: 591
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/20/93  6:30a
Subj: Used CD's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

         I'm looking for some good, used adult cd-rom's. I'm looking in
         perticular for Storm ]I[, Ectasy, Nix Pix 1-4, Giffy Gold and
         Hot Pix 1-4.

        If you have any of the above and are willing to part with them,
        write me back and quote me a price.

        Later,
        Dean Scott

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From: FRANK SERENO                           Number: 592
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/08/93  8:29p
Subj: Re: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISONS            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS>
 MS> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
 MS> - SHAREWARE CD-ROM DUPLICATION COMPARISONS
 MS> -!---------------------------------------------------------------------
 MS> - Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.0

Well, I had originally written a response and quoted part of the comparison
chart by the characters didn't line up the same as the original.  Everyone
is going to have to check the next or last chart to see what I am saying.
In the chart, each disk is compared against itself and a value is listed.  It
has been a while since I have studied math (calculus to be more precise), but
I believe that any disk compared against itself should have a value of ONE
HUNDRED PERCENT.  I have to question the accuracy of the comparisons against
other disks if the program cannot get this value correct.  At least one disk
came up as having 0.0% duplications and most them came up as having less
than 1%.  Those values must be 100% or they should have some sort of null
symbol placed in that square.

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 593
  To: BRANDAN UPSON                            Date: 06/08/93 12:29p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Call me voice at [phone]. Very interested in making the
 > trade.

It's gone already.

Chris

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From: LEE HICKERSLY                          Number: 594
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/08/93  5:36p
Subj: .TXT files                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Is there a cd that specializes in Adult .TXT files? Does anyone have a large
amount of them built up from other cd's? I would like to get like one QIC-40
tape of .TXT files... I will sned the tape, or pay for yours (prefer that)..
                                Thanx
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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 595
  To: GORDON IRELAND                           Date: 06/09/93  9:10a
Subj: Comdex                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 06-08-93 GORDON IRELAND wrote to ALL...

 GI> Could someone please tell me when the next COMDEX will be.
 GI>
 GI> I believe it will be in Las Vegas and need to know exact dates.

Hi Gordon,

I just called the Las Vegas Convention Center Visitor's Info line and they
told me this years COMDEX is from Nov. 15-19. So that we keep the moderator
happy, I buy and sell a lot of CDROM titles (for private use not
commercially.)
Give me a call if you want when you're in the city 877-4907.

>Paul<

... OFFLINE 1.50  "Easy as 3.141592653589..."

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From: CRAIG TIANO                            Number: 596
  To: CHRIS BARRETT                            Date: 06/09/93 10:38a
Subj: asian ladies                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->     Just curious, but where did you get the pictures from? Also, what
-> involved in finding a CD company to produce it. I now have access to
-> Scanjet IIc, own a Logitech Color Handscanner, and I would be interes
-> producing a CD. Or, at the very least starting to produce adult GIFs
-> BBS. I am worried about violating copyright laws and stuff.
You should be concerned. Unless the works of art/pictures/whatever are
yours, or you have a signed release from the artist allowing you to
reproduce the work you could be fined up to $25,000 PER reproduction
and see 5 years of federal jail time PER reproduction. Scanning Playboy
and posting the pics on your board or on a CDROM is an easy way to meet
lots of lawyers, a judge or two, and maybe a "boyfriend named Bubba"...
If you want to produce an Adult CDROM, you better have your own
original material or material from a reliable source who created the
material.  -Craig
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 597
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 06/05/93  9:23a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CS>What is OEM?

Same stuff, different packaging....
I believe it means; Original Equipment Manufacturer

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From: LEE FULLER                             Number: 598
  To: JACK BROWN                               Date: 06/09/93  9:24a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jack,

Please send me your latest catalog, and include any dealer pricing, if
you have any.  Our company is always looking for more suppliers of
quality CD's.  Please include all titles and all subjects.

Take care... and thanks for your assistance!

         Lee Fuller
         SM Computers/Real Life Software
         6160 D-4 Arlington Ave., Suite 272
         Riverside, CA  92504
         [phone]
         [phone] Fax
         [phone] Data/BBS
         [phone] Orders


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From: ANDREW MURPHY                          Number: 599
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/08/93  5:54a
Subj: Gif/Anim disks ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

What is a good video disk for BBS use?  Looking for G Gifs of everything
under the sun.  Animations are optional.  Anyone got any recomendations.
Also looking for an R gif disk.  I have heard Giffy Gold is a pretty
good one.  Any comments on it?  Any other recomendations?

Murf!


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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 600
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 06/09/93 12:03a
Subj: Add size                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CS>Yes Patrick, your adds come across readable now..

Thanks!
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 601
  To: TYLER A. WUNDER                          Date: 06/09/93 12:03a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TW>>> Bible library                                             $26 >> 9
bibles, 27 concordances, 20 ref. works, 2 commentaries, 6 dictionaries, 5
word studies, 3,000 sermon outlines, roughly the equivalent of 134,000 pages.

TW>Bibles & Religion                                         $13 Judaism,
Christianity, Islam. New & Old Testament, Book of Mormon, lexicons,
concordances. Requires you to have knowledge of subdirectories and ZIP
decompression (i.e.; the interface ain't that great!).

These descriptions were taken from a catalog, and are complete (except for
my parenthetical remark)....

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 602
  To: BRIAN MILLER                             Date: 06/09/93 12:03a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BM>Is this the NEW Games 1993 disk that just came out?  If so I want it.

This came out in '92...

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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 603
  To: BOB HART                                 Date: 06/08/93  3:03p
Subj: Wanted:cd rom drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You can get a NEW cd-rom drive with a ok access time (300ms) for $189. If
your looking for ANY computer products, pick up a copy of COMPUTER SHOPPER at
your nearst news stand, it has 800+ pages of dealers selling products! Just
to let you know.


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 604
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 06/08/93  3:11p
Subj: I agree!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I agree, if the "reply to catalog" messages take up to much HD space then buy
a bigger HD. This echo is meant for cd-stuff, and catalogs has alot to do
with it.


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 605
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/08/93  3:15p
Subj: Shareware cd comparisons                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In your next comparison, could you include some windows shareware cds, like
cd-winbox... ect. ? thanks


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 606
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/08/93  3:19p
Subj: Cd powerbox disc                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

COuld you give me some stats on cd-power box? (i'm in the market for the BEST
shareware cd)


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From: ANDREW MURPHY                          Number: 607
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/09/93  6:40a
Subj: FAO Gold                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->  AM> To the people at profit press, I am sorry to have influenced any
->  AM> thinking it wasn't a top notch disk.
->  AM>
->  AM> Murf!
->
->
-> Kudos to you, Murf, for 'fessin up! I like FAO Gold, too. Now if we
-> could just get everyone else in the adult CD biz to be as forthright.
-> --- FreeMail 1.07b
->  * Origin: The Bit Bucket * Houston, Tx * 713/496-9670 * (1:106/9670)
->
Well, if ya step on your hooter, you just have to be happy that it is
long enough to be stepped on! :>


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 608
  To: JASON BUCHANON                           Date: 06/08/93 10:05a
Subj:  TIM HELTON                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


JB> Next time your in seattle you can buy ME breakfast too, but
 JB> it'll be more like $10.50!  :-)  keep buying breakfast and you
 JB> can interrupt my schedule as often as you like.

 You got a deal...  but I doubt I'll be taking 3,000 trips any
 time soon....  but who know?  I have been to Seattle in the past
 I may get there again.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 609
  To: JASON BUCHANON                           Date: 06/08/93  8:10p
Subj: CD Powerbox disc                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


JB> Somewere i was reading about a new disc called
  ....
 JB> "Cream  of the crop" or something  like  that....  do  you  know
 JB> anything about it?  How mych is it?   Is  it  worth  the  money?

  Yes! It is worth the money.  It is a shareware  disc  with  5000+
  high quality files/ no adult or gif files.  It is going for $39 +
  $6 for second day shipping/c.o.d.    If  you  are  not  satisfied
  with the quality of this disc I will allow you to exchange it for
  any Shareware disc I have  in  stock  (about  15  titles).   Call
  205-824-2552

  It also has programs for automatic and instant setup for Maximus,
  Spitfire, RA, Quick BBS and PCBoard.

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 610
  To: EARL BONSER                              Date: 06/08/93  9:52p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -> > I have Giffy Gold,
 -> I have Physical Therapy, volume 3, an almost exact duplicate of XXX
 -> Extreme that I would trade for the above.  I  bought this one at
 -> comdex, and did not realize it duplicated extreme, so it is in
 -> perfect condition.  Interested?
 EB> If he isn't, I am.  Let me know by calling [phone] after 6pm
 EB> EST any evening or anytime on the weekend.


I donn't have access to a LD line for outgoing.  If you have Giffy Gold, and
would like to trade it for my copy of Physical Therapy, you can mail it to
the following address, and I will return mine in trade the same afternoon.
For voice confirmation, you can call 404-763-0000, or fido netmail 7pm-7am.
Answering machine other times.

Michael Benge
4540 washington rd
college park ga 30349.

I will ship priority mail when disc is received, same day.  Hope to hear from
you.

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From: KENNETH WATTS                          Number: 611
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93 10:17p
Subj: CHEAP CDROM DRIVE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a cheap new or used cdrom drive for my 286 12 mhz machine.
Can anyone help me out?

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From: NED ALLISON                            Number: 612
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 06/08/93  7:54p
Subj: MSCDEX PROBLEM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CS->This is a bit out of the Sales area but....Call it customer service..

CS->I have an external Sony CD-ROM that was working fine with DOS6 on a
386DX33
  ->Then I upgraded to a AMI (motherboard) 486DX2-66 Just normal DOS v6 using
  ->MSCDEX v2.20 (in dos v6 package) and get "Incorrect DOS version). Tried
SET
  ->with 3.1 and 4.1 and 5.0 (not all at the same time) with no luck. Any
  ->Suggestions. Thanks

Call MicroSoft for an upgrade to at least v 2.21 on the MSCDEX. -=- Ned


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From: SCOTT ATKINS                           Number: 613
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 06/08/93  6:43p
Subj: Re: mitsumi                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Joe Slifer to Scott Atkins <=-

 >SA>The 350 Mitsumi drives can be run off the Aztec Sound Galaxy NX-Pro, or
 >SA>the ATI Stereo F/X Cd sound card. I have either one. The Aztec is $150
 >SA>andthe ATI is $160.
 JS> So which one would you recomend for overall performance?-Thank for any
 JS> input.

Joe:

Both are Sound Blaster and Adlib compatible.  After reading the features
list of both cards, I would recommend the ATI.   It is also the one that
my Mitsumi distributor has chosen to bundle with their Multimedia drive
package.

Scott
[phone] (PST weekends/evenings)
... "U.S.S. Slifer, lower your shields and prepare to be boarded!"
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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 614
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/08/93 10:48p
Subj: Various                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy Mike,

Could you please give me info on the following titles?
-Readers library
-Reference library
-Shakespear
-Electronic Home Library
-Languages of the World
-Library of the Future #1
-World Atlas MPC

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: MICHAEL P. ALDRIDGE                    Number: 615
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93  7:21a
Subj: CD ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TEXEL CD ROMS available for good prices. All units are double throughput with
excellent access times. prices start at $425.00 and up around $575.00 for the
kits. Also packages are available with CD ROM software. Please leave me a
message if interested.

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From: JEREMIAH CASEY                         Number: 616
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/06/93  7:42p
Subj: Cd-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
JL>Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, and we'd
be >glad to get one right out to you.  Thanks!

DN)JL>                                                        Jim...
DN)  >Computer Works
DN)  >CD-Rom Sales!
DN)  >[phone] Voice
DN)  >[phone] BBS

I would like a catalog

Jeremiah Casey
668 W. Washington #25
El Cajon, CA 92020


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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 617
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/09/93  2:57p
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Mike:

In a msg of <Sunday June 06 1993>, Mike Shannon writes to All:

     <sigh> Despite the fact that no one seems to want to give out any
information on the cds they advertise in this forum, I'm going to ask yet
again for some filling in on the contents of cds that look interesting.

     After all, if I can be interested in the contents of the disk, I MIGHT
BUY IT [not so subtle hint].

 MS>  Bible Library.................31.00
 MS>  Bibles & Religion.............16.50

     What can you tell me about these?

 MS>  CIA World Fact Book...........24.00

     Hmmm...this looks interesting, too.  Anything good here?

 MS>    Shakespeare...................17.50

     Now this REALLY would have been helpful about a year back.  In any
event, I still might be interested in it.  What's on this?  Just his complete
works, and if so, would there be anything there that makes it superior to the
paper version?

     Eagerly hoping I'll get a response.



Tyler A. Wunder

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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 618
  To: SHELDON KOEHLER                          Date: 06/09/93  3:05p
Subj: CD-ROMS FROM WITHIN I                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Sheldon:

In a msg of <Sunday June 06 1993>, Sheldon Koehler writes to Tyler A. Wunder:

 TAW>> Yep.  Just slipped disk four in and it's 77:45.  I think I have a
 TAW>> few
 >> others of similar length, as well.
 SK> I was under the impression that audio CD's were a maximum of 79:59. I
 SK> may be wrong...

     This is in keeping with my observations, as I don't think I own any cds
that have over 80 minutes of music on them.


Tyler A. Wunder

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From: TONY MACE                              Number: 619
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93  1:43p
Subj: Looking For CD Drive                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

Am looking for price quotes on the following drives:

Texel DM-3024 and DM-5024.

Just bare drives, no controller cards, cables, etc.  Already have that part.
Will need drivers if required.  Have PAS16.

Thanks!
Tony

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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 620
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/09/93  9:45p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS>  Nix Pix Hot Pix 2.............34.50    Storm

Mike, do you stock Nix Pix I ?

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 621
  To: MALCOLM KLEU                             Date: 06/09/93 11:22p
Subj: ORDER                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Malcolm,

Thanks very much for the order, but on your original fax, you requested
a "free" CD to be sent with the order.  The only "free" CD we've ever
offered was our Starvector 208mb CD that we were advertising as free with
any order over $100, but we stopped advertising that particular CD over
3 months ago when we ran out of stock.  In your 2nd fax, you asked why
we didn't include the $6 shareware CD.  The reason is that you requested
our "free" CD with your order, which we haven't offered for 3 months.
There was no mention made of the $6 promotional CD in your order.  If you
would still like the disc, it would be $6 + $4.67 Air Mail to Africa.
Let me know.

Hope this clears up your questions.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 622
  To: STEPHEN GUPTON                           Date: 06/09/93 11:22p
Subj: SUM NU STUF!                            Refer: NONE
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SG>     I spoke with 3 differant distributors and all say this disk is hosed
up,
SG>and yet, they were honest enough to point this out rather than just make a

Stephen,

What's "hosed up" about it?  I've sold around 40 of these, and not a single
complaint so far.  The sister CD "Shareware 93" is another story however.
That disc is missing several files AND directories, and I'm now
liquidating them at my cost and telling my customers up front that it does
have some definite problems.  Haven't heard anything negative about Games
93 until now, so can you be more specific than just "hosed up"?

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 623
  To: SABINE VAN DEN AUDENAERDE                Date: 06/09/93 11:22p
Subj: Is this "service" ???                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SVDA>My guess is that you are not at all interested in overseas customers ...
no
SVDA>even with a VISA-card! I've been waiting over two weeks now for a
netmail-r
SVDA>How else could one explain that you did not reply to my netmail
inquiring o
SVDA>prices INCLUDING SHIPPING AND HANDLING and IMPORT-fees to Belgium. This
add
SVDA>the costs and I would like to know how much more it will cost me !!!

If you sent Netmail to Dave Reed's BBS, I didn't receive it because I have
been calling his board infrequently in the past month, and have been
devoting more time to a local board in my town.   We charge actual Air Mail
rates on shipping, which are:  1 lb: $10.70, 2 lbs: 16.70, 3 lbs: 22.70,
etc.  (Keep adding $6 per add'l pound).  Insurance is usually around $3 - $4.

We do take VISA w/ no surcharge, and can ship same day.  Hope this answers
your questions, and sorry about not replying . . . I wasn't ignoring you, I
just never received your Netmail since it wasn't sent to the board I call
most often.

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 624
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/09/93 11:22p
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISONS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ> MS>                SHAREWARE CD-ROM DUPLICATION COMPARISONS

BJ>Great job, Mike! (Even if the figures are a bit suspect - shouldn't the
BJ>diagonal be either 100% or "N/A" or something besides what it shows?)

Bob,

No, the "diagonal" shows the percentage of internal dupes within a given
CD.  Example below:

     PR1   PR2   NO7   NO8   SS1   SS2   MON   SC2   SV1   CDP   SWO
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
PR1| .06%| .23%| 1.8%| 6.5%| 3.2%| 7.2%| 7.6%| 6.5%| .70%| 2.1%| 4.5%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
PR2| .23%| .00%| .09%| .43%| .34%| 2.5%| 1.7%| .85%| .40%| .18%| .19%|

In this example, you can see that Pier1 has a .06% internal duplicate
percentage.  In other words, the program not only shows dupe % between
different CD's, it also shows the percentage of duplicate files
WITHIN each CD.  This is what the diagonal is showing.  Notice that
the only CD to have 0% onboard dupes is Pier 2!  Lovely disc.

Are my figures still suspect? <g>

BJ>You've given some real added value to the shareware CD buyers!

Thanx Bob, I always look forward to your messages when others start
congregating on the "bash Mike" bandwagon.  If I ever become a
comedian, I'm going to hire you to sit in my audiences! <ggg>

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 625
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/09/93 11:23p
Subj: SUM NU STUF!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TW>MS>5.  MY FIRST TIME - Full length adult feature film on CD starring Nikki
TW>MS>    Dial.  Similar to Rimfire Pacific, except you don't need Windows
TW>MS>    for this one!  2-CD set = 80 minutes.  ** $65.00 **

TW>What resolution? Is it at least 320x200 or is it as small as Rimfire?

Terry,

Haven't seen the stats, but the image fills about 50% of my screen.
Motion is real smooth for a DOS-only application, and sound quality on
my inexpensive 8-bit sound card is very clear.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 626
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93 11:23p
Subj: PIER 2 NOW SHIPPING                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

***************************************************************************
  ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ------->> PIER 2 NOW IN STOCK <<------- ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
***************************************************************************

                                PRICE:  $45

 You know the spotless track record of Pier 1 by now, acclaimed by some as
 "the best BBS-ready shareware CD at any price".  Well get ready, because
 its successor is HERE!  Announcing PIER 2.............

           The most up-to-date IBM shareware CD available!
           Almost 5000 files in 50 different categories, with
           75% dated 1993!!   ** BBS-READY **

 * Less than 1% duplication to Pier 1
 * Less than 1% duplication to Night Owl 8
 * All files virus-scanned
 * Fully BBS-ready with support for PCBoard, GAP, Spitfire, and Wildcat
 * EZ file access with the Pier retrieval system
 * Smart-date checking
 * 661mb total
 * Separate directory for A.S.P. software
 * Industry-standard ISO 9660 format

 * ORDER YOURS NOW!!      This WILL BE the HOTTEST shareware CD of 1993!

     NOW SHIPPING...........ORDER TOLL FREE............1-800-767-1284

     Special 2-disc offer:  PIER 1 and PIER 2..................$65.00
     Special 2-disc offer:  PIER 2 and Night Owl 8.............$69.00
     Special 3-disc offer:  PIER 1 / PIER 2 / Night Owl 8......$89.00
     Special 4-disc offer:  PIER 1 / PIER 2 / Night Owl 7+8...$109.00

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 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
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 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 627
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93 11:23p
Subj: CD PACKAGE DEALS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-------------[ CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS ]------------------------------------

1.  Night Owl 5.0            2. Storm 1                  3. PC-PIX 1
    Night Owl 6.1               Storm 2                     PC-PIX 2
    Night Owl 7.0               Storm 3                     PC-PIX 3
    -------------               -------                     ------
    $59.00                      $75.00                      $79.00


4.  Night Owl 7.0            5. Storm 1                  6. Seedy 6-Pak
    Night Owl 8.0               Storm 2                     Seventh Heaven
    -------------               -------                     --------------
    $55.00                      $45.00                      $171.00


7.  Busty Babes              8. CD GamePak 1             9. CD-Powerbox
    Ecstasy Hot Pics            US/World Atlas              Phoenix 3.0
    ----------------            --------------              ------------
    $59.00                      $39.00                      $35.00


10. Pier 1                  11. Pier 1                  12. SUPER CD 2
    Night Owl 7                 Night Owl 8                 VGA Spectrum 2
    Night Owl 8                 Shareware Online            Monster Disc x2
    -----------                 ----------------            ---------------
    $87.00                      $87.00                      $87.00

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

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 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: REN JUST                               Number: 628
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93  8:12a
Subj: LINUX CDROM                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


LINUX AND INTERNET FILES ON CD-ROM

LINUX, a UNIX operating system workalike now available
on CD-ROM.  Includes GNU C/C++ compiler, X-Windows,
TCP/IP, sound card support and much more.  Only $49.95.

Also CD-ROMs available with source code and applications
from internet servers for DOS, UNIX, Amiga, C and Mac.
Call or write for listing.

To receive your LINUX CD-ROM call and order with your
charge card

or send $49.95 + $3.00 S/H (CA residents add 7.25% tax) to:

Just Computers!
PO Box 751414
Petaluma  CA 94975-1414

    707-769-1648
FAX [phone]
Internet: [e-mail] OR [e-mail]

Visa and MasterCard gladly accepted.


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From: BRIAN WHEATLEY                         Number: 629
  To: LEE HICKERSLY                            Date: 06/09/93  9:12p
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You have a backup, full of Adult .TXT files? How many megs did you say 40?
How much would you sell it for? Thanks...
Brian

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From: BRIAN WHEATLEY                         Number: 630
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93  9:22p
Subj: Cd-Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Just wondering everyone, is 700ms to slow to use a CD-ROM for a BBS? Like a
shareware cd, for downloading etc... Thanks...
Brian.

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From: MAHMUT KURSUN                          Number: 631
  To: SABINE VAN DEN AUDENAERDE                Date: 06/08/93  1:06p
Subj: Is this "service" ???                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > My guess is that you are not at all interested in overseas customers ...
 > not even with a VISA-card! I've been waiting over two weeks now for a
 > netmail-reply ...

I'm here in Germany, also accept VISA and have following CD-ROM's
for Sysops/BBS, almost all full and with Files.BBS

 > a package deal on Pier1+2 & Night Owls 8 ... and maybe Busty Babes ... I

-Simtel 04/93       -PCSIG 12           -CICA Windows 04/93
-Nightowl 6.1       -CD Powerbox        -Mega CDROM 2
-Nightowl 7         -Shareware Studio   -Mega Audio/Video
-Nightowl 8         -Phoenix III        -Mega WinOS2
-Pegasus 1.0        -Phoenix II         -SDN 1 Plus

Simtel/CICA for 50 DM Busty Babes and all others for 70 DM incl. EC-Tax,
which is 15% from Germany. Shipping Germany->Belgium surface way is
very low priced, approximate 1 DM each CD-ROM

Kursun CDROM Versand
Karl-Marx-Ring 148
8000 Munich 83
tel: ++49-89-6378421
fax: ++49-89-6378429

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From: TERRY CONRAD                           Number: 632
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93 11:43p
Subj: Hi, CD-ROM Catalogs *WANTED*            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     I would like to recieve come CD-ROM disk catalogs.  Anyone selling CD's
with catalogs please mail them to me:

     Terry Conrad
     2917 Franchel Ct.
     Lancaster, OH  43130



I'm VERY interested in buying quite a few disks for personal use so please
respond.  Thanks



                         Terry

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 633
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93  6:11a
Subj: CD-ROM Drive Sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00

Both Drives Include:  60 Day Warranty, External DIP switches, True 50 pin
  SCSI, 350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, newest ROM
  installed.  Diagnostic/cleaning done by service center.  NO special
  drivers required.  5.25 - Half Height Drive. Dust Flap.

205-837-5053 -=- Leave Message if not home, it WILL be returned -=-

Michael Konor, AMIGA_CDROM Co.Moderator



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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 634
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/08/93  2:03p
Subj: Hitachi CDROM drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Hi all!  I need to know if rumors I have heard are true.
->
-> 1) 1 Hitachi CDROM proprietary controller handles 4 Hitachi Drives
->
-> 2) You can have 4 Hitachi controllers in the same machine giving you
-> CDROM drives.......

This is true, but you can have up to 6 controller cards in one machine
if the board has enough slots.


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From: RICK ASHWORTH                          Number: 635
  To: MARK SMITKA                              Date: 06/09/93  7:53a
Subj: 7th guest trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mark!

06 Jun 93, Mark Smitka writes to Rick Ashworth:

 MS> You sound like just the kind of player Trilobyte had in mind when they
 MS> created T7G.  :-)

I'm too tired to figger that out, so I'll take that as a compliment! <g>

Actually, I already have T7G, but I'll always try to scavenge extras for
friends around here!  They're all jealous, and local outlets are sold out,
except for Babbages for $79!

Rick

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From: JOE RINEHART                           Number: 636
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/09/93 10:13p
Subj: Re: Adult Cd Price$                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mike:
    I was able to freq your (CATALOG), and enjoyed the descriptions.
What I'm really looking for is something in the format that you post.
On my system (RBBS) I have the margins set to 72, so I have to look
closer at your list.  I'd like to be able to use it as a guide to
purshase (based on price).  Is it possible that I might freq your posts
of just romdisc's with prices?  Just give me the filename or majic name.
Thanks in advance....
    Joe Rinehart
    1:157/479

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 637
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 06/09/93 10:43a
Subj: $130 CD ROM DRIVES                      Refer: NONE
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 4 used Hitachi  internal  3500  drives  with  an  external  case,
  controller  card,  cables,  caddies,  screws,  drivers,  30   day
  warranty,  INCLUDING shipping in the US via  US  mail  AND  c.o.d
  charges   ...   ONLY     $600    total.      Call    205-824-2552

  Power supplies are available for $25,
  External cable is available for $30,
  2 nd day shipping is available for $25.
  Cream  of  the  Crop  Shareware  with  this   package   for
  $20  ...and/or other popular cd titles.

  This special  ends  July  1st  or  whenever  supplies  are  gone.

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From: STEPHEN GUPTON                         Number: 638
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 06/10/93  6:46p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Jun1018:46, Mark Abbacchi of 1:100/550 writes:


 MA> Games 1993     $25.00  **NEW** 6000 files... Completely BBS ready
     Most distributers have removed this disk from their line because it's
  really messed up. I attempted to call voice and netmail and recieved no
 reply, I posted here as a last resort.

 <*=- Stephen -=*>

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From: FRANK KNAPP                            Number: 639
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 06/08/93 11:16p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send catalog (all titles)
to:
Frank Knapp
PO Box 234
Souderton, PA 18964

Thanks

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From: KEN CARPENTER                          Number: 640
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/08/93  5:28p
Subj: CorelDraw 3.0 CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am trying to get a good price on CorelDraw 3.0 can anyone help. I
have Word for Windows/Bookshelf92 if anyone is interested in a trade
otherwise a good price will do fine.

Thanks Ken



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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 641
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 06/10/93  1:25a
Subj: Hitachi CDROM drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MB>Hi James,
MB>I sell used Hitachi, and that is true. I have someone running 8 drives
MB>on one system with 2 cards and it works great.  We sell the Todd
MB>Enterprizes interface cards, and they are configurable.
MB>Let me know if you need some drives or controller cards.

Well what would 12 drives and 3 cards cost?
 ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Captain I believe thats the sound of a phaser on overload


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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 642
  To: RON GAGE                                 Date: 06/10/93  1:27a
Subj: Hitachi cdrom drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RG>The controller for the CDR-3600u can handle 8 drives by itself.  It is
also
RG>fully backwards compatible all the way to the old CDR-1503s drives.
RG> As for number of cards per machine, all I can tell you is that there are
7
RG>selectable addresses on the card.  There are also no IRQ selects or DMA
sele
RG>on the card.  In theory, this means 7 cards per machine or a theoretical
max
RG>56 CDROM drives in one machine.  Now, as for a practical setup...

If thats the case I need pricing on 2 cards and 16 drives......
 ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Captain I believe thats the sound of a phaser on overload


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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 643
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 06/09/93  8:23a
Subj: Cd-rom drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KR>How do you ship?

Most shipments are UPS Ground, because any other method costs more. I could
even hand deliver, for a reasonable fee, to places like Hawaii, Acupulco,
Florida, etc.
<VBG>


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From: RAY SEALS                              Number: 644
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93  9:13p
Subj: Twelve Roads to Gettysbu                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for a CD titled "Twelve Roads to Gettyburg".  I've seen it
for the MAC but I'm looking for the CD version for DOS.  There is a DOS
version but it's on floppies.  If anyone know were I can get one please
let me know.

Later...


 * JABBER v1.1 * CD ROM.  CD ROM run.  Run ROM run!

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From: RAY SEALS                              Number: 645
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93  9:18p
Subj: Mailing Lists                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please put my name on the catalog mailing lists:

Ray Seals
201 River Village
Destrehan, LA  70047

Thanks


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From: CHARLEY TEEL                           Number: 646
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/05/93  3:20a
Subj: CDROM's for sale              (Echo)    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CDROM for sale information.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 647
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 06/10/93 11:30a
Subj: FAO Gold                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Well said, well said!!  (:>

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 648
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 06/08/93 11:07p
Subj: MITSUMI AUDIO                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>in the background.  I have not noticed any conflict with other programs yet

> yeah. it's a small tsr.  just don't use DESQVIEW with it, and you'll
continue
>to enjoy it.

Odd - I can play audio on MY Mitsumi under Desqview here....


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 649
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/08/93  9:35p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

MB> MB> I have Physical Therapy, volume 3, an almost exact duplicate of XXX
MB> MB> Extreme that I would trade for the above.  I  bought this one at
MB> MB> comdex, and did not realize it duplicated extreme, so it is in
perfect
MB> MB> condition.  Interested?

MB>Not sure.  Prices have dropped so much recently, think I would rather
trade
MB>that sell it and try to buy something else.

Mike,
I have PcPixII, Smutware, Adult refference Library, and My Private
collection II for swap. Want to deal?

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 650
  To: JOHN DECARLO                             Date: 06/09/93  5:19p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JD>On <Jun 04 22:37>, Andy Yee (1:134/2001) wrote:
JD> AY >intersted in selling Fao?
JD>Yes, sale or trade.  Make an offer.

Which FAO? Got ARL? Pc-Pix II? Smutware? MPC II?

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 651
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 06/10/93  6:23a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RD>OK, well, Giffy Gold is on its way to you via 3rd class mail. I would

I'll get PC-Pix II out today. Thanks.

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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 652
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 06/10/93  3:22p
Subj: Private Pictures CDROM                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I have one copy of the cdrom disc Private Pictures for
 > sale.
 > 70 mini-movies and hundreds of x-rated GIFs.  No poster.
 > Buyer must be over 21, COD not acceptable.

I offer $20.

Vikki

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From: BERT KENNEDY                           Number: 653
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/10/93 10:26p
Subj: CAT                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Jim!

Please send me one as well

Bert Kennedy
636 Crystal Wood Dr.
Asheboro, N.C. 27203

All Titles and Types please..

Bert

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 654
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93  5:39p
Subj: Cdrom Titles For Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 06-09-93 All wrote to All...

 A > Just wondering everyone, is 700ms to slow to use a CD-ROM
 A > for a BBS? Like a shareware cd, for downloading etc...
 A > Thanks...
 A > Brian.
 A >
 A > --- Telegard 2.7.b7a Beta
 A >  * Origin: K9COPS BBS * BC * CANADA * "K9 Experts" (1:153/900)
 A >
 A >


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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 655
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93  7:39p
Subj: Cdrom Titles For Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


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From: DANNY TONG                             Number: 656
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 06/10/93  7:53p
Subj: The 7th guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PJ> Hi, what is 7TH Guest? It's the most amazing game I have ever seen.
The requirements are very high.  The recommendations are even higher.  It
comes on two CDs, some people said it's over a gig, but it takes 5MB on the
HD. There is a VHS tape that shows you how they made it and it's like they
were making a movie.  Actors, sound, music, acting sets, etc.

PJ> Is it a shareWare cd? No.  But you can buy it for under $50.


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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 657
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93 10:09a
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Looking for a copy of Microsoft's Bookshelf 1991 addition.  ALSO Info. on the
MIDI Music Shop.
Thank-you

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 658
  To: BOB SPILLERS                             Date: 06/10/93 10:42p
Subj: Need To Know                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >what I've observed on this echo I think I will need a Sound Board,
 >Speakers, and a drive. Is this correct or do I need other things? If
You don't _need_ a sound board, but they are nice to have. You cannot have
Multimedia with out one. For speakers, you can use your TV speakers (if it's
one of those fancy Stereo ones with inputs) or your stereo, or just plain
little speakers or headphones.
 >someone could set me straight on this and give me a ballpark figure on
Around $150 for a new soundboard with Cd-Rom interface, and $200-$300 for a
good Cd-Rom that will hook into it.
 >costs, it would be appreciated. Should I get internal or external and
 >what are the advantages or disadvantage of the two? The CD ROM would be
 >for personal entertainment only and not for business. I have a 5 1/4 bay
 >open if it would be better to get and internal.
Internal and External really doesn't matter. Externals are a few dollars
more, and take up space. An internal will take up another bay, making it
difficult (depending on your case) to add things such as a tape back up (you
have to get external, which cost much more). Also, Internals are easier to
hook to the sound board...If you go external you may have to purchase an
adaptor kit to use with the Soundboard to connect to the Cd-Rom drive. I
would look for a drive with no more than 500ms seek time, preferably less
than 400. Ideally you should get a multimedia "kit" with a Soundblaster pro.
That way you have no compatability problems and the Soundblaster is a lot
easier to set up than a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 or Sound Galaxy Pro 16. They
make "kits"  that come with a Soundblaster Pro and a Sony Cd-Rom drive.


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 659
  To: STEVE HOLSTEIN                           Date: 06/10/93  7:24p
Subj: Cache                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,
Norton (Syscamitic... what ever) has a great caching program that not only
caches cd-rom drives, but many other drives as well. I'm not sure of the
price or even the name as a matter of fact, but take a look around this echo,
your bound to find some one talking about it.

If i find out more, i'll tell you.


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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 660
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 06/10/93  7:32p
Subj: Cd-rom extravaganza!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Could you send me a catalog?
If so, please send it to:
Paul Janel
280 curtis road
Hilton NY 14468
Thanks!


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From: DEAN SCOTT                             Number: 661
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 05/23/93  4:45p
Subj: CD-ROM Extravaganza!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DP>                        PERKE INDUSTRIES
DP>                          602-898-3669
DP>                        VISA/MC Accepted!
DP>                        (No Extra Charge)

DP>Adult CD
DP>--------
DP>After Dark..........................................$25.95
DP>Oriental Garden.....................................$40.95

Can you give me some more info on this "Oriental Garden" CD? Is it a
disk full of Gifs or movies and how many of either is on it. Also do you
accept mail-in orders or by phone only? Finally, do you have a catalog
of your adult titles you could send me?

Dean

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 662
  To: FRANK SERENO                             Date: 06/11/93 12:11a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISONS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

FS>In the chart, each disk is compared against itself and a value is listed.
It
FS>has been a while since I have studied math (calculus to be more precise),
but
FS>I believe that any disk compared against itself should have a value of ONE
FS>HUNDRED PERCENT.  I have to question the accuracy of the comparisons
against
FS>other disks if the program cannot get this value correct.  At least one
disk
FS>came up as having 0.0% duplications and most them came up as having less
FS>than 1%.  Those values must be 100% or they should have some sort of null
FS>symbol placed in that square.

Frank,

Sorry, I should have made that more clear.  The dupe percentages for
CD's compared against themselves indicates the amount of duplicate files
WITHIN those CD's.  The program I used not only shows the percentage of
dupes between two DIFFERENT CD's, but shows the amount of INTERNAL
duplication for a given CD.  For example, Pier 1 when compared against itself
shows .06% duplication.  This means that WITHIN Pier1, there is a .06%
duplication of filenames, which means that of the roughly 5800 files on the
CD, 3 of them share common filenames with 3 other files.  Before Pier 2,
all shareware CD's had SOME percentage of internal dupes.  Pier 2 is the
only one I know of that has no duplicate files within its own directories,
hence the "0%" rating.  Very good if you ask me! <g>

Thanks for the reply; I'll be sure to clarify that point when I post the
chart again.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 663
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/11/93 12:11a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JP>Hey Mike, at one time a few weeks ago I offered you a brand new 420 meg
JP>Fujitsu HD for a bunch of your ADULT CDROM's.....you never did say
JP>whether or not you were interested in trades.....

James,

Sorry, but not all of my messages to my local board have been going out.
Looks like a good deal, but I've already got 750 megs installed, and I'm
only using about 300 of that!  No can use at this point.

Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 664
  To: LEE HICKERSLY                            Date: 06/11/93 12:11a
Subj: .TXT files                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LH>Is there a cd that specializes in Adult .TXT files? Does anyone have
LH>a large

Lee,

I don't know of one that has .TXT files exclusively, (does anyone) but
Ecstasy Hot Pics, PC-PIX 1, and Hot Pix 3 seem to have the largest
offering of text stories among .GIF/animation/txt combination CD's.
We've got 'em all in stock if you're interested.

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 665
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/11/93 12:11a
Subj: NIGHTWATCH INTERACTIVE!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

      WOW!!   New > INTERACTIVE < Adult video CD!  Only . . . . $65.00
      ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

        Introducing NIGHT WATCH, the first "Interactive" full-length
        adult movie!

        You make the rounds with a beautiful late night security guard
        as you check out the action in her complex.

        This is a custom-shot, full length interactive movie with over
        100 minutes of digital video!  Shot from the first person
        point of view, and viewed on a 320 x 240 pixel screen at a
        realistic 10 frames per second, Nightwatch Interactive is the
        first full length adult movie that puts the user directly in
        the action!  All along the way, you encounter erotic situations
        and interact with some of the most gorgeous women you've ever
        seen!  (Req. Windows 3.1)

        QUANTITIES LIMITED . . . . $65.00 while they last. . . . . .

        . . . . . . . Coming soon to a CD-ROM Drive (In) near you!

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 666
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/11/93 12:11a
Subj: 3 NEW SHAREWARE CD'S                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
    B R A N D    S P A N K I N'    N E W    S H A R E W A R E    C D ' S
 **************************************************************************

    If you want the MOST RECENT shareware files possible for your personal
    use, or for your BBS, look here!  These are the three ABSOLUTE NEWEST
    shareware CD's available, and all are of impeccable quality.  LOTS of
    attention to detail, with NO disappointments, GUARANTEED!!

1.  PIER 2 -  You know the spotless track record of Pier 1 by now, acclaimed
    by some as "the best BBS-ready shareware CD at any price".  Well get
    ready, because its successor is HERE!  Announcing PIER 2 - The most
    up-to-date IBM shareware CD available.  Almost 5000 files in 50
    different categories, with 75% dated 1993!!  Only 0.23% duplication
    to Pier 1, and 0.43% duplication to Night Owl 8.  All files virus-
    scanned, fully BBS-ready with support for PCBoard, GAP, Spitfire, and
    Wildcat, EZ file access with the Pier retrieval system, smart-date
    checking, on and on!  661mb total.  A definite "must-have".  ** $45 **

2.  SHAREWARE STUDIO #2 - An outstanding new disc with 6659 hand-picked
    1992/1993 shareware files.  Includes every possible file area from
    ANSI Graphics to Word Processing.  Fully BBS-ready with a super-
    slick user interface that allows users to access and search the
    files from a srollable menu.  All files free of archive errors, BBS
    ads, AV codes, and all known computer viruses.  All archive dates
    match the latest date found within the archive.  Less than 1/2 of 1%
    internal duplicates, with NO dupes to #1!  637mb total.  ** $27 **

3.  SOFTWARE VAULT #2 - A phenomenal collection of late releases,
    including the "Hottest Hits" of Spring 1993.  Fully BBS-compatible,
    with FILES.BBS in each directory.  Categories include Windows
    Applications & Games, DOS games, Family and Education, General
    Business Programs, PC Utilities, Graphics, Programming Utilities &
    Source Code, Music & Sound, Special Interests, and much more.  620mb
    total.  This one won't be available everywhere!  ** $29 **

    SPECIAL OFFER #1:  Take all three for $89!
    SPECIAL OFFER #2:  Add Night Owl 8 to any purchase for only $27!
    SPECIAL OFFER #3:  600mb "Mystery" CD only $6 with any purchase!

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From: JAMES MILLER                           Number: 667
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93 11:22a
Subj: New to this Echo                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mission Control BBS is new to this echo.  Are there any rules and regs I need
to know about besides the usual No FLAMING!! or shouting type rules??

Thanks

James Miller

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 668
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93  7:52p
Subj: CD's 4 SALE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have one each of the following CDROM titles for sale at prices stated:

$6.00   TaxPrep 1993--Chestnut title. Not just tax forms for 1993 but
                      various tax/business programs and files (over
                      700 various files)
$8.00   Deathstar Arcade Battles--Chestnut title. About 400 various games.
$8.00   Technotools--Chestnut title. Tools and utils for various programming
                     languages.
$8.00   MPC Wizard--Test & tune-up CDROM disc for Windows
$12.00  Rotor--Three commercial arcade games ROTOR, AIRBALL & TIME BANDIT
               plus about 100 NASA GIF files.
$12.00  GIFs Galore--over 5000 color GIFs in various catagories. No X rated.
$15.00  Barney Bear Goes to School--for ages 2-6. Listen to stories and play
                                    various education activities.
$15.00  the Manhole--A graphic fantasy exploration (just use mouse) for ages
                     4-7+.
$15.00  Gallery of Dreams--Over 500 24-bit TIFF various catagory images. Can
                           display slide show with QT for WIN files on CDROM.

$20.00  Federal Register--Find out what's going on in Government, ACTs and
                          Bills passed etc. from 11-13-92 to 5-14-93. Makes
                          for some interesting reading at times. Easy to use
                          search engine on disc.
$20.00  American Business Phone Book--New, still in shrink wrap. 10 million+
                                      American business listings and over 1
                                      million Canadian listings.
$20.00  Multimedia Toolbook--Asymetrix Toolbook 1.5 evaluation edition. Lets
                             a person develop a multimedia presentation for
                             WIN 3.1 and check out the program before
                             spending $595.00 list to see if it's right for
                             you. Limits developmental time to 6 hours of
                             work per project.


All prices are firm and do not include shipping. For shipping: 1st item $2.00

2nd item $1.00 more, 3rd and above $.50 more each.


Sorry but to make this easier for me, these are for sale in U.S. only. No
COD.
A money order gets same day first class shipping, and a check gets a 5 bank
working day hold. All orders will get a letter telling status of order,
return
of monies, etc. as needed.

Send order to:

Paul Swider
509 Digger St.
Las Vegas, Nv.
89107

If you have to discuss anything about the titles or concerning an order,
please call me at [phone] from 1PM to 9PM PDST. Thanks.

>Paul<

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 669
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 06/03/93 12:58p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KR>Howdy Jim,

KR> JL> Anyone wishing to receive the latest CD-Rom Price List from Computer
KR> JL> Works, give us a call or leave a message with your address, and we'd
be

KR>Kirk Rawnsley
KR>5128 Grove Hill Road SW
KR>Calgary Alberta
KR>T3E 4G6

KR>          Kirk Rawnsley
KR>          Rules are for Other People

KR>--- GoldED 2.40
KR> * Origin: We are Not Saints, Calgary Alberta [phone] (1:134/26)

I would like a catalog, PLEASE
Sam Figueroa
Sam's Software
Rt 2 Box 2453-A
Manchester, TN 37355


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 670
  To: VERNON MELTON                            Date: 06/05/93  4:44p
Subj: Re: cd's                                Refer: NONE
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VM>                    -=> Quoting Brandan Upson to All <=-

VM> BU> Ultima VI and Wing commander $25.00   Both on same CD.
VM>Brandan,
VM>    I will offer one Languages of the World CD in trade for the Wing
VM>Commander CD-ROM.  It has dictionary's and can translate the following
VM>languages:
VM>          English
VM>          French
VM>          German
VM>          Italian
VM>          Spanish
VM>          Dutch
VM>          Japanese (Both major versions of Japanese with pictures
VM>                   of the correct character)
VM>          Chinese  (I think it's Mandarin with pictures of the
VM>                   correct character)
VM>          Norwegian
VM>          Danish
VM>          Finnish
VM>          Swedish                                     (146 k)
VM>It can be used as a stand alone reference or run as a large TSR with your
VM>favorite editor.  I am proposing a even trade.  Thank you.
VM>Later,
VM>      Vernon Melton

VM>... The Earth is 98% full.  Please DELETE anyone you can.
VM>--- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR]
VM> * Origin: The Evans BBS,616-754-6180,1500 Megs & 10 CD-ROM's
(1:2390/10.0)
 I am interested in buying this CD if you will sell it and for what
 price, I might have something to trade, leave me of what you want to
 trade and I might have it or call me at:
                                Sam Figeuroa
                                Sam's Software
                                [phone]
                                Manchester's Best Software Distributer!
         Thanks!?


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 671
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 06/05/93  4:48p
Subj: Re: Adult cd's to swap                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KP>On 02 Jun 93  06:36:00, I heard Terry Woodward shout to Kevin Plummer:

KP>KP>  Well I have Volcano (ADULT) and VGA Spectrum for trade, If
interested,
KP>Jus
KP>TW> KP>leave me a Note...
KP>TW>
KP>TW> I'm interested in the Volcano. What's VGA Spectrum?
KP>TW>

KP>VGA Spectrum is a Shareware disk with a little bit of everything on it,
KP>Everything from .GIF's, to Utilities...

KP>                        ......|<evin

KP>--- Squish v1.01
KP> * Origin: The Softwares Zone  (1:231/570)
 What would you take for either of these CD's?
                                Sam Figueroa


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 672
  To: GABE HOWARD                              Date: 06/07/93  9:46a
Subj: CDROM RETAILER                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MB>GH+If you would like a catalog of over 400 CDROM titles.....

MB>        Hello Gabe,

MB>        Please send one to me:
MB>                Michael Booth
MB>                31 Bethesda Ct.
MB>                Sacramento, CA 95838

MB>Michael


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Hello Gabe,
        Please send me a catalog at:
        Sam's Software
        Sam Figueroa
        Rt 2 Box 2453-A
        Manchester, Tn 37355
                                   Thanks?!


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 673
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/09/93 11:44p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BOX INSERTS                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <06-07-93 20:39> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> Did you get my message about needing 2-3 BB jewel box inserts?

No I did not get the message--Since I have about 1,000 covers I cannot use
now, I'm sure I can get 3 off to you--

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 674
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/09/93 11:54p
Subj: Re:  Florida Lion's Den In In           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <06-07-93 20:29> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>>  LN> I am in love with the CHINON 535 series ROM drive--I want one, N

BJ>> Ooooooooooh! Tell me more. I was sorta saving up for a fast Texel..

Talk to Chinon at 1-800-441-0222, it's a dual speed, multisession, multimedia
workhorse:

Highlights:

  PC/MPC and Mac/QUick Time Compatible
  Photo CD capability-Multisession
  Formats: High Sierra, ISO 9660, APPLE HFS, XA
  Dual Speed 300K/Sec. Sustained Transfer Rate
  256K Data Buffer
  280 ms Average Access Time
  Daisychain Connection for 7 drives
  Device Driver & CD-Audio Play software
  Dip Switch Termination
  Built in headphone Jack & Stereo Output
  Small footprint
  Dust protection Through Auto Pickup lens Cleaning, Double doors
     and sealed mechanisms.
  Data Transfer rate is 150/Ksec Normal Speed
                        300K/sec Double Speed

Hope this helps--It sold me ! It has impressive video transfer speed. My
next choice is the Pioneer.

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 675
  To: SABINE VAN DEN AUDENAERDE                Date: 06/10/93 12:06a
Subj: Re: Is this "service" ???               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Mike Shannon <06-04-93 09:04> Sabine Van Den Audenaerde
wrote:

SV>> for a package deal on Pier1+2 & Night Owls 8 ... and maybe Busty
SV>> Babes ... I need to know all extra costs .....

I am the publisher of Busty Babes and I know there is a company called
Bestware, that has some left--They are located in Belgium. This disc is out
of print now because of multiple lawsuits, so get one while you can because
they are tough to find and the prices are going up on them because of there
value now--

Good Luck,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 676
  To: MIKE PETRO                               Date: 06/10/93 12:11a
Subj: Re: NEW CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Boris Osadciw <06-06-93 12:39> Mike Petro wrote:

MP>> **** E N C Y C L O P E D I A   O F  C L I P A R T *********

MP>> ARE THE CLIPART IMAGES 300 DPI? I WAS DISAPPOINTED WITH ALL THE 75
MP>> DPI
MP>> ON CLIPART GOLIATH. AT LEAST IT HAD SOME 300 DPI....

As one of the author's let me answer this one--*YOU BET*, they are all
300-600DPI, no junk, no dupes--11,000+, and the book which will picture all
of these will be out end of July-August, but the disc is available now.

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 677
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/10/93  2:08p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den In               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <06-08-93 22:56> Darin Celino wrote:

DC>> I missed you too.  Checked at the TradeShows booth on Mon, Tue, and
DC>> Wed......oh well........Picked up a BB while I was there.

Well, your going to have to meet me to get Busty Babes II :)

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 678
  To: CRAIG TIANO                              Date: 06/10/93  2:27p
Subj: Re: asian ladies                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to CHRIS BARRETT <06-09-93 10:38> CRAIG TIANO wrote:

CT>> If you want to produce an Adult CDROM, you better have your own
CT>> original material or material from a reliable source who created the
CT>> material.

Excellent advice, and truely the wave of the industry--Distributor's are
getting as paranoid as the publisher's---We appreciate your assistance in
getting the word out about copyright infringements, because I would hate to
see somebody go through 1/10th of what I have been put through with several
suits I have before me.

Hence, if we don't have model releases on GIFS, or 100% release of liability,
we don't play--Shareware is another big market for suits, and it's getting to
the point where a publisher will have to get written permission to use each
and every program on the disc--

1993 has proven to be the year of lawsuits, and between your goodwill and
mine, hopefully we can save somebody from making those mistakes innocently
that are nailing us bigger companies 2 years later...

Publisher's have the potential to make a nice return on their efforts, but
most profits end up with the attorneys that represent us--The days for
fast/easy bucks are gone forever--Since CD-ROMS are breaking new territories,
you need at least 25K in escrow to ward off those that are starting to police
and regulate the industry--All our infringements were out of ignorance, and
in the Court of law that has little bearing--

Knowing what I do after 2 years in the publishing biz, I wouldn't be one.
It's something you really want to take a hard educated look at, legally. The
legal side was never a concern 2 years ago, and the days of "HomeGrown"
disc's are gone, and most all forthcoming disc's will almost qualify as
commercial because of the licensed material to the publisher--

There is no tolerance for the smallest of infringements--Very risky, risky
business now.

Thanks !

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 679
  To: LEE HICKERSLY                            Date: 06/10/93  2:31p
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <06-08-93 17:36> Lee Hickersly wrote:

LH>> Is there a cd that specializes in Adult .TXT files? Does anyone have
LH>> a large amount of them built up from other cd's?

No, no such disc exists--Keep in mind most all adult stories go uncensored,
and many of the stories involve incest/beastiality etc--Please take the time
to screen them if you plan to distribute them-No publisher wants to read
hundreds of stories to screen out those that are Federally Obscene, much to
time consuming.

Just some friendly advice--

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 680
  To: DEAN SCOTT                               Date: 06/10/93  2:33p
Subj: Re: Used CD's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <05-20-93 06:30> Dean Scott wrote:
DS>>          Nix Pix 1-4
DS>>          Hot Pix 1-4

Hon',

    These 2 series I quoted above are one and the same.

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 681
  To: WARREN DANIO                             Date: 06/10/93  2:43p
Subj: GEEZ                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Kirk Rawnsley <06-09-93 02:27> Warren Danio wrote:

WD>>         ANYBODY HAVING A REAL BUSINESS SHOULD HAVE AN 800 #....

I agree that transporting catalog requests do clutter things a bit, but I am
a sysop as well as publisher of CD's, and I look at mail tossing as part of
the job--I carry thousands of messages to other sysops in packets I know
nothing about--They surely aren't interests of mine, but I carry the packets
nevertheless because that is what a sysops does--Like it or not.

It would be nice, if this echo would have the dealers provide phone numbers
so that requests can be made another way besides in this echo--But, as a
business woman, I *REFUSE* to have an 800 number so that I can pay .33 cents
per minute for the type of individual that opts to spend my money instead of
putting some effort forth and reading documentation--

When distribs set up 800 numbers for orders, often times folks will use that
number for other things--So, IMHO, judging successful companies with 800
numbers is a little bias :)

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 682
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 06/10/93  6:12p
Subj: Re: Adult cd's to swap                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KP>TW> Thanks. I'm up to my ears in Shareware disks. Want to trade for the
KP>TW> volcano disk? Send to:
KP>TW> Terry Woodward
KP>TW> Suite 294
KP>TW> 2269 S. University Drive
KP>TW> Davie, Fl 33324
KP>TW>
KP>TW> Leave me an address and I'll send the cdrom. Which disk was it that
you
KP>TW> wanted?

KP>Terry,

KP>  Okay, What disk did you have again ??  And Once I get your Reply Back, I
KP>will ship the disk that day...

Adult Reference Library
Smutware
PC Pix II
My Private Collection, II

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * For a photographer, life is just a bed of poses.


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 683
  To: JAMES MILLER                             Date: 06/12/93  4:32p
Subj: New to this Echo                        Refer: 4109
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Mission Control BBS is new to this echo.  Are there any rules and reg
-> to know about besides the usual No FLAMING!! or shouting type rules??

Not really... Just use your brain.

tim
moderator
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From: STEPHEN GUPTON                         Number: 684
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/11/93 10:12a
Subj: SUM NU STUF!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Jun1110:12, Mike Shannon of 1:3407/101 writes:

SG>     I spoke with 3 differant distributors and all say this
SG> disk is hosed up, and yet, they were honest enough to point
SG>this out rather than just make a

 MS> Stephen,

 MS> What's "hosed up" about it?  I've sold around 40 of these, and
 MS> not a single complaint so far.  The sister CD "Shareware 93"
 MS> is another story however. That disc is missing several files
 MS> AND directories, and I'm now liquidating them at my cost and
 MS> telling my customers up front that it does have some definite
 MS> problems.  Haven't heard anything negative about Games 93
 MS> until now, so can you be more specific than just "hosed up"?
     The way it was described to me was the fact that over 300 files listed
        were not there and the files.bbs were not correct.

 <*=- Stephen -=*>

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From: ROBERT LEE                             Number: 685
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93  5:17p
Subj: Maximus BBS-specific CDRom Door         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Wish that Maximus BBS better supported CDRoms instead of having to use up
your harddrive with CDRom-related Files.bbs's?  Wish you didn't have to FB
Maximus everytime you switched CDs?  Wish you could switch CD's in a minute
instead of 10 minutes?  Wish you could lock certain CDRom files out in the
cold so users can't download them?

Want a CDrom Door that will do fast global searches of files/text and allow
users to tag files?

Wish you had a CDRom door that would automatically adjust Maximus's
USERS.BBS to show user activity on a CDRom and have the benefits of
side-stepping Maximus's clumsy handling of CDRoms?


Well then, friend, this is for you!  Call New Century BBS [phone] or
at 1:232/31 and download/FReq CDMAXDOR.ZIP and try it out.  You'll be
pleased and so will your users.  CDMAXDOOR.ZIP is about 175K.  Shareware.
Fully documented.  Automated installation assistance.  If you're running MAX
and NiteOwl 8, PowerBox v1.00, or PowerPak Gold '92 CD's then this will be a
real treat as CDMAXDOOR.ZIP comes with preconfigs for these three CDroms.

Give it a try....  if you like it, register it.  Unregistered CDMAXDOR.ZIP
works fine... but will show a non-registered message and a brief delay every
now and then.

FReq'able at 1:232/31 as CDMAXDOR.ZIP (175k)

Downloadable at New Century BBS [phone].


Online support for users at the above BBS.

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From: BEN BYRD                               Number: 686
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93  4:35p
Subj: Mail                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi my friend would like mail from all you companies out there.  His
address is:

Cascade High School
Dave Daily
801 Casino Road
Everett, WA. 98203

Thank you for your time.

 * SLMR 2.1a * We all live in a yellow subroutine.


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From: BEN BYRD                               Number: 687
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/09/93  9:09p
Subj: Catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi I have a teacher interested in recieving Catalogs on DTP and clip art
stuff please send it to:

Dianne Jonhson
Cascade High School
Casino Road
Everett WA. 98203


Thank you Ben Byrd and Mrs. Jonhson

 * SLMR 2.1a * It was like the time I stapled bologna to my face...


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From: THOMAS TRAN                            Number: 688
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/11/93 10:59a
Subj: Sega CD roms                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone out there have any used SEGA CD games for sale??  l8r!!

              \/\/hiz  TVT


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 689
  To: WARREN DANIO                             Date: 06/11/93 11:19a
Subj: GEEZ                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 WD>        AWAY CASH CUSTOMERS WHO GET DAM TIRED OF "SEND CATALOG TO
 WD>        ANYBODY HAVING A REAL BUSINESS SHOULD HAVE AN 800 #....


Speaking only for myself, but as a cash customer, I don't mind the "send
me a catalog" posts. I think in the aggregate they're a coarse
indicator of the growing interest in the field, and that's of passing
interest to me, personally. I'm not sure it's necessary for the dealers
to reply to every such request, but even if they do as a way of being
responsive (an excellent business practice), it takes me only a fraction
of a second to skip by them. I suppose I could even configure my reader
to filter out "catalog" posts if I took the time to do that - but I
probably won't bother.

I'm trying to understand why a person would stop doing business with a
dealer just because some third party asked the dealer for a catalog.
That doesn't make any sense to me. I'm not the moderator of this echo,
but it seems to operate as a kind of electronic flea market where
individuals and merchants alike can sell/trade CDs. If that's even
partially true, knowing what's available for purchase is central to the
theme. As most dealers offer far more CDs than they ever post listings
of here, a catalog of some kind is a necessity.

You gave your opinion, now I given mine. End of thread from this end.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 690
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 06/11/93 11:33a
Subj: Gif/Anim disks ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 AM> Also looking for an R gif disk.  I have heard Giffy Gold is a pr
 AM> good one.  Any comments on it?  Any other recomendations?


Personally, I didn't like Giffy Gold, and it's not strictly an "R" disk
to boot. I think you'd be a lot happier with one of the other "lingere"
CDs that many of the dealers here offer. I don't have a recommendation
on "G" CDs, but Boris Osadciw, Mike Shannon, Dave Reed, and others can
set you on the right path.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 691
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/11/93 11:15a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISONS                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> Are my figures still suspect? <g>


Nope! You've cleared that up. I suspect others had a similar
interpretation, tho'. Boy, I wish that program was smart enough to work
on image CDs! I guess it might as long as the same image was always
tagged with the same title - too much to ask, I guess :( .  Well, if Lee
Noga's right, we won;t have to put up with re-hashed files much longer.
Can't wait for that day <GGG>.

Cheers!
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From: JAMES DUNLAP                           Number: 692
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93  2:17a
Subj: Cd Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi All, I would like to recieve CD Rom catalogs from any dealers that wish
to send one.

    Thanks: James Dunlap
            6605 Chauncey Dr.
            Memphis,Tn.38141-1207


... Success is just a matter of luck.  Ask any failure.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: TONY D. BERRY                          Number: 693
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 06/11/93  2:51a
Subj: Private Pictures CDROM                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CB> I have one copy of the cdrom disc Private Pictures for sale.

How 'bout $15 plus $2.90?

I can mail you a money order or cashiers check, your choice.

For faster response, feel free to call me at [phone].

Thanks.

Tony D. Berry

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From: TONY D. BERRY                          Number: 694
  To: JOSH BERRY                               Date: 06/11/93  2:59a
Subj: Incredible!                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Your name is the same as my brothers! I have been in the BBS scene for 12
years, calling to and fro, from state to state, even overseas, and this is
the first I have seen that!

Anyway, do you have some CD software for sale? If so, I am interested. Please
respond with titles and asking price.

Tony D. Berry

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From: ANDREW MURPHY                          Number: 695
  To: CHRIS BARRETT                            Date: 06/10/93  7:03a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->  > VGA Spectrum is a Shareware disk with a little bit of everything o
->  > it, Everything from .GIF's, to Utilities...
->
->     Just thought I would interject... VGA Spectrum 2 (note: TWO) is N
-> like VGA Spectrum 1. I was greatly dissapointed by the fact VGA Spect
-> NO pictures... It did contain a lot of great sound files, and a few c
-> shareware games (Apogee stuff).
->
->     Just incase you were thinking of buying the 2nd one, don't unless
-> sound related stuff.

I agree.  I just got it too, after seeing someone elses VGASectrum I.
It is parked on a shelf, back in it's original box.  Took about 5
minutes to decide it wasn't worth putting on the BBS, though it would
make a great basisi for a system demo in a store or something.  There
are a lot of nice animations.  That just sin't what I bought it for!


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From: JOHN LEONARD                           Number: 696
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93  8:40p
Subj: ROMS for trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

- Night Owl - Business Application Disk - pressed 10-92
              NOPV_BUSINESS,  106MB   $15.00
.
- Night Owl - Daytime Express           - pressed 11-92
              563MB   $15.00
.
- IDG Enterprise Computing 6 month sampler.  IDG's response
  to Ziff's Computer Select.  Contains 6 recent months of full text
  for: Computer World, Infoworld, Network World, and the Editorial
  Base for additional IDG publications. - pressed 2-93
              40,000 articles, 443MB   $40.00
.
I'd like to trade (no games) for other CD-ROMS.  Echo,
or call 215-354-0330 (day), 215-642-4361 (eve).  John...
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 697
  To: BRIAN WHEATLEY                           Date: 06/11/93  5:58a
Subj: Re: Cd-Rom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Just wondering everyone, is 700ms to slow to use a CD-ROM for a BBS? Like
> a shareware cd, for downloading etc... Thanks...
> Brian.
It is not. TTYL

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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 698
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 06/11/93  9:55a
Subj: MITSUMI AUDIO                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >> yeah. it's a small tsr.  just don't use DESQVIEW with it, and you'll
conti
 > nue
 >>to enjoy it.

 > Odd - I can play audio on MY Mitsumi under Desqview here....


Why just make a comment... why not share your set up with those that might be
having a problem? Your response, as is, is just a waste of byte space.

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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 699
  To: GORDON IRELAND                           Date: 06/11/93 10:46p
Subj: Comdex                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

|GI> Could someone please tell me when the next COMDEX will be.             |
|GI>                                                                        |
|GI> I believe it will be in Las Vegas and need to know exact dates.        |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Call the producers of the show at 617-449-6600.  They should have a
date nailed down for at least the next four shows by now.
___
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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 700
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 06/11/93 10:49p
Subj: Gif/Anim disks ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

|AM> Also looking for an R gif disk.  I have heard Giffy Gold is a pretty   |
|AM> good one.  Any comments on it?  Any other recomendations?              |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
IMHO It is a great disc.  Mostly R rated.  I can't wait till the next
one comes out.....Bill, if you are listening maybe you could tell us
if you are going to do another one.
___
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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 701
  To: CARLOS RODRIGUEZ                         Date: 06/11/93 10:21p
Subj: Shareware Cd Compariso                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

|CR> Am I reading this chart correctly?  I'm not trying to be a smart ***   |
|CR> but looking at pr1 compared to pr1, shouldn't it be 100% duplicate     |
|CR> files since it is the same CD?  Same for pr2, and no7?  The way I'm    |
|CR> reading it, pr1 compared to itself only duplicates .06%, pr2 to itself |
|CR> .00%, and no7 to itself .06%!  It looks like a very informative chart  |
|CR> but I can't figure out if I'm reading it right!  Please explain b/c I'd|
|CR> like to use the chart.                                                 |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
In the CD world there are often files on the same disc that are
duplicated elsewhere on the disc.  It is possible that this comparison
program is reporting what % of the files on the disk are on there more
than once.
___
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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 702
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/11/93  7:48a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MB> I have Physical Therapy, volume 3, an almost exact duplicate of XXX
 TW> Mike, I have PcPixII, Smutware, Adult refference Library, and My
 TW> Private collection II for swap. Want to deal?

I already told someone else to send me a disc in trade for it.  If it does'nt
show within the week, I would trade it for MPC II.  Give me time to properly
wait, and I will get back to you.  Layterz

 * MKRead v1.01 * Bugs are Sons of Glitches!


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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 703
  To: NED ALLISON                              Date: 06/10/93  7:37a
Subj: MSCDEX PROBLEM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks Ned; That was the answer.  The 2nd problem with the Microsoft
Bookshelf was somthing I don't really understand, but it appears the the 486
modifies the software as it uses it. And the cd-rom softward also is making
changes and "never the twain shall meet" JUST LOCKUP!  Clint

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 704
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/11/93  2:42p
Subj: ADULT CD-sale or trade...               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have STORM II adult CD-ROM for sale or trade, I would prefer to
trade...        Leave message here if interested...
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From: CHRIS KOPENEC                          Number: 705
  To: BRIAN PUNTNEY                            Date: 06/11/93  9:10p
Subj: CDs cheap!                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I could use some of those 2 for 15 CD's too.  Please leave a message here
or call my board at 214-219-0428.  The name is Silicon City BBS.


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From: CHRIS KOPENEC                          Number: 706
  To: SCOTT FISHER                             Date: 06/11/93  9:11p
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Add me to the list, too.

My address is:

Silicon City BBS
Chris Kopenec
1055 Elmwood
Lewisville, TX
75067-5013

Thanks


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From: CHRIS KOPENEC                          Number: 707
  To: DOUG BURDEN                              Date: 06/11/93  9:12p
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOGS!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Add me too!

Address:

Silicon City BBS
Chris Kopenec
Lewisville, TX
75067-5013


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From: CHRIS KOPENEC                          Number: 708
  To: GREGORY WYNOT                            Date: 06/11/93  9:14p
Subj: CD'S 4-SALE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have Phoenix 3.0.  Only $10 for the other?  Great deal.  Send me some
info and help me get my stuff really going on the BBS.

Silicon City BBS
Chris Kopenec
1055 Elmwood
Lewisville, TX
75067-5013


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From: CHRIS KOPENEC                          Number: 709
  To: B.A. CROWELL                             Date: 06/11/93  9:18p
Subj: NEW CATALOG IS DONE!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send one to me, too.

Silicon City BBS
Chris Kopenec
1055 Elmwood
Lewisville,TX
75067-5013


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From: CHRIS KOPENEC                          Number: 710
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/11/93  9:19p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm not sure if I wrote to you yet, but send me a catalog.

Silicon City BBS
Chris Kopenec
1055 Elmwood
Lewisville, TX
75067-5013


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From: GREG ARMENIA                           Number: 711
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93  1:44a
Subj: The Pier Shareware CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

       >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  NEW CD-ROM RELEASE  <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

   *********************************************************************

   The Only CD-ROM HOTTER and More CURRENT Then The Pier Shareware #1 Is


                   T h e   P i e r   S h a r e w a r e  #2

                               Now Shipping

                               Only $49.00

                  ORDERS ONLY 1 - 8 0 0 - 4 3 8 - 9 7 3 4

   *********************************************************************

              The HOTTEST and most CURRENT Shareware CD-ROM on
              the market! Nearly 5,000 files in 50 different
              Subjects, and 75% dated 1993, and 25% 1992.

     The Pier Exchange is proud to present the HOTTEST and MOST CURRENT
     Shareware CD-ROM two disc SET on the market. 100% of the files on
     The Pier Shareware #2 are TRULY dated 1992-1993 files. The Pier
     Exchange has ensured this with "Smart Date Checking." Dated files
     (i.e. FILE_ID.DIZ, READ.ME...) within the archives are disregarded
     giving you TRULY the latest files.


      S P E C A I L   T W O   D I S C   O F F E R

    OVER 10,000 of The Most CURRENT Shraeware Files Available On CD-ROM

    We GUARANTEE it with a 30 day money back ASSURANCE!!!

        The Pier Shareware #1
        The Pier Shareware #2                 **************************
                                              *                        *
      Two Disc Set For ONLY                   *        Subjects        *
                                              *                        *
              $59.00                          * ---------------------- *
                                              *  Windows  Applications *
     Just Ask For "The NET Special"           *      Windows Games     *
                                              *  Programing Languages  *
 The Pier Shareware #2 CD-ROM Features:       *    Programing Tools    *
                                              *   SVGA  GIF Pictures   *
 * Nearly 5,000 files                         *  Educational Programes *
 * 661 Megs of files                          *  Games / Entertainment *
 * <ASP> directory                            *   Sound Blaster /MIDI  *
 * 75% files dated 1993, 25% 1992 SDI         *      DTP / Clipart     *
   (Smart Date Checking in place)             *          Bible         *
 * THE PIER retrieval software contained      *    Medical / Health    *
   on the CD-ROM (easy file access)           *     Word Processing    *
 * All files have been scanned for            *   Laser/Printer Utils  *
   viruses with the latest McAfee SCAN        *  BBS  Programs / Doors *
 * Full GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat!      *      Communications    *
   Remote Access (FILES.BBS) Support          *          Legal         *
 * Less then 1% duplication between           *   OS/2 Programs/Utils  *
   The Pier Shareware #1                      *                        *
 * Less then 1% duplication between           *   And Much Much More!  *
   Night Owl 8                                **************************

 The Pier Shareware #1 CD-ROM Features:

 * Nearly 6,000 files
 * 640+ Megs of Shareware files
 * <ASP> directory
 * 99% files dated 1992, 50% newer then 8/92
   (smart date checking in place)                    IS0 9660
 * Pier1 retrieval software contained
   on the CD-ROM (easy file access)
 * All files have been scanned for
   viruses with the latest McAfee SCAN
 * Full GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat!
   BBS Support
 * Less then 1% duplication between
   Night Owl 7 and 16% Night Owl 8

       Disc Sold Separately

        The Pier Shareware #1 - 29.00     30 Day Money Back
Guarantee!!!!
        The Pier Shareware #2 - 49.00


 Order by voice, FAX, or BBS online ORDER door. The cost of the CD-ROM
 is only $49.00 plus $5.00 shipping & handling, ($8.00 overseas). We
 accept all major cerdit cards, check, and money order. Checks and money
 orders must be US funds and drawn on  US banks. Make checks payable to:
 The Pier Exchange, 128 Carmel Rd., Buffalo NY 14214


                ORDERS ONLY 1 - 8 0 0 - 4 3 8 - 9 7 3 4


 The Pier Exchange, 128 Carmel Rd., Buffalo NY 14214, BBS 716/875-3130
 14.4 BBS 716/875-0283 16.8, Information or FAX [phone] RIME ->1376


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 712
  To: SCOTT STADLER                            Date: 06/11/93  1:38p
Subj: Re: pricing                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Boris,  What is the price you would charge for a Toshipb 3401
>>    internal Pro Audio Spectrum card, and all controllers and
>>    cables necc. for both music cd and cdRom sound, as well as
>>    some inexpensive shielded speakers.  thanks Scott

Your cost would be $659. for a straight SCSI interface system and
$759. for a bus address scsi interface. This would give you all of the
above plus a FREE cd on us.

If your interested, call us at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to discuss
it further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 713
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 06/11/93  1:38p
Subj: Re: Pioneer Special                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>>Pioneer DMR 600 - 600ms / 150kps - bare drive  - PRICE $ 799.00
  >>Pioneer DMR 604X -350ms / 600kps - bare drive  - PRICE $1199.00
>>
>>     Boris,
>>            Have you heard any dates on the triple-cartridge
>>            (18cdrom) changer being developed by pioneer? Any word
>>     on price? thanks

Yes and No !! We've heard about it from Pioneer, but as for price and specs,
nothing concrete.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 714
  To: DONALD MACKAY                            Date: 06/11/93  1:38p
Subj: Re: Cd rom drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Hello Boris,
>>        I am looking for some info in the area of CD ROMs.  I
>>        really don't know very much about the CD interface
>>     methedology. I am looking for either a SCSI CD ROM and
>>     Adaptec SCSI 2 controller pair or a CD ROM that is either
>>     proprietry or IDE (if there is such a beast) that will work
>>     with OS/2.1. I would like a drive that will work with my
>>     Soundblaster ASP16 board as well. What would you suggest and
>>     what do you have available? What kind of performance are we
>>     talking about?

Ok, well part of what your asking for is not available in any format.
But, the best system for the your $$ would be a Texel as it offer's great
value and reliabilty as well as performance and compatiablity.

The Texel will work with the Adaptec as well as OS/2 2.1 and Windows NT.

As for the SBPro, you can only use the audio portion of the system as it
will not support the Texel and any of the major scsi systems directly.

Hope this helps, if not, your welcome to call us direct at 216-225-3263
anytime and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Xpress Yourself!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 715
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93  1:43a
Subj: NEW RELEASE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

++++++++++++++++++ BRAND NEW - DIGITAL DREAMS +++++++++++++++++++++
        New Adult CD - BBS Ready - All NEW High Res Scans
           630+ megs - Over 30 Dirs - 100 + per Dir
 X-Rated     Files BBS Support In Two Formats       Disk Rated A+
              High Quality Front End w/Mouse

  Price - $35.00 - C.C.I Customers Call For Your Special Discount

For additional Info - call - 216-225-3263 To ORDER ONLY 800-243-0517

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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From: ADRIAN PENDELL                         Number: 716
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93  5:22p
Subj: 7th Guest...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        I have really been wanting to buy this game, and, infact,
        actually had taken it up to the register to buy it when I
        noticed the box said it requires an SVGA monitor w/ 1 meg RAM
        -is this true? If so, it seems a real dissapointment for those
        of us who don't have SVGA cards ( I, personally, can't see a
        damn bit of difference between the two..), and this would, along
        w/ LInks 386, be only the second game i've ever seen that had
        such a requirement...Thanks ahead of time...


... Mary had a little RAM -- only about a MEG or so.
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From: BRIAN HURLEY                           Number: 717
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 06/11/93 10:01a
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MA>                         The MARKetplace!

MA>Star Trek/     $25.00 1200 GIF photo's of Star Trek, The Next
  >Fantasy               Generation, Star Wars,  100+ sound files, Fantasy
  >                      Creatures, Dungeon's and Dragons, Conan, Star Trek
  >                      Games.  NEW AND COMPLETLEY BBS READY!

Can you send me more info of this cd.  Like where did the ST gifs come from?
How much is on the disk.  Do you have a file list that I can download
somewhere, or that you can mail either to me here or to my internet address?
[e-mail]


Thanks for the info,

Brian


 * OLX 2.2 * <-- Put complaints in this box.


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From: REN JUST                               Number: 718
  To: STEVE LIN                                Date: 06/10/93  9:36p
Subj: LINUX CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Lots more means there are something like 34,000+ files on the CD-ROM.  That
includes kermit, uucp, sound card support, Ghostscript, TeX, xmodem, zmodem,
DOS emulation...  I think you are getting the picture.  The total is
something like 245MB for both the binaries and source for them.

If you want more information you can call me at 707-769-1648.  Or write

Just Computers!
P.O. Box 751414
Petaluma, CA 94975-1414

At $49.95 for this CD-ROM, it is an unbeatable deal.

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From: MARK SMITKA                            Number: 719
  To: RICK ASHWORTH                            Date: 06/11/93  8:03p
Subj: 7th guest trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Quoting Rick Ashworth's message to Mark Smitka, in pertinent part:

RA}I'm too tired to figger that out, so I'll take that as a compliment! <

I found humor in the fact that you were offering the Bible as a trade for
T7G. No offense intended. :-)

RA}Actually, I already have T7G, but I'll always try to scavenge extras
RA}for friends around here!  They're all jealous, and local outlets RA}are
sold out, except for Babbages for $79!

Got mine at a local show for $49. For you or anyone else interested, you
might try MicroLink at [phone]. They list it for $50 in their flyer.

===
 * WinQwk 2.0 a#720 * If that's my brain on drugs, can I get bacon with it?

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From: NATHAN KLASSEN                         Number: 720
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93 12:15p
Subj: 486/sx 33                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey if anyone has a deal on a 486/sx 33 mother board with 4 meg of ram let
me know and I might purcahse it!
Thanks
Nathan K.!

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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 721
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/11/93 10:16a
Subj: cd WinBox                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Mike

Was just wondering if you have started shipping cd winbox yet...Hope you have
received my moneyorder by now.......

..Red..

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 722
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93  2:59p
Subj: CdRom Drives                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00

Both Drives Include:  60 Day Warranty, External DIP switches, True 50 pin
  SCSI, 350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, newest ROM
  installed.  Diagnostic/cleaning done by service center.  NO special
  drivers required.  5.25 - Half Height Drive. 64k Buffer and manual.

205-837-5053 -=- Leave Message if not home, it WILL be returned -=-



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From: ANDY YEE                               Number: 723
  To: JOHN DECARLO                             Date: 06/12/93  3:11a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

how much are you asking for it?>


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From: ANDY YEE                               Number: 724
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 06/12/93  3:15a
Subj: Private Pictures CDROM                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

how much do you want for it?


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 725
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/11/93  3:30p
Subj: Windows Users!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                      -= CD PowerBox =-

Slated to be the new industry standard, the PowerBox is over 650 megs
of shareware!  This disk actually has BOTH a Windows-based and a
DOS-based Graphical User Interface!  Forget the Nightowl series, the
PowerBox offers an affordable option.  Only $19.95!

                       -= CD WinBox =-

This is THE Windows disk available today!  Supporting Win3.x AND the
new Windows NT, the WinBox has over 630 Megs of pure Windows
shareware.  Use the Windows based installation program to quickly
start accessing this disk with its Windows Graphical Interface!  Now
only $19.95!

Please mention this FidoNet ad to get these special prices!  These discs are
normally sold for $34 each to our "regular" customers.

Dave Reed
CD-ROM International
[phone] (Orders)
[phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS/Fax)

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From: PAUL HAMMERSCHMIDT                     Number: 726
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/11/93  2:57a
Subj: Problem with a CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi all... I have a Sony CDRom, and all of a sudden, the darn thing keeps
spitting out the disks. It won't let the caddy and the disk stay in the
drive.
When, on the rare occasion it does, when I try and access the drive, it says
that the drive won't respond. Any suggestions? It's only happening with the
Adult ROM that I use on my bbs, not with other roms. Could it be that the
disk
is defective/scratched and the laser won't read it????

Please help!

Thanks in advance,
Paul

... Keep Clinton warm this winter he hates the draft.
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From: DAN WAGNER                             Number: 727
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 06/09/93 10:21p
Subj: 4 EXTERNAL CD DRIVES $600               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,
Im interested in your 4 Hitachi drives. Do you have some specs on them?
Also what would you charge for shiping overseas to South Africa.
What types of payment would you accept?

Thanks
Dan Wagner
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From: JIM REED                               Number: 728
  To: JOSH BERRY                               Date: 06/10/93  4:13p
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JB>        If you have a Sound Blaster Pro or better you can look on

Hi Josh;
        Thanks for the info - You have me very close to upgrading my SB
        to a PRO.
                                /JIM/

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From: JIM REED                               Number: 729
  To: JERE WESSELL                             Date: 06/10/93  4:20p
Subj: asian ladies                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TH>-> -> I'm interested in the Asian Ladies CD.  Tell me more about it.
TH>-> ->
TH>-> ->                              Les
TH>-> good overall disk if you like oriental ladies.  Bunch of my older stu
TH>-> before i boight the hp scan jet IIc.  Not my best work.  Files.lst ar
TH>-> Jere, Sysop Nighthawk Adult Graphics

Hi Jere;
        Me thinks you underate yourself a little.  I for one am very
        pleased with AL.
                                /JIM/

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From: KEN CARPENTER                          Number: 730
  To: ROGER COLLINS                            Date: 06/09/93 10:02p
Subj: CorelDraw 3.0 CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RC>I'd be interested in buying your Word for Windows/Bookshelf CD for
RC>cash. How much you want? You may call me at 614-793-7291 if you'd
RC>like.

Sorry I sold the w4w/bs at work for $75.00 but thanks for the offer.



 * RM 1.0 00213 *


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From: DON HOUSTON                            Number: 731
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 06/12/93  6:43a
Subj: Gif/anim disks ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No


What is a good video disk for BBS use?  Looking for G Gifs of everything
under the sun.  Animations are optional.  Anyone got any recomendations. Also
looking for an R gif disk.  I have heard Giffy Gold is a pretty good one.
Any comments on it?  Any other recomendations?

        I am using SOFTWARE VAULT from American Data Bankers bot Vol. 1
        & Vol.2 All 1992 and some 1993 stuff. Nice folk. Their 800 # is
        775-4232. Reasonably priced and quality wares!
===
 * TLX v2.00 * Dogs crawl under gates, software crawls under Windoze....


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From: DOUG M VANVLEET                        Number: 732
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/11/93 10:58p
Subj: Hitachi Card                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello folks,
    I'm in the market for a reasonably priced contoller card for a Hitachi
CDR-3500 internal drive.  If you have one that you're wanted to part with,
please reply via this echo, netmail, or you may call voice at 919-7865662.
I'm located in North Carolina.  Thanks!

                                Doug M Vanvleet
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 733
  To: CHRIS KOPENEC                            Date: 06/13/93 11:28a
Subj: NEW CATALOG IS DONE!                    Refer: 4151
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Please send one to me, too.

Chris, don't post multiple "send me a catalog" messages... Do it only
once.

tim
moderator
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From: BEN NATION                             Number: 734
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93 12:47p
Subj: items for sale or trade...              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Nix Pix Hot Pix 1 (new, the banned one) -value $100-$115, will sell for $75

XXX Extreme -value $40-$59, will sell for $30

So Much Shareware 2 -value $35-$45, will sell for $25

Face Plate for a Full Tower Case (6 exposed 5 1/4's, 2 exposed 3 1/2's,
Digital display, power/turbo/hdd lights, sleek design) $30

Eye of the Beholder with clue book - $20

... will also consider trades. I'm looking for an IDE 60+ Meg drive, or 386
40MHZ MB, or 4 - 1Meg Simms (1x3x70). Will consider all offers. Call
voice 904-779-7994, BBS 904-777-0778, or E-mail.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 735
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/12/93  8:04a
Subj: Info                                    Refer: NONE
Read: 06/14/93  6:49a                       Private: No

 TH> Sen.
 TH>
 TH> United States Senate
 TH> Washington, D.C.


Thanks, Tim. My copy goes out today.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 736
  To: TONY D. BERRY                            Date: 06/12/93  8:08a
Subj: Private Pictures CDROM                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TD> For faster response, feel free to call me at [phone].


Got your message of Friday, 6/11 - called back and left a message. All
four "Mega" CDs for $75+$2.90 is the best I can do.
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From: DOUG MILLER                            Number: 737
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/12/93 10:23a
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>I am now sending out our new CD-Rom catalog from Computer Works.
JL>Anyone
JL>wishing to be added to our mailing list, please leave me a
JL>message with
JL>your address.  Specify if you are interested in adult titles.
JL>Thanks!

JL>                                                        Jim...
JL>Computer Works
JL>CD-Rom Sales!
JL>[phone] Voice
JL>[phone] BBS

Please add me to your mailing list...

        Doug Miller
        5409 Princess Ct.
        Lake Dallas, TX  75065

Anyother Retailers feel free to send your catalog

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From: BRIAN BUCK                             Number: 738
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/11/93  9:12p
Subj: CD Software Catalog                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Jim!
I would also like a copy of your latest CDROM software catalog that lists
ALL titles you sell.
You may forward it to:

Brian Buck
37252 Belcrest Drive
Sterling Hgts, MI  48312

Much appreciated,
Brian

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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 739
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/12/93  8:16a
Subj: Florida Lion's Den In                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

|LN> DC>> I missed you too.  Checked at the TradeShows booth on Mon, Tue, an|
|LN> DC>> Wed......oh well........Picked up a BB while I was there.         |
|LN>                                                                        |
|LN> Well, your going to have to meet me to get Busty Babes II :)           |
|LN>                                                                        |
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I hope I don't have to wait until November for it.......by that time
III should be out.....eh?

Regarding Shareware CD-Roms and the problems to be faced with
publishing such a disk in the future:  What is it that shareware
authors are sueing over.  It would seem to me that they have more to
gain than to lose if their product is distributed.  I can understand
that they get upset over these stupid publishers that remove files
from the distribution archive.....maybe they should make a statement
more boldly telling the public of the possible fines for distributing
a tampered archive.....and not be so picky with requiring a release.
I know of some authors that will never be included in a ROM....based
upon their response time's to messages of a technical nature left for
them on their BBS's.  Well, please enlighten me.
___
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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 740
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 06/11/93  8:16p
Subj: MITSUMI AUDIO                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BF>Odd - I can play audio on MY Mitsumi under Desqview here....

 Through the Headphone jack on front, or through soundblaster's audio
output, wiring Mitsumi's outputs into the Soundblaster's input...

...tim klan
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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 741
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 06/11/93  8:19a
Subj: I AGREE!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

People could make the replys short. NO >quotes>

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From: HOWARD ONEIL                           Number: 742
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93  4:52a
Subj: Trade Wanted                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The following items are For Sale or Trade.

ITEM 1 : Omega 120,000 Volt Stun Gun  (In Box, Excellent Condition).

        FEATURES : Seperate On/Off Switch for safety.
                   Uses 2-9 Volt Alkaline or Rechargable Batteries.
                   Has Belt Clip and will disable 300 pound person
                   in less than 6 seconds. "To see EXACTLY what
                   this looks like see Batman Returns (the Movie)
                             Not a cheapie, Cost $100.00

ITEM 2 : Akai Integrated Stereo Amp  (Good Condition & works like new).

        FEATURES : Dual Tape inputs, magnetic phono & tuner inputs.
                   Subsonic Filters and has 45 Watts RMS per channel.

                   GREAT FOR A PERSON OFF TO COLLEGE

ITEM 3 : Mitsubshi 1.2 Meg 5 1/4" floppy. (Excellent Condition,
                   Pulled from working system). GRAY

ITEM 4 : VLSI Mini 80286 Motherboard w/512k. (Good condition,
                   No Documentation, w/EMS software).

        FEATURES : Phoenix Bios & expandable to 4 megs on board,
                   using Sipp or Dram.
                   Original costs $100.00

ITEM 5 : DAEWOO 2 head VCS Video Tape recorder with remote.

        FEATURES : Remote programming, Day, Date, Time & Speed.
                   All features programable from remote or unit.
                   Excellent condition.  Cost $189.00

I would like to trade these items individually or together for the following.

Looking for : 1) Working Dot Matrix Printer.  Wide carriage.

              2) 80 Meg MFM Hard Drive (Seagate 4096) to 120 meg.
                 or IDE w/controller, or comparable drive.

              3) VGA Color or Monochrome Monitor. W/ minimum of
                 800 x 600 resolution.

              4) Mitsumi or other Internal or External CD ROM drive.

All items I've listed are in GOOD to EXCELLENT condition and those offered in
trade should be in same and guarenteed against D.O.A. or make cash offers.


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 743
  To: BOB HART                                 Date: 06/11/93 12:31a
Subj: WANTED:CD ROM DRIVE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I am looking for an ext. cd-rom drive; used or new it
-> doesn't matter,and if possible around $200.

Hi Bob,
I have some used (great condition) Hitachi drives for sale. Call my BBS
if you are interested.  Prices as follows:
Bare 1503S External drive    $106.00
interface card               $71.00
Cable                        $13.00
Card and cable are new. So its under $200.oo complete, and you can daisy
chain 4 drives off one controller....
Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE BBS
517-892-5079
Fido 1:239/675


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 744
  To: CURT LARSON                              Date: 06/11/93 12:38a
Subj: Need a SCSI CD-ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I am looking to buy an external, fully daisy-chainable, preferably ne
-> CD-ROM drive.  Speed is of no essence and I don't necessarily need to
-> controller.  Please respond here or call [phone].  Thanks.

Hi Curt,
I have some great shape used Hitachi Externals that are proprietery, but
daisy chainable up to 4 units on one card....
Bare Drive External 1503S         $106.00
Interface Card                    $71.00
Cable                             $13.00
So you can have 4 drives for under $500!
My BBS Number is below!
Matt Bedtelyon - SysOp
MEG*A*BITE BBS
517-892-5079 14.4
Fido 1:239/675


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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 745
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/11/93  1:02a
Subj: CDROMS for sale!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

@0C@**************************************
@0C@*@07@ @0F@  @07@  @0F@Used Hitachi CD-ROM@07@ @0F@Drives  @07@   @0C
@0C@*@07@             @0F@For Sale!!!!@07@           @0C@*
@0C@*@07@       @0F@External 1503S Caddyless @07@    @0C@*
@0C@**************************************
@0A@For those of you who missed out on the first drives
@0A@I had, more are now available... These drives are
@0A@perfect for BBS operations, and can be @0F@daisy chained
@0A@together up to 4 drives on @0F@one@07@ @0A@interface card.
@0A@Many of you know the reliablity of these units, so
@0A@if you are interested, @0F@call today!
@0C@Bare drives               $106.00@07@ @0C@used, but great shape!
@0C@Interface card             $71.00@07@ @0C@new
@0C@Cable                      $13.00@07@ @0C@new
@0D@30 day warranty by me! You pay the shipping!
@0D@Call my BBS at: @0F@[phone] 14.4 @0D@if you
@0D@are interested, @0B@supplies are limited!
Matt Bedtelyon - SysOp
@0D@MEG@07@*@0E@A@07@*@09@BITE @07@BBS
P.O. Box 21
Essexville, MI 48732-0021
Fido 1:239/675




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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 746
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93  6:02p
Subj: NEC drive for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

NEC external CDROM CDR36 w/8bit controller...$200..........used

James F. Porter
[phone]
 ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Who said that Interstellar Empires don't exit?


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From: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                       Number: 747
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/11/93  1:05a
Subj: Re: PIER 2 NOW SHIPPING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike, what's the overlap of Pier 1 and 2- are they just updates? Also, the
same question with Owl 7 and 8. Thanks!

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From: CLIFF ESHOM                            Number: 748
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/11/93  2:27p
Subj: games to trade?                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    would like to trade the following floppys for CD(s),

             1.   Harpoon (modern naval war)
              2.   Echelon (3-D space flight sim.)
               3.   Where in time is Carmen Sandiego?
                4.   Sargon III Chess
                 5.   PT-109 (Torpedo boat sim.)
                  6.   The Print Shop;
                   7.   Megafortress (B-52 sim.)
                    8.   Sidekick (Borland TSR destop organizer unopened)
                     9.   PC-Link Online Program

    original boxes with doc's. Call [phone]  or leave message here.


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From: JOHN DECARLO                           Number: 749
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/12/93  8:15p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On <Jun 09 17:19>, Terry Woodward (1:369/14) wrote:

JD>>Yes, sale or trade.  Make an offer.

 TW >Which FAO? Got ARL? Pc-Pix II? Smutware? MPC II?

All I have is FAO I.  I am not all that interested in graphic X stuff, so I
find this of limited use.  I would like to trade it for a disk with more
plain nudes on it.  Any suggestions?

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From: NILL TOULME                            Number: 750
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/11/93 10:34a
Subj: RULES                                   Refer: NONE
Read: 06/14/93  6:53a                       Private: No

Tim, what are the rules governing posting of price lists in this echo...
frequency, message length, etc.?

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 751
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93  2:26p
Subj: Wanted...7th guest                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anyone have 7th guest for sale (used)
I would prefer the whole package, box docs, video.
thanks...


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From: JON R. HENDRIX                         Number: 752
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93  8:26a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM CATALOG                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send me one of your catalogues -
Jon Hendrix
8800 Eucalyptus Ave
Muncie, IN 47304

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From: BRYAN SPEED                            Number: 753
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  1:43a
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does the Mitsumi $200 dollar drives allow more than one drive to be
installed. If so, and you have a config.sys/Autoexec.bat you can send
netmail or post here , i would really appreciate it!
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From: KAMAL HAFFAR                           Number: 754
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/12/93  3:50p
Subj: My cds order!!!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mike, Have you had  any luck tracking down those three cds you sent me
on May 21st, I still haven't received them.

I am really anxious to get those cds, especially the pier2 since I have
promised my bbs users that it was going to be up and running at least a week
ago.  You can imagine the amount of messages I have received from my users
enquiring about those disks.

I would appreciate some follow up.

If you wish to reach me by voice you can call 519-250-9031, or send me a
netmail message at 1:246/14.

Thanks in advance.

Kamal

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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 755
  To: STEPHEN GUPTON                           Date: 06/12/93  6:27p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Stephen!

In a message to Mark Abbacchi <06/10/93> Stephen Gupton wrote:

SG> In a msg on <Jun1018:46, Mark Abbacchi of 1:100/550 writes:


SG>  MA> Games 1993     $25.00  **NEW** 6000 files... Completely BBS ready
SG>      Most distributers have removed this disk from their line because it'
SG> really messed up. I attempted to call voice and netmail and recieved no
SG> reply, I posted here as a last resort.

Thanks for the info.. however.. the disk gets more compliments from more
folks than many others..  We warn folks that it isn't the greatest disk
in the world.. however.. it does have MANY MANY new files on it.  As far
as complaints.. well Shareware 1993.. DEFINITELY.. but not Games 1993..
We are 100% honest with our customers.. let them know up front about
verions duping etc.. however... after taking a REALLY good look at the
disk.. well.. it isn't really all that bad for a game disk.. according
to our CUSTOMERS... not us.  Not arguing with you mind you.. just
letting you know.  We have sold well over 200 of them.. and have had I
think TWO complaints.. Customer satisfaction is our 100% goal.. as long
as you sell the disk and let the customer know up front what the
problems could be.. well.. most folks have no problem with that.
It's our 800 number they're on anyway.. as they say.. an ounce of
prevention is worth a pound of cure? <grin>

At least it's virus free (to my knowledge anyway).. runs on a Mitsumi
drive with no problems... Does have a LOT of new stuff on it...and is
priced fairly inexpensive... That's 1000% more than I can say for some
disks that sell for TWICE the price of this disk! <G>

We advise folks to use it as a supplemental disk...  so that they can
have a larger game file area if that's what they are looking for. One
man actually called back and said it's now is favorite resource disk for
good games... I stopped a while back trying to "guess" what folks will
like and what they won't like.  IF there are some problems... we tell them
about them... that's the fairest way... if they aren't interested in the
particular disk anymore.. then we attempt to satisfy their needs with
something else.

Thanks for your reply again Stephen... Appreciate the fact that you were
looking out for us! Teamwork in the echoes is rare... and is always
welcome! <grin>


Mark
The MARKetplace
1-800-289-1ROM




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From: JERRY MASON                            Number: 756
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93 12:06p
Subj: Cd rom mailing list                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you have a catalog please put me on your list.

Jerry Mason
5111 Belcamp Lane
Charlotte, NC
28215


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 757
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: Various                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KR>Could you please give me info on the following titles?
KR>-Readers library
KR>-Reference library
KR>-Shakespear
KR>-Electronic Home Library
KR>-Languages of the World
KR>-Library of the Future #1
KR>-World Atlas MPC

Kirk,

In the interest of saving space here, give me a call, and I'll run down
as many as you want, or give me your address, and I can send you one of
our catalogs with descriptions!

Later,
.\\ike        509-457-2892
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 758
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: Shareware cd comparisons                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PJ>In your next comparison, could you include some windows shareware cds,
like
PJ>cd-winbox... ect. ? thanks

Paul,

Sure - just as soon as I get my hands on some Winboxes!

Bye,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 759
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: Cd powerbox disc                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PJ>COuld you give me some stats on cd-power box? (i'm in the market for the
BEST
PJ>shareware cd)

Paul,

650+ megs, around 60/40 1992/1991 files.  Over 6000 files in all.  Full
FILES.BBS listings, with over 50 file areas.  At 23 smackers, not a bad
CD at all, but if you already have Night Owl 7, you probably don't need
this one.  Give me a call and we can discuss more!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 760
  To: CARLOS RODRIGUEZ                         Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISO                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CR>  >     PR1   PR2   NO7   NO8   SS1   SS2   MON   SC2   SV1   CDP   SWO
CR>  >   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
CR>  >PR1| .06%| .23%| 1.8%| 6.5%| 3.2%| 7.2%| 7.6%| 6.5%| .70%| 2.1%| 4.5%|
CR>  >   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+

CR>Am I reading this chart correctly?  I'm not trying to be a smart ***
CR>but looking at pr1 compared to pr1, shouldn't it be 100% duplicate
CR>files since it is the same CD?  Same for pr2, and no7?  The way I'm

Carlos,

Sorry - I wasn't very clear here.  The identical CD comparisons above
reflect the percentage of dupes WITHIN a given CD.  I've re-posted the
chart in this packet, with a line added to make it more understandable.

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 761
  To: TYLER A. WUNDER                          Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TAW>     <sigh> Despite the fact that no one seems to want to give out any
TAW>information on the cds they advertise in this forum, I'm going to ask yet
ag
TAW>for some filling in on the contents of cds that look interesting.

TAW> MS>  Bible Library.................31.00

CA75 BIBLE LIBRARY - Nine Bibles and 20 reference books with concordances.
Also has five word studies, 3000 sermon outlines, two commentaries,
and eight dictionaries. DOS

TAW> MS>  Bibles & Religion.............16.50

CA37 BIBLES & RELIGION - All popular New & Old Testament versions.
Includes Talmud portions, Book of Mormon, lexicons, concordances,
study guides, organization membership and fund-raising programs, many
translations including Greek. Also covers Judaism and Islam. DOS

TAW> MS>  CIA World Fact Book...........24.00

CA80 CIA WORLD FACT BOOK - Our government's own World Almanac and
figures for 249 countries and territories worldwide. Includes geography,
government, economics, communications, military, environment, drugs,
claims, treaties, etc. Filled with interesting stats that we'll bet
you didn't know! DOS

TAW> MS>    Shakespeare...................17.50

CA235 SHAKESPEARE - Complete collection of Shakespeare's works, including
37 plays, and 159 poems and sonnets. Provided in original form (Queen's
English), and plain English. DOS MAC

Tyler - Hope that answers most of your questions.  Give me a call if you
want, and we can cuss and discuss. <g>

Bye,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 762
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TS> MS>  Nix Pix Hot Pix 2.............34.50    Storm

TS>Mike, do you stock Nix Pix I ?

No.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 763
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD COMPARISONS                Refer: NONE
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BJ> MS> Are my figures still suspect? <g>

BJ>Nope! You've cleared that up. I suspect others had a similar
BJ>interpretation, tho'. Boy, I wish that program was smart enough to work
BJ>on image CDs! I guess it might as long as the same image was always
BJ>tagged with the same title - too much to ask, I guess :( .  Well, if Lee
BJ>Noga's right, we won;t have to put up with re-hashed files much longer.
BJ>Can't wait for that day <GGG>.

Yeah, you're right.  With all the file renaming that goes on with adult
titles, a direct comparison might not be very accurate, but it would
still be fun to do!  If I can find another couple of free hours, I
might do it anyway. <g>

Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 764
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
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CS>Looking for a copy of Microsoft's Bookshelf 1991 addition.  ALSO Info. on
the
CS>MIDI Music Shop.

Clint,

We have Bookshelf '92 in stock at $58.00.  We also carry MIDI Music Shop
at $32.00.  MIDI Music Shop essentially contains 3 commercial MIDI-
related programs to let you create, edit, and otherwise manipulate the
files.  They are: Music Mentor, Recording Session, and World of Music
Sampler.  Also has lots of sample sound files.  (I have a hard time keeping
this disc in stock!)

Call if I can be of further assistance,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 765
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: Is this "service" ???                   Refer: NONE
Read: 06/14/93  7:07a                       Private: No

TH>-> No greetz to ya, Mike! Lotta words but poor action if you ask me!

TH>Don't use this echo to vent hostilities.  Pick up the damn phone & call
TH>Mike if you're having trouble with his service...

Tim,

He sent Netmail to Dave's board which I never received, so I guess that's
why he's angry.  No problem with our service, just our communication! <g>

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 766
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: CD COMPARISONS                          Refer: NONE
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------------------------------------------------------------------------
                SHAREWARE CD-ROM DUPLICATION COMPARISONS
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           Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.0

PR1 = PIER1                PR2 = PIER2                 NO7 = NIGHT OWL 7
SS1 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 1   SS2 = SHAREWARE STUDIO 2    NO8 = NIGHT OWL 8
SC2 = SUPER CD 2           SV1 = SOFTWARE VAULT        CDP = CD POWERBOX
SWO = SHAREWARE ONLINE     MON = MONSTER DISC

           % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
          ---------------------------------------------------
>>   Note:  Diagonal reflects % of INTERNAL dupes within a given CD.  <<

     PR1   PR2   NO7   NO8   SS1   SS2   MON   SC2   SV1   CDP   SWO
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
PR1| .06%| .23%| 1.8%| 6.5%| 3.2%| 7.2%| 7.6%| 6.5%| .70%| 2.1%| 4.5%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
PR2| .23%| .00%| .09%| .43%| .34%| 2.5%| 1.7%| .85%| .40%| .18%| .19%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
NO7| 1.8%| .09%| .06%| .57%| 5.0%| 7.4%|34.0%| 9.9%| 1.2%|77.3%| 7.0%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
NO8| 6.5%| .43%| .57%| .24%| 1.4%| 7.0%| 4.9%|46.3%| 1.0%| .89%| 1.8%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SS1| 3.2%| .34%| 5.0%| 1.4%| .15%| .16%| 7.6%| 3.4%| 2.3%| 7.3%| 7.4%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SS2| 7.2%| 2.5%| 7.4%| 7.0%| .16%| .01%|14.8%|11.3%| 4.7%| 7.2%| 7.1%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
MON| 7.6%| 1.7%|34.0%| 4.9%| 7.6%|14.8%| .91%|15.4%| .54%|24.2%|19.1%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SC2| 6.5%| .85%| 9.9%|46.3%| 3.4%|11.3%|15.4%| 1.3%| .70%| 9.0%| 2.9%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SV1| .70%| .40%| 1.2%| 1.0%| 2.3%| 4.7%| .54%| .70%| 2.6%| 3.3%| 1.1%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
CDP| 2.1%| .18%|77.3%| .89%| 7.3%| 7.2%|24.2%| 9.0%| 3.3%| .23%| 7.0%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
SWO| 4.5%| .19%| 7.0%| 1.8%| 7.4%| 7.1%|19.1%| 2.9%| 1.1%| 7.0%| .84%|
   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+

        PRICES
        ------
        PIER 1..............29.00      PIER 2..............45.00
        NIGHT OWL 7.........25.00      NIGHT OWL 8.........33.50
        SHAREWARE STUDIO 1..21.00      SHAREWARE STUDIO 2..27.00
        MONSTER DISC 2-PAK..44.00      SUPER CD 2..........29.00
        SOFTWARE VAULT......26.00      CD POWERBOX.........23.00
        SHAREWARE ONLINE....29.00

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 767
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: JUNE CD PRICES 1/2                      Refer: NONE
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 7th Guest (Wow!)..............55.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...44.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........37.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 American Business Phonebk 1...19.00    Mother of All Clipart (New!)..24.00
 American Business Phonebk 2...28.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Amiga AB20....................16.50    National Business Directory...39.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.50    National Parks................32.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.50    Night Owl 4.2.................22.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Night Owl 5.0.................23.00
 Audubon's Birds...............27.00    Night Owl 6.1.................24.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............27.00    Night Owl 7.0.................25.00
 Barney Bear School or Space...22.00    Night Owl 8.0.................33.50
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 7/8 2-Pak...........55.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 5/6/7/8 4-Pak.......99.00
 Bible Library.................31.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Bibles & Religion.............16.50    North American Fax Book.......49.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Ocean Digital Imagery.........45.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Original Shareware 1992.......18.00
 Business Master...............20.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...25.00
 C User's Group Library........31.50    Our Solar System..............16.50
 California Collection.........17.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....33.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    PC-SIG #10....................28.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-SIG #12....................30.00
 CD-PowerBox...................23.00    PC Gameroom...................28.50
 CD-ROM Grab Bag (4 CD's)......29.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CD Grab Bag (1 CD)............19.00    Phoenix 3.0...................19.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pier 1........................29.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........24.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............45.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....54.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (New!)......28.00
 Clipart Galore................32.50    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........128.00
 Clipart Goliath...............16.50    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........29.00    Programmer's MegaPack (New!)..34.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............16.50    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Complete Bookshop.............16.50    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Composer Quest................38.50    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Compton's Interactive Ency...109.00    Publisher's Paradise (New!)...35.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....79.00    Reader's Library..............32.50
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....79.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Conan the Cimmerian...........35.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....38.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....39.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...43.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........29.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's & Sound)........28.50
 Crossword Cracker.............24.50    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! I...........20.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! II..........25.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......16.50    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Shareware Online (All 1992)...29.00
 Desktop Bookshop (New!).......28.50    Shareware Overload............16.50
 Dictionaries & Languages......16.50    Shareware Studio I............21.00
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Shareware Studio II (New!)....27.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Education Master..............20.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 768
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: JUNE CD PRICES 2/2                      Refer: NONE
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Empire Clipart................29.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......28.00    So Much Shareware I...........22.50
 Encyclopedia of Sound (New!)..22.00    So Much Shareware II..........29.50
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Software Vault I..............25.00
 Font Master I.................19.00    Software Vault II (New!)......29.00
 Font Master II................28.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..34.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    Sound Sensations..............16.50
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Front Page News...............26.00    SoundWAV (New!)...............29.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Game Pack II..................27.00    Space Quest IV................25.00
 Games 1993 (New!).............28.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Sporting News.................26.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Gigabyte Gold.................25.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Global Explorer (New!)........97.00    Street Atlas USA..............88.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Super CD......................23.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Super CD II (New!)............29.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Super Games For Windows.......18.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.50
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...27.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.50
 Hacker Chronicles.............27.00    Technotools...................16.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................16.50    Tempra Access Photo Software..32.50
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 House of Games................29.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Illustrated Holy Bible........49.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Too Many Typefonts............16.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Toolworks Ill. Ency. 2.0......39.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Toolworks MM Ency. 5.0........49.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Toolworks MPC Ency. 1.0.......49.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Total Baseball................35.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 King's Quest V................25.00    VGA Spectrum I................17.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    VGA Spectrum II...............25.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    Visions of Saturn (New!)......25.00
 Library of the Future #1......54.50    Vital Signs...................39.00
 Lion's Share..................28.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Window Master.................20.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........39.00    Windoware.....................16.50
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windows 1993..................28.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Windows Shareware Gold........37.00
 Magnum One Shareware..........29.00    Wing Commander II Deluxe......58.00
 Manhole.......................37.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Marketing Master 1992.........19.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    WizPak........................17.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............35.00    World Atlas MPC...............29.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 MIDI Music Shop...............32.00    World View....................24.00
 Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50    World Vision 3-Pak (New!).....47.00
 Monarch Notes.................64.00    Wrath of the Demon............38.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 769
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  1:33a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$$$$$                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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 June 1993                ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 6/10
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    Porkware......................37.00
 Animation Fantasies I.........30.00    Porkware II (New!)............37.00
 Animation Fantasies II........30.00    Private Collection I..........35.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection II.........35.00
 Busty Babes...................33.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics I............33.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Giffy Gold ("R"-rated)........39.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................34.50    SeXXcapades The Movie.........59.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................34.50    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................34.50    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............34.50    Storm I.......................25.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......28.00    Storm II......................30.00
 Moving Fantasies..............30.00    Storm III.....................31.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....65.00    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).65.00    Swimwear & More (New!)........29.00
 PC-PIX 1......................32.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 PC-PIX 2......................32.00    Tropical Girls (Closeout).....25.00
 PC-PIX 3......................32.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 PC-PIX 3-Pak..................85.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 Physical Therapy..............22.50    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

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 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 770
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/12/93  6:51p
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
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> uncensored, and many of the stories involve incest/beastiality
> etc--Please take the time to screen them if you plan to distribute
> them-No publisher wants to read hundreds of stories to screen out those
> that are Federally Obscene, much to time consuming.
If I remember correctly, you had a partner (Blaine I think). What happened to
him? Is it possible for you to provide his mailing address for me? or a
telephone number? Thanks

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 771
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/12/93  6:53p
Subj: Re: GEEZ                                Refer: NONE
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> that number for other things--So, IMHO, judging successful companies with
> 800 numbers is a little bias :)
Also they provide 800 numbers to only to reputable companies with good
payment history.

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From: MAHMUT KURSUN                          Number: 772
  To: STEVE LIN                                Date: 06/11/93 11:27a
Subj: LINUX CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
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 >> LINUX, a UNIX operating system workalike now available
 >> on CD-ROM.  Includes GNU C/C++ compiler, X-Windows,
 >> TCP/IP, sound card support and much more.  Only $49.95.

 > When you say "much more", are you talking about just the basic LINUX
 > setup, or lots of stuff enough to fill the CD to 600+ Mb?

This is the Linux Beta CDROM. The Alpha CDROM has 150 MB, the beta
now have 350 MB.

There is a Production release planned. I guess this one will hit the
600 MB, but it could take another half year for the production Release,
because it was planned for february 92 and it is not out already.

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From: KEITH HERALD                           Number: 773
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/12/93  9:03p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-sale or trade...           Refer: NONE
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 SS> I have STORM II adult CD-ROM for sale or trade, I would prefer
 SS> to trade...        Leave message here if interested...
 SS> ---

        I have the Stareware CD that I will trade you for your STORM II.



Keith Herald

... A hard man is good to find.
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From: JOHN CARROLL                           Number: 774
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/11/93  7:29p
Subj: catalog                                 Refer: NONE
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Jim, please send me your cd-rom catalog

John Carroll PO Box 650481 Vero Beach, Fl. 32965-0481

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From: WARREN DANIO                           Number: 775
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 06/12/93  1:56a
Subj: I agree!                                Refer: NONE
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* Paul Janel said to Kirk Rawnsley, the following:
PJ > I agree, if the "reply to catalog" messages take up to much
PJ > HD space then buy a bigger HD. This echo is meant for
PJ > cd-stuff, and catalogs has alot to do with it.
        Are you offering to contribute to a sysops Hard Drive and
        telephone bill? I doubt it. or are you just to cheap to pay
        for a stamp or a phone call     Warren

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 776
  To: NILL TOULME                              Date: 06/14/93  7:04a
Subj: RULES                                   Refer: 4192
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Tim, what are the rules governing posting of price lists in this echo
-> frequency, message length, etc.?

Nothing is etched in stone... Just use your common sense and don't over
do it.  Over doing it would be if you posted a 50 line ad ever other
day, singing the same ol' tune & boring the rest of us to tears.

Advertising in this echo is like advertising in a magazine -
presentation is more important than volume.  My own personal opinion is
that it's better to have a 90% chance of driving home *one* point than
it is to have a 5% chance of driving home many... Keep in mind that the
readers of this echo (just like readers of a magazine) make 2 second
decisions as to whether or not to read a given ad... Because of that, I
personally prefer ads that are short & sweet & illustrate a specific
point - ads that will grab the user's attention.

tim
moderator
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From: JOHN DECARLO                           Number: 777
  To: ANDY YEE                                 Date: 06/13/93 12:49p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On <Jun 12 03:11>, Andy Yee (1:134/2006) wrote:

 AY >how much are you asking for it?>

I guess around $25, which seems to be a standard price.

I would rather trade it for a different one, though.

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From: JIM SHARRER                            Number: 778
  To: BRIAN WHEATLEY                           Date: 06/12/93  4:53a
Subj: Cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Just wondering everyone, is 700ms to slow to use a CD-ROM for a BBS?
-> Like a shareware cd, for downloading etc... Thanks...

Brian,

I'm using a Sony rated at 600ms, and with PCBoards indexing feature, its
fine.  Without the indexing and minimal buffers, a search could take up
to 45 seconds; with a 1 meg buffer and no indexing, up to 11 seconds,
and with the indexing and a small buffer, searches take less than 4
seconds. Also note that this was on a multiline BBS across a network.
If its a single line, I think it'll be fine.

Hope this helped some...

...Jim...


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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 779
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/12/93 11:30p
Subj: Karoake CD-Rom                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

.

Moderator:  Sorry this should be going NetMail; I have temporarily
lost access, but it will be fixed within a day or two.....


Lee -

06 Jun 93, Lee Noga writes to Doug Carpenter:

   > I fell in love with the PC Karoake software for windows, the one
   > with the mike and 25 songs. Well, at CES I became a dealer and
   > we are trying to get them to put all available songs on CD-ROM-+-

Now you're talking MY business!

We've been (we = "Blank Productions", Bob Blank - my partner, and myself)
producing Karoake tracks for almost eight years now, and have built up a
sizable library (over a thousand titles).  We own full rights to the
recordings.

I'd like to speak with you about the possibility of licensing these tracks
to FLD for production of such a disc.

I'll try to reach you via voice (I found your number after I NetMailed you
last week).  If I don't reach you before you receive this, would you give
me a call, please?  Incidentally, I'll be away on business for the entire
month of July.  =HUGS=  (Hey - If YOU can, I can! <g> )

                                                  - Arnie :+}

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 780
  To: TONY D. BERRY                            Date: 06/13/93  2:45a
Subj: Private Pictures CDROM                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CB>> I have one copy of the cdrom disc Private Pictures for sale.

 TDB> How 'bout $15 plus $2.90?

I'm sorry, but I have an offer of $20 so far.

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From: BEN BYRD                               Number: 781
  To: PAUL HAMMERSCHMIDT                       Date: 06/12/93  9:14p
Subj: Problem with a CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PH>Hi all... I have a Sony CDRom, and all of a sudden, the darn thing keeps
PH>spitting out the disks. It won't let the caddy and the disk stay in the
driv
PH>When, on the rare occasion it does, when I try and access the drive, it
says
PH>that the drive won't respond. Any suggestions? It's only happening with
the
PH>Adult ROM that I use on my bbs, not with other roms. Could it be that the
di
PH>is defective/scratched and the laser won't read it????

PH>Please help!

It should make a difference if it's strached.  Butt who knows with the
way things are made.  Take your BBs off line and see if any other disks
work in it.  If you don't have another disk get one from a BBs SysOp you
know and like you should let you bore it for a day are two.  If the
drive doesn't work I'll buy it from you (To take a part and see how they
work).  Tell if it works.  Oh and if the Cd is bad and you have had it
for a while then I will pay for it to be shipped at here so that I can
make a clock out of it.  Bye Ben Byrd (Byrd as in Bird).

 * SLMR 2.1a * Buddhism means never having to say you're sorry.


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From: PAUL HAMMERSCHMIDT                     Number: 782
  To: BEN BYRD                                 Date: 06/13/93  4:01a
Subj: Re: Problem with a CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I overheard Ben Byrd saying to Paul Hammerschmidt something about
Problem with a CD

Hi Ben Byrd!

 BB> It should make a difference if it's strached.  Butt who knows with the
 BB> way things are made.  Take your BBs off line and see if any other
 BB> disks work in it.
I have several other disks, and they all work. So I guess it might be the
disk...


Paul
... Life's a bleach, then you dye...
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From: LJUBOMIR BRADIC                        Number: 783
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/11/93 11:13p
Subj: Simms for sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have brand new samsung 4 x 256K simms for sale (80ns). Ask $35. Drop a line
if interested.

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From: MARK SMITKA                            Number: 784
  To: ADRIAN PENDELL                           Date: 06/13/93 12:22p
Subj: 7th guest...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Quoting Adrian Pendell's message to All, in pertinent part:

AP}        I have really been wanting to buy this game, and, infact, AP}
   actually had taken it up to the register to buy it when I AP}
noticed the box said it requires an SVGA monitor w/ 1 meg RAM AP}        -is
this true? If so, it seems a real dissapointment......

The Seventh Guest is like to other game I've seen. It really "pushes the
envelope" with respect to video compression, graphics, and sound technology.
If you want to be able to run the most demanding software, you'll have to
provide the hardware. Believe me, Trilobyte and whatever future software they
create, are the best reasons I've seen so far to justify my harware
investment.

===
 * WinQwk 2.0 a#720 * If that's my brain on drugs, can I get bacon with it?

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From: ADAM GILBERT                           Number: 785
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 06/13/93  3:24p
Subj: CdRom Drives                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Are you considering trades on either drive? I will give you a 42mb IDE hard
drive and a 20mb MFM hard drive for the second drive if you are intersted.
Call me at [phone].
Thanks

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From: JIM STALLINGS                          Number: 786
  To: HOWARD ONEIL                             Date: 06/13/93  2:16p
Subj: Trade Wanted                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

testing
--- MacWoof Eval:24May93
 * Origin: From the desk of Jim Stallings, Indian Head,
(1:109/70.846@fidonet)
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From: PAUL ELLIOTT                           Number: 787
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  3:38p
Subj: BBS Ready Sharware CD-ROM, Over 6000 Programs, Only $39.95  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  The 640 Meg Shareware Studio Volume II
"The Best Shareware CD-ROM on the market!!"

Just Released!!!   ******** Only 39.95 ********

Total Size = 637 Megabytes Compressed
Total Files = 6659

FILES.BBS description files. The disc is totally BBS ready,
contains 1992 & 1993 Shareware!

ACCESS.EXE, a slick user interface. ACCESS allows the end user to access and
search the disc from a scrollable display of the filenames and their
discriptions.
The features of this incredible program make it the industry's #1 shareware
CD interface.

All files are free of archive errors, archive comments, BBS ads, AV codes,
and
all known computer viruses. Also, all archive dates match the last date
within
the archive.

Every effort has been made to avoid having multiple versions of the same
software.
There are no duplicates between Volume I and Volume II.

The directory names are representative of the  directory's content. All
directories are off the root directory. 98% of the files are in .ZIP format.


                                        Qty.           Sub. Total
Shareware Studio Volume II  $39.95  x  ______     =    _______
Shareware Studio Volume I   $25.00  x  ______     =    _______
Volume I & Volume II        $59.00  x  ______     =    _______

Postage & Handling          $1.50   x  ______     =    _______


                        Total =    _______


Send Check, Money Order and this form to:

                                IBEX
                P.O. Box 142
                                Lookout Mountain, TN 37350

Dealer Inquiries or More Info Call 1-615-870-9740 Voice.

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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 788
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  9:49a
Subj: 4sale or trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

****************************Please Pay
Attention******************************
 I have the following items for sale or trade.

89' White Cadillac-vinyl top,blue leather int,2nd owner--no trade--$12,500

Terminator 2029---awesome sci-fi game   DacEasy Accounting Software--great

Sony CD-ROM---CDU535 150k/sec  comes with all needed cables

LOOM---CD-ROM game--real voices and cool music

3 new printer cables    PC-Logic 9600 baud modem w\ Prodigy and 3yr warranty
                            ^^^^^BRAND NEW MODEM...IN WRAP^^^^^^^

Make an offer on all or part of items.I might except trade.If interested
about Caddy,call [phone] and ask for Glenn.I will be happy to neg.
******************************************************************************
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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 789
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/14/93  9:55a
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Is the Music Shop program on CD? If not I'm interested.
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From: MONTY TAN                              Number: 790
  To: NED ALLISON                              Date: 06/13/93  1:22a
Subj: MSCDEX PROBLEM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Did you place the SETVER.EXE in the config.sys? MSCDEX requires this.

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From: JEREMY GUTSCHE                         Number: 791
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  2:33p
Subj: 3D Cad programs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can anyone recomend a very high quality cad program which would create
3D (and possibly 2D) rotatable images in 256 colour???
                Thank You
                Jeremy Gutsche
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From: BOB HAY                                Number: 792
  To: WARREN DANIO                             Date: 06/13/93  8:34p
Subj: Catalog Please                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Warren!

Saturday June 12 1993 01:56, Warren Danio wrote to Paul Janel:

 WD>         Are you offering to contribute to a sysops Hard Drive and
 WD>         telephone bill? I doubt it. or are you just to cheap to pay
 WD>         for a stamp or a phone call     Warren

I just wish they would all use a common Subject in the message header so us
leaf nodes could delete the whole thread once a day.

Bob

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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 793
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/12/93 11:19a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Patrick:

In a msg of <Wednesday June 09 1993>, Patrick Rosenheim writes to Tyler A.
Wunder:

 PR> These descriptions were taken from a catalog, and are complete (except
for
 PR> my parenthetical remark)....

     Thanks for the descriptions.  Hmmm...will have to think about them.




Tyler A. Wunder

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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 794
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/12/93  8:58a
Subj: CD WinBox                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Damar Enterprises announces the introduction of a NEW
Windows-based Shareware CD-ROM:

               *#############*    Available from better
               #  CD WinBox  #    dealers in this echo!
               *#############*

This is a GREAT addition to folks that already own our first
release, the CD PowerBox.  If you're into Windows - the
WinBox is for you.  Here are the disk's stats:

*    Approximately 6,000 files.
*    Over 30% are TRULY dated 1993!
*    Over 620 MegaBytes of files, icons, articles, and
     bitmaps.
*    40 Files areas each with a multi-line file description
     in the FILES.BBS format.
*    SFFILES.BBS and MASTER.DIR supported as well!
*    Use the true Windows-based Graphical User Interface for
     quick file location and installation!
*    Huge amounts of applications (this disk is not just a
     collection of icons and graphics!)

#    AREA NAME:                    #    AREA NAME:
------------------------------     ----------------------------
1    New & Journals                21   Networking
2    Windows NT                    22   Windows for Workgroups
3    Financial & Investment        23   Communications A-M
4    Printer Utils/Drivers         24   Communications N-Z
5    Games A-M                     25   Icons Galore A-G
6    Games N-Z                     26   Icons Galore H-P
7    Personal Info. Managers       27   Icons Galore Q-Z
8    Multimedia - Video            28   Icon Apps/Utils
9    Multimedia - Sound A-M        29   Screen Savers
10   Multimedia - Sound N-Z        30   Fonts - ATM Type A-M
11   Developers Files              31   Fonts - ATM Type N-Z
12   Visual Basic A-M              32   Fonts - TrueType A-M
13   Visual Basic N-Z              33   Fonts - TrueType N-Z
14   Word for Windows              34   Fonts - Apps/Utils
15   Other Word Processors         35   Educational
16   Graphics - Apps/Utils         36   Spreadsheet Related
17   Graphics - BMP/RLE A-M        37   Database
18   Graphics - BMP/RLE N-Z        38   Apps A-J
19   Graphics - PCX A-M            39   Apps K-S
20   Graphics - PCX N-Z            40   Apps T-Z

       Call your favorite dealer for competitive prices!


 * OLX 2.1 TD * The NEGOTIATOR has SPOKEN! [phone] 1:161/205
- JetMail v1.12 - Unregistered QWK Mail Door for Spitfire
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From: VACLAV VYVODA                          Number: 795
  To: ADRIAN PENDELL                           Date: 06/13/93  9:50a
Subj: 7th Guest...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On Jun 10 17:22, Adrian Pendell of 1:232/1 wrote:

 > buy it when I        noticed the box said it requires an SVGA
 > monitor w/ 1 meg RAM        -is this true? If so, it seems a
 > real dissapointment for those        of us who don't have
 > SVGA cards ( I, personally, can't see a        damn bit of
 > difference between the two..), and this would, along

Its simple.
  VGA w/ 256k goes up to 320x200x256 or 640x480x16
  SVGA w/ 512k goes up to 640x480x256 or 800x600x16
  SVGA w/ 1024k goes up to 1024x768x256 or 1280x1024x16

Any questions?  <g>

Vas

PS..  I'm sorry that this was off the topic, but here's something right on
topic..

Does anybody have a Toshiba XM-3201B for sale cheap?
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 796
  To: LEE HICKERSLY                            Date: 06/12/93  6:53p
Subj: .TXT files                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> Is there a cd that specializes in Adult .TXT files? Does anyone have a
>> large amount of them built up from other cd's? I would like to get like
>> one QIC-40 tape of .TXT files... I will sned the tape, or pay for yours
>> (prefer that)..

    I have about 40+ MEG of freeware adult text files, but the best I can
do is put them on a 3m DC2120 in QIC-80 format.  The cost of reproducing
the tape, the tape, and shipping is $30.00.  The tapes cost me about $25
so I really can't ship one out for less than that.
    If you are interested, I would be more than happy to back them up
and send them out, since I have the files all collected in one place
right now, anyway.

    P.S. If you like, I also have a collection of adult games that I will
slap on the tape for $5.00 more (just to pay for the time it will take me
to collect 'em and back 'em up).  Your option.


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 797
  To: BRIAN WHEATLEY                           Date: 06/12/93  7:03p
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Brian Wheatley wrote to Lee Hickersly:

>> You have a backup, full of Adult .TXT files? How many megs did you say
>> 40? >> How much would you sell it for? Thanks...

    He was asking if anyone had one.  I do, and as I wrote to him, I have
about 40+ MEG of txt files that I will put on a 3m DC2120 tape in QIC-80
format and ship anywhere in the US for $30.00 (the tapes cost me 25.00)
    I also offered the option for $35.00 of adding all of the games that
I have collected up.  The extra $5 being to cover my time to collect all
of the files together and back them up.


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From: JIM REED                               Number: 798
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 06/12/93  9:48p
Subj: MSCDEX PROBLEM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

NA>CS->This is a bit out of the Sales area but....Call it customer service..

NA>CS->I have an external Sony CD-ROM that was working fine with DOS6 on a
386D
NA>  ->Then I upgraded to a AMI (motherboard) 486DX2-66 Just normal DOS v6
usin
NA>  ->MSCDEX v2.20 (in dos v6 package) and get "Incorrect DOS version).
Tried
NA>  ->with 3.1 and 4.1 and 5.0 (not all at the same time) with no luck. Any
NA>  ->Suggestions. Thanks

NA>Call MicroSoft for an upgrade to at least v 2.21 on the MSCDEX. -=- Ned

Hi Clint;
        Try this instead.  Go to the c prompt and enter "help setver"
        then follow the instructions.  Easy.
                                /JIM/

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From: STERLING PRICE                         Number: 799
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/13/93 10:25p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-sale or trade...           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Shane Snyder to ALL <=-

 SS> I have STORM II adult CD-ROM for sale or trade, I would prefer to
 SS> trade...        Leave message here if interested...


I have Physical Therapy to trade.  If you are interested, reply via this echo
or call 501-443-4626 if you need voice verification.



... Open mouth, insert foot, echo internationally.
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From: RANDY SMITH                            Number: 800
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/12/93  8:21p
Subj: Cd-rom catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RS>Randy Smith
RS>8509 Mid County Industrial Dr
RS>St. Louis, MO 63114-6011

RS>Thanks

Randy C Smith
===
 * DeLuxe 1.25 #1138 * A wok is what you thwow at a wabbit!!!

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From: LYNN CLARK                             Number: 801
  To: VETS                                     Date: 06/12/93 11:58p
Subj: Va benefit prog                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

for rehab and skills training call your local VA-VR office in St Pete up to
$25,000 year available....also local money for remodeling for
accessibility....HEAD INJURY REHAB AVAILABLE IN NORTH COUNTY OF PINELLAS ALSO
IN THE GENERAL TAMPA BAY AREA....


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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 802
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/13/93  4:11p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>JP>Hey Mike, at one time a few weeks ago I offered you a brand new 420 meg
MS>JP>Fujitsu HD for a bunch of your ADULT CDROM's.....you never did say

MS>Sorry, but not all of my messages to my local board have been going out.
MS>Looks like a good deal, but I've already got 750 megs installed, and I'm
MS>only using about 300 of that!  No can use at this point.

Thanks!, if you ever need the space call me I'll swap in a heart beat.

James
813-345-7297
 ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ On a clear disk you can seek forever


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From: BOB SPILLERS                           Number: 803
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 06/13/93  7:02p
Subj: Need To Know                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RD>drive with no more than 500ms seek time, preferably less than 400.
Ideally you should get a muulti media "kit" with a Soundblaster pro.
That way you have no compatability problems and the Soundblaster is a
lot easier to set up than a RD>Pro Audio Spectrum 16 or Sound Galaxy Pro
16. They make "kits"  that come wi RD>a Soundblaster Pro and a Sony
Cd-Rom drive.


RD>--- msged 1.99S ZTC
RD> * Origin: Cowboy Country Point Netters  (1:303/5.104)


Sure appreciate the detailed information. You answered questions that I
didn't even know to ask. your info gives me a much better perception of
CD ROM than I had.

                          ITKU
                                 Rws

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From: THE SHADOWSPAWN                        Number: 804
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  7:52p
Subj: CD-ROM Changer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        I, too, am seeking information on CD-ROM changers.  I would like
to purchase one for use with my BBS, but have been unable to find a
dealer here in Tampa who sells them.  If anyone can provide any
information on where I might find a drive, prices, etc, I would greatly
appreciate it.
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 805
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 06/09/93  8:23a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JS>JL> I think the next biggest seller will be Digital Dreams.  It is all
  >JL> original scans that are 800x600 or better with no BBS ads.  It has a
  >JL> very nice user interface also.

JS>You sure are "plugging" this cd alot. Wouldn't be associated with it in
anyw
  >now would you...? :) Let me know whats so special about this one....

No, I am not associated with it at all.  I have talked with a guy who
worked on it.  He made sure it was very easy for sysops to set up.  I
have previewed the disc on his board, but I am still waiting for it to
hit the streets.  It should be out any day now.

It has catalog gifs that allows the end user to view AND select one of
36 miniature size gifs.  When you select one, it pulls up the full size
gif.  I think that is a great user interface.  I also like the idea of
not seeing repeats of other discs on every disc I buy.  The lack of
advertisements is also a plus.  Just my opinion. :)

                                                        Jim...

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 806
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/13/93  4:42p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den In               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <06-12-93 08:16> Darin Celino wrote:

DC>> Regarding Shareware CD-Roms and the problems to be faced with
DC>> publishing such a disk in the future:  What is it that shareware
DC>> authors are sueing over.  It would seem to me that they have more to
DC>> gain than to lose if their product is distributed.

They dislike the idea that we sell our ROMS for profits (or better said, we
distribute their shareware for a profit from which they get nothing).

There is some 46 authors that will not release their software for publication
on CD-ROM--

I would much rather a signed release--Too many lawsuits flying around these
days--

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: TODD MCNOLDY                           Number: 807
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93 12:00a
Subj: Looking for CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm running a BBS with two CD-ROM drives, and am looking for two current,
up-to-date CD's with a substantial number of different files between them
(meaning only a 10 to 20% similarity).  I would very much like to get the
latest Night Owls, as I have an older version and have been very pleased with
it.  What is a good general shareware CD to go along with Night Owls?  Thanks
for any help in this matter.

-- Todd

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From: MATTHEW SMITH                          Number: 808
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  6:05p
Subj: cdrom                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anybody have a CD-ROM of just .mod, .669, and s3m files?  Maybe some pg
.flis and gifs too..... anybody know what the Mega A/V is composed of?  (50%
sound, maybe?)

What is all this stuff I've been hearing about Seventh Guest?  How good is
it?  Is it all digital?  what are the machine requirements?

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 809
  To: RED KENNEDY                              Date: 06/14/93 12:08a
Subj: cd WinBox                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RK>Was just wondering if you have started shipping cd winbox yet...Hope you
have
RK>received my moneyorder by now.......

Red,

Yes, I got your order OK.  Thanks very much.  We should have the Winboxes
in this week.  Yours will be among the first to ship out.

Later,
.\\ike
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 ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ If it's British, it leaks.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 810
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93 12:08a
Subj: OTHERWARE I IN STOCK: $25               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 ****************************** OTHERWARE 1 ********************************
                 New Shareware CD for Macintosh and Amiga!

 PRICE REDUCTION!!!               $25.00                  PRICE REDUCTION!!!

 We are  pleased to announce  special  pricing  for OtherWare 1. This CD-ROM
 contains more than 600 megabytes of  current Macintosh  and Amiga shareware
 and public domain software.

 OtherWare 1 is primarily intended for DOS BBS operators who wish to provide
 access to Macintosh and Amiga software to their users,  but is also a great
 source of  late shareware  for end-users.  MegaSearch for DOS  and MegaDOOR
 (BBS)  have been provided for IBM users.  All filenames have been converted
 to DOS format  (ISO 9660)  with 8 letter filenames and 3 letter extensions,
 and program listings are available as a FILES.BBS text file for BBS sysops.

                                  $25.00

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Find a better advertised price?  Call us LAST, and we'll save you some $$$
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 811
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93 12:08a
Subj: SEEDY 6-PAKS IN STOCK!!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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                     SEEDY ROM 6-PAK: $149 + $4 S/H.
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These famous adult CD sets are now available again. For a time they were hard
    to find, but Starvector has several sets in stock ready for immediate
 delivery at only $149 + $4 shipping. That's only $24.83 per CD, and each is
    packed with top-quality GIF pix with GIF's and FLI/GL animation on #6.

      >>> NO DUPLICATION BETWEEN CD'S!   OVER 29,000 GIF's IN ALL! <<<

                           >>> BBS-READY <<<

  Find a better advertised price?  Call us and we'll BEAT it!  No hassles.

     Note: Seedy #7 (Seventh Heaven) available separately for only $32,
     or $22 if purchased with 6-Pak.

                          (Must state age 21+)

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MAX HILL                               Number: 812
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  9:04p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM BIG SKY                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       BIG SKY CD-ROM     <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
          The downloader's ROM      OVER 7000 + files
.................................................................
            ORDER LINE  Voice 1-406-586-8344       > 8:00 A.M.
              ORDER LINE  FAX   [phone]     > 7:00 P.M.
               * We Pay shipping 2nd day UPS       > MST
                  * MasterCard, VISA, COD company check

PCBoard users will be pleasantly surprised to find that we have
included special tools that will allow them to install BigSky
ROM in just a few minutes -- not hours.
The PCBoard IDX file was created before the Files.BBS and
Descript.ion files were laid down on the ROM.
This software was designed and developed by Martin Productions.
Over 7,000 files using PKWARE, Inc.'s PKZIP (R) 2.04g DeflatX
MAXIMUM compression are on this ROM, including .GIF, .WAV, .ICO,
and .BMP's.  Where there were hundreds of small icon files, we
combined them into downloadable 20K files, so there is no inflated
file count on this ROM (just so you'll buy the product).
All files are True Date Stamped, based on largest file in the
archive; there's no false advertising here.  If you're a SysOp,
we know you care about your users and don't want them thinking
that a file just came out when, in fact, it is a year old.  We
do have older files on our ROM, but if -- and only if -- we
feel it is something useful or interesting.
NO MISSING FILES OR WASTED TIME!
All archive files were scanned with McAfee Associates 5/5/93
SCAN 9.15 V104, which looks for 2,049 different viruses and their
variants.
All archives have a FILE_ID.DIZ to identify them.  If one wasn't
present, we added it.
Almost no data files are on this ROM.  We expect you to find
other sources for collections of data-type ROM's, and you can look
forward to BigSky #2's being almost all unique digitized images
and files.
We've listened to you on FidoNet; we monitor the Echos:  CD-ROM,
CD-ROM sales, VIRUS info, and DIRTY_DOZEN.  We've taken the time
to find and remove any HACK Report Files, illegal commercial
programs, programs that won't run right out of the ZIP file, and
anything else we've heard about.  Special thanks to the creators
of and contributors to the Hack Report.
Also, since there are inevitably problems with file descriptions,
every BigSky ROM purchaser who sends in the registration card
will be given access to PC-Montana's Special File Description
Update Area -- FREE -- to download all new updates as they become
available.
Files listed in DIR files but missing from Disk -- NONE!
Duplicate files found in Disk subdirectories -- NONE!
Duplicate file names across the whole ROM -- NONE!
Files found on Disk but missing from DIR files -- NONE!
Duplicate files found in DIR files -- NONE!
Files.BBS and Directory Tree have been set up for MOST BBS's.
Each subdirectory will have a FILES.BBS detailed description
list for operators of WildCat BBS's to load the file descriptions
quickly from CD-ROM to their hard disk database.
Cost $48.00  We think you'll be happy with this ROM purchase.  We
have checked the stats to see what users want.  This is TRULY the
Downloader's ROM.


 * OLX 2.2 * Clinton orders Typewriters to update Whitehouse! sheesh!
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From: WARREN DANIO                           Number: 813
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/12/93 10:43p
Subj: GEEZ                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ > You gave your opinion, now I given mine. End of thread from
BJ > this end.
                End of thread.      Warren

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From: ROGER COLLINS                          Number: 814
  To: ADRIAN PENDELL                           Date: 06/13/93 10:46p
Subj: 7th Guest...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->         I have really been wanting to buy this game, and, infact,
->         actually had taken it up to the register to buy it when I
->         noticed the box said it requires an SVGA monitor w/ 1 meg RAM
->         -is this true? If so, it seems a real dissapointment for thos
->         of us who don't have SVGA cards ( I, personally, can't see a
->         damn bit of difference between the two..), and this would, al
->         w/ LInks 386, be only the second game i've ever seen that had
->         such a requirement...Thanks ahead of time...

Yep, I wouldn't buy it unless you had a non-accelerated 1MB video card.
I have a 1MB Diamond Stealth VRAM (S3 for windows performance) and the
game ran very poorly on my machine (a 486/50)


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 815
  To: ADAM GILBERT                             Date: 06/14/93  9:27a
Subj: Re: CdRom Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AG> Are you considering trades on either drive? I will give you a 42mb
AG> IDE hard drive and a 20mb MFM hard drive for the second drive if you

Sorry, but I'm only using SCSI devices.  Thanks anyway.  I'll still have a
few drives over the next few weeks if you change your mind.


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From: BEN NATION                             Number: 816
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  1:21p
Subj: nix pix hot pix 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Nix Pix Hot Pix 1, being sold for $75 (new). Limited number of disks.
Original Hot Pix 1.
call Voice 904-779-7994 or BBS at 904-777-0778.


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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 817
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/13/93  1:28p
Subj: Digital Dreams                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please snd me a copy of this at my CCI discount price (whatever that means
<grin>) and also send me 4 caddies. Thanks buddy, BTW I got the two Texel
3120's you sent and have one of them on line now, need a SCSI cable with a
couple more connectors on it before I get the other on-line. Thanks again!

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From: DEAN SCOTT                             Number: 818
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/13/93  1:40a
Subj: Re: Used CD's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sorry Lee, I was thinking of PC Pix and Nix Pix. Got confuzed.

Dean Scott


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From: DON RIEB                               Number: 819
  To: ROBERT DU GAUE                           Date: 06/13/93  3:32a
Subj: CDROM changer software                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Is that software you were talking about available for Public Domain or
Shareware?  The CDROM file transfer software.  I have a Pioneer DRM-600 on a
BBS and need somthing that will put files in to a Qeuiee becouse I have 4
nodes and 6 disc's run from PonyRom and it would be nice to only alow one
file
to be copied at a time instead of it doing part of a file then part of the
next file and so on, takes to long switching disc's.

** Don **

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From: DON RIEB                               Number: 820
  To: KENNETH WATTS                            Date: 06/13/93  3:39a
Subj: Re: CHEAP CDROM DRIVE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KW> I am looking for a cheap new or used cdrom drive for my 286 12 mhz
machine.
KW> Can anyone help me out?

I have a internal CDROM drive for $149.  Comes with controller card.

Don at 708-657-1160

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 821
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 06/13/93 11:58a
Subj: Cd's...                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I'll keep an eye out for your next listing, since I haven't seen one
-> lately.  I hope it fits within the columns so I can read it.  Thanks
-> for your efforts.

Peter, I'll be posting an ad tomorrow. Please let me know if you CAN read
it. Thanks for YOUR efforts!

Regards,

Pat

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 822
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  1:28a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - Phone: [phone]
Mastercard & Visa accepted (no surcharge). Posted on 06/14/93, @ 01:19.
-------------------------------------------------------------- CD's (UPS
ground shipping is $5.00)
-------------------------------------------------------------- CD-ROM caddies
                                            $5 American Business Phone Book
                           $23 Anim. Fant. 1 or 2
           $30 The Animals                                               $28
Battle Chess                                              $22 Bible library
                                          $26 Bibles & Religion
                          $13 Britannica Select
          $39 Busty Babes                                               $30
Carmen San Diego                                          $27 CD Game Pack II
                                          $26 Chessmaster 3000
                          $27 Clipart Goliath
          $13 Colossal Cookbook                                         $13
Complete Bookshop                                         $13 Compton
Interactive Encyclopedia                         $103 Dictionaries &
Languages                                  $13 Ecstasy
                           $30 Erotic Encounters
           $30 Gigabyte Gold                                             $31
Groliers STW Encyclopedia (windows, or 5.0 M/M)           $53 Hot Pix (2, 3,
or 4)                                      $36 Hot Stuff 1
                           $18 Hot Stuff 2
           $25 Inspector Gadget                                          $45
KGB-CIA Factbook                                          $31 King's Quest 5
                                          $23 Kodak Photo CD
                          $33 Loom
          $30 Lovely Ladies II                                          $31
Mayo Clinic                                               $97 Microsoft Works
                                          $99 Microsoft Bookshelf
                          $65 Mixed Up Mother Goose
          $23 Moving Fantasies                                          $31
MPC Wizard                                                $14 National
Geographic Mammals                               $26 National Parks
                                 $31 Night Owl (7 or 8)
                 $26 OS/2 Hobbes
 $16 Our Solar System                                          $13 PC Sig 11
                                               $26 PC Sig Games
                               $16 PC Pix (1, 2, or 3)
               $31 Physical Therapy
$16 Pro Phone 1992                                            $33 Pro Phone
1993                                           $107 Publishit 2.0 (DOS)
                                $28 Rimfire Pacific
                $34 Seventh Heaven
$31 Seventh Guest                                             $67 Sherlock
Cons 1                                           $28 Smutware
                                 $26 So Much Stareware
                 $27 Soundworks
 $19 Storm (I, II, or III)                                     $31 Street
Atlas USA                                          $97 Shareware Extravaganza
                                   $39 Shareware Studio
                   $28 Technotools
   $13 Too Many Typefonts                                        $13 US Atlas
w/ Automap                                       $26 VGA Spectrum 1
                                 $13 Willy Beamish
                 $54 Willy Beamish (OEM)
 $22 Windows 1993                                              $22 Wing
Commander 2/Ult. Underground                         $60 Wing Commander 2/OPS
                                     $60 Women In Motion
                     $31 x11R5/GNU
     $22 --------------------------------------------------------------
Prices & specifications subject to change without notice. Best time to reach
me: 7-10 AM & 9-12 PM Mon. - Fri., all day Sat. & Sun. (EASTERN)


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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 823
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  1:28a
Subj: Cd-rom drives & bundles                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - Phone: [phone]
Mastercard & Visa accepted (no surcharge). Posted on 06/14/93, @ 01:15.
-------------------------------------------------------------- CD-Rom drives
                                         Price
-------------------------------------------------------------- Texel 265ms
SCSI internal                                $374 Texel 265ms SCSI external
                             $457 Texel internal bundle
             $605 Texel external bundle
$697 Texel internal Multimedia bundle                         $923 Texel
external Multimedia bundle                       $1,036 Chinon external
                                   $459 Chinon internal
                   $338 Magnavox CDD-461RS
   $395 Mitsumi internal CD-ROM                                  $193 Mitsumi
external CD-ROM                                  $285 Magnavox CM-205XRS,
internal                             $361 NEC MultiSpin 38 portable
                     $417 NEC MultiSpin 84 internal
     $534 NEC MultiSpin 74 external                                $595 Tandy
CDR-1000 CD-ROM w/ card                            $150 Toshiba XM3401 200ms
internal                            $472 Toshiba XM3401E 200ms external
                    $577
-------------------------------------------------------------- Prices &
specifications subject to change without notice. Best time to reach me: 7-10
AM & 9-12 PM Mon. - Fri., all day Sat. & Sun. (EASTERN)

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From: JIM HUSBAND                            Number: 824
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  6:06p
Subj: FOR TRADE - MAGAZINE RACK               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    I'd like to trade Magazine Rack (1991) for another CD-ROM. I no
longer have any interest in MR, so I will consider almost any CD.
I'll also be glad to sell it, but since I'm not a dealer, payment
would need to be by check/MO.

    Leave mail here if you're interested.

                                                            Jim

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From: JIM HUSBAND                            Number: 825
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  6:11p
Subj: MITSUMI QUESTIONS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    I have a Mitsumi LU005S, and hope someone can help with several
questions.

    1) Does anyone know if the OS2 2.1 distributed on CD-ROM will
install using the Mitsumi. I've seen several (beta) OS2 drivers,
but am unsure about 2.1 and installation requirements.

    2) What is the latest Mitsumi driver (dates &/or version)?

    3) Where can I get the latest drivers for the drive. While I
may have the latest now, I doubt they will always be the most
current. I received no BBS number, or any contact number for that
matter, with the package.

    4) I added a Sound Galaxy NX board, that will also serve as a
controller for the CD. However, I have only been able to get the
software polling driver (supplied with CD, not Sound board) to work
with it. The Sound Galaxy has two CD drivers. The one indicated for
a Mitsumi drive displays "Panasonic" when it loads, and then fails.
I then tried the other driver (thinking that the doc was simply
wrong), and got no further.

    Any help will be appreciated.

                                                            Jim

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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 826
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 06/13/93  9:16p
Subj: Gif/anim disks ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

You should reply to some "Free CD catalogs", they often have great info,
sometimes even good prices.
        Just look around before you buy.


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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 827
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/10/93 10:07a
Subj: CLIPART CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can anyone recommend some GOOD clipart cd's? I am looking for 300 dpi or
better in pcx format to use in DTP. I have seen several on this echo but
I am fearful of paying for another CLIPART GOLIATH which had about 50%
in 75 DPI which i can't use.  Also how much duplication is there on the
new cd's that are out. If i buy 6 cd's will I just be duplicating what I
already have? Please send me any information you might have and a price
list. Good descriptions encourage me to buy whereas no descriptions
leave me with a lot of questions.

MIKE PETRO
2803 EMERSON RD
GREENSBORO  NC  27405
 ■ QMPro 1.01 22-2345 ■ MSI HQ! BBS ■ 805-395-0650 Home of Off-Line Xpress!


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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 828
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/12/93  9:27a
Subj: Re: NEW CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

===========================================================================
Packet: ANSWER
Date: 06-10-93 (00:11)             Number: 464
From: LEE NOGA                     Refer#: NONE
  To: MIKE PETRO                    Recvd: YES
Subj: Re: NEW CD                     Conf: (11) CDROM_Sale


LN>As one of the author's let me answer this one--*YOU BET*, they are all
  >300-600DPI, no junk, no dupes--11,000+, and the book which


MP>LN>> THANKS, I AM TRYING TO GET FULLBLOWN INTO DTP AND I NEED
ALL THE HELP I CAN GET. HAVE SEEN THE THE NEW "PAGE PLUS V.2" YET? THE
REVIEWS ARE ALL GOOD ON IT. IS IT REALLY WORTH TRASHING PUBLISHER AND
PAGEMAKER OVER THIS. THE LOW PRICE MAKES ME SKEPTICAL!
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From: BEN BARTON                             Number: 829
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  1:26p
Subj: WANTED PHILLIPS CM-100                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a Phillips CM-100 external CDROM drive that has room for an
additional drive in the case.  I'd like to add a second unit.  If anyone
has one of these ancient things, I would appreciate your getting in touch.

Thanks,
Ben


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From: GABE HOWARD                            Number: 830
  To: THE SISTER                               Date: 06/14/93  2:38p
Subj: Re: CDROM RETAILER                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Gabe-
->         Could you please send me a copy of you Adult Titles, Cd- Rom.
-> an Adult BBS and I would like to get a new Adult Cd Disk to use onlin
-> currently use Storm 3.
->                         Joannine Gesualdo
->                                 Snail Mail  P.O. Box 21041
->                                 Des Moines, Iowa, 503

Allright..   It would be in your best interest to call my BBS at
614-436-0180 ...

Or me personally at 614-436-9223 ..

Cornerstone Computer Solutions


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From: GABE HOWARD                            Number: 831
  To: FRANK KNAPP                              Date: 06/14/93  2:40p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Please send catalog (all titles)
-> to:
-> Frank Knapp
-> PO Box 234
-> Souderton, PA 18964
->
-> Thanks

Your best bet would be to call my Bulletin Board at 614-436-0180 ...

24hours/7 Days a week..

Gabe Howard / Cornerstone Computer Solutions


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From: GABE HOWARD                            Number: 832
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 06/14/93  2:43p
Subj: CDROM RETAILER                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> MB>GH+If you would like a catalog of over 400 CDROM titles.....
->
-> MB>        Hello Gabe,
->
-> MB>        Please send one to me:
-> MB>                Michael Booth
-> MB>                31 Bethesda Ct.
-> MB>                Sacramento, CA 95838
->
-> MB>Michael
->
->
-> MB>--- TMail v1.31.5
-> MB> * Origin: 24th Street Exchange - A BBS Since 1983 * (916) 451-717
-> Hello Gabe,
->         Please send me a catalog at:
->         Sam's Software
->         Sam Figueroa
->         Rt 2 Box 2453-A
->         Manchester, Tn 37355
->                                    Thanks?!

Your best bet would be to call my Bulletin Board Service at
614-436-0180.

I say this because CDROM prices changes so frequently..  I want to give
you an accurate price..

Cornerstone Computer Solutions...
Gabe Howard


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 833
  To: ALL DEALERS                              Date: 06/13/93 10:24a
Subj: INFO WANTED!!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In the classified section of the latest PC Magazine (6/29/93 edition) on
page 406, there's an ad from an outfit called Romulus Entertainment.
Among the adult-oriented CDs they're offering is a new product called
"The Interactive Adult Movie Almanac". Their 800 number sales line
couldn't tell me squat about the disk and, not being a dealer, I didn't
call their "dealer inquiry" line (310-453-5068). The sales line did give
me the number for Laser Concepts which they said could help me
(818-884-9437). All I've been able to get so far at that number is a
phone mail system which appears to work about as well as Trantor's :( .

The suggested retail price for the "almanac" is $129.95 (in their
dreams!) but, as any of you who know me by now will attest, there's no
way I'm plunking down even half of that amount without more data.  I'm
very interested in having such a disk *IF* it's any good as it would let
me clear off about 30 megs of my hard drive that has similar data in it.

If it is any good (e.g. not an empty CD, has a usable search engine,
etc. etc. etc.), the first dealer to find out and make a reasonable
price offering will get the business.  Do your homework and call me at
713-488-0065 (before 10 p.m. CDT, p-l-e-a-s-e).  Ciao!
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From: CHRIS BARRETT                          Number: 834
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 06/14/93 11:03a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 > I agree.  I just got it too, after seeing someone elses VGASectrum I.
 > It is parked on a shelf, back in it's original box.  Took about 5
 > minutes to decide it wasn't worth putting on the BBS, though it would
 > make a great basisi for a system demo in a store or something.  There
 > are a lot of nice animations.  That just sin't what I bought it for!

    I managed to luck out and had a friend who bought it from me for a little
more then I paid for it...
    What really pissed me off was how it was sold! Why call it VGA Spectrum
II when there is nothing to do with VGA on it?!? Now, if it had of been
called Sound Spectrum, that would have been a heck of a better name!
    Well, cya later.

                                        Chris

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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 835
  To: TONY D. BERRY                            Date: 06/14/93 11:57a
Subj: Software                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TB> Your name is the same as my brothers! I have been in the BBS
TB> scene for 12 years, calling to and fro, from state to state,
TB> even overseas, and this is the first I have seen that!

TB> Anyway, do you have some CD software for sale? If so, I am
TB> interested. Please
TB> respond with titles and asking price.

TB> Tony D. Berry

TB> --- GEcho 1.00/beta+
TB>  * Origin: Genesis * 4.5 Gig * HST 16.8 * 501-267-9600
TB> (1:391/1180)
        That is interesting. Anyway no I don't sell stuff, I'm only 14.
Later...
                                        Josh
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From: KENNETH WATTS                          Number: 836
  To: DON RIEB                                 Date: 06/14/93 10:13p
Subj: Re: CHEAP CDROM DRIVE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Don:
    How about a few specs on that drive.  Brand name,seek time,transfer
rate.  Is it mpc compliant? Not necesary but would be nice.  Just let
me know.
                                        Ken

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From: JIM CUMMINGS                           Number: 837
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  9:41p
Subj: U.S. Govt CD-ROMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Has anyone seen the CD-ROM put out by the U.S. Superintendent
of Documents that has the "U.S. Code, containing the general
and permanent laws of the U.S., in force on January 2, 1991"?
It costs $ 30.00 and I wondered if it was interesting or falls
into the curiosity category.
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 838
  To: DAN WAGNER                               Date: 06/12/93  9:59p
Subj: 4 EXTERNAL CD DRIVES $600               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


DW> Im interested in your 4 Hitachi drives. Do you have  some  specs
 DW> on them? Also what would you  charge  for  shiping  overseas  to
 DW>  South  Africa.  What  types  of  payment  would  you    accept?

  These drives are not fast but they  work  great  on a  bbs.   The
  access time is over 500 ms but the transfer rate is 150  kbs.   I
  have shipped some of them to Australia, Germany and other  points
  outside the USA.  The best and less  expensive  way  that I  have
  found to ship is via US air mail.  That cost  of  shipping  for 4
  drives  with  power  supply  is  $130.   I  would  have  to  have
  prepayment in US currency.  Most foreign  customers  are  sending
  the money via a  bank  wire.   Let  me  know  if  you  need  that
  information.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 839
  To: DOUG M VANVLEET                          Date: 06/12/93 10:07p
Subj: Hitachi Card                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


DM>    I'm in the market for a reasonably priced contoller card  for
 DM> a Hitachi CDR-3500 internal drive.  If you have one that  you're
 DM> wanted to part with, please reply via this echo, netmail, or you
 DM> may call voice at 919-7865662. I'm located  in  North  Carolina.
 DM> Thanks!

  I have them new for $60 + $10 shipping/c.o.d.    If you  buy  one
  you will qualify for my latest and greatest shareware  cd  "Cream
  of   the   Crop"   for    1/2    price.      Call    205-824-2552

  I also have about 50  of  those  Hitachi  drives  like  your  are
  running.  You can add/daisy chain them  with  your  drive,  AND I
  have external cases with or without power supply.  The drives are
  $130 each. The external cases are $25 and the power supplies  are
  $25.   I also have special custom made cables that  will  connect
  to   the   outside   of   the   controller    card    for    $30.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 840
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 06/13/93 10:40a
Subj: CREAM OF THE CROP STATS                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 Cream of the Crop  shareware cd rom disc:

  Cream of the Crop was designed  with  the  idea  to  include  the
  highest quality selection of shareware programs available  today.
  There are no gif's, no music, not adult, and  very  few  programs
  that are for a specific bbs package.  This saved a great deal  of
  disc space that is used to include a wider variety of programs to
  satisfy the average pc user.  Sysops  who  have  only 1  or 2  cd
  drives find that this is the  BEST  concept  since  changing  out
  several disc  to  offer  their  users  such a  selection  is  not
  practical.

  The files are archived with ARJ and the archive comment  contains
  the description of the  program  inside  making  it  possible  to
  execute "ARJ L <filename>"  to find out what the program is about
  without having  to  extract  the  docs  or  look  it  up  in  the
  files.bbs. Since most great programs aren't  upgraded  every  few
  months about 1/3  of  the  files  are  1991.  There  are  several
  programs I have written to  assist  the  sysops  of  several  bbs
  programs  (Maximus,  Spitfire,  Remote  Access,  Quick  BBS   and
  PCBoard) to automatically and INSTANTLY set up Cream of the  Crop
  for their users. If you have ever had to set  up a  cd  rom  disc
  manually you will surely appreciate a utility that  will  set  up
  the disc in less than two minutes with NO errors!   Files.bbs  is
  available in every directory for Sysops of  bbs  programs  that I
  did not have time (or the necessary information about) to write a
  utility to automatically set up Cream of the Crop.  Here is  what
  one Sysop had to say in  the  international  CD  Rom  conference:

   To: ALL                                        Date:   6/10/1993
  From: STEPHEN GUPTON                             Time:   6:51  pm
  Subj: ALA Terry Blount

  I ordered Cream Of The Crop from Terry, and am quite  pleased  to
  find a disk that self installs vs having to  type  in  50  or  so
  directories. Is there a reason why nobody else has  figured  this
  out?

 <*=- Stephen -=*>

 * Origin: Club Mud, St.Augustine,Fl. [phone] (1:3620/16)
 ===============================================================

 Cream of the Crop has an easy to use front end program for end
 users to view and retrieve up to 50 files to copy at once to a
 target drive/directory.

 Cream of the Crop shareware cd file summary stats:

 BATCH       48 files    2905394 bytes
 BBS        178 files   25630043 bytes
 BUSINESS   385 files   71263855 bytes
 CAD         95 files   13302158 bytes
 COMM       241 files   31062408 bytes
 COMPRESS   126 files    9376418 bytes
 DATABASE   351 files   63803213 bytes
 DESQVIEW   105 files    5453673 bytes
 DIAG        73 files    5646969 bytes
 DISK       247 files   23191726 bytes
 EDITOR     276 files   31561687 bytes
 EDUCATE    394 files   50774270 bytes
 GAMES      340 files   55499389 bytes
 KEYBOARD    36 files    1714367 bytes
 LAN         66 files    6710370 bytes
 MONITOR    140 files   12079285 bytes
 OS2        184 files   21155705 bytes
 PRINTER    192 files   19393381 bytes
 PROGRAM    461 files   38257644 bytes
 RELIGION    51 files   13589714 bytes
 SOUND       78 files    7988655 bytes
 UTILITY    290 files   25093899 bytes
 VIRUS       63 files    4608588 bytes
 WINDOWS    650 files   79671285 bytes

 Total     5070 files  619734096 bytes

 Thanks for considering "Cream of the Crop"  shareware cd for your
 collection.  The price is $39.  If you are a Sysop listed in  the
 Fidonet Nodelist.dat you qualify for a copy  at  half  price.   I
 know how much Sysops spend to support their bbs and  offer  their
 callers such great services... usually for free.

 Terry Blount
 205-824-2552

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From: DON HANCOCK                            Number: 841
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 06/13/93  6:13a
Subj: Need To Know                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 06-10-93 Ryan Denke wrote to Bob Spillers...

 RD> connect to the Cd-Rom drive. I would look for a drive with
 RD> no more than 500ms seek time, preferably less than 400.
 RD> Ideally you should get a multimedia "kit" with a
 RD> Soundblaster pro. That way you have no compatability
 RD> problems and the Soundblaster is a lot easier to set up

Personal experience has been that the Soundblaster kits' drives have been the

SLOWEST on the market! They have been around 600ms access, tho' the sound
card
is good. Personally, okay sound and better CD is best. I got a SB Pro (paid
$90 for it NEW!) but I'm looking for something better than a Matsushita.

... OFFLINE 1.50  "Illiterate?  Write for FREE HELP!"

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From: DON HANCOCK                            Number: 842
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 06/13/93  6:13a
Subj: Mitsumi Audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 06-11-93 Tim Klan wrote to Brice Fleckenstein...

 TK>  Through the Headphone jack on front, or through soundblaster's audio
 TK> output, wiring Mitsumi's outputs into the Soundblaster's input...

What other possibilities are there?!

... OFFLINE 1.50  "If all fails read the manual, then call tech support and
complain...."

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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 843
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  4:59p
Subj: Pier II                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Who has the best price on Pier II?
I have seen it advertised for $45.00, Thats too much for a shareware rom. I
think more in the neiborhood of $35.00 would be more like it..
Any takers?
If anyone wishes to sell send net to tag line..

-Joe
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 844
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  5:02p
Subj: Old Mitsumi's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone have any of the old 680ms Mitsumi's they want to get rid of?
I need three of them..

-Joe
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From: JIM SHARRER                            Number: 845
  To: PAUL HAMMERSCHMIDT                       Date: 06/14/93  9:20a
Subj: Problem with a cd                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Hi all... I have a Sony CDRom, and all of a sudden, the darn thing
-> keeps spitting out the disks. It won't let the caddy and the disk
-> stay in the drive. When, on the rare occasion it does, when I try and
-> access the drive, it says that the drive won't respond. Any
-> suggestions? It's only happening with the Adult ROM that I use on my
-> bbs, not with other roms. Could it be that the disk is
-> defective/scratched and the laser won't read it????

Its dirty.
I had the same exact problem with mine...would only do it on certain
discs. Other's it would read fine.  Radio Shack sells a cleaning CD,
which is basically a disc with a tiny brush positioned over the laser,
which may do the job.  It worked on mine, but only for a month, and then
a more intense, invasive cleaning was required.  Hopefully, the cleaning
CD will do the trick, and at $10-15, its not a bad investment for anyone
with computer/audio CD players.

...Jim...


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 846
  To: ADRIAN PENDELL                           Date: 06/13/93 10:52p
Subj: 7th Guest...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <10 Jun 93  17:22:00>, Adrian Pendell (1:232/39) writes:
 >        I have really been wanting to buy this game, and, infact,
 >        actually had taken it up to the register to buy it when I
 >        noticed the box said it requires an SVGA monitor w/ 1 meg RAM
 >        -is this true? If so, it seems a real dissapointment for those
 >        of us who don't have SVGA cards ( I, personally, can't see a
 >        damn bit of difference between the two..), and this would, along
 >        w/ LInks 386, be only the second game i've ever seen that had
 >        such a requirement...Thanks ahead of time...
Sorry I can't answer your question, but it is funny how software makers will
call 640x480x256 Super VGA, when, in fact, it is not. They also think that
320x200 (MCGA) is VGA, when it is not. It is stupid for them to make a true
SVGA game because they would lose so many buyers like you. I don't know about
Seventh, but for Links386Pro, if it supports your video card, you should be
able to use it. I wonder if Seventh uses any specific drivers. There is a
difference between VGA and SVGA, believe me. You must not have ever seen true
SVGA. Granted, I really don't see that the extra resolution makes a whole lot
of difference....That is why it would also be stupid for them to make a tru
SVGA game.


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From: MARC FONTENOT                          Number: 847
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 06/15/93 12:32a
Subj: items for sale or trade...              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ben,
Do you still have the CD So Much Shareware 2?  If so please respond.  I have
been looking for a good starter CD for my bbs I will set up in Houston.
Thanks for the responce in advance!
                                            Marc Fontenot    sysop of:
                                            The Liberals Nightmare BBS
                                            (a future Rushnet Echo!)



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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 848
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  2:00a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% BRAND NEW MONSTER MEDIA 93 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
               420 + Megs Of ALL NEW Files For 1993
N          No-Dups - Virus Checked - Advanced File Viewer
O C         Files BBS Structure For Several BBS Systems
T O C            Will Be Updated 3 Times A Year !!!
H M L           File Dates From Jan 1 - April 20 1993
I E O        Everything From A - Z In Shareware Programs
N S S                 CD & Manual - Price - $35.
G   E         C.C.I Customers Call For Special Discount !!!

 ORDERS ONLY - 800-243-0517 Or For Additional Info Call 216-225-3263
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%


Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 849
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  2:00a
Subj: Specials                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Monster Disk - $35.  Shareware Extravag - $45.   CD PowerBox      - $20.
Pier 1       - $29.  SoundWaV           - $25.   Shareware Online - $29.
Asian Ladies - $35.  Adult Ref Library  - $35.   All ChestNuts    - $14.
Hobbs OS/2   - $25.  Windows 1993       - $25.   Night Owl 8      - $29.
Groilers Ency DOS / Windows Version - $50.00ec   Night Owl 7      - $19.
Gameware     - $30.  Canadian Shareware - $15.   IBM Sampler      - $ 7.
  Mitsumi Int (350ms) - $195. Nec36M - Complete Ext SCSI System $269.
        Pioneer DM600 - Bare Drive - $799.     DM604X - $1199.
 ORDERS ONLY - 800-243-0517 For Tech or Product Info Call - 216-225-3263
      (((((((((((   Call Us - You'll Be Glad You Did   ))))))))))))))


Boris Osadciw

... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 850
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  3:05a
Subj: CDROM PRICES PART 2                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        C.C.I'S HOT SUMMER PRICE LIST FOR JUNE - GAMES AND CHILDRENS
=============================================================================

7th Guest                      Adventure game; smooth full-motion video $55
Aesop's Fables                 54 Fables in Ebook MultiMedia Storybook  $35
Arthur's Teacher Trouble       Ages 5-9. Learn to read w/ anim & sound  $29
Barney Bear Goes to School     Ages 3-8. First day at school and games  $25
Barney Bear Goes to Space      Ages 3-8. Trip to Cape Canaveral & games $25
Battle Chess                   Chess with animation screens and manual  $20
Battle Chess Enhanced          Chess with great graphics & sound effect $29
Beyond the Wall of Stars       Journey to Tara MultiMedia adventure     $25
Carmen Deluxe: World           Enhanced graphics & sounds;much improved $29
Chess Master Deluxe            High skills and very challanging         $30
Dinosaur Adventure             Ages 5-105. New. SVGA color,sound,video  $49
Jungle Book: Mowgli's Bros     Kipling's story of boy raised by wolves  $35
Just Grandma and Me            Ages 3-8. Learn to read w/anim. & sound  $39
King's Quest V                 Stereo sound w/ over 50 different voices $25
Loom                           Full animation, special effects, & music $25
Macmillan Children's Dict      Kindergarten up, w/ pictures, sounds     $35
Mantis                         W/ speech pack and other CD enhancements $29
Mixed-up Mother Goose          Preschooler rhymes and stories in 5 lang $25
National Geographic Mammals    700 photos, 155 calls, 45 movies + text  $29
Peter and the Wolf             Excellent music, text, and illustrations $25
Peter Rabbit                   Beatrix Potter in 256-color VGA + sound  $35
Playing with Languages         French,German,Spanish,Japanese,or Engl   $35
Secret of Monkey Island        CD calypso/reggae soundtrack; Que bueno! $25
Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe    Includes the 4 Tour of Duty extensions   $25
Sherlock Holmes Detective #1   Video with real actors. 3 cases to solve $25
Sherlock Holmes Detective #3   Latest improved version; 3 more cases    $55
Space Adventure                Explore in SVGA 256 color w/sound,video  $49
Space Quest IV                 Roger Wilco at his best. Enhanced vers.  $25
Stellar 7                      Battle Zone with CD soundtrack & speech  $25
The Star Child                 By Oscar Wilde. Fun & imaginative. Ebook $35
The White Horse Child          By science fiction writer Greg Bear.     $39
Who Killed Sam Rupert          Interactive mystery w/video, sound, anim $29
Wing Commander & Ultima VI     With both manuals & Ultima VI paper map  $25


PAYMENT: We accept VISA or M/C (no surcharge), checks, & money orders.
S/H PER ORDER: US $4, Canada $6. We can ship anywhere; just ask for quote.

$$ VOICE [phone]  FAX: [phone]   ORDERS ONLY [phone] $$


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 851
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 06/14/93  9:42a
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <06-12-93 18:51> Ismail Arslangiray wrote:

IA>> If I remember correctly, you had a partner (Blaine I think). What
IA>> happened to him? Is it possible for you to provide his mailing
IA>> address for me? or a telephone number? Thanks

He reads this echo, and you are correct he is now off and running with his
own company to publish CD's--We have gone our separate ways, and he will know
how to get in contact with you if that is his choice.

Your Welcome,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 852
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 06/14/93  9:44a
Subj: Re: GEEZ                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <06-12-93 18:53> Ismail Arslangiray wrote:

IA>> Also they provide 800 numbers to only to reputable companies with
IA>> good payment history.

I do believe that is the same basis for getting any phone number, your
electric turned on, water service, and a check cashing card at the grocery
store. Off topic, and end of thread.

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 853
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/14/93  7:52p
Subj: Re: Cd Software Catalog                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

               *****  Quoting Brian Buck to Jim Lambert  *****

 BB> Hi Jim!  I would also like a copy of your latest CDROM software catalog
 BB> that lists ALL titles you sell.


Ditto!  Please send one my way as well, thanks!

                                 .\\ark Johnsen
                               10B Texas Street
                          Satellite Beach, Fl  32937

Thanks in advance, regards.


.\\ark



... WARNING!  Removal of this tagline prohibited by law!
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From: DOUG HASE                              Number: 854
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 06/13/93 10:54p
Subj: GIF/ANIM DISKS ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

So Much Screenware is a good selection of all types of .gifs.   I think there
are better CDs out there than Giffy Gold, which is X not R.  If X is what
you're looking for, Visual Fantasies is better and Lovely Ladies II is R
rated.

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 855
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  6:24p
Subj: Windows Users!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                      -= CD PowerBox =-

Slated to be the new industry standard, the PowerBox is over 650 megs
of shareware!  This disk actually has BOTH a Windows-based and a
DOS-based Graphical User Interface!  Forget the Nightowl series, the
PowerBox offers an affordable option.  Only $19.95!

                       -= CD WinBox =-

This is THE Windows disk available today!  Supporting Win3.x AND the
new Windows NT, the WinBox has over 630 Megs of pure Windows
shareware.  Use the Windows based installation program to quickly
start accessing this disk with its Windows Graphical Interface!  Now
only $29.95!

Please mention this FidoNet ad to get these special prices!

Dave Reed
CD-ROM International
[phone] (Orders)
[phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS/Fax)

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From: TORSTEN DROSTE                         Number: 856
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  4:40p
Subj: Mitsumi OS/2 driver                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Features of totronik's OS/2 driver 1.0 for Mitsumi LU005S:
----------------------------------------------------------

- Polling and interrupt driver version included
- Single-session Photo-CD support. Driver switches automatically between
  Photo-CD and CD-ROM mode
- Audio support with included PLAY-Program
- Multi-Adapter support for more than one LU005S drive
- Installation program for OS/2 2.0 und 2.1
- All LU005S drives supported including drives manufactured in March/April
  and a serial number starting with Dxxxxx


UPDATE:
-------
- Multimedia player support and multi-session Photo-CD support will be added.
  As multi-session is a really tricky feature there is no exact release date
  available for this version

Updates with new features will be available for a small update fee, bug fixes
free of charge.


LU002S:
-------
Although the driver is reported to work with the LU002S we didn't test it.


Soundcard w/ Mitsumi interface:
-------------------------------
The driver is reported to work also with the AZTECH SOUND GALAXY NX cards
with
Mitsumi interface but hasn't been tested with this soundcard.


If you want to order the driver see ORDER.TXT or send mail to:


                   totronik Torsten Droste
                   Hauptstaetterstr. 35
                   DW-7000 Stuttgart 1     (D-70173 Stuttgart after July,1st)
                   Germany

                   Phone: [phone]
                   Fax:   [phone]
                   CIS: 100064,1346
                   FIDO: 2:244/40.17

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From: TORSTEN DROSTE                         Number: 857
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  4:41p
Subj: Mitsumi OS/2 driver                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

              ORDER FORM FOR MITSUMI LU005S OS/2 DRIVER V1.0

Qty             Item
Price
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

           x    Mitsumi LU005S CD-ROM DRIVER OS/2     USD $23/ea
                [ ] 5.25" disk
                    Default will be 3.5" disk
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                                                      Sub-Total:
____________
SHIPPING        Germany              USD $4
                All other countries  USD $6
                                                      Shipping:
____________


                                                      TOTAL:
============

PAYMENT

- C.O.D. only available in Germany

- Credit Card: no surcharge

  [ ] AMEX      [ ] VISA      [ ] EURO/MASTERCARD

    Card holder:        ______________________________________

    Card number         ______________________________________

    Expiring date:      ______________________________________

    Signature:          ______________________________________


- Personel check: add USD $15 for bank fee

  Draw check to:        totronik Torsten Droste
                        Hauptstaetterstr. 35
                        DW-7000 Stuttgart 1

                        (D-70173 Stuttgart       after July,1st.)

Shipping adress:

    Name:               ____________________________________

    Street:             ____________________________________

    City:               ____________________________________  Zip:  ________

    Country:            ____________________________________

    Phone:              _____________________  Fax: ________________________

Mail order to:
                        totronik Torsten Droste
                        Hauptstaetterstr. 35
                        DW-7000 Stuttgart 1

                        (D-70173 Stuttgart       after July,1st.)
                        Phone: [phone]
                        Fax:   [phone]

Send FIDO Crashmail to 2:244/40.17        or          CIS EMail to
100064,1346

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From: DENNIS STERNER                         Number: 858
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  6:57a
Subj: SONY PARTS                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


Can anybody give me a price on a controller card for an external
Sony CD-ROM player #7205.  I think card # is CBD-24?.
I also need a cable  for controller to player.

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 859
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  1:02p
Subj: Toshiba CD_ROMs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Both Drives Include:  90 Day Warranty, External DIP switches, True 50 pin
  SCSI, 350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, newest ROM
  installed.  Diagnostic/cleaning done by service center.  NO special
  drivers required.  5.25 - Half Height Drive. 64k Buffer and manual.

205-837-5053 -=- Leave Message if not home, it WILL be returned -=-



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From: TONY ROBERTS                           Number: 860
  To: JIM HUSBAND                              Date: 06/15/93  8:56p
Subj: Speaking of Mag Rack                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Re: FOR TRADE - MAGAZINE RACK

Is there a new edition for 1992 or 1993 ??

If so, I'm interested...

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     6569 WWIV NET  6154 VNET  6550 ICEnet A.C.  1:3615/48 FIDONet
    Supra 14.4 * 300 Megs of FUN! * Remember, wear  your "raincoat" !

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From: CARLOS AVELLANET                       Number: 861
  To: JIM HUSBAND                              Date: 06/15/93  5:52p
Subj: Re: MITSUMI QUESTIONS                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jim Husband to All <=-

 JH> 1) Does anyone know if the OS2 2.1 distributed on CD-ROM will
 JH> install using the Mitsumi. I've seen several (beta) OS2 drivers,
 JH> but am unsure about 2.1 and installation requirements.

     No it does not. You can only install OS/2 2.1 direct from CD-ROM to
     floppy if you have a SCSI CD-ROM recognized by OS/2. You'll have to
     make all 25 diskettes using the program included in the CD, install
     from those floppies and then create and IMAGE file using VMDISK to
     load up MSCDEX. Is rather complicated for me to explain here.

Carlos.

... A feature is a bug with seniority.
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From: CHARLES HART                           Number: 862
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/15/93  8:47p
Subj: CD COMPARISONS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>           % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
  >          ---------------------------------------------------
  >>>   Note:  Diagonal reflects % of INTERNAL dupes within a given CD.  <<

MS>     PR1   PR2   NO7   NO8   SS1   SS2   MON   SC2   SV1   CDP   SWO
  >   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
  >PR1| .06%| .23%| 1.8%| 6.5%| 3.2%| 7.2%| 7.6%| 6.5%| .70%| 2.1%| 4.5%|
  >   +-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
  >PR2| .23%| .00%| .09%| .43%| .34%| 2.5%| 1.7%| .85%| .40%| .18%| .19%|

Ok, that update made the numbers more meaningful.  Thanks.

Now, how about indicating the situation where the CD fails to have all
the files required to make a program useful on it?  Take Pier 2, as a
classic example that I have and can relate a sad experience from:

  COVIS2.ZIP     244202  11-19-92  Covis 2 of 2

Looks interesting, if you are into the Mathematics area - right?  Now
try to find Disk *1* of 2.  It's not there, anywhere on the CD that I
can find.  There are other examples, but I think you get my point:

A product not done well should not be done at all, period!  Pier 2 is
demonstrably not done well and someone should audit the disk for these
failures instead of praising the disk to the high heavens.

Thanks for letting me get my 2 cents in......


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From: CHARLES HART                           Number: 863
  To: PAUL ELLIOTT                             Date: 06/15/93  9:12p
Subj: BBS Ready Sharware CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PE>All files are free of archive errors, archive comments, BBS ads, AV codes,
a
  >all known computer viruses. Also, all archive dates match the last date
with
  >the archive.

PE>Every effort has been made to avoid having multiple versions of the same
  >software.
  >There are no duplicates between Volume I and Volume II.

As I mentioned in another message, I have been somewhat disappointed by
Pier 2 due to several files being incomplete for their intended purpose
- for example:

  COVIS2.ZIP     244202  11-19-92  Covis 2 of 2

is on the disk but COVIS 1 of 2 is nowhere to be found.  This is either

a) A failure of the compiler to care what the user did with the files,
or:

b) A failure of the compiler to even look at the contents of the files
he is processing and thus (possibly) change the file name if the COVIS
on this disk is indeed complete.  Which in this case it is not, but the
concept is indeed possible.

In either case, it's gross negligence to include only part of the files
required to make the program perform the intended function.

How does your disk stack up in this area?


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From: CHARLES HART                           Number: 864
  To: JIM CUMMINGS                             Date: 06/15/93  9:18p
Subj: U.S. Govt CD-ROMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JC>Has anyone seen the CD-ROM put out by the U.S. Superintendent
  >of Documents that has the "U.S. Code, containing the general
  >and permanent laws of the U.S., in force on January 2, 1991"?
  >It costs $ 30.00 and I wondered if it was interesting or falls
  >into the curiosity category.

Thanks for mentioning that CD-ROM.  I had completely ignored the US
government as a source of information in this format and your message
reminded me that somewhere in that vast organization there's someone
right now publishing just the one I need.....

<g>


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From: BOB KELLY                              Number: 865
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  6:24a
Subj: SONY CD-ROM DRIVES WANTED               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for additional Sony CD-ROM drives for my BBS.

If they are 40-pin Sony Bus-compatible, and they cost around
$100 each, I will take them off your hands.

Do you have any that you want to sell?

Echo here, or call 804-483-1433. Thanks!

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From: VERNON MELTON                          Number: 866
  To: HOWARD ONEIL                             Date: 06/14/93  1:47p
Subj: Re: Trade Wanted                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                    -=> Quoting Howard Oneil to All <=-

 HO> ITEM 3 : Mitsubshi 1.2 Meg 5 1/4" floppy. (Excellent Condition,
 HO> Pulled from working system). GRAY
I'll offer $25.00 for this floppy drive.
 HO> ITEM 4 : VLSI Mini 80286 Motherboard w/512k. (Good condition,
 HO> No Documentation, w/EMS software).
 HO> FEATURES : Phoenix Bios & expandable to 4 megs on board,
 HO> using Sipp or Dram.
 HO> Original costs $100.00
I'll offer $15.00 for the MB...  can't hardly find a SIPP anymore.
Later,
      Vernon Melton

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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 867
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/14/93  9:16a
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Mike:

In a msg of <Sunday June 13 1993>, Mike Shannon writes to Tyler A. Wunder:

 TAW> MS>> Bible Library.................31.00
 MS> CA75 BIBLE LIBRARY - Nine Bibles and 20 reference books with
concordances.
 MS> Also has five word studies, 3000 sermon outlines, two commentaries,
 MS> and eight dictionaries. DOS

     Ok, sounds interesting.

 TAW> MS>> Shakespeare...................17.50
 MS> CA235 SHAKESPEARE - Complete collection of Shakespeare's works,
including
 MS> 37 plays, and 159 poems and sonnets. Provided in original form (Queen's
 MS> English), and plain English. DOS MAC

     What are the search capabilities of the disk?  Does it offer a
word/phrase search?  Sorry if this is a given, but I'm new to the cd rom
thing (haven't even bought one yet, but am looking for something to make me
want to).

 MS> Tyler - Hope that answers most of your questions.  Give me a call if you
 MS> want, and we can cuss and discuss. <g>

     Well, unless you've got a 1-800 number, I won't be calling long
distance, and will have to settle for this echo.




Tyler A. Wunder

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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 868
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/14/93  2:22p
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Mike:

In a msg of <Monday June 14 1993>, Tyler A. Wunder writes to Mike Shannon:

 TAW>      What are the search capabilities of the disk?  Does it offer a
 TAW> word/phrase search?  Sorry if this is a given, but I'm new to the cd
rom
 TAW> thing (haven't even bought one yet, but am looking for something to
make
 TAW> me want to).
 MS>> Tyler - Hope that answers most of your questions.  Give me a call if
 MS>> you want, and we can cuss and discuss. <g>
 TAW>      Well, unless you've got a 1-800 number, I won't be calling long
 TAW> distance, and will have to settle for this echo.

     Well, obviously I've changed my mind and realized that the phone number
is for placing orders as well as making inquiries (I guess I wasn't thinking
at 9 in the morning when I sent that one to you). Please disregard the last
message I sent you.




Tyler A. Wunder

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From: BRIAN WHEATLEY                         Number: 869
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/15/93  8:04a
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi, I will buy your tape, for $30. what type of games, would you put on it? I
live right abive Washington State, in Canada, in a City called Surrey, near
Vancouver, how much would this cost? Thanks, hope to hear from you soon.

Brian.

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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 870
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93 11:15p
Subj: NEC drive for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

.NEC external CDROM CDR36 w/8bit controller...$200..........used

James F. Porter
[phone]
 ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Who said that Interstellar Empires don't exit?


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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 871
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/15/93 10:49p
Subj: Florida Lion's Den In                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

|LN> They dislike the idea that we sell our ROMS for profits (or            |
|LN> better said, we distribute their shareware for a profit                |
|LN> from which they get nothing).                                          |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Lee

How come they never really got too upset about the people that used to
sell shareware floppy disks.....these guys were selling a disk they
paid less than a $.25 for at prices from $1.50 to $5.00 per disk.  I
would think that these guys were making more given the capital
investment required.

I believe that the Shareware CD-ROM disks, since they have thousands
of programs on them, have a broader appeal to the general public than
any one persons shareware program.....therefore generating more sales
than any individual shareware program.  If the programmers want to
capture this market for themselves.....Maybe they should write a
program that can do EVERYTHING.
___


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From: KEVIN WILLIAMS                         Number: 872
  To: VACLAV VYVODA                            Date: 06/14/93  8:53p
Subj: 7th Guest...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

It just so happens I have one up for sale, its internal, and if you know the
model number than you know what it is....Make an offer! I'm flexible

Toshiba XM-3301b for Sale....

               Reply here, trades considered....

               Kevin Williams

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 873
  To: KEITH HERALD                             Date: 06/15/93  3:20a
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-sale or trad               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KH> SS> I have STORM II adult CD-ROM for sale or trade, I would prefer

KH>        I have the Stareware CD that I will trade you for your STORM II.

I have seen most of the Stareware CD, but if I get no other trade
offers, I will trade...     Let me know if you are still interested.
           Thanks!
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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 874
  To: LEE HICKERSLY                            Date: 06/12/93 12:55a
Subj: .TXT files                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LH>Is there a cd that specializes in Adult .TXT files? Does anyone have
LH>a large amount of them built up from other cd's? I would like to get
LH>like one QIC-40 tape of .TXT files... I will sned the tape, or pay
LH>for yours (prefer that)..
LH>                                Thanx
LH>---
LH> * Origin: An Image Of Perfection <WINDOWS!> [phone] (1:104/124.0)
If you want Adult .TXT files I have about 1,200 of them, if want them
please call me and we can arrange a way to get them to you!
                                Sam Figueroa
                                Sam's Software


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 875
  To: DON HOUSTON                              Date: 06/13/93  7:31p
Subj: Gif/anim disks ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DH>What is a good video disk for BBS use?  Looking for G Gifs of everything
und
DH>the sun.  Animations are optional.  Anyone got any recomendations. Also
DH>looking for an R gif disk.  I have heard Giffy Gold is a pretty good one.
A
DH>comments on it?  Any other recomendations?

DH>        I am using SOFTWARE VAULT from American Data Bankers bot Vol. 1
DH>        & Vol.2 All 1992 and some 1993 stuff. Nice folk. Their 800 # is
DH>        775-4232. Reasonably priced and quality wares!
DH>===
DH> * TLX v2.00 * Dogs crawl under gates, software crawls under Windoze....


DH>--- TosScan 1.00
DH> * Origin: T.A.B.B. Tampa's largest Fidonet BBS 813-961-6242 (1:377/6)
 Try Gif's galore, it has about 6,000 gifs, they range from cars to
 swimsuits, to space, to animals?!!  Truly a good variety .GIF disc, I
 have it and recommend it! It's also priced pretty good!?
                                Sam Figueroa
                                Sam's Software
                                [phone]


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 876
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 06/15/93  3:54p
Subj: Re: GEEZ                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> 800 numbers is a little bias :)
 IA> Also they provide 800 numbers to only to reputable
 IA> companies with good payment history.

800#s are available to anyone who pays for a telephone line.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 877
  To: THE SHADOWSPAWN                          Date: 06/15/93  4:01p
Subj: CD-ROM Changere                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TS> changers.  I would like
 TS> to purchase one for use with my BBS, but have been unable to find a
 TS> dealer here in Tampa who sells them.  If anyone can provide any
 TS> information on where I might find a drive, prices,
 TS> etc, I would greatly
 TS> appreciate it.

The Pioneer 600A from us is $819 bare and $899 with interface kit.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 878
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/15/93  4:02p
Subj: OTHERWARE I IN STOCK: $25               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS>  We are  pleased to announce  special  pricing  for
 MS> OtherWare 1. This CD-ROM
 MS>  contains more than 600 megabytes of  current
 MS> Macintosh  and Amiga shareware
 MS>  and public domain software.

Mike.   Send me one COD if you would or I'll swap ya something for it.  I
want to put one on the BBS.  Thanks.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 879
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  4:03p
Subj: Low Low CDROM Prices                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

************** PCJ Computing - Partial CDROM List - 6/15 ***************

   ShareWare (** BBS Ready)          Graphics/Sound/Educational (cont.)
AB20 Amiga CD-Rom............15.95  Dinosaur Adventure MPC.........33.95
America's Premier 1993 Sharw.24.95  Education Master or Business...19.95
C Users Group Library........31.45  Encyclopedia of Clip Art.......26.95
California Collection........16.95  Encyclopedia of Sound..........15.95
CD Powerbox.............**...22.95  Fonts #1.......................27.95
Fred Fish On-Line(Amiga)**...49.95  Fontmaster #1-18.95....or #2...27.95
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware....15.45  Gifs Galore....................16.45
Gigabyte Gold...........**...24.95  Jets & Props...................31.95
HamCall (Ham Radio Freq).....44.95  Lovely Ladies or Mother Earth..27.95
Ham Radio (Shareware)........15.95  Midi Music Shop................31.95
Libris Britannica.......**...52.95  Mother of All Clipart (23000)..23.95
Lion Share..............**...27.95  Publish It v2.0 (with Manual)..32.95
Magnum Sight & Sound....**...34.95  Publique or Fresh Arte.........35.95
Mega Audio Visual (AV)..**...23.95  Publishers Dream Disc..........37.95
Megarom 1 or SDN 1......**...19.95  Publishers Paradise............32.95
Megarom 2...............**...23 95  Readers Library (2000 works)...31.95
Monster Disc (2 Cds-92).**...42.95  Reference Library..............27.45
Nightowl Bus. Applications...23.45  Sci-Fi (Pics/Sound/Files).**...28.95
NightOwl 5.0............**...17.95  Space Adventure................33.95
Nightowl 7.0............**...25.95  So Much Screenware (Gifs).**...27.95
Nightowl 8.0............**...27.95  Sound Works (Software).........18.95
Original Shareware 1992.**...17.95  Swimwear & More (SVGA).........29.95
OS/2 Archives (Hobbes).......15.95  Swimwear 1993.............**...28.95
PC Sig #9...............**...17.95  Talking Schoolhouse............36.45
PC Sig #10..............**...24.95  Talking Jungle or Classc.Tale..36.45
PC Sig #11..............**...28.95  Time Almanac 1990-17.95...1991-26.95
PC Sig #12..............**...28.95  VGA Spectrum ..#1-16.95.....#2-24.95
Phoenix v3.0............**...19.95  Wild Places or World View......29.95
Pier Shareware #1.......**...28.45  Women of Venus (Swimsuits).....29.95
Powerpak Gold...........**...24.95  Aircraft Encyclopedia..........36.95
SCI-FI (Pics,Sound).....**...28.45  Amer.Bus.Fone Book #1..$19 #2..27.95
Shareware 1993..........**...25.95  Animals SD Zoo (MPC or DOS)....27.45
ShareWare Overload...........15.95  Audobon Mammals or Birds.......26.95
Shareware Studio #1.....**...21.95  Bible Library (9 Bibles+)......28.95
Shareware Studio #2(NEW)**...25.95  Bibles & Religion..............16.45
Shareware Tiger.........**...29.95  Brit. Family Choice or Select..32.95
Sharew Extravaganza(4 cds)**.43.95  CD Cad v3.7 with manual........31.95
Simtel 20 (Gov't Sharw).**...15.95  Cinnemania.....................57.95
Software Vault #1.......**...24.45  Classic Collection (4 Pak).....53.95
Software Vault #2.(NEW).**...26.45  College Handbook (1992)........18.95
So Much Shareware #1....**...21.95  Complete Bookshop..............15.95
SO Much Shareware #2....**...28.95  Compton's Interactive Encylop..99.95
Sound Sensations.............15.95  Compton's MM Encyclopedia......69.95
Source Code (Unix/Dos).......19.95  Composer Quest.................38.45
Technotools (Programmers)....15.95  Consumer Information Disc......38.95
Top 2000 Shareware...........24.95  Crossword Cracker..............24.45
Windows 1993............**...27.95  Desert Storm...................34.95
Windows - CICA..........**...15.95  Dictionaries & Languages.......15.95
Windoware....................15.95  Elec. Home Libr.(250 books)....36.95
Window Master................19.95  Family Doctor..................29.45
X11R5/GNU CDRom..............24.95  Global Explorer (Delorme)......96.95
       Games/Educational            Great Cities of World 1 or 2...24.95
7th Guest (in stock).........54.95  Great Wonders of the World.....42.95
Adventures of Willy Beamish..29.95  Greatest Books Collection......44.95
Arthur's Teacher Trouble.....28.95  Grolier's Encyl. w/Ref Libr...229.95
Battlechess MPC..............29.95  Grolier Ill. Encyl. v2 (STW)...38.95
BattleChess Enhanced.........34.95  Grolier Ill. Encyl. v5 MPC.....47.95
Beauty & the Beast(Windows)..31.95  Guiness Disc of Records (92)...26.95
Carmen San Diego World Dlx...28.50  Inter. Business/Economic Atlas.24.95
Cd Game Pack v.1-19.95...v.2-26.95  Jazz, a MM history.............69.95
ChessMaster 3000 MPC.........26.45  Languages of the World.........47.95
Crossword Cracker............23.95  Library of the Future 1........54.45
DeathStar Arcade Battles.....15.95  MacMillan Dict for Children....38.95
Games 1993..............**...27.95  Magazine Rack..................23.95
GameMaster (Over 500 Games)..19.95  Mayo Clinic....................34.95
Golden Immortal..............24.95  Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing....27.95
Guy Spy......................48.95  Monarch Notes (Complete set)...63.95

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 880
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  4:04p
Subj: Low Low CDROM Prices Cont...            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

******* PCJ Computing - Partial CDROM List - 6/15 - Continued **********

House of Games...............28.95  National Business Directory....38.95
Kings Quest 5................24.95  Nat. Geographic MPC Mammals....26.95
Just Grandma & Me............41.95  National MM Parks Guide........29.95
Jones in the Fast Lane.......23.45  North American Fax Book........48.95
Loom.........................24.95  Our Solar System(Photos,Data)..15.95
Manhole......................39.95  P.C. Medic (Fix your PC).......32.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose........23.95  Play w/Lang-Englh/Frenc/Span...49.95
Monkey Island (Secrets of)...25.95  Pharmicist Guide to Drugs......29.95
North American Indians.......49.95  Prophone Business 1993.........42.95
PC Gameroom..................28.45  Prophone(3 Set)-49.95..(7 Set)128.95
PC Sig Games.................23.95  Return to the Moon.............37.95
Peter & the Wolf (Windows)...26.95  Roger Ebert Movie Companion....42.95
Secret Weapons of LuftWaffe..25.95  Sports Best on CDRom...........27.95
Sherlock or Shakespeare......16.95  Street Atlas USA (Windows).....87.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1..24.95  Tempra Access Photo CD Softw...31.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2..54.95  TimeTable of Hist./Sci or Art..25.95
SoundWav.....................28.95  Too Many TypeFonts (Laser).....15.95
Space Quest IV...............24.95  ToolWorks Reference Library....26.95
Spirit of Excalibur..........38.45  Total Baseball Encyclopedia....34.95
Stellar 7....................24.95  U.S. Atlas / Automap...........28.95
StoryTime 1 or 2.............24.95  U.S. History...................33.95
Trump Castle-5 casino games..36.95  Visions of Saturn..............24.95
Ultima I - VI................35.95  World Atlas or US/World Atls...28.95
Wing Commander/Secret Missn..34.50  World Atlas or US Atlas MPC....28.95
Wing Commander/Ultima 6......29.95  World Fact Book (CIA)..........24.95
Wing Commander 2 Deluxe......57.95  World Traveler.................15.95
Wing Commander 2/UUnderWrld..59.95  World of Flight or Trains......33.95
Wrath of the Demon...........37.95  World Tour (CIA)...............23.95
   Graphics/Sound/Educational
Aesops Fables................29.95 *************************************
Barney Bear-School or Space..21.95 ** We meet all legit / noncloseout **
Clip Art Galore...........**.31.95 ** prices in this echo. No hidden  **
Clip Art Goliath (Pcx, Tif)..15.95 ** charges for credit cards. Call  **
Clip Art Heaven..............28.95 ** on Adult Titles. Ship Worldwide **
Colossal Cookbook............15.95 *************************************
Danger Hot Stuff 1...........19.95   Voice (24 Hours)    - 615-339-0235
Danger Hot Stuff 2...........24.95   Inquiries/Questions - 615-339-0235
Desktop Bookshop.............27.95   When Ready to Order - 800-547-7817
         CDROM Drives                FaxBack (24 Hours)  - 615-339-0235
Pioneer 600A (Bare).........819.00   Fax (24 Hours)      - 615-479-1047
Pioneer 600A with Kit.......899.00   BBS (14400)         - 615-479-1047
Pioneer 604X (Bare)........1197.00   BBS (HST)           - 615-478-2890
Pioneer 604X with Kit......1297.00  Toshiba 3401 Int. (Bare)......455.00
Mitsumi 350ms Int w/Int. Kit - 195  Toshiba 3401 Ext. (Bare)......550.00

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 881
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/15/93  9:30p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Terry, the Giffy Gold has not shown up for trade on the Physical Therapy
disc, so it is yours in trade for My Private Collection Vol. II if you are
still intersted.  Please mail USPS priority, and echo back mailing
instructions.  I will send out the Physical Therapy disc by USPS Priority as
soonj as I receive mailing instructions by echo.


Michael Benge
4540 washington RD
College Park GA 30349.

Look forward to hearing from you.


 * MKRead v1.01 * Silly wabbit - QWKs are for kids


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 882
  To: ALL DEALERS                              Date: 06/15/93  9:32p
Subj: Catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please forward a copy of your catalog, including all available titles and
topics to the following address.  I am over 21 yrs of age.

Michael Benge
4540 washington rd
college park ga 30349

Thanx in advance.

 * MKRead v1.01 * Have a nice day - unless you've made other plans


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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 883
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/14/93 11:47a
Subj: Cd powerbox disc                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> 650+ megs, around 60/40 1992/1991 files.  Over 6000 files in all.  Full▐
 MS> FILES.BBS listings, with over 50 file areas.  At 23 smackers, not a bad▐
 MS> CD at all, but if you already have Night Owl 7, you probably don't need▐
 MS> this one.  Give me a call and we can discuss more!                     ▐
═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════
Mike-

So how does it compare with Phoenix 3 since its basically the same as NO7?




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From: RICK SAMUELS                           Number: 884
  To: JIM CUMMINGS                             Date: 06/15/93  1:19p
Subj: U.S. Govt CD-ROMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

14 Jun 93, Jim Cummings writes to All:

 JC> Has anyone seen the CD-ROM put out by the U.S. Superintendent
 JC> of Documents that has the "U.S. Code, containing the general
 JC> and permanent laws of the U.S., in force on January 2, 1991"?
 JC> It costs $ 30.00 and I wondered if it was interesting or falls
 JC> into the curiosity category.

It's ok.  It's two years out of date now, though.  It uses I-Search/Windows
Personal Librarian (not one of my favorite search engines).  The code is one
200+ meg ASCII file!  It's worth 30 bucks if you're interested in Federal
statutes.


Rick Samuels

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 885
  To: KENNETH WATTS                            Date: 06/15/93  9:15p
Subj: Re: CHEAP CDROM DRIVE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KW>     How about a few specs on that drive.  Brand name,seek
KW> time,transfer

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00
2. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Both Drives Include:  90 Day Warranty, External DIP switches, True 50 pin
  SCSI, 350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, newest ROM
  installed. NO special drivers. 5.25-HH Drive, 64k Buffer. Printed Manual

205-837-5053 -=- Leave Message if not home, it WILL be returned -=-

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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 886
  To: BOB KELLY                                Date: 06/16/93  2:31p
Subj: SONY CD-ROM DRIVES WANTED               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Bob Kelly said:
 BK> I am looking for additional Sony CD-ROM drives for my BBS.

 BK> If they are 40-pin Sony Bus-compatible, and they cost
 BK> around
 BK> $100 each, I will take them off your hands.

 BK> Do you have any that you want to sell?

 BK> Echo here, or call 804-483-1433. Thanks!

 BK> ---
 BK>  * Origin: The File Allocation Table in VA - 804-483-1482
 BK> (1:275/16)
 BK> 6000

  I have one for sale...call me at [phone].Ask for Scott.If you
have anything to trade I may consider.It has 150k/sec and 360-380ms.
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From: ROB WILLIAMS                           Number: 887
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/13/93  2:38p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Toshiba CR-ROM drive for sale

Model XM-3100B

Internal Unit, no SCSI controller

I have been unable to make this work consistantly with my Amiga, and cannot
determine if the drive is good, or my setup is messed up.  I did see it
work on the system of the guy I bought it from.

$50, no warranty, expressed or written.

If interested contact:  Rob Williams, [phone]

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 888
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93 12:53p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you are looking for prices on the latest CD-Roms, give us a call or
post your address in this echo.  We'd be glad to get you a catalog in
the mail.  Thanks!

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: DAVID SYLVESTER                        Number: 889
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93 12:31p
Subj: Wanted...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send CD-ROM Disk catalogs to:

Public Works Inc.
168 Shamrock Dr.
Ventura, Ca
93003

Please include prices as well.

  Slyman

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From: JOSEPH WOLFSON                         Number: 890
  To: RICK ASHWORTH                            Date: 06/15/93 12:36a
Subj: Re: 7th guest trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Rick Ashworth to Mark Smitka <=-

 RA> Hello Mark!

 RA> 06 Jun 93, Mark Smitka writes to Rick Ashworth:

 MS> You sound like just the kind of player Trilobyte had in mind when they
 MS> created T7G.  :-)

 RA> I'm too tired to figger that out, so I'll take that as a compliment!
 <g>
 RA> Actually, I already have T7G, but I'll always try to scavenge extras
 RA> for friends around here!  They're all jealous, and local outlets are
 RA> sold out, except for Babbages for $79!
 RA> Rick

Sears carries it for $59 at all it's stores......

Joseph

Now a question do you need a double speed CD Rom to run it?  I have a
Sony 535 access speed is .55 and transfer is 150 to bust at 600  average
350.

Thanks.
Joseph


... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?"
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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 891
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/15/93  3:53p
Subj: Bb/ppg                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello again, Lee.

It was good to chat with you on the phone today.

The name of the dealer that had the supply of Busty Babes and Powerpak Gold,
and who needs to hear from you about the MWARS_20 thing, is Westland
Computers, of Westland, MI, on the northwest side of Detroit.

I don't know how many of each they have, but there were still several on the
table when I last looked.

Watch your incoming snail-mailbox.  I'll be looking forward to hearing from
you.

Fair winds,

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

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From: DON                                    Number: 892
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  1:28p
Subj: New 4-Disc Shareware Collection.. 69.95!  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
                     ATTENTION CD-ROM SHAREWARE COLLECTORS
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
   Now is the time to purchase Shareware Extravaganza.  This 4-DISC SET
containing 25,000 PROGRAMS can be yours for only $69.95, a savings of $30
from
the price advertised in the Computer Shopper.  This ultimate collection
contains Business, Utilities, Games, and over 300 Megs of Windows Shareware.
To take advantage of this special offer, we need at least 9 orders for the
set.
To order, send mail to one of the places listed below.  Upon reciept of your
order, we will either send you a bill, or let you know that we did not have
enough orders to fufill your request.  This is a limited time offer for the
largest shareware collection available anywhere!
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
To Order :   BBS [phone], Fidonet 1:3635/55, Or Respond Here With
Order
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 893
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/15/93  8:54p
Subj: Re: INFO WANTED!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All Dealers <06-13-93 10:24> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> page 406, there's an ad from an outfit called Romulus Entertainment.

I know these people, let me ask them on a publisher's level--They (one
person) merged with another friend of mine last week to form another company.
So since I know who is behind Rhomulus, I can get an answer. Don't know how
long it will take but I will be back with some info.

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 894
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 06/15/93  6:21p
Subj: nix pix hot pix 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

14 Jun 93 13:21, Ben Nation wrote to All:

 BN> Nix Pix Hot Pix 1, being sold for $75 (new). Limited number of disks.
 BN> Original Hot Pix 1.  call Voice 904-779-7994 or BBS at 904-777-0778.

I was under the impression that you only had one disk, and that I had bought
it.  You said that you were disappointed that it wasn't BBS ready and
intended to return it to your source if I wasn't interested, have you decided
to obtain several more instead?

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From: ANDREA HEARN                           Number: 895
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/15/93 12:45a
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Overheard Doug Miller mumbleing to Jim Lambert about Free CD-Rom
Catalogs!....

 JL>I am now sending out our new CD-Rom catalog from Computer Works.
 JL>Anyone
 JL>wishing to be added to our mailing list, please leave me a
 JL>message with
 JL>your address.  Specify if you are interested in adult titles.
 JL>Thanks!

Please add me to your mailing list...

Andrea Hearn
5520 Harrison Street #68
North Highlands, CA 95660

Any other Retailers feel free to send your catalog




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From: BILL HENDERSON                         Number: 896
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 06/15/93  2:07p
Subj: Wanted...7th guest                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

I have a VERY slightly used 7th Guest I'll let go for $40.00 or will trade
for Wing Commander II cdrom. Interested, leave me a note or call me at
704-399-6555.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 897
  To: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                         Date: 06/15/93  6:01p
Subj: PIER 2 NOW SHIPPING                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GK>Mike, what's the overlap of Pier 1 and 2- are they just updates? Also, the
sa
GK>question with Owl 7 and 8. Thanks!

Greg,

My comparison shows only .23% duplication of filenames between Pier 1 and
Pier 2.  Realize however that the program I used only registers "identical"
filenames (without extension) as dupes.  Therefore, a file like
"PACMAN10.ZIP" on Pier 1 that is updated to "PACMAN11.ZIP" on Pier 2 would
not show up as a duplicate.  Same goes for the Night Owls.

Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 898
  To: KAMAL HAFFAR                             Date: 06/15/93  6:01p
Subj: My cds order!!!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KH>I am really anxious to get those cds, especially the pier2 since I have
KH>promised my bbs users that it was going to be up and running at least a
week
KH>ago.  You can imagine the amount of messages I have received from my users
KH>enquiring about those disks.

Kamal,

As I told you on the phone, I am in the process of clearing this up.  We
sent these by Air Mail to your address in Canada, and the package was
insured.  I've given all the info to the Post Office, and will get a
duplicate shipment off to you as soon as they confirm non-delivery.

As you probably know, shipments to Canada are erratic.  I've had
customers tell me they'll receive CD's in two days, and others tell me
it takes over a month in some cases, so please be patient.

Thanks for the order, and you should be receiving something very soon.

Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 899
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  6:01p
Subj: TOP 5 ADULT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

**************************************************************************
                     TOP 5 BEST-SELLING ADULT CD'S!
**************************************************************************

1. NIGHTWATCH INTERACTIVE - You make the rounds with a beautiful late night
   security guard as you check out the action in her complex.  This is a
   custom-shot, full length interactive movie with over 100 minutes of
   digital video!  Shot from the first person point of view, and viewed on
   a 320 x 240 pixel screen at a realistic 10 frames per second, Nightwatch
   Interactive is the first full length adult movie that puts the user
   directly in the action! (Req. Windows 3.1)  ** $65.00 **

2. BUSTY BABES - A premium quality BBS-ready adult CD packed full of
   fantastic hi-rez GIF images.  Image quality and selective picks are
   what sets Busty aside from the rest.  BBS-ready.  ** $33.00 **

3. GIFFY GOLD - Brand new from San Diego comes the first TRUE "R"-rated
   CD designed with the sysop in mind.  Almost 1000 original, beautiful
   images of scantily-clad models, complete with full FILES.BBS listings
   make GIFFY GOLD the perfect erotic CD for the end-user or sysop who
   has something a little "milder" in mind.  BBS-ready.  ** $39.00 **

4. SWIMWEAR 1993 - 1500 VGA photos of beautiful swimsuit-clad women.
   All GIF's are 640x480 to 1024x768 resolution.  No x-rated material
   here.  BBS-ready.  ** $29.00 **

5. STORM 3-PAK - A classic 3-CD set from the originators of the adult CD.
   There is little or no duplication between Storm 1, 2, and 3, and all
   discs are BBS-compatible, with a full complement of GIFs, animation,
   text files, and adult games.  Price reduced.  BBS-ready.  ** $75.00 **

   ** SPECIAL OFFER:  Buy any two above and take a 5% discount.  Buy
                      any three and deduct 7%.  Buy all five and take 10%
                      off!  (This offer is for a limited time only)

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

---
 ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ E-Mailing frequencies are open Captain.

--- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR
(1:3407/101)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 900
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  6:01p
Subj: PIER 1 ONLY $29!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

.........................................................................
                        STARVECTOR HAS PIER 1 !!!
.........................................................................

                               PRICE: $29

 By now you've all heard about it, and there isn't much more that can
 be said.  Simply put, this is a definite keeper!  Get one if you haven't
 already done so.

* 5800+ 1992 shareware programs w/ 50% dated after 8/92.
* Fully BBS-compatible, with VERY clean file listings. (lots of attention
  to detail)
* Only .06% internal dupes.
* Less than 1% duplication to Night Owl 7.
* Less than 7% duplication to Night Owl 8.

If you've put this CD on the back burner because of its relatively high
price, then now's your chance!  Get the premium shareware CD that has
received rave reviews from users and editors alike!  Pier1 is arguably
the highest-quality shareware CD to ever be produced, and Starvector is
proud to announce its addition to our lineup!

                  >> ONLY $29.00 WHILE SUPPLIES LAST <<

Special package deals:

        1.  Pier1 w/ Night Owl 7....................$57.00 (1% dupes)
        2.  Pier1 w/ Pier2..........................$65.00 (1% dupes)
        3.  Pier1 w/ Night Owl 8....................$67.00 (7% dupes)
        4.  Pier1 w/ Night Owl 7 and 8..............$87.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

---
 ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ I think my data transmission is low on fluid.

--- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
 * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR
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From: BILL SCHNELL                           Number: 901
  To: JIM HUSBAND                              Date: 06/15/93  1:32p
Subj: MITSUMI QUESTIONS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Jim!

13 Jun 93 18:11, Jim Husband wrote to All:

 JH>     I have a Mitsumi LU005S, and hope someone can help with several
 JH> questions.

I'll give it a shot.

 JH>     1) Does anyone know if the OS2 2.1 distributed on CD-ROM will
 JH> install using the Mitsumi. I've seen several (beta) OS2 drivers,
 JH> but am unsure about 2.1 and installation requirements.

 JH>     2) What is the latest Mitsumi driver (dates &/or version)?

I've sucessfully installed the 2.1 beta, and anticipate no troubles with the
GA 2.1. You simply edit the config.sys on the 2 boot disks you make to
install the mitsumi driver. Piece of cake. Check with your local Fernwood
distribution site for the latest drivers. I'm using the Noller Driver from
Germany, and it works flawlessly!

 JH>     4) I added a Sound Galaxy NX board, that will also serve as a
 JH> controller for the CD. However, I have only been able to get the
 JH> software polling driver (supplied with CD, not Sound board) to work
 JH> with it. The Sound Galaxy has two CD drivers. The one indicated for
 JH> a Mitsumi drive displays "Panasonic" when it loads, and then fails.
 JH> I then tried the other driver (thinking that the doc was simply
 JH> wrong), and got no further.

Sorry, no help here.

Bill

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 * Origin: Tulsa Gas & Electric BBS - We Got What It Takes (1:170/200)
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From: MAX HILL                               Number: 902
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93 10:00a
Subj: NEW CD-ROM SHAREWARE                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       BIG SKY CD-ROM     <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
          The downloader's ROM      OVER 7000 + files
.................................................................
            ORDER LINE  Voice 1-406-586-8344       > 8:00 A.M.
              ORDER LINE  FAX   [phone]     > 7:00 P.M.
               * We Pay shipping 2nd day UPS       > MST
                  * MasterCard, VISA, COD company check

PCBoard users will be pleasantly surprised to find that we have
included special tools that will allow them to install BigSky
ROM in just a few minutes -- not hours.
The PCBoard IDX file was created before the Files.BBS and
Descript.ion files were laid down on the ROM.
This software was designed and developed by Martin Productions.
Over 7,000 files using PKWARE, Inc.'s PKZIP (R) 2.04g DeflatX
MAXIMUM compression are on this ROM, including .GIF, .WAV, .ICO,
and .BMP's.  Where there were hundreds of small icon files, we
combined them into downloadable 20K files, so there is no inflated
file count on this ROM (just so you'll buy the product).
All files are True Date Stamped, based on largest file in the
archive; there's no false advertising here.  If you're a SysOp,
we know you care about your users and don't want them thinking
that a file just came out when, in fact, it is a year old.  We
do have older files on our ROM, but if -- and only if -- we
feel it is something useful or interesting.
NO MISSING FILES OR WASTED TIME!
All archive files were scanned with McAfee Associates 5/5/93
SCAN 9.15 V104, which looks for 2,049 different viruses and their
variants.
All archives have a FILE_ID.DIZ to identify them.  If one wasn't
present, we added it.
Almost no data files are on this ROM.  We expect you to find
other sources for collections of data-type ROM's, and you can look
forward to BigSky #2's being almost all unique digitized images
and files.
We've listened to you on FidoNet; we monitor the Echos:  CD-ROM,
CD-ROM sales, VIRUS info, and DIRTY_DOZEN.  We've taken the time
to find and remove any HACK Report Files, illegal commercial
programs, programs that won't run right out of the ZIP file, and
anything else we've heard about.  Special thanks to the creators
of and contributors to the Hack Report.
Also, since there are inevitably problems with file descriptions,
every BigSky ROM purchaser who sends in the registration card
will be given access to PC-Montana's Special File Description
Update Area -- FREE -- to download all new updates as they become
available.
Files listed in DIR files but missing from Disk -- NONE!
Duplicate files found in Disk subdirectories -- NONE!
Duplicate file names across the whole ROM -- NONE!
Files found on Disk but missing from DIR files -- NONE!
Duplicate files found in DIR files -- NONE!
Files.BBS and Directory Tree have been set up for MOST BBS's.
Each subdirectory will have a FILES.BBS detailed description
list for operators of WildCat BBS's to load the file descriptions
quickly from CD-ROM to their hard disk database.
Cost $48.00  We think you'll be happy with this ROM purchase.  We
have checked the stats to see what users want.  This is TRULY the
Downloader's ROM.


 * OLX 2.2 * Clinton orders Typewriters to update Whitehouse! sheesh!
--- FidoPCB v1.3 [ff105/b]
 * Origin: PC-Montana BBS - Manhattan, MT (406)-284-3120 [1:3400/26]
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From: MAX HILL                               Number: 903
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  7:28p
Subj: BIG SKY ROM NOW SHIPPING                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                      BIG SKY ROM
         ********* THE DOWNLOADERS ROM *********


 7024 Archives, 664,860,429 bytes of downloadable archives,
 repackaged or compressed for the first time including .GIF,
 .WAV, .ICO, and .BMP files.

 All archive files use PKWARE, Inc.'s PKZIP (R) 2.04g MAXIMUM
 compression DeflatX algorithm.  With special recognition to
 Phil Katz for Ver 2 of PkZIP making this possible.

 All archive files were scanned with McAfee Associates 5/5/93
 SCAN 9.15 V104, which looks for 2,049 different viruses and
 their variants.

 All archives have a FILE_ID.DIZ to identify them.  If one wasn't
 present, we added it, AGAIN EVERY ARCHIVE HAS an archive
 description your downloaders are going to love this feature!

 All archives are True Date stamped based on the largest file.

 All archives compared to the lastest HACK Report lists, to remove
 any illegal, commercial or hacked programs on our ROM.  Special
 thanks to the creators of and contributors to the Hack Report.

 No unnessasary files or subdirectorys clutering up this ROM.

 Never before released Windows OuterWare Wallpaper files featuring
 4UP images of the Geothermal Wonders of Yellowstone National Park.

 4DOS Users - All subdirectories and files have FILE DESCRIPTIONS!!


 WildCat BBS Users All Download Directories have FILES.BBS lists!!!

 PCBoard BBS Sysops - Our SETMEUP Program builds your whole
 subdirectory!

 Files listed in DIR files but missing from Disk -- NONE!
 Duplicate files found in Disk subdirectories    -- NONE!
 Files found on Disk but missing from DIR files  -- NONE!
 Duplicate files found in DIR files              -- NONE!
 Duplicate file names across the whole ROM       -- NONE!


 If your a single rom BBS or running a six pack THIS rom will ease
 your apprenhensions about which rom your users will download from.
 38 file areas simply structured so that even the novice user will
 feel comfortable.
 Our stats chose the file areas, and from a cross section of users
 age 15 to 46, both professional and home users, the concept of the
 downloaders ROM emerged.

                   THE $48.00 ALTERNATIVE

   SALES AND PRODUCT SUPPORT 1-406-586-8344 VOICE
   SALES - FAX [phone]  VISA & MASTERCARD welcome
                             C.O.D. COMPANY CHECK  OK
--- FidoPCB v1.3 [ff105/b]
 * Origin: PC-Montana BBS - Manhattan, MT (406)-284-3120 [1:3400/26]
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From: BEN NATION                             Number: 904
  To: MARC FONTENOT                            Date: 06/16/93 10:14a
Subj: items for sale or trade...              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Yes I still have it, call 904-779-7994, if you want it.


--- Maximus 2.01wb
 * Origin: PayPhone Junction BBS, Jacksonville, Fl. (1:112/6)
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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 905
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/13/93  9:34a
Subj: Hitachi CDROM drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Well what would 12 drives and 3 cards cost?

Seems like.... about 1400 dollars! Lots less than 2 of the 6 pack units,
and if one broke, its LOTS cheaper to fix and/or replace. The 6-pack
drives are nice, but the cost throws them out of the ball park!
Later!
Matt


--- WM v2.07/92-0380
 * Origin: MEG*A*BITE BBS of Essexville, MI  [phone] (1:239/675)
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 906
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/17/93  6:59a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: 4264
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->                                           $26 Bibles & Religion
->                           $13 Britannica Select
->           $39 Busty Babes
-> Carmen San Diego                                          $27 CD Game

Hey Patrick...

Your line length is too long.  Keep in mind that *spaces* at the end of
a line can cause the same thing to happen.  Here's a Qbasic program that
will strip spaces from the right hand side:

OPEN "c:\bbs_ad.txt" for INPUT as #1
OPEN "c:\new_ad.txt" for OUTPUT as #2
DO
    LINE INPUT #1,a$
    new_a$=RTRIM$(a$)
    print #2,new_a$
LOOP UNTIL EOF(1)
CLOSE

Hope this helps...

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 907
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/17/93  7:08a
Subj: Florida Lion's Den In                   Refer: 4313
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> How come they never really got too upset about the people that used t
-> sell shareware floppy disks.....these guys were selling a disk they
-> paid less than a $.25 for at prices from $1.50 to $5.00 per disk.  I
-> would think that these guys were making more given the capital
-> investment required.
->
-> I believe that the Shareware CD-ROM disks, since they have thousands
-> of programs on them, have a broader appeal to the general public than
-> any one persons shareware program.....therefore generating more sales
-> than any individual shareware program.  If the programmers want to
-> capture this market for themselves.....Maybe they should write a
-> program that can do EVERYTHING.

Your 2nd paragraph answers your first, i.e. too much money is being
made - which has changed the rules.

tim
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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 908
  To: 4000                                     Date: 06/17/93  4:23p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: 1344
Read: NO                                    Private: No

NOTE: This message was originally addressed to ALL
      and was forwarded to you by TERESA SEMBRAT
                          --------------------
                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: [phone]
               We have the following Specials this week:

  PHOENIX 3.0....$19.95                 VGA SPECTRUM #2......$24.95
  NIGHTOWL 7.0...$29.95                 PC-SIG Games.........$23.95
  NIGHTOWL 8.0...$49.95                 WINDOWS 1993.........$29.95
  POWERPAK.......$19.95                 THE ANIMALS......DOS $29.95
  CDPOWERBOX.....$29.95                                  WIN $29.95
  MAMMALS........$30.95                 PROPHONE  3 DISK.....$89.00
                                                  7 DISK....$209.00
  GROLIERS NEW! ENCYCLOPEDIA...WIN: $69 ** SPECIAL **
                               DOS  $69 ** SPECIAL **

                       ** PIER 1 **...$45.00
               We will not be undersold on this disk!
                      Find it cheaper?  Call us!


                    ** MONSTER DISK 2 DISK SET **
                    ALL 1992 AND 1993 SHAREWARE
               BBS COMPATIBLE WITH VIRTUALLY EVERY BBS
                           ** $45.00 **
               We will not be undersold on this disk!
                     Find it cheaper?  Call us!

            Buy any disk above and receive PHOENIX 3.0 $6.95
              Buy A Caddie for $2.99 with any Disk Purchase
                     Please add $5.00 for shipping
*********************************************************************
               All prices in effect thru 4/10/93
   VISA          1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M        MASTERCARD
              ---- 100s of Titles Available ----



 * WCE 1.02/2072 * Documentation is for people who can't read.


--- WM v2.09/92-0277
 * Origin: The MARKetplace BBS! [phone] (1:100/550)
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 909
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/17/93  8:56p
Subj: CD Stats                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Here's some stuff from this month's CD-ROM World magazine (their phone
number is 203-226-6967):

The American CD ROM market is 4 times larger than Europe & 3 times
larger than Asia.

4% of existing PC's have CD's installed.

The PC installed base is growing at 10% per year. The CD installed base
is growing at a rate of 50% per year.

The North American sales tally for CD ROM titles was 1.2 billion in 1992
& is expected to be 1.7 in 1993... Holy smokes.

The number of CD ROM drives manufactured increased by 160% from 1991 to
1992.

By the end of 1993, it's estimated that there will be 5.8 million
installed CD ROM players.

tim
moderator
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 910
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/15/93 11:59p
Subj: 4sale or trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SP> LOOM---CD-ROM game--real voices and cool music
SP> Make an offer on all or part of items.I might except trade.If

A dealer on this echo offers it for $25 new. I'll give you $15 shipped
any way you like.

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From: KEVIN DEW                              Number: 911
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  3:51p
Subj: The Seventh Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        I just got my first CD-Rom drive, but in order to afford it, I
could not recieve any CD's as a "GROUP" rate... I've borowed the
Sherlock CD, and loved it, and would love even more to get The Seventh
Guest as my first CD. With all the people that sell CD's out there, I
could not possibly call everyone and get the current price. If all you
dealers out there could E-mail me your price, I will buy the cheapest
offer I get. Any offers would be appriciated..

Kevin Dew

--- QScan v5.11l [beta]
 * Origin: On-line Systems * Gulfport MS * 601-896-3970 * 1:3604/30
(1:3604/30)
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From: PAUL HAMMERSCHMIDT                     Number: 912
  To: JIM SHARRER                              Date: 06/16/93  3:09a
Subj: Re: Problem with a cd                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I overheard Jim Sharrer saying to Paul Hammerschmidt something about
Problem with a cd

Hi Jim Sharrer!


 JS> Its dirty.

Thanks Jim... I was kinda sure that's what the problem was. Where did you get
yours cleaned "invasively"???

Thanks,
Paul
... What?!?  DOSSHELL *isn't* supposed to be a joke?
--- GEcho 1.00
 * Origin: Paul's Place BBS - 852-1478 (1:343/136.0)
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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 913
  To: TODD MCNOLDY                             Date: 06/16/93 11:13a
Subj: Looking for cd's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi todd, %10-20 is to much duplaction percent... i suggest you should get
Share Ware Studio II (2) and/or Pier2, they have little or none duplaction
between them.... and they are very asdasdfafasdasdfasssssssasdfasdfsdfs


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From: DANG NGUYEN                            Number: 914
  To: TORSTEN DROSTE                           Date: 06/16/93 10:55a
Subj: Mitsumi Os/2 Driver                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TD>                   totronik Torsten Droste
  >                   Hauptstaetterstr. 35
  >                   DW-7000 Stuttgart 1     (D-70173 Stuttgart after
July,1st
  >                   Germany

TD>                   Phone: [phone]
  >                   Fax:   [phone]
  >                   CIS: 100064,1346
  >                   FIDO: 2:244/40.17

Is there a way I can get the mailing list of the people who order from
you?  I am currently in the process of finding a market for an OS/2
shareware CDROM.
Thank you
Dang
12851 Sungrove
Garden Grove, cA 92640

--- FMail 0.94
 * Origin: The Vending Exchange Orange County Calif.714-530-9471 (1:103/140)
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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 915
  To: DON RIEB                                 Date: 06/16/93  7:06a
Subj: CDROM changer software                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DR>BBS and need somthing that will put files in to a Qeuiee becouse I have 4
  >nodes and 6 disc's run from PonyRom and it would be nice to only alow one
  >file
  >to be copied at a time instead of it doing part of a file then part of the

  >next file and so on, takes to long switching disc's.

 sounds like you could use a copy of EZrom (if you're running WildCat or
any other DOOR.SYS bbs), or SFrom (if you're using spitfire's callers
info files).

 Both romdoors are essentially the same...  You can have up to 100 disks
online, it can be run on nonstandard ports, on any nodes, etc.  You make
a dir for each cdrom disk and copy text listings of any name in (ex
files.bbs or sffiles.bbs).  Just make the main menu listing of disks and
individual cdrom menu of areas, and after editing the areas paths you
should be ready to go.  It also has file tagging (up to 20 files),
internal "All-DSZ supported protocols", and the feature most useful to
you would probably be the lockfile.  Since you can have it read the
descriptions/tag files right off of the hard drive's text listings, the
cdrom is only active when copying to the hard drive before downloads.
You can configure it to make a lockfile that exists only when the drive
is being accessed, and if another node tries to access it while the
lockfile is there, it simply gives the caller "try back in a minute or
two please" message.
 Mike Robinson is the author, and the current versions of each are v1.20

 It can be FREQ'ed (16.8dual) at 1:2601/566 under the name of
SFROM120.ZIP or EZROM120.ZIP.
 The author's board also has the same version for Freq.. I'd tell you
his node # if I could find that little scrap of paper now <grin>.

        Good luck with your drive.   BTW do you have Pier 2 yet?
anything worthwhile for bbs use?
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 * Origin: Tim's BBS * Erie, PA * 814-825-1731 * (1:2601/566)
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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 916
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 06/15/93  7:14a
Subj: MSCDEX PROBLEM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Check Jim; I'm getting good at changeing SETVER.
73's

--- TMail v1.31.5
 * Origin: 24th Street Exchange - A BBS Since 1983 * [phone]
(1:203/52)
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From: BRAD MARSH                             Number: 917
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  3:43p
Subj: Sony Drivers                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Any one have the latest CD drivers for the Sonys

Need some for some friends having problems



... Sit down, you're rocking the boat!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

--- Maximus 2.01wb
 * Origin: 604-946-5815  V.32 (1:153/951)
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From: JIM HUSBAND                            Number: 918
  To: CARLOS AVELLANET                         Date: 06/16/93  8:48p
Subj: MITSUMI QUESTIONS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

|CA>      No it does not. You can only install OS/2 2.1 direct from CD-ROM t|
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+

    Carlos,
    Thanks for the information. I was hoping for a "Yes", but an
accurate answer is almost as good ;-)

                                                            Jim

 * MegaMail 2.10 #0:


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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 919
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/15/93 10:19p
Subj: Various                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy Mike,

13 Jun 93, Mike Shannon writes to Kirk Rawnsley:

 KR>> Could you please give me info on the following titles?
 KR>> -Readers library
 KR>> -Reference library
 KR>> -Shakespear
 KR>> -Electronic Home Library
 KR>> -Languages of the World
 KR>> -Library of the Future #1
 KR>> -World Atlas MPC

 MS> Kirk,

 MS> In the interest of saving space here, give me a call, and I'll run down
 MS> as many as you want, or give me your address, and I can send you one of
 MS> our catalogs with descriptions!

Kirk Rawnsley
5128 Grove Hill Rd. SW
Calgary Alberta
T3E 4G6
          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

--- GoldED 2.40
 * Origin: We are Not Saints, Calgary Alberta [phone] (1:134/26)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: JACK BROWN                             Number: 920
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/16/93  9:39a
Subj: catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please, folks - make certain you address messages to the person/people
you actually want your messages to go to.  Over the past several weeks
people have sent a dozen or more messages to me asking me to send them
a CD-ROM catalog.  I am _NOT_ a CD-ROM vendor and never have been.  I
posted a message or two _to_ vendors asking for catalogs, and evidently
a dozen or more of you have replied to _my_ message likewise asking for
catalogs - but without changing the addressee to reflect the desired
vendor instead of me.  'Nuff said, I hope.


--- WM v2.09/92-0662
 * Origin: NWCS Online + 18 Nodes + 5 Gig + [phone] + (1:105/362)
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From: WADE NORTON                            Number: 921
  To: MIKE PETRO                               Date: 06/16/93  1:39p
Subj: CLIPART CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mike!

10 Jun 93, Mike Petro writes to All:

 MP> Can anyone recommend some GOOD clipart cd's? I am looking for 300 dpi
 MP> or better in pcx format to use in DTP. I have seen several on this
 MP> echo but I am fearful of paying for another CLIPART GOLIATH which had
 MP> about 50% in 75 DPI which i can't use.  Also how much duplication is
 MP> there on the new cd's that are out. If i buy 6 cd's will I just be
 MP> duplicating what I already have? Please send me any information you
 MP> might have and a price list. Good descriptions encourage me to buy
 MP> whereas no descriptions leave me with a lot of questions.

Mike,  I can't add much to your quest.  However, I too was dissapointed with
Clipart Goliath.  I recently purchased Enclyclopedia of Clipart "PCX
Potpourri" and it isn't much better.  To get the 300 DPI it appears we are
going to have to pay for it.

Wade

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From: HOWARD ONEIL                           Number: 922
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/16/93  5:19p
Subj: Trades Wanted                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The following items are for TRADE towards other computer related items.

ITEM 1 : Omega 120,000 Volt Stun Gun  (In Box, Excellent Condition).

        FEATURES : Seperate On/Off Switch for safety.
                   Uses 2-9 Volt Alkaline or Rechargable Batteries.
                   Has Belt Clip and will disable 300 pound person
                   in less than 6 seconds. "To see EXACTLY what
                   this looks like see Batman Returns (the Movie)
                             Not a cheapie, Cost $100.00

ITEM 2 : Akai Integrated Stereo Amp  (Good Condition & works like new).

        FEATURES : Dual Tape inputs, magnetic phono & tuner inputs.
                   Subsonic Filters and has 45 Watts RMS per channel.

                   GREAT FOR A PERSON OFF TO COLLEGE

ITEM 3 : Mitsubshi 1.2 Meg 5 1/4" floppy. (Excellent Condition,
                   Pulled from working system). GRAY

ITEM 4 : VLSI Mini 80286 Motherboard w/512k. (Good condition,
                   No Documentation, w/EMS software).

        FEATURES : Phoenix Bios & expandable to 4 megs on board,
                   using Sipp or Dram.
                   Original costs $100.00

ITEM 5 : DAEWOO 2 head VCS Video Tape recorder with remote.

        FEATURES : Remote programming, Day, Date, Time & Speed.
                   All features programable from remote or unit.
                   Excellent condition.  Cost $189.00

I would like to trade these items individually or together for the following.

Looking for : 1) Working Dot Matrix Printer.  Wide carriage.

              2) 80 Meg MFM Hard Drive (Seagate 4096) to 120 meg.
                 or IDE w/controller, or comparable drive.

              3) VGA Color or Monochrome Monitor. W/ minimum of
                 800 x 600 resolution.

              4) Mitsumi or other Internal or External CD ROM drive.

All items I've listed are in GOOD to EXCELLENT condition and those offered in
trade should be in same and guarenteed against D.O.A. or make cash offers.


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From: DEAN SCOTT                             Number: 923
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/29/93  2:12a
Subj: CD Trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a Shareware Overload CD Rom I would like to trade for a adult
title cd. If anyone is interested leave me feedback.

Dean Scott

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From: ADRIAN PENDELL                         Number: 924
  To: ROGER COLLINS                            Date: 06/16/93  4:32p
Subj: Video..                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

       Thanks for the tip! That is indeed VERY helpful, considering the card
I was going to purchase was the exact card you mentioned ( Diamond Stealth..)
Is it at all possible that your performance problem was with the CD-Rom (
poor access speed, transfer rate, etc.) and not the video? I just can't
imagine having such a fast machine, good video card, and even a semi-decenct
CD-ROM and not being able to run ANY game well enough...anyway, thanks again
for the
tip..

BTW: At the risk of having to move this discussion to a different echo...what
video card would you reccomend?


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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 925
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  7:02a
Subj: CD WinBox                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Damar Enterprises announces the introduction of a NEW
Windows-based Shareware CD-ROM:

               *#############*    Available from better
               #  CD WinBox  #    dealers in this echo!
               *#############*

This is a GREAT addition to folks that already own our first
release, the CD PowerBox.  If you're into Windows - the
WinBox is for you.  Here are the disk's stats:

*    Approximately 6,000 files.
*    Over 30% are TRULY dated 1993!
*    Over 620 MegaBytes of files, icons, articles, and
     bitmaps.
*    40 Files areas each with a multi-line file description
     in the FILES.BBS format.
*    SFFILES.BBS and MASTER.DIR supported as well!
*    Use the true Windows-based Graphical User Interface for
     quick file location and installation!
*    Huge amounts of applications (this disk is not just a
     collection of icons and graphics!)

#    AREA NAME:                    #    AREA NAME:
------------------------------     ----------------------------
1    New & Journals                21   Networking
2    Windows NT                    22   Windows for Workgroups
3    Financial & Investment        23   Communications A-M
4    Printer Utils/Drivers         24   Communications N-Z
5    Games A-M                     25   Icons Galore A-G
6    Games N-Z                     26   Icons Galore H-P
7    Personal Info. Managers       27   Icons Galore Q-Z
8    Multimedia - Video            28   Icon Apps/Utils
9    Multimedia - Sound A-M        29   Screen Savers
10   Multimedia - Sound N-Z        30   Fonts - ATM Type A-M
11   Developers Files              31   Fonts - ATM Type N-Z
12   Visual Basic A-M              32   Fonts - TrueType A-M
13   Visual Basic N-Z              33   Fonts - TrueType N-Z
14   Word for Windows              34   Fonts - Apps/Utils
15   Other Word Processors         35   Educational
16   Graphics - Apps/Utils         36   Spreadsheet Related
17   Graphics - BMP/RLE A-M        37   Database
18   Graphics - BMP/RLE N-Z        38   Apps A-J
19   Graphics - PCX A-M            39   Apps K-S
20   Graphics - PCX N-Z            40   Apps T-Z

       Call your favorite dealer for competitive prices!


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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 926
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/15/93  7:07a
Subj: CD WinBox User Manual                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Damar Enterprises has just released a professionally bound USER MANUAL to its

distributors and dealers.  This USER MANUAL covers all the file descriptions
found on the BRAND NEW CD WinBox.  A complete FILE INDEX allows you quick
reference.  Each chapter covers one area on the disk.  The manual is GREAT
for
the end user or the retailer (the multi-color cover is a real attention
getter
for your customers!)

Contact your favorite dealer to find out how to get the USER MANUAL for the
HOTTEST all shareware WINDOWS CD-ROM, the CD WinBox!

Another great product from the guys at Damar Enterprises...

Voice 510-866-6141
Fax   [phone]
BBS   510-830-5043


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 927
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/16/93  5:54p
Subj: CDROM Drive                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Both Drives Include:  90 Day Warranty, External DIP switches, True 50 pin
  SCSI, 350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, newest ROM
  installed.  Diagnostic/cleaning done by service center.  NO special
  drivers required.  5.25 - Half Height Drive. 64k Buffer and manual.

205-837-5053 -=- Leave Message if not home, it WILL be returned -=-



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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 928
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 06/17/93  2:07p
Subj: 4sale or trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CS> SP> LOOM---CD-ROM game--real voices and cool music
 CS> SP> Make an offer on all or part of items.I might except trade.If
 CS>
 CS> A dealer on this echo offers it for $25 new. I'll give you
 CS> $15 shipped
 CS> any way you like.
 CS>
 CS> --- FreeMail 1.07b
 CS>  * Origin: The Outer-Limits [phone] * HST/V32 *
 CS> (1:2290/70)

   Let me see if I can sell it at a computer show for more.If not,I'll post
you back Sunday.
                                     Scott
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 929
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/16/93  9:55a
Subj: Re: INFO WANTED!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All Dealers <06-13-93 10:24> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> page 406, there's an ad from an outfit called Romulus Entertainment.
BJ>> Among the adult-oriented CDs they're offering is a new product called
BJ>> "The Interactive Adult Movie Almanac". Their 800 number sales line
BJ>> couldn't tell me squat about the disk and, not being a dealer....

OK, got the scoop for you--The almanac is like the Adam Film Guide whereby it
cross references all the adult VIDEO movie with the actresses bio's etc. It
also provides reviews of 700+ adult video's, and acts as an information
source encyclopedia of sorts--This reference will be available on CD-ROM in
windows format for sale around July 31st. The mac version is available now.

Hope this helps,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: NEIL ALLEN                             Number: 930
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/16/93  5:57p
Subj: Low Low CDROM Prices Con                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Doug,

        Could you list your address where to send for CD's and the proper
amount for Shipping & Handling to Canada?
        Do you have any adult Interactive software on cd's?

thanks


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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 931
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/16/93  8:00a
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

June Special:  Low prices on these CD-ROMs!

Shareware Studio Volume II       $26.95 U.S. $35.00 Cdn
Shareware Studio Volume I        $19.95 U.S. $25.00 Cdn
SoundWAV Volume I                $19.95 U.S. $25.00 Cdn

All applicable taxes included. Please add $4 U.S. $5 Cdn S/H
VISA/Mastercard/Cheque/M.O. Accepted. Prices effective until
June 30, 1993.

Contact:  Michellea Sorensen  at  306-789-4654
          6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. (Canada), S4N 4G7



 -- "High quality, fast, friendly service at no extra charge."

 -- "Anyone can match a price, but not just anyone can make
     it a good value!"
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From: REN JUST                               Number: 932
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/16/93  6:42a
Subj: LINUX CD-ROM For Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


LINUX AND INTERNET FILES ON CD-ROM

LINUX, a UNIX operating system workalike now available
on CD-ROM.  Includes GNU C/C++ compiler, X-Windows,
TCP/IP, sound card support and much more.  Only $49.95.

Also CD-ROMs available with source code and applications
from internet servers for DOS, UNIX, Amiga, C and Mac.
Call or write for listing.

To receive your LINUX CD-ROM call and order with your
charge card

or send $49.95 + $3.00 S/H (CA residents add 7.50% tax) to:

Just Computers!
PO Box 751414
Petaluma  CA 94975-1414

Voice 707-769-1648
FAX   [phone]

Internet: [e-mail] OR [e-mail]

Visa and MasterCard gladly accepted.


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 933
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/16/93  5:56p
Subj: CDROM PRICES PART 2                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

15 Jun 93 03:05, Boris Osadciw wrote to All:

 BO> Sherlock Holmes Detective #1
 BO> Sherlock Holmes Detective #3

What happened to Sherlock Holmes #2?  No one seems to carry it.

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From: JERRY MASON                            Number: 934
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/16/93  1:27a
Subj: June cd prices 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike, Can you add my name to your mailing list please Jerry Mason 5111
Belcamp Lane Charlotte, NC 28215


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From: YANGKUN ZHANG                          Number: 935
  To: DANNY TONG                               Date: 06/12/93 10:07a
Subj: The 7th guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DT>PJ> Is it a shareWare cd? No.  But you can buy it for under $50.

Where from?
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From: THE SISTER                             Number: 936
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/16/93 11:26a
Subj: FAO Series                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Could anyone who has the FAO series send me a Catalog. Also if you
could send me a place to Freq'any sample directory Listung for them. I am
most intrested in FAO GOLD. If you are the author of FAO GOld could you
please dispell the rumors that I heard the the FAO Gold disk is 75-85% BBS
ADS, as well has several poor qualtiy photos. I have heard this for another
posted here in the nets. Others have said that he was full of S*#T. Anyone
who can offer any information please doo. I would be most appreciative.


                                        Joannine Gesualdo

... The wages of sin depend on what union you belong to.
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From: ADAM GILBERT                           Number: 937
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/16/93  3:18p
Subj: 4sale or trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Will you take a trade on the Sony CD-ROM drive?  IIs it internal or external?
 It doesn't really matter to me whether it is internal or external, I am just
curious.  I will give you 2 hard drives for it.
Either a Kyocera 42mb IDE and a Kyocera 20mb MFM, or a Kyocera 42mb IDE and a
Seagate 20mb MFM.
Please give me a call at:
BBS: [phone] 24hrs
VOICE: [phone] 9am-10pm

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 938
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/17/93 12:30a
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SP>  Is the Music Shop program on CD? If not I'm interested.

Scott,

Do you mean "MIDI MUSIC SHOP"?  If so, I'm only aware of the CD version.
We have them in stock at $32.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 939
  To: MIKE PETRO                               Date: 06/17/93 12:30a
Subj: CLIPART CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MP>Can anyone recommend some GOOD clipart cd's? I am looking for 300 dpi or
MP>better in pcx format to use in DTP. I have seen several on this echo but

Mike,

There are 3 right now which are very good:  Lee's "PCX POTPOURRI" which
is all 300-600 dpi @ $28, "CLIPART HEAVEN" which is all 300+ dpi @ $29,
and "PUBLIQUE ART" which is ALL 600 dpi @ $36.  Give me a
ring anytime and I'll be glad to set you up with one, or answer any
further questions.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 940
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 06/17/93 12:30a
Subj: Pier II                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JH>Who has the best price on Pier II?
JH>I have seen it advertised for $45.00, Thats too much for a shareware rom.
I

Joe,

You'll always pay a little more for the best.  You just can't get a
Ferrari for the price of a Yugo. 8)

Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 941
  To: TYLER A. WUNDER                          Date: 06/17/93 12:30a
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TAW>     Well, obviously I've changed my mind and realized that the phone
number
TAW>for placing orders as well as making inquiries (I guess I wasn't thinking
at
TAW>in the morning when I sent that one to you). Please disregard the last
messa

Tyler,

Thanks very much for the order.  I have some important info for you.
Give me a call as soon as you can.

Later,
.\\ike    509-457-2892

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 942
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/17/93 12:30a
Subj: NEW CD'S FOR JUNE!!!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 THE NEW CD'S KEEP POURIN' IN AT STARVECTOR!
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 New stuff for June:

 COOKBOOK HEAVEN - 20,000+ recipes, cookbooks, diet programs, etc.....29.00
 DIGITAL DREAMS - 660mb of ORIGINAL adult GIF scans! No BBS ads.......29.00
 HOT PIX 5 - The newest from Windy City. 600+mb GIF's. BBS ready......34.50
 JOKES & PRANKS - Loads of practical jokes, gags, & trick software....19.00
 KODAK PHOTO CD - Photo CD Access software w/ sample photos...........27.50
 LEARNING ADVENTURE - Educational software & games for ages 5 - 12....19.00
 MONSTER MEDIA '93 - 420mb of PURE 93 shareware! No dupes. w/ manual..33.00
 NIGHTWATCH INTERACTIVE - Full-motion adult video. You control plot...65.00
 PIER 2 - Simply the best shareware CD out! See for yourself!.........45.00
 PORKWARE II - Newest adult release w/ 600+mb of great .GIF's.........37.00
 POWERPAK 3.0 - Classic shareware CD with no "surprise" inside........28.00
 PRECISION MAPPING - Like Street Atlas only better! Runs under DOS....88.00
 QRZ HAM RADIO - 3/93 US callsign database w/ 100's of Ham programs...19.00
 SCI-FI - BBS-ready CD w/ Science fiction games, graphics, etc........28.50
 SEEDY ROM MOVIE DISC - Full-motion video adult CD w/ film clips......45.00
 SHAREWARE STUDIO 2 - Brand new disc. No dupes to #1. BBS-ready.......27.00
 SOFTWARE VAULT 2 - 630+mb of ALL 1993 SHAREWARE! Outstanding CD!.....29.00
 SOUND EFFECTS LIBRARY - Loads of fun and interesting sound FX........34.00
 WORLD TRAVELER - Great collection of world photos....................18.00
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Special Offer #1:  Buy any 5 titles above and deduct 5%
 Special Offer #2:  600mb shareware CD or Windows Game CD only $6 w/ purch.
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 943
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/17/93 12:30a
Subj: 600+MB ALL-93 CD IS HERE!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 |            THE ONLY 600+mb ALL-1993 SHAREWARE CD IS HERE!              |
 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+

                And the price? . . . . . . . . . $29.00!

 SOFTWARE VAULT 2 * SOFTWARE VAULT 2 * SOFTWARE VAULT 2 * SOFTWARE VAULT 2

 Finally!  A fully BBS-ready shareware CD packed FULL of ONLY 1993 files!
 Software Vault 2 has arrived, and it DOES DELIVER!  This is one of the
 most exciting shareware CD's to come along in a while, so get 'em while
 they're hot!

 * FILES.BBS in each directory
 * Over 50 different software categories, each w/ separate directory
 * Built-in ROMDOOR software for virtually any BBS system.
 * ALL files dated between 1/1/93 and 5/19/93
 * No duplicaton to release 1
 * Built-in multimedia demo can be modified w/ your company name
 * Features "top hits" section w/ most popular programs for Spring '93

 In stock, ready for immediate delivery.............................$29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: DAN WAGNER                             Number: 944
  To: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                        Date: 06/13/93  2:31p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST.                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for your help, Ive actually only started playing the game now myself.
I find it absoulutely brilliant. I'll tell my friend your advice and
hopefully he'll be able to figure it out.

Regards
Dan Wagner

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From: DAN WAGNER                             Number: 945
  To: JOSH BERRY                               Date: 06/13/93  2:42p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST.                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Josh,
Thanks for the advice. Sorry about the Jerry thing I must've been real tired
to have replaced the first letter of your name with the first letter of your
surname. Anyway thanks again. Ive only started playing the game myself but my
friend is pretty far in it and hopefully he will now be able to clear it.

Regards
Dan Wagner

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From: BOB TROTMAN                            Number: 946
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 06/16/93  7:32p
Subj: 7th Guest...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > In a message of <10 Jun 93  17:22:00>, Adrian Pendell
 > (1:232/39) writes:
 >  >        I have really been wanting to buy this game, and, infact,
 > >        actually had taken it up to the register to buy it when I
 > >        noticed the box said it requires an SVGA monitor w/ 1 meg RAM
 > >        -is this true? If so, it seems a real dissapointment for those
 > >        of us who don't have SVGA cards ( I, personally, can't see a
 > >        damn bit of difference between the two..), and this would, along
 > >        w/ LInks 386, be only the second game i've ever seen that had
 > >        such a requirement...Thanks ahead of time...
 > Sorry I can't answer your question, but it is funny
 > how software makers will call 640x480x256 Super VGA,
 > when, in fact, it is not. They also think that 320x200
 > (MCGA) is VGA, when it is not.

The 7th Guest supports both of these video modes. It also needs a fast
computer like a 386/33/40, at least 512k on fast video board and a CDrom that
can transfer at least 150k per second. 4 megs of ram on the mother board, and
a sound card. This game isn't very demanding now is it?

                                  Bobby


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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 947
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/16/93 10:08p
Subj: CD drive for Sound Blaster Pro          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Does anyone know of a CD drive that has about a 300kb transfer rate
and less than 300ms access time that works for the Sound Blaster Pro. I
bought their upgrade kit last Christmas and I can't stand the slow 150kb
transfer rate. Please give me the specs for each drive and tell me if it
comes with the required drivers.
Thanks in advance.
                                        Josh

        P.S. also include price

        P.P.S. if it helps the box to my dads SBPro says that the only CD
drives that work with it are Creative Labs, Panasonic, and
Matsushita.
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From: DICK WILSON                            Number: 948
  To: WALT LANE                                Date: 06/01/93  2:32p
Subj: Re: FRAUD!                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WL->I have produced a program which will automatically scan your disk produce
a
WL->report telling what files need to be altered with an underscore and
perform
WL->alteration to the files (optional command line).  If any CDROM publishers
w
WL->this program, it is only $10 or trade for a CD title I don't have yet.

WL->Walt Lane - Sysop: The File Shop BBS  1:280/316

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Walt - as a sysop with 13 CD's on-line I could USE this myself.  How
about sending me your address, or your BBS number?

 * OLX 2.1 * Life is uncertain, so eat DESSERT first!


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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 949
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/03/93 10:14p
Subj: Programming CD-ROMs                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware produces the world's largest, best, and best
indexed collections of programmi8ng shareware/PD software in the following
categories. The libraries are $59.50 each, or $195 for everything we make.
Call [phone] (voice) for a brochure or mail EMS; 4505 Buckhurst Ct.;
Olney MD 20832-1830, Fax:[phone].
ASM - 384 files, C/C++ - 914 files, Xbase - 2822 files, ObjectVision - 91
files, Paradox - 434 files, Turbo Pascal - 664 files, Visual Basic - 371
files, VBDOS/PDS/QB - 219 files, Access - 101 files.
All available on CD-ROM or diskettes.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 950
  To: ALL                                      Date: 05/31/93  3:44p
Subj: CD-ROMs for Programmers                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD-ROMs for professional programmers from EMS Professional Shareware. These
are the April 1993 editions, July 1993 updates are $25 each. 384 ASM files,
914 C/C++, 821 AutoCAD, 2822 XBase, 698 Netware, 243 OS/2 (selected), 434
Paradox, 664 Turbo Pascal,  371 Visual Basic, 219 VBDOS/PDS/QB, 637 Windows
Professional. Each library on CD-ROM (with extensive database directories and
search program) is $59.50. Addition libraries on same CD-ROM are $25 each.
Call [phone] (voice) or mail [e-mail], or EMS
Professional Shareware, 4505 Buckhurst Ct., Olney MD 20832-1830
Also CD-ROMs with TrueType fonts, Games, Small business software, home
software, etc.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 951
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/16/93  5:11p
Subj: RULES                                   Refer: NONE
Read: 06/18/93  7:06a                       Private: No

 TH> personally prefer ads that are short & sweet & illustrate a spec
 TH> point - ads that will grab the user's attention.


VERY good advice!
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From: GARY HOFFERMAN                         Number: 952
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/17/93  7:49a
Subj: Cdrom dealers wanted                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello to All,

We are looking for resellers and others who may be interested in marketing
commercial, shareware, and adult CD ROM software. We can offer over 150
titles at the most competitive pricing.

If you would be interested, please contact me at Consolidated CD ROM
215-276-3657 voice or 215-276-3854 fax (24hrs).

Thanks,

gary
===
 * OLX 2.1 TD * When the mind is ready, a teacher appears. - Zen

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From: VERNON MELTON                          Number: 953
  To: JIM HUSBAND                              Date: 06/16/93  3:10p
Subj: Re: FOR TRADE - MAGAZINE RACK           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                     -=> Quoting Jim Husband to All <=-

 JH> I'd like to trade Magazine Rack (1991) for another CD-ROM. I no
Jim,
    I'll offer one (1) Sony Language's CD in trade for your's.  It is a
word by word translator that can act in stand alone mode or as TSR.  It
will translate the following language's.
          French
          German
          Italian
          Spanish
          Dutch
          Japanese (the two major varities)
          Chinese  (Manderin, I think)
          Norwegian
          Danish
          Finnish
          Swedish
          English
Let me know what you think of this offer.
later,
      Vernon Melton

... Some thoughts are best guillotined before actions result.
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 954
  To: DON HANCOCK                              Date: 06/16/93  6:30p
Subj: Roms                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> Personal experience has been that the Soundblaster kits' drives have been
>> the
>> SLOWEST on the market! They have been around 600ms access, tho' the sound

    I don't mean to be argumentative, but I have a Creative Labs CDRom
working next to a Mitsumi, they are both rated the same, but in all ways,
the Creative Labs smokes the mitsumi.

>> $90 for it NEW!) but I'm looking for something better than a Matsushita.

    I also run a Chinon 435, that is the best of the three by far, even
though it is rated the same.


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 955
  To: BRIAN WHEATLEY                           Date: 06/16/93  8:51p
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> Hi, I will buy your tape, for $30. what type of games, would you put on
>> it?

    I have about 10 or so MEGS of games that are little adventures,
adcade style things, and text games.  They are all freeware and all have
adult content.  These are really just a bonus to help fill the tape,
since it is about the same amount of work either way.  I guess I'll
probably through some GIFS on there too, what the heck.
    Anyway, I would like to take the rest of this disscussion to Netmail,
if you have access please reply to:
                                            Eric Bravick
                                            1:377/53
                                            Zero Tolerance BBS

    If not, reply here.  I will need your full mailing address.  To mail
to Canada will probabley cost an extra $5.00 or so.
    Another question I have is what does Canadian law say about this kind
of thing?  Am I going to end up being exterdited five 5 years to Canada
and have to turn big chunks of ice into little ones with a big hammer?

    Anyway, try to go netmail, and we will contnue there.


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From: BEN NATION                             Number: 956
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 06/17/93  8:03a
Subj: nix pix hot pix 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CB> I was under the impression that you only had one disk,
 CB> and that I had bought it.  You said that you were
 CB> disappointed that it wasn't BBS ready and intended to
 CB> return it to your source if I wasn't interested, have
 CB> you decided to obtain several more instead?

 CB> ---
         You did buy my only copy at the time, I just know where to get
copies of HOT PIX 1, to which I can sell it to the public at $75. And yes,
though it has a dir. of descriptions, it's not "FILES.BBS" ready. I was going
to send it back to the source at the point we spoke, but started receiving
calls of interest on the disk, which led me to  the idea that I can provide
the disk for $75, instead of $100 or more dollars that some sources are
asking for. Though I'm NOT a SOURCE for CD's, I can sell HOT PIX 1, cheaper
than most. BTW
you should have disk in hand by the time you receive this.
                                                       Ben

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 957
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/17/93  5:17p
Subj: BB INSERTS...                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

have arrived.  Many thanks generous lady! You can probably guess why I
needed them <chuckle & grin>.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 958
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/17/93 11:49a
Subj: CLIP ART ENCYCLOPEDIA                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Am I right in saying that this is the best of the clip art CDs? If not,
what's better? In any case, I'd like to hear your best price. Thanks.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 959
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/17/93 11:58a
Subj: Florida Lion's Den In                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DC> sell shareware floppy disks.....these guys were selling a disk t
 DC> paid less than a $.25 for at prices from $1.50 to $5.00 per disk


I was wondering about this, too. Also, I've seen a *lot* of registration
requests that include a phrase like "...my be freely distributed at no
charge except for a small distribution fee..." In my experience, the
$1.50 to $5.00 you mention is within those guidelines. It follows then
that if a shareware CD producer has several THOUSAND programs on their
disk, that even at exorbitant prices, the producers (and dealers) are
effectively getting at best (worst?) a few cents per program. I agree, I
don't understand the shareware authors' complaint. I think they shooting
themselves in the foot with this stance.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 960
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/17/93 11:41a
Subj:  INFO WANTED!!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LN> Don't know how long it will take but I will be back with some in


You're a jewel, Lady Lee! Many thanks....
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 961
  To: PAUL JANEL                               Date: 06/17/93 11:47a
Subj: Looking for cd's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PJ> duplaction between them.... and they are very
 PJ> asdasdfafasdasdfasssssssasdfasdfsdfs


Oh, really? I thought they were more fgdvdvcvdvgdvccvvvvvvggcgdvcfdfcf.
<just kidding> (:>
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 962
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/17/93 11:53a
Subj: TOP 5 ADULT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> 3. GIFFY GOLD - Brand new from San Diego comes the first TRUE "R
 MS>   CD designed with the sysop in mind.  Almost 1000 original, bea


FYI: There's very definitely some "X" stuff on this disk; not a lot but
it's there.
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From: PAUL ELLIOTT                           Number: 963
  To: CHARLES HART                             Date: 06/17/93 11:23a
Subj: BBS Ready Sharware CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > In either case, it's gross negligence to include only part of
 > the files
 > required to make the program perform the intended function.

 > How does your disk stack up in this area?


I haven't had a chance to go through the whole disc. Your welcome to download
the ALLFILES from my BBS the filename is SSTUDIO.ZIP you can also freq it.

                                    Paul

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 964
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/17/93  5:50a
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

MB>Terry, the Giffy Gold has not shown up for trade on the Physical Therapy
dis
MB>so it is yours in trade for My Private Collection Vol. II if you are still
MB>intersted.  Please mail USPS priority, and echo back mailing instructions.
MB>will send out the Physical Therapy disc by USPS Priority as soonj as I
recei
MB>mailing instructions by echo.

Terry Woodward
2649 Marathon Lane
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33312

I'll try to get My Private collection off by Saturday. I have to go out
of town on business in about twenty minutes. Sorry.

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * My reality check just bounced.


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From: NILL TOULME                            Number: 965
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/16/93  7:45p
Subj: Re: RULES                               Refer: NONE
Read: 06/20/93  5:19p                       Private: No

Quoting Tim Helton's message of 06-14-93 to Nill Toulme, in pertinent
part:

 TH> -> Tim, what are the rules governing posting of price lists in this
 TH> -> frequency, message length, etc.?
 TH>
 TH> Nothing is etched in stone... Just use your common sense . . .

OK, thanks.

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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 966
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/17/93  9:23p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: [phone]
                      International 314-521-4862
               We have the following specials this week!

Software Vault II    $29.00 JUST Released!  8000+ Files All the latest!
                             Predominantly 1993!  Completely BBS ready
                             and compatible!  Built in CDROM door!


Shareware Studio II  $29.00  JUST RELEASED!  640 Megs of Shareware,
   With another disk $19.95       Advanced front end interfacing.
                                  Files.bbs in each directory and
                                  separately!
                                  Don't miss this opportunity!

CDwinbox             $29.00  The latest from DAMAR enterprises....
                             excellent disk with over 30% 1993 windows
                             files... combine it with the Premium
                             Windows disk below and have the BEST
                             windows collection available!


SwimWare 1993  $29.00  1500+ photos of beautiful women in bikinis
                      and lingerie.  Nothing more than PG-13 but all
                      excellent quality GIF files in 640x480 and
                      1024x768 resolution.  Completely BBS ready!

Games 1993     $25.00  **NEW** 6000 files... Completely BBS ready and
                      most of the games are from Jan/Feb/March 1993.
                      With only the classics being older.

Star Trek/     $25.00 1200 GIF photo's of Star Trek, The Next
Fantasy               Generation, Star Wars,  100+ sound files, Fantasy
                      Creatures, Dungeon's and Dragons, Conan, Star Trek
                      Games.  NEW AND COMPLETLEY BBS READY!

House of       $25.00 Over 200 of the latest shareware games, most
GAMES                 playable from the CDROM.  Excellent menu that
                      breaks the games down into Categories!

Monster Media III          $29.00        Fontmaster II CD Library   $20.00

Mega ROM 2                 $20.00        PC Sig 12                  $22.00
Mega Win/Os2               $20.00        Simtel 20  (April 1993)    $20.00
                                         CICA Windos (April 1993)   $20.00

   FIVE STAR PREMIUM Windows!!!!   $39.00   6000+ of the latest Windows
                                         files available!  Completely
                                         BBS ready, with PCboard style
                                         and Files.bbs descriptions!

   FIVE Star Premium DOS!!!        $39.00   6000+ GREAT DOS files.. ALL 92
                                         and 93 FILES!!! Files.bbs and
                                         PCBOARD file descriptions!

                          $69.00 for the set!
                   Caddies $2.99 with purchase!

*********************************************************************
               All prices in effect thru 6/30/93
   VISA          1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M        MASTERCARD
              ---- 100s of Titles Available ----



 * WCE 1.02/2072 * Is this yours? Your dog left it on my lawn ...


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From: SABINE VAN DEN AUDENAERDE              Number: 967
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/13/93  9:58a
Subj: Is this "service" ???                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Dave!

<CUT a lot!>

 > I'm sorry you didn't get a reply, and I want you to realize
 > that it's not Mike's fault.

But that doesn't explain why he did not react to our FAX-message!
And there's somebody here in the cdrom-echo that is wondering when Mike is
going to send him the promised CD to review.
A certain Mr Jackson, was it not ?!? BTW I write netmail to other dealers
too, and they reply to me the same way ... so ... what is this ? I think Mike
should ask another BBS-system to support him with a pointnumber etc. He won't
believe how much more efficient this is ...

It's very nice of you to take the blame ... ;-)

Anyway, I've already had one very good business-contact with another dealer.
Let's close the issue, after this _break_.

ALL DEALER-PRICELISTS ARE VERY WELCOME AT MY NETMAIL ADRESS AND
WILL BE POSTED IN OUR LOCAL cdrom.b AREA IN BELGIUM.

That's it ...

Greetz,
Sabine

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From: KARLA FLORES                           Number: 968
  To: CHRIS KOPENEC                            Date: 06/17/93  8:27a
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Add me to the list too...
my address is :
K.Flores
1171 Irish Rd.
Neenah, Wi
    54956

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From: KARLA FLORES                           Number: 969
  To: DOUG MILLER                              Date: 06/17/93  8:39a
Subj: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

please add me to your mailing list.  send any catalogs you have. If I'm not
interested in the adult ones...then my husband might be.
Send to:

K. Flores
1171 Irish Rd.
Neenah,Wi
   54956
                       Thank You
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 970
  To: TIMOTHY C. NOVAK                         Date: 06/09/93  7:58p
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'd be happy to send you a brochure on EMS Professional Shareware's CD-ROM
libraries for PC Professionals. They really are in a different class than the
others you are considering, though they do cost a little bit more $59.50+.
Call [phone] (voice) or EMail [e-mail] with your
address to get a brochure. We ahve libraries for ASM, C/C++, Xbase, Paradox,
TPascal, VBasic, QBasic, OS/2, Netware, AutoCAD, TrueType, Access,
Spreadsheets, and more.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 971
  To: RICHARD KRUGER                           Date: 06/09/93  8:03p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have 5 new (old LU002 model) Mitsumi kits for $110 each plus shipping.
E-Mail [e-mail] or Fax: [phone]. Wires and credit
cards are fine.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 972
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/14/93  9:21p
Subj: Mitsumis for $110                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I've got 4 Mitsumi Lu002 (600ms) CD-ROM drive kits for sale. These are not
fancy, but are priced right at $110 each. call voice [phone] or email:
[e-mail]
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 973
  To: CD-R KITS                                Date: 06/14/93  9:24p
Subj: CD-R Kits                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm excited about a new CD-R (CD Rom recorder) kit. The Kit consists of the
Philips CDD-521 recorder, Adaptec 1542c SCSI card, external cable, and
Corel's new XCopy premastering software (incredibly simple to use). Couple
this with $21 blanks and you can produce CD-ROMs at a very attractive price.
The package comes to $4999. If interested, call EMS Professional Shareware,
voice:301-924-3594 or email: [e-mail].
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From: DAVID BAKER                            Number: 974
  To: JOHN CUSTER                              Date: 05/17/93 10:35a
Subj: Chinon 431 Internal With                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JC> DB>The drive reads ISO 9660, I think, or 680 Megs.
 JC> >--- GEcho 1.00/beta

 JC> How Much ?

 JC>  * QMPro 1.02 41-4689 * Hey Rocky!  Watch me pull a rabbit
 JC> outta my hat!


 JC> --- WM v2.09/92-0214
 JC>  * Origin: The Classifieds BBS [415] 665-7918/2475
 JC> (1:125/665)
Price is $200 plus shipping, prepaid, or $225 COD with $25 deposit in
advance.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 975
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 06/16/93 10:34p
Subj: Old Mitsumi's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I've got three unused ones for $110 each. Call EMS, [phone] or
Fax:[phone] or email [e-mail] (Mitsumi 600ms CD-ROM
drives, that is).
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From: ROGER COLLINS                          Number: 976
  To: ADRIAN PENDELL                           Date: 06/18/93  9:05a
Subj: Video..                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->        Thanks for the tip! That is indeed VERY helpful, considering t
-> was going to purchase was the exact card you mentioned ( Diamond Stea
-> it at all possible that your performance problem was with the CD-Rom
-> access speed, transfer rate, etc.) and not the video? I just can't im
-> having such a fast machine, good video card, and even a semi-decenct
-> not being able to run ANY game well enough...anyway, thanks again for
-> tip..

Nope, not a problem with the ROM drive, it was definately the video card
(animation was quick enough, just jumpy cause the card couldn't move
the graphics around quick enough.)

-> BTW: At the risk of having to move this discussion to a different ech
-> video card would you reccomend?

Don't know..still shopping myself.


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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 977
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 06/18/93  1:01a
Subj: Hitachi CDROM drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MB>-> Well what would 12 drives and 3 cards cost?

MB>Seems like.... about 1400 dollars! Lots less than 2 of the 6 pack units,

Well I will be picking up 12 sometime in July....
 ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Porter Consulting Services! #1 in Networks...


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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 978
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 06/19/93 11:56a
Subj: Re: nix pix hot pix 1                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BN> Nix Pix Hot Pix 1, being sold for $75 (new). Limited
 BN> number of disks. Original Hot Pix 1.
 BN> call Voice 904-779-7994 or BBS at 904-777-0778.

 Ben, what CDROM drive, name and model did you run this on? people have
 had different rates of success reading this disk... thanks for the info

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 979
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 06/19/93 12:40p
Subj: Re: nix pix hot pix 1                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CB> 15 Jun 93 18:21, Carlos Benitz wrote to Ben Nation:

 BN>> Nix Pix Hot Pix 1, being sold for $75 (new). Limited
 CB> number of disks.
 BN>> Original Hot Pix 1.  call Voice 904-779-7994 or BBS at 904-777-0778.
 ....
 ....
 Carlos, what successful and unsuccessful drives do you know of that will
 and will NOT read this disk?? thanks for contrbuting to my memory database

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 980
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/19/93 11:45a
Subj: Windows!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*****************************************************************************
************************  CD-ROM International  *****************************
*****************************************************************************

CD PowerBox v1.0 - An excellent collection of shareware designed with the
                 BBS SysOp in mind.  Has both a DOS user interface as well
                 as a Windows GUI.  Released 01/93.  $22.

CD WinBox v1.0 - This is THE BEST Windows shareware disc yet!  Has a true
                 Windows GUI for easy file viewing and manipulation.  Just
                 released (06/93)!  $29.

SPECIAL OFFER FOR FIDONET CUSTOMERS:

        Get both discs for only $45!  Please mention that you saw the ad in
        FidoNet, because these discs are regularly sold for $34 each.

                           * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
CD-ROM International       * Call our BBS for the latest catalog, or   *
[phone] (Orders)    * file request CATALOG from 1:344/79.  The  *
[phone] (Voice)     * catalog has beed updated with new titles  *
[phone] (BBS/Fax)   * and lower prices.                         *
Cash/COD/Credit Cards      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 981
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/20/93 12:11a
Subj: Florida Lion's Den In                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

|LN> they, I suppose--Really never had any real confirmation to             |
|LN> why these 46 authors hate people like me. If I do find out,            |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Well.........some programmers are just not very astute in the business
world.  Being that there are so few......I doubt seriously that they
think they can put out their own ROM.

BTW.....what is the expected release date of BB's successor?
___
 X MegaMail 2.10 #0:To ease your conscience one Tagline is a Blank.

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 982
  To: DAVE JAMES                               Date: 06/18/93  7:13p
Subj: Supplier                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DJ>jvc DISC AMERICA IN TEXAS WAS MY BEST PRICE... WE DID 500 FOR LESS THAN A
BU
  >+++0++0AND A HALF EACH...  Includes Jewel case inserts (you provide) for
  >back+++0++0++0 and and front (manuals)  jewel cases and shrink wrapping...
A
  >+++0blanks for onsie twosie production I get down to $16 bucks locally
(boul
  >to burn in own machine we got got the awesome Phillips drive for under
++0si
  >grand...   My friends at Novell say the prices I got from JVC can'++0t be
be
  >(takes two weeks 'tho...)
  >write me for addresses or to hook you up.

 could you send me the addresses too please? (or post them in a message
to ALL)...  Also include where I can get the blank cds for the Phillips
unit for that $16 price please.

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 983
  To: STERLING PRICE                           Date: 06/19/93 12:32p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-sale or trad               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SP> SS> I have STORM II adult CD-ROM for sale or trade, I would prefer to
SP> SS> trade...        Leave message here if interested...

SP>I have Physical Therapy to trade.  If you are interested, reply via this
ech
SP>or call 501-443-4626 if you need voice verification.

I'm interested, but I don't know anything about this CD..?  Is it all
high-rez stuff...???  Please let me know a little about it if
possible...  Thanks,   Shane
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From: SHAWN DOWNEY                           Number: 984
  To: SYSOP                                    Date: 06/19/93  3:10p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Announcing "DIGITAL DREAMS" Adult CD ROM

Digital Dreams CD ROM Was Produced 06-15-93 And Is Now Available To All CD
ROM Users. The CD ROM Is An Adult Collection Of Images. This CD ROM Is The
Absolutely Finest Collection Of Adult .GIF Images Ever Compiled By Anyone!
Over 1700 (640x480x256) Images. Over 300 DL/GL/FLI Animations. The Latest
Graphic Utilities And More! 2500+ Files In All * OVER 500 MEGABYTES *

Features:

 - 1,700+ Unmodified Original Scans From The MCHENRY Adult BBS. No Painful
   Logos Slapped On Top Of These Quality Images By Irresponsible SysOps.
   Fully Classified And Described Just Like On McHenry. Images Trace McHenry
   Right Up To The Pressing Date Of This CD - Tonnes Of New Images Not Found
   On Any CD ROM Anywhere! HOT HOT HOT Entertainment For Adults!

 - Over 300 Adult Animations Reside In .ZIP Format For BBS Operators, As
   Well As In The RAW .DL, .GL, .FLI Files Ready For Viewing. The Latest Of
   Each Animation Viewer Is Included.

 - Fully SysOp Ready. File Listing Formats In 3 Styles. Support For Anyone
   Using The Standard FILES.BBS Listing. Also Available Is A FILES.DIR For
   TBBS Software. And One More Format For Another Popular Software Package.
   Support For RemoteAccess, QuickBBS, SuperBBS, WildCat!, TBBS, PCBoard And
   More!!!! Every Image Is Listed In The File Listings In Each Directory.

 - Add This CD To Your Adult Collection And You'll Have By Far The Best Set
   Of Adult Images Available To Your Users On Your System! No Annoying ZIP
   Banners Advertising Someone Else's BBS - No Annoying Logos Plastered Over
   The Images - It's Perfect!

 - 0% Duplication, Absolutely Incredible Package. I Personally Own Over 10
   Adult CD ROM's And This One Takes The Cake * BY FAR * Designed By A SysOp
   With The SysOp In Mind.

 - An Absolute Must For The Avid .GIF Collector. No Collection Touches What
   Is On This ROM - It's Incredible!!! Includes All The Popular GIF Viewers
   Such As CSHOW, VPIC, VUIMAGE And A Whole Lot More. Drawing Programs, Image
   Editors, Converters, Etc.

 - Master File Listings Compiled And Included On The CD ROM. Each And Every
   Directory Is Included. This Is A DREAM Come True For SysOps With Adult
   Areas!

To Order This Amazing CD ROM Send A Cheque Or Money Order For $79US Funds To:

 SR Media
 P.O. Box 72138 G.L.P.O
 1600 - 90th Avenue S.W.
 Calgary, Alberta
 T2V 5H9

Sorry, We Don't Currently Accept Credit Cards. Money Order Payments Will Be
Shipped *SAME DAY*. Prices Do Not Include Shipping. We'll Ship However You
Want It Shipped. FedEx or UPS Recommended.

SR Media Information Line: 403-630-1336

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From: SHAWN DOWNEY                           Number: 985
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/19/93  3:10p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Announcing "DIGITAL DREAMS" Adult CD ROM

Digital Dreams CD ROM Was Produced 06-15-93 And Is Now Available To All CD
ROM Users. The CD ROM Is An Adult Collection Of Images. This CD ROM Is The
Absolutely Finest Collection Of Adult .GIF Images Ever Compiled By Anyone!
Over 1700 (640x480x256) Images. Over 300 DL/GL/FLI Animations. The Latest
Graphic Utilities And More! 2500+ Files In All * OVER 500 MEGABYTES *

Features:

 - 1,700+ Unmodified Original Scans From The MCHENRY Adult BBS. No Painful
   Logos Slapped On Top Of These Quality Images By Irresponsible SysOps.
   Fully Classified And Described Just Like On McHenry. Images Trace McHenry
   Right Up To The Pressing Date Of This CD - Tonnes Of New Images Not Found
   On Any CD ROM Anywhere! HOT HOT HOT Entertainment For Adults!

 - Over 300 Adult Animations Reside In .ZIP Format For BBS Operators, As
   Well As In The RAW .DL, .GL, .FLI Files Ready For Viewing. The Latest Of
   Each Animation Viewer Is Included.

 - Fully SysOp Ready. File Listing Formats In 3 Styles. Support For Anyone
   Using The Standard FILES.BBS Listing. Also Available Is A FILES.DIR For
   TBBS Software. And One More Format For Another Popular Software Package.
   Support For RemoteAccess, QuickBBS, SuperBBS, WildCat!, TBBS, PCBoard And
   More!!!! Every Image Is Listed In The File Listings In Each Directory.

 - Add This CD To Your Adult Collection And You'll Have By Far The Best Set
   Of Adult Images Available To Your Users On Your System! No Annoying ZIP
   Banners Advertising Someone Else's BBS - No Annoying Logos Plastered Over
   The Images - It's Perfect!

 - 0% Duplication, Absolutely Incredible Package. I Personally Own Over 10
   Adult CD ROM's And This One Takes The Cake * BY FAR * Designed By A SysOp
   With The SysOp In Mind.

 - An Absolute Must For The Avid .GIF Collector. No Collection Touches What
   Is On This ROM - It's Incredible!!! Includes All The Popular GIF Viewers
   Such As CSHOW, VPIC, VUIMAGE And A Whole Lot More. Drawing Programs, Image
   Editors, Converters, Etc.

 - Master File Listings Compiled And Included On The CD ROM. Each And Every
   Directory Is Included. This Is A DREAM Come True For SysOps With Adult
   Areas!

To Order This Amazing CD ROM Send A Cheque Or Money Order For $79US Funds To:

 SR Media
 P.O. Box 72138 G.L.P.O
 1600 - 90th Avenue S.W.
 Calgary, Alberta
 T2V 5H9

Sorry, We Don't Currently Accept Credit Cards. Money Order Payments Will Be
Shipped *SAME DAY*. Prices Do Not Include Shipping. We'll Ship However You
Want It Shipped. FedEx or UPS Recommended.

SR Media Information Line: 403-630-1336

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 986
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/19/93  7:48p
Subj: Digital Dreams                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The DD CD didn't arrive by today (Saturday). Perhaps it'll show up next week.
I'll post you another message when it gets here. Cheers!

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 987
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/18/93 10:31p
Subj: Adult cd's to swap                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MB> will send out the Physical Therapy disc by USPS Priority as soonj
 MB> as I recei
 MB> mailing instructions by echo.
 TW> I'll try to get My Private collection off by Saturday. I have to
 TW> go out of town on business in about twenty minutes. Sorry.

I got this friday night, on my way out the door for two days.  Will go out
Monday AM.  Remember, this disc is an EXACT duplicate of XXX Extreme, so
don't get it in another trade.  Layterz, and I hope you enjoy it.

 * MKRead v1.01 * If they mention penguins, be afraid.  Very afraid.


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 988
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/19/93 12:28a
Subj: Wiz-Pak CD-Rom                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have one new, unused copy of Wiz-Pak 6 pack from wizardware.  It is
supposed to have over 170 programs, from VGA painting to photos and arcade
games.  This disc will not work on a Mitsumi drive [guess what kind I have!].
 I would like to trade this disc for most any other disc, as long as I can
use it.  If anyone is intersted, please reply here. BTW, the disc is dated
1992.

 * MKRead v1.01 * I saw the light!  It hurt my eyes


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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 989
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/19/93  2:27p
Subj: NEW Corel ARTSHOW 3 CD                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Latest Corel ArtShow 3

     CD with beautifully printed coffee table book

          ArtShow 3 Program (does not need CorelDraw to run) is run from
          Windows and allows searching  & viewing of all 3000 images
          accompanied by on-line MIDI music

          3000 images in CorelDRAW .CDR format (editable in CorelDraw)

          Corel CD-Audio Program- allows you to play your MUSIC CDs in
          your CD-ROM drive.

          Corel ARTVIEW Screen Saver for Windows 3.1

          >> Still Sealed-- BRAND NEW <<

          $25 + UPS

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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 990
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/19/93  2:29p
Subj: Latest CorelDRAW 4.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          CorelDRAW 4.0 - the full package

    New   * 750 fonts in Type 1 and TrueType
          * 18,000 Clip art images
          * Thousands of fractal textures & fills
          * Direct scanning with OCR
          * Trace Business Forms
          * Complete Desktop Publishing functions
               MultiPage Layouts
               Complete Color Separations
          * ANIMATION WITH SOUND
          * Photo retouching with new filters & textures

     Complete: All Disks (3 1/2"),  All Documentation  &  2- CDs
          >>> BLANK REGISTRATION CARD <<<

               List $595  Asking >> $250 <<

               412-761-9090  FAX:[phone]

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From: DANE BEKO                              Number: 991
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/19/93 11:03a
Subj: Trade for a CD-ROM?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

While I don't have the $$ to purchase a CD-ROM drive, I do have two
software packages that I'd like to trade for one.

1. Borland Paradox 3.5, opened but never used.  All original
   disks/manuals.

2. BLAST Professional v10.5, DOS version.  Opened never used. Original
   disks/manuals.

Internal or external, doesn't matter.  Would like the complete kit
though to include adapter and drivers.  Thanks.

 * SLMR 2.1a #1000 * Misspelled?  Impossible. Error correcting modem!
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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 992
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 06/19/93  4:39p
Subj: nix pix hot pix 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════
 BN> You did buy my only copy at the time, I just know where                ▐
 BN> to get copies of HOT PIX 1, to which I can sell it to the public       ▐
 BN> at $75. And yes, though it has a dir. of descriptions, it's not        ▐
═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════
Ben-

Any chance of these getting into the $50 range? If so, Then I'll get one. :)
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From: KAMAL HAFFAR                           Number: 993
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/19/93  8:04a
Subj: My cds order!!!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > As I told you on the phone, I am in the process of
 > clearing this up.  We
 > sent these by Air Mail to your address in Canada, and
 > the package was
 > insured.  I've given all the info to the Post Office,
 > and will get a
 > duplicate shipment off to you as soon as they confirm
 > non-delivery.

Hello Mike, I did finally receive my package two days ago. I am really
impressed with pier2.  Unfortunately though, you have sent me So Much
Shareware II instead of shareware 93.

Kamal

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From: BILL DEERTZ                            Number: 994
  To: BRYAN SPEED                              Date: 06/19/93  8:59a
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Does the Mitsumi $200 dollar drives allow more than one drive to be i
-> If so, and you have a config.sys/Autoexec.bat you can send netmail or
-> here , i would really appreciate it!
-> --- FMail 0.92
->  * Origin: Embedded BBS RA+RIP [phone] (1:124/6505)

Yes, you can run up to two  Mitsumi's on the same interface card.  I
have two and have been running them on a 2 node system for several
months with no problems.  The following are excerpts from my config.sys
and autoexec.bat files:

DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 \DEV\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0
/M:5 /I:5
DEVICE:C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 \DEV\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD002 /P:310 /A:0
/M:5 /I:2

AUTOEXEC.BAT

C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\BIN\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /D:MSCD002 /E /V


Hope this helps....


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From: KEVIN WILLIAMS                         Number: 995
  To: TONY D. BERRY                            Date: 06/19/93  7:21p
Subj: 7th Guest...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I dunno what kind of drive it is, I was hoping someone could tell ME! I have
2 and that is the extra one I got with the deal. Its never been used...No
cables and is 200 bucks asking too much? Make me an offer or call my bbs at
627-2537
The Pit for a quick reply..

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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 996
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 06/19/93  9:26a
Subj: CD drive for Sound Blaster Pro          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Thanks for the information. I'll look in to it the first chance I
get. later...
                                        Josh
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From: MIKE DICKERT                           Number: 997
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93  1:01a
Subj: Question                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  This is probably a stuupid question (although, I've been told the only
stupid questio is the one unasked) but will all these disks I've just read
about in this conference work without a bbs front end/adapter type program?
        I've not gotten into the cd-rom circuit but am interested, so...


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 998
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93  7:14a
Subj: CD Drives                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Both Drives Include:  90 Day Warranty, External DIP switches, True 50 pin
  SCSI, 350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, newest ROM
  installed.  Diagnostic/cleaning done by service center.  NO special
  drivers required.  5.25 - HH Drive. 64k Buffer and manual. MPC Compatible

205-837-5053 -=- Leave Message if not home, it WILL be returned -=-



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From: BEN NATION                             Number: 999
  To: JEFF NEWMAN                              Date: 06/20/93  6:13p
Subj: nix pix hot pix 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

the cd-rom that I use is the mitsumi brand. 350K transfer model.




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From: CARLOS AVELLANET                       Number: 1000
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 06/20/93  7:02p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi questions                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Dave Kalwishky to Carlos Avellanet <=-

 DK> According to the DOCS that come with the German Mitsumi drive you can
 DK> install OS/2 right from the ROM.  The driver has worked great for me.

     We would very much see those docs!  Can you quote the installation
     steps here?

     Also is the German Mitsumi the same as the American counterpart? Is
     it SCSI or AT interface?

     I spent a whole week trying to find a way around it at no avail.

carlos.

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From: CHARLES HART                           Number: 1001
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/20/93 10:15p
Subj: CD COMPARISONS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>Thanks again for the order.  Sorry you were disappointed with the disc.
  >99% of my customers have praised the Pier 2 CD for its overall quality
  >and layout, but I realize that NO shareware CD is perfect in every
  >respect, and therefore cannot reasonably expect to please all of the
  >people all of the time with any given product.  In MY opinion, a few
  >duplicate files, or incomplete .ZIP sets does not make or break ANY CD,
  >and compared to the bulk of what is on the market currently, Pier 2 ranks
  >among the elite in the shareware field.  This is not just my opinion
  >either, as hundreds of MY customers and thousands of Pier users in general
  >continue to use and enjoy the discs.

First, I do not believe I mentioned where I purchased the disk on the
basis that the vendor can clearly not be expected to personally review
every facet of every product - even I think that's a bit much to expect.

<g>

MS>It is extremely difficult for anyone producing a shareware CD to
  >ensure 100% accuracy in the makeup and layout of a disc due to the
  >ungodly number of man hours that are required to produce a CD....

I quite agree that it's a lot of work.  That's why they charge as much
as they do for the disk.  You will note I made no mention of the $6 disk
I ordered, one I found somewhat *more* lacking than Pier 2 but one for
which I felt I received value for the money spent.

MS>Aside from all that Charles, my main concern here is your
  >satisfaction with the order, so if you would like to return the CD
  >for a different title, or titles, simply put it to my attention and
  >I'll be happy to take care of it.

We need to communicate better here - a legitimate complaint about a disk
does *not* indicate dissatisfaction with the vendor of same - at least
in this case it definitely does *not*!

You shipped exactly what I ordered when you said you would and sold me
what I asked for - not what you wanted to sell, which to this day I do
not know because I did not give you time to tell me <g>.

I am more than satisfied - simply making sure that other new buyers know
there *are* imperfections in the process of bringing the contents of a
major BBS to your home machine for less than one percent of the phone
cost to DL all this stuff......

Relax, Ok?

<g>


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1002
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/20/93  9:18a
Subj: CD WINBOX - GET ONE!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS>     FROM THE MAKERS OF CD-POWERBOX . . . . . CD WINBOX 1.0 IS HE


OK, Mike. Send me one. After e-i-g-h-t weeks of CONCENTRATED effort, I'm
about to get the hang of 3.1 (Maybe I'm a slow learner!). If this CD's
half as good as PB, it'll be worth the price. Honk if ya' need address,
VISA #, etc. but you should still have it online.
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 1003
  To: ERIC ENGELMANN                           Date: 06/19/93  1:03p
Subj: Old Mitsumi's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EE> I've got three unused ones for $110 each. Call EMS, [phone] or
EE> Fax:[phone] or email [e-mail] (Mitsumi 600ms
EE> CD-ROM drives, that is).

Hi Eric,
Thanks for the reply, sounds like a pretty good deal, but I have seen them
advertised for $90.00 each.
If you would be willing to sell them for that I would buy three of them...

-Joe
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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 1004
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/19/93  5:54p
Subj: NEC drive for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

..NEC external CDROM CDR36 w/8bit controller...$200..........used

James F. Porter
[phone]
 ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Who said that Interstellar Empires don't exit?


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From: ALAN ORNDORFF                          Number: 1005
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 06/20/93  2:48p
Subj: Re: CD drive for Sound Bl               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EP>The Texel 3029 (280ms access, 300kbs transfer) and the Toshiba 3041 (200ms
  >access, 330kbs transfer) will work on the SBPro.  You can find them in
  >Computer Shopper for prices in the range of $375-$450 and $425-$500,
  >respectively.

Can you expand on this please.  I have several Toshiba 3041 cd rom
drives at work and a sound blaster pro card at home.  The Toshiba is a
true scsi device and the sound blaster pro is a NON scsi host.  do you
mean that you can plug the audio output of the toshiba cd rom drive to
the audio input of the sbpro? or do you mean you can use the sbpro as a
host adapter for the toshiba? thanks.  i'll believe the former, but if
you can tell me how to do the later, it would be appreciated.
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From: BILL SCHNELL                           Number: 1006
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 06/20/93 10:30a
Subj: Mitsumi questions                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Dave!

18 Jun 93 17:10, Dave Kalwishky wrote to Bill Schnell:

 BS>> I've sucessfully installed the 2.1 beta, and anticipate no troubles
 >> with the GA 2.1. You simply edit the config.sys on the 2 boot
 >> disks you make to install the mitsumi driver. Piece of cake.
 >> Check with your local Fernwood distribution site for the latest
 >> drivers. I'm using the Noller Driver from Germany, and it works
 >> flawlessly!

 DK> The german drive quit working on June 15th, is there an updated one out?
 DK> I can't seem to find one anywhere.  I was running the UPDAT4.ZIP file.

You'll have to register it. Well worth the $23.00. Send netmail to
2:224/40.17 for more info. If you use your credit card, they can file attach
them to you.

Bill

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From: ED FORTIN                              Number: 1007
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/20/93 12:00a
Subj: CDROM DRIVE Specials                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >  *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S

 > Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare
 > -$1199.

Are these Canadian or US prices ? Do the prices include all taxes?

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From: NEIL ALLEN                             Number: 1008
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/19/93  5:43p
Subj: Nightwatch Interactive!!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> WOW!!   New > INTERACTIVE < Adult video CD!  Only . . . .
 MS> $65.00
 MS> ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
 MS> Introducing NIGHT WATCH, the first "Interactive" full-length
 MS> adult movie!

 MS> You make the rounds with a beautiful late night security guard
 MS> as you check out the action in her complex.

 MS> QUANTITIES LIMITED . . . . $65.00 while they last. . . . . .

        Hi Mike,  can you tell me if this CD requires more than the
conventional RAM in order to run properly, and does it run fine on a 286?

thanks

___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: TEJ DHAWAN                             Number: 1009
  To: BILL HENDERSON                           Date: 06/19/93 10:31p
Subj: Wanted...7th guest                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

BH>I have a VERY slightly used 7th Guest I'll let go for
BH>$40.00 or will trade for Wing Commander II cdrom.
BH>Interested, leave me a note or call me at 704-399-6555.

If you still have it and will ship it for $40, please ship COD to me...

give me a call for my address at 515-247-5899 weekdays please.

Tej Dhawan
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From: TEJ DHAWAN                             Number: 1010
  To: ALL DEALERS                              Date: 06/19/93 10:38p
Subj: Catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please forward a copy of your general and/or adult catalog, including
all available titles and topics to the following address.  I am over 21
yrs of age.

Thanx in advance

Tej Dhawan
5233 Walnut St
W. Des Moines, IA  50265

PS I am already on CDROM Int'l and Groupware mailing lists - please
don't duplicate that mail.

Tej
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From: TEJ DHAWAN                             Number: 1011
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/19/93 10:40p
Subj: catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Dave,

I bought Night Owl from you a couple of months ago.. what new titles do
you have..?  Could you please Email or Snail Mail me a list?

Tej
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From: TEJ DHAWAN                             Number: 1012
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/19/93 10:41p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Looking for a complete (used or new) 7th Guest package...

It has to be lower than CompUSA's $47.95...

Tej Dhawan
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From: TEJ DHAWAN                             Number: 1013
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/19/93 10:42p
Subj: Speed Cache Plus for sal                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the complete Speed Cache Plus package from Symantec that can not
only cache your CDROM drives but also your hard drives etc... lots of
options, high speed cache with Windows interface built in...


Interested?  Make best offer!

Tej Dhawan
515-247-5899
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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 1014
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/19/93 11:38p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>We have the Digital Dreams adult CD's in stock now.  Last time I talked
MS>to you, you expressed some interest.  Price is $29.  Gimme a call!

Mike,
You have the address and the card number. Go ahead and send it. BTW, I'm
going to be returning "My first time" for credit. I'm going to wait
until they fix the problems with it before trying it again.
Thanks,
Terry

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Things are more like they used to be than they are
now.


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From: PETE CRESSWELL                         Number: 1015
  To: MARC FONTENOT                            Date: 06/18/93  9:11p
Subj: Looking For Cd-Rom Softw                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  MF> ^AMSGID: 1:290/8.0 2c200fa4
  MF> I am looking to start up a bbs in the Houston area in the comming
  MF> weeks, and I am looking for a good "all-purpose" CD-Rom disk.

Watch out for PCSig12.   It sounds good in print, but when you get it you
find out that there's no ASCII index.   They want another $24 for that...Sort
of a BB license fee, I guess.


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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 1016
  To: ED FORTIN                                Date: 06/19/93  8:35p
Subj: ADDITIONAL INFO ON NIGHT                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EF>I thought those with CD roms might be interested in this.
  >Anyone have any comments on this or know how to go about deleting a file
fro
  >a CD_disc?

 you can't delete it.  It's there forever and ever and ever.  If you're
running it on a bbs, and your software is good enough to use
descriptions that are on the hard drive, then just edit the text
description file on the hard drive.  Depending on the bbs software/door,
the caller may not even be able to find it in a search or donwload it if
they know the name, but either way it won't be LISTED
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From: JIM REED                               Number: 1017
  To: JOSH BERRY                               Date: 06/20/93  9:23a
Subj: Mitsumi Audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JB>        If you have a Sound Blaster Pro or better you can look on

Hi Josh;
        Thanks for the info - You have me very close to upgrading my SB
        to a PRO.
                                /JIM/
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From: JIM REED                               Number: 1018
  To: JERE WESSELL                             Date: 06/20/93  9:23a
Subj: Asian Ladies                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TH>-> -> I'm interested in the Asian Ladies CD.  Tell me more about it.
TH>-> ->
TH>-> ->                              Les
TH>-> good overall disk if you like oriental ladies.  Bunch of my older stu
TH>-> before i boight the hp scan jet IIc.  Not my best work.  Files.lst ar
TH>-> Jere, Sysop Nighthawk Adult Graphics

Hi Jere;
        Me thinks you underate yourself a little.  I for one am very
        pleased with AL.
                                /JIM/
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From: JIM REED                               Number: 1019
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 06/20/93  9:25a
Subj: MSCDEX Problem                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

NA>CS->This is a bit out of the Sales area but....Call it customer service..

NA>CS->I have an external Sony CD-ROM that was working fine with DOS6 on a
386D
NA>  ->Then I upgraded to a AMI (motherboard) 486DX2-66 Just normal DOS v6
usin
NA>  ->MSCDEX v2.20 (in dos v6 package) and get "Incorrect DOS version).
Tried
NA>  ->with 3.1 and 4.1 and 5.0 (not all at the same time) with no luck. Any
NA>  ->Suggestions. Thanks

NA>Call MicroSoft for an upgrade to at least v 2.21 on the MSCDEX. -=- Ned

Hi Clint;
        Try this instead.  Go to the c prompt and enter "help setver"
        then follow the instructions.  Easy.
                                /JIM/
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1020
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 06/19/93 11:39a
Subj: Cd-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MJ>Hi Jim, I'm interested in prices/availability on the double speed Texel
  >(SCSI-2) and the same type Toshiba, and would like you latest catalog.
Let
  >know if you have any type of special on the above type drive (double
speed,
  >300K xfer) with a 16-bit SB card.  Thanks in advance.

Sorry, Mark, but I don't sell drives.  I am only in the software end of
the CD-Rom business right now.  I sent you a catalog yesterday.  You
should probably get it before this message. Thanks for your interest.

                                                        Jim...

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From: THOM JENNINGS                          Number: 1021
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/20/93 10:32a
Subj: Clip Art Encyclopedia                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*BJ> Am I right in saying that this is the best of the clip art CDs? If not,*
*BJ> what's better? In any case, I'd like to hear your best price. Thanks.  *
*****************************************************************************

IMHO, the best in clip art CD-Roms is the disk that comes with Corel
Draw.  You can get version 3.0 for $199 anyplace (usually lower) and
the new version 4.0 will probably go for $450 on up.  How much clip
art is on it?  12,000 on version 3.0 and over 18,000 on V4.  That
combined with 200+ truetype fonts makes it a deal and a half
especially when you consider Corel Draw is included free with all that
clip art.  (Or vice versa)

Thom
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From: THOM JENNINGS                          Number: 1022
  To: KEVIN WILLIAMS                           Date: 06/20/93 10:50a
Subj: Toshiba Xm 3301B                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*KW> I just recently aquired on e of the things and want to sell it, It has *
*KW> never been used and has no cable's or packaging. I will take offers on *
*KW> here. Again a TOSHIBA XM3301b Internal CD ROM DRIVE. I will entertain  *
*KW> Trade offers as well                                                   *
*****************************************************************************

Kevin,
This is a terrific drive.  I use one now with the Corel SCSI card.  I
got mine as part of a package deal with Corel Draw.  I don't know what
I'd do with the extra drive but if the price was right I'd be
interested as long as you guarantee against DOA.  Give me a call at
[phone].    Thom
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1023
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/21/93 12:31a
Subj: Special                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

**********************  Mix or Match Specials  ***********************
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Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes         Shareware Gold II
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   Windows Shareware
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       Day Time Express
PC-SIG # 10 or 8          Chicano Datebase        America's Premier
LaserTax On CD            Phoenix # 3             Shareware Explosion
    Mix Or Match any 3 cd for $30. - While Supplies Last !!!
ORDERS ONLY 800-243-0517 / INFORMATION 216-225-3263 / FAX [phone]
***********************************************************************


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: STERLING PRICE                         Number: 1024
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/20/93 10:16p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-sale or trad               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  SS> I'm interested, but I don't know anything about this CD..?  Is it all
 SS> high-rez stuff...???  Please let me know a little about it if
 SS> possible...  Thanks,   Shane

 Hi Shane...OK, here's the lowdown on Physical Therapy:

        About 3,050 GIF files,most 640x480 or better.  There are a few
        320 x 200, but not many.

        19 FLI animations (about 10 1/2 megs)

        98 GL animations (about 40 megs)

        27 DL animations (about 13 megs).

There are also numerous graphics viewing and manipulation utilities on the
disc.  (Oh, BTW,  there are BBS labels on pretty much all of the gifs if
that makes a difference.)  I think this is a pretty good disc and I would
keep it except for one thing...I already have FAO 1, 2, and 3,  and most
everything on this disc I already have.  Anyway,  write back and tell me
what you think.  See you,

Sterling


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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 1025
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93  8:15p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9.0!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: [phone]
        $49.00         International 314-521-4862     $49.00

Don't be the last on your block to get Night Owl 9.0!  The MARKetplace
WILL have this disk before 99.9% of the rest of the world!  If you
snooze you lose in the "who's got the newest shareware on their BBS"
business nowadays... so call The MARKetplace now and reserve your
copy... You'll have your copy of the MOST popular shareware disk in the
world before ANYONE in your area!

Order now at the price below, and receive the NEW Shareware Studio II
for $14.95 and get them both shipped OVERNIGHT EXPRESS for the price of
regular shipping ($5.00)!

If you don't buy from The MARKetplace... you'll be waiting tooooooo
long to get your NEW NIGHT OWL 9.0!

All 1993 files... 670+ megs... over 4700 New files... Updated Search
Engine... just simply the best release yet from one of the best
companies for Shareware CDROMs!

*********************************************************************
   VISA          1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M        MASTERCARD
              ---- 100s of Titles Available ----



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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 1026
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 06/20/93 11:38p
Subj: nix pix hot pix 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*****************************************************************************
 BN> You did buy my only copy at the time, I just know where                *
 BN> to get copies of HOT PIX 1, to which I can sell it to the public       *
 BN> at $75. And yes, though it has a dir. of descriptions, it's not        *
*****************************************************************************

Ben-

Any chance of these getting into the $50 range? If so, Then I'll get one. :)


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1027
  To: TYLER A. WUNDER                          Date: 06/20/93  1:19a
Subj: Me is Mike somebody                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TAW>now, about three days later I realize that my VISA's been just waiting to
be
TAW>declined on me (with a $500 limit, it's been sitting at about $490) and
that
TAW>probably thinks I'm a cheap bastard who likes to order things on expired
TAW>VISA's.
TAW>     To the Mike in question, my apologies.  Give me your phone number
and s
TAW>items again, so that I can pay my debts and try again.

Tyler,

Not a problem.  I'll wait to hear from you.  My voice number is 509-457-2892.
(BTW, I don't think you're cheap at all.  It's happened to me too, more than
once!)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1028
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/20/93  1:19a
Subj: OINK OINK                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bob,

Finally got those Porkware's back in.  Did you still want to review one?
It's been a while, so if you already have one, let me know.  Have one
earmarked for you!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1029
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/20/93  1:19a
Subj: CLIP ART ENCYCLOPEDIA                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>Am I right in saying that this is the best of the clip art CDs? If not,
BJ>what's better? In any case, I'd like to hear your best price. Thanks.

If you're referring to Lee's PCX POTPOURRI, then I would have to agree that
it rates very highly as far as the quality of the images and overall
layout.  We have them at $28.

Talk to ya later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1030
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/20/93  1:19a
Subj: TOP 5 ADULT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>FYI: There's very definitely some "X" stuff on this disk; not a lot but
BJ>it's there.

Yeah I know.  When I got the disc in, I looked at 200 or so, and they all
seemed pretty mild, so I figured OK, a good-looking "R" CD.  Lately I've
seen a few that are more in the "NC-17" range.  (Don't you know "X" is
outdated Bob?)  8)

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1031
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 06/20/93  1:19a
Subj: your ad - info please                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LF>Could you tell me more about the following:
LF>Complete Bookshop.............16.50
LF>Reader's Library..............32.50
LF>Reference Library.............27.50
LF>Desktop Bookshop (New!).......28.50

Lois,

I think I already did in our phone conversation. <g>  Enjoyed talking to
you.  Let me know what the "boss" thinks.

Bye,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1032
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93  1:19a
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 June 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 6/17
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........19.00    Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00
 7th Guest (Unbelievable!).....55.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    MIDI Music Shop...............32.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 1...18.00    Monarch Notes.................64.00
 American Business Phonebk 2...28.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 Amiga AB20....................16.50    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...43.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.50    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.50    Mother of All Clipart (New!)..24.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Audubon's Birds...............27.00    National Business Directory...39.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............27.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Barney Bear School or Space...22.00    National Parks................32.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 4.2.................22.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 5.0.................23.00
 Bible Library.................31.00    Night Owl 6.2.................24.00
 Bibles & Religion.............16.50    Night Owl 7.0.................25.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 8.0.................33.50
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 7/8 2-Pak...........55.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....19.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Business Master...............20.00    North American Fax Book.......49.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 California Collection.........17.00    Original Shareware 1992.......18.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...25.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    Our Solar System..............16.50
 CD PowerBox...................23.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....33.00
 CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC-SIG #10....................27.00
 CD-ROM Grab Bag (4 CD's)......29.00    PC-SIG #12....................28.00
 CD Grab Bag (1 CD)............19.00    PC Gameroom...................28.50
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........24.00    Phoenix 3.0...................19.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Pier 1........................29.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....54.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............45.00
 Clipart Galore................30.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Clipart Goliath...............16.50    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (New!)......24.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........29.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............16.50    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........125.00
 Complete Bookshop.............16.50    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Composer Quest................38.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........34.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency...109.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....79.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....79.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Conan the Cimmerian...........35.00    Publisher's Paradise (New!)...35.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....39.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........29.00    Reader's Library..............31.50
 Crossword Cracker.............24.50    Reference Library.............27.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....38.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...43.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......16.50    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....28.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Desktop Bookshop (New!).......28.50    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 Dictionaries & Languages......16.50    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Shareware Online..............29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1033
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93  1:19a
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 2/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 June 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 6/17
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                                   2 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Overload............16.50
 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Studio 1............21.00
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Shareware Studio 2 (New!).....27.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......28.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Encyclopedia of Sound (New!)..22.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Font Master 2.................28.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 2...........29.50
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Software Vault 1..............25.00
 Front Page News...............26.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....29.00
 Game Arena (New!).............19.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..34.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Sensations..............16.50
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Games 1993 (New!).............25.00    SoundWAV (New!)...............29.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Space Quest IV................25.00
 Global Explorer (New!)........96.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Street Atlas USA..............88.00
 Grolier's Ill. Ency. 2.0......39.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........49.00    Super CD 2 (New!).............29.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......49.00    Super Games For Windows.......18.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...27.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.50
 Hacker Chronicles.............27.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................16.50    Technotools...................16.50
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..32.00
 House of Games................29.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Illustrated Holy Bible........49.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Too Many Typefonts............16.50
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Total Baseball................29.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........19.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    VGA Spectrum 1................17.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    VGA Spectrum 2................25.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    Visions of Saturn (New!)......25.00
 King's Quest V................25.00    Vital Signs...................39.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........27.50    Window Master.................20.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    Windoware.....................16.50
 Learning Adventure (New!).....19.00    Windows 1993..................28.00
 Library of the Future #1......54.50    Windows Shareware Gold........37.00
 Lion's Share..................27.00    Wing Commander II Deluxe......58.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........39.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    WizPak........................17.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    World Atlas MPC...............29.00
 Magnum One Shareware..........29.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Manhole.......................37.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Marketing Master 1992.........19.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World View....................24.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............35.00    World Vision 3-Pak (New!).....47.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    Wrath of the Demon............38.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1034
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93  1:20a
Subj: EROTIC CD'S TRADE FOR $$$               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 June 1993                ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 6/17
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 Animation Fantasies 1.........29.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Animation Fantasies 2.........29.00    Porkware 2 (New!).............37.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Busty Babes...................33.00    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........29.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Exotic Girls (Closeout).......25.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Giffy Gold ("R"-rated)........39.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........59.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................34.50    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................34.50    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................34.50    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............34.50    Storm 2.......................30.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......28.00    Storm 3.......................31.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....65.00    Swimwear & More (New!)........29.00
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).65.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 PC-PIX 1......................30.00    Tropical Girls (Closeout).....25.00
 PC-PIX 2......................30.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 PC-PIX 3......................30.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 PC-PIX 3-Pak..................79.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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 ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ My computer's down. Can someone send it flowers?

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From: WADE NORTON                            Number: 1035
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/19/93  6:02a
Subj: Re: CD WINBOX - GET ONE!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> ATTENTION WINDOWS USERS!  Looking for THE BEST Windows shareware CD?
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> FROM THE MAKERS OF CD-POWERBOX . . . . . CD WINBOX 1.0 IS HERE!

> SPECIAL 2-DISC OFFER:  CD WINBOX + CD POWERBOX . . . (no dupes). . .
> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892

> ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ The magic of Windoze: Turning a 486 into an XT.
> * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR

Mike,

Rather a poor time for your TAG line isn't it.  I would say it is a bit
innapropriate(sp) considering you're TRYING TO SELL a Windows disk.

Wade

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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 1036
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 06/20/93  7:45a
Subj: YOUR AD - INFO PLEASE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Lois; What I'de like to know is REALLY what's in the 4 disc's below.
 > Complete Bookshop.....Reader's Library... Reference Library......
 > Desktop Bookshop (New!)..


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From: ZACHARY ELWYN                          Number: 1037
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93  5:21p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I recently purchased a copy of 7th guest for my computer.

I'm running a 486 33 VESA local bus w/ a cirrus logic 1MB video card, 4MB of
RAM, a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 all connected w/ a Seagate WREN 9 (2.2
Gigabyte) hard drive w/ a Adaptech 1542C SCSI II Controller.  The Demo will
run only in MCGA mode, and the actual program hangs at the command line
after starting the CD Audio section.  Anybody else have a similar problem??

Zachary Elwyn
Sysop, Critics Choice BBS
"The Stealth Sysop"
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From: JERRY MASON                            Number: 1038
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/20/93  8:07p
Subj: Speical intro offer                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris,  How about posting an address.  I will gladly send a SASE for a list
of your CD Roms and prices.
           Thanx,

     Jerry Mason


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From: CHRIS BARRETT                          Number: 1039
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/20/93 11:24a
Subj: Florida Lion's Den In                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Great question, but I feel some of these shareware authors are trying
 > to keep the "Floppy DisK" industry type distribution alive--It used
 > to be a big industry years ago and it is now a dying breed as a
 > result of the volumn of shareware available on CD-ROM--Plus, the
 > authors feel we publisher's benefit more the they, I suppose--Really
 > never had any real confirmation to why these 46 authors hate people
 > like me. If I do find out, I will relay it in this echo for sure !

    By the sounds of this message you are a producer. Just curious, but are
you and all you fellow producers ASP approved? That could explain why these
authors are upset. I can't recall ever seeing a ASP approved sticker on any
of the CDs I have, yet I see them on the 3.5s and 5.25s all the time.

                                                Chris

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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 1040
  To: ROB WILLIAMS                             Date: 06/19/93 10:39p
Subj: Cd-Rom Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                  *****  Quoting Rob Williams to All  *****

 RW> Toshiba CR-ROM drive for sale
 RW> Model XM-3100B
 RW> Internal Unit, no SCSI controller
 RW>
 RW> I have been unable to make this work consistantly with my Amiga, and
 RW> cannot determine if the drive is good, or my setup is messed up.  I did
 RW> see it work on the system of the guy I bought it from.
 RW> $50, no warranty, expressed or written.
 RW> If interested contact:  Rob Williams, [phone]

Rob, is it true SCSI (i.e., 50-pin) or proprietary ?  Any idea of access time
and or xfer rate? MPC or PHOTO-CD?  May be interested depending on the above.
Interested in any trades?  I have a Seagate ST-251-1 42M MFM (5.25" HH, 28ms)
to offer depending on specs.  Thanks in advance.

.\\ark




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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1041
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/20/93 10:48a
Subj: Speical Intro Offer                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BO> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$   ALL NEW  SOFTWARE VAULT II  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 BO>                           Price - $25.00

Boris, COD me one of these discs, please.  Thanx

 * MKRead v1.01 * I used to be sane, but I got better


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1042
  To: NEIL ALLEN                               Date: 06/20/93  7:02p
Subj: Low Low CDROM Prices Con                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 NA>         Could you list your address where to send
 NA> for CD's and the proper
 NA> amount for Shipping & Handling to Canada?

Add $5 shippin by ground for up to 3 CDs.

 NA>         Do you have any adult Interactive software on cd's?

Yes...call my BBS at 615-478-2890 and download ADULT.ZIP.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1043
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 06/20/93  7:05p
Subj: CD WinBox User Manuale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DP> Damar Enterprises has just released a
 DP> professionally bound USER MANUAL to its
 DP> distributors and dealers.  This USER MANUAL covers
 DP> all the file descriptions
 DP> found on the BRAND NEW CD WinBox.  A complete FILE
 DP> INDEX allows you quick

Oh yeah? <g>.  Will I get some when I guy the Winbox for resale from my
distributor?

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1044
  To: MARC FONTENOT                            Date: 06/20/93  7:11p
Subj: Looking For Cd-Rom Softw                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MF> I am looking to start up a bbs in the Houston area
 MF> in the comming weeks,
 MF> and I am looking for a good "all-purpose" CD-Rom
 MF> disk.  I do not want to
 MF> have any adult stuff on the bbs, just good,
 MF> hopefully current files.  If
 MF> anyone has a catalog of prices and maybe a few suggestions, please
 MF> answer on this echo or send a catalog to:
 MF>                               The Liberals NIghtmare BBS
 MF>                               14365 Cornerstone VIllage DR
 MF>                               Apt. 1708
 MF>                               Houston, TX  77014

I can help you there.  The Nightowl 8 is an excellent choice for $26.95.
There is also the new Software Vault 2 for $25.  Pier 1 is also a good one
for $26.95.  They all contain a broad spectrum of shareware including things
like games, utilities, Windows programs, etc.  There are also specialty CDs
out like CD Winbox that is all Windows files, or Games 1993 that is all
games, etc.  These all contain current stuff and are BBS ready.  There is no
adult material on any mentioned.  I have all 3 of the shareware mentioned in
stock as well as many others.  If you'd like to place an order for one, call
us at 800-547-7817.  You can download our catalog from our BBS at
615-478-2890 also.  Look forward to hearing from you.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1045
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 06/20/93  7:19p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

This was an interesting message over on RIME:

22385 ns

Date: 06-17-93 (23:37)              Number: 22385 of 22411 (Refer# NONE)
  To: ALL
From: MICHAEL MATHEWS
Subj: PIER 2 From MARKetplace
Read: (N/A)                         Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Conf: CDROM (67)                 Read Type: GENERAL

Have you paid for the PIER 2 CD-ROM but STILL do not have it?  Read
on...and reply...I have an attorney interested in hearing your side of
the story...

From what I can gather from Mark Abachie, The MARKetplace purchased 80
PIER 2 CD-ROM discs directly from Greg Armenia on 21 May 1993.  40 of
those CD-ROM discs were held and not shipped to The MARKetplace.  Greg
Armenia has been paid for ALL of the discs, but will not ship the
balance of them to The MARKetplace (for reasons unknown to any party
involved).

I purchased the PIER 2 CD-ROM disc from The MARKetplace on 17 May 1993.
It is now 17 June.  I still do not have the disc.  Earlier this week I
spoke with Greg Armenia on the phone and was amazed at how overtly rude
and obnoxious he was.  At this point I am quite sure that I will not be
doing any more business with PIER Software.

What I would like to do is compile a listing of people who are involved
with this incident, talk with you individually, and see what line of
action we can take to remedy the problem.

Your cooperation in this matter would be greatly appreciated.  I am
looking forward to getting this situation resolved quickly and to NEVER
having to deal with PIER again.

cc:     Greg Armenia ->PIER1
        Mark Abachie ->MARKETPLACE
        State Attorney General - New York (via US Mail)
        Buffalo Better Business Bureau (via US Mail)
        Public Message to ALL in CD-ROM and Sysops For Sale
        Public Message to ALL in several Usenet Newsgroups

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1046
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 06/20/93  7:24p
Subj: Pier II                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JH> Just like the last one I bought, 2 weeks later I
 JH> found it for 15 dollars less!
 JH> I remember when Nightowl 8 was advertised for $69.00??
 JH> Well look what it sells for now!

 JH> How about last years Ferrari?

And don't forget that version 6 was going for over $100! <g>  Competition
from others in the authoring business has driven their prices down.

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From: ROBERT LEE                             Number: 1047
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93  3:03p
Subj: Maximus BBS-specific CDRom Door         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you are interested in a CDRom door for your Maximus BBS that really saves
HD space, configuration time, bypasses the need to FB your CD's, allows
users to extract and read zipped files, add a BBS AD stamp to your outgoing
files from your CDRom, and a WHOLE LOT MORE, then...

F'Req CDMXDOR2.ZIP (185k) from 1:232/31 or call New Century BBS
[phone] and download it.  Long distance users have files access on
their first call.  You can also see the CDRom door in action if you call NCB
if you're interested in what it looks like and what it does.

CDMXDOR2.ZIP (185k) @ 1:232/31

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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1048
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 06/20/93  5:14p
Subj: cd-roms                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am very interested in the Hitachi cdr-3500 and I was wondering if you
would consider a logitech hand scanner with 400dpi a fair trade.
Please give me a call at [phone].


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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1049
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 06/20/93  5:20p
Subj: cd roms                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I was wondering if you would consider a Logitech hand scanner a fair
trade for your HitachiCDR-3500.  Please get back to me at (206)-762-0429


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1050
  To: CAM LERCH                                Date: 06/20/93  9:15a
Subj: 4 EXTERNAL CD DRIVES $600               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


CL> Hello.. Would you be willing to sell "1" of these drives? I need
 CL> a old one for my BBS and these sound like what I need.. Can you
 CL> please discrib the detaile
 CL> information about them (Price etc..) please drop me a message..


 Yes !  I'll sell one or as many as I have.   If you are running a
 bbs these are great deal at $130 each.  You will need a TDCIF8
 controller card.  I have them for $60 and they will run up to 4
 of these drives. Call 205-824-2552  or 205-824-4029 if something
 is wrong with the first number.  I'm changing houses and the
 phone co. may leave me stranded for a day or two.

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From: BEN NATION                             Number: 1051
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 06/21/93 11:52a
Subj: nix pix hot pix 1                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JS> Any chance of these getting into the $50 range? If so,
 JS> Then I'll get one. :)
 JS> ---
 JS>  * Origin: *THE CRIB* Freeport,IL >Telepath 14.4
         Sorry the cheapest I can get it is $75, everyone else is selling
them around $100 plus shipping and handling. I can at least save you $25, and
send it for another $3.00, first priority, 2nd day air instead of $10 Fed
Express.
call me voice, 904-779-7994, if you change your mind.
If you'd like a 2nd assurance, send a note to: Carlos Benitz, I just sent him
a copy which he received in good condition.

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From: BEN NATION                             Number: 1052
  To: BILL DEERTZ                              Date: 06/21/93 12:01p
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->  * Origin: Embedded BBS RA+RIP [phone] (1:124/6505)

 BD> Yes, you can run up to two  Mitsumi's on the same interface card.  I
 BD> have two and have been running them on a 2 node system for several

 sorry to but in, but I run 3, each using there own card. How can you run 2
on 1 card. I'd really be interested in learning your technique. At the most,
5 mitsumi's can be ran, if your able to run 2 from 1 card, just maybe 10
could be ran from 5 cards. Are you somehow splicing wires together?

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From: CHRIS FREYER                           Number: 1053
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/17/93 11:35p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>If you are looking for prices on the latest CD-Roms, give us a call or
JL>post your address in this echo.  We'd be glad to get you a catalog in
JL>the mail.  Thanks!

JL>                                                        Jim...
JL>Computer Works
JL>CD-Rom Sales!
JL>[phone] Voice
JL>[phone] BBS

Please send catalog--
Chris Freyer
4701 Secret Harbor Dr N
Jacksonville, FL  32257
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1054
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/22/93  8:45a
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: 4487
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> From what I can gather from Mark Abachie, The MARKetplace purchased 8
-> PIER 2 CD-ROM discs directly from Greg Armenia on 21 May 1993.  40 of
-> those CD-ROM discs were held and not shipped to The MARKetplace.  Gre
-> Armenia has been paid for ALL of the discs, but will not ship the
-> balance of them to The MARKetplace (for reasons unknown to any party
-> involved).

Huh?

Isn't Mark Abb*.* Pier's top distributor?  I know for a fact that Mark
has spent thousands of dollars promoting the Pier series, both in this
echo & in most of the major magazines.... And now he's being screwed?
I don't get it.... Why would a publisher shaft his top distributor?

Shareware CD ROM success recipe:

1.  Create a good product.
2.  Establish effective distribution.
3.  Establish effective distribution.
4.  Establish effective distribution.

Without steps 2-4, a product won't be promoted.  If a product isn't
promoted, the product won't sell.  If the product doesn't sell, nobody
makes money.  If nobody makes money, what's the use?

tim
moderator
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From: JIM REED                               Number: 1055
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/21/93  9:58a
Subj: INFO WANTED!!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ> LN> an information source encyclopedia of sorts--This reference will
BJ> LN> available on CD-ROM in windows format for sale around July 31st.

Hi Lee;
      Only WinDoze Version?
                        /JIM/

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From: STEVE LEU                              Number: 1056
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93 12:10a
Subj: Wanted: Sony CDU-541                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for Sony CDU-541 internal SCSI drives (new or used).  Please
reply
back if you have any for sale.

Steve
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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 1057
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 06/21/93  8:54a
Subj: Re: nix pix hot pix 1                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BN> the cd-rom that I use is the mitsumi brand. 350K transfer model.

 Ben, thanks for the update.

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: VERNON MELTON                          Number: 1058
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/19/93  3:44p
Subj: Re: NEW CD'S FOR JUNE!!!!!!!!           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                    -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> KODAK PHOTO CD - Photo CD Access software w/ sample
photos...........27.50 LEARNING ADVENTURE -
Mike,
I have a Sony CDU7205 CD-Rom Drive and would like to know, if you know, if
this drive Kodak Photo CD compatible.  If it is I will order the above
CD-ROM from you.  Thanks in advance for your help.
Later,
      Vernon Melton

... .....and never, ever cut a deal with a dragon!
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From: DON RIEB                               Number: 1059
  To: KENNETH WATTS                            Date: 06/19/93  3:51p
Subj: Re: CHEAP CDROM DRIVE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KW>     How about a few specs on that drive.  Brand name,seek time,transfer
KW> rate.  Is it mpc compliant? Not necesary but would be nice.  Just let
KW> me know.

Brand Name: Tandy CDR-1000 $149   -  $199 at Radio Sack
Works with all PC's
Transfer Rates:
150ks MODE 1
175ks MODE 2
Seek time:
600ms
MPC NO

This drive is good for anyone that can not afford a expencive 350ms drive.
It will work fin on a BBS but be aware that you have to have one card for
ecach drive (Supplied).

SaveWare
Call Don at 708-657-1160 or log onto the BBS at 708-724-2427
as new or use the Guest pass of Name: CD ROM  Password: CD ROM
If it asks for age or phone number put all 0's.
Sysops with Front door mailers can freq 1:115/724

Download CDROMCAT.ZIP and HARDCAT.ZIP from file base #2.

Sysops freq the best ANSi door out "ANSIGAL*.ZIP"  Ansi gal 1 and 2.

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From: IAN LEVSTEIN                           Number: 1060
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/21/93  4:46a
Subj: Sony 31A & SBPro                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'd like to hook up the audio output of my new Sony 31A to my SoundBlaster
Pro, but it seems that the audio cable connectors are not compatible.  Any
suggestions?


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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 1061
  To: BILL DEERTZ                              Date: 06/21/93 12:59a
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

|BD> Yes, you can run up to two  Mitsumi's on the same interface card.  I   |
|BD> have two and have been running them on a 2 node system for several     |
|BD> months with no problems.  The following are excerpts from my config.sys|
|BD> and autoexec.bat files:                                                |
|BD>                                                                        |
|BD> DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 \DEV\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0  |
|BD> /M:5 /I:5                                                              |
|BD> DEVICE:C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 \DEV\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD002 /P:310 /A:0  |
|BD> /M:5 /I:2                                                              |
|BD>                                                                        |
|BD> AUTOEXEC.BAT                                                           |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Bill

Let me see if I can understand this.....you say you have two Mitsumi
CD-ROM Drives running from one interface card.  Given the IRQ choices,
I take it for granted that you are using the LU002 600ms drives or
worse.  I have this setup in my system that I will be putting online
soon.  The thing that I can't figure is how, in your config.sys, you
are able to assign a different IRQ to each drive, when in fact the
IRQ's are set on the interface card....and you can only use one IRQ
per interface card.  Please explain!

For others interested in this setup.....everything in Bill's
Config.sys and Autoexec.bat does work when you are using two drives
and two interface cards.
___
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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 1062
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 06/21/93  1:05a
Subj: Old Mitsumi's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

|JH> EE> Fax:[phone] or email [e-mail] (Mitsumi 600ms  |
|JH> EE> CD-ROM drives, that is).                                           |
|JH>                                                                        |
|JH> Hi Eric,                                                               |
|JH> Thanks for the reply, sounds like a pretty good deal, but I            |
|JH> have seen them advertised for $90.00 each.                             |
|JH> If you would be willing to sell them for that I would buy three of them|
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
No you haven't......you have seen the 800ms Tandy - Mitsumi CD-Rom
Drives for $90.  I only wish I had waited.....just bought two of this
drive at $130 each.
___
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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 1063
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/21/93  1:09a
Subj: Wiz-Pak CD-Rom                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

|MB> I have one new, unused copy of Wiz-Pak 6 pack from                     |
|MB> wizardware.  It is supposed to have over 170 programs, from            |
|MB> VGA painting to photos and arcade games.  This disc will               |
|MB> not work on a Mitsumi drive [guess what kind I have!].  I              |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Have you tried calling WizardWare?  I saw them at Comdex and have
their fliers around here somewhere if you need the number.  I'm sure
they would trade it.....I guess I am lucky I didn't pick this title up
while there, guess what kind of drives I have.
___
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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 1064
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93  2:55a
Subj: CD-WORLD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                           CD-WORLD
     CD-WORLD              Price list       For on-line orders call
     2650 Wedgefield RD    June  1993       The BBS at 803-481-7149
     Sumter SC 29154                        Voice 803-481-2276
                                            FIDO 1:3647/2
    ==================================================================

                             NEW TITLES

    CD WinBox                                           $30.00
    The CD Winbox is a 600+ meg CD-ROM packed full of Thousands of the
    latest Windows Shareware files!! Promises to be one of the Best
    Windows Shareware CD's out. BBS Ready!!

    CICA Windows Apr 93                                 $22.00
    This CD Rom contains the entire CICA Windows collection from
    Indiana University, Hundreds of Megabytes of Microsoft Windows
    programs including utilities, screen savers, backup and restore
    programs, games, demos for commercial programs, icons and
    bitmaps, source code listings and programming tools. BBS Ready!

    Games 93                                            $29.00
    6,000 files. 500 meg of the Best in shareware games!! Tetris
    clones, Lotto, Casino, Sports, V.G.A. Arcade, Flight simulators
    and best of all, BBS Ready!!!!!!!!!!!

    House of Games                                      $29.00
    EGA, VGA, and SVGA Games. Play the Best of Shareware games off The
    CD. Not BBS Ready!!

    PCX PotPourri, Encyclopedia of Clipart              $30.00
    11,000 Files, 51 Directories, 500 meg, New color clips, 65 Adult
    clips. Keyword Search. BBS Ready!!

    Sci Fi Fantasy                                      $29.00
    All right all you Trekkies and Sci Fi Sysops. This is what you
    have been waiting for!! Star Trek, Star Wars, Fantasy, and D&D.
    1,200 VGA Pics. Over 100 sound files. BBS Ready!!!!!!!!

    Shareware 93                                        $29.00
    5,000 files, 620 meg. This cd contains mostly 1993 dated files.
    BBS Ready!!!!

    Shareware Studio Volume II                          $30.00
    Over 5,000 of the best shareware programs available! User friendly
    interface, 640 meg. A great followup to the very popular Shareware
    Studio Volume I. BBS Ready!!

    Simtel 20 April 93                                  $22.00
    This CD is an excellent addition to any BBS or private collection.
    It contains many Programing utils and many of the programs include
    the source code, Usually in C. Also contains great files to
    enhance your Commercial type programs.. BBS Ready!!!!



    Software Vault Collection II                        $30.00
    635 Meg. Over 1,200 files. Librarian let's you search/creates
    files for Sysops. Excellent Disk. The librarian sytem on this cd
    is an excellent choice for any Sysop. The only reason I did not
    Higly Recommend Collection I is most of you want the latest file
    dates. This one has mostly 93 files. I highly recommend this CD.
    Check it out!!! BBS Ready!!!!!!!!!

    Swim Wear 93                                        $29.00
    1,500 pics of Beautiful Women. V.G.A. Gifs 640x480 to 1024x768. If
    you have been seeking a PG13 cd of Gorgeous Ladies for your BBS
    then this is the one. BBS Ready!!!!!
======================================================================

                          New Adult Titles

    Digital Dreams                                      $30.00
    This CD is perfect for anyone desiring a Great "R" rated adult cd.
    All Gifs are simply nude models posing for your pleasure. No XXX
    pics included. Original Scans, 660 meg, Super VGA, BBS Ready!!

    Dirty Talk                                          $45.00
    A 35 minute full motion video of four gorgeous and seductive
    women! This is a full-motion color video (Not Loopscans) Watch as
    sexy Stephanie takes a seductive lotion bath. Experience the
    arresting side of Kinky Kimberly, More. Minimum System
    requirements are, 386-25, Dos 5.0 or higher, 2 meg of ram, SVGA,
    Mouse and a 500ms or faster CD drive.

    Hot Pix Volume 5                                    $40.00
    Great addition to the Hot Pix series. Directory 1 has general
    shareware files, Mainly pic viewers. The rest of the cd continues
    the Hot Pix tradition of Excellent adult entertainment, Not for
    the weak at heart, BBS Ready!!

    NightWatch "Interactive Adult Movie"                $45.00
    That's right! This is the first interactive full length adult
    movie!! You make the rounds with a Beautiful late night security
    guard as you check out the action in her complex!! This CD
    reguires Microsoft Windows to run!!
=====================================================================

                         CD-WORLD Specials!!

    CD PowerBox and CD WinBox                           $45.00

    Simtel 20 Apr 93 and CICA Windows Apr 93            $40.00

    Shareware Studio Volume I and II                    $45.00

    Software Vault Collection I and II                  $50.00

    My Private Collection I and II                      $75.00

    Storm II and III                                    $65.00
=====================================================================

    Many more titles at these great prices. Call my BBS at the number
    above and download CDWORLD.zip You can also freq this file from
    1:3674/2. Visa, Mastercard, and Discover card accepted. Shipping
    is $4.00 for prepaid or COD orders. CALL NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    David McSpadden CD-WORLD "World's Best Prices!!"


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From: MARC FONTENOT                          Number: 1065
  To: PETE CRESSWELL                           Date: 06/21/93  8:17p
Subj: Re: Looking For Cd-Rom S                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PC>   MF> ^AMSGID: 1:290/8.0 2c200fa4
 PC>   MF> I am looking to start up a bbs in the Houston area in the
 PC>   comming MF> weeks, and I am looking for a good "all-purpose"
 PC>   CD-Rom disk.

 PC> Watch out for PCSig12.   It sounds good in print, but when
 PC> you get it you find out that there's no ASCII index.   They
 PC> want another $24 for that...Sort of a BB license fee, I
 PC> guess.

Thanks Pete!  I have made a deal with a guy in Alabama,  I will buy the
CD-Rom So Much Shareware 2.  It is set up for a Spitfire bbs, and in
fact it is put out buy a Spitfire sysop!





MARC FONTENOT

... Dr. Jack Kevorkien for White House physician!
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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 1066
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 06/21/93 12:54p
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Wonderingwhat happened to your address so I could pay you for the Cream of
the Crop CD.
Or your phone number, if you take Vise/MC.

Vikki

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From: HOWARD ONEIL                           Number: 1067
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/21/93 12:32a
Subj: Lots Of Items For Trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am in desperate need of a 80-100 Meg MFM, RLL or IDE Hard Drive and a Dot
Matrix Printer, Cdrom (Mitshumi Ok) and SVGA Mono or Color Monitor.

I have little cash, so, following is an UPDATE of items I'd TRADE  for them.

ITEM 1 : Omega 120,000 Volt Stun Gun  (One TRADED, 1-remaining).

        FEATURES : Seperate On/Off Switch for safety, using two
                   9 Volt Alkaline or Rechargable Batteries. It will
                   disable a 300 pound person in 6-seconds, has Belt
                   Clip for carry.  "To see EXACTLY what it's like
                   see Batman Returns (the Movie)."  Excellent Cond.

                             Not a cheapie, Cost $100.00

ITEM 2 : Akai Integrated Stereo Amp  (Good Condition & works like new).

        FEATURES : Dual Tape inputs, magnetic phono & tuner inputs,
                   Subsonic Filter and has 45 Watts RMS per channel.

                   GREAT FOR A PERSON OFF TO COLLEGE

ITEM 3 : Mitsubshi 1.2 Meg 5 1/4" floppy. (Excellent Condition,
                   Pulled from working system & stored). GRAY

ITEM 4 : DAEWOO 2 head VHS Video Tape recorder with remote. (10-months).

        FEATURES : Remote programming, Day, Date, Time & Speed.
                   All features programable from remote or unit.
                   Direct Cable compatability or Line recording.
                   Excellent condition.  Cost $189.00

ITEM 5 : MAGNAVOX 2 head VHS Video Tape recorder with remote. (10-months).

        FEATURES : On screen programming, Day, Date, Time & Speed.
                   Direct Cable compatability or Line recording.
                   Very Good condition.  Cost $269.00

I would like to trade these items individually or together for the following.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Looking for : 1) Working Dot Matrix Printer.  Wide carriage wanted.

              2) 80 Meg MFM Hard Drive (Seagate 4096) to 120 meg.,
                 IDE w/controller, or comparable RLL drive.

              3) VGA Mono or Color Monitor, with 800x600 resolution
                 minimum.  Brand unimportant, must work well though.

              4) Mitsumi or other brand CD ROM drive w/controller.

All items I've listed are in VERY GOOD to EXCELLENT condition. Those offered
in trade should be in same and guarenteed against D.O.A.  Please, NO CASH
OFFERS! I can pay some cash in addition to trading the items above for
certain items listed, according to what is offered.


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From: HOWARD ONEIL                           Number: 1068
  To: ERIC ENGELMANN                           Date: 06/21/93 12:35a
Subj: Mitsumis for $110                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi !

I'm interested in getting one of the Mitshumi drives at $110.00 that you
advertized.  Leave an address where I can send a money order.

Oh!  Do these include a controller and if not, do you have any and how much
are they?

Howard


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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 1069
  To: BRYAN SPEED                              Date: 06/20/93 11:25p
Subj: Pier 2 Desc.,RA BBS                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BS>So...after many hours... I have available, for FREQ, a zip file of edited
  >descriptions usable on RA. These are the PcBoard style descriptions with
the
  >file size, and date removed. It imports correctly.

 I bet you had as much fun doing that as I did putting the comma in the
night owls 6 file size when I got that disk.  Then I found out that
there was a utility that does it for me in a couple minutes instead of
my manually doing it in hours.  Also, there is a utility that'll take
the date & size out!  Next time you get a CD, let me know and I'll let
you FREQ the utility that should do all the work for you!
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From: CHRIS YEAGER                           Number: 1070
  To: JIM HUSBAND                              Date: 06/21/93 11:15a
Subj: MITSUMI QUESTIONS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jim Husband wrote in a message to Carlos Avellanet:

|CA>      No it does not. You can only install OS/2 2.1 direct from CD-ROM t|
JH> +---------------------------------------------------------
JH> -----------------+
    To whom concerned:

Incorrect.... I have a batch file for a copy to a HD and install from HD..
real simple editor will change config to look for the directory needed..
write if you need the file .... Personally I like the install with the
fernwood driver much more simplistic.. But very funny watching a install from
a 8mls HD compared to 20 disks for 2.0GS  {About 3mins or less! HAHAHA....}

..Chris {1:203/8055}

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1071
  To: BILL DEERTZ                              Date: 06/21/93  5:50p
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -> Does the Mitsumi $200 dollar drives allow more than one drive to be i
 BD> Yes, you can run up to two  Mitsumi's on the same interface card.

And how, may I ask, do you physically connect 2 mitsumi drives to the same
controller card?

 * MKRead v1.01 * I am Homer of Borg and you will be assiOOOOOOO,
Doughnuts!!!


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1072
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/21/93  5:54p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-sale or trad               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SP> I have Physical Therapy to trade.  If you are interested, reply
 SS> I'm interested, but I don't know anything about this CD..?  Is it

Physical therapy is a very good general mix-up of different rez gifs and
animations.  It IS an exacct duplicate of XXX Extreme, though, so if you have
the latter, it would not be a good choice.  It is a very good disc to add to
a collection otherwise.

 * MKRead v1.01 * I am Popeye of Borg.  You will be askimilgrated.


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From: DON NAST                               Number: 1073
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/21/93 11:24p
Subj: PAS                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Have a friend who is having difficulty getting his Windows audio CD  player
to work with Pro Audio and Windows 3.1....for some reason the MCICDA.DRV
driver supplied with windows does not work....is there another driver from
PAS??
>don<
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From: MIKE MCGUIRE                           Number: 1074
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/21/93  4:22a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On Jun 19 23:38, Terry Woodward of 1:369/14 wrote:

MS>>We have the Digital Dreams adult CD's in stock now.  Last time I
MS>>talked to you, you expressed some interest.  Price is $29.  Gimme
MS>>a call!

I just walked in on this, more info please...Phone #, Payment Options,
Address, etc.....

Mike..........

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From: ADAM GILBERT                           Number: 1075
  To: ERIC ENGELMANN                           Date: 06/22/93 12:33a
Subj: Mitsumis for $110                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Are you taking trades?  If you are I'll give you a 40meg IDE hard drive and a
20mb MFM hard drive.  Both are in perfect working order and have no bad
sectors.
Give me a call if interested.
VOICE: [phone] 9am-10pm
BBS: [phone] 24hrs.

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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 1076
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/21/93  8:00p
Subj: Pier 2????                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

This note is to the customers and prospective customers of The
MARKetplace, who either have pre-ordered the PIER Shareware #2 disk, or
are considering ordering from The MARKetplace!

On Wednesday, May 19, 1993 we sent a check in the amount of $2050.00 to
the Pier Exchange, for an order of 100 of the new Pier #2 CDROM disks +
$50 for shipping over night via UPS red service.  The check was received
by the PIER Exchange on May 20th, 1993 and was paid by our bank on May
21st.

The disks were supposed to be in the Pier Exchange's hands on Friday,
May 21st, however, due to a delay with the manufacturer, the disks did
not make it to the publisher.  On Monday, in the late morning, I phoned
Mr. Greg Armenia and asked him if the disks had come in, and he stated
that they had.  I asked him if they would be shipped that day, and he
stated that they would.

At approximately 5:00pm Eastern time, we received an emergency break in
call through one of our business lines from Mr. Armenia.  He stated that
his "bank had notified him" that our check had not cleared.  Knowing
that this was completely impossible, I informed him that he must be in
fact mistaken.  However, he persisted with his statements that "the last
time this happened, (the bank had notified him of a 'problem' with a
check) that the check had in fact bounced.  Now mind you, we have been
in a business relationship with this gentleman for several months, and
have written SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS of company checks to him... always
PRE PAID for his disks.. and NEVER has he had a problem with our checks.
Nor has ANYONE else for that matter!

However, to stifel this conversation, while on the line with Mr.
Armenia, I had an associate call our bank, and verify that the check had
in fact cleared our bank, meaning that it had been paid to Mr. Armenia's
account.  As suspected, our bank confirmed the fact that he had cashed
the check, and that it had in fact been paid to his bank in full
for $2050.00 on May 21st.

Mr. Armenia still apparently still didn't believe me... therefore, since
it was already after 5:00pm on the East Coast, and we NEEDED the disks
to be shipped that night, I gave him my Social Security number (as one
of the officers of The MARKetplace this is required to receive account
information) and my banks phone number.  I instructed him to call them
and pose as ME... and ask if this particular check had cleared.

After about 10 minutes, he called me back, and stated that the check had
in fact cleared.  I told him that I expected my disks to be shipped that
evening via UPS RED overnight service.  He said, "You'll get your
disks", and hung up the phone.

On Tuesday, May 25, 1993, UPS delivered a box via Overnight service from
the PIER Exchange.  Upon opening the box, I found only 60 of my 100
disks WHICH I PREPAID!  Still being quite upset at having both my
personal honor, and our company's integrity being questioned the
previous evening.... I called Mr. Armenia and stated the following:
"Greg, I assume there was a mistake yesterday, and that I'll have 40
more disks on my doorstep tomorrow.... Right?"

It was at this time that Mr. Armenia stated "NOPE"!  At this time, I
asked why not, and what was his reasoning!  He stated that the disks
were on backorder.  I asked him if he had enough disks to ship me, and
he said that he did.. however, that he had shipped 60% of my order, and
that was all that I was going to get for "a few weeks".  I inquired as
to his reasons for not filling the entire order... and at this time he
told me.. and I quote... "Mark, I know all about your' little scheme"...
I asked him what he was talking about... He said, "I have customers
cancelling their orders, because of your little post card to your
previous customers, allowing them to buy my disk for $39.00"... It
should be noted at this time that Mr. Armenia had been informed previous
to our sending out the cards as to their content, and the "special"
price to our previous customers.  I simply asked him at this time,
"Yeah, so? why aren't you sending my other 40 disks".  He stated that he
didn't want the disk sold this cheap!  (It should also be noted that Mr.
Armenia is selling the disks for $39.00 in the RIME SYSOPS FOR SALE
echo.. AND he is giving free shipping.. making the disks even cheaper
than ours!)  I informed him that I expected my disks immediately, as 60
disks didn't allow me to fulfill my pre orders completely.  He stated
that it would be weeks before I saw the 40 disks, and furthermore that
we would never touch another one of his products again after that.  I
told him that I expected either the disks, or the $800 for the disks
to be refunded immediately, and he stated that he would not send the
money back, and it would be "at least a couple of weeks" before I got
the disks.  Furthermore, he stated, "You won't have your hands in MY
son's cookie jar again".. whatever that is supposed to mean.

SOOOOOO...... we sent 60 of you nice folks who ordered the disks from us
your disks..... The rest of you.. well.. you are the C.O.D.'s and we
have tried to get a few disks from other dealers.  Apparently, the only
dealer who has the disks right now is Mike Shannon at Star Vector.. he
ordered and received an initial shipment of 50 disks.  He agreed to
sell us 10 disks at $45.00 each.. so we can sell them to you for $39.00
in order to fill our orders.  We really appreciated the offer.. but
we'll have to work something else out.

What caused this?   WHO KNOWS!  When will we get either our money back,
or our shipment of disks.. well.. again, who knows.  No one is out any
money other than us.  The Pier Exchange has $800 of our dollars, or 40
of our disks, however you choose to look at it.  Don't worry.. we'll do
everything we can to keep our promises to  you... our VALUED customers.
Unfortunately, this situation is beyond our control.

It's been over 30 days now since he cashed our check... and we are still
waiting.. no disks, no phone call, no letter telling us what's going
on.. no NOTHING..

The MARKetplace!



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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 1077
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/22/93  1:03a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

regarding Nix Pix I, your reply seemed somewhat short. <g>.. What's
wrong with it ? You carry all of the others...


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From: FRANK SPARKMAN                         Number: 1078
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/21/93  8:56p
Subj: RE: NIGHTWATCH INTERACTIVE!!!           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send me your CDROM catalog.
Frank Sparkman
812 W. Clover Rd. #85
Tracy, CA 95376

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From: FRANK SPARKMAN                         Number: 1079
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 06/21/93  9:07p
Subj: RE: Weekly Specials!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send me your latest catalog.
Frank Sparkman
812 W. Clover Rd. #85
Tracy, CA 95376

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From: ROB WILLIAMS                           Number: 1080
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/18/93  5:42p
Subj: CD Rom Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To all of those who called me on the CD Rom, thank you very much, however, it
is sold.  Normally I would return long distance calls, but there were so many
calls, that I just figured it would somewhat costly.  I do have all of your
phone numbers, and if the deal should fall thru (buyer is suppose to be
sending a check in the mail), I will be for sale again.  I will be out of
town, June 21-25.  If upon returning, the check has not arrived, I will
randomly call those who have responded, and the first person who I contact,
will have first crack at the drive.  Thanks again.  l8r!
Rob Williams

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From: DON DEMAERE                            Number: 1081
  To: SHAWN DOWNEY                             Date: 06/21/93  5:50p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Recently in an advertisement about DIGITAL DREAMS you wrote:

 SD> To Order This Amazing CD ROM Send A Cheque Or Money
 SD> Order For $79US Funds To:

 SD>  SR Media
 SD>  P.O. Box 72138 G.L.P.O
 SD>  1600 - 90th Avenue S.W.
 SD>  Calgary, Alberta
 SD>  T2V 5H9

 SD> Sorry, We Don't Currently Accept Credit Cards. Money
 SD> Order Payments Will Be
 SD> Shipped *SAME DAY*. Prices Do Not Include Shipping. We'll Ship However
You

Are you aware that Mike Shannon @ Starvector software offers the same CD for
$29US? That is $50US cheaper than your price. There is no Canadian duty on
data CDs, and even with the $5 nuisance charge assessed by Canada Post, I can
buy 2 CDs, and 2 caddies for less than you charge for 1 CD.

BTW, Mike accepts plastic, is very knowlegable, friendly, and ships same day
(at least for me and several others here in Fort McMurray).

I only mention this because I am looking for a Canadian CD distributor that
desires to compete with the Americans. The only one I have found to date is
Vince Sorensen (sp?) in Regina. Unfortunately, he does not offer anything I
am currently looking for.

Bring your prices down and you won't have to target your ads to the
Americans. There are plenty of Canadians that feel like I do. Besides, at $79
only uninformed Yanks will want your disk.


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1082
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/21/93  8:47a
Subj: Re:  INFO WANTED!!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <06-18-93 19:35> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>>  have the Adam Film World printed ....

BJ>> Didja think to ask 'em if
BJ>> they'd like an objective review? <GGG>

Nah, they are only release "Winners", and not one of their products ever
failed in the market yet--:) Hmmmm, wonder if I will get one :)

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1083
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/21/93  8:54a
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den In               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <06-20-93 00:11> Darin Celino wrote:

DC>> BTW.....what is the expected release date of BB's successor?

BB II, we hope in August, seems all the new disc's won't make it out until
the late summer/fall time--But they are worth waiting for...

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: MATTHEW HUDSON                         Number: 1084
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93  8:18a
Subj: Cd trade...                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


I will trade one of the following for either CICA Windows (Apr 93) or
Simtel 20 (Apr 93)...

Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective Vol I
World Atlas Ver 3.2.1
Ultima VI & Wing Commander.

All the docs are included...

LtF,

Matthew Hudson @ 1:18/14.4

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From: SABINE VAN DEN AUDENAERDE              Number: 1085
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/16/93  9:28a
Subj: Is this "service" ???                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Lee!

 > SV>> for a package deal on Pier1+2 & Night Owls 8 ... and maybe Busty
 > SV>> Babes ... I need to know all extra costs .....

 > I am the publisher of Busty Babes and I know there is a

Yes, I know ... And you are female as well? ... me too :)

 > company called Bestware, that has some left--They are
 > located in Belgium. This disc is out of print now because
 > of multiple lawsuits, so get one while you can because they
 > are tough to find and the prices are going up on them
 > because of there value now--

Haven't heard of Bestware yet! Zipcode & address ???
I rushed my order to Mahmut Kursun in Germany last sunday ...
I hope BB2 will we released very soon! Those CDROMS are *very* popular on
Belgian BBS's ! Can't understand why ;)))))))))

 > Good Luck,

Thanks! I also ordered The Encyclopedia of Clipart (one of your
publications!), from Mark Abbacchi! :) Will the picturebook be sold
seperately ?  BTW If you ever want one of your CDROM's reviewed in our
Belgian CDROM.B area, just drop me a line ;)

What other CDROM's did you publish or planning to?

 > -=*>Lee<*=-

Greetz,
Sabine

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From: MAX HILL                               Number: 1086
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/21/93  9:08p
Subj: WHAT'S MISSING                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                          BIG SKY ROM

          What you won't find on the "downloaders" ROM


 (a) 20 to 45 Mb of DEMO programs
 (b) Printer drivers dating from the stone age
 (c) BBS doors & BBS third party utilities
 (d) ICO's not compressed into 20k file archives
 (e) A dir with MEGABYTES of assembly code
 (f) Files not compressed with the new 204g zip(exe & etc excluded)
 (g) Archives that have not been scanned for virus
 (h) The same file unless the applications are different
 (i) Magazine & journals of why someone bought blah blah program
 (j) Copyrighted scans of commercial domain ie ,Disney,Batman etc.
 (k) Files that have not been downloaded at least 900 times in a
 15 month period.
 (l) A root directory so complicated you couldn't install it on the
 test drive of QMODEM.
 (m) Archives without fileID.diz
 (n) Video driver unless they're hard to get ie, out of country or
 defunct or upgraded.

            PRICE.............$48.00 THE DOWNLOADERS ROM
            VOICE 1-406-586-8344  FAX [phone]
         VISA         MASTERCARD     COD  COMPANY CHECK
                We'll pay the shipping UPS blue
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From: DOUG STRIEFLER                         Number: 1087
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93  8:16p
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone know of any good deals on cd rom burners

preferably the Phillips model

                    Thanks   Doug


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1088
  To: MIKE DICKERT                             Date: 06/21/93 12:22p
Subj: Question                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MD> just read about in this conference work without a bbs front end/
 MD> type program?


I'm not sure what you mean by either "work" or "bbs front end/adapter".
Not knowing how much you know about CDs in general, here's a simplistic
answer to your query: If you have  a version of MSCDEX (the Microsoft
driver that makes a CD drive look like a networked HDD) that's
compatible with the rest of your system (i.e. DOS, Windows), and you
have the correct driver software (from either the CD drive's manf. or
elsewhere like Corel), then you can access the CD drive without any
other "front ends" or "adapters".  That is, you may consider the CD
drive to be like a giant floppy or a very slow HDD. Depending on the
contents of the CD-ROM itself, additional software (like a GIF viewer or
PKUNZIP) may be necessary to make things "work". Your turn...
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 1089
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93 11:40p
Subj: Encarta                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I've got a slightly used copy of Encarta (without registration card) for sale
for $170. If interested, call voice [phone].
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From: JIM SHARRER                            Number: 1090
  To: PAUL HAMMERSCHMIDT                       Date: 06/21/93 12:44p
Subj: Re: problem with a cd                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Thanks Jim... I was kinda sure that's what the problem was. Where did
-> you get yours cleaned "invasively"???

I did it.  Wasn't too hard really...just took a small air compressor to
it, and then cleaned the 'lens' of the laser.  It's worked fine ever
since.  Good luck with it.

...Jim...


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1091
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 06/21/93  5:25p
Subj: sellin' some Roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Another "cleaning out some of the stuff from my apartment so that I can
walk around without stepping on it" sale.

CDRoms for sale:

       CICA Windows (Dec)           $10.00
       US History                   $15.00
       Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00
       Battle Chess (not ehhanced)  $ 5.00
       Wing Commander I complete    $10.00
       Time Tables of History S+I   $15.00
       Ultima 1-6                   $20.00
       Toolworks game pack 1        $10.00
       Sherlock Holmes 1            $15.00
       Simtel 20 MSDos (Dec)        $10.00
       Masterpiece Library          $25.00
       Family Doctor                $25.00
       Greatest Books 150           $20.00
       NASA Voyager Image data      $10.00 /ea.
         (there are 12 of these, 3 for each planet voyager 1 and 2
          visited, 0% duplication of data between roms, over 7 GIG
          of image data, comes with disk containing software nedded
          to view images, which are in some strange NASA format, will
          sell set for $85)
       Garbo CD (MSDos/Mac)         $15.00
       Animals                      $20.00

Reply here or Netmail, whichever you prefer...


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1092
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 06/21/93  8:50p
Subj: $130 CD ROM DRIVES                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



  Hitachi cd rom drives $130 each or...

  4 used Hitachi  internal  3500  drives  with  an  external  case,
  controller  card,  cables,  caddies,  screws,  drivers,  30   day
  warranty,  INCLUDING shipping in the US via  US  mail  AND  c.o.d
  charges   ...   ONLY     $600    total.      Call    205-824-2552

  Power supplies are available for $25,
  External cable is available for $30,
  2 nd day shipping is available for $25.
  Cream  of  the  Crop  Shareware  with  this   package   for   $25
  ...and/or other popular cd titles.

  This special  ends  July  1st  or  whenever  supplies  are  gone.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1093
  To: VIKKI CLAYTON                            Date: 06/21/93  8:37p
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


VC> Wonderingwhat happened to your address so I could pay you for
 VC> the Cream of the Crop CD.
 VC> Or your phone number, if you take Vise/MC.

                               Terry Blount
                           187 S. Wintzell Ave.
                         Bayou La Batre, Al. 36509

 Sorry I don't take plastic.  I ship US Mail C.O.D. and they will
 notify you and give you 10 days to pick it up. My voice # is
 205-824-2552

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1094
  To: MAX HILL                                 Date: 06/23/93  6:46a
Subj: WHAT'S MISSING                          Refer: 4528
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->                           BIG SKY ROM
->
->           What you won't find on the "downloaders" ROM

Good for you <g>... Sounds like a great CD.

tim
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From: ROBBIE WILKES                          Number: 1095
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/22/93 12:27p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>We have the Digital Dreams adult CD's in stock now.  Last time I talked
MS>to you, you expressed some interest.  Price is $29.  Gimme a call!

Hey Mike,

Have heard good things about this CD, but don't remember the details.
Can you provide a little more information, as well as a total amount to
be pre-payed (incl. shipping, etc), and your address.  May be very
interested in taking one off of your hands.

Thanks,

Robbie Wilkes
[phone] after 6:00pm EST

... CP [IR] * Do not attempt to traverse a chasm in two leaps.


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From: TONY D. BERRY                          Number: 1096
  To: KEVIN WILLIAMS                           Date: 06/22/93  3:30a
Subj: 7th Guest...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KW> I dunno what kind of drive it is, I was hoping someone could
KW> tell ME! I have 2 and that is the extra one I got with the deal.

What kind of drive is what? Please feel free to use the quote feature next
time as I have from 10-12 messages a day from this echo and cannot track the
topic of every message, sorry!

KW> Make me an offer or call my bbs at 627-2537
KW> The Pit for a quick reply..

Well, I am not in your state (which I am assuming is WA) and I really don't
know the area code (maybe 206?) but don't want to take a chance waking somone
up in the middle of the night, when I do my calling.

Please feel free to call me voice at [phone] or my BBS at (501)
521-5276, 14400 v.32bis, 2+GB, 24 hours.

Tony D. Berry

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From: RICHARD VONZEL                         Number: 1097
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 06/21/93  9:15p
Subj: RE: OLD MITSUMI'S                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JH> Does anyone have any of the old 680ms Mitsumi's they want to
 JH> get rid of? I need three of them..


   I have 2 internal of them for sale, 175.00 each.. You can netmail me
   at 1:282/27.


... Oh never mind!
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From: RICHARD VONZEL                         Number: 1098
  To: CHARLES HART                             Date: 06/21/93  9:15p
Subj: RE: CD COMPARISONS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CH> Now, how about indicating the situation where the CD fails to
 CH> have all the files required to make a program useful on it?
 CH> Take Pier 2, as a classic example that I have and can relate a
 CH> sad experience from:

 CH>   COVIS2.ZIP     244202  11-19-92  Covis 2 of 2

 CH> Looks interesting, if you are into the Mathematics area -
 CH> right?  Now try to find Disk *1* of 2.  It's not there,
 CH> anywhere on the CD that I can find.  There are other examples,
 CH> but I think you get my point:

 CH> A product not done well should not be done at all, period!
 CH> Pier 2 is demonstrably not done well and someone should audit
 CH> the disk for these failures instead of praising the disk to the
 CH> high heavens.

 CH> Thanks for letting me get my 2 cents in......


  Thank you for your 2 cent's worth, you saved me 45.00. I was just
  about to buy that disk, I'm gald you foud that it's not a good disk..
  Sorry you wasted your money on it though...


RICHARD VONZEL

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From: DON RIEB                               Number: 1099
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 06/20/93  4:36a
Subj: Re: CDROM changer software              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TK>         Good luck with your drive.   BTW do you have Pier 2 yet?
TK> anything worthwhile for bbs use?

Thanks for the information on that Ezrom, it looks like it will work for me.

I have Pier 1, but I keep all the cd's current.  I will check Pier 2 out
and if it is then I will order some.

I have seen a lot of the sysops getting the Monster disk (2 disk set) and
the Shareware Extravaganza (4 disk set) for there BBS's as it has no
duplicate files or duplicate file bases.   Each disk has different file
bases so if you have 2 or 4 cd rom drives online it comes out realy optimized
in space, so you don't wast any with duplicates.  Also then you have a
realy large amount of file bases that are not skimpy in size.  Download
CDROMCAT.ZIP from the SaveWare Computer Shopping BBS at 708-724-2427 or
FREQ it from 1:115/724.

Thanks again for your help!!

** Don Rieb **
President of SaveWare

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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1100
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 06/21/93  7:59p
Subj: Hitachi 3500 internal                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Matt I am very interested in the Hitachi cd-rom drive and was wondering
if you would take $80 plus s/h or trade for a logitech hand scanner.
If we do deal I wouold need some help on finding a SCSI con. for the
critter.  Thanks chad [phone] voice


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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1101
  To: KEVIN WILLIAMS                           Date: 06/21/93  8:02p
Subj: Toshiba XM 3301b                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I would like to  know some details about this cd rom drive.
    speed, size, come with SCSI con., price you are looking for etc.
Please call me at home [phone]


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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1102
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/21/93  8:16p
Subj: trade for cd-rom                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a LOGITECH HANDSCANNER that I would liketo trade for a cd-rom
drive (500+ms) or partial trade plus$ on a faster (350+ms) drive.
Please leave a message or call me at home at [phone]


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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 1103
  To: HOWARD ONEIL                             Date: 06/22/93  8:34p
Subj: Re: Lots Of Items For Trade             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 HO> I am in desperate need of a 80-100 Meg MFM, RLL or IDE Hard Drive

   I sell 120 Meg IDE HDs for $199 and 89 Meg IDE HDs for $179.If you are
 interested please reply.
                                Scott Petersen


... My other computer is a VAX.
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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 1104
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 06/22/93 10:57p
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

|BN>  sorry to but in, but I run 3, each using there own card.              |
|BN> How can you run 2 on 1 card. I'd really be interested in               |
|BN> learning your technique. At the most, 5 mitsumi's can be               |
|BN> ran, if your able to run 2 from 1 card, just maybe 10 could            |
|BN> be ran from 5 cards. Are you somehow splicing wires                    |
|BN> together?                                                              |
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Ben

If you read his config strings it is obvious that he is using two
cards because he is using two different IRQ's.  Speaking of
IRQ's.....which Mitsumi drives are you running?  I have two LU002's in
one system and a LU005 in another.....seems the eight-bit cards of the
LU002's limit the number that can be installed.....becuase they only
allow IRQ's 2, 3, and 5 to be addressed.....and for most of us IRQ 2
is redirected to IRQ 9.....can IRQ 2 be used????
___
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 1105
  To: HOWARD ONEIL                             Date: 06/21/93 11:13a
Subj: Mitsumis for $110                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 HO> Hi !

 HO> I'm interested in getting one of the Mitshumi drives at
 HO> $110.00 that you advertized.  Leave an address where I can
 HO> send a money order.

 HO> Oh!  Do these include a controller and if not, do you have
 HO> any and how much are they?
Send to EMS Professional Shareware, 4505 Buckhurst Ct., Olney MD 20832-1830
(we can also take credit cards by phone at voice:[phone].) The kits
includes a controller, but we only have two left, so I can't guarantee we'll
have one if you wait even a day. These are a closeout (no longer made) and I
can't get more.
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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 1106
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 06/22/93 12:49p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Haven't heard back from you about my CD for the game that didn't work.
Please reply.

Vikki

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 1107
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93  1:45a
Subj: HELP... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM, which I can not load the driver for now that I
have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER installed, it stilkl
gives me the "incorrect DOS version" error.  Anyone have any ideas???
                      Any info. will be GREATLY appreciated!  Shane

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 1108
  To: THE GUY WITH SO,STAREWARE                Date: 06/22/93  2:41a
Subj: I lost your name...sorry                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To who ever offered me the So Much Stareware in trade for the Storm II
CD-ROM, please get back to me.  I have decided to agree on the trade,
however I have lost your name and address <sorry>...  If this person
receives this message please respond...
                   Shane Snyder
                   286 Main St.  Apt #3
                   Greenville, PA  16125    (412)-588-9316
    ps.  I will ship as soon as you confirm, and leave me your address
                                           THANKS!!!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1109
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/22/93 12:03p
Subj: Cd-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JL> should probably get it before this message. Thanks for your inte


Heresy! Heresy! To say, much less THINK that snail mail can outrun FIDO!
You are hereby sentenced to listen to a CD (gotta stay on topic) of the
mystic Gregorian chant: Owa Tagu Siam until you're repentent. (Film at
11:00.)  (:>
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1110
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/22/93 12:10p
Subj: Me is Mike somebody                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS>   SLMR 2.1a   If it's British, it leaks.


We could have hours of fun with this! BTW: Throw in one of your $6
shareware CDs with the PCX Potpourri package.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1111
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/22/93 11:42a
Subj: OINK OINK                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> Finally got those Porkware's back in.  Did you still want to rev


Nope...don't have one. If you're still willing to "take a flyer", I am.
Send it along with a copy of Lee's PCX Potpourri.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1112
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/22/93 11:43a
Subj: TOP 5 ADULT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> seen a few that are more in the "NC-17" range.  (Don't you know
 MS> outdated Bob?)  8)


I haven't been out on a date in so long I can't recall!  "NC-17" sounds
like something you'd put on athlete's foot. As an "adult" CD, I didn't
find GG very appealing, but then one man's treat...
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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 1113
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/21/93 10:57p
Subj: Looking for cd-rom softw                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi, does Night OWl 8 have a virus on it (i remeber some one talking about it
eariler, and i'm not sure if it is night owl)? Thanks


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From: BLAKE BARR                             Number: 1114
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93 12:12p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!
        Does anyone out there have a used (Fairly new) cd-rom drive they want
to sell? I dont really care what brand, as long as it works without hassle.
It will be used on a bbs. Preferably External, but Interal will do. Dont
want to spend much. Already have one drive myself.

                                                        ßlake
                                                        Fire & Ice BBS!
                                                        (817)-698-6810

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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 1115
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/24/93  9:10a
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy Mike,

What exactly is "Dictionaries and Languages"?  Does it include a
translater program?

Also, do you have access to National Lampoon's "rude chess"?

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: ROB WILLIAMS                           Number: 1116
  To: CAM LERCH                                Date: 06/20/93 10:46a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sorry, it's sold.
Rob Williams

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From: BOB SPILLERS                           Number: 1117
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93  8:17p
Subj: Which Is Best?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

What are the advantages/disadvantages of a caddy/caddyless drive. I am
about two more questions from purchasing a CD ROM and this is one of
them. I have learned a lot just monitoring this echo and Ryan Denke also
gave me some very good info.  ITKU

                                        RwS____


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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 1118
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93  9:14a
Subj: Digital Dreams Review                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ok, folks in the past have indicated they liked reviews, so I have one
for ya.

I just got three disks, I will give a review on one of them now, and the
other two when I get a chance :-)

Digital Dreams Price $28 to $50:
I got this CD in the mail yesterday, and it was put together nicely. It
has discreet images, and a discreet label on the disk and the jewel case.
It looks as if there was hundreds of files in one big pot, then just
distributed into several sub directories. I couldn't really see any rime or
reason.  All the scans are tasteful, and would work on almost any BBS.
I do have some criticism with the scans though. The docs that came with it,
say that most images was scanned at 800x600 or 1024x768.  They could have
been scanned at that and reduced, some are that size, but the quality
is bad.  Maybe I shouldn't say bad, but sure is not as good as all the
other scans I have seen.  It looks as though the scans was done on a
cheap scanner, or the scans came from a scan of a magazine.  There are
tiny lines through out all the pictures, and the quality of the pictures
are generally average to poor.  I have a Nec 4fg, and I know good pictures
:-)  The beauty of the women, are from average to good looking.  I wouldn't
say any of them are great, nor would I say any of them are bad looking.

                  (( JT's Rating on a scale of 1 to 5: ))
"production" is the way the disk is put together, organized, including
             documentation, ect.
"price" is if the price is reasonable for what you get.
"Quality" in files, is how new the programs are, how many dupes, and general
          quality in the files.  In Gifs, it is how the pictures look in
          general, and the quality of the subject matter.
"Overall" Average of the above ratings.

Production: 4
Price:      4
Quality:    2
Overall:    3.3    on a scale of 1 (BAD!) to 5 (GREAT!)




Let me know if you like this type of review. I will try to keep them
constant.  I don't work for a CD company, and I don't sell CD's (unless
I'm trading with someone :-))  I'm just a sysop with several years
experience.


 * JTEDIT 1.0 * If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny.


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1119
  To: ED FORTIN                                Date: 06/23/93  2:00a
Subj: Re: CDROM DRIVE Specials                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >>  *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S

 >> Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare
 >> -$1199.

>>    Are these Canadian or US prices ? Do the prices include all
>>    taxes?

These are all US prices and the only thing not in the price is the
shipping.

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1120
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/23/93  2:00a
Subj: Re: Speical Intro Offer                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 BO>> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$   ALL NEW  SOFTWARE VAULT II  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 BO>>                           Price - $25.00

>>    Boris, COD me one of these discs, please.  Thanx

On it's way.....enjoy !!!

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1121
  To: JERRY MASON                              Date: 06/23/93  2:00a
Subj: Re: Speical intro offer                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Boris,  How about posting an address.  I will gladly send a
>>    SASE for a list of your CD Roms and prices.
>>               Thanx,

Jerry, our TOTALLY NEW CATALOGUE will be available soon. We will have it
on 3 1/2" disk's as well as a CD and on our BBS system.

We will begin shipping the above to all our cutomers first and then post
a message to ALL as to where one may obtain a copy of it.

This will not be just a catalogue as you will see as it will contain many
of the other computer products we handle as well.

So watch the echos for it's release.....and thank you for your interest.

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: MATTHEW MATHERS                        Number: 1122
  To: KEVIN WILLIAMS                           Date: 06/21/93  7:49p
Subj: Re: Toshiba XM 3301b                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KW> I just recently aquired on e of the things and want to sell it, It has
KW> never been used and has no cable's or packaging. I will take offers on
KW> it
KW> here. Again a TOSHIBA XM3301b Internal CD ROM DRIVE. I will entertain
KW> Trade offers as well
KW>  Kevin WIlliams

I am very interested in your Toshiba CD Drive!  Would you be willing to
trade for four 4MB SIMMS (80ns, 72-pin)?  If so, give me a call at (309)
788-5077, call my BBS at [phone], or leave a message here.  Thanx!


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From: MATTHEW MATHERS                        Number: 1123
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 06/21/93  7:51p
Subj: Re: Hitachi 3500 internal               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MB> Hi all,
MB> I have one Hitachi CDR-3500 internal CD-ROM for sale, with one caddy and
MB> the ribbon cable (no interface card) for sale or trade.
MB> The unit is in excellent condition, for $95.00 + shipping of your MB>
choice. This is only ONE unit, but I have several CDR-1503S externals MB>
available at only $106.00 (bare). Leave responses here, or NETMAIL to MB>
MEG*A*BITE BBS, Fido 1:239/675.  BBS # is [phone] 14.4 MB> Thanks
MB> Matt B.

If this drive is a SCSI cd-rom drive, I am very interested.  I would be
willing to trade a 4MB SIMM or 2 for it.  If you're interested, let me know.
 Thanx!


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From: MATTHEW MATHERS                        Number: 1124
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 06/21/93  7:57p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CL> How many MS is this drive.. How long have you had it for?
CL> What shape is it in?

MK> 1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure MK>
with
MK>   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and
MK> 90-
MK>   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00
MK> 2. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

I am very interested in both your CD's.  Would you be willing to trade for a
couple of 4MB SIMMS (4 of them for both CD drives).  These are 4x9. 80ns,
32-bit, 72-pin SIMMS.  If you are interested, let me know.  Thanx!


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From: MATTHEW MATHERS                        Number: 1125
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/21/93  7:59p
Subj: 4MB SIMMS trade for CDrom               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                            Best deal for 4MB SIMMS!

I have several 4MB SIMMS that I would like to sell or trade.  These simms
are 4x9, 80ns, 72-pin, 32-bit wide.  They can be used in the Amiga 4000,
most A1200 memory cards, and almost every accelerator board around.  Here is
my price list:

                          Quantity    Price
                          --------    -----
                             1         $100
                             2         $190
                             3         $275
                             4         $350
                             5+        $80 per SIMM

The current mail order price for these items are about $135.00 per SIMM so
you can see this is a very nice deal!  These SIMMS are guaranteed for 30
days after you receive them (no DOA).

I would also be willing to trade for computer hardware (SCSI hard drive,
SCSI tape drives, SCSI CD drives, monitors, whole computers, etc).  Let me
know what you have and we can work out some kind of deal.

If you are interested in getting some of these, call me at [phone],
call my BBS at [phone], or leave me a message here.  Thanx!


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From: JIM HUSBAND                            Number: 1126
  To: VERNON MELTON                            Date: 06/22/93  5:04p
Subj: FOR TRADE - MAGAZINEI                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

|VM>     I'll offer one (1) Sony Language's CD in trade for your's.  It is a|
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+

    Vernon,
    Sorry it took so long for me to reply. I haven't heard of the
Sony CD before. Does it simply translate typed text, or does it
also serve as a Language dictionary and/or Language tutor? I'd
appreciate any info.

                                                            Jim

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From: KEVIN WILLIAMS                         Number: 1127
  To: CHAD PATTERSON                           Date: 06/22/93  4:01p
Subj: Toshiba XM 3301b                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I don't know the speed or much about the drive, just the model number. It
came with the package. Are you still interested?

               Kevin Williams

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1128
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/22/93  5:58p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Doug!

Sunday June 20 1993, Doug Carpenter writes to Mark Abbacchi:

 DC> This was an interesting message over on RIME:

That's the down-side to accepting pre-orders for any product.  I like Boris'
approach:  Accept orders after the product is looking you in the face.  ;-)

Later,

Dave.

... MORALITY cannot be defined by individual choice.

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1129
  To: TEJ DHAWAN                               Date: 06/22/93  6:00p
Subj: catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Tej!

Saturday June 19 1993, Tej Dhawan writes to Dave Reed:

 TD> I bought Night Owl from you a couple of months ago.. what new titles do
 TD> you have..?  Could you please Email or Snail Mail me a list?

I mailed it out last week, and hopefully you have it by the time you get this
message.

Later,

Dave.

... MORALITY cannot be defined by individual choice.

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1130
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 06/22/93  6:03p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9.0!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mark!

Sunday June 20 1993, Mark Abbacchi writes to All:

 MA> Don't be the last on your block to get Night Owl 9.0!  The MARKetplace
 MA> WILL have this disk before 99.9% of the rest of the world!

That's what you said about Pier 2.  What happened?  ;-)

Later,

Dave.

... Don't blame me... I voted for Bush!

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1131
  To: WADE NORTON                              Date: 06/22/93  6:04p
Subj: CD WINBOX - GET ONE!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Wade!

Saturday June 19 1993, Wade Norton writes to Mike Shannon:

 >> ATTENTION WINDOWS USERS!  Looking for THE BEST Windows shareware CD?
 >> -+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--
 >> FROM THE MAKERS OF CD-POWERBOX . . . . . CD WINBOX 1.0 IS HERE!

 >> SPECIAL 2-DISC OFFER:  CD WINBOX + CD POWERBOX . . . (no dupes). . .
 >> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892

 >> ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ The magic of Windoze: Turning a 486 into an XT.

 WN> Rather a poor time for your TAG line isn't it.  I would say it is a bit
 WN> innapropriate(sp) considering you're TRYING TO SELL a Windows disk.

<ROFL>

... First Hillary, then Jennifer... now US!

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1132
  To: CHRIS BARRETT                            Date: 06/23/93  2:47a
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den In               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <06-20-93 11:24> Chris Barrett wrote:

CB>>     By the sounds of this message you are a producer. Just curious,
CB>> but are you and all you fellow producers ASP approved?

Yes, I am....and I don't of any publisher "ASP" approved--For the most part I
specialize in "XXX" CD's, and have only done one shareware disc and one
clipArt disc--The shareware disc we are working on now requires we peek at
each file closely to see if it is forbidden on CD--Don't believe the "ASP"
has made alot of noise about what we do---Have you heard something to the
contrary ? Are you affliated with "ASP" ?

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 1133
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 06/22/93  9:54p
Subj: Mitsumi Audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JR> Hi Josh;
JR>         Thanks for the info - You have me very close to
JR> upgrading my SB
JR>         to a PRO.
JR>                                 /JIM/
JR> --- FidoPCB v1.3 [NR]
JR>  * Origin: The GIFfer in Tampa, FL USA [phone] USR
JR> 16.8DS (1:377/50)
        You might want to get a Sound Blaster 16 ASP its supposed to be a
lot better, and your welcome for the info. Later...
                                        Josh
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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 1134
  To: ZACHARY ELWYN                            Date: 06/22/93 10:08p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Zachary Elwyn said:
ZE> I recently purchased a copy of 7th guest for my computer.
ZE>
ZE> I'm running a 486 33 VESA local bus w/ a cirrus logic 1MB
ZE> video card, 4MB of RAM, a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 all
ZE> connected w/ a Seagate WREN 9 (2.2 Gigabyte) hard drive w/ a
ZE> Adaptech 1542C SCSI II Controller.  The Demo will run only
ZE> in MCGA mode, and the actual program hangs at the command
ZE> line after starting the CD Audio section.  Anybody else have
ZE> a similar problem??
ZE>
ZE> Zachary Elwyn
ZE> Sysop, Critics Choice BBS
ZE> "The Stealth Sysop"
ZE> --- FMail 0.92
ZE>  * Origin: NEW AREA? (1:202/221)
        What kind of CD do you have? You might need to load a VESA driver to
get it to work. There are a lot of VESA drivers on disk 2. later...
                                                Josh
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1135
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/23/93 11:51a
Subj: DD CD                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have it in hand. Didn't realize you'd sent it to my POB (:> . I don't  go
there but 1-2 a week so there was some delay. Sorry.  I'll get to the  review
this weekend, I hope. Cheers!
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1136
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/23/93 12:20p
Subj: HELP... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SS> have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER installed, it
 SS> gives me the "incorrect DOS version" error.  Anyone have any ide


SETVER not has to be installed, it needs to be configured. Do a "HELP
SETVER" at the DOS prompt and go from there.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1137
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/23/93 12:06p
Subj:   INFO WANTED!!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LN> failed in the market yet--:) Hmmmm, wonder if I will get one :)


The Romulus seems to indicate they're available now; did you say it
would be the end of July? What do you think the street price will be if
MSRP is $129. ?
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1138
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/23/93 12:10p
Subj: PCX POTPOURRI                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SV> publications!), from Mark Abbacchi! :) Will the picturebook be s
 SV> seperately ?  BTW If you ever want one of your CDROM's reviewed


I'd like to know about the picture book, too, Lee. I just ordered a copy
of this from Mike S. and will be wanting the book.
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From: BRIAN WHEATLEY                         Number: 1139
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93 12:50p
Subj: Mail List.                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can you please put me on your Mailing List, Thanks.

               Brian Wheatley
               # 257-7495 140th Street.
               Surrey, B.C.  CANADA
               v3w6g5

Brian.

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1140
  To: JIM TAYLOR                               Date: 06/24/93  6:47a
Subj: Digital Dreams Review                   Refer: 4560
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Let me know if you like this type of review. I will try to keep them

We love it... Unbiased product reviews are always welcome.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1141
  To: MATTHEW MATHERS                          Date: 06/24/93  6:49a
Subj: 4MB SIMMS trade for CDrom               Refer: 4567
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->                             Best deal for 4MB SIMMS!

This is the CDROM_SALE echo. Please stay on topic.

tim
moderator
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From: BEN NATION                             Number: 1142
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/23/93 11:32a
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I run the 005 models, and use IRQ 10,11, & 5. IRQ 2 should not be used, but
I'm under the assumption that if it's absolutely the last alternative, then
yes it can be used if no other choice is available.


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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 1143
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/23/93  6:07p
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (22 Jun 93) Darin Celino wrote to Ben Nation...
 DC> If you read his config strings it is obvious that he is using two
 DC> cards because he is using two different IRQ's.

  No, he may be running two or more drives from one card.  At least thats
  what my instruction manual on this Phillips internal CD says.  Just set
  up your IRQ addresssing in your config.sys as a device driver and off you
  go.  Mine is not a SCSI either.  No argument intended here just a little
  feed back from the field.  BTW, you do know that you can run two hard
  drives from one IRQ address and two floppies at another address and both
  can be controlled from a single card.  Likewise from the same card you
  can also run printers, mice, modems and joy sticks.  Ain't it great!

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From: FRITZ WILSON                           Number: 1144
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/23/93  3:35p
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Darin Celino to Ben Nation <=-

 DC> IRQ's.....which Mitsumi drives are you running?  I have two LU002's in
 DC> one system and a LU005 in another.....seems the eight-bit cards of the
 DC> LU002's limit the number that can be installed.....becuase they only
 DC> allow IRQ's 2, 3, and 5 to be addressed.....and for most of us IRQ 2
 DC> is redirected to IRQ 9.....can IRQ 2 be used????

    I'm using IRQ 2 here with a LU002 in a 386/33, qemm6, dv2.42, dos6,
stacker, ....

DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.sys /r:2 \dev\mtmcdd.sys /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /S:3
/A:0 /M:19 /T:3 /I:2
                ^^^^


... Difference between a Virus & Windows? Viruses never fail.
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 1145
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/22/93  1:46p
Subj: Old Mitsumi's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

|JH> have seen them advertised for $90.00 each.                             |
|JH> If you would be willing to sell them for that I would buy three of them|
DC> +---------------------------------------------------------------------
DC> -------+No you haven't......you have seen the 800ms Tandy - Mitsumi
DC> CD-RomDrives for $90.  I only wish I had waited.....just bought two
DC> of thisdrive at $130 each.

I thought the older drives was all the same anyway.
600ms or 800ms still very slow for todays standards.
I guess your not willing to sell for $90.00 huh?
let me know if you happen to change your mind..

-Joe
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 1146
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/22/93  1:48p
Subj: Pier II                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC> And don't forget that version 6 was going for over $100! <g>
DC> Competition from others in the authoring business has driven their
DC> prices down.

WOW! $100.00, I didn't run cd-rom's when that on came out.
I suppose there was a lot of angry buyers when nightowl 7 came out and 6
dropped way down..
Just heard yesterday some dealers are taking pre-release orders for nightowl
9. Guess nightowl 8 is worth $20.00 now huh?

-Joe
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From: DON RIEB                               Number: 1147
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/21/93 11:56p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SaveWare

Call Don at 708-657-1160 or log onto the BBS at 708-724-2427
as new or use the Guest pass of Name: CD ROM  Password: CD ROM
If it asks for age or phone number put all 0's.
Sysops with Front door mailers can freq 1:115/724

Download CDROMCAT.ZIP and HARDCAT.ZIP from file base #2.

Sysops freq the best ANSi door out "ANSIGAL*.ZIP"  Ansi gal 1 and 2.

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From: JAY SEXTON                             Number: 1148
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/23/93  3:35p
Subj: sellin' some Roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Eric,
Please send me the "Family Doctor" on cd-rom at $25.
My address is:
Jay Sexton
1627 6th Ave.
Watervliet, NY 12189
Am I also to expect to pay for cod cost? And what about shipping?
Jay

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From: JESSE WOLGAMOTT                        Number: 1149
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93  4:17p
Subj: Tandy 1000                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a Tandy CD-ROM for sale, never used... Paid $250

Its a 640 mb, avg seek time, and comes with SCSI software, cards, and
connections.

Asking $150 OBO

Reply here, or call [phone]

Ask for Jesse

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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 1150
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 06/22/93  7:35a
Subj: MSCDEX PROBLEM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >         Try this instead.  Go to the c prompt and enter "help
 > setver" then follow the instructions.  Easy.

 Jim; finly found the problem to many copies on MSCDEX The DOS 6 version
<that works ok> has a hidden version #?? but it works.  Now I'm fighting the
IRQ DMA battle. Thanks, Clint

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 1151
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93 11:32a
Subj: .Mods, .Vocs, Ect                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi all,
        I was wondering if anyone had a CD with just music files on it such
as .Mods and .Vocs or anything like that.  BUT I don't want very many wavs
there should be more .MODS than anything else.  Well hope I hear from someone
soon.....

            Thanks,
                    Darren Sellner

                P.S.
                    Please tell me how many megs are on the CD.

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1152
  To: BOB SPILLERS                             Date: 06/23/93 11:32p
Subj: Re: Which Is Best?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Bob Spillers to All <=-

 BS> What are the advantages/disadvantages of a caddy/caddyless drive. I
 BS> am about two more questions from purchasing a CD ROM and this is one of
 BS> them. I have learned a lot just monitoring this echo and Ryan Denke
 BS> also gave me some very good info.  ITKU

        Advantages                             Disadvantages
        ----------                             -------------
Caddy: -protects CD's                          -cost: $4-$5 a piece
       -if you have 1 per CD, you never have   -if not 1 per CD, have to take
        to touch the CD once installed          out of jewel case and put in
                                                another case (caddy)
       -internal drive door is just a slot
        like a 3.5" floppy drive, so just
        slip in the caddy

Caddyless:
       -just drop the CD into the drive        -always handling CD's
       -no caddy to fool with or buy           -2 hand operation...push
button
                                                drive slides out...lift
lid...
                                                drop in CD....close
lid...push
                                                in drive

That's about all I can think of.....maybe someone can add (or delete) for
you.

... Anything unsecured is mine.  Anything I can pry loose is not secured.
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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1153
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/23/93 11:32p
Subj: Re: sellin' some Roms                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Eric Bravick to All Users <=-

 EB> CDRoms for sale:

 EB> Animals                      $20.00

If this is the San Diego Zoo: The Animals, I would like to offer you $17
delivered.  Please let me know...thanks !!

... Voice: 919-870-6926 or Prodigy: CJBM15A
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 1154
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 06/23/93  7:27a
Subj: Re: CD Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 20 Jun 93  07:14:19, I heard Michael Konor shout to All:

MK> 1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
MK>    power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and
90-
MK>    240 VAC universal input.  $215.00
MK>

  Do you have more than one of these drives ??  These are the drives that you

can connect four all together, Right ?? I might be buying the 4 then.


                   ......|<evin

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1155
  To: CHAD PATTERSON                           Date: 06/23/93 10:05a
Subj: cd-roms                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


CP> I am very interested in the Hitachi cdr-3500 and I was wondering

 I have about 50 of them for $130 if you want some.   Call
 205-824-2552 and get "Cream of the Crop"  shareware cd for half
 price with your order.   I also have:

  4 used Hitachi  internal  3500  drives  with  an  external  case,
  controller  card,  cables,  caddies,  screws,  drivers,  30   day
  warranty,  INCLUDING shipping in the US via  US  mail  AND  c.o.d
  charges   ...   ONLY     $600    total.      Call    205-824-2552

  Power supplies are available for $25,
  External cable is available for $30,
  2 nd day shipping is available for $25.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1156
  To: CAM LERCH                                Date: 06/23/93 10:06a
Subj: Cheap CD-ROM Drives                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


CL> Hello all.. If you have any information about cheap old CD-ROM
 CL> drives.. around
 CL> 680ms for a cheap price please drop me a note..

 I have some used Hitachi 3500 internals for $130 each.
 Controller cards are $60 that will run up to 4 of these drives.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1157
  To: MARC FONTENOT                            Date: 06/23/93 10:11a
Subj:  Looking For Cd-Rom S                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


MF> Thanks Pete!  I have made a deal with a guy in Alabama,  I will
 MF> buy the CD-Rom So Much Shareware 2.  It is set up for a Spitfire
 MF> bbs, and in fact it is put out buy a Spitfire sysop!

 You should see "Cream of the Crop" automatically set itself up on
 Spitfire.  If you saw it run and totally do everything in less
 than 2 minutes you would be surprised.  Call me for a %50
 discount if you are a sysop on Fidonet and listed in Nodelist.dat
 205-824-2552

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1158
  To: IAN LEVSTEIN                             Date: 06/23/93 10:19a
Subj: Sony 31A & SBPro                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


IL> I'd like to hook up the audio output of my new Sony 31A to my
 IL> SoundBlaster Pro, but it seems that the audio cable connectors
 IL> are not compatible.  Any suggestions?

 Go behind your local tv repair shop and find a vcr that they have
 thrown out and you can get a hand full of wires that will work.
 All you need to do is get two wires to connect the left and right
 channels and the ground will go through your mother board.
 Presto!  Music...

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From: BERNARD TIBBETTS                       Number: 1159
  To: ROBERT LEE                               Date: 06/24/93  5:16p
Subj: Maximus BBS-specific CDRo               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Goodie Goodie. is it Changer & multinode conpatible.

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 1160
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93  9:24p
Subj: Digital dreams for sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Digital Dreams adult CD for sale
perfect condition, just released.
630 + megs with many many .GIF file viewers, utilities.
BBS ready
25.00


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From: CHARLES STRUSZ @ 970/201               Number: 1161
  To: DOUG STRIEFLER                           Date: 06/23/93  9:34a
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Does anyone know of any good deals on cd rom burners
->
-> preferably the Phillips model

I have the Phillips 521 for $4750 US Cash.  Comes with sample disk and CD
Write authoring software.  In stock and ready to ship.


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From: CHARLES STRUSZ @ 970/201               Number: 1162
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 06/23/93  9:41a
Subj: Pier 2 desc.,ra bbs                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> the date & size out!  Next time you get a CD, let me know and I'll
-> let you FREQ the utility that should do all the work for you!

I'd like to freq those now!  What's the Magic Name?


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From: DENNIS STERNER                         Number: 1163
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/23/93  7:47a
Subj: SELLIN' SOME ROMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'll offer $220 for everything.
Call 717-637-2972 if you wish to speed up this sale.

Dennis

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From: TIM WILLIAMS                           Number: 1164
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93  9:20a
Subj: Midi cd's                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm needing info on midi cd's. Is there such an animal as a cd with midi
sounds, drums , ect that can be used in recording.

... But soft, what light through yonder tagline breaks?
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From: JACK BROWN                             Number: 1165
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/23/93  6:23p
Subj: Nix pix                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

A CD-ROM catalog put out by a local BBS indicated that the Nix Pix disks are
from the same company that published Busty Babes.  I knew you published the
latter - did you also publish the former?
===
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From: DAVE KALWISHKY                         Number: 1166
  To: BILL SCHNELL                             Date: 06/23/93  3:12p
Subj: Mitsumi questions                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BS> You'll have to register it. Well worth the $23.00. Send netmail to
  > 2:224/40.17 for more info. If you use your credit card, they
  > can file attach them to you.

I sent them a fax today with my Visa number and my Compuserve address, so
hopefully he can upload it to me there..  I think the driver is well worth
the $23..

     -=> Dave <=-     Wed  06-23-1993


 -- SPEED 1.4c #1039: We raffled off a turkey -- she's in Room 303.


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From: BILL DEERTZ                            Number: 1167
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/23/93 10:09p
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> per interface card.  Please explain!
->
-> For others interested in this setup.....everything in Bill's
-> Config.sys and Autoexec.bat does work when you are using two drives
-> and two interface cards.

Sorry, my mistake!  You need two interface cards for two Mitsumi
CD-ROM's.  For whatever reason I mistakenly thought he wanted to know if
you could run two Mitsumi's in the same machine, not from the same
interface card.  Strike that comment...


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From: BILL DEERTZ                            Number: 1168
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 06/23/93 10:10p
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->  sorry to but in, but I run 3, each using there own card. How can you
-> 1 card. I'd really be interested in learning your technique. At the m
-> mitsumi's can be ran, if your able to run 2 from 1 card, just maybe 1
-> ran from 5 cards. Are you somehow splicing wires together?

My mistake, I was zoning when I replied to that message.  I was thinking
he wanted to know if you could run two Mitsumi's in the same machine,
not from the same interface card....


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From: BILL DEERTZ                            Number: 1169
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/23/93 10:13p
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->  -> Does the Mitsumi $200 dollar drives allow more than one drive to
->  BD> Yes, you can run up to two  Mitsumi's on the same interface card
->
-> And how, may I ask, do you physically connect 2 mitsumi drives to the
-> controller card?
->

Oooppss, sorry, my mistake.  I was in another world when I replied to
that message. You in fact need one interface card for each CD ROM.  I
mistakenly replied thinking he wanted to know if you could run two
Mitsumi's from the same machine.


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From: EARL BONSER                            Number: 1170
  To: BILL DEERTZ                              Date: 06/24/93 12:27a
Subj: Mitsumi Drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Yes, you can run up to two  Mitsumi's on the same interface card.  I have
-> two and have been running them on a 2 node system for several months with
no
-> problems.  The following are excerpts from my config.sys and autoexec.bat
-> files:
->
-> DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 \DEV\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0
/M:5
-> /I:5
-> DEVICE:C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 \DEV\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD002 /P:310 /A:0
/M:5
-> /I:2

On the same interface card?  Why 2 addresses and drivers?  Looks like 2
interface cards to me.  Given that, you can run as many as you have slots,
IRQ's and addresses for.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 1171
  To: ADAM GILBERT                             Date: 06/22/93 11:23p
Subj: Mitsumis for $110                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 AG> Are you taking trades?  If you are I'll give you a 40meg
 AG> IDE hard drive and a 20mb MFM hard drive.  Both are in
 AG> perfect working order and have no bad sectors.
 AG> Give me a call if interested.
Sorry, the only drives I get these days are SCSI and in the GB+ range. Can't
think of any hardware I need, but would really love a copy of Zyindex or
Folio. Voice [phone]. Thanks.
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1172
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93  5:51a
Subj: CD-Rom Special                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Computer Works is having a special on some very recently released discs.

Software Vault #2 for $29
Digital Dreams for $32
Get both for $55

Be sure to mention this message when ordering.  Quantities are limited
and this deal can be terminated at any time.  Terms are check or money
order.  Shipping is $4.00 and C.O.D. is an extra $3.25 in the U.S.
To order Digital Dreams, you must be 21 or older.

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS
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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 1173
  To: ZACHARY ELWYN                            Date: 06/23/93  6:21p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ZE>I'm running a 486 33 VESA local bus w/ a cirrus logic 1MB video card, 4MB
of
ZE>RAM, a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 all connected w/ a Seagate WREN 9 (2.2
Gigabyte
ZE>hard drive w/ a Adaptech 1542C SCSI II Controller.  The Demo will run only
i
ZE>MCGA mode, and the actual program hangs at the command line after starting
t
ZE>CD Audio section.  Anybody else have a similar problem??

I assume you got the fix off of their BBS which allows VLB Cirrus cards
to work?

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * A career is a job that takes about 20 more hours a
week.


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From: NILL TOULME                            Number: 1174
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93  7:04p
Subj: CDROM ACCESS PRICES 6/16 #1             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

From : Kirk Jensen                               06-16-93  10:26
To   : All
Subj : CD-ROM PRICES JUNE 16  #1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
==========================================================================
D-ROM ACCESS PRICE LIST FOR JUNE - REFERENCE AND BUSINESS
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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 1175
  To: MATTHEW MATHERS                          Date: 06/24/93  6:14a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MM> CL> How many MS is this drive.. How long have you had it for?
MM> CL> What shape is it in?
MM>
MM> MK> 1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height
MM> Enclosure MK> with
MM> MK>   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for
MM> I/O, and MK> 90-
MM> MK>   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00
MM> MK> 2. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00
MM>
MM> I am very interested in both your CD's.  Would you be willing to
MM> trade for a couple of 4MB SIMMS (4 of them for both CD drives).
MM> These are 4x9. 80ns, 32-bit, 72-pin SIMMS.  If you are interested,
MM> let me know.  Thanx!

Sounds like a good deal.  But, unfortunately, I've got all the ram my
system can even possibly use.

Thanks for the offer.  The drives are still available if you still want a
couple.


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 1176
  To: BLAKE BARR                               Date: 06/24/93  6:41a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BB>         Does anyone out there have a used (Fairly new) cd-rom drive
BB> they want to sell? I dont really care what brand, as long as it
BB> works without hassle. It will be used on a bbs. Preferably
BB> External, but Interal will do. Dont want to spend much. Already
BB> have one drive myself.

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Both Drives Include:  90 Day Warranty, External DIP switches, True 50 pin
  SCSI, 350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, newest ROM
  installed.  Diagnostic/cleaning done by service center.  NO special
  drivers required.  5.25 - HH Drive. 64k Buffer and manual. MPC Compatible

205-837-5053 -=- Leave Message if not home, it WILL be returned -=-

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 1177
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93  6:43a
Subj: Toshiba CD Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Both Drives Include:  90 Day Warranty, External DIP switches, True 50 pin
  SCSI, 350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, newest ROM
  installed.  Diagnostic/cleaning done by service center.  NO special
  drivers required.  5.25 - HH Drive. 64k Buffer and manual. MPC Compatible

205-837-5053 -=- Leave Message if not home, it WILL be returned -=-



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From: EDWARD HENSEL                          Number: 1178
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/24/93  9:29a
Subj: HELP... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM, which I can not load the driver for now that
-> have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER installed, it stil
-> gives me the "incorrect DOS version" error.  Anyone have any ideas???
->                       Any info. will be GREATLY appreciated!  Shane
->
-> ---
->  ■ WinQwk 2.0 a#0 ■ Unregistered Evaluation Copy
->
-> --- EzyQwk V1.02
->  * Origin: Beacon Hill System  <HST>  Transfer Pa (1:2601/506)

Try using the MSCDEX.EXE file from DOS 6.0 instead of the one supplied
from the Drive company.


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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 1179
  To: DON RIEB                                 Date: 06/23/93  3:32p
Subj: Re: CDROM changer software              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DR> I have seen a lot of the sysops getting the Monster disk (2 disk set)
and
 DR> the Shareware Extravaganza (4 disk set) for there BBS's as it has no
 DR> duplicate files or duplicate file bases.   Each disk has different file

I got the Shareware Extravaganza for my BBS and am a bit disappointed with
it.  A large number of the files are VERY old.  Many are dated in the mid
80's!  Although the directories in many areas are dated from earlier this
year the people who put this out obviously didn't use the latest versions of
anything.  If you want to get Maximus for example version 1.?? is on the CD
when version 2.?? has been out for a couple years.


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From: BRIAN BOURNE                           Number: 1180
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93 10:00p
Subj: CD's for Sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

San Diego Zoo Presents: The Animals (on CD-ROM) DOS ed. (new) - $35
San Diego Zoo Presents: The Animals (on CD-ROM) Windows ed. (new) - $40
BattleChess CD ROM - $15

Call 225-0205 if interested (I won't be able to respond to email).

Brian

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From: TODD VIERLING                          Number: 1181
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/23/93  6:52p
Subj: Re: HELP... please!!!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 22-Jun-93, Shane Snyder (1:2601/506) contemplated HELP... please!!!
 and said the following to ALL:

 SS> I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM, which I can not load the driver for now that
 SS> I have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER installed, it
 SS> stilkl gives me the "incorrect DOS version" error.  Anyone have any
 SS> ideas???
 SS>                       Any info. will be GREATLY appreciated!  Shane

Which driver can you not load? the ???.SYS driver, or the MSCDEX.EXE
driver? Remember that MSCDEX comes with DOS 6 and you should not use an
older one. As far as the ???.SYS driver goes, if you put the correct
version number in SETVER, you also need this line in your CONFIG.SYS before
the ???.SYS driver is loaded:

DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE

This loads and activates Setver. Also be sure that since you're using DOS
6's MSCDEX, that SETVER has no entry for it (i.e. type SETVER MSCDEX.EXE /D
at a DOS prompt).

 - T\/: FIDO 1:371/39.11; INTERNET [e-mail]
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From: GARY HOWIE                             Number: 1182
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/24/93 12:10p
Subj: sellin' some Roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EB>CDRoms for sale:
EB>      Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00

Eric,
     I'll take the above.  Send me an address and I'll send the $$.
                                                                        -grh
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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 1183
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93 10:58a
Subj: CDROM titles 4 Sale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Because some people didn't keep their word or there was some trouble with
checks, I still have one each of the following CDROM titles from my last msg
for sale at prices stated:

$15.00  Barney Bear Goes to School--for ages 2-6. Listen to stories and play
                                    various education activities.

$15.00  the Manhole--A graphic fantasy exploration (just use mouse) for ages
                     4-7+.

$20.00  American Business Phone Book--New, still in shrink wrap. 10 million+
                                      American business listings and over 1
                                      million Canadian listings, 1993
edition.

$20.00  Multimedia Toolbook--Asymetrix Toolbook 1.5 evaluation edition. Lets
                             a person develop a multimedia presentation for
                             WIN 3.1 and check out the program before
                             spending $595.00 list to see if it's right for
                             you. Limits developmental time to 6 hours of
                             work per project.


All prices are firm and do not include shipping. For shipping: 1st item $2.00

2nd item $1.00 more, 3rd and above $.50 more each.

Sorry but to make this easier for me, these are for sale in U.S. only. No
COD.
A money order gets same day first class shipping, and a check gets a 5 bank
working day hold. All orders will get a letter telling status of order,
return
of monies, etc. as needed.

Send order to:

Paul Swider
509 Digger St.
Las Vegas, Nv.
89107

If you have to discuss anything about the titles or concerning an order,
please call me at [phone] from 1PM to 9PM PDST. Thanks.

>Paul<

... OFFLINE 1.50  "Live now -- procrastinate tomorrow!"

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From: STEVE O'BRIEN                          Number: 1184
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93 12:00a
Subj: CD ROM FILE LISTINGS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TO ALL:
  I am looking for (among other things) a place (BBS; a disk; paper
(although paper wouldn't be the environmental choice))  that has the lists
of most, some, one or two adult CD listings.  I really cannot see it as a
hard thing to do since most of the Cds come with the listings (FILES.BBS .
. .) on them.  [SOAPBOX] To place these files in the accessible user would
be an excellent marketing ploy [END SOAPBOX]  So if you or anyone else
knows of this info please be a chum; a buddy old' pal and drop me a line!
Later
 Steve

A^'
└;ñ^≈^---A^'
└;ñ^≈^ ■ WinQwk 2.0 #0 ■ Unregistered Evaluation CopyA^'
└;ñ^≈^

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From: HOWARD MALKIEL                         Number: 1185
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93  8:49a
Subj: Cd rom discs to trade                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi everyone. I have a couple of XXX CD's that I would be willing to trade.
       - Asian Ladies - Pretty new disc, only used 3-4 times.

       - Adult Reference Library - Also new with minimal use.

Let me know what you have to trade, and we'll see if we can hook up.

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1186
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/22/93 10:50p
Subj: Re: Old Mitsumi's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> No you haven't......you have seen the 800ms Tandy - Mitsumi CD-Rom
> Drives for $90.  I only wish I had waited.....just bought two of this
> drive at $130 each.
Hi Darin,
Keep your eyes open. I am in the talks for Toshiba 3301 drives for $190 each.
The deal has not been finalized but very close. I will also do a close our
for a national hardware distribution company. They also be SCSI drives. TTYL

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1187
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 06/22/93 10:53p
Subj: Re: DIGITAL DREAMS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> I only mention this because I am looking for a Canadian CD distributor
> that desires to compete with the Americans. The only one I have found to
> date is Vince Sorensen (sp?) in Regina. Unfortunately, he does not offer
> anything I am currently looking for.
Hi Don, I may open a branch in Surrey, BC. I am in the talks with another
fellow and he wants to franchise our operation in Canada. TTYL

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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1188
  To: KEVIN WILLIAMS                           Date: 06/23/93  7:47p
Subj: Toshiba XM 3301b                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I was wondering if you have a SCSI controler for it and if there are
cables.  I would like to also know if you would be interested in
trading for a Logitech Hand Scanner.  I really don't now the going rate
for that model of drive so please get back to me on what you think is
fair.  I am either looking for a drive that is somewhat slow, around
500+ms with atleast a 150k transfer rate or pay a little more and get a
drive that is 300-ms with at least 225k transfer rate.  Please give me
an idea on price that you need.  Thanks Chad.
    P.S. I will be buying something really soon so please be quick in
responding.  Thank you once again.


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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 1189
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/24/93  9:38a
Subj: HELP... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

|SS> I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM, which I can not load the driver for now that I|
|SS> have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER installed, it stilkl|
|SS> gives me the "incorrect DOS version" error.  Anyone have any ideas???  |
|SS>                       Any info. will be GREATLY appreciated!  Shane    |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
You must be using the MSCDEX that came with the drive.....the drive
software also includes the SETVER program.  Depending upon how old the
drive is you may have these two programs from as far back as DOS 4.0.
Try directing the line in your Autoexec that calls MSCDEX to your DOS
6.0 directory.....and don't use SETVER at all.

Good Luck
___
 X MegaMail 2.10 #0:Stupidity is not a handicap.  Park elsewhere!

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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 1190
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/24/93  9:46a
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: 06/26/93  7:10a                       Private: No

|TH> Isn't Mark Abb*.* Pier's top distributor?  I know for a fact that Mark |
|TH> has spent thousands of dollars promoting the Pier series, both in this |
|TH> echo & in most of the major magazines.... And now he's being screwed?  |
|TH> I don't get it.... Why would a publisher shaft his top distributor?    |
|TH>                                                                        |
|TH> Shareware CD ROM success recipe:                                       |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
I agree.....

I was thinking about getting Pier 2 to put online and sell to
users.....now I don't believe I want to have anything to do with 1 or
2 and feel sure that Greg A.'s actions in this matter will prohibit
him from making a Pier 3.

Oh....Greg.....I have a 32 meg RLL harddrive that I am selling for
$200.  It cost me over $500 when I purchased it new in 1988.  It has
very low useage.....used in my 4 year olds computer.  I am sorry but I
cannot allow it to be sold at what the market will bear for this drive
because of what I paid for it.  It must go soon.
___
 X MegaMail 2.10 #0:Work is for those who don't like to fish.

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From: SCOTT HUNSINGER                        Number: 1191
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93  7:35p
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD's for sale:

Wing Commander II Deluxe Edition
Phoenix CD Version 3.0 (still shrinkwrapped) Lotus 1-2-3 for Windows with
Multimedia Smarthelp The Bible Library Animated Pixels - The Illustrated Holy
Bible Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective Version I Prophone (3 disk set of
all phone numbers in U.S.) The Complete Works of William Shakespeare The
Complete Sherlock Holmes Street Atlas USA (for the right price)

I'm not interested in trades unless you have a GREAT deal for me. You can
reply here, or reach me at either [phone] or 786-1034 (second number
before 10pm).  I'm usually here after 3pm or so.


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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 1192
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93  8:37a
Subj: CD WinBox!                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Damar Enterprises announces the introduction of a NEW
Windows-based Shareware CD-ROM:

               *#############*    Available from better
               #  CD WinBox  #    dealers in this echo!
               *#############*

This is a GREAT addition to folks that already own our first
release, the CD PowerBox.  If you're into Windows - the
WinBox is for you.  Here are the disk's stats:

*    Approximately 6,000 files.
*    Over 30% are TRULY dated 1993!
*    Over 620 MegaBytes of files, icons, articles, and
     bitmaps.
*    40 Files areas each with a multi-line file description
     in the FILES.BBS format.
*    SFFILES.BBS and MASTER.DIR supported as well!
*    Use the true Windows-based Graphical User Interface for
     quick file location and installation!
*    Huge amounts of applications (this disk is not just a
     collection of icons and graphics!)

#    AREA NAME:                    #    AREA NAME:
------------------------------     ----------------------------
1    New & Journals                21   Networking
2    Windows NT                    22   Windows for Workgroups
3    Financial & Investment        23   Communications A-M
4    Printer Utils/Drivers         24   Communications N-Z
5    Games A-M                     25   Icons Galore A-G
6    Games N-Z                     26   Icons Galore H-P
7    Personal Info. Managers       27   Icons Galore Q-Z
8    Multimedia - Video            28   Icon Apps/Utils
9    Multimedia - Sound A-M        29   Screen Savers
10   Multimedia - Sound N-Z        30   Fonts - ATM Type A-M
11   Developers Files              31   Fonts - ATM Type N-Z
12   Visual Basic A-M              32   Fonts - TrueType A-M
13   Visual Basic N-Z              33   Fonts - TrueType N-Z
14   Word for Windows              34   Fonts - Apps/Utils
15   Other Word Processors         35   Educational
16   Graphics - Apps/Utils         36   Spreadsheet Related
17   Graphics - BMP/RLE A-M        37   Database
18   Graphics - BMP/RLE N-Z        38   Apps A-J
19   Graphics - PCX A-M            39   Apps K-S
20   Graphics - PCX N-Z            40   Apps T-Z

       Call your favorite dealer for competitive prices!


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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 1193
  To: MATTHEW MATHERS                          Date: 06/23/93  2:16p
Subj: 4MB SIMMS trade for CDrom               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If those SIMMs are actually 1x36 4MB, I'd be itnerested in trading a CD-ROM
drive for them. Please call me at [phone]. Thanks.
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From: TIM MUTH                               Number: 1194
  To: CHRIS HORKA                              Date: 06/25/93 12:04a
Subj: modem                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Chris:
     I've picked up a USRobotics 14400 modem but i'm still dnloaading
at 2400.


Why?



Tim


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From: SHAWN DOWNEY                           Number: 1195
  To: SYSOP                                    Date: 06/23/93  7:57p
Subj: CD ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I Recently Posted An AD, And It Was Incorrect. Ad Price Was $79US And Was
Supposed To Read $39US. Furthermore, The AD Displayed DIGITAL DREAMS
And Was To Display DIGITAL DREAMS - THE MCHENRY COLLECTION. Shortening It's
Name To Just DIGITAL DREAMS Caused Conflict As That Name Is Obviously In
Use On Another (Different) Compact Disc.

So, Here's The Re-Run, Sorry For The Errors On The First Go Around. Just So
Everyone Knows, This CD ROM Is Not For Sale By Anyone Anywhere Except
SR MEDIA. It Is Not The Same Compact Disc As 'DIGITAL DREAMS'. It Was Made
By SR MEDIA And Is Sold Only Through SR MEDIA

Here We Go:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Announcing "DIGITAL DREAMS - THE MCHENRY COLLETION" Adult CD ROM

If You're Wondering What's On This Amazing ROM, And If You Want To Double
Check That It's Not The Same As The 'Digital Dreams' CD ROM You Might Have,
Call 403-236-7869 And Check This Awesome CD ROM Out Via BBS.

DIGITAL DREAMS - THE MCHENRY COLLECTION Was Produced 06-15-93 And Is Now
Available To All CD Users. The CD ROM Is An Adult Collection Of Images.
This CD ROM Is The Absolutely Finest Collection Of Adult .GIF Images Ever
Compiled By Anyone!

Over 1700 (640x480x256) Images. Over 300 DL/GL/FLI Animations. The Latest
Graphic Utilities And More! 2500+ Files In All * OVER 500 MEGABYTES *

Features:

 - 1,700+ Unmodified Original Scans From The MCHENRY Adult BBS. No Painful
   Logos Slapped On Top Of These Quality Images By Irresponsible SysOps.
   Fully Classified And Described Just Like On McHenry. Images Trace McHenry
   Right Up To The Pressing Date Of This CD - Tonnes Of New Images Not Found
   On Any CD ROM Anywhere! HOT HOT HOT Entertainment For Adults!

 - Over 300 Adult Animations Reside In .ZIP Format For BBS Operators, As
   Well As In The RAW .DL, .GL, .FLI Files Ready For Viewing. The Latest Of
   Each Animation Viewer Is Included.

 - Fully SysOp Ready. File Listing Formats In 3 Styles. Support For Anyone
   Using The Standard FILES.BBS Listing. Also Available Is A FILES.DIR For
   TBBS Software. And One More Format For Another Popular Software Package.
   Support For RemoteAccess, QuickBBS, SuperBBS, WildCat!, TBBS, PCBoard And
   More!!!! Every Image Is Listed In The File Listings In Each Directory.

 - Add This CD To Your Adult Collection And You'll Have By Far The Best Set
   Of Adult Images Available To Your Users On Your System! No Annoying ZIP
   Banners Advertising Someone Else's BBS - No Annoying Logos Plastered Over
   The Images - It's Perfect!

 - 0% Duplication, Absolutely Incredible Package. I Personally Own Over 10
   Adult CD ROM's And This One Takes The Cake * BY FAR * Designed By A SysOp
   With The SysOp In Mind.

 - An Absolute Must For The Avid .GIF Collector. No Collection Touches What
   Is On This ROM - It's Incredible!!! Includes All The Popular GIF Viewers
   Such As CSHOW, VPIC, VUIMAGE And A Whole Lot More. Drawing Programs, Image
   Editors, Converters, Etc.

 - Master File Listings Compiled And Included On The CD ROM. Each And Every
   Directory Is Included. This Is A DREAM Come True For SysOps With Adult
   Areas!

 - Absolutely No Low-Res Garbage. No 320x200x256 Junk! Just Premium Scans
   By McHenry BBS In Minimum Resolutions Of 640x480x256.

To Order This Amazing CD ROM Send A Cheque Or Money Order For $39US Funds To:
Again That's Just $39.00 (THIRTY NINE) US Funds!

 SR Media
 P.O. Box 72138 G.L.P.O
 1600 - 90th Avenue S.W.
 Calgary, Alberta
 T2V 5H9

Sorry, We Don't Currently Accept Credit Cards. Money Order Payments Will Be
Shipped *SAME DAY*. Prices Do Not Include Shipping. We'll Ship However You
Want It Shipped. FedEx or UPS Recommended.

SR Media Information Line: 403-630-1336 Compact Disc Demo BBS: 403-236-7869

 ** CALL OUR BBS FOR A COMPLETE LISTING OF FILES ON THIS AMAZING CD ROM **

- Again, it's *NOT* the same as 'DIGITAL DREAMS' for $29US.

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From: SHAWN DOWNEY                           Number: 1196
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93  7:57p
Subj: CD ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I Recently Posted An AD, And It Was Incorrect. Ad Price Was $79US And Was
Supposed To Read $39US. Furthermore, The AD Displayed DIGITAL DREAMS
And Was To Display DIGITAL DREAMS - THE MCHENRY COLLECTION. Shortening It's
Name To Just DIGITAL DREAMS Caused Conflict As That Name Is Obviously In
Use On Another (Different) Compact Disc.

So, Here's The Re-Run, Sorry For The Errors On The First Go Around. Just So
Everyone Knows, This CD ROM Is Not For Sale By Anyone Anywhere Except
SR MEDIA. It Is Not The Same Compact Disc As 'DIGITAL DREAMS'. It Was Made
By SR MEDIA And Is Sold Only Through SR MEDIA

Here We Go:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Announcing "DIGITAL DREAMS - THE MCHENRY COLLETION" Adult CD ROM

If You're Wondering What's On This Amazing ROM, And If You Want To Double
Check That It's Not The Same As The 'Digital Dreams' CD ROM You Might Have,
Call 403-236-7869 And Check This Awesome CD ROM Out Via BBS.

DIGITAL DREAMS - THE MCHENRY COLLECTION Was Produced 06-15-93 And Is Now
Available To All CD Users. The CD ROM Is An Adult Collection Of Images.
This CD ROM Is The Absolutely Finest Collection Of Adult .GIF Images Ever
Compiled By Anyone!

Over 1700 (640x480x256) Images. Over 300 DL/GL/FLI Animations. The Latest
Graphic Utilities And More! 2500+ Files In All * OVER 500 MEGABYTES *

Features:

 - 1,700+ Unmodified Original Scans From The MCHENRY Adult BBS. No Painful
   Logos Slapped On Top Of These Quality Images By Irresponsible SysOps.
   Fully Classified And Described Just Like On McHenry. Images Trace McHenry
   Right Up To The Pressing Date Of This CD - Tonnes Of New Images Not Found
   On Any CD ROM Anywhere! HOT HOT HOT Entertainment For Adults!

 - Over 300 Adult Animations Reside In .ZIP Format For BBS Operators, As
   Well As In The RAW .DL, .GL, .FLI Files Ready For Viewing. The Latest Of
   Each Animation Viewer Is Included.

 - Fully SysOp Ready. File Listing Formats In 3 Styles. Support For Anyone
   Using The Standard FILES.BBS Listing. Also Available Is A FILES.DIR For
   TBBS Software. And One More Format For Another Popular Software Package.
   Support For RemoteAccess, QuickBBS, SuperBBS, WildCat!, TBBS, PCBoard And
   More!!!! Every Image Is Listed In The File Listings In Each Directory.

 - Add This CD To Your Adult Collection And You'll Have By Far The Best Set
   Of Adult Images Available To Your Users On Your System! No Annoying ZIP
   Banners Advertising Someone Else's BBS - No Annoying Logos Plastered Over
   The Images - It's Perfect!

 - 0% Duplication, Absolutely Incredible Package. I Personally Own Over 10
   Adult CD ROM's And This One Takes The Cake * BY FAR * Designed By A SysOp
   With The SysOp In Mind.

 - An Absolute Must For The Avid .GIF Collector. No Collection Touches What
   Is On This ROM - It's Incredible!!! Includes All The Popular GIF Viewers
   Such As CSHOW, VPIC, VUIMAGE And A Whole Lot More. Drawing Programs, Image
   Editors, Converters, Etc.

 - Master File Listings Compiled And Included On The CD ROM. Each And Every
   Directory Is Included. This Is A DREAM Come True For SysOps With Adult
   Areas!

 - Absolutely No Low-Res Garbage. No 320x200x256 Junk! Just Premium Scans
   By McHenry BBS In Minimum Resolutions Of 640x480x256.

To Order This Amazing CD ROM Send A Cheque Or Money Order For $39US Funds To:
Again That's Just $39.00 (THIRTY NINE) US Funds!

 SR Media
 P.O. Box 72138 G.L.P.O
 1600 - 90th Avenue S.W.
 Calgary, Alberta
 T2V 5H9

Sorry, We Don't Currently Accept Credit Cards. Money Order Payments Will Be
Shipped *SAME DAY*. Prices Do Not Include Shipping. We'll Ship However You
Want It Shipped. FedEx or UPS Recommended.

SR Media Information Line: 403-630-1336 Compact Disc Demo BBS: 403-236-7869

 ** CALL OUR BBS FOR A COMPLETE LISTING OF FILES ON THIS AMAZING CD ROM **

- Again, it's *NOT* the same as 'DIGITAL DREAMS' for $29US.

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1197
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 06/23/93 10:41p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD PRICE$                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Mike Shannon <06-22-93 01:03> Tim Schooler wrote:

TS>> regarding Nix Pix I, your reply seemed somewhat short. <g>.. What's
TS>> wrong with it ? You carry all of the others...

It's federally illegal, and he could run into criminal charges as a
distributor.....Not *ONE* reputable dealer will carry this disc--My
definition of reputable is the person who deals in CD's full time, and is a
top 20 wholesaler, appears at all the big shows etc....the smaller dealers
tend to carry it because they don't know any better, and want to make all the
sales they can--A professional dealer who knows the industry won't get near
that disc at all--The penalties are much to risky...

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: BILL WOLFORD                           Number: 1198
  To: BILL DEERTZ                              Date: 06/24/93  5:30p
Subj: Mitsumi drive(s)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Yes, you can run up to two  Mitsumi's on the same interface card.  I

Bill, how are you running two on the same card? Thanks...

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 1199
  To: JOSEPH WOLFSON                           Date: 06/21/93 11:28a
Subj: Re: 7th guest trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <15 Jun 93  00:36:00>, Joseph Wolfson (1:374/31) writes:
 >Sears carries it for $59 at all it's stores......
You shouldn't spout information you don't know. Our Sears in Casper, Wyoming
wants $79, as I'm sure most do. Sears almost _always_ charges MSRP, or real
close to it. They must have made a mistake at yours, because they would never
sell it that cheap.


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 1200
  To: BRAD MARSH                               Date: 06/21/93 11:31a
Subj: Sony Drivers                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <15 Jun 93  15:43:02>, Brad Marsh (1:153/951) writes:
 >Any one have the latest CD drivers for the Sonys
I have version 1.27a. If you send me blanks 3 or 5" disk and $2, I will copy
it for ya. Do note, however, that some versions of their drivers will not
work with some of their drives. You also have to be careful to use v1.22a if
you are using a Soundblaster to control it.


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 1201
  To: BOB TROTMAN                              Date: 06/21/93 11:34a
Subj: 7th Guest...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <16 Jun 93  19:32:00>, Bob Trotman (1:369/32) writes:
 >The 7th Guest supports both of these video modes. It also needs a fast
 >computer like a 386/33/40, at least 512k on fast video board and a CDrom
 >that can transfer at least 150k per second. 4 megs of ram on the mother
 >board, and a sound card. This game isn't very demanding now is it?
To me it's not that demanding, but of course, working in a computer store
helps <g>. Basically, what you are saying is that if your system runs Windows
decently, it will run this game..


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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1202
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93 11:41a
Subj: trade??                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

wanted a used external cd rom drive.  want to trade a Canon photo copier
machine for it, model  pc-20.   in excellent condition.
leave  message here, or call bbs line   813-934-3307
thanks
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1203
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 06/24/93  1:51p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Another "cleaning out some of the stuff from my apartment so that I can
walk around without stepping on it" sale.

CDRoms for sale:

       CICA Windows (Dec)           $10.00
       US History                   $15.00
       Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00
       Battle Chess (not ehhanced)  $ 5.00
       Wing Commander I complete    $10.00
       Time Tables of History S+I   $15.00
       Ultima 1-6                   $20.00
       Toolworks game pack 1        $10.00
       Sherlock Holmes 1            $15.00
       Simtel 20 MSDos (Dec)        $10.00
       Masterpiece Library          $25.00
       Family Doctor                $25.00
       Greatest Books 150           $20.00
       NASA Voyager Image data set only
         (there are 12 of these, 3 for each planet voyager 1 and 2
          visited, 0% duplication of data between roms, over 7 GIG
          of image data, comes with disk containing software nedded
          to view images, which are in some strange NASA format, will
          sell set for $85)
       Garbo CD (MSDos/Mac)         $15.00
       Animals                      $20.00

Reply here or Netmail, whichever you prefer...


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From: EARL BONSER                            Number: 1204
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/24/93  7:36p
Subj: Re: Florida Lion's Den In               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Yes, I am....and I don't of any publisher "ASP" approved--For the most
part
-> I specialize in "XXX" CD's, and have only done one shareware disc and one
-> clipArt disc--The shareware disc we are working on now requires we peek
at
-> each file closely to see if it is forbidden on CD--Don't believe the
"ASP"
-> has made alot of noise about what we do---Have you heard something to the
-> contrary ? Are you affliated with "ASP" ?

There are some ASP approved vendors that produce CD's, but none approved for
an
ASP CD (yet, one will be out sometime this summer I believe).  There is a
lot
of chatter from ASP authors in the Fido ASP conference and on CompuServe
saying
that they don't want their programs distributed on a CD and that their DOC
files say so.  Some are even threatening to sue if they find their stuff on
a
CD.  Could just be a lot of big noise from little people that don't
understand
that distribution is what makes their $$ for them, but there may be one or
two
of them that are hard headed enough to follow up on their threats just to
look
like big shots to their fellow shareware authors.
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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 1205
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93 11:38p
Subj: NEC drive for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

NEC external CDROM CDR36 w/8bit controller...$190..........used

James F. Porter
[phone]
 ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Who said that Interstellar Empires don't exit?


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1206
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 06/25/93  2:50a
Subj: Animals Rom                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> If this is the San Diego Zoo: The Animals, I would like to offer you $17
>> delivered.  Please let me know...thanks !!

    Sorry, already sold for the full $20 + shipping.


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1207
  To: DENNIS STERNER                           Date: 06/25/93  2:52a
Subj: SELLIN' SOME ROMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> I'll offer $220 for everything.

    Sorry, already sold a bunch of the Roms.


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From: BOB BRYANT                             Number: 1208
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93  5:59p
Subj: Hello                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anybody over here in this here area?

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From: JOE MCDANIEL                           Number: 1209
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93  9:06p
Subj: animation                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone know of a good adult animations cd that is bbs ready. Im lookin
for
one that has nothing but dl's ... gl's .... and fli's.... Thanks and can send
catalogs to Big Joe's BBS  1628 N sorenson ln  Las Vegas, Nv 89115
                          Joe
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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 1210
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/24/93 12:46p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Dave!

In a message to Doug Carpenter <06/22/93> Dave Reed wrote:

DR> Hello Doug!

DR> Sunday June 20 1993, Doug Carpenter writes to Mark Abbacchi:

DR>  DC> This was an interesting message over on RIME:

DR> That's the down-side to accepting pre-orders for any product.  I like Bor
DR> approach:  Accept orders after the product is looking you in the face.  ;

DR> Later,

DR> Dave.

I completely agree with you Dave.. however, since we had spent THOUSANDS
of dollars on promotion and product with Mr. Armenia over the past 5 - 6
months.... we certainly didn't expect to get the shaft... we expected to
sell disks... make him money.. and us too... well.. we still want to
make money, obviously..  HE DOESN'T!  (Except other than the $800 that
he kept that we sent him.. and NEVER sent the disks we ordered!)

Mark



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From: GRAHAM KENDALL                         Number: 1211
  To:                                          Date: 06/24/93  8:47p
Subj: NEW NEC CD ROM FOR SALE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a new NEC CDR-25 CD ROM for sale.  The warranty card is still
unwrapped and can be sent in for a 2 year warranty.  I have a cable and
driver for a Mac, but this will also work on DOS machines(call NEC for a DOS
driver). Am asking $250.
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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 1212
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/24/93  9:08p
Subj: cd info                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JS>> JK> numbers for the whole CD...Total megs & Total # of

If you're using DOS 5 or 6, try "DIR/S <drive>" where <drive> is the letter
(and colon) of your CD drive.

Yup- but its S..l..o..w! I advised "JK" (sorry, I forgot his name) of a nice
utility on the Megademo cd called Checkcd that'll work faster with the same
results. :) BTW, I'm sure poeple are waiting for your first review using your
new cd "system", what cd are you going to be reviewing first? -Later
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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 1213
  To: BEN NATION                               Date: 06/24/93  9:18p
Subj: Hot Pix1                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BN>Sorry the cheapest I can get it is $75, everyone else is selling them
BN>around $100 plus shipping and handling. I can at least save you $25, and

Ben-

Thank. Mabey after the tape backup, video card & more memory. Must be pretty
"Raunchy" for $75! :) -Later

P.S. Tim- Sorry for the off topic chit-chat.

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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 1214
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/23/93  8:31a
Subj: CD WinBox User Manuale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC> DP> Damar Enterprises has just released a
DC>DP> professionally bound USER MANUAL to its
DC>DP> distributors and dealers.  This USER MANUAL covers
DC>DP> all the file descriptions
DC>DP> found on the BRAND NEW CD WinBox.  A complete FILE
DC>DP> INDEX allows you quick

DC>Oh yeah? <g>.  Will I get some when I guy the Winbox for resale from my
DC>distributor?

The manual is sold seperately from the actual disk.  Check with your
distributor
to see if they already carry it (sold seperately from us, perhaps bundled by
the
distributor...)  Let me know if you need some assistance getting them.

Dave Perkovich
Damar Enterprises Software
The CD PowerBox Guys!


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From: CHARLES HELD                           Number: 1215
  To: DON NAST                                 Date: 06/24/93 10:14a
Subj: Pas                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Have a friend who is having difficulty getting his Windows audio CD
>player to work with Pro Audio and Windows 3.1....for some
>reason the MCICDA.DRV driver supplied with windows does not
>work....is there another driver from PAS??

    Yeah, Media Vision has a BBS but I don't have the number handy.
 Call their Customer Service line (800-845-5870) and ask what the BBS # is.

    Charles
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From: CHARLES HELD                           Number: 1216
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/24/93 10:16a
Subj: Sellin' some roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Another "cleaning out some of the stuff from my apartment so that I can
>walk around without stepping on it" sale.
>
>CDRoms for sale:
>
>   Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00


    Is this the Windows version?  If so I will take it.

    Charles Held
    704-332-0092 (w 8:30-5:30 Eastern M-F)
    704-536-6991 (h)
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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 1217
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/25/93 12:32p
Subj: Computer trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Is anyone looking to buy a new computer AND have a CD-ROM for sale?I'll
 give a pretty good discount on the system.I will accept almost any drive.
 I will consider other trades too.

 Scott Petersen



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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 1218
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 06/25/93  6:04a
Subj: Re: CD Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KP> MK> 1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height
KP> Enclosure with
KP> MK>    power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for
KP> I/O, and 90-
KP> MK>    240 VAC universal input.  $215.00
KP> MK>
KP>
KP>   Do you have more than one of these drives ??  These are the drives
KP> that you
KP> can connect four all together, Right ?? I might be buying the 4 then.

Depending on how many drives you currently have connected to your SCSI
card, you could connect up to 6 of these drives.

205-837-5053


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 1219
  To: RUSTY MINNICH                            Date: 06/23/93  7:08p
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>BF>>PF>sysop of Sputnik BBS (4:802/7) <--

>BF>FidoNet uses zones up to 6....

 Where is zone 4 at?

South America - I just saw a posting from a BBS in Brazil that had a Zone 4
addreess, anyway....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 1220
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 06/23/93 11:36p
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>first of all you should have accepted my check, it is a business check

In 3 years of running Brice's Library, the ONLY check I ever had bounce was a
business check.

>when the ups guy told me that you would not take my check i said
>fine and handed him a hundred dollar bill..... he did not want to break it

Sounds like you should be complaining to the UPS person's manager....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 1221
  To: CHARLES HILT                             Date: 06/24/93  6:52p
Subj: CD-WORLD SPECIAL                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Hi, have an IBM (TBBS) bbs in Burbank, Ca. Hve beenwanting to support Mac
>users

There is at least one Mac support BBS Sysop that hangs out in the TBBS echo,
think he runs 16-line version....


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From: PAUL HAMMERSCHMIDT                     Number: 1222
  To: JIM SHARRER                              Date: 06/24/93  3:16a
Subj: Re: problem with a cd                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I overheard Jim Sharrer saying to Paul Hammerschmidt something about
Re: problem with a cd

Hi Jim Sharrer!
 -> Thanks Jim... I was kinda sure that's what the problem was. Where did
 -> you get yours cleaned "invasively"???

 JS> I did it.  Wasn't too hard really...just took a small air compressor
 JS> to it, and then cleaned the 'lens' of the laser.  It's worked fine ever
 JS> since.  Good luck with it.

Hmmmm.... I did the same, but without removing the drive. It's still acting
up. The CD has a few scratches on it, but that shouldn't matter (at least it
doesn't with Audio CD's....). Other CD's work just fine.

Thanks again,
Paul
... Commit the oldest sins the newest kind of ways.
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1223
  To: BRIAN WHEATLEY                           Date: 06/23/93  9:04p
Subj: Re: Mail List.                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Can you please put me on your Mailing List, Thanks.
Hi Brian, in September, we will be in computer show in Burnaby. You can come
and visit us there. TTYL

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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1224
  To: KEVIN WILLIAMS                           Date: 06/24/93  3:04p
Subj: Toshiba XM 3301b                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Kevin I responded only last night to your message and am very in
terested and would like for you to call me at home [phone].
That is the Toshiba 3301 cdrom that I am refering to.  Please call at
anytime someone will be home, either my wife or myself.
    I did try to call your BBS but it seems to be down as I am sure you


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From: CARL MONTANTE                          Number: 1225
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 06/24/93  7:17p
Subj: Sony 31A                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello,

I have a question for anyone familiar with the Sony CD-Rom Drives.
Can The Sony 31A Cd-Rom be daisy chained with a Sony 535 Drive?


                                Thanks
                                 Carl

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From: LUC SIENAERT                           Number: 1226
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/22/93  9:55a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jim Lambert wrote in a message to All:

 JL> If you are looking for prices on the latest CD-Roms, give us

If you deliver outside the USA:

Lucas Visions
Kerkstraat 34
B-2850 Belgium (Europe)

Greetings,
           Luc

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From: JOSH BERRY                             Number: 1227
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/24/93  7:45a
Subj: HELP... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to ALL, Shane Snyder said:
SS> I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM, which I can not load the driver for
SS> now that I
SS> have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER
SS> installed, it stilkl
SS> gives me the "incorrect DOS version" error.  Anyone have any
SS> ideas???
SS>                       Any info. will be GREATLY appreciated!
SS> Shane

        Where did you get your mscdex file? if you are using the one that
came with dos 6 then don't load setver, if you are using another figure out
what dos it is for than at the dos prompt type setver mscdex.exe 3.3, where
3.3 is the dos version that you want mscdex to think its running in.
later...
                                        Josh
P.S. be sure that in your autoexec.bat it reads c:\dos\mscdex, not
c:\windows\mscdex, or the directory where the mitsumi drives are.
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 1228
  To: RICHARD VONZEL                           Date: 06/24/93  2:05a
Subj: RE: OLD MITSUMI'S                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RV>   I have 2 internal of them for sale, 175.00 each.. You can netmail
RV> me   at 1:282/27.

Sorry Richard, but thats way to much for the older drives. The new 340ms
drives are selling for around $195.00

-Joe
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 1229
  To: CHRIS BARRETT                            Date: 06/22/93 10:06p
Subj: FLORIDA LION'S DEN IN                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->   By the sounds of this message you are a producer. Just curious, but
-> are you
-> and all you fellow producers ASP approved? That could explain why
-> these authors are upset. I can't recall ever seeing a ASP approved
-> sticker on any of the CDs I have, yet I see them on the 3.5s and
-> 5.25s all the time.
   To become ASP approved, the CD-ROM manufacturer must personally
contact EACH AND EVERY author on the disc. 4000+ authors at $1.00 per
author (stamps, envelope, return S.A.S.E., etc. - that's a LOW
estimate)... it may be prohibitively expensive for some.
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1230
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93  8:53p
Subj: CLUB EXPOSE'                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                     DISTRIBUTORS WANTED
                     -------------------

We're currently seeking distributors for CLUB EXPOSE' - our new
interactive adult CD ROM title.

Exclusive distribution rights will be granted for the following
regions:  U.S.A., Europe, Asia, Central/South America, Africa,
Canada, and Australia.  Distributors will be selected based on
their integrity and ability to move product.

For more information, call.

Tim Helton

Data Express, Inc.          Voice: 404-621-9210
6799 Windfaire Dr.          FAX  : [phone]
Norcross, GA 30093          FIDO :    1:133/515
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From: RICK KOSICK                            Number: 1231
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93  6:09p
Subj: LOOKING FOR CD'S?                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                   Looking for the latest in CD titles?

        We have over 85 of the latest titles in Laser Compact ROM
        disc's. Stop by and check out our on-line store containing
        descriptions, .DIR files, and even .GIF images of most titles!
        We currently run 15 of the latest available discs on-line, and
        this includes the lastest in adult titles, too!

        All cd's can be ordered on-line using most major credit cards
        and all orders are shipped same day (during business hours).

             SYSOPS! Take 10% off ANY title, even sale items!
          1 month free subscription to our BBS with ANY purchase!

                       COMPU-MALL! ON-LINE SERVICES
                        by Modern BBS Development

                   [phone] Main Data (2400 Baud)
                   [phone] Main Data (High Speed)
                   [phone] Voice


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From: DON RIEB                               Number: 1232
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 06/20/93  4:36a
Subj: CDROM CHANGER SOFTWARE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EEN-BY: 379/11 396/1 640/75
TK>         Good luck with your drive.   BTW do you have Pier 2 yet?
TK> anything worthwhile for bbs use?

Thanks for the information on that Ezrom, it looks like it will work for me.

I have Pier 1, but I keep all the cd's current.  I will check Pier 2 out
and if it is then I will order some.

I have seen a lot of the sysops getting the Monster disk (2 disk set) and
the Shareware Extravaganza (4 disk set) for there BBS's as it has no
duplicate files or duplicate file bases.   Each disk has different file
bases so if you have 2 or 4 cd rom drives online it comes out realy optimized
in space, so you don't wast any with duplicates.  Also then you have a
realy large amount of file bases that are not skimpy in size.  Download
CDROMCAT.ZIP from the SaveWare Computer Shopping BBS at 708-724-2427 or
FREQ it from 1:115/724.

Thanks again for your help!!

** Don Rieb **
President of SaveWare

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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1233
  To: MATT BEDTELYON                           Date: 06/21/93  7:59p
Subj: HITACHI 3500 INTERNAL                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

5
Matt I am very interested in the Hitachi cd-rom drive and was wondering
if you would take $80 plus s/h or trade for a logitech hand scanner.
If we do deal I wouold need some help on finding a SCSI con. for the
critter.  Thanks chad [phone] voice


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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1234
  To: KEVIN WILLIAMS                           Date: 06/21/93  8:02p
Subj: TOSHIBA XM 3301B                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

209/209 273/10 60
I would like to  know some details about this cd rom drive.
    speed, size, come with SCSI con., price you are looking for etc.
Please call me at home [phone]


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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1235
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/21/93  8:16p
Subj: TRADE FOR CD-ROM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

96/1 209/209 273/10 60
I have a LOGITECH HANDSCANNER that I would liketo trade for a cd-rom
drive (500+ms) or partial trade plus$ on a faster (350+ms) drive.
Please leave a message or call me at home at [phone]


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From: MATTHEW HUDSON                         Number: 1236
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93  8:18a
Subj: CD TRADE...                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 327/1 379/11 396/1 2615/2
I will trade one of the following for either CICA Windows (Apr 93) or
Simtel 20 (Apr 93)...

Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective Vol I
World Atlas Ver 3.2.1
Ultima VI & Wing Commander.

All the docs are included...

LtF,

Matthew Hudson @ 1:18/14.4

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From: CHRIS BARRETT                          Number: 1237
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/24/93  1:15p
Subj: Florida Lion's Den In                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Yes, I am....and I don't of any publisher "ASP" approved--For the
 > most part I specialize in "XXX" CD's, and have only done one
 > shareware disc and one clipArt disc--The shareware disc we are
 > working on now requires we peek at each file closely to see if it is
 > forbidden on CD--Don't believe the "ASP" has made alot of noise about
 > what we do---Have you heard something to the contrary ? Are you
 > affliated with "ASP" ?

    No, not at all. I was just curious to know if the recent court action a
few CD producers had been refering to was in anyway related to the ASP
society.

                                                        Chris

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From: TYLER EVERNDEN                         Number: 1238
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93  8:18p
Subj: For-Sale?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anybody got a good CD-ROM drive for sale cheap?

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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 1239
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 06/23/93  3:11p
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > VC> Wonderingwhat happened to your address so I could pay you for
 >  VC> the Cream of the Crop CD.
 >  VC> Or your phone number, if you take Vise/MC.

I can't mail you a check or postal money order to avoid the COD charge ?
I believe the CD was $19.95 + $2.90 for shipping - for a total of $22.85,
Is this okay ?

Vikki

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From: SAM FERTITTA                           Number: 1240
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/24/93  4:28p
Subj: Re: sellin' some roms                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Eric Bravick to All Users <=-

 EB> Another "cleaning out some of the stuff from my apartment so that I
 EB> can walk around without stepping on it" sale.

 EB> CDRoms for sale:

 Eric, I will take this....

 EB> Ultima 1-6                   $20.00

 And is this the San Diegos Animals, for Windows?


 EB> Animals                      $20.00

 Reply here, or call me at 716-383-0754, 5-10 e.s.t, thanks..
 Sam



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From: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                       Number: 1241
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 06/24/93 11:59p
Subj: Re: Pier 2????                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

That's pretty much an incredible story, but very believable. We need to fill
3 cd roms with BBS shareware, and was considering the Pier series. In fact,
if memory serves, didn't the Night Owls series come from Greg Armenia and
Richard something-or-other- but they split because of this type of occurance?
I wonder if a boycott of the Pier 1/2 CDs is in order....

I'm for capitalism and the free market - supply and demand, and your
situation is a textbook example of price fixing! No more Pier!

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From: NILE DHARAMCY                          Number: 1242
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/25/93  8:38p
Subj: Wanted: Cd-Roms                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy everyone,
        I buy cd-roms. Must see them operate. Will pay upto $ 150.

       Neil
       713-370-7816

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From: DONALD MACKAY                          Number: 1243
  To: SCOTT HUNSINGER                          Date: 06/25/93  9:37a
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Scott!

SH>CD's for sale:

SH>Wing Commander II Deluxe Edition

How much for the above?

ttyl /usr/dan
___
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From: DANIEL HALL                            Number: 1244
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/25/93 10:11p
Subj: adult interactive softwar               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

what is this ?


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From: DANNY TONG                             Number: 1245
  To: YANGKUN ZHANG                            Date: 06/21/93 12:02a
Subj: The 7th guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PJ> Is it a shareWare cd?
DT> No.  But you can buy it for under $50.
YZ> Where from?

I bought mines from Price Club for $49.  Costco has it for $45. The two
just merged to form Price Club/Costco.


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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 1246
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/24/93  6:37a
Subj: HELP... PLEASE!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER installed, it
 > stilkl
 > gives me the "incorrect DOS version" error.  Anyone have any
 > ideas???

DOS V6 has it's own MSCDEX.EXE Get rid or all other copies and use the DOS 6
version.. That should help! You should try to find the utility FIND I will
check your full HD for files.. The funny thing is that you can't "read" the
version # of the NEW MSCDEX.EXE with the LIST utility it appeared that
Microsoft encoded it??????????????  good luck..

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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 1247
  To: JIM TAYLOR                               Date: 06/24/93  6:44a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS REVIEW                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Go for it. If "we" users make reviews then maby if a product is "panned"
they'll upgrade the quality???

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 1248
  To: CHARLES STRUSZ @ 970/201                 Date: 06/25/93  7:42a
Subj: Pier 2 desc.,ra bbs                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CS>I'd like to freq those now!  What's the Magic Name?

 CONVDIRS.ZIP , it's a little util to convert FROM standard files.bbs
format TO:
        GT Power
        GAP
        WWIV
        QuickBBS
        Spitfire

...hope you can find it of as much use as I do!  Feel free to freq from
me (16.8 Dual) at 1:2601/566
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From: BILL GEE                               Number: 1249
  To: STEVE LEU                                Date: 06/25/93  8:51p
Subj: Wanted: Sony CDU-541                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SL>I'm looking for Sony CDU-541 internal SCSI drives (new or used).  Please
repl
SL>back if you have any for sale.

I bought mine at Computer Discount Warehouse for US$418.  800-795-4239.
Good service, well-informed phone rep.  I saw it in Computer Shopper for
US$399, but I don't remember the name of the place.  The CDW price is for
the bare drive - no host adapter, no drivers, no mounting kit, no bundled
applications.

Bill Gee
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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 1250
  To: WADE NORTON                              Date: 06/25/93  8:55a
Subj: CLIPART CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



WN>Mike,  I can't add much to your quest.  However, I too was dissapointed
with
  >Clipart Goliath.  I recently purchased Enclyclopedia of Clipart "PCX
  >Potpourri"
  >and it isn't much better.  To get the 300 DPI it appears we are going to
hav
  >to pay for it.

Thanks for the tip. I will let you know if I find anything worth having!
please do the same for me. I intend to find some decent clipart
somewhere, I just don't want to have to buy a bunch of stuff I could
never use. All you publishers out there, take head! WE WANT QUALITY
CLIPART FOR DTP WITHOUT A BUNCH OF UNUSABLE TRASH (75 DPI) AND DUPES!!!
 ■ QMPro 1.50 22-2345 ■ MSI HQ! BBS ■ 805-395-0650 Home of QmodemPro!


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 1251
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93  6:37a
Subj: Nautilus CD                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a cd called Nautilus CD which I would like to trade for almost
anything, the reason why I want to trade is because it's full of
digitized video and my cd player is to slow to handle it, plus I really
dislike having to deal with Windows 3.1
It's dated
March 1993 Vol3-3
Must run in Windows 3.1, also has a few .WAV's, .WRI's and some anotehr
neat demos!
                                  Thanks,
      All offers considered, if you want to just buy it, state your
price?!
                                  Sam Figueroa
Sam's Software
[phone]
Manchester's Best Shareware Distributer!!!

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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 1252
  To: TIM MUTH                                 Date: 06/25/93 11:28p
Subj: Re: modem                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TM> Chris:
 TM> I've picked up a USRobotics 14400 modem but i'm still dnloaading
 TM> at 2400.
 TM> Why?
 TM> Tim

   What's its access time and transfer rate?Note..this is CD-ROM echo.



... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: JASON HINES                            Number: 1253
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93  4:36a
Subj: CD WANTED                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm wanting an external CD ROM no slower than 500 MS for sale in the $150
price range. Please reply.

J
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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 1254
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/23/93 12:00a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Your ad is still not readable.  Each line appears to be shifted in a stagered
manner so it is broken up.


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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 1255
  To: BEN BARTON                               Date: 06/23/93 12:03a
Subj: WANTED PHILLIPS CM-100                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I do have a Philips CM-100 CD-ROM external drive complete with cable,
drivers, original box, and programming manual.  It has not been used very
much and is in excellent condition.  If you're interested, leave a message
here or call me at 719-495-0495, in the evening or weekends, Colorado time.


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From: AJ BROWN                               Number: 1256
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/25/93  5:18p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive For Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Everyone!

I have a Chinon SCSI Internal CDS-435 CD-ROM drive for sale. Avg. Access
time is around 340MS / 150 KB transfer rate. SCSI controller included,
original software, manual, and box. Around 7 months old. No longer have
a use for this fine drive. Asking $260.00 OBO (Originally $375.00) Still
under Chinon's 5 year guarantee. Reply in this echo, FidoNet 1:3616/60,
or my BBS [phone] - 24 Hrs. Thank you. :)

AJ Brown

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1257
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/25/93  9:56a
Subj: Re: PCX POTPOURRI                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <06-23-93 12:10> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> I'd like to know about the picture book, too, Lee.

Yup, the book has been subcontracted out, and it should be out this summer
(late)--It is one monumnetal task, but I did see the first 50 pages of the
book so far, and it looks dynamite ! Will let you know !

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1258
  To: JACK BROWN                               Date: 06/25/93  9:57a
Subj: Re: Nix pix                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <06-23-93 18:23> Jack Brown wrote:

JB>> A CD-ROM catalog put out by a local BBS indicated that the Nix Pix
JB>> disks are from the same company that published Busty Babes.  I knew
JB>> you published the latter - did you also publish the former?

No Babe, Windy City Fortress does the Nix Pix series (Out of Chicago).

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1259
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/25/93 10:06a
Subj: Re:   INFO WANTED!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <06-23-93 12:06> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> The Romulus seems to indicate they're available now; did you say it
BJ>> would be the end of July? What do you think the street price will be
BJ>> if MSRP is $129. ?

Don't know but they did say they had doubts that this type of project could
be done, and low and behold they did it--So I will also assume a hefty price
tag too--

-=>Lee<*=-

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From: ZACHARY ELWYN                          Number: 1260
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/25/93  1:19a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TW>ZE>I'm running a 486 33 VESA local bus w/ a cirrus logic 1MB video card,
TW>4MB of
TW>ZE>RAM, a Pro Audio Spectrum 16 all connected w/ a Seagate WREN 9 (2.2
TW>Gigabyte
TW>ZE>hard drive w/ a Adaptech 1542C SCSI II Controller.  The Demo will run
TW>only i
TW>ZE>MCGA mode, and the actual program hangs at the command line after
TW>starting t
TW>ZE>CD Audio section.  Anybody else have a similar problem??

TW>I assume you got the fix off of their BBS which allows VLB
TW>Cirrus cards
TW>to work?

TW> * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * A career is a job that takes about 20
TW>more hours a week.


TW>--- WM v3.00/91-0241
TW> * Origin: The Library BBS, Ft. Lauderdale, Fl 305-581-4983
TW>(1:369/14.0)

Well, actually, I didn't know there was a bug to fix, so thanks for the
info, I'll try and call them right away.
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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 1261
  To: IAN LEVSTEIN                             Date: 06/25/93  9:18a
Subj: Sony 31A & SBPro                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <21 Jun 93  04:46:00>, Ian Levstein (1:249/121) writes:
 >I'd like to hook up the audio output of my new Sony 31A to my
 >SoundBlaster Pro, but it seems that the audio cable connectors are not
 >compatible.  Any suggestions?
Take out the documtation (no, not the docs!), look at the pin outs for them
both, and try to wire up something. It won't look pretty, but hey.


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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1262
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93  9:45p
Subj: USED CD ROM DRIVES                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

i REALLY WOULD LIKE TO FIND SOMEONT TO TRRADE  A lOGITECH HAND SCCANNER
FOR a used cd rom drive with something of  a controler card.  Thee
drive can be old or new but would be interested in adding some$ to a
drive that has a faster speed and better than 150k transfer.  Please
call [phone]


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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1263
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93  2:34a
Subj: Cd drives, software, &c.                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600 Mastercard &
Visa accepted. Posted on 06/26/93, @ 02:07.
-------------------------------------------------------------- Tempra Media
Solutions from Mathematica                Price
-------------------------------------------------------------- Vision (great
for kids, w/GIF & SHOW)                     $53 Access (tool for loading
Kodak Photo images)              $23 Gif (tool for image editing & video)
                 $45 Tempra
 $61 Show (integtrate graphics w/audio, video, animation)     $109 Turbo
Animator                                           $174 Pro
                                   $291 Media Author
                   $585 CD-Maker
 $1,469 --------------------------------------------------------------
Gatekeeper by Firstlight                               Price
-------------------------------------------------------------- Gatekeeper
(multimedia presentation w/ video)             $85
-------------------------------------------------------------- Phillips
CD-ROM drives & bundles                       Price
-------------------------------------------------------------- internal
CD-ROM                                          $193 internal CD-ROM w/kit
                                $238 internal CD-ROM w/kit & bundle
                $315 external CD-ROM w/kit
$390 external CD-ROM w/kit & bundle                           $444 Explorer
internal bundle                                 $376 Revolution internal
bundle                               $433 Revolution-16 internal bundle
                     $458
-------------------------------------------------------------- Texel CD-ROM
drives                                    Price
-------------------------------------------------------------- internal
CD-ROM                                          $404 external CD-ROM
                                $501
-------------------------------------------------------------- Chinon CD-ROM
drives                                   Price
-------------------------------------------------------------- internal
CD-ROM 435                                      $316 external CD-ROM 435
                                $438 internal CD-ROM 535
                $401 external CD-ROM 535
$517 -------------------------------------------------------------- CD-ROM
software (w/ drive purchase)                    Price
-------------------------------------------------------------- Software
Toolworks Encyclopedia Illustrated               $30 Game Pack II
                                 $19 Publish It!
                 $17 Reference Library
 $17 Wing commander II/Ultima VI                               $16 Software
Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia                $34 Animals Multimedia
                                 $14 Deluxe Pack MPS (World/USA Atlas, Mavis
Beacon Teaches)   $34 World/USA Atals Multimedia Pack
  $15 Comptons Family Choice                                    $20
Micrografx Graphics Works LE for Windows                  $20 Selectware
Jukebox                                        $11 Mammals
                               $20 Nautilus Multimedia magazine
                $8
-------------------------------------------------------------- Prices &
spec's subject to change without notice. Best time to call: 7-10 AM & 9-12 PM
Mon - Fri, all day Sat & Sun (EASTERN)

===
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1264
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/25/93  8:01a
Subj:  ADULT CD PRICE$                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LN> TS>> regarding Nix Pix I, your reply seemed somewhat short. <g>.


I traded away my copy 'cuz I didn't even want it in the house.
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 1265
  To: SHANE SNYDER                             Date: 06/25/93 12:45a
Subj: HELP... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SS> that I have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER installed,
SS> it stilkl gives me the "incorrect DOS version" error.  Anyone have
SS>                      any ideas??? Any info. will be GREATLY

Did you make sure when you installed dos 6 that your command.com was not
read only and hidden?  If you didn't, that might be the problem.

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From: KEITH SHEEHAN                          Number: 1266
  To: ANDREA HEARN                             Date: 06/21/93 10:46p
Subj: FREE CD-ROM CATALOGS!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am interested in receiving one of your catalogs. Please send one to the
following address:

        Keith W. Sheehan
        539 Lake Park Dr.
        Addison, IL 60101

Thank You.



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From: KEITH SHEEHAN                          Number: 1267
  To: WADE NORTON                              Date: 06/21/93 10:59p
Subj: CLIPART CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Try KEY Clip art. It is designed by a professional clip art studio and can be
found at stores like Egghead, CompUSA, Electronics Botique & Babbage's. It
varys in cost between different places but you can get it for about $22 if
you look.

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From: KEITH SHEEHAN                          Number: 1268
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/21/93 11:04p
Subj: NEW CD'S FOR JUNE!!!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Do you 1) have a catalog? and 2) have any OS/2 shareware CD-ROMs? If so
please send me more information. My address is as follows:
        Keith Sheehan
        539 Lake Park Dr
        Addison, IL 60101

Thank You.



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From: VERNON MELTON                          Number: 1269
  To: JIM HUSBAND                              Date: 06/25/93  1:50p
Subj: Re: FOR TRADE - MAGAZINEI               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                -=> Quoting Jim Husband to Vernon Melton <=-

 JH> Does it simply translate typed text, or does it
 JH> also serve as a Language dictionary and/or Language tutor?
Jim,
    Thats OK.  It will translate word by word, i.e. highlight a word and it
will translate it.  Some what cumbersome but it works.  It also is a series
of dictionarys.  Hope this helps.  Now, how about that trade?
Later,
      Vernon Melton

... Two wrongs do not make a right, it takes three or more.
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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 1270
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93  8:06a
Subj: CD_ROM Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Both Models Include:  60 day Warranty, External DIP switches, 50 pin SCSI
  350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM
  installed.  Refurbished.  5.25 - HH Drive. 64k Buffer.

Still have a few left.

205-837-5053




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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1271
  To: CHARLES HELD                             Date: 06/25/93 11:15p
Subj: Sellin' some roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> >   Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00
>>
>> Is this the Windows version?  If so I will take it.

    Sorry, sold it.


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From: BRIAN NEWBERG                          Number: 1272
  To: LOOKIN FOR A SERVICE                     Date: 06/26/93  7:03a
Subj: Re: Cd rom burners                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a database that is approximately 600 megabytes when complete.  I am
looking for a service that will put it on CD rom for a reasonable price...
I will need between 20 to 100 copies of it depending on how much I market it.
I am willing to pay 50-60 dollars per copy to get them on CD rom but not
willing to buy 4600$ Rom drive....

If I don't find the service by november my customers will have to buy hard
drives... imagine thier suprise at needing a 350 meg (or larger) hard drive.

Brian Newberg
Call me voice @904-264-2372

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1273
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/27/93  6:41a
Subj: Cd drives, software, &c.                Refer: 4706
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Kodak Photo images)              $23 Gif (tool for image editing & vi
->                  $45 Tempra
->  $61 Show (integtrate graphics w/audio, video, animation)     $109 Tu
-> Animator                                           $174 Pro
->                                    $291 Media Author
->                    $585 CD-Maker

Patrick, every one of your ads is like this... I get dizzy trying to
read um...

YOUR LINE LENGTH IS TOO LONG.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1274
  To: BRIAN NEWBERG                            Date: 06/27/93  6:41a
Subj: Re: Cd rom burners                      Refer: 4715
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> I have a database that is approximately 600 megabytes when complete.

What kind of database?

-> looking for a service that will put it on CD rom for a reasonable pri
-> I will need between 20 to 100 copies of it depending on how much I ma
-> I am willing to pay 50-60 dollars per copy to get them on CD rom but
-> willing to buy 4600$ Rom drive....

Some manufacturing plants have minimum orders of 300 discs... A 300 disc
order with mastering would be about 2 grand.

tim
moderator
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From: DAN DOCHSTADER                         Number: 1275
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/26/93 12:27p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     Hi Mike, I need your business number. Thanks...

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1276
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 06/26/93  9:05a
Subj: Re: FLORIDA LION'S DEN IN               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> ->   By the sounds of this message you are a producer. Just curious, but
> -> are you
> -> and all you fellow producers ASP approved? That could explain why
> -> these authors are upset. I can't recall ever seeing a ASP approved
> -> sticker on any of the CDs I have, yet I see them on the 3.5s and
> -> 5.25s all the time.
> To become ASP approved, the CD-ROM manufacturer must personally
> contact EACH AND EVERY author on the disc. 4000+ authors at $1.00 per
> author (stamps, envelope, return S.A.S.E., etc. - that's a LOW
> estimate)... it may be prohibitively expensive for some.
Plus not every author wants to be ASP member. To me for a shareware author,
it is a great privilidge to distribute his/her program on CD-ROM at low cost
and a mass method. TTYL

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1277
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/26/93  9:51a
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: 06/28/93  6:52a                       Private: No

 TH> Without steps 2-4, a product won't be promoted.  If a product isn't
 TH> promoted, the product won't sell.  If the product doesn't sell, nobody
 TH> makes money.  If nobody makes money, what's the use?

Doesn't make any sense to me either.  Just thought it was an interesting
message....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1278
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/26/93  9:51a
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DR> That's the down-side to accepting pre-orders for
 DR> any product.  I like Boris' approach:  Accept
 DR> orders after the product is looking you in the
 DR> face.  ;-)

That is one reason I'm not taking preorders for Nightowl 9.  I have an order
in with a distributor, but they stated up front, they don't know what their
price is yet.  Reminds you of Nightowl 8, huh? <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1279
  To: MIKE MCGUIRE                             Date: 06/26/93 10:03a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MM> I just walked in on this, more info please...Phone
 MM> #, Payment Options, Address, etc.....

I have the Digital Dreams in stock for $28.  You caan order is by calling
800-547-7817.  We accept most plastic with no surcharges.  Or send a money
order to PCJ Computing, 323 Tn Nursery Rd., Cleveland, TN  37311.
Add $4 for shipping.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1280
  To: DOUG STRIEFLER                           Date: 06/26/93 10:14a
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DS> Does anyone know of any good deals on cd rom burners

 DS> preferably the Phillips model

How about $4,800?  I can get you one for that plus shipping and handling.
Let me know if interested.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1281
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 06/26/93 10:20a
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 KR> What exactly is "Dictionaries and Languages"?  Does it include a
 KR> translater program?

We have the Dictionaries and Languages in stock for $15.  It contains
dictionaries, thesauruses, word processors, style/syntax checkers,
glossaries, lessons in several languages, humorous glossaries, crossword
solvers, cryptogram solvers, industry specific spell checkers, latest
versions of the top shareware word processors, etc.  It has such items as
multilingual word processors, with verb/conjugators/translators for Czech,
Spanish, French, Italian, etc.  Have in stock if interested.  Give us a call
24 hours at 800-547-7817 to order or 615-339-0235.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1282
  To: JACK BROWN                               Date: 06/26/93 10:28a
Subj: Nix pix                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mix Pix is NOT from the same company that does Busty Babes...

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1283
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93 10:29a
Subj: Our pricing                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

We have the following new CDs in stock:

Digital Dreams     -  $28
Shareware Studio II  -  $23.95
Software Vault II    -  $23.95
Hot Pix 5         -   $28

We have similar pricing on many other titles.  Nightowl 8 is now only $26.
Pier 1 is $28.

Give us a call at 800-547-7817 to order.  No surcharges for credit cards.  We
ship within 24 hours on in stock items.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1284
  To: STEVE O'BRIEN                            Date: 06/26/93 10:36a
Subj: CD ROM FILE LISTINGS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SO>   I am looking for (among other things) a place (BBS; a disk; paper
 SO> (although paper wouldn't be the environmental
 SO> choice))  that has the lists
 SO> of most, some, one or two adult CD listings.  I
 SO> really cannot see it as a

I have file lists for a great majority of them and also for sale.  Call the
PCJ BBS at 615-478-2890 HST or 615-479-1047 v.32/14400.  They are only
available by calling this BBS.

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1285
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 06/26/93 11:12a
Subj: Cd rom discs to trade                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 HM> Hi everyone. I have a couple of XXX CD's that I would be willing
 HM> to trade.
 HM>       - Asian Ladies - Pretty new disc, only used 3-4 times.
 HM>       - Adult Reference Library - Also new with minimal use.

I'll offer $20 each+shipping if you decide you would sell.

 * MKRead v1.01 * Silly wabbit - QWKs are for kids


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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 1286
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 06/25/93 12:16p
Subj: .MODS, .VOCS, ECT                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Night Owl 5 has a fair chunck. Sound Sations yuck!

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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 1287
  To: KEVIN MARTIN                             Date: 06/25/93 12:21p
Subj: SLOW POST                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

6/25/93
Hi Kevin; Have you gotten my letter yet?

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From: DOUG STRIEFLER                         Number: 1288
  To: CHARLES STRUSZ                           Date: 06/25/93 11:54p
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Charles.

Thanks for your reply regarding CD rom burners

I have a few questions for you before I pursue this

further.

1. What does the 4700 price include and what else

will have to be purchased ?

2. What is the cost of blank cd's which can be used

in this unit ?

                   Awaiting your reply

                   Thanks        Doug


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From: ANDY YEE                               Number: 1289
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/26/93 11:06a
Subj: CD-Rom Special                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

still have any left??? if you do save me one and leave me a message so I can
send away the money order right away

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From: DON NAST                               Number: 1290
  To: CHARLES HELD                             Date: 06/26/93 11:13p
Subj: Pas                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for the 800 number for PAS   >don<
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 1291
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 06/26/93 12:36p
Subj: RE: DIGITAL DREAMS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> > I only mention this because I am looking for a Canadian CD
-> distributor > that desires to compete with the Americans. The only
-> one I have found to > date is Vince Sorensen (sp?) in Regina.
-> Unfortunately, he does not offer > anything I am currently looking
-> for.
    That's about to change, Don. I'll be sending you some information
right after the Toronto Comdex.
    Vince
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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 1292
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/26/93  3:07p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EB>       CICA Windows (Dec)           $10.00
EB>       US History                   $15.00
EB>       Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00
EB>       Battle Chess (not ehhanced)  $ 5.00
EB>       Wing Commander I complete    $10.00
EB>       Time Tables of History S+I   $15.00
EB>       Ultima 1-6                   $20.00
EB>       Toolworks game pack 1        $10.00
EB>       Sherlock Holmes 1            $15.00
EB>       Simtel 20 MSDos (Dec)        $10.00
EB>       Masterpiece Library          $25.00
EB>       Family Doctor                $25.00
EB>       Greatest Books 150           $20.00
EB>       NASA Voyager Image data set only
EB>         (there are 12 of these, 3 for each planet voyager 1 and 2
EB>          visited, 0% duplication of data between roms, over 7 GIG
EB>          of image data, comes with disk containing software nedded
EB>          to view images, which are in some strange NASA format, will
EB>          sell set for $85)
EB>       Garbo CD (MSDos/Mac)         $15.00
EB>       Animals                      $20.00

I'll offer you a trade.  1 brand new Quantum LPS 240 meg SCSI drive
w/full warranty for all the above...

james
813-345-7297
 ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ --T-A+G-L-I+N-E--+M-E-A+S-U-R+I-N-G+--G-A+U-G-E--


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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 1293
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 06/26/93  3:08p
Subj: Cheap CD-ROM Drives                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TB> I have some used Hitachi 3500 internals for $130 each.
TB> Controller cards are $60 that will run up to 4 of these drives.

I thought these controllers would handle EIGHT of the drives?
 ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ Who said that Interstellar Empires don't exit?


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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 1294
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/26/93  4:07p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike, I know you weren't interested in the hard drive trade for the
Adult CDROM's before.

Would you be interested in a 1.1 gigabyte 4mm SCSI Tape backup?
 ■ OLX 2.1 TD ■ FORMATING  Cyl 001  HD 05


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From: BOB SPILLERS                           Number: 1295
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 06/26/93  7:11p
Subj: Re: Which Is Best?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EP>                                                drop in CD....close
lid...pu
EP>                                                in drive

EP>That's about all I can think of.....maybe someone can add (or delete) for
yo

EP>... Anything unsecured is mine.  Anything I can pry loose is not secured.
EP>___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

EP>---  T.A.G 2.6e
EP> * Origin: The Outland Cary,N.C. [phone] 1:151/147 (1:151/147)


Thanks a lot Eddie. I now know more than I did when I sent the message.
You answered it just the way I need to keep me from getting confused. It
won't be long before I have me a CD Rom.     ITKU

                                      RwS

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 1296
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93 10:51p
Subj: Digital dreams for sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Digital Dreams for sale
NOT the Mchenry version, this is the ERO TEK version.
anyway, it is an excellent adult CD disk...perfect condition.
25.00 OBO includes shipping!


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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 1297
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93  8:24a
Subj: NO 9.0 is HERE!                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: [phone]
        $49.00         International 314-521-4862     $49.00

************* NIGHT OWL VERSION 9.0 IN STOCK AND SHIPPING *************


Don't be the last on your block to get Night Owl 9.0! If you snooze
you lose in the "who's got the newest shareware on their BBS" business
nowadays... so call The MARKetplace now and reserve your copy...
You'll have your copy of the MOST popular shareware disk in the
world before ANYONE in your area!

Order now at the price below, and receive the NEW Shareware Studio II
for $14.95 and get them both shipped OVERNIGHT EXPRESS for the price of
regular shipping ($5.00)!

If you don't buy from The MARKetplace... you'll be waiting tooooooo
long to get your NEW NIGHT OWL 9.0!

All 1993 files... 670+ megs... over 4700 New files... Updated Search
Engine... just simply the best release yet from one of the best
companies for Shareware CDROMs!

*********************************************************************
   VISA          1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M        MASTERCARD
              ---- 100s of Titles Available ----



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From: RICH JACKSON                           Number: 1298
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 06/25/93 11:26a
Subj: Cd rom discs to trade                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Hi everyone. I have a couple of XXX CD's that I would be
 > willing to trade.
 >        - Asian Ladies - Pretty new disc, only used 3-4 times.

Howard, I have Loom, and Where in the World is Carmen Sandeigo that I'll
trade to you for your copy of Asian Ladies...


Laters !
Rich

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From: HOWARD MALKIEL                         Number: 1299
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93 11:10a
Subj: Cd's for sale or trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have three recent CD's for sale or possible trade.

       Asian Ladies

       Adult Reference Library

       Digital Dreams

     -- All Three for $90, icluding shipping costs.

     -- Will consider trades

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From: REN JUST                               Number: 1300
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/25/93  6:52a
Subj: LINUX CD-ROMs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


LINUX AND INTERNET FILES ON CD-ROM

LINUX, a UNIX operating system workalike now available
on CD-ROM.  Includes GNU C/C++ compiler, X-Windows,
TCP/IP, sound card support and much more.  Only $49.95.

Also CD-ROMs available with source code and applications
from internet servers for DOS, UNIX, Amiga, C and Mac.
Call or write for listing.

To receive your LINUX CD-ROM call and order with your
charge card

or send $49.95 + $3.00 S/H (CA residents add 7.50% tax) to:

Just Computers!
PO Box 751414
Petaluma  CA 94975-1414

Voice 707-769-1648
FAX   [phone]

Internet: [e-mail] OR [e-mail]

Visa and MasterCard gladly accepted.


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1301
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  1:01a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $39.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - MONSTER MEDIA '93'   PRICE - $29.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $30.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - WINBOX - GAMEWARE - CD POWERBOX    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $15. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $55. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
                     24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO


Boris Osadciw

... Oh never mind!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1302
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  2:24a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $39.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - MONSTER MEDIA '93'   PRICE - $29.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $30.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - WINBOX - GAMEWARE - CD POWERBOX    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $15. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $55. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
                     24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 1303
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/21/93  9:33a
Subj: Bb/ppg                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JM>> Powerpak Gold, and who needs to hear from you about the MWARS_20
JM>> thing, is Westland Computers, of Westland, MI

LN>Know way to track them because I don't sell direct to them--If you come
LN>across them again, call me with the phone number--
LN>Thanks !

You're very welcome, I'm sure.

Funny you should ask!  When I go to a big flea market like that one, I'm in
the habit of carrying a large bag in which to collect my new "treasure",
formerly somebody else's trash, usually.  When I cleaned out that bag just
this morning, I found their business card.  I also remembered I had not yet
filled in the registration slip.  I've now done that, and have sent you that
business card as well.  Must have been some ESP working or someting.  Watch
the mailbox.

You might have eventually discovered a trick the rest of us have been using
for years ... calling for long distance information.  <g> Or, to be topical,
using the Business Phone directory on CD-ROM.

Regards,

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

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From: PATRICK SHEN                           Number: 1304
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93  4:11p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have following CD-ROMs for sale.  All CD-ROMs are in New Condition. Add
$3 for UPS or Priority Mail shipping.

Shareware Bonanza.  3 CD set of Sharewares.  Over 20,000 programs.  More
than 3 Gigabytes of files.  Largest collection ever!  Every category
covered.  Great for BBS use. (BBS ready)         --------------  $50.00

ChessMaster 3000  MPC.  The best chess program in the world.  Moves spoken
in five different notations.  Photo realistic boards and pieces in 256
color 3D.  Excellent for beginner or master.  With all original manuals and
Registration card.                    -------------  $30.00

Wing Commander/Ultima VI.  Get 2 award winning games on one excellent CD
Space simulation and Adventure.  With all manuals and Registration card.
                                             ------------------  $34.00

Mixed-up Mother Goose MPC.  Sierra combines master storytelling with the
classic rhymes to create this children's adventure game.  Children learn
early reading skills and get introduced to the world of computers.
                                          ---------------------  $25.00

Shareware Overload.  Collection of 6100+ Sharewares.  550 MB of Games,
Windows, Business, Sound/Music and much more.      ------------  $20.00

Deathstar Arcade Battles.  The most exciting arcade action and other games
of all time.                           ------------------  $18.00

SelectWare System.  The Ultimate Software Demo System.   ------  $10.00

If you are interested, please reply here to contact me through CompuServe
or InterNet.

Patrick Shen InterNet: 72072,[e-mail]

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From: CHRIS BARRETT                          Number: 1305
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 06/26/93  4:00p
Subj: FLORIDA LION'S DEN IN                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >    To become ASP approved, the CD-ROM manufacturer must personally
 > contact EACH AND EVERY author on the disc. 4000+ authors at $1.00 per
 > author (stamps, envelope, return S.A.S.E., etc. - that's a LOW
 > estimate)... it may be prohibitively expensive for some.

    Ouch! That would definitely hurt the old profit margin! I was just
curious about it.

                                                    Chris

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From: SCOTT PETERSEN                         Number: 1306
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93 11:00p
Subj: NEC and Hitachi                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   Does anyone know if you can run two different kinds of CD-ROM drives
  on the same system?I would like to have a NEC or other fast speed drive
  for personal use and a Hitachi or other slower drive for a BBS.

  Scott

  P.S.  I do multi-task...if interested,and I'll be running OS/2 2.1 also.



... SENILE.COM found . . . Out Of Memory . . .
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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 1307
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/28/93 12:14p
Subj: Re: Cd-Rom Catalog                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> the CD-Rom business right now.  I sent you a catalog yesterday.  You
> should probably get it before this message. Thanks for your interest.
Jim, Can you send one to me..I just got a CD-ROM for my BBS and like to see
what's available...
Dial-Page, Inc.
Att: "Manny"
3638 West Flager Street
Miami,FL 33135-1074

Thanks

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From: BRIAN NEWBERG                          Number: 1308
  To: CHARLES STRUSZ                           Date: 06/27/93 12:19p
Subj: CD Rom Burners....                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a service.  I have a large database that is need of an
affordable method of small scale distribution.  I have been requiring
customers to  buy a large hard drive to house the database on.  Perhaps you
know of someone/where I can get this stuff produced at.

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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 1309
  To: MIKE PETRO                               Date: 06/27/93  9:30a
Subj: CLIPART CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > QUALITY
 > CLIPART FOR DTP WITHOUT A BUNCH OF UNUSABLE TRASH (75 DPI)
 > AND DUPES!!!

Did you guys look at the Corel Draw CD's ?

Vikki

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1310
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/28/93  6:55a
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: 4723
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->  DS> Does anyone know of any good deals on cd rom burners
->
->  DS> preferably the Phillips model
->
-> How about $4,800?  I can get you one for that plus shipping and handl
              ^^^^^
That's a heck of a buy... This time last year a one-off machine with
software cost about 8 grand.

tim
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From: JOE MCDANIEL                           Number: 1311
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93  9:06p
Subj: ANIMATION                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

75/70 290/627 396/1 640/75
Does anyone know of a good adult animations cd that is bbs ready. Im lookin
for
one that has nothing but dl's ... gl's .... and fli's.... Thanks and can send
catalogs to Big Joe's BBS  1628 N sorenson ln  Las Vegas, Nv 89115
                          Joe
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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 1312
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/24/93 12:46p
Subj: WEEKLY SPECIALS!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

640/75
Hello Dave!

In a message to Doug Carpenter <06/22/93> Dave Reed wrote:

DR> Hello Doug!

DR> Sunday June 20 1993, Doug Carpenter writes to Mark Abbacchi:

DR>  DC> This was an interesting message over on RIME:

DR> That's the down-side to accepting pre-orders for any product.  I like Bor
DR> approach:  Accept orders after the product is looking you in the face.  ;

DR> Later,

DR> Dave.

I completely agree with you Dave.. however, since we had spent THOUSANDS
of dollars on promotion and product with Mr. Armenia over the past 5 - 6
months.... we certainly didn't expect to get the shaft... we expected to
sell disks... make him money.. and us too... well.. we still want to
make money, obviously..  HE DOESN'T!  (Except other than the $800 that
he kept that we sent him.. and NEVER sent the disks we ordered!)

Mark



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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1313
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 06/26/93 12:58p
Subj: cd info                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JS> review using your new cd "system", what cd are you going to be r
 JS> first? -Later


Actually I've received *TWO* CDs for review: Pork-Ware I from Mike
Shannon and Digital Dreams from Jim Lambert. I've been at it since
Thursday night and it'll take me the greater part (if not all) of the
weekend to finish data gathering. THEN I'll have to write it all up for
posting. I went back and updated my "names" data base - now have 47612
file names in it.

This isn't as easy as it sounds...and I'm working with a 486/66!!  Watch
for at least part of the reviews to appear in next weeks posts (unless
the sky falls in (:> ) I'm anxious to know what folks on the echo think
about my procedure and hopefully be willing to help me make it better.
Cheers for now!!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1314
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 06/26/93  1:06p
Subj: CD WinBox User Manuale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DP> DC>DP> professionally bound USER MANUAL to its
 DP> DC>DP> distributors and dealers.  This USER MANUAL covers


Does this say how to get the "view file" function to work? I can see
inside the ZIPped file but when I try to view a .TXT file (e.g.
READ.ME), the viewer just aborts to a minimized icon that I can only
move or close. Any suggestions?
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1315
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/26/93  1:08p
Subj: Computer trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SP>   Is anyone looking to buy a new computer AND have a CD-ROM for
 SP> sale?I'll


Let me know if this works!! I have a *NICE* 286 system I'd love to trade
for a fast CD-ROM drive.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1316
  To: JIM TAYLOR                               Date: 06/26/93  1:10p
Subj: Digital Dreams Review                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TH> -> Let me know if you like this type of review. I will try to ke
 TH>
 TH> We love it... Unbiased product reviews are always welcome.


I agree! The more reviews the better. My own review of DD is on the way
(likely next week, at least in part.) Keep it up!!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1317
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/26/93  1:02p
Subj:    INFO WANTED!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LN> hefty price tag too--


Uuuggghhhh!!!  I'd give you my "sob story" but it's inappropriate for
here. I just hope I can afford the thing when it comes to market.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1318
  To: PAUL HAMMERSCHMIDT                       Date: 06/26/93  1:13p
Subj:  problem with a cd                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PH> up. The CD has a few scratches on it, but that shouldn't matter
 PH> least it


I hate to be a pessimist but some drives just flat won't read some CDs
for unknown reasons. Even if the drive used to read the CD but now it
won't, you may be SOL. It happened to a friend of mine and *NOTHING*
(even having the drive overhauled) helped. Meanwhile, other drives
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 1319
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 06/26/93  5:34a
Subj: Re: Cd rom discs to trade               Refer: NONE
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On 23 Jun 93  08:49:00, I heard Howard Malkiel shout to All:

HM> Hi everyone. I have a couple of XXX CD's that I would be willing to
trade.
HM>        - Asian Ladies - Pretty new disc, only used 3-4 times.
HM>
HM>        - Adult Reference Library - Also new with minimal use.
HM>
HM> Let me know what you have to trade, and we'll see if we can hook up.
HM>

Would be interested in doing some trading with Ya...   I have the ADULT Disk
Volcano, If you are interested ?  Is the Adult Reference Library a XXX disk ?

and if so what does it have Just .GIF's ?


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1320
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93 10:24p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9: $45!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS!   NOW TAKING RESERVE ORDERS FOR THE LATEST
AND GREATEST NIGHT OWL OF ALL . . .
                                    . . . N  I  G  H  T      O  W  L
                                              |   |        +=======+
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                                              |   |        ||     ||
SPECIAL EARLY BIRD OFFER                  ====|===|====    +=======|
------------------------                      |   |               ||
Order before July 1, and                                          ||
receive your choice of:                       +-----+             ||
                                              | $45 |
    . Software Vault 2                        +-----+
    . Shareware Studio 2
    . Powerpak 3.0
    . Night Owl 7 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $15 additional!

or  . Night Owl 8 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $25 additional!

CALL TO RESERVE YOUR COPY TODAY! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-800-767-1284
OPERATORS (Rainie & I) ARE STANDING BY!   CARDS NOT CHARGED UNTIL SHIPMENT.

***************************************************************************
Plus, all Starvector customers between now and July 17th will automatically
be entered in our drawing for a FREE PIER 2 shareware CD!  Drawing will be
held on Monday, July 19th, with the WINNER ANNOUNCED ON RIME AND FIDONET!
***************************************************************************

----- NO PURCHASE NECESSARY -------- GREAT COMPANION FOR NIGHT OWL 8! -----

+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| To enter Starvector's PIER 2 GIVEAWAY, simply fill out a postcard with  |
| your name, address, and phone number, and mail it to:  Starvector       |
| Software * PO BOX 8160 * Yakima WA 98908.  All entries must be received |
| by Saturday July 17th to qualify.  Entry into this giveaway will be     |
| automatic for all Starvector customers placing orders between June 22,  |
| and July 17th.  One entry per person please.  Drawing held July 19th.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1321
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93 10:24p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD'S 1 of 2                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 June 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 6/26
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........19.00    MIDI Music Shop...............31.00
 7th Guest (Unbelievable!).....55.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Monarch Notes.................64.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 1...18.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...43.00
 American Business Phonebk 2...28.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Amiga AB20....................16.50    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Mother of All Clipart (New!)..24.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.50    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.50    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....30.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    National Business Directory...39.00
 Audubon's Birds...............27.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............27.00    National Parks................32.00
 Barney Bear School or Space...22.00    Night Owl 4.2.................22.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 5.0.................23.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 6.2.................24.00
 Bible Library.................31.00    Night Owl 7.0.................25.00
 Bibles & Religion.............15.00    Night Owl 8.0.................33.50
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 9.0 (Pre-orders!)...45.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 8/9 2-Pak...........70.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....19.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Business Master...............20.00    North American Fax Book.......49.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 California Collection.........17.00    Original Shareware 1992.......18.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...25.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    Our Solar System..............15.00
 CD PowerBox...................23.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....33.00
 CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC-SIG #10....................27.00
 CD-ROM Grab Bag (4 CD's)......29.00    PC-SIG #12....................28.00
 CD Grab Bag (1 CD)............19.00    PC Gameroom...................28.50
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........24.00    Phoenix 3.0...................19.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Pier 1........................29.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....54.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............45.00
 Clipart Galore................30.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Clipart Goliath...............15.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (New!)......24.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........29.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............15.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........125.00
 Complete Bookshop.............15.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Composer Quest................38.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........34.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency...109.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....79.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....79.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Conan the Cimmerian...........35.00    Publisher's Paradise (New!)...35.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....39.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........29.00    Reader's Library..............31.50
 Crossword Cracker.............24.50    Reference Library.............27.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....38.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...43.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......15.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....28.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Desktop Bookshop (New!).......28.50    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 Dictionaries & Languages......15.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Shareware Online..............29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1322
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93 10:24p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD'S 2 of 2                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 June 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 6/26
 **************************************************************************
                                   2 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Overload............15.00
 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Studio 1............21.00
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Shareware Studio 2 (New!).....27.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......28.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Encyclopedia of Sound (New!)..22.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Font Master 2.................28.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 2...........29.50
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Software Vault 1..............25.00
 Game Arena (New!).............19.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....29.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..29.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Sound Sensations..............15.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    SoundWAV (New!)...............29.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Giga Games (New!).............24.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Space Quest IV................25.00
 Global Explorer (New!)........96.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Street Atlas USA..............88.00
 Grolier's Ill. Ency. 2.0......39.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........49.00    Super CD 2 (New!).............29.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......49.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....18.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...27.00    Super Games For Windows.......18.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............27.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................15.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.50
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Technotools...................15.00
 House of Games................29.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..32.00
 Illustrated Holy Bible........49.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Too Many Typefonts............15.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Total Baseball................29.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Trump Castle..................33.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........19.00    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    VGA Spectrum 1................17.00
 King's Quest V................25.00    VGA Spectrum 2................25.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    Visions of Saturn (New!)......25.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........27.50    Vital Signs...................39.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....19.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Library of the Future #1......54.50    Windoware.....................15.00
 Lion's Share..................27.00    Windows 1993..................28.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Windows Shareware Gold........37.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........39.00    Wing Commander II Deluxe......58.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Magnum One Shareware..........29.00    WizPak........................17.00
 Manhole.......................37.00    World Atlas MPC...............29.00
 Marketing Master 1992.........19.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............35.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak (New!).....47.00
 Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00    Wrath of the Demon............38.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1323
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93 10:24p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICES                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 June 1993                ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 6/26
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 Animation Fantasies 1.........29.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Animation Fantasies 2.........29.00    Porkware 2 (New!).............37.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Busty Babes...................33.00    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........29.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Exotic Girls (Closeout).......25.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........59.00
 Giffy Gold ("R"-rated)........39.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................34.50    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................34.50    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................34.50    Storm 2.......................30.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............34.50    Storm 3.......................31.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......28.00    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Swimwear & More (New!)........29.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....65.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).65.00    Tropical Girls (Closeout).....25.00
 PC-PIX 1......................30.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 PC-PIX 2......................30.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 PC-PIX 3......................30.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: BILL STRANGE                           Number: 1324
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 06/27/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: Free CD-Rom Catalogs!               Refer: NONE
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Thanks Jim for the catalog. I had it sitting on my wrkbench when I got back
from vacation. Thats the fastest response I think I have ever gotten from the
echos. I will be getting an order from you asap. And i'm sending a local
distributor your way as well... thanks again
Bill Strange

Your willing to pay what?

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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 1325
  To: EARL BONSER                              Date: 06/27/93 10:47p
Subj: Florida Lion's Den In                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

|EB> that distribution is what makes their $$ for them, but there may be one|
|EB> of them that are hard headed enough to follow up on their threats just |
|EB> like big shots to their fellow shareware authors.                      |
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Only if they have a Day Job!  I mean if these guys are so small minded
as to not know how their programs are best marketed......then they
must not really be making any $$$ from their works with or without CD
distribution.

Think of this.....how many people do you know that purchase Shareware
CD roms do not call BBS's or other Information services that Shareware
files may be available?  If the answer is one or more.....then I
believe the producers of shareware software should be fighting to get
their works included in the best selling CD's.

I am sure that some of the vendors here that also sell their products
with advertisements placed in Computer Shopper and other computer
related periodicals can atest to hundreds.

(My possibly unwanted Opinion)
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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 1326
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 06/27/93 11:08p
Subj: Old Mitsumi's                           Refer: NONE
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|JH> I thought the older drives was all the same anyway.                    |
|JH> 600ms or 800ms still very slow for todays standards.                   |
|JH> I guess your not willing to sell for $90.00 huh?                       |
|JH> let me know if you happen to change your mind..                        |
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No not likly....I didn't purchase them to sell.  $90 may be a good
price for a used Mitsumi LU002 but a new one at $110 is a bargain.
Again I repeat.....I am not selling any Drives at This Time.
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From: DARIN CELINO                           Number: 1327
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 06/27/93 11:19p
Subj: Which Is Best?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

|EP> Caddyless:                                                             |
|EP>        -just drop the CD into the drive        -always handling CD's   |
|EP>        -no caddy to fool with or buy           -2 hand operation...push|
|EP>                                                 drive slides out...lift|
|EP>                                                 drop in CD....close lid|
|EP>                                                 in drive               |
|EP>                                                                        |
|EP> That's about all I can think of.....maybe someone can add (or delete) f|
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All I can add is.....the caddyless drives, at least Mitsumi, don't
have the problem of sucking in dirt and dust that some of the caddy
type drives have.
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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 1328
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 06/27/93 10:59a
Subj: Cd's for sale or trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (26 Jun 93) Howard Malkiel wrote to All...
 HM> I have three recent CD's for sale or possible trade.
 HM>        Asian Ladies
 HM>        Adult Reference Library
 HM>        Digital Dreams
 HM>      -- All Three for $90, icluding shipping costs.
 HM>  * Origin: DSC (Datamax/Satalink Connection) * 215-443-9434

  Hello Howard.  I am intrested in purchasing the set of CDs you have
  listed above.  Will offer $65.oo including shipping.  Payment by US
  Postal Money Order.  Lets get it on, and make it a done deal!

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 1329
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/23/93 12:21p
Subj: sellin' some Roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EB>Another "cleaning out some of the stuff from my apartment so that I can
EB>walk around without stepping on it" sale.

EB>CDRoms for sale:

EB>       CICA Windows (Dec)           $10.00
EB>       US History                   $15.00
EB>       Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00
EB>       Battle Chess (not ehhanced)  $ 5.00
EB>       Wing Commander I complete    $10.00
EB>       Time Tables of History S+I   $15.00
EB>       Ultima 1-6                   $20.00
EB>       Toolworks game pack 1        $10.00
EB>       Sherlock Holmes 1            $15.00
EB>       Simtel 20 MSDos (Dec)        $10.00
EB>       Masterpiece Library          $25.00
EB>       Family Doctor                $25.00
EB>       Greatest Books 150           $20.00
EB>       NASA Voyager Image data      $10.00 /ea.
EB>         (there are 12 of these, 3 for each planet voyager 1 and 2
EB>          visited, 0% duplication of data between roms, over 7 GIG
EB>          of image data, comes with disk containing software nedded
EB>          to view images, which are in some strange NASA format, will
EB>          sell set for $85)
EB>       Garbo CD (MSDos/Mac)         $15.00
EB>       Animals                      $20.00

EB>Reply here or Netmail, whichever you prefer...


EB>--- DCI/Chauncy 0.7a
EB> * Origin: Zero Tolerance -=- [phone] (1:377/53.0)
 I'll take Microsoft Bookshelf 92, is that the one which has all the
 dictionaries and thesaurus's???  I would also like to know more about
 the US history like megs and whatever?
        Do I have to have to run Windows to run these two?
I have a slow cd rom but still would like them, esp. Bookshelf, what are
the megs on it !
         Sam's Software
         Sam Figueroa
         [phone]
                                        Thanks,
        Very Interested, if these titles are gone, I might want some
        others, do these include manuals and sort!
                                Sam Figueroa


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1330
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/27/93  2:23p
Subj: OUR TRADE                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

It is now Sunday 6-27-93 and I have not received the CD-Rom Private
Collection II that you were to mail 8 days ago by priority mail.  I KNOW you
have gotten my Physical Therapy disc that I sent by priority mail, so there
is no reason for you to not have cross shipped as we agreed.  I can only
fathom 2 reasons I have not gotten my disc.

#1-You waited till receiving my disc before shipping. #2-You have no
intention of shipping my disc and are ripping me off.

Neither of the above is acceptable.  I expect my disc here no later that
6-31-93, and a public apology.  I did keep copies of your posts and your
address.  Take care of this immediately.

<MB>

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From: MIKE ROSE                              Number: 1331
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93  9:28a
Subj: SONY CD ROM FOR SALE                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sony CDU-31A internal CD ROM unit. Complete with everything needed,
including controller card, cables, sound cables, manual, driver and
installation software, plus the World/USA Atlas pack CD ver 3.0. This
unit is in perfect working order. (Plays music CD's too)

   Data Transfer Rate
Sustained rate    = 150 Kbytes/sec
Burst rate        = 2.1 Mbytes/sec

     Access  Time
Full Stroke       = 0.95 sec (typical)
Average (random)  = 0.49 sec (typical)

$300.00 for all. If intersted, post here, or call:
Mike Rose
7 Reyburn Dr
Henderson, Nv 89014
702-897-2500

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 1332
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/25/93  1:38p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-sale or trad               Refer: NONE
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MB>Physical therapy is a very good general mix-up of different rez gifs

Thanks for the info.  I am going to "go for" this trade if my other
offer falls through...   Thanks Again!     Shane
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 1333
  To: STERLING PRICE                           Date: 06/25/93  1:40p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-sale or trad               Refer: NONE
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SP>  SS> I'm interested, but I don't know anything about this CD..?  Is it
all
SP> Hi Shane...OK, here's the lowdown on Physical Therapy:

Thanks Sterling,  I just went ahead with an offer for another trade,
however, if this falls through we have a deal...  I'll let you know
either way.     Thanks,    Shane
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 1334
  To: TODD VIERLING                            Date: 06/27/93  4:27p
Subj: Re: HELP... please!!!                   Refer: NONE
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TV> SS> I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM, which I can not load the driver for now that
TV> SS> I have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER installed, it

TV>Which driver can you not load? the ???.SYS driver, or the MSCDEX.EXE
TV>driver? Remember that MSCDEX comes with DOS 6 and you should not use an

Thanks for the info. Todd.  You are right, it was the older version of
MSCDEX that was giving me problems.  I keep my device drivers in a BIN
directory, so I wasn't able to utlize the new drivers...   Now i've
updated the drivers and everything seems to be running smoothly.
                            Thanks,     Shane
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 1335
  To: JOSH BERRY                               Date: 06/27/93  4:28p
Subj: HELP... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
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JB>SS> I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM, which I can not load the driver for
JB>SS> have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER

JB>        Where did you get your mscdex file? if you are using the one
JB>that came with dos 6 then don't load setver, if you are using another

Yep, that was the problem, the new version of MSCDEX did the trick.
Thanks,  Shane
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 1336
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/27/93  4:35p
Subj: HELP... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
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BJ> SS> have upgraded to DOS 6.0...   Even with the SETVER installed, it
BJ> SS> gives me the "incorrect DOS version" error.  Anyone have any ide

Thanks.  Actually,  I only needed to load the "new" MSCDEX version which
came with DOS 6.0
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 1337
  To: EDWARD HENSEL                            Date: 06/27/93  4:35p
Subj: HELP... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
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EH>Try using the MSCDEX.EXE file from DOS 6.0 instead of the one supplied
EH>from the Drive company.

Yep, that did the trick.   THANKS!!
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 1338
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/27/93  4:36p
Subj: HELP... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC>|SS> I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM, which I can not load the driver for now that
I

DC>Try directing the line in your Autoexec that calls MSCDEX to your DOS
DC>6.0 directory.....and don't use SETVER at all.

Yes, that did it. Thanks a lot!!     Shane
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1339
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  4:06p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams"              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   First, my thanks to Jim Lambert of "Computer Works" in Ashford, AL
   for sending me an "on approval" copy of the new adult CD "Digital
   Dreams" for this review.

   This review is broken up into several FIDO posts: Statistics,
   Operations (Part A), Operations (Part B), Operations (Part C),
   Visual (Part A), Visual (Part B), and Visual (Part C).  I've done
   this to keep each post rather small because I'm not sure how long a
   message FIDO (or my local BBS) can handle.  Please bear with me
   while I learn the ropes here.  If you collect all the parts
   mentioned above, in the given sequence, you'll have the whole
   enchilada.  I'd very much appreciate feedback on the FORMAT AND
   STYLE of my review so I can improve future ones.  Thanks!

   For the record, I've owned and viewed over 40 "adult" CDs with an
   aggregate image count near 100,000.  I've "messed with" a lot of
   image viewing and processing software.  In a previous life, I was a
   photographer who did, among other types, nude stills in both color
   and B&W.  I've done all steps from model interview through final
   print processing.  I don't claim to be an "expert" (whatever that
   is), but I do know good image characteristics from bad ones. Still,
   beauty is in the eyes of the beholder so remember, what follows IS
   ONE PERSON'S OPINION.

   Statistics
   ==========

   This section focuses on the numerical data relative to the physical
   contents of the CD.

   Digital Dreams (DD) has 1598 GIF images on it, not counting the 480
   "catalog" GIFs nor the 8 miscellaneous GIFs included in the GIFV
   directory along with the built-in viewer.  Therefore, for this
   review, "GIFs" is taken to mean the single-image "feature" files
   and therefore excludes the catalogs and miscellaneous images,
   unless explicitly addressed as such.

   There are 14 GIF directories with 100 GIFs each, and two
   directories that have 99 GIFs each - hence the 1598 total count.
   There are 578,272,904 bytes given over to these 1598 images for an
   average size of 361,872 bytes.  That's a pretty hefty size for even
   a 256-color GIF leading one to conjure up ideas of large, hi-rez
   images.  Here, that number only goes to prove how deceptive
   statistics can be, as will be seen a bit later on in the Operations
   sections.

   There are no duplicate GIF file names on DD, nor are there any
   duplicate GIF images that could be revealed by either electronic
   audit (name, size, and checksum) or by actual viewing.

   Operations (Part A) to follow.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1340
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  4:07p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams"              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   Operations (Part A)
   ===================

   The entirety of this section focuses those aspects of the CD that
   effect convenience and usability.  Accordingly, it is more
   subjective than the statistical section.

   There are several files with file descriptions in them.  These have
   names like: PCBOARD, QBBS-RA, SPITFIRE, and WILDCAT which I presume
   maps to their applicability to like-named BBS software.  Not being
   a sysop, I can on speculate about this.  I did scan through a
   couple of these text files and the contents seemed to be
   appropriate.

   The directories are sequentially numbered (e.g. DD1-0100) and
   therefore offer no clue to their contents.  File names are
   similarly constructed and are accordingly no more revealing (e.g.
   DD1_0350).  However, since all the images are more or less the same
   with respect to subject matter, it's not clear that this
   identification scheme is a drawback.

   As previously eluded to, there is a built-in GIF viewer.  It's a
   shareware package called "GIFReed".  The DD authors make a splash
   about this program in their documentation, but I wasn't impressed
   by it.  It's most useful feature was the ability to automatically
   center, both horizontally and vertically, a small image on the
   screen - something it got to do a lot with DD images.  A thorough
   review of it would be out of scope here, so I won't go into that.
   What is worth saying is that if one wants to take advantage of DD's
   image catalogs WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL EFFORT, then they'll have to
   use this program.  Of course, ALL the images on DD can be viewed
   with any other GIF viewer.  If one doesn't mind putting forth a bit
   of additional effort, the shareware program called GDS - Graphical
   Display System - will do a MUCH better job of creating
   point-and-click catalogs.  Of course, GDS will use HDD (or floppy)
   space for its catalogs whereas DD's GIFReed catalogs are already on
   the CD and therefore don't take up HDD space.  It's worth noting
   that DD's authors suggest copying GIFReed and the right catalogs
   (more on this later) to your HDD to boost performance.

   Operations (Part B) to follow.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1341
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  4:08p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams"              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   Operations (Part C)
   ===================

   The included copy of GIFReed is too crippled IMHO, to permit any
   real "try before buy" evaluation, not to mention the highly
   annoying beeps, messages, warnings, etc. that go along with the
   crippled functionality.  More to the point, as implemented by DD's
   authors, about half of each catalog image is occupied by a large,
   rather garish title that adds NO VALUE to the catalog image.  The
   end result is that the 28 to 36 "thumbnail" images per catalog are
   crowded into VERY slightly more than the lower half of the screen.
   You can run the math yourself:  On my 15" FS monitor, the usable
   screen is about 10.8" wide (horizontally, not diagonally).  At
   1024x768 resolution, that makes about 95 pixels per usable inch.
   Half of a 1024x768 screen spread wall-to-wall between 36 images
   gives about 11,000 pixels, about 105 pixels square, per image.
   Compare that to the 95 pixels per inch from above, add in some room
   for titles, space between images, and gentle reader you'll see that
   the DD catalogs images must be and are truly TINY.  Look at your
   thumbnail - DD's producers chose their word correctly!  True, they
   give a glimpse of what the "full sized" (more on THIS later in
   Visual) image looks like, but barely.  True, a mouse click on the
   reduced image brings up the real one so you don't have to stare at
   the catalog images for very long.  Still, why the authors chose to
   surrender half the screen's real estate to a useless title is
   beyond me.

   One probable clue came while I was "beating" on GIFReed.  While the
   cataloging capability is missing in the crippled version, I did get
   far enough into the process to see the part where a title gets
   inserted.  It wasn't entirely clear that either (a) the title could
   be omitted altogether, or (b) one had control over how large the
   mandatory title space is.  In short, once DD's authors chose
   GIFReed, and elected to have it run directly from the CD, they may
   have been somewhat locked in on how the catalog screens looked.
   Again, IMHO, GDS offers far more capability, flexibility, and
   usability.  Sysops and end users alike will find a lot to like in
   GDS - like "door" compatibility that let's users create a custom
   catalog on-the-fly of tagged GIFs and then D/L it thereby saving
   both the sysop and user a LOT of time and grief. But I digress...

   Visual (Part A) to follow.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1342
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  4:09p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams"              Refer: NONE
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   Visual (Part B)
   ===============

   True to the authors' claims, I couldn't recall ever having seen any
   of these images prior to examining DD.  Since all the GIFs have
   names that begin with "DD1_", I didn't bother checking against my
   CD GIF name data base of nearly 50K unique names.  I was confident
   I wouldn't find any duplicates there that would prove out to be
   valid.

   The authors of DD make a point about all the GIFs being scanned at
   either 1024x768x256 or 800x600x256 resolution, and that they (the
   GIFs) were "...rather painstakingly picked out."  For my money,
   they didn't go through enough pain, or else they were trying to
   save some for the customer.

   First, very few of the images are even close to being full-screen.
   Most are considerable smaller, some unacceptably small by my
   standards.  One of DD's "better" images, all things considered, is
   DD1_0065.  This image is actually 563x757x256 or about half of a
   1024x768x256 screen.  While it may be true that the authors'
   scanner was always set for a high resolution, it's a mistake to
   think that very many of the images are able take full advantage of
   it.

   More importantly, ALMOST ALL of the images have a very distracting
   "grainy" quality about them.  They're just not sharp and clear.
   OK...OK... Sometimes the "looking through gauze" effect can be
   appealing by giving the image a kind of ethereal or "sleepy" look.
   That's not what I'm talking about here, folks.  Either the source
   photographs were lousy, or a cheap or maladjusted scanner was used,
   or somebody didn't know what they were doing, or whatever, but
   SOMETHING went wrong.  Most every single image is this way -
   grainy.  It is, in my mind, reminiscent of the image quality (NOT
   subject matter) on Volcano, only worse.  It makes you keep trying
   to re-focus your eyes, and that doesn't help.

   Visual (Part C) to follow.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1343
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  7:18p
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  First, my thanks to Mike Shannon of Starvector for sending me a copy
  of the adult CD "Pork-Ware I" for this review.

  This review is broken up into several FIDO posts: Statistics,
  Operations (A), Operations (B), Operations (C), Visual (A), Visual
  (B), and Visual (C).  I've done this to keep each post rather small
  because I'm not sure how long a message FIDO (or my local BBS) can
  handle.  Please bear with me while I learn the ropes here.  If you
  collect all the parts mentioned above, in the given sequence, you'll
  have the whole enchilada.  I'd very much appreciate feedback on the
  FORMAT AND STYLE of my review so I can improve future ones.  Thanks!

  For the record, I've owned and viewed over 40 "adult" CDs with an
  aggregate image count near 100,000.  I've "messed with" a lot of
  image viewing and processing software.  In a previous life, I was a
  photographer who did, among other types, nude stills in both color
  and B&W.  I've done all steps from model interview through final
  print processing.  I don't claim to be an "expert" (whatever that
  is), but I do know good image characteristics from bad ones. Still,
  beauty is in the eyes of the beholder so remember, what follows IS
  ONE PERSON'S OPINION.

  Statistics
  ==========

  This section focuses on the numerical data relative to the physical
  contents of the CD.

  Pork-Ware I (PW1) has 2014 GIF images on it, plus 35 Targa files.
  The CD has 22 image directories, 21 for GIFs and 1 for the Targa
  files.  The directories are named X01...X22 thereby in themselves
  giving no clue to their individual contents.  In reality, the images
  are split across directories according to subject matter (See
  Operations below). There are a total of 632,783,505 bytes of GIF
  files making an average of 314,192 bytes per GIF.  Make no mistake
  about it, there are some very large GIFs on this CD.  The 35 Targa
  files occupy 21,848,140 bytes for an average of 624,232 bytes each -
  actually somewhat small by Targa standards.

  There are NO duplicate file names on the CD, nor exact duplicate GIF
  images that could be revealed by an electronic audit of names, file
  sizes, and checksums.  Checked against a 47,000+ GIF file unique
  name data base, there were 833 "hits" indicating that, on a file
  name basis, about 41% of the files are potentially duplicated on
  other adult CDs.  The "hit" distribution was as follows:

             Seedy 6-Pak:  428          7th Heaven:  114
             Busty Babes:   46          Ecstasy:     164
             FAO-2:         52          FAO-3:        53
             FAO-GOLD:      91          PCPIX-1:      55
             PCPIX-2:       38          PCPIX-3:      60
             Visual Fntsy:  41          Storm-3:      65

  Now before anyone says: "Hey, all those hits add up to more than
  833.", recall that a given GIF file name may be duplicated on more
  than one other CD.

  Operations to follow.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1344
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  7:19p
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
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  Operations
  ==========

  The entirety of this section focuses on those aspects of the CD that
  effect convenience and usability.  Accordingly, it is more
  subjective that the statistical section.

  There are file listings included on the CD.  These are the two-line
  description type with a header at the beginning of the file.  Not
  being a sysop, I'm not sure this makes PW1 "BBS ready" or not.  The
  file descriptions seemed accurate enough on casual scan.

  As said, the file directories are named X01 through X22.  The Targa
  files are alone in directory X20, with the GIF files occupying the
  rest.  The PW1 CD that I received had a 3-1/2" diskette with it
  labeled "Pork-Ware Installation Disk".  As I discovered from it,
  there apparently is, or will be, a "Pork-Ware 2" CD as provision was
  made to install either from this same diskette.

  Even though shareware versions of both CSHOW and VPIC are included
  on the CD, the installation procedure forces VPIC as the choice.
  More interesting than that is that the installation program only
  runs under Windows 3.1 (or later).  That's a little wierd if you ask
  me!  All the install program really does is to attempt to configure
  VPIC to your hardware by running the "WHICHVGA" program and then
  VPIC's configuration program.  This will probably work for most
  older video boards, but it failed to correctly recognize and
  configure for my S3-based board.  After that, the user is given the
  choice of having "VIEWPORK.BAT" copied to the DOS sub-directory of
  the HDD.  Since it's likely the DOS sub-directory is in the PATH
  statement, PW1's authors seem to be trying to make it easy to look
  at the CD's contents by entering VIEWPORK from any command line
  prompt.  The .BAT file is large (about 4K bytes) and clumsily
  written owing to PW1's authors not having or at least not using and
  ASK.COM or equivalent. Well, at least they tried.

  What was useful from examining the VIEWPORK.BAT file was learning
  that the contents of the GIF directories are indeed organized by
  subject matter.  A printout of that .BAT file reveals that PW1 and
  PW2 are slightly different; more importantly, it allowed me to clip
  and save the PW1 index and keep it with the CD for future reference.

  I didn't use the versions of CSHOW or VPIC that were included on
  PW1, but instead used my personal favorite image file viewer (GDS)
  for the rest of the examination.  Both of these programs are
  generally very well-known.  For those users without a preference, or
  perhaps even a viewer, I'm sure either one (or any other of a number
  of similar viewers) would be adequate for starters.  Further review
  of them here is therefore unwarranted.

  Visual to follow.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1345
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  7:20p
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
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  Visual
  ======

  This section focuses on the visual merits of the CD's imagery AS
  JUDGES BY THIS REVIEWER.  Accordingly, it is more subjective that
  either of the two preceding sections and should be taken as such.

  PW1 is a full-blown "X" CD.  Some of it's images are as "raw" as any
  you're likely see on any CD containing similar material.  Having
  said that, it's worth noting that PW1 doesn't contain any "furry
  sex" or other really "fringe" material.  That's not to say the
  images aren't graphic - they are.  In addition to the explicit sex
  images, there's a considerable population of nude images.  Many of
  these are from the PIC series and the LADYR series.  Most but not
  all of the images have a BBS logo on them.

  I made it a point to view each of the "non-hit" images.  As I
  suspected, there were some "old friends" lurking in there under
  changed names.  I didn't keep strict count, but I'd estimate that of
  the 1181 "non-hits", about 25% were in this category.  On the other
  hand, of the non-hit file names, 28% had Village Adult BBS file
  names indicating that they were, as far as my data base is
  concerned, "new" images.

  If you're into 24-bit color, you'll appreciate the 35 Targa files
  included on PW1.  They do look slightly smoother than 256-color
  images, but not by much to these tired eyes.  Eight-bit color seems
  to do quite well rendering flesh tones, etc.  I actually converted a
  few of the Targa images to 256-color and could see differences, but
  they were small ones.  For pictures of humans, IMHO the extra space
  required by 24-bit color isn't worth it.

  Since most of the images are obviously scans from some of the larger
  and better known "houses" (e.g. McHenry, Prizm, Village, etc.), the
  intrinsic image quality of the images is quite good on the whole.
  As with any similar adult CD, there are a few misses, but not that
  many.  All in all, if you don't have an adult CD and want ONE with a
  variety of material on it, including a mix of nudes and "X", this
  isn't a bad choice.  It's better than XXX Extreme (aka Physical
  Therapy); better than the Nix Pix series (which personally I regard
  as poor); and a LOT better than either Giffy Gold or Digital Dreams
  with respect to the nude collection.  If you already have several
  adult CDs, this one won't add much to your collection.
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From: WESLEY DANSRO                          Number: 1346
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/20/93  4:09p
Subj: CD'd for sale                           Refer: NONE
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 .
   I have a few Cd's for sale:
.
   Lotus 1-2-3 multimedia ver 1.1 for windows, New       $60
   Food Analyst with entire USDA database8,    used      $20
.

     call 203-667-3372

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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1347
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 06/27/93  9:19a
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hey brice. the complaint was mostly with the distributor of the cd disks
he told me via voice phone that my check was acceptable.  then when the
package arrived, the story had changed. if i had known in advance that
he would not accept my check , i owuld have made the proper arangments
and either had the right amount of cash, or a money order..
after all when someone says that your check will be fine and acceptable
you pretty much don't worry about things such as correct amounts in
cash!
anyway. i just learned a lesson thats all, when someone says they will
accept a check, they probably wont........a sales tactet i suppose?

as far as the U.P.S. service, i did make a complaint towards them as
well. the attitude of the delevry man was such as  "come on and hurry
up"  and as i said in my last message. i am disabled, and walk with
crutches, it makes it very hard for someone in my position to simply
just "hurry up"

i had no idea that someone could go to work without any money in thier
pocket,  when i handed him a hundred dollar bill, he said he couldn't
change it...the change was only  9 dollars.....??????

well anyway after the nasty gram note i got from a distibutor who shall
remain nameless. i decided to do my buisness elsewhere. and i was
promised that my checks would be accepted with out any hassles..
i guess they will get all of my future buisness,

nice chatting with you brice......
best regards bubba
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1348
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/27/93  3:31p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> I'll offer you a trade.  1 brand new Quantum LPS 240 meg SCSI drive
>> w/full warranty for all the above...

    I wish that this had come earlier, I have already sold some of
the Roms.  This is what I have left:

Another "cleaning out some of the stuff from my apartment so that I can
walk around without stepping on it" sale.

CDRoms for sale:

       Time Tables of History S+I   $15.00
       Ultima 1-6                   $20.00
       Sherlock Holmes 1            $15.00
       Masterpiece Library          $25.00
       Family Doctor                $25.00
       Greatest Books 150           $20.00
       NASA Voyager Image data set only
         (there are 12 of these, 3 for each planet voyager 1 and 2
          visited, 0% duplication of data between roms, over 7 GIG
          of image data, comes with disk containing software nedded
          to view images, which are in some strange NASA format, will
          sell set for $85)


Reply here or Netmail, whichever you prefer...

    Could we work a trade on the remainder?  I have actually only sold
the least expensive $90 worth, the bulk of the good stuff, $205 worth, is
still here.  And I am in the market for a SCSI HD, got any MAXTOR?


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From: ROBERT PERREAULT                       Number: 1349
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  7:52p
Subj: toshiba cd-roms                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have some Toshiba model xm-3101bme that I need to find someone to work
on.. I heard that it needs a chip changed out.. What happens is the
light gos off and on but it still reads the cd.. And I have one that the
light stays on all the time and will not read the CD.. The one that
stays on all the was going on and off like the athere one at first..
If you know some one or you fix them please reply..

                                     thanks
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1350
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 06/22/93 12:39a
Subj: Pier II                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JH>MS> You'll always pay a little more for the best.  You just can't get a
JH>MS> Ferrari for the price of a Yugo. 8)

JH>Just like the last one I bought, 2 weeks later I found it for 15 dollars
JH>less! I remember when Nightowl 8 was advertised for $69.00??
JH>Well look what it sells for now!  How about last years Ferrari?

Hey Joe,

Last year's Ferrari probably went UP in value!  <g>

(thanks for the order)

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1351
  To: WADE NORTON                              Date: 06/22/93 12:39a
Subj: CD WINBOX - GET ONE!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WN>> ATTENTION WINDOWS USERS!  Looking for THE BEST Windows shareware CD?
WN>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
WN>> FROM THE MAKERS OF CD-POWERBOX . . . . . CD WINBOX 1.0 IS HERE!

WN>> SPECIAL 2-DISC OFFER:  CD WINBOX + CD POWERBOX . . . (no dupes). . .
WN>> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892

WN>> ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ The magic of Windoze: Turning a 486 into an XT.

WN>Rather a poor time for your TAG line isn't it.  I would say it is a bit
WN>innapropriate(sp) considering you're TRYING TO SELL a Windows disk.

Darn those pesky taglines! <g>  Well, OK . . . I make no secret about my
disdain for Windows, but after all, I'm not trying to sell the bloody
thing, I'm only selling the SOFTWARE that runs in that environment.  I
only use Windows if someone holds a gun to my head, but I have no problem
selling a very well-made shareware CD to folks who enjoy Windows.  Just
because I don't like using "DOS IN A CLOWN SUIT 3.1", doesn't mean others
can't use it productively.  I guess it means that I'm an old fuddy duddy
from the school of C> prompts and syntax errors, and I LIKE it that way! 8)

(I kinda like this tagline too)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1352
  To: KAMAL HAFFAR                             Date: 06/22/93 12:39a
Subj: My cds order!!!                         Refer: NONE
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KH>Hello Mike, I did finally receive my package two days ago. I am really
KH>impressed with pier2.  Unfortunately though, you have sent me So Much
Sharewa
KH>II instead of shareware 93.

Kamal,

Glad to hear it.  I'll bet Canadian customs is to blame.  Anyway, the
original order info shows So Much Shareware II, so I'm not sure what
the mixup was.  Believe me though, you DON'T WANT Shareware '93.  It's
riddled with holes, and missing lots of files.  So Much Shareware II is
10 times better, but if you'd like to return it for another title, feel
free.

Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1353
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/22/93 12:39a
Subj: CD WINBOX - GET ONE!                    Refer: NONE
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BJ> MS>     FROM THE MAKERS OF CD-POWERBOX . . . . . CD WINBOX 1.0 IS HE

BJ>OK, Mike. Send me one. After e-i-g-h-t weeks of CONCENTRATED effort, I'm
BJ>about to get the hang of 3.1 (Maybe I'm a slow learner!). If this CD's
BJ>half as good as PB, it'll be worth the price. Honk if ya' need address,
BJ>VISA #, etc. but you should still have it online.

It's on the way Bob!  Congrats on figuring out 3.1 - you have more
patience than I do! (see message to Wade Norton)

Anyway, I think you'll be pleased with Winbox.  Dave and the guys at
Damar really take the time to produce a good product.  I have all your
shipping info in the database.  You should expect to see it around Friday
the 25th.  By the way, I sent you a message the other day asking if you
still wanted to look at Porkware, but since I'm sending Winbox, I'll
assume you still want the Porker too, and I'll send it along for review.
Just send it back if you don't like it.

Thanx again,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1354
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93 12:39a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 PRE-ORDERS!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS!   NOW TAKING RESERVE ORDERS FOR THE LATEST
AND GREATEST NIGHT OWL OF ALL . . .
                                    . . . N  I  G  H  T      O  W  L
                                              |   |        +=======+
PRICE:  $45.00                            ====|===|====    ||     ||
                                              |   |        ||     ||
SPECIAL EARLY BIRD OFFER                  ====|===|====    +=======|
------------------------                      |   |               ||
Order before July 1, and                                         ||
receive your choice of:                       +-----+             ||
                                              | $45 |
    . Software Vault 2                        +-----+
    . Shareware Studio 2
    . Powerpak 3.0
    . Night Owl 7 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $15 additional!

or  . Night Owl 8 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $25 additional!

CALL TO RESERVE YOUR COPY TODAY! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-800-767-1284
OPERATORS (Rainie & I) ARE STANDING BY!

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1355
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/22/93 12:39a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS: $29!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
O               DIGITAL DREAMS IS HERE . . . . ONLY $29.00!               O
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

              * All original scans from the McHenry BBS
              * No BBS ads or logos
              * BBS-ready with support for several BBS formats
              * Over 1700 .GIF images
              * 300+ animation files
              * BRAND NEW STUFF NOT FOUND ON ANY OTHER DISC!!!!

Get the newest and BEST adult CD on the market for only..............$29.00
                                                       (limited time offer)

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1356
  To: LUC VAN DYCK                             Date: 06/22/93 12:40a
Subj: TITLES                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Luc,

Thanks for the inquiry.  We have Encyclopedia of Clipart at $28, Pier 2
at $45, and Programmer's Megapack at $34.  All are in stock and ready to
ship.  Insured Airmail shipping to Belgium would be $13.10, for a total
of $120.10 if you need all three.  Be happy to accept your VISA card.

Call if I can help further.

Thanks,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1357
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 06/23/93 11:34p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
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DD>BTW, Mike accepts plastic, is very knowlegable, friendly, and ships same
day

Unless you get me before I've had my morning coffee, in which case I'm
grouchy, I only take cold hard cash, and I ship if/when I feel like it.
After the first cup, I'm OK. <g>

Thanks again Don, I appreciate the business.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1358
  To: NEIL ALLEN                               Date: 06/23/93 11:34p
Subj: Nightwatch Interactive!!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

NA> MS> WOW!!   New > INTERACTIVE < Adult video CD!  Only . . . .
NA> MS> $65.00

NA>        Hi Mike,  can you tell me if this CD requires more than the
NA>conventional RAM in order to run properly, and does it run fine on a 286?

Neil,

To run this properly, you need a 386+ CPU and 4-megs of RAM.  It needs
Windows 3.1 also.

Yeah I know, kind of a high-$$$ hardware hog, but it IS an impressive
disc!

Hope that helps,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1359
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 06/23/93 11:34p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
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TW>MS>We have the Digital Dreams adult CD's in stock now.  Last time I talked
TW>MS>to you, you expressed some interest.  Price is $29.  Gimme a call!

TW>You have the address and the card number. Go ahead and send it. BTW, I'm
TW>going to be returning "My first time" for credit. I'm going to wait
TW>until they fix the problems with it before trying it again.

OK Terry, it's on the way.  Sorry about My First Time, but all the users
I've talked to with non-local bus systems say it runs fine, including my
system, although somewhat choppy because of my old non-multimedia drive.

Talk at ya later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1360
  To: VERNON MELTON                            Date: 06/23/93 11:34p
Subj: NEW CD'S FOR JUNE!!!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

VM> MS> KODAK PHOTO CD - Photo CD Access software w/ sample
photos...........27.
VM>LEARNING ADVENTURE -

VM>Mike,
VM>I have a Sony CDU7205 CD-Rom Drive and would like to know, if you know, if
VM>this drive Kodak Photo CD compatible.  If it is I will order the above
VM>CD-ROM from you.  Thanks in advance for your help.

Vernon,

From my understanding, it is.  However, I don't sell hardware so I don't
have stats on ALL the latest drives.  Therefore, if anyone knows different,
speak up.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1361
  To: MIKE MCGUIRE                             Date: 06/23/93 11:35p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MM>MS>>We have the Digital Dreams adult CD's in stock now.  Last time I
MM>MS>>talked to you, you expressed some interest.  Price is $29.  Gimme
MM>MS>>a call!

MM>I just walked in on this, more info please...Phone #, Payment Options,
Addres
MM>etc.....

Mike,

Hopefully I answered all your questions on the phone the other day! <g>
Thanks again for the order.  Let me know how you like it and the others.

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1362
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 06/23/93 11:35p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TS>regarding Nix Pix I, your reply seemed somewhat short. <g>.. What's
TS>wrong with it ? You carry all of the others...

Tim,

Didn't mean to be short; was just giving an honest answer.  I don't carry
them because of the bestiality content.  I don't deal in those types of
CD's.  Give Ron @ Goosebump Graphics a try.

Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1363
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93 11:35p
Subj: WIN A FREE PIER 2!                      Refer: NONE
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***************************************************************************
 All Starvector customers between now and July 17th will automatically be
 entered in our drawing for a FREE PIER 2 shareware CD!  Drawing will be
 held on Monday, July 19th, with the WINNER ANNOUNCED ON RIME AND FIDONET!
***************************************************************************

----- NO PURCHASE NECESSARY ------- GREAT COMPANION FOR NIGHT OWL 8! -----

+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| To enter Starvector's PIER 2 GIVEAWAY, simply fill out a postcard with  |
| your name, address, and phone number, and mail it to:  Starvector       |
| Software * PO BOX 8160 * Yakima WA 98908.  All entries must be received |
| by Saturday July 17th to qualify.  Entry into this giveaway will be     |
| automatic for all Starvector customers placing orders between June 22,  |
| and July 17th.  One entry per person please.  Drawing held July 19th.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1364
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93 11:35p
Subj: MORE NEW CD TITLES!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 THE NEW CD'S KEEP POURIN' IN AT STARVECTOR!
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 New stuff for June:

 BUSINESS ASSISTANT - Keep your business profitable and efficient!....19.00
 CD WINBOX - 660mb of fresh, new Windows shareware w/ built-in GUI....29.00
 COOKBOOK HEAVEN - 20,000+ recipes, cookbooks, diet programs, etc.....29.00
 DIGITAL DREAMS - 660mb of ORIGINAL adult GIF scans! No BBS ads.......29.00
 HOT PIX 5 - The newest from Windy City. 600+mb GIF's. BBS ready......34.50
 JOKES & PRANKS - Loads of practical jokes, gags, & trick software....19.00
 KODAK PHOTO CD - Photo CD Access software w/ sample photos...........27.50
 LEARNING ADVENTURE - Educational software & games for ages 5 - 12....19.00
 MONSTER MEDIA '93 - 420mb of PURE 93 shareware! No dupes. w/ manual..33.00
 NIGHTWATCH INTERACTIVE - Full-motion adult video. You control plot...65.00
 PIER 2 - Simply the best shareware CD out! See for yourself!.........45.00
 PORKWARE II - Newest adult release w/ 600+mb of great .GIF's.........37.00
 POWERPAK 3.0 - Classic shareware CD with no "surprise" inside........28.00
 PRECISION MAPPING - Like Street Atlas only better! Runs under DOS....88.00
 QRZ HAM RADIO - 3/93 US callsign database w/ 100's of Ham programs...19.00
 SCI-FI - BBS-ready CD w/ Science fiction games, graphics, etc........28.50
 SEEDY ROM MOVIE DISC - Full-motion video adult CD w/ film clips......45.00
 SHAREWARE STUDIO 2 - Brand new disc. No dupes to #1. BBS-ready.......27.00
 SOFTWARE VAULT 2 - 630+mb of ALL 1993 SHAREWARE! Outstanding CD!.....29.00
 SOUND EFFECTS LIBRARY - Loads of fun and interesting sound FX........34.00
 WORLD TRAVELER - Great collection of world photos....................18.00
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Special Offer #1:  Buy any 5 titles above and deduct 5%
 Special Offer #2:  600mb shareware CD or Windows Game CD only $6 w/ purch.
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1365
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/23/93 11:35p
Subj: AN ALL-93 SHAREWARE CD!!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
 |            THE ONLY 600+mb ALL-1993 SHAREWARE CD IS HERE!              |
 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+

                And the price? . . . . . . . . . $29.00!

 SOFTWARE VAULT 2 * SOFTWARE VAULT 2 * SOFTWARE VAULT 2 * SOFTWARE VAULT 2

 Finally!  A fully BBS-ready shareware CD packed FULL of ONLY 1993 files!
 Software Vault 2 has arrived, and it DOES DELIVER!  This is one of the
 most exciting shareware CD's to come along in a while, so get 'em while
 they're hot!

 * FILES.BBS in each directory
 * Over 50 different software categories, each w/ separate directory
 * Built-in ROMDOOR software for virtually any BBS system.
 * ALL files dated between 1/1/93 and 5/19/93
 * No duplicaton to release 1
 * Built-in multimedia demo can be modified w/ your company name
 * Features "top hits" section w/ most popular programs for Spring '93

 In stock, ready for immediate delivery.............................$29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: DAVID STULTS                           Number: 1366
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/25/93  7:44a
Subj: CD-ROM, discs                           Refer: NONE
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FOR SALE:
  Mitsumi Internal CD-ROM drive, 1 mo. old ........... $150
  CD-ROM discs:
    Linux 0.99 - Unix clone, freeware ................ $ 25
    Nightowl 8.0 ..................................... $ 15
    Phoenix-CD (also shareware) ...................... $ 10
    Source CD (source code from MS-DOS/UNIX/etc) ..... $ 15
    ---All of the above--- ........................... $ 50

Prices are --firm-- and do not include shipping.

--David Stults
Tel: [phone]am-11pm PST

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From: JOHN ANTHONY                           Number: 1367
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/24/93  5:28a
Subj: TRIANGLE TECHNOLOGIES INC               Refer: NONE
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1368
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 06/25/93  5:50p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DR>That's the down-side to accepting pre-orders for any product.  I like
Boris'
DR>approach:  Accept orders after the product is looking you in the face.
;-)

To which CD's are you referring?  The only one I have that looks me in the
face is that gorgeous chick on the cover of Busty Babes! <g>

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1369
  To: ROBBIE WILKES                            Date: 06/25/93  5:50p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
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RW>MS>We have the Digital Dreams adult CD's in stock now.  Last time I talked
RW>MS>to you, you expressed some interest.  Price is $29.  Gimme a call!

RW>Have heard good things about this CD, but don't remember the details.
RW>Can you provide a little more information, as well as a total amount to
RW>be pre-payed (incl. shipping, etc), and your address.  May be very
RW>interested in taking one off of your hands.

Robbie,

Digital Dreams is a very nice adult CD with all original scans, and no
BBS ads.  Has FILES.BBS for online use, with around 1700 .GIFs, and 300
animation files.  This is a hot seller, and well worth the 29 bucks if
you ask me.  Total with shipping is $33.  Give me a call if you need
more info, or you can send your order to our address below.

Thanks,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1370
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 06/25/93  5:50p
Subj: DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KR>What exactly is "Dictionaries and Languages"?  Does it include a
KR>translater program?
KR>Also, do you have access to National Lampoon's "rude chess"?

Kirk,

Dictionaries and Languages is a compilation of shareware dictionaries,
thesauruses, word processors, style/syntax checkers, glossaries, foreign
language tutors, etc.  It does have several translator programs too.  If
you can wait about a week, we are going to put the whole line of Chestnut
CD's on sale at $9.95 each, including Dictionaries and Languages.

Sorry, don't have the other title you mentioned.

Give a shout if you need more info.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1371
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/25/93  5:50p
Subj: Me is Mike Somebody                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ> MS>   SLMR 2.1a   If it's British, it leaks.
BJ>We could have hours of fun with this! BTW: Throw in one of your $6

Oh no . . .don't tell me you're brave enough to drive around in a British
car too!  Oh Bob, you poor sucker.  8)

BJ>shareware CDs with the PCX Potpourri package.

The PCX Potpourri is on the way to you.  We're temporarily out of the $6
shareware CD's, but I should have more in shortly.  Be glad to add one
to your next order. <g>
        ^^^^

Later,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1372
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/25/93  5:50p
Subj: OINK OINK                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>Nope...don't have one. If you're still willing to "take a flyer", I am.
BJ>Send it along with a copy of Lee's PCX Potpourri.

The Porkware rode along with CD Winbox, which hopefully you have by now.
PCX Potpourri went by its lonesome.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1373
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/25/93  5:50p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: 06/29/93  8:17a                       Private: No

TH>Isn't Mark Abb*.* Pier's top distributor?

Not any more. <g>  (Sorry Mark - couldn't resist)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1374
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/25/93  5:50p
Subj: GET YOUR RED HOT WINBOX!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   ATTENTION WINDOWS USERS!  Looking for THE BEST Windows shareware CD?
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     FROM THE MAKERS OF CD-POWERBOX . . . . . CD WINBOX 1.0 IS HERE!

      +------------------------+   +---------+   +-----------------+
      |  NO DUPES TO POWERBOX  |   |  640mb  |   |  40 FILE AREAS  |
      +------------------------+   +---------+   +-----------------+

      +-----------------+   +----------------+   +-----------------+
      |  VIRUS-CHECKED  |   |  ONLY $29.00!  |   |  MOSTLY 1993!!  |
      +-----------------+   +----------------+   +-----------------+

 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
  SPECIAL 2-DISC OFFER:  CD WINBOX + CD POWERBOX . . . (no dupes). . . $40
 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1375
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/25/93  5:50p
Subj: INTERACTIVE ADULT CD!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

      WOW!!   New > INTERACTIVE < Adult video CD!  Only . . . . $65.00
      ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

        Introducing NIGHT WATCH, the first "Interactive" full-length
        adult movie!

        You make the rounds with a beautiful late night security guard
        as you check out the action in her complex.

        This is a custom-shot, full length interactive movie with over
        100 minutes of digital video!  Shot from the first person
        point of view, and viewed on a 320 x 240 pixel screen at a
        realistic 10 frames per second, Nightwatch Interactive is the
        first full length adult movie that puts the user directly in
        the action!  All along the way, you encounter erotic situations
        and interact with some of the most gorgeous women you've ever
        seen!  (Req. Windows 3.1)

        QUANTITIES LIMITED . . . . $65.00 while they last. . . . . .

        . . . . . . . Coming soon to a CD-ROM Drive (In) near you!

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: TRENT BUREYKO                          Number: 1376
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  1:38a
Subj: CD-ROM wanted                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for an internal OR external CD_ROM system to run on my Compaq
machine.. I would prefer to purcahse a good used system and some disks as
well, but I would consider new if priced reasonably.. I'm afraid I don't get
on this board too often (my loss) so I would ask if anyone can help me with
this request, to please call me voice at 885-2524 or leave me E-mail on the
CACUG BBS (347-5493). Thanks

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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 1377
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/27/93  6:15a
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>
      Wing Commander I complete    $10.00

 I am interested in this disk. please call me on voice for details on
transfer.   919-375-4707   thanks MIKE PETRO
 ■ QMPro 1.50 22-2345 ■ Thesaurus: ancient reptile with an excellent
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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 1378
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 06/27/93 10:41p
Subj: CD ROM DISCS TO TRADE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HM>Hi everyone. I have a couple of XXX CD's that I would be willing to trade.
HM>       - Asian Ladies - Pretty new disc, only used 3-4 times.

HM>       - Adult Reference Library - Also new with minimal use.

HM>Let me know what you have to trade, and we'll see if we can hook up.

I would like to trade off with ya.  I have For Adults Only - Volumes 1
and 2.  You interested?

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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 1379
  To: SCOTT HUNSINGER                          Date: 06/27/93 10:41p
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SH>CD's for sale:

SH>Wing Commander II Deluxe Edition
SH>Phoenix CD Version 3.0 (still shrinkwrapped) Lotus 1-2-3 for Windows with
SH>Multimedia Smarthelp The Bible Library Animated Pixels - The Illustrated
Hol
SH>Bible Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective Version I Prophone (3 disk set
of
SH>all phone numbers in U.S.) The Complete Works of William Shakespeare The
SH>Complete Sherlock Holmes Street Atlas USA (for the right price)

I'm interested in the Prophone Disk set.  What year is it for and how
much do you want?

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From: KEVIN LAM                              Number: 1380
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/26/93  6:26a
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 06-24-93 Eric Bravick wrote to All Users...

 EB>        Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00

Hey!  I want this!  Please tell me if I can have it, or if it's sold...

Reply here, or call me at 592-2162



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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 1381
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 06/27/93  6:39a
Subj: Re: CD Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KP>   Do you have more than one of these drives ??  These are the drives
KP> that you
KP> can connect four all together, Right ?? I might be buying the 4 then.
MK>
MK> Depending on how many drives you currently have connected to your SCSI
MK> card, you could connect up to 6 of these drives.
MK>
MK> 205-837-5053
MK>

Well I have a Mitsumi, But I plan on taking it Out, and putting in these,
Didn't you have a Package deal if you baught 4 they were like 600.00 ??  I
was thinking it was you, If so, Oh they also had the controller card with
them
????

  Well if so, then I will be contacting you, and giving you my info, Because
I
want them.

                        Thanks
                                       .....|<evin

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 1382
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/26/93  8:48a
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <24 Jun 93  13:51:18>, Eric Bravick (1:377/53) writes:
 >       Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00
 >       Battle Chess (not ehhanced)  $ 5.00
I'll take these and give $2 for shipping. Does $17 sound good to you?


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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 1383
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 06/27/93  2:14p
Subj: Re: Cd Rom Discs To Trade               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                 *****  Quoting Howard Malkiel to All  *****

 HM> Hi everyone. I have a couple of XXX CD's that I would be willing to
 HM> trade.
 MH>          - Asian Ladies - Pretty new disc, only used 3-4 times.

Greetings Howard, I don't have any discs yet, but I'll offer $20 for this,
plus $2.90 for USPS 2nd day priority shipping.  Let me know if this is
acceptable and I'll drop a check to you.  Regards.

,\\ark



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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 1384
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 06/27/93  2:20p
Subj: Re: Cdrom Titles 4 Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                   *****  Quoting Paul Swider to All  *****

 PS> Because some people didn't keep their word or there was some trouble
 PS> with  checks, I still have one each of the following CDROM titles from
 PS> my last msg  for sale at prices stated:

 PS> $15.00  Barney Bear Goes to School--for ages 2-6. Listen to stories
 PS> and play  various education
 PS> activities.
 PS> A money order gets same day first class shipping...

 PS> Send order to:
 PS> Paul Swider
 PS> 509 Digger St.
 PS> Las Vegas, Nv.
 PS> 89107

Paul, echo back and confirm you still have the above, and I'll send a MO for
$17 to the above address for the Barney Bear CD.  Regards.




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From: MIKE TUTHILL                           Number: 1385
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 06/27/93  9:10p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Vince,

 VS>     That's about to change, Don. I'll be sending you some information
 VS> right after the Toronto Comdex.

I'd also appreciate any info you can provide Vince.

203-10120 Manning Ave.
Ft. McMurray, AB.
T9H 2C3

By the way. I registered CD-ROM Pro a week or so ago and am quite pleased
with it and would recommend it highly to anyone else out there that wants a
good CD-ROM database program.

Take care.

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1386
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/28/93  1:01a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $39.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - MONSTER MEDIA '93'   PRICE - $29.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $30.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - WINBOX - GAMEWARE - CD POWERBOX    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $15. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $55. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
                     24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO


Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1387
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/28/93  1:01a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $369.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $459.00
Sony Int 380ms Bare Dr  - $285.00 LIMITED Sony Ext 380ms Kit   - $395.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $14.00ec
Information on the above or 400 + CD titles call [phone] anytime !


Boris Osadciw

... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
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From: MATTHEW MATHERS                        Number: 1388
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 06/26/93 12:09p
Subj: Re: Digital dreams for sa               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

JJ> Digital Dreams adult CD for sale
JJ> perfect condition, just released.
JJ> 630 + megs with many many .GIF file viewers, utilities.
JJ> BBS ready
JJ> 25.00

I am very interested in this CD if you can guarantee that it will be free
from scratches (read errors).  If it is, I will take it for $25 shipped.
Let me know by calling me at [phone], call my BBS at [phone],
or leave a message here.  Thanx!


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From: MATTHEW MATHERS                        Number: 1389
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/26/93 12:16p
Subj: Re: 4MB SIMMS trade for C               Refer: NONE
Read: 06/29/93  8:20a                       Private: No

->                             Best deal for 4MB SIMMS!

TH> This is the CDROM_SALE echo. Please stay on topic.
TH> tim
TH> moderator

Thank you Moderator but next time read the whole message.  It stated: "I
would be willing to trade 4 MB SIMMS for a SCSI CD drive".
Once again thank you but lay off.


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From: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                       Number: 1390
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93  9:35p
Subj: Pioneer 6 disc changer                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        I want to start a bbs. I have been looking at both
the Pioneer DRM-600A & DRM-604X changer. As i have read
the 604X is twice as fast as the 604X. The difference is
the 604X is 300ms with 612kb transfer rate compared to the
600A's 153kb transfer rate.
        Ok, Its twice as fast. The modem only transfers at 14.4k
and soon to be 28.8k. That is still faster than 28.8k
        And it also says you can either use a 8 bit or 16 bit
controller for either drive. If someone could enlighten me
on a few things such as. Software compatability, Drivers.
Which is best for a BBS? Speed is importand dont get me wrong.
But as long as its fast enough to run the bbs without any
long stretch waiting time. Please respond if you know about
these things.. Thanks
                                Michael
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From: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                       Number: 1391
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93  9:39p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Ive noticed alot of people wanting to hook up more than 1 cdrom drive
to there systems. I would like to know what drives
are available to handle 6 drives + piggybacked. Without needing to
use multiple IRQ's ETC.. Or in other terms DAISYCHAINED cd roms.
                        Please Respond..
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From: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                       Number: 1392
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 06/26/93 10:17p
Subj: Re: CDROM DRIVE Specials                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to Ed Fortin, Boris Osadciw said:
 > >>  *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S

 > >> Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare
 > >> -$1199.

 > >>    Are these Canadian or US prices ? Do the prices include all
 > >>    taxes?

 > These are all US prices and the only thing not in the price
 > is the
 > shipping.

 > Hope this helps....

 > Boris Osadciw

 > ... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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 > (1:157/46)

        Boris, The DRM600 Drive. Are the drives Refurbished or used?
And Do you have the interface that goes with the drive. & is software
and drivers included with the drive. Or is it a strippo.. Do you
Warrenty your msde. And if so how long? And do you take Visa/MSTERCARD.

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From: ROBERT LEDERMAN                        Number: 1393
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93  6:57a
Subj: Oxford English Dictionary               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anybody know where to get the Oxford English Dictionary on CD-ROM?
I had heard that it is quite expensive.

Please let me know.
Thanks
Robert
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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 1394
  To: SABINE VAN DEN AUDENAERDE                Date: 06/26/93  1:55p
Subj: GEEZ                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SVDA> Hi!

 > I.M.H.O. RESELLERS WHO ASK PEOPLE TO REPLY IN THIS ECHO
 > FOR A CATALOG ARE JUST FREELOADING OFF THE SYSOPS AND DRIVING
 > AWAY CASH CUSTOMERS WHO GET DAM TIRED OF "SEND CATALOG TO"
 > ANYBODY HAVING A REAL BUSINESS SHOULD HAVE AN 800 #....

 SVDA> Trying to be funny, Warren? We overseas-customers
 SVDA> CANNOT dial any 800-number ... so there is no other
 SVDA> means for us except netmail or FAX to request a
 SVDA> catalog ... But I agree, netmail would clear things
 SVDA> up a little ... ;)

       Warren makes a valid point about all the folks posting their addresses
for catalog requests. I would disagree about the "Real Business" needing to
have an 800 number. I don't want one because it helps weed out the less than
serious types.....We figure folks who'll spend a little to call us are much
more likely to real buyers and not waste our time and money.

      Sabine, when I started promoting the idea that folks shouldn't be
posting their addresses in the *other* CDROM conference for literature
requests it was reccomended that it shouldn't apply the folks outside the
U.S./Canada since most of the dealers there were U.S. based.

    DCK


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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 1395
  To: MAC USERS                                Date: 06/26/93  3:59p
Subj: Apple Service Info CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Apple Service Info CD's (Service Source CDROM) Jan 93 edition

Contains 75mb of information on servicing Apple products including
compact, modular and notebook CPU's, printers, monitors and network
products. Extensive exploded views of assemblies, including service,
disassembly and adjustment procedures in hypercard format for quick
and easy reference. Covers current (to 1/93) and many discontinued
models. If you're into Macs and have a CDROM it's a great resource.

   We have lots (100+) in stock but they won't last forever!

Price: $18 includes shipping & handling in the U.S. (1st class)
Mail Orders: Sonoma Online, POB 7518, Santa Rosa CA 95407 [phone]
Local Sales: Visit our office at 3928 Sebastopol Rd., Santa Rosa CA

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From: BOB BREED                              Number: 1396
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 06/26/93  4:28p
Subj: Re: Toshiba Cd Drive                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MK> 1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure
 MK> with power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O,
 MK> and 90- 240 VAC universal input.  $215.00
 MK>
 MK> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00
 MK>
 MK> Both Drives Include:  90 Day Warranty, External DIP switches, True 50
 MK> pin SCSI, 350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume,
 MK> newest ROM installed.  Diagnostic/cleaning done by service center.
 MK> NO special drivers required.  5.25 - HH Drive. 64k Buffer and manual.
 MK> MPC Compatible
    I have an Toshiba XM-3100B. It has the same access and
transfer speeds that you quote, but lacks the newest ROM. Is this
drive worth upgrading to the new ROM? (I assume it makes it XA
rated?) About what did it run to have yours upgraded? Is the 64K
buffer also an upgrade?


... Sure, drinking kills brain cells, but only the weak ones.
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From: CHARLES HELD                           Number: 1397
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  3:56p
Subj: Cd-rom direct                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Having seen the vendor CD-ROM DIRECT recommended by some here, I decided to
order a Toshiba 3401B internal drive from them.  The salesman quoted prices
of $419 for a bare drive and $439 for a bundle with a SCSI cable and the
Software Toolworks US Atlas CD (shipping $10 additional).  I opted for the
bundle.  My money order for $449 went out on April 12, 1993.  I was told when
I ordered that the drive was in stock.  This was not the case, and I called
back two weeks later to be told by a receptionist who sounded like she didn't
even know what she was doing that "it would ship tomorrow".  It didn't.  I
did receive a call from a salesman telling me that they were out of stock on
the Atlas and offered me an alternative disk.  I stated that I would just
wait until the Atlas came in and they could ship it separately.  Well, in
mid-May the drive finally arrived.  No Toshiba box. NO CABLE.  NO DRIVERS.  A
"manual" that was copied and hand-stapled.  No warranty information or
registration card. I have called repeatedly asking for the cable and have
been told multiple times (I think by Miss Stoned-and-Not-Caring,
unfortunately) that the cable was on its way.  Then I finally got to speak
with someone who sounded like she was in charge, but acted like a TOTAL
BITCH.  After finally acquiescing and agreeing to send me the cable, I came
home this past Thursday to find a Federal Express notice on my door saying
that I had a COD package.  The shipper?  CD-ROM DIRECT.  The COD amount?
 $439!!!  They sent me another God-Damned Drive!  (And probably without a
cable! <G>)  So here I am nearly three months after my initial order without
a useable drive.  If anyone from CD-ROM DIRECT monitors this echo, and if you
think that you're going to ruin my credit by making me refuse a COD package
you can go STRAIGHT TO HELL.  I am calling your Better Business Bureau first
thing on Monday morning and pursuing this matter to the fullest extent of the
law.

    DO NOT ORDER FROM CD-ROM DIRECT!!!!!!
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From: ROBERT ANDRES                          Number: 1398
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/26/93 11:40p
Subj: CD-Rom Discs 4sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the following applications (on CD-Rom disc) for sale:

Windows 3.1 (includes 195 page manual)--------------------$45.00
Software Toolworks Encyclopedia---------------------------$45.00

In addition, I have the following CD-Rom utilities/games on disc:

U.S. Atlas 1.5 with Automap-------------------------------$29.00
Space Quest IV--------------------------------------------$27.00
King's Quest V--------------------------------------------$25.00
Shareware Overload (games, utilities etc)-----------------$19.00
Wrath of The Demon----------------------------------------$19.00
Phoenix 3.0 shareware disc (lots games, utilities)--------$19.00

Add $2.00 for shipping.  Drop me a e-mail here or give me a
call at 202-574-8911.

Robert Andres

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From: STEVE LIN                              Number: 1399
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/27/93  1:30p
Subj: Florida Lion's Den & DevOnline          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > The shareware disc we are working on now
 > requires we peek at each file closely to see if it is forbidden on
 > CD

Let me know if you're going to have a BBS or DOORs section on your S/W CD. If
so, and would like to include a few DevOnline DOORs there with a file stating
the authenticity of the files as sent directly from a DevPal site, fire a
NetMail msg this way. =(:->)

I'm just getting tired of all the S/W CD's with messed-up copies of DevOnline
software... I'm still getting calls from confused and/or frustrated CD
buyers!

I think you consistently deliver a quality product and hope you continue in
your endeavors.

Also, if you need to make inquiries concerning DOOR products by other authors
participating in DoorNet (Radical Wave, Banzai, T&J, Sunrise, Damar,
Ponyware, etc.), please feel free to ask in DoorNet, or if you don't have a
DoorNet site near you, I'd be happy to forward your questions.

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From: RICH GURELL                            Number: 1400
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/28/93  6:53p
Subj: This echo                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Uncle Rich's BBS is now echoing this conference.

*** Always on the level ***

 <-= Uncle Rich =->

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1401
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/29/93  8:07a
Subj: OUR TRADE                               Refer: 4773
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> address.  Take care of this immediately.

Why not call Terry?  A telephone is a wonderful gizmo and allows you to
talk to someone *immediately*, instead of waiting 3-4 days as this echo
requires.  Terry's number is 305-581-5060.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1402
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/29/93  8:09a
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: 4782
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->    This review is broken up into several FIDO posts: Statistics,

That's good stuff...

tim
moderator
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1403
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/27/93  8:04p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Doug!

Saturday June 26 1993, Doug Carpenter writes to Dave Reed:

 DC> That is one reason I'm not taking preorders for Nightowl 9.  I have an
 DC> order in with a distributor, but they stated up front, they don't know
 DC> what their price is yet.  Reminds you of Nightowl 8, huh? <g>.

Reminds me of Night Owl's v(insert any version number here).  ;-)

Later,

Dave.

... First Hillary, then Jennifer... now US!

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From: MAX HILL                               Number: 1404
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  8:17p
Subj: OVERSEAS DIST. WANTED                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 The producers of BigSky ROM are actively seeking overseas
 distributors for BigSky ROM and future releases.  If you
 are a qualified distributor with distribution points no
 less than 1,000 km or are willing to join our growing
 network of distributors and establish a network meeting
 this criterion, please respond by fax with your experience/
 qualifications to 406-586-3774 or by FEDEX letter to KHE
 Computer Systems, 512 N Rouse Av, Bozeman MT  59715.

 You may also respond to Fido address 1:3400/26 Max Hill
 with your credentials and whatever other information you
 feel is relevant.  All mail sent Fido is to be sent
 receiver only.

 Thank you.
 Max Hill
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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 1405
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93  2:41a
Subj: Programmers CD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can anyone recommend a _GOOD_ CD that caters to programmers and programming
utilities?  Other stuff on the disk would be acceptable, but I'm mainly
looking for a programming related CD.  BBS ready is not absolutely necessary,
but would be a benefit.

As Always, Thanks,

Don
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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 1406
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/28/93  6:04p
Subj: NEC and Hitachi                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SP>  Does anyone know if you can run two different kinds of CD-ROM drives
  > on the same system?I would like to have a NEC or other fast speed drive
  > for personal use and a Hitachi or other slower drive for a BBS.

 Well, considering I run a hitachi3600u and 3 hitachi 3500's on one
card, a magnavox external on another card, and a mitsumi on yet another
card, i think it's safe for me to tell you that you'll have no problems
mixing cdrom brand names if you run them on seprate controllers and make
sure you use different IRQ's/Addresses on each

        ...tim klan
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1407
  To: STEVE O'BRIEN                            Date: 06/27/93  9:08p
Subj: CD ROM FILE LISTINGS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  > I am looking for (among other things) a place (BBS; a disk; paper
  >(although paper wouldn't be the environmental choice))  that has the lists
  >of most, some, one or two adult CD listings.  I really cannot see it as a
  >hard thing to do since most of the Cds come with the listings (FILES.BBS .
  >. .) on them.  [SOAPBOX] To place these files in the accessible user would
  >be an excellent marketing ploy [END SOAPBOX]  So if you or anyone else
  >knows of this info please be a chum; a buddy old' pal and drop me a line!

Have I got a deal for you! <G>  If you will call the Computer Works BBS,
and are over 21, I will give you access to several such file lists.  You
can download all you like.  Give me a page or leave me a comment, and I
will upgrade you asap.

                                                          Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS 14.4k

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1408
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  9:09p
Subj: CD WinBox!                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DP>Damar Enterprises announces the introduction of a NEW
  >Windows-based Shareware CD-ROM:

DP>              *#############*    Available from better
  >              #  CD WinBox  #    dealers in this echo!
  >              *#############*

DP>This is a GREAT addition to folks that already own our first
  >release, the CD PowerBox.  If you're into Windows - the
  >WinBox is for you.  Here are the disk's stats:

This is a great Windows CD-Rom, and it is also easy to set up.  If
anybody wants to check it out, I have it online at Computer Works.

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS 14.4k

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1409
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 06/27/93  9:09p
Subj: 7th guest trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RD>In a message of <15 Jun 93  00:36:00>, Joseph Wolfson (1:374/31) writes:
  >>Sears carries it for $59 at all it's stores......
  >You shouldn't spout information you don't know. Our Sears in Casper, Wyoming

  >wants $79, as I'm sure most do. Sears almost _always_ charges MSRP, or real
  >close to it. They must have made a mistake at yours, because they would neve

  >sell it that cheap.

I saw it (7th Guest) yesterday at Sam's Club for $45.

                                                        Jim...

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From: EARL BONSER                            Number: 1410
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/29/93 12:32a
Subj: Florida Lion's Den In                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Think of this.....how many people do you know that purchase Shareware CD
-> roms do not call BBS's or other Information services that Shareware files
-> may be available?  If the answer is one or more.....then I believe the
-> producers of shareware software should be fighting to get their works
-> included in the best selling CD's.

I agree, but ask some of the CD producers what type of response they get from
some shareware authors.  Check out some of the discussions that go on in the
CI$ ASP conference and the Fido ASP conference.  The small minds of some small
shareware authors keep their shareware business small <g>.  Some of them don't
even like their software posted on BBS's and think direct marketing and rack
vending is the only way they can keep control of their products.  Idots.  Why
would anyone spend $5 for a single floppy that contains the same program they
can get from almost any BBS for free.  And the reason it's on the BBS is
probably because it's on a CD!
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1411
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 06/29/93 12:40a
Subj: sellin' some Roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> I'll take Microsoft Bookshelf 92, is that the one which has all the
>> dictionaries and thesaurus's???  I would also like to know more about
>> the US history like megs and whatever?

    Sorry, sold both of 'em.  Here is what I have left:

Another "cleaning out some of the stuff from my apartment so that I can
walk around without stepping on it" sale.

CDRoms for sale:

       Ultima 1-6                   $20.00
       Sherlock Holmes 1            $15.00
       Masterpiece Library          $25.00
       Family Doctor                $25.00

Reply here or Netmail, whichever you prefer...

Eric


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1412
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/29/93 12:42a
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> Hmmm.........can do for these uf you throw $95 cash for the difference
>> in drive price.  Or you can hold these for a week and I can get a brand
>> new Maxtor 213 and then the cash difference would be $70.00

    Well, these roms are flyin' out of here.  I guess it is going to be
hard to do a deal.  Sold most of the list, maybe I'll catch you next time
around.

Eric


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1413
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/27/93  8:18p
Subj: Cheap CD-ROM Drives                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



 TB>  I  have  some  used  Hitachi  3500  internals  for  $130  each.
 TB> Controller cards are  $60  that  will  run  up  to  4  of  these
 TB> drives.

 JP> I thought these controllers would handle EIGHT  of  the  drives?

  Yes, these controller cards (TDCIF8) will handle up to  eight  cd
  rom drives  *IF* those drives have the necessary jumpers.   Since
  the Hitachi 3500's only have 4 jumpers ONLY 4 of these drives can
  be run on any single card.  I have 8 3600's  running  beautifully
  on one of these cards if you want to call and check it  out.   My
  bbs number is 205-824-2611

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1414
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/29/93 10:24a
Subj: CD WINBOX - GET ONE!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> assume you still want the Porker too, and I'll send it along for
 MS> Just send it back if you don't like it.


The review has been posted. There's not much on it I don't already have,
except for one directory <G>.  If you'll give me a "reviewer's price",
you can go ahead an put it on my tab. Let me know.

BTW: The installation disk gives evidence of a Pork-Ware II.  If/When
you get these, I'd like to look at it as well. Cheers!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1415
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/29/93 10:43a
Subj: DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> CD's on sale at $9.95 each, including Dictionaries and Languages


I'll take one; send it along with the $6 CD (and Oink 2) to save
shipping.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1416
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/29/93 10:46a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> BBS ads.  Has FILES.BBS for online use, with around 1700 .GIFs,
 MS> animation files.  This is a hot seller, and well worth the 29 bu


The copy reviewed (from Jim Lanbert) had *NO* aminations files (e.g.
.FLI, .GL, .DL) on it. There was a gob of utility programs, tho'.  Maybe
you're thinking of Oink 2? The directory listing for it (from the
installation disk) showed some animated files.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1417
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/29/93 10:49a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS: $29!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS>              * All original scans from the McHenry BBS


Apparently there are *TWO* CDs out with the same name!! The one from ERO
TEK has no animations. The one from McHenry is apparently called
"Digital Dreams - The McHenry Collection". I think a lot of folks are
gonna get confused.

For those readers that are interested, I reviewed the ERO TEK (TEC?)
version. I haven't seen "...The McHenry Collection".
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1418
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/29/93 10:28a
Subj: Me is Mike Somebody                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> BJ> MS>   SLMR 2.1a   If it's British, it leaks.
 MS> BJ>We could have hours of fun with this! BTW: Throw in one of yo
 MS>
 MS> Oh no . . .don't tell me you're brave enough to drive around in
 MS> British
 MS> car too!  Oh Bob, you poor sucker.  8)


Nope.  I was just referring to all the various interpretations one could
associate with the phrase! It could apply to everything from condoms to
state secrets, and a whole lot more in between. (:?
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1419
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/29/93 10:36a
Subj: OINK OINK                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> PCX Potpourri went by its lonesome.


Got it....looks pretty good for my purposes. Thanks.
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From: VERNON MELTON                          Number: 1420
  To: SCOTT HUNSINGER                          Date: 06/27/93  3:55p
Subj: Re: Cd's for sale                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                   -=> Quoting Scott Hunsinger to All <=-

 SH> Wing Commander II Deluxe Edition
 SH> Lotus 1-2-3 for Windows with Multimedia Smarthelp
 SH> The Bible Library
 SH> The Illustrated Holy Bible
 SH> Version I Prophone (3 disk set of all phone numbers in U.S.)
 SH> The Complete Works of William Shakespeare
 SH> The Complete Sherlock Holmes
 SH> Street Atlas USA (for the right price)
Scott,
      How about a price on these CD's?  Kind of hard to make an offer when
you have no idea of the price range you might be willing to accept.  And
remember some of these go for less than $15 retail.....  The only one's I
am interested in are those listed above.  Thanks in advance for your reply.
Later,
      Vernon Melton

... $ not found:  A)bort, R)efinance, D)eclare bankruptcy.
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From: DON RIEB                               Number: 1421
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 06/28/93  6:04a
Subj: Re: CDROM changer software              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PP> I got the Shareware Extravaganza for my BBS and am a bit disappointed with
PP> it.  A large number of the files are VERY old.  Many are dated in the mid

Thanks for the report on that, I will not recomend it.  I have not looked at
it personaly that close, only relied on what some of my custoemers told me
about it.  With a 4 CDSET I can beleave there is going to be some old files on
there.

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From: HOWARD MALKIEL                         Number: 1422
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/28/93  9:25p
Subj: Cd trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I recently purchased the new Digital Dreams CD, and although it it s great CD,
I thought it was the McHenry type (XXX), and this one is R rated. If anyone out
there would like to trade an XXX for this one, please let me know. Thanks.

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From: HOWARD MALKIEL                         Number: 1423
  To: RICH JACKSON                             Date: 06/28/93  7:16p
Subj: CD ROM DISCS TO TRADE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Rich,
The Asian Ladies has been spoken for already, but I still have the Adult
Reference Library that I'd be willing to sell for $20 plus $5 for shipping and
mailer costs. Let me know if you're still interested. My address is 1454
Southern Court, Warminster PA 18974. Send a money order for the amount, and
I'll ship it out the same day. Please send your address. Thanks.

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 1424
  To: MIKE TUTHILL                             Date: 06/28/93  6:36p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> VS>     That's about to change, Don. I'll be sending you some
-> information VS> right after the Toronto Comdex.
-> I'd also appreciate any info you can provide Vince.
->
-> 203-10120 Manning Ave.
-> Ft. McMurray, AB.
-> T9H 2C3
->
-> By the way. I registered CD-ROM Pro a week or so ago and am quite
-> pleased with it and would recommend it highly to anyone else out
-> there that wants a good CD-ROM database program.

   Thanks Mike!

   We'll be sending out full catalogs in mid-July, and you'll definitely
be on my list.

   Vince
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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1425
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93  9:18a
Subj: NEW CDROM                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I just got in my "Up All Night" CDROMS.  Around 580 megs, 5200 files.
Search engine uses the SB Compatible cards.  I won't even tell you it is
the best, but I will say it is well worth the money.  I also have some
odds and ends laying around.  Gimme a call at 405-672-1708 if anyone is
interested.

BOB
:-)

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1426
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93 12:46a
Subj: Night Owls 9 $29                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Night Owl's v. 9 $29
Whether you are a new customer or old customer, we are proud to bring you the
best price available.
PS: We will ship it as available
Payment Terms: VISA/MC/AMEX/Discover/COD
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd.
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 1-800-373-0628
1-206-473-1634 FAX [phone] FAX

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1427
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93 12:48a
Subj: CATALOG                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You can always download our catalog from our BBS
Our generic account
First name: CD
Lastname: ROM
Password: CATALOG
Filename: CATALOG.ZIP

You can also freq from 1:138/116 or 1:138/120 with CATALOG magic name

GroupWare

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1428
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93 12:18a
Subj: $TARVECTOR CD $ALE!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

___________________________________________________________________________

                   STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!
___________________________________________________________________________

      - These are special prices, and are for a limited time only.
      - Sale limited to stock on hand, so hurry!

                             GENERAL TITLES
                             --------------
Pier 2..............$37   Shareware Studio 2..$24   Night Owl 7.........$15
Software Vault 2....$24   ProPhone 92.........$28   CD Winbox...........$23
Bibles & Religion...$10   Colossal Cookbook...$10   Our Solar System....$10
Shareware Overload..$10   Windows 93..........$21   SoundWAV............$24
Monster Disc 2-Pak..$34   Monster Media 93....$28   Prog. Mega Pack.....$29
Total Baseball......$22   Shareware 93........$18   House of Games......$20
Deathstar Arcade....$10   Sound Sensations....$10   Windoware...........$10
Ham Radio 3.0.......$10   Technotools.........$10   Too Many Typefonts..$10
Complete Bookshop...$10   Clipart Goliath.....$10   Dictionaries/Lang...$10
Business Phonebook..$19   Barney Bear Space...$19   Barney Bear School..$19
Fontmaster 1........$15   ProPhone 93........$118   Otherware...........$20

                      ADULT TITLES (Must state 21+)
                      -----------------------------
Busty Babes.........$29   Seedy 6-Pak........$119   PC-PIX 1............$28
Ecstasy Hot Pics....$29   Asian Ladies........$29   PC-PIX 2............$28
Hot Pix 2...........$28   Digital Dreams......$28   PC-PIX 3............$28
Porkware............$29   Storm 3.............$28   Private Collection..$29

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1429
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93 12:18a
Subj: MISSED MESSAGES                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To all who have sent me mail over the past week or so, I apologize if you
did not receive my replies.  My local board has been experiencing some
problems, and some personal mail has not been going out.  If you sent me
mail and didn't receive a reply, please re-send.

Thanks,
Mike Shannon
Starvector Software
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1430
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93 12:18a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 ONLY $45!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS!   NOW TAKING RESERVE ORDERS FOR THE LATEST
AND GREATEST NIGHT OWL OF ALL . . .
                                    . . . N  I  G  H  T      O  W  L
                                              |   |        +=======+
PRICE:  $45.00                            ====|===|====    ||     ||
                                              |   |        ||     ||
SPECIAL EARLY BIRD OFFER                  ====|===|====    +=======|
------------------------                      |   |               ||
Order before July 1, and                                          ||
receive your choice of:                       +-----+             ||
                                              | $45 |
    . Software Vault 2                        +-----+
    . Shareware Studio 2
    . Powerpak 3.0
    . Night Owl 7 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $15 additional!

or  . Night Owl 8 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $25 additional!

CALL TO RESERVE YOUR COPY TODAY! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-800-767-1284
OPERATORS (Rainie & I) ARE STANDING BY!   CARDS NOT CHARGED UNTIL SHIPMENT.

***************************************************************************
Plus, all Starvector customers between now and July 17th will automatically
be entered in our drawing for a FREE PIER 2 shareware CD!  Drawing will be
held on Monday, July 19th, with the WINNER ANNOUNCED ON RIME AND FIDONET!
***************************************************************************

----- NO PURCHASE NECESSARY -------- GREAT COMPANION FOR NIGHT OWL 8! -----

+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| To enter Starvector's PIER 2 GIVEAWAY, simply fill out a postcard with  |
| your name, address, and phone number, and mail it to:  Starvector       |
| Software * PO BOX 8160 * Yakima WA 98908.  All entries must be received |
| by Saturday July 17th to qualify.  Entry into this giveaway will be     |
| automatic for all Starvector customers placing orders between June 22,  |
| and July 17th.  One entry per person please.  Drawing held July 19th.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1431
  To: DAN DOCHSTADER                           Date: 06/29/93 12:18a
Subj: NUMBER                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DD>     Hi Mike, I need your business number. Thanks...

Dan:  509-457-2892 during normal business hours.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1432
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/29/93 12:18a
Subj: SCSI DRIVE                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JP>Would you be interested in a 1.1 gigabyte 4mm SCSI Tape backup?

James,

Nope, sorry - not in the market for one right now.  We're having a sale
on some of the adult titles right now though, so if you've been thinking
about buying, now's the time!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1433
  To: CHARLES HELD                             Date: 06/29/93  9:03a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom direct                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Having seen the vendor CD-ROM DIRECT recommended by some here, I decided
> to order a Toshiba 3401B internal drive from them.  The salesman quoted
Dear Charles,
I will not defend the company you have mentioned. However, original Toshiba
3401B comes with only a caddy and bare drive. (no manual, cable, sound cable).
I always advise to our customers about what they are getting into. Usualy
individual buys another drive or accepts his/her destinity to get the drive
working with no help. However, if you need help with your drive, I will more
than happy to help you out.

GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 1434
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93  9:43p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a copy of The 7th Guest I would like to trade for other CD's. I will
consider all trades. What have you got???

Thanks,
Michael


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1435
  To: KEVIN LAM                                Date: 06/29/93 12:18p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> EB>        Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00
>>
>> Hey!  I want this!  Please tell me if I can have it, or if it's sold...

    Sorry, sold already.

Eric


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1436
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 06/29/93 12:19p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> In a message of <24 Jun 93  13:51:18>, Eric Bravick (1:377/53) writes:
>> >       Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00
>> >       Battle Chess (not ehhanced)  $ 5.00
>> I'll take these and give $2 for shipping. Does $17 sound good to you?

    Sorry, sold 'em.

Eric


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From: TOM STILES                             Number: 1437
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/29/93  7:00p
Subj: ROMS FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Still waiting for the Cd you sold me.

Tom
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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 1438
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/29/93  9:18p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EB>    Well, these roms are flyin' out of here.  I guess it is going to be
EB>hard to do a deal.  Sold most of the list, maybe I'll catch you next time
EB>around.

Well tell you I offer a Quantum 84 meg SCSI for the NASA set if you
still have it.......
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From: DONALD MACKAY                          Number: 1439
  To: SCOTT HUNSINGER                          Date: 06/29/93  8:17a
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Scott,

SH>I believe it's already sold.   If the deal falls through,
SH>though, I'll take $20 shipped for it.  Thanks for the reply!

Sounds good to me. Let me know how it goes.

ttyl /user/dan
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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1440
  To: BOB SPILLERS                             Date: 06/28/93 11:46p
Subj: Re: Which Is Best?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Bob Spillers to Eddie Phillips <=-

 BS> Thanks a lot Eddie. I now know more than I did when I sent the
 BS> message. You answered it just the way I need to keep me from getting
 BS> confused. It won't be long before I have me a CD Rom.     ITKU

You'll like it when you get it !!

... If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving isn't for you
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From: DOUG STRIEFLER                         Number: 1441
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/29/93 12:14a
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for your reply.

I have already gotten a lower price but not by much

Would you be able to tell me what else besides a P C

that I will require to produce my own C D 's. Also

what is the price for the blank roms.

Is the quoted price in U.S or canadian dollars

                    Thanks   Doug


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From: BRIAN WHEATLEY                         Number: 1442
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/29/93 10:42a
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sorry, I didn't receieve the mail, I am VERY interested, I havent found very
many .TXT files, any where, But I need my money, for my Trip to Ontario, etc.
But I have some IBM Part's. Like 286/12mhz MotherBoard, VGA Card, Monochrome
Graphics Card, 720k drives, Monochrome Monitor, Cga Color Monitor, etc.

Brian.

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From: JIM HUSBAND                            Number: 1443
  To: VERNON MELTON                            Date: 06/28/93  9:17p
Subj: FOR TRADE - MAGAZINEI                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

|VM> of dictionarys.  Hope this helps.  Now, how about that trade?          |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+

    Vernon,
    I'm really not interested in the Sony Language Disk. Since
you've gone to the trouble to reply (twice) I'd really like to
arrange something with you. In all honesty, the MR 1991 is also
cumbersome... and slow. If you are still interested, and have
anything else to offer let me know.

                                                Regards,
                                                Jim

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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 1444
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/19/93  5:54p
Subj: DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy Mike,

25 Jun 93, Mike Shannon writes to Kirk Rawnsley:

 MS> language tutors, etc.  It does have several translator programs too.  If
 MS> you can wait about a week, we are going to put the whole line of Chestnut
 MS> CD's on sale at $9.95 each, including Dictionaries and Languages.

I'll wait the week, want to place an order for several though.  Our
customs people charge a $5 "processing" fee, so might as well get a
few...

 MS> Sorry, don't have the other title you mentioned.

Me too, maybe in a week (grin).

 MS> Give a shout if you need more info.

Count on it.

TTYL

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: BEN WARREN                             Number: 1445
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93 10:10p
Subj: cd-rom for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a Magnavox external cdd401 cd rom for sale.It has 500 ms avg.
access time.It is not mpc compatible,but would be a good unit for a
bbs.It is only a week old,but it is not what i really wanted.I would
take $ 185.00 for it.It comes with it's own 8-bit card and cable.contact
me on this echo or at 913-236-6930.thank you.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1446
  To: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                         Date: 06/30/93  1:47a
Subj: Re: CDROM DRIVE Specials                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    * In a message originally to Ed Fortin, Boris Osadciw said:
 >> >>  *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S

 >> >> Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare
 >> >> -$1199.

 >> >>    Are these Canadian or US prices ? Do the prices include all
 >> >>    taxes?

 >> These are all US prices and the only thing not in the price
 >> is the
 >> shipping.

>>
>>            Boris, The DRM600 Drive. Are the drives Refurbished or
>>            used? And Do you have the interface that goes with the
>>     drive. & is software and drivers included with the drive. Or
>>     is it a strippo.. Do you Warrenty your msde. And if so how
>>     long? And do you take Visa/MSTERCARD.

These are BRAND NEW, never driven units. As for the interface, yes we
have them as well at $100. additional as this also comes with the
shielded cable and drivers.
As for the warrenty, it's done thru us for 1 year and we accept
both Visa/MasterCard as payment and do not charge a surcharge for it.

Interested in additional information, call us at the above and we'll
be glad to help you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1447
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/29/93  9:54a
Subj: Re: Weekly Specials!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Dave Reed <06-25-93 17:50> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS>> To which CD's are you referring?  The only one I have that looks me
MS>> in the
MS>> face is that gorgeous chick on the cover of Busty Babes! <g>

She has been out of print since April--She is back, she is better, SHE IS BUSTY
BABES--Will be back with distribution in July--The new cover uses FLAMES/FIRE
inside the font, and the disc says Release 3.0, so you can tell the difference
between the old one and the new one--The back of the cover is 100% different
too.

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1448
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 06/28/93  6:55a
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->  DS> Does anyone know of any good deals on cd rom burners
->
->  DS> preferably the Phillips model
->
-> How about $4,800?  I can get you one for that plus shipping and handl
              ^^^^^
That's a heck of a buy... This time last year a one-off machine with
software cost about 8 grand.

tim


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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 1449
  To: DAVID STULTS                             Date: 06/29/93  1:22p
Subj: CD-ROM, discs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DS>    Nightowl 8.0 ..................................... $ 15

David-

I'll take it + 2.90 for 2nd-day USPS. Leave me you address & preferred payment
via Netmail if availible or here. Thank

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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 1450
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/29/93 11:22p
Subj: cd info                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BJ> This isn't as easy as it sounds...and I'm working with a 486/66!!  Watch

Need a Pentium, eh? :)

 BJ> I'm anxious to know what folks on the echo think about my procedure and
   hopefully be willing to help me make it better.

I commend you, as I know this information will be invaluable for users! I'm
sure it will be even better with user input. :)

 BJ> Cheers for now!!

Ditto!
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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 1451
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 06/29/93  9:32a
Subj: Help... please!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CS>DOS V6 has it's own MSCDEX.EXE Get rid or all other copies and use the
CS>DOS 6 version.. That should help! You should try to find the utility
CS>FIND I will check your full HD for files.. The funny thing is that you
CS>can't "read" the version # of the NEW MSCDEX.EXE with the LIST utility
CS>it appeared that Microsoft encoded it??????????????  good luck..


I doubt they ENCODED it.   Microsoft is using PKLITE on the executables now.

lOYD

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From: BRIAN HURLEY                           Number: 1452
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/29/93 10:21a
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bo,


Great reviews!   You obviously took time to go through each one...  Keep up
the good work and I'd like to read more reviews if you get a chance.  Maybe
even some of the older cd's, and or shareware/non-x-gif/etc.   Also a
comparison of each like Total Bytes, %dups, avg image size, and whatever else
you can do...

One question.  Does all the x-cd's gifs have bbs logos on them?  If not which
ones that you've seen?


Brian


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From: JERRY MICKISH                          Number: 1453
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/29/93  9:38p
Subj: Re: SELLIN' SOME ROMS                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Just curious, where did you get the NASA image ROMS. I know you have recieved a
couple of offers for them, so I probably won't be able to get yours, but I am
interested in them. I have one that I got from a friend, and have not been able
to get anymore. Any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated.
--Jerry--


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From: SCOTT HUNSINGER                        Number: 1454
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 06/29/93  8:34a
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I'm interested in the Prophone Disk set.  What year is it for
 > and how
 > much do you want?
The Prophone Set is 3 CD's, and it is the 1992 version.  It includes the entire
United States Residential AND Business phone number.  If you are interested,
please give me a call at [phone] to confirm.  Thanks for the reply!
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From: JERRY MASON                            Number: 1455
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 06/29/93 12:43p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->   I wish that this had come earlier, I have already sold some of
-> the Roms.  This is what I have left:
->
-> Another "cleaning out some of the stuff from my apartment so that I
-> can walk around without stepping on it" sale.
->
-> CDRoms for sale:
->
->      Time Tables of History S+I   $15.00
->      Ultima 1-6                   $20.00
->      Sherlock Holmes 1            $15.00
->      Masterpiece Library          $25.00
->      Family Doctor                $25.00
->      Greatest Books 150           $20.00
->      NASA Voyager Image data set only
->        (there are 12 of these, 3 for each planet voyager 1 and 2
->         visited, 0% duplication of data between roms, over 7 GIG
->         of image data, comes with disk containing software nedded
->         to view images, which are in some strange NASA format, will
->         sell set for $85)
->
-> Reply here or Netmail, whichever you prefer...

I will take the Book CD if it is still available.


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1456
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 06/29/93 11:42a
Subj: NEW PRICE  "CREAM OF THE                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 Cream of the Crop Shareware cd is now available for  $29  to  the
  public.  Sysops  listed  in  Nodelist.dat  can  still  get a  $10
  discount of the new price.  Cream of the Crop features  only  the
  best shareware programs released in 91  and  92.   1,500  of  the
  5,000 + programs included on Cream of the Crop were not  upgraded
  in 92 and were included to make this  the  best  possible  single
  disc for a sysop with only one or two cd's on line.  Cream of the
  Crop does not have space hungry .gif's, or large  collections  of
  programs for sysops only. Cream of the Crop  does  have  programs
  for automatic and  INSTANT  installation  on  the  following  bbs
  programs --- Maximus, Spitfire,  RA,  Quick  BBS,  and a  partial
  setup for PCBoard.  Call 205-824-2552 to order or simply net mail
  your address (1:3625/441) and it will be shipped  c.o.d. the  day
  after I  get your order.  If you are not satisfied with this disc
  I will trade it for any other shareware disc I have in stock.

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 1457
  To: BOB BREED                                Date: 06/30/93  5:53a
Subj: Re: Toshiba Cd Drive                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BB>     I have an Toshiba XM-3100B. It has the same access and
BB> transfer speeds that you quote, but lacks the newest ROM. Is this
BB> drive worth upgrading to the new ROM? (I assume it makes it XA
BB> rated?) About what did it run to have yours upgraded? Is the 64K
BB> buffer also an upgrade?

The 64k buffer is standard.  Contact Toshiba CDROM Tech Spt at:

714-455-0407 to find out about your drive upgradability.


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 1458
  To: DON NELSON                               Date: 06/30/93  5:54a
Subj: Re: CD_ROM Drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DN> One question:  Do you have any caddies around you would like to get
DN> rid of for a cheap price??

I have new caddies for $7.00 apiece + shipping.,

205-837-5053


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 1459
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93  6:22a
Subj: CDROM Drives                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Both Models Include:  60 day Warranty, External DIP switches, 50 pin SCSI
  350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM
  installed.  Refurbished.  5.25 - HH Drive. 64k Buffer.

Still have a few left.

205-837-5053




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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1460
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/28/93  7:53p
Subj: FOR TRADE FOR ROM DRIVE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    I have a few things that I would like to sell and or trade for.
HAVE AND NEED TO SELL OR TRADE.
    1. Logithech Handscanner.
       100-400 dpi.
       32-256 grey scale.
       Great for school projects and faxs.
         need to sell or trade.  Start at $100 OBO.
    2. 2400 baud internal modem.
       Not much can be said about this modem except
       that it worked great for my first modem.  Start at $22 OBO.
    3. Adlib sound card.
       Older card!
       Great for games and sound effects.
       ***not a Sound Blaster***  Start at $20 OBO.

WOULD LIKE TO TRADE FOR AND OR BUY.
    1. Mitsumi newer or even older cd-rom, does'nt have to be Mitsumi
       but a good working one at that.
    2. Diamond or Fairenheit excell card.
    3. Sound Blaster Pro?
    4. Possibly IDE HDs.

Would like to here from people please leave mail or call me at home
at [phone].


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From: MAX HILL                               Number: 1461
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93  8:01p
Subj: DOWNLOADERS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>       BIG SKY CD-ROM     <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
          The downloader's ROM      OVER 7000 + files
.................................................................
            ORDER LINE  Voice 1-406-586-8344       > 8:00 A.M.
              ORDER LINE  FAX   [phone]     > 7:00 P.M.
               * We Pay shipping 2nd day UPS       > MST
                  * MasterCard, VISA, COD company check

PCBoard users will be pleasantly surprised to find that we have
included special tools that will allow them to install BigSky
ROM in just a few minutes -- not hours.
The PCBoard IDX file was created before the Files.BBS and
Descript.ion files were laid down on the ROM.
This software was designed and developed by Martin Productions.
Over 7,000 files using PKWARE, Inc.'s PKZIP (R) 2.04g DeflatX
MAXIMUM compression are on this ROM, including .GIF, .WAV, .ICO,
and .BMP's.  Where there were hundreds of small icon files, we
combined them into downloadable 20K files, so there is no inflated
file count on this ROM (just so you'll buy the product).
All files are True Date Stamped, based on largest file in the
archive; there's no false advertising here.  If you're a SysOp,
we know you care about your users and don't want them thinking
that a file just came out when, in fact, it is a year old.  We
do have older files on our ROM, but if -- and only if -- we
feel it is something useful or interesting.
NO MISSING FILES OR WASTED TIME!
All archive files were scanned with McAfee Associates 5/5/93
SCAN 9.15 V104, which looks for 2,049 different viruses and their
variants.
All archives have a FILE_ID.DIZ to identify them.  If one wasn't
present, we added it.
Almost no data files are on this ROM.  We expect you to find
other sources for collections of data-type ROM's, and you can look
forward to BigSky #2's being almost all unique digitized images
and files.
We've listened to you on FidoNet; we monitor the Echos:  CD-ROM,
CD-ROM sales, VIRUS info, and DIRTY_DOZEN.  We've taken the time
to find and remove any HACK Report Files, illegal commercial
programs, programs that won't run right out of the ZIP file, and
anything else we've heard about.  Special thanks to the creators
of and contributors to the Hack Report.
Also, since there are inevitably problems with file descriptions,
every BigSky ROM purchaser who sends in the registration card
will be given access to PC-Montana's Special File Description
Update Area -- FREE -- to download all new updates as they become
available.
Files listed in DIR files but missing from Disk -- NONE!
Duplicate files found in Disk subdirectories -- NONE!
Duplicate file names across the whole ROM -- NONE!
Files found on Disk but missing from DIR files -- NONE!
Duplicate files found in DIR files -- NONE!
Files.BBS and Directory Tree have been set up for MOST BBS's.
Each subdirectory will have a FILES.BBS detailed description
list for operators of WildCat BBS's to load the file descriptions
quickly from CD-ROM to their hard disk database.
Cost $48.00  We think you'll be happy with this ROM purchase.  We
have checked the stats to see what users want.  This is TRULY the
Downloader's ROM.


 * OLX 2.2 * Clinton orders Typewriters to update Whitehouse! sheesh!
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From: MAX HILL                               Number: 1462
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93  8:02p
Subj: ROM FOR SALE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                      BIG SKY ROM
         ********* THE DOWNLOADERS ROM *********


 7024 Archives, 664,860,429 bytes of downloadable archives,
 repackaged or compressed for the first time including .GIF,
 .WAV, .ICO, and .BMP files.

 All archive files use PKWARE, Inc.'s PKZIP (R) 2.04g MAXIMUM
 compression DeflatX algorithm.  With special recognition to
 Phil Katz for Ver 2 of PkZIP making this possible.

 All archive files were scanned with McAfee Associates 5/5/93
 SCAN 9.15 V104, which looks for 2,049 different viruses and
 their variants.

 All archives have a FILE_ID.DIZ to identify them.  If one wasn't
 present, we added it, AGAIN EVERY ARCHIVE HAS an archive
 description your downloaders are going to love this feature!

 All archives are True Date stamped based on the largest file.

 All archives compared to the lastest HACK Report lists, to remove
 any illegal, commercial or hacked programs on our ROM.  Special
 thanks to the creators of and contributors to the Hack Report.

 No unnessasary files or subdirectorys clutering up this ROM.

 Never before released Windows OuterWare Wallpaper files featuring
 4UP images of the Geothermal Wonders of Yellowstone National Park.

 4DOS Users - All subdirectories and files have FILE DESCRIPTIONS!!


 WildCat BBS Users All Download Directories have FILES.BBS lists!!!

 PCBoard BBS Sysops - Our SETMEUP Program builds your whole
 subdirectory!

 Files listed in DIR files but missing from Disk -- NONE!
 Duplicate files found in Disk subdirectories    -- NONE!
 Files found on Disk but missing from DIR files  -- NONE!
 Duplicate files found in DIR files              -- NONE!
 Duplicate file names across the whole ROM       -- NONE!


 If your a single rom BBS or running a six pack THIS rom will ease
 your apprenhensions about which rom your users will download from.
 38 file areas simply structured so that even the novice user will
 feel comfortable.
 Our stats chose the file areas, and from a cross section of users
 age 15 to 46, both professinal and home users, the concept of the
 downloaders ROM emerged.

                   THE $48.00 ALTERNATIVE

   SALES AND PRODUCT SUPPORT 1-406-586-8344 VOICE
   SALES - FAX [phone]  VISA & MASTERCARD welcome
                             C.O.D. COMPANY CHECK  OK
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1463
  To: MIKE PETRO                               Date: 06/30/93  3:52a
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> Wing Commander I complete    $10.00
>>
>> I am interested in this disk. please call me on voice for details on

    Sorry, Mike, that one is long gone.

Eric


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1464
  To: TOM STILES                               Date: 06/30/93  3:57a
Subj: ROMS FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> Still waiting for the Cd you sold me.

Tom,
    I called the BBS number that you left, and left you an e-mail.  I
never recieved an answer, so I sold the Rom to some one else about 5 days
ago.  Sorry.

Eric


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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 1465
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 06/29/93  9:59a
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE OR TRADE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HM>I have three recent CD's for sale or possible trade.

HM>       Asian Ladies

I can offer $25 for this one or trade you one of the For Adults Only
CD's...volume one or two.

Hope to hear from you soon.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1466
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/30/93 11:47a
Subj: REVIEWS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike:

How about sending me Pork-Ware 2 and the "McHenry Collection" for
review - same deal?
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1467
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/30/93 11:49a
Subj: SCSI DRIVE                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> * SLMR 2.1a * ...Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball...


P-l-e-a-s-e tell me what the H this tagline is supposed to mean! (Sorry
to be off topic.)
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1468
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/30/93 11:51a
Subj:  Weekly Specials!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LN> She has been out of print since April--She is back, she is bette
 LN> IS BUSTY BABES--Will be back with distribution in July--The new


Can't wait! Presume you still have on ewith my name on it/her?
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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 1469
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/29/93 12:41p
Subj: Review of "digital dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>   The entirety of this section focuses those aspects of the CD that
BJ>   effect convenience and usability.  Accordingly, it is more
BJ>   subjective than the statistical section.

Subjective or not, it sounded like you were trying very hard to be fair and
honest.  I appreciate your efforts, and I think others do also.

BJ>   The DD authors

You probably meant the "producers"; it might be helpful for these and others
you do in the future to let us know who the producers are. There are those
companies that some of us have decided to avoid, no matter WHAT they produce,
the makers of PIER 2 being only the most recent example.

73,

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Dr. Jack Kavorkian for White House physician!


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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1470
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 06/30/93  4:06p
Subj: trade?                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hey peter, it has about 5,000 pages on it... it is a Canon PC-20 ,
it does copies on both sides of the paper. it is in excellent
condition......i would trade you if you paid the shipping......
let me know... and how many megs will that rom read?? is it external or
internal? scsi or port?  sounds like what i can use by your description,
but please let me know of the particulars..
i would use it on my bbs...  you can calll me there or leave a note here
the number is  813-934-3307

thanks
best regards   bubba
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1471
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 06/30/93  5:49p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> Well tell you I offer a Quantum 84 meg SCSI for the NASA set if you
>> still have it.......

    Well, once again, It is gone.  Don't suppose you would be interested
in trading some audio CDs, comics, and cards?  I really am looking for a
SCSI Hard Drive, preferabley a MAXTOR.

Eric


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From: BEN QUON                               Number: 1472
  To: ANDREA HEARN                             Date: 06/27/93  6:27a
Subj: Free CD-ROM Catalogs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hi there. I'm new to this echo and as I was browsing the various messages,
I saw a reply asking for a CD-ROM Catalog. Could you please send me one also?
My address is:

Ben Quon
2675 East 29th Avenue
Vancouver, BC, Canada
V5R 1V3

Thanks,
Ben
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: BEN QUON                               Number: 1473
  To: TODD VIERLING                            Date: 06/27/93  6:27a
Subj: DOS 6's MSCDEX.EXE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Todd Vierling to Shane Snyder <=-

 TV> driver? Remember that MSCDEX comes with DOS 6 and you should not use
 TV> an older one. As far as the ???.SYS driver goes, if you put the correct

 Hi there Todd. Can you help me out with some information here please?

First, I was wondering if the DOS 6.0 MSCDEX.EXE is compatible with DOS 5.0.
I lost my newest copy of MSCDEX in a HD crash and the version I am using
right now can not be loaded high.

Also, my CD-ROM came in a Multimedia Kit from London Drugs. The package came
with a CD-ROM Drive and Sound Blaster Pro from Creative Labs.

Do you know what brand/access time the CD-ROM is?

Thanks,
Ben
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: ANDY PHAM                              Number: 1474
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 06/25/93  1:00p
Subj: Mitsumi Audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >         Thanks for the info - You have me very close to
 > upgrading my SB
 >         to a PRO.
 >                                 /JIM/

It is better if you upgrade your SoundBlaster Classic to a SoundBlaster 16
which is one step beyond the Pro. It has 16-Bit sound and can record up to
44.1KHz Stereo of sound rather than 22.5KHz I think. I know that it can get the
sound quality better.

Andy Pham

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From: ANDY PHAM                              Number: 1475
  To: IAN LEVSTEIN                             Date: 06/25/93  1:14p
Subj: Sony 31A & SBPro                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I'd like to hook up the audio output of my new Sony 31A to my
 > SoundBlaster Pro, but it seems that the audio cable
 > connectors are not compatible.  Any suggestions?

I have an IBM SCSI CD-ROM Drive on my system and they had incompatible
connectors to my SoundBlaster Pro too. What I did was to strip the wires and do
the connections manually. Its not easy but its worth a shot. I took me about a
half an hour to do the job and it worked. On the standard connector which is on
the sound blaster, there are 2 GND's and 1 LEFT and 1 RIGHT connector. I can't
remember what the exact pin-outs of the connector assignments but that should
be enough.

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From: ANDY PHAM                              Number: 1476
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/25/93  2:31p
Subj: Strip Poker CD-ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anybody know where I could get a copy of the Strip Poker CD-ROM (VGA)?
I've seen it before and has like movie animations. If you know where, how, and
the price of it, please reply. Thanks.

--- GEcho 1.00
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From: DON RIEB                               Number: 1477
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/29/93 10:02a
Subj: Re: NEC and Hitachi                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SP>    Does anyone know if you can run two different kinds of CD-ROM drives
SP>   on the same system?I would like to have a NEC or other fast speed drive
SP>   for personal use and a Hitachi or other slower drive for a BBS.

Sure can.  In the config.sys you load the driver for each of the drives, just
make shure that the drive designator (MSCD001, MSCD002 exc.) or (CDROM01) is
different becouse you only have to load MSCDEX.EXE once in your autoexec.bat
and have the drive designators that coraspond to the ones in your config.sys
on the command line.  like C:\CDROM\MSCDEX  /D:CDROM01 /D:CDROM02 /DCDROM03
 /DMSCD01 /E /V /S /M:64  .

This is the way I have mine and in fact I have 1 Magnovox, 1 external Hitachi,
4 Internal Hitachi's, and a 6 Pioneer changer all on one system.  Thats
3 propriatory cards and 1 SCSI card to controll them.

Just to let you know you should have to troulbe with just 2.  One thing
to watch for is make shure your card addresses are not the same, also
check IRQ's and DMA channels (If your cards use them).

** Don **

P.S. Call 708-724-2427 for the new CDROMCAT.ZIP (CDROM Catalog).  Either log
on as new or use the guest logon of CD ROM for the name and password and enter
all 0's for age or phone number security check.

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From: ERNIE TRUFFA                           Number: 1478
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93 12:42a
Subj: CD ROM FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

For Sale Toolworks Encyclopedia CD ROM....................$60.00
Leave Mail If Interested
                         Ernie Truffa


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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 1479
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93  6:35p
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have some CD-ROM discs for sale or trade.  All are in great condition.  If
interested give me a call at [phone] or leave a message here.

The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia-DOS (Video, Sound, Text)
VGA Spectrum- GIFs, FLIs, Demos, Games
1992 Guinness Disc of Records: Multimedia Version (Windows or DOS)
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective I (Video Mystery)
The Original Shareware 1992 (8,000 Shareware Programs)
Phoenix 2.0 (Shareware)
Nautilus Introduction
Software Jukebox- LINKS Golf, Faces...Tris III, Jetfighter, Berenstein Bears
               Fun With Colors, 50 Trial versions of programs
Front Page News- (Thousands Of News Articles)
Sample This!!- demo CD
CD-ROM Sampler- Demo CD

I would also be willing to sell my slightly used:
Mitsumi Drive: 350ms seek time
               150kb/sec data transfer
               interface card
               All Manuals and wires
Sound Blaster Pro: Card, Software, Midi adapter and Manuals
2400 baud Modem

Make any offers- I'm pretty reasonable!!  If interested, call [phone] or
leave a message here.  Thanks.

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1480
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 06/30/93  7:54p
Subj: Adult cd price$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TS> > regarding Nix Pix I, your reply seemed somewhat short. <g>..
 LN> It's federally illegal, and he could run into criminal charges as a
  > distributor.....Not *ONE* reputable dealer will carry this
 DK> Why is that?  Are there images on the disk that are that bad?

Nope, they are THAT good! [if you like REALLY weird stuff}:->

 * MKRead v1.01 * Oregon, where men are men and sheep are nervous.


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1481
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93  2:26a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $39.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - MONSTER MEDIA '93'   PRICE - $29.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $30.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - WINBOX - GAMEWARE - CD POWERBOX    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $15. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $55. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
                     24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: ROBBIE WILKES                          Number: 1482
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/30/93  3:08p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS: $29!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>O               DIGITAL DREAMS IS HERE . . . . ONLY $29.00!               O
MS>              * All original scans from the McHenry BBS

Hey Mike,

I just wanted to confirm... this is Digital Dreams - The McHenry
Collection, and not the regular Digital Dreams (which I'm already
getting), right?

If so, am gonna try to pick up a CD from you.

Let me know.

Robbie Wilkes
[phone] after 6:00pm EST


... CP [IR] * Coming Soon...  Highlander III:  The Apology!


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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 1483
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 06/29/93 11:16a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Titles 4 Sale                 Refer: NONE
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 On 06-27-93 Mark Johnsen wrote to Paul Swider...

 MJ> Paul, echo back and confirm you still have the above, and I'll send a

 MJ> MO for

 Sorry Mark it was sold yesterday. Thanks.

>Paul<

... OFFLINE 1.50  "Luck often wins out over science and technology!"

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1484
  To: BRIAN WHEATLEY                           Date: 06/30/93 10:43p
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
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>> Sorry, I didn't receieve the mail, I am VERY interested, I havent found
>> very many .TXT files, any where, But I need my money, for my Trip to
>> Ontario, etc. But I have some IBM Part's. Like 286/12mhz MotherBoard, VGA
>> Card, Monochrome Graphics Card, 720k drives, Monochrome Monitor, Cga
>> Color Monitor, etc.

    Well, about the only hardware I am looking for now is SCSI hard
drives.  Don't suppose you have any of those?

Eric


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1485
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 06/30/93 10:46p
Subj: NASA roms                               Refer: NONE
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>> Just curious, where did you get the NASA image ROMS. I know you have
>> recieved a couple of offers for them, so I probably won't be able to get
>> yours, but I am interested in them. I have one that I got from a friend,
>> and have not been able to get anymore. Any help you can give me will be
>> greatly appreciated.  --Jerry--

    I got them from the NASA info site on INTERNET.  It's one of those
deals where you login, fill out an order form, and they call you.  Do you
have an internet account?

Eric


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1486
  To: ANDY YEE                                 Date: 06/29/93  8:32a
Subj: CD-Rom Special                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AY>still have any left??? if you do save me one and leave me a message so I can

  >send away the money order right away

You bet!  Are you wanting the Software Vault 2 and Digital Dreams?  If
so, it is $55 plus $4 shipping (U.S.).  Are you over 21 years old?  Let
me know if you have any questions.  Thanks for your interest!

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice    Rt 3 Box 794-B
[phone] BBS      Ashford, AL 36312

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1487
  To: BILL STRANGE                             Date: 06/29/93  8:36a
Subj: CD-Rom Prices                           Refer: NONE
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BS>Thanks Jim for the catalog. I had it sitting on my wrkbench when I
  >got back from vacation. Thats the fastest response I think I have
  >ever gotten from the echos. I will be getting an order from you
  >asap. And i'm sending a local distributor your way as well...

Thanks, Bill.  We try to get all mailings out on a daily basis.  First
impressions are really important in such a competitive business. <G>  I
appreciate the referral!  Btw, we now accept Visa & Mastercard.

                                                Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1488
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/29/93  9:15a
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>  First, my thanks to Jim Lambert of "Computer Works" in Ashford, AL
  >  for sending me an "on approval" copy of the new adult CD "Digital
  >  Dreams" for this review.

Thanks for the excellent review, Bob.  This goes to show that sometimes
the stats and the true quality of a product can head in two totally
different directions.  I agree with your review completely.

                                                        Jim...

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 1489
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/30/93  4:17a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
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In a message of <25 Jun 93  17:50:12>, Mike Shannon (1:3407/101) writes:

 >Digital Dreams is a very nice adult CD with all original scans, and no
 >BBS ads.  Has FILES.BBS for online use, with around 1700 .GIFs, and 300
 >animation files.  This is a hot seller, and well worth the 29 bucks if
 >you ask me.  Total with shipping is $33.  Give me a call if you need
 >more info, or you can send your order to our address below.
This must be a different Digital Dreams than I have, who is this one put out
by? Is this one the McHenry collection or the Ero Tek one?

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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 1490
  To: SCOTT HUNSINGER                          Date: 06/29/93  1:47a
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
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SH> CD's for sale:
SH> Wing Commander II Deluxe Edition

I am interested in this and maybe Sherlock, how much?

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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 1491
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/29/93 11:21a
Subj: Which Is Best?                          Refer: NONE
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|EP> That's about all I can think of.....maybe someone can add (or delete) f|
DC> +---------------------------------------------------------------------
DC> -------+All I can add is.....the caddyless drives, at least Mitsumi,
DC> don'thave the problem of sucking in dirt and dust that some of the
DC> caddytype drives have.

The caddyless drives are about 1000 times easier to clean.
If you are a smoker, plan on cleaning your cd's as well as the drives on a
regular basis. I clean mine twice a month..
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From: PAT RILEY                              Number: 1492
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 06/29/93  2:44a
Subj: Digital dreams for sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

JJ>Digital Dreams for sale
JJ>NOT the Mchenry version, this is the ERO TEK version.
JJ>anyway, it is an excellent adult CD disk...perfect condition.
JJ>25.00 OBO includes shipping!


Ok Jeff, here's my best offer.....
I'll take this one from you if you'll ship it COD for 25.00 even.
If it's a deal, send it to me at:
258 W Union
Edwardsville, Illinois 62025
(Post Office will do a COD cheaper than UPS)

Thanks.
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1493
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 06/30/93  2:22p
Subj: Re: Adult cd price$                     Refer: NONE
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In a message to Lee Noga <06-28-93 08:51> Dave Kalwishky wrote:

DK>> TS>> regarding Nix Pix I, your reply seemed somewhat short. <g>..

DK>> Why is that?  Are there images on the disk that are that bad?

Several directories--"Bad" according to Federal guidelines, gross violation of
the Federal Obscenity laws (Beastiality etc)--Hate to go before a grand jury,
and ask them if they feel the same way the Gov't feels--Not all XXX is taboo,
just select areas are documented/known to be a violation of law, this disc has
directories devoted to the "Taboo", and it makes it intentional vs accidental
inclusion of a few random scans. The courts will hold the distributor liable as
well, and can charge them with distribution of Federally illegal
material.....that's why is is important that distribs know the products they
carry--Which brings me back to the Top 10 distribs in the US, none of them will
get near this disc for whatever reason for just this reason. T'aint worth
losing an entire biz because of a disc created by a publisher who is willing to
take a chance...1991 nobody worried, in 1993 the disc has no demand by
distribution.

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 1494
  To: DAVID STULTS                             Date: 06/29/93  8:51p
Subj: CD-ROM, discs                           Refer: NONE
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  >     Nightowl 8.0 ..................................... $ 15
  >     Phoenix-CD (also shareware) ...................... $ 10

If you still have these titles, let me know where to send a MO.  Also the
approximate shipping amount for Chattanooga, TN.
                                                 Thanks,
                                                     Ron


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1495
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93  9:56p
Subj: Best Nightowl 9 Prices                  Refer: NONE
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        **  PCJ Computing is ANNOUNCING NIGHTOWL VERSION 9 !! **

                Our stock of Nightowl 9 Shareware CDs is
                on it's way.  We should have them in stock
                     by July 2.  Order yours today.
                    676 Meg - 100% 1993 - 4,955 Files
                    (59 Assorted Categories of Files)
                      Suggested Retail Price - $49
                          Our Price - Just $38
                      CALL 1-800-547-7817 to Order.
         We will meet or beat any other special offers or pricing!

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1496
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93 11:24p
Subj: Some Great CDROM Prices                 Refer: NONE
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************** PCJ Computing - Partial CDROM List - 6/30 ***************

   ShareWare (** BBS Ready)          Graphics/Sound/Educational (cont.)
AB20 Amiga CD-Rom............15.95  Dinosaur Adventure MPC.........33.95
America's Premier 1993 Sharw.24.95  Education Master or Business...19.95
C Users Group Library........29.50  Encyclopedia of Clip Art.......26.95
California Collection........16.95  Encyclopedia of Sound..........14.50
CD Powerbox.............**...22.95  Fonts #1.......................27.95
Fred Fish On-Line(Amiga)**...49.95  Fontmaster #1-18.95....or #2...27.95
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware....14.95  Gifs Galore....................16.45
Gigabyte Gold...........**...24.95  Jets & Props...................38.95
Ham Radio (Shareware)........14.50  Lovely Ladies or Mother Earth..27.95
Libris Britannica.......**...52.95  Midi Music Shop................29.95
Lion Share..............**...26.95  Mother of All Clipart (23000)..23.95
Magnum Sight & Sound....**...28.95  Publish It v2.0 (with Manual)..32.95
Megarom 1 or SDN 1......**...19.95  Publique or Fresh Arte.........35.95
Megarom 2...............**...23 95  Publishers Dream Disc..........37.95
Monster Disc (2 Cds-92).**...39.95  Publishers Paradise............32.95
Nightowl Bus. Applications...22.95  Readers Library (2000 works)...28.95
NightOwl 5.0............**...17.95  Reference Library..............27.45
Nightowl 7.0............**...24.95  Sci-Fi (Pics/Sound/Files).**...27.95
Nightowl 8.0............**...26.95  Space Adventure................32.95
Nightowl 9.0............**...37.95  So Much Screenware (Gifs).**...27.95
Nightowl 8.0/9.0........**...67.95  Sound Works (Software).........18.95
Original Shareware 1992.**...16.95  Swimwear & More (SVGA).........28.95
OS/2 Archives (Hobbes).......14.95  Swimwear 1993.............**...28.95
PC Sig #9...............**...17.95  Talking Schoolhouse............36.45
PC Sig #10..............**...22.95  Talking Jungle or Classc.Tale..36.45
PC Sig #11..............**...24.95  Time Almanac 1990-17.95...1991-26.95
PC Sig #12..............**...24.95  VGA Spectrum ..#1-16.95.....#2-24.95
Phoenix v3.0............**...18.95  Wild Places or World View......23.95
Pier Shareware #1.......**...27.95  Women of Venus (Swimsuits).....27.95
Powerpak Gold...........**...22.95  Aircraft Encyclopedia..........35.95
SCI-FI (Pics,Sound).....**...27.95  Amer.Bus.Fone Book #1..$17 #2..27.95
Shareware 1993..........**...19.95  Animals SD Zoo (MPC or DOS)....26.95
ShareWare Overload...........14.50  Audobon Mammals or Birds.......26.95
Shareware Studio #1.....**...20.95  Bible Library (9 Bibles+)......28.95
Shareware Studio #2(NEW)**...23.95  Bibles & Religion..............14.50
Shareware Tiger.........**...24.95  Brit. Family Choice or Select..32.95
Sharew Extravaganza(4 cds)**.42.95  CD Cad v3.7 with manual........31.95
Simtel 20 (Gov't Sharw).**...14.95  Cinnemania.....................57.95
Software Vault #1.......**...22.95  Classic Collection (4 Pak).....53.95
Software Vault #2.(NEW).**...23.95  College Handbook (1992)........18.95
So Much Shareware #1....**...21.95  Complete Bookshop..............14.50
SO Much Shareware #2....**...28.95  Compton's Interactive Encylop..99.95
Sound Sensations.............14.50  Compton's MM Encyclopedia......68.95
Source Code (Unix/Dos).......19.45  Composer Quest.................37.95
Technotools (Programmers)....14.50  Consumer Information Disc......38.95
Top 2000 Shareware...........24.95  Crossword Cracker..............24.45
Windows 1993 or Winbox..**...27.45  Desert Storm...................34.95
Windows - CICA..........**...14.95  Dictionaries & Languages.......14.50
Windoware....................14.50  Elec. Home Libr.(250 books)....36.95
Window Master................19.45  Family Doctor..................29.45
X11R5/GNU CDRom..............24.95  Global Explorer (Delorme)......94.95
       Games/Educational            Great Cities of World 1 or 2...24.95
7th Guest....................52.95  Great Wonders of the World.....42.95
Adventures of Willy Beamish..28.95  Greatest Books Collection......44.95
Arthur's Teacher Trouble.....28.95  Grolier's Encyl. w/Ref Libr...229.95
Battlechess MPC..............29.95  Grolier Ill. Encyl. v2 (STW)...38.95
BattleChess Enhanced.........34.95  Grolier Ill. Encyl. v5 MPC.....47.95
Beauty & the Beast(Windows)..29.95  Guiness Disc of Records (92)...26.95
Carmen San Diego World Dlx...28.50  Inter. Business/Economic Atlas.24.45
Cd Game Pack v.1-19.95...v.2-26.95  Jazz, a MM history.............69.95
ChessMaster 3000 MPC.........26.45  Languages of the World.........47.95
Crossword Cracker............23.95  Library of the Future 1........52.95
DeathStar Arcade Battles.....14.50  MacMillan Dict for Children....38.95
Games 1993..............**...24.50  Magazine Rack..................23.95
GameMaster (Over 500 Games)..19.45  Mayo Clinic....................33.95
Golden Immortal..............24.95  Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing....27.95
Guy Spy......................46.95  Monarch Notes (Complete set)...63.95

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1497
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93 11:24p
Subj: Some GREAT CDROM Prices                 Refer: NONE
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******* PCJ Computing - Partial CDROM List - 6/30 - Continued **********

House of Games...............26.95  Nat. Geographic MPC Mammals....26.95
Kings Quest 5................24.95  National MM Parks Guide........27.95
Just Grandma & Me............41.95  North American Fax Book........48.95
Jones in the Fast Lane.......23.45  Our Solar System(Photos,Data)..14.50
Loom.........................24.95  P.C. Medic (Fix your PC).......32.95
Manhole......................36.95  Play w/Lang-Englh/Frenc/Span...49.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose........23.95  Pharmicist Guide to Drugs......27.95
Monkey Island (Secrets of)...24.95  Prophone Business 1993.........37.95
North American Indians.......49.95  Prophone(3 Set)-49.95..(7 Set)124.95
PC Gameroom..................28.45  Return to the Moon.............37.95
PC Sig Games.................23.95  Roger Ebert Movie Companion....42.95
Peter & the Wolf (Windows)...26.45  Sports Best on CDRom...........27.95
Secret Weapons of LuftWaffe..25.95  Street Atlas USA (Windows).....87.95
Sherlock or Shakespeare......16.95  Tempra Access Photo CD Softw...31.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1..24.95  TimeTable of Hist./Sci or Art..25.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2..54.95  Too Many TypeFonts (Laser).....14.50
SoundWav.....................28.95  ToolWorks Reference Library....26.95
Space Quest IV...............24.95  Total Baseball Encyclopedia....26.95
Spirit of Excalibur..........38.45  U.S. Atlas / Automap...........28.95
Stellar 7....................24.95  U.S. History...................33.95
StoryTime 1 or 2.............24.95  Visions of Saturn..............24.95
Trump Castle-5 casino games..28.95  World Atlas or US/World Atls...28.95
Ultima I - VI................35.95  World Atlas or US Atlas MPC....28.95
Wing Commander/Secret Missn..34.50  World Fact Book (CIA)..........24.95
Wing Commander/Ultima 6......24.95  World Traveler.................14.50
Wing Commander 2 Deluxe......57.95  World of Flight or Trains......33.95
Wing Commander 2/UUnderWrld..59.95  World Tour (CIA)...............23.95
Wrath of the Demon...........37.95
   Graphics/Sound/Educational      *************************************
Aesops Fables................29.95 ** We meet all legit / noncloseout **
Barney Bear-School or Space..21.95 ** prices in this echo. No hidden  **
Clip Art Galore...........**.28.95 ** charges for credit cards. Call  **
Clip Art Goliath (Pcx, Tif)..14.50 **for Adult Titles. Ship Worldwide **
Clip Art Heaven..............28.95 *************************************
Colossal Cookbook............14.50   Voice (24 Hours)    - 615-339-0235
Danger Hot Stuff 1...........18.95   Inquiries/Questions - 615-339-0235
Danger Hot Stuff 2...........24.95   When Ready to Order - 800-547-7817
Desktop Bookshop.............27.95   FaxBack (24 Hours)  - 615-339-0235
         Miscellaneous               Fax (24 Hours)      - 615-479-1047
Jokes & Pranks...............17.95   BBS (14400)         - 615-479-1047
1001 Utilities...............17.95   BBS (HST)           - 615-478-2890
Business Assistant...........17.95            CDROM Drives
Game Arena...................17.95  Pioneer 600A (Bare).........819.00
Learning Adventure...........17.95  Pioneer 600A with Kit.......849.00
Pentaminoes..................34.95  Pioneer 604X (Bare)........1197.00
QRZ Ham Radio................24.95  Pioneer 604X with Kit......1297.00
Giga Games...................28.95  Mitsumi 350ms Int w/Int. Kit - 195
SpaceQuest4/Kings Quest......34.95  Toshiba 3401 Int. (Bare)....455.00
CD Caddies....................4.95  Toshiba 3401 Ext. (Bare)....550.00

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1498
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/30/93 11:26p
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: NONE
Read: 07/03/93  7:16a                       Private: No

 TH>               ^^^^^
 TH> That's a heck of a buy... This time last year a one-off machine with
 TH> software cost about 8 grand.

It tiz....it tiz.....the price has been dropping steadily over the last 6
months for some reason.

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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 1499
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93  7:23a
Subj: Street Atlas USA                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To anyone out there.  I am looking for a used copy of Street Atlas USA.
If someone out there wants to get rid of their copy.  Drop me a line on
this echo.  Thanks.

Al James

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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 1500
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/29/93  9:40a
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Not knowing anything about the subject matter (well, very little <g>),
I'd say those were two really excellent reviews. Now...all I need is to
upgrade my system...

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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 1501
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/02/93  1:43a
Subj: CD_ROM Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MK> I have new caddies for $7.00 apiece + shipping.,

Thanks, I'll have to pass.  I figured out I can get then cheaply when I order
CD's.

Thanks,

.dn
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1502
  To: SCOTT ELMORE                             Date: 07/02/93  6:41a
Subj:  Adult Cd Price$                        Refer: NONE
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 SE>    What is on it that makes it illegal?


There's entire directory devoted to beastiality - sex with animals.
You'll sometimes here it referred to by the euphemism "furry sex".  In
spite of all the laws against pornography of all kinds, this and "kiddy
porn" (sex with persons under the legal age of consent) are what draw
most of the attention. One is well-advised to stay clear of both topics.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1503
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 07/02/93  6:45a
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JL> Thanks for the excellent review, Bob.  This goes to show that so


I appreciate your support, Jim.  You should have the disk back by now -
it went out USPS priority mail earlier this week.  Perhaps we can do it
again sometime. Cheers!
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From: VERNON MELTON                          Number: 1504
  To: JIM HUSBAND                              Date: 07/01/93 12:41p
Subj: Re: FOR TRADE - MAGAZINEI               Refer: NONE
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                -=> Quoting Jim Husband to Vernon Melton <=-

 JH> I'm really not interested in the Sony Language Disk. Since
Rats.....still can't unload this thing.
Jim,
    I don't have any other CD-ROM's I want to trade.  Perhaps cash?  What
would have to have for the CD?
Later,
      Vernon Melton

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From: TODD VIERLING                          Number: 1505
  To: BEN QUON                                 Date: 07/02/93 11:14a
Subj: Re: DOS 6's MSCDEX.EXE                  Refer: NONE
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On 27-Jun-93, Ben Quon (1:153/7060) contemplated DOS 6's MSCDEX.EXE
 and said the following to Todd Vierling:

 BQ>  -=> Quoting Todd Vierling to Shane Snyder <=-

 TV>> driver? Remember that MSCDEX comes with DOS 6 and you should not use
 TV>> an older one. As far as the ???.SYS driver goes, if you put the
 TV>> correct

 BQ>  Hi there Todd. Can you help me out with some information here please?

 BQ> First, I was wondering if the DOS 6.0 MSCDEX.EXE is compatible with
 BQ> DOS 5.0. I lost my newest copy of MSCDEX in a HD crash and the version
 BQ> I am using right now can not be loaded high.

I don't think it is. Why not just upgrade to 6.0 - just DON'T use DblSpace!

 BQ> Also, my CD-ROM came in a Multimedia Kit from London Drugs. The
 BQ> package came with a CD-ROM Drive and Sound Blaster Pro from Creative
 BQ> Labs.

 BQ> Do you know what brand/access time the CD-ROM is?

Nope, sorry...

 - T\/: FIDO 1:371/39.11; INTERNET [e-mail]
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From: DAVE KALWISHKY                         Number: 1506
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/02/93  8:14a
Subj: Adult cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I was interested in purchasing an Adult CD but I have no idea which ones
are good and which aren't.  I suppose that will also depend on a person
taste..  My main interest in in Lingerie, are there an ROMS that contain a
good number of those types of pics?  I have also seen alot of messages
about Digital Dreams and Digital Dreams - The MvHenry Collection, has
anyoine seen BOTH of these and have a favorite?

     -=> Dave <=-     Thu  07-01-1993

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From: TOM STILES                             Number: 1507
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/02/93  3:57p
Subj: ROMS FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

What?? I talked to you on the phone and you said you would call me back
to make arrangments to pick it up! Thanks heaps!

Tom
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From: LUC SIENAERT                           Number: 1508
  To: GARY HOFFERMAN                           Date: 06/23/93 10:10a
Subj: Cdrom dealers wanted                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Gary Hofferman wrote in a message to All:

 GH> We are looking for resellers and others who may be

Do you deliver to Europe as well.

Greetings,
           Luc

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From: CHRIS WHATELEY                         Number: 1509
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/28/93  6:30a
Subj: NEC CDR-25                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,

Can anyone give me some details on the NEC CDR-25 rom drive. I'm looking at
buying a drive in the next three weeks and am not sure which drive to get.

How much do these drives cost?

Cheers,
Chris.

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From: ERICK GROWCOCK                         Number: 1510
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/02/93  4:19a
Subj: Sony CD-Rom for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    I am selling a Sony CDU-7205 Cd-Rom drive. It operates at 240ms and has a
150kb per-second transfer rate. Also, it has its own proprietary interface
card. I am asking $250 for it including all manuals and 5 Cd-Rom titles. I will
also include Cd-Speedway which is chaching software for the Cd-Rom drive.
Anyone interested?

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1511
  To: DON CAMFIELD                             Date: 07/02/93  8:08a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE:                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

10 line limit on ads, please.

Bob Hall
CDROM Echo Moderator.

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1512
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 07/02/93  8:20a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE:                  Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No

Ihappens to be best of us..... I apologize a hundred times, I was in te wrong
ECHO when I posted this message.  I have the fear that I am going to do that,
and I finally did........

Super sorry.......

Bob Hall.



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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1513
  To: DON CAMFIELD                             Date: 07/02/93  8:23a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE:                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I entered a message to you about the 10 line limit, and I was in the wrong
echo.  I'sorry.

My apologies....

No more entering messages before I've had my coffee..

BOB


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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1514
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 07/02/93  4:01p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Greg Manter to All <=-

 GM> I have some CD-ROM discs for sale or trade.

 GM> The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia-DOS (Video, Sound, Text)
 GM> 1992 Guinness Disc of Records: Multimedia Version (Windows or DOS)
 GM> Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective I (Video Mystery)

Would you take $60 for all of the above ??  Please let me know....thanks !!

... Voice: 919-870-6926 or Prodigy: CJBM15A
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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 1515
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 07/01/93 11:19a
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Received Cream of the Crop today via COD.
What a disc !  All the time that you put into it really paid off, because it
really shows ! There are files on this disk that other are sysops don't have.
The RA BBS set up was totally painless, and worked perfectly. Thanks so much -
this was a pleasure !

Vikki

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From: TAMI THOMPSON                          Number: 1516
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 07/03/93  9:43a
Subj: More ROM titles 4 sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PS> $20.00          Media Clips DEEP VOYAGE. An audio-
 PS> visual underwater adv. trip.
Hi! I've sent NetMail to you also, but not everyone can receive it... I'm
interested in the above disk: this is not a game, correct?  is a soundcard
absolutely essential? how much memory is required? (sorry, I'm pretty CDROM
illiterate at this point in time!). Thanks for your time!   -Tami

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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 1517
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/02/93 10:12p
Subj: happy fun ball                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> * SLMR 2.1a * ...Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball...
 BJ> P-l-e-a-s-e tell me what the H this tagline is supposed to mean! (Sorry
 BJ> to be off topic.)

 Saturday Night Live "commercial"  that starts off as an elaborate drawnout
 pitch for what appears to be an ordinary plastic spongy ball. Later it
 turns out that Happy Fun Ball is a radioactive object that fell out of
 the sky and you will not sue the distributers of this product if
 your hair falls out, genetic problems or etc.

 Back on topic great objective reviews of digital and porkies....

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: ERYN BAY                               Number: 1518
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/27/93  6:38p
Subj: Office 3.0                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

What can I get in trade for Microsoft Office 3.0?



... Diplomacy is saying "nice doggy" until you find a rock.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1519
  To: STEVE KISER                              Date: 07/03/93  7:44a
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SK> I'd say those were two really excellent reviews. Now...all I nee


Thanks! I appreciate you're taking the time to reply.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1520
  To: JEFF NEWMAN                              Date: 07/03/93  7:45a
Subj:   problem with a cd                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JN> Bob, what drive do you have? will it read nix pix 1? looking for


My CD drive is a 2-1/2 year old Sony 7205; came bundled with the old
"Laser Library". It's an external drive equivalent to a 535 I think.
It's not fast (about 153 Kb/sec according to a benchmark pgm) but it's
a caddy-style style drive and it's been able to read absolutely
everything I've ever put in it - including HP-1 (which I no longer
have).

Like computers themselves, CD drive technology seems to be really
heating up - probably due to the soaring demand within the industry in
general.  I'll probably wait another 6-12 months and then see what's
shaken out before replacing the 7205 (unless it dies before then which I
doubt). Cheers!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1521
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 07/03/93  8:18a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JM> know if anybody has had any problems ordering from them. I know
 JM> prices are hard to beat, but I sort of got burnt once and would
 JM> it to happen again.


Personally, I've never had *any* problems with Starvector. I expect to
do add'l business with them in the future.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1522
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/03/93  7:51a
Subj:   Weekly Specials!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LN> have a commercial package on the market called SHOWOFF! (tm)--Th
 LN> package will put up tp 1,024 thumbnail images on the screen, all


I'll be especially interested in seeing this! My *FAV* viewer is GDS
which has many of the same features.  Also, 35% *NEW* GIFs really has my
interest as well.  However, something must've changed (or my memory's
worse than I thought!) Didn't you say a while back that the re-issue of
BB was a "dead" issue?  I was thinking that your next release was going
to be a "hard R" disk i.e. no penetrations, etc.  Whatever, I'll be glad
to look over *anything* that comes out of FLD. Ciao!
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1523
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93  8:38a
Subj: CD-Roms For Sale!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Computer Works is now accepting Visa & Mastercard for CD-Rom orders.
You can get the latest list of titles and prices by giving us a call, or
by downloading CATALOG.ZIP from our BBS.  This file also includes
descriptions of each CD-Rom as they become available.

                                                      Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1524
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 07/03/93  9:39a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

he is an arrogant jerk with prices above 20% of mmost others....
check around  first.................bubba
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1525
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 07/03/93  9:41a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

call groupware.  1-206-472-1400             best prices i have seen
he has internal mitsumi's   complete for $175.bux
and the disks that others are charging for is about 20% less
bubba
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1526
  To: TOM STILES                               Date: 07/03/93 10:39a
Subj: ROMS FOR SALE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> What?? I talked to you on the phone and you said you would call me back
>> to make arrangments to pick it up! Thanks heaps!

    We talked on the phone?  Sorry for the confusion, but I got over 50
calls that week from the 3 ads that I posted, dozens of messages and
netmails, and tons of checks in the mail.  I was totally unprepared, and
you must have gotten lost in the process.  I'll catch you next time.

Eric


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From: KEITH SHEEHAN                          Number: 1527
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 07/02/93 12:34a
Subj: CD WINBOX!                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I've read from a vendor that you are currently working on an OS/2 2.0/2.1
CD-ROM. Is there anyway I can be notified when this CD will be available. I am
looking for a good CD rom with 2.0 & 2.1 specific programs. Thanx.


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From: KEVIN MARTIN                           Number: 1528
  To: CLINT SAVAGE                             Date: 07/03/93  6:12p
Subj: I need some info.                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Clint,
I sent netmail but haven't heard back, thus this echo message.  I received
a check from you, which I will hold until I hear from you.  I believe it
was for Bookshelf, but your letter was confusing and I'm not sure if you
wanted the Dos or Win version.  Send me netmail if possible or call me
at 214-680-9060.

Regards,
Kevin

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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1529
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/02/93  7:44p
Subj: scsi controller needed                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I just got a great deal on a Toshiba xm 3301 b internal but have no
docs, manuals ... can someone out there help me with the type of
controler I would need to get this critter running.  Can I use a Pro
Audio 16 with Toshiba drives or a SB pro????
    I really would like to get this thing going and would like some
info and deffinity neeeeeeeed a card of some sort will talk price or
trade with a person who can help honestly and not take me to the
cleaners.


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1530
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/02/93  8:32p
Subj: Cd drives, software, &c.                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Carlos!

Thursday July 01 1993, Carlos Benitz writes to Patrick Rosenheim:

 TH>> YOUR LINE LENGTH IS TOO LONG.

 CB> It's more likely that you are not placing hard carriage returns at the end
 CB> of each lines (or your editor, etc. is taking them out).

I'm going to have to side with Tim on this one.  The original posts included
lines that were too long for MOST readers.  ;-(  My ads are all less than 78
characters wide to avoid such problems.


... MORALITY cannot be defined by individual choice.

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1531
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/03/93 12:01a
Subj: 7th Guest $50                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

7th Guest Complete Package $50 plus shipping. Available thru

GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1532
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/03/93 12:03a
Subj: Credit Cards                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

We are now accepting AMERICAN EXPRESS and DISCOVER also. Plus toll free lines
are more efficient and we will happy to help you with all your CD-ROM software
and hardware needs.

VOICE TOLL 1-800-373-0628
FAX TOLL   1-800-277-5179

GroupWare

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 1533
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/02/93  5:12p
Subj: NEC and Hitachi                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CK>Hey dude! I was wondering if you could tell me if it is possible to run 2 or

  >MITSUMI's off of one card... I want to put in another node for my BBS... but

  >with 3 friggn' slots taken up by Mitsumi cards... I have no space. Any help

 No.. 1 Mitsumi Per card. :(    If for bbs use, I'd suggest buying some
$130 Hitachi drives from Terry Blount on this echo.  They're slow, but
they get the job done for bbs usage and you can run 4 per card.

        ...tim klan
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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 1534
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/03/93  7:02a
Subj: FREE CD!!                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>----- NO PURCHASE NECESSARY ------- GREAT COMPANION FOR NIGHT OWL 8! -----

 Unfortunately, it's not that great a companion for night owl 9 because
there are over 1000 (out of 5000) filename dups.  Oh well, can't have it
all, after all the guy from Pier used to work for NightOwl's.

        ...tim klan
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From: JIM HUSBAND                            Number: 1535
  To: VERNON MELTON                            Date: 07/03/93  7:08a
Subj: FOR TRADE - MAGAZINEI                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

|VM>     I don't have any other CD-ROM's I want to trade.  Perhaps cash?  Wh|
|VM> would have to have for the CD?                                         |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+

    Vernon,
    $10. If you're interested, you can send it to me at:

    8326 Forest Hills Blvd.
    Dallas, Texas 75218

    I'll need your address also.

                                                            Jim

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1536
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/01/93  8:29p
Subj: Re:  Weekly Specials!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <06-30-93 11:51> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>>  LN> IS BUSTY BABES--Will be back with distribution in July--The new

BJ>> Can't wait! Presume you still have on ewith my name on it/her?

I got one with your name on it ! She is about 35% different and is minus the
filmstars, models, and amateur directories--But we added some other directories
to fill the voids.......about 95% of the T.I.T.S. BBS logo infringements were
replaced with the originals or just removed off the disc--

What's neat ? Well we teamed up with a software developement house who have a
commercial package on the market called SHOWOFF! (tm)--This package will put up
tp 1,024 thumbnail images on the screen, allows you to build libraries and save
them, notifies you of possible dupes etc--(I usually put 16 GIFS on the screen
at a time)--It get's better, this image package does all the install work, so
the user does not have to do anything but run 1 file--It has a ZOOM feature so
you can pick the image you want from a collection on the screen, and keep
ZOOMING until you have their eyeball only on the monitor--Great tool when you
want to ENLARGE your favorite part of a GIF--<snicker, snicker>...

Even have a directory of Michellea Sorensen, who is active in this echo as well
as CD distribution--Busty was scaled back to 600MB so she doesn't choke on the
older drives like she use too

We still will have our CDMENU on the disc as well, so you have 2 interfaces to
play with--

They will be ready about 13 July in time for Comdex, and I will get my lil'
darlings off--You will like it--The cover was tweaked for the better also !
The fonts are filled with  fire special effects--

All around she is solid now--She took 13 lawsuits, and about ruined us, but
she's back and with the 3100 pre-sales, she has saved the company--Looks like
the 5,000 will sell out the first week she is back--Can't get over the
International demand, that's where they all are going it seems.

So Bob, I am pleased to be able to give you a happy ending to this 90 day
nightmare, that about nailed me. Now it's time to get al the other projects
rolling.......

Mega Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 1537
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/02/93  4:44p
Subj: Toshiba CDROM Drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Both Models Include:  60 day Warranty, External DIP switches, 50 pin SCSI
  350ms access, 156k transfer, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM
  installed.  Refurbished.  5.25 - HH Drive. 64k Buffer.

Still have a few left.

205-837-5053




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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 1538
  To: LOYD CRAFT                               Date: 07/01/93  6:37a
Subj: HELP... PLEASE!!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I doubt they ENCODED it.   Microsoft is using PKLITE on the
 > executables now.

So OK Loyd, I'll check that to.

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From: DONALD WEN                             Number: 1539
  To: CHARLES HELD                             Date: 06/30/93 11:20p
Subj: Re: cd-rom direct                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CH> Having seen the vendor CD-ROM DIRECT recommended by some here, I
 CH> decided to order a Toshiba 3401B internal drive from them.  The
 CH> salesman quoted prices of $419 for a bare drive and $439 for a
 CH> bundle with a SCSI cable and the Software Toolworks US Atlas CD
 CH> (shipping $10 additional).  I opted for the bundle.  My money
 CH> order for $449 went out on April 12, 1993.  I was told when I
 CH> ordered that the drive was in stock.  This was not the case,
 CH> and I called back two weeks later to be told by a receptionist
 CH> who sounded like she didn't even know what she was doing that
 CH> "it would ship tomorrow".  It didn't.  I did receive a call
 CH> from a salesman telling me that they were out of stock on the
 CH> Atlas and offered me an alternative disk.  I stated that I
 CH> would just wait until the Atlas came in and they could ship it
 CH> separately.  Well, in mid-May the drive finally arrived.  No
 CH> Toshiba box. NO CABLE.  NO DRIVERS.  A "manual" that was copied
 CH> and hand-stapled.  No warranty information or registration
 CH> card. I have called repeatedly asking for the cable and have
 CH> been told multiple times (I think by Miss
 CH> Stoned-and-Not-Caring, unfortunately) that the cable was on its
 CH> way.  Then I finally got to speak with someone who sounded like
 CH> she was in charge, but acted like a TOTAL BITCH.  After finally
 CH> acquiescing and agreeing to send me the cable, I came home this
 CH> past Thursday to find a Federal Express notice on my door
 CH> saying that I had a COD package.  The shipper?  CD-ROM DIRECT.
 CH> The COD amount?
 CH>  $439!!!  They sent me another God-Damned Drive!  (And probably
 CH>  without a cable! <G>)  So here I am nearly three months after
 CH>  my initial order without a useable drive.  If anyone from
 CH>  CD-ROM DIRECT monitors this echo, and if you think that you're
 CH>  going to ruin my credit by making me refuse a COD package you
 CH>  can go STRAIGHT TO HELL.  I am calling your Better Business
 CH>  Bureau first thing on Monday morning and pursuing this matter
 CH>  to the fullest extent of the law.

 CH>     DO NOT ORDER FROM CD-ROM DIRECT!!!!!!

This definitely sounds like a mail order going sour.  I started shopping
around for a CD-ROM drive around mid-April, and saw a post by Mohit Goyal
that he bought a 3401B internal for $399+$29 COD.  But I am interested in the
external one, since I got a Compaq Deskpro/I with a low-profile case, and the
only open drive bay is used up by a Teac 5.25" floppy.  I called CD-ROM
Direct and they quoted me a price of $499, which at first sounded cheap
considering local stores sold them for $589 and up back then.  When I asked
if it is original from Toshiba, the salesperson told me it is a Toshiba drive
with a 3rd party case enclosure.  But when I asked further, he couldn't tell
me who made it, what warranty it carried, and I had to ship the whole darn
thing back for service.  Still, I decide to cheap out and placed an order
with them, the total would come up to $528 COD.  A week later, when I called
back for status, I was told the order was cancelled!  And that day was the
last day of the $499 offer, after which the price went up to $544. And I
thought:"BLEAUGH!  I SMELL A ROTTEN EGG!!"  So I quit dealing with them, and
eventually got one in May locally for $530+8.25% CA tax=$573.73.  The drive
is genuine Toshiba 3401E, casing and all, with manufacturing date stamped MAY
1993.  It's a deal for peace of mind.

DONALD WEN
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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 1540
  To: ED FEINS                                 Date: 07/01/93  5:47p
Subj: ProPhone                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Received them today and everything looks fine (without having tried them).  I
hope that you had an enjoyable time while visiting The City.  We had fun in
Boston.  A pleasure doing business with you, sir.

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From: BRIAN WHEATLEY                         Number: 1541
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/02/93 12:36p
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sorry, I have no SCSI Hard drives, hmm. How can we do this deal? I guess I'll
have to wqait, you don't mind do you?

Brian.

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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 1542
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/02/93  9:34a
Subj: $TARVECTOR CD $ALE!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >  STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 *
 > 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
Hi Mike

Received the discs on fri.25 not two bad considering they had to clear
customs......Thank you for your prompt and courteous service. Looking forward
to doing buisness with you in the future....."CD-WINBOX is GGGGGGGGGGgreat....


Take care

..Red..

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 1543
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/02/93  4:47p
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris,

what would be the price on a dual CD ROM drive in an external case.  please
quote me on a true SCSI and the prop-SCSI drives.  also on the new 6-disk
changer if you have one in both formats if it comes in both.  The place where I
work needs one soon and I need a good deal.  Please make sure it comes with all
cables that are needed.


Ed Duchek
[phone]


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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1544
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/02/93  8:23p
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hey mike. you seem like a real arrogant jerk... you did say that my
check was ok. and as far as your joke......well i dont find threats
funny at all/.!! futurmore i was mearly replying to a message that
someone wrote me. no names were mentioned! do you have a guilt
complex??i think you do, i never mentioned your name ...or your place of
buisness.....oh by the way . i just bought 5 disks and 2 mitsumi drives
from another distributor that has a little buisness ecthics and
politeness......and the prices beat yours by at least 20%%%%%%%%
do you get off on writeing and threatining  handicapped people????
i would make a wager that you are one of those real little guys that has
to prove himself constantly.


by the way star vector overcharges on the disks!!!!!!!!!!

listen everyone you can get them much cheaper for the same disks
elsewhere................and mike if you hassle me any further i will
place a message here daily telling of your high prices!

you say its a tantrum? i dont think so bud...if it were i would have
been on a plane to visit you personaly.....so get of my back.....

whats wrong with my name????? want a discrimination suit slapped on
you???????? next you will be calling me crippled or something...

i made a printout of your harrasment and will keep a record...

learn buisness ethics............bubba.
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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 1545
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 07/02/93  6:02p
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 GM> I would also be willing to sell my slightly used:
 GM> Mitsumi Drive: 350ms seek time
 GM>                150kb/sec data transfer
 GM>                interface card
 GM>                All Manuals and wires

Hey! If you want to sell it for $125 drop me a line! I need one for cheap....

CJK

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 1546
  To: ALL CDROM SELLERS                        Date: 07/02/93  6:13p
Subj: I want the following:                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for the following CD's from somebody that sells CD's (ie Mike,
Ismail...)

Busty Babes
Ecstasy
Hot Pics 4

The person to respond with the best price for all 3 gets my order.

CJK

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From: BOB HAY                                Number: 1547
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/03/93  6:38a
Subj: $TARVECTOR CD $ALE!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mike!

 MS> CD Winbox...........$23
 MS> Windows 93..........$21
 MS> Windoware...........$10

Could you run you're file duplication program on several of the MS Windows
disks and post the results?

Thanks,

Bob

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1548
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/02/93 11:16p
Subj: SCSI DRIVE                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ> MS> * SLMR 2.1a * ...Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball...

BJ>P-l-e-a-s-e tell me what the H this tagline is supposed to mean! (Sorry
BJ>to be off topic.)

If you're not a regular Saturday Night Live viewer, it probably has little
meaning to you.  It refers to a silly fake advertisement they ran about
a "Happy Fun Ball" for kids to play with, except there was a list of
about 50 things you shouldn't do around it, because it's some sort of
weird, slightly radioactive ball from outer space or something.  One
precaution was not to "taunt" it.

Oh well, guess you had to be there.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1549
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 07/02/93 11:16p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MW>This must be a different Digital Dreams than I have, who is this one put out
MW>by? Is this one the McHenry collection or the Ero Tek one?

Mark,

We have the Ero Tek version.  Sorry, no animation files - my mistake.

Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1550
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 07/02/93 11:17p
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GM>Front Page News- (Thousands Of News Articles)

Greg,

I'll give you $10 for this one.  Lemme know.

.\\ike     509-457-2892.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1551
  To: ALL CD'ERS!                              Date: 07/02/93 11:17p
Subj: JULY CD PRICES 1 of 2                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 July 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 7/02
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........15.00    MIDI Music Shop...............31.00
 7th Guest.....................55.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Monarch Notes.................64.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 1...18.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...43.00
 American Business Phonebk 2...28.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Amiga AB20....................16.50    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Mother of All Clipart.........24.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.50    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.50    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....30.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    National Business Directory...39.00
 Audubon's Birds...............26.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............26.00    National Parks................32.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 4.2.................22.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 5.0.................23.00
 Bible Library.................31.00    Night Owl 6.2.................24.00
 Bibles & Religion.............15.00    Night Owl 7.0.................25.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 8.0.................29.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....37.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....15.00    Night Owl 8/9 2-Pak...........65.00
 Business Backgrounds..........30.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Business Master...............20.00    North American Fax Book.......49.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 California Collection.........17.00    Original Shareware 1992.......18.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...25.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    Our Solar System..............15.00
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....33.00
 CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC-SIG #10....................27.00
 CD-ROM Grab Bag (4 CD's)......29.00    PC-SIG #12....................28.00
 CD Grab Bag (1 CD)............19.00    PC Gameroom...................28.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........24.00    Phoenix 3.0...................19.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Pier 1........................29.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....54.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............39.00
 Clipart Galore................30.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Clipart Goliath...............15.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0.............24.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........29.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............15.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........125.00
 Complete Bookshop.............15.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Composer Quest................37.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........34.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency...109.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....79.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....79.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Conan the Cimmerian...........35.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....39.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........29.00    Reader's Library..............31.50
 Crossword Cracker.............24.50    Reference Library.............27.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....38.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...43.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......15.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....28.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Desktop Bookshop (New!).......28.50    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 Dictionaries & Languages......15.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Shareware Online..............29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1552
  To: ALL CD'ERS!                              Date: 07/02/93 11:17p
Subj: JULY CD PRICES 2 of 2                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 July 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 7/02
 **************************************************************************
                                   2 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Eagle Eye Shareware (New!)....25.00    Shareware Overload............15.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Studio 1............20.00
 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Studio 2 (New!).....25.00
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......28.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound (New!)..22.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Font Master 2.................28.00    So Much Shareware 2...........29.50
 Food Analyst..................36.50    Software Vault 1..............25.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....29.00
 Game Arena (New!).............15.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..29.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Sensations..............15.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    SoundWAV......................29.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Giga Games (New!).............24.00    Space Quest IV................25.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Global Explorer...............96.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Street Atlas USA..............88.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........49.00    Super CD 2....................29.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......49.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....18.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...27.00    Super Games For Windows.......18.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............27.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................15.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.50
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Technotools...................15.00
 House of Games................26.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..32.00
 Illustrated Holy Bible........49.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Too Many Typefonts............15.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Total Baseball................29.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Trump Castle..................33.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........15.00    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Atlas MPC................27.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 King's Quest V................25.00    VGA Spectrum 1................17.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    VGA Spectrum 2................25.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........27.50    Visions of Saturn (New!)......25.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    Vital Signs...................39.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....15.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Library of the Future #1......54.50    Window Master.................20.00
 Lion's Share..................27.00    Windoware.....................15.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Windows 1993..................28.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........39.00    Windows Shareware Gold........37.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Wing Commander II Deluxe......58.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magnum One Shareware..........27.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Manhole.......................36.50    WizPak........................17.00
 Marketing Master 1992.........19.00    World Atlas MPC...............27.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............33.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak (New!).....47.00
 Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 1553
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 07/02/93  8:10p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (01 Jul 93) Jerry Mickish wrote to All...
 JM> I am sort of interested in purchasing some CD-ROMs, and would like to
 JM> know if anybody has had any problems ordering from them. I know their
 JM> prices are hard to beat, but I sort of got burnt once and would not
 JM> like it to happen again.

  I ordered two CDs and they arrived as promised.  My experience with Mike
  has been very good.  I will buy again from him too.  Hope that answers
  your question and satisfies your concern.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1554
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 06/30/93  8:51p
Subj: NEC CD ROM DRIVE FOR SALE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


I have a NEC cd rom drive for sale with controller card for $225.
 The access time of this drive is 350 ms.  Call 205-824-2552  and
 be sure to mention you are calling about the used NEC.

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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 1555
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/02/93 10:32a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS: $29!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
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BJ> MS>              * All original scans from the McHenry BBS


BJ>Apparently there are *TWO* CDs out with the same name!! The one from ERO
BJ>TEK has no animations. The one from McHenry is apparently called
BJ>"Digital Dreams - The McHenry Collection". I think a lot of folks are
BJ>gonna get confused.

BJ>For those readers that are interested, I reviewed the ERO TEK (TEC?)
BJ>version. I haven't seen "...The McHenry Collection".

Same here, my review was on the ERO TEK version (I couldn't see any info
on it about the McHenry Collection)

 * JTEDIT 1.0 * If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny.


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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 1556
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/02/93 10:44a
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>   First, very few of the images are even close to being full-screen.
BJ>   Most are considerable smaller, some unacceptably small by my
BJ>   standards.  One of DD's "better" images, all things considered, is
BJ>   DD1_0065.  This image is actually 563x757x256 or about half of a
BJ>   1024x768x256 screen.  While it may be true that the authors'
BJ>   scanner was always set for a high resolution, it's a mistake to
BJ>   think that very many of the images are able take full advantage of
BJ>   it.

BJ>   More importantly, ALMOST ALL of the images have a very distracting
BJ>   "grainy" quality about them.  They're just not sharp and clear.
BJ>   OK...OK... Sometimes the "looking through gauze" effect can be
BJ>   appealing by giving the image a kind of ethereal or "sleepy" look.
BJ>   That's not what I'm talking about here, folks.  Either the source
BJ>   photographs were lousy, or a cheap or maladjusted scanner was used,
BJ>   or somebody didn't know what they were doing, or whatever, but
BJ>   SOMETHING went wrong.  Most every single image is this way -
BJ>   grainy.  It is, in my mind, reminiscent of the image quality (NOT
BJ>   subject matter) on Volcano, only worse.  It makes you keep trying
BJ>   to re-focus your eyes, and that doesn't help.

exactly!!!!  That is what I was tring to say in my review. You hit it on
the nail.


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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 1557
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/02/93  2:59p
Subj: Monster Media CD Review                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Another Taylor Review :-)

"Monster Media '93 No. 1" CD Price $30 to $50 New CD 3 times a year:

  I just loaded up this CD, and it has some nice files on it.  I didn't
the organization (Tree) on the CD. For one thing, the directories were n
sorted. If you do a dir, you get a mix of files, and dir's in your listi
It is simple for a CD producer to run PCtools, or Norton, etc on the
directory to sort it, before coping, and making CD's.  Another complaint
was the directory structure.  All the Windows stuff was in f:\win\whatev
all the BBS files was in f:\bbs\whatever.  Note: some folks may like it
this way. When loading on a BBS, it seams to work better when all the
directories are in the Root directory.  By having sub directories, makes
it more difficult to load on a BBS. One thing that is great, is that eac
directory had a single line listing Areas.bbs included.
  A nice addition, is that the CD came inside a bound colorful book (man
that had a listing of all the files on the CD. The book is very handy, i
you normally print out the files listing, so you have a hard copy. This
way, you have a nice little compact hard copy of the files listing. Ther
are 59 directories with just about any category you can think of.
  The files all look fairly new, and are Zip'ed. I one complaint, is
that the files are Zip'ed with the new Zip. Lots of folks are not using
the new Zip, and this causes problems.  Those that are using the new zip
is because of the extra compression it performs to save hard disk space.
a CD the amount of space doesn't really matter, much.  Another complaint
each Zip file has an Add in it for the CD.  As a sysop, I would rather i
not have an ADD for the CD in each Zip file.

                  (( JT's Rating on a scale of 1 to 5: ))
"production" is the way the disk is put together, organized, including
             documentation, etc.
"price" is if the price is reasonable for what you get.
"Quality" in files, is how new the programs are, how many dupes, and gen
          quality in the files.  In Gifs, it is how the pictures look in
          general, and the quality of the subject matter.
"Overall" Average of the above ratings.

Production: 3
Price:      4
Quality:    5
Overall:    4    on a scale of 1 (BAD!) to 5 (GREAT!)


I will try to keep my reviews constant.  I don't work for a CD company,
and I don't sell CD's (unless I'm trading with someone :-))  I'm just a
sysop with several years experience.

Jim Taylor
1:310/5


I have a Winbox review forth coming, then I'm out of new CD's to review.
If some one wants to send me CD's to review with postage to send the CD
back, I will do more reviews. I don't want to keep the CD's, because if
I did, the reviews would loose credibility. (That is if they have any
credibility now (GRIN))




                                         Jim


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From: RICHARD VONZEL                         Number: 1558
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 07/02/93  7:05p
Subj: Which Is Best?                          Refer: NONE
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Hello Joe!

Tuesday June 29 1993 11:21, Joe Hayes wrote to Darin Celino:

 JH> The caddyless drives are about 1000 times easier to clean.
 JH> If you are a smoker, plan on cleaning your cd's as well as the drives on a
 JH> regular basis. I clean mine twice a month.. * SPITFIRE v3.3 -+- FreeMail
 JH> 1.07b
 JH>  + Origin: The Outer-Limits [phone] * HST/V32 * (1:2290/70)

      What do you clean them with, I have 4 old Mitsumi's for my BBS, and  I
have to clean one of them daily it seems.

Thanks,
Richard

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1559
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/03/93  3:07a
Subj: CDROM Systems                           Refer: NONE
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 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $369.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $459.00
Sony Int 380ms Bare Dr  - $285.00 LIMITED Sony Ext 380ms Kit   - $395.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $14.00ec
Information on the above or 400 + CD titles call [phone] anytime !


Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1560
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/03/93  3:07a
Subj: Super Specials                          Refer: NONE
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$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $39.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - MONSTER MEDIA '93'   PRICE - $29.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $30.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - WINBOX - GAMEWARE - CD POWERBOX    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $15. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $55. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
                     24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO


Boris Osadciw

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1561
  To: BRIAN WHEATLEY                           Date: 06/30/93 10:43p
Subj: Re: .TXT files                          Refer: NONE
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>> Sorry, I didn't receieve the mail, I am VERY interested, I havent found
>> very many .TXT files, any where, But I need my money, for my Trip to
>> Ontario, etc. But I have some IBM Part's. Like 286/12mhz MotherBoard, VGA
>> Card, Monochrome Graphics Card, 720k drives, Monochrome Monitor, Cga
>> Color Monitor, etc.

    Well, about the only hardware I am looking for now is SCSI hard
drives.  Don't suppose you have any of those?

Eric


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1562
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 06/30/93 10:46p
Subj: NASA roms                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> Just curious, where did you get the NASA image ROMS. I know you have
>> recieved a couple of offers for them, so I probably won't be able to get
>> yours, but I am interested in them. I have one that I got from a friend,
>> and have not been able to get anymore. Any help you can give me will be
>> greatly appreciated.  --Jerry--

    I got them from the NASA info site on INTERNET.  It's one of those
deals where you login, fill out an order form, and they call you.  Do you
have an internet account?

Eric


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1563
  To: ANDY YEE                                 Date: 06/29/93  8:32a
Subj: CD-Rom Special                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AY>still have any left??? if you do save me one and leave me a message so I can

  >send away the money order right away

You bet!  Are you wanting the Software Vault 2 and Digital Dreams?  If
so, it is $55 plus $4 shipping (U.S.).  Are you over 21 years old?  Let
me know if you have any questions.  Thanks for your interest!

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice    Rt 3 Box 794-B
[phone] BBS      Ashford, AL 36312

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1564
  To: BILL STRANGE                             Date: 06/29/93  8:36a
Subj: CD-Rom Prices                           Refer: NONE
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BS>Thanks Jim for the catalog. I had it sitting on my wrkbench when I
  >got back from vacation. Thats the fastest response I think I have
  >ever gotten from the echos. I will be getting an order from you
  >asap. And i'm sending a local distributor your way as well...

Thanks, Bill.  We try to get all mailings out on a daily basis.  First
impressions are really important in such a competitive business. <G>  I
appreciate the referral!  Btw, we now accept Visa & Mastercard.

                                                Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1565
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/29/93  9:15a
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: NONE
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BJ>  First, my thanks to Jim Lambert of "Computer Works" in Ashford, AL
  >  for sending me an "on approval" copy of the new adult CD "Digital
  >  Dreams" for this review.

Thanks for the excellent review, Bob.  This goes to show that sometimes
the stats and the true quality of a product can head in two totally
different directions.  I agree with your review completely.

                                                        Jim...

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 1566
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/30/93  4:17a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
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In a message of <25 Jun 93  17:50:12>, Mike Shannon (1:3407/101) writes:

 >Digital Dreams is a very nice adult CD with all original scans, and no
 >BBS ads.  Has FILES.BBS for online use, with around 1700 .GIFs, and 300
 >animation files.  This is a hot seller, and well worth the 29 bucks if
 >you ask me.  Total with shipping is $33.  Give me a call if you need
 >more info, or you can send your order to our address below.
This must be a different Digital Dreams than I have, who is this one put out
by? Is this one the McHenry collection or the Ero Tek one?

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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 1567
  To: SCOTT HUNSINGER                          Date: 06/29/93  1:47a
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
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SH> CD's for sale:
SH> Wing Commander II Deluxe Edition

I am interested in this and maybe Sherlock, how much?

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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 1568
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 06/29/93 11:21a
Subj: Which Is Best?                          Refer: NONE
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|EP> That's about all I can think of.....maybe someone can add (or delete) f|
DC> +---------------------------------------------------------------------
DC> -------+All I can add is.....the caddyless drives, at least Mitsumi,
DC> don'thave the problem of sucking in dirt and dust that some of the
DC> caddytype drives have.

The caddyless drives are about 1000 times easier to clean.
If you are a smoker, plan on cleaning your cd's as well as the drives on a
regular basis. I clean mine twice a month..
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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From: PAT RILEY                              Number: 1569
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 06/29/93  2:44a
Subj: Digital dreams for sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

JJ>Digital Dreams for sale
JJ>NOT the Mchenry version, this is the ERO TEK version.
JJ>anyway, it is an excellent adult CD disk...perfect condition.
JJ>25.00 OBO includes shipping!


Ok Jeff, here's my best offer.....
I'll take this one from you if you'll ship it COD for 25.00 even.
If it's a deal, send it to me at:
258 W Union
Edwardsville, Illinois 62025
(Post Office will do a COD cheaper than UPS)

Thanks.
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1570
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 06/30/93  2:22p
Subj: Re: Adult cd price$                     Refer: NONE
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In a message to Lee Noga <06-28-93 08:51> Dave Kalwishky wrote:

DK>> TS>> regarding Nix Pix I, your reply seemed somewhat short. <g>..

DK>> Why is that?  Are there images on the disk that are that bad?

Several directories--"Bad" according to Federal guidelines, gross violation of
the Federal Obscenity laws (Beastiality etc)--Hate to go before a grand jury,
and ask them if they feel the same way the Gov't feels--Not all XXX is taboo,
just select areas are documented/known to be a violation of law, this disc has
directories devoted to the "Taboo", and it makes it intentional vs accidental
inclusion of a few random scans. The courts will hold the distributor liable as
well, and can charge them with distribution of Federally illegal
material.....that's why is is important that distribs know the products they
carry--Which brings me back to the Top 10 distribs in the US, none of them will
get near this disc for whatever reason for just this reason. T'aint worth
losing an entire biz because of a disc created by a publisher who is willing to
take a chance...1991 nobody worried, in 1993 the disc has no demand by
distribution.

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 1571
  To: DAVID STULTS                             Date: 06/29/93  8:51p
Subj: CD-ROM, discs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >     Nightowl 8.0 ..................................... $ 15
  >     Phoenix-CD (also shareware) ...................... $ 10

If you still have these titles, let me know where to send a MO.  Also the
approximate shipping amount for Chattanooga, TN.
                                                 Thanks,
                                                     Ron


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1572
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/29/93  9:56p
Subj: Best Nightowl 9 Prices                  Refer: NONE
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        **  PCJ Computing is ANNOUNCING NIGHTOWL VERSION 9 !! **

                Our stock of Nightowl 9 Shareware CDs is
                on it's way.  We should have them in stock
                     by July 2.  Order yours today.
                    676 Meg - 100% 1993 - 4,955 Files
                    (59 Assorted Categories of Files)
                      Suggested Retail Price - $49
                          Our Price - Just $38
                      CALL 1-800-547-7817 to Order.
         We will meet or beat any other special offers or pricing!

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1573
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93 11:24p
Subj: Some Great CDROM Prices                 Refer: NONE
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************** PCJ Computing - Partial CDROM List - 6/30 ***************

   ShareWare (** BBS Ready)          Graphics/Sound/Educational (cont.)
AB20 Amiga CD-Rom............15.95  Dinosaur Adventure MPC.........33.95
America's Premier 1993 Sharw.24.95  Education Master or Business...19.95
C Users Group Library........29.50  Encyclopedia of Clip Art.......26.95
California Collection........16.95  Encyclopedia of Sound..........14.50
CD Powerbox.............**...22.95  Fonts #1.......................27.95
Fred Fish On-Line(Amiga)**...49.95  Fontmaster #1-18.95....or #2...27.95
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware....14.95  Gifs Galore....................16.45
Gigabyte Gold...........**...24.95  Jets & Props...................38.95
Ham Radio (Shareware)........14.50  Lovely Ladies or Mother Earth..27.95
Libris Britannica.......**...52.95  Midi Music Shop................29.95
Lion Share..............**...26.95  Mother of All Clipart (23000)..23.95
Magnum Sight & Sound....**...28.95  Publish It v2.0 (with Manual)..32.95
Megarom 1 or SDN 1......**...19.95  Publique or Fresh Arte.........35.95
Megarom 2...............**...23 95  Publishers Dream Disc..........37.95
Monster Disc (2 Cds-92).**...39.95  Publishers Paradise............32.95
Nightowl Bus. Applications...22.95  Readers Library (2000 works)...28.95
NightOwl 5.0............**...17.95  Reference Library..............27.45
Nightowl 7.0............**...24.95  Sci-Fi (Pics/Sound/Files).**...27.95
Nightowl 8.0............**...26.95  Space Adventure................32.95
Nightowl 9.0............**...37.95  So Much Screenware (Gifs).**...27.95
Nightowl 8.0/9.0........**...67.95  Sound Works (Software).........18.95
Original Shareware 1992.**...16.95  Swimwear & More (SVGA).........28.95
OS/2 Archives (Hobbes).......14.95  Swimwear 1993.............**...28.95
PC Sig #9...............**...17.95  Talking Schoolhouse............36.45
PC Sig #10..............**...22.95  Talking Jungle or Classc.Tale..36.45
PC Sig #11..............**...24.95  Time Almanac 1990-17.95...1991-26.95
PC Sig #12..............**...24.95  VGA Spectrum ..#1-16.95.....#2-24.95
Phoenix v3.0............**...18.95  Wild Places or World View......23.95
Pier Shareware #1.......**...27.95  Women of Venus (Swimsuits).....27.95
Powerpak Gold...........**...22.95  Aircraft Encyclopedia..........35.95
SCI-FI (Pics,Sound).....**...27.95  Amer.Bus.Fone Book #1..$17 #2..27.95
Shareware 1993..........**...19.95  Animals SD Zoo (MPC or DOS)....26.95
ShareWare Overload...........14.50  Audobon Mammals or Birds.......26.95
Shareware Studio #1.....**...20.95  Bible Library (9 Bibles+)......28.95
Shareware Studio #2(NEW)**...23.95  Bibles & Religion..............14.50
Shareware Tiger.........**...24.95  Brit. Family Choice or Select..32.95
Sharew Extravaganza(4 cds)**.42.95  CD Cad v3.7 with manual........31.95
Simtel 20 (Gov't Sharw).**...14.95  Cinnemania.....................57.95
Software Vault #1.......**...22.95  Classic Collection (4 Pak).....53.95
Software Vault #2.(NEW).**...23.95  College Handbook (1992)........18.95
So Much Shareware #1....**...21.95  Complete Bookshop..............14.50
SO Much Shareware #2....**...28.95  Compton's Interactive Encylop..99.95
Sound Sensations.............14.50  Compton's MM Encyclopedia......68.95
Source Code (Unix/Dos).......19.45  Composer Quest.................37.95
Technotools (Programmers)....14.50  Consumer Information Disc......38.95
Top 2000 Shareware...........24.95  Crossword Cracker..............24.45
Windows 1993 or Winbox..**...27.45  Desert Storm...................34.95
Windows - CICA..........**...14.95  Dictionaries & Languages.......14.50
Windoware....................14.50  Elec. Home Libr.(250 books)....36.95
Window Master................19.45  Family Doctor..................29.45
X11R5/GNU CDRom..............24.95  Global Explorer (Delorme)......94.95
       Games/Educational            Great Cities of World 1 or 2...24.95
7th Guest....................52.95  Great Wonders of the World.....42.95
Adventures of Willy Beamish..28.95  Greatest Books Collection......44.95
Arthur's Teacher Trouble.....28.95  Grolier's Encyl. w/Ref Libr...229.95
Battlechess MPC..............29.95  Grolier Ill. Encyl. v2 (STW)...38.95
BattleChess Enhanced.........34.95  Grolier Ill. Encyl. v5 MPC.....47.95
Beauty & the Beast(Windows)..29.95  Guiness Disc of Records (92)...26.95
Carmen San Diego World Dlx...28.50  Inter. Business/Economic Atlas.24.45
Cd Game Pack v.1-19.95...v.2-26.95  Jazz, a MM history.............69.95
ChessMaster 3000 MPC.........26.45  Languages of the World.........47.95
Crossword Cracker............23.95  Library of the Future 1........52.95
DeathStar Arcade Battles.....14.50  MacMillan Dict for Children....38.95
Games 1993..............**...24.50  Magazine Rack..................23.95
GameMaster (Over 500 Games)..19.45  Mayo Clinic....................33.95
Golden Immortal..............24.95  Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing....27.95
Guy Spy......................46.95  Monarch Notes (Complete set)...63.95

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1574
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93 11:24p
Subj: Some GREAT CDROM Prices                 Refer: NONE
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******* PCJ Computing - Partial CDROM List - 6/30 - Continued **********

House of Games...............26.95  Nat. Geographic MPC Mammals....26.95
Kings Quest 5................24.95  National MM Parks Guide........27.95
Just Grandma & Me............41.95  North American Fax Book........48.95
Jones in the Fast Lane.......23.45  Our Solar System(Photos,Data)..14.50
Loom.........................24.95  P.C. Medic (Fix your PC).......32.95
Manhole......................36.95  Play w/Lang-Englh/Frenc/Span...49.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose........23.95  Pharmicist Guide to Drugs......27.95
Monkey Island (Secrets of)...24.95  Prophone Business 1993.........37.95
North American Indians.......49.95  Prophone(3 Set)-49.95..(7 Set)124.95
PC Gameroom..................28.45  Return to the Moon.............37.95
PC Sig Games.................23.95  Roger Ebert Movie Companion....42.95
Peter & the Wolf (Windows)...26.45  Sports Best on CDRom...........27.95
Secret Weapons of LuftWaffe..25.95  Street Atlas USA (Windows).....87.95
Sherlock or Shakespeare......16.95  Tempra Access Photo CD Softw...31.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1..24.95  TimeTable of Hist./Sci or Art..25.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2..54.95  Too Many TypeFonts (Laser).....14.50
SoundWav.....................28.95  ToolWorks Reference Library....26.95
Space Quest IV...............24.95  Total Baseball Encyclopedia....26.95
Spirit of Excalibur..........38.45  U.S. Atlas / Automap...........28.95
Stellar 7....................24.95  U.S. History...................33.95
StoryTime 1 or 2.............24.95  Visions of Saturn..............24.95
Trump Castle-5 casino games..28.95  World Atlas or US/World Atls...28.95
Ultima I - VI................35.95  World Atlas or US Atlas MPC....28.95
Wing Commander/Secret Missn..34.50  World Fact Book (CIA)..........24.95
Wing Commander/Ultima 6......24.95  World Traveler.................14.50
Wing Commander 2 Deluxe......57.95  World of Flight or Trains......33.95
Wing Commander 2/UUnderWrld..59.95  World Tour (CIA)...............23.95
Wrath of the Demon...........37.95
   Graphics/Sound/Educational      *************************************
Aesops Fables................29.95 ** We meet all legit / noncloseout **
Barney Bear-School or Space..21.95 ** prices in this echo. No hidden  **
Clip Art Galore...........**.28.95 ** charges for credit cards. Call  **
Clip Art Goliath (Pcx, Tif)..14.50 **for Adult Titles. Ship Worldwide **
Clip Art Heaven..............28.95 *************************************
Colossal Cookbook............14.50   Voice (24 Hours)    - 615-339-0235
Danger Hot Stuff 1...........18.95   Inquiries/Questions - 615-339-0235
Danger Hot Stuff 2...........24.95   When Ready to Order - 800-547-7817
Desktop Bookshop.............27.95   FaxBack (24 Hours)  - 615-339-0235
         Miscellaneous               Fax (24 Hours)      - 615-479-1047
Jokes & Pranks...............17.95   BBS (14400)         - 615-479-1047
1001 Utilities...............17.95   BBS (HST)           - 615-478-2890
Business Assistant...........17.95            CDROM Drives
Game Arena...................17.95  Pioneer 600A (Bare).........819.00
Learning Adventure...........17.95  Pioneer 600A with Kit.......849.00
Pentaminoes..................34.95  Pioneer 604X (Bare)........1197.00
QRZ Ham Radio................24.95  Pioneer 604X with Kit......1297.00
Giga Games...................28.95  Mitsumi 350ms Int w/Int. Kit - 195
SpaceQuest4/Kings Quest......34.95  Toshiba 3401 Int. (Bare)....455.00
CD Caddies....................4.95  Toshiba 3401 Ext. (Bare)....550.00

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1575
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 06/30/93 11:26p
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: NONE
Read: 07/08/93  5:28p                       Private: No

 TH>               ^^^^^
 TH> That's a heck of a buy... This time last year a one-off machine with
 TH> software cost about 8 grand.

It tiz....it tiz.....the price has been dropping steadily over the last 6
months for some reason.

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 1576
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/30/93  6:48p
Subj: NEC and Hitachi                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SP>    Does anyone know if you can run two different kinds of CD-ROM drives
 SP>   on the same system?I would like to have a NEC or other fast speed drive

Yup... I am running a Matubistua (or some weird name) and 2 mitsumis'

CJK

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 1577
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 06/30/93  6:49p
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BJ>   many.  All in all, if you don't have an adult CD and want ONE with a
 BJ>   variety of material on it, including a mix of nudes and "X", this
 BJ>   isn't a bad choice.  It's better than XXX Extreme (aka Physical
 BJ>   Therapy); better than the Nix Pix series (which personally I regard
 BJ>   as poor); and a LOT better than either Giffy Gold or Digital Dreams
 BJ>   with respect to the nude collection.  If you already have several

Hi there.. I LOVE your review! it is great for people that dont have the $$ to
waste on buying disks and finding out they are jsut trash.... I have 1 question
though. Since you have seen quite a few Adult Disks.... can you recommened me a
few good or great ones? I run a BBS so I would be looking for a disk with some
sort of file listing on it if possible. Thanks!

CJK

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 1578
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 06/30/93  6:59p
Subj: NEC and Hitachi                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TK>  Well, considering I run a hitachi3600u and 3 hitachi 3500's on one
 TK> card, a magnavox external on another card, and a mitsumi on yet another
 TK> card, i think it's safe for me to tell you that you'll have no problems
 TK> mixing cdrom brand names if you run them on seprate controllers and make
 TK> sure you use different IRQ's/Addresses on each

Hey dude! I was wondering if you could tell me if it is possible to run 2 or 3
MITSUMI's off of one card... I want to put in another node for my BBS... but
with 3 friggn' slots taken up by Mitsumi cards... I have no space. Any help
would be apprieciaeted. PS if you give me a name of a card that can do it..
please send along an APPROX. price! Thanks!

CJK

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 1579
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93  7:07p
Subj: I want a CD-ROM drive 4 cheap           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey.. I am looking for (yet another) new or used CD-ROM drive for a cheap
price. I run a bulletin board... so I am not concerned about access time or
transfer rate ect. I would like maybe and old Mitsumi or whatever else somebody
might have in there closet. Dont care if it is internal or external.... as long
AS IT WORKS! Please leave your replys here!

ATTENTION DEALERS: Maybe if you could give me a cheaper rate or a deal if I
bought a few CD's off of you, I could arrange some sort of advertizing on my
board.....

CJK

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1580
  To: JIM TAYLOR                               Date: 07/08/93  5:21p
Subj: Monster Media CD Review                 Refer: 5001
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> I will try to keep my reviews constant.  I don't work for a CD compan

We look forward to um... That's good stuff.

tim
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1581
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 06/29/93  8:08p
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BT>hey brice. the complaint was mostly with the distributor of the cd disks
BT>he told me via voice phone that my check was acceptable.  then when the
BT>package arrived, the story had changed. if i had known in advance that
BT>he would not accept my check , i owuld have made the proper arangments
BT>and either had the right amount of cash, or a money order..

Bubba, (or whatever your name is)

Let me make one thing clear here.  I NEVER, repeat N-E-V-E-R told you a
check would be OK for your first COD with us.  I clearly stated when you
called that the UPS driver would need CASH, CERTIFIED CHECK, or a MONEY
ORDER as payment for the CD's you ordered from us.  We were unfortunately
forced to take this policy many years ago when we first started shipping
COD, because 20-30% of the checks we received were bad.  Therefore, I
have never told ANYONE that a check, be it personal, business or
otherwise is acceptable on a COD order, so your above claim is absolutely
false.  Furthermore, when I spoke with you on the phone, you seemed
apologetic, and told me OUTRIGHT that you would reimburse us for the
shipping, and that a check would be mailed immediately for the lost
shipping charges, AND one of the CD's that you decided you wanted
after all.  Well, here it is some months later.  Where's my check?

To make matters worse, when I jokingly tried to jog your memory with a
gag about sending "Vinnie and Guido" to collect, you flew into a tantrum,
and flamed me THREE times on this public echo.  Here it is months later,
and I would just as soon forget about you and the whole mess, but you
keep bringing it up again and again!  Well enough already!  You brought
all this on yourself by stiffing us on a COD, then promising to pay for
the shipping, and then reneging on that promise and flaming me because
I reminded you of it!

You know, you could have avoided this whole conflict in a very simple
manner.  If you didn't have the exact amount for the COD, why didn't you
simply tell the UPS driver to return the following day with the package?
If you really wanted the CD's, that would have been the easiest solution,
so why didn't you take it?  Guess you were just looking for an excuse to
pick a fight with someone huh?  Well take your piss-ant attitude and go
bother someone else for a change.

.\\ike

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From: DON CAMFIELD                           Number: 1582
  To: ALL CALLERS                              Date: 06/30/93 10:15a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE:                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The Viking's BBS is now selling CD Rom Disks and the few listed below are
currently on hand and we are selling them.
Carmen SanDiego Deluxe  $22.50
WORLD ATLAS (ATLAS PAK) $$22.50
MAGAZINE RACK           $22.50
SHERLCOK HOLMES ON DISC $22.50
ANIMALS FROM SAN DIEGO ZOO $ 25.50
GAME PACK I             $22.50
GAME PAK II              28.50
Note prices DO NOT INCLUDE SHIPPING AND HANDLING
PLEASE ADD $4.00 FROR SHIPPING AND HANDLING OR IF YOU WANT i WILL SEND IT
c.o.d. AND YOU PAY C.O.D FEES ALSO.
TO BUY ONE OF THESE OR TO GET A COPY OF THE COMPLETE LIST OF OVER 300 TITLES
PLEASE LEAVE A MESAGE ON FIDONET 1:395/46 OR YOU CAN CALL [phone] AND ASK
FOR DON OR LEAVE A MESSAGE AND I WILL GET BACK TO YOU.
* SPITFIRE v3.3

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 1583
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93  3:49p
Subj: Used CD's for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the following used CD's for sale:

Lovely Ladies II(adult with 24-bit pics)          $35
os/2 archive                                      $25

will take cash offers only, or will trade for other adult cd's.



Ed Duchek
[phone]


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From: MICHAEL WEST                           Number: 1584
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93 12:54p
Subj: OS/2 Shareware CDs...                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello,
  Does anyone know of any NEW OS/2 shareware CDs? I'm looking for programs
  dated after 12/92.

                                Thanks,
                                Michael


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From: RICH JACKSON                           Number: 1585
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 06/30/93 10:27a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS TO TRADE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Re: Your Asian ladies CD, thanks, but I really had my heart set on it...

Maybe we'lldo some business in the future!
Rich

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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 1586
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 06/30/93  3:56p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mike!

In a message to Tim Helton <06/25/93> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS> TH>Isn't Mark Abb*.* Pier's top distributor?

MS> Not any more. <g>  (Sorry Mark - couldn't resist)

MS> .\\ike

Ohhhhhhh...... you never know my friend.....



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From: DENNIS STERNER                         Number: 1587
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93 11:55p
Subj: COMPTON'S MM ENCYCLODPEDIA              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


COMPTON'S MULTIMEDIA ENCYCLOPEDIA CD-ROM Disc - new in shinkwrap
with 90 page User's Manual -  Does NOT have needed drivers/floppy
disc.

For sale as is - $50

Call 717-637-2972

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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1588
  To: SEAN RANDOLPH                            Date: 06/29/93  6:50p
Subj: Re: USED CD ROM DRIVES                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

yes there is a large possibility I am asking $100 BUT WOULD BE OBO.
[phone].  Please call


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From: FRITZ VOECKS                           Number: 1589
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93 10:49p
Subj: Dead Drive                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a Fusion =    Nec Model CDR-25BJ external CD drive.. that seems to b
dead.   The power light will go an and when the computor tries accessing it the
light goes on but it wont read the disk and the disk doesn't spin..
I'm wondering if this is a common problem easily repaired or one of the hazards
of buying a lower end discount CD Rom drive..
Fritz

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1590
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93  3:22p
Subj: UP ALL NIGHT                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Just in, "UP ALL NIGHT" Shareware CD-ROM.  Approx 580megs, 5,100 files.  LArge
selection of Windows, VOC, WAV, Games, and more.  Only CDROM around that
contains some of the '90 CDROM Echo messages.  Look back in '90 and see what
people were talking about in the echo.  Special $24.00 in the echo.  Call
405-672-1708 for information.  VISA/MC accepted.

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From: CLARK PASCHALL                         Number: 1591
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/02/93 12:19a
Subj: Unix Clone...pd                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a copy of a Unix clone called Linux if anyone is interested.  For
a full blown sys. with Xwindows takes ~60M of HD.  A basic system can be
run on less (can't remember exactly 10M I think).  It comes on 30 HD
disks.  Leave mail if interested.

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From: CLARK PASCHALL                         Number: 1592
  To: MIKE WALKER                              Date: 07/02/93 12:24a
Subj: Posted In wrong area                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I posted a message to all in the wrong area.  I didn't notice that I was
in the CDSale area and posted a message on a Unix clone.  Please move it
to the correct area if possible. I'll pay more attention in the future.

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 1593
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 06/30/93  5:58p
Subj: OUR TRADE                               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

MB>I shipped my disc on the following monday AM.  I have a receipt from the USP
MB>to prove it.  I shipped it 2 day priority mail.  If it did not arrive until
MB>saturday, that is a USPS problem.  YOU DID NOT SHIP, PERIOD.  I did not offe
MB>tirade, I simply made it clear you were not holding up your end of the deal,
MB>and I wanted it corrected ASAP.  You still failed to complete the deal, by
MB>childishly, and vindictively sending back my disc.  You, for some reason,
MB>decided not to complete our trade, and this was your way of trying to shift
MB>blame to me.  If you got a better offer, all you had to do was say so, inste
MB>of creating this ridiculous scenario.  Give my best to to your mother.

Listen, Bozo, what I said was exactly true. There are several people in
this echo that can corroborate what I said. Not that I care what you
think. Your childish "THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE" is not acceptable to me. I
have no difficulty keeping my word, even if the product isn't what I
expected. Ask around the echo.  But I won't put up with some adolescent
moron with an attitude.
You need a sense of perspective. We're talking about you didn't get an
adult cdrom on time. No one died. No one lost their job. You just didn't
get your jollies a week earlier. I suppose your mother never told you
that you can attract more flies with honey than vinegar. Next time, try
to be a bit civil. You do know how, don't you?
As for my mother's stroke, it's not funny; it's not cute; and it's none
of your business.
Don't bother to reply. You've managed to earn the first spot in my twit
filter.

******************

ASIDE TO THE MODERATOR: I apologize for the ire. I will withdraw from
the echo if you wish. I didn't appreciate the outburst from some yo-yo
after a terribly tense week of taking care of my mother and helping a
quadriplegic to set up his computer.

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 1594
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/01/93  8:18a
Subj: OUR TRADE                               Refer: NONE
Read: 07/09/93  8:40a                       Private: No

TH>Why not call Terry?  A telephone is a wonderful gizmo and allows you to
TH>talk to someone *immediately*, instead of waiting 3-4 days as this echo
TH>requires.  Terry's number is

Tim,
Please don't give out my phone number on a national echo. It's unlisted
for a real good reason.


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1595
  To: JERRY MASON                              Date: 07/01/93  1:52p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> I will take the Book CD if it is still available.

    Sorry, sold it.

Eric


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From: SCOTT ELMORE                           Number: 1596
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/01/93 12:30p
Subj:  Adult Cd Price$                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ >I traded away my copy 'cuz I didn't even want it in the

    What is on it that makes it illegal?
                        --Scott

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1597
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 06/30/93  8:20p
Subj: Weekly Specials!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Lee!

Tuesday June 29 1993, Lee Noga writes to Mike Shannon:

 LN> She has been out of print since April--She is back, she is better, SHE IS
 LN> BUSTY BABES--Will be back with distribution in July--The new cover uses
 LN> FLAMES/FIRE inside the font, and the disc says Release 3.0, so you can
 LN> tell the difference between the old one and the new one--The back of the
 LN> cover is 100% different too.

I wonder how long it'll take John or Ismail to duplicate your new one?  ;-)

Later,

Dave.

... First Hillary, then Jennifer... now US!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1598
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93 11:48p
Subj: MORE NEW CD'S!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 THE NEW CD'S KEEP POURIN' IN AT STARVECTOR!
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 New stuff for July:

 BUSINESS ASSISTANT - Keep your business profitable and efficient!....19.00
 CD WINBOX - 660mb of fresh, new Windows shareware w/ built-in GUI....29.00
 COOKBOOK HEAVEN - 20,000+ recipes, cookbooks, diet programs, etc.....29.00
 DIGITAL DREAMS - 660mb of ORIGINAL adult GIF scans! No BBS ads.......29.00
 HOT PIX 5 - The newest from Windy City. 600+mb GIF's. BBS ready......34.50
 JOKES & PRANKS - Loads of practical jokes, gags, & trick software....19.00
 KODAK PHOTO CD - Photo CD Access software w/ sample photos...........27.50
 LEARNING ADVENTURE - Educational software & games for ages 5 - 12....19.00
 MONSTER MEDIA '93 - 420mb of PURE 93 shareware! No dupes. w/ manual..33.00
 NIGHT OWL 9 - The latest and greatest!  680mb of ALL 93 shareware....45.00
 NIGHTWATCH INTERACTIVE - Full-motion adult video. You control plot...65.00
 PIER 2 - Simply the best shareware CD out! See for yourself!.........45.00
 PORKWARE II - Newest adult release w/ 600+mb of great .GIF's.........37.00
 POWERPAK 3.0 - Classic shareware CD with no "surprise" inside........28.00
 PRECISION MAPPING - Like Street Atlas only better! Runs under DOS....88.00
 QRZ HAM RADIO - 3/93 US callsign database w/ 100's of Ham programs...19.00
 SCI-FI - BBS-ready CD w/ Science fiction games, graphics, etc........28.50
 SEEDY ROM MOVIE DISC - Full-motion video adult CD w/ film clips......45.00
 SHAREWARE STUDIO 2 - Brand new disc. No dupes to #1. BBS-ready.......27.00
 SOFTWARE VAULT 2 - 630+mb of ALL 1993 SHAREWARE! Outstanding CD!.....29.00
 SOUND EFFECTS LIBRARY - Loads of fun and interesting sound FX........34.00
 WORLD TRAVELER - Great collection of world photos....................18.00
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Special Offer #1:  Buy any 5 titles above and deduct 5%
 Special Offer #2:  600mb shareware CD or Windows Game CD only $6 w/ purch.
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1599
  To: ALL                                      Date: 06/30/93 11:48p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 IN STOCK!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS!   NOW IN STOCK - THE LATEST AND GREATEST
NIGHT OWL OF ALL . . . . . . . . .
                                    . . . N  I  G  H  T      O  W  L
                                              |   |        +=======+
PRICE:  $45.00                            ====|===|====    ||     ||
                                              |   |        ||     ||
SPECIAL EARLY BIRD OFFER                  ====|===|====    +=======|
------------------------                      |   |               ||
Order before July 4, and                                          ||
receive your choice of:                       +-----+             ||
                                              | $45 |
    . Software Vault 2                        +-----+
    . Shareware Studio 2
    . Powerpak 3.0
    . Night Owl 7 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $15 additional!

or  . Night Owl 8 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $25 additional!

>> PREVIOUS STARVECTOR CUSTOMERS CALL FOR YOUR SPECIAL PRICE!

CALL TO ORDER YOUR COPY TODAY! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-800-767-1284
OPERATORS (Rainie & I) ARE STANDING BY!

>> WE WILL NOT BE UNDERSOLD ON THIS TITLE!  FIND IT FOR LESS?  IF IT'S A
>> LEGITIMATE AD, WE'LL BEAT THE PRICE - GUARANTEED!

***************************************************************************
Plus, all Starvector customers between now and July 17th will automatically
be entered in our drawing for a FREE PIER 2 shareware CD!  Drawing will be
held on Monday, July 19th, with the WINNER ANNOUNCED ON RIME AND FIDONET!
***************************************************************************

----- NO PURCHASE NECESSARY -------- GREAT COMPANION FOR NIGHT OWL 8! -----

+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| To enter Starvector's PIER 2 GIVEAWAY, simply fill out a postcard with  |
| your name, address, and phone number, and mail it to:  Starvector       |
| Software * PO BOX 8160 * Yakima WA 98908.  All entries must be received |
| by Saturday July 17th to qualify.  Entry into this giveaway will be     |
| automatic for all Starvector customers placing orders between June 22,  |
| and July 17th.  One entry per person please.  Drawing held July 19th.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1600
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93  5:47a
Subj: Night Owl's #9 $29                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Night Owl's v.9 $29.
We also have hundreds of reasonable priced CD-ROM titles.

GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 1-800-373-0628
1-206-473-1634 FAX [phone] FAX

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 1601
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93  8:40p
Subj: More ROM titles 4 sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have one each of the following CDROM titles for sale at prices stated:

$10.00          World Traveler (Chestnut Title) Their first multimedia
                title. Most of the pictures were kind of grainy looking.
                Maybe they blew up good 320x200 pictures to 640x480. Also
                to get full benefit you must have a SB sound board and not
                a compatible. Lots of video util. files and their fractal
                pictures were nice. 434 meg. 3414 files.

$20.00          Media Clips DEEP VOYAGE. An audio-visual underwater adv. trip.
                Outstanding pictures on this MPC disc. 100 dynamic images in
                each of various formats; GIF, BMP, PCX, TIFF. 100 audio clips
                in VOC & WAV formats and 25 movies AVI for WIN.

$20.00          Family Practice Medline 1:1 Winter 1992. General medical
                reference work for families with reports of the latest
                research results through 1992. Interesting database.

$20.00          Pediatrics Medline 1:1 Winter 1992. Kind of like a super "well
                baby book". Again latest research results through 1992.

$75.00          SPECIAL*SPECIAL*SPECIAL  14 issues of NAUTILUS the WINDOWS mag
                on CDROM. These cover from beginning of May 1992 til the end
                of May 1993. (Yes its only 13 months but they issued every 4
                weeks after I got the first one..hence 14 issues.) There are
                hundreds of megs of movies (AVI), sound (WAV & MIDI), files,
                info, music videos etc.. The $75 includes the postage on this
                item.

All prices are firm and do not include shipping. For shipping: 1st item $2.00
2nd item $1.00 more, 3rd and above $.50 more each.

Sorry but to make this easier for me, these are for sale in U.S. only. No COD.
A money order gets same day first class shipping, and a check gets a 5 bank
working day hold. All orders will get a letter telling status of order, return
of monies, etc. as needed.

Send order to:

Paul Swider
509 Digger St.
Las Vegas, Nv.
89107

If you have to discuss anything about the titles or concerning an order,
please call me at [phone] from 1PM to 9PM PDST. Thanks.

>Paul<

... OFFLINE 1.50  "Of all the things I lost I miss my mind the most."

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1602
  To: BRIAN HURLEY                             Date: 07/01/93  6:33a
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BH> One question.  Does all the x-cd's gifs have bbs logos on them?
 BH> which
 BH> ones that you've seen?


So far, only FAO Gold, Digital Dreams (Ero Tek), and Giffy Gold have no
BBS logos (that I've seen). Smaller logos, for example Nitelog Imaging,
aren't objectional to me. It's the Nix Pix, McHenry, etc. that I think
detracts from the images.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1603
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 07/01/93  6:36a
Subj: Review of "digital dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JM> You probably meant the "producers"; it might be helpful for thes
 JM> others you do in the future to let us know who the producers are


Good point!  I was a bit fast and loose with the word "authors" when I
should have said "producers". Thanks!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1604
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/01/93  5:31p
Subj: Adult cd price$                         Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 MB> DK> Why is that?  Are there images on the disk that are that bad
 MB>
 MB> Nope, they are THAT good! [if you like REALLY weird stuff}:->


Let's agree to seperate image "quality" from image "content". Now the
latter part of your statement is correct: Nix Pix Vol. 1 has some really
wierd (and illegal) stuff on it.  That's image "content".  In general,
IMHO, Nix Pix image "quality" is pretty poor owing to their use of a lot
of their "members" snapshots, many, many of which are done with Polaroid
cameras (for understandable reasons).
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1605
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/01/93  4:55p
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CK> can you recommened me a few good or great ones? I run a BBS so I
 CK> be looking for a disk with some sort of file listing on it if po
 CK> Thanks!


No single CD is "perfect" of course, and as we all know: "Beauty is in
the eyes of the beholder."  Still, my experience (and the stats from my
data base) say that it would be hard to go wrong with Busty Babes, or
Ecstasy, or the PCPIX series.  BB and Ecstasy are both "BBS ready". Vol
2 & 3 of the PCPIX series include file descriptions, but Vol 1 doesn't.
HOWEVER, PCPIX vol 3 has a file with the listings for Vol 1 as well.
There are VERY few repeats across the PCPIX series and the images are
generally quite nice. If you were looking for just a few CDs, I think
you'd be happy choosing from these.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1606
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93 12:37p
Subj: GIF Name Data Base                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  I've gotten a couple of inquiries about my "GIF Name" data base, so
  I thought it might be useful to post a bit of info about it here
  since it was part and parcel of my review of Pork-Ware 1.  To keep
  on topic, I created this data base in order to compare GIF file
  names across so-called "adult" CD-ROMs.  Historically, there has
  been little originality (i.e. truly new images) across such
  products.  Instead, producers have been content to "re-hash" many of
  the same files that were already released on other CD-ROMs, and that
  have been posted on some of the larger adult-oriented BBS-s, many
  for quite some time.  This syndrome has spawned the potential for
  unwary buyers of "new" adult CDs getting ripped off by, in effect,
  re-purchasing material they already had.  This has certainly
  happened to me more than once, much to my chagrin.

  Since some CD-ROM dealers who also run BBS-s began posting for
  download the file descriptions for the adult CDs they had for sale,
  it has become possible to at least look at file names (and sometimes
  descriptions) before buying for some CDs.  While this practice is
  not very wide-spread, it is a start and certainly better than
  nothing.  Do to the sheer number of GIF image files that can be put
  on a CD (3500+ is not uncommon), to compare file names across CDs
  with any efficiency requires a computerized data base.  Over time, I
  have generated, loaded, and sometimes deleted the files listings
  from a goodly number of adult CDs - like about 30 in the aggregate.
  Today, the number of UNIQUE file names in my data base numbers close
  to 50,000.  The file names come from the following volumes:

           Seedy ROM 6-Pak               Seventh Heaven (aka Seedy 7)
           Busty Babes (1st ed.)         Ecstasy
           FAO-2                         FAO-3
           FAO Gold                      PCPIX-1
           PCPIX-2                       PCPIX-3
           Visual Fantasies              Pork-Ware 1 (recently added)
           Storm 3

  I deliberately left out (or removed) the file names from many older
  adult CD releases (e.g. Private Pictures) because they contained
  mostly low resolution images.  Today, in my view, it's unacceptable
  to include images of less than SVGA resolution.  Since I wanted my
  data base to help me with decisions about new products, including a
  lot of low resolution file names wasn't of much utility.  Also, some
  CDs (e.g. FAO-1, Nix Pix volumes, etc.) have only or mostly
  "customized" file names on them making file comparisons based on
  names from such CDs practically worthless.  (Sadder still, even some
  obviously renamed files have themselves been re-hashed on to "new"
  CDs!)  Still other CDs (e.g. Storm 1&2, XXX Extreme, etc.) were
  omitted because of high duplication with the selected volumes.

  That brings us to the file names themselves.  First, it's certainly
  true that just because two GIF files have the same name doesn't HAVE
  to mean they're the same image.  Secondly, it's also true that
  "different name" doesn't always mean "different image".
  Furthermore, if you read this echo often enough, you will sooner or
  later read a thread that discusses the "dash -" and the "underscore
  _" characters and their relevance to "data" CD-ROMs of all types.
  (By "data" I mean only to exclude purely audio CDs.)  The "dash"
  character is not acceptable to the ISO 9660 standard which most data
  CDs adhere to.  Accordingly, many GIF file names on CDs have all
  their "dash" characters converted to the acceptable "underscore _"
  character.  This means, for example, a file originally named
  "DS-F-123" USUALLY gets renamed on the CD as "DS_F_123".  I say
  "usually" because the file could also end up named "DSF123" or
  "DSF_123" or most any other permutation of its original name at the
  whim of the CD's producers.  Also, one finds that many names even
  without any ISO 9660 forbidden characters still get corrupted or
  outright new names when put on a CD.  Whom actually did the changing
  of course isn't discernible, nor is it terribly important.  What is
  important is "why" and to realize that such practices, intentional
  or otherwise, only add gravity to the increasingly pertinent "caveat
  emptor".

  Now, to meld these two discussions into one, let me say that I
  finally decided to construct my GIF file name data base from
  listings produced from DOS "DIR" commands executed against the CDs
  themselves.  Originally, I had used included text files on the CD
  such as "FILES.BBS" as source material for the file names.  Big
  mistake - such files don't exist on some CDs and some that are on
  the CDs are "less than completely accurate."  Also, I once
  post-processed the DIR listings to remove all "dash" and
  "underscore" characters in an attempt to homogenize out petty
  differences.  This proved to be of far less value than could be
  justified by the effort.  [As a side bar, it's interesting to note
  that the PCPIX volumes still manage to use the supposedly forbidden
  "dash" character in many of their file names.  How the producers of
  those volumes did it would be an interesting story if anyone knows
  it - I don't.]

  Given all of the above, one might ask: "So what's the value of your
  GIF file name data base?"  That's a legitimate question and one that
  I've given some thought to now that most of the effort of setting it
  up and maintaining it is behind me.  Here's my answer...After MUCH
  electronic examination and comparison of other measurable file
  characteristics such as resolution, image size, checksum, and file
  size, for my purposes I've determined that file name comparison,
  with all its faults and "traps", is still far and away the best
  discriminator of duplication where the practice of or potential for
  re-hashing is an issue.

  Where do I go from here?  Well, in spite of all the effort I've put
  into it, I really hope my data base becomes obsolete, and the sooner
  the better.  This will only happen if and when the producers of
  adult CDs start using only truly new material and quit re-hashing
  files.  I think market pressure will eventually force this to happen
  when we CUSTOMERS demand it by beginning to hold the producers
  responsible for their products.  How can we do this?  First,
  vigilance. As copyright laws in this domain are increasingly
  enforced and truly new material requires effort and expense to
  procure, unscrupulous, fast-buck producers will continue to attempt
  to foist old material on us under the guise of a new lusty label and
  packaging, and a lot of advertising hype.  Those not privileged
  enough to know about and use this echo are at a particularly serious
  disadvantage and will be easy prey.  [Many thanks to Bob & Tim, and
  all the sysops that carry this echo!]  Bottom line: the fast-buck
  artists will be with us for a while.  One form of vigilance can be
  in sharing data about real or so-called new releases.  One vehicle
  for sharing data is the "reviews" that I and others have posted on
  this echo.  Even though each such "review" may represent only one
  person's opinion, that's at least one more data point than we would
  have otherwise.  Such vigilance is made easier by the cooperation of
  reputable producers and dealers like Lee Noga, Mike Shannon, and Jim
  Lambert who have offered gratis or "on approval" disks for
  "no-holds-barred" reviews.  They are taking risks by doing this and
  we owe them thanks for it.

  Secondly, if you think you've been ripped off, don't just sit by and
  take the loss.  Go back to your dealer and try to get some form of
  compensation like a refund or exchange.  The dealer wants and needs
  your business.  If he gets a lot of flak about a particular product,
  he'll drop it and the producer will eventually get the message - and
  the sooner the better.

  Thirdly, when you find a reputable dealer, and there's plenty of
  them on this echo like Boris Osadciw who have developed a well-known
  reputation for accepting returns from dissatisfied customers, let
  the echo know so others can give them the patronage and ripoff
  problems can be avoided in the first place.

  The CD-ROM business is booming and will continue to do so for a
  while, IMHO.  In any "boom cycle", no matter what the product, there
  will always be those with agendas that don't include the customer in
  any role other than "sucker".  The customer in the market for adult,
  sexually-oriented material seems particularly vulnerable because the
  products appeal to some our stronger instincts.  CD-ROMs are no
  exception.  Accordingly, we CUSTOMERS need to erect (no pun
  intended) every defense we can to stay ahead of the adult CD-ROM


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1607
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93 12:37p
Subj: GIF Name Data Base                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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  fast-buck specialists.  My data base is one such defense.  If you
  have another (defense, not data base), I'm sure the echo would be
  pleased to hear about it as long as it's on topic.

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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 1608
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 06/30/93  3:30a
Subj: Reality Check                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BT> i had no idea that someone could go to work without any money in thier
 BT> pocket,  when i handed him a hundred dollar bill, he said he couldn't
 BT> change it...the change was only  9 dollars.....??????

Hey Bubba.....You can complain to UPS if you wish but you and others here may
like to know that it UPS policy that they DO NOT carry money around to make
change for anyone and are not obliged to do so...if a carrier does out of the
goodness of their heart, well, that's nice....don't count on it though.


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 1609
  To: PAL HAMMERSCHMIDT                        Date: 07/01/93 12:26a
Subj: problem with a cd                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

24 Jun 93 03:16, Pal Hammerschmidt wrote to Jim Sharrer:

 PH> acting up. The CD has a few scratches on it, but that shouldn't matter
(at
 PH> least it doesn't with Audio CD's....). Other CD's work just fine.

I hope you don't get many replies to this, but I believe that you are wrong.
Audio cd's, as I understand it, oversample (read the same data several times)
and then, if there is a discrepancy between the samples, average the samples
which were obtained for the data to either side of the discrepancy to smooth
out any weirdness that a scratch might cause.  You can probably see that such a
method would not work with binary data.

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 1610
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 07/01/93 12:59a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you are looking for Nix Pix #1, I have 1 copy for sale for $75.  After
months of trying to find it for less than $90, I suddenly ended up with two
copies.

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 1611
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/01/93  1:06a
Subj: Cd drives, software, &c.                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

27 Jun 93 06:41, Tim Helton wrote to Patrick Rosenheim:

 TH> YOUR LINE LENGTH IS TOO LONG.

It's more likely that you are not placing hard carriage returns at the end of
each lines (or your editor, etc. is taking them out).

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 1612
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 06/30/93  6:30a
Subj: Re: modem                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SP> TM> I've picked up a USRobotics 14400 modem but i'm still dnloaading

SP>   What's its access time and transfer rate?Note..this is CD-ROM echo.

Note this is CDROM_SALE echo.

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From: KEVIN WAKEFIELD                        Number: 1613
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/02/93  9:54a
Subj: New adult cd                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Announcing a new adult GIF/TARGA image CD ROM ---


            ***   WILD WOMEN Volume 1    ***


 - 600+ Megabytes, 2800+ files
     525 Megs of GIFs, 60 Megs of TARGAs, 15 Megs of utilities/misc.
 - BBS ready with FILES.BBS descriptions in each directory
 - Simple auto configuring MENU interface ( no hard disk installation)
 - GIF index "thumbnail" catalogs of all files
     80 images/index file, 1024,768x256 resolution
 - Simple and descriptive directory structure
 - Tons of new images never published on any other adult disc!
 - This is not a "knock-off" and does not contain "recycled" material
 - Professional quality jewel case artwork


  Available in August, 1993!!!!







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From: KEVIN WAKEFIELD                        Number: 1614
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/02/93  9:56a
Subj: Seeking distributors                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  We are seeking distributors for a new adult GIF/TARGA image CD Rom  disc
titled "WILD WOMEN Volume 1".  We are looking for distributors  both in the
United States and globally.  WWv1 is a quality, professional  product with
eye-catching jewel case artwork.  The disc will be available in early August,
1993.  We are now accepting dealer pre-orders!  Here are  some of the
highlights of the disc:

 - 600+ Megabytes, 2800+ files
     525 Megs of GIFs, 60 Megs of TARGAs, 15 Megs of utilities/misc.
 - BBS ready with FILES.BBS descriptions in each directory
 - Simple auto configuring MENU interface ( no hard disk installation)
 - GIF index "thumbnail" catalogs of all files
     80 images/index file, 1024,768x256 resolution
 - Simple and descriptive directory structure
 - Tons of new images never published on any other adult disc!
 - This is not a "knock-off" and does not contain "recycled" material
 - Professional quality jewel case artwork


  We can be contacted at:

              Digital Concepts, Inc.
              108 Stone Gate Way
              Mableton, GA   30059
              Phone: [phone]

  Thanks.....


       <<<  kw  >>>




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From: ROBERT BIR                             Number: 1615
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/01/93  8:23p
Subj: CD-ROM Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hello
  if this drive is still for sale leave me mail very intrested.
ROBERT A BIR
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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 1616
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93  5:32a
Subj: Cdrom production                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                       Four    Star    Enterprises
                     Custom CDROM production Service

  Our CDROM Recorder is in, and ready to serve you!   We can produce
  a Custom CDROM From your QIC 36/40/80 Tapes, or your Hard Drive
  overnight!

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     o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
     o Reasonable Rates. (We will meet or beat any offer)
     o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
     o Great for BBS Files, Document Imaging, and Permanent Archival!
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o  Up to 527 Megabyte CD's.  $1 per Megabyte. $85 Minimum, $139 Maximum.
   $50 for each duplicate after paying Full price for the first. o  Up to 650
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   $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first. o  CD
Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee. o  Free UPS Red label shipping (2 day Air)
to the continental US.

Terms:  Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
        checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are not
        set up to accept your Visa/Mastercard yet.


 ***   **  ***   **  ***   **    Special    **   ***  **   ***  **   ***
 For the months of July and August, all orders qualify for a 10% discount
 from our CURRENT pricing.  Offer ends August 31, 1993.
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 517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM - 6:00PM Monday - Saturday)
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Revision Date: 07-01-93

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From: CHARLES ADKINS                         Number: 1617
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 07/02/93  2:23a
Subj: Cd trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** Quoting Howard Malkiel to All dated 06-28-93 ***
> I recently purchased the new Digital Dreams CD, and although it it s
> great CD, I thought it was the McHenry type (XXX), and this one is
> R rated. If anyone out there would like to trade an XXX for this
> one, please let me know. Thanks.
>
> *!* DB 1.53/001777
>  * Origin: DSC (Datamax/Satalink Connection) * 215-443-9434
> (1:273/203)
>
>
[------------------------- End of Quote --------------------------]



Uuuhhh... Kinda Off topic, Ain't it?


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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 1618
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/02/93  4:42a
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: NONE
Read: 07/09/93  8:51a                       Private: No

TH>-> How about $4,800?  I can get you one for that plus shipping and handl
TH>              ^^^^^

TH>That's a heck of a buy... This time last year a one-off machine with
TH>software cost about 8 grand.

I'm pretty happy with the current pricing....    I bit when they hit $5099 and
I have mine now...

I've been told by several people that I was foolish to buy it with CD-WRITE,
and that I wouldn't be able to get it to work without a several hours of tech
support.   I'm either luckier than those people were, or I just know my way
around computers, IRQ's and what not better.  Because I had it installed and
running from out of the box on my own in less than 2 hours.

I *AM* looking around for better software.  I picked up a copy of "Publish
yourself on CDROM", which comes with a Demo version of EASY-CD.   It's not too
bad, once you resign yourself to using Windows :)

I've read a lot about ISO-Master - That is likely the package I will end up
buying, if I can just locate it...  <heheh>

Could you pass along any info you have about software for these buggers? I'm
especially interested in something that will do CD-Redbook Audio.

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 1619
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/01/93 10:37a
Subj: sellin' some Roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can You tell me a little more about Sherlock Holmes 1, must it have a
fast cd rom, because I don't!?
                             Thanks,
                                  Sam Figueroa
Sam's Software
[phone]
Manchester's Best Shareware Distributer!!!

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From: NILL TOULME                            Number: 1620
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93  5:46p
Subj: GOOD MAIL ORDER SOURCE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I just bought a Toshiba 3401 with Pro Audio Studio, cables, etc. etc. and
a bunch of disks from Kirk Jensen at CDROM Access.  Kirk has excellent
prices and an excellent attitude, and I recommend him.  His disk prices
are low enough that you can make your own "bundle".  His disk list is
too long for me to post, but here's his hardware info:
_________________________________________________________________________

Hardware Items (shipping on hardware at actual cost)
 Toshiba XM-3401B internal, Kodak PhotoCD Access disc, caddy         $449
 Pro Audio Spectrum 16                                               $165
 Pro Audio Studio 16                                                 $225
 Pro Audio Spectrum/Studio internal audio and SCSI cable kit          $15
 Complete kit: Toshiba XM-3401B bundle, PAS-16, and cables           $625
 Complete kit: Toshiba XM-3401B bundle, PA Studio 16, and cables     $685
 Sound Blaster Pro audio cables for Toshiba, Texel, Sony, or Chinon   $15
 NEW SONY Top-quality CD CADDIES (with CD order) ....................  $5

PAYMENT: VISA or M/C (no surcharge), checks, & money orders.
S/H PER ORDER: US $4, $8 DHL; Can $6 Air, $20 DHL. Europe $10 Air, $20
DHL.
Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan, Australia, NZ, $20 DHL. Otherwise actual
cost.

** VOICE [phone]  FAX [phone]   ORDERS ONLY [phone]
** CD-ROM ACCESS * 27361 MOODY ROAD * LOS ALTOS, CA 94022  M-Sat 7AM-6PM


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From: SCOTT HUNSINGER                        Number: 1621
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 07/02/93 10:27p
Subj: Cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > SH> CD's for sale:
 > SH> Wing Commander II Deluxe Edition
 > I am interested in this and maybe Sherlock, how much?
I think both are sold...thanks for the interest, though.
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From: JASON SAUVE                            Number: 1622
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/02/93  5:24p
Subj: EuRoPeAn RaCeR                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey, I'm looking to buy this European Racer game but am going to get a few
people's opinions before I do, so anybody that's got the game I'd like your
brief description of the game and what you think of it.

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From: BEN WARREN                             Number: 1623
  To: JEREMIAH CASEY                           Date: 07/06/93  2:50p
Subj: Cd-Rom For Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

well,jeremiah,i might take a little less,but this is an external unit with
it's own power supply and you don't have to fool with making sure you have an
extra floppy drive cable to plug into it or a place to mount it in the
chassis.i'd consider$
$150.00
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From: BUNNY MCELWEE                          Number: 1624
  To: SKIP OWEN                                Date: 07/06/93  6:19p
Subj: Comment 07/06/93 6:19p                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    hey just wanted to say sorry for hanging up earlier...I seem to be
having a real problem today with line noise...Probably because of the
storm...Again, sorry


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1625
  To: BRIAN DHATT                              Date: 07/07/93  9:59a
Subj:  NEC CD ROM DRIVE FORFOR                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


BD> TB> I have a NEC cd rom drive for sale with controller card for
 BD> $225. TB> The access time of this drive is 350 ms.  Call
 BD> 205-824-2552  and TB> be sure to mention you are calling about
 BD> the used NEC.
 BD> Please give me the model number and any other info on this drive
 BD> that you have.  Thanks!  Brian Dhatt

 CDR80  I can't find the book that came with it.

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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 1626
  To: DON NELSON                               Date: 07/06/93  8:47a
Subj: CD_ROM Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > VC> > Thanks, I'll have to pass.  I figured out I can get then
 > VC> > cheaply when I order
 > VC> I want to know who gives you the free caddies when you order
 > VC> CD's.
 > I didn't say free.  I said cheaper when I order CD's
 > ($2.49-3.49)

You're right - I didn't read the post correctly !
And still, who provides this service ?

Vikki

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From: CHRIS FREYER                           Number: 1627
  To: LOYD CRAFT                               Date: 07/05/93  1:52a
Subj: Cd rom burners                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LC> * OLX 2.1 * WOODEN STICK 3.1 - For Propping Open Your Windows


Loved your tagline so much I stole it.
CF.

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From: RON URBASSIK                           Number: 1628
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 07/03/93  3:59p
Subj: Adult cd price$                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DK>TS>> regarding Nix Pix I, your reply seemed somewhat short. <g>.. What's
DK>TS>> wrong with it ? You carry all of the others...

NIX PIX, HOT PIX 1, $89, 622 mb, 4901 files total. Descriptions.
Anal, beastiality, bondage, famous skin, fist, gay, transexuals,
water sports, etc. Semi wife-proof because of title. 12/91.

Send to:  GOOSEBUMP GRAPHICS   BOX 5167   MENTOR, OH   44061
or call:  [phone] (voice)  24-hours / 7 days
          [phone] (fax)

Free Shipping, same day, by UPS 2nd day air.
Foreign orders - free air mail shipping world-wide.

[ ] MasterCard   [ ] Visa   [ ] Amex    [ ] Discover
[ ] Money Order  [ ] Check  [ ] COD

CADDIES, $6.  Sony type.  Stainless steel mechanism.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 1629
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/04/93  9:59p
Subj: Turbo Pascal Shareware CD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware is now taking orders for the July 1993 TP Utility
Library, a collection of 680 TurboPascal 5.0 or later files with a database
with extensive information on all these and all known commercial Turbo related
products. As a special intro to EMS products, the TP Library on CD-ROM is $25
only if you mention you saw it on this echo. Also on the CD-ROM is a database
of 16000 PC firms and the 44,000 products they make. Call voice [phone]
or Fax:[phone]. E-Mail:[e-mail]. 30 day satisfaction
guarantee, of course. Shipment is scheduled for July 16.
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From: TOM CAMPBELL                           Number: 1630
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/06/93 10:16p
Subj: Looking for a drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Looking for a trade for a CD ROM drive - Like everyone else, I too have a
bunch of stuff to trade:

    Adaptec 1542 SCSI Card
    Future Domain 840 SCSI Card
    Western Digital 1003 MFM FH card
    U bunch of DC 2000 cartridge tapes
    40 meg IRwin Tape back up from a Compaq (not sure it works though)
    Cash

Yes, for the right CD drive, cash is definately something I'm willing to throw
in - but I'm NOT interested in a pure cash deal - I can get that through
Computer Shopper - and I'd prefer to get some of these cards off my shelf.

I'm looking for something I can connect to my DTC SCSI controller, or
something that has a driver card included.  I'd prefer a double speed drive,
but if the price is right (really cheap), I'll look at a slower drive.

Leave E-Mail here, or call me (Tom) at 919-231-7339 (Raleigh, NC)

Tom

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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 1631
  To: KEVIN MARTIN                             Date: 07/05/93  6:46a
Subj: I NEED SOME INFO.                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Kevin; It was the 1991 dos version.
Clint

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From: DON BRADEN                             Number: 1632
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/06/93 12:00a
Subj: magnavox CDD461 cdrom                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 I have for sale a Magnavox CDD461 external cdrom reader. Access> 650
ms. Reasonably good transfer rate. Has proprietary card and software to get
it up and running. It plays standard audio disks with no problem.A disk
caddy is not required. Good intro to CDROM. I am asking $250 Canadian but
am willing to consider offers. If interested please leave word on this echo
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From: NEIL ALLEN                             Number: 1633
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/06/93  4:04p
Subj: Busty Babes Release 3.0                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Vince Sorensen to All <=-

 VS> CD-ROM WHOLESALERS of CANADA will also be presenting their new
 VS> (its massive!) selection of titles at Comdex Canada in Toronto
 VS> July 12-16. Stay tuned for more information!

        Can you tell me more about this?  Is this going to be at a
computer/software show?


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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 1634
  To: JASON BUCHANON                           Date: 07/06/93  6:16p
Subj: STREET ATLAS USA                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JB>Call Mike Shannon at Starvector Software.  his number sshould be in the echo
JB>somewhere. Iwas talking to him the other day and he was telling me about a n
JB>disk comming out that's better than Street Atlas USA.

Thanks a lot Jason.  I'll give him a call.  But the search is out for
used copies of Street Atlas USA and Various Adult CD Titles.  If anyone
has anything in this line... PLEASE drop Al James a line!


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From: RYAN COZZUBBO                          Number: 1635
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/06/93  4:15p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone know where I can gat CD-ROMs that are full of anime?
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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 1636
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/04/93  8:16p
Subj: ROM DRIVES FOR SALE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi all,
As many of you know I recently had several Hitachi CDR-1503S external
CD-ROMS for sale. All of that group were sold immediately, and I have
just purchased a shipment of fifty (50) more used drives.
If you are interested in some of these drives, please call my BBS at
[phone]. These drives are TESTED and refurbished, and carry a 30
day warranty. I have references that purchased the drives if you need
some, so call today to reserve yours.
Hitachi CDR-1503S external CD-ROM DRIVES.
Bare drive............106.00
Cable..................13.00
Interface card.........71.00
One card will handle four (4) drives daisy chained together, so don't
miss out, call today!
Matt Bedtelyon
SysOp - MEG*A*BITE BBS
P.O. Box 21
Essexville, MI  48732-0021
1:239/675


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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 1637
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/06/93 10:06p
Subj: ANNOUNCEMENT                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 VS>   ** COME SEE US AT COMDEX IN TORONTO JULY 12-16 **

GREAT! (But Im not going to Toronto for it!) Please keep us Canadiens posted in
this echo!

CJK

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From: ERYN BAY                               Number: 1638
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/06/93  6:06p
Subj: Re: Office 3.0                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

David,

 EB> What can I get in trade for Microsoft Office 3.0?

 DR> I'll give you a Super_CD for it.


     That and what else?

     What is Super_CD? I saw it advertized for $23.00.  Office
     costs $395.00.

     What I am looking for is a few good recent Shareware disks,
     and an Adult Gay gif disk.  Or maybe 7th Guest and the
     new Kings Quest.

     If you want to contact me direct, my BBS number is
     918-225-0013.


... You tell 'em Brake, You've got the drag.
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From: ALLAN KENNEDY                          Number: 1639
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 06/27/93  6:10p
Subj: Cd drives, software, &c.                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PATRICK  I wish you could see the way your add spreads across and wraps on my
screen. You proablly have some good prices and I would like too check them out,
but your adds are so hard to read I just delete them when they pop up. I am
sure you would do your bussiness a great service if you would revamp the way
you write your adds.

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From: ALLAN KENNEDY                          Number: 1640
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 07/06/93  4:10p
Subj: Star Vector                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jerry don't be afraid to order from Mike Shannon ! I have ordered around $250
worth of cd's in the last three months. His service has benn excellent. I had
one bad cd in the bunch He replaced it at once no questions asked. As far as
prices go he matched or beat every lower price that that I knew of. By the way
I am in Va. and have no conection what so ever with him.

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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 1641
  To: CHARLES ADKINS                           Date: 07/06/93  3:31p
Subj: Cd trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CA>*** Quoting Howard Malkiel to All dated 06-28-93 ***
CA>> I recently purchased the new Digital Dreams CD, and although it it s
CA>> great CD, I thought it was the McHenry type (XXX), and this one is
CA>> R rated. If anyone out there would like to trade an XXX for this
CA>> one, please let me know. Thanks.
CA>[------------------------- End of Quote --------------------------]

CA>Uuuhhh... Kinda Off topic, Ain't it?
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How is it off topic???????????? In a CDrom sale/trade echo.

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From: WESLEY H. BIGJOE                       Number: 1642
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/06/93 10:58p
Subj: Re: New adult cd                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> KW>            ***   WILD WOMEN Volume 1    ***


> Any idea what street prices will be yet?
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> * Origin: The Bit Bucket * Houston, Tx * 713/496-9670 * (1:106/9670)

Hello I am intersted in the new Adult C Can you questions!
1. how many files are on it!
2. How meny file ares on it!
3. is there a files.BBS in each file area/DIR!

Please respond to P.C. Bigjoe BBS!! 1:105/1002

Wesley H. Bigjoe

... This message is made of 100% recyclede lectrons!
... Don't forget P.C. Bigjoe has the latest in 1993 files on 2 CD-ROM
... Over 20,000 files in 140 file areas ready for D/L request -=FREE =-
... Just call [phone] where wating for you!!

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From: WADE NORTON                            Number: 1643
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/06/93 12:53p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mike!

05 Jul 93, Mike Shannon writes to Jerry Mickish:

 MS> if you refuse a COD on me.  I admit this is my one weakness (if you
 MS> want to call it that), and I do tend to become somewhat "agitated"
 MS> when I go to the trouble to ship a package on the strength of a
 MS> promise to pay, only to have it kicked back.  Oh well, I'm working on

No need to work on it!  Why should you enjoy allowing others to shaft ya?

 MS> In short, if you treat me fairly, I'll be more than happy to respond
 MS> likewise, and then some!  Don't hesitate to call if there is anything
 MS> at all I can help you with.

I'll support that statement!  As a satisfied customer!
Mike we appreciate your services...
Wade

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From: WADE NORTON                            Number: 1644
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/06/93 12:56p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mike!

05 Jul 93, Mike Shannon writes to Bob Jackson:

 BJ>> Personally, I've never had *any* problems with Starvector. I expect
 BJ>> to do add'l business with them in the future.

 MS> Thanx ya old softie.  I just had a CD pressed with just your VISA #
 MS> on it so I'll never lose it.  8)  Gimme a call if you need anything.

Now that's a CD I'd be interested in buying.  How much do you want for it?
(g)

Wade

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From: STEVE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1645
  To: DENNIS STERNER                           Date: 07/06/93 11:42p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Dennis Sterner to All <=-

 DS> I have the following CD-ROM discs for sale:
 DS> 3.  National Geographic Mammals - $20
 DS>
 DS> Shipping is additional.  Leave message here or call 717-637-2972.

 I'll take the National Geographic Mammals, if you still have it.
 Let me know where to send check, and what you need for shipping.

 Steve Phillips
 704-374-2933


... 4am? Already? Oh no, not again!!
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From: STEVE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1646
  To: HENRY ARIAS                              Date: 07/06/93 11:46p
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Henry Arias to All <=-

 HA> I have a Windows CD-ROM for sale, it is called the Electronic
 HA> Library of Art. I have had it for about one months and it Works well
 HA> under  Windows 3.1 with a fast CD unit and video card. I paid $79.00

 Is this Renaissance artists only, or does it include a wider range
 of sources?

... Ask me about my vow of silence.
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From: STEVE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1647
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/06/93 11:55p
Subj: Secret Weapons                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have an opened but unused

Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.

Too complex for my taste. I'll sell it for $20.
Reply here or call 704-374-2933.

... A day without sunshine is like night.
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From: TERRY SCHREIBER                        Number: 1648
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/07/93 12:51a
Subj: ANNOUNCEMENT                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you are wholesale then how can you retail? Are you going to supply dealers
and then compete against them? You will not find very many dealers that will
buy from you under those terms in fact you will drive them to the competition.
Terry Schreiber
Sales Manager
Minitronics Canada Ltd.

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 1649
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93 11:31a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a copy of 7th Guest that I would like to trade for CD's. If you have
anything you no longer need, and would like to have this fantastic CD, leave me
a message and maybe we can make a deal!

Michael Sells


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1650
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 07/06/93  4:52p
Subj: Re: Night Owl's #9 $29                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Dang! Where were you a couple of days ago...Oh well, can I get a price
> list?
HI Chris,
Generaly I don't like to announce the products until they are in our hands.
Next time you can check with me :-) TTYL

Groupware

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1651
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 07/06/93  7:47p
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE:                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Dave!

Sunday July 04 1993, Dave Perkovich writes to Bob Hall:

 BH>> 10 line limit on ads, please.

 BH>> Bob Hall
 BH>> CDROM Echo Moderator.

 DP> What happened to Tim?

Haven't you ever heard of the movie, "Trading Places?"  ;-)


... Don't blame me... I voted for Bush!

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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1652
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 07/07/93 11:58a
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

yes i do know where mark. its GROUPWARE and NIGHTOWL 9 not 8 is 25 bux.
i think that might even be about 22% wouldn't you say?
heres his number if you doubt me, i have a recipt to prove it!

GROUPWARE
(206)-472-1400
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1653
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 07/07/93 12:03p
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I did ask the Ups man to come back. he was in a hurry, and    the fact
that my check was not acceptable offended me personally.
i wish to drop this subject ..........
bubba
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1654
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93 12:17p
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

i seen that mike shannon is selling nightowl 9 for $37.00
tell me is that extorsion or price fixing?

I just bought NIGHTOWL 9 for    $25.  from groupware...
the number is  (206)-472-1400 call and see for yourself!

mitsumi internals for $175. complete..........

he claims the lowest prices available.....MIKE you had better  drop
that $37. price tag to $24.95 if you want to be the lowest price guy.
bubba
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1655
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 07/07/93  4:18p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CDRoms for sale:

       Sherlock Holmes 1            $15.00
       Family Doctor                $25.00
(BETA) OS/2 Professional Dev Kit    $25.00
       Murmurs of Earth             $30.00
       C Users Group                $30.00
       Hobbes OS/2                  $15.00

Prices do not include Shipping, which is $3.50.
C.O.D. add $5.00.  For more info contact:

       Eric Bravick
       14014 Halstead Ct. Apt #408
       Tampa, FL. 33613
       [phone] (Voice)
       [phone] (BBS)
       Netmail 1:377/53.0

If you would like, just add up what you want, add shipping, and send a
check with a list of what you want.  Money orders are faster because
I don't have to wait for checks to clear.


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From: TYLER A. WUNDER                        Number: 1656
  To: ROBERT LEDERMAN                          Date: 07/06/93  9:20a
Subj: Oxford English Dictionary               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Robert:

In a msg of <Saturday June 26 1993>, Robert Lederman writes to All:

 RL> Does anybody know where to get the Oxford English Dictionary on CD-ROM?
 RL> I had heard that it is quite expensive.

     Just a note:  the OED is available in text form (yes, I'm suggesting you
buy a book, and not a disk) in a compact format.  Compact format does NOT mean
that it is abridged, just that the text is quite tiny and requires the
magnifying glass which comes with the Compact OED to read easily.  A minor
inconvenience, but as it only costs about $250-300 American, it's worth it so
long as the CD-ROM OED is so expensive (can't remember what the cd-rom version
actually costs, but it's quite a bit and only a savings if you compare it to
the 20 volume version of the OED).


Tyler A. Wunder

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1657
  To: GORDON CRAIG                             Date: 07/08/93  7:55a
Subj: cd-rom case                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


GC> I am looking for an external cd-rom case to house 6 Chinon
 GC> cds-435 units rather then purchase six external cdx-435
 GC> externals. The case must have a power supply , fan , and
 GC> scsi-centronics port on the rear of the cab- inet...can anybody
 GC> help me out?

 My external cases house 4 units.  They are $25 and the power
 supplies are $25.  I have a case for 2 units that is only 10 but
 it has no space for a power supply.  205-824-2552

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From: ERICK GROWCOCK                         Number: 1658
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/07/93  3:05a
Subj: Sony CD-Rom for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    Lets see, Cd-Rom titles included:

    MicroSoft BookShelf (1991)
    Languages of the World
    Mixed-Up mother goose
    U.S. Atlas
    National Geographic Mammals

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From: DUNCAN MARKLEY                         Number: 1659
  To: CRAIG MOSER                              Date: 07/07/93  5:58a
Subj: MAC CDs FOR $ALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CM > AMUG BBS in a BOX VII  -  $40
CM > GIGA-ROM V.4  -  $50

Craig, do these have the file listings on them in some sort of format so
they can be used on a PC based system?  (Some of us out here support the
Mac with DOS machines!)  Thanks

Duncan
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From: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                       Number: 1660
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93 12:45a
Subj: CD ROM SPEED VS. BBS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        I was looking into getting the 6 disc pioneer mini changer
 the access time on it is 600ms and the transfer rate is 153kb per
second. I wanna use it on a bbs. Can anyone that either has this drive or know
anything about the speed tell me if its fast enough so theres practically 0
wait state or close to it. What would be recommended. I know about the toshiba
200ms access time and all which is over $400.00. But its just going to be
online for transfers so i need to know.. Help.. Enough said already.. Lemme
know
                        HELP.................................

                        Michael
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1661
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/06/93  1:43a
Subj: <sheesh!> how's *this*?                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION             PRICE

 CDU        CDU - (Utility) CD-ROM disks                 0.00
 CDUCDCAD37 CDU - CD CAD 3.7                            35.00
 CDUSPEEDWA CDU - CD Speedway                           65.00
 CDUKODAKPH CDU - Kodak Photo CD                        25.00
 CDULIGHTNI CDU - Lightning                             56.00
 CDUMPCWIZA CDU - MPC Wizard                            22.00
 CDUTEMPRAA CDU - Tempra Access                         24.00



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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1662
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/06/93  1:43a
Subj: Let me try again.....                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION             PRICE

 CDX        CDX - (Accessories) CD-ROM                   0.00
 CDXCADDY   CDX - CD-ROM Caddy                           5.00
 CDXJEWEL   CDX - Jewel Case                             2.00
 CDXMEDIABX CDX - Media Box Storage Cases (holds 13)    15.00



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From: CHAD PATTERSON                         Number: 1663
  To: VIKKI CLAYTON                            Date: 07/06/93  8:33p
Subj: scsi controller needed                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey thanks for the help, I already did some research and bought the a
PAS 16 and love it.  I had that thing hooked up in a just a few seconds
and was off to multimedia land.  Thank you again, Chad.


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From: EDWARD DELGROSSO                       Number: 1664
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/06/93  9:43p
Subj: Cds = cd's, shareware [a]               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Jul 04 23:56>, Patrick Rosenheim of 1:101/330 writes:

 PR> PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600
 PR> Mastercard & Visa accepted. Posted on 07/04/93, @ 23:42.

 PR>  CDSPCMEDIC CDS - PC Medic                              30.00

      Can you or anyone else tell me anything about this disk????  I'm
interested if it is medical shareware.

ED

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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 1665
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93 11:16p
Subj: Multimedia "Kit" for sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks everyone for all of the responses I had on the CD-ROM drive and disks,
but I've decided to sell all of it at the same time for anyone who might be
interested.  Below is the list of items to be sold all together as a kit.

The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia-DOS (Video, Sound, Text)
VGA Spectrum - GIF's, FLI's, Demos, Games
1992 Guinness Disc of Records: Multimedia Version (Windows or DOS)
Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective I (Video Mystery)
The Original Shareware 1992 (8,000 Shareware Programs)
Phoenix 2.0 (Shareware)
Nautilus Introduction
Software Jukebox - LINKS Golf, Faces...Tris III Jetfighter, Berenstein Bears
                Fun With Colors, 50 Trial versions of programs
Sample This!! - Demo CD
CD-ROM Sampler - Demo CD

Mitsumi Drive:  350ms seek time
                150kb/sec data transfer
Sound Blaster Pro: Card, Software, Midi Adapter and Manuals

Make any offers - I'm pretty reasonable!  If interested, call [phone]
or leave a message here.  I'm looking for an offer around $600, but who knows?
Thanks.


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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 1666
  To: CHAD PATTERSON                           Date: 07/07/93 11:31p
Subj: FOR TRADE FOR ROM DRIVE                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Chad!!
     I may have just what you're looking for.  I'm selling a Mitsumi drive and
Soundblaster Pro with ten CD-ROMs for $600 or best offer.  Check out my message
and call me at [phone] or leave a message for me here. Thanks.

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From: JERRY CORNELIUS                        Number: 1667
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 07/06/93  7:07p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

04 Jul 93 02:42, Michael Kelly wrote to Bubba Therrien:

 MK> alleged poor business transaction.  Your command of the English language
 MK> and its appropriate grammar are weak at best.  Rather than further your

Surely you don't claim to invalidate his content because of it's presentation.
That's not a valid way to evaluate information.

 BT>> check around  first.................bubba

 MK>     I suggest that you keep your whining to yourself.  If your problem

He was asked for his opinion (we all were, the message was addressed to All).

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From: PATRICK SHEN                           Number: 1668
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/05/93  6:11p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have following CD-ROMs for sale.  All CD-ROMs are in New Condition. Add $3
for UPS or Priority Mail shipping.

Shareware Bonanza.  3 CD set of Sharewares.  Over 20,000 programs.  More
than 3 Gigabytes of files.  Largest collection ever!  Every category
covered.  Great for BBS use. (BBS ready)         --------------  $45.00

ChessMaster 3000  MPC.  The best chess program in the world.  Moves spoken
in five different notations.  Photo realistic boards and pieces in 256 color
3D.  Excellent for beginner or master.  With all original manuals and
Registration card.                    -------------  $27.00

Wing Commander/Ultima VI.  Get 2 award winning games on one excellent CD
Space simulation and Adventure.  With all manuals and Registration card.
                                             ------------------  $33.00

Mixed-up Mother Goose MPC.  Sierra combines master storytelling with the
classic rhymes to create this children's adventure game.  Children learn
early reading skills and get introduced to the world of computers.
                                          ---------------------  $24.00

Shareware Overload.  Collection of 6100+ Sharewares.  550 MB of Games,
Windows, Business, Sound/Music and much more.      ------------  $20.00

Deathstar Arcade Battles.  The most exciting arcade action and other games
of all time.                           ------------------  $18.00

SelectWare System.  The Ultimate Software Demo System.   ------  $10.00

If you are interested, please reply here to contact me at E-mail address
below.

Patrick Shen America Online: Pat Shen CompuServe: 72072,3612 InterNet:
Pat Shen#aol.com or 72072,[e-mail]

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From: RAY LEUNG                              Number: 1669
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/07/93  9:38p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mr. Shannon, I live in Canada and have a few questions:

1)  Do you take orders from Canada?
2)  Do you take Visa or Mastercard from Canada?
3)  Do you ship to a PO Box, I've got a PO Box and my Visa and Mastercard
bills go there too.
4)  How do you ship to Canada (USPS)?
5)  What are your shipping rates to Canada?
6)  Does your toll free line work from Canada?
7)  Do you carry a OS/2 specific CD?

Thanx for any info you can provide.


P.S.  Sorry for asking so many questions at once.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1670
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/07/93  5:00p
Subj: CD SALE!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> Bibles & Religion...$10
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     -- I'll take one.

BTW: Did you ever get any Oink-II in stock?
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1671
  To: KEVIN OYAMA                              Date: 07/07/93 12:19p
Subj: NIX PIX 1                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 KO> Curiosity has me interested in having a look at the "controversi
 KO> NixPix Hot Pix 1 disk; anyone have a copy they'd like to part wi
 KO> If so, netmail 1:105/38


Post a message here (and in CD-ROM) for Chris Conklin. I think he has a
copy for sale at $50. Good luck.
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From: DEAN PRICE                             Number: 1672
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 07/07/93  8:18a
Subj: Adult cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > DK>I was interested in purchasing an Adult CD but I have no idea which ones
  >are good and which aren't.  I suppose that will also depend on a person
  >taste..  My main interest in in Lingerie, are there an ROMS that contain a
  >good number of those types of pics?  I have also seen alot of messages
  >about Digital Dreams and Digital Dreams - The MvHenry Collection, has
  >anyoine seen BOTH of these and have a favorite?

I have Storm 1, It is very nice. A wide variety of GIF's and .gl and .dl.  It
also has an assortment of .fli's along with around 600 various BBS programs and
doorware...

As for Digital Dreams, I don't know personally, but a friend of mine ( Rich
Jackson ) has it. He said it is very good. Both Mine and his are BBS ready....
He does recieve this echo. or you can get him at 1:3817/12..

Good luck.

         Deano

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1673
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/09/93  8:48a
Subj: OUR TRADE                               Refer: 5039
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Please don't give out my phone number on a national echo. It's unlist
-> for a real good reason.

If you can't back up your opinions with a voice phone number, then don't
post.  What are you hiding?

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1674
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/09/93  8:56a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE:                  Refer: 5096
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->  DP> What happened to Tim?
->
-> Haven't you ever heard of the movie, "Trading Places?"  ;-)

I'm here...

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1675
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/09/93  9:12a
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: 5099
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> i seen that mike shannon is selling nightowl 9 for $37.00
-> tell me is that extorsion or price fixing?

Bubba, It's called good business.  Once a dealer is established and has
a reputation for providing good service, he can charge a premium - a
premium that his customers are willing to pay in exchange for good
service.  Businesses survive by working with high margins... The only
way to get high margins is by offering good service.

If you don't need good service, then don't buy from him... There's a
zillion $1.00-margin-fly-by-nighters out there who I'm sure can give
you a better price.

I've never cut anyone's feed to this echo, but you're pushing me to the
limit.  Stop whining.  This is your last chance, bubba.  EOT.

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1676
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/09/93  9:04a
Subj: Let me try again.....                   Refer: 5107
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->  PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION             PRICE
->
->  CDX        CDX - (Accessories) CD-ROM                   0.00
->  CDXCADDY   CDX - CD-ROM Caddy                           5.00
->  CDXJEWEL   CDX - Jewel Case                             2.00
->  CDXMEDIABX CDX - Media Box Storage Cases (holds 13)    15.00

Good job, Patrick... I can read your ads!  ;)

tim
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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 1677
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93  7:32p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I everyone,  Does anyone have a CD full of *.MOD's, *.WAV's, *.VOC's ect?

If you do please contact me

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1678
  To: RICH JACKSON                             Date: 07/07/93 11:13a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE:                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RJ>  Bob, you'd better make that TWO cups of coffee...

You got that!  Thanks for the reply.
BOB

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1679
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 07/07/93 11:14a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE:                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DP>What happened to Tim?

He is still around, I wandered off into the wrong echo.
BOB
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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1680
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 07/07/93 12:35p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MJ>Until then, I'll stick with the *ESTABLISHED*, *REPUTABLE* vendors on the
MJ>board such as Mike Shannon (StarVector) and Boris O'.

Seeing the "Boris O'" jogged something in my brain.  Nothing to do with
the current dealer flaming or dealer bashing, but it does deal with
Boris.  Boris is probably going to kill me, but I was looking back in
some of the '90 CDROM Echo messages just a few minutes ago, and saw a
message from Boris.  He was wanting someone to help him find a CDROM
that would run under his Telegard BBS.  Back in '90 Boris was quite.

Just had to tell this on Boris.

BOB
:-)

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From: JIM OXFORD                             Number: 1681
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 07/07/93  4:18p
Subj: Re: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE:              Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No

 > DP>What happened to Tim?
 >
 > He is still around, I wandered off into the wrong echo.
 > BOB
 > :-)
 >
  And that ain't easy with one foot nailed to the floor!

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From: KEVIN DEW                              Number: 1682
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 07/07/93 11:33p
Subj: Secret Weapons                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

What does this disc have multimedia? Or is this just another get richer disc
where they just throw a game onto a CD? If it's a big improvement, I might be
interested.

Kevin


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From: CLIF DANIEL                            Number: 1683
  To: ERYN BAY                                 Date: 07/08/93  1:42a
Subj: Microsoft Office 3.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you still have the CD, I have some titles to trade. Or if you wish
to sell outright. How much ?

I have :
  Comtons Encyclopedia MPC ( still sealed )
  Lotus 123 MPC CD  ( still sealed )
  Action Authoring MPC ( still sealed )
  Kings Quest 5  ( still sealed )
  Ultima/ Wing Commander Combo CD
  I have other titles also if interested in any let me know.

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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 1684
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/07/93 12:29a
Subj: Cd drives, software, &c.                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Your listing of discs is still messed up.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1685
  To: WADE NORTON                              Date: 07/08/93  1:25a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WN>I'll support that statement!  As a satisfied customer!
WN>Mike we appreciate your services...
WN>Wade

Thanks for the kind words, Wade.  Gimme a call sometime.

Bye,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1686
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  1:25a
Subj: BETTER THAN STREET ATLAS?               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD

TITLE:  Precision Mapping

DESCRIPTION:  A complete, detailed map of the United States, with search,
edit, draw, and print capabilities.  ZOOM in on any city, right down to
the zip code, area code, or even ADDRESS!  Look up addresses, measure
distances, plan travel routes, print laser-quality maps, and clip images
for import to other programs!  All in a user-friendly environment!

SPECIAL FEATURES:  Full CAD features with draw, edit, and control over
all presentation aspects, including text, alignment, color, line width,
etc.  OUTPUT to file (raster or vector), screen, dot matrix printer,
laser printer, or HPGL plotter.  DYNAMIC ZOOM in/out/all.  Window,
pan, scale, to any address, city, zip, or area code.  CLIP all or any
part of an image to a .PCX file for import into your favorite word
processor or DTP program.

FREEBIE:  Includes the latest edition of the American Business Phonebook
with over 10 million business listings, absolutely FREE!

REQUIREMENTS:  EGA or higher monitor, DOS 4.0+, 550K free RAM, 2MB of
expanded memory, 10MB of (temporary) hard drive space, and any ISO9660
CD-ROM drive.  Mouse recommended.

PRICE:  $88

Mike sez . . .
"If you think Street Atlas was great, wait til you see this one!  Better,
more elaborate features, and it runs under plain ol' DOS!"

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 BBS: 509-457-0206 COMING SOON!!  ONLINE ORDERING & CD-ROM FILE LISTINGS!!!
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1687
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  1:25a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 July 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 7/08
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........15.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00
 7th Guest.....................54.00    MIDI Music Shop...............31.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Monarch Notes.................64.00
 American Business Phonebk 1...18.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 2...28.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...43.00
 Amiga AB20....................16.50    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.50    Mother of All Clipart.........24.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.50    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....30.00
 Audubon's Birds...............26.00    National Business Directory...39.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............26.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    National Parks................32.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 4.2.................22.00
 Bible Library.................31.00    Night Owl 5.0.................23.00
 Bibles & Religion.............14.00    Night Owl 6.2.................24.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 7.0.................25.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 8.0.................29.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....15.00    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....37.00
 Business Backgrounds..........30.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Business Master...............20.00    North American Fax Book.......49.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 California Collection.........17.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...25.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    Our Solar System..............14.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-SIG #12....................28.00
 CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC Gameroom...................28.00
 CD Grab Bag...................19.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Phethean's Shareware #1.......18.50
 CIA World Fact Book...........24.00    Phoenix 3.0...................15.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Pier 1........................29.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....54.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............39.00
 Clipart Galore................30.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Clipart Goliath...............14.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........29.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....24.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............14.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Complete Bookshop.............14.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........125.00
 Composer Quest................37.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency...109.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........34.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....79.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....79.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........35.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Consumer Information Disc.....39.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........29.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Crossword Cracker.............24.50    Reader's Library..............31.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....37.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......14.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...43.00
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....28.50
 Desktop Bookshop (New!).......28.50    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Dictionaries & Languages......14.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 DTP Pro.......................28.50    Shareware Online..............28.00
 Eagle Eye Shareware (New!)....25.00    Shareware Overload............14.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Studio 1............20.00
 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Studio 2 (New!).....25.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 BBS: 509-457-0206 COMING SOON!!  ONLINE ORDERING & CD-ROM FILE LISTINGS!!!
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1688
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  1:25a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 2/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 July 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 7/08
 **************************************************************************
                                   2 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Empire Clipart................29.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......28.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound (New!)..22.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Find-It Webster...............39.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Shareware 2...........29.50
 Font Master 2.................28.00    Software Vault 1..............25.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....27.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..29.00
 Game Arena (New!).............15.00    Sound Sensations..............14.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    SoundWAV......................29.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Space Adventure...............33.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    Space Quest IV................25.00
 Giga Games (New!).............24.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Global Explorer...............94.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Street Atlas USA..............88.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Super CD 2....................29.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........49.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....18.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......49.00    Super Games For Windows.......18.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...27.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.50
 Hacker Chronicles.............27.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................14.00    Technotools...................14.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........29.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..32.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 House of Games................26.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Illustrated Holy Bible........49.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Too Many Typefonts............14.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Top 2000+ Shareware...........24.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Total Baseball................29.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Trump Castle..................33.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........15.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................27.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 King's Quest V................25.00    VGA Spectrum 1................15.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    VGA Spectrum 2................25.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........27.50    Visions of Saturn (New!)......25.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    Vital Signs...................39.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....15.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Library of the Future #1......54.50    Window Master.................20.00
 Lion's Share..................27.00    Windoware.....................14.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Windows 1993..................28.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........39.00    Windows Shareware Gold........37.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Wing Commander II Deluxe......58.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magnum One Shareware..........27.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........29.00    WizPak........................17.00
 Manhole.......................36.50    World Atlas MPC...............27.00
 Marketing Master 1992.........19.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............29.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak (New!).....47.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 BBS: 509-457-0206 COMING SOON!!  ONLINE ORDERING & CD-ROM FILE LISTINGS!!!
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: JOHN HIEB                              Number: 1689
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93 10:25a
Subj: Hot Pix 3                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello,
I have a BRAND NEW Adult XXX Hot PIX 3 disk that I would like to trade
for something in the rated "PG13 or R" area.  I would like to trade it
for something in the "Digital Dreams" realm.

If you would like to trade or buy it for $30 please call my BBS and
leave me a message.  The number is: [phone].

John.


 * QMPro 1.50 41-4522 * Forget RTFM, phone the author at home ...


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1690
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/06/93  5:57p
Subj: CD-Rom Prices                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Computer Works is now offering the following CD-Rom prices:

Up All Night..............$21           Computer Works
Night Owl 9...............$39           CD-Rom Sales!
Shareware Studio 2........$24           [phone] Voice
Software Vault 2..........$29           [phone] BBS 14.4k
CD Winbox.................$29
Digital Dreams (Ero Tek)..$32           Visa & Mastercard Accepted

                                                       Jim...
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1691
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/06/93  5:52p
Subj: CD-Rom Prices                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Computer Works is now offering the following CD-Rom prices:

Up All Night..............$21           Computer Works
Night Owl 9...............$39           CD-Rom Sales!
Shareware Studio 2........$24           [phone] Voice
Software Vault 2..........$29           [phone] BBS 14.4k
CD Winbox.................$29
Digital Dreams (Ero Tek)..$32           Visa & Mastercard Accepted

                                                       Jim...
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From: HENRY ARIAS                            Number: 1692
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 07/08/93  6:30a
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

SP> -=> Quoting Henry Arias to All <=-
SP>
SP> HA> I have a Windows CD-ROM for sale, it is called the Electronic
SP> HA> Library of Art. I have had it for about one months and it Works w
SP> HA> under  Windows 3.1 with a fast CD unit and video card. I paid $79
SP>
SP> Is this Renaissance artists only, or does it include a wider range
SP> of sources?
        It included a variety of works from paintings to sculptures to
monumental buildings, etc.... Later <Henry>

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From: DAVID BUCKINGHAM                       Number: 1693
  To: TOM MENG                                 Date: 07/07/93  6:59a
Subj: HPLINK                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TRIED USINH THE HPLINK UPLOAD PROTOCALL AND IT DOESN'T GIVE ME ENOUGH TIME ON
YOUR END TO ENTER THE FILE NAMES. ALSO, THERE SEEMES TO BE A FEW PAUSES
ESPICALLY ON SIGN ON WHERE THERE IS A BLANK SCREEN AT THE PAUSE. CAN'T YOU TAKE
OUT THE EXTRA PAUSES? LET ME KNOW HOW YOU LIKE THE GIF'S. I AM ADDING A TEXT
FILE WITH ALL THE DESCRIPTION IN EACH ZIP.
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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 1694
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 07/08/93  8:15a
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Got the CD you sent me - Hot Pics.
It sure satisfied my request for kink!
Although I can't get my BBS to recognize it yet, and it locks up every time I
run start.bat, I do believe that could be me - computerarilly disadvantaged.
I want to thank you for your business-like handling of a bad situation.

Vikki

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1695
  To: WESLEY H. BIGJOE                         Date: 07/08/93 12:28p
Subj:  New adult cd                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 WH> > KW>            ***   WILD WOMEN Volume 1    ***
 WH>
 WH>
 WH> > Any idea what street prices will be yet?
 WH> > --- FreeMail 1.07b
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 WH> >  PATH: 106/9670 113 15 116 13/13 396/1 209/209 105/30 376 1002
 WH>
 WH> Hello I am intersted in the new Adult C Can you questions!
 WH> 1. how many files are on it!
 WH> 2. How meny file ares on it!
 WH> 3. is there a files.BBS in each file area/DIR!


You've got the wrong guy! This disc is being published out of Australia.
I sent the note to them asking about street prices. So far, I haven't
heard back.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1696
  To: STEVE LIN                                Date: 07/08/93 12:30p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SL> used. It's more like somebody had scanned the stuff from somethi
 SL> irregular newspaper stock instead of from photo paper... that's
 SL> thing I can come up with.


I didn't have a better word so I used "grainy". Someone else said
"scratchy" and that's appropo as well. I also use the Stealth card but
with a Nanao monitor.  I never suspected either of them - too many other
GIFs from other CDs are razor sharp.
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 1697
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93 12:54p
Subj: CHANGES                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To everyone who purchased CD-ROMs from W.W.I. CD-ROM:

    Please note that as of July 19th, I will be representing
CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA. They have a selection of
100+ titles, lower prices, better service, and its a
100% Canadian owned company! I look forward to continuing to
serve you there! In the meanwhile, I will not be accepting
any more orders for WWI products, especially since I'll be
gone the week before in order to take in Comdex Canada.

    Vince
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From: BOB KELLY                              Number: 1698
  To: SULTAN QAMAR                             Date: 07/07/93  7:46a
Subj: Here We Are                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message originally to All, Sultan Qamar stated:

SQ>    Cheers BBS in beautiful Cambridge, Ontario, Canada is
SQ>    proud to be carrying this echo !!

And I'm so proud you told us about it...

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From: BOB KELLY                              Number: 1699
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/07/93  8:04a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>MS> I have a copy of The 7th Guest I would like to trade for other CD's. I
MS>MS> willconsider all trades. What have you got???

I have the following:

Phoenix 3.0 Shareware NightOwl Business Applications Disk
MicroSoft Small Business Consultant

Interested?

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From: BOB KELLY                              Number: 1700
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93  8:27a
Subj: Need some more Sony internal CDROM drives  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a BBS need for two more Sony CDROM drives (internal, 535's are what I
have now).

I would have only needed one, but a certain person (Scott Peterson) reneged on
a deal after I took the time (on my dime) to negotiate a price and sent him a
check for a Sony drive he had. Then I get my check back, saying the drive is
"not currently available". This is not mentioned for 'sour grapes' purposes,
but as a "heads up" for other people who may consider having dealings with
him.
Anyway, my standard offer is repeated as follows: I will pay around $100 for
each Sony CDROM internal drive you have. I have purchased my last two for $100
apiece, so I don't want to go too far above that.
Please echo here if you have one that you will sell for around $100 (and will
follow through on), and post your phone number.  I will call you on my dime to
discuss.

Thanks.

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From: DONNA MC LAUGHLIN                      Number: 1701
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/07/93  9:50p
Subj: Catalog for your products               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike:

    After all the good things I've been reading about you from others in
this echo, I'm interested!!!  (Can I join the 10% Off Club too? ;>)D )

    Do you have a catalog available listing titles, prices, etc.?  I could
probably show it to about a dozen people in my area and hopefully gather a
decent size order together at one shot.

    Please send me netmail at 1:273/80 with details or information on how I
could get in touch with you.

    Thanks in advance.

Donna

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From: COLIN TUTTLE                           Number: 1702
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93 11:37p
Subj: UP ALL NIGHT CD Review                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

UP ALL NIGHT

PUBLISHER: BHI, Inc.
Retail: $39
Telephone: [phone]

Review:

There are a lot of Shareware CD-Roms available.  Some advertise a gigabyte
of programs, others advertise 10,000 or some equally amazing number of
programs.  One of UP ALL NIGHT's strong selling point is its ability to
utilize every one of the files contained on the disk.
It has an excellent search engine that makes hunting for a file a simple task,
plus it has an added twist, the menu talks to you.  If you have ever found
a Shareware CD Rom to be intimidating or difficult to use, you should
check out UP ALL NIGHT.

Up All Night is a CD-Rom created for the end-user.  It has a VERY easy to use
search engine, that with a Soundblaster or compatible card actually talks to
you, telling you the commands you just selected.  There is even a brief
explanation of Shareware, urging you to register any program you find on the
disk, that you can listen on your Sound Card.

Normally I don't like the interfaces that are put on shareware CD-Roms.  On
most CD's I can navigate much better in DOS than I can using an often
clunky interface.  This is not the case with UP ALL NIGHT.  The interface
makes locating files easier than locating a file on your local BBS.
You can search by file names, or by words in the file descriptions. The
exceptional part of this is the speed in which files are located.  Searches
take literally seconds versus minutes on other Shareware Roms.

Another very well thought out feature of the UP ALL NIGHT DISK can be found
when you print a file list. When I get a new Shareware CD ROM, I like to print
out the list of various directories, so I can share the lists with friends
who might be interested in some of the files.
Normally, I have to carefully collate and staple each file directory with
its descriptions, as well as labeling each stack so I can find the correct
files to copy.  This isn't the case with UP ALL NIGHT.  I can print all the
directories I am interested in, because it puts all of the path information
with the file name and description  to make it easy to locate later.  The
directory also has a Date toggle, where you can either list the files date
in your listing, or to leave it out to conserve space.  For the sysop, or
the die-hard- I don't like interfaces, there are FILES.BBS listing in each
of the disks subdirectories.

When you configure the UP ALL NIGHT CD Rom, you can tell it your favorite
GIF viewer with path so you can view GIFs without exiting the search engine.
It's awful handy to have full file descriptions as well as the resolution
of each GIF before you view it.

OK, so far all I have discussed is the interface, the search engine for the
CD Rom, which in my opinion is excellent, and was created by someone who has
seen the problems with other Shareware disks.  It is a vast improvement of
other shareware disks which are just thrown together groups of shareware
files with little or no organization.

The disk was pressed in 1993 and there are a lot of 1993 files on the rom.
I think the total file count was something like 5200 files.  There are
games, GIF files that I've not seen before, as well as a wide selection
of VOC files, which can be played right from the interface.
The author wisely saved the VOC files as VOC file, not in a compressed format
such that you would have to decompress before using.

There really is something for everyone on the disk... clip art, Magazines/
Newsletters, device drivers, demos of commercial programs, GIFs, Games,
Databases, Utilities, Sound Card files,the list goes on and on.  There are
even copies of the Fidonet CD Rom Echo area from 1990.

UP ALL NIGHT is an excellent disk.  If you are like me, you will be up all
night playing with it when you get a copy.




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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1703
  To: JIM OXFORD                               Date: 07/08/93  8:07a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JO>  And that ain't easy with one foot nailed to the floor!

Just how long did you laugh before you entered this message? Hmmmmmmm
How ya doin yaoldfart?  Gimme a call.

BOB
:-)

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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 1704
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/09/93  9:02p
Subj: Re: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS!   NOW IN STOCK - THE LATEST AND GREATEST
> NIGHT OWL OF ALL . . . . . . . . .
> . . . N  I  G  H  T      O  W  L
> +--------+                           |   |        +=======+
> PRICE:   | $37.00 |                       ====|===|====    ||     ||
> +--------+                           |   |        ||     ||
> ====|===|====    +=======|
> --[ NOW SHIPPING! ]--                   |   |               ||
> ||
> ||
> Get Night Owl 8 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $25 additional!

Howdy, just got a CD-ROM and I like to know more about Night Owl ?
I run a BBS and I am looking for CD's to put online.
Thanks

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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 1705
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93 12:13a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

My boss wants 7th Guest (he has nothing to do at work).

What is the best price I can get?  He probably wants new.  I've heard that a
certain company here in town has it for $47.00.  I've not verified this, but
it does come from a reliable source in a local echo area.

Thanks,

.dn
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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 1706
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  4:14p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mitsumi internal drive for sale (2mo old) sellin' it just cuz I need the
money right now...no trades.
1 Mitsumi drive 150ms 150kb transfer
controller
1 Toolworks reference library CD
1 World Atlas cd version 2.0
Toolworks Encyclopedia 2.0
Media Clips DEEP VOYAGE CD
Digital Dreams Adult CD
no splitting up.....200.00


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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 1707
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/07/93  7:45a
Subj: FREE CD!!                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >TK> there are over 1000 (out of 5000) filename dups.  Oh well, can't have it

DR>Let's not confuse the issue... Pier 2 was definately out before Night Owl's
  >v9.0.  So, we certainly can't accuse Greg of "duping" Night Owl's.

 Yeah I know that, they probably just d/l files from the same source.

        ...tim klan
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From: REN JUST                               Number: 1708
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/06/93  7:35a
Subj: LINUX CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


LINUX AND INTERNET FILES ON CD-ROM

LINUX, a UNIX operating system workalike now available
on CD-ROM.  Includes GNU C/C++ compiler, X-Windows,
TCP/IP, sound card support and much more.  Only $49.95.

Also CD-ROMs available with source code and applications
from internet servers for DOS, UNIX, Amiga, C and Mac.
Call or write for listing.

To receive your LINUX CD-ROM call and order with your
charge card

or send $49.95 + $3.00 S/H (CA residents add 7.50% tax) to:

Just Computers!
PO Box 751414
Petaluma  CA 94975-1414

Voice 707-769-1648
FAX   [phone]

Internet: [e-mail]

Visa and MasterCard gladly accepted (No surcharges).


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 1709
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/08/93  7:08a
Subj: Starvector                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>Wow John, thanks!  And to think I didn't even have to pay you for that
MS>endorsement! <g>  Tell ya what, take 10% off your next order with us

Now you have paid him for his endorsement.

And, as a side effect, destroyed any pretense this echo had toward
objective comments.

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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 1710
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 07/09/93  1:08a
Subj: STREET ATLAS USA                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Al,
 I don't have a used copy but how about a new one for $50.00. Give me a
call at 803-481-2276 or net mail me at 1:3647/2. Many Adult CD's in
stock at great prices...

 David McSpadden CD-WORLD "Home of Great Prices"


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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 1711
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  6:12p
Subj: PC CDs - Magazine Subscriptions         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

For great prices and selection on CDs for your PC F'req CSSPCCDS.

Many titles to choose from, including the new NIGHT OWL 9! Credit cards
accepted.

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Low price magazine subscriptions. Almost 900 to choose from. Prices guaranteed
to be the lowest advertised! F'req CSSMAGS.

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For even more items, try our online shopping mall. 517-263-0273 or
517-263-0017.

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1712
  To: BRIAN DHATT                              Date: 07/08/93  9:02a
Subj: Re: CDROM Systems                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=>> Quoting Boris Osadciw to All <=-

 BO>> NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00

>>    Could you give me specs on this drive?  Is it MPC compatible?
>>    Also access time, transfer rate, and SCSI card maker/model.
>>    Thanks!


Sure, no problem !!

This unit is an External true SCSI unit that offers 450ms access time
with 150kps transfer rate. It's Novell, OS/2 and MPC compliant and is
caddless. It's a complete system, which means you get the drive,
comntroller, shielded cable, drivers and manual as well as the full
warrenty and head phones.

Need further assistance, please feel free to call us at 216-225-3263
and we'll be more than happy to help you.

We also carry other major brand name drives as well.

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 1713
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  2:33a
Subj: Wish List                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm running a BBS and I need to add a CD-ROM and a Shareware Disk.....

I need the most recent in shareware and a CD-ROM drive (preferably new),
that is MPC Compliant and be 480ms or faster....

If you have any offers please let me know or call my BBS directly

                  The Ignoreland BBS
                  Running VBBS 6.10 with a USR HST/DS 14.4 modem
                  Sysop:   J.P. Ladner  (Overlord)
                  [phone]   (Virginia)

Thanks ahead of time!
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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 1714
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  8:43p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I Need a CD packed full of recent to new shareware/freeware.....This is
for a BBS.....

I am willing to buy if the price is right or trade for all/some of the
below items:

Complete Wing Commander Library (Both I & II, ALL secret missions for
BOTH, Original disks, DOCS, and Boxes)

60 meg RLL Hard Drive in excellent condition (Full hight)

CD of completely working Demos of Windows programs like micosoft Excel,
word for windows, ect..Many more....1/2 disk is all IBM and the other
half is Macintosh software....ITs called "The Selectware System"

CD The American Business Phone Book....phone numbers and services with
over 9 million business

Castles (original docs, disks, box)

KQIV (original docs, and disks)

Windows 3.1 (Original Docs, Box, and Disks)



If you are interested in the above let me know as I need the Shareware
disk ASAP......or if your interested in just buying any of the above
please leave message here or call my BBS directly :

                        The Ignoreland BBS
                         USR HST/DS
                        [phone]

                         Running VBBS 6.10A
                         Speeds 1200 - 14.4

J.P.
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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 1715
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  4:11p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 !!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

             N I G H T   O W L   V E R S I O N   9

                  ***     675+ Meg.      ***
    IN STOCK!     ***   All 1993 Files   ***     IN STOCK!
                  ***    4,955 Files     ***
                  ***  Available: NOW!!  ***

                       ==> $49 <==

Night Owl 9 is getting rave reviews from our customers.  Demand has
been so overwhelming that a 2nd cutting has already been necessary.
This is the BEST, NEWEST, and HOTTEST Shareware CD on the market.

The new disk will sell itself.  The question is: with the buttload of
"me too" dealers in the nets hawking the product, why should you buy
from TCM?  Let me provide some reasons....

1) AVAILABILITY:  We have a *large* quantity of the disks in stock,
     ready to ship.  Orders are turned around with 24 hours.

2) STABILITY:  TCM has been around for over 3 years now.  We have been
     associated with Night Owl since NOPV3!  TCM is not only a dealer
     for Night Owl, but is involved in the preparation and production
     of the disks.  80% of the preparation, file gathering, sorting
     and classifying for v9 was done right here at TCM.

3) SUPPORT:  Because of #2 above, we KNOW the Night Owl disks.  We
     know the files, we know how to install the disk on a BBS and
     in stand-alone mode.  At TCM, Night Owl is not just another CD
     we sell: it is our *primary* product.  We are here to help if
     you have a question or problem.  It is for these reasons that
     Night Owl Publisher, Inc. designated TCM BBS the Official Night
     Owl Support BBS.  No other dealer can make that claim.  We have
     assisted numerous people who bought the disk from other dealers
     only to get a "duh...." response when they called them back with
     a question or problem.

4) VALUE:  We offer the disk at a competitive price.  Previous TCM
     customers recieve a substantial discount on all future Night
     Owl purchases (as well as other CDs and Computer Hardware, plus
     several *new* Night Owl products under development!).

5) PRICE GUARANTEE:  We will meet or beat ANY legitimate advertised
     price for the disk.  Give us the best, verifiable price you have
     gotten and we will match it.  Period.

You may order the disk from us in several ways:

  - Give us a call.  If we aren't there leave a message and we'll get
    back to you.
  - Send check/money order to the address listed below.
    ($49 plus $3 s/h)
  - Call the BBS and use our ORDER door to place a VISA/MC order
    while online.
  - Call the BBS and download NIGHTV9.ZIP.  An order form is included
    in the packet.
  - For COD, send us a fax or call the BBS and leave a message to
    the sysop.  Please provide name/address/phone information.

TCM IS AN AUTHORIZED NIGHT OWL DISTRIBUTOR:  DEALER INQUIRIES WELCOME.

TCM Computing                              [phone] Voice
Rt. 2 Box 130                              [phone] Fax
Midland, Va.  22728                        [phone] BBS
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From: GREGORY MILLS                          Number: 1716
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/07/93  4:53p
Subj: CD's Wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a source of CD Roms for my own collections and have been
thinking of selling as well.  Would appreciate receiving any details you have.
Unable to reach Comdex due to other commitments.  If you have a catalog would
like a copy.
Send to:  G. Mills
          22 Westchester Place
          Kitchener, On.
          N2B 3M6
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From: GREGORY MILLS                          Number: 1717
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93  4:55p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Looking for a cheap external CD Rom.  If you have one for sale along with any
CD's leave me a message.  Prefer to deal with someone north of the border.
Saves customs and exchange, etc.
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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 1718
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  6:00p
Subj: Mitsumi's for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have one LU002 mitsumi for sale. Internal, comes with card and cable,350ms
access time (I think) and 150Kb/sec transfer rate. I am asking $230 for it. I
also have a drive that looks EXACTLY the same, although it is sold under the
Tandy namw. They are identical in features. Both are brand new, I just have to
get rid of them because I want to get one of those CD-ROM card that can support
up to 4 CD-roms on one card. Contact me in this message echo, or preferibly
call me at home at [phone]. You can also call my BBS at [phone] or
FAX me at the same number. I will accept cash, cheque or money order.
Both are used... and are still being used until I sell them. Please note that
this price in in Canadien money.... 0.73x230 = $168 U.S. Better hurry, these 2
drives wont last long.
CJK

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From: DENNIS STERNER                         Number: 1719
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 07/08/93 11:03p
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Sorry, it's gone.
Thanks for the interest.

Dennis

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From: LEWIS BULLARD                          Number: 1720
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/08/93 10:47a
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Pat, I would sure like to read your ads, but the formatting just gives me the
shivers! Please try to straighten this out, so I can comfortably read them.
It's gotten to the point that I just look at the ad and click forward. This
is a sincere message, and not meant as any kind of flame.

... Ifyoucanreadthis,youspendtoomuchtimefiguringouttaglines.
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From: KEVIN OYAMA                            Number: 1721
  To: CHRIS CONKLIN                            Date: 07/08/93 10:21p
Subj: NixPix1                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


Heard you may have a disk for sale - do you still have it available?!

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From: STEVE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1722
  To: KEVIN DEW                                Date: 07/09/93 12:25a
Subj: Secret Weapons                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Kevin, not being a player of either version, I don't know if CD-ROM
version of SWOTL added anything different. I noticed there is an option
on the menu "Historical Overview" with several hundred pages of
historical information about actual battles. The cover on the cd pack
mentions also that it includes "four tour of duty extensions: HE 162
Volksjager, P38 Lightning, Dornier 335 Pfeil and P80 Shooting Star".

I doubt the actual game is different in any significant way. During
installation it loads a fairly heavy dose of software to hard drive
for optimal performance during execution (amount loaded to disk is
selectable, recommended dose is 2.5 meg). Just looking around it looks
like the cd-rom is full, so maybe it is more complete.

steve.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1723
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/08/93 11:47p
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BT>MIKE! glad to see  you write to me istead of everyone else. I thought
BT>this matter was laid to rest! I would have "PAID" for it if you had

I didn't "write" to anyone except the folks who were kind enough to
lend me their support, while expressing their various opinions of you
at the same time.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1724
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/08/93 11:47p
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BT>i seen that mike shannon is selling nightowl 9 for $37.00
BT>tell me is that extorsion or price fixing?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

First you say you want to put it to rest, and in your next message you
throw more gasoline on the fire!!  What's it gonna be?

BT>I just bought NIGHTOWL 9 for    $25.  from groupware...

Ismail's advertised price is $29, which I have gladly matched for those
who have quoted it, but as for the $25 figure, let's just wait and see
if he posts it.  If so, I'll be glad to meet or beat that too, but one
thing I'll never do is chop the bottom out of a market just for the sake
of saying, "I have the lowest price!".  It's well known in business that
having the LOWEST "advertised" price is not always the BEST strategy as
far as NET profit is concerned!

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1725
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93 11:48p
Subj: NIGHTWATCH INTERACTIVE!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

      WOW!!   New > INTERACTIVE < Adult video CD!  Only . . . . $59.00
      ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

        Introducing NIGHT WATCH, the first "Interactive" full-length
        adult movie!

        You make the rounds with a beautiful late night security guard
        as you check out the action in her complex.

        This is a custom-shot, full length interactive movie with over
        100 minutes of digital video!  Shot from the first person
        point of view, and viewed on a 320 x 240 pixel screen at a
        realistic 10 frames per second, Nightwatch Interactive is the
        first full length adult movie that puts the user directly in
        the action!  All along the way, you encounter erotic situations
        and interact with some of the most gorgeous women you've ever
        seen!  (Req. Windows 3.1)

        QUANTITIES LIMITED . . . . $59.00 while they last. . . . . .

        . . . . . . . Coming soon to a CD-ROM Drive (In) near you!

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1726
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93 11:48p
Subj: WINBOX IS HERE*HOT*WOW                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   ATTENTION WINDOWS USERS!  Looking for THE BEST Windows shareware CD?
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
     FROM THE MAKERS OF CD-POWERBOX . . . . . CD WINBOX 1.0 IS HERE!

      +------------------------+   +---------+   +-----------------+
      |  NO DUPES TO POWERBOX  |   |  640mb  |   |  40 FILE AREAS  |
      +------------------------+   +---------+   +-----------------+

      +-----------------+   +----------------+   +-----------------+
      |  VIRUS-CHECKED  |   |  ONLY $29.00!  |   |  MOSTLY 1993!!  |
      +-----------------+   +----------------+   +-----------------+

 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
  SPECIAL 2-DISC OFFER:  CD WINBOX + CD POWERBOX . . . (no dupes). . . $39
 +------------------------------------------------------------------------+

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 BBS: 509-457-0206 COMING SOON!!  ONLINE ORDERING & CD-ROM FILE LISTINGS!!!
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: TOM SIMPSON                            Number: 1727
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  7:50p
Subj: Cd Rom "bible Library"                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Am looking for a CD ROM titled "Bible Library".  Would like one that was
picked up in bundle at low price as I have limited resources.  Can be reached
at [phone] or on this BBS.  I check in usually weekly.


... Medics for Life - Christian living in action
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From: STEVE STACY                            Number: 1728
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/08/93  8:53a
Subj: Cde = cd's, educational                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Patrick,  Glad to see that your posts are aligning correctly.  Looking forward
to your post on Texel bundels.

Thanks,

Steve


PR>PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600
PR>Mastercard & Visa accepted. Posted on 07/04/93, @ 08:10.


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From: BRIAN POLAK                            Number: 1729
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/08/93  1:15a
Subj: Adult cd prices                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike Shannon stated this on 06-26-93 concerning ADULT CD PRICES


Hi Mike,
        Can you tell me more about Moving Fantasies and about the two versions
of Digital Dreams available, what is the difference?  What is on them; gifs,
text, animation?  Also, I am looking for a CD containing a lot of different
versions of the Bible, the Toarh, and the Koran for a research project.  It
should contain the King James version, and an original version in Greek (would
be nice, but is not necessary). Thanks a lot.

                                    Talk Later
                                         Brian
                           Internet:[e-mail]
                           Fidonetmail: 1:100/635




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From: BRIAN POLAK                            Number: 1730
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 07/08/93  1:39a
Subj: Which is best?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Joe Hayes stated this on 06-29-93 concerning WHICH IS BEST?


JH>The caddyless drives are about 1000 times easier to clean.
JH>If you are a smoker, plan on cleaning your cd's as well as the drives
JH>on a regular basis. I clean mine twice a month..

Hi Joe,
        How do you go about cleaning your drive?  I have a cleaning CD that I
use in my audio CD player, but it does not work in my mitsumi. Any help is
greatly appreciated.

                                    Talk Later
                                         Brian
                           Internet:[e-mail]
                           Fidonetmail: 1:100/635


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From: RICHARD VONZEL                         Number: 1731
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 07/09/93  2:45a
Subj: Which Is Best?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JH>RV>      What do you clean them with, I have 4 old Mitsumi's for my BBS,
JH>RV> and  I have to clean one of them daily it seems.

JH>RV> Thanks,
JH>RV> Richard

JH>I use the professional tape head cleaner that you can buy at
JH>radio shack.
JH>Just dip a swap in it and VERY carfully clean the lens.
JH>I run the older mit's here also. seems like they work well
JH>with a bbs if kept clean.
JH>Just wondering? if you have 4 of them, do you have them in
JH>the same machine? Mine only have 3 irq's available.
JH>I was aware that the newer ones have 5 irq's??


   Thanks for the info, I have 2 MIt's in a server and 2 in my workstation...

Richard.


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1732
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/10/93  8:38a
Subj: BETTER THAN STREET ATLAS?               Refer: 5131
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> TITLE:  Precision Mapping
->
-> SPECIAL FEATURES:  Full CAD features with draw, edit, and control ove

Will it export the maps to .DWG or .DXF?  And aside from it being DOS
based, what other fundamental differences are there between this disc
and Street Atlas USA?

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1733
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/10/93  8:33a
Subj: New adult cd                            Refer: 5140
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->  WH> > KW>            ***   WILD WOMEN Volume 1    ***
->
-> You've got the wrong guy! This disc is being published out of Austral
-> I sent the note to them asking about street prices. So far, I haven't
-> heard back.

Actually, this disc is coming out of Atlanta... Kevin Wakefield is the
publisher and I have the worldwide exclusive distribution rights to
the product.  We'll begin distribution in early August. This is a GREAT
product and we'll post more about it in the coming weeks.  Stay tuned.

tim
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From: VINCENT TESTA                          Number: 1734
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/08/93  6:31p
Subj: Re: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Tuesday July 06 1993, at 00:43, Mike Shannon Mentioned to All:

 MS> ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS!   NOW IN STOCK - THE LATEST AND GREATEST
 MS> NIGHT OWL OF ALL . . . . . . . . .
 MS>                                     . . . N  I  G  H  T      O  W  L
 MS>          +-+--+---+                           |   |        +=======+
 MS> PRICE:   | $37.00 |                       ====|===|====    ||     ||

 >>> WE WILL NOT BE UNDERSOLD ON THIS TITLE!  FIND IT FOR LESS?  IF IT'S
 >>> A LEGITIMATE AD, WE'LL BEAT THE PRICE - GUARANTEED!

Not to be rude or cheap..but the night owl 9's can be bought for $29 ;-)


Ciao, Vincent
...GoldED - World Tour - 1993

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From: ED BAILEY                              Number: 1735
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/07/93 11:34a
Subj: New CD's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 07-05-93 Vince Sorensen wrote to All...

 VS>                    ** The BUSTY BABES are back! **
 VS>
 VS>            North America's best selling Adult CD-ROM is here!
 VS> Busty Babes Release 3.0 features everything that made it #1, plus:
 VS>   - Even more original pics, not available anywhere else!
 VS>   - The best interactive catalog/picture viewer on any Adult CD-ROM!
 VS>     (I have not seen anything like it!)

  When you get everything organized, please supply some prices and tax
  references for us Canadians. If you are going to produce a catalog, you
  could drop one to me at:

  Box 425
  Souris, MB
  R0K 2C0

  Thanks
  Ed

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 1736
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/07/93  6:08p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <28 Jun 93  00:08:00>, Patrick Rosenheim (1:101/330) writes:
 >caddies                                             $5 American Business
 >Phone Book                              $23 Anim. Fant. 1 or 2
 >                            $30 The Animals
 >                $28 Battle Chess
 >    $22 Bible library                                             $26
 >Bibles & Religion                                         $13 Britannica
 >Select                                         $39 Busty Babes
I am very interested in your prices, it looks like you have some good deals
but it is very difficult when it comes out the that above. If you could fix it,
it would be a lot more useful. If you can, please mail a catalog to Ryan Denke,
5011 E. 18th, Casper, Wy 82609. Thanks.


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From: BARRY FRIEDMAN                         Number: 1737
  To: BILL VAN VLIET                           Date: 07/08/93  7:03p
Subj: HELP IN LOGGING INTO PIPELINE BBS       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BILL,

THE PIPELINE BBS FOES NOT ALLOW NEW USERS ACCESS TO THE SYSTEM.  I CAN'T EVEN
LEAVE A MESSAGE FOR THE SYSOPS.  CAN YOU LOGON AND SEE IF YOU CAN CLEAR THE
WAY FOR ME?  MAYBE GET ME A TEMPORARY PASSWORD AND LOGON I.D.?

THANKS

BMF

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 1738
  To: PROGRAMMERS                              Date: 07/07/93 10:47p
Subj: C/C++ CDROM for July                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its C/C++ CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
987 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:[phone], EMail:[e-mail]
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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 1739
  To: CLIF DANIEL                              Date: 07/09/93  8:15a
Subj: Microsoft Office 3.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

How much would you sell the LOTUS 1-2-3 MPC disc for?


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From: EARL BONSER                            Number: 1740
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/08/93 11:50a
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> i seen that mike shannon is selling nightowl 9 for $37.00
-> tell me is that extorsion or price fixing?

Bubba, you just told Mike that you wanted to drop this subject in your last
message.  If so, why this one?  Hasn't this gone on about long enough?
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From: TALLEY RAGAN                           Number: 1741
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/09/93 12:23a
Subj: Re: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-06-93 00:43> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS>> ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS!   NOW IN STOCK - THE LATEST AND GREATEST
MS>> NIGHT OWL OF ALL . . . . . . . . .

        Mike, would you send me one of your catalogs to:

        Talley Ragan
        12407 N. 11th Street lot G
        Tampa, Fl. 33612

        Thanks in advance.

                Talley



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From: HERMAN WIGGINS                         Number: 1742
  To: PATRICK SHEN                             Date: 07/09/93 11:13a
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Patrick!

Shareware overload, do it have files.bbs and also what the date on the
files..

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From: THOMAS KINNEN                          Number: 1743
  To: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                         Date: 07/09/93  9:37p
Subj: CD ROM SPEED VS. BBS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Michael!

In a message to All <07/07/93> Michael Giuntoli wrote:

MG>         I was looking into getting the 6 disc pioneer mini changer
MG>  the access time on it is 600ms and the transfer rate is 153kb per
MG> second. I wanna use it on a bbs. Can anyone that either has this drive or

On a BBS speed is not important if you are not trying to send the files
from the CD-ROM directly....  If you run multi-line you need BBS software
or a door program that will copy the Files to the HD before sneding...  I
run two 450Ms cd with no probelms and my room mate runs two 6 disk units
and 2 single disk units with no problems.....

                                Tom

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From: KEVIN ROBBINS                          Number: 1744
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 07/08/93  9:40p
Subj: Re: Secret Weapons                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 -=> Quoting Steve Phillips to All <=-

 SP> I have an opened but unused

 SP> Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.

 SP> Too complex for my taste. I'll sell it for $20.

I'm interested in purchasing the Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
from you for $20 if you still have it.
                                        Kevin Robbins

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 1745
  To: RON THOMPSON                             Date: 07/07/93  7:32a
Subj: Apple Cd-Rom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RT>   Can anyone out there tell me of the good/bad points of getting an
RT>Apple Cd-Rom drive. My daughter will be getting a Macintosh LC3 in a few
RT>months, and they recommended it. Is anything else better AND compatible?
RT>Sorry for the ignorance on this, but I am new to CD-Rom technology.

Ron,
If it's the integrated CdRom that comes in the LCIII, it's a good deal.
I recently bought a Centris 610 and spang for the internal cdrom model,
even though I had a Nec84. Be sure to get the 300Kps models. Stay away
from the older Apple drives and the new cute, black one.

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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 1746
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/09/93  6:12a
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


BT>he claims the lowest prices available.....MIKE you had better  drop
  >that $37. price tag to $24.95 if you want to be the lowest price guy.
  >bubba

I don't even know Mike Shanon but I have ordered from him indirectly
through my local sysop (who speaks highly of him), and intend to order
from him directly in the future. I do think that this has obviously
turned into a very vindictive ploy to discredit the man and I feel that
it has no place on this echo. If you have a legitimate beef with him
take it ti Small Claims Court, not here.
 ■ QMPro 1.50 22-2345 ■ Dogs come when you call. Cats have answering machines.


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From: PIERRE PROULX                          Number: 1747
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/08/93 10:35p
Subj: Re: Night Owl's #9 $29                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Ismail!

In a message to Pierre Proulx <07/04/93> Ismail Arslangiray wrote:

IA> > Do you accept credit card orders and do you deliver in Canada without
IA> > extra
IA> > charges?
IA> Yes, we do accept credit cards and Canadian shipping is $5. TTYL

Do you have a mailing address, so I can mail you all the info...

Thanks...


BTW  Do you have a catalog of all the CD's that you're selling?


Pierre

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 1748
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/08/93  6:34p
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BT>I did ask the Ups man to come back. he was in a hurry, and    the fact
  >that my check was not acceptable offended me personally.
  >i wish to drop this subject ..........

 UPS has to make at least 2 delivery attempts.
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From: JD BROWN                               Number: 1749
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/09/93  6:06p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EB> CDRoms for sale:

EB> (BETA) OS/2 Professional Dev Kit    $25.00

  All of the Beta OS/2 PDK's licenses have expired. Also, selling this CD
violates the license agreement. Check with your DAP rep.

 JD Brown
 DEV0580
 IBM Developers Assistance Program

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From: KEVIN WAKEFIELD                        Number: 1750
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/07/93  2:18p
Subj: Wicked cd                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Has anyone here seen the adult CD "Wicked" supposedly starring Terri
Weigel?  Just wondering what format the disc is, i.e., is it images (GIF,
photo CD) or animations?


    <<<  kevin  >>>


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From: CARL SLAWINSKI                         Number: 1751
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/10/93  3:41a
Subj: Dealers                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ahoy All!

Shortly, I'm going to be in the market for some CD ROM drives and perhpas some
more discs.

I picked up a Mitsumi a couple of weeks ago to look at, and I'm satisfied with
it's performance so far. If I can add 3 more on the same controller, I might be
interested in doing it that way.

I'm looking for the least expensive way to add the drives without giving away
all of the performance. I could live with 350ms drives around the $200 range.
(aka what the Mitsumi goes for). Maybe a little more if I have to.

Can any one give me any info on this multiple Mitsumi setup? Know if they have
a BBS #?

Also, If any dealers (or anyone who wants to sell stuff) wants to send me
literature, brochures, or whatever, fell free to do so.

Carl Slawinski
6342 Woodgreen Drive
Millington, Tn 38053

BTW, thanks to the vendors who have already sent info.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1752
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 07/09/93 12:12p
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No

 BH>   SLMR 2.1a   Think hard now!  Which one is Shinola?


You win the Tagline of the Year award!! (ROFLMAO) =(:>>
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1753
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/09/93 12:15p
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS>
 MS> ****************************************************************
 MS> ***
 MS> July 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last up
 MS> 7/08
 MS> ****************************************************************
 MS> ***


Your lists are line-wrapping again, big fella. Makes it tough on us
dyslexics (::-|
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1754
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/09/93 12:20p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> (Just kidding Bob - more like 10 bucks)


Well, it was $10 until my last order - now it's zip. (:<
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 1755
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/09/93  2:52a
Subj: Busty Babes Ships Next Week             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The infamous "Busty Babes" will be back on the market and shipping next week.
The disc was scaled back to 500MB which will solve some of the problems it
encountered on older CD players--It underwent major revisions, and most all the
original scans were replaced by the "True" authors etc..

The real excitement lies with the new interface--It was written by a commercial
company, and customized for us thus setting back their commercial release 7
days--The entire CD is viewed in pages (16 scans a page), and you click on any
of these "Thumbnails" and the GIF enlarges--Click on your "FAVORITE" area of
the GIF, and enlarge that piece to unbelievable levels.

Instantly pop up the areas of interest (categories on CD), and go off in
another area of interest--Has complete menu bar on the bottom, quickly fast
forward thru the libraries, click and ZOOM--THis is the first image managing
package on the market, the "New Generation" GIF/PCX for true image lovers--
Our interface was hard coded for 16 images, but the commercial package will
allow you to display from 1 to 1,024 images on the screen. It allows you to
click and drag your images around the grid and put them in the order you like,
and so much more--Finds the image dupes on your drives, and puts them side by
side etc...... to many features to talk about here.

Takes the labor out of trying to manage all those images on a CD--Now you can
jump around with a click of a mouse--and get away from having to see 1 image at
a time-Executes faster then any image viewer on the market--But this is not
just an image viewer, it's an image manager--The first of its kind on the
market--

How will you know which Busty Babes disc it is on ? Look for Vol 1 Release 3.0
on the front cover--

SHOWOFF! (tm), will open up a whole new world to you, and they have provided
their 800 number for technical support and ordering--The commercial package
direct is $49.95, and once you test drive "Busty"--Your gonna be hooked !


-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1756
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/10/93  1:57a
Subj: HOTTEST CD AROUND                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

/////////////////////  A  R E A L  S L E E P E R  \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
       Here it is, one of the most talked about CD's on the Market!
                          SOFTWARE VAULT II
   Over 640 Megs of Shareware Programs and ALL of them dated '93'
   There are NO DUPLICATIONS on this CD and only a 1% Dup rate to
   Night Owl 9. Super front end program and it's fully BBS ready !!
         Don't believe us, ask a fellow sysop who owns one !!!
                        PRICE - $29.00
          C.C.I customers, call us for your discount today !!
ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 - Tech 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

... Oh never mind!
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From: JOE BURKE                              Number: 1757
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 07/06/93  5:59p
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JM> I am sort of interested in purchasing some CD-ROMs, and would
JM> like to know if anybody has had any problems ordering from
JM> them. I know their prices are hard to beat, but I sort of got
JM> burnt once and would not like it to happen again.

As a matter of fact I just ordered two CD's from them last week. They where
super on the phone. Was told the CD would probibly be there Friday or Saturday
and they showed up Friday. Can't beat that.


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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 1758
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/09/93  8:05a
Subj: SHE'S BACK & SHE'S BETTER               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey everyone!
    The most talked about CD-ROM in the industry, the ultimate
connoisseur's collection is back! BUSTY BABES has returned with a new
version 3.0... thousands of sizzling pictures, text stories, and the
best interactive viewing system I've ever seen! (Its also BBS ready, by
the way!)  I'm proud to announce that CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA is
the exclusive Canadian distributor for this disc! Join us at Comdex, at
the Tradeshows booth, or give us a call when we return July 19th at
306-789-4654! By the way, this release features some amateur Canadian
models who've licensed their private collection to FLD, Inc... very
interesting stuff!         TTYL....

    .\\ichellea
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 1759
  To: NEIL ALLEN                               Date: 07/09/93  1:41p
Subj: BUSTY BABES RELEASE 3.0                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->       Can you tell me more about this?  Is this going to be at a
-> computer/software show?
   Comdex Canada is an exposition of Computers and Computer Related
merchandise primarily oriented towards dealers, wholesalers, and the
like. I believe the Toronto Metro Convention Centre would have complete
info...
   Vince
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 1760
  To: TERRY SCHREIBER                          Date: 07/09/93  5:45p
Subj: ANNOUNCEMENT                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> If you are wholesale then how can you retail? Are you going to supply
-> dealers and then compete against them? You will not find very many
-> dealers that will buy from you under those terms in fact you will
-> drive them to the competition (sic).

Hi Terry!

   First of all, I should note that Comdex is primarily a dealers/
distributors/wholesalers event, not a retail one.

To answer your question:
   The same way anyone else does. Many computer equipment companies and
CD-ROM suppliers that I'm aware of are perfectly willing to sell a
single piece at a "retail" price, and multiple pieces at wholesale
(I could name 3 who advertise retail CD-ROMs through this echo).
I am not interested in competing with the dealers I supply. I am simply
here to supply dealers who wish to have a quality Canadian supplier who
can give them excellent value where CD-ROMs are concerned, and the
end-users who do not have access to a dealer I supply. I'm afraid
I can't agree with your conclusion, especially since I can't agree with
the assumptions you've stated.

   I can be reached via netmail at 1:140/121, or by voice
at 306-789-4654. I'm not sure that the inner workings of economics
are "on-topic" for the CD-ROM echo, so we may want to continue this
thread in another manner.

   Vince
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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 1761
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/09/93 10:35a
Subj: CHANGES                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Whats your price on the latest night owls CD ??

J.P>
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1762
  To: ALLAN KENNEDY                            Date: 07/10/93  1:01a
Subj: Cd drives, software, &c.                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AK>PATRICK  I wish you could see the way your add spreads across and wra I'm
trying a *lot* of different options, Allan. Hopefully, ONE of them will work!
Thanks, Pat

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From: JERRY ZELLER                           Number: 1763
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 07/09/93  7:07p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Jeff - is this the mcp and the kodak photo type?  Jerry
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 1764
  To: GREGORY MILLS                            Date: 07/09/93 11:19p
Subj: CD'S WANTED                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I am looking for a source of CD Roms for my own collections and have
-> been thinking of selling as well.  Would appreciate receiving any
-> details you have. Unable to reach Comdex due to other commitments.
-> If you have a catalog would like a copy.
   Sure thing... they'll be printed by the time we get back (more like
the day after we leave!) so expect one shortly after the 19th.
   Vince
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1765
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/10/93 11:48a
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> I didn't "write" to anyone except the folks who were kind enough
 MS> lend me their support, while expressing their various opinions o
 MS> at the same time.


Mike, as a friend, this is *OVER* -- please let it drop.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1766
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/10/93 11:51a
Subj: Busty Babes Ships Next We               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LN> commercial release 7 days--The entire CD is viewed in pages (16
 LN> page), and you click on any of these "Thumbnails" and the GIF


Take note, other "thumbnailers" - THIS is a reasonable reduction. Small
enough to get several on a screen at once and large enough to identify
the image contents. Of it still remains to be seen if the *new* disk is
as good as claimed...(:>
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1767
  To: KEVIN WAKEFIELD                          Date: 07/10/93 11:58a
Subj: Wicked cd                               Refer: NONE
Read: 12/15/93  6:56p                       Private: No

 KW> Has anyone here seen the adult CD "Wicked" supposedly starring
 KW> Terri Weigel?  Just wondering what format the disc is, i.e., is
 KW> it images (GIF, photo CD) or animations?


She has a movie out by that title - also available on VHS. Haven't heard
of a CD version.
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 1768
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/09/93 11:02a
Subj: Spreadsheet cD-ROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its Spreadsheet CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a
dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
325 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:[phone], EMail:[e-mail]
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From: ED WILKINS                             Number: 1769
  To: CLARK PASCHALL                           Date: 07/09/93  8:19p
Subj: Unix Clone...pd                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I have a copy of a Unix clone called Linux if anyone is interested.
-> a full blown sys. with Xwindows takes ~60M of HD.  A basic system can
-> run on less (can't remember exactly 10M I think).  It comes on 30 HD
-> disks.  Leave mail if interested.
->
-> --- MsgToss 2.0c (r)
->  * Origin: Dynamic RBBS [phone] * Pensacola, Florida (1:3612/18
->
How much do ya want for the disk, if its still around?


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1770
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 07/11/93  9:25a
Subj: SHE'S BACK & SHE'S BETTER               Refer: 5203
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> 306-789-4654! By the way, this release features some amateur Canadian
-> models who've licensed their private collection to FLD, Inc... very

Are the amateur model(s) the same ones I'm thinking about?  If so, get
me a copy ASAP!

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1771
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  9:59p
Subj: Big Money...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Tribune Co. has come to our little party... Tribune is paying 57 million
in *cash* for Compton's Multimedia Publishing Group.  They're also
forking out 40 million (cash & stock) for Contemporary Books (publishers
of educational & self-help stuff).  100 million.  Bam.

I wonder if Tribune will publish any multimedia educational CDs?

tim
moderator
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From: JIM REED                               Number: 1772
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/09/93  5:06p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>I have a copy of 7th Guest that I would like to trade for CD's. If you have
MS>anything you no longer need, and would like to have this fantastic CD,
leave
MS>a message and maybe we can make a deal!

Hi Michael;
        I have an adult CD, Animated Fantasies Vol 2 that I would trade
        for 7TH.  Just drop me a line if your interested.
                                /JIM/

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From: MICHAEL CRAM                           Number: 1773
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/09/93  8:09p
Subj: SONY CDU-7205/N                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    I have a barely used sony CDU 7205/n for sale.  It's an external
slim liny CD ROM drive using the Sony bus card.  Reads CD-ROM 1 and 2
disks, audio combined cd-rom, High Sierra, ISO-9660, Red and Yellow book
audio and audio CD's.

600 KB/sec transfer burst, 340 Millisecond ac


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1774
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 07/10/93 10:31p
Subj: 30 CD DRIVES $130 EACH                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 Used Hitachi cd rom drives $130 each or...

  4 used Hitachi  internal  3500  drives  with  an  external  case,
  controller  card,  cables,  caddies,  screws,  drivers,  30   day
  warranty,  INCLUDING shipping in the US via  US  mail  AND  c.o.d
  charges   ...   ONLY     $600    total.      Call    205-824-2552

  Power supplies are available for $25,
  External cable is available for $30,
  2 nd day shipping is available for $25.
  Cream  of  the  Crop  Shareware  with  this   package   for $19
  ...and/or other popular cd titles.

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From: PIERRE PROULX                          Number: 1775
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/09/93  8:52p
Subj: ANNOUNCEMENT                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Vince!

In a message to Canadian Cd-rom Users <07/05/93> Vince Sorensen wrote:

VS> Attention Canadians!  CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA expands
VS> July 19th!  Finally, there's a Canadian source for CD-ROMs
VS> that has plenty in stock, and reasonable prices.  Dealers

Would you have Night Owl #9 and at what price?

Thanks

Pierre Proulx

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From: PIERRE PROULX                          Number: 1776
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/09/93  8:54p
Subj: BUSTY BABES RELEASE 3.0                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Vince!

In a message to All <07/05/93> Vince Sorensen wrote:

VS>                    ** The BUSTY BABES are back! **

VS>            North America's best selling Adult CD-ROM is here!
VS> Busty Babes Release 3.0 features everything that made it #1, plus:

You don't give any price on this one... how much is it?


Pierre

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From: TODD BOWMAN                            Number: 1777
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/10/93 11:41a
Subj: SBP CD-ROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a SBP card that I would like to connect a CD-ROM drive
to.  Does anybody have one that I might be able to pick up
at a good price?  Thanx.

Todd






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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 1778
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/08/93  3:41p
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Bubba!,
     Ya know, I disliked your little campaign against Mike so much I just
called and ordered a couple CD's from him. Seemed like the least I could do.
Have a nice day.
      DCK



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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 1779
  To: GORDON CRAIG                             Date: 07/08/93 10:21a
Subj: cd-rom case                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GC> I am looking for an external cd-rom case to house 6 Chinon cds-435 units
GC> rather then purchase six external cdx-435 externals. The case must have
GC> a power supply , fan , and scsi-centronics port on the rear of the cab-
GC> inet...can anybody help me out?

Go buy a mid tower case w/ 6 drive bays instead of external drive cases.
Much cheaper.  Power

 * OLX 2.1 TD * Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch!


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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 1780
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 07/09/93 10:00a
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I everyone,  Does anyone have a CD full of *.MOD's, *.WAV's, *.VOC's
ect?
 >

I am interested also.  I know a SYSOP locally who plans to make a CD
with about 1000 mod files, tons of MIDI, VOC, as well as samples, etc.
He is taking orders now and when he gets about 40 orders, he will cut
the CD.  $25.  Let me know if anyone is interested.

In the interm, I am looking for a CD NOW with mod files.  Let me know
if you know of one.  Thanks.
.

 * KWQ/2 1.0C *


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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 1781
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/09/93  7:55p
Subj: Trade?                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for the following CDs:

The 7th Guest or other cool games
OS/2 stuff
Nix Pix or Any Adult CD except Digital Dreams

I have:

Superstor 2.0 (manuals, reg. card, etc), 1 meg of 70ns simms, and
Generic Cadd 5.0 (v1.0) (just the disk, I lost everything else).

Let me know what you have and maybe we can work something out?
415-586-8140 or leave message here.  Thanks.


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch!


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From: JOHN CUSTER                            Number: 1782
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 07/09/93  8:50a
Subj: Secret Weapons                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

SP>.I have an opened but unused

SP>.Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.

SP>.Too complex for my taste. I'll sell it for $20.
  >.Reply here or call 704-374-2933.

I'll Take it Were Do I Send The Payment to,,   John
 ■ QMPro 1.50 93-1426 ■ ACK and you shall receive.


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From: MICHAEL COLLIER                        Number: 1783
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/10/93  8:45a
Subj: Cdrom Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO> -=>> Quoting Boris Osadciw to All <=-
BO>
BO> BO>> NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
BO>

BO>This unit is an External true SCSI unit that offers 450ms access time
BO>with 150kps transfer rate. It's Novell, OS/2 and MPC compliant and is
BO>caddless. It's a complete system, which means you get the drive,
BO>comntroller, shielded cable, drivers and manual as well as the full
BO>warrenty and head phones.
BO>
BO>Need further assistance, please feel free to call us at 216-225-3263
BO>and we'll be more than happy to help you.

   Hi Boris, How much extra for a notebook interface for the NEC 36?
Also, do you carry the Microsolutions Backpack drives?

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1784
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/09/93 10:29p
Subj: Windows!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*****************************************************************************
************************  CD-ROM International  *****************************
*****************************************************************************

CD PowerBox v1.0 - An excellent collection of shareware designed with the
                 BBS SysOp in mind.  Has both a DOS user interface as well
                 as a Windows GUI.  Released 01/93.  $22.

CD WinBox v1.0 - This is THE BEST Windows shareware disc yet!  Has a true
                 Windows GUI for easy file viewing and manipulation.  Just
                 released (06/93)!  $29.

SPECIAL OFFER FOR FIDONET CUSTOMERS:

        Get both discs for only $39!  Please mention that you saw the ad in
        FidoNet, because these discs are regularly sold for $34 each.

                           * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
CD-ROM International       * Call our BBS for the latest catalog, or   *
[phone] (Orders)    * file request CATALOG from 1:344/79.  The  *
[phone] (Voice)     * catalog has been updated with new titles  *
[phone] (BBS/Fax)   * and lower prices.                         *
Cash/COD/Credit Cards      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

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From: TONY MACE                              Number: 1785
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/10/93  3:54p
Subj: Audio Cable Needed                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

I need a audio cable to go from a Toshiba XM-3201 (int) to my PAS16.  I am
currently using the headphone jack to the line in on the back of the pas and
this in a pain in the but.

Please call 308-487-5378 (collect even), least msg here or netmail at
1:14/[e-mail]

Tony

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From: STEVE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1786
  To: HENRY ARIAS                              Date: 07/09/93  6:36p
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sorry - my question wasn't clear. Does all the art (painting, sculpture,
and architecture) derive from one period; i.e., Renaissance? Or does the
CD include works from different periods?

thanks.
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From: LESLIE R. THOMAS                       Number: 1787
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 07/09/93  8:45p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jeff Jenkins to All <=-

 JJ> Mitsumi internal drive for sale (2mo old) sellin' it just cuz I need
 JJ> the moneyright now...no trades.

 I can offer you $140 plus shipping.  If you are interested give me a call
 at (817)  547-0960.  Thisoffer is only good if it is the model that
 is compatible with the Soundblaster Pro built in interface.  I ask you to
 bear in mind that these can be bought brand new for $227.


... Sorry, the Dog ate my Blue Wave packet.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: MARK SMITKA                            Number: 1788
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/10/93  3:34p
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS|I didn't "write" to anyone except the folks who were kind enough to MS|lend
me their support, while expressing their various opinions of you MS|at the same
time.

Mike,

I've been sitting back watching (ya gotta love it), and while I haven't ever
ordered from you yet, it's certainly likely that I _will_ in the future. You
have remained professional and business-like all through all of this, and while
I gotta admit, I've seen some of your advertised products for less, you seem
willing to go the extra mile for your customers.  What surprises me, is that
there has been at least one message complaining about you giving the 10%
discounts to some of your customers/supporters.  Sure, the recipients of the
discount lose some objectivity.  SO WHAT!  They _should_ lose their objectivity
when they've been treated right.  They'll lose objectivity when you provide
good service too.  Maybe you shouldn't do that either.  <g> If someone dines at
a restaurant and compliments the owner about the meal, and the owner gives
him/her a coupon for a free meal, the owner will benefit from some real cheap
advertising.  The customer will lose _all_ objectivity, but will also have
gotten a free meal!  Sounds like the American way to me!  :-) BTW, for those
that will accuse me of writing this as a "cheap shot" for a discount, that's
not the case. However, you _can_ send me a catalog to:

P.O. Box 822
Horsham, PA 19044

Thanks.  Oh,...and apologies to the moderator.  I suppose this really doesn't
belong here, but I couldn't resist.


 * OLX 2.1 * I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is having.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1789
  To: RAY LEUNG                                Date: 07/10/93 11:17a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ray,

Here are the answers to your questions:

RL>1)  Do you take orders from Canada?  YES
RL>2)  Do you take Visa or Mastercard from Canada?  YES
RL>3)  Do you ship to a PO Box, I've got a PO Box and my Visa and Mastercard
RL>bills go there too.  YES
RL>4)  How do you ship to Canada (USPS)?  AIR MAIL (normal)  FEDEX or AMEX
       on request
RL>5)  What are your shipping rates to Canada?  AIRMAIL is $6 up to 4 CD's,
       and 75-cents for each CD over 4.
RL>6)  Does your toll free line work from Canada?  NO
RL>7)  Do you carry a OS/2 specific CD?  The only one right now is Hobbes
       OS/2 at $16

RL>Thanx for any info you can provide.

Give us a call anytime.

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1790
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/10/93 11:17a
Subj: CD SALE!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ> MS> Bibles & Religion...$10
BJ>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
BJ>     -- I'll take one.
BJ>BTW: Did you ever get any Oink-II in stock?

Got ya down Bob.  I didn't forget about your Dictionaries & Languages
either, so don't worry.  I've got about 450 CD's coming from Chestnut,
of which only 120 have arrived so far, but should have the rest in
by Monday 7/12 or Tuesday, so your stuff will ship then.

I'm down to the bottom of the barrel on Porkie 2's and would like to
hang onto these few for sales, but as soon as I get 20 more, I'll send
one out to you.

Later,
.\\ike
---
 ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ I think my data transmission is low on fluid.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1791
  To: DONNA MC LAUGHLIN                        Date: 07/10/93 11:17a
Subj: Catalog for your products               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DML>Mike:

DML>    After all the good things I've been reading about you from others in
DML>this echo, I'm interested!!!  (Can I join the 10% Off Club too? ;>) [D )
DML>    Do you have a catalog available listing titles, prices, etc.?  I could
DML>probably show it to about a dozen people in my area and hopefully gather a
DML>decent size order together at one shot.

Donna,

Thanks for the inquiry.  Unfortunately, my stingy sysop does not give me
netmail access, so I'll have to reply here for now.  Be glad to send you
our latest CD catalog . . . all I need is an address.  You can either
leave it here (you'll probably get about 10 catalogs <g>) or phone me at
509-457-2892 and I'll get one right out to you.

Take care,
.\\ike

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From: JEREMIAH CASEY                         Number: 1792
  To: BEN WARREN                               Date: 07/09/93  6:18p
Subj: Cd-Rom For Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BW>well,jeremiah,i might take a little less,but this is an
BW>external unit with it's own power supply and you don't have
BW>to fool with making sure you have an extra floppy drive cable
BW>to plug into it or a place to mount it in the chassis.i'd
BW>consider$
BW>$150.00

mmmm I would take it if it included all the accesories needed :)...Like da
controller card,mmmm :) any software dat came wit it....Also what kinda stats
it be??  Like what speed and junk....


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From: MICHAEL KANKO                          Number: 1793
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/10/93  8:44p
Subj: N OWL                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi, does anyone here know about how much the new Night Owl 9 is?

Thanks

Mike

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From: CORNELL EYDE                           Number: 1794
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/10/93  1:07p
Subj: MITSUMI CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Any Dealers here have a good price on a NEW mitsumi CD rom drive?

I would prefer 16bit card with 350MS access time, but would consider the
older one for the right price.

Leave message here or net mail to 1:267/144

Thx




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From: KAMAL HAFFAR                           Number: 1795
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/10/93 11:12a
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > i seen that mike shannon is selling nightowl 9 for
 > $37.00
 > tell me is that extorsion or price fixing?

 > I just bought NIGHTOWL 9 for    $25.  from
 > groupware...
 > the number is  (206)-472-1400 call and see for
 > yourself!

 > mitsumi internals for $175. complete..........

 > he claims the lowest prices available.....MIKE you had
 > better  drop
 > that $37. price tag to $24.95 if you want to be the
 > lowest price guy.

Enough is enough, put this matter to rest and stop wasting our money on
childish postings.  If you think your going to drive Star Vector customers to
purchase from somewhere else because of your postings you're totally mistaken.
I value a good customer service as oppose to saving few dolars.  In fact
despite your postings I have ordered from Mike over $100.00 and I will continue
to order from him.

So sir, you made your point and so did Mike, no point in carrying on with this
bs.

Kamal

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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 1796
  To: JIM HUSBAND                              Date: 07/08/93  2:36p
Subj: For trade - magazine rack               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 07-05-93  19:47 Jim Husband shared these words of wisdom:

 JH> I have a few possible pending offers. If there is no definite
 JH> answer soon, maybe we can deal ($10 if we can). I'll let you know.

OK, let me know. $10 is ok by me.


... I'm not short, I'm vertically challenged
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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 1797
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/09/93  5:47p
Subj: waiting for the boss...                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 06-20-93  01:19 Mike Shannon shared these words of wisdom:

 MS> I think I already did in our phone conversation. <g>  Enjoyed talking
 MS> to you.  Let me know what the "boss" thinks.

Latest word is that we'll get $$ for the drive and some disks soon. The
powers that be decided that since the drive is a capital expenditure, it
couldn't be bought with leftover funds from last fiscal year, but should
be requested this fy. At any rate, the thing should happen soon. I did
receive your catalog, btw, and it looks like Front Page News will also
be useful.  I've also got the CDROM bug myself, and am considering
adding a drive to my pc, and will probably be ordering a few disks for
myself soon. I appreciate all your help on the phone, and will be in
touch soon with my order(s).



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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 1798
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/10/93  9:18p
Subj: sellin' some roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 06-21-93  17:25 Eric Bravick shared these words of wisdom:

 EB> Another "cleaning out some of the stuff from my apartment so that I
 EB> can walk around without stepping on it" sale.

 EB> CDRoms for sale:

 I'm interested in the following (if you still have them, I tend to run
 behind in reading my mail packets):

 EB> CICA Windows (Dec)           $10.00
 EB> US History                   $15.00
 EB> Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00
 EB> Time Tables of History S+I   $15.00
 EB> Family Doctor                $25.00
 EB> Greatest Books 150           $20.00
     (Would appreciate fuller description)

 EB> NASA Voyager Image data      $10.00 /ea.
 EB> sell set for $85)
 EB> Garbo CD (MSDos/Mac)         $15.00

Please call [phone], echo, or netmail with more particulars. My
husband is interested in the NASA data, but notes that it is available
from the publisher at $20 for the first disk and $6 for each additional
disk, so it comes out to the same price as yours.



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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 1799
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/09/93 12:40p
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BT> i seen that mike shannon is selling nightowl 9 for $37.00
BT> tell me is that extorsion or price fixing?
BT> I just bought NIGHTOWL 9 for    $25.  from groupware...

Then you must've gotten some kind of special deal, as Ismail advertises it at
$29, not $25. Hmm.....?

 BT> that $37. price tag to $24.95 if you want to be the lowest price guy.

Have you called him to verify if he would or not? if not, desist. You're also
Continually bringing this up & slamming other dealers prices, how do you expect
this thread to end if you keep this up? So you got a "raw deal" in your eyes,
deal elsewhere and stop moaning. Sheesh... (Sorry Tim) :)

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 1800
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93 10:11a
Subj: Toshiba CDROM Drives                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Features: Warranty, DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin
  SCSI, 350ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer.  Still have several remaining.

205-837-5053




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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 1801
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/06/93 12:36a
Subj: REVIEW OF "DIGITAL DREAMS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>   As previously eluded to, there is a built-in GIF viewer.  It's a
>   shareware package called "GIFReed".  The DD authors make a splash
>   about this program in their documentation, but I wasn't impressed by it.

Funny thing - I know the author, Davie Reed (he's the "head sysop" of the
Indiana Computer Society BBS, among other things). He's tried to get me to try
his program, but it is NOT in fact "shareware", but rather is CRIPPLEWARE.

>   It's worth noting
>   that DD's authors suggest copying GIFReed and the right catalogs
>   (more on this later) to your HDD to boost performance.

This would likely be true for ANY .GIF display method - VPIC runs MUCh faster
from HD than driect from CD-ROM too....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 1802
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/06/93 12:37a
Subj: REVIEW OF "DIGITAL DREAMS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>   The included copy of GIFReed is too crippled IMHO, to permit any
>   real "try before buy" evaluation, not to mention the highly
>   annoying beeps, messages, warnings, etc. that go along with the
>   crippled functionality.

Mind if I forward this to the author? I've been TRYING to point that out to him
for almost a YEAR now....


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From: PAUL HUNDRIESER                        Number: 1803
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/10/93 10:39a
Subj: Amiga 500                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Amiga 500 for sale
1meg memory
1084 monitor
Commoedore 520 TV adaptor
2400 modem
mouse, joystick, tons of software

Make Offer

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1804
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/02/93 11:29a
Subj: OUR TRADE                               Refer: NONE
Read: 07/12/93  7:12a                       Private: No

 -> address.  Take care of this immediately.
 TH> Why not call Terry?  A telephone is a wonderful gizmo and allows
 TH> you to talk to someone *immediately*, instead of waiting 3-4 days
 TH> as this echo requires.  Terry's number is 305-581-5060.

If you are offering this as a public service, thank you.  If the tone of your
message is actually as sarcastic as it sounds, it is rather unappreciated.
Terry did not offer his phone number, so I would not accept it from another
source.  Terry did offer to ship a CD-ROM to me via priority USPS on the Sat.
before I posted the message you are responding to.  He did not.  He claims to
have had extenuating circumstances, but failed to notify me of that fact.  When
I posted the message to me, his response was to FED-EX overnight my disc back.
That in itself appeared rather suspicious to me.  If he were GENUINELY
concerned that he was unable to uphold his end of the deal, my CD should have
been in the FED-EX package.  Instead, he got his jollies, and tried to shift
blame to me for the deal not being completed.  If you only moderate in favor of
your friends, you should let us all know before hand.  I have never had a
moderator post a similar message to me. I have one more message from Terry to
reply to, and after that, it is end of thread.  He claims to have me in his
twit filter, which is fine. I want the message out to the public instead.

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1805
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/02/93 11:46a
Subj: OUR TRADE                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TW> Listen, Bozo, what I said was exactly true. There are several

Now you resort to name calling.  Why?  Are you hiding something maybe?
 TW> acceptable to me. I have no difficulty keeping my word, even if
 TW> the product isn't what I expected. Ask around the echo.  But I

Now we ALL get the big picture.  You did not like the disc I sent you, so you
decided not to complete the deal.  From what you are saying, you agreed to
cross ship discs with me, but instead, waited until you received mine to
evaluate it.  After deciding you did'nt like it, you waited for me to get angry
enough to post a message asking about the transaction, thereby giving you
enough reason to throw a tantrum and send my disc back, making it look as if
*I* were the reason the trade fell thru, instead of you.  Read your above
statement.  You said it.
 TW> won't put up with some adolescent moron with an attitude. You need

Againg, name calling.
 TW> a sense of perspective. We're talking about you didn't get an
 TW> adult cdrom on time. No one died. No one lost their job. You just

That is irrelevant.  You agreed to trade discs.  You did'nt.  I was withing my
right to be disappointed and angry.  I shipped off a $25 disc on blind faith,
and you did not.  Your fault, not mine.

 TW> didn't get your jollies a week earlier. I suppose your mother
 TW> never told you that you can attract more flies with honey than
 TW> vinegar.

 My mother told me plenty of things.  The first was to be truthful.  I was, you
were not.  When I sent you a disc, after you agreed to send one in trade but
did not, there is NO reason that I should be expected to then turn around and
offer you "honey" [read "kiss your ass"] to get you to ship my disc.  I, as
anyone else on these networks know, there are people that rip off honest folk.
You ripped me off.  I shipped a disc, on my dime, you did'nt like it, pulled
your stunt, then shipped it back to me on your bosses FED-EX account.  You are
out NOTHING, except your good name.
 TW> Next time, try to be a bit civil. You do know how, don't
 TW> you?

Re-read my post.  I was civil.  I stated my dissatisfaction, emphatically as
anyone that had been stolen from should expect to do.  I did not resort to
childish name calling, as you have insisted upon doing.  I view that as a sign
of guilt.  What were your reasons for the name calling?
 TW> As for my mother's stroke, it's not funny; it's not cute; and
 TW> it's none of your business. Don't bother to reply.

If you think I was being funny, offering best wishes to someone in the
hospital, you ARE one disturbed individual.  I have an uncle on his death bed
in the hospital now.  I don't consider it a laughing matter. I offered it
genuinely.  I never accused you of lying about your mother, just about the
scenario involving the disc.
 TW> You've managed to earn the first spot in my twit filter.

If that is your wish, fine.  Rip me off, blast me publicly twice, then put me
in a twit filter so you don't have to hear the truth.  Fine.
 TW> some yo-yo after a terribly tense week of taking care of my mother

Again, names.  sheesh.
 TW> and helping a quadriplegic to set up his computer.

So which is it, helping your sick mother, or an unknown quadriplegic. Now that
things are looking bad for you, you come up with more.

End of thread, after I post my warning.

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1806
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/02/93 11:53a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

This is a public warning to anyone planning on trading/buying discs from Terry
Woodward.  I shipped a disc to Terry, on the condition he would cross ship a
disc in return, by priority mail.  He failed to do so. After receiving a
message from me, inquiring as to why he failed to complete the trade, he posted
a tirade about how his life was all tied up, and basically what a low-life I
was for asking.  He then in turn, shipped my disc back by overnight FED-EX on
his bosses corporate acccount.  In his next post, he stated that the disc was
not what he expected.  What appears to have happened, is Terry got my disc, did
not like it, and waited for me to complain so he could attempt to shift blame
for the failing trade to me, and try to get a better disc in trade for his.  I
am only posting my opinion as to what transpired, and ask that you consider it
and make your own judgement when thinking of dealing with this individual.  I
will not reply to messages in response to this posting.  End of thread.

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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 1807
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/07/93 12:30p
Subj: Re: STARVECTOR                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Michael Kelly <=-

 MK>    never satisfied.  Are you this customer?  I have not had any dealings
 MK>    with STARVECTOR before and am not associated with them in any way.
 MK>    However, I am almost tempted to order something from them just due to
 MK>    your relentless and seemingly unfounded complaining about them.

 MS> Michael,

 MS> Well it's about time you started ordering from us!  10% off anything
 MS> in the house on your next order - sez me!

 MS> Thanx for the support,

    I would be honored.  However, I do not have a catalog of your products.
    How may I obtain one?


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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 1808
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/10/93  6:50a
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Bubba Therrien to Mark Johnsen <=-

 BT> yes i do know where mark. its GROUPWARE and NIGHTOWL 9 not 8 is 25
     ^   ^
    Capitalize these.
 BT> bux. i think that might even be about 22% wouldn't you say?
     ^^^  ^
    Please, "dollars" or "bucks" if you will.
 BT> heres his number if you doubt me, i have a recipt to prove it!
         ^                                      ^^^^^^
    "Here is" would be appropriate.     Is this related to a receipt?

    Your posts are truly eye sores in this echo.


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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 1809
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/10/93  7:00a
Subj: Re: $$$                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Bubba Therrien to Tim Klan <=-

 BT> I did ask the Ups man to come back. he was in a hurry, and    the
                   ^^^^^^^               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Small wonder.  Most UPS customers do not tell the delivery man to
    "take their time" delivering the package.  It would seem that he
    did not want to hear your whining either.

 BT> fact that my check was not acceptable offended me personally.

 And if you ran a business you might also be somewhat hesitant to accept
 checks as well.  It only takes a few dishonest individuals to take the
 profit right out of STARVECTOR's business.  STARVECTOR is in business
 to make money.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with that either.

 BT> i wish to drop this subject ..........

 Consider it dropped.


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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 1810
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/10/93  7:09a
Subj: Re: $$$                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Bubba Therrien to Mike Shannon <=-

 BT> MIKE! glad to see  you write to me istead of everyone else. I thought
 BT> this matter was laid to rest! I would have "PAID" for it if you had
 BT> excepted my check, NO I dont expect special or indifferent treatment

 By the way, C.O.D. is generally understood in the business world to mean
 Cash On Delivery.  Not Check On Delivery (although some will accept this).

 BT> from anyone due to my abiltities or not....however my income is so
 BT> that i have to keep it in a checking account, I can not drive. So what
 BT> are my alternatives??  drop the subject. I have found another

 A credit card might be a possible solution.

 BT> distributor that accepts my GOOD check. and I have not had any problem

 There are thousands of inmates serving time for writing what they called
 "GOOD" checks.  I am in no way implying that you are this type of check
 writer.  However, STARVECTOR (or any other company) does not know you like
 you or your friends do.  They cannot take the chance either.  Please
 put yourself in their situation and you will better understand.

 BT> with His company at all. As matter of fact NIGHTowl 9 is only $25.00

 And it would appear that you had no problem with STARVECTOR either.


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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 1811
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/10/93  7:29a
Subj: Re: nightowl 9                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Bubba Therrien to All <=-

 BT> i seen that mike shannon is selling nightowl 9 for $37.00
 BT> tell me is that extorsion or price fixing?

    Actually it is called making profit.  And Mike Shannon has no reason
    to be ashamed of it.  The profit he makes from his sales will generally
    be used to perhaps buy products that my company makes, thereby making
    profit for my company.  My company may then turn around and have a good
    year and give us all better raises.  I may use a portion of my increased
    income to purchase more CD's next year.

    Extortion implies that you have "no choice" but to buy from someone.  So
    we can see that extortion does not apply here.  Price fixing implies that
    Mike is in agreement with other vendors to artificially keep the price
    high.  That does not appear to be the case here either since GroupWare
    sold it to you for less.

 BT> I just bought NIGHTOWL 9 for    $25.  from groupware...

    Of course, the market place sets the prices.  Mike will either have to
    meet or beat the competitions prices or his sales will suffer.  But he
    already knows this, no doubt.  But you get what you pay for as well.
    The lowest price does not always equate to the best "value" as simple
    minds might think.  Many mail order firms offer low prices, but if the
    product breaks or does not meet your needs, you are out of luck.  No
    support, no returns/refunds, etc.

 BT> he claims the lowest prices available.....MIKE you had better  drop
 BT> that $37. price tag to $24.95 if you want to be the lowest price guy.

    If his business is not off, he should keep it at $37.  If sales begin
    to drop, then he should come down appropriately.  I get so tired of
    seeing customers get upset because they find out that their supplier
    is making a profit on the sale!  How long do you think they would be
    around if they were not?

    Finally, if you do not want to do business with him, that is your choice.
    But your continual complaints and negative messages concerning him and
    his small business are tiresome.  Please refrain from further attacks.


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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 1812
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 07/10/93  7:35a
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mark Johnsen to Bubba Therrien <=-

 MJ> Okay Bubba, that's twice today that you've said that, time to put up or
 MJ> shut up!  Here's a few RANDOMLY selected titles and prices Mike has

 MJ> Until then, I'll stick with the *ESTABLISHED*, *REPUTABLE* vendors on the
 MJ> board such as Mike Shannon (StarVector) and Boris O'.

Glad to see that I am not the only one who takes offense with his posts. <g>


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1813
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 07/11/93 10:21a
Subj: REVIEW OF "DIGITAL DREAMS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Nope. Send it to anyone you choose. Heck, I figured I posted it on an
international echo just so as many folks could read it as possible.
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1814
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/12/93  7:16a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: 5251
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> This is a public warning to anyone planning on trading/buying discs f
-> Woodward.  I shipped a disc to Terry, on the condition he would cross

And this is a public warning for you to stop whining.  EOT.

tim
moderator
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From: GREG SPEED                             Number: 1815
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/12/93 10:07p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE$                         Refer: 5055
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Do you still have nix pix 1? I've been looking for if for a while m
myself. thanks Greg Speed
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From: SHANE TUCKER                           Number: 1816
  To: CLIF DANIEL                              Date: 07/11/93 11:59a
Subj: Microsoft Office 3.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

my name is shane tucker and i am interested in buying some of those cd's that
is if they are for sale?

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1817
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 07/08/93  8:12a
Subj: 7th guest trade                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >>  >>Sears carries it for $59 at all it's stores......

  >>You shouldn't spout information you don't know. Our Sears in Casper,
  >>Wyoming wants $79, as I'm sure most do. Sears almost _always_
  >>charges MSRP, or real close to it. They must have made a mistake at
  >>yours, because they would never sell it that cheap.

  >>I saw it (7th Guest) yesterday at Sam's Club for $45.

  >That's irrelevant. We were talking about Sears. Sears being the key
  >word. Not one mention of wanting to know where it was cheapest.

Excuse me.  I thought a good deal was more relevant in this echo than
bitching about Sears.  Regards.

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1818
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/08/93  8:17a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>JL>Mike Shannon of StarVector is a fine businessman.  He offers prices that
  >JL>are very hard for me to beat most of the time.  I have even ordered some
  >JL>discs from him when a customer needed something that my suppliers didn't
  >JL>carry. He was polite and delivery was prompt.

MS>This kind of praise is almost hard to believe from a fellow dealer!  You
  >sir are a gentleman and a scholar.  <stroke, stroke>  8)

Hey, the truth is the truth.  I knew that guy was going to be trouble as
soon as he started bringing up his disability.  I am SURE you could have
seen his disability right through the mail carrier! ;)  I have a
disability myself due to a back injury.  That is why I am trying to
shift my income to something I can do without any pain, but I don't
expect the world to rotate around me because of it.

MS>Anyway, thanks so much for the kind words, and let me know if there's
  >anything else you need.  Take 10% off your next order, too.

Great!  I appreciate it.  I'll have to look for something I don't carry.
Thanks again.

                                                        Jim...

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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 1819
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/05/93  5:49p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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 517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM - 6:00PM Monday - Saturday)
 517-865-6066 (Customer Support BBS)
 1:239/900.0 (Fidonet)

COMING SOON!  o Compact Disk AUDIO Production!
              o We will be accepting data on 4mm DAT

Revision Date: 07-05-93

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From: DENNIS STERNER                         Number: 1820
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  3:41p
Subj: POWERPAK GOLD                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


POWERPAK GOLD CD-ROM Disc - Fall 1992 - version 3.0 revised -
        includes 7000+ files - best of 1992 shareware -
        features APOGEE GAME Collection - sysop ready -
        from Florida's Lion's Den, Inc. -
        new in shrinkwrap

2 copies available - $20 each


Leave message here or call 717-637-2972.


Dennis

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From: MAHMUT KURSUN                          Number: 1821
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 07/10/93 12:00a
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I everyone,  Does anyone have a CD full of *.MOD's, *.WAV's, *.VOC's
 > ect?

call Knowledge Media, they have the Resource Library Audio CDROM
400 MB, uncompressed MOD/WAV/VOC and other Music Stuff. 25$

800-78-CDROM, 916-872-3826
Knowledge Media
436 Nunneley Rd. #B
Paradise, CA 95969

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From: DAVID MARLOW                           Number: 1822
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93 12:56a
Subj: CD-ROM WABTED                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DO YOU OR ANYONE YOU KNOW WANT TO UNLOAD A SEGA
GENESIS CD-ROM ON ANYONE???


IF SO PLEASE LEAVE MAIL!!

MR. CAVALIER



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From: PEYTON NORMAN                          Number: 1823
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  9:23p
Subj: Cd Rom discs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I carry over 400 titles in stock, 40 XXX titles and 10 Full XXX movies
new titles come in every day.
If you are looking for CD~s just call

DDDDDDDDDDDDDD
        ACD~S and More
         D13526 Canal Dr
        Perdido Key, FL 32507
        1-904-492-7483

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From: TROY JOHNSON                           Number: 1824
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  3:44p
Subj: Pioneer 6 disk changer                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have another Pioneer six disk changer for sale, It is brand new used
about a week for testing..I have the box and original sales ticket..

I am asking 800.00 o.b.o.

Don't get crazy on the offer, I don't need to sell it that bad

VOICE 702 459 8862
Troy

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From: DARRELL CHILDS                         Number: 1825
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/10/93  6:36p
Subj: $$Money$$                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Sysop

DR>Are you looking for more ways to increase the profitability of your BBS? Sel
DR> CD-ROMs to your users is an excellent way to increase revenues.  And CD-ROM
DR>ernational can help.  The best part is: you don't have to stock anything!  C
DR>or send NetMail for more information.

DR>Dave Reed
DR>CD-ROM International
DR>[phone] / [phone]  (Voice)
DR>[phone]  (BBS/Fax)
DR>1:344/79  (FidoNet)

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 Hi Dave,
Please send me more information on the CD-ROM. I am looking for a CD-ROM
please let me know or I will call you at the 1-800 number.
                                                 Thank you
                                               Darrell 1:387/440


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 1826
  To: KEVIN OYAMA                              Date: 07/10/93  5:54p
Subj: NixPix1                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 KO> Heard you may have a disk for sale - do you still have it available?!

I have an extra copy.  $80 (includes shipping).

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From: JERRY CORNELIUS                        Number: 1827
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/10/93  5:57p
Subj: Lowest prices                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> if he posts it.  If so, I'll be glad to meet or beat that too, but one
 MS> thing I'll never do is chop the bottom out of a market just for the sake
 MS> of saying, "I have the lowest price!".  It's well known in business that
 MS> having the LOWEST "advertised" price is not always the BEST strategy as
 MS> far as NET profit is concerned!

Back when you were warring with Free Spirit Software in this echo, your
battlecry was that you had the lowest prices and you could not be beat.  You
then undercut them by a nickel.  I'm not sure what "chopping the bottom out of
a market" entails, but it seems to me that either a dealer has the lowest price
on an item, or s/he doesn't.  If s/he doesn't, then it wouldn't be right to
claim that it was so, would it?

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From: JERRY CORNELIUS                        Number: 1828
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/10/93 10:07p
Subj: Eh?                                     Refer: NONE
Read: 07/13/93  9:09a                       Private: No

09 Jul 93 09:12, Tim Helton wrote to Bubba Therrien:

 TH> I've never cut anyone's feed to this echo, but you're pushing me to the
 TH> limit.  Stop whining.  This is your last chance, bubba.  EOT.

I understood that you cut that fellow from Free Spirit Software off.  I think
his name was Mike Mann, I still see him at the computer swaps.  Did I
misunderstand your post when you said that you took care of him?

BTW, what's your voice telephone number?

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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 1829
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 07/10/93  9:26p
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE:                  Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No

BH>DP>What happened to Tim?

BH>He is still around, I wandered off into the wrong echo.
BH>BOB
BH>:-)

Hehe - actually I read your response about an hour after my response got shot
off through the net!  <G>

Later,
Dave Perkovich
Damar Enterprises Software
The CD PowerBox Guys!


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1830
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/11/93  6:25p
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> Ismail's advertised price is $29, which I have
 MS> gladly matched for those
 MS> who have quoted it, but as for the $25 figure, let's just wait and see
 MS> if he posts it.  If so, I'll be glad to meet or beat that too, but one
 MS> thing I'll never do is chop the bottom out of a
 MS> market just for the sake
 MS> of saying, "I have the lowest price!".  It's well
 MS> known in business that
 MS> having the LOWEST "advertised" price is not always
 MS> the BEST strategy as
 MS> far as NET profit is concerned!

And most of his prices on all CDs except Nightowl 9 are higher than most of
us..so save now and pay higher later <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 1831
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  6:29p
Subj: adult cds available                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

             ************************************************
              PCJ ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST - Last update: 7/10
             ************************************************
             Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)  ** BBS Ready
             Orders - 800-547-7817 / Inquiries - 615-339-0235

 101 POSITIONS 1..(Professionally produced educational movies)...69.95
 101 POSITIONS 2..(Professionally produced educational movies)...69.95
 ADULT PALATE..(Stills from films-Hi-Rez-Windows)................32.95
 ADULT REFERENCE LIBRARY..(500 MB-2500 Gifs-Fetishes Galore).....29.95
 AFTER DARK Trilogy..(Movie shorts-video for windows included)...48.95
 AMATEUR MODELS..(500+ centerfold pics-All SVGA or 24 bit **)....38.95
 ANIMATION FANTASIES I..(105 animations/moving pics).............31.95
 ANIMATION FANTASIES II..(105 animations/moving pics)............31.95
 ASIAN LADIES..(660 mb-oriental x-rated pics)....................33.95
 BEST of VIVID Clips..(Movie clips using T.M.M. technology)......69.95
 BUSTY BABES..(Gifs-800+ celebrities-amateur **).................32.95
 CLUB EXPOSE..(Interactive movie clips)..........................46.95
 DIGITAL DANCING..(Interactive strip game).......................48.95
 DIGITAL DREAMS..(All R-SVGA-660+ mb **).........................27.95
 DIRTY TALK..(Movie-38 minutes-4 ladies).........................48.95
 DOORS of PASSION..(Interactive movie-hidden doors)..............46.95
 ECSTASY Hot Pics I..(560 mb-330 anims-470 stories-2600 gifs **).32.95
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS..(710 mb-4300+ gifs/viewers)..................35.95
 FOR ADULTS ONLY 2..(680+ mb-VGA/SVGA gifs-anims-games-text **)..36.95
 FOR ADULTS ONLY 3..(680+ mb-VGA/SVGA gifs-anims-games-text **)..36.95
 GBL..(Gay/Bi/Lez-400+ hard to find alternate lifesytle pics)....36.95
 GIFFY GOLD (All R-Giffy girls-San Diego models **)..............36.95
 GIRLS of VIVID..(500 hand picked slides)........................66.95
 HIDDEN OBSESSIONS..(Fractal compression movie)..................48.95
 HOUSE of DREAMS..(Exotic fantasy movie-DOS fractal/Mac QTime)...48.95
 ISLAND GIRLS..(Vga gifs-swimsuits/nudes-Hawaii).................44.95
 KAMA SUTRA..(Movie clips using T.M.M. technology)...............69.95
 LOCAL GIRLS..(Vga gifs-swimsuits/nudes-Hawaii)..................44.95
 MOVING FANTASIES..(200 adult movie shorts-GL/FLI)...............29.95
 MY FIRST TIME..(80 Minutes-2 discs-movie).......................48.95
 NIGHT WATCH (Interactive full-length movie).....................48.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 2..(530 mb-scans/amusements **).................32.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 3..(630 mb **)..................................32.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 4..(Best of Windy City scans **)................32.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 5..(**).........................................32.95
 PC-PIX 1..(600+ mb gifs **).....................................33.95
 PC-PIX 2..(630+ mb gifs-no dupes with v1 **)....................33.95
 PC-PIX 3..(660+ mb gifs-no dupes with v1 or v2 **)..............33.95
 PHOTO GALLERY..(R-rated-best of Penthouse shoot-Steve Hicks)....38.95
 PHYSICAL THERAPY... ............................................24.95
 PORKWARE 1..(2024 gigs-37 targa files-660 mb)...................36.95
 PORKWARE 2..(3308 gifs-135 movies-648 mb).......................36.95
 PRIVATE COLLECTION I..(675 mb-SVGA gifs **).....................34.95
 PRIVATE COLLECTION II..(650 mb-SVGA gifs-no dupes with v1 **)...34.95
 PRIVATE PICTURES 1..(600 images-70 mini-movies).................36.95
 RIMFIRE PACIFIC..(Best of adult movie clips)....................48.95
 SEEDY Rom #1....................................................34.95
 SEEDY Rom #2....................................................34.95
 SEEDY Rom #3....................................................34.95
 SEEDY Rom #4....................................................34.95
 SEEDY Rom #5....................................................34.95
 SEEDY Rom #6....................................................34.95
 SEEDY ROM 6-Pak..(29,000+ files-no dupes-gifs/anims/text)......128.95
 SEEDY ROM 7th Heaven..(2900+ gifs)..............................31.95
 SEEDY ROM MOVIE Disc..(Best of amateur/profsnl-60+ minutes).....42.95
 SEYMORE BUTTS (Interactive movie disc-100+ minutes-Windows).....48.95
 SMUTWARE..(640+ mb-1000 SVGA gifs-2000 VGA gifs-100 anims **)...29.95
 SO MUCH STAREWARE..(579 mb-2600 gifs-text-200 anims-sound **)...32.95
 SOUTHERN BEAUTIES..(1000+ gifs-all new-SVGA from slides)........39.95
 STORM I..(700+ mb-5268 VGA gifs-87 anims-574 stories **)........28.95
 STORM II..(656+ mb-VGA/SVGA gifs-slide shows **)................28.95
 STORM III..(3000+ stills-half gay **)...........................28.95
 STORM 3-Pak.....................................................78.95
 VISUAL FANTASIES..(600+ mb-2600+ gifs)..........................34.95
 VOLCANO..(400 VGA-900 SVGA R-rated gifs)........................35.95
 Wicked-X..(Movie-uses Photo CD technology)......................59.95
 X-Treme..(Best of overseas scans/automations)...................29.95
 XXX Extreme..(Gifs-Anims).......................................34.95

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 1832
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  4:39p
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Could someone tell me something about the difference between the older and
newer (3.0) Busty Babes?  Also, looking for a CD with lots of celebraty gif's
on it.

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From: PATRICK SHEN                           Number: 1833
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/10/93  4:42p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have following CD-ROMs for sale.  All CD-ROMs are in New Condition. Add $3
for UPS or Priority Mail shipping.

7th Guest by Virgin Games (2 CD set).  Smooth full motion video.  Best CD
ever made.                                    --------------  $50.00

ChessMaster 3000  MPC.  The best chess program in the world.  Moves spoken
in five different notations.  Photo realistic boards and pieces in 256 color
3D.  Excellent for beginner or master.  With all original manuals and
Registration card.                    -------------  $27.00

Wing Commander/Ultima VI.  Get 2 award winning games on one excellent CD
Space simulation and Adventure.  With all manuals and Registration card.
                                             ------------------  $33.00

Mixed-up Mother Goose MPC.  Sierra combines master storytelling with the
classic rhymes to create this children's adventure game.  Children learn
early reading skills and get introduced to the world of computers.
                                          ---------------------  $24.00

Shareware Overload.  Collection of 6100+ Sharewares.  550 MB of Games,
Windows, Business, Sound/Music and much more.      ------------  $20.00

Deathstar Arcade Battles.  The most exciting arcade action and other games
of all time.                           ------------------  $18.00

SelectWare System.  The Ultimate Software Demo System.   ------  $10.00

If you are interested, please reply here to contact me at E-mail address
below.

Patrick Shen America Online: Pat Shen CompuServe: 72072,3612 InterNet:
Pat Shen#aol.com or [e-mail]

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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 1834
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  9:26a
Subj: Encyclopedia CD's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   I am looking for an Encyclopedia CD collection that my children can utilize
as a good reference source for school.  I have heard that there exists a few
versions on the market today.  Can anyone provide me info on what's available
on the market.  The pros and cons to utilizing a CD version compared to that of
hard copy etc.  Also where does one look for the best competitive prices wrt to
CD ROM?
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 1835
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  9:28a
Subj: CD Referenece Material ?                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Does anyone know where to find a good catalog that lists what CDs are
available wrt to Reference Material  i.e. CRC HandBook , Handbook of
Mathematical,Scientific and Engineering formulas and tables.
  I would like to move to a Soft Technical reference library and get ride of
all these books that clutter my office...m2
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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 1836
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/11/93 12:26a
Subj: trade?                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm interested.  I'll call you to make arrangements after answering your
questions and after I pose a couple more.


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1837
  To: JERRY CORNELIUS                          Date: 07/13/93  9:16a
Subj: Eh?                                     Refer: 5273
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->  TH> I've never cut anyone's feed to this echo, but you're pushing me
->  TH> limit.  Stop whining.  This is your last chance, bubba.  EOT.
->
-> I understood that you cut that fellow from Free Spirit Software off.
-> his name was Mike Mann, I still see him at the computer swaps.  Did I
-> misunderstand your post when you said that you took care of him?

I didn't cut Mike's feed.  I called his boss (Joe Hubbard) and *he* took
care of the situation.  As to what action Joe took, I don't know.

-> BTW, what's your voice telephone number?

Tim Helton
Data Express, Inc.
6799 Windfaire Dr.
Norcross, GA 30093

Voice: 404-621-9210
FAX  : [phone]
BBS  : 404-491-1405
FIDO : 1:133/515
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1838
  To: VINCENT TESTA                            Date: 07/11/93 12:54a
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

VT> MS> ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS!   NOW IN STOCK - THE LATEST AND GREATEST
VT> MS> NIGHT OWL OF ALL . . . . . . . . .
VT> MS>                                     . . . N  I  G  H  T      O  W  L
VT> MS>          +-+--+---+                           |   |        +=======+
VT> MS> PRICE:   | $37.00 |                       ====|===|====    ||     ||

VT> >>> WE WILL NOT BE UNDERSOLD ON THIS TITLE!  FIND IT FOR LESS?  IF IT'S
VT> >>> A LEGITIMATE AD, WE'LL BEAT THE PRICE
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

VT>Not to be rude or cheap..but the night owl 9's can be bought for $29 ;-)

No problem.  I know they can be had for $29, which is why I guarantee I
won't be undersold on this title.  As I said, if you find a legit ad for
less, just let me know and I'll go lower, or at least match the price.

Take care,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1839
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/11/93 12:54a
Subj: Starvector                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CB>Now you have paid him for his endorsement.

Not until he purchases something.  THEN I have paid him, and would
gladly do it again.  With as much beating as I've taken in this
conference over the months, I'm all too happy to reward someone when
they say something nice about me, believe me!  8)

CB>And, as a side effect, destroyed any pretense this echo had toward
CB>objective comments.

Since when has there been a pretense that ALL comments in this conference
are objective anyway?

Later,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1840
  To: BRIAN POLAK                              Date: 07/11/93 12:54a
Subj: Adult cd prices                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BP>        Can you tell me more about Moving Fantasies and about the two
version
BP>of Digital Dreams available, what is the difference?  What is on them; gifs,
BP>text, animation?  Also, I am looking for a CD containing a lot of different
BP>versions of the Bible, the Toarh, and the Koran for a research project.  It
BP>should contain the King James version, and an original version in Greek
(woul

Brian,

Moving Fantasies has 198 movie clips in FLI and GL format.  Some have
Soundblaster support too.  The only Digital Dreams I carry is the Ero Tek
version, which is all .GIF files, and is more of an "R" rated disc.  For a
good Bible CD, try Toolworks Bible Library, which has 9 Bibles and 20
reference books.  Excellent disc.  Pricing:  Moving Fantasies $29, Digital
Dreams $29, Bible Library $31.

Call anytime if I can be of further help.

Thanks,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1841
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/11/93 12:54a
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MW>Howdy, just got a CD-ROM and I like to know more about Night Owl ?
MW>I run a BBS and I am looking for CD's to put online.

Night Owl 9 is a 670mb CD with all 1993 file dates, and files grouped
into 60 file areas.  Very little to no duplication to previous Night
Owl releases, and perfect for online use with built-in file listings.
For BBS use, I'd rate Night Owl 9, Pier2, and Software Vault 2 as the
best I've seen.  Pricing:  Night Owl 9 $37, Pier2 $37, and Software
Vault 2 $24.

Give me a call if you need any further info.

Talk to ya later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1842
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93 12:54a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 July 1993                ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 7/01
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 Animation Fantasies 1.........29.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Animation Fantasies 2.........29.00    Porkware 2 (New!).............37.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Busty Babes...................33.00    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........29.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Exotic Girls (Closeout).......25.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........59.00
 Giffy Gold ("R"-rated)........39.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................34.50    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................34.50    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................34.50    Storm 2.......................30.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............34.50    Storm 3.......................31.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......28.00    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Swimwear & More (New!)........29.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....59.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).59.00    Tropical Girls (Closeout).....25.00
 PC-PIX 1......................30.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 PC-PIX 2......................30.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 PC-PIX 3......................30.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1843
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93 12:54a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 IN STOCK!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS!   NOW IN STOCK - THE LATEST AND GREATEST
NIGHT OWL OF ALL . . . . . . . . .
                                    . . . N  I  G  H  T      O  W  L
         +--------+                           |   |        +=======+
PRICE:   | $37.00 |                       ====|===|====    ||     ||
         +--------+                           |   |        ||     ||
                                          ====|===|====    +=======|
      --[ NOW SHIPPING! ]--                   |   |               ||
                                                                  ||
                                                                  ||
Get Night Owl 8 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $25 additional!

CALL TO ORDER YOUR COPY TODAY! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-800-767-1284

>> WE WILL NOT BE UNDERSOLD ON THIS TITLE!  FIND IT FOR LESS?  IF IT'S A
>> LEGITIMATE AD, WE'LL BEAT THE PRICE - GUARANTEED!

***************************************************************************
Plus, all Starvector customers between now and July 17th will automatically
be entered in our drawing for a FREE PIER 2 shareware CD!  Drawing will be
held on Monday, July 19th, with the WINNER ANNOUNCED ON RIME AND FIDONET!
***************************************************************************

                    ----- NO PURCHASE NECESSARY -----

+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| To enter Starvector's PIER 2 GIVEAWAY, simply fill out a postcard with  |
| your name, address, and phone number, and mail it to:  Starvector       |
| Software * PO BOX 8160 * Yakima WA 98908.  All entries must be received |
| by Saturday July 17th to qualify.  Entry into this giveaway will be     |
| automatic for all Starvector customers placing orders between June 22,  |
| and July 17th.  One entry per person please.  Drawing held July 19th.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 BBS: 509-457-0206 COMING SOON!!  ONLINE ORDERING & CD-ROM FILE LISTINGS!!!
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

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From: KEVIN LAM                              Number: 1844
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/08/93  7:08a
Subj: CD-ROM writers                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello, for all who are willing to provide the information, I have a question.

I would like to know some stats and other such information, including the
capacity, speeds and prices of a CD-ROM writer.  Just for the info.

Thanks...



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From: KEVIN LAM                              Number: 1845
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/08/93  7:08a
Subj: Cd Sale!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 07-06-93 Mike Shannon wrote to All...

 MS>  Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0
 MS> add'l)
 MS>

What if I'm not a sysop, and want 3-day shipping?  How much will it cost?

(To Canada, remember)
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From: KEVIN LAM                              Number: 1846
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/11/93  7:11a
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 07-08-93 Mike Shannon wrote to Bubba Therrien...

 MS>
 MS> BT>I just bought NIGHTOWL 9 for    $25.  from groupware...
 MS>
 MS> Ismail's advertised price is $29, which I have gladly matched for
 MS> those

I think your prices are excellent.  I haven't ordered yet, but plan to as
soon as my income (er, my allowance from Dad :) is settled.  I have been
looking at Carmen SanDiego DLX and in Canada, my lowest quote is $99.99.
You've got it for $28.50 US.  WOW!

You don't have to take this guy's "I bought this for less".  All anybody has
to do is say "I bought this there for $xx" and he'd upset everybody.

P.S.  How much is 3-day air shipping to Canada (Ottawa-area) and how long
does regular shipping take?

Hope to order soon.


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From: KEVIN LAM                              Number: 1847
  To: MICHAEL KANKO                            Date: 07/11/93  7:11a
Subj: N Owl                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 07-10-93 MICHAEL KANKO wrote to ALL...

 MK> Hi, does anyone here know about how much the new Night Owl 9 is?
 MK>

From STARVECTOR, I think it's $37

Not necessarily the best price but I've heard highly and think that's your
best value.  Starvector is getting a good reputation around here, fast
shipping, low prices, great service...

I intend to order from them myself..


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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 1848
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93 10:17a
Subj: MESSAGES                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day all!
    This is just a reminder that I will be unable to answer your
inquiries over the next week, since I'm at Comdex (and the laptop
doesn't have a modem!) If you've sent me a message before reading this
one, and didn't receive a reply before reading this one, you'll
definitely be hearing from me after the 19th. (I'm not ignoring you, I'm
just not here!) ...My apologies to everyone who has written.

   Vince
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From: TONY MASSEY                            Number: 1849
  To: ERICK GROWCOCK                           Date: 07/11/93  3:02p
Subj: Sony CD-Rom for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EG>    Lets see, Cd-Rom titles included:

EG>    MicroSoft BookShelf (1991)
EG>    Languages of the World
EG>    Mixed-Up mother goose
EG>    U.S. Atlas
EG>    National Geographic Mammals

Wanna trade any for Sherlock Holmes and Creative Sounds???

Tony
[phone] Voice
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From: TONY MASSEY                            Number: 1850
  To: BOB KELLY                                Date: 07/11/93  3:04p
Subj: Here We Are                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BK>In a message originally to All, Sultan Qamar stated:

BK>SQ>    Cheers BBS in beautiful Cambridge, Ontario, Canada is
BK>SQ>    proud to be carrying this echo !!

BK>And I'm so proud you told us about it...

And I'm so proud that you're so proud that Cheers told us about it!!!
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 1851
  To: BRIAN POLAK                              Date: 07/10/93  2:22p
Subj: Which is best?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BP> Hi Joe,
BP>        How do you go about cleaning your drive?  I have a cleaning CD
BP> that I use in my audio CD player, but it does not work in my mitsumi.
BP> Any help is greatly appreciated.

BP>                                    Talk Later
BP>                                         Brian
BP>                           Internet:[e-mail]
BP>                           Fidonetmail: 1:100/635


Hi Bryan,
The cleaning cd should work in your mitsumi, are you running a cd-audio player?
Try putting the cd in the drive then accessing the drive with an audio player..
That should do it..
I take a swab dipped in cleaning fluid to mine, be real careful as not to put
very much pressure on the "eye"..
You will probably need to clean the cd also. I don't know the absolute best way
of doing it, but I use windex with a soft lint free cloth. If you use a cloth
that is abrasive you might scratch the cd, and wee all know that the cd drives
hates scratches..

-Joe
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 1852
  To: RICHARD VONZEL                           Date: 07/10/93  2:27p
Subj: Which Is Best?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RV>   Thanks for the info, I have 2 MIt's in a server and 2 in my
RV> workstation...
RV> Richard.

Yeah, headache time <g>.. I had a drive in one of my workstations also,
everytime a caller would access the drive in the workstation the net would
slowwwwwwwwwww down..
Have you ran a "data flow" test from your server cd drive to a workstation? The
reason I ask is I am kinda surprised that the transfer speed is so slow!
I use cdspeed and get apx. 30k with the mit's and 10-20k with the hitachi's,
75k with the hard drives..
Sounds kinda slow, but I have set my server config just about all the way's
possible. Bye the way I run Lantastic 2mbps boards for the network..

-Joe
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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 1853
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/11/93  3:26p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Ships Nex               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to All <=-

 LN> The infamous "Busty Babes" will be back on the market and shipping

Sounds good.  Would you mind giving it a 'rating' like the movie scale
so I could know what to expect, like a R; PG; X; XXX; or what?  Also,
I happened to find an old message from you dated in April that mentioned
Ecstacy, and you said it was XXX.  If you have time would you mind listing
a few of the adult CDs and their ratings (in your opinion)?  I am
sometimes surprised that 'adult' CDs are the bathing suit shots.

Thanks in advance.



... Remember when sex was dirty and the air was clean?
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From: DON DEMAERE                            Number: 1854
  To: MICHAEL CRAM                             Date: 07/11/93  7:45a
Subj: SONY CDU-7205/N                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Recently you wrote:

 MC>     I have a barely used sony CDU 7205/n for sale.  It's an external
 MC> slim liny CD ROM drive using the Sony bus card.  Reads CD-ROM 1 and 2
 MC> disks, audio combined cd-rom, High Sierra, ISO-9660, Red and Yellow book
 MC> audio and audio CD's.

How much do you want for it (US$, including shipping) ?

Don

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From: STEVE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1855
  To: JOHN CUSTER                              Date: 07/12/93  1:01a
Subj: Secret Weapons                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi, John.

You can send a check for SWOTL to:

    Steve Phillips
    14608 Buckton Lane    Matthews, NC  28105

Enjoy..

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From: BOB CENTERBAR                          Number: 1856
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  1:28p
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm in the market for an adult CD for a BBS but want to make real sure
that the images will not land me in court over the copywrite laws.

The current issue of BoardWatch list numerous files by both name, logo and
company that in fact are in court over their images being used on several
currently available CD's.

Is there an adult CD, R Rated, with nude and semi-nude images that I could
use without any worry.  Some told me that the Giffy Girls CD came with a
release, any truth to that one?

Thanks in advance.....Bob


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From: CAM LERCH                              Number: 1857
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/10/93  7:08p
Subj: Old 600ms CD-ROM drives                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anybody have some old 600ms drives? Maybe older?? I am looking for the
cheapest you can give me.. maybe $175.00 Canadian (With controler card!!) or
without but I need them soon.. I would like a pretty cheap one but I am
reasonable.. So if you got those old drives (Internal or external) just drop
me a note please!!!! soon!!! Thanks for your time!

Ca/\/\

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From: CLIF DANIEL                            Number: 1858
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 07/11/93  4:10p
Subj: Microsoft Office 3.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GM=>How much would you sell the LOTUS 1-2-3 MPC disc for?


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Greg,
  I havent really set a value on the disk. I haven't been
actively trying to get rid of it. It is an extra copy to
my office just in case something happens to the other.
It is still sealed. We use 123 MPC regularly and we love its
features.  I would make a deal with you in a swap or whatever
else we need to do. I appologize for talking around your
question. But, I just don't know. It is an unregistered copy.
  Maybe we should talk on the phone. Voice 816 453 9215. Or
I could call you. I would like to have the Office disk just
to have it. I already use Word 4 Win and have the MPC with
Bookshelf CD, however the Office CD would be a good reference
disk for me.  Thanks for the reply.  Call collect if you wish.

      Clif Daniel
      Technical Consultant
      [phone]
      Kansas CIty, Missouri

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From: KEVIN ROBBINS                          Number: 1859
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/11/93  6:56p
Subj: Re: Catalog for your products           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   Hello Mike,
        I would like to recieve one of your catalogs please:

        Kevin Robbins
        14203 Plattsburg Rd
        Kearney, Mo 64060

        Thank you.

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From: BEN WARREN                             Number: 1860
  To: JEREMIAH CASEY                           Date: 07/11/93 10:18p
Subj: Cd-Rom For Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jeremiah,in answer to your questions,the drive is 500 ms average access
time and includes the controller card,cables and cdaudio and cd-rom
device driver w/dos extensions.If you want it call me at 913-236-6930 or
913-236-6316.I'll pay shipping and will ship to you upon receipt of a
money order or your check clearing.I'll ship UPS ground.The drive coms
with full warranty and the manuals.transfer rate is 156kps.thank you.
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From: TONY MACE                              Number: 1861
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  5:24a
Subj: Audio Cable Needed                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

I need a audio cable to go from a Toshiba XM-3201 (int) to my PAS16.  I am
currently using the headphone jack to the line in on the back of the pas and
this in a pain in the but.

Please call 308-487-5378 (collect even), least msg here or netmail at
1:14/[e-mail]

Tony

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 1862
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 07/12/93 10:47a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Jul 09 17:06>, Jim Reed of 1:377/50@fidonet writes:

MS>I have a copy of 7th Guest that I would like to trade for CD's. If you have
MS>anything you no longer need, and would like to have this fantastic CD,
MS>leavea message and maybe we can make a deal!

 JR> Hi Michael;
 JR>         I have an adult CD, Animated Fantasies Vol 2 that I would
 JR> trade
 JR>         for 7TH.  Just drop me a line if your interested.
 JR>                                 /JIM/

I am not familiar with this CD. Can you give a brief intro?
Tahnks,
Michael Sells

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 1863
  To: BOB KELLY                                Date: 07/12/93 10:49a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Jul 07 08:04>, Bob Kelly of 1:275/16 writes:

MS>MS> I have a copy of The 7th Guest I would like to trade for other CD's. I
MS>MS> willconsider all trades. What have you got???

 BK> I have the following:

 BK> Phoenix 3.0 Shareware NightOwl Business Applications Disk
 BK> MicroSoft Small Business Consultant

 BK> Interested?

Sorry Bob, I have both of these.
Thanks,
Michael Sells

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1864
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/01/93 10:07p
Subj: PORKER TOO                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>The review has been posted. There's not much on it I don't already have,
BJ>except for one directory <G>.  If you'll give me a "reviewer's price",
BJ>you can go ahead an put it on my tab. Let me know.
BJ>BTW: The installation disk gives evidence of a Pork-Ware II.  If/When
BJ>you get these, I'd like to look at it as well. Cheers!

Bob,

How about 25 bucks for #1?  Fair enough for a "reviewer's price?".
Porkware 2 is on the way for review.

Thanks,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1865
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/01/93 10:08p
Subj: DICT & LANG                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ> MS> CD's on sale at $9.95 each, including Dictionaries and Languages

BJ>I'll take one; send it along with the $6 CD (and Oink 2) to save
BJ>shipping.

Bob,

It's going out to you today, along with the $6 shareware CD, and Oink 2
(for review).

Thanks again,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1866
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93 10:08p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 IS HERE!!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ATTENTION NIGHT OWL USERS!   NOW IN STOCK - THE LATEST AND GREATEST
NIGHT OWL OF ALL . . . . . . . . .
                                    . . . N  I  G  H  T      O  W  L
                                              |   |        +=======+
PRICE:  $45.00                            ====|===|====    ||     ||
                                              |   |        ||     ||
SPECIAL EARLY BIRD OFFER                  ====|===|====    +=======|
------------------------                      |   |               ||
Order before July 4, and                                          ||
receive your choice of:                       +-----+             ||
                                              | $45 |
    . Software Vault 2                        +-----+
    . Shareware Studio 2
    . Powerpak 3.0
    . Night Owl 7 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $15 additional!

or  . Night Owl 8 . . . . . . . . . for ONLY $25 additional!

>> PREVIOUS STARVECTOR CUSTOMERS CALL FOR YOUR SPECIAL PRICE!

CALL TO ORDER YOUR COPY TODAY! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1-800-767-1284
OPERATORS (Rainie & I) ARE STANDING BY!

>> WE WILL NOT BE UNDERSOLD ON THIS TITLE!  FIND IT FOR LESS?  IF IT'S A
>> LEGITIMATE AD, WE'LL BEAT THE PRICE - GUARANTEED!

***************************************************************************
Plus, all Starvector customers between now and July 17th will automatically
be entered in our drawing for a FREE PIER 2 shareware CD!  Drawing will be
held on Monday, July 19th, with the WINNER ANNOUNCED ON RIME AND FIDONET!
***************************************************************************

----- NO PURCHASE NECESSARY -------- GREAT COMPANION FOR NIGHT OWL 8! -----

+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| To enter Starvector's PIER 2 GIVEAWAY, simply fill out a postcard with  |
| your name, address, and phone number, and mail it to:  Starvector       |
| Software * PO BOX 8160 * Yakima WA 98908.  All entries must be received |
| by Saturday July 17th to qualify.  Entry into this giveaway will be     |
| automatic for all Starvector customers placing orders between June 22,  |
| and July 17th.  One entry per person please.  Drawing held July 19th.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1867
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/01/93 10:08p
Subj: ADULT CD TITLES                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 July 1993                ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 7/01
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 Animation Fantasies 1.........29.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Animation Fantasies 2.........29.00    Porkware 2 (New!).............37.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Busty Babes...................33.00    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........29.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Exotic Girls (Closeout).......25.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........59.00
 Giffy Gold ("R"-rated)........39.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................34.50    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................34.50    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................34.50    Storm 2.......................30.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............34.50    Storm 3.......................31.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......28.00    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Swimwear & More (New!)........29.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....59.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).59.00    Tropical Girls (Closeout).....25.00
 PC-PIX 1......................30.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 PC-PIX 2......................30.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 PC-PIX 3......................30.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

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From: DAVID STULTS                           Number: 1868
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 07/02/93  9:08a
Subj: CD-ROM, discs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> DS>    Nightowl 8.0 ..................................... $ 15

>I'll take it + 2.90 for 2nd-day USPS. Leave me you address
>& preferred payment via Netmail if availible or here. Thank

Sorry, that CD has been sold.

David Stults
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From: DAVID STULTS                           Number: 1869
  To: RON MITCHELL                             Date: 07/02/93  9:09a
Subj: CD-ROM, discs                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>  >     Nightowl 8.0 ..................................... $ 15
>  >     Phoenix-CD (also shareware) ...................... $ 10

>If you still have these titles, let me know where to send a MO.

Sorry, both of those have been sold.

David Stults
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From: JERRY MICKISH                          Number: 1870
  To: ALLAN KENNEDY                            Date: 07/12/93 12:52a
Subj: Re: STAR VECTOR                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for the information.


Jerry



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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1871
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/11/93 11:04p
Subj: OUR TRADE                               Refer: NONE
Read: 07/15/93  1:54p                       Private: No

 -> Please don't give out my phone number on a national echo. It's unlist
 -> for a real good reason.
 TH> If you can't back up your opinions with a voice phone number, then
 TH> don't post.  What are you hiding?

I would like to publicly apologize to you for my posting that you played
favorites.  From the statement you make above, it is clear that you have an
objective outlook.

 * MKRead v1.01 * Two blonds in a Volkswagon: farfromthinkin.


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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 1872
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  3:02a
Subj: Mitsumi drivers needed                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

@SUBJECT:MITSUMI DRIVERS NEEDED   &  DISK FOR SALE                   N

    I am in desperite need of some help...  I just got one of the new
Mitsumi's for use on my BBS, and the driver that came with it REFUSES
to cooperate with QEMM.  If ANYONE has the Mitsumi drivers along with
the other driver it came with, could you please ZIP up the installation
diskette that has the drivers on it, and let me know where I could
possibly FREQ it from. The version I have is version 2.1, so I would
be willing to try any version Prior to it.

ON TOPIC POST:

      I have Software Toolworks, 20th Century Almanac for sale,
    if anyone is interested. Excellent shape.  MAKE offer (Resonable)

                Todd

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1873
  To: LEWIS BULLARD                            Date: 07/11/93 11:45a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LB>Pat, I would sure like to read your ads, but the formatting just give
LB>me the
LB>shivers! Please try to straighten this out, so I can comfortably read
LB>them.
LB>It's gotten to the point that I just look at the ad and click forward
LB>This
LB>is a sincere message, and not meant as any kind of flame.

I think you were responding to an ad posted in June, Lewis. The July postings
*should* improve (I hope!)....... BTW, I quoted *your* message verbatim. Was it
formatted that way? The reason I ask is, I *only* have formatting problems on
FIDO, all other NETS carry the messages exactly as posted. Regards, Pat

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1874
  To: STEVE STACY                              Date: 07/11/93 11:45a
Subj: Cde = cd's, educational                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SS>Patrick,  Glad to see that your posts are aligning correctly.  Lookin
SS>forward to your post on Texel bundels.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll get one out to you right away (maybe even in this packet).

Pat

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1875
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/11/93 11:45a
Subj: Let me try again.....                   Refer: NONE
Read: 07/15/93  1:55p                       Private: No

TH>Good job, Patrick... I can read your ads!  ;)

TH>tim
TH>moderator

Tim,

I am PSYCHED!

Now, let me post a couple hundred right away......

;-)

Pat
moderated



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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1876
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/11/93  2:24p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Michael!

Friday July 02 1993, Michael Benge writes to all:

 MB> This is a public warning to anyone planning on trading/buying discs from
 MB> Terry Woodward.  I shipped a disc to Terry, on the condition he would

Take it to netmail or quit your whining.  Terry is a VERY respected man in this
echo, and it'll take a lot more than the likes of you to change that.  Terry is
honest enough that I send discs to him BEFORE being paid.  Aren't you the one
who crys about every deal in the CFORSALE, CLASSIFIEDS or FORSALE echos?  I
think you are...

Welcome to my twit filter, sport.


... D.C.'s Geriatric Park: Home of Arkansaurus Taxanspendus!

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 1877
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93 12:42a
Subj: Assembler CD-ROM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its Assembler CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
391 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:[phone], EMail:[e-mail]
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1878
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  1:45a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $39.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - MONSTER MEDIA '93'   PRICE - $29.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $30.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - WINBOX - GAMEWARE - CD POWERBOX    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $15. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $55. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
                     24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO


Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1879
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  1:45a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $369.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $459.00
Sony Int 380ms Bare Dr  - $285.00 LIMITED Sony Ext 380ms Kit   - $395.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $14.00ec
Information on the above or 400 + CD titles call [phone] anytime !


Boris Osadciw

... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: HENRY ARIAS                            Number: 1880
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 07/12/93  6:00a
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

SP>Sorry - my question wasn't clear. Does all the art (painting, sculptur
SP>and architecture) derive from one period; i.e., Renaissance? Or does t
SP>CD include works from different periods?
SP>
        It spans various time periods. Begins with the cave painting and
Lascaux and moves right up to modern times. Various artists and movements
are represented. The database allows one to search by artist, movement,
time period, painting, architecture, sculpture, etc., also has some spoken
narration if you have a sound card.. Later <Henry>

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From: BENJAMIN KEEN                          Number: 1881
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  9:36p
Subj: Mac CD ROM Wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone have a Mac-compatible CD-ROM? (SCSI) I'm looking around for
one but I'm too cheap to pay over $400. Cables and driver software
_strongly_ preferred. Used is fine, multisession Photo CD and double speed
would be nice but certainly not neccessary, MPC-compliance preferred.

Thanks in advance...
Ben


 This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated.

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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 1882
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  7:01a
Subj: Virtual Valerie                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a title by the name of Virtual Valerie.  I would be
interested in this CD...for the best price I can get it.  Does anyone
out there want to part with their copy?

Al James

-Yes, I got the notion to get it from the Phil Donahue Show when they
demoed it on that show on virtual reality.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1883
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/12/93  7:24a
Subj: CD SALE!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Take yer time, Michael - I have no problem waiting.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1884
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/12/93  7:26a
Subj: New adult cd                            Refer: NONE
Read: 07/15/93  1:57p                       Private: No

Boy, am I glad to ehar that! I *did* get a reply from the Aussie who posted
the original message - said A$70 was about US$50, but didn't give any details
on contents, etc. (you know me - gotta have the data!!). Gimme a buzz when
you're ready to distribute. Cheers!

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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 1885
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/12/93 12:51p
Subj: CD SALE!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Mike

 > either, so don't worry.  I've got about 450 CD's
 > coming from Chestnut,

Send me a catalog of these will you....Email or snail will do. I should be in
your data base some where.....

PS. With all the extra orders you are getting from Bubba are you going to put
him on the pay roll....( Great Big Grin) (((((((((-;

..Red..

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From: HOWARD ABRAHAM                         Number: 1886
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  7:10p
Subj: sierra                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm interested in buying any used Sierra CD-ROM games that are in good shape
and are complete with all documentation.

call 612-561-2582 or post here with info

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From: LARRY JAQUES                           Number: 1887
  To: ERYN BAY                                 Date: 07/11/93  7:57a
Subj: Office 3.0                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EB>  EB> What can I get in trade for Microsoft Office 3.0?

How about a copy of Lotus 123 MPC with Smarthelp?  They're around
the same list price, I believe.  Let me know here or call me.

Larry Jaques    Diversify! Computer Services  [phone]  24hrs
      Suite 159   1035 E. Vista Way   Vista, CA  92084-4606
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From: JOHN BRODERICK                         Number: 1888
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  5:08p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    I would like a CHEAP Cd-rom. It doesn't have to be fast just work.
Would like one with card but will consider one with out. Must be
external.

    Willing to trade one joystick with card, sim life (with manuals),one
internal 2400baud modem, and some cash.

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1889
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/12/93  9:03a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>BH>   SLMR 2.1a   Think hard now!  Which one is Shinola?

I got that one from a huge collection of taglines I have stolen, made
up, or added to a file on the Up All Night CDROM I just released.   I am
hopelessly addicted to tag lines.  I may not read the message, but I
will read the tag line for sure!

BOB
:-)

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1890
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/12/93  9:21a
Subj: NIGHTOWL 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: 07/15/93  1:58p                       Private: No

TH>I've never cut anyone's feed to this echo, but you're pushing me to the
TH>limit.  Stop whining.  This is your last chance, bubba.  EOT.

TH>tim
TH>moderator

Damn you're mean.  Do me a favor Mr. Moderator Tim, keep all this you
want in the CDROM_SALE echo.  (ROTFLMAO)  Have all the fun you can stand
with the bickering, whining, flaming, bitching, tattletelling, name
calling, and other related BS.  I am used to it, I have been doing it
for 8 years. And FYI, I have damned sure pulled feeds, several, and all
for one month. Remember, as moderator, you can even pull the feed from
an IC or IEC, if it is warranted.

(ROTFLMAO) (ROTFLMAO) (ROTFLMAO) Repeat this about 10,000 times and you
will get the picture.

BTW: Tim, have a nice day.
still (ROTFLMAO)
BOB
:-)

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 1891
  To: MIKE PETRO                               Date: 07/12/93  9:23a
Subj: NIGHTOWL 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MP>it has no place on this echo. If you have a legitimate beef with him
MP>take it ti Small Claims Court, not here.

To some people, the echo's are small claims court.  They just get
carried away in their little puddle of self inflicted power, and think
they run the world.

Sorry Moderator, just could not help interjecting this opinion.

BOB
:-)

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1892
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  1:25a
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

**************************************************************************
**********************  CD-ROM International  ****************************
**************************************************************************

        CD PowerBox v1.0        $19       Q&A on CD-ROM v4.0      $37
        CD WinBox v1.0          $29       Storm I and II (set)    $39
        CD *.Box v1.0 (set)     $39       Super_CD II             $19
        Guinness Disc of Records$24       USA Wars: Desert Storm  $25
        Night Owl's v8.0        $29       USA Wars: Korea         $25
        Night Owl's v9.0        $34       USA Wars: Vietnam       $25
        NOPV8 & NOPV9 (set)     $54       USA Wars: World War II  $25
        Publish-It! v2.0        $24

                           * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
CD-ROM International       * Call our BBS for the latest catalog, or   *
[phone] (Orders)    * file request CATALOG from 1:344/79.  The  *
[phone] (Voice)     * catalog has been updated with new titles  *
[phone] (BBS/Fax)   * and lower prices.                         *
Cash/COD/Credit Cards      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *



... Don't blame me... I voted for Bush!

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From: RUSSELL NABER                          Number: 1893
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  2:55a
Subj: Questions                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!


I just got hooked into this echo and I have a few questions I hope somebody can
help me with.


1.) I have a Adaptec 1742b SCSI controller, will most CD ROM drives work ok
with this? If so where can I get either a multiple scsi ribbon that has at
least 5 pin connectors on it, or where can I get the external type pin
connector.

2.) Which CD-ROM drive is the best in the terms of price/speed for BBS use.

3.) What if any comments does anybody have on the Pioneer 6 disk changer.

4.) What type of compatibility problems will I experience in the terms of
having both IBM and MAC CD-ROMS online.

5.) Also how are the directory's on CD-ROMS setup. How do I intergrate them
with files.bbs type files for my BBS software.


I hope somebody can answer these questions as I wish to be fully informed
before purchasing anything to setup better file access for my BBS.




Russell

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From: GEOFF HOWARD                           Number: 1894
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/11/93  7:23a
Subj: Cd's wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Vince
Its a long time no see,now a canadian distributor, Please send a Cat- too
Geoff Howard 71 Wilkins St Trenton Ont K8V 3M9

               Geoff
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From: RICK MEENAN                            Number: 1895
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  3:25p
Subj: Looking For a cd-rom                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I've been looking for a CD-ROM containing GIF photos of porno stars.
I'm pretty new at this so don't know what's out there that may have the
material I'm looking for.  Therefore, anyone selling a CD-ROM(s) they
think might be of help drop me a line.  I'd be interested in getting
catalogs from anyone thinking they have what I'm looking for.  Let me
know what's out there guys!

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From: NOEL HUPE                              Number: 1896
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 07/12/93 11:54a
Subj: SHE'S BACK & SHE'S BETTER               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

\\michella,
            i'm interested in purchasing a cd-rom driver and some xxx cd-rom
software.my question is would you be able to supply product that is compatible
to my soundblaster pro deluxe,and os2 2.1,plus cost.ttyl,noel


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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 1897
  To: ERICK GROWCOCK                           Date: 07/12/93 11:37p
Subj: Sony CD-Rom for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Erick!

Wednesday July 07 1993, Erick Growcock writes to Chris Kuefler:


 EG>     MicroSoft BookShelf (1991)
 EG>     Languages of the World
 EG>     Mixed-Up mother goose
 EG>     U.S. Atlas
 EG>     National Geographic Mammals

How much would you be interested in selling the Mixed-Up mother goose title?


Danny

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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 1898
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/12/93  8:49p
Subj: Apple Cd-Rom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   Thanks for the information you gave me. I will definitely check this
out.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1899
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/12/93 12:01a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ> MS> ****************************************************************
BJ> MS> ***
BJ> MS> July 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last up
BJ> MS> 7/08
BJ> MS> ****************************************************************

BJ>Your lists are line-wrapping again, big fella. Makes it tough on us
BJ>dyslexics (::-|

Hmmm,

I wonder why that is.  I have my right margin set to 75, and it never
changes.  In fact, I think you're the only one in this conference who has
informed me of this.  I wonder if others see it wrapping too.  Let me
post another test listing, and see what happens . . .

TO ALL READERS . . . The following is a section of my ad.  Please reply
back as to whether or not it is legible:

 C User's Group Library........31.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 California Collection.........17.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...25.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    Our Solar System..............14.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-SIG #12....................28.00
 CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC Gameroom...................28.00

Bob,

Please give me your feedback on this also.

Thanks,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1900
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/12/93 12:01a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ> MS> (Just kidding Bob - more like 10 bucks)
BJ>Well, it was $10 until my last order - now it's zip. (:<

Sorry, I guess I shouldn't have charged that lobster dinner on it.  8)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1901
  To: MARK SMITKA                              Date: 07/12/93 12:01a
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>advertising.  The customer will lose _all_ objectivity, but will also have
MS>gotten a free meal!  Sounds like the American way to me!  :-) BTW, for those
MS>that will accuse me of writing this as a "cheap shot" for a discount, that's
MS>not the case. However, you _can_ send me a catalog to:

Mark,

Catalog's on the way, and I appreciate your supportive comments.  (BTW:
Your "cheap shot" worked)  8)

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1902
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93 12:01a
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 ALL READERS:  Please let me know if you can read this OK.  Thanks

 **************************************************************************
 July 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 7/08
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........15.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00
 7th Guest.....................54.00    MIDI Music Shop...............31.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Monarch Notes.................64.00
 American Business Phonebk 1...18.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 2...28.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...43.00
 Amiga AB20....................16.50    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.50    Mother of All Clipart.........24.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.50    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....30.00
 Audubon's Birds...............26.00    National Business Directory...39.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............26.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    National Parks................32.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 4.2.................22.00
 Bible Library.................31.00    Night Owl 5.0.................23.00
 Bibles & Religion.............14.00    Night Owl 6.2.................24.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 7.0.................25.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 8.0.................29.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....15.00    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....37.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 For CD info, stock checks, sports scores, & general BS, call..509-457-2892
 When you're ready to order, call.....(orders only please).....800-767-1284
 BBS: 509-457-0206 COMING SOON!!  ONLINE ORDERING & CD-ROM FILE LISTINGS!!!
 Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!  (Sysops get 3-day air shipping @ $0 add'l)

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: LEN BUSSEY                             Number: 1903
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 07/12/93  3:36a
Subj: RE:adult Cd                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> CB> I am partial to the Storm collection. I have Storm I and Storm II.
> CB> Both are nice CDs.
>
Where can I find the Storm CD's.  Anybody out there want to sell any?

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From: LEN BUSSEY                             Number: 1904
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/12/93  4:02a
Subj: RE:nightowl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> BT> I thought this matter was laid to rest!........ END OF SUBJECT!

> BT> i seen that mike shannon is selling nightowl 9 for $37.00
> BT> tell me is that extorsion or price fixing?
> BT> he claims the lowest prices available.....MIKE you had better
> BT> drop that $37. price tag to $24.95 if you want to be the lowest
> BT> price guy.

I don't know Mike Shannon because I have never done business with him so
I am not taking up his side in this message.  I am also not saying that
you may not have a reason to gripe.  But you do seem to want to keep
arguing about this matter and you are intentionally trying to hurt
someone's business.  In one message you say "End of Subject"  and in
the next message you start in on it again.  I would have kept still
about this but you DID address your message to ALL.

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From: LEN BUSSEY                             Number: 1905
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/13/93  1:27a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I like your attitude towards your customers and business in general.  I
would appreciate it if you could send me one of your current catalogs.
I operate a BBS and am mainly interested in adult and shareware cds.
Please send the catalog to:

                            Len Bussey
                            5631 Delina Rd
                            Petersburg, TN  37144


p.s.  Your thread with Bubba made up my mind on who I would like to do
business with.  For that I thank him also.

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From: KEVIN DEW                              Number: 1906
  To: RICHARD NIXON                            Date: 07/12/93 10:48p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Sound's good, but will it have any *.S3M's *.STM's or *.669's?
I'm in to the "more than 4 channel" music now.. Let me know when it comes out.

Kevin

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1907
  To: MICHAEL COLLIER                          Date: 07/13/93  1:55a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>> -=>> Quoting Boris Osadciw to All <=-
BO>>
BO>> BO>> NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
BO>>

BO>>This unit is an External true SCSI unit that offers 450ms access time
BO>>with 150kps transfer rate. It's Novell, OS/2 and MPC compliant and is
BO>>caddless. It's a complete system, which means you get the drive,
BO>>comntroller, shielded cable, drivers and manual as well as the full
BO>>warrenty and head phones.
BO>>
BO>>Need further assistance, please feel free to call us at 216-225-3263
BO>>and we'll be more than happy to help you.

>>       Hi Boris, How much extra for a notebook interface for the
>>       NEC 36? Also, do you carry the Microsolutions Backpack
>>     drives?

We carry the Trantor Parallel host adaptors, that will allow you to
attach the above drive or any SCSI device to a notebook via the
parallel port. There are three versions to select from, one being the
MiniSCSI with and average transfer rate of 100kps, then there's the
MiniSCSI PLUS, with and average transfer rate of 260kps and then
there's the MiniSCSI EPP, which offers up to 1 MB per sec transfer rate.

As you can see you do have a good selection to chose from. So, what it
comes down to is " What are your personal needs ? ".

If you'd like to discuss this matter further, please feel free to give us
a call at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 1908
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/13/93  1:55a
Subj: BRAND NEW CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

(((((((((((((((( B R A N D  N E W  S O U N D W A R E ))))))))))))))))
   The LARGEST Collection of Sound Files anywhere, now on CD !!
   Over 10,000 - CMF, CMS, MOD, ROL, SND, VOC, and WAV FILES.
   Ready to use, many of which are custome files. All files are
   in PKZIP format and most of them are current - 600 + megs
   This CD is BBS READY, with discriptions in every directory.
   BONUS - 200+ High Res, G-rated gif files have been added
                        Price - $29.00
ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 TECH LINE 216-225-3263 FAX [phone]
" If you have a Sound Card, you'll want this CD and so will your users ! "


Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: TED KIDD                               Number: 1909
  To: RON THOMPSON                             Date: 07/07/93  7:56p
Subj: Apple Cd-Rom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 RT> Can anyone out there tell me of the good/bad points of getting an
RT> Apple Cd-Rom drive. My daughter will be getting a Macintosh LC3 in a
RT> few months, and they recommended it. Is anything else better AND
RT> compatible? Sorry for the ignorance on this, but I am new to CD-Rom
RT> technology. Any and all help will be much appreciated.

The Apple CD-Rom drive is probably THE BEST drive I have personally seen.
A student here at Springbrook Middle School in Adrian, MI dropped one while
they were transporting it to a different classroom and it worked like a
charm... even though it was dropped from 4-5 feet above the ground!!!
As for reliablity... it's a sony inside that case :)  I run 3 Apple drives
on this BBS and I like them more than the NECin the chain... but, the NEC
is a good drive too (not putting them down... but, the Apple drive hasn't
gave me ANY problems...the NEC sometimes doesn't read the disc -- but this
has only happened twice...)  So, all-in-all, Apple CD-Rom drives are
excellent!!!  And, just a suggestion, get the Apple 300 -- it is faster and
it is the multi-session version.  The 150's are good also... but the 300 is
a FAR better drive just because of the multi-session capability and it is
approx. double the speed.
Gee, I hope you aren't more confused :)
Later

Ted



... IBM -- Inferior But Marketable
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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 1910
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 07/11/93  9:58p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

I'm interested in this drive but I'm leary of a 150ms drive and software
for only $200 ???

J.P.
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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 1911
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 07/11/93 10:13p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 !!                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ray,
    I am very interested in Night Owls Ver. 9.0  The best price I have
gotten is  $29 (plus $4 for COD) Total of $33  ... If you can match or
beat this please send one to :

                                J.P. Ladner, Jr.
                                P.O. Box 236
                                Scottsville, VA 24590

or you can reach me via my BBS at 804-286-4685


J.P.
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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 1912
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/11/93 10:07p
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Do you have any more of the Night Owl Disks for $29 ?  IF so I'd like to
buy one..maybe even two...

J.P.
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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 1913
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 07/11/93 10:12p
Subj: PC CDs - Magazine Subscri               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I want Night Owl's 9.0 !!!  Will you do COD ??
If so will you match a ligitamate competitor's price of $29 ???  If
so  please  ssend one to:
                               J.P. Ladner
                               P.O. Box 236
                               Scottsville, VA 24590

Please let me know when shipped including if you'll take a check (and if
so who to make it out to) I will also pay COD charges..

Thanks!
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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 1914
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/13/93  9:12a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Jul 12 00:01>, Mike Shannon of 1:3407/101 writes:

 MS>  C User's Group Library........31.00    Ocean Digital
 MS> Imagery.........34.50
 MS>  California Collection.........17.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac
 MS> S/W)...25.00
 MS>  Career Opportunities..........29.00    Our Solar
 MS> System..............14.00
 MS>  Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-Medic (PC
 MS> Diagnostics).....29.50
 MS>  CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-SIG
 MS> #12....................28.00
 MS>  CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC
 MS> Gameroom...................28.00

Mike,
Looked good to me until I attempted to "Quote" the sample and as you can see...
Cutting the spaces down between list by about 4 should do it.

Michael Sells

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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 1915
  To: VIKKI CLAYTON                            Date: 07/10/93  4:33p
Subj: Re: CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 VC> Got the CD you sent me - Hot Pics.
 VC> It sure satisfied my request for kink!
 VC> Although I can't get my BBS to recognize it yet, and it
 VC> locks up every time I run start.bat, I do believe that
 VC> could be me - computerarilly disadvantaged.
 VC> I want to thank you for your business-like handling of a bad situation.

 Vikki, I have also acquired a disk and a Sony CDU-31A-02 that does not
 read it. Could you please let me know the make/model of your CD Drive?
 thanks...

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: BENJAMIN KEEN                          Number: 1916
  To: RON THOMPSON                             Date: 07/12/93 10:35p
Subj: APPLE CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 07-07-93, Terry Woodwardne out there tell me of the good/bad points of
getting an
RT>Apple Cd-Rom drive. My daughter will be getting a Macintosh LC3 in a
few
RT>months, and they recommended it. Is anything else better AND
compatible?
RT>Sorry for the ignorance on this, but I am new to CD-Rom technology.

Ron,
If it's the integrated CdRom that comes in the LCIII, it's a good deal.
I recently bought a Centris 610 and spang for the internal cdrom model,
even though I had a Nec84. Be sure to get the 300Kps models. Stay away
from the older Apple drives and the new cute, black one.

>------------------------------------
Actually, the LCIII cannot take an _internal_ cd rom. The case has room
for a SuperDrive (3.5" floppy) and a 3.5" Half height hard disk.
The Apple one you want is the  AppleCD 300. It is state of the art
(double-speed and Multisession photoCD compatible) and costs $599 form the
Apple catalog w/ 9 CDs. Avoid the AppleCD 150i and Apple's consumer
'PowerCD' (the cute black one - its slow) Go to the dealer and twist their
arm a little and you should get the AppleCD 300 for less than the $599
list.


 This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated.


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From: DAN HATTERICK                          Number: 1917
  To: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                         Date: 07/12/93  7:20p
Subj: CD ROM SPEED VS. BBS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MG>        I was looking into getting the 6 disc pioneer mini
MG>changer
MG> the access time on it is 600ms and the transfer rate is 153kb
MG>per
MG>second. I wanna use it on a bbs. Can anyone that either has this
MG>drive or know anything about the speed tell me if its fast
MG>enough so theres practically 0 wait state or close to it. What
MG>would be recommended. I know about the toshiba 200ms access time
MG>and all which is over $400.00. But its just going to be online
MG>for transfers so i need to know.. Help.. Enough said already..
MG>Lemme know
MG>                        HELP.................................

MG>                        Michael
Micheal speed is not important on a BBS.It would only help on installing them
or maintenace or such.Other than that Im running a Network and the Network is
27k per second or something.I could be in Windows and the CDDrives are way
faster than any 14400 modem can download.I would say even faster than any
16.8,19.2,or whatever these phone lines will allow.If your BBS Software looks
for the files on the CDS when people do a file search that would be slow no
matter what player you buy.If you buy one of those 6 disk changers I wouldnt
see how anyone would wait for the search.The 6 CD Player is good if your
hurting on IRQ's.But I run multinode and I dont see how 2 people could download
off of 2 seperate CDS at the same time.Unless your BBS software copies the
files to the hard drive before they download which mine does.But there still
would be interupptions when the discs change.So all in all,access speed can be
considered if your judging quality or running hefty games or Multimedia. -Dan

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 1918
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/12/93  8:37p
Subj: Toshiba CDROM Drives                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hiya, Michael!
On Jul 11, Michael Konor spake thusly to All:


 MK> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

 MK> Features: Warranty, DIP switches for ID, Parity, and
 MK> Arbitration, 50 pin   SCSI, 350ms/156k rates, external
 MK> headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,  64k buffer.
 MK> Still have several remaining.

 MK> 205-837-5053

NICE talking to you, michael - looking forward to getting that drive. :)

\/\/ild_________
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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 1919
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/12/93  8:42p
Subj: cd catolog                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hiya, Mike!

i'd be interested in receiving your cd rom catalog...

4282 E. Dayton, #C
Fresno, CA 93726-6137

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1920
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/13/93 11:48a
Subj: PORKER TOO                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Yep...that's a good price, Mike. Pleasure doin' business wid cha'.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1921
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/13/93 11:49a
Subj: DICT & LANG                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Great! It'll be next week before I can look at them. Ciao!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1922
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/13/93 12:33p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DR> Welcome to my twit filter, sport.


This is priceless! As soon as I can get off MegaMail and on to SLMR, I
gonna use it's filter! "Twit" -- priceless!
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 1923
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 07/13/93  9:17a
Subj: sellin' some roms                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> I'm interested in the following (if you still have them, I tend to run
>> behind in reading my mail packets):

>> EB> CICA Windows (Dec)           $10.00
>> EB> US History                   $15.00
>> EB> Microsoft Bookshelf 92       $10.00
>> EB> Time Tables of History S+I   $15.00
>> EB> Family Doctor                $25.00
>> EB> Greatest Books 150           $20.00
>> EB> NASA Voyager Image data      $10.00 /ea.
>> EB> Garbo CD (MSDos/Mac)         $15.00

    Sorry, all sold.

Eric


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From: MAHMUT KURSUN                          Number: 1924
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  1:00p
Subj: new Walnut Creek                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The new Walnut Creek CDROM's are out:
Datenträger in Laufwerk E ist HOBBES_0693  9669 Datei(en)  641325442 Byte
Datenträger in Laufwerk E ist AMINET_0693 11380 Datei(en)  637850234 Byte
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^ Thats the Name of the CDROM
Hobbes is for OS/2 and Aminet is Amiga.   Each 49.00 DM (German Marks)
both ISO9660 incl. BBS descriptions
visa accepted, +s/h 3 DM surface Europe, 17 DM Airmail world
 Kursun CDROM Versand        tel: ++49-89-6378421
 Karl-Marx-Ring 148          fax: ++49-89-6378429
 81737 Munich/GERMANY        [e-mail]

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From: VINCENT TESTA                          Number: 1925
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 07/13/93 10:57a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi drivers needed              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi'ya Todd ...

Monday July 12 1993, at 03:02, Todd Crawford Mentioned to All:

 TC>     I am in desperite need of some help...  I just got one of the new
 TC> Mitsumi's for use on my BBS, and the driver that came with it REFUSES
 TC> to cooperate with QEMM.

Mine works fine ;

DEVICE=C:\dos\MTMCDE.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:360 /A:0 /M:20 /T:5 /I:10

I found that if I don't load it high it works.


Ciao, Vincent
...The truth doesn't hurt unless it ought to.

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From: ERIC JORGENSEN                         Number: 1926
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 07/11/93  9:55p
Subj: Cheap CD-ROM Drives                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

i would like to buy a cd-rom drive and controller and stuff... what's the
cheapest price i can get to gte everything i need to run a cd-rom drive?



THANKS!


... OFFLINE 1.37 * I only counted 100 dalmatians...!!!
...............................


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 1927
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/13/93  7:13a
Subj: Re: nightowl 9                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> And most of his prices on all CDs except Nightowl 9 are higher than most
> of us..so save now and pay higher later <g>.
First of all, you guys are home based businesses while we are full commercial,
we pay rent, tax ect. We also stock everything we sell, I know for sure that,
several of you doing this business as a second income. Can you host any of your
customer in place of your business?  So, do you think it is fair to compare you
with full commercial businesses?. Plus, we do have good prices with good
service. Regards

GroupWare

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From: JEFF OLESEN                            Number: 1928
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/07/93 10:37a
Subj: Nasa roms                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Eric,

EB>    NASA Roms sent Tuesday.  Insured and valued at $50.00.  Don't have

I noticed your message to someone else. Do you have any more of the NASA ROMS
available? Can you tell me where I can order new ones from? I have been looking
for them (not very hard though) for some time now.

Thanks,
 Jeff O.
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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 1929
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/12/93 11:14p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MB>This is a public warning to anyone planning on trading/buying discs from Ter
MB>Woodward.  I shipped a disc to Terry, on the condition he would cross ship a
MB>disc in return, by priority mail.  He failed to do so. After receiving a

You obviously wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the butt. I told
you EXACTLY what happened. I returned from trying to take care of my
mother after her stroke to help Rich Verra, a quadrapeligic set up his
computer. I had less than 12 hours of sleep in three days. I awoke
Monday morning to a nasty note from you. I sent the disk back to you on
My account, not my bosses.

Is your infantile prattling going to continue much longer? Why not
accept that fact that your temper tantrums don't go over well with
grownups.

NOW it's the end of the thread. But I'll just bet you can't let it go...


 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * Farfrompoopin! The German word for constipation.


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From: CRAIG MOSER                            Number: 1930
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  3:32p
Subj: MAC CD-ROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Quantum Leap Technologies in Miami Florida is now selling the GIGA-ROM
Macintosh shareware CD-ROM v4.0. This is simply the BEST and most up-to-date
HFS Mac disc available. Contains tons of System 7 utilities & programs,
extensions, cdevs, truetype fonts, sounds, telecommunications files,
educational, business, and so much more.

Version 4.0 works great with TeleFinder, FirstClass, Hermes, Second Sight,
MUBBS, NovaLink bulletin board systems. The disc is neatly organized and simple
to place online as a large unerasible volume.

ATTN DOS SYSOPS - QLTech is also offering the FIRST ISO-9660 MAC SHAREWARE
CD-ROM for your DOS based BBS. The Giga-ROM v3.0 ISO can be used on systems
such as TBBS and others.

Call Quantum Leap TOLL FREE - [phone] for more details & special sysop
pricing. Specify which disc format you are interested in & tell them you heard
about it here on Fidonet!


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From: JOE STEVENS                            Number: 1931
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/13/93  5:07p
Subj: CD ROM...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am interested in Purchasing a CD ROM drive.  I have looked at several
models... the one whick is the least expensive and still offers reasonable
features is a mitsumi brand.  Does anyone out there have one and do you know if
it is any good?  Also... I have been told it only has an 8 bit interface
card... not a 16 bit.  What is the advantage to a 16 bit interface?
Thanks...

Joe Stevens.

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1932
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/13/93  5:05p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MB> This is a public warning to anyone planning on trading/buying
 MB> Terry Woodward.  I shipped a disc to Terry, on the condition he would
 DR> Take it to netmail or quit your whining.  Terry is a VERY
 DR> respected man in this echo, and it'll take a lot more than the
 DR> likes of you to change that. Terry is honest enough that I send

I posted a public statement about Terry Woodward when he ripped me off. I
believe it has been stated by the moderator that one public warning is allowed
when someone like Terry Woodward defrauds another participant of this echo.  I
simply posted my warning about being ripped off by Terry Woodward, and ended
the thread.  Since you are not the moderator, and I was participating in this
echo according to the rules that state I may warn others not to get ripped off
by Terry Woodward, your post means nothing to me or the thread about Terry
Woodward ripping me off.

 DR> discs to him BEFORE being paid.  Aren't you the one who crys about
 DR> every deal in the CFORSALE, CLASSIFIEDS or FORSALE echos?  I think
 DR> you are...

No, I don't frequent those echoes.  Get your facts straight before slinging
asinine falsehoods.  I do know that I responded to your ads on several
occasions, and you were not answering your phone either time, nor did you
return my calls.  Nice way to do business.
 DR> Welcome to my twit filter, sport.

It really is a sad sate of affairs when supposed "men" sling false statements,
then hide behind twit filters to avoid reading the truth. Join your lying buddy
and enjoy yourselves.
By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off?

 * MKRead v1.01 * I'm not nearly as think as you confused I am.


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From: JIM REED                               Number: 1933
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/13/93  4:59p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>I am not familiar with this CD. Can you give a brief intro?
MS>Tahnks,

Hi Michael;
        I got impatient and went out and bought T7G ($59). so any trade
        is off.  Sorry.  AF2 is a collection of adult XXX GL movies.
                                /JIM/

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1934
  To: DON KULHA                                Date: 07/13/93 12:48a
Subj: Starvector                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DK>called and ordered a couple CD's from him. Seemed like the least I could do.
DK>Have a nice day.

Don,

Hope you got them OK.  Thanks a lot for the order, and don't be a
stranger!

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1935
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/13/93 12:48a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MB>This is a public warning to anyone planning on trading/buying discs from
Terr
MB>Woodward.  I shipped a disc to Terry, on the condition he would cross ship a
MB>disc in return, by priority mail.  He failed to do so. After receiving a

Michael,

In defense of Terry, I have dealt with him several times, both from the
sending AND receiving end, and I've found him to be very polite and
honest in his dealings with me.  I honestly don't think Terry was out to
cheat you Michael, it's just that sometimes there ARE extenuating
circumstances that put a person's commitments on hold.  He told me
about his ill mother also, so he is telling the truth.

Oh yeah, please don't drag me into this - I have enough trouble of my
own.  Just adding my honest opinion about a person I feel has treated me
very professionally.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1936
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 07/13/93 12:48a
Subj: STARVECTOR                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MK> MS> Well it's about time you started ordering from us!  10% off anything
MK> MS> in the house on your next order - sez me!

MK>I would be honored.  However, I do not have a catalog of your products.
MK>How may I obtain one?

Michael,

If you want mine and about 10 other catalogs, you can leave your name and
address here.  If you want mine only, you can give me a call at
509-457-2892, or download STARCAT.ZIP from our BBS at 509-457-0206.  8)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1937
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/13/93 12:48a
Subj: BETTER THAN STREET ATLAS?               Refer: NONE
Read: 07/15/93  2:23p                       Private: No

TH>-> TITLE:  Precision Mapping
TH>-> SPECIAL FEATURES:  Full CAD features with draw, edit, and control ove

TH>Will it export the maps to .DWG or .DXF?

YES

TH>And aside from it being DOS based, what other fundamental differences
TH>are there between this disc and Street Atlas USA?

I think the main differences are the CAD features, and the ability to
create and print your own customized maps of virtually any type or
scale.  That, plus the .PCX clip feature.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1938
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 07/13/93 12:48a
Subj: waiting for the boss...                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LF>be useful.  I've also got the CDROM bug myself, and am considering
LF>adding a drive to my pc, and will probably be ordering a few disks for
LF>myself soon. I appreciate all your help on the phone, and will be in
LF>touch soon with my order(s).

Great, looking forward to hearing from you!  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1939
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/13/93 12:48a
Subj: CHESTNUT CD'S...$10! 1/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
                                pg. 1 of 2

   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

TITLES INCLUDE:

1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,
   poetry, humor, cookbooks, American history and founding documents, novels,
   short stories, home improvement guides, computer tutors, and more!

2. WINDOWARE - An excellent disc packed with tons of useful programs for
   Windows 3.0 and 3.1, including typefonts, font installers, games, home
   and business applications, education, wallpaper, utilities, etc.

3. SOUND SENSATIONS! - Adds multimedia excitement to your system!  Includes
   tons of sound effects, music files, jukeboxes, voices, sound clips,
   music voices, etc. in a variety of file formats.

4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities, debuggers,
   troubleshooters, and other programming tools for C/C++, dBase, Clipper,
   Basic, Assembler, AI, Unix, OS/2, Pascal, Forth, and more!

5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
   thesauruses, word-processors, style/syntax/spell checkers, glossaries,
   crossword solvers, foreign language tutors . . . on and on!

6. DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES - Exciting arcade action games: Space wars,
   shoot-em-ups, auto racing, sports, casino gambling, horse and auto
   racing, and more. The fast action will entertain you for years!

7. TOO MANY TYPEFONTS! - Countless typefonts in all formats:  TrueType,
   ATM, Adobe Type 1, WFN, First Publisher, Ghostscript, HPL, etc. Also
   includes typeface modifiers, font managers, downloaders, & utilities.

 ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
 any Chestnut purchase!

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 1940
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/13/93 12:48a
Subj: CHESTNUT CD'S...$10! 2/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
                                pg. 2 of 2

   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

TITLES INCLUDE:

8.  CLIPART GOLIATH - Over 10,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats, plus
    some in color-TIF/PCX, MAC, GIF, etc. Files can be imported to virtually
    every desktop publishing program! Subjects include: Americana, Animals,
    Business, Computing, Entertainment, Food, Holiday, Music, People,
    Religion, Science & Medicine, Signs, Sports, Cartoons, & many more.

9.  HAM RADIO 3.0 - Excellent collection of HAM and SWL programs and data!
    Includes packet radio, satellite communications, frequency lists,
    equipment service, design, mods, logging, news, FAX, FCC, & others.

10. COLOSSAL COOKBOOK - Over 4000 recipes, far more than the "Joy of
    Cooking".  Includes excellent recipe cross-reference and search!
    Includes health/nutrition guides, ethnic and regional recipes, meal
    planning, low-cholesterol diets, cooking instructions, & more!

11. BIBLES & RELIGION - All popular New & Old Testament versions, Book of
    Mormon, Talmud portions, lexicons & concordances, study guides,
    organization membership & fund-raising programs, etc.

12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for all
    applications, with an emphasis on games and Windows programs.  Subjects
    include business, clipart, communications, BBS, database, education,
    finance, games, graphics, religion, sound, utilities, Windows, & more!

13. OUR SOLAR SYSTEM - Exciting NASA and observatory photos of the planets,
    moons, comets, earth, and celestial phenomena!  Includes star locators,
    planetarium programs, astronomical data, voyage simulators, + tons more.

 ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
 any Chestnut purchase!

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE ■ PO BOX 8160 ■ YAKIMA WA 98908 ■ 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA ■ MC ■ AMEX ■ DISCOVER ■ SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs ■ 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: KEVIN OYAMA                            Number: 1941
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/13/93  6:41a
Subj: Re: NixPix1                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> I have an extra copy.  $80 (includes shipping).


I have netmailed back twice with no reply to your origin at Airtight
Garage..... Received your netmail fine.  Net me your address for money-order.
KKO

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From: RUSS BROCKLEHURST                      Number: 1942
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/13/93 12:50p
Subj: CD LOOKING CDN DIST ADULT               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HI I HAVE LOOKING FOR THE CANADAIN DISTRIBUTER OF CD OF ADULT NATURE IF YOU IT
PLEASE SEND A CATALOG TO
P.O. BOX 53093
MARLBOROUGH  P.O.
CALGARY, AB.
T2A 7P1

I LOOK FORWARD TO RESPONSE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE.
THANX RUSS BROCKLEHURST


... "Mr. Worf, fire phasers at VINCE" ... Zzzzzap!
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From: RUSS BROCKLEHURST                      Number: 1943
  To: SHAWN DOWNEY                             Date: 07/13/93 12:50p
Subj: CD WHAT OTHER TITLES                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I AM INTERESTED ABOUT BUSTY BABES BUT ALSO OTHER TITLES WILL LOG ON TO YOUR BBS
PLEASE LET KNOW ABOUT THEM ... ONE WAY OR OTHER
THANX RUSS


... MONEY TALKS ...   but all mine ever says is GOODBYE!
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From: RUSS BROCKLEHURST                      Number: 1944
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/13/93 12:50p
Subj: Re: CLUB EXPOSE'                        Refer: NONE
Read: 07/15/93  2:25p                       Private: No

 -=> Quoting Tim Helton to All <=-

 TH> DISTRIBUTORS WANTED
 TH> -------------------

 TH> We're currently seeking distributors for CLUB EXPOSE' - our new
 TH> interactive adult CD ROM title.

 TH> Exclusive distribution rights will be granted for the following
 TH> regions:  U.S.A., Europe, Asia, Central/South America, Africa,
 TH> Canada, and Australia.  Distributors will be selected based on
 TH> their integrity and ability to move product.

 TH> For more information, call.

 TH> Tim Helton

 TH> Data Express, Inc.          Voice: 404-621-9210
 TH> 6799 Windfaire Dr.          FAX  : [phone]
 TH> Norcross, GA 30093          FIDO :    1:133/515

 TH>  ! Origin: The Liability BBS 404-491-1405 (1:133/515)


I AM ITERESTED IN CANADA BUT I WOULD NEED DETAILS OF CONTENT AND TERMS
PLEASE REPLY AS SO AS POSSIBLE

SINCERELY
RUSS BROCKLEHURST
MANAGER BROXX SERVICES



... A feature is a bug with seniority.
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From: KEVIN OYAMA                            Number: 1945
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/13/93  8:28p
Subj: Re: NixPix1                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


> I have an extra copy.  $80 (includes shipping).

Too late; never heard back from you - received multiple other offers since your
first mail....
KKO

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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 1946
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/14/93  4:51a
Subj: CD-WORLD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                             CD-WORLD
 CD-WORLD                    Price list       For on-line orders call
 2650 Wedgefield RD          July  1993       The BBS at 803-481-7149
 Sumter SC 29154                              Voice 803-481-2276
                                              FIDO 1:3647/2

    Lower prices on nearly every title!!!! Most titles have a files
    list available from My BBS. Look for a * Before the name. Also
    anyone on FIDO net can Freq these files. Freq CDfiles.lst for
    file names and descriptions. Files list are in File area 9 and you
    can log on the BBS as First name Guest, no last name, Pw Guest.
    Look for more files list soon. By August I hope to have one avail-
    ble for all BBS ready CD's.

    For all you Wildcat and PcBoard sysops out there who use Romdoor,
    I have premade databases for most cd's, Look for a ! by the title.
    If you are running a Wilcat or PcBoard BBS and are not using
    Romdoor you should be. This premade feature is a real time saver.
    You can freq or download Romd202.zip for this great program.
    Romdoor Premades are in file area 8 and you can log on as First
    Name Guest, no last name, Pw Guest. I plan to add premades for
    all BBS ready cd's I have. My take a month or two to get em all!
    You can Freq these files also. Freq CDfiles.lst for file names.

    Caddies are now avialable at CD-WORLD. I needed a caddy about
    a week ago and looked at some of the local prices... Outrageous!!!
    Caddies $4.00

    As always, Thank you for choosing CD-WORLD to serve your CD-ROM
    needs. I will always do my best to serve you!!!
    ==================================================================
    Nightowl 9 and Pier 2 are now in stock!!!!

   !Nightowl 9                                          $34.00
    Latest in the Nightowl series. As always this cd promises to be
    one of the Hottest on the Market. BBS Ready!!!

   !Pier 2                                              $39.00
    This CD has had nothing but rave reviews. 50 directories, 4,739
    files, most to all dated 1993. Over 660 meg. BBS Ready!!!!
    ==================================================================
                             NEW TITLES

   *CD WinBox                                           $28.00
    The CD Winbox is a 600+ meg CD-ROM packed full of Thousands of the
    latest Windows Shareware files!! Promises to be one of the Best
    Windows Shareware CD's out. BBS Ready!!

   *PCX PotPourri, Encyclopedia of Clipart              $28.00
    11,000 Files, 51 Directories, 500 meg, New color clips, 65 Adult
    clips. Keyword Search. BBS Ready!!

  *!Sci Fi Fantasy                                      $29.00
    All right all you Trekkies and Sci Fi Sysops. This is what you
    have been waiting for!! Star Trek, Star Wars, Fantasy, and D&D.
    1,200 VGA Pics. Over 100 sound files. BBS Ready!!!!!!!!
    There was a problem with the files.bbs list on this CD-ROM. One of
    my customers took the time to fix this and upload it to my BBS.
    Thanks John Murry, It is avaiable in file area nine.

  *!Shareware Studio Volume II                          $25.00
    Over 5,000 of the best shareware programs available! User friendly
    interface, 640 meg. A great followup to the very popular Shareware
    Studio Volume I. BBS Ready!!

  *!Software Vault Collection II                        $25.00
    635 Meg. Over 1,200 files. Librarian let's you search/creates
    files for Sysops. Excellent Disk. The librarian sytem on this cd
    is an excellent choice for any Sysop. The only reason I did not
    Higly Recommend Collection I is most of you want the latest file
    dates. This one has mostly 93 files. I highly recommend this CD.
    Check it out!!! BBS Ready!!!!!!!!!

    Swim Wear 93                                        $29.00
    1,500 pics of Beautiful Women. V.G.A. Gifs 640x480 to 1024x768. If
    you have been seeking a PG13 cd of Gorgeous Ladies for your BBS
    then this is the one. BBS Ready!!!!!
    ==================================================================

                          New Adult Titles

    Digital Dreams                                      $29.00
    This CD is perfect for anyone desiring a Great "R" rated adult cd.
    All Gifs are simply nude models posing for your pleasure. No XXX
    pics included. Original Scans, 660 meg, Super VGA, BBS Ready!!

    Dirty Talk                                          $45.00
    A 35 minute full motion video of four gorgeous and seductive
    women! This is a full-motion color video (Not Loopscans) Watch as
    sexy Stephanie takes a seductive lotion bath. Experience the
    arresting side of Kinky Kimberly, More. Minimum System
    requirements are, 386-25, Dos 5.0 or higher, 2 meg of ram, SVGA,
    Mouse and a 500ms or faster CD drive.

    Girls of Vivid                                      $55.00
    Over 500 hand picked slides of VIVID Beauties in True Color,
    Guaranteed no two screens the same!!!!!

   *Hot Pix Volume 5                                    $40.00
    Great addition to the Hot Pix series. Directory 1 has general
    shareware files, Mainly pic viewers. The rest of the cd continues
    the Hot Pix tradition of Excellent adult entertainment, Not for
    the weak at heart, BBS Ready!!

    NightWatch "Interactive Adult Movie"                $45.00
    That's right! This is the first interactive full length adult
    movie!! You make the rounds with a Beautiful late night security
    guard as you check out the action in her complex!! This CD
    reguires Microsoft Windows to run!!
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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 1947
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/14/93  4:52a
Subj: CD-WORLD 2                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                             CD-WORLD
 CD-WORLD                    Price list       For on-line orders call
 2650 Wedgefield RD          July  1993       The BBS at 803-481-7149
 Sumter SC 29154                              Voice 803-481-2276
                                              FIDO 1:3647/2


                         CD-WORLD Specials!!

    CD PowerBox and CD WinBox                           $40.00

    Simtel 20 Apr 93 and CICA Windows Apr 93            $35.00

    Shareware Studio Volume I and II                    $35.00

    Software Vault Collection I and II                  $35.00

    My Private Collection I and II                      $75.00

    Storm II and III                                    $65.00
    ==================================================================

                              Shareware
    Bibles and Religion                                 $22.00
    All popular new and old Testament versions, Book of Mormon, Talmud
    portions, lexicons and concordances, study guides, organization
    membership & fundraising programs and commentaries. Covers Judaism
    and Christianity. BBS Ready however it contains both zipped
    formats and unzipped "Ready to use files"

    Business Master 2nd Edition                         $25.00
    Over 1,400 of the highest quality Business related shareware
    available. Most of the programs can be run directly from the
    CD-Rom for instant review. This CD is not intended for BBS use.

  *!CD Powerbox                                         $20.00
    Over 621 meg, 6800 Shareware files. Easy interface for non BBS use
    plus has Files.bbs for all you Sysops out there. Download WinPower
    from File area 9 for windows interface. BBS Ready!!!

   *CICA Windows Apr 93                                 $19.00
    This CD Rom contains the entire CICA Windows collection from
    Indiana University, Hundreds of Megabytes of Microsoft Windows
    programs including utilities, screen savers, backup and restore
    programs, games, demos for commercial programs, icons and
    bitmaps, source code listings and programming tools. BBS Ready!

    Clipart Goliath                                     $22.00
    Thousands of image files in PCX and TIF formats, some in color
    TIF/PCX, MAC, and GIF. Files can be imported into virtually every
    desktop publishing program. Many subjects, over 11,000 images. Not
    BBS Ready.

    Colossal Cookbook                                   $22.00
    Over 4,000 recipes, far more than "The Joy of Cooking"  Excellent
    cross reference and search. Includes health and nutrition guides,
    ethnic and regional recipes, meal planning, diabetic and low
    cholesterol diets and more. Not BBS Ready.

    Complete Bookshop                                   $22.00
    An entire book shop on CD-ROM! Includes classics, poetry, humor,
    cookbooks, American history and founding documents, novels, short
    stories, home improvement guides, computer instruction guides, and
    lots more!! Not BBS Ready.

    Deathstar Arcade Battles                            $22.00
    Exciting Arcade action games. Space wars, Shoot-em ups, auto
    racing, sports, casino gambling, horse/auto racing and more. The
    fast action will entertain you for years!! Not BBS Ready.

    Dictionaries and Languages                          $22.00
    A giant compliation of dictionaries, thesauruses, word processors,
    style- syntax- spelling checkers, glossaries, crossword and
    cryptogram solvers. The top shareware word processors, lessons in
    French, German, Italian, Hebrew, Russian, Czech, Greek, Japanese,
    Spanish, Cantonese and more!

    Education Master                                    $25.00
    Over 1,000 educational programs. Preschool to College level! Home
    schooling and classroom instruction. Files come in both zipped and
    unzipped "Ready to run" formats. Not intended for BBS use.

    Encyclopedia of Sound                               $22.00
    Produced by the Music Factory, this disk contains 250 sound files
    including sound effects, Voices, music clips, and full length
    original music scores which may be used royalty free for a wide
    variety of applications. The files are supplied in Windows' WAV
    format and are Digitally recorded!

   *Games 93                                            $29.00
    6,000 files. 500 meg of the Best in shareware games!! Tetris
    clones, Lotto, Casino, Sports, V.G.A. Arcade, Flight simulators
    and best of all, BBS Ready!!!!!!!!!!!

    GameMaster                                          $25.00
    Over 500 games. Many play directly off the CD-Rom. Sports,
    adventure, cards, arcade, etc. CGA, EGA, VGA. Not intended for BBS
    use.

    Ham Radio 3.0                                       $22.00
    Excellent collection of HAM and SWL programs and data. Includes
    packet radio, satellite communications, frequency lists, equipment
    service, design, mods, logging, news, SSTV, FAX, FCC Regulations,
    exams, plus much more! Not BBS Ready.


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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 1948
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/14/93  4:52a
Subj: CD-WORLD 3                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                             CD-WORLD
 CD-WORLD                    Price list       For on-line orders call
 2650 Wedgefield RD          July  1993       The BBS at 803-481-7149
 Sumter SC 29154                              Voice 803-481-2276
                                              FIDO 1:3647/2

    House of Games                                      $29.00
    EGA, VGA, and SVGA Games. Play the Best of Shareware games off The
    CD. Not BBS Ready!!

   *MegaRom-2                                           $19.00
    650 megs-over 7000 files. Contains sound files, 256 color gifs,
    utilites, Programming, Bibles, True type Fonts, Windows Pro-
    grams, Electronic magazines, Communications, BBS Programs Plus
    much more. BBS Ready!  Quanities limited!!

   *MegaWinOS/2                                         $19.00
    600 plus megs. 4861 files. Filled with windows and OS/2 shareware
    and public domain. Files include sound, utilities, programming,
    plus much more! BBS ready!

  *!Monster Disc Best of 1992                           $39.00
    2 Disk set that has recieved Rave reviews, 1300 meg, Includes
    manual with complete descriptions Jan 1992/ Feb 1993. BBS Ready!

   *Nightowl Ver 8                                      $29.00
    Latest in the Nightowl series. BBS Ready!!!

    Our Solar System                                    $22.00
    Exciting NASA and Observatory photos of the planets, moons,
    comets, earth, and celestial phenomena! Includes star locators,
    planetarium programs, astronomical data, voyage simulators, plus
    much more! Not BBS Ready.

    P.C. Sig Games                                      $25.00
    Games from many catagories. Over 60 for Windows, Fantastic
    interface! BBS Ready!

    P.C. Sig Version 12                                 $29.00
    Latest in a well done shareware series, very nice interface!
    BBS Ready!

  *!Phoenix Version 3                                   $15.00
    No Installation, on line help for every function. BBS Ready!!
    While Quanities last. Limited

   *SDN1 Plus                                           $19.00
    Software Dist Network, Made primarily for BBS operators. Plus
    version includes Deskview Net, Windows Net, and other FIDO
    distribution networks. BBS Ready!!

   !Shareware 93                                        $29.00
    5,000 files, 620 meg. This cd contains mostly 1993 dated files.
    BBS Ready!!!!

    Shareware Extravaganza                              $45.00
    4 Disk set. Excellent collection of Shareware Programs Dated from
    1988 thru 1992. A must for you Shareware collectors!!

    Shareware Overload                                  $22.00
    Over 6100 files, 550 meg. Covers many applications with an
    emphasis on Games and Windows. Other subjects include, Business,
    Clipart, Communications, BBS, Database, Education, Finance, Games,
    Graphics, Religion, Sound and more!!

  *!Shareware Studio Vol 1 1992                         $15.00
    Reworked. Includes new front end and you can now access the Apogee
    games directory. This has always been an excellent Disk and now it
    is just that much better.Includes Windows, Business, Education,
    Graphics, CAD, and BBS utils. Released 10/92. BBS Ready.

   *Simtel 20 April 93                                  $19.00
    This CD is an excellent addition to any BBS or private collection.
    It contains many Programing utils and many of the programs include
    the source code, Usually in C. Also contains great files to
    enhance your Commercial type programs.. BBS Ready!!!!

  *!Software Vault Collection 1                         $15.00
    635 Meg. Over 1,200 files. Librarian let's you search/creates
    files for Sysops. Great Interface. BBS Ready!!!

    TechnoTools                                         $22.00
    A programmers dream disk! Routines, utilities, debuggers,
    troubleshooters, and other tools for C/C++, Dbase, Clipper, Basic,
    Assembly, Al, Unix, Xenix, OS/2, Pascal, Ada, Fortran, Cobol,
    Btrieve, APL, Lisp, Forth, and more! Not BBS Ready.

    Too Many TypeFonts                                  $22.00
    Countless typefonts in all formats. TrueType, Adobe Type,
    Manager(ATM), Adobe Type 1, WFN, First Publisher, Ghostscript, HP
    Laserjet, and Epson dot matrix printer. Also includes type face
    modifiers, Font managers and uploaders, and tons of utilities! Not
    BBS Ready.

   !Windows 1993                                        $29.00
    680 meg. 7000 files. Corel draw, Utilites, Wallpaper, Games,
    Icons, Fonts, Clip art and more! BBS Ready!!

    WindowWare from Chestnut                            $22.00
    This CD is packed with tons of useful programs. TypeFonts, Font
    installers, Games, Home Business, Education, Icons, System
    optimizers and more. BBS Ready
    ==================================================================


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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 1949
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/14/93  4:53a
Subj: CD-WORLD 4                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                             CD-WORLD
 CD-WORLD                    Price list       For on-line orders call
 2650 Wedgefield RD          July  1993       The BBS at 803-481-7149
 Sumter SC 29154                              Voice 803-481-2276
                                              FIDO 1:3647/2

                                Adult

  *!Adult Reference Library                              $25.00
    Excellent CD. Not BBS Ready on the disk but you can download
    ARLibV1.zip from file area 9 and use it on your BBS.

  *!Asian Ladies                                         $40.00
    Premiun quality fantasy pictures of beautiful Oriental Women! 340
    Meg of Asian wonders. BBS Ready!!!

  *!Busty Babes                                         $40.00
    Follow up to Ecstasy 675 meg. Soundblaster Front loader. Enhanced
    Menu System, This is one of the best Adult CD's on the Market.
    Nothing but Rave Reviews and BBS Ready!!

   !Ecstasy From Hot Pics                               $40.00
    Elite adult CD. 560 meg, 2600 SVGA pics. 330 animations Sound. 470
    stories. BBS Ready!!!

   !GBL                                                 $45.00
    Alternative Lifestyles Disc. Features Gay, Lesbian and Bi.

   !Hot Pix 2                                           $40.00
    530 Megs of Adult scans and entertainment. BBS Ready!

   !Hot Pix 3                                           $40.00
    630 megs of top Quality adult. BBS Ready!

    Hot Pix 4                                           $40.00
    Best of the Windy City Scans. BBS Ready!

   !My Private Collection 1                             $40.00
    Adult Gif and DL files. Complete file disc. BBS Ready!!

   !My Private Collection 2                             $40.00
    Second in this Hot series. Complete file descriptions make this cd
    excellent for BBS use!

   !PC-Pix Vol 2                                        $40.00
    630+ Meg  BBS Ready. Hi Res Pics

    PC-Pix Vol 3                                        $40.00
    630+ Meg  BBS Ready. Hi Res Pics!!

    Seventh Heaven Seedy Rom #7 1992                    $40.00
    Megs of Hi Res Pictures. Part of the Seventh Heaven Series
    BBS Ready!!

   !Storm II                                            $30.00
    2nd in The Storm series of Adult CD's. Remastered Classic.
    Has install on the Storm III CD.

   !Storm III                                           $40.00
    Latest in the Storm series. Super VGA. For the ladies
    this disc includes. 112 meg of Male Pics. BBS Ready!!

    Smutware                                            $35.00
    640 meg. 1,000 1024x256 color photos, 2,000 800x600. 100 adult
    animations. BBS Ready!!

    Visual Fantasies                                    $40.00
    Over 2500 Pics. Remastered with compushow on CD.

    Volcano 1024x768x256 Gifs                           $45.00
    Very High Quality selection of 256 color Super VGA images.
    Includes a section of TARGA images.


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1950
  To: MICHAEL MULCAHY                          Date: 07/14/93  3:08p
Subj: Encyclopedia CD's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


MM> I am looking for an Encyclopedia CD collection that my  children
 MM> can utilize as a good reference for school.  I have  heard  that
 MM> there exists a few versions
 MM> on the market today.  Can  anyone  provide  me  info  on  what's
 MM> available on th emarket.  The pros and cons to  utilizing  a  CD
 MM> version compared to that of hard copy etc.


  I carry the 1992 21 volume Grolier"Academic America Encyclopedia"
  for $69.  This is the best encyclopedia I have seen.  It includes
  full text on 33,000 articles as well as  comprehensive  index  of
  all titles, words, pictures and maps.   In  addition,  there  are
  thousands of pictures, hundreds of sounds, and over 50  digitized
  video clips including NASA  missions,  major  sports  events  and
  famous people in history with motion video.  You can hear  famous
  speeches, musical compositions, animal sounds and bird calls with
  high-quality audio.  (Speaking of comparing a cd to  hard  copies
  of encyclopedias, the sound/music is  not  possible  with  them.)
  Since the quality and speed of indexing is so much more  advanced
  with a cd version of an  encyclopedia,  it  makes  research  much
  easier and more fun to use the cd.  Generating reports from paper
  requires a  great  deal  more  time  and  effort  than   pressing
  print-screen!

  Call 205-824-2552 to order.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1951
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 07/14/93 10:45p
Subj: MUST SACRIFICE... YOU WIN               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 I must make a sacrifice to pay for some incoming product  so  I'm
  going to offer a $80 discount off the 4 remaining Quad setups  of
  Hitachi 3500 cd rom drives and a Cream of the Crop  shareware  cd
  that I have in stock.  If you act fast, for $600 +  $25  shipping
  and c.o.d. charges you can get:

  4 used Hitachi 3500 internal cd rom drives.
  Interface card
  4 bay external case
  110/220w power supply.
  External cable
  Caddies, Screws, power splitters, drivers...
  30 day warranty
  "Cream of the Crop"  Shareware cd !!
  Song and dance.

  Call 205-824-2552

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1952
  To: CAM LERCH                                Date: 07/15/93  9:44a
Subj: Old 600ms CD-ROM drives                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


CL> Does anybody have some old 600ms  drives?  Maybe  older??  I  am
 CL> looking for  the  cheapest  you  can  give  me..  maybe  $175.00
 CL> Canadian (With controller card!!) or without  but  I  need  them
 CL> soon.. I would like a pretty cheap one but I am reasonable..  So
 CL> if you got those old drives (Internal  or  external)  just  drop
 CL> me a note please!!!! soon!!! Thanks for your time!

  I have about 30 of them for $130 each.   They  are  used  Hitachi
  3500 internals.  The only controller cards I  have  are  new  and
  cost $60... but they will run up to 4 of these drives, making the
  average cost $145 per drive.  I have 4 setups  of 4  drives  with
  case and power supply with external  cable  in  stock  for  $600.
  Call 205-824-2552

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 1953
  To: RUSSELL NABER                            Date: 07/15/93 10:00a
Subj: Questions                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


RN> I just got hooked into this echo and I have a  few  questions  I
 RN> hope somebody can help me with.
 RN>
 RN>
 RN> 1.) I have a Adaptec 1742b SCSI controller,  will  most  CD  ROM
 RN> drives work ok with this?  If  so  where  can  I  get  either  a
 RN> multiple scsi ribbon that has at least 5 pin connectors  on  it,
 RN> or where can I get the external type pin connector

  Most cd rom drives use a propitiatory card.  SCSI cd  drives  are
  usually more expensive... but I do have the Toshiba 3101 (Made by
  Toshiba America not Japan.  The  Japanese  ones  only  have  34 k
  buffer and aren't as good is other ways.)  for $249.   These  are
  new   (350   ms   access   time)   with   90    days    warranty.


 RN> 2.) Which CD-ROM drive is the best in the terms  of  price/speed
 RN> for BBS use.

  For a bbs you want as many drives as possible  since  sitting  up
  all night and changing out disc for your users is not  practical.
  I have use Hitachi internal (model 3500) drives  for  $130  each.
  The controller cards are new and cost $60.  You can daisy chain 4
  of these drives on a single controller card, making  the  average
  cost $145 per unit.  I also have 4 bay external cases  and  power
  supplies with external cable.  I am offering this setup for  $600
  for the last 4 setups I have in stock.


 RN> 5.) Also how are the directory's on  CD-ROMS  setup.  How  do  I
 RN> intergrate them with files.bbs type files for my  BBS  software.

  What BBS software are you running?  I have written  utilities  to
  automatically and instantly set up my  cd  "Cream  of  the  Crop"
  shareware cd  with  Maximus,  Spitfire,  Ra,  Qbbs  and  PCBoard.

  In order to set up a cd so that users can access the files from a
  bbs the Sysop usually  must  do  the  following  steps  MANUALLY:

  1.  Type in the file paths to the Files.bbs  (usually 50 +  areas
  on most cd's... Aprox. 1 hr.)

  2.  Type in the description for the files in each  area. (  Aprox
  30 min.)

  3.  Type in the security level that callers must have  to  access
  the  cd  AND  set  various  other  flags.  (   Aprox   30   min )

  4.  Copy the files.bbs to the hard drive AND increment  the  file
  names... i.e.  Files.1  Files.2  Files.3   etc... (  Aprox 1  hr.
  AND easy to get confused and make mistakes.)

  5.  With many bbs's you next have to change to the  directory  on
  your hard drive where you placed the  Files.<x>   and  then  edit
  EACH and EVERY listing and in some cases remove the time and date
  column.  ( Aprox. 1 DAY ! )

  6.  Finally you have to HOPE that all this was done  without  any
  mistakes because when I log on your bbs and see a file I want and
  it doesn't come I'll  leave  you a  message  saying  "What's  the
  problem with my security...  remember I  sent  you  $5?"   <grin>


  Call   205-824-2552   and   let   me   know   what   you    want.

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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 1954
  To: DUNCAN MARKLEY                           Date: 07/10/93 10:38a
Subj: MAC CDs FOR $ALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CM > AMUG BBS in a BOX VII  -  $40
CM > GIGA-ROM V.4  -  $50

 DM> Craig, do these have the file listings on them in some sort of format so
 DM> they can be used on a PC based system?  (Some of us out here support the
 DM> Mac with DOS machines!)  Thanks

      Hi Duncan.....I think you're out of luck here friend. You can't use HFS
format CD's in a PC drive. That's only the beginning of the problems. There is
an ISO9660 format Mac files disk out but it has serious problems and has been
deemed unusable by several sysops I know supporting Mac's with PC based systems
(it's put out by some folks in Florida I believe...don't know the name). Lots
of folks do support Macs with PC based machines. If you can be patient a little
longer I'm working on something......
    DCK


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From: JASON BURKHART                         Number: 1955
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  7:46p
Subj: Texel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anybody got a Texel CD-ROM with 265ms with cables and 16 bit interface???? Must
beat $499.00. Thanx
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 1956
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/13/93  3:29a
Subj: Night Owls 9.0                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I need Night Owls 9.0 ASAP!!!

Please send all bids and info (condition, price, warranty, ect.) to me
via this system or call my bbs directly at [phone]


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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 1957
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 07/13/93  5:32p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 JJ> 1 Mitsumi drive 150ms 150kb transfer

I highly douby that it is 150ms!

CJK

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 1958
  To: CAM LERCH                                Date: 07/13/93  5:33p
Subj: Old 600ms CD-ROM drives                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CL> Does anybody have some old 600ms drives? Maybe older??
 CL> I am looking for the cheapest you can give me.. maybe
 CL> $175.00 Canadian (With controler card!!) or without

Hey! I live in Canada, so this should be an almost done deal, I have 2
mitsumi's for sale, controller cards for both, I will take $375 for both of
them or $190obo individualy.

If you can, lets take this either netmail, my address is 1:3402/22. Or VOICE
[phone] or send it to me FAX [phone].

CJK

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From: TOM DAHLIN                             Number: 1959
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/13/93 10:57a
Subj: Busty Babes Rel 3.                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Hello, Lee, I was just wondering if the new release of BB is
basically the same as the first release? I already have Rel # 1
and don't want to buy another one if it is the same. I believe
you are removing the GIF's that were not suppposed to be there
in the first place, right?
    Thanks  Tom

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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 1960
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  5:41p
Subj: So Much Shareware 3!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: [phone]
        $35.00         International 314-521-4862     $35.00

************* So Much Shareware 3.0 IN STOCK AND SHIPPING *************

Don't be the last on your block to get So Much Shareware 3.0! If you
snooze you lose in the "who's got the newest shareware on their BBS"
business nowadays... so call The MARKetplace now and reserve your copy...
You'll have your copy of the MOST popular shareware disk in the
world before ANYONE in your area!

If you don't buy from The MARKetplace... you'll be waiting tooooooo
long to get your SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3.0!

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From: NORM ROWE                              Number: 1961
  To: TOM SIMPSON                              Date: 07/14/93  9:12p
Subj: Cd Rom "bible Library"                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TS+Am looking for a CD ROM titled "Bible Library".  Would like one that was
  +picked up in bundle at low price as I have limited resources.  Can be
reached

Mike Shannon in his message titled "CAN U READ THIS?" is offering that
one for $31 which is probably about as good as you'll find unless
there's someone around who doesn't want theirs anymore and will sell
it to you for less than that.  Even with limited resources, $31 is a
pretty good deal for what all is available in that package.  (I have
it and use it and am not about to part with my copy right now.)

Norm
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1962
  To: KEVIN WAKEFIELD                          Date: 07/12/93 10:46a
Subj: Wicked cd                               Refer: NONE
Read: 12/15/93  6:56p                       Private: No

KW>Has anyone here seen the adult CD "Wicked" supposedly starring
  >Terri Weigel?  Just wondering what format the disc is, i.e., is
  >it images (GIF, photo CD) or animations?

Although I have not seen it yet, it is a Photo CD with Terri as the
host.

                                                        Jim...
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 1963
  To: MICHAEL KANKO                            Date: 07/12/93 10:54a
Subj: N OWL                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MK>Hi, does anyone here know about how much the new Night Owl 9 is?

Anywhere from $29 to $49, depending on who you ask! ;)  Computer Works
will match all advertised prices.  Be sure to quote your source.

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 1964
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  4:32a
Subj: NIght Owl 9.0                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can anyone beat the 29.00 for night owl 9.0?? if so give me the # to order.


 Jesse

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 1965
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 07/13/93 10:58p
Subj: So Much Shareware 3 Revie               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

               sssss  mmmmmmm  mmmmm        //  333333
               sssss  mmmmmmm  mmmmm        /   3333333
               ss     mm m mm  mm          //        33
               ss     mm m mm  mm          /         33
               sssss  mm m mm  mmmmm      //       3333
                  ss  mm m mm     mm      /        3333
                  ss  mm m mm     mm     //          33
               sssss  mm   mm  mmmmm     /           33
               sssss  mm   mm  mmmmm    //      3333333
                                                333333
                 NEW CD REVIEW:

  Name: So Much Shareware 3

  Publisher: Power User Software


  "Distributed By":
            SPYR Incorporated
           Voice: 814-864-4666
            Fax: [phone]
            BBS: 814-864-1230

  Price: Retails at $69.oo

  When: This just came out a few days ago, I pre-ordered mine and got it
        on Saturday.


  FREQ  "SMS3.ZIP" from 1:2601/566 (dual 16.8) for complete filelist.


  What: Here's the stats that I've found:

  quoted from back cover):

   Contains 650 (Wrong, more like 680) MEGABYTES of the most exciting
shareware programs available anywhere - AT ANY PRICE.

   "Fantastic VGA arcade games, home & hobby, graphics, clip art, Sound
files, financial programs, OS/2, Windows applications, Fonts & more!
Really something for everyone."

   "Our menu systen us both easy for the computer novice yet advanced
enough for the POWER USER.  Featuring extensive online help, mouse
support, Soundblaster support, command-line and run-time toggles,
filelist printing, file tagging.  Includes an on-line CDrom door and
much more!"

   "No knowledge of file compression or ZIP files is necessary!"

   "BBS ready with standard file lists inall directories."


 Here's what I think (MY opinions of) this disk:

                ** NO GIFS or JPEG Format Images **
(Why some manufacturers still put space-hogging images on their
shareware disks is beyone me, they should put actual shareware PROGRAMS
on Shareware cds and maybe make a whole seprate GIFS cd if they Want)


                  *********** BBS READY ***********
 This CD installed itself FOR me into my existing "Mike Robinson's SFrom
or EZROM" door.  Letting the computer operate by itself for a minute
while installing is much better than spending 30min to 2 hours
installing a new disk, BELIEVE me, I've spent that much time installing
disks before.  BTW if you have a bbs but dont use SFrom or EZrom yet,
it'll install the CD-Rom door also!


    As you can see, this is the easiest to use/setup and best Shareware
cd out there.  But see for yourself,


   Ask for So Much Shareware 3 wherever you buy quality CDrom disks!


                        ...tim klan

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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 1966
  To: TONY MACE                                Date: 07/13/93  7:59p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM DRIVE WANTED                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Tony Mace to All <=-

 TM> Am looking for a Tandy CDR-1000.  If you have one, please leave
 TM> message here  or call me 308-487-5378 after 3pm mtn time.
 TM> This drive is wanted ASAP!
 TM> Tony

        How much? I have one I might be willing to sell.
                                                                Edward


... "Hillary, where's my college yearbook, I need more staff"
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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 1967
  To: DENNIS STERNER                           Date: 07/13/93  7:59p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DS> I have the following CD-ROM discs for sale:
 DS> 1.  Compton's Family Encyclopedia - $30
 DS> Shipping is additional.  Leave message here or call 717-637-2972.

        I'm intrested in Compton's. My BBS number is 304-768-3682. How
 much would it costs for overnight shipping COD?
                                                        Edward

... Sacrifice, YES - Socialism, NO
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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 1968
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/13/93  7:59p
Subj: Re: SHERLOCK HOLMES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Eric Bravick to Sam Figueroa <=-
 EB> It needs a 350 ms or better to look and sound smooth.

        I have a demo of it that keeps crashing. My CDROM drive is
 800ms and I thought that was probably the cause.
                                                                        Edward


... First, it was Hillary.  Then Gennifer.  Now, it's us!
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From: BENJAMIN KEEN                          Number: 1969
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/13/93 10:27p
Subj: $$$                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I saw the message exchang between you and your 'customer', and your REAL
customers, and to keep it short, I have to 'ditto' everything Mark Smitka
said in his letter.
BTW, My address is 1528 Autumn Rd
                   Charleston, WV 25314-2306
                   304/343-4447, if you would send me a catalog.
BBTW, if this summer proves to be as lucrative as I expect, I hope to be
getting a drive in the fall and I would certainly consider your company as
my first choice. (Providing, of course, that you have Mac stuff)

-Ben


 This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated.

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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1970
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 07/14/93  9:28a
Subj: Mitsumi drivers needed                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Todd,
 would version 2.1b help you out any? I have it for my internal Mit's
It seemed to load fine for me, I have 3 of them daisy chained and 3 more
externals..did not have any DMA or IRQ conflicts .....

If so let me know and I will zip it for you and send it your way....

see ya bubba
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 1971
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/14/93  9:38a
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

groupware has internal mitsumi's for $175.00 new. complete.....
give em a call
groupware
(206)-472-1400

bubba
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 1972
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  9:29p
Subj: C/C++ CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its C/C++ CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
987 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:[phone], EMail:[e-mail]
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From: BOB KELLY                              Number: 1973
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/13/93  6:30a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>MS>MS> I have a copy of The 7th Guest I would like to trade for other CD's.
MS>I
MS>MS>MS> willconsider all trades. What have you got???

MS> BK> Phoenix 3.0 Shareware NightOwl Business Applications Disk
MS> BK> MicroSoft Small Business Consultant

MS>Sorry Bob, I have both of these.

Howzabout trade for cash? How much would you want?

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From: BOB KELLY                              Number: 1974
  To: TONY MASSEY                              Date: 07/13/93  6:31a
Subj: Here We Are                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TM>BK>SQ>    Cheers BBS in beautiful Cambridge, Ontario, Canada is
TM>BK>SQ>    proud to be carrying this echo !!

TM>BK>And I'm so proud you told us about it...

TM>And I'm so proud that you're so proud that Cheers told us
TM>about it!!!

My pleasure! Anyone else out there proud about this?

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1975
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/15/93  2:31p
Subj: Re: nightowl 9                          Refer: 5372
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> First of all, you guys are home based businesses while we are full co
-> we pay rent, tax ect. We also stock everything we sell, I know for su
-> several of you doing this business as a second income. Can you host a
-> customer in place of your business?  So, do you think it is fair to c
-> with full commercial businesses?. Plus, we do have good prices with g
-> service. Regards

Who cares?  Stay on topic.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1976
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/15/93  2:22p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: 5377
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> the thread.  Since you are not the moderator, and I was participating
-> echo according to the rules that state I may warn others not to get r
-> by Terry Woodward, your post means nothing to me or the thread about
-> Woodward ripping me off.

That rule is news to me...

tim
moderator

-> By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off?

p.s.  Look up the word "libel".
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 1977
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 07/15/93  2:39p
Subj: NIGHTOWL 9                              Refer: 5335
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No

-> want in the CDROM_SALE echo.  (ROTFLMAO)  Have all the fun you can st
-> with the bickering, whining, flaming, bitching, tattletelling, name

It keeps us on our toes... The only thing worse than flames are
uploaded CONFIG.SYSes, so it could be worse.

-> calling, and other related BS.  I am used to it, I have been doing it
-> for 8 years. And FYI, I have damned sure pulled feeds, several, and a

But have you been in CDs longer than the dude who did the Magnum discs?
(G&D&RLH).. ;)

tim
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From: STEVE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1978
  To: HENRY ARIAS                              Date: 07/13/93 10:35p
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'll offer $25 for the ART CD if you still have it.

(Sounds interesting).

steve.
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From: STEVE PHILLIPS                         Number: 1979
  To: HENRY ARIAS                              Date: 07/13/93 10:40p
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

One last question - are the graphics 640x480? I'd be rather disappointed
if most of the pictures were only 320x200, etc. If they are, and you still
have the disk, I'll offer $25 for it. Sounds interesting.

steve.
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From: CHRIS STONER                           Number: 1980
  To: ALL CD ROM TITLE DEALERS                 Date: 07/14/93  7:32p
Subj: cd rom titles                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

anyone looking for new customers please drop me a cat. of your products.

chris stoner
12817 E. 47th st. # 27 hill
Independence, mo. 64055

 thanks
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From: CRAIG MOSER                            Number: 1981
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/12/93  8:37p
Subj: Busty Babes Ships Next Week             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LN> and once you test drive "Busty"--Your gonna be hooked !

When are we gonna see an HFS version of BB's? These ISO vers just dont cut it!


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From: DOUG BURDEN                            Number: 1982
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/13/93  5:28p
Subj: ANNOUNCEMENT                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send me some dealers info
WOODLAND CRAFTS
BOX 1163
ANGUS, ONT
LOM 1BO

Phone: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Thanks
Doug Burden
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From: DOUG BURDEN                            Number: 1983
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/13/93  5:49p
Subj: ADULT CD'S                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone have any information on the following titles?

Best of Vivid
Vivid I
Vivid II
Kamasutra
101 Sex positions vol I
101 Sex positions vol II

are these any good?
who makes them?

        Thanks
Doug....
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1984
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/13/93  6:27p
Subj: Cd drives, software, &c.                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CB>27 Jun 93 06:41, Tim Helton wrote to Patrick Rosenheim:

CB> TH> YOUR LINE LENGTH IS TOO LONG.

CB>It's more likely that you are not placing hard carriage returns at th
CB>end of each lines (or your editor, etc. is taking them out).

Carlos, Thanks! I've tried a few different methods, and I think I've finally
settled on a solution. We'll see how it goes in the next few weeks.

TTYL,

Pat


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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1985
  To: ALLAN KENNEDY                            Date: 07/13/93  6:27p
Subj: Cd drives, software, &c.                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AK>PATRICK  I wish you could see the way your add spreads across and wra I'm
trying a *lot* of different options, Allan. Hopefully, ONE of them will work!
Thanks, Pat

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1986
  To: LEWIS BULLARD                            Date: 07/13/93  6:27p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LB>Pat, I would sure like to read your ads, but the formatting just give
LB>me the
LB>shivers! Please try to straighten this out, so I can comfortably read
LB>them.
LB>It's gotten to the point that I just look at the ad and click forward
LB>This
LB>is a sincere message, and not meant as any kind of flame.

I think you were responding to an ad posted in June, Lewis. The July postings
*should* improve (I hope!)....... BTW, I quoted *your* message verbatim. Was it
formatted that way? The reason I ask is, I *only* have formatting problems on
FIDO, all other NETS carry the messages exactly as posted. Regards, Pat

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1987
  To: STEVE STACY                              Date: 07/13/93  6:27p
Subj: Cde = cd's, educational                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SS>Patrick,  Glad to see that your posts are aligning correctly.  Lookin
SS>forward to your post on Texel bundels.

YES!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll get one out to you right away (maybe even in this packet).

Pat

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1988
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/13/93  6:27p
Subj: Let me try again.....                   Refer: NONE
Read: 07/16/93  6:25a                       Private: No

TH>Good job, Patrick... I can read your ads!  ;)

TH>tim
TH>moderator

Tim,

I am PSYCHED!

Now, let me post a couple hundred right away......

;-)

Pat
moderated



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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 1989
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/14/93  1:53a
Subj: Cd drives, kits, bundles                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600 Mastercard &
Visa accepted. Posted on 07/14/93, @ 01:37.

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE

 MITSUMICDD CDD - Mitsumi CD-ROM drive                 189.00
 PHILIPSINT CDD - Philips internal CD-ROM drive        197.00
 CDDDRM600A CDD - Pioneer DRM-600A 6-disk changer      875.00
 CDDDRM604X CDD - Pioneer DRM-604X 6-disk changer     1304.00
 DM3024     CDD - Texel DM3024 internal CD-ROM drive   385.00
 DM5024     CDD - Texel DM5024 CD-ROM drive ext.       475.00
 CDDXM3401B CDD - Toshiba XM3401B internal drive       468.00
 3024PAS16  CDK - Texel DM3024 & PAS-16 sound card     557.00
 DM3024BB   CDK - Texel DM3024 int. bus. bundle        665.00
 DM3024MMB2 CDK - Texel DM3024 int. M/M bundle         831.00
 DM3024EB   CDK - Texel DM3024 internal ed. bundle     593.00
 DM3024/CB2 CDK - Texel DM3024 internal home bundle    558.00
 5024PAS16  CDK - Texel DM5024 & PAS-16 sound card     677.00
 5024T348   CDK - Texel DM5024 & T-348 par. SCSI       608.00
 5024T130   CDK - Texel DM5024 Cd-ROM & T-130 SCSI     536.00
 DM5024BB   CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. bus. bundle        747.00
 DM5024EB   CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. ed. bundle         712.00
 DM5024/CB2 CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. home bundle        653.00
 DM5024MMB2 CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. M/M bundle         938.00
 DM3024T130 CDK - Texel int. DM3024 & T130 SCSI        461.00

Prices & spec's subject to change without notice. Best time to call: 7-10 AM &
9-12 PM Mon - Fri, all day Sat & Sun (EASTERN)

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From: DAN HATTERICK                          Number: 1990
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 07/13/93  2:52a
Subj: 30 CD DRIVES $130 EACH                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does a controller card come with a drive at 130$.Your saying that
If I bought 2 I could plug them into one card?

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 1991
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/13/93  4:09p
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello There Mike!

In a message to All <07/12/93> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS>  ALL READERS:  Please let me know if you can read this OK.  Thanks
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^
You were kidding of course.??? ( I hope )

John

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1992
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/13/93 10:22p
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Ismail!

Tuesday July 13 1993, Ismail Arslangiray writes to Doug Carpenter:

 IA> First of all, you guys are home based businesses while we are full
 IA> commercial, we pay rent, tax ect. We also stock everything we sell, I know
 IA> for sure that, several of you doing this business as a second income. Can
 IA> you host any of your customer in place of your business?  So, do you think
 IA> it is fair to compare you with full commercial businesses?. Plus, we do
 IA> have good prices with good service.

Oh, give it a rest.  Being a home-based business is not a dirty word.  I am
proud to be an American, as that allows me to HAVE a home-based business.  In
what other country would you be so free to generate extra income to provide
better for your family?  And I doubt that any of my customers in this echo
really care about being hosted in my place of business.  They're here to get a
fair deal on quality discs... not sit around groping the one-eyed trouser trout
(which must be what goes on at your store, now that your wife threw your ass
out).  ;-)


... Beavis and Butt-Head in '96!

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From: JASON BUCHANON                         Number: 1993
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/13/93 10:31p
Subj: Night Owls 9                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Do you have the Nightowls #9 in stock?  What does the owl look like on the
cover of this one?  seems the maker of Nightowls changes the owl  every new
relese.

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 1994
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/13/93 10:57p
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Ismail!

Tuesday July 13 1993, Ismail Arslangiray writes to Doug Carpenter:

 IA> First of all, you guys are home based businesses while we are full
 IA> commercial, we pay rent, tax ect. We also stock everything we sell, I know
 IA> for sure that, several of you doing this business as a second income. Can
 IA> you host any of your customer in place of your business?  So, do you think
 IA> it is fair to compare you with full commercial businesses?. Plus, we do
 IA> have good prices with good service.

Oh, give it a rest.  Being a home-based business is not a dirty word.  I am
proud to be an American, as that allows me to HAVE a home-based business.  In
what other country would you be so free to generate extra income to provide
better for your family?  And I doubt that any of my customers in this echo
really care about being hosted in my place of business.  They're here to get a
fair deal on quality discs... not sit around groping the one-eyed trouser trout
(which must be what goes on at your store, now that your wife threw your ass
out).  ;-)


... Beavis and Butt-Head in '96!

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1995
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/14/93  8:08a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: 07/16/93  6:27a                       Private: No

 -> This is a public warning to anyone planning on trading/buying discs f
 -> Woodward.  I shipped a disc to Terry, on the condition he would cross
 TH> And this is a public warning for you to stop whining.  EOT.

I posted a public statement, once, that I had been defrauded by Terry Woodward.
  That has been allowed in the past, and I followed suit.  I don't understand
your statement about whining.  Whining is what Terry did when he made the
statement that the disc I mailed him was not what he expected, and about how
hard his life was since he also had to help a disabled individual set up his
computer, instead of fulfilling previous obligations.  He tried to steal from
me, and I prevented it, and hopefully protected others from his misdeeds.  I
have traded with many people in the past, and he is the first to try and give
me the shaft. And as you and Terry's friends so love to say, EOT.

 * MKRead v1.01 * 'i' before 'e', except in Budweiser


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 1996
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/14/93  8:16a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TW> NOW it's the end of the thread. But I'll just bet you can't let it
 TW> go...

Fraud, thief, liar.  Choose your favorite.  All apply in your case.  You lied
to me, you tried to steal from me, and then you defrauded me by failing to
complete the trade.  If you were not guilty, you would have ignored my posts.
Since you feel the need to prolong this, you must have a feeling of guilt for
you actions.  Mkae good on the transaction and send my disc.  That is all I
have wanted from the start.  And you are right about one thing.  I will never
forget someone who tries to steal from me.  If all I have said about you is
false, prove it and send my disc.  I will return yours to you.  Remember, I
completed the trade like I said.  You did'nt.  Do it now and prove your good
name.

 * MKRead v1.01 * BEWARE - Tagline Thief in this echo


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 1997
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/14/93  7:14a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The "test" was perfect! I wonder if it's my offline reader doing this?  I'll
check into that - maybe the trouble's on *MY* end.
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 1998
  To: KEITH HERALD                             Date: 07/14/93  8:52a
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-sale or trad               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KH>KH>> SS> I have STORM II adult CD-ROM for sale or trade, I would prefer

KH>KH>>        I have the Stareware CD that I will trade you for your STORM II.

KH>        I am still interested. Let me know.

KH>Keith Herald

        Keith,  If you still have this CD and would like to trade, I am
        agreeable.   Let me know.   Shane Snyder
                                    286 Main St.  Apt #3
                                    Greenville,  PA  16125
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From: CLARK PASCHALL                         Number: 1999
  To: ED WILKINS                               Date: 07/14/93  7:16p
Subj: Re: Unix clone...pd                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

This is a second post, I was looking through the latest Nuts&Volts today
and saw where you can get the above mentioned files on CD for $49.95.
The # is 707-769-1648, Just Computers!, P.O. Box 751414, Petaluma, CA
94975-1414.

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From: JD BROWN                               Number: 2000
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/13/93  9:05p
Subj: Walnut Creek CD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anyone have the new Walnut Creek OS/2 CDROM, June 1993, available?
I would rather buy from a dealer, (keep you in business) than direct.

___
 X KWQ/2 1.2a X First, you put the lawyers up against a wall. . .

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From: LEN BUSSEY                             Number: 2001
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/14/93  3:15a
Subj: Cd Swap                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the following CD's I'd like to swap for shareware CDs and/or
adult CD's.

Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
The Secret of Monkey Island
Loom

Call me at 615-659-9216 voice or
           615-659-6470 FIDO node 3622/10 or 2010 BBS

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2002
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/14/93 10:29p
Subj: weekly cdrom specials                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** PCJ Computing WEEKLY SPECIALS *** MUST BE ORDERED BY JULY 17 ***
*** Orders Only 800-547-7817 / Inquiries (24 Hours) 615-339-0235 ***

Family Doctor...................21.95 Time Almanac 1990........11.95
World Fact Book.................14.95 So Much Shareware........14.95
Grolier's Encyclopedia v5 (DOS).31.95 Game Pack 2 (STW)........16.95
Toolworks Reference Library.....15.95 Hot Pix v4...............19.95
Shareware Explosion (all 1991)..16.95 PC Sig v11...............21.95
After Dark trilogy (Rimfire)....34.95 Electronic Home Library..18.95
Corel v3.0 - 3 1-/2 Disc........61.95 Shareware Studio 2.......19.95

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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 2003
  To: KEVIN LAM                                Date: 07/15/93  1:41a
Subj: To Canada                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> What if I'm not a sysop, and want 3-day shipping?  How much will it c
->
-> (To Canada, remember)

   Hi Kevin,
   CD-WORLD ships to Canada Air Mail for $4.00. This will cover up to 5
cd's. If you haven't already then Freq CD-WORLD.zip from 1:3647/2 or
call my BBS at 803-481-7149 and log on as Guest. PW Guest... Running at
14,400 the file takes about 1 min to download....

   Have a good one.
   David McSpadden CD-WORLD "Home Of Low Prices"


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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 2004
  To: BOB CENTERBAR                            Date: 07/15/93  1:49a
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Is there an adult CD, R Rated, with nude and semi-nude images that I
-> use without any worry.  Some told me that the Giffy Girls CD came wit
-> release, any truth to that one?

 Hi Bob,
 Sounds like Digital Dreams will fit the bill for you. It is an R rated
cd from Ero Tek. Claims original scans so that should take care of your
Court worries.... CD-WORLD price $29.00. Call me at 803-481-2276 to
place an order. You can call my BBS at 803-481-7149 and log on as Guest
PW Guest to download CD-WORLD.zip for a listing of all the titles I
carry with descriptions of each.....

 Have a good one
 David McSpadden CD-WORLD "Home Of Low Prices"


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From: KEVIN PAUSCHE                          Number: 2005
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/14/93  2:19p
Subj: Re: Old 600ms CD-ROM drives             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CK>  CL> Does anybody have some old 600ms drives? Maybe older??
CK>  CL> I am looking for the cheapest you can give me.. maybe
CK>  CL> $175.00 Canadian (With controler card!!) or without
CK>
CK> Hey! I live in Canada, so this should be an almost done deal, I have 2
CK> mitsumi's for sale, controller cards for both, I will take $375 for both of
CK> them or $190obo individualy.
CK>

$190 for a used 600 ms?  New mitsumis can be purchased for about $300 here..
And they're 350 ms and brand new

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From: JASON BURKHART                         Number: 2006
  To: HOWARD ABRAHAM                           Date: 07/14/93 10:50p
Subj: sierra                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

How bout Space Quest 5???
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From: JASON BURKHART                         Number: 2007
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/14/93 10:57p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Yo can I get a catalog from ya??
1204 East Taylor
1204 east Taylor
Benton Il. 62812
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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 2008
  To: BOB KELLY                                Date: 07/15/93  5:11a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Jul 13 06:30>, Bob Kelly of 1:275/16 writes:

MS>MS>MS> I have a copy of The 7th Guest I would like to trade for other CD's.
MS>I
MS>MS>MS> willconsider all trades. What have you got???

MS> BK> Phoenix 3.0 Shareware NightOwl Business Applications Disk
MS> BK> MicroSoft Small Business Consultant

MS>Sorry Bob, I have both of these.

 BK> Howzabout trade for cash? How much would you want?

Lets see.... I paid $55.00 for it. 1/2 price would be $27.50 add in the
shipping to VA. and we are looking at $31.00 delivered.

Michael

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From: BILL JONES                             Number: 2009
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/14/93  6:53p
Subj: Re: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Prints perfect on my monitor Mike.
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From: BOB SPILLERS                           Number: 2010
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/14/93  7:41p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE # PO BOX 8160 # YAKIMA WA 98908 # 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
MS> VISA # MC # AMEX # DISCOVER # SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs # 509-457-2966 (FAX)

MS>---
MS> # SLMR 2.1a # My computer's down. Can someone send it flowers?

MS>--- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
MS> * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR
(1:3407/10


Please send me a copy of your catalog.
                                      Bob Spillers
                                      2201 Lithia Rd.
                                      Valrico FL   33594

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From: JIM REED                               Number: 2011
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/14/93  9:57p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DR>Hello Michael!

DR>Terry is a VERY respected man in this echo, and it'll take a lot more
   than the likes of you to change that.

DR>Terry is honest enough that I send discs to him BEFORE being paid.

MS>I have dealt with him several times, both from the
   sending AND receiving end, and I've found him to be very polite and
   honest in his dealings with me.


And this is a public warning for you to stop whining.
tim
moderator


DR>Welcome to my twit filter, sport.

/JIM/

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From: JIM REED                               Number: 2012
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/14/93 10:01p
Subj: michael benge                           Refer: NONE
Read: 07/16/93  6:30a                       Private: No

Hi Tim;
        I apologize in advance for prolonging this thread but I had to
        get my 2 cents worth in.
                                /JIM/

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From: DAVE KALWISHKY                         Number: 2013
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/14/93 10:52p
Subj: Mitsumi's for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CK> I have one LU002 mitsumi for sale. Internal, comes with card and
  > cable,350ms access time (I think) and 150Kb/sec transfer rate.
  > I am asking $230 for it. I also have a drive that looks EXACTLY

Just thought I'd ket you know that you can purchase the LU005 drivers for
$187...

     -=> Dave <=-     Tue  07-13-1993


 -- SPEED 1.4d #1039: I've seen the evidence.  I want DIFFERENT evidence...


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From: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN                     Number: 2014
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/15/93  1:55a
Subj: Re: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Bob Jackson <=-

 BJ> MS> ****************************************************************
 BJ> MS> ***
 BJ> MS> July 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last up
 BJ> MS> 7/08
 BJ> MS> ****************************************************************

 Hi, Mike. Your post was very legible to me. I would very much appreciate
 if you would put me on mailing list for your CD-ROM catalog.  Many
 thanks.
                              William T. McClain
                              3302 Dorchester St.
                              Tampa, FL 33611

... See ya later.      -Mac-
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From: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN                     Number: 2015
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/15/93  2:12a
Subj: Re: RED HOT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 * Reply to msg originally in CD Rom For Sale

 -=> Quoting Boris Osadciw to All <=-

 BO> $$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

Hi, Boris. If you have a mail out catalog  I would very  much appreciate
one.
                       William T. McClain
                       3302 Dorchester St.
                       Tampa, FL 33611


... See ya later.      -Mac-
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 2016
  To: JOE STEVENS                              Date: 07/14/93 12:54p
Subj: CD ROM...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hi joe.
I have sevaral intenal mitsumi's and found that they are very reliable.
For the price tag of $175.00 complete, you can't beat it....
bubba
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From: RICH JACKSON                           Number: 2017
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/12/93  6:36p
Subj: OUR TRADE                               Refer: NONE
Read: 07/16/93  6:30a                       Private: No

 >-> Please don't give out my phone number on a national echo. It's unlist
 >-> for a real good reason.

 > If you can't back up your opinions with a voice phone number,
 > then don't
 > post.  What are you hiding?

 > tim
 > moderator

Excuse me Tim, 1) this is an INTERNATIONAL Echo... You being the moderator
should know that.   2) I wouldnt want some Jerk off calling me at 2am to tell
me my opinion sucked... My phone number is unlisted for the same reason.

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From: MARK STEIGER                           Number: 2018
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/14/93 12:47p
Subj: interface card                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

I'm looking for a 16 bit sound card that has an external scsi port on it for my
new cd rom drive.  Anyone got any suggestions?  Would like to keep it
semi-resonable


Mark

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From: GARY JOHNSON                           Number: 2019
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/14/93 10:15p
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  │ Hmmm,
  │
  │ I wonder why that is.  I have my right margin set to 75, and it never
  │ changes.  In fact, I think you're the only one in this conference who has
  │ informed me of this.  I wonder if others see it wrapping too.  Let me
  │ post another test listing, and see what happens . . .
  │  CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC Gameroom...................28.00
  │ Please give me your feedback on this also.
  │
Looks good to me. But I've never had a problem with your ads.

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2020
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/14/93  2:35p
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS>  ALL READERS:  Please let me know if you can read this OK.  Thanks

Yup!
PS- how long did you say it usually takes for a CD to get to Canada?

CJK

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2021
  To: DAN HATTERICK                            Date: 07/14/93  2:35p
Subj: CD ROM SPEED VS. BBS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DH> Unless your BBS software copies the
 DH> files to the hard drive before they download which
 DH> mine does.

What are you using? I would like to get a hold of something like this... for
Maximus if possible!

CJK

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From: MIKE TUTHILL                           Number: 2022
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/14/93 10:41p
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

14 Jul 93, Chris Kuefler muttered something about CAN U READ THIS?

Hi Chris,

 MS>> ALL READERS:  Please let me know if you can read this OK.  Thanks

 CK> Yup!
 CK> PS- how long did you say it usually takes for a CD to get to Canada?

My experience is that it takes 2-3 weeks for them to get here to the Fort.  I
think the customs guys are copying all the good stuff off of them before
sending them along:-)  Seriously, they seem to open virtually every CD parcel I
get and I'm not on any security risk lists as far as I know.

Take care.

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From: MIKE TUTHILL                           Number: 2023
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/14/93 10:46p
Subj: CD ROM SPEED VS. BBS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

14 Jul 93, Chris Kuefler muttered something about CD ROM SPEED VS. BBS

Hi Chris,

 DH>> Unless your BBS software copies the
 DH>> files to the hard drive before they download which
 DH>> mine does.

 CK> What are you using? I would like to get a hold of something like this...
 CK> for Maximus if possible!

There's several programs available.  One that come to mind that I believe does
what you want is CDMAXDOR.ZIP.  I think it might be on Bruce's system.  Let me
know if you can't find it and I'll u/l on your board.  By the way, unless you
plan on adding a second node with access to the CD-ROM you really don't need to
copy the files over to your hard drive first as the CD-ROM drive can transfer
data faster than your modem can transmit it.  There may be reasons other than
speed for doing that however.

Take care.

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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 2024
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/13/93 10:21p
Subj: Re: CAN U READ THIS?                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Looks OK to me!...could you please send your latest catalog?
  J. Ellen Cotton
  1105 N.W. 6th Place
  Moore, OK 73160
      Thanks!

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From: RED KENNEDY                            Number: 2025
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/14/93 10:21a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > TO ALL READERS . . . The following is a section of my
 > ad.  Please reply
It isn't wrapping here Mike

 > back as to whether or not it is legible:

 > Please give me your feedback on this also.

It is comming accross in two nice neet columns

..Red..

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From: JOHN FIKET                             Number: 2026
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/14/93 10:22a
Subj: Re: Problems...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* Replying to a message originally to Michael Kelly on 05-Jul-93

BT> First of all, EXCUSE me for not having the language skills that you deem
BT> so important. I wasn't as fortunate as others, being able to attend
BT> school. I had to drop out to make a living.

    Please stop whining. This is not a self-help echo, it is a CD Buy and Sell
echo. People, including myself, do not particulary care about your problems. I
beleived you mentioned earlier that you were about to strap a discrimination
suit on someone here. As this is VR and not face to face communications, our
opinions are not biased by apearance, etc, but only by the thoughts and ideas
proposed.

BT> As far as my message, if YOU had read the earlier message that i was
BT> replying to. YOU would have known what i am talking about>
BT>
BT> I did not start this coversation, I was just replying. EXCUSE ME!

    Perhaps if you could not take things so personally.

                                                        John Paul Fiket


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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 2027
  To: JERRY CORNELIUS                          Date: 07/13/93  9:25p
Subj: Eh?                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JC> I understood that you cut that fellow from Free Spirit Software off.  I thi
JC> his name was Mike Mann, I still see him at the computer swaps.  Did I
JC> misunderstand your post when you said that you took care of him?

JC> BTW, what's your voice telephone number?

Well, since you're asking questions, I have one:
Did you know that there is a fictional hero with your name in a British
SF&F series by Mike Moorcock? It'd be a great "handle".

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From: WARREN DANIO                           Number: 2028
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/14/93 11:00a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MB > By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me
MB > off?
         Hey KID, why don,t you go in the closet and play
        with your flashlight. More damn Whiners!!!!

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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 2029
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/14/93  5:52p
Subj: .\\                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

               *****  Quoting Michellea Sorensen to All  *****


 MS> .\\ichellea

Looks like the .\\ proliferation has begun!  <g>  Thought you'd be interested!
Best Regards.

,\\ark




... I am Clinton of Borg: resistance is taxable!
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From: MIKE JORDAN                            Number: 2030
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/13/93  6:23p
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Night Owl 9 is a 670mb CD with all 1993 file dates,
 > and files grouped into 60 file areas.  Very little to no duplication to
 > previous Night Owl releases, and perfect for online use with built-in
 > file listings.
 > For BBS use, I'd rate Night Owl 9, Pier2, and Software
 > Vault 2 as the best I've seen.  Pricing:  Night Owl 9 $37, Pier2 $37,
 > and Software Vault 2 $24.


  Mike, I'm a door author with 5 doors out and a 6th on it's way and I was
wondering if you would be interested in a trade of registrations for my doors
for CDs?  I've already gotten Software Vault 2 (you are right, it's an
excellent CD) and Winbox (great if you want windows files) but I'd be
interested in getting Night Owl 9, Pier2 or any other Shareware type CD like
these.  If you are intersted I'll be glad to send you details on my doors.


Thanks

Mike

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From: BRANDON YOWELL                         Number: 2031
  To: ANYONE OUT THERE...                      Date: 07/14/93  4:55p
Subj: Wanted...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If anyone out there has a PC-Compatible "arbitrary precision arithmetic"
program, a friend of mine is looking for one.
* SPITFIRE v3.3

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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 2032
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/15/93 10:11a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

             Mike shannon spoke these words of wisdom>>>
-> Michael,
->
-> In defense of Terry, I have dealt with him several times, both from t
-> sending AND receiving end, and I've found him to be very polite and
-> honest in his dealings with me.  I honestly don't think Terry was out
-> cheat you Michael, it's just that sometimes there ARE extenuating
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-> circumstances that put a person's commitments on hold.  He told me
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-> about his ill mother also, so he is telling the truth.
->
-> Oh yeah, please don't drag me into this - I have enough trouble of my
-> own.  Just adding my honest opinion about a person I feel has treated
-> very professionally.
->
-> Later,
-> .\\ike

Double standard there mike?


moderator  this will be the last post about this subject <
my apologies.
bubba
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 2033
  To: JESSE SCHMELZER                          Date: 07/15/93 10:04a
Subj: NIght Owl 9.0                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Can anyone beat the 29.00 for night owl 9.0?? if so give me the # to
->

jesse
     call  Groupware, I purchased 2 of them at $25 A PIECE shipped
darn good price ..

GROUPWARE
[phone]

bubba
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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2034
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/15/93 10:46a
Subj: Toshiba CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer.

205-837-5053




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From: RYAN COZZUBBO                          Number: 2035
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/13/93 12:22p
Subj: help                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I was wondering if anyone knew where I can get a cd-rom full of
anime/japanimation. thanks RPC

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From: MICHAEL KANKO                          Number: 2036
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 07/15/93  2:10p
Subj: Well                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL> MK>Hi, does anyone here know about how much the new Night Owl 9 is?
JL>
JL> Anywhere from $29 to $49, depending on who you ask! ;)  Computer Works
JL> will match all advertised prices.  Be sure to quote your source.
JL>
JL>                                                         Jim...
JL> Computer Works
JL> CD-Rom Sales!
JL> [phone] Voice
JL> [phone] BBS
JL>
JL> --- FreeMail 1.08b
JL>  * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
JL>
Well, since the lowest you've come across is $29 then is that a
valid price for me to purchase it at?
Thanks.. Mike

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2037
  To: RON THOMPSON                             Date: 07/14/93  8:04a
Subj: Apple Cd-Rom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RT>   Thanks for the information you gave me. I will definitely check this
RT>out.

No problem. IMHO, one of the best CDrom deals on the market today is the
Apple CD-300. It's double spin, buffered, and true SCSI-2 interfaced.
And it's going for $399 at my local Comp-USA. It keeps up well with my
Nec-84 and costs about half of what the Nec did.

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2038
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/14/93  8:23a
Subj: Benge debacle                           Refer: NONE
Read: 07/16/93  6:33a                       Private: No

Tim,

I want to apologize for the recent mess. It caught me at a bad time.
Overworked, family health problems, etc. It's no excuse but I was
off guard. I will stop any and all discussions of it immediately.

Besides, I've got three models to shoot in the next week and I don't
want to be distracted. <grin>.

Sorry,
Terry

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2039
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/16/93  6:32a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: 5477
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> moderator  this will be the last post about this subject <
-> my apologies.

I hope so, Bubba.

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2040
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/16/93  6:36a
Subj: Benge debacle                           Refer: 5483
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Besides, I've got three models to shoot in the next week and I don't
-> want to be distracted. <grin>.

I heard that!  If you need any on-site help, I volunteer ;).

tim
moderator
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From: THOMAS KINNEN                          Number: 2041
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 07/14/93  8:59p
Subj: Mitsumi drivers needed                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Todd!

In a message to All <07/12/93> Todd Crawford wrote:

TC> @SUBJECT:MITSUMI DRIVERS NEEDED   &  DISK FOR SALE                   N

FREQ MITSUMI.ZIP from 1:371/26 ... it is Version 2.10a that will loadhi
with qemm.

                        Tom

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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 2042
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/15/93  5:23p
Subj: NIGHTOWL 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> First of all, you guys are home based businesses while we are full
-> commercial, we pay rent, tax ect. We also stock everything we sell, I
-> know for sure that, several of you doing this business as a second
-> income. Can you host any of your customer in place of your business?
-> So, do you think it is fair to compare you with full commercial
-> businesses?. Plus, we do have good prices with good service. Regards

Ismail, I don't think the costs you incur running your store front make
a bit of difference. I don't live within driving distance anyway. Those
of us who shop via BBS (or US Mail for that matter) just want our
product delivered to our door quickly and at a good price.

You can look at your store front costs as belonging to your walk in
customers. Those of us on the BBS don't care a bit about your costs but
DO care about your service and prices.

James

BTW, I am not a dealer either with a store or via the mail. I have
bought almost all my software both at home and at work via mail order.
Never once have I wished to be hosted in a place of business (nor have I
requested a cup of coffee to be included in my shipments.)
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From: PATRICK SHEN                           Number: 2043
  To: HERMAN WIGGINS                           Date: 07/14/93 12:39a
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HW>Shareware overload, do it have files.bbs and also what the date on the
HW>files..

Shareware Overload has file list that I believe you can import into your BBS
file listing.  Most of the file dated 1991-1992.  If you want it, I can let
you have it for $18 shipped.  Please send check or Money order to the address
below.  I'll ship the CD-ROM to you ASAP.  Thanks.

Patrick Shen 852 Niagara Ave. San Francisco, CA 94112

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 2044
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/14/93  7:49p
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-SIG #12....................28.00
  >CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC Gameroom...................28.00
MS>Please give me your feedback on this also.

 completely readable.  Even when quoted and moved over 3 spaces, it
still fits snugly

        ...tim klan
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2045
  To: JEFF OLESEN                              Date: 07/15/93  9:31a
Subj: Nasa roms                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> I noticed your message to someone else. Do you have any more of the NASA
>> ROMS available? Can you tell me where I can order new ones from? I have
>> been looking for them (not very hard though) for some time now.

    No, I don't have any more.  The only place I know to get them is off
of the NASA info sight on Internet.

Eric


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2046
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 07/15/93  9:32a
Subj: Re: SHERLOCK HOLMES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> I have a demo of it that keeps crashing. My CDROM drive is
>> 800ms and I thought that was probably the cause.
>> Edward

    800ms!  I bet that's it.  WAY to much info commin' down the pipes
with this CD for an 800ms Drive.

Eric


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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 2047
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/16/93  1:44a
Subj: Re: BRAND NEW CD                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Question, you did not mention anything about MID files?  Or was that because
there aren't any?

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2048
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/15/93  6:03p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> Oh yeah, please don't drag me into this - I have enough trouble of

Generally, I don't comment on something and then ask not to be dragged in, as
commenting in the first place involves you.  But, I will honor your request, as
it was one of the more civil comments I received.

 * MKRead v1.01 * File not found, I'll load something *I* think is interesting


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2049
  To: DICK HUDDLESTON                          Date: 07/15/93  6:38p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Ships Nex               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <07-11-93 15:26> Dick Huddleston wrote:

DH>>  LN> The infamous "Busty Babes" will be back on the market and

DH>>  Would you mind giving it a 'rating' like the movie.....

Busty is a "XXX" all the way :)

DH>> a few of the adult CDs and their ratings (in your opinion)?  I am
DH>> sometimes surprised that 'adult' CDs are the bathing suit shots.

Agreed--I don't mind compiling a list for you ! Give me a day or two, just got
back from 'Vegas and my brains are slot mush :)

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2050
  To: CRAIG MOSER                              Date: 07/15/93  6:41p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Ships Next Week         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <07-12-93 20:37> Craig Moser wrote:

CM>> When are we gonna see an HFS version of BB's? These ISO vers just
CM>> dont cut it!

Not to be ignorant--But is this HFS for the Mac or Amiga--We ask the pressig
house for a more universal format and they are working on this as we speak so
that 1 disc can serve many a platform.

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2051
  To: TOM DAHLIN                               Date: 07/15/93  6:43p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Rel 3.                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <07-13-93 10:57> Tom Dahlin wrote:

TD>>   Hello, Lee, I was just wondering if the new release of BB is
TD>> basically the same as the first release? I already have Rel 1.0

Yes, this is basically the same, with the difference that alot of scans were
removed (well over 1,000)--If you own a previous version, it would not be worth
your while to get 3.0--Thanks for asking !

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2052
  To: JASON TAYNOR                             Date: 07/15/93  7:14p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-11-93 16:39> Jason Taynor wrote:

JT>> Could someone tell me something about the difference between the
JT>> older and newer (3.0) Busty Babes?

NO models, no filmstars, and a real decreased probability that the disc
contains playboy/penthouse on it,--Removed alot of the amateurs, and reduced
the disc from 670 MB to 520 MB. Alot safer for sysops now--Plus 3.0 has a new
interface called, "ShowOff"--Look at 16 images at a time, manipulate the disc
with great ease, and zoom and enlarge your favorite section of the image many
times over--

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2053
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/15/93 11:26a
Subj: Mitsumi drivers needed                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BT>  would version 2.1b help you out any? I have it for my internal Mit's
 BT> It seemed to load fine for me, I have 3 of them daisy chained and 3 more

You mean to tell me that you had 3 internal mitsumi's daisy chained?

CJK

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2054
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/15/93 12:54p
Subj: ANNOUNCEMENT                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 VS>    I sure will.. our catalogs will be printed by the time we get back,
 VS> so feel free to send me your address if you'd like one. You can reach me
 VS> netmail at 1:140/121, by phone [phone], by fax [phone], or by
 VS> snailmail at 6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, SK., S4N 4G7

Hmm.... I tried to send you netmail, but after 2 failed attempts, (your side
hung up on me before it sent the mail) I have decided to enter my address and
stuff here!

Chris Kuefler
22-400 Silin Forest Road
Ft McMurray Alberta (Canada)
T9H-3S5

Please reply if you get this, if I dont get a reply, I guess Ill have to fax
it!

CJK

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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 2055
  To: ERIC JORGENSEN                           Date: 07/15/93  9:50p
Subj: Cheap CD-ROM Drives                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EJ>i would like to buy a cd-rom drive and controller and stuff... what's the
  >cheapest price i can get to gte everything i need to run a cd-rom drive?

I dont sell CDROM drives....
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From: DANNY BANISTER                         Number: 2056
  To: ALLAN KENNEDY                            Date: 07/11/93  5:28p
Subj: Cd drives, software, &c                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>PATRICK  I wish you could see the way your add spreads across and wraps
>on my
>screen. You proablly have some good prices and I would like too check
>them out,
>but your adds are so hard to read I just delete them when they pop up. I am
>sure you would do your bussiness a great service if you would revamp the way
>you write your adds.

    Patrick, I've had the same problem viewing your ads!

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From: LYN BORCHERT                           Number: 2057
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/15/93  7:48a
Subj: Old CD-ROMs                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                              JEM DISC CD-ROM
                          Old CD-ROM Trade-In Deal
              (offer must be postmarked no later than 9/1/93)
           -----------------------------------------------------
    Tired of looking at those old CD-ROM discs that you bought thinking
    they were going to be one thing, but they were not what you wanted at
    all.  You can't even give them away cause you'd be too embarrassed to let
    anyone know how bad you got ripped off.  Your troubles are over cause
    those old useless CD-ROMs are worth $10.00 towards the purchase of JEM
    DISC.  For a limited time, you can take advantage of this fantastic
    offer.  Just fill out the order form, send along that old CD Disc that
    isn't damaged but will never get used again, and you save $10.00 off the
    price of a new JEM Disc packed full of great programs and more.

    Jem Disc CD-ROM is packed with over 500 meg of Shareware & Public
    Domain files selected with the SysOp in mind and organized for easy
    assimilation into your BBS.

    To take advantage of this offer, simply file request JEM-TRADE from
    either of our support boards listed below.

    Or you can call in and download the order form and other information
    freely before the logon process, so it's fast and easy.

    The Holiday BBS     1:203/49  [phone]  Intel V.32 14.4
    The Hour Glass BBS  1:300/12  [phone]  USR Dual Stand. 14.4

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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 2058
  To: TROY JOHNSON                             Date: 07/13/93  5:20p
Subj: Re: Pioneer 6 disk changer              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On Sun 11-Jul-1993  3:44p, Troy Johnson wrote:
TJ> I have another Pioneer six disk changer for sale, It is brand new used
TJ> about a week for testing..I have the box and original sales ticket..

TJ> I am asking 800.00 o.b.o.

TJ> Don't get crazy on the offer, I don't need to sell it that bad

TJ> VOICE 702 459 8862
TJ> Troy

TJ> --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0109]
TJ>  * Origin: Real Pro BBS Home of the Pioneer CD-Rom Changer (1:209/249)

I'll give ya 600.00 for it since i can get a new one for 750.00. Well let me
know either way.

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From: ROBERT ANDRES                          Number: 2059
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/15/93  1:39a
Subj: CD-Rom Discs 4sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the following applications (on CD-Rom disc) for sale:

Windows 3.1 (includes 195 page manual)--------------------$45.00
Software Toolworks Encyclopedia---------------------------$45.00

In addition, I have the following CD-Rom utilities/games on disc:

U.S. Atlas 1.5 with Automap-------------------------------$29.00
Space Quest IV--------------------------------------------$27.00
King's Quest V--------------------------------------------$25.00
Shareware Overload (games, utilities etc)-----------------$19.00
Wrath of The Demon----(arcade game)-----------------------$19.00
Phoenix 3.0 shareware disc (lots games, utilities)--------$19.00

Add $2.00 for shipping.  Drop me a e-mail here or give me a
call at 202-574-8911.

Robert Andres

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 2060
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/15/93  9:12a
Subj: PC CDs - Magazine Subscri               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I want Night Owl's 9.0 !!!  Will you do COD ??
 > If so will you match a ligitamate competitor's price of $29 ???
 > If
 > so  please  ssend one to:
 >                                J.P. Ladner
 >                                P.O. Box 236
 >                                Scottsville, VA 24590

 > Please let me know when shipped including if you'll take a check
 > (and if
 > so who to make it out to) I will also pay COD charges..

Best I can do is $34 + $4 shipping. I will take checks, but won't ship until it
clears. COD requires $4.50 additional. Let me know.

Chris

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From: JOE BURKE                              Number: 2061
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/12/93  5:02a
Subj: HOTTEST CD AROUND                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>        Here it is, one of the most talked about CD's on the
BO> Market!
BO>                           SOFTWARE VAULT II
BO>    Over 640 Megs of Shareware Programs and ALL of them dated
BO> '93'
BO>    There are NO DUPLICATIONS on this CD and only a 1% Dup rate

True it's a pretty good CD but not quite what I had read about. No exact dupes
but alot of duplicate programs that have two or so releases of the same
program. From what I find it's only about 560 megs or so not actually 640,
plus buyer be aware that if you run a bbs that uses dorinfo.def for a drop
file the supplied CD door won't work for you.


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2062
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/15/93  6:44p
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM Drives                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 11 Jul 93  10:11:18, I heard Michael Konor shout to All:

MK>
MK> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Michael,

  I am going to probly send you the Money next week for four CD-Rom's...
Also, Can you get Mitsumi Drives ??  If so, I am wanting to buy a few of them,
and maybe about 10 or so more Toshiba's ??  Interested in the Business ??


              .....|<evin

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2063
  To: JASON BURKHART                           Date: 07/16/93  1:38a
Subj: Re: Texel                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Anybody got a Texel CD-ROM with 265ms with cables and 16 bit
>>    interface???? Must beat $499.00. Thanx


Sure, we carry both the internal at $379. and the external for $479.

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad
to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 2064
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/15/93  1:34a
Subj: how about magazine rack?                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

i have been looking for that at a decent price...

\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2065
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/16/93 11:50a
Subj: Toshiba CDROMs                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer.

205-837-5053




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From: ROBBIE WILKES                          Number: 2066
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/16/93  3:43p
Subj: Lost address on Digital D               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello all,

Am looking for the fellow that I agreed to purchase the Digital Dreams CD
from.  I have been awaiting my new set of checks, and can't find your
number or address.

Please echo back with your address and phone number so I can get this
check sent out.  Of course, if you no longer have the CD, that's
perfectly understandable, and I apologize for not getting in touch with
you sooner.

Take care,

Robbie Wilkes
[phone] after 6:00pm EST

... CP [IR] * Putt knot yore trussed inn spell chequers


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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 2067
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/15/93  8:21a
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MW>Howdy, just got a CD-ROM and I like to know more about Night Owl ?
MW>I run a BBS and I am looking for CD's to put online.

 MS> Night Owl 9 is a 670mb CD with all 1993 file dates, and files grouped
 MS> into 60 file areas.  Very little to no duplication to previous Night
 MS> Owl releases, and perfect for online use with built-in file listings.
 MS> For BBS use, I'd rate Night Owl 9, Pier2, and Software Vault 2 as the
 MS> best I've seen.  Pricing:  Night Owl 9 $37, Pier2 $37, and Software
I would like to order the owl-9 how I do that?...I like to save the cod's and I
don't have a credit card?


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From: TECHNICAL BRIEF                        Number: 2068
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 07/13/93  8:52p
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Jim Lambert <=-

 JL>Mike Shannon of StarVector is a fine businessman.  He offers prices that
 JL>are very hard for me to beat most of the time.  I have even ordered some
 JL>discs from him when a customer needed something that my suppliers didn't
 JL>carry. He was polite and delivery was prompt.

This is the direct number to the manufacturer of all the CD'S you will ever
need. CD's for like $15 bucks and $20 bucks.

        LASER RESOURCES
        1-800-535-2737

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From: KEITH SHEEHAN                          Number: 2069
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/10/93  9:30p
Subj: MS BOOKSHELF '93 MPC                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does any CD Distributer that advertises thier products on this echo have the
1993 edition of the Microsoft Bookshelf (MPC Version) for less than $129 that
I've seen it for in such places as Elek-Tek & Comp USA. I was intereted in
purchasing this disk but I don't want to spend on $129 on an electronic version
of some books I already have! I can justify looking up things in the books for
that price.
 √

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From: CARL GINSBERG                          Number: 2070
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/11/93  4:39p
Subj: TRADE ?                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone want to trade a internal
cd rom that is pas 16 compatible for a 386/16
with 5 meg of memory 42mb hard drive vga card
and so on.
If so Call me at 708-231-0882
or leave a message.
Thanks,
Carl...
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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                       Number: 2071
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/15/93  6:22p
Subj: Night Owls 9.0                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello J.p.!

In a message to All <07/13/93> J.p. Ladner wrote:

JL> I need Night Owls 9.0 ASAP!!!

JL> Please send all bids and info (condition, price, warranty, ect.) to me
JL> via this system or call my bbs directly at [phone]


JL>            ***  **  **  **  **  **  ***  **  **  **  **  **  ***
JL>        .   *****************************************************
JL>             ***************************************************
JL> *      .    *********                               *********
JL>               *******       The Ignoreland BBS        *******          *
JL>     .    .    *******                                 *******   *
JL>               *******     Over 30 Message Bases !     *******   * *   *
JL>      *       *******             Doors !             *******   *       *
JL>  *           *******        Modest File Bases        *******  *
JL>               *******            Netmail !            *******   *     *
JL>  *   *    *   *******   Friendly, Available Sysop !   *******  *
JL>               *******        More to come  !!!!       *******        *
JL>     *         *******                                 *******     .
JL>  *        *   *******   Running VBBS 6.0 & USR HST/DS *******
JL> **  **  **  *********  1200-14.4 24/7 365 days a year *********  **  **
JL> ********************** Call  [phone]   Today!
JL> *************************************************************************
JL> ***********************************************A User Friendly, Oriented
JL> System!******************************************************804-286-4685
JL> HST/DS*******************************************************************
JL> *************************************
JL> --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta
JL>  * Origin: COMA BBS [phone] in Charlottesville, VA (1:2618/102)

I'll sell you mine for $10 and $0.50 per mile, I can leave
tomorrow, is that fast enough?
...Jeff...

 * WCE 1.10/2020 * Error reading FAT Table...Try Skinny one ? (Y/N)


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From: JOHN BRODERICK                         Number: 2072
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/16/93 11:44a
Subj: Re: Old 600ms CD-ROM driv               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Kevin Pausche to Chris Kuefler <=-

 CK>  CL> Does anybody have some old 600ms drives? Maybe older??
 CK>  CL> I am looking for the cheapest you can give me.. maybe
 CK>  CL> $175.00 Canadian (With controler card!!) or without
 CK>
 CK> Hey! I live in Canada, so this should be an almost done deal, I have 2
 CK> mitsumi's for sale, controller cards for both, I will take $375 for both o
 CK> them or $190obo individualy.
 CK>

        Hey if they're external I'll make an offer on one.



        THANKS
        Satalite man


... File not found, I'll load something *I* think is interesting.
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From: DAN HATTERICK                          Number: 2073
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/15/93 12:12a
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike,I can read your post fine.No wrapping here.Looks good. -Dan

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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 2074
  To: PEYTON NORMAN                            Date: 07/16/93  4:57a
Subj: Cd Rom discs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* On 07-11-93 in a message to All, Peyton Norman said:
PN> I carry over 400 titles in stock, 40 XXX titles and 10 Full
PN> If you are looking for CD~s just call
PN>
PN> DDDDDDDDDDDDDD
PN>         ACD~S and More
PN>          D13526 Canal Dr
PN>         Perdido Key, FL 32507
PN>         1-904-492-7483

Do you have a catalog?  If so, please send on to:

Micro Bits BBS
PO Box 4096
Highlands Ranch, CO 80126

Please include the catalog with adult materials listed.

Thanks,

.dn
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2075
  To: JASON BUCHANON                           Date: 07/15/93  9:09p
Subj: Night Owls 9                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JB> Do you have the Nightowls #9 in stock?  What does the owl
JB> look like on the cover of this one?  seems the maker of
JB> Nightowls changes the owl  every new relese.

JB> --- QuickBBS 2.80 (Gamma-2)
JB>  * Origin: The CrossRoads BBS, <THE Source For Programmers!>
JB> (1:344/79)
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2076
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/16/93  6:52a
Subj: So Much Shareware 3 $29                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

So Much Shareware $29. Plus shipping.

Payment: Visa/MC/Discover/AMEX

GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
1-206-473-1634 or 1-800-277-5179 FAX

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2077
  To: JD BROWN                                 Date: 07/16/93  6:57a
Subj: Re: Walnut Creek CD                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Anyone have the new Walnut Creek OS/2 CDROM, June 1993, available?
> I would rather buy from a dealer, (keep you in business) than direct.
We have it in stock. If you like to order, please call 1-800-373-0628. TTYL

GroupWare

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2078
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/16/93  7:07a
Subj: Re: nightowl 9                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> business.  They're here to get a fair deal on quality discs... not sit
> around groping the one-eyed trouser trout (which must be what goes on at
> your store, now that your wife threw your ass out).  ;-)
Dear Dave,
I wish you would talk with more respect about a place where fed you when you
were in most need and paid your bills. This echo is CD-ROM business related and
I don't think it is very nice for you to mention anything about my personal
life. I hope you can understand what I meant!..

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From: JOE STEVENS                            Number: 2079
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/16/93  4:48p
Subj: CD ROM...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** Quoting Bubba Therrien to Joe Stevens dated 07-14-93 ***
> hi joe.
> I have sevaral intenal mitsumi's and found that they are very reliable.
> For the price tag of $175.00 complete, you can't beat it....

Thanks... do you use them for a BBS or for personal use?
I need a good BBS CD Rom.

Joe Stevens

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From: GARY SHADE                             Number: 2080
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/15/93 10:35p
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>TO ALL READERS . . . The following is a section of my ad.  Please
MS>reply back as to whether or not it is legible:

Mike your copy was readable. I got your catalog by the way. We'll be
talking.
Gary



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From: GARY SHADE                             Number: 2081
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/15/93 10:40p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>I'm interested in this drive but I'm leary of a 150ms drive and
JL>software
JL>for only $200 ???

Sorry to jump in - but the Mitsumi is 300 ms access time, but being MPC
compliant (as most drives are) yields a 150 kb transfer rate. Perhaps
that's where the 150 ms came from. The older Mitsumi (which I own) was
500-600ms access time, but still yields the MPC spec'd 150 Kb/S transfer
rate. They sell for $189.00 new. So a $200.00 price tag for the drive and
some software (like maybe three CDs) is not out of line.
Gary




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From: GARY SHADE                             Number: 2082
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/15/93 10:47p
Subj: CD Catalogs                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

OK folks send me your junk mail. I'm interested in receiving your CD
catalogs (you distys. Also if you would be interested in my distributing
your products via a credit card door on my BBSes, I woul dbe interested to
hear about your distribution discounts, terms, price protections (if any)
and return privileges. Send your info to:

Gary Shade
10120A W. 76th Street
Eden Prairie MN 55344

That's my work address. I plan to have Shade's Landing on line later this
fall after the remodeling, electrical and power conditioning has been
installed. So let me hear from you ASAP! Looking forward to doing business
with you all.
GS




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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 2083
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/15/93  1:57p
Subj: Re: CAN U READ THIS?                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> ALL READERS:  Please let me know if you can read this OK.  Thanks

I'm not all readers, but I can read this ok.


... My CD Rom is slower than your CD Rom!
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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2084
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 07/16/93  2:02a
Subj: SHERLOCK HOLMES                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

13 Jul 93 19:59, Edward Crouser wrote to Eric Bravick:

 -=>> Quoting Eric Bravick to Sam Figueroa <=-
 EB>> It needs a 350 ms or better to look and sound smooth.

 EC>         I have a demo of it that keeps crashing. My CDROM drive is
 EC>  800ms and I thought that was probably the cause.

If you mean Consulting Detective #1, I ran it fine on an 800ms Hitachi
(CDR2500).  There was a one second hesitation for every 20-30 seconds of
full-motion color video, but it worked.  I was running the real disk, not a
demo, so that may account for some difference.

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From: HENRY ARIAS                            Number: 2085
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 07/16/93  5:47a
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

SP>One last question - are the graphics 640x480? I'd be rather disappoint
SP>if most of the pictures were only 320x200, etc. If they are, and you s
SP>have the disk, I'll offer $25 for it. Sounds interesting.
        They come in various resolutions, like I mentioned it is
predominantly Windows based, but will run from DOS with lots of work. I
have found that a few are in the 320x200 class but most are close to
640x480 or 640x400 all in 256 colors and no greyscale stuff...
I wound entertain $25.00 for it and about $3.00 bucks to ship the
thing.... Let me know .... Later <Henry>

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From: EARL BONSER                            Number: 2086
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/16/93  4:35p
Subj: CD ROM SPEED VS. BBS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> DH> Unless your BBS software copies the DH> files to the hard drive before
-> they download which DH> mine does.


-> What are you using? I would like to get a hold of something like this...
for
-> Maximus if possible!

It's built into PCBoard release 15.  Saves a lot of wear and tear on my CD's
and the Lan!
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From: BOB CENTERBAR                          Number: 2087
  To: DAVID MCSPADDEN                          Date: 07/16/93  4:25p
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 07-15-93 DAVID MCSPADDEN wrote to BOB CENTERBAR...

 DM>  Hi Bob,
 DM>  Sounds like Digital Dreams will fit the bill for you. It is an R
 DM> rated
 DM> cd from Ero Tek. Claims original scans so that should take care of
 DM> your
 DM> Court worries.... CD-WORLD price $29.00. Call me at 803-481-2276 to
 DM> place an order.

Thanks for the reply....will let ya know.

Later...Bob



... OFFLINE 1.50  "Fdisk = More Free Disk Space (Y/N)?"
* LAKOTA v1.0

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2088
  To: LEN BUSSEY                               Date: 07/15/93  9:38p
Subj: adult Cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LB>Where can I find the Storm CD's.  Anybody out there want to sell any?

Len,

We have all three in stock.  Prices:   Storm 1 $25, Storm 2 $28,
Storm 3 $29.  Let me know if you're interested.  We can ship same day.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2089
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/15/93  9:38p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MB>By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off?

You keep saying that.  Out of curiosity, what would the actual monetary
damages be in this case?  Can you give us an accurate damage assessment
for this "ripoff", expressed in whole dollars?  I think we'd all like
to know if your prolonged character assassination is actually
warranted in relation to your out-of-pocket expenses.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2090
  To: JOHN ROBINSON                            Date: 07/15/93  9:38p
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JR>MS>  ALL READERS:  Please let me know if you can read this OK.  Thanks
JR>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^
JR>You were kidding of course.??? ( I hope )

No, I was serious.  I'd like to know if my ads are line-wrapping or
not.  Did it look OK?

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2091
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/15/93  9:38p
Subj: MORE CD'S ON SALE!!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

___________________________________________________________________________

                   STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!
___________________________________________________________________________

      - These are special prices, and are for a limited time only.
      - Sale limited to stock on hand, so hurry!

                              GENERAL TITLES
                              --------------
Pier 2..............$35   Phoenix 3.0.........$12   Night Owl 7.........$15
Phethean's #1.......$12   CD Grab Bag Disc....$15   CD Winbox...........$25
Bibles & Religion...$10   Colossal Cookbook...$10   Our Solar System....$10
Shareware Overload..$10   Windows 93..........$21   SoundWAV............$24
Deathstar Arcade....$10   Shareware 93........$18   House of Games......$20
Ham Radio 3.0.......$10   Sound Sensations....$10   Windoware...........$10
Complete Bookshop...$10   Technotools.........$10   Too Many Typefonts..$10
Fontmaster 1........$15   Clipart Goliath.....$10   Dictionaries/Lang...$10
U.S. Atlas MPC......$15   Otherware I.........$19   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$19

                       ADULT TITLES (Must state 21+)
                       -----------------------------
My First Time.......$39   PC-PIX 2............$28   Moving Fantasies....$25
Visual Fantasies....$25   Women of Venus......$25   Priv Collection 1...$29
Storm 1.............$24   Storm 2.............$25   Storm 3.............$26
(I also have the first CD from the "My First Time" video 2-Pak).........$20

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2092
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/15/93  9:38p
Subj: NEW CD ARRIVALS!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

___________________________________________________________________________

                    BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
___________________________________________________________________________

Soundware Coll'ctn..$27   1001 Utilities......$15   QRZ Ham Radio.......$19
Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16   Hamware 1993........$28   Game Arena..........$15
Eagle Eye Shareware.$25   Up All Night........$20   Precision Mapping...$88
Fantazia Fonts......$29   Business Assistant..$15   Learning Adventure..$15
M/M Computer Tutor..$30   Sound F/X Library...$29   Cookbook Heaven.....$29
Int's Graphics Libr.$33   Night Owl 9.........$37   The Holy Bible......$24

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2093
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/15/93  9:38p
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 280+
CD-ROM titles that we stock, please feel free to call our new BBS at
509-457-0206.  The system is using a U.S.R. Sportster V.32bis, so you
should have no problem logging on at any speed between 300bps and
14,400bps.

All callers may download our catalog on the first call, and to avoid the
new user questionnaire, log on as:  First name:  CD
                                    Last name:   ROM
                                    Password:    USER

Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main menu and
download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest prices, newest titles,
and CD descriptions.

While online, you may want to download one or more of the CD-ROM file
listings that are available.

The Starvector BBS is online, and waiting to serve you!  Look for
continuous updates and improvements in the near future, with more CD
file listings, new online doors, and more!

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From: JOHN CALLICRATE                        Number: 2094
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/15/93 12:33p
Subj: COREL SCSI                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm going to be selling COREL SCSI soon.  It will have been opened, but
not registered.  I will be reviewing it for a client, and I won't need
it after that.  Anybody interested?  I'll probably sell it for about
$55.


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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 2095
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/15/93  9:43p
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy Mike,

When did you send off my order?  It'll be two weeks tomorrow, still
haven't seen or heard of it...

I know, I know, probably just screwed up my discount (grin).

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: RUSSELL NABER                          Number: 2096
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/16/93  8:57p
Subj: Adaptec 1742b and CD Players            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!


Thanks to all who responded to my first posts.

But I am trying to find out about compatibility problems before I jump on a
particular model of CD player.

Here's what I want to do:

I run a BBS and would like to option to initially install one CD ROM drive, but
have the option to add more.  I want the best transfer speed for 14,400 baud
connects without slowdowns.  I want it to work smoothly with the adaptec 1742b
controller SCSI card, either internal or external to it.  Seamless integration
with Maximus files.bbs files.

Also the ability to access these CD ROMs from another desqview window on my
own.


Has anybody had experience with this controller with a certain brand  of CD ROM
player in multiple?

Or: the adaptec 1742b with the pioneer 6 disk changer unit?



Russell

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From: JOHN HISCOTT                           Number: 2097
  To: JOE STEVENS                              Date: 07/16/93  9:20a
Subj: CD ROM...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Joe Stevens Scribbled:

 > I am interested in Purchasing a CD ROM drive.  I have looked
 > at several models... the one whick is the least expensive and
 > still offers reasonable features is a mitsumi brand.  Does

Mitsumi's Great, other then the slow speed.. Which really isnt that bad.. it is
FIne.. At least mine is.. and I like it and am Thinking of buying another one
in a couple weeks..

Well Mine had a 16 Bit Card.. Dunno about the rest though...

John

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2098
  To: KEVIN PAUSCHE                            Date: 07/16/93  8:56a
Subj: Re: Old 600ms CD-ROM drives             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 KP> $190 for a used 600 ms?  New mitsumis can be purchased
 KP> for about $300 here..
 KP> And they're 350 ms and brand new

Well go ahead and buy one! The thing about the 350ms ones as that they are not
really that speed. they SAY 350ms, but that is only in one seek. When you buy a
cd-rom you should look for a 350ms multiple-pass seek. IE: avereage time after
200 seeks is 350ms and that would be a pretty fast cd-rom. Umm they were
advertized a 350ms (I just bought them) but I dont say that they are becasue in
fact, none of them really are.

So if you want, I have 2- 350ms (although they really are not) drives for
sale,$ 200 each. You have my address. (THIS IS CANANDIEN PRICES FOR ALL OF YOU
AMEREICAN READING THIS)

CJK

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2099
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 07/16/93  8:57a
Subj: Mitsumi's for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DK> Just thought I'd ket you know that you can purchase the LU005 drivers for
 DK> $187...

And if you convert that to Canadien you are looking at a price of $243.1

CJK

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From: DANIEL BENTLEY                         Number: 2100
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/16/93  6:35p
Subj: and...                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I forgot to to mention in my last message that I'm only interested in
catalogs from the U.S.  Also, I'm not interested in adult oriented
material.
                                             Daniel Bentley
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From: JOE BURKE                              Number: 2101
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 07/16/93  5:20a
Subj: So Much Shareware 3 Revie               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Tim can you tell me if the door that comes with it workes with
dorinfo*.def/exitinfo ? Also does it run any Cd or just So Much Shareware 3?
Thanks for any info. I'm desperate for a cd door to do this.


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From: JOE BURKE                              Number: 2102
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/16/93  5:25a
Subj: Any one want to trade?                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have The Original Shareware 1992 CD that I would like to trade for any adult
CD.


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2103
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 07/16/93  6:08p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DR> Hello Michael!
 DR> Terry is a VERY respected man in this echo, and it'll take a lot more
 JR>   than the likes of you to change that.
 DR> Terry is honest enough that I send discs to him BEFORE being paid.
 MS> I have dealt with him several times, both from the
 JR>   sending AND receiving end, and I've found him to be very polite and
 JR>   honest in his dealings with me.
 JR> And this is a public warning for you to stop whining. tim moderator
 DR> Welcome to my twit filter, sport.
 JR> /JIM/
 JR> --- FidoPCB v1.3 [NR]
 JR> * Origin: The GIFfer in Tampa, FL USA [phone] USR 16.8DS
 JR> (1:377/50)

So is your capturing of bits and pieces of four out of say 400 people that read
this echo, expressing their devotion to a thief supposed to mean ANYTHING to
me.  Terry Woodward tried to steal a CD-Rom from me, I posted about it, finis.
If you love Terry so much, fine, hang with him. That still does not change the
fact that he is a liar, a fraud, and a thief, now does it?

 * MKRead v1.01 * *Four hours* to bury a cat?  Yeah, it wouldnt keep still.


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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2104
  To: WARREN DANIO                             Date: 07/16/93  6:13p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MB > By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me
 MB > off?
 WD>         Hey KID, why don,t you go in the closet and play
 WD>        with your flashlight. More damn Whiners!!!!

If you consider a father of three, who is a property manager a kid, you must be
in your nineties by now, eh?  Must explain the grumpiness.

 * MKRead v1.01 * It's the cats' house.  We just pay the mortgage.


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From: BRIAN HURLEY                           Number: 2105
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/16/93  9:17a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>TO ALL READERS . . . The following is a section of my ad.  Please reply
  >back as to whether or not it is legible:


Looked good here..........

Brian

 * OLX 2.2 * Tagline Lotto: ##########<- Scratch here to reveal prize.

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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 2106
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 07/15/93 12:18a
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Congratulations to you and Herb on your new home purchase.  Hope you are
getting along well.

As for your inquiry, there are a lot of CD-ROMs with text material on
them--disc preference depends on the subject material you're after.  Some discs
that I use are "Computer Select," a CD-ROM disc of one full year of the largest
number of computer magazines available on disc (i.e., PC World, PC Mag, etc.)
and "World Library," a CD-ROM disc of about a thousand publications including
all Shakespear's writings, all Sherlock Holmes stories, and several other
written works.  Several other companies have started producing their own discs
of literary works like Nimbus and the Bureau of Electronic Publishing.  The
Washington Times newspaper is available on CD-ROM for a reasonable price (about
$150) but other major newspapers are still only available on CD-ROM from some
of the large magazine companies for a few thousand dollars.  Newsweek on
CD-ROM, with video and sound clips will be released shortly and several other
new releases will be geared towards literary type materials with a multimedia
twist.  The discs mentioned above should be available from the larger CD-ROM
delaers in this echo.
Good luck and happy ROMing.


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From: PHILIP RUSSELL                         Number: 2107
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/01/93  8:37p
Subj: Re: cd price list 2/2                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am interested in a number of titles - particularly the educational
ones. What are your airmail fees on 20+ CDs to R.S.A. ? How long does
it take for post to get here ? What method of payment should I use ?
Where in the States are you, in case I have a friend go across soon ?

Regards,
Philip


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From: PHILIP RUSSELL                         Number: 2108
  To: NILL TOULME                              Date: 07/01/93  8:47p
Subj: Re: cdrom access prices 6               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 NT> ===  D-ROM ACCESS PRICE LIST FOR JUNE - REFERENCE AND BUSINESS
 NT> =======================================================================
Where is it ?? I thought it would follow ? Maybe it got lost in the
satellite connexion.
Philip

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 2109
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  4:53a
Subj: Small problem                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike,
The Precision Mapping disk will only scan and find zip codes. All other search
attempts (city, street, area code) returns a no match found message. It won't
even find New York or Chicago! All other functions work perfectly. Is this a
bad disk or am I doing something wrong?
Please call me at 1-800-428-2835

Thanks,


Michael



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From: JASON PAUL                             Number: 2110
  To: TOM CAMPBELL                             Date: 07/16/93  2:21p
Subj: Looking for a drive                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TC>    Adaptec 1542 SCSI Card

I see that you want to trade this away.  How much do you want to sell it for?
Do you have all of the drivers for it?  Do you have the Corel SCSI drivers?
Thanks.  If you would like to call me my number is
319-289-3977.  Thanks!

-=-
 * SLMR 2.1a * I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it?

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 2111
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/16/93 11:23p
Subj: Toshiba CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

michael, my drive arrived yesterday.  took about 15 mins to install and it
works just fine.  thanks again. runs like a champ under os/2.

\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 2112
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/16/93 11:30p
Subj: argh!  your list                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

disappeared before i saved it to disk.  would you please netmail it to me, or
repost your phone number, etc?  thanks... there were some CDs i wanted to
order!

\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2
1:205/31 in fido...
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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2113
  To: DAVID MCSPADDEN                          Date: 07/16/93  8:20a
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DM> Sounds like Digital Dreams will fit the bill for you. It is an R rated
DM>cd from Ero Tek. Claims original scans so that should take care of your

Dave, for what it's worth, DD is NOT original scans. Almost all are from
commercial magazines. Many show moire patterns that come only from
scanning magazines. Many are duplicates of scans from other boards, like
Garlique and Nitelog. It isn't a bad disk but I don't think it would
hold up in court.

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * For a photographer, life is just a bed of poses.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2114
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  8:35a
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> 1001 Utilities (New!).........15.00    Microsoft Works
 MS> MPC...........58.00
 MS> 7th Guest.....................54.00    MIDI Music
 MS> Shop...............31.00
 MS> Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Mixed Up Mother
 MS> Goose.........24.50
 MS> Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Monarch
 MS> Notes.................64.00


This is what it looked like on my screen.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2115
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/17/93 11:24a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> MS>  CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC
 MS> MS> Gameroom...................28.00
 MS>
 MS> Mike,
 MS> Looked good to me until I attempted to "Quote" the sample and as
 MS> see...
 MS> Cutting the spaces down between list by about 4 should do it.
 MS>


This makes me think that MegaMail (my reader de jour) is screwing your
posts up when it displays them, Mike. I searched throught the congif
process but couldn't find a place where I could change its display
margins so I'm stuck until my fav FIDO BBS switches over to QWK format.
They're supposed to do that any day now (yeah, right). After that I can
use SLMR or OLX. The other FIDS BBS I use has only Blue Wave implemented
and I get the same results there with the same lack of anything to do
about it on my end. Since no one else is having a problem with your
formatting, I'll shut up and live with it.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2116
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/17/93 11:43a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: 07/18/93  7:10a                       Private: No

 TH> moderator


Boy, I'm glad you've got this job and not me! Hang in there....
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2117
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  1:22p
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD Winbox.....28.50 * Software Vault 2....23.95 * Global Explorer..93.50
Games 1993....24.50 * Shareware Studio 2..23.95 * Bible Library....28.95
Windows 1993..27.50 * Up All Night........19.95 * NG/SD Mammals....26.50
Mayo Clinic...28.50 * Aminet (Amiga)......16.95 * Busty Babes......29.95
Nightowl v9...28.95 * Reference Library...26.95 * Ecstasy..........29.95
Nightowl v8...26.95 * Readers Library.....28.95 * Nix Pix 2/3/4/5..29.95
Pier 1........27.95 * Clip Art Galore..28.95  We sell Hundreds of Titles
All Chestnut Titles (15 CDS)...13.50 * Many Walnut Creek Titles...16.95
PCJ - Orders - 800-547-7817 *-* Orders\Inquiry - 615-339-0235 (24 Hrs)
Fax [phone] *-* BBS 615-478-2890 *-* No surcharge for credit cards

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 2118
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/17/93  2:51p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks, I'll probally be giving the old one a shot.

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 2119
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  2:54p
Subj: Busty Babes, before 3.0.                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anyone got the above?  Not the newer one with a bunch of stuff removed? Also,
I've seen it advertised for $29, any dealers will match that?  If so, leave a
number for me to contact you at, I'd rather a BBS number where I can order
on-line as I've got a seperate data and voice line and my room-mate doesn't
like too many LD calls on the voice line.
Jason

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2120
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 07/17/93  7:46a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM Drives                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KP> MK> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00
KP>
KP>   I am going to probly send you the Money next week for four
KP> CD-Rom's...
KP> Also, Can you get Mitsumi Drives ??  If so, I am wanting to buy a
KP> few of them,
KP> and maybe about 10 or so more Toshiba's ??  Interested

I'm interested.  Call me at 205-837-5053


*FSED91j*
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From: KEVIN ROBBINS                          Number: 2121
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  1:28p
Subj: CD ROM Titles                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    I am interested in purchasing a few CD ROM games.  If anyone has
 a game they want to sell let me know about it here on this echo.

Kevin Robbins 07/17/93 13:27
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From: BENJAMIN KEEN                          Number: 2122
  To: BOB KELLY                                Date: 07/16/93  7:02p
Subj: HERE WE ARE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BK> TM>BK>SQ>    Cheers BBS in beautiful Cambridge, Ontario, Canada is
 BK> TM>BK>SQ>    proud to be carrying this echo !!
 BK>
 BK> TM>BK>And I'm so proud you told us about it...
 BK>
 BK> TM>And I'm so proud that you're so proud that Cheers told us
 BK> TM>about it!!!
 BK>
 BK> My pleasure! Anyone else out there proud about this?

     I'm proud too!! I'm also proud that we have the same initials!!!


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From: BENJAMIN KEEN                          Number: 2123
  To: YO ANYBODY                               Date: 07/16/93  7:02p
Subj: Mac SCSI CD - ANY WAY                   Refer: NONE
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I want a CD-ROM Drive! I have a Mac! It needs to be External and Able to
hook up IN SOME WAY to a SCSI interface. THOSE ARE THE *only* two
requirements!!! Except for it needs to be cheap! Dealers, hit me with all
the catalogs U want! Folks, palm off your old stuff on me! Mail me here or
at
    Benjamin Keen
    1528 Autumn Rd.
    Charleston, WV  25314-2306
    304/343-4447
-----BEN!



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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 2124
  To: KEVIN DEW                                Date: 07/15/93  5:52p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KD>        Sound's good, but will it have any *.S3M's *.STM's or *.669's?
KD>I'm in to the "more than 4 channel" music now.. Let me know when it comes ou

Kevin, the Sysop's name is Walk Perko and he is accepting orders now.
In fact, he will not press the CD until he gets 15 more orders.
His BBS is devoted to .midi and other music-related stuff and he is a
very honest guy, so if you are really interest, I can get your his
number and you can place an order w. him.


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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 2125
  To: DAVID MCSPADDEN                          Date: 07/15/93  6:10p
Subj: CD-WORLD 4                              Refer: NONE
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DM>                             CD-WORLD
DM> CD-WORLD                    Price list       For on-line orders call
DM> 2650 Wedgefield RD          July  1993       The BBS at 803-481-7149
DM> Sumter SC 29154                              Voice 803-481-2276
DM>                                              FIDO 1:3647/2


I would like to place an order w/ you for 2 caddies at $4 each.
Is the above address correct? And check paybale to CD-WORLD?


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2126
  To: MICHAEL KANKO                            Date: 07/16/93 11:57a
Subj: Well                                    Refer: NONE
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MK> Well, since the lowest you've come across is $29 then is that a
MK> valid price for me to purchase it at?

It sure is.  I said I would match all other valid prices and I will.  Just give
us a call and let us know what you are interested in.  Thanks.

                                                Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
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From: HERMAN WIGGINS                         Number: 2127
  To: PATRICK SHEN                             Date: 07/17/93  1:12p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Patrick!

Check is in the Mail I will take it...Shareware Overload....

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2128
  To: JD BROWN                                 Date: 07/17/93  1:17a
Subj: Walnut Creek CD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JB>Anyone have the new Walnut Creek OS/2 CDROM, June 1993, available?
JB>I would rather buy from a dealer, (keep you in business) than direct.

JD,

We have them in stock as of 7/16/93.  Price is $16.  Give a shout if you
want one.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2129
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/17/93  1:17a
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
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CK> MS>  ALL READERS:  Please let me know if you can read this OK.  Thanks

CK>Yup!
CK>PS- how long did you say it usually takes for a CD to get to Canada?

Chris,

It varies widely, but ordinarily within a week.  Your order shipped out
on 7/9, so you should be receiving it soon.  Customs can sometimes hold
things up.  BTW, Thanks for the report.   8)

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2130
  To: RED KENNEDY                              Date: 07/17/93  1:17a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
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RK> > back as to whether or not it is legible:
RK> > Please give me your feedback on this also.

RK>It is comming accross in two nice neet columns

Thanks Red.  Probably just Bob picking on me again.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2131
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 07/17/93  1:17a
Subj: .\\                                     Refer: NONE
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MJ> MS> .\\ichellea

MJ>Looks like the .\\ proliferation has begun!  <g>  Thought you'd be
interested
MJ>Best Regards.

MJ>,\\ark

Yeah, I know.  Actually, to be honest, I think I stole it from her!  8)
I've got a good one for "H" people:   ><arold    Oh well, back to the
drawing board.  Back on topic (I hope):  Thanx for the order.  (best I
could do on short notice   8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2132
  To: MIKE JORDAN                              Date: 07/17/93  1:18a
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
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MJ>  Mike, I'm a door author with 5 doors out and a 6th on it's way and I was
MJ>wondering if you would be interested in a trade of registrations for my
doors
MJ>for CDs?  I've already gotten Software Vault 2 (you are right, it's an
MJ>excellent CD) and Winbox (great if you want windows files) but I'd be
MJ>interested in getting Night Owl 9, Pier2 or any other Shareware type CD like
MJ>these.  If you are intersted I'll be glad to send you details on my doors.

I dunno.  Send whatever info you have, and I'll take a looksee.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2133
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  1:18a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE UPDATE  1/2                Refer: NONE
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 July 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 7/15
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........15.00    MIDI Music Shop...............31.00
 7th Guest.....................53.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Monarch Notes.................64.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 1...18.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...39.00
 American Business Phonebk 2...28.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Amiga AB20....................16.50    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Mother of All Clipart.........24.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.50    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.50    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....30.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    National Business Directory...39.00
 Audubon's Birds...............26.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............26.00    National Parks................29.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 5.0.................22.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 6.2.................23.00
 Bible Library.................31.00    Night Owl 7.0.................24.00
 Bibles & Religion.............14.00    Night Owl 8.0.................29.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....37.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....15.00    North American Fax Book.......49.00
 Business Master...............20.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 C User's Group Library........31.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...25.00
 California Collection.........17.00    Our Solar System..............14.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-SIG #12....................28.00
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC Gameroom...................28.00
 CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CD Grab Bag Disc..............19.00    Phethean's Shareware #1.......15.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Phoenix 3.0...................15.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........24.00    Pier 1........................29.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............39.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....54.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Clipart Galore................30.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Clipart Goliath...............14.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....24.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........29.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............14.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........125.00
 Complete Bookshop.............14.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Composer Quest................37.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........34.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency...107.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....77.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....77.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Conan the Cimmerian...........34.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....39.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........29.00    Reader's Library..............31.50
 Crossword Cracker.............24.50    Reference Library.............27.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....37.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...43.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......14.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....28.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Desktop Bookshop (New!).......28.50    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......14.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Shareware Online..............28.00
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shareware Overload............14.00
 Eagle Eye Shareware (New!)....25.00    Shareware Studio 1............20.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Studio 2 (New!).....25.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2134
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  1:18a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICE UPDATE  2/2                Refer: NONE
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......28.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound (New!)..22.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Shareware 2...........29.50
 Font Master 2.................28.00    Software Vault 1..............25.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....27.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..29.00
 Game Arena (New!).............15.00    Sound Sensations..............14.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Soundware Collection (New!)...27.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    SoundWAV......................29.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Giga Games (New!).............24.00    Space Quest IV................25.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Global Explorer...............94.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Street Atlas USA..............87.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Grolier's Ill. Ency. 2.0......38.00    Super CD 2....................27.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........48.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....18.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......48.00    Super Games For Windows.......18.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...27.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.50
 Hacker Chronicles.............27.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.50
 Ham Radio 3.0.................14.00    Technotools...................14.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........28.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..29.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 House of Games................26.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Illustrated Holy Bible........49.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Too Many Typefonts............14.00
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Top 2000+ Shareware...........24.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Total Baseball................29.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Trump Castle..................33.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........15.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................27.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 King's Quest V................25.00    Up All Night Shareware (New!).20.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    VGA Spectrum 1................15.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........27.50    VGA Spectrum 2................25.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    Visions of Saturn (New!)......25.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....15.00    Vital Signs...................39.00
 Library of the Future #1......54.50    Wild Places...................24.00
 Lion's Share..................25.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Windoware.....................14.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........39.00    Windows 1993..................28.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windows Shareware Gold........37.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander II Deluxe......58.00
 Magnum One Shareware..........27.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........29.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Manhole.......................36.50    WizPak........................17.00
 Marketing Master 1992.........19.00    World Atlas MPC...............27.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............29.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak............47.00
 Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 2135
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/10/93  9:35p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
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In a message of <07 Jul 93  11:31:13>, MICHAEL SELLS (1:390/5.4) writes:
 >I have a copy of 7th Guest that I would like to trade for CD's. If you
 >have anything you no longer need, and would like to have this fantastic
 >CD, leave me a message and maybe we can make a deal!
I will offer $40 shipped, or Nix Pix Hot Pix 3 (adult) and $10.


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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 2136
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  4:59p
Subj: Summer Spectacular!                     Refer: NONE
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                            The MARKetplace!
                             1-800-289-1ROM
                  *** CD-ROM DISK SUMMER SPECIALS ***
                         July 17 - July 24, 1993

AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK.....$19     NIGHT OWL 7.0...................$19
AMINET..........................$17     OTHERWARE.......................$19
ANIMALS.........................$23     OUR SOLAR SYSTEM................$15
CALIFORNIA COLLECTION...........$18     PLAYING WITH LANGUAGE SPANISH...$19
CDWINBOX........................$24     PREMIUM MS-DOS SHAREWARE........$29
CICA WINDOWS....................$15     PREMIUM MS-WIN SHAREWARE........$29
CLIPART GOLIATH.................$15     PUBLISHER'S PARADISE............$29
DESERT STORM-LINE IN THE SAND...$19     RBBS IN A BOX...................$19
DINOSAUR ADVENTURE..............$25     SCI-FI FANTASY..................$19
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND...........$15     SHAREWARE EXTRAVAGANZA..........$35
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF CLIPART.........$22     SHAREWARE STUDIO II.............$19
FONTMASTER CD LIBRARY II........$19     SHAREWARE 1993..................$19
GAMES 1993......................$19     SHAREWARE EXPLOSION.............$10
GROLIERS ENCYCLOPEDIA MPC/DOS...$35     SHERLOCK HOLMES CONSULT.DECT....$20
HOUSE OF GAMES..................$19     SIMTEL 20.......................$15
INDIANA JONES-FATE OF ATLANTIS..$46     SO MUCH SHAREWARE II............$19
KINGS QUEST VI..................$46   **SO MUCH SHAREWARE III...........$35
LANGUAGES OF THE WORLD..........$19     SO MUCH SCREENWARE..............$25
MACMILLAN DIC. FOR CHILDREN.....$24     SOFTWARE VAULT II...............$22
MARKETING MASTER 92.............$15     STELLAR 7.......................$19
MAVIS BEACON TEACHES TYPING.....$19     U.S. PRESIDENTS.................$26
MAYO CLINIC.....................$24     ULTIMATE MOD COLLECTION.........$19
MEGA OS/2.......................$14     UP ALL NIGHT....................$21
MEGA CD-ROM #2..................$14     WINDOWS MASTER..................$15

TOSHIBA 3401 INTERNAL DRIVES...$449     TEXEL 3024 INTERNAL DRIVES.....$379
MITSUMI INTERNAL 350ms DRIVES..$199     SOUNDBLASTER PRO DELUXE........$129
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2137
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/18/93  1:03a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
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BT>Double standard there mike?
BT>moderator  this will be the last post about this subject <
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Oh Lord, please let it be TRUE.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2138
  To: PATRICK SHEN                             Date: 07/18/93  1:03a
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
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PS>Shareware Overload has file list that I believe you can import into your
PS>BBS
PS>file listing.  Most of the file dated 1991-1992.  If you want it, I

Sorry,

This CD has PRIMARILY older shareware from the late 80's, early 90's. I
doubt that there is a single 1992 file on it which is TRULY dated 1992.
(i.e. not the ZIPfile date)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2139
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  2:25p
Subj: CAN U READ THIS?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello There Mike!

In a message to John Robinson <07/15/93> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS> JR>MS>  ALL READERS:  Please let me know if you can read this OK.  Thanks
MS> JR>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^
MS> JR>You were kidding of course.??? ( I hope )

MS> No, I was serious.  I'd like to know if my ads are line-wrapping or
MS> not.  Did it look OK?

On my editor it did but then they are all set up different...

John

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2140
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  2:28p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello There Mike!

In a message to Michael Benge <07/15/93> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS> MB>By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off?

MS> You keep saying that.  Out of curiosity, what would the actual monetary
MS> damages be in this case?  Can you give us an accurate damage assessment
MS> for this "ripoff", expressed in whole dollars?  I think we'd all like
MS> to know if your prolonged character assassination is actually
MS> warranted in relation to your out-of-pocket expenses.

What difference does it make.?? His editor is "stuck in whine mode"
anyway... Maybe that is why they have small claims courts.???

I don't know you from the door knob in the house next door but I suppose i
could say "you ripped me off".. (Gets lots of mail..<g>)

I say, CUT HIS FEED.!!!!

John

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 2141
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93 10:58a
Subj: .\\                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (17 Jul 93) Mike Shannon wrote to Mark Johnsen...

 MS> MJ> MS> .\\ichellea

 MJ>Looks like the .\\ proliferation has begun!  <g>  Thought you'd be
 MS> MJ>interested Best Regards.
 MS> MJ>,\\ark

 MS> Yeah, I know.  Actually, to be honest, I think I stole it from her!
 MS> .\\ike

 Can anyone play?  Wow this is great!
 ∙\\ax

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From: SCOTT HUTCHINSON                       Number: 2142
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/16/93  1:50p
Subj: CD-ROM writer                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a CD-ROM writer.  Please reply to me with
specifications, price, and capabilities.  I can be reached at:

[phone] VOICE
[phone] BBS
1:104/127 FIDONET

Thanks,

Scott Hutchinson

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2143
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93  8:13a
Subj: MORE CD'S ON SALE!!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> ________________________________________________________________
 MS> ____
 MS>
 MS>                   STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!
 MS> ________________________________________________________________
 MS> ____
 MS>


Ah, HA! It *IS* my MegaMail reader!! This same post was not line-wrapped
under BlueWave but (as you can see) is with MegaMail. Sorry for the
hassle I put you through, Mike (looking sheepish - shuffling feet (:|
...
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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2144
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD'S 1 of 2                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY
MS>     PURCHASE!!

Mike, what Shareware disc are you giving away for only $6.00?  It
wouldn't be anything silly like the O'Connor Original Shareware 1992
would it?  (Smile!)  I would hate to think that someone is still pawning
those things off.....

                                                Dave Clark

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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2145
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: NEC and Hitachi                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SP>   Does anyone know if you can run two different kinds of CD-ROM
SP>  drives on the same system?I would like to have a NEC or other fast
SP>  speed drive for personal use and a Hitachi or other slower drive
SP>  for a BBS.

Actually, that's quite easy.  You have to load the drivers for both the
drives in the CONFIG.SYS, and then on the MSCDEX command in the
Autoexec.bat, you pull a trick like this:


c:\TSCSI\MSCDEX /d:TSLCD /d:mscd220 /d:MITSU /m:20 /l:D
                 ^        ^          ^
                 |        |          |--- Mitsumi Internal Driver
                 |        |--- Sony CDU-531 Driver
                 |--- SCSI Controller used w/3 Pioneer DRM-600a's

As you can see, not only am I running two drives, I'm actually running
five drives, of three completely different types here.  No Problem!  :)

                                        Dave Clark

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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2146
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: Which Is Best?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC> All I can add is.....the caddyless drives, at least Mitsumi, don't
DC> have the problem of sucking in dirt and dust that some of the caddy
DC> type drives have.

All too true.  The Caddy drives have a real maintenance problem.  I have
two NEC CDU-83's that have been in the shop twice already for service
problems... I've never had a Mitsumi or a Pioneer croak on me, though.

                                        Dave Clark

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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2147
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS: $29!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS> O               DIGITAL DREAMS IS HERE . . . . ONLY $29.00!

MS>              * All original scans from the McHenry BBS
MS>              * No BBS ads or logos

If you are talking about the Digital Dreams from Ero Tek, there is
nothing from McHenry on it, and there is no apparent connection to that
BBS.  If you are talking about the apparent knockoff "Digital Dreams the
McHenry Collection", you should be stating that in your ads, in order to
prevent any market confusion.  It's bad enough that someone had to clone
the name, lets not get the issue confused... (smile!)

                                                Dave Clark

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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2148
  To: ROBBIE WILKES                            Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS> Digital Dreams is a very nice adult CD with all original scans, and
MS> no BBS ads.  Has FILES.BBS for online use, with around 1700 .GIFs,

Robbie, you better make sure which "Digital Dreams" you are getting info
on.  It appears that Mike is giving you information on the so-called
"Digital Dreams McHenry Collection"... this is not the product from Ero
Tek.  The statistics on the disc from Ero Tek are as follows:

]]]     TITLE: Digital Dreams Volume 1
]]]      SIZE: 632 Megs
]]]     FILES: 2334
]]] PUBLISHER: Ero Tek Publishing
]]]  CATEGORY: Adult\BBS Ready\End User Ready

Digital Dreams is one of the best Adult oriented CD-ROM's to come down
the pike in a long long time.  This disc is comprised of Nothing but
original scans, scans that have not appeared on any CD-ROM disc
previously published, nor have these scans been on any BBS anywhere.
The images are beautiful nude women, with no men, no action shots,
and no strange pictures.  Just "Playboy" style images.

Points for SysOps:

The disc is fully BBS ready, and comes complete with file listings for
PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat, and QBBS.  In addition, a database of the
file listings is provided, in case you want to generate some other
form of file listing.  Each file sub-directory has 100 or less images
or programs in it, making it one of the easier ones to browse through.

There are "catalog" images available for downloading, that allow your
callers to view, pick and choose the images that they wish to download
BEFORE they download, saving them (and you!) time.

There is a file section on the disc that has 99 GIF images viewing and
editing utilities on it.  No longer will you have to search in vain
trying to find where to direct your callers to go to get some viewers.

All images are originals, meaning that you will not find something on
this disc that you have already in your files base.

No BBS ads, No Backgrounds, No "mirrored Images".  When your callers
download from this, they are getting "more babe for the byte!"
You won't be advertising for other BBS systems when you offer this
disc.

Points for Individual Users:

This disc has a menu interface that has to be seen to be believed!
The hard drive installation takes less than 10 seconds, and it only
takes up 295 bytes (yes, bytes!) on the hard drive.  The user
interface allows you to look at 40 "thumbnail" images at a time,
pick the ones that you wish to see and "click" on them with your
mouse to pull up the full sized images.  I've never seen a simpler
or cleaner interface on any CD-ROM anywhere!  If you do not have a
mouse, then instructions on how to operate the interface without one
is provided on the back.

All images are original.  You will not find these images on any other
CD-ROM or BBS files base (unless they copied them from this disc!)
<smile!>

The user interface program will self-configure to your VGA card, without
any intervention from you.

Negative Points:

The User Interface program requires a SET TEMP statement to work.
Without a SET TEMP statement in DOS, then the user interface program,
upon running, will attempt to set up a TEMP directory on the CD-ROM
disc.  Needless to say, this doesn't work too well!  <smile!>  If you
already have Windows v3.x installed, then you probably already have a
Set Temp installed.  However, if you do not have Set Temp in your
AUTOEXEC.BAT, then you can correct the problem simply by either
putting the following statement in your AUTOEXEC.BAT or simply typing
it at the command line:

     SET TEMP=C:\

This will correct that problem.

You need at least a 512k Video card for the best performance.  However,
a one megabyte video card will work the best.

Overall Impression:

This is one of the best adult discs that I've seen, period.  The user
interface makes it excellent for the end user, the BBS support makes it
simply great for BBS usage, and the quality of the files themselves
make it worthwhile for any application.  A must have!

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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2149
  To: MICHAEL GIUNTOLI                         Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: Pioneer 6 disc changer                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MG>        I want to start a bbs. I have been looking at both
MG> the Pioneer DRM-600A & DRM-604X changer. As i have read
MG> the 604X is twice as fast as the 604X. The difference is
MG> the 604X is 300ms with 612kb transfer rate compared to the
MG> 600A's 153kb transfer rate.
MG>        Ok, Its twice as fast. The modem only transfers at 14.4k
MG> and soon to be 28.8k. That is still faster than 28.8k
MG>        And it also says you can either use a 8 bit or 16 bit
MG> controller for either drive. If someone could enlighten me
MG> on a few things such as. Software compatability, Drivers.

Michael, as someone that runs three of the Pioneer DRM-600a's on their
BBS, I can fill you in on a few details... (smile!)

The Pioneer DRM-600a is perfectly suited for BBS file server use.  The
DRM-604x will work, as well, but it's significantly higher price is
outrageous when you look at what you are getting for the additional
money.  For BBS file server work, the interface software is more
critical than the drive speed anyday.

In order to properly use a multichanger unit on a multiline BBS, you
need software that is capable of:

    [1] Reading the files lists from Magnetic Storage, not Optical
    [2] When the user goes to download, the software should
        "Buffer" the download to magnetic.
    [3] Ideally, a "flag" should be set that informs other nodes
        that the "Drive is Busy, Please Wait".

I know that SFRom for Spitfire and EZRom for any DOOR.SYS BBS will do
all of those things.  Other software packages will do that, as well.
Once you have that in your software, the speed of the drive is
illrelevant.

If you wish, you can call me at 913-266-5851, and I can discuss the
matter further with you.

                                            Dave Clark

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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2150
  To: CHARLES HELD                             Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: Cd-rom direct                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CH> initial order without a useable drive.  If anyone from CD-ROM DIRECT
CH> monitors this echo, and if you think that you're going to ruin my
CH> credit by making me refuse a COD package you can go STRAIGHT TO
CH> HELL.  I am calling your Better Business Bureau first thing on

Charles, your credit record cannot be affected by refusing a COD order.
As someone who has worked in the credit industry for over 10 years, I
know that one for a fact!  :)

However, it's obvious that you are being treated shoddily.  Nuke 'em
Dano!  :)

                                            Dave Clark

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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2151
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>  There are NO duplicate file names on the CD, nor exact duplicate
BJ>  GIF images that could be revealed by an electronic audit of names,
BJ>  file sizes, and checksums.  Checked against a 47,000+ GIF file
BJ>  unique name data base, there were 833 "hits" indicating that, on a
BJ>  file name basis, about 41% of the files are potentially duplicated
BJ>  on other adult CDs.  The "hit" distribution was as follows:

Bob, have you checked out a title called Pixure Rom III?  For a real
enlightening experience, grab a copy of that disc, and cross check it
for duplicates versus the Porkware I title.

                                            Dave Clark

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From: DAVE CLARK                             Number: 2152
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/17/93  4:55p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams"              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


Bob, as someone that has reviewed the Digital Dreams product myself, I
thought that I would toss in my two cents here, as well... <smile!>

BJ>   The included copy of GIFReed is too crippled IMHO, to permit any
BJ>   real "try before buy" evaluation, not to mention the highly
BJ>   annoying beeps, messages, warnings, etc. that go along with the
BJ>   crippled functionality.  More to the point, as implemented by DD's

Bob, Although it can be annoying to be "beeped at" in any way, shape or
form, I don't think that three screens, only shown on bootup, are any
cause for alarm.  Once you pass through the initial three screens, there
is no more nagware, period.

BJ>   crippled functionality.  More to the point, as implemented by DD's
BJ>   authors, about half of each catalog image is occupied by a large,
BJ>   rather garish title that adds NO VALUE to the catalog image.  The

That is a function of GifREED, not the authors choice.  I've worked with
GifREED, and personally prefer it over anything else I've tried.  When
you make a catalog file, you get to specify only three things... the
resolution of the resultant file, the number of image rows that can be
placed in there, and if there is a title screen or not.  You know as
well as I do that, if there were no instructions on the thumbnail
portion, that a lot of people wouldn't realize to "click on the small
image."  Not everyone uses GDS or GifREED... <smile!>  So some
instruction were, IMHO, in order.  Because of the limitations of the
catalog process, there can be only one size of header file, nomatter
what size you try to make it.

BJ>   screen is about 10.8" wide (horizontally, not diagonally).  At
BJ>   1024x768 resolution, that makes about 95 pixels per usable inch.
BJ>   Half of a 1024x768 screen spread wall-to-wall between 36 images
BJ>   gives about 11,000 pixels, about 105 pixels square, per image.
BJ>   Compare that to the 95 pixels per inch from above, add in some
BJ>   room for titles, space between images, and gentle reader you'll
BJ>   see that the DD catalogs images must be and are truly TINY.  Look

BTW, according to GifREED, those catalog images are in 640x480.  They
could have been made for 1024x768 or 800x600, but they would have been
prohibitively large.  I know, I've made them for my BBS before, and when
you turn them on that large, they can take up 500k or more EACH.  Ouch!

BJ>   have to stare at the catalog images for very long.  Still, why the
BJ>   authors chose to surrender half the screen's real estate to a
BJ>   useless title is beyond me.

Because without that "useless screen," a lot of people would have been
in the dark about what to do.  I have to do tech support on CD-ROM's,
and believe me, there are a lot of people without a clue out there.
Anything that will make life easier on them is a plus.

BJ>   Again, IMHO, GDS offers far more capability, flexibility, and
BJ>   usability.  Sysops and end users alike will find a lot to like in

GDS also costs $5.00 PER DISC PRODUCED, according to one Disc publisher
that I work with.  Can we say ouch?  I don't think that you would want
to give up that large of a slice of your work to a shareware author, if
you were producing a title.

Bob, it's obvious that you love GDS, and that's fine.. but counting
against a disc because it's not using it is hardly fair.  I don't see
any other Adult Disc using it (if there is one, I've not seen it yet.)
And the Porkware I disc that you reviewed next certainly doesn't even
have the slickness of the GifREED interface.  It only has an older
version of VPIC available, and that doesn't measure up to GifREED for
ease of use and functionality.

More on the next one... <smile!>

                                                Dave Clark

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From: DAVE KALWISHKY                         Number: 2153
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93  3:47p
Subj: Chestnut cd's...$10! 1/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>              *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*

MS> 5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
  >    thesauruses, word-processors, style/syntax/spell checkers, glossaries,
  >    crossword solvers, foreign language tutors . . . on and on!

MS>  ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
  >  any Chestnut purchase!

I'll take this, where do I send a check!

     -=> Dave <=-     Fri  07-16-1993


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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 2154
  To: JOE STEVENS                              Date: 07/18/93  1:57a
Subj: CD ROM...                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        JOe asks this question..

> > hi joe.
-> > I have sevaral intenal mitsumi's and found that they are very relia
-> > For the price tag of $175.00 complete, you can't beat it....
->
-> Thanks... do you use them for a BBS or for personal use?
-> I need a good BBS CD Rom.
->
-> Joe Stevens

  sure do joe...  have them on my bbs. they all work just fine....
could be a little faster but I could not afford the faster ones, so they
do just fine for me.....I havent had any problems with the drives at
all, in fact ii just purchased 2 more last month...
bubba
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2155
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93 10:58a
Subj: Cdk = cd-rom kits/bundles               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600 Mastercard &
Visa accepted. Posted on 07/17/93, @ 10:46.

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE

 3024PAS16  CDK - Texel DM3024 & PAS-16 sound card     557.00
 DM3024BB   CDK - Texel DM3024 int. bus. bundle        665.00
 DM3024MMB2 CDK - Texel DM3024 int. M/M bundle         831.00
 DM3024EB   CDK - Texel DM3024 internal ed. bundle     593.00
 DM3024/CB2 CDK - Texel DM3024 internal home bundle    558.00
 5024PAS16  CDK - Texel DM5024 & PAS-16 sound card     677.00
 5024T348   CDK - Texel DM5024 & T-348 par. SCSI       608.00
 5024T130   CDK - Texel DM5024 Cd-ROM & T-130 SCSI     536.00
 DM5024BB   CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. bus. bundle        747.00
 DM5024EB   CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. ed. bundle         712.00
 DM5024/CB2 CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. home bundle        653.00
 DM5024MMB2 CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. M/M bundle         938.00
 DM3024T130 CDK - Texel int. DM3024 & T130 SCSI        461.00

Prices & spec's subject to change without notice. Best time to call: 7-10 AM &
9-12 PM Mon - Fri, all day Sat & Sun (EASTERN)

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2156
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/18/93 12:07a
Subj: Wish list                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>I need the most recent in shareware and a CD-ROM drive (preferably ne
JL>that is MPC Compliant and be 480ms or faster....

OK, Mitsumi is 350ms.....

Pier 2 is brand new,
Night Owl 9 is too,
Software Vault II,
all three for you,
and this ain't no jive,
your price J.P. is $75
add the Mitsumi drive
for another $175
So, for a mere $250
you get a combo that's nifty!

Pat

BTW, here's regular prices....

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE

 MITSUMICDD CDD - Mitsumi CD-ROM drive                 189.00
 CDSMONSTER CDS - Monster Disc                          38.00
 MONSMED93I CDS - Monster Media '93, Vol. 1             35.00
 CDSNTOWLV9 CDS - Night Owl shareware CD, Version 9     39.00
 SOFTWAREV2 CDS - Software Vault II                     30.00
 PIERS2     CDS - The Pier Shareware CD-ROM #2          39.00
 UPALLNIGHT CDS - Up All Night                          29.00

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2157
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/18/93 12:21a
Subj: Wish list                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>I need the most recent in shareware and a CD-ROM drive (preferably ne
JL>that is MPC Compliant and be 480ms or faster....

OK, Mitsumi is 350ms.....

Pier 2 is brand new,
Night Owl 9 is too,
Software Vault II,
all three for you,
and this ain't no jive,
your price J.P. is $75
add the Mitsumi drive
for another $175
So, for a mere $250
you get a combo that's nifty!

Pat

BTW, here's regular prices....

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE

 MITSUMICDD CDD - Mitsumi CD-ROM drive                 189.00
 CDSMONSTER CDS - Monster Disc                          38.00
 MONSMED93I CDS - Monster Media '93, Vol. 1             35.00
 CDSNTOWLV9 CDS - Night Owl shareware CD, Version 9     39.00
 SOFTWAREV2 CDS - Software Vault II                     30.00
 PIERS2     CDS - The Pier Shareware CD-ROM #2          39.00
 UPALLNIGHT CDS - Up All Night                          29.00

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 2158
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 07/18/93  7:41p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Jul 10 21:35>, Ryan Denke of 1:303/5.104 writes:

 RD> In a message of <07 Jul 93  11:31:13>, MICHAEL SELLS (1:390/5.4)
 RD> writes:
 >I have a copy of 7th Guest that I would like to trade for CD's. If you
 >have anything you no longer need, and would like to have this fantastic
 >CD, leave me a message and maybe we can make a deal!
 RD> I will offer $40 shipped, or Nix Pix Hot Pix 3 (adult) and $10.


Ryan,
I am not really looking for a adult CD, but, I would ship it to you for $40.00.
If OK with you Call me at 1-504-893-7279 or post here.
Thanks,

Michael Sells
309 East Saint Mary Drive
Covington, LA. 70433

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From: VICKI FLETCHER                         Number: 2159
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93 10:21a
Subj: CHESTNUT CD'S...$10! 2/2                Refer: NONE
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Dear Mike,
  Do you have a catalog or brochure of the CD's you have available?
I sure would like a copy if you do.....
                Vicki Fletcher
                513 21st Avenue Southeast
                Puyallup, Washington  98372
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2160
  To: TECHNICAL BRIEF                          Date: 07/18/93  2:10a
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
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> JL>discs from him when a customer needed something that my suppliers
> didn't
> JL>carry. He was polite and delivery was prompt.
> This is the direct number to the manufacturer of all the CD'S you will
> ever
> need. CD's for like $15 bucks and $20 bucks.
> LASER RESOURCES
FYI they are not manufacturer but distributor. TTYL

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 2161
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93  3:40a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hiya, Mike!
On Jul 15, Mike Shannon spake thusly to All:


 MS> All callers may download our catalog on the first call, and
 MS> to avoid the new user questionnaire, log on as:  First name:
 MS> CD                                    Last name:   ROM
 MS>                                     Password:    USER

 MS> Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main
 MS> menu and download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest
 MS> prices, newest titles, and CD descriptions.

how about making this freqable, mike?  :)  you know how us sysops hate to take
our bbses down.


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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 2162
  To: RUSSELL NABER                            Date: 07/18/93  3:42a
Subj: Adaptec 1742b and CD Players            Refer: NONE
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Hiya, Russell!
On Jul 16, Russell Naber spake thusly to All:

 RN> I run a BBS and would like to option to initially install
 RN> one CD ROM drive, but have the option to add more.  I want
 RN> the best transfer speed for 14,400 baud connects without
 RN> slowdowns.  I want it to work smoothly with the adaptec
 RN> 1742b controller SCSI card, either internal or external to
 RN> it.  Seamless integration with Maximus files.bbs files.

 RN> Has anybody had experience with this controller with a
 RN> certain brand  of CD ROM player in multiple?

i have two computers running os/2 with an adaptec 1542c on one and a 1542b on
the other.  the b is running a toshiba 3201 cd rom drive on my bbs.  its a
refurb drive i just bought from a fella in alabama who sells them on the
CDROM_SALE echo.  its great - works nice and fast and quite reliable. your bbs
software should copy the files to your harddrive before they are dl'ed, making
high speed xfers painless.

on my other machine i have the 1542c and a toshiba 3401 - my first cd rom
drive.  lightning fast, but over twice the cost of the 3201. not something i
wanted to repeat for the bbs.  both my cd drives are internal, but that was
more for space considerations than anything else. i have room for another in
the bbs machine, wont need another in the "play" machine.


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2163
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/18/93 12:09p
Subj: LOW LOW CDROM PRICES!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     ShareWare (** BBS Ready)             Miscellaneous (cont.)

AB20 Amiga CD-Rom.............14.95 Clip Art Galore..........**...28.95
America's Premier 1993 Sharw..24.95 Clip Art Goliath..............13.50
Aminet Amiga............**....14.95 Clip Art Heaven...............27.95
C Users Group Library.........29.50 Coates Art Review.............44.95
California Collection...**....16.95 College Handbook (1992).......18.95
CD Powerbox.............**....19.95 Color Magic Clip Art..........28.95
Fred Fish On-Line(Amiga)**....49.95 Colossal Cookbook.............13.50
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware.....14.95 Complete Bookshop.............13.50
Giga Games..............**....28.95 Composer Quest................36.95
Gigabyte Gold...........**....22.50 Compton's Interactive Encylop.99.95
Ham Radio (Shareware).........13.50 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....68.95
Libris Britannica.......**....52.95 Conan.........................33.95
Lion Share..............**....24.95 Consumer Information Disc.....38.95
Magnum Sight & Sound....**....28.95 Crossword Cracker.............23.95
Megarom 1...............**....19.95 Crossword Cracker.............24.45
Megarom 2...............**....23 95 DAC Accounting Bonus Pk v4.4.154.95
Monster Disc (2 Cds-92).**....38.95 DAC Accounting for DOS v4.4...99.95
NightOwl 5.0............**....15.95 DAC Instant Accountng-DOS/WIN.39.95
Nightowl 6.0............**....23.95 DAC Instant Rolodex for WIN3..39.95
Nightowl 7.0............**....23.95 DAC Payroll for DOS v4.4......99.95
Nightowl 8.0............**....26.95 DAC Rolodex Live v2.0.........39.95
Nightowl 8.0/9.0........**....55.95 Danger Hot Stuff 1............18.95
Nightowl 9.0............**....29.00 Danger Hot Stuff 2............24.95
Nightowl Bus. Applications....22.95 DeathStar Arcade Battles......13.50
Original Shareware 1992.**....16.95 Deep Voyage...................34.95
OS/2 Archives (Hobbes)........14.95 Desert Storm..................34.95
PC Sig H & B Collection.......29.95 Desktop Bookshop..............27.95
PC Sig #10..............**....22.95 Dictionaries & Languages......13.50
PC Sig #11..............**....24.95 Dictionary of Living World....99.95
PC Sig #12..............**....24.95 Dinosaur Adventure MPC........33.95
PC Sig #9...............**....17.95 Dinosaurs MPC.................54.95
Phoenix v3.0............**....14.95 Doctors Book of Home Remedies.36.95
Pier Shareware #1.......**....27.95 Dune..........................46.95
Powerpak Gold...........**....22.95 Education Master or Business..19.95
SCI-FI (Pics,Sound).....**....27.95 Elec. Home Libr.(250 books)...36.95
SDN 1...................**....19.95 Encyclopedia of Clip Art......26.95
Shrw Extravaganza(4 cds)**....42.95 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.50
Shareware 1993..........**....19.95 European Monarchs.............48.95
ShareWare Overload............13.50 Executive Factomatic..........36.95
Shareware Studio #1.....**....20.95 Family Doctor.................28.95
Shareware Studio #2(NEW)**....23.95 Fontmaster #1-18.95....or #2..27.95
Shareware Tiger.........**....24.95 Fonts #1......................27.95
Simtel 20 (Gov't Sharw).**....14.95 Full Bloom....................36.95
So Much Shareware #1....**....19.95 Future Wars...................48.95
SO Much Shareware #2....**....28.95 Game Arena....................13.95
Software Vault #1.......**....22.95 GameMaster (Over 500 Games)...19.45
Software Vault #2.(NEW).**....23.95 Games 1993................**..24.50
Sound Sensations..............13.50 Gifs Galore...................16.45
Source Code (Unix/Dos)........28.95 Global Explorer (Delorme).....93.50
Technotools (Programmers).....13.50 Golden Immortal...............24.95
Top 2000 Shareware............23.50 Gov't Giveaways-Entreprenuers.47.95
Up All Night............**....19.95 Great Cities of World 1 or 2..24.95
Winbox (CD).............**....27.45 Great Wonders of the World....42.95
Window Master.................19.45 Greatest Books Collection.....44.95
Windoware.....................13.50 Grolier Ill. Encyl. v2 (STW)..34.95
Windows 1993............**....27.45 Grolier Ill. Encyl. v5 MPC....47.95
Windows - CICA..........**....14.95 Grolier's Encyl. w/Ref Libr..229.95
X11R5/GNU CDRom...............24.95 Guiness Disc of Records (92)..26.95
                                    Guy Spy.......................43.95
          Miscellaneous             Hacker Chronicles.............26.50
                                    Hospitality Index.............39.95
1001 Utilities................13.95 House of Games................25.95
20th Century Almanac..........59.95 Inter. Business/Economc Atlas.24.45
7th Guest.....................52.95 Island Designs................36.95
Adventures of Willy Beamish...28.95 Jazz, Multimedia History......54.95
Aesops Fables.................29.95 Jets & Props..................31.95
Aircraft Encyclopedia.........35.95 Jokes & Pranks................13.95
Amanda Stories................44.95 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.45
Amer.Bus.Fone Book #1..$17 #2.27.95 Just Grandma & Me.............41.95
Anecdotes.....................26.95 Kathy Smith-Fat Burning Systm.54.95
Animals SD Zoo (MPC or DOS)...26.95 Key Clipmaster Pro............32.95
Arthur's Teacher Trouble......28.95 Key Fonts Pro.................32.95
Audobon Mammals or Birds......25.95 Key Home Designer.............32.95
Barney Bear Goes to School....21.95 Kids Zoo-Baby Animal Adv......36.95
Barney Bear Goes to Space.....21.95 King James Bible..............27.95
Barron's Book Notes...........39.95 Kings Quest 5.................23.95
BattleChess Enhanced..........31.95 Languages of the World........47.95
BattleChess MPC...............29.95 Learning Adventure............13.95
Beauty & the Beast (Win3).....29.95 Legend of Kyrandia............54.95
Bible Library (9 Bibles+).....28.95 Library of the Future 1.......49.95
Bibles & Religion.............13.50 ***********************************
Brittanica Family Choice......32.95 * PCJ - 7/15/93 - A 1 Stop Dealer *
Brittanica Select.............32.95 * We meet all legit / noncloseout *
Business Assistant............13.95 * prices in this echo. No hidden  *
Cameron's Fine Art Catalog....49.95 * charges for credit cards. Call  *
Carmen San Diego World Delux..27.95 *  our BBS for our adult title    *
CD Cad v3.7 with manual.......31.95 *  list and download adult.zip.   *
CD Game Pack 1................18.95 ***********************************
Cd Game Pack 2................26.95    All Lines Operate 24 Hours
ChessMaster 3000 MPC..........26.45   Orders/Inquiry - 615-339-0235
Christmas Carol...............28.95   Orders Only    - 800-547-7817
Cinnemania....................57.95   Fax            - 615-479-1047
Classic Collection (4 Pak)....53.95   BBS (14400)    - 615-479-1047

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2164
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/18/93 12:10p
Subj: LOW LOW CDROM PRICES!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

      Miscellaneous (cont.)              Miscellaneous (cont.)

Lifestyles-R & F Cookbook.....37.95 Super Munchers................39.95
Loom..........................24.95 Super/Number Bundle...........39.95
Lord of the Rings.............54.95 Swimwear 1993.............**..28.95
Lovely Ladies.................27.95 Swimwear & More (SVGA)........28.95
MacMillan Dict for Children...32.95 Talking Jungle or Classc.Tale.36.45
Magazine Rack.................22.95 Talking Schoolhouse...........36.45
Manhole.......................35.95 Tempra/Kodak Photo CD Softw...27.50
Mantis........................29.95 The Complete Twain............31.95
Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.95 The Grammy Awards.............36.95
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...27.95 The Holy Bible................31.95
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typng v2.49.95 The Pill Book.................36.95
Mayo Clinic...................28.50 Time Almanac 1990.............16.95
Mega Clip Art.................28.50 Time Almanac 1991.............26.95
Mega Movie Guide..............42.95 TimeTable of Art/Entertainmnt.27.95
Microsoft Bookshelf...........57.50 TimeTable of Business/Politic.27.95
Midi Music Shop...............29.95 TimeTable of History/Science..24.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose.........23.95 Too Many TypeFonts (Laser)....13.50
Monarch Notes.................53.95 ToolWorks Reference Library...26.95
Monkey Island (Secrets of)....24.95 Total Baseball Encyclopedia...26.95
Mother Earth..................27.95 Travel in Europe..............28.95
Mother of All Clipart (23000).23.95 True Crime Stories............36.95
My Advanced Label Designer....42.95 Trump Castle-5 casino games...28.95
My Backup.....................19.95 Ultima I - VI.................35.95
My Label Designer Bundle......42.95 Ultima Underworld 1 & 2.......59.95
National MM Parks Guide.......26.95 USA Today.....................36.95
Nat. Geographic MPC Mammals...26.50 USA Wars-Civil War............36.95
Nautilus Subscription Kit.....28.95 USA Wars-Korea................44.95
North American Fax Book.......46.95 USA Wars-Vietnam..............44.95
North American Indians........46.95 USA Wars-World War II.........44.95
Number Munchers...............28.95 U.S. Atlas MPC................26.95
Officers Bookcase.............46.95 U.S. Atlas / Automap..........28.95
Oregon Trail Dlx Vga..........35.95 U.S. Civics...................44.95
Oregon Trail..................39.95 U.S. History..................27.95
Our House (Family Circus).....42.95 U.S. Presidents...............35.95
Our Solar System(Photos,Data).13.50 U.S./World Atlas..............25.95
PC Gameroom...................27.95 VGA Spectrum #1...............14.95
PC Globe 5.0..................49.95 VGA Spectrum #2...............24.95
PC Sig Games..................23.95 Visions of Saturn.............24.95
Pentaminoes...................34.95 Wild Places or World View.....23.95
Peter Rabbit..................24.95 Wing Commander 2 Deluxe.......57.95
Peter & the Wolf (Win3).......26.45 Wing Commander 2/UUnderWrld...59.95
Pharmicist Guide to Drugs.....26.95 Wing Commander/Secret Missn...34.50
Photos to Remember............34.95 Wing Commander/Ultima 6.......24.95
Pinacotheca MPC...............24.95 Wizard........................19.95
Pixel Garden..................44.95 Women of Venus (Swimsuits)....27.95
Plant Doctor..................37.95 Word Munchers.................28.95
Play w/Lang-Englh/Frenc/Span..49.95 World Atlas MPC...............26.95
Precision Mapping.............83.95 World Atlas...................25.95
Prophone Business 1993........37.95 World Fact Book (CIA).........23.95
Prophone (3 CD Set)...........49.95 World of Flight or Trains.....33.95
Prophone (7 CD set)..........122.95 World Tour (CIA)..............23.95
Publique or Fresh Arte........35.95 World Traveler................13.50
Publish It v2.0 (w/Manual)....24.95 Wrath of the Demon............28.50
Publishers Dream Disc.........37.95
Publishers Paradise...........32.95   Drives/Sound/Software/Speakers
Putt Putt Joins Parade........49.95
P.C. Medic (Fix your PC)......29.50 CD Caddies (Sony Compatible)..4.95
QRZ Ham Radio.................14.95 Chinon 435 Int SCSI + CDs...349.95
Readers Library (2000 works)..28.95 Gravis Ultrasound 16bit.....139.95
Reference Library.............27.45 Koss Headphones..............14.95
Return to the Moon............36.95 Koss Hard Drivers Speakers...32.95
Roger Ebert Movie Companion...42.95 Koss Amplfd Spkrs w/Eqlizer..54.95
Sales Manager's Factomatic....36.95 Labtec Amplified Mini Spkrs..29.95
Schumachers Prague Cookbook...44.95 Labtec Amplifd Stereo Spkrs..44.95
Sci-Fi (Pics/Sound/Files).**..27.95 Mitsumi 350ms w/Int. Kit....195.00
Seals of US Gov't.............44.95 Pioneer 600A (Bare).........819.00
Secret Island Dr. Quandry.....39.95 Pioneer 600A with Kit.......849.00
Secret Weapons of LuftWaffe...25.95 Pioneer 604X (Bare)........1197.00
Secrets-Exec Success Stories..36.95 Pioneer 604X with Kit......1297.00
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...24.95 Sysdos-Parallel port drive..299.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...54.95 Texel DM3024 Int SCSI.......389.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...54.95 Toshiba 3401 Int SCSI.......455.00
Sherlock or Shakespeare.......16.95 Windows 3.1 (3-1/2" Floppy)..39.95
Snap Dragon...................39.95 Windows 3.1 (5-1/4" Floppy)..37.95
Snapdragon....................39.95 Znix Cordless Mouse/Win 3.1..59.95
So Much Screenware (Gifs).**..27.95 Znix Serial Super Mouse......24.95
Softw Jukebox-All Amer Sports.42.95
Sound Effects Library.........24.95 ***********************************
Sound Works (Software)........18.95 * PCJ - 7/15/93 - A 1 Stop Dealer *
SoundWav......................28.95 * We meet all legit / noncloseout *
Space Adventure...............32.95 * prices in this echo. No hidden  *
Space Quest IV................24.95 * charges for credit cards. Call  *
SpaceQuest4/Kings Quest.......34.95 *  our BBS for our adult title    *
Spirit of Excalibur...........38.45 *  list and download adult.zip.   *
Sporting News-Pro Football....36.95 ***********************************
Sports Best on CDRom..........27.95
Star Child....................39.95    All Lines Operate 24 Hours
Stellar 7.....................24.95   Orders/Inquiry - 615-339-0235
Storybook Weaver..............39.95   Orders Only    - 800-547-7817
StoryTime 1 or 2..............24.95   Fax            - 615-479-1047
Street Atlas USA (Windows)....86.50   BBS (14400)    - 615-479-1047

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2165
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/18/93 12:14p
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DR> being hosted in my place of business.  They're here
 DR> to get a fair deal on quality discs... not sit
 DR> around groping the one-eyed trouser trout (which
 DR> must be what goes on at your store, now that your
 DR> wife threw your ass out).  ;-)

Amen brother....

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From: JD BROWN                               Number: 2166
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93 12:36p
Subj: Walnut Creek CD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS> JB>Anyone have the new Walnut Creek OS/2 CDROM, June 1993, available?
MS> JB>I would rather buy from a dealer, (keep you in business) than direct.
MS>
MS> JD,
MS>
MS> We have them in stock as of 7/16/93.  Price is $16.  Give a shout
MS> if you want one.

 Durn. Should have waited a bit longer. Could have saved over $ 7.00
by ordering from you. Bet I will ask you next time.

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From: ERICK GROWCOCK                         Number: 2167
  To: TONY MASSEY                              Date: 07/18/93  4:12p
Subj: Sony CD-Rom for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    Sorry. I already have Sherlock Holmes I and II, and i have a CD of sound
samples also. I was really trying to sell the drive itself. The 5 titles i
mentioned came with the drive.

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From: ERICK GROWCOCK                         Number: 2168
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 07/18/93  4:13p
Subj: Sony CD-Rom for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    Well, i am trying to sell the drive itself. Those 5 titles i mentioned came
with the drive.

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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 2169
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93 11:20a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


  MS> Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main menu and
  MS> download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest prices, newest
  MS> titles, and CD descriptions.


Is this file an ASCI file or is it an EXE file?.... I would like to be able to
read via MAC environment
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 2170
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/18/93 11:46a
Subj: Oxford Eng. Dictionary                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for some pricing information on the Oxford English Dictionary in
CD ROM PC and MAC format.  Would any of you Distributors care to quote what you
would sell this item for?  Thanks
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 2171
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/17/93  2:34p
Subj: C/C++ CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its C/C++ CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
987 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:[phone], EMail:[e-mail]
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From: BRIAN KECK                             Number: 2172
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/18/93  1:21a
Subj: Re: nightowl 9                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ismail.....wanted to thank you for the fast service. Ordered my nightowl
on Tuesday and got it in 2 days, not bad from WA to FL...

Thanks again...and thanks for the GREAT prices, it helps alot with
keeping my costs down for my BBS...
Will be ordering again...

Brian


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2173
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/16/93  4:10p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Ships Nex               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LN>CM>> When are we gonna see an HFS version of BB's? These ISO vers just
LN>CM>> dont cut it!

LN>Not to be ignorant--But is this HFS for the Mac or Amiga--We ask the pressig
LN>house for a more universal format and they are working on this as we speak s
LN>that 1 disc can serve many a platform.

HFS is Mac format. Any disk cut in ISO9660 is readable on any Mac
running a standard Mac driver. Macs have their own driver, much like
MSCDEX. Any Mac cdrom, from Apple CD-300's to Nec 74-84's have a driver
included with them. In addition, there are generic ISO readers on AOL.

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2174
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/17/93  7:22a
Subj: Libel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: 07/21/93  6:51a                       Private: No

TH>-> the thread.  Since you are not the moderator, and I was participating
TH>-> echo according to the rules that state I may warn others not to get r
TH>-> by Terry Woodward, your post means nothing to me or the thread about
TH>-> Woodward ripping me off.

Tim,
I'm not going to respond to Benge. I've already added more heat to this
than I should. Just so that we understand, Benge has his original disk
back, which I returned by Fedex. I haven't ripped him off, lied to him,
or defrauded him. I refused to go through with the swap after his
childish outburst. He may believe anything he wants.
My next action will be to see relief under Policy Four, which guarantees
Fido members protection from harassment. I will file a formal compliant
with my RC.

TH>-> By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off?
TH>p.s.  Look up the word "libel".

Thanks for pointing it out to him. That's my next step.

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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 2175
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 07/17/93 10:01a
Subj: PC CDs - Magazine Subscri               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Best I can do is $34 + $4 shipping. I will take checks, but won't
-> ship until it clears. COD requires $4.50 additional. Let me know.
->
-> Chris

I went ahead and ordered the one for $29.  Thank you for your reply tho.

J.P.
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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 2176
  To: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                         Date: 07/17/93 10:02a
Subj: Night Owls 9.0                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Only if you live next door ;)

J.P.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2177
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 07/19/93 11:46a
Subj: Pork-Ware 1 Review                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I tried to get one of the dealer's to send me a copy of the Pixure ROM  CDs for
evaluation (a la Pork-Ware I and Digital Dreams) but no one bit  on my offer. I
won't buy image CDs anymore unless either (a) I have full  return priviledges
after a reasonable "assessment period" (say two weeks  ARO) or (b) I have
reasonable expectations that it is truly "new". With  repsect to (b), only one
or two producers currently have my trust in that  regard.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2178
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 07/19/93 11:54a
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams"              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You make some good points, Dave, including the cost of using GDS that I  wasn't
aware of (not being a CD producer). As for GIFReed itself, I still  don't like
it. It wasn't necessary to use almost 1/2 screen for  redundant titles or
instructions. Increasing the resolution would help  much for images less than
1" square and, as you point out, use of a lot  of space for little/no vlaue
add. Point-and-click is cool, sure, but  without giving the creator of the
catalogs any more flexibility that  GIFReed offers (fixed title sizes, fixed
"thumbnail" sizes), it's  usability for creator and end user alike is
diminished IMHO. Yes, I  really like GDS - no crippling or nagging even in the
unregistered  versions, although there is some additional functionality
avaliable in a  higher priced version.  Each to his own.....<EOT>
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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 2179
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93  7:23a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Is your catalog available by FREQ?


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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 2180
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/19/93  1:15p
Subj: TERRY WOODWARD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>TH> moderator


BJ>Boy, I'm glad you've got this job and not me! Hang in there....

I think it is funny.  I've had the same problems for over 8 years.  I
still think it is funny, for Tim to undergo these stages.

BOB
:-)

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From: BOB KELLY                              Number: 2181
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/17/93  5:15p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>In a msg on <Jul 13 06:30>, Bob Kelly of 1:275/16 writes:

MS>MS>MS>MS> I have a copy of The 7th Guest I would like to trade for other
MS>CD's.
MS>Lets see.... I paid $55.00 for it. 1/2 price would be $27.50
MS>add in the shipping to VA. and we are looking at $31.00
MS>delivered.

Michael, you have a deal! Give me an address to send my check, and it will be
on its way! Thanks...

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 2182
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/18/93 11:32p
Subj: Windows                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*****************************************************************************
************************  CD-ROM International  *****************************
*****************************************************************************

CD PowerBox v1.0 - An excellent collection of shareware designed with the
                 BBS SysOp in mind.  Has both a DOS user interface as well
                 as a Windows GUI.  Released 01/93.  $19.

CD WinBox v1.0 - This is THE BEST Windows shareware disc yet!  Has a true
                 Windows GUI for easy file viewing and manipulation.  Just
                 released (06/93)!  $19.

SPECIAL OFFER FOR FIDONET CUSTOMERS:

        Get both discs for only $34!  Please mention that you saw the ad in
        FidoNet, because these discs are regularly sold for $34 each.

                           * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
CD-ROM International       * Call our BBS for the latest catalog, or   *
[phone] (Orders)    * file request CATALOG from 1:344/79.  The  *
[phone] (Voice)     * catalog has been updated with new titles  *
[phone] (BBS/Fax)   * and lower prices.                         *
Cash/COD/Credit Cards      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


... Clinton Cruise Lines - Taking America for a Ride!

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2183
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/19/93  4:30p
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the following software, etc for sale. Closet cleaning time... I
wanna get RID of this stuff! Prices include postage/shipping within the
normal US.

Ultima VII - The Black Gate
  Upgraded to new version for bug fix. 3.5" disks.  $28
Ultima VII clue book - Key to the Black Gate.  $8
Ultima Underworld clue book - Mysteries of the Abyss.  $7
Ultima VI - The False Prophet.  5.25" disks.  $23
Energizer Bunny for Windows
  Screen saver, wallpaper, guest appearances. 3.5" disk.  $7
Adobe Type Manager for Windows
  Came bundled with WordPerfect for Windows. Docs & 3.5" disk,no pkg.$7
IMSI VirusCure v2.41
  Came bundled with Alpha 4. Docs & 5.25" disk, no pkg.  $7
Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
  Came bundled with SoundBlaster audio card. CD ROM in jewel case &
docs,
  but no pkg. Still in sealed plastic wrapper. CD ROM drive reqd.  $28
Grammatik 5 for Windows
  Both 5.25" and 3.5" disks.  $28

Unless otherwise specified, software comes in original package with all
manuals, maps, etc.   If interested, leave msg here, or call
913-888-5201 ext.257 (M-F 8-4 Central, or leave voice mail).

Might consider trade if you have something nifty on CD ROM that I want.
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From: DONALD MACKAY                          Number: 2184
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/19/93 12:00a
Subj: CD Caddies                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can anyone please give me some prices on CD caddies. Most of the prices
up here north of the 49th are really quite outrageous.

thanks

ttyl /usr/dan
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2185
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 07/19/93 12:12p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Dave, I have looked at a *lot* of images on other adult CDs and while
you are correct that only a small percentage of them are really
full-screen, DD's images go to the extreme in the opposite direction:
too many of them are just too small, as I said, "...by my standards".
BTW: I agree with your implied definition of "full screen". That is,
"all image" and not wide colored borders, big BBS logos, etc.

I don't understand your refernce to 12 cents/minute for downloading
costs, but that's not the point. I buy image CDs so I won't have to d/l
them from a BBS.

As to graininess of the images, if your staisfied with the quality of
the images, then you're a happy owner. As I said in my review: "...what
follows is one person's opinion."  Others on the echo have agreed with
my assessment of graininess. I admitted that I didn't know where it came
from; I speculated about a lot of causes. If you say apparent sharpness
is likely due to "pixel editing", that's OK by me. In that case I'd say
DD's producers should have done some (or a lot) of that, too.

Unsharp images wasn't the only thing I didn't like about Volcano, but
again, if others are happy with it, that's fine by me.

Yes, you're right. After the "numerical" part of my review, I did
progress into more subjective areas. I said so in my earlier post when I
disclosed the procedure that I was going to use and said it again in the
review itself, as I recall. As to DD being all original material, I
can't attest beyond what I said in my review. At least one person on
this echo, Terry Woodward I think, voiced the opinion that it wasn't all
original. You'll have to take the matter up with him if you need/want
further discussion.

As far as "easier to use interfaces", I'm in partial agreement with you.
I think the idea of point-and-click from a catalog is really neat. It
eliminates worrying about directories, trying to remember file names,
etc. As you know, I don't particularly like GIFReed's version of it. As
to alternatives to it and GDS, I understand that Rel 3 of BB will have a
similar interface via yet a third product (forgot the name just now).
Lee Noga has promised me a copy for eval. and you can believe that it'll
get the same working over that GIFReed got. Stay tuned...

I agree that we'va all had enough of the "knock-off" (no pun intended)
"me-too" adult CDs. I applaud DD's producers for recognizing that and
trying (Terry Woodward's remarks notwithstanding). IMHO, they didn't
make it. As to being legal, I agree that's a sysop's concern. Not being
a sysop (as I stated), I didn't consider that aspect in my review. I
would point out that many adult CDs have as many if not more images than
DD that are unquestionably "legal" and it would seem (again, to a
non-sysop type) that a discrete editing of the infamous FILES.BBS file
could make any "problem" files unreachable - so I don't think this is a
selling point for DD.

I'm lost as to your reference to "41% duplication rate" and whether or
not I find that acceptable. First, no I wouldn't and hence the comment I
made in another post about being very wary about so-called "new"
offerings. Secondly, if you're referring to Pork-Ware I, I think I said
in my review of it that it probably didn't offer the owners of more than
one other adult CD much in the way of newness.

Dave if your users are happy with DD, I'm glad for you and them both. I
didn't like the disk and said so....exactly once (well, now twice). I
haven't tried to dissuade others from offering it, touting it, or buying
it, nor will I. As other CDs are offered for my review, they will get
the same review treatment, good or bad. Readers of those reviews, like
you, are welcome to their own opinions.

As both you and I know, this "discussion" isn't exactly on topic so this
is <EOT> from my end.
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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2186
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/19/93  1:15a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 * Forwarded from "CDROM_SALE"
 * Originally by Michael Benge
 * Originally to Mike Shannon
 * Originally dated 18 Jul 1993, 23:03

MB> By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off?

 MS> You keep saying that.  Out of curiosity, what would the actual
 MS> monetary damages be in this case?  Can you give us an accurate
 MS> damage assessment for this "ripoff", expressed in whole dollars?
 MS> I think we'd all like to know if your prolonged character
 MS> assassination is actually warranted in relation to your
 MS> out-of-pocket expenses.

Those "damages", as you call them, would amount to approx. $20-$25.  We were to
each ccover our own shipping, approx $2.90, which I did, so say no more that
$27.50 max., $22.90 min.
This has not been a "prolonged character assasination", as you say.  It is
simply my right to try and prevent myself or anyone else from being on the
receiving end of a bad deal.  BTW, I thought you did'nt want to be involved.

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2187
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/19/93  1:13a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: 07/21/93  6:55a                       Private: No

 -> the thread.  Since you are not the moderator, and I was participating
 -> echo according to the rules that state I may warn others not to get r
 -> by Terry Woodward, your post means nothing to me or the thread about
 -> Woodward ripping me off.
 TH> That rule is news to me...

I have always observed postings from disgruntled participants pass thru the
echo.  I have never seen a moderator, including this conference, accuse anyone
of "whining" because of it.  If you permit it, it may as well be part of the
official rules.  If not, a clarification from the source would probably be in
order. -> By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off? TH>
p.s. Look up the word "libel".

I am well aware of the definition.  I believe I would have no problems proving
my statements as absolutely true, and not "libel", as you request.  If Terry
Woodward feels he has been wronged, instead of the other way around, he has my
address if he feels the need to attempt to sue me.  I have no fear of that, as
he was in the wrong.

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2188
  To: JOHN ROBINSON                            Date: 07/19/93  2:44p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JR> I say, CUT HIS FEED.!!!!

Unfortunately, for you apparently, your opinion of the matter will not have my
feed cut.  Since I have not broken the rues of the echo, your displeasure with
my postings is irrelevant when not directed directly to the moderator, who
would then in turn determine if my postings were in violation of the echo
rules.  If you have a valid complaint, Tim Helton may be reached via netmail at
1:133/515.

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From: LEN BUSSEY                             Number: 2189
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/18/93  4:55a
Subj: RE:adult Cd                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> We have all three in stock.  Prices:   Storm 1 $25, Storm 2 $28,
> Storm 3 $29.  Let me know if you're interested.  We can ship same day.

Yes I am interested in them.  Could you basically tell me the difference
between the three sets and in your opionion which one do you think is
best?  I do not have a credit card, so when I decide which one I want I
will have to mail you a money order.

                                        Len

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2190
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/19/93 11:22p
Subj: This Weeks CDROM Specials               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** PCJ Computing WEEKLY SPECIALS *** MUST BE ORDERED BY JULY 27 ***
*** Orders Only 800-547-7817 / Inquiries (24 Hours) 615-339-0235 ***

Wing Commander/Ultima 6 (Discontinued-get it while you can)........23.95
American Business Phone Book..17.95 Software Vault #2 (ALL '93!)...19.95
X11R5-GNU.....................19.95 ** Buy 4 Vivid Titles at 44.95 each
Seedy ROM Movie Disc..........34.95 and receive your choice of 1 Free:
DR. DOS v6.0 (floppy).........24.95 Moving Fantasies, Visual Fantasies,
Hobbes OS/2...................14.95 Adult Reference Library, Physical
Source Code...................19.95 Therapy, or Hot Pix v4.0.

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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 2191
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/19/93  1:11a
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Dave, for what it's worth, DD is NOT original scans. Almost all are f
-> commercial magazines. Many show moire patterns that come only from
-> scanning magazines. Many are duplicates of scans from other boards, l
-> Garlique and Nitelog. It isn't a bad disk but I don't think it would
-> hold up in court.

 Thanks for the info Terry, Sometimes I have to go by the Label, Try to
keep up with all of the info from the echo but miss some...

 David McSpadden CD-WORLD


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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 2192
  To: RICHARD NIXON                            Date: 07/19/93  1:13a
Subj: CD-WORLD 4                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I would like to place an order w/ you for 2 caddies at $4 each.
-> Is the above address correct? And check paybale to CD-WORLD?

 Hi Richard,
  All info is correct Check will take 10 days to process, Money order
sent same day as recieved!!

 David McSpadden CD-WORLD


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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 2193
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/16/93 11:47p
Subj: Cdt = cd's, travel                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I was able to read your listing of CD-ROM titles well, but the seven messages
it took was a little much.  You might consider a two column format to condense.
 It would be  easier to handle.


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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 2194
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/17/93 11:59a
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You do not offer the lowest price on Night Owl 9 as your ad states.


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2195
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/18/93  9:59p
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to David Mcspadden <07-16-93 08:20> Terry Woodward wrote:

TW>> Dave, for what it's worth, DD is NOT original scans. Almost all are
TW>> from
TW>> commercial magazines. Many show moire patterns that come only from
TW>> scanning magazines. Many are duplicates of scans from other boards,
TW>> like
TW>> Garlique and Nitelog.

Heard PC PIX 1 and 3 got nailed by Playboy couple of weeks ago and they wanted
$1500.00 a scan--They decided not to sue the publisher but instead is going
after the BBS's --Most the scans came from the above BBS's you mentioned--Well
over a 1,000 scans on those discs's by those boards--
Hope DD didn't come from the same mags--

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: MIKE GUIDRY                            Number: 2196
  To: BENJAMIN KEEN                            Date: 07/19/93 10:56p
Subj: Atari CD software                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (17 Jul 93) Benjamin Keen wrote to All...

 BK> Hi!
 BK>      My boss is an *Atari* dealer (the things I do for money ;->), and
 BK> one
 BK> of the things he's thrown at me is to find a way to hook a SCSI CD up
 BK> to
 BK> an Atari. We have a DMA/SCSI converter, but I need to know if anyone
 BK> knows
 BK> of an Atari CD-ROM driver or if any dealers have Atari-compatible
 BK> CD-ROM
 BK> drives/drivers.  Another thing is a searching program for CDs. I
 BK> understand the High Sierra or ISO 9660 disks usually include some sort
 BK> of

There is a fidonet Atari ST echo. You ought to find a board carrying it and
post a message there.


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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 2197
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 07/20/93  9:41a
Subj: CDT = CD'S, TRAVEL                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Haven't seen your name around in a while....
gimme a call at 405-672-1708.
BOB
:-)

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2198
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/20/93 12:05p
Subj: get a life!                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BT> yes my spelling and grammer are all wrong..........who cares?


Well, I think *YOU* should care, Bubba. There's an old saying:
"Perception is reality." which, loosely translated, means that folks
will react to situations as they perceive the situations to be, WHETHER
OR NOT such perceptions are factual. In the case of language, poor
skills are seen (perceived) by most to reflect ignorance.  This is
perhaps most easily seen in the opposite case where a superior command
of language is often mistakenly taken to reflect intelligence or
learning. One's about as bad as the other.

It may not be your fault that your language skills are as they are -
only you can fully understand that. However, if you have the means and
opportunity to better them (or any other skill for that matter) and
don't, then that *IS* your fault.

Since this is *WAY* off-topic, this is <EOT> for me.
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From: JOHN BRODERICK                         Number: 2199
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/20/93  7:15a
Subj: Re: Old 600ms CD-ROM driv               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Chris Kuefler to John Broderick <=-

 JB>         Hey if they're external I'll make an offer on one.

 CK> sorry, both internals


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        Hey Thanks any way!!

... He's got Blue Wave fever and it's spreading through the message bases!
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From: DUNCAN MARKLEY                         Number: 2200
  To: DON KULHA                                Date: 07/19/93  9:04p
Subj: MAC CDs FOR $ALE                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DK > folks do support Macs with PC based machines. If you can be patient a lit
DK > longer I'm working on something......


Great! I've been waiting all this time. I can wait longer. Thanks!

Duncan
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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2201
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/19/93  3:09p
Subj: Benge debacle                           Refer: NONE
Read: 07/22/93  7:29a                       Private: No

TH>-> Besides, I've got three models to shoot in the next week and I don't
TH>-> want to be distracted. <grin>.

TH>I heard that!  If you need any on-site help, I volunteer ;).

The new one is 19, strawberry blonde, and cute as a bug. One of the
other ones developed an attitude problem. So I shot her...
You've probably noticed that I don't deal with attitude problems very
well...
When are you coming down? I'll line up some models and we'll do a couple
of cdroms in a weekend.

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From: HENRY ARIAS                            Number: 2202
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 07/20/93  9:35p
Subj: Re: For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

SP> HA> greyscale stuff... I wound entertain $25.00 for it and about
SP> HA> $3.00 bucks to ship the thing.... Let me know .... Later <Henry>
SP>
SP> I'll take it. Just let me know where to send a check if that's ok.
SP>
SP>Steve Phillips
        Ok, my address is as follows:
                Henry Arias
                1400 Gandy Boulevard Apartment 1604
                St. Petersburg, Florida 33702

Let me have your address as well and I can start to pack it up and get
ready to beam it out.. Thanks .. Henry

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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 2203
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/19/93  2:31a
Subj: Re: NIght Owl 9.0                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On Mon 19-Jul-1993  2:09a, Bubba Therrien wrote:
BT> -> Can anyone beat the 29.00 for night owl 9.0?? if so give me the # to
BT> ->

BT> jesse
BT>      call  Groupware, I purchased 2 of them at $25 A PIECE shipped
BT> darn good price ..

BT> GROUPWARE
BT> [phone]

BT> bubba
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Thank's will give em a call.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 2204
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 07/19/93  8:06p
Subj: $15 OFF CREAM OF THE CROP               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 Introducing a special offer to save you $15 off  the  price  of a
  Cream of the Crop shareware cd.   Cream of the Crop is  currently
  selling for $29 (as all of you on my mailing list already  know).
  If you have any non-adult cd shareware or game disc that  you  no
  longer want, just send it to me for a $10 discount... AND include
  a check or money order for $20 to also save  you  the  $5  c.o.d.
  charge.   In a few days you will receive your brand spanking  new
  copy of "Cream of the Crop" ...the highest quality  selection  of
  files available on a single cd.

                            Terry Blount
                            P.O. Box 36
                     Bayou La Batre, Al. 36509

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From: GARY ESTEP                             Number: 2205
  To: CHRISTIAN SMITH                          Date: 07/20/93 10:58p
Subj: MAP CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Yes There is a cd rom disk called usa map and cost's about $90.00 If you
would like to buy mine for $60.00 leave me a message

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2206
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TK>  >CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-SIG
#12....................28.00
TK>  >CD Winbox (New!)..............29.00    PC
Gameroom...................28.00
TK>MS>Please give me your feedback on this also.

TK> completely readable.  Even when quoted and moved over 3 spaces, it
TK>still fits snugly

Thanks Tim.  8)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2207
  To: GARY SHADE                               Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GS>Mike your copy was readable. I got your catalog by the way. We'll be
GS>talking.

Thanks for the feedback Gary.

.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2208
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KR>When did you send off my order?  It'll be two weeks tomorrow, still
KR>haven't seen or heard of it...

KR>I know, I know, probably just screwed up my discount (grin).

Kirk,

They went out on July 13.  The reason for the delay was that we sold our
initial batch of Chestnut CD's, and I was waiting for 450 more.  Most of
them finally arrived on the 13th.  Sorry for the delay - you should
hopefully have them by now.  (Your discount is still intact  8)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2209
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MW>I would like to order the owl-9 how I do that?...I like to save the cod's
and
MW>don't have a credit card?

Manny,

If you would like to pre-pay by check or money order, you can send it to
our address below.

Thanks,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2210
  To: PHILIP RUSSELL                           Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: cd price list 2/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PR>I am interested in a number of titles - particularly the educational
PR>ones. What are your airmail fees on 20+ CDs to R.S.A. ?

Two ways to go:  AIR PARCEL POST INSURED (our risk): $45.00
                 AIRMAIL SMALL PACKET (your risk): $40.00

PR>How long does it take for post to get here ?

Last report I had from South Africa was 6 shipping days, but it varies
due to customs.

PR>What method of payment should I use ?

We take international VISA, MASTERCARD, and AMEX + domestic DISCOVER.  Or
you can prepay by bank check or money order in U.S. funds, drawn on a U.S.
bank.

PR>Where in the States are you, in case I have a friend go across soon ?

Yakima, Washington - about 160 miles SE of Seattle.

Feel free to call, fax, or BBS us any time!
voice 509-457-2892 / fax [phone] / BBS 509-457-0206

Bye,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2211
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: Small problem                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>even find New York or Chicago! All other functions work perfectly. Is this a
MS>bad disk or am I doing something wrong?
MS>Please call me at 1-800-428-2835

Michael,

I'm all sold out on those right now, but am expecting more in soon.  I'll
pop one in and check for you when it gets here.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2212
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: MORE CD'S ON SALE!!!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>under BlueWave but (as you can see) is with MegaMail. Sorry for the
BJ>hassle I put you through, Mike (looking sheepish - shuffling feet (:|

Hassle me again Bob, and I'll give your VISA number to my wife and let
her go nuts on the Home Shopping Channel.   8)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2213
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: DISCOUNT CD'S 1 of 2                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC>MS>     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY
DC>MS>     PURCHASE!!

DC>Mike, what Shareware disc are you giving away for only $6.00?  It
DC>wouldn't be anything silly like the O'Connor Original Shareware 1992
DC>would it?  (Smile!)  I would hate to think that someone is still pawning
DC>those things off.....

Well, gee . . . umm . . . gosh,  <pause>.  I used to sell the OS92's, but
I can't find any more, so this week it's Phoenix 3.0.  I guess lots of
people were really getting ripped, paying 6 bucks for 6000 shareware
programs on that silly Original Shareware 92 huh?  Whew....a tenth of a
penny each!  That's inflation for ya!  I blame Clinton.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2214
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: DIGITAL DREAMS: $29!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
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DC>MS> O               DIGITAL DREAMS IS HERE . . . . ONLY $29.00!

DC>If you are talking about the Digital Dreams from Ero Tek, there is
DC>nothing from McHenry on it, and there is no apparent connection to that

Yes, I know.  You're quoting an ad from about 3 weeks ago.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2215
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: Chestnut cd's...$10! 1/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DK>MS> 5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
DK>  >    thesauruses, word-processors, style/syntax/spell checkers,
glossaries,
DK>  >    crossword solvers, foreign language tutors . . . on and on!

DK>MS>  ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
DK>  >  any Chestnut purchase!

DK>I'll take this, where do I send a check!

Dave,

Shipping address as follows:

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2216
  To: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/52                Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SF@9> MS> Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main
SF@9> MS> menu and download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest
SF@9> MS> prices, newest titles, and CD descriptions.

SF@9>how about making this freqable, mike?  :)  you know how us sysops hate to
t
SF@9>our bbses down.

All in due time my dear!  BTW, Thanks for the order today.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2217
  To: MICHAEL MULCAHY                          Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MM>  MS> Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main menu and
MM>  MS> download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest prices, newest
MM>  MS> titles, and CD descriptions.

MM>Is this file an ASCI file or is it an EXE file?.... I would like to be able
t
MM>read via MAC environment

It is in .ZIP 2.0 format, with plain ASCII files inside.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2218
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: WE HAVE A WINNER!                       Refer: NONE
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    * NEWS BULLETIN * NEWS BULLETIN * NEWS BULLETIN * NEWS BULLETIN *
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WE HAVE A WINNER!

Congratulations to Vernon Melton Jr. of Greenville Michigan!  Vernon was
one of the participants in our big Pier 2 CD-ROM giveaway, and was fortunate
enough to have been selected from a field of 643 entrants as the winner in
our contest.  The contest participant base was made up of Starvector
customers and postcard entrants who submitted their names between June 22,
and July 17 1993.  Mr. Melton's was one of the postcard entries, which
proves that you don't have to purchase anything in order to win in one of
our drawings!  Again, congrats to Mr. Melton, and his Pier 2 CD-ROM is on
the way!  For those who might be interested, we have these fantastic Pier 2
shareware CD's in stock and shipping at the discount price of $35.00.  Be
on the lookout for our next drawing . . . we might call your name!

                            Starvector Software
                                PO BOX 8160
                              Yakima WA 98908

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2219
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
                                pg. 1 of 2

   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

TITLES INCLUDE:

1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,
   poetry, humor, cookbooks, American history and founding documents, novels,
   short stories, home improvement guides, computer tutors, and more!

2. WINDOWARE - An excellent disc packed with tons of useful programs for
   Windows 3.0 and 3.1, including typefonts, font installers, games, home
   and business applications, education, wallpaper, utilities, etc.

3. SOUND SENSATIONS! - Adds multimedia excitement to your system!  Includes
   tons of sound effects, music files, jukeboxes, voices, sound clips,
   music voices, etc. in a variety of file formats.

4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities, debuggers,
   troubleshooters, and other programming tools for C/C++, dBase, Clipper,
   Basic, Assembler, AI, Unix, OS/2, Pascal, Forth, and more!

5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
   thesauruses, word-processors, style/syntax/spell checkers, glossaries,
   crossword solvers, foreign language tutors . . . on and on!

6. DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES - Exciting arcade action games: Space wars,
   shoot-em-ups, auto racing, sports, casino gambling, horse and auto
   racing, and more. The fast action will entertain you for years!

7. TOO MANY TYPEFONTS! - Countless typefonts in all formats:  TrueType,
   ATM, Adobe Type 1, WFN, First Publisher, Ghostscript, HPL, etc. Also
   includes typeface modifiers, font managers, downloaders, & utilities.

 ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
 any Chestnut purchase!

            >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2220
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/20/93 12:40a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    2/2               Refer: NONE
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             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
                                pg. 2 of 2

   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

TITLES INCLUDE:

8.  CLIPART GOLIATH - Over 10,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats, plus
    some in color-TIF/PCX, MAC, GIF, etc. Files can be imported to virtually
    every desktop publishing program! Subjects include: Americana, Animals,
    Business, Computing, Entertainment, Food, Holiday, Music, People,
    Religion, Science & Medicine, Signs, Sports, Cartoons, & many more.

9.  HAM RADIO 3.0 - Excellent collection of HAM and SWL programs and data!
    Includes packet radio, satellite communications, frequency lists,
    equipment service, design, mods, logging, news, FAX, FCC, & others.

10. COLOSSAL COOKBOOK - Over 4000 recipes, far more than the "Joy of
    Cooking".  Includes excellent recipe cross-reference and search!
    Includes health/nutrition guides, ethnic and regional recipes, meal
    planning, low-cholesterol diets, cooking instructions, & more!

11. BIBLES & RELIGION - All popular New & Old Testament versions, Book of
    Mormon, Talmud portions, lexicons & concordances, study guides,
    organization membership & fund-raising programs, etc.

12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for all
    applications, with an emphasis on games and Windows programs.  Subjects
    include business, clipart, communications, BBS, database, education,
    finance, games, graphics, religion, sound, utilities, Windows, & more!

13. OUR SOLAR SYSTEM - Exciting NASA and observatory photos of the planets,
    moons, comets, earth, and celestial phenomena!  Includes star locators,
    planetarium programs, astronomical data, voyage simulators, + tons more.

 ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
 any Chestnut purchase!

            >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: PAUL NELSON                            Number: 2221
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/20/93  8:08p
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

<<***** On 07-20-93, MIKE SHANNON wrote to ALL: *****>>
>             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
>                                pg. 1 of 2
>
>   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
>                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

Mike, I faxed you an order tonight for 2 $10 CD's (ClipArt Goliath,  OUR
SOLAR SYSTEM ).  Please include in a catalog if you have one and if possible
post a reply here re: shipping date.  Also, I'm looking for a good
encyclopedia for my computer.  I am considering Encarta and would invite
your recommendations. I have two kids (10 & 13) who will use it a bunch.  I
run Windows 3.1 on a fast 486 with lots of memory and a great Video setup.

                    Thanks for your help...

                    Paul Nelson





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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 2222
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/20/93  8:11p
Subj: cd's shipping to canada????!!!          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy Chris,

18 Jul 93, Chris Kuefler writes to Kirk Rawnsley:


 KR>> When did you send off my order?  It'll be two weeks tomorrow, still
 KR>> haven't seen or heard of it...
 KR>> + Origin: We are Not Saints, Calgary Alberta [phone]

 CK> Hmm I ordered some to. WIth us being in Canada.. that might be a problem.
 CK> Did you order adult cd's? Does anybody know what the border guys do if
 CK> they catch these?

None of the titles I ordered were adult.  From what I understand, it
usually takes a week or so.  It's been over two so far...

 CK> Hmmm my tagline doesnt show it, so just for the record, Im in Fort
 CK> McMurray! CJK

What's the weather up there like these days?  You gettin nothing but
rain?

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: DAVE KALWISHKY                         Number: 2223
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/20/93  8:06p
Subj: Mitsumi's for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DK> Just thought I'd ket you know that you can purchase the LU005 drivers for
 DK> $187...

CK> And if you convert that to Canadien you are looking at a price of $243.1

Well I'm NOT canadian.

     -=> Dave <=-     Mon  07-19-1993


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From: DODD HOWELL                            Number: 2224
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93  6:11p
Subj: 5-20-93 cd-rom prices                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD-Rom DISK FOR SALE

                *SHAREWARE TITLES*


Title                   Cost

Night Owl's 7           $27
Night Owl's 8           $28
Night Owl's 9           $30
Pier 2                  $30
So Much Shareware 2     $27
So Much Shareware 3     $30
Phoenix Version 3.0     $23
Gigabyte Gold           $29



              Progressive Systems

              Voice: 803-497-6525
              BBS  : 803-497-6645
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2225
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 07/21/93 12:10a
Subj: catalog request                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LF>Please send a catalog to:
LF>Lois Frankel
LF>(I already have catalogs from Starvector and Crazy Bob)

With catalogs from Crazy Mike and Crazy Bob, what more do you need?  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2226
  To: JD BROWN                                 Date: 07/21/93 12:10a
Subj: Walnut Creek CD                         Refer: NONE
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JB>MS> We have them in stock as of 7/16/93.  Price is $16.  Give a shout
JB>MS> if you want one.

JB> Durn. Should have waited a bit longer. Could have saved over $ 7.00
JB>by ordering from you. Bet I will ask you next time.

That'll teach ya!  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2227
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 12:10a
Subj: BOTTOM LINE PRICING                     Refer: NONE
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Here's my dilemma:  I'm pooped.  I have a new BBS that takes much of my
time, and it's all I can do to spoonfeed the bulletin board, run the
house, (wife's away) water the dog, feed the lawn, and take care of my
growing customer base.  Because of this, I haven't had a chance to sit down
and update my 2-column "monster" CD price list with all the new titles we
keep getting.  Come to think of it, I haven't had a chance to sit down,
period, so here's my proposal:

1. Get your BEST price on any CD-ROM title (or titles) advertised in this
echo by our competitors.

2. When you're ready to order, give us a call . . . . If we stock the
titles, we'll beat our competitors' advertised prices by 5%.  (No closeout
items please)

3. It's that simple.

With over 290 titles IN STOCK, we will probably have what you want, but
if not, I'll make my best effort to get it for you.  Unlike some dealers,
we STOCK what we sell, and usually have 95% of our advertised titles in
stock on any given day.  Night Owl 9: In stock.  So Much Shareware 3: In
stock.  Pier 2: In stock.  Global Explorer: In stock.  (Even weird ones,
like: The Sporting News, Eagle Eye Shareware, World Vision, Otherware:
ALL in stock)  So don't be afraid to give us a try if you have never
ordered from us before!  Starvector would love to add your name to our
growing list of satisfied customers!

Well, there it is in a nutshell - Shop around, get your best price, and
call us for a 5% savings!  Now please, no phony phone quotes, confederates,
or any of that stuff.  I've already been through that nonsense, so let's
keep this on the straight and level, and Starvector will give you some
CD-ROM deals like you've never seen before!  Who knows, if I like this
approach, I might just stick with it permanently.  It would save you guys
from having to read the "monster" every week!  8)

Mike Shannon
Starvector Software

p.s.  Yes, Night Owl 9 qualifies too!

    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39
    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

---
 * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Geraldo!

--- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2228
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 12:10a
Subj: SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 - $28               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

___________________________________________________________________________

                    BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
___________________________________________________________________________

Soundware Coll'ctn..$27   So Much Shareware 3.$28   QRZ Ham Radio.......$19
Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16   Hamware 1993........$28   Game Arena..........$15
Eagle Eye Shareware.$25   Up All Night........$20   Precision Mapping...$88
Fantazia Fonts......$29   Business Assistant..$15   Learning Adventure..$15
M/M Computer Tutor..$30   Sound F/X Library...$29   Cookbook Heaven.....$29
Int'l Graphics Libr.$33   Night Owl 9.........$37   The Holy Bible......$24

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

---
 * SLMR 2.1a * E-Mailing frequencies are open Captain.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2229
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93  1:53a
Subj: 2 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

***************************************************************************
                  2 BRAND NEW ALL ORIGINAL ADULT CD'S!!!
***************************************************************************

SOUTHERN BEAUTIES....................................................$35

        * Over 1000 GIF's in 1024x768 resolution from ORIGINAL slides
        * Also has over 300mb of 24-bit TrueColor images
        * Over 65 top models
        * SoundBlaster front loader
        * Menu-driven
        * 675mb in all
        * FILES.BBS in root directory describes each model


AMATEUR MODELS.......................................................$35

        * 650mb of full color SVGA images in two formats: 1024x768 GIF's,
          and TrueColor 24-bit 16.7 million color TIFF's
        * Centerfold style layouts from around the world
        * Completely original scans from professional photographs
        * Includes Monster Media's "VIEWCD" custom viewer interface
        * FILES.BBS in each directory

SPECIAL!  BOTH DISCS.................................................$69

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

---
 * SLMR 2.1a * I am Clinton of Borg: resistance is taxable!

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From: JOHN BRODERICK                         Number: 2230
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/21/93  2:18p
Subj: Re: Terry Woodward                      Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 -=> Quoting Michael Benge to John Robinson <=-

 JR> I say, CUT HIS FEED.!!!!

 MB> Unfortunately, for you apparently, your opinion of the matter will not
 MB> have my feed cut.  Since I have not broken the rues of the echo, your
 MB> displeasure with my postings is irrelevant when not directed directly
 MB> to the moderator, who would then in turn determine if my postings were
 MB> in violation of the echo rules.  If you have a valid complaint, Tim
 MB> Helton may be reached via netmail at 1:133/515.

STOP I say let dead horses lie. So one person lost some money
one person has been draged through the street by that person
and now every one is bickering over nothing.
just don't post anything else about this!
simple sulution eh!
let's see if you guys can be man enough to do so.


... I know a good tagline when I steal one.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: BRIAN COFFEY                           Number: 2231
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/21/93  5:50p
Subj: order rec'd                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Got the Ham CD yesterday.  The wife liked ProPhone so much, I had to put a CD
in her machine so she wouldn't be tying-up the BBS machine all night!

SoftwareVault II is a hit with the BBS users.  I'll be ordering more from you
soon, probably on a quarterly basis.

... Another satisfied Starvector customer!

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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 2232
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/20/93  8:09p
Subj: Re: NEW CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


LN>As one of the author's let me answer this one--*YOU BET*, they are all
  >300-600DPI, no junk, no dupes--11,000+, and the book which will picture all
  >these will be out end of July-August, but the disc is available now.


Hi Lee, I just bought that CD from Mike Shannon. Please let me know when
the book becomes available and how to get a copy. Thanks.
 ■ QMPro 1.50 22-2345 ■ MSI HQ! BBS ■ 805-395-0650 Home of QmodemPro!


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From: MIKE PETRO                             Number: 2233
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 07/20/93  8:43p
Subj: NIGHTOWL 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No


BH>To some people, the echo's are small claims court.  They just get
  >carried away in their little puddle of self inflicted power, and think
  >they run the world.

Hi Bob, You are right. I just got carried away with that statement about
small claims court. It's just frustrating to flip through over a hundred
messages only to find a large portion of them are vindictive strikes at
some individual. I can fully appreciate making the rest of us aware of
an unscrupulous person or dealer. I don't like seeing a bunch of
bickering and slander. It's just not necessary.
 ■ QMPro 1.50 22-2345 ■ PCDOS&MSDOS&CP/M&WINDOWSI'LLFIDDLEWITHOS/2WOULDN'TYOU


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From: BRAD RILEY                             Number: 2234
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/22/93 12:08a
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I want the latest and hottest Adult CD.  I want info on dupes and types of
files and price.

I want the latest and best Shareware Disc.  No old files and latest version of
files, not 6 versions of the same files.  I believe you get what you pay for
and I want the latest and best.

My main request is lowest amount of dupes, highest quality files and latest
version of files and pictures.

I am ready to buy now.

Please do one of the following:

1. Fax me your bid at 816-746-4747
           or
2. Netmail me at 1:280/23
           or
3. Leave me a messgae here.

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From: KIRK RAWNSLEY                          Number: 2235
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/21/93  5:45p
Subj: cd's shipping to canada????!!!          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy Chris,

My CDs arrived from Starvector today, two and a half weeks after
ordering.  I found out what the delay was, customs indeed had opened
them up, probably somebody copied them as even the CDs themselves were
no longer wrapped.

          Kirk Rawnsley
          Rules are for Other People

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From: KEITH RITCHIE                          Number: 2236
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93  9:46p
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 I just got the Winbox Cd from Starvector and I am having a bear of a time
getting it to work. It keeps lookingg for a Project1 file that is nowhere to be
found. I checked the power.cfg file and it has the correct info. Help... it
seems like a good CD from the Dir listing but it is worthless if you can't
access it.
                        Thanks, Keith

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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2237
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/20/93  9:31a
Subj: Libel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TW> anything he wants. My next action will be to see relief under
 TW> Policy Four, which guarantees Fido members protection from
 TW> harassment. I will file a formal compliant with my RC.

A policy complaint filed by you on this matter will have little weight. You
have never asked me to stop posting to you, ad only recently did the moderator
issue a directive for me to stop posting on the topic of the trade you refused
to complete.  Unless you make it clear to someone that you feel harassed, there
is no way they can read your mind and do what you wish.   It truly amazes me
that you have the gall to threaten this, when you should simply send me the CD
you offered.  You could have easily sent it instead of mine in the FED-EX
envelope, but since, as you personally said, you did not like the disc I sent
you, things worked out well for you, giving you, as you profess to believe,
reason to mail my disc back instead.  The statement that you stole from me
still stands. Granted I have my disc, but you convinced me you would complete
our trade, I paid for shipping to have my disc delivered to you, and waited for
you to send yours in return.  Instead you shipped mine back.  In as much, you
caused me to lose a total of $2.90.  Since you did so after the deal had been
made, your action, once again in MY opinion, as well as the opinion of GA law,
were fraudulent.  That is where my statements have originated.  I am due a CD
rom, I have yours here.  The right thing for you to do is send me the PC II rom
and $2.90, so that I may mail you your Physical Therapy disc back.  If you
refuse to do this, fine, I will continue to feel the way I do.  Since the
moderator has directed me to stop warning other people of MY problems, there is
no more I can do about the matter.  THIS will be the final post on this subject
by either of us.  You feel harassed?  Fine, my postings cease with this
message. Unless you take advantage of my final offer to allow you to make good
on this trade, any additional postings by you, concerning me, would be
considered harrassing also, as they would serve no useful purpose.  YOU could
correct a lot of ill will and do the right thing by completing our deal as you
agreed.  If your word is no good, little else matters.  Have a good day Terry.
Finis



 * MKRead v1.01 * Perot of Borg:  Resistance?  Now that's just sad.


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2238
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/22/93  6:16a
Subj: SCSI CDROM Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00 with caddy.

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer.

205-837-5053




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From: SULTAN QAMAR                           Number: 2239
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/21/93  4:09p
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IA> FYI they are not manufacturer but distributor. TTYL

IA> --- DB 1.53/002199
IA> * Origin: GroupWare-Voice:1-800-373-0628 Fax:[phone]

Was wondering if you had any Pioneer 6 disc Changers.  I need a used one.  If
you have on or know where abouts I can get one, please netmail me 1:221/206
with all the info.  Your 1-800 number isn't available form Canada.

                                  Sultan
* SPITFIRE v3.3

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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 2240
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/19/93  4:18p
Subj: Wierd Science                           Refer: NONE
Read: 07/23/93  5:44a                       Private: No

 TH> But have you been in CDs longer than the dude who did the Magnum discs?
 TH> (G&D&RLH).. ;)

       I don't know if Bob has (he can answer for hisself). He's got to be a
bit brighter in any case...who, besides a charter member of Thom's fan club,
would set up their disks so you have to use XARC? I'm finally removing the last
of the Magnum disks from my system and removing the banner proclaiming
"To use the files off CD's #4 & #5 you must download and use XARC.EXE".

-DCK


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2241
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 12:06p
Subj: Trade adult CD for Adult CD ?           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

─  I have the Adult CD Volcano, and would like to trade it for another adult
cd, If interested, Please let me know.


                   .....|<evin

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From: LARISSA KOHLER                         Number: 2242
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/20/93  8:55a
Subj: Walnut Creek Games CDROM                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi.  We ordered the new Walnut Creek Games CDROM in January of this year.  At
the time they told us it would be coming out at the end of February, which was
fine with us.  Well, February came and went, and they told us it would be april
or may because they were having trouble getting authors and copyrights figured
out...that was fine with us as well.  Well, at the end of May we called them
and they said that they had it all put together and would be publishing it VERY
soon.  However, we didn't receive a copy.  In the middle of June we called them
again..and they said that they'd had problems with the quality of the cd, and
that a different publisher was having to put it out.  What i was wondering was
this:  Has anyone else gotten their cd yet?  I'm not particularly worried, as
they have been very courteous and our other 3 cdroms from them have been
exceptional, but I am wondering...  Thanks!
     Larissa

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From: ANDREW HUIGE                           Number: 2243
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 12:11p
Subj: looking for a diask                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

─All,
    I heard of a disk with well over 450 files, I am looking for a disk to
start a bbs with, so if you have any suggestions where I can pick one up or if
you are selling a disk that meet's or beats this discription, call me. It will
be greatly appreciated
                   Boss

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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 2244
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/19/93  5:03p
Subj: NighOwl 9                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I was ready to buy it for 37.00...but them I hear someone said:it can be bough
for 25.00 a piece..? Any true on that ???????????

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From: RICH JACKSON                           Number: 2245
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/20/93  8:25p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 > If you consider a father of three, who is a property manager a
 > kid, you must be in your nineties by now, eh?  Must explain the
 > grumpiness.


Up to your old tricks Michael??  How did you go from no kids to three kids in
the last year?

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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 2246
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/19/93 12:32a
Subj: LATEST CD LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS> TO ALL READERS . . . The following is a section of my ad.  Please reply
MS> back as to whether or not it is legible:

MS>  ■ SLMR 2.1a ■ I can't steer without my beer.

 * SLMR 2.1a * Ok here, your ad was clear! <g>


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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 2247
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/12/93  2:42p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                       Four    Star    Enterprises
                     Custom CDROM production Service

  Our CDROM Recorder is in, and ready to serve you!   We can produce
  a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive overnight!

     o Complete confidentiality assured.
     o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media
     o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
     o Reasonable Rates. (We will meet or beat any offer)
     o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
     o Great for BBS Files, Document Imaging, and Permanent Archival!
     o Great for Multimedia Presentations / Demos.
     o Free UPS Red label shipping to the Continental U.S.

 Pricing for Custom CD production:

o Up to 527 Megabyte CD's.  $1 per Megabyte. $85 Minimum, $139 Maximum.
  $50 for each duplicate after paying Full price for the first. o Up to 650
Megabyte CD's.  $1 per Megabyte. $90 Minimum, $144 Maximum.
  $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first. o CD
Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee. o Free UPS Red label shipping (2 day Air)
to the continental US.


   Data formats Supported:           Software Supported:

o QIC-36 DC600/6XXX Streaming Tape.  o Sytos Plus   o Mountain Filesafe o QIC
40/80                          o Everex Tape  o PCTools Backup o Floppy (At
additional cost)        o Fastback 3.0 o 4mm DAT coming in August! o Hard Disk


Terms:

  Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
  checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are not
  set up to accept your Visa/Mastercard yet.


*** ** *** ** *** **   Special   ** *** ** *** ** ***
 For the months of July and August, all orders
 qualify for a 10% discount from our CURRENT pricing.
 Offer ends August 31, 1993.
*** ** *** ** *** **   Special   ** *** ** *** ** ***

For further information, File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node 1:239/900.0 at
V.32bis speeds.

 517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM - 6:00PM Monday - Saturday)
 517-865-6066 (Customer Support BBS)
 1:239/900.0 (Fidonet)

COMING SOON!  o Compact Disk AUDIO Production!
              o 4mm DAT


Revision Date: 07-05-93

===
 * OLX 2.1 * Me? I'm just a harmless, lovable little fuzzball!


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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 2248
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/18/93 11:39p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                 ****  Four-Star Enterprises  ****
                       Custom CDROM Service

  Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
  produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
  overnight!

   o Complete confidentiality assured.  Your data will NOT be pilfered.
   o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media.
   o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
   o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
   o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
   o Great for:  BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
                 Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
   o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
   o Free UPS Blue label shipping to the Continental U.S.
   o COMING SOON!  Compact Disk AUDIO Production!  COMING SOON!

Pricing for Custom CD production:

o 527 Meg:  o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 139MB
            o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
            o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o 650 Meg:  o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 144MB
            o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
            o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.

   Data formats Supported:               Software Supported:
 ---------------------------           ----------------------- o 60MB
DC600/6XXX Streaming Tape.  o Sytos Plus o Mountain Filesafe
                                   o Everex Tape

o QIC 40/80  (Colorado Jumbo 250)  o PCTools o Colorado Software

o Floppy (At additional cost)      o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools

o Hard Disk

** 4mm DAT, and 125/250MB 5.25" Streaming tape will be available SOON **

Terms:

  Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
  checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are
  not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.

*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
 For the months of July and August, all orders qualify
 for a 10% discount from our CURRENT pricing.  Offer
 ends August 31, 1993.
*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***

Notice:

Four Star Enterprises will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite", or
pirated software collections on CDROM.  Such activity is morally WRONG and
illegal.  If this is your intention, please do not waste my time or yours.

For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.

Loyd Craft
Four Star Enterprises
517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM - 6:00PM Monday - Saturday) 517-865-6066 (Customer
Support BBS) 1:239/900.0 (Fidonet)

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2249
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 07/23/93  6:28a
Subj: cd's shipping to canada??               Refer: 5680
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> ordering.  I found out what the delay was, customs indeed had opened
-> them up, probably somebody copied them as even the CDs themselves wer
-> no longer wrapped.

Exporting adult material to Canada can be a hassle.... There must be
500 people working at the border censoring the material that enters the
country.  Me thinks that it's not ANY government's responsibility to
force-feed morality, thru censorship, on its citizens.  But then again,
censorship allows the Canadian government to maintain CONTROL over their
people - CONTROL that allows its political leaders to retain their
CONTROL.... CONTROL that perpetuates to TAXing thing.

Ironically, one of the world's few remaining adult CD ROM manufacturers
is located in Canada.... And this plant is 1/2 owned by the Canadian
government!  Go figger.

tim
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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 2250
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/22/93 12:32a
Subj: Toshiba CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* On 07-15-93 in a message to All, Michael Konor said:
MK> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.

Mike,

Can you tell me what the maximum capacity CD-ROM this drive can handle.  I'm
having a problem with mine (the one I purchased from you). I'm getting the
following error:
"File read/write error-drive may be open or disk unformatted"

I've tried everything I can thing of (other controllers, other machines,
switches/jumpers, I taken every none essential card out of the machines, etc),
the only thing I can think of is that the CD has too much stuff on it, and the
cd-drive cannot access it.

Any suggestions?  (Or could this unit be defective.)

Thanks,
Don Nelson

BTW:  I just received my CD order, so this is the first time I've had a chance
to use the drive beyond list directories (on a borrowed disk).

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From: BOB HAY                                Number: 2251
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 10:39p
Subj: E & M Disk                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

I am looking for someone who has the Electricity and Magnetism CD-ROM.  Pricing
and ordering information appreciated.

thanks,


Bob

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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2252
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 10:59p
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the following CD-ROM's I would be willing to trade, especialy for
adult CD's.

1.Loom
2.The Secret of Monkey Island
3.Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
4.A Line in the Sand

Israel M. Gomberg
330 Kitty Hawk Rd. #2806
Universal City, TX 78148
[phone]


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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 2253
  To: PAUL NELSON                              Date: 07/22/93  9:51a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (20 Jul 93) Paul Nelson wrote to Mike Shannon...
 PN> >   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of
 PN> popular Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!
 PN> Mike, I faxed you an order tonight for 2 $10 CD's (ClipArt Goliath,
 PN> OUR SOLAR SYSTEM ).

 Hello Paul.  Well Mike really pulled one off this time.  I just purchased
 the exact same CDs, and they arrived Tuesday.  What a GREAT collection &
 for only $10.oo each too.  Pssss, don't tell everybody you have a CD full
 of clipart as they will be bugging the hell out of you for files, that is
 those w/o CDRom Players.  I am sure you will like them I know I do and its
 an EXCELLENT value for the bucks.  BTW, I have no connection w/SV other
 than a as customer.

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From: BENJAMIN KEEN                          Number: 2254
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/22/93 12:15a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 07-19-93, Boris Osadciw50ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI
Complete-$269.00
>------------------------------------

What are the stats on that NEC? Do you have a Mac driver for it? I don't
need a SCSI card, but I do need to know if it has two Centronics 50 (or
DB-25) ports on the back. I heard the older portable NECs had only one
SCSI port on the back. If you have any other external SCSI drives (new or
used) let me know.
-Ben


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From: BENJAMIN KEEN                          Number: 2255
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/22/93 12:15a
Subj: CDROM_SALE ANTICS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 07-19-93, Michael Benge calling in response to each of my messages,
and mailed my disk back,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>------------------------------------

If he mailed your disk back, then you *haven't* lost anything except for
your time. Quit wasting more of it by beating this [thoroughly] dead
horse! It's not like it was a floppy that he copied. Few people have 650
MB of space lying around.
-Ben


 This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated.

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From: GENE FULL                              Number: 2256
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 07/21/93 11:36p
Subj: Summer Spectacular!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Do you all have a catalog?  If you do, my address is
Gene Full
2800 11th Ave.
Vienna, WV  26105

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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 2257
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/21/93  6:46a
Subj: Windows                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DR>         Get both discs for only $34!  Please mention
 DR> that you saw the ad in
 DR>         FidoNet, because these discs are regularly sold for $34 each.

Gee, I paid $39 not $34 when I bought them from ya just a week or too ago.


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From: JOE BURKE                              Number: 2258
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 07/20/93  5:37a
Subj: So Much Shareware 3 Revie               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

No thanks that's fine. I wanted on that runs on dorinfo.def without having to
run a converter. I've found most use door.sys.


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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2259
  To: DAVID MCSPADDEN                          Date: 07/22/93  7:27a
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DM>-> Dave, for what it's worth, DD is NOT original scans. Almost all are f

DM> Thanks for the info Terry, Sometimes I have to go by the Label, Try to
DM>keep up with all of the info from the echo but miss some...

I know it's tough. There's no way I'd be a vendor right now. It would
help if publishers of cds told the truth. But, then that's true of
movies, restaurants, aluminum siding, used cars..

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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 2260
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/21/93  4:37p
Subj: Re: Software sale/trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'll take Adobe Type Manager for windows if you still have it. Can send
moneyorder...let me know. I'm located in Moore, OK (sub of OKC). Thanks

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From: KENNY RICE                             Number: 2261
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/22/93  7:18p
Subj: HCEAP CD-ROM Drive                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for a cheap  ROM drive that is O/S-2 and Novell compatible... any
one have such a thing out there they are willing to part with cheaply..

Later
RiceMan

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From: DON NELSON                             Number: 2262
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/22/93  1:04a
Subj: Toshiba CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MK> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.

Mike,

RE:  Concerning my problem with the cd-rom.
Let me add, that if I try to copy the file off the cd-rom, it usually does it,
but only after several (3-10) retries.  This is a GIF disk, I'm viewing
directly off the disk.  I'm verifing that the material is acceptable for the
BBS.

If you can, give me your voice number, or call me [phone] anytime.  I'm
in the mountain time zone, but I don't get home until late.

Thanks Again,

.dn
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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2263
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 07/21/93  7:21a
Subj: Re: nightowl 9                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MA>IA> > your store, now that your wife threw your ass out).  ;-)

MA>IA> I don't think it is very nice for you to mention anything

MA>Yeah Dave... it's his business what he does with his "trouser trout".

Maybe you kids can all take this soap opera to netmail and let the rest of
us read about selling CDROM products.

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2264
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93  7:21a
Subj: Wanted: 7th Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm interested in buying a complete version of Seventh Guest,
used, shipped, for $35.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2265
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/22/93 10:59a
Subj: 2 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS>                  2 BRAND NEW ALL ORIGINAL ADULT CD'S!!!


Howse 'bout sendin' me a pare of them on 'proval?  (;>  (i.e. same deal
as last time)
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2266
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/22/93 11:06a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> 10. COLOSSAL COOKBOOK - Over 4000 recipes, far more than the "Jo
 MS>    Cooking".  Includes excellent recipe cross-reference and sear
 MS>    Includes health/nutrition guides, ethnic and regional recipes
 MS>    planning, low-cholesterol diets, cooking instructions, & more


I'll take one of these, too, please.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2267
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/22/93 11:07a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    2/2               Refer: NONE
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 MS> 11. BIBLES & RELIGION - All popular New & Old Testament versions
 MS> of
 MS>    Mormon, Talmud portions, lexicons & concordances, study guide
 MS>    organization membership & fund-raising programs, etc.


Wasn't too thrilled with this one. What I'm looking for is a
bible/religion CD that has a bundled "front end" search engine with it.
More along the lines that an encyclopedia CD would have. What'cha got??
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2268
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/22/93 11:45a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes, before 3.0.            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Jason Taynor <=-

 >>    Anyone got the above?  Not the newer one with a bunch of stuff
 >>    removed? Also, I've seen it advertised for $29, any dealers

 BO> Yep, we have the older version in stock ! If your intersted, give us a
 BO> call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad to assist you further.

Boris:

Are you saying that you still stock the *ORIGINAL*  Rel 1.0 BB? If you
have any of THEM at $29, I'd be interested in hearing about it.

... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2269
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/22/93 11:49a
Subj: Re: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Patrick Rosenheim to All <=-

 PR> PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600
 PR> Mastercard & Visa accepted. Posted on 07/20/93, @ 08:12.
 PR> PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE
 PR>
 PR> AFTERDARK  CDX - After Dark Trilogy                    37.00
 PR> ALLBEAUTIE CDX - All Beauties                          26.00
 PR> AMATEURMOD CDX - Amateur Models                        30.00
 PR> DIRTYTALK  CDX - Dirty Talk                            41.00
 PR> EXOTICGIRL CDX - Exotic Girls                          27.00
 PR> FOXES      CDX - Foxes                                 29.00
 PR> HOUSEOFSLE CDX - House of Sleeping Beauties            43.00
 PR> WICKEDPWIN CDX - Wicked Photo CD Windows               48.00

Would be interested in finding our more about these titles. Do you have
descriptions, data, etc. on them?

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2270
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/22/93  8:16p
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

Hogwash.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2271
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/22/93  8:24p
Subj: Bottom Line Pricing                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PCJ also stocks most of what we sell.  We can generally get anything we have
advertised if not in stock within 3-4 business days to ship.  So, go ahead and
get your price, then call Starvector and get your 5% off price, then call us
back, and we will give you an additional 1% off of the Starvector price on
items that are normally priced and not specials or closeouts.  PCJ tries our
best to be your low price leader to save you money wherever possible.


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From: MEL ORECKLIN                           Number: 2272
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93  6:47p
Subj: Cd's by phone...                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Looking for BBS brag-points?
Can't seem to fill up your 100 CD-ROM Jukebox? Getting nice Christmas cards
from your local telephone company?

This won't help, but, it will waste a lot of time that you would otherwise
spend worrying about it.

Shareware CD-ROM titles available from SoftRent, Inc.:
------------------------------------------------------
  AB20 Amiga May '92 (Amiga Only) ........ $25.95 *
  AmiNet (Amiga Only) .................... $25.95 *
  CICA Microsoft Windows '93 ............. $25.95 *
  Games 1993 ............................. $27.95
  GIFs Galore ............................ $25.95 *
  Hobbes OS/2 June '93 ................... $25.95 *
  Hobbes OS/2 Nov. '92 ................... $21.95 *
  Info-Mac CD-ROM Aug. '92 (Mac Only) .... $49.95 *
  Just Games ............................. $19.95
  LAN Master ............................. $34.95
  Monster Disk 1992 ...................... $54.95
  Night Owl's v7 '92 ..................... $35.00 * BBS
  Night Owl's v8 '93 ..................... $42.20 * BBS
  Night Owl's v9 '93 ..................... $59.95 * BBS
  PC-Sig Library 11 ...................... $39.95
  PC-Sig Library 12 ...................... $75.95
  Simtel20 May '93 ....................... $25.95 *
  Shareware 1993 ......................... $27.95
  Shareware Avalanche .................... $43.95
  Shareware Gold II ...................... $48.95
  Shareware Heaven ....................... $27.95
  Shareware Studio II .................... $28.95
  Videos for Windows (.AVI files) ........ $36.95

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-----------------------------------------------------
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    300k/s sustained transfer rate
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    ISO-9660 / High Sierra / Rock Ridge / CDROM-XA /
    Photo-CD (multi-session) / and more!
    SCSI / SCSI-2 interface
    SCSI Controller NOT included

             ... DM-3024 (Internal) ..... $615.00
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C.O.D.:   add $4.70 (CDN)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2273
  To: PAUL NELSON                              Date: 07/22/93  1:10a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PN>>             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
PN>>                                pg. 1 of 2
PN>>
PN>>   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
PN>>                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

PN>Mike, I faxed you an order tonight for 2 $10 CD's (ClipArt Goliath,  OUR
PN>SOLAR SYSTEM ).  Please include in a catalog if you have one and if possible
PN>post a reply here re: shipping date.  Also, I'm looking for a good
PN>encyclopedia for my computer.  I am considering Encarta and would invite
PN>your recommendations. I have two kids (10 & 13) who will use it a bunch.  I
PN>run Windows 3.1 on a fast 486 with lots of memory and a great Video setup.

Yes Paul, I got it.  Thanks very much.  The CD's shipped out today (7/21),
and a catalog is included.  As for Encarta, I've heard very good things
about it, but so far have not put any in stock.  I may do so however if the
price comes down to a reasonable level.  I think the nicest one we carry
right now is Compton's Interactive MPC.  Great looking layout, and a nice
interface that will let your kids interact with the question/answer process.
In stock at $107, or we'll beat your best price in here by 5%.

Give a shout if I can help you with anything else!

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2274
  To: LEN BUSSEY                               Date: 07/22/93  1:10a
Subj: adult Cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LB>> We have all three in stock.  Prices:   Storm 1 $25, Storm 2 $28,
LB>> Storm 3 $29.  Let me know if you're interested.  We can ship same day.

LB>Yes I am interested in them.  Could you basically tell me the difference
LB>between the three sets and in your opionion which one do you think is
LB>best?  I do not have a credit card, so when I decide which one I want I

Len,

Storm 1 was one of the very first adult CD's, and is "slightly" quirky in
that there are 20 or 30 files that cannot be read, but that's really no
big deal in my opinion.  #1 has GIF's, adult games, text file stories, and
animation.  Storm 2 is comprised of all GIF's which have been compressed,
or "GIFlited".  Banned in Japan.  Storm 3 is the best of the series, with
newer images and over 4500 GIF files.

Shipping is a flat $4 when you decide to order.

Take care,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2275
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/22/93  1:10a
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING IS HERE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD

TITLE:  Precision Mapping

DESCRIPTION:  A complete, detailed map of the United States, with search,
edit, draw, and print capabilities.  ZOOM in on any city, right down to
the zip code, area code, or even street!  Look up addresses, measure
distances, plan travel routes, print laser-quality maps, and clip images
for import to other programs!  All in a user-friendly environment!

SPECIAL FEATURES:  Full CAD features with draw, edit, and control over
all presentation aspects, including text, alignment, color, line width,
etc.  OUTPUT to file (raster or vector), screen, dot matrix printer,
laser printer, or HPGL plotter.  DYNAMIC ZOOM in/out/all.  Window,
pan, scale, to any address, city, zip, or area code.  CLIP all or any
part of an image to a .PCX file for import into your favorite word
processor or DTP program.

FREEBIE:  Includes the latest edition of the American Business Phonebook
with over 10 million business listings, absolutely FREE!

REQUIREMENTS:  EGA or higher monitor, DOS 4.0+, 550K free RAM, 2MB of
expanded memory, 10MB of (temporary) hard drive space, and any ISO9660
CD-ROM drive.  Mouse recommended.

PRICE:  $88

Mike sez . . .
"If you think Street Atlas was great, wait til you see this one!  Better,
more elaborate features, and it runs under plain ol' DOS!  This mapping
program even has "Shannon Road", which is a little dirt road my dad and
uncles carved out when they planted their apple orchard.  How's that for
thoroughness!"

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 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

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From: STEVE ELLIOTT                          Number: 2276
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/22/93  4:45p
Subj: MS MPC Works                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

One quick question, do you ship COD?
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From: STUART ROSS                            Number: 2277
  To: VICKI FLETCHER                           Date: 07/21/93  4:15a
Subj: Re: CHESTNUT CD'S...$10! 2/2            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

VF> Dear Mike,
VF>   Do you have a catalog or brochure of the CD's you have available?
VF> I sure would like a copy if you do.....
Yea, me too......
                        Jim Ross
                        6597 Kentwood Dr.
                        Holly, Mi.   48442

Thanx...

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From: STUART ROSS                            Number: 2278
  To: STUART ROSS                              Date: 07/21/93  4:19a
Subj: Re: CHESTNUT CD'S...$10! 2/2            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

VF> Dear Mike,
VF>   Do you have a catalog or brochure of the CD's you have available?
VF> I sure would like a copy if you do.....
SR> Yea, me too......
SR>                         Jim Ross
SR>                         6597 Kentwood Dr.
SR>                         Holly, Mi.   48442
SR>
Oh, yea.... I just bought this CD-ROM, and I'm looking for all sort's of
title's. If your a dealer and have a catalog or such, send to the above name
and address.
Thanx.....

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 2279
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/21/93  7:06p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <18 Jul 93  19:41:39>, MICHAEL SELLS (1:390/5.4) writes:
 >I am not really looking for a adult CD, but, I would ship it to you for
 >$40.00. If OK with you Call me at 1-504-893-7279 or post here.
I have sent you a check. The game is not for me, it is for a friend and the
check you will get is from him. I will personally guarantee it, however if you
wish to wait for it to clear, I understand. Thanks!


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2280
  To: JASON BURKHART                           Date: 07/22/93  9:35a
Subj: Re: Texel                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Hey about that Texel drive. Are we thinking of the same
>>    drive???? If so it has the cables and a 16-bit controller???
>>    I'm just curious cause everywhere else I've checked into has
>>    offered a MUCH higher price. I'll be calling you pretty soon
>>    to order the drive. Later

Yep, same drive and yes they are brand new not refurbs !!

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2281
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93 12:32a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2282
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/22/93  8:31a
Subj: Re: SHERLOCK HOLMES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EB>     800ms!  I bet that's it.  WAY to much info commin' down the pipes
EB> with this CD for an 800ms Drive.

        Well it has a sustained data throughput rate of 150k per second. I
gathered that would be the only meaningfull thing. But I have also tried it
with a CD disk cache and it still doesn't work!
                                                                        Edward

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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2283
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/22/93  8:32a
Subj: SHERLOCK HOLMES                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CB> If you mean Consulting Detective #1, I ran it fine on an 800ms Hitachi
CB> (CDR2500).  There was a one second hesitation for every 20-30 seconds of
CB> full-motion color video, but it worked.  I was running the real disk, not
CB> a

        I was running it off a CD disk, so I guess the CD is screwed up from
the manufacturer. Oh well, that's okay though! Thanks for the info!
                                                                Edward

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2284
  To: ROBBIE WILKES                            Date: 07/21/93 11:22a
Subj: Lost address                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RW>Am looking for the fellow that I agreed to purchase the Digital Dreams CD
  >from.  I have been awaiting my new set of checks, and can't find your
  >number or address.

If you can't find him, I have one used copy for sale for $20 plus $2.90
shipping.  [phone]

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2285
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/21/93 11:40a
Subj: New CD-Rom Prices                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Computer Works is now offering the following prices on these CD-Roms:

Big Sky Rom             $48     Software Vault 2        $32
Night Owl 9             $39     Monster Media 1         $39
So Much Shareware 3     $39     Digital Dreams          $32
CD Winbox               $29     NightWatch Interactive  $49
Up All Night            $21     Shareware Studio 2      $26

Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!      Visa & Mastercard Accepted
[phone] Voice    [phone] BBS - Online Ordering

                                                Jim...
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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2286
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  3:02a
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed it.
Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
                   -TWITCH the Vorpal Bunny-


... I was *this* close to seeing elvis. But my shovel broke.
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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 2287
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/22/93  6:38p
Subj: Re: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> MW>I would like to order the owl-9 how I do that?...I like to save the
> MW>don't have a credit card?
> If you would like to pre-pay by check or money order, you can send it to
> our address below.
> Thanks,
> .\\ike
> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892
> (VOICE)
> VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over
Well, thanks for reply, but I am waiting to hear from someone who said he can
sell it for 25.00:)....I am sure you will understand...
Thanks anyways...

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From: DAVID BALNITES                         Number: 2288
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  2:32a
Subj: CD File Descriptions                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 * Forwarded from "CD-ROM Talk"
 * Originally by David Balnites
 * Originally to All
 * Originally dated 22 Jul 1993, 4:18

I am thinking of buying Night Owl 9 and i was wondering if there is a utility
that will convert the PCBoard type multi-line Descriptions into the new
RemoteAccess 2.00g1 type multi-line Descriptions.

I do know that the descriptions have to be all on 1 line to use the import
function with RA.

                        David



... (A)bort, (R)etry, (W)hackitonthesideofthemonitor!
___ TagDude 0.70 [Unregistered]

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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 2289
  To: BRIAN COFFEY                             Date: 07/23/93  7:46a
Subj: ORDER REC'D                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Got the Ham CD yesterday.  The wife liked ProPhone so much, I had to
-> put a CD in her machine so she wouldn't be tying-up the BBS machine
-> all night!

Brian, just a note of warning about ProPhone. I've been using it for
about 6 months and have found the search engine to be VERY buggy. Some
towns in the database will not be found by name but can be found by zip
code. There are also GAPING holes in the data for example it finds only
two pawn shops in Phoenix. It is quite week data wise in California and
Florida.

It is the best thing of its kind out there as long as you are aware of
its short comings.

Just wish someone would produce a CD that does what ProPhone is
advertised to do.

James
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2290
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/22/93  9:19a
Subj: Wish list                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>I need the most recent in shareware and a CD-ROM drive (preferably ne
JL>that is MPC Compliant and be 480ms or faster....

OK, Mitsumi is 350ms.....

Pier 2 is brand new,
Night Owl 9 is too,
Software Vault II,
all three for you,
and this ain't no jive,
your price J.P. is $75
add the Mitsumi drive
for another $175
So, for a mere $250
you get a combo that's nifty!

Pat

BTW, here's regular prices....

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE

 MITSUMICDD CDD - Mitsumi CD-ROM drive                 189.00
 CDSMONSTER CDS - Monster Disc                          38.00
 MONSMED93I CDS - Monster Media '93, Vol. 1             35.00
 CDSNTOWLV9 CDS - Night Owl shareware CD, Version 9     39.00
 SOFTWAREV2 CDS - Software Vault II                     30.00
 PIERS2     CDS - The Pier Shareware CD-ROM #2          39.00
 UPALLNIGHT CDS - Up All Night                          29.00

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 * RM 1.0 00391 * See complete product list in the FOR SALE Conferences...

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 * RM 1.0 00391 *


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From: DAVE KALWISHKY                         Number: 2291
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/23/93 11:58a
Subj: Chestnut cd's...$10! 1/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

@>1:3407/101

DK>MS> 5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
DK>  >    thesauruses, word-processors, style/syntax/spell checkers,
glossaries,
DK>  >    crossword solvers, foreign language tutors . . . on and on!

DK>MS>  ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
DK>  >  any Chestnut purchase!

Ok Mike, $10 is coming at ya!!

     -=> Dave <=-     Thu  07-22-1993


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From: BOB KELLY                              Number: 2292
  To: BENJAMIN KEEN                            Date: 07/21/93  5:38p
Subj: HERE WE ARE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BK> BK> TM>BK>SQ>    Cheers BBS in beautiful Cambridge, Ontario, Canada is
BK> BK> TM>BK>SQ>    proud to be carrying this echo !!
BK> BK>
BK> BK> TM>BK>And I'm so proud you told us about it...
BK> BK>
BK> BK> TM>And I'm so proud that you're so proud that Cheers told us
BK> BK> TM>about it!!!
BK> BK>
BK> BK> My pleasure! Anyone else out there proud about this?
BK>
BK>     I'm proud too!! I'm also proud that we have the same
BK>initials!!!

Who said what above?

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From: CHARLES HELD                           Number: 2293
  To: CHRISTIAN SMITH                          Date: 07/21/93  7:49p
Subj: Map cd                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>I heard there is a CD that has every street in the US on it. IF anyone
>knows what it is can you tell me the cost of it.

    It is called Street Atlas USA.  Any of the dealers here should have it - I
have done business with Doug Carpenter and Mark Arbacchi (sp?) and had good
luck with them.
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From: STEVE PHILLIPS                         Number: 2294
  To: HENRY ARIAS                              Date: 07/22/93 10:22a
Subj: For Sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks, I'll put the check in mail today.

My address is:

Steve Phillips
14608 Buckton Lane
Matthews, NC  28105

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 2295
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  5:22a
Subj: Soundblaster turn on?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anyone know the command to turn on the Soundblaster card so that you can
run audio through it like a CD or microphone?
someone posted a command to turn on the card without running an actual
program, but I did not write it down. Please repeat the post if you
still have it , or anone that knows it please leave a message.


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From: DUNCAN MARKLEY                         Number: 2296
  To: BRAD RILEY                               Date: 07/23/93  7:29a
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BR > I am ready to buy now.
BR >
BR > Please do one of the following:
BR >
BR > 1. Fax me your bid at 816-746-4747
BR >            or
BR > 2. Netmail me at 1:280/23


Maybe we can come and set them up for you as well....
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From: MICHAEL BENGE                          Number: 2297
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/23/93  8:39a
Subj: CDROM_SALE                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> Good luck.

Thanx, Carlos.


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From: JOE SZAJEWSKI                          Number: 2298
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 07/22/93  6:22p
Subj: N OWL                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** Quoting Jim Lambert to Michael Kanko dated 07-12-93 ***
> MK>Hi, does anyone here know about how much the new Night Owl 9 is?
>
> Anywhere from $29 to $49, depending on who you ask! ;)  Computer Works
> will match all advertised prices.  Be sure to quote your source.
>
>                                                         Jim...
> Computer Works
> CD-Rom Sales!
> [phone] Voice
> [phone] BBS

Jim,

    How are you on Hard Drives and the CD Rom drives themselves. ??
If I come up to your store from Kent County Delaware, how much to install the
drives?  I have a 386 sx20 motherboard in a non table top case.  I'm looking
for a full load of simms for my empty extension board .... :)

                                            Questor
                                            Joe Szajewski
                                            Rd #2 Box 226a
                                            Harrington, DE 19952-1214



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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2299
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  1:16a
Subj: BUY 3 GET A POWERPAK FREE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          -------------* 3 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!! *--------------

               BUY THIS:                             GET THIS FREE:
  *-----------------------------------*       *--------------------------*
  |   ADULT 3-PAK SPECIAL:            |       |                          |
  |                                   |       |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0     |
  | 1.  ALL BEAUTIES (gif, fli, gl)   |       |     REVISED EDITION      |
  | 2.  HOT PIX 5                     |       |                          |
  | 3.  AMATEUR MODELS (gif, tiff)    |       |     650+MB OF GREAT      |
  |                         *-----*   |       |        SHAREWARE!        |
  *-------------------------| $89 |---*       *--------------------------*
                            *-----*

 Get the three newest and hottest adult CD's on the market for the super
 low price of only $89, and receive a PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware CD
 absolutely free!  This offer is for a limited time only, so hurry!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: KEVIN OYAMA                            Number: 2300
  To: DAVID MCSPADDEN                          Date: 07/23/93  5:58a
Subj: CDWORLD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


Thanks for another speedy order filling!  Received my package two days after
you put it on the pony express - no problems on this end in Portland, Oregon.
Sorry, but I'll have to refer my friends to you as well - hope it won't make
you too busy!

KKO

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2301
  To: ELLEN COTTON                             Date: 07/23/93  4:43p
Subj: Re: Software sale/trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Yep, I still have Adobe Type Manager, and will set it aside for you.
Send money order to me at PO Box 11319, Kansas City, MO 64112-0319 and
I'll ship to you as soon as received. Thanks.

-hk
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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 2302
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/20/93 12:36a
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting BUBBA THERRIEN to MICHAEL KELLY <=-

 BT> Michael Kelly , what is your major Malfunction?????????

    I have no problem at all.

 BT> why do you pick apart the spelling in my messages for???????

    It annoys me to read illiterate messages posted in any echo.  Unless
    you are from Arkansas, there is simply no excuse.  I get tired of
    hearing "its just computers, i ain't needs to spel it rite!"  Most
    individuals that gravitate towards computers as a hobby are generally
    better educated and certainly more willing to learn than those who do
    not.  However, your posts are not helping sustain my theorem.

 BT> Is your life that boring????

    Not at all.  I travel the world, was a military officer who fought in
    the Gulf War and now work in the business world.  I find life rather
    exciting.

 BT> get a life dude.....

    I believe I already do.  "dude?"  Are you from the Left Coast by any
    chance?  The name "Bubba" must be a real topic of conversation out
    there at cocktail parties.


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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 2303
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 07/20/93  6:39a
Subj: BUBBA for sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting BUBBA THERRIEN to MICHEAL KELLY <=-

 BT> yes my spelling and grammer are all wrong..........who cares?

    Your parents, teachers and loved ones.  But more importantly, you should
    care!

 BT> the fact is you have nothing better to do than look at grammar?????

    Incorrect.  I look to the content of the message as well.  But when you
    have to stumble over the pathetic spelling and poor grammar, it may not
    be worth the trouble to grasp the theme of the message.

 BT> get a life man!

    My secret identity is that of "Politeness Man" as portrayed in
    National Lampoon magazine cartoons.  <g>


... He's got Blue Wave fever and it's spreading through the message bases!
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From: WILLIAM BYRD                           Number: 2304
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/23/93  7:29p
Subj: Busty Babes Volume 1 Release 3.0        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Lee,

  Just got your disk today via UPS.  Many thanks, as I was not expecting it.
Took a brief moment to check it out and must say that I'm very pleased with the
quality and material there.  Also the CD-ROM/Mouse Interface is much easier to
use and performs much better than the one on the disk piror to this.  Again
good job.

  The main reason for this message is to let all out there know that this disk
is certainly worth the wait we've endured for it.  I think once all have seen
it they'll agree that it is prehaps the best around to date.

Wm.

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From: LOUIS SOKOL                            Number: 2305
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/24/93 12:26a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Could you explain what MPC and MM mean?  I see some CDs listed as either type.
I would also like to know the difference between the various types of Groliers
Encyclopedias.  I guess that the one that is more expensive than the others is
multiple disks or has a bunch of extra features....thanks.

Please send me a catalog also, if possible.  My company is JET Computer
Services, 3350 Highway 6, Suite 563; Sugar Land, TX 77478.
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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From: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                      Number: 2306
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 07/23/93  4:39p
Subj: Re: TRADE ADULT CD FOR ADULT CD ?       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'll give you money for the Volcano cd if you don't mind, cause I don't have
any other cd like that. Just tell me the price.
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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 2307
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/22/93 12:34a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hiya, Michael!
On Jul 18, Michael Konor spake thusly to Sandeleh Francis @ 910/529:

 MK> I still have a couple left if you know anyone.

 MK> 205-837-5053

actually, i would like another one.  but i wonder if my toshiba 3401 could be
put into the external case you sell your 3201s in? i have to put more hardrive
in my "other" computer and that means no place insdie for the cd. it needs to
go external, but i'm not keen on on the price of the "box" by itself.  if i got
an external from you, could i take the 3201 out and put in my 3401?

if that would work, i'll take an external, if not then send me another
internal.   oh - fed ex didnt call before they arrived, so if you send me an
external drive, please give me a call with the price... 209 229-0473
looks like this echo is taking about 4 days to get from you to me, and fed ex
is a lot quicker than that.  :)

btw - it was a treat reading the want ads from your town - one alwyas hears
that the cost of living it high in calif and low in the south - well, your town
and mine seem to be pretty comparable on supermarket ads and rent.


\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: SULTAN QAMAR                           Number: 2308
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/22/93  4:00p
Subj: Pioneer                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


Was wondering if anyone wants to sell there Drm-600 ???  Can't afford new one,
so therefore used is prefered.

                                  Sultan
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 2309
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/22/93 12:45p
Subj: REVIEW OF "DIGITAL DREAMS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC> Bob, I ask you to show me one adult CD-ROM that has an easier to use
DC> interface than Digital Dreams does, and more importantly, one that
DC> will autoconfigure to the users system, so that they don't have to
DC> sit there and run multiple programs (and eat up drive space) just to
DC> view the images.

   Hey Bob!

     I still appreciate the excellent *unbiased* reviews you've done.
Once you get the latest Busty (if you haven't already), let us know
what you think... I think the interface for Busty Babes Release 3.0 is
the best, period, and I've _made_ excellent interfaces for other discs.
Of course, I'm biased because I distribute it (and Erotek's Digital
Dreams), but I use much less bandwidth for my propaganda <g>!

     Vince
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 2310
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/22/93 12:54p
Subj: CD'S SHIPPING TO CANADA??               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> KR> When did you send off my order?  It'll be two weeks tomorrow,
-> still KR> haven't seen or heard of it... KR>  * Origin: We are Not
-> Saints, Calgary Alberta [phone] (1:134/26)
-> Hmm I ordered some to. WIth us being in Canada.. that might be a
-> problem. Did you order adult cd's? Does anybody know what the border
-> guys do if they catch these?

Hi Chris! (I hope you're reading this too, Kirk!)

   Why don't you just order from us, here in Canada? Did you know that
30% of the adult discs in the market are actually pressed in Quebec?
Busty Babes & Southern Beauties are two I've got sitting in front of me
right now with MADE IN CANADA stickers on them. I can often get them
drop-shipped directly from the factory, without them crossing a single
international border. Plus, you can get anything I do get from the
states at prices similar to what you're already paying in the states
*WITHOUT* the delay, without the customs risk, and without the
postal/courier surcharges. For example, Hot Pix 3 is $40 Canadian, GST
Included, rather than $29.95 US (after 1.30 exchange & 7% GST becomes
$41 Canadian...sample price picked out of a "SUMMER SPECTACULAR BLOWOUT"
message I read in this echo today).

   Give us a call - you won't regret it!

   Vince
   306-789-4654 Voice
   306-789-8690 Fax
   306-789-8682 BBS

   Dealer inquiries invited!
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From: PETER CLAUSEN                          Number: 2311
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  5:23p
Subj: CDROM + Amiga 2000 + Zeus=? Yes or No   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I just receieved a Toshiba XM-3201B Drive from this echo.

I think the drive is fine, but can't get it to work on my Zeus equipped Amiga
2000.

The Zeus came with a startup-icon for removable media that one supposedly drops
into the start-up drawer (I'm running AmigaDos 2.1), but this does not help me
any.  Is this just for things like Syquests and the like?  Not CD's?

My SCSI Toolbox that came with my Zeus card does 'see' the Toshiba as one of
the SCSI devices attached to my controller.

So I guess I need to get Xetec's driver to make things work?

Anyone succesfully running this with a Zeus card?

I also have an ICD AdSCSI controller card.  Perhaps I can install it and run
the CD from him if the Zeus fails.

Anyone running Xetec's driver with an AdSCSI?

I also tried installing the Toshiba in my 486 equipped with a Buslogic BT-445S
SCSI controller, but alas, Buslogic's CDROM driver only support SCSI-II
devices.

As with my Amiga, the controller 'sees' the drive, but that's it.

The tech guy at Buslogic told me COREL SCSI might be the ticket.  Anyone have
any thoughts on this?

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From: PAUL JANEL                             Number: 2312
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  4:12p
Subj: Wanted: broken computer/e               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

@SUBJECT:Wanted: Broken computer/electronic junk!                    N
 Wanted: Broken CD-roms, Disk drives, modems, Stero systems, monitors, TVs....
ect.

In the Monroe County area only, please.

        ******************************************
        * If intersted, write back and specify:  *
        *        1. Item (tv, vcr...)            *
        *        2. what's wrong with it         *
        *        3. your offer                   *
        *        4. name & address               *
        ******************************************

            Why throw it away when you could get $$$??


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From: BRAD RILEY                             Number: 2313
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/23/93 11:13p
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> I was ready to buy it for 37.00...but them I hear someone said:it can be
> bough for 25.00 a piece..? Any true on that ???????????

On 23 July, Boris Osadciw  advertised  it for 25.00 But Mike Shannon <I Believe
was the name said in a message he would beat ALL prices advertised here by
5%......

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From: BRIAN POLAK                            Number: 2314
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 07/22/93 11:46p
Subj: Sf cd                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Mark,
        Can you tell me more about what is on this SF CD
                             SCI-FI FANTASY..................$19

                                                Thanks
                                                  Brian

===
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From: KEVIN DEW                              Number: 2315
  To: BRIAN COFFEY                             Date: 07/23/93 10:21p
Subj: order rec'd                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

/a


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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 2316
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/24/93 11:47a
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am interested in the Encyclopedia. Let me know. Tnx.


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2317
  To: BENJAMIN KEEN                            Date: 07/24/93  1:30a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    On 07-19-93, Boris Osadciw50ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36
>>    Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
>>------------------------------------

>>    What are the stats on that NEC? Do you have a Mac driver for
>>    it? I don't need a SCSI card, but I do need to know if it has
>>    two Centronics 50 (or DB-25) ports on the back. I heard the
>>    older portable NECs had only one SCSI port on the back. If you
>>    have any other external SCSI drives (new or used) let me know.

Ben, I'd have to look to see if we have the MAC drivers. As for the cable,
yes we have them.

Regarding the scsi port, these units have a single port on them for input.
They are MPC compliant, offer 450ms access time with a 150kps transfer
rate. They come with the full factory warranty and are caddless.

If you need further assistance, please call us at 216-225-3263 and we'll
be happy to assist you further as we have other drives as well.

Boris Osadciw

... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2318
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  1:30a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: PHILIP S ELROD                         Number: 2319
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/21/93  9:27p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Eric,
Do you know of any cd rom drives(internal) for sale under $199
if so respond back
                             Thanx
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From: CHAD NEWMAN                            Number: 2320
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/05/93 10:31a
Subj: Trade for Adult CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

I would like to trade "Cream of the Crop" Shareware CD (valued at $39.00) for
an Adult CD.  I have a few other games I'm willing to through in for the trade.
If you are interested you can contact me via NETMAIL FIDO 1:3400/44 or call
voice after 5:30pm MST at [phone], leave me a message in this echo area
or write me at 2075 Cooper ST Apt#633, Missoula, MT 59802.

Chad

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From: CHAD NEWMAN                            Number: 2321
  To: HOWARD MALKIEL                           Date: 07/05/93 10:38a
Subj: Cd rom discs to trade                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Howard!

02 Jul 93 20:13, Patrick Shen wrote to Howard Malkiel:


 >> Hi everyone. I have a couple of XXX CD's that I would be
 >> willing to trade.
 >> - Asian Ladies - Pretty new disc, only used 3-4 times.

Howard I know you probalably won't go for this but it's worth a try:  would you
be willing to trade for "Cream of the Crop" Shareware CD?  If so leave me a
message here or send NETMAIL to 1:3400/44.

Chad

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 2322
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 07/23/93 12:06p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ryan, I am sorry to say that the 7th Guest game was sold on Monday. I hope that
you are not too disappionted. It looks like the lag in Net-Mail kept you from
seeing the SOLD post in time. I know that Brian Stark at 1:290/8 said that he
also had the game and was willing to trade. Maybe you can still work a deal
with him. Let me know if you want me to rip up the check or send it back.

Michael



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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2323
  To: MIKE PETRO                               Date: 07/23/93 11:44a
Subj: Re: NEW CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <07-20-93 20:09> Mike Petro wrote:

MP>> I just bought that CD from Mike Shannon. Please let me know
MP>> when the book becomes available and how to get a copy. Thanks.

Heard today the graphics people are up to the L's so far--I will announce the
book availability here or take my number [phone] and check back with us
on about 45 days or so--Those clips that didin't print well are being thrown
out--So we have been told the disc will lose about 25% of the PCX that it has
now--

Thanks for the inquiry !

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2324
  To: PAUL RABINOWITZ                          Date: 07/22/93  8:40a
Subj: SHAREWARE CD-ROM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PR>I am looking for a new shareware cd-rom disk with some GOOD files on it...
PR>CAN ANYONE HELP???

Hi Paul.  I recommend the following recent shareware discs, and
currently have them in stock.

Big Sky ROM     Night Owl 9     So Much Shareware 3     Software Vault 2

All four are very popular CD-Roms.  If interested give me a call.
Thanks!

Computer Works                                  Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Credit Card and COD orders.
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2325
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 07/21/93  1:54p
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PD>You do not offer the lowest price on Night Owl 9 as your ad states.

You don't know that unless you ask, now do you?  There are several of us
including Mike that will match any price when you can quote a legitimate
advertiser.

                                                        Jim...

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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 2326
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/23/93 11:58p
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING IS HERE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> TITLE:  Precision Mapping

Mike,  some questions about this CD.

I need a program that will do what Auto Map does. Take a starting and
ending point with several stops along the way and make me a map and a
listing of the roads and mileages.

I need it to allow me to draw a straight line between any two towns and
allow me to print a distance line with straight line mileage listed.

I need to be able to draw an 80 mile circle around an town and print a
map. I'd like to be able to automatically list the towns within the
circle also.


How does this cd rate on that scale.

Thanks

James
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2327
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 07/24/93  3:33p
Subj: Re: SHERLOCK HOLMES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> Well it has a sustained data throughput rate of 150k per second. I
>> gathered that would be the only meaningfull thing. But I have also tried
>> it with a CD disk cache and it still doesn't work!

    That is the important thing.  I think it needs about 250k, although I
am not sure.  CD cache will not help in this case of real time
multimedia.

Eric


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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 2328
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 07/24/93  9:55a
Subj: Re: Starvector                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->
->  BT> why do you pick apart the spelling in my messages for???????
->
->     It annoys me to read illiterate messages posted in any echo.  Unl
->     you are from Arkansas, there is simply no excuse.  I get tired of
->     hearing "its just computers, i ain't needs to spel it rite!"  Mos
->     individuals that gravitate towards computers as a hobby are gener
->     better educated and certainly more willing to learn than those wh
->     not.  However, your posts are not helping sustain my theorem.
->
->  BT> Is your life that boring????
->
->     Not at all.  I travel the world, was a military officer who fough
->     the Gulf War and now work in the business world.  I find life rat
->     exciting.
->
->  BT> get a life dude.....
->
->     I believe I already do.  "dude?"  Are you from the Left Coast by
->     chance?  The name "Bubba" must be a real topic of conversation ou
->     there at cocktail parties.


Who made you god???  and if you don't like my spelling , then don't read
it......people like you start world conflicts...< my way or die
attitude> ............
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2329
  To: KEITH RITCHIE                            Date: 07/23/93 11:48a
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 KR> I just got the Winbox Cd from Starvector and I am having a bear
 KR> time getting it to work. It keeps lookingg for a Project1 file t


The Windows interface on the CD has a bug in it. Call their BBS and d/l
the corrected version.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2330
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/24/93  6:53a
Subj: Busty Babes Rel. 3                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Lee:

Just a short note for now saying that BB3 has arrived safe and sound.
Since my lovely wife has planned the "Mother of All Garage Sales" for
this weekend, it'll be a few days before I can really scrutinize it. I
did take a quick peek at Showoff and it looks very interesting. Thanks
for the opportunity to review it.  Ciao!

... BEWARE - Tagline Thief in this echo
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2331
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/24/93  6:56a
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

 DC> Hogwash.


Doug:

P-L-E-A-S-E don't start another one of those silly debates over who has
the "very lowest" prices. Just run your ads and be kind to your
customers. (Pretty Please???)

... QWK? I don't need no stinkin' QWK packet!
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2332
  To: BOB KELLY                                Date: 07/25/93 11:14a
Subj: HERE WE ARE                             Refer: 5737
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> BK> BK> TM>BK>SQ>    Cheers BBS in beautiful Cambridge, Ontario, Cana
-> BK> BK> TM>BK>SQ>    proud to be carrying this echo !!
-> BK> BK>
-> BK> BK> TM>BK>And I'm so proud you told us about it...
-> BK> BK>
-> BK> BK> TM>And I'm so proud that you're so proud that Cheers told us
-> BK> BK> TM>about it!!!
-> BK> BK>
-> BK> BK> My pleasure! Anyone else out there proud about this?
-> BK>
-> BK>     I'm proud too!! I'm also proud that we have the same
-> BK>initials!!!
->
-> Who said what above?

OK, we're all proud... Please end this thread.

tim
moderator
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2333
  To: WILLIAM BYRD                             Date: 07/24/93 11:02a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Volume 1 Release 3.0    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <07-23-93 19:29> William Byrd wrote:

WB>>   Just got your disk today via UPS.  Many thanks, as I was not
WB>> expecting it. Took a brief moment to check it out and must say that
WB>> I'm very pleased with the quality and material there.  Also the
WB>> CD-ROM/Mouse Interface is much easier to use and performs much better
WB>> than the one on the disk piror to this.  Again good job.

Thank-you William for sending us the original scans that we were able to use
enabling us to remove most all the "T.I.T.S." BBS altered ones--We don't forget
those that helped us get back on our feet again. We salute you !

Knew the "SHOWOFF" interface was going to make this CD alot of fun, and a
breeze to manipulate--Now we have to sit back and see how Bob Jackson reviews
it :)

Take Care !!

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2334
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/24/93 11:07a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes, before 3.0.            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Boris Osadciw <07-22-93 11:45> Bob Jackson wrote:
BJ>>

BJ>> Are you saying that you still stock the *ORIGINAL*  Rel 1.0 BB?

I doubt it, I am sure he has 2.0--The 1.0's are real scarce and I have had
dealers trying to find them for their own collection--

Release 1.0---Has no text stories  (Pressed in Nov 92) only 3,000 copies
Release 2.0---Has the text stories (pressed in Jan 93) only 5,000 copies
Release 3.0---Has 3.0 written on the cover and has SHOWOFF interface.

PS--Sent you the new release overnight and am real curious to how you
    liked the new image interface ???

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 2335
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  5:34p
Subj: Grolier's 1992 CD encyclopedia          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia V5.0 CD.  This is the
entire 1992 Grolier's Academic American Encyclopedia with 3,000 pictures, over
250 maps, over 50 video clips, and over 30 minutes of sounds.  It includes the
docs and registration card.  Asking $45 plus shipping....if interested, please
e-mail me here or contact me in the evening or weekends at the number in the
tagline....thanks !!

... Voice: 919-870-6926 or Prodigy: CJBM15A
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From: MATT SMITH                             Number: 2336
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/22/93 10:28a
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Let's drop that price a little then we'll talk...


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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                       Number: 2337
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/24/93 12:04p
Subj: Bottom Line Pricing                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Doug!

In a message to All <07/22/93> Doug Carpenter wrote:

DC> PCJ also stocks most of what we sell.  We can generally get anything we h
DC> advertised if not in stock within 3-4 business days to ship.  So, go ahea
DC> get your price, then call Starvector and get your 5% off price, then call
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                          This would cost more than your 1%
                          savings.  1% of $25 is $0.25, the phone
                          call could cost $1-$2.

DC> back, and we will give you an additional 1% off of the Starvector price o
DC> items that are normally priced and not specials or closeouts.  PCJ tries
DC> best to be your low price leader to save you money wherever possible.

Why not just say you will beat any advertised price by 6%.

 * WCE 1.10/2020 * Thesaurus: ancient reptile with an excellent vocabulary.


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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2338
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93 12:56p
Subj: OS/2 CDROM drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        I'm looking to buy a OS/2 2.1 compatible CDROM drive. It doesn't
 matter whether it's internal or external, buy I'd really prefer a caddy
 drive. Or at least one that is automatic. The one I use right now is
 horrible for switching CDs! Of course, I'd like it to be a bit
 fast <= 350ms. Please, let me know if anyone has one for sale. If you
 can get me a good price, I'll buy it in a second!
                                                        Edward

... REAL programmers use: "COPY CON FILENAME.EXE"
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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2339
  To: TONY MACE                                Date: 07/23/93 12:56p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM DRIVE WANTED                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Tony Mace to All <=-

 TM> Am looking for a Tandy CDR-1000.  If you have one, please leave
 TM> message here  or call me 308-487-5378 after 3pm mtn time.
 TM> This drive is wanted ASAP!
 TM> Tony

        How much? I have one I might be willing to sell.
                                                                Edward


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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2340
  To: DENNIS STERNER                           Date: 07/23/93 12:56p
Subj: Re: CD-ROMS FOR SALE                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DS> I have the following CD-ROM discs for sale:
 DS> 1.  Compton's Family Encyclopedia - $30
 DS> Shipping is additional.  Leave message here or call 717-637-2972.

        I'm intrested in Compton's. My BBS number is 304-768-3682. How
 much would it costs for overnight shipping COD?
                                                        Edward

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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2341
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/23/93 12:56p
Subj: Re: SHERLOCK HOLMES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Eric Bravick to Sam Figueroa <=-
 EB> It needs a 350 ms or better to look and sound smooth.

        I have a demo of it that keeps crashing. My CDROM drive is
 800ms and I thought that was probably the cause.
                                                                        Edward


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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 2342
  To: KEITH RITCHIE                            Date: 07/23/93  7:53a
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KR> I just got the Winbox Cd from Starvector and I am having a bear of a time
KR>getting it to work. It keeps lookingg for a Project1 file that is nowhere to

KR>be found. I checked the power.cfg file and it has the correct info. Help...
i
KR>seems like a good CD from the Dir listing but it is worthless if you can't
KR>access it.
KR>                       Thanks, Keith

KR>--- GEcho 1.00+
KR>* Origin: Dollar Saver BBS   410-360-0640   Pasadena Md  USA (1:261/1128)

There was a bug in the original version.  You can freq the "fix" file from us
as
"WBOXFIX.ZIP" at 1:161/205.  Sorry for the problems - the disk isn't exactly
worthless w/o the front end, wouldn't you agree?  :>

TTYSoon,
Dave Perkovich
Damar Enterprises Software


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From: HENRY ARIAS                            Number: 2343
  To: STEVE PHILLIPS                           Date: 07/24/93 10:43p
Subj: For Sale`                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        I just sent out your CD-ROM today, July 24th from the post office
at the Tampa Airport. I mailed it priority mail, so you should have it in
about three days..... Thanks ... Henry

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From: BRAD RILEY                             Number: 2344
  To: DUNCAN MARKLEY                           Date: 07/24/93 10:08p
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DM>BR > I am ready to buy now.
DM>BR >
DM>BR > Please do one of the following:
DM>BR >
DM>BR > 1. Fax me your bid at 816-746-4747
DM>BR >            or
DM>BR > 2. Netmail me at 1:280/23


DM>Maybe we can come and set them up for you as well....

I want the best on the market for my users.  That's what they pay for.  I
guess that a smart-aleck comment like that shows your inability to deal with
someone on a professional business level.  But that's ok, don't get me wrong.
If it weren't for imature people, we wouldn't have anyone to laugh at would
we?  Have a great day....

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From: BRAD RILEY                             Number: 2345
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/24/93 10:22p
Subj: Re: RED HOT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I must say, Boris, that you are good to deal with and have fair prices. I
bought my rom and a disk from you and had a little trouble setting it up but
you helped me out over the phone.  Have a great day from KC Mo

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2346
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/24/93  5:17a
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 19 Jul 93  17:03:00, I heard Manny Wise shout to All:

MW> I was ready to buy it for 37.00...but them I hear someone said:it can be bo
MW> for 25.00 a piece..? Any true on that ???????????
MW>

Manny,

  Yes, it is.  Free Spirit software has them for $ 25.00.


     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!



               Call Free Spirit And ask for Roc!
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.
        **************
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2347
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  5:18a
Subj: Night Owl 9 for $25                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!



               Call Free Spirit And ask for Roc!
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.

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From: CHRIS MORGAN                           Number: 2348
  To: MARK STEIGER                             Date: 07/24/93  5:47p
Subj: interface card                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Well, I don't own one but the Sound Blaster 16 has one on it.

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From: CHRIS MORGAN                           Number: 2349
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  5:57p
Subj: CD-Rom Sound Card                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a CD-Rom and Soundcard package.  I have seen the Fusion CD
package but am looking for a used one.

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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 2350
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/24/93  4:28p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Israel,

Answering a msg of <24 Jul 93>, from Israel Gomberg to All:

I would be willing to make that trade.  Give me a call at the bellow # and we
can talk.


Ed Duchek
[phone]

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2351
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: Trade adult CD for Adult                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KP>   I have the Adult CD Volcano, and would like to trade it for another adult
KP>cd, If interested, Please let me know.

I'll trade you a Physical Therapy or a Storm 1 for it.  Give me a shout if
interested.

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2352
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: Libel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MB>you to send yours in return.  Instead you shipped mine back.  In as much,
you
MB>caused me to lose a total of $2.90.  Since you did so after the deal had
been
                                ^^^^^^
Geez, I'LL send you the three bucks if you'll just stuff a sock in it!
      ^^^^

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2353
  To: KEITH RITCHIE                            Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KR> I just got the Winbox Cd from Starvector and I am having a bear of a time
KR>getting it to work. It keeps lookingg for a Project1 file that is nowhere to
KR>found. I checked the power.cfg file and it has the correct info. Help... it
KR>seems like a good CD from the Dir listing but it is worthless if you can't
KR>access it.

Keith,

Sorry, I goofed.  The fix for this IS on my board at 509-457-0206.  I had
it in a file area called "GENERAL", which requires level 15 access.  Since
you hadn't gone through the verification, your access level was only 10.
I've moved the file, called "WBOXFIX.ZIP" to the CD-ROM area, where you
can now download it.  I've also bumped your access level to 15.

Again, sorry you had to make a call for nothing.  ):

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2354
  To: BRAD RILEY                               Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BR>I want the latest and hottest Adult CD.  I want info on dupes and types of
BR>files and price.

We have two brand new ones:  Southern Beauties and Amateur Models, both of
which **I believe** are all original scans.  $35 ea. or both for $69.

BR>I want the latest and best Shareware Disc.  No old files and latest version
o
BR>files, not 6 versions of the same files.  I believe you get what you pay for
BR>and I want the latest and best.

Try either Night Owl 9, Software Vault 2, So Much Shareware 3, or Pier 2.
These are the latest and greatest.  Get your best price and call us.

Give me a ring and we can discuss further!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2355
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: cd's shipping to canada??               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KR>My CDs arrived from Starvector today, two and a half weeks after
KR>ordering.  I found out what the delay was, customs indeed had opened
KR>them up, probably somebody copied them as even the CDs themselves were
KR>no longer wrapped.

Wow, no kidding?  I'm going to have to start using Kryptonite boxes I
guess.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2356
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
                                pg. 1 of 2

   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

TITLES INCLUDE:

1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,
   poetry, humor, cookbooks, American history and founding documents, novels,
   short stories, home improvement guides, computer tutors, and more!

2. WINDOWARE - An excellent disc packed with tons of useful programs for
   Windows 3.0 and 3.1, including typefonts, font installers, games, home
   and business applications, education, wallpaper, utilities, etc.

3. SOUND SENSATIONS! - Adds multimedia excitement to your system!  Includes
   tons of sound effects, music files, jukeboxes, voices, sound clips,
   music voices, etc. in a variety of file formats.

4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities, debuggers,
   troubleshooters, and other programming tools for C/C++, dBase, Clipper,
   Basic, Assembler, AI, Unix, OS/2, Pascal, Forth, and more!

5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
   thesauruses, word-processors, style/syntax/spell checkers, glossaries,
   crossword solvers, foreign language tutors . . . on and on!

6. DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES - Exciting arcade action games: Space wars,
   shoot-em-ups, auto racing, sports, casino gambling, horse and auto
   racing, and more. The fast action will entertain you for years!

7. TOO MANY TYPEFONTS! - Countless typefonts in all formats:  TrueType,
   ATM, Adobe Type 1, WFN, First Publisher, Ghostscript, HPL, etc. Also
   includes typeface modifiers, font managers, downloaders, & utilities.

 ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  So Much Shareware 3 only
 $25 with any Chestnut purchase!

            >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2357
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
                                pg. 2 of 2

   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

TITLES INCLUDE:

8.  CLIPART GOLIATH - Over 10,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats, plus
    some in color-TIF/PCX, MAC, GIF, etc. Files can be imported to virtually
    every desktop publishing program! Subjects include: Americana, Animals,
    Business, Computing, Entertainment, Food, Holiday, Music, People,
    Religion, Science & Medicine, Signs, Sports, Cartoons, & many more.

9.  HAM RADIO 3.0 - Excellent collection of HAM and SWL programs and data!
    Includes packet radio, satellite communications, frequency lists,
    equipment service, design, mods, logging, news, FAX, FCC, & others.

10. COLOSSAL COOKBOOK - Over 4000 recipes, far more than the "Joy of
    Cooking".  Includes excellent recipe cross-reference and search!
    Includes health/nutrition guides, ethnic and regional recipes, meal
    planning, low-cholesterol diets, cooking instructions, & more!

11. BIBLES & RELIGION - All popular New & Old Testament versions, Book of
    Mormon, Talmud portions, lexicons & concordances, study guides,
    organization membership & fund-raising programs, etc.

12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for all
    applications, with an emphasis on games and Windows programs.  Subjects
    include business, clipart, communications, BBS, database, education,
    finance, games, graphics, religion, sound, utilities, Windows, & more!

13. OUR SOLAR SYSTEM - Exciting NASA and observatory photos of the planets,
    moons, comets, earth, and celestial phenomena!  Includes star locators,
    planetarium programs, astronomical data, voyage simulators, + tons more.

 ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
 any Chestnut purchase!

            >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966 (FAX)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2358
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 07/24/93  1:11a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MG> PN> >   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of
MG> PN> popular Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!
MG> PN> Mike, I faxed you an order tonight for 2 $10 CD's (ClipArt Goliath,
MG> PN> OUR SOLAR SYSTEM ).

MG> Hello Paul.  Well Mike really pulled one off this time.  I just purchased
MG> the exact same CDs, and they arrived Tuesday.  What a GREAT collection &

Max,

Glad you got your stuff OK.  Ring me up if you need anything else.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 2359
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  6:23p
Subj: USED CD'S                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I just got back from doing a show, have lots of CD's that were shown at
the computer/CDROM show.  Have some for 10.00 up.  Gimme a call at
405-672-1708.  Will not post list, but please call.

BOB
:-)

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From: RICH JACKSON                           Number: 2360
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/24/93 12:57a
Subj: Libel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > good, little else matters.  Have a good day Terry.  Finis

'Bout Time...

BTW, How them THREE Kids doin??  You been claiming them on your taxes???

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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 2361
  To: PHILIP S ELROD                           Date: 07/24/93 10:05p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Eric,
-> Do you know of any cd rom drives(internal) for sale under $199
-> if so respond back
->                              Thanx
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 call groupware   mitsumi internals $175.00
206-472-1400
bubba
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2362
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/24/93  1:57p
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    I was ready to buy it for 37.00...but them I hear someone
>>    said:it can be bough for 25.00 a piece..? Any true on that
>>    ???????????

Yep and IN STOCK !! Call us at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad
to help you out.

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2363
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  1:57p
Subj: CD SPECIALS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Officers Bookcase       Canadian Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
Chicano Datebase          PC-SIG Games            LaserTax On CD
Phoenix # 3               Jokes&Pranks            Learning Adventure
Business Assistant        World Travler           Sound Sensation
DeathStar Arcade          Colossal CookBook       ClipArt Goliath
Technotools               Our Solar System        Windoware

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

... Xpress Yourself!
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From: J.P. LADNER                            Number: 2364
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  4:08p
Subj: Night Owls 9                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??  If so
please tell me the soonest you could send it to me in VA...I had ordered
one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't arrived so I called and
cancled the damn thing...I need it as fast as possible...

J.P.
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From: DAVID PATTERSON                        Number: 2365
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/23/93  7:18p
Subj: CDROM_SALE Antics                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MB>for a CD-ROM, Terry Woodward failed to complete the trade
MB>as agreed.  I posted messages to him requesting he rectify
MB>the situation, he responded with a tirade of name calling
MB>in response to each of my messages, and mailed my disk
MB>back,

WHAT! He send your disk BACK! So...you are out some postage?
Why has the whole world had to read or skip through this junk
because of a dollar or 2 ?
PLEASE give everyone a break.
Thanks

Dave P.
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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2366
  To: KIRK RAWNSLEY                            Date: 07/24/93  8:29a
Subj: cd's shipping to canada????!!!          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 KR> None of the titles I ordered were adult.  From what I understand, it
 KR> usually takes a week or so.  It's been over two so far...

 Well, I was fourtunate enough to get them on Wen. Supproisingly the
 package was not even opened at the border! Just under 2 weeks.

 KR> What's the weather up there like these days?  You gettin nothing but
 KR> rain?

Horrible, rained all summer so far. But yesterday evening it cleasred up and
this morning it is actuallt SUNNY! My gosh, Its sunny on a weekend? Something
must be wrong here... 8-)

CJK

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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 2367
  To: VINCENT KAYE                             Date: 07/23/93  4:18p
Subj: Re: nightowl 9                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Now back to busines...How much for NightOwl's 9.0?
> Thanks, good "old" buddy...:)...
I just got it for 25.00..from 1-800-638-5757....5.00 shipping though...

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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 2368
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/24/93  9:42a
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600 Master
-> Visa accepted. Posted on 07/20/93, @ 08:12.
->
->  PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE
->
->  ADULTREFER CDX - Adult Reference Library               23.00
->  ADVENTURES CDX - Adventures of Buttman (MAC)           48.00
->  AFTERDARK  CDX - After Dark Trilogy                    37.00
->  ALLBEAUTIE CDX - All Beauties                          26.00
->  AMATEURMOD CDX - Amateur Models                        30.00
->  ANIMFANTI  CDX - Animation Fantasies I                 30.00
->  ANIMFANTII CDX - Animation Fantasies II                30.00
->  ASIANLADIE CDX - Asian Ladies                          30.00
->  BUSTYBABES CDX - Busty Babes                           30.00
->  DEEPTHROAT CDX - Deep Throat, The Movie (Digitized)    45.00
->  DIGITALDRE CDX - Digital Dreams                        27.00
->  DIRTYTALK  CDX - Dirty Talk                            41.00
->  ECSTASY    CDX - Ecstasy                               30.00
->  EROTICENCO CDX - Erotic Encounters                     30.00
->  EXOTICGIRL CDX - Exotic Girls                          27.00
->  FAO        CDX - FAO (For Adults Only)                 26.00
->  FOXES      CDX - Foxes                                 29.00
->  GIFFYGOLD  CDX - Giffy Gold                            30.00
->  HAWAII     CDX - Hawaii CD                             23.00
->  HIDDENOBSE CDX - Hidden Obsessions                     50.00
->  HOTPIX2    CDX - Hot Pix 2                             24.00
->  HOTPIX3    CDX - Hot Pix 3                             24.00
->  HOTPIX4    CDX - Hot Pix 4                             24.00
->  HOUSEOFSLE CDX - House of Sleeping Beauties            43.00
->  ISLANDGIRL CDX - Island Girls                          22.00
->  LOCALGIRLS CDX - Local Girls                           22.00
->  MOVINGFANT CDX - Moving Fantasies                      30.00
->  MYPRIVATE1 CDX - My Private Collection 1               30.00
->  MYPRIVATE2 CDX - My Private Collection 2               30.00
->  NIGHTWATCH CDX - Nightwatch Interactive                46.00
->  PCPIX1     CDX - PC PIX 1                              30.00
->  PCPIX2     CDX - PC PIX 2                              30.00
->  PCPIX3     CDX - PC PIX 3                              30.00
->  PHYSICALTH CDX - Physical Therapy                      34.00
->  PORKWARE1  CDX - Porkware I                            30.00
->  PORKWARE2  CDX - Porkware II                           30.00
->  PRIVATEPI1 CDX - Private Pictures I                    30.00
->  RIMFIREPAC CDX - Rimfire Pacific Video                 37.00
->  SEEDYMOVIE CDX - Seedy Movies                          37.00
->  7THHEAVEN  CDX - Seventh Heaven                        34.00
->  SMUTWARE   CDX - Smutware                              23.00
->  SOMUCHSTAR CDX - So Much Stareware                     30.00
->  STORM1     CDX - Storm I                               23.00
->  STORM2     CDX - Storm II                              23.00
->  STORM3     CDX - Storm III                             23.00
->  SWIMWEAR&M CDX - Swimwear & More                       32.00
->  TROPICALGI CDX - Tropical Girls                        27.00
->  VISUALFANT CDX - Visual Fantasies                      30.00
->  VOLCANO    CDX - Volcano                               33.00
->  WICKEDPDOS CDX - Wicked Photo CD DOS                   48.00
->  WICKEDPWIN CDX - Wicked Photo CD Windows               48.00
->
-> Prices & spec's subject to change without notice. Best time to call:
-> 9-12 PM Mon - Fri, all day Sat & Sun (EASTERN)
->
-> ===
->  * RM 1.0 00391 * See complete product lists in the FOR SALE Conferen
->
->
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->
Do you have the cd of teri Weigel pics?

I've seen it advertised in the back of pc computing


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From: JESS LEWIS                             Number: 2369
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  9:42a
Subj: re: cdrom drive                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a cdrom for under 200$ if you know of one let me know please.

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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 2370
  To: BRIAN POLAK                              Date: 07/24/93 11:22a
Subj: Sf cd                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Brian!

In a message to Mark Abbacchi <07/22/93> Brian Polak wrote:

BP> Hi Mark,
BP>         Can you tell me more about what is on this SF CD
BP>                              SCI-FI FANTASY..................$19

BP>                                                 Thanks
BP>                                                   Brian

1200+ VGA photos 100+ sound files, all of Star Trek, The Next
Generation, Star Wars, Fantasy files like Conan, Dungeons and Dragons,
and SCI FI creatures.  Star Trek Games, and Articles also included.
VERY popular with the trekky boards.

Mark

 * WCE 1.02/2072 * Bigomy: one wife too many.  Monogamy: same idea.


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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2371
  To: JOSEPH THOMAS                            Date: 07/25/93  4:33p
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for the message on the encyclopedia. I've had one other person
contact me on it, and I left them a message back. If they decide not to
take the CD, I'll drop you a note again to see if you want it.

-hk
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From: DUANE A. FLOYD                         Number: 2372
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/24/93  9:49p
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Could you please send a catalog to me???!!!

My address is:

Duane Floyd
1266 Holly Oak Drive
Randleman, NC 27317

Thanks in advance...

C-Ya

Duane "|> affy" Floyd

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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 2373
  To: KEVIN OYAMA                              Date: 07/25/93 12:55a
Subj: CDWORLD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Kevin,
 Allways try to do my best, Have a good one and thanks for the kind
words.

 David McSpadden CD-WORLD


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2374
  To: BOB HAY                                  Date: 07/24/93  7:24a
Subj: E & M Disk                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BH>I am looking for someone who has the Electricity and
BH>Magnetism CD-ROM.  Pricing and ordering information

I can't help you, but as an astrophysics major I'm interested in what this
might be.  What is it?

 * SLMR 2.1 *

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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 2375
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93 12:27p
Subj: Jem Disk Trade-In Special               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Did you ever purchase a CD-Rom disc only to find it didn't meet your needs at
all?  You know the one, all it does is sit on the shelf behind old Computer
books and empty Coke cans collecting dust!

Well here's your chance to TRADE it in and get a shiny new copy of Jem Disc
instead at very little cost to you.  Jem Disc was a hot seller last year and
it's file collection stands the test of time (especially if your a sysop).
There's over 500MB of great files in 59 categories.  The disc contains
FILES.BBS support and there is a plug & play ROMbrain database available.

For a limited time if you send us an unwanted computer CD-Rom disc and just
$14.95 we'll ship you a copy of Jem Disc!  Shipping & Handling is free.

FREQ the magic name JEMTRADE from 1:203/49 or call 916-921-9949 and download
the files from my logon matrix (enter JEM at the prompt).

(If you are interested in ordering Jem Disc but have nothing to trade FREQ the
file JEMDISC instead - the price is $19.95 plus S&H).


Thanks!

Michael Crosson
Jewel Distributing



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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 2376
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93 12:37p
Subj: Jem Disc Descriptions                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Just a quick note to Jem Disc customers -

The latest Jem Disc FILES.BBS descriptions are available as JEMFILES.ZIP. As
time permits I improve and enhance them so it's worth your while to FREQ them
every so often.

Many of you will be happy to know that I recently finished describing ALL 700+
.GIF files in great detail.

FREQ JEMFILES.ZIP from 1:203/49 at v.32bis speeds (about 250k) or call
916-921-9949 and download them from my logon matrix (enter JEM).

Thanks! - Michael Crosson

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2377
  To: PHILIP S ELROD                           Date: 07/25/93  2:06p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
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>> Do you know of any cd rom drives(internal) for sale under $199

    Mitsumi's sell for about $190 new from any of the big mail order
places, Midwest, DC, Computability.  Look 'em up in the Computer Shopper.

Eric


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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 2378
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93  5:02p
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (24 Jul 93) Bob Jackson wrote to Doug Carpenter...

 BJ>  MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<
 BJ>
 BJ>  DC> Hogwash.
 BJ>
 BJ>
 BJ> Doug:
 BJ>
 BJ> P-L-E-A-S-E don't start another one of those silly debates over who
 BJ> has
 BJ> the "very lowest" prices. Just run your ads and be kind to your
 BJ> customers. (Pretty Please???)
 BJ>
BJ>  * Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | [phone] |
 BJ> (1:106/30.0)
 BJ> 209/209
 BJ> 10 12 19
        I am interested in Purchasing CD-Rom for Education.
        Do you have anything Like Barney Bear, Arthur Goes to School
        Or Grandma and Me?
        I Would appreciate any info you can send my way.


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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 2379
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93  5:08p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (24 Jul 93) Mike Shannon wrote to All...

 MS>              *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
 MS>                                 pg. 1 of 2
 MS>
 MS>    For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of
 MS> popular
 MS>                    Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!
 MS>
 MS> TITLES INCLUDE:
 MS>
        I am interested in Educational CD-Rom's.
        Example Barney Bear, Arthur Goes to School, Grandma & Me.
        Do you have anything along these lines. Appreciate
        any help I can get.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2380
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC> MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

DC>Hogwash.

Hogwash?  Boy, there's a term I haven't heard in a while.  Like I said
Doug, you're certainly welcome to "call my bluff" any time you see fit.
If it IS "hogwash", then you should have no trouble proving it.  Go ahead
and advertise them for less than $10, and let's see what happens!  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2381
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: Chestnut cd's...$10! 1/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DK>DK>MS>  ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
DK>DK>  >  any Chestnut purchase!

DK>Ok Mike, $10 is coming at ya!!

Great!  Got 'em in stock Dave!

z u later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2382
  To: STEVE ELLIOTT                            Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: MS MPC Works                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SE>One quick question, do you ship COD?

Affirmative Steve.  Give me a call anytime.

Bye,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2383
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: 2 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>Howse 'bout sendin' me a pare of them on 'proval?  (;>  (i.e. same deal
BJ>as last time)

Let me stock up a little first.  Hard to keep these new ones in!  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2384
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93 12:35a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 July 1993                ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 7/21
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 Amateur Models (New!).........35.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Animation Fantasies 1 or 2....29.00    Porkware 2 (New!).............37.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Busty Babes...................33.00    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........29.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........49.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................33.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................33.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................33.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......35.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............33.00    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......28.00    Storm 2.......................28.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Storm 3.......................29.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....45.00    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).49.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 PC-PIX 1......................30.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 PC-PIX 2......................30.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 PC-PIX 3......................30.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

   Dealer/Sysop Mix-N-Match discounts:  10-19: 10% / 20-49: 15% / 50+ 20%
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2385
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/25/93  6:48p
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there I am interested in the:

HK->Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
HK->  Came bundled with SoundBlaster audio card. CD ROM in jewel
HK->case &
HK->docs,
HK->  but no pkg. Still in sealed plastic wrapper. CD ROM drive
HK->reqd.  $28

I would be happy to purchase it from you,  please tell me your address and
where to send the $28 and do I have to pay for postage and I'll enclose the
money order ro whatever.

                                Darren Sellner

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From: BOB CENTERBAR                          Number: 2386
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  3:47p
Subj: CD Library                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I've got a CD Game Library that came bundled with my system for sale.

I'm asking $50.00 for the library which includes:

Chessmaster 3000
Monkey Island
Stellar 7
Loom

Also have the following CD's for sale:

Time Table of History (Science & Innovation)  $20.00

US & World Atlas  $25.00

Will consider reasonable offers. Trades only if local.

Thanks.....Bob


... OFFLINE 1.50  "Live from Central Texas...."
* LAKOTA v1.0

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2387
  To: BRAD RILEY                               Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: Re: RED HOT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
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>>    I must say, Boris, that you are good to deal with and have
>>    fair prices. I bought my rom and a disk from you and had a
>>    little trouble setting it up but you helped me out over the
>>    phone.  Have a great day from KC Mo

Always nice to hear from one of our many happy customers !!

I think you'll enjoy our NEW CATALOGUE as well. You'll be getting it
in the mail very soon as well as our customer appreciation catalogue
also. A LOT OF SUPER LOW PRICED cd's in this one, so have your
Visa/MasterCard ready.....grin !!

Chat with you soon......

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2388
  To: JAMES HOGUE                              Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: Re: ORDER REC'D                         Refer: NONE
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>>    Brian, just a note of warning about ProPhone. I've been using
>>    it for about 6 months and have found the search engine to be
>>    VERY buggy. Some towns in the database will not be found by
>>    name but can be found by zip code. There are also GAPING holes
>>    in the data for example it finds only two pawn shops in
>>    Phoenix. It is quite week data wise in California and Florida.

>>    It is the best thing of its kind out there as long as you are
>>    aware of its short comings.

>>    Just wish someone would produce a CD that does what ProPhone is
>>    advertised to do.

James, there is and it's called " Phone Disk USA " !! Much better and
offers a more up to date database as well.

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad to
assist you further.

BTW: Yes..both versions are in stock.

Boris Osadciw

... What Bug! I left behind the roaches in New York!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2389
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: WHILE THEY LAST                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Officers Bookcase       Canadian Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
Chicano Datebase          PC-SIG Games            LaserTax On CD
Phoenix # 3               Jokes&Pranks            Learning Adventure
Business Assistant        World Travler           Sound Sensation
DeathStar Arcade          Colossal CookBook       ClipArt Goliath
Technotools               Our Solar System        Windoware

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress....... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2390
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: RED HOT SUMMER                          Refer: NONE
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$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2391
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
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 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2392
  To: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529               Date: 07/25/93  6:59p
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

S9> actually, i would like another one.  but i wonder if my toshiba 3401
S9> could be put into the external case you sell your 3201s in? i have
S9> to put more hardrive in my "other" computer and that means no place
S9> insdie for the cd. it needs to go external, but i'm not keen on on
S9> the price of the "box" by itself.  if i got an external from you,
S9> could i take the 3201 out and put in my 3401?

Yes, you could.  Rod Jensen has made the arrangements.

S9> btw - it was a treat reading the want ads from your town - one
S9> alwyas hears that the cost of living it high in calif and low in the
S9> south - well, your town and mine seem to be pretty comparable on
S9> supermarket ads and rent.

My area has a higher cost of living than some of the other areas of the
south.  Probably because of the higher concentration of engineers around
the Hewlett Packard, Morton-Thiokol, Marshall Space Flight Center,
Lockheed, Toshiba, Pioneer, Chrysler, Teledyne-Brown, Intergraph, and the
list goes on.


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2393
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 07/26/93  1:11a
Subj: CDRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Some CDRoms for sale:

Source -- Gobs of C code                 $20.00   (MAR 92)
C User's Group  -- More Gobs of C code   $20.00   (OCT 92)
GIFs Galore -- 630 Megs of GIFs          $20.00   (1st ED)
CICA Windows -- 540 Megs of Windows      $15.00   (NOV 92)
Simtel -- over 600 Megs of DOS           $15.00   (DEC 92)
CDRom News Vol.1 Iss.2 -- NEXT/LINUX     $15.00
CDRom News Vol.1 Iss.3 -- NEXT/LINUX     $15.00
Hobbes OS/2 -- tons o' OS/2              $15.00   (NOV 92)
Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order.
I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD.
For More Info contact:

Eric Bravick
14014 Halstead Ct. Apt #408
Tampa, FL. 33613

[phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2394
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  6:25a
Subj: SCSI CDROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00 with caddy.

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer.

205-837-5053




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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 2395
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/25/93  3:45p
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IG> 1.Loom
IG> 2.The Secret of Monkey Island

Isreal-

Sorry, no adults disks I want to trade, but I'll offer $32.90 for the above.
Reply here or Netmail. -Thank

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From: TONY MACE                              Number: 2396
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 07/25/93  8:22a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE WANTED                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Edward!

Friday July 23 1993 12:56, Edward Crouser wrote to Tony Mace:

 EC>         How much? I have one I might be willing to sell.

Sorry, already found a SCSI Toshiba one for my PAS16....

Tony

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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 2397
  To: DISK VENDORS                             Date: 07/20/93  8:53p
Subj: catalog request                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Please send a catalog to:


... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: JAMES PRICE                            Number: 2398
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  8:57p
Subj: CD-ROM CACHING????                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Is there a major <if any> improvement in caching a CD-rom with 435 ms
access time and 150kb transfer rate???

Is there a program that will Cache my CD-rom and my hard drive also??

Saw a public domain program, but it wouldn't work.  I think it said
something about the trial period expired.

If you use a Cache on your drive, please send me a note on how you
like it...



Thanks in advance.




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From: JAMES PRICE                            Number: 2399
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  8:57p
Subj: ENCYLCLOPEDIA                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am interested in purchasing a Multi-Media Encyclopedia, I would
prefer Windows MPC.

I noticed that Compton's has "Interactive", "MM" and "MPC" versions.
What are the differences feature wise between each???

I know MM is DOS and MPC is Windows.  Is Interactive Windows also??
Any added features in one version over the others?

Also noticed the Grolier's has multiple versions.

Which do you think is better?  And why?




Thanks in advance for your help.  Trying to decide which one to buy.





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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2400
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:55a
Subj: Re: DICT & LANG                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Bob Jackson <07-01-93 22:08> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS> It's going out to you today, along with the $6 shareware CD, and Oink
MS> 2 (for review).

What's Oink 2?  We haven't seen that one yet.  Or has my brother been hiding
the new smut stuff from me?  <grin>

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2401
  To: RICK MEENAN                              Date: 07/25/93 11:02a
Subj: Re: Looking For a cd-rom                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-12-93 15:25> Rick Meenan wrote:

RM> I've been looking for a CD-ROM containing GIF photos of porno stars.
RM> I'm pretty new at this so don't know what's out there that may have
RM> the material I'm looking for.  Therefore, anyone selling a CD-ROM(s) they
RM> think might be of help drop me a line.  I'd be interested in getting
RM> catalogs from anyone thinking they have what I'm looking for.  Let me
RM> know what's out there guys!

There are several adult titles available on the market.  Most of them
duplicate each other to a large degree.  I personally recommend finding a
reputable publisher, and sticking with them.  Lee Noga's discs are top-notch
and she's a regular participant here in the echos.  Look for Ecstasy Hot Pics
or Busty Babes at a dealer near you.  Of course, we stock both of them, and
you can give us a call at [phone] or [phone] for more
information.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2402
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/25/93 11:06a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Jeff Jenkins <07-11-93 21:58> J.p. Ladner wrote:

JL> I'm interested in this drive but I'm leary of a 150ms drive and
JL> software for only $200 ???

The Mitsumi is a low-cost drive, and can be found brand-new for as low as $175
if you shop around.  The going rate appears to be about $190.  I personally
don't recommend the drive, as whenever there's a disc returned to me as
defective, it works fine in our office.  I call the customer to inquire about
the type of drive they're using, and they ALWAYS say, "Mitsumi."  Seems the
Mitsumi has a problem reading many of the discs out there on the market.
HOWEVER, industry sources have indicated that Mitsumi has found a problem with
their controller card, and have corrected it.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
[phone] / [phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2403
  To: JOE STEVENS                              Date: 07/25/93 11:14a
Subj: Re: CD ROM...                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-13-93 17:07> Joe Stevens wrote:

JS> I am interested in Purchasing a CD ROM drive.  I have looked at
JS> several models... the one whick is the least expensive and still
JS> offers reasonable features is a mitsumi brand.  Does anyone out there
JS> have one and do you know if it is any good?  Also... I have been told
JS> it only has an 8 bit interface card... not a 16 bit.  What is the
JS> advantage to a 16 bit interface?

If you decide to go with the Mitsumi, make sure you get one of the "newer"
ones with 350ms access time, and a 16-bit controller.  The 16-bit controller
allows you more configuration options, which come in handy on a "busy" system.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2404
  To: JESSE SCHMELZER                          Date: 07/25/93 11:18a
Subj: Re: NIght Owl 9.0                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-12-93 04:32> Jesse Schmelzer wrote:

JS> Can anyone beat the 29.00 for night owl 9.0?? if so give me the # to
JS> order.

I may know someone who can fix you up:

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
[phone] / [phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2405
  To: KEITH SHEEHAN                            Date: 07/25/93 11:51a
Subj: Re: MS BOOKSHELF '93 MPC                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-10-93 21:30> Keith Sheehan wrote:

KS> Does any CD Distributer that advertises thier products on this echo
KS> have the 1993 edition of the Microsoft Bookshelf (MPC Version) for
KS> less than $129 that I've seen it for in such places as Elek-Tek &
KS> Comp USA. I was intereted in purchasing this disk but I don't want to
KS> spend on $129 on an electronic version of some books I already have!
KS> I can justify looking up things in the books for that price.

Give us a call, and I'm sure we can save you some serious money on that title.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
[phone] / [phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2406
  To: KEITH RITCHIE                            Date: 07/25/93  3:20p
Subj: Re: Winbox CD Problem                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-21-93 21:46> Keith Ritchie wrote:

KR>  I just got the Winbox Cd from Starvector and I am having a bear of a
KR> time getting it to work. It keeps lookingg for a Project1 file that
KR> is nowhere to be found. I checked the power.cfg file and it has the
KR> correct info. Help... it seems like a good CD from the Dir listing
KR> but it is worthless if you can't access it.

Call your dealer and ask for the "fix."  There is a slight problem with the
interface on some of the discs out there.  The fix is available from our BBS,
too.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
[phone] / [phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2407
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 07/25/93  3:23p
Subj: Re: Windows                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Dave Reed <07-21-93 06:46> Philip Polstra wrote:

PP>  DR> Get both discs for only $34!  Please mention
PP>  DR> that you saw the ad in FidoNet, because these discs are regularly
PP>  DR> sold for $34 each.
PP>
PP> Gee, I paid $39 not $34 when I bought them from ya just a week or too
PP> ago.

I set the prices, based on what I pay for the discs.  When I'm able to secure
better pricing, I pass that along to the customer.  You just happened to
purchase from the end of our previous inventory.  David charges what I tell
him to charge.  :-)

Next time you order, mention this, and I'm pretty sure we can give you a
discount on your next purchase to make up for the difference.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2408
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/25/93  3:26p
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-19-93 17:03> Manny Wise wrote:

MW> I was ready to buy it for 37.00...but them I hear someone said:it can
MW> be bough for 25.00 a piece..? Any true on that ???????????

Yes, sir.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2409
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/25/93  3:30p
Subj: Re: cd's shipping to canada??           Refer: NONE
Read: 07/27/93  8:02a                       Private: No

In a message to Kirk Rawnsley <07-23-93 06:28> Tim Helton wrote:

TH> Exporting adult material to Canada can be a hassle.... There must be
TH> 500 people working at the border censoring the material that enters
TH> the country.

I think it's more like 500 people at EACH POINT of entry into Canada!  :-)

Jackie

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2410
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  7:56p
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*********************************************************************
************************  CD-ROM International  *********************
************************      Adult Titles      *********************
*********************************************************************

101 Positions, Part 1        $45     My First Time (Things Change)$50
101 Positions, Part 2        $45     My Private Collection, Vol 1 $33
Adult Palate                 $38     My Private Collection, Vol 2 $33
Adult Reference Library      $30     Night Watch Interactive      $49
After Dark Trilogy           $45     PC-PIX, Vol 1                $33
All Beauties                 $28     PC-PIX, Vol 2                $33
Amateur Models               $37     PC-PIX, Vol 3                $33
Animation Fantasies v1.0     $33     Physical Therapy             $23
Asian Ladies                 $33     Porkware, Vol 1              $33
Best of Vivid Clips          $45     Porkware, Vol 2              $33
Busty Babes                  $29     Private Pictures             $33
Busty Babes v3               $35     Rimfire XXX Mini-Movies      $44
Club Expose                  $46     Seedy Movies Disc            $42
Digital Dancing              $49     Seedy Rom v1                 $27
Digital Dreams               $32     Seedy Rom v2                 $27
Dirty Talk                   $45     Seedy Rom v3                 $27
Doors of Passion             $45     Seedy Rom v4                 $27
Ecstacy Hot Pics             $38     Seedy Rom v5                 $27
Erotic Encounters            $33     Seedy Rom v6                 $27
GBL (Gay, Bi and Lesbian)    $33     Seedy Rom v7 (Seventh Heaven)$27
Giffy Gold                   $33     Seymore Butts                $49
Girls of Vivid               $40     Smutware                     $32
Girls of Vivid, Vol 2        $40     So Much StareWARE            $33
Hidden Obsessions            $49     Southern Beauties            $33
Hot Pix, Vol 2               $32     Storm 1                      $27
Hot Pix, Vol 3               $32     Storm 2                      $32
Hot Pix, Vol 4               $32     Storm 3                      $32
Hot Pix, Vol 5               $32     Swimwear '93                 $30
House of Dreams              $49     Visual Fantasies             $28
House of Sleeping Beauties   $44     Volcano                      $32
Kama Sutra                   $69     Wicked                       $58
Lovely Ladies                $33     Women of Venus               $34
Manpower                     $33     X-Treme                      $32
Moving Fantasies             $27     XXX Extreme                  $33

*********************************************************************
*****************  Credit Card and COD Orders Welcome  **************
*********************************************************************

       CD-ROM International             [phone]  (Orders)
       108 4th Ave SW                   [phone]  (Voice)
       PO Box 723                       [phone]  (BBS/Fax)
       Ephrata WA 98823-0723            1:344/79 (FidoNet)

     Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS
*********************************************************************


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2411
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/25/93  7:34a
Subj: REVIEW OF "DIGITAL DREAMS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Yep, Lee's sent me a copy of BB3. Haven't had the cjance to go through it
thoroughly yet, but "Showoff" looks very interesting. You can expect a
thorough DD-like review of it shortly. (And thanks for the kind words!)

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From: KEITH SATURN                           Number: 2412
  To: CHRISTIAN SMITH                          Date: 07/25/93  6:21p
Subj: MAP CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Christian Smith to All <=-

 CS> I heard there is a CD that has every street in the US on it. IF
 CS> anyone knows what it is can you tell me the cost of it.

Are you looking for a map of every street or a CrissCross Directory type of
thing?  If you're looking for the directory type of thing, so am I.  I think
one of the national phone books on CD might do the trick!.

                        Keith Saturn.

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From: KEITH SATURN                           Number: 2413
  To: ANDREW HUIGE                             Date: 07/25/93  6:21p
Subj: looking for a diask                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Andrew Huige to All <=-

 AH> ─All,
 AH> I heard of a disk with well over 450 files, I am looking for a
 AH> disk to  start a bbs with, so if you have any suggestions where I can

Why settle for 450 files? I used the Simtel20 CD on my BBS and that had over
7500 files!  Simtel@0 CDs  can be ordered at 1-800-786-9907.  I don't work
for them, I'm just satisfied with what they had to offer!  You can also try
some of the vendor's in this echo.

                        Keith Saturn.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2414
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  7:16p
Subj: Review of Busty Babes #3                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

First, many thanks to "Lady Lee" (Noga) of Florida Lion's Den, Inc.
for sending me a copy of "Busty Babes Volume #1 Release 3.0" (BB3) for
review.

Secondly, this review will follow the format, style, and content
paradigms that were used in my reviews of "Digital Dreams" (Ero Tek) and
"Pork Ware I" inasmuch as there will be three parts: Statistics,
Operations, and Visual.  I will use the same criteria as I outlined in my
previous descriptions of those parts.

Thirdly, having learned that FidoNet can tolerate reasonably long posts,
I'll use only three messages for this review, one for each of the parts
named above.

Finally, remember, WHAT FOLLOWS IS ONE PERSON'S OPINION.  While I try
very hard to be as objective as possible in writing these reviews,
(objectivity is part of what I do to satisfy Maslow), individual
preferences, both mine and yours, will always introduce some level of
subjectivity, particularly in the operations and visual parts.  All set?
Here we go.....

Statistics
==========

This section focuses on numerical data relative to the physical contents
of the CD.

Let me begin by stating that measuring the exact number of files on a CD
isn't as simple as it may sound, nor all that important.  Most CDs these
days have thousands of files on them, particularly image CDs and
shareware CDs.  While one might assume that a simple DIR would suffice,
it won't.  First, DIR will count the . and .. subdirectory "files" (note:
these have been taken into account in the figures below).  Secondly, even
when using DIR with a "qualifier" like *.GIF, a directory may show files
that aren't actually there, or are corrupted in some way that makes them
useless and therefore might as well not be there.  Finally, what my
CD-ROM drive can read, yours may not, and vice-versa.  Accordingly, when
I give various counts and sizes and you subsequently find that your stats
don't EXACTLY agree with mine, don't take it too hard.

BB3 disclosed a count of 2663 GIF files (not counting the catalog
files - more on those later) totaling 499 Mb.  That yields an
average byte size of 187 Kb per GIF which is consistent with the
observation that most of the GIFs are either 800x600 or 640x480 in
resolution and most occupy relatively large portions of the screen when
displayed normally.  All told, the CD disclosed 3278 files occupying 528
Mb.  The difference of 615 files is accounted for by the 200 catalog GIF
files and by the utilities and other programs included on the CD.

Comparing BB3 GIF files names against my those in my data base taken from
BB1 (Rel. 1 not Rel. 2), I found 1731 duplicate names.  Had I been able
to run the comparison against BB2, doubtless a larger number would have
been forthcoming.  Run against the whole data base, an additional 398
duplicate names were found.  These numbers indicate that BB3 is indeed
just as her producer advertised: essentially a re-make of BB2 to correct
past "sins", at least as far as the GIF files are concerned.

Within BB3 itself, I found 10 GIF files that were duplicated.  That is,
there are 10 pairs of files where each member of a pair contains exactly
the same image.  One of the pairs even shares the same name:
"L_HONEY5.GIF" which appears in two different directories.  The other
nine pairs have different names and appear in the same or different
directories as their "image mates".

Operations to follow...


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2415
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  7:17p
Subj: Review of Busty Babes #3                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Visual
======

This part of the review focuses on the visual merits of the CD's imagery
as judged by this reviewer.  Accordingly, it is more subjective than
either of the two preceding parts. and should be taken as such.

Like its forebearers, BB3 is a full-blown X-rated CD.  Some of its images
are as raw as raw legally gets.  It's worth noting that a large number of
the scans are R-rated in that, outside of exhibitionism, no sexual
activity is depicted at all.  This is primarily true of the "BUSTYn"
directories (0 <= n <= 6).

Comparing BB3 GIF files names against my those in my data base taken from
BB1 (Rel. 1 not Rel. 2), I found 1731 duplicate names.  Had I been able
to run the comparison against BB2, doubtless a larger number would have
been forthcoming.  Run against the whole data base, an additional 398
duplicate names were found.  These numbers indicate that BB3 is indeed
just as her producer advertised: essentially a re-make of BB2 to correct
past "sins", at least as far as credits for the GIF files are concerned.

Within BB3 itself, I found 10 GIF files that were duplicated.  That is,
there are 10 pairs of files where each member of a pair contains exactly
the same image.  One of the pairs even shares the same name:
"L_HONEY5.GIF" which appears in two different directories.  The other
nine pairs have different names and appear in the same or different
directories as their "image mates".  There may be other pairs, but I
didn't detect them with my computer-aided processes.

Like it predecessors, BB3's images are by and large quite good.
Certainly they are on a par with contemporary releases.  Most images are
either 640x480 or 800x600 in resolution.  The scans are generally sharp
and professional looking in appearance.  If you already have one or two
of the more popular adult image CDs, (e.g. Ecstasy, FAO, Seedy ROM, etc.)
you'll feel right at home with the quality of BB3's pictures.

As previously mentioned, BB3's directory structure is an improvement over
BB1 and BB2, IMHO.  In addition, there are some scans that aren't in
either of the predecessor volumes - not enough to warrant purchase solely
based on that fact, but nice lagniappe if you're going to buy the disk
anyway.  Finally, there's a truly new directory in that all of its images
(some 115 of them) are definitely not in either BB1 or BB2.  That is the
"MICHELLA" directory and it's contents are exclusively scans of a lady by
that name.  These scans are soft and generally dark.  They're pleasant
enough; mostly "R to hard R" and frequently with an unnamed lady friend
in tender-looking poses.  If I had to chose a single word, on the whole
(no pun intended) I'd call them artistic.

In sum, if you're looking for an adult CD with a variety of subject
matter, BB3 would be a good choice.  If you're a true collector, you'll
probably want BB3 to complete the set; I'm sure FLD's not planning a Rel.
4.0 - there'd be no point to it.  Release 1.0 is already a collector's
item;  Release 2.0 doesn't surrender anything meaningful to Release 3.0
in image content; Release 3.0's raison d'etre, outside of some mea culpa
rapair work, is SO.  There's just no more mileage in this collection.

So, Lee, what'cha got up your sleeves for us next?  Whatever it is, make
sure SO hangs in there!
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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 2416
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  4:10p
Subj: TCM Newsletter...                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TCM Computing and Night Owl Publishers, Inc. are currently working on
several joint projects in order to make available the very best in
CD-ROM Shareware.  Based on the rave reviews and comments we have
received about version 9, we are succeeding in that goal.  We have
several new products under development which we are very excited about.

TCM periodically sends out a newsletter to let our customers know about
upcoming releases and other news relating to Night Owl.  We also offer
those receiving the newsletter substantial discounts on Night Owl CDs
(and occasionally on PC hardware).

We will be sending out another newsletter (hopefully with some special
announcements and offers) in about a month.  For those of you who have
received the newsletter in the past, and those who have purchased any
products from TCM, you are on our mailing list.

If you are NOT on our mailing list, but would like to get the latest
Night Owl news (along with info on discounts we do not advertise in
the e-mail nets), you may do one of the following:

    - leave a message here with your name & address (R/O preferred)
    - call our BBS and leave a message to the sysop
    - send us a Fax with your n/a
    - call our voice line (leave the info on our machine if we
      aren't around)
    - Drop us a line via US Mail

TCM has been affliated with Night Owl for more than 3 years now.  We
have been active in the actual preparation of all disks since v3.
If you want the latest news and deals on Night Owl, get on our mailing
list!

         TCM BBS - Official Night Owl Support Board

       Authorized Distributor (call for volume pricing)

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2417
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/25/93 11:26p
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello There Jackie!

In a message to All <07/25/93> Jackie Rogers wrote:

JR> *********************************************************************
JR> ************************  CD-ROM International  *********************
JR> ************************      Adult Titles      *********************
JR> *********************************************************************


JR>      Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS
JR> *********************************************************************

Nice prices...........

JR> ... If Clinton is the answer, it must have been a stupid question!

Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

John

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From: TAMI THOMPSON                          Number: 2418
  To: PETER CLAUSEN                            Date: 07/25/93  9:04p
Subj: CDROM + Amiga 2000 + Zeus=? Yes or No   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PC> The Zeus came with a startup-icon for removable
 PC> media that one supposedly drops into the start-up
 PC> drawer (I'm running AmigaDos 2.1), but this does
 PC> not help me any.  Is this just for things like
 PC> Syquests and the like?  Not CD's?
 PC> So I guess I need to get Xetec's driver to make things work?
Yes, you need the Xetec, or another such as AsimWare (my personal preference),
file system to get the CDROM to work w/the Amiga.  Either of these will also
let you emulate a CDTV, enabling you to run CDTV disks (please note, neither
gives you 100% compatibility to run all CDTV disks).  Good luck, and have fun!
-Tami

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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 2419
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/26/93  9:33a
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 HK> Thanks for the message on the encyclopedia. I've had one other person
 HK> contact me on it, and I left them a message back. If they decide not to
 HK> take the CD, I'll drop you a note again to see if you want it.

         I sure would like that. I am holding the 28.00 for this purpose
alone and I wouldn't buy Ice cream with that money, in this heat. Tnxx.

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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 2420
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 07/22/93  3:22p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 07-15-93  00:18 Peter Dettelis shared these words of wisdom:

 PD> Congratulations to you and Herb on your new home purchase.

Herb starts a new job on Monday, who knows when we'll finish getting the
house in shape!

 PD> Some discs that I use are "Computer Select," a CD-ROM disc of one full
 PD> year of the largest number of computer magazines available on disc
 PD> (i.e., PC World, PC Mag, etc.)

Don't think I've seen that one in the online catalogs. What does it
cost?

 PD> and "World Library," a CD-ROM disc of
 PD> about a thousand publications including all Shakespear's writings, all
 PD> Sherlock Holmes stories, and several other written works.  Several
 PD> other companies have started producing their own discs of literary
 PD> works like Nimbus and the Bureau of Electronic Publishing.  The

Primarily looking for general-interest nonfiction (for work anyway).  I
do have the Best of the Bureau. It suffers from weak search/retrieval,
in that it allows only an entire article (as opposed to a user-selected
portion) to be output to disk. I infer (perhaps incorrectly) that the
full-size Bureau publications have the same problem. Do you know if that
is the case?

 PD> dollars.  Newsweek on CD-ROM, with video and sound clips will be
 PD> released shortly and several other new releases will be geared towards

Have you heard anything about its pricing?

 PD>  ! Origin: COSUG BBS: Colorado Springs PC User Group 719-442-1612

New BBS #... new sysop?


... I used to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2421
  To: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                        Date: 07/25/93  7:47a
Subj: Re: TRADE ADULT CD FOR ADULT CD ?       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 23 Jul 93  16:39:50, I heard Jerry Gerolymatos shout to Kevin Plummer:

JG> I'll give you money for the Volcano cd if you don't mind, cause I don't hav
JG> any other cd like that. Just tell me the price.

Well, I would have rathered traded for it, But...  The Disk is like brand New,
I think it was used maybe 6 or 7 times, I put it On-Line for my users, and
they really didn't use it, Soooo, I want to get another disk.  So how about
$28.00 and you pay shipping ???


                   ......|<evin

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From: EARL HARSHBARGER                       Number: 2422
  To: MICHAEL MULCAHY                          Date: 07/16/93  3:07p
Subj: Re: Encyclopedia CD's                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 * Reply to msg originally in CDROM For Sale (Fido)

 -=> Quoting Terry Blount to Michael Mulcahy <=-

 MM> I am looking for an Encyclopedia CD collection that my  children
 MM> can utilize as a good reference for school.  I have  heard  that

 TB> I carry the 1992 21 volume Grolier"Academic America Encyclopedia"
 TB> for $69.  This is the best encyclopedia I have seen.  It includes

 I can vouch for the Grolier Encyclopedia.  We received as part of a package
 that came with a computer we purchased for our school.  It is so easy to
 use.  The students love it.  It (the CD) is much cheaper than buying the
 hardcopy set and it easier to purchase a new edition every couple of years.
 You might be able to find a better price than the above, I think I saw it
 for as low as $49.  It is a great package for the price.

 Hope this helps.

 --Earl


... Two most common elements in the universe: Hydrogen & Stupidity.
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2423
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93 10:05a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Rel. 3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <07-24-93 06:53> Bob Jackson wrote:


BJ>> Just a short note for now saying that BB3 has arrived safe and sound.

Great--Remember it is still Volumn 1 but release/version 3.0 of that volumn!
Don't want the user's to think it is Vol III--

Thanks !

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2424
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/25/93 10:29a
Subj: SHOWOFF! Interface-The 90's             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Bob Jackson <07-22-93 12:45> Vince Sorensen wrote:

VS>> I think the interface for Busty Babes Release 3.0 is
VS>> the best, period, and I've _made_ excellent interfaces for other
VS>> Of course, I'm biased because I distribute it (and Erotek's Digital
VS>> Dreams), but I use much less bandwidth for my propaganda <g>!

Ahh Vince--Your so sweet, but it has nothing to do with 'Bias'--SHOWOFF! was
developed by a team of PhD's that decided the user lacked a true imaging
toolbox--SHOWOFF is the technology that was destined to replace VPIC and CSHOW
etc--It has a better color pallette, and it allows you to manage your image
collection which is the plus here--The other packages just allow you to view
the image with clumbsy configurations--This package auto detects your video
needs and self installs, finds the dupes images on your drives, allows you to
build pages of images (1 to 1,024), magnifies any portion of the image many
times, and so on--The shareware version of this is on the Busty Babes in
addition to the scaled down version licensed to us as the interface--So you
have 2 goodies to play with on Busty ! Yes, the entire shareware version is on
the disc as well--

Can't wait until the windows version of this is ready ! You'll find it on our
future discs as well-

Thanks for the 'Kudo' !

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: WILLIAM BYRD                           Number: 2425
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93  6:12p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Rel. 3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bob,

  I hope you find this disk to be of as good of quality as I have so far.  I
especially like the ease of use that Showoff provides over its predecessor on
the original BB disk.  The quality of both the disk and material on it are in
my own personal opinon outstanding.  This disk shows us that pride in a job
well done is not yet dead in America.  Granted that some out there may not
approve of this type of material but that being beside the point this disk is
of the highest quality workmanship I've seen lately.

Wm.

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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 2426
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  5:18p
Subj: NEW CD RELEASE - Southern Beauties      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          **********  Graphical Images of Florida, Inc. **********
             Announces The NEW RELEASE of   "Southern Beauties"
                A Fully Commercial - Fully Copyrighted Disc

675 Megs-OVER 65 Top Models-1000 GIFs-1024x768x256 From Original 35mm Slides
Includes 300 Megs of the Best GIFs in 24 bit True Color. Installs Quickly &
Easily - Menu Driven - User Friendly - Popup Help Menus - Mouse Support -
Keyword Search - Sound Blaster Front Loader - Multiple Directory Slide Show

To Order Contact: Faye Sharp at Tradeshows Inc. 317-651-9848 or 317-651-1223

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2427
  To: CHAD NEWMAN                              Date: 07/25/93 10:22p
Subj: Trade for Adult CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CN>I would like to trade "Cream of the Crop" Shareware CD (valued at $39.00) fo
CN>an Adult CD.  I have a few other games I'm willing to through in for the tra

How about a copy of Pc-Pix Volume II?

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2428
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:28p
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>We have two brand new ones:  Southern Beauties and Amateur Models, both of
MS>which **I believe** are all original scans.  $35 ea. or both for $69.

Mike,
You still have my address, right? Send them both to me, please. BTW, you
DID get the disk I returned, right? Terry

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2429
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:30p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike,

MS>1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,

Send me this one, too, ok?

MS>4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities, debuggers,

And this one...

MS>5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,

And this one...

Thanks,
Terry

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2430
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:31p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>8.  CLIPART GOLIATH - Over 10,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats, plus

Send me this one too, please...

MS>12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for all

And this one.

Thanks,
Terry

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From: TONY CASTORINO                         Number: 2431
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 07/24/93  8:55p
Subj: Re: $15 OFF CREAM OF THE CROP           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Terry.. Please add me to your mailing list...

                         Tony Castorino
                         P.O. Box 1462
                         Santa Clarita, CA 91386-0462

Thanks....

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From: JASON PAUL                             Number: 2432
  To: PETER CLAUSEN                            Date: 07/25/93 10:46p
Subj: CDROM + Amiga 2000 + Zeus               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PC>I just receieved a Toshiba XM-3201B Drive from this echo.

I am using the same cdrom drive on my Amiga 3000

PC>I think the drive is fine, but can't get it to work on my Zeus equipped
PC>Amiga 2000.

It should work.

PC>The Zeus came with a startup-icon for removable media that one supposedly
PC>drops into the start-up drawer (I'm running AmigaDos 2.1), but this does
PC>not help me any.  Is this just for things like Syquests and the like?  No
PC>CD's?

Yes, don't use this for your cdrom drive.

PC>My SCSI Toolbox that came with my Zeus card does 'see' the Toshiba as one
PC>of the SCSI devices attached to my controller.

I can also see it but don't do ANYTHING with toolbox.

PC>So I guess I need to get Xetec's driver to make things work?

You need Xetecs drivers or amiga dos 3.1 to see and run your cdrom drive.  The
drivers are only $50.00 and you get the fred fish CD.  It is a great deal.

PC>The tech guy at Buslogic told me COREL SCSI might be the ticket.  Anyone
PC>have any thoughts on this?

Corel Scsi is drivers for cdrom drives on a PC system.  Wouldn't do you any
good unless you have a bridgeboard and an IBM scsi controller.

Hope this helps you out!

-=-
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 2433
  To: JOHN ROBINSON                            Date: 07/26/93  1:02a
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello JOHN!

Sunday July 25 1993, JOHN ROBINSON writes to JACKIE ROGERS:

 JR>> Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS

 JR> Nice prices...........

 JR>> ... If Clinton is the answer, it must have been a stupid question!

 JR> Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

I'm proud of her.  As more of the silent majority become vocal about their
political feelings, Clinton's going to feel like a little man in a big house,
real soon now.  At this rate, I'll be able to publish a CD-ROM full of
Clinton's mistakes by the end of summer.  He's such a joke, I'll have to market
it as a comedy, though.  ;-)


... My Broad Based Contribution - Kick Hillory in the butt!

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2434
  To: JOHN ROBINSON                            Date: 07/26/93  5:56a
Subj: Re: Adult Titles                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to JACKIE ROGERS <07-25-93 23:26> JOHN ROBINSON wrote:

JR> ... If Clinton is the answer, it must have been a stupid question!
JR>
JR> Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

I'll have to have a talk with the sysop of the BBS I post from.  Although I
consider myself to lean towards the conservative side of the spectrum, I'd
rather leave the politics out of business.

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2435
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/26/93  7:57a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> "Mitsumi."  Seems the Mitsumi has a problem reading many of the discs out
> there on the market. HOWEVER, industry sources have indicated that
> Mitsumi has found a problem with their controller card, and have
> corrected it.
How many Mitsumi have you sold? And what is your technical back-ground?

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2436
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/26/93  6:59a
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello There Dave!

In a message to John Robinson <07/26/93> Dave Reed wrote:


DR> I'm proud of her.  As more of the silent majority become vocal about thei
DR> political feelings, Clinton's going to feel like a little man in a big ho
DR> real soon now.  At this rate, I'll be able to publish a CD-ROM full of
DR> Clinton's mistakes by the end of summer.  He's such a joke, I'll have to
DR> market it as a comedy, though.  ;-)

Your Political Views and dislike of the Present "Gentleman" in office have
no Place in a CD-ROM echo.. It can only turn those for or against Clinton
against you for advertising it.!!

If you were to make a CD full of jokes, Add in the past few "Good Old Boys"
that proceeded Clinton...Talk about a JOKE.!!  Lets see, One resigned
rather then be prosecuted.. Another one put the country so far in Debt
it will never get out and the last one SAT ON That guys KNEE and had his
mouth Manipulated..... Talk about the THREE STOOGES.!!

Life is tough when it isn't going your way isn't it.???

DR> ... My Broad Based Contribution - Kick Hillory in the butt!

Why, She is the "FIRST" one that has been in the White house in a long time
that had any Brains.. Do you have a problem with the fact she is a
        SMART "Broad" as you label her.??

Before I forget Dave... The CD "DOES NOT" Stand for "CLINTON DEBATE" incase
you think you are in the right area to advertise your Dislike for some
one.! ...
Enough said on the issue of the President.. Now, Do you sell CD-ROM's or
just bash other people who do.????????

John

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2437
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/26/93  7:18a
Subj: Re: Adult Titles                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello There Jackie!

In a message to John Robinson <07/26/93> Jackie Rogers wrote:

JR> JR> Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

JR> I'll have to have a talk with the sysop of the BBS I post from.  Although
JR> consider myself to lean towards the conservative side of the spectrum, I'
JR> rather leave the politics out of business.

Not a bad idea.. I would not consider buying from a vendor who shows their
dislike for some one in their advertisments.. Be it the President or anyone
else for that Matter..

John

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2438
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 07/25/93  2:07p
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DP> There was a bug in the original version.  You can freq the "fix"
 DP> from us as


Dave:

I'd left you a copule of messages on your BBS regarding an add'l problem
with WINBox: Trying to view .TXT files from within a ZIPped file causes
the viewer to instantly minimize without displaying the file. Any ideas
what's causing this? I've logged back in a couple of times but didn't
see any messages to me.
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2439
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93  6:23p
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ> PR> AFTERDARK  CDX - After Dark Trilogy                    37.00 clips from
three movies; "In too Deep", "Bad Side of Town", "The Damp Spot", and "Three
Women" as a bonus.
BJ> PR> ALLBEAUTIE CDX - All Beauties                          26.00
BJ> PR> AMATEURMOD CDX - Amateur Models                        30.00
Professional photographs of amateur models
BJ> PR> DIRTYTALK  CDX - Dirty Talk                            41.00
BJ> PR> EXOTICGIRL CDX - Exotic Girls                          27.00
BJ> PR> FOXES      CDX - Foxes                                 29.00
BJ> PR> HOUSEOFSLE CDX - House of Sleeping Beauties            43.00
interactive....
BJ> PR> WICKEDPWIN CDX - Wicked Photo CD Windows               48.00

BJ>Would be interested in finding our more about these titles. Do you ha
BJ>descriptions, data, etc. on them?

That's all I've got on 'em, so far......

Hope this helps, Bob.

Pat

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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 2440
  To: BRAD RILEY                               Date: 07/25/93  3:55p
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for reply..I ordered it for 25.00

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From: DUANE A. FLOYD                         Number: 2441
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/26/93  7:02a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you have a catalog, could you please send me one????

Address:

Duane A. Floyd
1266 Holly Oak Drive
Randleman, NC 27317

Thanks.

C-Ya on the BBS Waves

Duane "|>affy" Floyd


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From: DUANE A. FLOYD                         Number: 2442
  To: MARK ABACCHI                             Date: 07/26/93  7:04a
Subj: Catalog                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you have a catalog, could you send me one???

Address:

Duane A. Floyd
1266 Holly Oak Drive
Randleman, NC 27317

Thanks.

C-Ya on the BBS Waves.

Duane "|>affy" Floyd


... I know a good tagline when I steal one.
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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 2443
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 07/26/93 12:31p
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

thanks

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From: VERNON MELTON                          Number: 2444
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/26/93 12:23a
Subj: Re: Pier 2 CD-ROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                    -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

Mike,
     Just a note to say thanks for the CD.  It's a real nice one, and very
easy to set up with a BBS.
Later,
     Vernon Melton

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From: TONY MASSEY                            Number: 2445
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93  9:07p
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MB>MB> By the way, dis I tell you that Terry Woodward ripped me off?

MB> MS> You keep saying that.  Out of curiosity, what would the actual
MB> MS> monetary damages be in this case?  Can you give us an accurate
MB> MS> damage assessment for this "ripoff", expressed in whole dollars?
MB> MS> I think we'd all like to know if your prolonged character
MB> MS> assassination is actually warranted in relation to your
MB> MS> out-of-pocket expenses.

MB>Those "damages", as you call them, would amount to approx. $20-$25.  We were
MB>to each ccover our own shipping, approx $2.90, which I did, so say no more
MB>that $27.50 max., $22.90 min.
MB>This has not been a "prolonged character assasination", as you say.  It is
MB>simply my right to try and prevent myself or anyone else from being on the
MB>receiving end of a bad deal.  BTW, I thought you did'nt want to be involved.

Out of curiosity, Why not get a Conference set up for "Better Business
Complaints" or "How Not to Get Ripped Off" or something like that.  That
way, when someone is ready to buy something, they can check and seeby
Subject and address the company or person directly and in detail.  It
may also make sellers aware that they run the risk of getting called if
they have "Shady Business Practices", and protect the consumer, as well
as show people who the "whiners" are, thus protecting the Sellers.

BTW, I am not saying that anyone is wrong, just that it would be nice to
check by name, then take that incident to the seller and say "Is this
going to happen to me???", and please, I am not directing any remarks at
anyone, just a possible safeguard for consumers and sellers.

Tony
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From: TONY MASSEY                            Number: 2446
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/24/93  9:13p
Subj: Benge debacle                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TW>TH>I heard that!  If you need any on-site help, I volunteer ;).

I'll volunteer to hold the light, get the coffee, warm the chairs,
anything!!!

TW>The new one is 19, strawberry blonde, and cute as a bug. One of the
TW>other ones developed an attitude problem. So I shot her...

Does that mean you'll have pictures of women with 2 belly buttons???<G>

Tony
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From: TONY MASSEY                            Number: 2447
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/24/93  9:21p
Subj: BOTTOM LINE PRICING                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike,

I was impressed by the way you seem to do business, please send me a
catalog, or put me on a mailing list if you have one:

Tony Massey
118 Miner Street
Malvern, PA  19355

Thanks,

Tony
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From: TONY MASSEY                            Number: 2448
  To: BOB KELLY                                Date: 07/24/93 10:15p
Subj: HERE WE ARE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BK>BK> BK> TM>BK>SQ>    Cheers BBS in beautiful Cambridge, Ontario, Canada is
BK>BK> BK> TM>BK>SQ>    proud to be carrying this echo !!
BK>BK> BK>
BK>BK> BK> TM>BK>And I'm so proud you told us about it...
BK>BK> BK>
BK>BK> BK> TM>And I'm so proud that you're so proud that Cheers told us
BK>BK> BK> TM>about it!!!

I said this, but I think BK, BK, ans SQ said the others!!!

BK>BK> BK>
BK>BK> BK> My pleasure! Anyone else out there proud about this?
BK>BK>
BK>BK>     I'm proud too!! I'm also proud that we have the same
BK>BK>initials!!!

BK>Who said what above?


Tony
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From: GARY SHADE                             Number: 2449
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/25/93  6:30p
Subj: Libel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Overheard Michael Benge  to Terry Woodward on the subject of Libel

MB> TW> anything he wants. My next action
MB> TW> will be to see relief under
MB> TW> Policy Four, which guarantees Fido
MB> TW> members protection from
MB> TW> harassment. I will file a formal
MB> TW> compliant with my RC.
MB>
MB> you did not like the disc I sent
MB>you, things worked out well for you,
MB>giving you, as you profess to believe,
MB>reason to mail my disc back instead.  The
MB>statement that you stole from me
MB>still stands....... The right thing
MB>for you to do is send me the PC II rom
MB>and $2.90,


Icredible - Mike if you're only out $2.90 for the postage - chalk it up to
doing business through the mails and quit your whinning.

One this is crystal clear to me Mike - I'd never do business with you
through the mail or any other way. I think your tirade has gone on long
enough and in this instance has had the opposite effect in that I'd never
do business with such a whinner - especially one who is complaining about
a couple of bucks.

Isn't there a moderator here who can drop Mike if he insists on keeping
this up????




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From: MIKE FURST                             Number: 2450
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/26/93  7:57p
Subj: Buy 3 Get A Powerpak Fre                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>          -------------* 3 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!! *--------------

MS>               BUY THIS:                             GET THIS FREE:
  >  *-----------------------------------*       *--------------------------*
  >  |   ADULT 3-PAK SPECIAL:            |       |                          |
  >  |                                   |       |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0     |
  >  | 1.  ALL BEAUTIES (gif, fli, gl)   |       |     REVISED EDITION      |
  >  | 2.  HOT PIX 5                     |       |                          |
  >  | 3.  AMATEUR MODELS (gif, tiff)    |       |     650+MB OF GREAT      |
  >  |                         *-----*   |       |        SHAREWARE!        |
  >  *-------------------------| $89 |---*       *--------------------------*
  >                            *-----*

MS> Get the three newest and hottest adult CD's on the market for the super
  > low price of only $89, and receive a PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware CD
  > absolutely free!  This offer is for a limited time only, so hurry!

Greetings Mike,
  I was just browsing the CD-ROM echo and noticed your getting it from
all sides!!! So what do I say? Damn the Torpedoes! Use the
Photon's..they do more damage!!
 Anyway, I was wondering if you plan to offer something like above with
one of the CD's being Digital Dreams instead ? I'd also appreciate a
catalog if you have any and I could get copies out in the Las Vegas area
(friends....you know the type.....<g>).
 My Address:
 Mike Furst
 3833 Iverson Lane
 North Las Vegas, NV 89030
                                       THANKS!!

___
 X QMPro 1.0 12-3456 X How do I set my laser printer to stun?

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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 2451
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/26/93  7:21p
Subj: Specials / Mailing                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  IA> Several of you have been writing or calling about our SPECIALS. We do
  IA> our advertise our monthly specials via postal mail. If you like to be
  IA> in our mailing list, please send your information to: GroupWare 4826
  IA> Tacoma Mall Blvd Tacoma, WA 98409 1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
  IA> 1-206-473-1634 or 1-800-277-5179 FAX We have hundreds of titles in
  IA> stock with great prices!..

Ismail, Pls add my name address to your catalog mailing list

Mike Mulcahy
9300 Hamilton Drive
Fairfax, VA 22031
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From: VINCENT KAYE                           Number: 2452
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/27/93  6:43p
Subj: nightowl 9                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Manny!

Friday July 23 1993, Manny Wise writes to Vincent Kaye:

 >> Now back to busines...How much for NightOwl's 9.0?
 >> Thanks, good "old" buddy...:)...

 MW>> I just got it for 25.00..from 1-800-638-5757....5.00 shipping though...

     Thanks...I will persue it...!

     Vince...

# Origin: Gigs, Gigs and Gigs of Files...Two CD-ROM Drives and Ten CDs!

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 2453
  To: DAVID BALNITES                           Date: 07/28/93 12:41a
Subj: CD File Descriptions                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DB> I  am  thinking   of   buying   Night   Owl  9   and  i   was
 DB> wondering if there is a utility
 DB>   that   will   convert   the   PCBoard    type    multi-line
 DB>  Descriptions  into  the   new   RemoteAccess   2.00g1   type
 DB> multi-line Descriptions.


 I wrote one the other day to do that for someone.  I'll  make  it
 available for you to file  request  under  the  name  magic  name
 PCB2RA from me at 3625/441.  This  utility  will  also  work  for
 converting the PCBoard multi-line file descriptions to work  with
 Maximus and Quick BBS.

 Here are the docs...


 It  is written to work on the DIR* PCBoard type  files  found  in
 the /TEXT directory of cds set up with the "more" prompt.    This
 is what you should do to run this program:

 Make a directory and copy ALL the DIR* files from the rom's /TEXT
 directory.  Assuming your cd  drive  is  G:   you  can  do  this:

 Md \text
 cd\text
 xcopy G:\text\.


 Next you can put Mike.exe in your path or in the \text  directory
 then type and enter "Mike Dir*"


 When the program finishes the listings will  be  saved  to  files
 with the same name BUT with an "!" as the first character.   i.e.
 !Dir1    !Dir2   etc.

 If you are satisfied with the results of the new  format  of  the
 "!" files you can delete all the dir* files then change the  name
 of all the !dir* files to whatever you like.


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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 2454
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  6:14p
Subj: ADULT CD-ROMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G     *******   **  **  ***** ****** **    **
 e    **    **  **  **  **      **    **  **
  t   *******   **  **  *****   **     ****
      **    **  **  **     **   **      **
      *******    ****   *****   **      **

Hey Canadians!

We've got BUSTY BABES... The best adult disc, period.
Features thousands of sizzling pictures of the bustiest
babes in North America including (yes!) Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF (it rocks!), and it's BBS Ready.

Starting July 24th, you can get an extra bonus: your
copy will be hand-signed by moi, since I'm one of the
Canadian models <g>!      (Yes, I go all the way!)

Get BUSTY BABES, release 3.0 for a special price of $50
that includes all taxes. PLUS there's no delay or worry
about an unscheduled stop at customs, because they're
shipped direct to you from within Canada!

Only from CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA.

6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk., S4N 4G7
306-789-4654 Voice    306-789-8690 Fax


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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 2455
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  9:24p
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

            CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA...306-789-4654
                  SAMPLE TITLES FROM OUR CATALOG
          -----------------------------------------------
AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK - FANTAZIA FONTS  - TEMPRA ACCESS
ANIMALS MULTIMEDIA          - SCI-FI/FANTASY  - CD WINBOX
ARTHUR'S TEACHER TROUBLE    - GAMES 1993      - SWIMWEAR '93
BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SCHOOL  - KINGS QUEST 5   - WINDOWS 1993
MIXED UP MOTHER GOOSE       - NIGHT OWL 9     - RETURN TO THE MOON
EDUCATION MASTER            - LEARNING FRENCH - PUBLISHER'S DREAM DISK
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF CLIP ART    - KIDS CAN READ   - MAYO CLINIC
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2456
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/27/93 12:48a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes, before 3.0.            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>>> Are you saying that you still stock the *ORIGINAL*  Rel 1.0 BB?

>>    I doubt it, I am sure he has 2.0--The 1.0's are real scarce
>>    and I have had dealers trying to find them for their own
>>    collection--

>>    Release 1.0---Has no text stories  (Pressed in Nov 92) only
>>    3,000 copies Release 2.0---Has the text stories (pressed in
>>    Jan 93) only 5,000 copies Release 3.0---Has 3.0 written on the
>>    cover and has SHOWOFF interface.

>>    PS--Sent you the new release overnight and am real curious to
>>    how you     liked the new image interface ???

Glad to say it Lee, but WE DO HAVE 1.0 IN STOCK !!!!   We just bought
out another cdrom dealer who had them on hand.

I've checked them and they are the one and only's !!!

Had 50 of them in stock, but now we're down to 20 and going fast.

Since we've sold so many of them, maybe I should send one to you and
have you sign it...grin !!!

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2457
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/27/93 12:48a
Subj: Re: Night Owls 9                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??
>>    If so please tell me the soonest you could send it to me in
>>    VA...I had ordered one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't
>>    arrived so I called and cancled the damn thing...I need it as
>>    fast as possible...

 J.P. !!! Thier IN STOCK for $25. plus shipping. Interested, give
us a call at 1800-243-0517 and we'll be glad to ship you a copy the
same day !!

Hope this helps...

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2458
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/26/93  5:16a
Subj: Re: Trade adult CD for Adult            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 24 Jul 93  01:11:07, I heard Mike Shannon shout to Kevin Plummer:

KP>   I have the Adult CD Volcano, and would like to trade it for another adult
MS> KP>cd, If interested, Please let me know.
MS>
MS> I'll trade you a Physical Therapy or a Storm 1 for it.  Give me a shout if
MS> interested.
MS>
MS> .\\ike

Mike,

  Okay, I will trade you Volcano for Storm 1.  Please send the CD to:

Kevin Plummer
 1355 Clore Drive
 Martinsville,In  46151
  My phone is [phone]  Once I get your disk, then I will ship this one
the same day.

                             .....|<evin

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2459
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/26/93  5:21a
Subj: Re: Night Owls 9                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 24 Jul 93  16:08:11, I heard J.P. Ladner shout to All:

JL> Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??  If so
JL> please tell me the soonest you could send it to me in VA...I had ordered
JL> one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't arrived so I called and
JL> cancled the damn thing...I need it as fast as possible...

     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!



               Call Free Spirit And ask for Roc!
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2460
  To: JOE SZAJEWSKI                            Date: 07/25/93  5:29p
Subj: Drives                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >> Anywhere from $29 to $49, depending on who you ask! ;)  Computer Works
  >> will match all advertised prices.  Be sure to quote your source.
  >>
JS>   How are you on Hard Drives and the CD Rom drives themselves. ??
  >If I come up to your store from Kent County Delaware, how much to
  >install the drives?  I have a 386 sx20 motherboard in a non table
  >top case.  I'm looking for a full load of simms for my empty
  >extension board .... :)

Hi Joe.  I am not much into hardware sales.  I can sell the Mitsumi
internal drives for $185, but I don't carry any other drives.  CD-Rom
software is what I deal in.  I would install anything I sell for you at
no additional charge, but I am located in southeast Alabama, and it sure
would be a long drive for you! <G>  Thanks for asking though.  I'll send
you a catalog in the mail.  Take care.

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2461
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/25/93  5:59p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IG>I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed it.
  >Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?

Sure, what would you like?  I carry most titles.  Give me a call.

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS
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From: RON URBASSIK                           Number: 2462
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93 11:39a
Subj: ADULT CD-ROM DESCRIPT 1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     WILL BEAT ANY ADVERTISED DELIVERED PRICE!

Send to:  GOOSEBUMP GRAPHICS   BOX 5167   MENTOR, OH   44061
or call:  [phone] (voice)  24-hours / 7 days
          [phone] (fax)

Free Shipping, same day, by UPS 2nd day air.
Foreign orders - free air mail shipping world-wide.

[ ] MasterCard   [ ] Visa   [ ] Amex    [ ] Discover
[ ] Money Order  [ ] Check  [ ] COD

MISCELLANEOUS
-------------
CADDIES, $6.  Sony type.  Stainless steel mechanism.

ADULT CD-ROMs
-------------
101 SEX POSITIONS PART 1, $79. VIVID Professionally produced
adult education CD. Identifies 1st 50 positions with their proper
names and demonstrates in high color, motion & sound. 07/93.

101 SEX POSITIONS PART 2, $79. VIVID's final 51 positions. 07/93.

ADULT PALATE, $49, full color, hard-core photos from adult films.
Windows or MAC. 04/93.

ADULT REFERENCE LIBRARY, $59, 537 mb, 2964 files.  Transexuals,
pregnant, big boobs, baby tits, milky mams, lez-o-rama, orgies,
orientals, dildo delight, really weird, etc. Descriptions. Idiot
proof, just type "MENU". Semi wife-proof (disk says "Adult
Reference Library" on it. 03/93.

AFTER DARK TRILOGY, $59, 650 mb. Scenes from 3 After Dark XXX
Videos. Full motion, color & sound. 77 minutes. Windows. 06/93.

ALL BEAUTIES, $59, 667 mb, 3991 files. Swimsuit to XXX-rated
super vga pictures & movies. Built-in viewer programs. Menu
driven. No descriptions. 06/93.

AMATEUR MODELS, $59, 650 mb. Over 500 centerfold style shots of
beautiful women. Photographed by professionals from around the
world. All images in 2 formats: 1024x768x256 color GIFs and True
Color 24-bit 16.7 million color TIFFs. All original, never before
published images! Automatic installation viewer program.
FILES.BBS descriptions. 07/93.

ANIMATION FANTASIES 1, $49, over 100 live action movies. Easy
menu system. No descriptions. 01/93.

ANIMATION FANTASIES 2, $49, over 100 live action movies, some use
SoundBlaster. Easy menu system. No descriptions. 04/93.

ASIAN LADIES, $59, 336 mb, 1810 files, no movies, descriptions.
XXX GIFs of Oriental women. Wife-proof if insert is removed -
disk says only "AL" on it. 03/93.

BANGKOK, $69. From Germany. 444 mb of international erotica & art
clips. 07/93.

BEST of VIVID, $79. Full motion, color & sound segments from
VIVID porno films. 07/93.

BUSTY BABES, $59. 673 mb, 4176 files, no movies, descriptions.
Besides the usual hard-core, it is heavy on big boobs, plus over
800 nude film stars. SoundBlaster front loader. BBS ready. "Wife-
proof" if insert is removed (disk label says only "B.B."). 12/92.

DIGITAL DANCING, THE EROTIC CHALLENGE, $69. Interactive multime-
dia game. If you win, the dancer of your choice takes off every-
thing. 4 sexy dancers. IBM & MAC versions. 07/93.

DIGITAL DREAMS, $59. 632 mb, 2335 files. Menu. All original scans
1024x768x256 or 800x600x256. No BBS ads. All nudes, no men, no
penetration. Descriptions for PCBoard, Wildcat, Spitfire & QBBS.
06/93.

DIRTY TALK, $69. 35 minutes, full color, full motion, video &
sound. 4 gorgeous nude girls perform for you. Requires DOS 5.0 or
higher, 2mb RAM, 1 mb VGA card, mouse. 06/93.

ECSTASY HOT PICS, $59. 572 mb, 2600+ GIFs, 330+ movies, text
stories, 4265 files total. Sound. Menu, mouse support. Descrip-
tions, BBS ready. Not wife-proof because of title on disk. 09/92.

EROTIC ENCOUNTERS, $59. 710 MB! 4309 files. All GIFs. No descrip-
tions. "Wife-proof" if insert is removed (disk label says only
"E.E."). 10/92.

FAO 3 DISK SET, $79. 1892 mb, 2600+ files. GIFs, DLs, GLs, FLIs.

GAY WORLD 1, $69.

GAY WORLD 2, $69. 519 mb. 3414 all male gay GIFs plus 706 all
male JPGs. BBS descriptions. 07/93.

GBL 1, $59, (Gay, Bi, Lesbian). 347 mb, 2494 files, descriptions.
Wife proof if insert is removed. 11/92.

GIFFY GOLD, $59. 214 mb, 1055 files, descriptions. Wife-proof.
Amateur snapshots of San Diego girls range from G thru XXX.
These images are not on any other CD. IBM/MAC. 04/93.

GIRLS OF VIVID VOL 1, $69. Over 500 hand picked high & true color
stills of VIVID beauties. Menu driven, user friendly. Use Mag-
nifying Glass feature for closer look anywhere on screen. 07/93.

GIRLS OF VIVID VOL 2, $69. Over 500 additional high & true color
slides of VIVID beauties. Menu driven, user friendly. 07/93.

GLAMOUR GIRLS 1943, $69, nostalgic nude photos and quicktime
movies from the 1940's. IBM/MAC. 06/93.

HIDDEN OBSESSIONS, $69, Fractel digital compression, full screen,
30 frames/sec. If this one doesn't excite you, you're dead! DOS,
286 16 mhz or better. 90 minutes. 06/93.

HOUSE OF DREAMS, $69. Erotic fantasy movie by creator of Hidden
Obsessions. 76 min. MAC. 07/93.

HOUSE OF SLEEPING BEAUTIES, $69, full length digital movie. Sleep
next to the women of your dreams. PC or MAC. Requires 386SX 20mhz
or better, Windows 3.1 or higher, 4 mb free ram, at least 350 ms
CD-ROM drive, 4 mb free hard drive space, sound card.  05/93.

KAMA SUTRA, $79. The Indian Art of Sexual Positions. Watch for
your favorite as the Prince of Affection explores the various
possibilities of love with some of VIVID's most beautiful women.
Full motion, sound & High Color. 07/93.

LOVELY LADIES II, $59, 676 mb of .BMP files. 111 swimsuit
pictures, 113 lingerie shots, 85 sweaty women working out, 91
close-ups of female body parts. Each image in both 1024x768 &
640x480. No descriptions.

MANPOWER, $69, 600 mb, 1700 files. Hard-core gay GIFs. All sharp,
high-quality 800x600x256 original scans. No BBS ads. FILES.BBS.
Easy, just type 'MENU'. 07/93.

MOVING FANTASIES, $49, 49 FLI, 145 GLs, 194 movies total, desc-
riptions. Excellent menu makes it fun to use. Wife-proof. 01/93.

MY FIRST TIME, $79, full length adult feature film on CD-ROM
starring Nikki Dial. (DOS based) 2 disk set. 80 minutes. 05/93.
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From: RON URBASSIK                           Number: 2464
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93 11:39a
Subj: ADULT CD-ROM DESCRIPT 2/2               Refer: NONE
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MY PRIVATE COLLECTION, $59, 675 mb, 4094 files total.  Descrip-
tions. Movies. 114 Amateur Action GIFs. Wife-proof. 06/92.

MY PRIVATE COLLECTION 2, $59, 649 mb, 3340 files. No movies.
Descriptions. Wife-proof. 02/93.

NIGHTWATCH INTERACTIVE, $69. Adult adventure video. This one is
fun! Check out the action as you make the rounds from the beach
to the bedroom. PC & MAC versions. 05/93.

NIX PIX, HOT PIX 1, $89, 622 mb, 4901 files total. Descriptions.
Anal, beastiality, bondage, famous skin, fist, gay, transexuals,
water sports, etc. Semi wife-proof because of title. 12/91.

NIX PIX HOT PIX 2, $49, 563 mb, 2950 files, descriptions.  Anal,
bondage, famous skin, fist, gay, transexuals, water sports, etc.
Semi wife-proof because of title. 04/92.

NIX PIX HOT PIX 3, $49, 629 mb, 4080 files, descriptions.  Anal,
bondage, famous skin, fist, gay, transexuals, water sports, etc.
Semi wife-proof because of title. 12/92.

NIX PIX HOT PIX 4, $49, 598 mb, 3511 files descriptions. Contains
only the Nix Pix Windy City original GIFs & stories ('WC' file-
names only) from the Hot Pix 1, 2 & 3 CDs. Semi wife-proof.12/92.

NIX PIX HOT PIX 5, $49, 588 mb, 3338 files, descriptions.  Anal,
bondage, famous skin, fist, gay, transexuals, water sports, etc.
Semi wife-proof because of title. 06/93.

PC PIX 1, $59, 646 mb, 5500+ GIFs, 200+ movies, descriptions on
floppy. 640x480x256 or higher.  Co-op project of Nitelog Imaging,
Gabby's Lounge, Garlique Graphics, Twylight Zone, Prizm, Farmer's
Daughter & Sugar Magnolia. Not wife-proof. 05/92.

PC PIX 2, $59, 633 mb, 3001 files. Most are 800x600x256 or high-
er. From Picture Gallery, Hi Tech Place, Library, NightHawk,
Twilight Zone. Descriptions. Wife-proof. 09/92.

PC PIX 3, $59, 671 mb, 3590 files. No movies. From Nightlog
Imaging, Garlique Graphics, Hi Tech Place, NightHawk, Gabby's
Lounge. Wife-proof. Descriptions. 02/93.

PHYSICAL THERAPY, $39, 614mb of GIF, FLI, GL, DL files. 3381
files. No descriptions. Wife-proof. Formerly XXX EXTREME. 09/92.

PIXURE ROM 1, General Appeal & Nudes, $59, 510+mb, 3000+ files.
1/2 G-rated, 1/2 nudes. Descriptions. IBM or MAC. 08/91.

PIXURE ROM 2, Perversia Galore, $59, 640+mb. 40 mb animations.
All adult. Descriptions. IBM or MAC.

PIXURE ROM 3, Hedonistic Tendencies, $59, 645+mb. 620 mb GIFs, 25
mb 32k color Targas. 500+ 1024x768x256 GIFs, 225 800x600x256
GIFs. All adult. Descriptions. IBM or MAC. 09/92.

PIXURE ROM Triple Exposure, $109.  Volumes 1, 2 & 3.

PORK-WARE 1, $59, 655 mb, 2148 files, no movies, descriptions.
Wife-proof if insert is removed. 04/93.

PORK-WARE 2, $59, 649 mb, 3,543 files, 135 movies, descriptions.
Wife-proof if insert is removed. 05/93.

PRIVATE PICTURES, $49, 135 mb, 600 GIFs, 70 movies, no descrip-
tions. Menu makes it easy to use! Includes free poster. 12/91.

RIMFIRE PACIFIC, $59, color & sound film clips from the best
adult features. Video for Windows software included. Requires
Windows 3.1 (or Windows 3.0 with Multi-Media extensions). 03/93.

SECRETS, $69. 80 min Quicktime 1.5 movie. 11 gorgeous women that
will do anything for a buck. MAC.

SEEDY ROM 1 thru 6, $49 ea. Volumes 1 thru 5 are all GIFs, volume
6 also has movies & text files. Duplicate checked 3 ways. Photo
Dex gives pages of mini pics. Click with mouse to blow up to full
screen. SPECIAL - all 6 for $199! Good for export - "wife-proof"
disk label says only "SEEDY ROM 1" with no hint that it contains
adult material. Descriptions. 08/92.

SEEDY ROM 7th HEAVEN, $49. 698 mb, 3701 files, 2900+ GIFs.
Descriptions. Wife-proof. 10/92.

SEEDY ROM MOVIE DISK #1, $59, the best in professional & amateur
adult movies. 6 titles from 7 min to 22 min long. Over 1 hr of
full color videos with stereo sound. Windows required. 05/93.

SEXCAPADES, THE MOVIE, $79. 600 mb, 256 color movie with sound.
Group of friends playing Sexcapades computer game. Fills 3/4
screen, 30 minutes. Requires at least a 386SX computer. 05/93.

SEYMORE BUTTS, INTERACTIVE ADVENTURES OF, $69. You call the shots
as you join Seymore & his camera in exploring his neighborhood &
help him meet & mate with the girl of his dreams. 100+ minutes of
custom shot digital video. 1st person point of view puts you in
the action. Windows & MAC versions. 07/93.

SMUTWARE, $59, 640 mb, 1001 1024x768x256, 2010 800x600x256, 3011
gifs total, 101 movies. No descriptions. Not wife-proof. 02/93.

SO MUCH STAREWARE, $59, 580 mb, 2923 files, descriptions, PCBoard
format. 100 mb R-rated GIFs, 309 mb XXX, 171 mb XXX movies, some
with sound. Easy menu & help file. 02/92.

SOUTHERN BEAUTIES, $59, 675 mb. Nudes, not hard-core. 1000 GIFs
at 1024x768x256 from original 35mm slides. 300 mb of best GIFs in
24-bit True Color. Menu driven, user friendly. 07/93.

STORM 1, $39, 700 mb, 4800 GIFs, 1400 ZIP files, 7395 files
total. Descriptions. Movies, 50 mb of text files. 1st adult cd-
rom. Wife-proof. 08/91.

STORM 2, $49, 625 mb, 4800+ GIFs, 90 movies, 5150 files total.
Install program gives automatic slide show. Besides the usual
stuff, it also contains hermaphrodites, 2.4mb gay, 10.5 mb
transexuals. Wife-proof. 04/92.

STORM 3, $59, 619 mb, 4531 files. Descriptions. 112 mb male pics.
Semi wife-proof (says Adam & Eve Portfolio on disk). 11/92.

STORM 1, 2 and 3 SPECIAL, $125, for all 3!

VISUAL FANTASIES, $59, 466 mb, 2633 files (all GIFs). Bi-sexual,
transexual, fist, bondage, big-boobs, pregnant. Descriptions.
Semi wife-proof (disk has picture of girl's face). 10/91.

VOLCANO, $59, 374 mb, 1475 GIFs, 1515 files total. No movies, 6
32000 color Targa files. No descriptions. Least pornographic CD-
ROM, but not wife-proof. 02/92.

WICKED, $79, Playboy Playmate Teri Weigel in 1st XXX Kodak Photo
CD. Shot during filming of 'Wicked'. 3 versions - DOS, Windows &
MAC. Free Kodak Photo CD Access Software & Photo Sampler CD-ROM
(2 CD-ROMs total). 06/93.

WOMEN OF VENUS, $59, swimsuit edition. Windows or DOS. Background
music. User friendly interface. MS-DOS, MAC or Amiga.
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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 2466
  To: MICHAEL BENGE                            Date: 07/20/93  3:45a
Subj: Terry Woodward                          Refer: NONE
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In a message of <16 Jul 93  18:08:01>, Michael Benge (1:133/716) writes:

 >That still does not change the fact that he is a liar, a fraud, and a
 >thief, now does it?
I think we have all had enough of your personal vendetta, this is a CD-ROM
sale echo not the complaint department. If you can't conduct business here
please leave, I am tired of reading your messages.

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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 2467
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  1:01p
Subj: Digital Dreams Ero Tek                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have Digital Dreams Ero Tek R-rated cd-rom, for sale for $20.00 U.S.
You pay shipping.  Send netmail to 1:310/5 or leave a message here.

Jim Taylor

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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 2468
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/23/93  1:09p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>As to graininess of the images, if your staisfied with the quality of
BJ>the images, then you're a happy owner. As I said in my review: "...what
BJ>follows is one person's opinion."  Others on the echo have agreed with
BJ>my assessment of graininess. I admitted that I didn't know where it came
BJ>from; I speculated about a lot of causes. If you say apparent sharpness
BJ>is likely due to "pixel editing", that's OK by me. In that case I'd say
BJ>DD's producers should have done some (or a lot) of that, too.

Yep, I agree. I don't know what happened, but it looks like a bad conversion
or bad scanner, or bad images at the start. I would put money on the scanner
or the graphic format converter.


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From: JIM TAYLOR                             Number: 2469
  To: DAVE CLARK                               Date: 07/23/93  1:09p
Subj: Review of "Digital Dreams               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>As to graininess of the images, if your staisfied with the quality of
BJ>the images, then you're a happy owner. As I said in my review: "...what
BJ>follows is one person's opinion."  Others on the echo have agreed with
BJ>my assessment of graininess. I admitted that I didn't know where it came
BJ>from; I speculated about a lot of causes. If you say apparent sharpness
BJ>is likely due to "pixel editing", that's OK by me. In that case I'd say
BJ>DD's producers should have done some (or a lot) of that, too.

Yep, I agree. I don't know what happened, but it looks like a bad conversion
or bad scanner, or bad images at the start. I would put money on the scanner
or the graphic format converter.


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 2470
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/24/93 10:10p
Subj: Audio Cables                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone know a good source for audio cables? I need a cable to go from a
Sony CDU-31A to a Soundblaster Pro. I also need a cable to go from a
Mitsumi/Tandy Cd-ROm to it's controller card. Any help is appreciated...


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 2471
  To: BRIAN STARK                              Date: 07/23/93 11:00a
Subj: 7th guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <19 Jul 93  00:32:06>, Brian Stark (1:290/8) writes:
 >If Michael Sells does not take you up on your offer of nix pix 3 + $10,
 >for 7th guest, I will. I have done business with you before, and would be
 >confident enough to send my cd, the same day you send yours. In excellent
 >condition. To make things roll a little quicker, you can call me at
 >515-278-5427, from 9:00am to 3:00pm central time. Or if you prefer you
 >can leave a message in this echo.
Sounds good. I'll send mine as soon as I get an address. You can send yours to
Ryan Denke, 5030 E 19th, Casper, Wy 82609. Thanks!


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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2472
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 07/26/93  6:17p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
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 -=> On 07-24-93  16:28, Ed bantered to Israel about THE 7TH GUEST <=-

 ED> I would be willing to make that trade.  Give me a call at the bellow #
 ED> and we can talk.

I tried to call, but you weren't there. What CD(s) where you thinking of
trading? When I see The 7th Guest advertised it's usualy for around $60.

Israel "Martin" Gomberg
[phone]



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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 2473
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/26/93  8:32p
Subj: Re: The 7Th Guest                       Refer: NONE
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                 *****  Quoting Israel Gomberg to All  *****

 IG> I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed
 IG> it. Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
 IG> -TWITCH the Vorpal Bunny-

Israel, I have Asian Ladies available in trade for 7th Guest if interested.
As it is an adult CD, you'll need to state "over 21", as I don't wish to
"corrupt" (overjoy, more likely!) any young and impressionable minds.
Thanks in advance.

,\\ark



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From: ROBBIE WILKES                          Number: 2474
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 07/26/93  1:00p
Subj: Lost address                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>RW>Am looking for the fellow that I agreed to purchase the Digital Dreams CD
JL>  >from.  I have been awaiting my new set of checks, and can't find your
JL>  >number or address.

JL>If you can't find him, I have one used copy for sale for $20 plus $2.90
JL>shipping.  [phone]
JL>                                                        Jim...

Hey Jim,

Well, might be willing to take you up on it.  Am gonna post my message
one more time, and hopefully I'll hear from him.  Wouldn't want to leave
a deal just hanging like that.

Thanks for the offer, and will keep it in mind if don't find him.

Later,

Robbie Wilkes

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From: ROBBIE WILKES                          Number: 2475
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/27/93 11:01a
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IG>I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed it.
IG>Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
IG>                   -TWITCH the Vorpal Bunny-

Hey Israel,

Will trade the Volcanoe adult CD for it.  Let me know if you're
interested.

Take care,

Robbie Wilkes
[phone] after 6:00pm EST

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2476
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/26/93  7:32p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
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In a message to Jackie Rogers <07-26-93 07:57> Ismail Arslangiray wrote:

IA> How many Mitsumi have you sold? And what is your technical
IA> back-ground?

Based on the problems it appears you have been causing my firm, I respectfully
request that you not correspond with me.  Thank you for understanding.

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From: PAUL NALEY                             Number: 2477
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93 10:22p
Subj: SR Media Dealings??                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

About a month ago a firm called "SR Media" offered the "Digital Dreams -
The McHenry Collection" ForSale. I sent in the requried payment, but as
of today I still have not received the CD ROM disk from them. I even
tried Directory Assistance and found that this firm is not listed.

The SR Media adverstisement was placed in this echo.

Has anyone had any dealings with this firm and actually received what
they ordered? Also if anyone has a current phone # for SR Media I would
really appreciate the information.

Since this firm is located in Calgary, Alberta Canada does anyone know
how to start formal procedures for Mail Fraud in Canada and who to
contact?

Thank you in advance....

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2478
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  8:07a
Subj: Software/Books for Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the following software/books for sale:

Ultima VII - The Black Gate. 3.5" disks.                        $28
Ultima VII clue book - Key to the Black Gate                    $ 8
    (have been offered $20 for the above 2 items, which seems
    too cheap... Others?)
Ultima Underworld clue book - Mysteries of the Abyss            $ 7
Ultima VI - The False Prophet. 5.25" disks.                     $23
Energizer Bunny for Windows. Screen saver, etc. 3.5" disks      $ 7
Grammatik 5 for Windows. Both 3.5"/5.25" disks.                 $28

Prices include shipping. All software is in original pkg with all docs, etc.
If you're local to Kansas City, will deduct shipping ($2-3 per item) if you
want to pick up. Leave msg here, or call 913-888-5201 ext.257 (M-F 8a-4p
Central time, or leave voice mail).

Will possibly consider trade for Lemmings game, or something nifty on
CD ROM!

- Heather
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2479
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/26/93 11:28p
Subj: Night Owls 9                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??  If so
  >please tell me the soonest you could send it to me in VA...I had ordered
  >one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't arrived so I called and
  >cancled the damn thing...I need it as fast as possible...

Computer Works will sell Night Owls 9 for $29.  Give me a call at
[phone] to place your order.  I ship all orders out 2 Day
Priority Mail.  Be sure to mention this message to get this price.

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2480
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 07/26/93 11:30p
Subj: Terri Weigel - Wicked                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >Do you have the cd of teri Weigel pics?
  >I've seen it advertised in the back of pc computing.

How much did they want for it.  Computer Works is selling it for $59.

                                                Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
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From: ELLEN COTTON                           Number: 2481
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/26/93  4:32p
Subj: Re: Software sale/trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'll get the money in the mail tomorrow for Adobe Type Manager for Windows.
Thanks for holding it for me.

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 2482
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/27/93 12:18a
Subj: Re: SHOWOFF! Interface-The 90's         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to Vince Sorensen <=-

 VS>> I think the interface for Busty Babes Release 3.0 is
 VS>> the best, period, and I've _made_ excellent interfaces for other
 VS>> Of course, I'm biased because I distribute it (and Erotek's Digital
 VS>> Dreams), but I use much less bandwidth for my propaganda <g>!

 LN> Can't wait until the windows version of this is ready ! You'll find it
 LN> on our future discs as well-

Any chance of an OS/2 version ??  I can run the DOS or Windows version under
OS/2, but it would be nice to have a native OS/2 version.

... Sex on TV can't hurt you, unless you fall off!
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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2483
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 07/27/93  2:28a
Subj: NEW CD RELEASE - Southern               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BR>             Announces The NEW RELEASE of   "Southern Beauties"

BR>675 Megs-OVER 65 Top Models-1000 GIFs-1024x768x256 From Original 35mm Slides
BR>Includes 300 Megs of the Best GIFs in 24 bit True Color. Installs Quickly &

How did you get 24 bit True color in Gif format? Isn't Gif, by standard,
limited to 256 colors?

 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * For a photographer, life is just a bed of poses.


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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2484
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 07/27/93  8:32a
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HK->Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
DS>I would be happy to purchase it from you,  please tell me your address and
DS>where to send the $28 and do I have to pay for postage and I'll enclose the

    Thanks. I've already had a couple other people contact me on this, so
    believe it's sold. If neither of those come through with a purchase,
    I'll get back with you.

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2485
  To: JOSEPH THOMAS                            Date: 07/27/93  8:36a
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 HK> Thanks for the message on the encyclopedia. I've had one other person
 HK> contact me on it, and I left them a message back. If they decide not to
 HK> take the CD, I'll drop you a note again to see if you want it.
JT>         I sure would like that. I am holding the 28.00 for this purpose

    Still no word from the other guy. I'll leave him another message to
    let him know that if he doesn't contact me by Saturday, it's sold to
    someone else (you). I'll leave you a message this weekend letting you
    know one way or another.

- Heather
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2486
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  1:21a
Subj: THE MONSTER IS BACK!  1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 So many of you sent private mail and phone messages requesting that I
 not do away with the "monster", that I really had no choice in the
 matter!  Here is our updated list, with several new titles, and as
 always - the lowest possible pricing.  Of course our Bottom-Line
 price guarantee is still in effect:  If you find a lower advertised
 price in this echo on any item we stock, we'll beat it by 5%.  (No
 closeouts please)  Let Starvector be your "BOTTOM LINE PRICING LEADER".

 You folks wanted it, so here it is . . . . .

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 July 1993               DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 7/27
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Microsoft Musical Instruments.58.00
 7th Guest.....................52.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    MIDI Music Shop...............29.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 1...17.00    Monarch Notes.................64.00
 American Business Phonebk 2...19.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 Amiga AB20....................15.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...38.50
 Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.00    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....30.00
 Audubon's Birds...............25.00    National Business Directory...39.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............25.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    National Parks................29.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 8.0.................27.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....33.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Business Master...............20.00    North American Fax Book.......39.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 California Collection.........17.00    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...19.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    Our Solar System..............13.00
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 CD Winbox (New!)..............27.00    PC-SIG #12....................27.00
 CD Grab Bag Disc..............19.00    PC Gameroom...................27.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pentaminoes...................32.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phethean's Shareware #1.......15.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phoenix 3.0...................13.00
 Clipart Galore................28.00    Pier 1........................27.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............35.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........27.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....28.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....22.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Composer Quest................35.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........125.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency... 98.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....69.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........34.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....69.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........33.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........27.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Crossword Cracker.............24.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Reader's Library..............31.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....36.00
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...42.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....27.50
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Eagle Eye Shareware (New!)....25.00    Shareware Online..............28.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Overload............13.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2487
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  1:21a
Subj: THE MONSTER IS BACK!  2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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                                   2 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00    Shareware Studio 1............20.00
 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Studio 2 (New!).....25.00
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........15.00    Sights & Sounds...............25.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......29.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Font Master 2.................28.00    So Much Shareware 2...........27.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Software Vault 1..............25.00
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....27.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..29.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Soundware Collection (New!)...27.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    SoundWAV......................28.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space Quest IV................25.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Grolier's Ill. Ency. 2.0......38.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........48.00    Street Atlas USA..............86.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......48.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...25.00    Super CD 2....................27.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....16.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Super Games For Windows.......16.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........28.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Technotools...................13.00
 House of Games................24.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..27.50
 Illustrated Holy Bible........47.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.50
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Total Baseball................29.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    Trump Castle..................33.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 King's Quest V................25.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........27.50    Up All Night Shareware (New!).19.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    VGA Spectrum 1................15.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    VGA Spectrum 2................22.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    Visions of Saturn.............25.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    Vital Signs...................45.00
 Lion's Share..................24.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Window Master.................20.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........37.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander II Deluxe......57.50
 Magnum One Shareware..........27.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........27.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Manhole.......................36.50    World Atlas MPC...............27.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............28.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak............45.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2488
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  1:22a
Subj: ADULT CD-ROM DISCOUNTS                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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 July 1993                ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 7/26
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    PC-PIX 3......................30.00
 After Dark Trilogy (New!).....45.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 All Beauties (New!)...........36.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Amateur Models (New!).........35.00    Porkware 2 (New!).............37.00
 Animation Fantasies 1 or 2....29.00    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Busty Babes...................33.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Busty Babes 3.0 (New!)........35.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........29.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........49.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Girls of Vivid (New!).........45.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................29.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......35.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................29.00    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................29.00    Storm 2.......................28.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............29.00    Storm 3.......................29.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......28.00    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....45.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).49.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 PC-PIX 1......................30.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00
 PC-PIX 2......................30.00    X-Treme (New!)................36.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2489
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/27/93  1:22a
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MW>Well, thanks for reply, but I am waiting to hear from someone who said he
can
MW>sell it for 25.00:)....I am sure you will understand...

Manny,

As we advertise, we'll beat any legit ad in here by 5%.  Gimme a call!  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2490
  To: JIM HILGEFORD                            Date: 07/27/93  1:22a
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JH>        I am interested in Educational CD-Rom's.
JH>        Example Barney Bear, Arthur Goes to School, Grandma & Me.
JH>        Do you have anything along these lines. Appreciate
JH>        any help I can get.

No longer carry the Barney Bear CD's because of the poor quality.
Have Arthur's Teacher Trouble at $29.  Just Grandma & Me is $42.

Call if I can be of any further help to you.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: BOB HAY                                Number: 2491
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 07/27/93 11:36a
Subj: Electricity & Magnetism Disk            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I read a review of it in a maglet called "The CD-ROM Reporter", July?Aug 1993.

According to the review it was written by Bob Gomersall and has a "very Eurpean
flair" (whatever that is).  The review says it is aimed at junior and senior
high school students in mind.

Apparently, you can review a series of science lessons or answer worksheets,
and there is narrative, text, animation and photos.

I got no information out of the article as to specifically what topics were
covered by the lessons.

Hope this helps.  So, is anyone out there selling the durn thing?


Bob.



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From: HAROLD WEISS                           Number: 2492
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  2:05p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I would like recommendations and/or Prices for CD's (Shareware and GIF) that
are BBS ready to interface with RemoteAccess in a Files.BBS format.  Thank
you.

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From: HAROLD WEISS                           Number: 2493
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  2:15p
Subj: Mailing List                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To any Vendors: WE HAVE MONEY ! :)

Please send us a current catalog so we can buy from you.

Harold Weiss
1910 Marlen
Pasadena, Tx 77502

Looking for BBS ready cd's especially, With descriptions in FILES.BBS format.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2494
  To: JIM HILGEFORD                            Date: 07/27/93  4:52p
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You sent this to the wrong guy. I think you meant for Doug to get this
request.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2495
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/27/93  4:54p
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
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I think I'll wait until you can tell me a bit more about them. Thanks.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2496
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/27/93  5:13p
Subj: 2 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

R-r-r-r-r-oger! I'm the patient sort.
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: NEIL ALLEN                             Number: 2497
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/26/93 12:45p
Subj: Cd'S Shipping To Canada?                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 VS> Why don't you just order from us, here in Canada? Did you know that
 VS> 30% of the adult discs in the market are actually pressed in Quebec?
 VS> Busty Babes & Southern Beauties are two I've got sitting in front of
 VS> me right now with MADE IN CANADA stickers on them. I can often get them
 VS> drop-shipped directly from the factory, without them crossing a single
 VS> international border. Plus, you can get anything I do get from the
 VS> states at prices similar to what you're already paying in the states
 VS> *WITHOUT* the delay, without the customs risk, and without the
 VS> postal/courier surcharges. For example, Hot Pix 3 is $40 Canadian, GST
 VS> Included, rather than $29.95 US (after 1.30 exchange & 7% GST becomes
 VS> $41 Canadian...sample price picked out of a "SUMMER SPECTACULAR
 VS> BLOWOUT" message I read in this echo today).

 VS> Give us a call - you won't regret it!

 VS> Vince
 VS> 306-789-4654 Voice
 VS> 306-789-8690 Fax
 VS> 306-789-8682 BBS

        Would you have an address you could post so I can write and get a
list of the CD's you have availible along with a price list as well?


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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 2498
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  9:50a
Subj: Netware PD/Shareware CD-ROM             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its Netware CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
801 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:[phone], EMail:[e-mail]
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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2499
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 07/26/93  7:26a
Subj: Dork.Dork.Dork                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MK> BT> why do you pick apart the spelling in my messages for???????

MK>    It annoys me to read illiterate messages posted in any echo.  Unless
MK>    you are from Arkansas, there is simply no excuse.  I get tired of
MK>    hearing "its just computers, i ain't needs to spel it rite!"  Most
MK>    individuals that gravitate towards computers as a hobby are generally
MK>    better educated and certainly more willing to learn than those who do
MK>    not.  However, your posts are not helping sustain my theorem.

A person may be educated and also a stuck-up jerk.  Education
comes to open minds.

Are you suggesting that if a person is unable to meet your
education threshold criteria, that they should not participate
in the same echos as you?

I'll bet the universe revolves around you, eh?

MK>    I believe I already do.  "dude?"  Are you from the Left Coast by any
MK>    chance?  The name "Bubba" must be a real topic of conversation out
MK>    there at cocktail parties.

He's from Florida, as anyone who could read his originline might
determine.

MK> * Origin: The Outland Cary,N.C. [phone] 1:151/147 (1:151/147.0)

While you were busy making regional stereotypes your sysop got
drunk at his still and put his node number in the origin twice.

 * SLMR 2.1 *

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2500
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 07/26/93  7:26a
Subj: Re: SHERLOCK HOLMES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EC> EB> It needs a 350 ms or better to look and sound smooth.

EC>        I have a demo of it that keeps crashing. My CDROM drive is
EC> 800ms and I thought that was probably the cause.

I haven't seen the demo, but the actual game worked fine in my
CDR-2500 (Hitachi, 800ms.  Depending on detail, full-color video
may have paused every 20-30 seconds for about a second to gather
more data, but it didn't detract from the game, and the game
didn't crash.

 * SLMR 2.1 * Give me liberty or give me death.

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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 2501
  To: DON NELSON                               Date: 07/26/93  2:21a
Subj: Toshiba CDROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DN>Can you tell me what the maximum capacity CD-ROM this drive can handle.  I'm
DN>having a problem with mine (the one I purchased from you). I'm getting the
DN>following error:
DN>"File read/write error-drive may be open or disk unformatted"

Don, I have a Toshiba 3401 and according to the manual, it can read
690/788 MB on a CD.  I have a CD that is 614MB in size and I get the
same error message...  The problem might be the drivers or something.

Anyone want to guess?


 * OLX 2.1 TD * All wiyht.  Rho sritched mg kegtops awound?


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2502
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/27/93  8:19p
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BJ> P-L-E-A-S-E don't start another one of those silly
 BJ> debates over who has

I won't.  Just picking at Mike to have some fun with him for being awrny.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2503
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/27/93  8:20p
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> Hogwash?  Boy, there's a term I haven't heard in a while.  Like I said
 MS> Doug, you're certainly welcome to "call my bluff"
 MS> any time you see fit.
 MS> If it IS "hogwash", then you should have no trouble
 MS> proving it.  Go ahead
 MS> and advertise them for less than $10, and let's see what happens!  8)

Hehe.  No thanks Mike.  They are one of my slowest sellers.  I don't need a
horse in this race <g>.  Some of their discs are ok, but some are not that
great, such as the considerable amount of dupes on Clip Art goliath, but for
the money, dollar for dollar, it is not a waste of money at all.
Just having some fun with ya.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2504
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/27/93  8:50p
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> We have two brand new ones:  Southern Beauties and
 MS> Amateur Models, both of
 MS> which **I believe** are all original scans.  $35 ea. or both for $69.

That's what the author claims I believe on the CD.  Blaine was the producer I
believe....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2505
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/27/93  8:52p
Subj: Night Owls 9                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JL> Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??  If so
 JL> please tell me the soonest you could send it to me
 JL> in VA...I had ordered
 JL> one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't arrived so I called and
 JL> cancled the damn thing...I need it as fast as possible...

Who did you order it from?  We can match any ad posted here in the echo.  We
can also deliver.  Give us a call at 800-547-7817 to order the NOPV9.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2506
  To: DAVID PATTERSON                          Date: 07/27/93  8:54p
Subj: CDROM_SALE Antics                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DP> WHAT! He send your disk BACK! So...you are out some postage?
 DP> Why has the whole world had to read or skip through this junk
 DP> because of a dollar or 2 ?
 DP> PLEASE give everyone a break.
 DP> Thanks

That is a real risk when you do COD also.  I had a lady in Alabama stiff me for
one that came back today and now I'm out over $8 and this guy is crying about
$2?  It is just a chance you take.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2507
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/27/93  8:56p
Subj: HERE WE ARE                             Refer: NONE
Read: 07/29/93  6:49a                       Private: No

 TH> OK, we're all proud... Please end this thread.

 TH> tim
 TH> moderator

Was just curious if you are going to implement the new rules that Bob has
posted in the CDROM echo....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2508
  To: JIM HILGEFORD                            Date: 07/27/93  8:57p
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!    1/2           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JH>         I am interested in Purchasing CD-Rom for Education.
 JH>         Do you have anything Like Barney Bear, Arthur Goes to School
 JH>         Or Grandma and Me?

We stock the Barney Bears and Just Grandma and me....

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2509
  To: JOHN ROBINSON                            Date: 07/27/93  9:05p
Subj: Re: Adult Titles                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JR> Not a bad idea.. I would not consider buying from a
 JR> vendor who shows their
 JR> dislike for some one in their advertisments.. Be it
 JR> the President or anyone
 JR> else for that Matter..

You democrats are all alike <G D&R>.

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From: RON RICHMOND                           Number: 2510
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/27/93  1:00a
Subj: Libel                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>MB>you to send yours in return.  Instead you shipped mine back.  In as much,
MS>MB>caused me to lose a total of $2.90.  Since you did so after the deal
MS>Geez, I'LL send you the three bucks if you'll just stuff a sock in it!
         ^^^^
MS>.\\ike

  Mike- I won't write any of those whiney little annoying messages.If you
  send me three bucks also.      Thanks,       Ron.
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From: HERMAN WIGGINS                         Number: 2511
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93 10:39p
Subj: JemDisk                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the latest release of
JemDisk..Cd if so please post here...Been looking all over for a deal
for a sysop, need something with about 7000 files on it, anything less
forget it..also must be at reasonalble priced...perfer lots of gif
files, also I have a copy of Wildcat Gold CD-Rom will be willing to
trade for a good adult cd-rom disk..or even make me an offer..see ya
around the net..Please reply if you are seriously interested in this
disk...or if you can guide me in the right direction for a good
shareware BBS ready cd-rom disk...

 * WCE 1.10/2094 * -> Have fun.  Keep it under 80MPH and drink milk.

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From: CRAIG CURRY                            Number: 2512
  To: LARISSA KOHLER                           Date: 07/27/93 10:44p
Subj: Walnut Creek Games CDROM                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Larissa,

They've been putting off my order too. I am looking forward to the CD
"if" it ever ships. Reminds me of some hardware venders I know... <g>.

I guesse I will keep my order standing, but I'm wondering if I shouldn't
get another CD in the mean time.

Take care,

         Craig Curry
         Parkersburg, WV

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From: CAM LIRONDELLE                         Number: 2513
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/27/93  6:07a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

S9>> michael, my drive arrived yesterday.  took about 15 mins to install
S9>> and it works just fine.  thanks again. runs like a champ under os/2.

 MK> I still have a couple left if you know anyone.

 MK> 205-837-5053
I am interested!  How much?







Cam Lirondelle

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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From: CAM LIRONDELLE                         Number: 2514
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  6:07a
Subj: cd rom drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

wanted good multispin cdrom that will work with a future domain scsi
controller

Cam Lirondelle

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 2515
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  3:45a
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                 ****  Four-Star Enterprises  ****
                       Custom CDROM Service

  Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
  produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
  overnight!

   o Complete confidentiality assured.  Your data will NOT be pilfered.
   o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media.
   o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
   o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
   o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
   o Great for:  BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
                 Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
   o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
   o Free UPS Blue label shipping to the Continental U.S.
   o COMING SOON!  Compact Disk AUDIO Production!  COMING SOON!

Pricing for Custom CD production:

o 527 Meg:  o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 139MB
            o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
            o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o 650 Meg:  o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 144MB
            o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
            o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.

   Data formats Supported:               Software Supported:
 ---------------------------           ----------------------- o 60MB
DC600/6XXX Streaming Tape.  o Sytos Plus o Mountain Filesafe
                                   o Everex Tape

o QIC 40/80  (Colorado Jumbo 250)  o PCTools o Colorado Software

o Floppy (At additional cost)      o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools

o Hard Disk

** 4mm DAT, and 125/250MB 5.25" Streaming tape will be available SOON **

Terms:

  Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
  checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are
  not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.

*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
 For the months of July and August, all orders qualify
 for a 10% discount from our CURRENT pricing.  Offer
 ends August 31, 1993.
*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***

Notice:

Four Star Enterprises will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite", or
pirated software collections on CDROM.  Such activity is morally WRONG and
illegal.  If this is your intention, please do not waste my time or yours.

For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.

Loyd Craft
Four Star Enterprises
517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM - 6:00PM Monday - Saturday) 517-865-6066 (Customer
Support BBS) 1:239/900.0 (Fidonet)

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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 2516
  To: MODERATOR                                Date: 07/26/93  4:33p
Subj: BUBBA!!!!                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Do we have to listen about this CRAP! for the next year or so?
I for one am getting sick of it.
These messages are ALL of topic and do not belong in this echo.
Please put an end to it!
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From: HORHAY                                 Number: 2517
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93 12:53p
Subj: gif cd's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for some Cd's with adult gif images new or used.Please write
back if you have any info.

                          thanx


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From: MIKE SHEPARD                           Number: 2518
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/27/93 10:56p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JR> Mitsumi has a problem reading many of the discs out
 JR> there on the market. HOWEVER, industry sources have
 JR> indicated that Mitsumi has found a problem with their
 JR> controller card, and have corrected it.


Hello Jackie,
 Have you a number for them so if they do have a fix we with these things can
try to get them fixed so we can keep those disc's you've just sold us??
  Mike


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From: JOHN CARROLL                           Number: 2519
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/26/93  6:42p
Subj: This Weeks CDROM Specials               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a Message From: Doug Carpenter  To: All  Dated: 07-19-93 at: 23:22
DC--> *** PCJ Computing WEEKLY SPECIALS *** MUST BE ORDERED BY
DC--> JULY 27 ***
DC--> *** Orders Only 800-547-7817 / Inquiries (24 Hours)
DC--> 615-339-0235 ***
DC-->
DC--> Wing Commander/Ultima 6 (Discontinued-get it while you
DC--> can)........23.95
DC--> American Business Phone Book..17.95 Software Vault #2 (ALL
DC--> '93!)...19.95
DC--> X11R5-GNU.....................19.95 ** Buy 4 Vivid Titles
DC--> at 44.95 each
DC--> Seedy ROM Movie Disc..........34.95 and receive your
DC--> choice of 1 Free:
DC--> DR. DOS v6.0 (floppy).........24.95 Moving Fantasies,
DC--> Visual Fantasies,
DC--> Hobbes OS/2...................14.95 Adult Reference
DC--> Library, Physical
DC--> Source Code...................19.95 Therapy, or Hot Pix
DC--> v4.0.

Finally, after reading for 10 minutes......something that has to do with the
selling of CD-ROMs!  THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!     ...John

and to stay on topic....can you suggest a good CD of Windows Shareware, set up
for RA bbs software? Something current?   Thanks!

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From: GLENN JONES                            Number: 2520
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93 10:25p
Subj: CD Rom Help                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Could somone help me?  What do I look for in a CD-ROM?  What I'm looking for
is a internal CD-ROM.  Speed, KBytes/Second, Speed????

I'm SO CONFUSED!!!

Thanks,
Glenn

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 2521
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 07/27/93  3:49a
Subj: Cd-rom drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Panasonic 501B $300
-> Chinon 535-CDS $430

Ismail, what are the Access and kb/transfer times on these
two drives?, I may be interested, especially in the Chinon.

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 2522
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/27/93  7:49a
Subj: Scsi cdrom drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> 1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure
-> with power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O,
-> and 90-
-> 240 VAC universal input.  $220.00 with caddy.
->
-> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

Michael....  Would you care to work up a trade for one of the following
drives???  I have several things to trade...  1x9 70ns SIMMS (4megs
total); I have a VERY nice 250 watt UPS that has a NEW battery, Also
have a 130MB Seagate hdd that works flawlessly, with NO errors.
Could also come up with a little cash....

        Todd

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From: KAREL VITAMVAS                         Number: 2523
  To: DONALD MACKAY                            Date: 07/26/93 11:46p
Subj: CD Caddies                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

q

DM> Can anyone please give me some prices on CD caddies. Most of the
DM> pricesup here north of the 49th are really quite outrageous.

DM> thanks

CMSI in Toronto, Canada sells CD Caddies for $6.00 CAD.  Phone [phone].
They take 24 Hour Quotesor Orders.
I hope that's somewhat helpful.
                                                          Karel
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From: DON DEMAERE                            Number: 2524
  To: ALL CD VENDORS                           Date: 07/27/93  7:25a
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I, like many others, like to do business via fax. I have called several of the
fax numbers listed by vendors in this echo and I have noticed the following:
1) Many vendors use faxmodems. It allows them to send/receive faxes and operate
a BBS at the same time.

2) Some vendors use the faxmodems mentioned above, but configure them to
send/receive faxes at certain hours and operate the BBS the rest of the time.

3) I use a Panasonic KXF-110 G3 fax machine

There is only one problem with this.

FAXMODEMS DON'T WORK. AT LEAST NOT WHEN RECEIVING A FAX.
Actually, most work very well sending out a fax. But, that doesn't help me.

On several occasions I have tried sending a fax to a vendor, only to get a
series of unrecognizable handshaking tones. I then usually call voice, and am
told "Try again, once I reconfigure the faxmodem" or "Try again, but press your
SEND button before my faxmodem answers", or "I only receive faxes from 8am to
6pm", or "Oh, I don't accept faxes, I use the faxmodem to only send catalogs
out", or "It's for my suppliers' use only".

Come on, vendors. This is the 90's. I know margins are tight, but many fax
machines are cheaper than the CD drives you sell, and a dedicated line is a tax
writeoff.

In the short-term, vendors should state if they use faxmodems and/or they run a
BBS on the same line and/or do not receive faxes and/or only accept faxes
during certain hours. It will make my life easier.

Don

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2525
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 07/27/93  4:13p
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DD> FAXMODEMS DON'T WORK. AT LEAST NOT WHEN RECEIVING A FAX.

ZyXEL's Do!

CJK

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2526
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/27/93 11:05p
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TW>MS>We have two brand new ones:  Southern Beauties and Amateur Models, both
of
TW>MS>which **I believe** are all original scans.  $35 ea. or both for $69.

TW>You still have my address, right? Send them both to me, please. BTW, you
TW>DID get the disk I returned, right? Terry

Got ya down Terry.  BTW, it's both for $65, not $69.  My typo.

Yes, I did receive the other CD, and I'll apply the credit to this order.
Thanks again for the order!

BTW, When can I come down to gatorland and hold a boom mike or -anything-
on your next movie project?  8)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2527
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/27/93 11:05p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TW>MS>1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,
TW>Send me this one, too, ok?

Gotcha.

TW>MS>4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities,
debuggers
TW>And this one...

Gotcha again.

TW>MS>5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
TW>And this one...

And again.

They'll be strapped to the belly of a DC-3 tomorrow!

.\\ike

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 * SLMR 2.1a * I used to have a life. Now I have Windows.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2528
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 07/27/93 11:05p
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DR>I'm proud of her.  As more of the silent majority become vocal about their
DR>political feelings, Clinton's going to feel like a little man in a big
house,
DR>real soon now.  At this rate, I'll be able to publish a CD-ROM full of
DR>Clinton's mistakes by the end of summer.  He's such a joke, I'll have to
mark
DR>it as a comedy, though.  ;-)

Come on Dave, quit riding the fence.  Take a position!!   8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2529
  To: MIKE FURST                               Date: 07/27/93 11:05p
Subj: Buy 3 Get A Powerpak Fre                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MF>MS>               BUY THIS:                             GET THIS FREE:
MF>  >  *-----------------------------------*
*--------------------------*
MF>  >  |   ADULT 3-PAK SPECIAL:            |       |
|
MF>  >  |                                   |       |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0
|
MF>  >  | 1.  ALL BEAUTIES (gif, fli, gl)   |       |     REVISED EDITION
|
MF>  >  | 2.  HOT PIX 5                     |       |
|
MF>  >  | 3.  AMATEUR MODELS (gif, tiff)    |       |     650+MB OF GREAT
|
MF>  >  |                         *-----*   |       |        SHAREWARE!
|
MF>  >  *-------------------------| $89 |---*
*--------------------------*
MF>  >                            *-----*

MF>  I was just browsing the CD-ROM echo and noticed your getting it from
MF>all sides!!! So what do I say? Damn the Torpedoes! Use the
MF>Photon's..they do more damage!!

He He.  Let's just say I'm in my element when there is controversy in the
"air".  8)  Next time I will try the Photons, but NOT at close range.  8)

MF> Anyway, I was wondering if you plan to offer something like above with
MF>one of the CD's being Digital Dreams instead ? I'd also appreciate a
MF>catalog if you have any and I could get copies out in the Las Vegas area
MF>(friends....you know the type.....<g>).

For you Mike, I'll substitute Digital Dreams for any of the three, at
the same price.  Just say the word and they're yours!  Catalog's on
the way.

Later,

.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2530
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93 11:05p
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                       +-------------------------+
  CHECK                |   SPECIAL BONUS OFFER   |     GET A FULL 650MB
                       +-------------------------+     OF RECENT SHAREWARE
     THIS              |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0    |     FOR
                       |     REVISED EDITION     |          ONLY
        OUT !!         |    SHAREWARE CD ONLY    |
                       |  $4.00  W/ PURCHASE OF  |         4   BUCKS!
           ----------> |    ANY PACKAGE DEAL!    |         ----------
                       +-------------------------+

-------------[ CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS ]------------------------------------

1. Night Owl 7.0     2. Storm 1     3. Southern Beauties     4. Hot Pix 3
   Night Owl 8.0        Storm 2        All Beauties             Hot Pix 4
   Night Owl 9.0        Storm 3        Amateur Models           Hot Pix 5
   -------------        -------        --------------           ---------
   $69                  $69            $95                      $85


       5. Night Owl 8.0     6. Night Owl 9     7. All Beauties
          Night Owl 9.0        Pier 2             Southern Beauties
          -------------        ------             -----------------
          $55                  $59                $65


8. Up All Night            9. Empire Clipart             10. Pier 2
   Super CD 2                 Clipart Heaven                 SW Vault 2
   So Much Shareware 3        Encyclopedia of Clipart        SW Studio 2
   -------------------        -----------------------        -----------
   $63                        $59                            $65


11. CD Winbox      12. House of Games     13. Busty Babes     14. Storm 2
    Windows 93         Game Arena             Ecstasy             Storm 3
    ----------         ----------             -------             -------
    $44                $35                    $55                 $49


15. Fantazia Fonts         16. Porkware 1       17. Compton's Interactive
    Fontmaster 2               Porkware 2           U.S. Atlas MPC
    Too Many Typefonts         All Beauties         Learning Adventure
    ------------------         ------------         ------------------
    $49                        $89                  $129


PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .

               WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2531
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93 11:05p
Subj: BUY 3 GET POWERPAK FREE!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          -------------* 3 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!! *--------------

               BUY THIS:                             GET THIS FREE:
  *-----------------------------------*       *--------------------------*
  |   ADULT 3-PAK SPECIAL:            |       |                          |
  |                                   |       |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0     |
  | 1.  ALL BEAUTIES (gif, fli, gl)   |       |     REVISED EDITION      |
  | 2.  HOT PIX 5                     |       |                          |
  | 3.  AMATEUR MODELS (gif, tiff)    |       |     650+MB OF GREAT      |
  |                         *-----*   |       |        SHAREWARE!        |
  *-------------------------| $89 |---*       *--------------------------*
                            *-----*

 Get the three newest and hottest adult CD's on the market for the super
 low price of only $89, and receive a PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware CD
 absolutely free!  This offer is for a limited time only, so hurry!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2532
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 07/27/93  5:29p
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > IG> 1.Loom
 > IG> 2.The Secret of Monkey Island
 >
 > Isreal-
 >
 > Sorry, no adults disks I want to trade, but I'll offer $32.90 for
 > the above.


Sorry, but I can't help you there. I just wanted to trade them.



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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2533
  To: DICK HUDDLESTON                          Date: 07/27/93  7:23a
Subj: Your order                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Dick, I need your phone number........
===
 * RM 1.0 00391 * Please see our complete list in the FOR SALE conferences.


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From: JACK HUDDLE                            Number: 2534
  To: JAMES PRICE                              Date: 07/28/93 11:21a
Subj: CD-ROM CACHING????                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

===================================================================
   ------------------------------------------------------------------

    JP>Is there a major <if any> improvement in caching a CD-rom with
435 ms JP>access time and 150kb transfer rate???

Yes there is!
JP>Is there a program that will Cache my CD-rom and my hard drive also??

Yes there is and it is called "The Norton Speedcache+ for dos and
windows. Just as an example I had been using Coreldrw 3.o and upgraded
to the 4.0 Version and liking Fonts I made the mistake of installing all
750 of Version 4.0 fonts. Needless to say Coreldrw was written to be
run inside of windows. Prior to installing the Norton speedcache+ on my
486/33 the elapsed time it took to open windows from the time I typed
win and hit the enter key till I got the windows program manager with
all of my various icons displayed on the crt was 3:35 what seemed like a
lifetime. well I installed nCache and the reduced the 3:35 to 1:05 SEC,
quite a remakable improvement approx a 66% increase in accesing speed.
then on this echo I read about "The Norton Speedcache+" and proceeded to
buy same. It self installs and litterly cashes everyting on your system,
CDROM, Hard Drive, Dos, Windows. when it was Installed instead of"
"NCACHE" the same accesstime dropped to :53 seconds so I would have to
say it indeed does cut the accesstime. I do not have a benchmark program
to time the info retrevial of info from the CDROM so I can only assume
that it has speeded it up also, By the way I am running two Stacked(2.0)
drives and it (Norton Speedcache+) says they are not cached but that is
where windows 3.1 is installed along with all other applications except
\Dos \Stacker who reside on the unstacked portion of the C:(Bootable
Disk drive) but to speed windows up that much I know It does..Hope this
rambling helps .......Jack

 * SLMR 2.0 #1626 * I could have had a V8, But got a GOLDWING instead!!


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2535
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  7:20a
Subj: Liquadation Discs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD-PowerBox $12 (General Shareware)
CD-WinBox $12 (Windows Shareware)

If you are interested, you can order from:

GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd. Tacoma, WA 98409
TEL [phone] or 1-800-373-0628
FAX [phone] or 1-800-277-5179

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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 2536
  To: KEVIN OYAMA                              Date: 07/25/93 12:55a
Subj: CDWORLD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Kevin,
 Allways try to do my best, Have a good one and thanks for the kind
words.

 David McSpadden CD-WORLD


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2537
  To: BOB HAY                                  Date: 07/24/93  7:24a
Subj: E & M Disk                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BH>I am looking for someone who has the Electricity and
BH>Magnetism CD-ROM.  Pricing and ordering information

I can't help you, but as an astrophysics major I'm interested in what this
might be.  What is it?

 * SLMR 2.1 *

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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 2538
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93 12:27p
Subj: Jem Disk Trade-In Special               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Did you ever purchase a CD-Rom disc only to find it didn't meet your needs
at all?  You know the one, all it does is sit on the shelf behind old
Computer books and empty Coke cans collecting dust!

Well here's your chance to TRADE it in and get a shiny new copy of Jem Disc
instead at very little cost to you.  Jem Disc was a hot seller last year
and it's file collection stands the test of time (especially if your a
sysop).  There's over 500MB of great files in 59 categories.  The disc
contains FILES.BBS support and there is a plug & play ROMbrain database
available.

For a limited time if you send us an unwanted computer CD-Rom disc and just
$14.95 we'll ship you a copy of Jem Disc!  Shipping & Handling is free.

FREQ the magic name JEMTRADE from 1:203/49 or call 916-921-9949 and download
the files from my logon matrix (enter JEM at the prompt).

(If you are interested in ordering Jem Disc but have nothing to trade FREQ
the file JEMDISC instead - the price is $19.95 plus S&H).


Thanks!

Michael Crosson
Jewel Distributing



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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 2539
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93 12:37p
Subj: Jem Disc Descriptions                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Just a quick note to Jem Disc customers -

The latest Jem Disc FILES.BBS descriptions are available as JEMFILES.ZIP.
As time permits I improve and enhance them so it's worth your while to FREQ
them every so often.

Many of you will be happy to know that I recently finished describing ALL
700+ .GIF files in great detail.

FREQ JEMFILES.ZIP from 1:203/49 at v.32bis speeds (about 250k) or call
916-921-9949 and download them from my logon matrix (enter JEM).

Thanks! - Michael Crosson

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2540
  To: PHILIP S ELROD                           Date: 07/25/93  2:06p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> Do you know of any cd rom drives(internal) for sale under $199

    Mitsumi's sell for about $190 new from any of the big mail order
places, Midwest, DC, Computability.  Look 'em up in the Computer Shopper.

Eric


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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 2541
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93  5:02p
Subj: Re: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (24 Jul 93) Bob Jackson wrote to Doug Carpenter...

 BJ>  MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<
 BJ>
 BJ>  DC> Hogwash.
 BJ>
 BJ>
 BJ> Doug:
 BJ>
 BJ> P-L-E-A-S-E don't start another one of those silly debates over who
 BJ> has
 BJ> the "very lowest" prices. Just run your ads and be kind to your
 BJ> customers. (Pretty Please???)
 BJ>
BJ>  * Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | [phone] |
 BJ> (1:106/30.0)
 BJ> 209/209
 BJ> 10 12 19
        I am interested in Purchasing CD-Rom for Education.
        Do you have anything Like Barney Bear, Arthur Goes to School
        Or Grandma and Me?
        I Would appreciate any info you can send my way.


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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 2542
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93  5:08p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (24 Jul 93) Mike Shannon wrote to All...

 MS>              *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
 MS>                                 pg. 1 of 2
 MS>
 MS>    For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of
 MS> popular
 MS>                    Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!
 MS>
 MS> TITLES INCLUDE:
 MS>
        I am interested in Educational CD-Rom's.
        Example Barney Bear, Arthur Goes to School, Grandma & Me.
        Do you have anything along these lines. Appreciate
        any help I can get.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2543
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC> MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

DC>Hogwash.

Hogwash?  Boy, there's a term I haven't heard in a while.  Like I said
Doug, you're certainly welcome to "call my bluff" any time you see fit.
If it IS "hogwash", then you should have no trouble proving it.  Go ahead
and advertise them for less than $10, and let's see what happens!  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2544
  To: DAVE KALWISHKY                           Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: Chestnut cd's...$10! 1/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DK>DK>MS>  ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30 with
DK>DK>  >  any Chestnut purchase!

DK>Ok Mike, $10 is coming at ya!!

Great!  Got 'em in stock Dave!

z u later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2545
  To: STEVE ELLIOTT                            Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: MS MPC Works                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SE>One quick question, do you ship COD?

Affirmative Steve.  Give me a call anytime.

Bye,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2546
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93 12:34a
Subj: 2 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>Howse 'bout sendin' me a pare of them on 'proval?  (;>  (i.e. same deal
BJ>as last time)

Let me stock up a little first.  Hard to keep these new ones in!  8)

.\\ike

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2547
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/25/93  6:48p
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there I am interested in the:

HK->Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
HK->  Came bundled with SoundBlaster audio card. CD ROM in jewel
HK->case &
HK->docs,
HK->  but no pkg. Still in sealed plastic wrapper. CD ROM drive
HK->reqd.  $28

I would be happy to purchase it from you,  please tell me your address and
where to send the $28 and do I have to pay for postage and I'll enclose the
money order ro whatever.

                                Darren Sellner

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From: BOB CENTERBAR                          Number: 2548
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  3:47p
Subj: CD Library                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I've got a CD Game Library that came bundled with my system for sale.

I'm asking $50.00 for the library which includes:

Chessmaster 3000
Monkey Island
Stellar 7
Loom

Also have the following CD's for sale:

Time Table of History (Science & Innovation)  $20.00

US & World Atlas  $25.00

Will consider reasonable offers. Trades only if local.

Thanks.....Bob


... OFFLINE 1.50  "Live from Central Texas...."
* LAKOTA v1.0

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2549
  To: BRAD RILEY                               Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: Re: RED HOT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    I must say, Boris, that you are good to deal with and have
>>    fair prices. I bought my rom and a disk from you and had a
>>    little trouble setting it up but you helped me out over the
>>    phone.  Have a great day from KC Mo

Always nice to hear from one of our many happy customers !!

I think you'll enjoy our NEW CATALOGUE as well. You'll be getting it
in the mail very soon as well as our customer appreciation catalogue
also. A LOT OF SUPER LOW PRICED cd's in this one, so have your
Visa/MasterCard ready.....grin !!

Chat with you soon......

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2550
  To: JAMES HOGUE                              Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: Re: ORDER REC'D                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Brian, just a note of warning about ProPhone. I've been using
>>    it for about 6 months and have found the search engine to be
>>    VERY buggy. Some towns in the database will not be found by
>>    name but can be found by zip code. There are also GAPING holes
>>    in the data for example it finds only two pawn shops in
>>    Phoenix. It is quite week data wise in California and Florida.

>>    It is the best thing of its kind out there as long as you are
>>    aware of its short comings.

>>    Just wish someone would produce a CD that does what ProPhone is
>>    advertised to do.

James, there is and it's called " Phone Disk USA " !! Much better and
offers a more up to date database as well.

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad to
assist you further.

BTW: Yes..both versions are in stock.

Boris Osadciw

... What Bug! I left behind the roaches in New York!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2551
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: WHILE THEY LAST                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Officers Bookcase       Canadian Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
Chicano Datebase          PC-SIG Games            LaserTax On CD
Phoenix # 3               Jokes&Pranks            Learning Adventure
Business Assistant        World Travler           Sound Sensation
DeathStar Arcade          Colossal CookBook       ClipArt Goliath
Technotools               Our Solar System        Windoware

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress....... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2552
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: RED HOT SUMMER                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2553
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  2:14a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
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 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2554
  To: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/52                Date: 07/25/93  6:59p
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

S9> actually, i would like another one.  but i wonder if my toshiba 3401
S9> could be put into the external case you sell your 3201s in? i have
S9> to put more hardrive in my "other" computer and that means no place
S9> insdie for the cd. it needs to go external, but i'm not keen on on
S9> the price of the "box" by itself.  if i got an external from you,
S9> could i take the 3201 out and put in my 3401?

Yes, you could.  Rod Jensen has made the arrangements.

S9> btw - it was a treat reading the want ads from your town - one
S9> alwyas hears that the cost of living it high in calif and low in the
S9> south - well, your town and mine seem to be pretty comparable on
S9> supermarket ads and rent.

My area has a higher cost of living than some of the other areas of the
south.  Probably because of the higher concentration of engineers around
the Hewlett Packard, Morton-Thiokol, Marshall Space Flight Center,
Lockheed, Toshiba, Pioneer, Chrysler, Teledyne-Brown, Intergraph, and the
list goes on.


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2555
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 07/26/93  1:11a
Subj: CDRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Some CDRoms for sale:

Source -- Gobs of C code                 $20.00   (MAR 92)
C User's Group  -- More Gobs of C code   $20.00   (OCT 92)
GIFs Galore -- 630 Megs of GIFs          $20.00   (1st ED)
CICA Windows -- 540 Megs of Windows      $15.00   (NOV 92)
Simtel -- over 600 Megs of DOS           $15.00   (DEC 92)
CDRom News Vol.1 Iss.2 -- NEXT/LINUX     $15.00
CDRom News Vol.1 Iss.3 -- NEXT/LINUX     $15.00
Hobbes OS/2 -- tons o' OS/2              $15.00   (NOV 92)
Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order.
I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD.
For More Info contact:

Eric Bravick
14014 Halstead Ct. Apt #408
Tampa, FL. 33613

[phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2556
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  6:25a
Subj: SCSI CDROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00 with caddy.

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer.

205-837-5053




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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 2557
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/25/93  3:45p
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IG> 1.Loom
IG> 2.The Secret of Monkey Island

Isreal-

Sorry, no adults disks I want to trade, but I'll offer $32.90 for the above.
Reply here or Netmail. -Thank

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From: TONY MACE                              Number: 2558
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 07/25/93  8:22a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE WANTED                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Edward!

Friday July 23 1993 12:56, Edward Crouser wrote to Tony Mace:

 EC>         How much? I have one I might be willing to sell.

Sorry, already found a SCSI Toshiba one for my PAS16....

Tony

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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 2559
  To: DISK VENDORS                             Date: 07/20/93  8:53p
Subj: catalog request                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Please send a catalog to:


... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: JAMES PRICE                            Number: 2560
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  8:57p
Subj: CD-ROM CACHING????                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Is there a major <if any> improvement in caching a CD-rom with 435 ms
access time and 150kb transfer rate???

Is there a program that will Cache my CD-rom and my hard drive also??

Saw a public domain program, but it wouldn't work.  I think it said
something about the trial period expired.

If you use a Cache on your drive, please send me a note on how you
like it...



Thanks in advance.




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From: JAMES PRICE                            Number: 2561
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/23/93  8:57p
Subj: ENCYLCLOPEDIA                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am interested in purchasing a Multi-Media Encyclopedia, I would
prefer Windows MPC.

I noticed that Compton's has "Interactive", "MM" and "MPC" versions.
What are the differences feature wise between each???

I know MM is DOS and MPC is Windows.  Is Interactive Windows also??
Any added features in one version over the others?

Also noticed the Grolier's has multiple versions.

Which do you think is better?  And why?




Thanks in advance for your help.  Trying to decide which one to buy.





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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2562
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:55a
Subj: Re: DICT & LANG                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Bob Jackson <07-01-93 22:08> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS> It's going out to you today, along with the $6 shareware CD, and Oink
MS> 2 (for review).

What's Oink 2?  We haven't seen that one yet.  Or has my brother been hiding
the new smut stuff from me?  <grin>

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2563
  To: RICK MEENAN                              Date: 07/25/93 11:02a
Subj: Re: Looking For a cd-rom                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-12-93 15:25> Rick Meenan wrote:

RM> I've been looking for a CD-ROM containing GIF photos of porno stars.
RM> I'm pretty new at this so don't know what's out there that may have
RM> the material I'm looking for.  Therefore, anyone selling a CD-ROM(s) they
RM> think might be of help drop me a line.  I'd be interested in getting
RM> catalogs from anyone thinking they have what I'm looking for.  Let me
RM> know what's out there guys!

There are several adult titles available on the market.  Most of them
duplicate each other to a large degree.  I personally recommend finding a
reputable publisher, and sticking with them.  Lee Noga's discs are top-notch
and she's a regular participant here in the echos.  Look for Ecstasy Hot Pics
or Busty Babes at a dealer near you.  Of course, we stock both of them, and
you can give us a call at [phone] or [phone] for more
information.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2564
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/25/93 11:06a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Jeff Jenkins <07-11-93 21:58> J.p. Ladner wrote:

JL> I'm interested in this drive but I'm leary of a 150ms drive and
JL> software for only $200 ???

The Mitsumi is a low-cost drive, and can be found brand-new for as low as $175
if you shop around.  The going rate appears to be about $190.  I personally
don't recommend the drive, as whenever there's a disc returned to me as
defective, it works fine in our office.  I call the customer to inquire about
the type of drive they're using, and they ALWAYS say, "Mitsumi."  Seems the
Mitsumi has a problem reading many of the discs out there on the market.
HOWEVER, industry sources have indicated that Mitsumi has found a problem with
their controller card, and have corrected it.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
[phone] / [phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2565
  To: JOE STEVENS                              Date: 07/25/93 11:14a
Subj: Re: CD ROM...                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-13-93 17:07> Joe Stevens wrote:

JS> I am interested in Purchasing a CD ROM drive.  I have looked at
JS> several models... the one whick is the least expensive and still
JS> offers reasonable features is a mitsumi brand.  Does anyone out there
JS> have one and do you know if it is any good?  Also... I have been told
JS> it only has an 8 bit interface card... not a 16 bit.  What is the
JS> advantage to a 16 bit interface?

If you decide to go with the Mitsumi, make sure you get one of the "newer"
ones with 350ms access time, and a 16-bit controller.  The 16-bit controller
allows you more configuration options, which come in handy on a "busy" system.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2566
  To: JESSE SCHMELZER                          Date: 07/25/93 11:18a
Subj: Re: NIght Owl 9.0                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-12-93 04:32> Jesse Schmelzer wrote:

JS> Can anyone beat the 29.00 for night owl 9.0?? if so give me the # to
JS> order.

I may know someone who can fix you up:

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
[phone] / [phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2567
  To: KEITH SHEEHAN                            Date: 07/25/93 11:51a
Subj: Re: MS BOOKSHELF '93 MPC                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-10-93 21:30> Keith Sheehan wrote:

KS> Does any CD Distributer that advertises thier products on this echo
KS> have the 1993 edition of the Microsoft Bookshelf (MPC Version) for
KS> less than $129 that I've seen it for in such places as Elek-Tek &
KS> Comp USA. I was intereted in purchasing this disk but I don't want to
KS> spend on $129 on an electronic version of some books I already have!
KS> I can justify looking up things in the books for that price.

Give us a call, and I'm sure we can save you some serious money on that title.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2568
  To: KEITH RITCHIE                            Date: 07/25/93  3:20p
Subj: Re: Winbox CD Problem                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-21-93 21:46> Keith Ritchie wrote:

KR>  I just got the Winbox Cd from Starvector and I am having a bear of a
KR> time getting it to work. It keeps lookingg for a Project1 file that
KR> is nowhere to be found. I checked the power.cfg file and it has the
KR> correct info. Help... it seems like a good CD from the Dir listing
KR> but it is worthless if you can't access it.

Call your dealer and ask for the "fix."  There is a slight problem with the
interface on some of the discs out there.  The fix is available from our BBS,
too.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
[phone] / [phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS/Fax)

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2569
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 07/25/93  3:23p
Subj: Re: Windows                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Dave Reed <07-21-93 06:46> Philip Polstra wrote:

PP>  DR> Get both discs for only $34!  Please mention
PP>  DR> that you saw the ad in FidoNet, because these discs are regularly
PP>  DR> sold for $34 each.
PP>
PP> Gee, I paid $39 not $34 when I bought them from ya just a week or too
PP> ago.

I set the prices, based on what I pay for the discs.  When I'm able to secure
better pricing, I pass that along to the customer.  You just happened to
purchase from the end of our previous inventory.  David charges what I tell
him to charge.  :-)

Next time you order, mention this, and I'm pretty sure we can give you a
discount on your next purchase to make up for the difference.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2570
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 07/25/93  3:26p
Subj: Re: NighOwl 9                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-19-93 17:03> Manny Wise wrote:

MW> I was ready to buy it for 37.00...but them I hear someone said:it can
MW> be bough for 25.00 a piece..? Any true on that ???????????

Yes, sir.

Jackie Rogers
CD-ROM International
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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2571
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/25/93  3:30p
Subj: Re: cd's shipping to cana               Refer: NONE
Read: 07/29/93  7:29a                       Private: No

In a message to Kirk Rawnsley <07-23-93 06:28> Tim Helton wrote:

TH> Exporting adult material to Canada can be a hassle.... There must be
TH> 500 people working at the border censoring the material that enters
TH> the country.

I think it's more like 500 people at EACH POINT of entry into Canada!  :-)

Jackie

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2572
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  7:56p
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*********************************************************************
************************  CD-ROM International  *********************
************************      Adult Titles      *********************
*********************************************************************

101 Positions, Part 1        $45     My First Time (Things Change)$50
101 Positions, Part 2        $45     My Private Collection, Vol 1 $33
Adult Palate                 $38     My Private Collection, Vol 2 $33
Adult Reference Library      $30     Night Watch Interactive      $49
After Dark Trilogy           $45     PC-PIX, Vol 1                $33
All Beauties                 $28     PC-PIX, Vol 2                $33
Amateur Models               $37     PC-PIX, Vol 3                $33
Animation Fantasies v1.0     $33     Physical Therapy             $23
Asian Ladies                 $33     Porkware, Vol 1              $33
Best of Vivid Clips          $45     Porkware, Vol 2              $33
Busty Babes                  $29     Private Pictures             $33
Busty Babes v3               $35     Rimfire XXX Mini-Movies      $44
Club Expose                  $46     Seedy Movies Disc            $42
Digital Dancing              $49     Seedy Rom v1                 $27
Digital Dreams               $32     Seedy Rom v2                 $27
Dirty Talk                   $45     Seedy Rom v3                 $27
Doors of Passion             $45     Seedy Rom v4                 $27
Ecstacy Hot Pics             $38     Seedy Rom v5                 $27
Erotic Encounters            $33     Seedy Rom v6                 $27
GBL (Gay, Bi and Lesbian)    $33     Seedy Rom v7 (Seventh Heaven)$27
Giffy Gold                   $33     Seymore Butts                $49
Girls of Vivid               $40     Smutware                     $32
Girls of Vivid, Vol 2        $40     So Much StareWARE            $33
Hidden Obsessions            $49     Southern Beauties            $33
Hot Pix, Vol 2               $32     Storm 1                      $27
Hot Pix, Vol 3               $32     Storm 2                      $32
Hot Pix, Vol 4               $32     Storm 3                      $32
Hot Pix, Vol 5               $32     Swimwear '93                 $30
House of Dreams              $49     Visual Fantasies             $28
House of Sleeping Beauties   $44     Volcano                      $32
Kama Sutra                   $69     Wicked                       $58
Lovely Ladies                $33     Women of Venus               $34
Manpower                     $33     X-Treme                      $32
Moving Fantasies             $27     XXX Extreme                  $33

*********************************************************************
*****************  Credit Card and COD Orders Welcome  **************
*********************************************************************

       CD-ROM International             [phone]  (Orders)
       108 4th Ave SW                   [phone]  (Voice)
       PO Box 723                       [phone]  (BBS/Fax)
       Ephrata WA 98823-0723            1:344/79 (FidoNet)

     Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2573
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/25/93  7:34a
Subj: REVIEW OF "DIGITAL DREAMS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Yep, Lee's sent me a copy of BB3. Haven't had the cjance to go through it
thoroughly yet, but "Showoff" looks very interesting. You can expect a
thorough DD-like review of it shortly. (And thanks for the kind words!)

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From: KEITH SATURN                           Number: 2574
  To: CHRISTIAN SMITH                          Date: 07/25/93  6:21p
Subj: MAP CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Christian Smith to All <=-

 CS> I heard there is a CD that has every street in the US on it. IF
 CS> anyone knows what it is can you tell me the cost of it.

Are you looking for a map of every street or a CrissCross Directory type of
thing?  If you're looking for the directory type of thing, so am I.  I think
one of the national phone books on CD might do the trick!.

                        Keith Saturn.

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From: KEITH SATURN                           Number: 2575
  To: ANDREW HUIGE                             Date: 07/25/93  6:21p
Subj: looking for a diask                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Andrew Huige to All <=-

 AH> *All,
 AH> I heard of a disk with well over 450 files, I am looking for a
 AH> disk to  start a bbs with, so if you have any suggestions where I can

Why settle for 450 files? I used the Simtel20 CD on my BBS and that had over
7500 files!  Simtel@0 CDs  can be ordered at 1-800-786-9907.  I don't work
for them, I'm just satisfied with what they had to offer!  You can also try
some of the vendor's in this echo.

                        Keith Saturn.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2576
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  7:16p
Subj: Review of Busty Babes #3                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

First, many thanks to "Lady Lee" (Noga) of Florida Lion's Den, Inc.
for sending me a copy of "Busty Babes Volume #1 Release 3.0" (BB3) for
review.

Secondly, this review will follow the format, style, and content
paradigms that were used in my reviews of "Digital Dreams" (Ero Tek) and
"Pork Ware I" inasmuch as there will be three parts: Statistics,
Operations, and Visual.  I will use the same criteria as I outlined in my
previous descriptions of those parts.

Thirdly, having learned that FidoNet can tolerate reasonably long posts,
I'll use only three messages for this review, one for each of the parts
named above.

Finally, remember, WHAT FOLLOWS IS ONE PERSON'S OPINION.  While I try
very hard to be as objective as possible in writing these reviews,
(objectivity is part of what I do to satisfy Maslow), individual
preferences, both mine and yours, will always introduce some level of
subjectivity, particularly in the operations and visual parts.  All set?
Here we go.....

Statistics
==========

This section focuses on numerical data relative to the physical contents
of the CD.

Let me begin by stating that measuring the exact number of files on a CD
isn't as simple as it may sound, nor all that important.  Most CDs these
days have thousands of files on them, particularly image CDs and
shareware CDs.  While one might assume that a simple DIR would suffice,
it won't.  First, DIR will count the . and .. subdirectory "files" (note:
these have been taken into account in the figures below).  Secondly, even
when using DIR with a "qualifier" like *.GIF, a directory may show files
that aren't actually there, or are corrupted in some way that makes them
useless and therefore might as well not be there.  Finally, what my
CD-ROM drive can read, yours may not, and vice-versa.  Accordingly, when
I give various counts and sizes and you subsequently find that your stats
don't EXACTLY agree with mine, don't take it too hard.

BB3 disclosed a count of 2663 GIF files (not counting the catalog
files - more on those later) totaling 499 Mb.  That yields an
average byte size of 187 Kb per GIF which is consistent with the
observation that most of the GIFs are either 800x600 or 640x480 in
resolution and most occupy relatively large portions of the screen when
displayed normally.  All told, the CD disclosed 3278 files occupying 528
Mb.  The difference of 615 files is accounted for by the 200 catalog GIF
files and by the utilities and other programs included on the CD.

Comparing BB3 GIF files names against my those in my data base taken from
BB1 (Rel. 1 not Rel. 2), I found 1731 duplicate names.  Had I been able
to run the comparison against BB2, doubtless a larger number would have
been forthcoming.  Run against the whole data base, an additional 398
duplicate names were found.  These numbers indicate that BB3 is indeed
just as her producer advertised: essentially a re-make of BB2 to correct
past "sins", at least as far as the GIF files are concerned.

Within BB3 itself, I found 10 GIF files that were duplicated.  That is,
there are 10 pairs of files where each member of a pair contains exactly
the same image.  One of the pairs even shares the same name:
"L_HONEY5.GIF" which appears in two different directories.  The other
nine pairs have different names and appear in the same or different
directories as their "image mates".

Operations to follow...


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2577
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  7:17p
Subj: Review of Busty Babes #3                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Visual
======

This part of the review focuses on the visual merits of the CD's imagery
as judged by this reviewer.  Accordingly, it is more subjective than
either of the two preceding parts. and should be taken as such.

Like its forebearers, BB3 is a full-blown X-rated CD.  Some of its images
are as raw as raw legally gets.  It's worth noting that a large number of
the scans are R-rated in that, outside of exhibitionism, no sexual
activity is depicted at all.  This is primarily true of the "BUSTYn"
directories (0 <= n <= 6).

Comparing BB3 GIF files names against my those in my data base taken from
BB1 (Rel. 1 not Rel. 2), I found 1731 duplicate names.  Had I been able
to run the comparison against BB2, doubtless a larger number would have
been forthcoming.  Run against the whole data base, an additional 398
duplicate names were found.  These numbers indicate that BB3 is indeed
just as her producer advertised: essentially a re-make of BB2 to correct
past "sins", at least as far as credits for the GIF files are concerned.

Within BB3 itself, I found 10 GIF files that were duplicated.  That is,
there are 10 pairs of files where each member of a pair contains exactly
the same image.  One of the pairs even shares the same name:
"L_HONEY5.GIF" which appears in two different directories.  The other
nine pairs have different names and appear in the same or different
directories as their "image mates".  There may be other pairs, but I
didn't detect them with my computer-aided processes.

Like it predecessors, BB3's images are by and large quite good.
Certainly they are on a par with contemporary releases.  Most images are
either 640x480 or 800x600 in resolution.  The scans are generally sharp
and professional looking in appearance.  If you already have one or two
of the more popular adult image CDs, (e.g. Ecstasy, FAO, Seedy ROM, etc.)
you'll feel right at home with the quality of BB3's pictures.

As previously mentioned, BB3's directory structure is an improvement over
BB1 and BB2, IMHO.  In addition, there are some scans that aren't in
either of the predecessor volumes - not enough to warrant purchase solely
based on that fact, but nice lagniappe if you're going to buy the disk
anyway.  Finally, there's a truly new directory in that all of its images
(some 115 of them) are definitely not in either BB1 or BB2.  That is the
"MICHELLA" directory and it's contents are exclusively scans of a lady by
that name.  These scans are soft and generally dark.  They're pleasant
enough; mostly "R to hard R" and frequently with an unnamed lady friend
in tender-looking poses.  If I had to chose a single word, on the whole
(no pun intended) I'd call them artistic.

In sum, if you're looking for an adult CD with a variety of subject
matter, BB3 would be a good choice.  If you're a true collector, you'll
probably want BB3 to complete the set; I'm sure FLD's not planning a Rel.
4.0 - there'd be no point to it.  Release 1.0 is already a collector's
item;  Release 2.0 doesn't surrender anything meaningful to Release 3.0
in image content; Release 3.0's raison d'etre, outside of some mea culpa
rapair work, is SO.  There's just no more mileage in this collection.

So, Lee, what'cha got up your sleeves for us next?  Whatever it is, make
sure SO hangs in there!
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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2578
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/25/93 11:26p
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello There Jackie!

In a message to All <07/25/93> Jackie Rogers wrote:

JR> *********************************************************************
JR> ************************  CD-ROM International  *********************
JR> ************************      Adult Titles      *********************
JR> *********************************************************************


JR>      Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS
JR> *********************************************************************

Nice prices...........

JR> ... If Clinton is the answer, it must have been a stupid question!

Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

John

 * WCE 1.10/2035 * Just Another Happy Wildcat Sysop..1:138/173

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From: TAMI THOMPSON                          Number: 2579
  To: PETER CLAUSEN                            Date: 07/25/93  9:04p
Subj: CDROM + Amiga 2000 + Zeus               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PC> The Zeus came with a startup-icon for removable
 PC> media that one supposedly drops into the start-up
 PC> drawer (I'm running AmigaDos 2.1), but this does
 PC> not help me any.  Is this just for things like
 PC> Syquests and the like?  Not CD's?
 PC> So I guess I need to get Xetec's driver to make things work?
Yes, you need the Xetec, or another such as AsimWare (my personal preference),
file system to get the CDROM to work w/the Amiga.  Either of these will also
let you emulate a CDTV, enabling you to run CDTV disks (please note, neither
gives you 100% compatibility to run all CDTV disks).  Good luck, and have fun!
-Tami

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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 2580
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/26/93  9:33a
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 HK> Thanks for the message on the encyclopedia. I've had one other person
 HK> contact me on it, and I left them a message back. If they decide not to
 HK> take the CD, I'll drop you a note again to see if you want it.

         I sure would like that. I am holding the 28.00 for this purpose
alone and I wouldn't buy Ice cream with that money, in this heat. Tnxx.

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2581
  To: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                        Date: 07/25/93  7:47a
Subj: Re: TRADE ADULT CD FOR AD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 23 Jul 93  16:39:50, I heard Jerry Gerolymatos shout to Kevin Plummer:

JG> I'll give you money for the Volcano cd if you don't mind, cause I don't hav
JG> any other cd like that. Just tell me the price.

Well, I would have rathered traded for it, But...  The Disk is like brand New,
I think it was used maybe 6 or 7 times, I put it On-Line for my users, and
they really didn't use it, Soooo, I want to get another disk.  So how about
$28.00 and you pay shipping ???


                   ......|<evin

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From: EARL HARSHBARGER                       Number: 2582
  To: MICHAEL MULCAHY                          Date: 07/16/93  3:07p
Subj: Re: Encyclopedia CD's                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 * Reply to msg originally in CDROM For Sale (Fido)

 -=> Quoting Terry Blount to Michael Mulcahy <=-

 MM> I am looking for an Encyclopedia CD collection that my  children
 MM> can utilize as a good reference for school.  I have  heard  that

 TB> I carry the 1992 21 volume Grolier"Academic America Encyclopedia"
 TB> for $69.  This is the best encyclopedia I have seen.  It includes

 I can vouch for the Grolier Encyclopedia.  We received as part of a package
 that came with a computer we purchased for our school.  It is so easy to
 use.  The students love it.  It (the CD) is much cheaper than buying the
 hardcopy set and it easier to purchase a new edition every couple of years.
 You might be able to find a better price than the above, I think I saw it
 for as low as $49.  It is a great package for the price.

 Hope this helps.

 --Earl


... Two most common elements in the universe: Hydrogen & Stupidity.
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2583
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93 10:05a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Rel. 3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <07-24-93 06:53> Bob Jackson wrote:


BJ>> Just a short note for now saying that BB3 has arrived safe and sound.

Great--Remember it is still Volumn 1 but release/version 3.0 of that volumn!
Don't want the user's to think it is Vol III--

Thanks !

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2584
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/25/93 10:29a
Subj: SHOWOFF! Interface-The 90               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Bob Jackson <07-22-93 12:45> Vince Sorensen wrote:

VS>> I think the interface for Busty Babes Release 3.0 is
VS>> the best, period, and I've _made_ excellent interfaces for other
VS>> Of course, I'm biased because I distribute it (and Erotek's Digital
VS>> Dreams), but I use much less bandwidth for my propaganda <g>!

Ahh Vince--Your so sweet, but it has nothing to do with 'Bias'--SHOWOFF! was
developed by a team of PhD's that decided the user lacked a true imaging
toolbox--SHOWOFF is the technology that was destined to replace VPIC and CSHOW
etc--It has a better color pallette, and it allows you to manage your image
collection which is the plus here--The other packages just allow you to view
the image with clumbsy configurations--This package auto detects your video
needs and self installs, finds the dupes images on your drives, allows you to
build pages of images (1 to 1,024), magnifies any portion of the image many
times, and so on--The shareware version of this is on the Busty Babes in
addition to the scaled down version licensed to us as the interface--So you
have 2 goodies to play with on Busty ! Yes, the entire shareware version is on
the disc as well--

Can't wait until the windows version of this is ready ! You'll find it on our
future discs as well-

Thanks for the 'Kudo' !

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: WILLIAM BYRD                           Number: 2585
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/25/93  6:12p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Rel. 3                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bob,

  I hope you find this disk to be of as good of quality as I have so far.  I
especially like the ease of use that Showoff provides over its predecessor on
the original BB disk.  The quality of both the disk and material on it are in
my own personal opinon outstanding.  This disk shows us that pride in a job
well done is not yet dead in America.  Granted that some out there may not
approve of this type of material but that being beside the point this disk is
of the highest quality workmanship I've seen lately.

Wm.

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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 2586
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/25/93  5:18p
Subj: NEW CD RELEASE - Southern               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          **********  Graphical Images of Florida, Inc. **********
             Announces The NEW RELEASE of   "Southern Beauties"
                A Fully Commercial - Fully Copyrighted Disc

675 Megs-OVER 65 Top Models-1000 GIFs-1024x768x256 From Original 35mm Slides
Includes 300 Megs of the Best GIFs in 24 bit True Color. Installs Quickly &
Easily - Menu Driven - User Friendly - Popup Help Menus - Mouse Support -
Keyword Search - Sound Blaster Front Loader - Multiple Directory Slide Show

To Order Contact: Faye Sharp at Tradeshows Inc. 317-651-9848 or 317-651-1223

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2587
  To: CHAD NEWMAN                              Date: 07/25/93 10:22p
Subj: Trade for Adult CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CN>I would like to trade "Cream of the Crop" Shareware CD (valued at $39.00) fo
CN>an Adult CD.  I have a few other games I'm willing to through in for the tra

How about a copy of Pc-Pix Volume II?

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2588
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:28p
Subj: Sell Me 2 CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>We have two brand new ones:  Southern Beauties and Amateur Models, both of
MS>which **I believe** are all original scans.  $35 ea. or both for $69.

Mike,
You still have my address, right? Send them both to me, please. BTW, you
DID get the disk I returned, right? Terry

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2589
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:30p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike,

MS>1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,

Send me this one, too, ok?

MS>4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities, debuggers,

And this one...

MS>5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,

And this one...

Thanks,
Terry

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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2590
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 10:31p
Subj: MORE $10 CD'S!!!      2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>8.  CLIPART GOLIATH - Over 10,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats, plus

Send me this one too, please...

MS>12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for all

And this one.

Thanks,
Terry

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From: SHAWN MAY                              Number: 2591
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  2:43p
Subj: The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encycl  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    Anyone interested in "The software toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia,
comes with a little manual, lookif for 40$ OBO..

    Shawn

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From: NEIL ALLEN                             Number: 2592
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 07/27/93  2:45p
Subj: Adult Cd-Roms                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Michellea Sorensen to All <=-

 MS> Starting July 24th, you can get an extra bonus: your
 MS> copy will be hand-signed by moi, since I'm one of the
 MS> Canadian models <g>!      (Yes, I go all the way!)

 MS> Get BUSTY BABES, release 3.0 for a special price of $50
 MS> that includes all taxes. PLUS there's no delay or worry
 MS> about an unscheduled stop at customs, because they're
 MS> shipped direct to you from within Canada!

        Hi Michellea,  do you appear in the previous released versions?
What other CD titles do you have available and where can I get a price
listing of these CD's?

ttys

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2593
  To: HAROLD WEISS                             Date: 07/29/93  7:55a
Subj: Mailing List                            Refer: 5938
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> To any Vendors: WE HAVE MONEY ! :)

By all means, give me a call !  We publish the Shareware Studio &
SoundWAV CDs... We distribute other titles as well.

Tim Helton
Data Express, Inc.
Voice : 404-621-9210
FAX   : [phone]
FIDO  :    1:133/515
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2594
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/29/93  7:01a
Subj: HERE WE ARE                             Refer: 5952
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->  TH> OK, we're all proud... Please end this thread.
->
->  TH> tim
->  TH> moderator
->
-> Was just curious if you are going to implement the new rules that Bob
-> posted in the CDROM echo....

Dunno... I do know that I'll fight til the death to preserve my (and
your) right to free speech, provided that such free speech doesn't cause
anyone harm.  I WILL NOT (and never will) implement policy for the
purpose of force feeding morality.... That was your parent's job, not
mine.

Please, any discussion on this topic should be sent netmail (1:133/515)
and NOT posted in this echo.

tim
moderator/libertarian
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2595
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 07/29/93  7:13a
Subj: BUBBA!!!!                               Refer: 5961
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Do we have to listen about this CRAP! for the next year or so?
-> I for one am getting sick of it.
-> These messages are ALL of topic and do not belong in this echo.
-> Please put an end to it!

Yes Sir!

I'm doing my best, but when folks like you keep throwing the topics back
up for discussion, it makes my job tougher.

The best way to stop a kid from whining is to ignore um.  The same
principal applies to this echo...

tim
moderator
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2596
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 07/29/93  7:57a
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: 5969
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Come on, vendors. This is the 90's. I know margins are tight, but man
-> machines are cheaper than the CD drives you sell, and a dedicated lin
-> writeoff.

Hey Don,

I've wondered the same thing... With stand alone FAX machines costing
only $300, it puzzles me how someone could justify NOT having one with
a dedicated line attached.

FAX me - I'm ready to deal!

tim
FAX : [phone]
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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 2597
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 07/25/93  4:02p
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DP> There was a bug in the original version.  You can freq
 DP> the "fix" file from us as
 DP> "WBOXFIX.ZIP" at 1:161/205.  Sorry for the problems -
 DP> the disk isn't exactly
 DP> worthless w/o the front end, wouldn't you agree?  :>

    I noticed that fix file on your board. Unfortunatly I had called looking
for alternative FILES.BBS files in a format for Maximus/Opus. On the inside
cover it says " Damar Enterprises provides their FILES.BBS listings in many
specific BBS formats. Please call our 24 hour/day BBS for a complete selection
of FREE downloads to support the CD Winbox". I called looking for them to no
avail....where can I get them?
    DCK


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From: DONALD MACKAY                          Number: 2598
  To: KAREL VITAMVAS                           Date: 07/28/93  2:51p
Subj: CD Caddies                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Why thank you very much Karen.

ttyl

/usr/dan

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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 2599
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  1:23a
Subj: MITSUMI 350ms CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone know if the proprietary controller that comes with the
mitsumi 16 bit 350ms access drive will support a second drive?

I'd like to add a second drive but dont have a free card slot for
another controller <grin> or frankly the IRQ to space.

James

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From: ROBBIE WILKES                          Number: 2600
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  1:01p
Subj: Libel and the single  1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I've been quietly following this whole proceeding between Michael Benge
and Terry Woodward, and must say that I'm a little confused.  From my
end, this is what I've perceived to have happened:

1) Michael & Terry agreed to "trade" CD's, each "cross-shipping" their
   respective CD to the other.

2) Michael sent off his CD, as agreed. Terry, on the other hand, was tied
   up, albeit with good reason, and did not send out the CD as promised.

3) Michael then stated on the echo, pretty politely at the time, that he
   was having problems in completing the deal with Terry.  Whether he
   had jumped the gun at this time, or not, I don't know.  If he hadn't
   tried to discuss it with Terry, either voice, or in a personal
   message in the echo, then he should have.  Regardless, I remember that
   the initial message from him was actually pretty civil.

4) Terry responded to Michael's message fairly vehemently.  I do remember
   that he was the first one to start calling names, and that he stated
   that he had been too busy to send out his CD, and that he was no
   longer interested in completing the deal, because he didn't like the
   CD that Michael had sent.

5) At this point, things disintegrated.  Michael, showing his hot-
   headedness, which has already caused run-ins with others
   (myself included), continued to press the matter, provoking other
   users to get involved.

6) The moderator of the echo, obviously a friend of the "well-liked" and
   "much respected" Terry Woodward did something that I thought was a
   little strange by personally attacking Michael, and defending Terry,
   as did many others.

7) The matter has continued to develop to the point where it is now.
   Little pot shots at Michael from various users, provoking further
   responses from Michael to defend his point...  All while the main
   point is forgotten...

MAIN POINT

   Obviously Mr. Woodward has alot of friends on this echo, and
   undoubtedly there's a reason for that.  I'm sure he's a very nice
   fellow, and, like I said, the explanations that he gave for being
   tied up were perfectly understandable.  I've never dealt with him,
   but I would not hesitate at all to deal with him.  Believe me, I
   know how hectic things can be sometimes... and I don't always get
   my stuff out as soon as I should. To me, his reputation is untarnished.

   Mr. Benge, on the other hand, has obviously already enlightened a
   number of users to his personality.  As I said, I've personally dealt
   with Mike, and it is not something I will EVER do again.  He still
   owes my wife an apology for a tantrum he threw, during a FAVOR I was
   doing for HIM.   (I'm still waiting Mike, and I haven't forgot.)

   However, all that aside...  from where I stand, it was Terry that did
   not complete his end of the deal, no matter the reasons.  Mike upheld
   his end of the bargain, sending out his CD in good faith, and waited
   to receive Terry's.  Terry, on the other hand, did not send out the
   CD as expected, and instead returned Mike's CD to him after reviewing
   it, and determining that he didn't like it.  Not quite as agreed upon.

   So the questions remain...

   1) Did Michael Benge have a right to complain about the way the deal
      was handled?

      Not to the degree that he has, although, like I said, he started it
      fairly civily, and it has devolved to where it is now, largely
      due to the input of other users.

      Believe me, I've been involved in many, many deals on the echoes,
      and I have now been ripped off 6 times.  In each case I stated
      my point, very civily, and have been attacked by others, even
      though I was the victim.  One time in particular I was up against
      another well known user, and was castrated when I brought up our
      problems, by other users, and the moderator.  Of course, my
      "revenge" came in watching the same person rip off several other
      users, before he dropped out of sight.  Still had my money, but
      so many people had to eat their words.

  2) Does Michael have a right to expect the $2.90 that he spent on
     postage?

     Yes.  He dealt in good faith.  He had to spend the money to send
     out a CD for no reason.  So he is deserving.

3)  Is Michael Benge a "jerk", and should he make that call and apologize
    to my wife, and should he go ahead and forward the $2.90 to me for
    having to mail his stuff to him out of my pocket as well as the scans
    I did as a favor?

    You decide.

But never, ever forget who the victim is.

(Continued to next message)


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From: ROBBIE WILKES                          Number: 2601
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  1:01p
Subj: Libel and the single  2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

(Continued from previous message)


... CP [IR] * Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.


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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 2602
  To: JAMES PRICE                              Date: 07/28/93 12:38a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM CACHING????                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

James,
I belive you're talking about a cache called Cache-all.  It supposedly is
able to cache any media.  If you want, I can dig up their BBS number so you
can DL the newest version.

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 2603
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 07/28/93  5:57p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You commented to Peter Dettelis recently:

LF>do have the Best of the Bureau. It suffers from weak search/retrieval,
LF>in that it allows only an entire article (as opposed to a user-selected
LF>portion) to be output to disk. I infer (perhaps incorrectly) that the
LF>full-size Bureau publications have the same problem. Do you know if that
LF>is the case?

While I don't have the full-size pubs you asked about, I've seen the same type
of engine used on the two disks that I do have from them: World Fact Book, and
U. S. History.  I agree that it is sometimes a bother to save to disk a long
file, and then have to edit it separately to collect a small fragment, perhaps
as a quotation that I might paste into another document.

There are a couple ways of making life a bit easier, I've found.  You can save
the article, F8 seems to be a popular way with them, and then edit it
afterwards with your favorite editor/word-cruncher routine.  Or, you could save
it as an article and use Vern Buerg's LIST.COM to find and collect the portion.
 You might also locate the file by using GREP on the list of files to locate
directly the filename, bypassing the engine, and then editing a copy of that
file; this involves expertise of working from the command line, which is often
a terrible experience for some folks.  I've not found a different method that
was acceptable, and will be curious to learn if you discover one.

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Murphy is out there somewhere ... just waiting ...


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From: KAREL VITAMVAS                         Number: 2604
  To: CHRISTIAN SMITH                          Date: 07/27/93  5:19p
Subj: MAP CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CS> I heard there is a CD that has every street in the US on it. IF

I think there are several different titles available.  I have PRECISION MAPPING
U.S.A. VERSION 1993.   It contains 2 CDROMs For the maps and 1 CD ROM with the
AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONE BOOK as a bonus.  It retails in Canada for $139.95 CAD.
                                            Karel
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From: KAREL VITAMVAS                         Number: 2605
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/27/93  5:26p
Subj: Small problem                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I also have PRECISION MAPPING and I'm also having the same problems that came
up here.

MS>even find New York or Chicago! All other functions work perfectly. Is this

                                             Karel
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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 2606
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 07/28/93  6:09p
Subj: CDT = CD'S, TRAVEL                      Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No

I'll call you.  I do read the CD-ROM For Sale echo but don't respond much in
it.  I do read and respond in the CD-ROM echo area.  I'll be going to COMDEX
again this year.  Will I see you there?


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From: TED KIDD                               Number: 2607
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 07/28/93  2:12a
Subj: CDRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EB> Some CDRoms for sale:

EB> Source -- Gobs of C code                 $20.00   (MAR 92)

Is this disc BBS compatible?  If so, I might just order it...
:)
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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2608
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 07/28/93  6:42a
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > IG>I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have
 > completed it.
  >>Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
 >
 > Sure, what would you like?  I carry most titles.  Give me a call.
 >
 >                                                         Jim...

Sorry, but I have already traded it.


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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2609
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 07/28/93  6:44a
Subj: RE: THE 7TH GUEST                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >IG> I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed
 >IG> it. Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
 >IG> -TWITCH the Vorpal Bunny-
 >
 > Israel, I have Asian Ladies available in trade for 7th Guest if
 > interested.
 > As it is an adult CD, you'll need to state "over 21", as I don't
 > wish to
 > "corrupt" (overjoy, more likely!) any young and impressionable
 > minds.
 > Thanks in advance.
 >
 > ,\\ark

Sorry, I have already traded it.


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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2610
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 07/28/93  2:27p
Subj: Re: The 7Th Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 IG> I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed
 IG> it. Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
 IG> -TWITCH the Vorpal Bunny-

MJ>Israel, I have Asian Ladies available in trade for 7th Guest if
MJ>interested.
MJ>As it is an adult CD, you'll need to state "over 21", as I don't wish to
MJ>"corrupt" (overjoy, more likely!) any young and impressionable minds.
MJ>Thanks in advance.

MJ>,\\ark



MJ>... Clinton will tax wealthy Americans. Congratulations! You're rich!

I might have been interested, but I don't do buisness with people who show the
distaste of forwarding their unsolicited political views.

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From: MARK STEIGER                           Number: 2611
  To: CHRIS MORGAN                             Date: 07/28/93  8:12p
Subj: interface card                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Chris!

24 Jul 93, Chris Morgan writes to Mark Steiger:

 CM> Well, I don't own one but the Sound Blaster 16 has one on it.

What are you talking about?  Could you please quote alittle from my original
message?

Thanks

Mark

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2612
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  8:20a
Subj: CD Sales                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Some of the shareware CD-Roms I recommend for BBSes are:

So Much Shareware 3 - The tops for Spitfire! .................... $39
Night Owl 9 - Large and recent collection ....................... $39
Big Sky ROM - Has some older files, but great collection ........ $48
Software Vault 2 - All 1993 Files. Easy to set up ............... $29
CD Winbox - Very recent and NICE collection for Windows fans .... $29
Digital Dreams by Ero Tek - Adult disk with Playboy style pics .. $32

Call the Computer Works BBS and download Catalog.zip for a listing of
all titles with prices and descriptions.

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 2613
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/28/93  9:24p
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  VS> CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA...306-789-4654 SAMPLE TITLES FROM OUR
  VS> CATALOG
  VS> -----------------------------------------------
  VS> AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK - FANTAZIA FONTS  - TEMPRA ACCESS ANIMALS
  VS> MULTIMEDIA          - SCI-FI/FANTASY  - CD WINBOX ARTHUR'S TEACHER
  VS> TROUBLE    - GAMES 1993      - SWIMWEAR '93 BARNEY BEAR GOES TO SCHOOL
  VS> - KINGS QUEST 5   - WINDOWS 1993 MIXED UP MOTHER GOOSE       - NIGHT
  VS> OWL 9     - RETURN TO THE MOON EDUCATION MASTER            - LEARNING
  VS> FRENCH - PUBLISHER'S DREAM DISK ENCYCLOPEDIA OF CLIP ART    - KIDS CAN
  VS> READ   - MAYO CLINIC

Pls add me to your Mailing List.

M. Mulcahy
9300 Hamilton Drive
Fairfax, VA 22031
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 2614
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 07/29/93 12:31p
Subj: busty babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Lee!
  I just recieved my copy of "BUSTY BABES" and I must say BRAVO!
I really like the interface that you have developed. It is setup very
well, and very easy to use as well!
  I looked at most of the gifs and seen my "originals" that I sent you
listed in the directories, I am glad that you were able to use them, and
will be sending you  about 500 more of some "LOCAL TAMPA BAY" girls that
have already agreed with me to let you have the scans for your next
release. Give me about 8 or 10 weeks to get them all orginized. I will
send the scans on a "quic-80" 250 meg tape. Will your tape drive read
Iomega standards? I have had compatibilty problems with Colorado ,
Trakker, and another that I can't recall, But we will give it our best
shot!
  Ok well I just wanted to say hello and thank you very much for the
copy of "BUSTY" she is a dream! It will certianly be a compliment to my
now already great bbs!
 Take care and keep up the good work! I must leave now before my
"Grammar and spelling are torn to shreads again"<G>.

Bubba
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2615
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 07/28/93 11:18a
Subj: Adult cd-roms                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>Hey Canadians!

MS>Starting July 24th, you can get an extra bonus: your
  >copy will be hand-signed by moi, since I'm one of the
  >Canadian models <g>!      (Yes, I go all the way!)

Michellea, I was wondering if you'd go "all the way" for some of American
admirers..........

I would like to know if the same "deal" can be had here in the lower 48.

Sign me: Dreaming in Danvers

;-)

Pat

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From: MATT SMITH                             Number: 2616
  To: WEE YUNG                                 Date: 07/29/93 10:16a
Subj: CD-ROM Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You sent me a letter about a Creatice Labs 16. CD-rom with Sound Blaster 16 bit
and speakers and the 3 CD's for $459.00..Well, I am interested but is the sound
card XA Compatible and does it have a CD-ROM interface? If so to both of those
I'll give you $399.00 for it. Let me know..

             Matt Smith


P.S.--That offer is NOT final...


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2617
  To: CAM LIRONDELLE                           Date: 07/29/93  9:29a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CL> S9>> michael, my drive arrived yesterday.  took about 15 mins to
CL> install
CL> S9>> and it works just fine.  thanks again. runs like a champ under
CL> os/2.
CL>
CL>  MK> I still have a couple left if you know anyone.
CL>
CL> I am interested!  How much?

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00 with caddy.

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer.

205-837-5053

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2618
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 07/29/93  9:30a
Subj: Re: Scsi cdrom drive                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TC> -> 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.
TC>
TC> Michael....  Would you care to work up a trade for one of the
TC> following
TC> drives???  I have several things to trade...  1x9 70ns SIMMS (4megs
TC> total); I have a VERY nice 250 watt UPS that has a NEW battery, Also

Maybe interested in the 250 watt UPS.  Give me a call, so I can get an
ideal of it's durability.

205-837-5053


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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2619
  To: ROBBIE WILKES                            Date: 07/30/93  6:50a
Subj: Libel and the single  1/2               Refer: 6045
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> and Terry Woodward, and must say that I'm a little confused.  From my
-> end, this is what I've perceived to have happened:

1.  This echo IS NOT a forum for dealer/customer disputes.

2.  This echo IS NOT a forum to arbitrate such disputes.

3.  EOT.

tim
moderator
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From: JAMES MCKINNEY                         Number: 2620
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 07/29/93 11:29p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HI, am i understanding you right a Mitsumi  150ms 150kb transfer
for $200.00.

LET ME KNOW !!! Please...


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2621
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  8:21a
Subj: CDROM Specials                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Officers Bookcase       Canadian Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
Chicano Datebase          PC-SIG Games            LaserTax On CD
Phoenix # 3               Jokes&Pranks            Learning Adventure
Business Assistant        World Travler           Sound Sensation
DeathStar Arcade          Colossal CookBook       ClipArt Goliath
Technotools               Our Solar System        Windoware

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2622
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  8:21a
Subj: CDROM Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2623
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  8:21a
Subj: NEW ADULT CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

)))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.

                      PRICE - $25.00

To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2624
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 07/29/93 12:36a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> -> Panasonic 501B $300
> -> Chinon 535-CDS $430

> Ismail, what are the Access and kb/transfer times on these
> two drives?, I may be interested, especially in the Chinon.
Panasonic 501B 380ms
Chinon 535-CDS 280ms (double spin). Both of them are set drives (complete with
software/interface card/docs) TTYL

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2625
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 07/29/93 12:38a
Subj: Re: Fax                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Come on, vendors. This is the 90's. I know margins are tight, but many
> fax machines are cheaper than the CD drives you sell, and a dedicated
> line is a tax writeoff.
Hi Don,
We have HP LaserFax online 24hr a day. 1-800-277-5179 / 1-206-473-1634 will
connect to our fax #. TTYL

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2626
  To: VERNON MELTON                            Date: 07/29/93  1:15a
Subj: PIER 2 CD-ROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

VM>     Just a note to say thanks for the CD.  It's a real nice one, and very
VM>easy to set up with a BBS.
VM>Later,
VM>     Vernon Melton

Glad you are enjoying the Pier 2, and a public congratulations to you for
winning our first CD GIVEAWAY!

Have fun,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2627
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 07/29/93  1:15a
Subj: TRADE ADULT CD'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KP>KP>   I have the Adult CD Volcano, and would like to trade it for another
adu
KP>MS> KP>cd, If interested, Please let me know.
KP>MS>
KP>MS> I'll trade you a Physical Therapy or a Storm 1 for it.  Give me a shout
i
KP>MS> interested.
KP>MS>

KP>  Okay, I will trade you Volcano for Storm 1.  Please send the CD to:
KP>  My phone is [phone]  Once I get your disk, then I will ship this
one
KP>the same day.

Kevin,

Well, you've almost got it down.  You see, it is usually customary for
two traders to "cross-ship" CD's when they deal.  That means you trust
me to ship mine, while I trust you to ship yours on the same day.  Give
me a call, and we can set this up, OK?

BTW, do you work for Free Spirit?  I see you plugging their CD's.

Later,

.\\ike
509-457-2892

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 2628
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/29/93  3:44a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <18 Jul 93  10:21:26>, Michael Konor (1:373/8) writes:

 >I still have a couple left if you know anyone.
I am seriously considering buying two more from ya, one internal, one
external,
what would be the best deal you could give me on those two?

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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 2629
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/29/93  3:54a
Subj: WHILE THEY LAST                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <26 Jul 93  02:14:07>, Boris Osadciw (1:157/46) writes:

 >********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************
 >
 >Learning Adventure
 >Business Assistant
 >Colossal CookBook
 >Technotools
I might be interested in these, please tell me a little about Learning
adventure, business assistant, and Technotools. Or if you are willing to stand
 behind them as being well worth the money just ship them and 4 caddies to me.


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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 2630
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/28/93  7:09p
Subj: Wholesaling & retailing                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          Vince Sorensen wrote
----------------------------------------
>>AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK
---------------------------------------- How much is this one going for?

Lee Christopher Wise
===
 * TLX v3.00 * Computers are OUR business, our ONLY business


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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 2631
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  5:38a
Subj: Sound blaster                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Doesn't anyone know the command to turn on the Soundblaster
to send a sound source directly through it (such as the CD)
I know there is one.....


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From: JOHN BENJAMIN                          Number: 2632
  To: ALL DEALER                               Date: 07/27/93 12:35a
Subj: Wanted!                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To all Dealers in FLORIDA,
        We want your CD-ROM For Sale postings in a brand new Fido style
net called The Sunshine State Network, a.k.a. SUN_NET.
        This is a Florida network ONLY!  If you don't have a SUN_NET
mail HUB in your area and would like to be a HUB we want to know.
        FREQ from me, 1:3609/16 using the magic name SUN for the latest
SUN_NET nodelist, application form and list of conferences.

John Benjamin
 ■ QMPro 1.50 41-2352 ■ All rising to a great place is by a winding stair.


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From: MAHMUT KURSUN                          Number: 2633
  To: SHAWN DOWNEY                             Date: 07/26/93  3:21p
Subj: CDROM                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I tried to send you crashmail, referring to the Digital Dreams
CDROM, but couldnt reach you. Could you please contact me, I want
to buy Digital Dreams CDROM's
Kursun CDROM Versand
Karl-Marx-Ring 148
81737 Munich / GERMANY
tel: ++49-89-6378421
fax: ++49-89-6378421
compuserve: 100116,3315

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From: JOHN ANDERSON                          Number: 2634
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  3:17p
Subj: CD-ROMs For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Used CD-ROMs For Sale:

    Maniac Mansion 2: Day Of The Tentacle - $40
    Loom - $15
    The 7th Guest - $25
    Infocom Treasure Chest - $20

Call [phone] in your interested, or send Netmail to John Anderson
@ 1:396/1

___
* UniQWK v2.0 * This Copy Of UniQWK will never be registered b/c it stinks!



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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 2635
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/28/93  4:18p
Subj: Address                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris, I would like to order some CD ROM disks, and send a
money order instead of using a credit card.  Would you please
indicate the correct address to send the order to?  Also, would
you advise the price of the BB version 1 you have? I would like
to have one, but not sure I can afford it.

Thanks for the info above.



... My CD Rom is slower than your CD Rom!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2636
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/29/93 11:49a
Subj: Re: NEW CD RELEASE - Southern           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Terry Woodward to Blaine Richard <=-
 BR>Includes 300 Megs of the Best GIFs in 24 bit True Color. Installs Quickly
&

 TW> How did you get 24 bit True color in Gif format? Isn't Gif, by
 TW> standard, limited to 256 colors?


Correct you are, mon ami!  All the True Color images I've ever seen
were (huge) TARGA files.

... My other computer is a 486.
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From: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                      Number: 2637
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 07/28/93  9:38a
Subj: Re: TRADE ADULT CD FOR ADULT CD ?       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Is this CD just gifs? If so I'll take it for 25.00 with shipping. How's
that?
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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 2638
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/25/93 11:01p
Subj: who's crazy?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 07-21-93  00:10 Mike Shannon shared these words of wisdom:

 MS> With catalogs from Crazy Mike and Crazy Bob, what more do you need?
 MS> 8)
 MS> .\\ike

Maybe a few sane ones, or more crazys. Anyway, the disks arrived just
fine. Interestingly enough, on "Too Many Typefonts" I found a font that
I myself had ported to the laserjet format and uploaded (somewhere...) a
few years ago. Immortalized in [whatever they make cd's out of]!


... What do you mean you 'formatted' the cat?
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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 2639
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/26/93 12:13a
Subj: Bottom line pricing                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 07-21-93  00:10 Mike Shannon shared these words of wisdom:

 MS> growing customer base.  Because of this, I haven't had a chance to sit
 MS> down and update my 2-column "monster" CD price list with all the new
 MS> titles we keep getting.  Come to think of it, I haven't had a chance to

But how will we know of all the great new stuff available if you don't
tell us?


... Illiterate?  Write for FREE HELP!
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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 2640
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/27/93  3:34a
Subj: Wanted!                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for:

Busty Babes ($20)
Nix Pix 1   ($40)
Storm 1, 2 or 3. ($20)

And willing to pay price indicated plus shipping.

Please leave msg if interested.  Thanks.


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Chicken heads are the chief food of captive alligators.


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2641
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/28/93  2:32p
Subj: Wanted: Storm 2                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm interested in buying Storm 2.  It sells new in this conference for $28, so
I'll pay up to $20 delivered for a used one.  Please reply here or in netmail.
Thanks.

I'm also interested in a used copy of Nightowl 9, but that seems pretty
unlikely.  <grin>

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From: SCOTT BROOKER                          Number: 2642
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93 11:34a
Subj: OS/2 Mitsumi Driver                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* Original Area: Cdrom
* Original To  : All (1:348/501)

Hi, Has anyone had trouble with the Mitsumi OS/2 CDROM driver v1.0 by J.P.
Cossette working with the new version of OS/2 2.1 I have just upgraded from the
beta version and cannot seem to get my system to see the CDROM I get an ICON
for a normal disk drive 'not a cd' and when I try to access it im told that its
not formated.

 Is there a new version out? also does anyone know how to contact J.P.
cossette, I ordered the driver got the disk and the only way to get ahold of
him is by CompuServe. there was no address on any of the docs. and of course I
tossed out the address that I had once read in an echo.

better yet does anyone know of a good Mitsumi Driver for OS/2 that allows you
to access the CDROM from an OS/2 Session not just DOS???

 Thanks, Scott.

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From: TERRY MCDILL                           Number: 2643
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  3:41p
Subj: The 7th Guest and Mitsumi CD-Roms       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi, all!

I just purchased a Mitusmi CD-Rom and was wondering if this drive would
support
the game "The 7th Guest". The other equipment is able to support the game.

Thanks!

Terry

P.S. And if I can play the game, how about a price quote?



... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?"
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From: DAN HOOD                               Number: 2644
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/29/93  1:33p
Subj: SCSI CDROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Micahel
 > 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

 > Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin
 > SCSI,
 >   300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM,
 > Refurb.,
 >   64k buffer.

Is the above ROM compatible with OS/2 v2.1? Are there drivers available for it
to run under OS/2? If so I'll take it.

danie

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 2645
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 07/27/93 10:26p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <23 Jul 93  12:06:48>, MICHAEL SELLS (1:390/5.4) writes:
 >Ryan, I am sorry to say that the 7th Guest game was sold on Monday. I
 >hope that you are not too disappionted. It looks like the lag in Net-Mail
 >kept you from seeing the SOLD post in time. I know that Brian Stark at
 >1:290/8 said that he also had the game and was willing to trade. Maybe
 >you can still work a deal with him. Let me know if you want me to rip up
 >the check or send it back.
Gee, I wish I would have known that you use your net mail address! It was for
a friend, so it would be best it you sent it back. Return the check to Ryan
Denke, 5011 E.18th, Casper, Wy 82609.


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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 2646
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/27/93 10:28p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <24 Jul 93  03:02:00>, Israel Gomberg (1:387/822) writes:
 >I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed it.
 >Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
I just sold all my adult Cd's, but how about $36 shipped, cash money.


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2647
  To: JOHN CARROLL                             Date: 07/29/93  8:15p
Subj: This Weeks CDROM Specialse              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JC> and to stay on topic....can you suggest a good CD
 JC> of Windows Shareware, set up for RA bbs software?
 JC> Something current?   Thanks!

The Windows 1993 has dirs in pcboard type format.  It is pretty good, but not
really RA ready.  I haven't looked at the CD Winbox...it may be closer to what
your looking for...anybody know if it is RA ready?  I have both in stock at an
excellent price.....800-547-7817 to order.

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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 2648
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  9:12p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy Mike,

I've got a couple of questions for you.  I'm running a Mitsumi CDRom
on my BBS and I've run into a problem.  I've got the 3 CD set of
Shareware Bonanza and they have been doing fine.  But I picked up
the Shareware Studio Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 and my CD won't read them
except on a hit or miss basis.  Now I'm kind of scared to buy any more
CDs until I know what's going on. Now for the questions:

1.  If it is my CDRom, what is the difference between the CDs that my
    reader will read some but not others?

2.  Do you have any suggestions for CDs that my reader will read, such as
    the Night Owl series, etc.?

I would like to pick up a few more CDs to switch out on a regular basis.
I'd like a good mix of up-to-date shareware, g-rated .gif files, utilities,
etc.  Would appreciate any insight you can spare.

                                     Ron


... Have you seen Quasimodo? I had a hunch he was back.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: JASON TAYNOR                           Number: 2649
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  3:02p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-ROM DISCOUNTS              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Could you tell me more about the "Adult Reference Library"?

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 2650
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93 11:03p
Subj: Mitsumi under OS/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can someone tell me what it takes to install a Mitsumi LU005 under OS2? Is it
even possible? What is needed?

CJK

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From: MIKE MAST                              Number: 2651
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 07/29/93  8:46p
Subj: CD File Descriptions                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to David Balnites, Terry Blount said:

 >  I wrote one the other day to do that for someone.  I'll

Terry, thanks for writing that for me!  There are a couple small things that
maybe you could modify...?

The program truncates filenames to 8.2 instead of 8.3 characters.
This only happens when the first part of the filename is the maximum of 8
charaters.  If the name is 7 or less, it'll write the full 3 character
extentsion.

Example:

1234567.abc  remain as is.
but
12345678.abc  will become  12345678.ab

While I'm giving you my wish list <G>, could you add an option to truncate the
finished line to a user definable number of characters?  Something like:

Mike dir10 /115

It'd be nice to be able to truncate the lines to whatever length a certain
program requires.

Thanks again!

Regards,
Mike
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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 2652
  To: TERRY WOODWARD                           Date: 07/30/93  1:07a
Subj: Re: NEW CD RELEASE - Southern           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Blaine Richard <07-27-93 02:28> Terry Woodward wrote:

>   BR>Includes 300 Megs of the Best GIFs in 24 bit True Color. Installs
>
>   How did you get 24 bit True color in Gif format? Isn't Gif, by standard
>   limited to 256 colors?

Terry is says "Includes 300 Megs of the Best GIFs in 24 bit True Color"
Perhaps it should be phrased  "Also includes 300 Megs of the Best GIF images
in 24 bit True Color TIFF format" I hope this clear it up for you and all that
it was unclear to.
                        Blaine R. Richard III

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From: TONY MATA                              Number: 2653
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 07/30/93  2:03a
Subj: Audio Cables                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Try calling TTS systems at 800-887-4968.
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From: MATT BEDTELYON                         Number: 2654
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/26/93  3:14p
Subj: Used CD-Roms                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you are a SysOp of a BBS, have we got a deal for
you.  We have again purchased another shipment of
good condition Hitachi CDR-1503S external CD-ROM
drives. These units are PERFECT for BBS operations
and have a proven track record for years with may
of us. Price listed below are plus shipping.
Quanities are limited, so order yours today!
These units can be daisy chained to use up to four
drives on one controller. When ordering, remember
that each drive needs one (1) cable. MasterCard and
Visa are excepted!
Bare CDR-1503S external CD-ROM drive..........$126.00 USED
Interface cards................................$71.00 NEW
Cables.........................................$15.00 NEW
Drive carry a 30 day warranty, for repair or replacement
by us. Please contact us for more information, or orders...
We accept VISA, Mastercard, Carte Blanche and Diners Club too!
Matt Bedtelyon
MEG*A*BITE BBS
P.O. Box 21
Essexville, MI  48732-0021
Fido 1:239/675
517-892-5079  14.4


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 2655
  To: JOHN ROBINSON                            Date: 07/28/93  7:06p
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

APPARENTLY THERE ARE MORE THAN DAVE REEDS THAN JUST I. THE RESPONSE DATE WAS
JUST TWO DAYS AGO AND I HAVE NOT BEEN ON THIS BBS SINCE MAY WHEN I CALLED TO
GET MY LOD REGISTRATION. MANY REGRETS TO WHOEVER THIS MESSAGE WAS ACTUALLY
INTENDED FOR... I KNOW NOT WHO HAS BEEN ON THIS BBS USING MY NAME AND PASSWORD,
PERHAPS I SHOULD CHANGE MY INFO.....

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From: DAVID M. WHITE                         Number: 2656
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  2:06p
Subj: BUY 3 GET POWERPAK FREE!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you publish a catalog, I would be interested in getting a copy.  You can
send to to David M. White, 452 N. Bull Run Dr., Tucson, Az 85748.



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From: DAVID M. WHITE                         Number: 2657
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  2:07p
Subj: BUY 3 GET POWERPAK FREE!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

An addendum to previous message re: catalog.  I am NOT interested in adult
stuff.



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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2658
  To: ROBBIE WILKES                            Date: 07/29/93 11:30a
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IG>I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed
RW>it.
IG>Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
IG>                   -TWITCH the Vorpal Bunny-

RW>Hey Israel,

RW>Will trade the Volcanoe adult CD for it.  Let me know if you're
RW>interested.

Sorry, But I have aleady traded it.

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2659
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/29/93  7:26p
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I think I'll wait until you can tell me a bit more about them. Thanks

Bob, please excuse my "short memory", but my mail reader recently went in for
major surgery........... Thankfully, it's pulled through, and it looks as
though it will survive, however all of it's memories are simply that,
memories...

If you would be so king as to refresh it's little mind as to the topic of the
discussion, I'd more than happy to supply you with the information you've
requested.

;-)

Regards,

Pat

===
 * RM 1.0 B0391 * Please see our complete list in the FOR SALE conferences.


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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 2660
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  9:01p
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROM for Sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its OS/2 CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
300 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:[phone], EMail:[e-mail]
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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2661
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  6:59a
Subj: SCSI Cdrom Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $220.00 with caddy.

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurb.,
  64k buffer. Warranty.

205-837-5053




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From: ZACHARY HAMM                           Number: 2662
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 07/29/93  4:15p
Subj: DRIVES                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jim could you please send me a catalog?  I'm a sysop and reseller in NC
and have many CD-ROM customers.


Zack Hamm
5317 baywood Forest Drive
Knightdale, NC 27545-8916


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From: STEPHEN BURT                           Number: 2663
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  2:01a
Subj: SHAREWARE                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am trying to find a good shareware CD that has a lot of QUALITY games on it.
I have the Software Vault I and II.  I bought them both for 35 dollars.  That's
a lot cheaper than I've seen them elsewhere.  Not too bad for a wide selection,
and as I already said 35 wasn't bad for the pair; however, I am looking for a
good game CD.  One with a lot of apogee, etc...  I also would like to find one
that also has a lot of hints for games.  I am still trying to get through
Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade(help anyone?)
Thanks,
Stephen Burt


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From: NANCY PORTER                           Number: 2664
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 07/29/93 10:07a
Subj: MITSUMI 350ms CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JP> Does anyone know if the proprietary controller that comes with the
JP> mitsumi 16 bit 350ms access drive will support a second drive?
JP>
JP> I'd like to add a second drive but dont have a free card slot for
JP> another controller <grin> or frankly the IRQ to space.

Nope, it sure won't.  You can put in 2 drives, but they each must
have their own controller card.
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2665
  To: TED KIDD                                 Date: 07/30/93  4:45p
Subj: CDRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> EB> Some CDRoms for sale:
>>
>> EB> Source -- Gobs of C code                 $20.00   (MAR 92)
>>
>> Is this disc BBS compatible?  If so, I might just order it...

    It is.  It has files that support most of the major types of BBS's.
I put it up on my board with ease.

Eric


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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 2666
  To: BABE-AHOLICS                             Date: 07/29/93  4:46p
Subj: THE RECOMMENDED ADULT CD                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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  e       **    **  **  **  **      **    **  **
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          **    **  **  **     **   **      **
          *******    ****   *****   **      **

Hey Canadians!

We've got BUSTY BABES... The best adult disc, period.
Features thousands of sizzling pictures of the bustiest
babes in North America including (yes!) Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF (it rocks!), and it's BBS Ready.

Only if you order from us can can get this special bonus:
your copy will be hand-signed by one of the Canadian models!

Get BUSTY BABES, release 3.0 for a special price of $40
that includes all taxes throughout the month of August.
PLUS there's no delay or worry about an unscheduled stop
at customs, because they're shipped direct to you from
within Canada!

Only from CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA.

6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk., S4N 4G7
306-789-4654 Voice    306-789-8690 Fax
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From: ROBERT MCELWEE                         Number: 2667
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  8:14p
Subj: CD's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



DC Computing

This is July's CD price list for DC Computing
==========================================================================


101 Positions 1&2 (adult) (each)                            $75.00ea.
Adult Palate (adult)                                        $35.00
Adult Referance Library  (adult)                            $23.00
After Dark Trilogy (adult)                                  $40.00
Amateur Models (adult)                                      $30.00
Animal's MPC or DOS                                         $26.00
Arthur's Teacher Trouble                                    $27.00
Barney Bear Goes to School                                  $24.00
Barney Bear goes to Space                                   $24.00
Best of Vivid                                               $
Bibles & Religion                                           $19.00
Business Master                                             $21.00
Busty Babes 3.0 Revised (adult)                             $30.00
CD Winbox                                                   $28.00
Clip Art Goliath                                            $19.00
Club Expose' (adult)                                        $43.00
Colormagic                                                  $27.00
Colossal Cookbook                                           $19.00
Complete Bookshop                                           $19.00
Dictionaries & Languages                                    $19.00
Digital Dancing Interactive Movie (adult)                   $45.00
Digital Dreams (adult)                                      $28.00
Dirty Talk Interactive Movie (adult)                        $48.00
Doors of Passion Interactive Movie (adult)                  $48.00
Ecstacy (adult)                                             $30.00
Education Master                                            $21.00
Encyclopedia of Clip Art                                    $25.00
Encyclopedia of Sound                                       $19.00
Fonts #1                                                    $26.00
Gamemaster                                                  $21.00
Games 1993                                                  $24.00
Girls of Vivid Stills (adult)                               $70.00
Grolier's Encyclopedia DOS 5.0                              $49.00
Grolier's Encyclopedia Windows Ver.                         $49.00
Ham Radio 3.0                                               $19.00
Hidden Obsessions Movie (adult)                             $46.00
Hot Pix #2,3,4,5 (adult) (each)                             $29.00ea.
House of Dreams Movie (adult)                               $46.00
House of Games                                              $26.00
Kama Sutra (adult)                                          $
Mantis                                                      $26.00
Mario is Missing w/ World Atlas                             $27.00
Mayo Clinic                                                 $33.00
Mixed Up Mother Goose                                       $25.00
Monster Disc (2 discs)                                      $37.00
Monster Media #1                                            $35.00
My First Time (adult)                                       $50.00
National Parks                                              $27.00
Night Owl 8                                                 $29.00
Nightwatch Inteactive Movie (adult)                         $56.00
Our Solar System                                            $19.00
P.C. SIG Ver #12                                            $24.00
Photo CD (Kodak or Tempra)                                  $30.00
Photo Gallery (adult)                                       $35.00
Pinacotheca - Multimedia                                    $26.00
Precision Mapping                                           $80.00
Prophone (7 discs 1993)                                     $130.00
Prophone Business Disk                                      $36.00
Publishers Paradise                                         $31.00
Publisher's Dream Disk                                      $36.00
Return to the Moon                                          $36.00
Sci-Fi                                                      $26.00
Seymore Butts Interactive Movie (adult)                     $48.00
Seedy Rom Movie Disk (adult)                                $40.00
Shareware Extravaganza (4 discs)                            $45.00
Shareware Studio #2                                         $23.00
Sherlock Holmes Detective                                   $27.00
Smutware (adult)                                            $28.00
Southern Beauties (adult)                                   $37.00
Software Vault #2                                           $25.00
Sound Sensations                                            $19.00
Space Quest 4/ Kings Quest (each)                           $25.00ea.
Storm 2/3 (adult) (each)                                    $27.00ea.
Technotools                                                 $19.00
Time Table of Science                                       $25.00
Too Many Typefonts                                          $19.00
Toolworks Referance Library                                 $27.00
U.S. History                                                $32.00
U.S./ World Atlas                                           $28.00
Windows Master                                              $23.00
Windows 1993                                                $27.00
Windoware                                                   $19.00
Women of Venus                                              $28.00
Xtreme (adult)                                              $31.00

Caddies                                                     $6.75ea.


============================================================================
 NEW NEW NEW NEW NEW *  MAC Titles * NEW NEW NEW NEW NEW


Adult Palate (adult)                                        $36.00
Color Magic                                                 $27.00
Digital Dancing Interactive Movie (adult)                   $63.00
Dream Machine Interactive Movie (adult)                     $63.00
Girls of Vivid (adult)                                      $65.00
Hidden Obsessions Movie (adult)                             $50.00
House of Dreams Movie (adult)                               $39.00
Photo Gallery (adult)                                       $39.00
Night Trips Movie (adult)                                   $49.00
Nightwatch Interactive Movie (adult)                        $47.00
Secrets Movie (adult)                                       $47.00
Seymore Butts Interactive Movie (adult)                     $53.00
Women of Venus                                              $31.00


============================================================================

All prices and availability are subject to
change without notice.  CODs only.
BBS # 1-803-873-5797   DAZED AND CONFUSED BBS I
BBS # 1-803-851-7701   DAZED AND CONFUSED BBS III
Fido # 1:372/57
For a descriptive listing of all CD's, download CDSALES.TXT
or it can be FREQ'd from the above BBS numbers or the Fido number.
Magic word for Freqing is "CDSALES".

DC Computing
P.O. Box 1026
Ladson, S.C.
29456










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From: ROBERT MCELWEE                         Number: 2668
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  8:14p
Subj: CD's for sale                           Refer: NONE
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From: ROBERT MCELWEE                         Number: 2669
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  8:17p
Subj: Busty Babes for $25 + shipping          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


    DC Computing is now offering Busty Babes for $25 plus shipping and
handling...Anyone interested, please call Dazed and Confused BBS at
803-873-5797...You can also freq the lateset list of available cds from
1:372/57, magic word is CDSALES...This offer for Busty Babes is for this week
only...Get it while you can

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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 2670
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  4:56p
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Well, I ordered it from someone at 25.00 but that was more than a week ago,
I prepay with a credit card.. I really don't know what's going on...!!
Thanks anyways....

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From: DREW IANNUZZI                          Number: 2671
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  1:21p
Subj: Peer2                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In need of PEER 2 Cd-ROM Disk.


  Reply EMAIL with prices... Thanx.

                                ...Drew
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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 2672
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 07/29/93  5:28p
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

----------------------------------------
DD> FAXMODEMS DON'T WORK. AT LEAST NOT WHEN RECEIVING A FAX.

   You must have the wrong type, because mine works fine.  I have recieved many
things and have sent more than you can shake a stick at!


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From: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                      Number: 2673
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93  5:38p
Subj: ADULT CD'S                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for anyone who is willing to sell their adult CD's--such as
Sexcapades The Movie, Hot Pix...or anything similar.  I prefer movies over
gifs.

If you have any of these CD's, any advice as to which one's are worth
purchasing would be appreciated--especially any opinions that you have about
sexcapades the movie.


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2674
  To: LEN BUSSEY                               Date: 07/22/93 11:28p
Subj: Cd Swap                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LB>I have the following CD's I'd like to swap for shareware CDs and/or
LB>adult CD's.

LB>Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
LB>The Secret of Monkey Island
LB>Loom

LB>Call me at 615-659-9216 voice or
LB>           615-659-6470 FIDO node 3622/10 or 2010 BBS

LB>--- RBBSMAIL 17.1C
LB> * Origin: 2010 BBS - Petersburg TN [phone] (RBBS-PC 1:3622/10.0)
I'll trade ya either Nautilus NET CD or Starvector 208
                Let me know what else you are looking for.  Does Secret
                of Monkey Island require a fast Cd rom? Does it have
                Soundblaster sound!
                                Sam Figueroa


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2675
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/22/93 11:33p
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC>CD Winbox.....28.50 * Software Vault 2....23.95 * Global Explorer..93.50
DC>Games 1993....24.50 * Shareware Studio 2..23.95 * Bible Library....28.95
DC>Windows 1993..27.50 * Up All Night........19.95 * NG/SD Mammals....26.50
DC>Mayo Clinic...28.50 * Aminet (Amiga)......16.95 * Busty Babes......29.95
DC>Nightowl v9...28.95 * Reference Library...26.95 * Ecstasy..........29.95
DC>Nightowl v8...26.95 * Readers Library.....28.95 * Nix Pix 2/3/4/5..29.95
DC>Pier 1........27.95 * Clip Art Galore..28.95  We sell Hundreds of Titles
DC>All Chestnut Titles (15 CDS)...13.50 * Many Walnut Creek Titles...16.95
DC>PCJ - Orders - 800-547-7817 *-* Orders\Inquiry - 615-339-0235 (24 Hrs)
DC>Fax [phone] *-* BBS 615-478-2890 *-* No surcharge for credit cards

DC>--- Maximus 2.01wb
DC> * Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119)
Doug,
        What is on the "Up All Night" cd, is it adult or what?
                                Thanks,
                                        Sam Figueroa


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2676
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/28/93 12:03a
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IG>I have the following CD-ROM's I would be willing to trade, especialy for
IG>adult CD's.

IG>1.Loom
IG>2.The Secret of Monkey Island
IG>3.Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
IG>4.A Line in the Sand

IG>Israel M. Gomberg
IG>330 Kitty Hawk Rd. #2806
IG>Universal City, TX 78148
IG>[phone]


IG>... I was *this* close to seeing elvis. But my shovel broke.
IG>___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

IG>--- TMail v1.31.5
IG> * Origin: Last Chance TBBS *HST v32b* [phone] San Antonio,Tx
IG>(1:387/822)
What would you take for either or both cd's especially Monkey Island???
I have a Nautilus CD I would trade for it, it has multimedia, and other
Windows stuff on it!  Do the cd's have manuals?
                        Sam Figueroa
                        Sam's Software
                        [phone]


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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 2677
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/30/93  9:15p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jackie Rogers to J.p. Ladner <=-

 JR> The Mitsumi is a low-cost drive, and can be found brand-new
 JR> for as low as $175
 JR> if you shop around.  The going rate appears to be about $190.  I
 JR> personally  don't recommend the drive, as whenever there's a disc
 JR> returned to me as  defective, it works fine in our office.  I call the
 JR> customer to inquire about  the type of drive they're using, and they
 JR> ALWAYS say, "Mitsumi."  Seems the  Mitsumi has a problem reading many
 JR> of the discs out there on the market.  HOWEVER, industry sources have
 JR> indicated that Mitsumi has  found a problem with
 JR> their controller card, and have corrected it.

I picked up on a similar thread the other day, and since I'm having a
problem reading the Shareware Studio Vols 1&2 I called the dealer where
I got my Mitsumi.  He informed me that this is BS(I think he is waffling).

So now I'm real confused.

Where and how do I get more info?  Is Mitsumi going to give
an upgrade to owners of their drives?  My unit is still under warranty, so
I would think that Mitsumi would owe me a correction.

                                           Ron


... RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory
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From: CARLOS AVELLANET                       Number: 2678
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  9:23p
Subj: Re: BUY 3 GET POWERPAK FREE!            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> Get the three newest and hottest adult CD's on the market for the
 MS> super low price of only $89, and receive a PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware
 MS> CD absolutely free!  This offer is for a limited time only, so hurry!

     Which is this PPG 3.0?  I have the fall 1992 edition, Is the 3.0
     newer than that?

Carlos.

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From: KEVIN WAKEFIELD                        Number: 2679
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/12/93  4:20p
Subj: New adult cd                            Refer: NONE
Read: 08/01/93  7:36a                       Private: No

On 07-10-93 Tim Helton said to Bob Jackson:

TH>->  WH> > KW>            ***   WILD WOMEN Volume 1    ***
TH>-> You've got the wrong guy! This disc is being published out of
TH>-> Australia. I sent the note to them asking about street prices.  So
TH>-> far, I haven't heard back.
TH>
TH>Actually, this disc is coming out of Atlanta... Kevin Wakefield is the
TH>publisher and I have the worldwide exclusive distribution rights to
TH>tim


   Didn't you know that we now have offices in Sydney and Melbourne? <g>

   Good'ay mate.....


           <<<  kevin  >>>


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From: JOHNG FISHER                           Number: 2680
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/15/93  6:00p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>I'm interested in this drive but I'm leary of a 150ms drive and
JL>software for only $200 ???

works even on 7th guest--has stereo output to headphone jack in front.  it's
entirely worth it....

===
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 2681
  To: MIKE MAST                                Date: 07/31/93  9:33p
Subj: CD File Descriptions                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MM> Terry, thanks for writing that for me!  There are a
 MM> couple small things that maybe you could modify...?
 MM>
 MM> The program truncates filenames to 8.2 instead of 8.3 characters.
 MM> This only happens when the first part of the filename
 MM> is the maximum of 8 charaters.  If the name is 7 or
 MM> less, it'll write the full 3 character extentsion.

Sorry... I noticed that yesterday and fixed it.    You can freq the fixed
version from me at 3625/441  under the magic name "Maxcdset"


 MM> While I'm giving you my wish list <G>, could you add
 MM> an option to truncate the finished line to a user
 MM> definable number of characters?  Something like:

 I have found out that if the line exceeds about 240 chars then
 Maximus will show the rest of the line on a second line with
 "Offline" written before that part of the description.  I am
 currently setting it to read the first 5 lines of the extended
 description.  That seems to work out best with the least amount
 of work.


 MM> It'd be nice to be able to truncate the lines to
 MM> whatever length a certain program requires.


I can whip up a utility... In fact I already have one somewhere that will read
EVERY file in a directory and whack off anything past a certain column.  If the
current version you freq does not satisfy then let me know...

BTW  I'll have more cases in a couple days... I'll send you 2 unless you let me
know you don't want them.


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2682
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/30/93  2:48p
Subj: Re: Night Owls 9                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 26 Jul 93  23:28:00, I heard Jim Lambert shout to J.P. Ladner:

JL> JL>Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??  If so
JL>   >please tell me the soonest you could send it to me in VA...I had ordered
JL>   >one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't arrived so I called and
JL>   >cancled the damn thing...I need it as fast as possible...


     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!



               Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney!
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2683
  To: JOHN CARROLL                             Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: This Weeks CDROM Specials               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JC>and to stay on topic....can you suggest a good CD of Windows Shareware, set
u
JC>for RA bbs software? Something current?   Thanks!

If you want the BEST Windows shareware CD available, try CD Winbox.  Just
released, with a full 650mb of mostly '93 files.  In stock at $27 if you
are interested.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2684
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DD>On several occasions I have tried sending a fax to a vendor, only to get a
DD>series of unrecognizable handshaking tones. I then usually call voice, and
am
DD>told "Try again, once I reconfigure the faxmodem" or "Try again, but press
yo
DD>SEND button before my faxmodem answers", or "I only receive faxes from 8am
to
DD>6pm", or "Oh, I don't accept faxes, I use the faxmodem to only send catalogs
DD>out", or "It's for my suppliers' use only".

Then you haven't called Starvector!  We use a good ol' iron horse Murata
desktop model.  She's standing by 24 hours a day, waiting for your call!
Give us a try @ 509-457-2966 any time.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2685
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: CD'S ON SALE!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

___________________________________________________________________________

                   STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!
___________________________________________________________________________

      - These are special prices, and are for a limited time only.
      - Sale limited to stock on hand, so hurry!

                              GENERAL TITLES
                              --------------
Bibles & Religion...$10   Colossal Cookbook...$10   Our Solar System....$10
Shareware Overload..$10   Windows 93..........$21   SoundWAV............$24
Deathstar Arcade....$10   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15   House of Games......$20
Ham Radio 3.0.......$10   Sound Sensations....$10   Windoware...........$10
Complete Bookshop...$10   Technotools.........$10   Too Many Typefonts..$10
Compton's Interact..$95   Clipart Goliath.....$10   Dictionaries/Lang...$10

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2686
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 300+
CD-ROM titles that we stock, please feel free to call our new BBS at
509-457-0206.  The system is using a U.S.R. Sportster V.32bis, so you
should have no problem logging on at any speed between 300bps and
14,400bps.

>>>>    All callers may download our catalog on the first call!    <<<<

Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main menu and
download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest prices, newest titles,
and CD descriptions.

While online, you may want to download one or more of the CD-ROM file
listings that are available.

The Starvector BBS is online, and waiting to serve you!  Look for
continuous updates and improvements in the near future, with more CD
file listings, new online doors, and more!

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2687
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/30/93  9:09a
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there,  do you have Space Quest 4/Kings Quest for abouut 35.00?

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2688
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/30/93  9:21a
Subj: THE MONSTER IS BACK!  2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there,

    You advertised:
SPACE QUEST 4 = 25.00
KINGS QUEST 5 = 25.00

It says at top that you can beet any Advertised Price...  I found a deal that
lets these two games come together for about $35...  Can you beat that... Here
I'll give you the guys name and Number....

He is:
Doug Carpenter and his BBS number is (615)-479-1047...

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2689
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/30/93  9:26a
Subj: Space Quest 4/Kings Quest CD Pkg.       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there Doug,
    I would like to know how you would like to be paid if Mike Shannon can not
beat your prices for Space quest 4/Kings Quest...  So please tell me if you
would like a money order and the totall cost CANADIAN would be..  (APROXX)...


Well get back to you in a few days.

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From: DON HANCOCK                            Number: 2690
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/25/93  7:25a
Subj: Red Hot Cd'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

BO> ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec

    Hi Boris. I'm looking for virtually any programming CD's and this looks
    like about the most I'd pay. However, I don't know ANY of the available
    CD's. I got Source CD-ROM Mar'92 with my CD, but it stinks. I'm
    particularly interested in C, C++, Clipper and dBASE files. My
    father-in-law is interested in Pascal. What kind of files (and their
    numbers) are on this and other disks? Looking to add 3 or 4 more to my
    collection. Thanx for any info....

 * SLMR 2.1a * If it jams, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing a

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2691
  To: ELLEN COTTON                             Date: 07/30/93  8:03p
Subj: MO rcvd/Will ship Monday!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ellen-- Received your money order today for the Adobe Type Manager. Will put
it in the mail to you first thing on Monday. Please drop me a note when it
arrives so I can clear my saved messages on this item. Thanx!

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 2692
  To: JOSEPH THOMAS                            Date: 07/30/93  8:06p
Subj: Encyclo_CD gone                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Just a follow-up note to let you know that the person who made an offer on the
Encyclopedia CD did get back with me and still wants it, so I'm afraid it's
gone if he sends the $$. Wanted to let you know so you weren't waiting on me
to look elsewhere. Thanks anyway.

- Heather
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2693
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93  1:59a
Subj: MIX or MATCH                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Canadian Shareware      Ultimate Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
PC-SIG Games              LaserTax On CD          Phoenix # 3
Jokes&Pranks              Learning Adventure      Business Assistant
World Travler             Sound Sensation         DeathStar Arcade
Colossal CookBook         ClipArt Goliath         Technotools
Our Solar System          Bible & Religion

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress....... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2694
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93  1:59a
Subj: CD SYSTEMS                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2695
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93  1:59a
Subj: BUSTY BABE III                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

)))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.

                      PRICE - $25.00

To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 2696
  To: KAREL VITAMVAS                           Date: 07/29/93 10:58a
Subj: MAP CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KV>CS> I heard there is a CD that has every street in the US on it. IF

KV>I think there are several different titles available.  I have PRECISION MAPP
KV>U.S.A. VERSION 1993.   It contains 2 CDROMs For the maps and 1 CD ROM with t
KV>AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONE BOOK as a bonus.  It retails in Canada for $139.95 C

KV> * Origin: Cheers BBS: -=> Cambridge, Ontario <=- (1:221/206.0)


Karel, could you do me a favor. Could you look at the Precision Map disc
or docs and give me whatever information there is on the publisher's
name/address/telephone or fax numbers?

I've asked one of the distributors here for the info but he's ignored
several messages -- perhaps he thinks I wish to become a competitor. Not
so, I'm a computer journalist who lives in that smoggy city to the south
of you, Hamilton. I'd appreciate any assistance you can give me. Cheers!

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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 2697
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  3:49p
Subj: NEW Corel ArtShow 3 CD & Book           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Latest Corel ArtShow 3

     CD with beautifully printed coffee table book

          ArtShow 3 Program (does not need CorelDraw to run) is run from
          Windows and allows searching  & viewing of all 3000 images
          accompanied by on-line MIDI music

          3000 images in CorelDRAW .CDR format (editable in CorelDraw)

          Corel CD-Audio Program- allows you to play your MUSIC CDs in
          your CD-ROM drive.

          Corel ARTVIEW Screen Saver for Windows 3.1

          >> Still Sealed-- BRAND NEW <<

          $25 + UPS

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 2698
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/30/93  6:00p
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hi, michael.  the drives rod and i ordered arrived just fine yesterday, but you
sent me an external terminator and i needed an internal one.  that drive i got
from you is going inside my computer (remember the internal cable you made for
me?)  anyway, there is not a terminator to be found anywhere in fresno or by
mail order from anyone i could contact thru computer shopper.

the terminator you sent wound up on rod's drive, so it wasnt a total waste -
he's up and running and happy as a clam.

\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: LARISSA KOHLER                         Number: 2699
  To: CRAIG CURRY                              Date: 07/29/93  7:54p
Subj: Re: Walnut Creek Games CDROM            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

**** CRAIG CURRY just happened to say to LARISSA KOHLER ****

CC> They've been putting off my order too. I am looking forward to
CC> the CD
CC> "if" it ever ships. Reminds me of some hardware venders I know...
CC> I guesse I will keep my order standing, but I'm wondering if I
CC> shouldn't
CC> get another CD in the mean time.

I wouldn't...it looks like as soon as it comes off this new publisher, it'll be
out....which should be soon.  :)  Have you tried either their windows cdrom or
their dos cdrom?  I've got both and they're excellent!
     Larissa

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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 2700
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/31/93  8:23a
Subj: Encyclo_CD gone                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks, I will search the world for a copy until I find one.
I see a Name Boris O. is selling CDS. Will try him.


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 2701
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/31/93 12:40a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> DC> MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <
->
-> DC>Hogwash.
->
-> Hogwash?  Boy, there's a term I haven't heard in a while.  Like I sai
-> Doug, you're certainly welcome to "call my bluff" any time you see fi
-> If it IS "hogwash", then you should have no trouble proving it.  Go a
-> and advertise them for less than $10, and let's see what happens!  8)
->
-> .\\ike
->
-> ---
->  * SLMR 2.1a * I am Clinton of Borg: resistance is taxable!
->
-> --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
->  * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:
->
 YO mike

Do you have the adult cd featuring teri weigel?


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 2702
  To: LOYD CRAFT                               Date: 07/31/93 12:52a
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->                  ****  Four-Star Enterprises  ****
->                        Custom CDROM Service
->
->   Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
->   produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
->   overnight!
->
->    o Complete confidentiality assured.  Your data will NOT be pilfere
->    o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media.
->    o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
->    o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
->    o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
->    o Great for:  BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
->                  Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
->    o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
->    o Free UPS Blue label shipping to the Continental U.S.
->    o COMING SOON!  Compact Disk AUDIO Production!  COMING SOON!
->
-> Pricing for Custom CD production:
->
-> o 527 Meg:  o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST
->             o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
->             o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the
->
-> o 650 Meg:  o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST
->             o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
->             o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the
->
-> o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.
->
->    Data formats Supported:               Software Supported:
->  ---------------------------           ----------------------- o 60MB
-> DC600/6XXX Streaming Tape.  o Sytos Plus o Mountain Filesafe
->                                    o Everex Tape
->
-> o QIC 40/80  (Colorado Jumbo 250)  o PCTools o Colorado Software
->
-> o Floppy (At additional cost)      o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools
->
-> o Hard Disk
->
-> ** 4mm DAT, and 125/250MB 5.25" Streaming tape will be available SOON
->
-> Terms:
->
->   Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
->   checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are
->   not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.
->
-> *** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
->  For the months of July and August, all orders qualify
->  for a 10% discount from our CURRENT pricing.  Offer
->  ends August 31, 1993.
-> *** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
->
-> Notice:
->
-> Four Star Enterprises will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite",
-> pirated software collections on CDROM.  Such activity is morally WRON
-> illegal.  If this is your intention, please do not waste my time or y
->
-> For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
-> 1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.
->
-> Loyd Craft
-> Four Star Enterprises
-> 517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM - 6:00PM Monday - Saturday) 517-865-6066
-> Support BBS) 1:239/900.0 (Fidonet)
->
-> ===
->  * OLX 2.1 * Ea$yTerm$:100% down;pay nothing for the rest of your lif
->
->
-> --- GEcho 1.00+
->  * Origin: Four Star DayDreams - St. Charles, MI [phone] (1:239
->
 Give me a call at (305)7822631 when you are accepting 5.25 scsi tapes

That's what my favorite .gifs are backed up on 400 megs

Vito


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From: LARRY CHARPIAT                         Number: 2703
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/30/93  1:57a
Subj: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can the Pioneer six disk changers access the six different CD ROM disk
through a BBS menu with a software switch or command?


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2704
  To: DAN HOOD                                 Date: 07/31/93 11:32a
Subj: Re: SCSI CDROM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DH>  > 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.
DH>
DH>  > Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin
DH>  > SCSI,
DH>  >   300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM,
DH>  > Refurb.,
DH>  >   64k buffer.
DH>
DH> Is the above ROM compatible with OS/2 v2.1? Are there drivers
DH> available for it to run under OS/2? If so I'll take it.

I've sold a couple of OS/2 users and haven't heard anything about it not
working.  The drivers came with your OS/2 and your particular SCSI
controller.


*FSED91j*
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2705
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/31/93  7:30a
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You had posted a list of adult titles for sale and I'd asked for more
information. You supplied a little more, but not enough for me to make a
purchase decision. Oddly enough, Goosebump Graphics posted a similar list
shortly thereafter with somewhat more inclusive descriptions. Bottom  line:
I'll probably wait and work through the titles I'm interested in  with Mike
Shannon one or two at a time over then next several weeks.
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2706
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/31/93  8:49a
Subj: cd's shipping to canada??               Refer: NONE
Read: 08/01/93  7:40a                       Private: No

 TH> country.  Me thinks that it's not ANY government's responsibilit
 TH> force-feed morality, thru censorship, on its citizens.  But then


How do you feel about FidoNet moderators?  Apparently the CD-ROM
Information echo will no longer allow even mention of the subject of
adult CDs. Do you plan a similar change for this echo?
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 2707
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  9:09p
Subj: Netware PD/ShrWare CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its Netware CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
801 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:[phone], EMail:[e-mail]
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2708
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/01/93  9:02a
Subj: cd's shipping to canada??               Refer: 6151
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->  TH> country.  Me thinks that it's not ANY government's responsibilit
->  TH> force-feed morality, thru censorship, on its citizens.  But then
->
->
-> How do you feel about FidoNet moderators?  Apparently the CD-ROM

A Moderator has full say-so regarding conference policy.  As such,
there's nothing wrong with implementing a "rule" like this... So as far
as FidoNet is concerned, everything is cool.

The fundamental question is:  Are FidoNet moderators legally responsible
for the mail that is posted in the echos?  That's a good question.  If
the moderator owned copyright to the echo, I would say "yes"... If not,
I would say "no".  In its current state, a moderator "might" be
responsible.

That brings us to another question:  Do moderators own copyright?  Who
knows?  The issue of ownership of an individual echo is not defined in
FidoNet policy, nor has there been a precedent setting case.

OK, who owns copyright to the echos?  Tom Jennings owns copyright to the
nodelist (good for him), but not the echos... George Peace?  He's the
king of the hill in the network, but he doesn't own the echos (a
moderator has the authority to cut GP's feed)... Are the echos public
domain?  They can't be because there is no one of sufficient authority
to declare them as such... So, who owns copyright: "dunno".

The punch line is "yes" - someone is legally responsible for the mail
that flows thru this echo, but that "someone" is unknown.

-> adult CDs. Do you plan a similar change for this echo?

Right now, no.  I see no fundamental legal differences between what
occurs here & what occurs in the back of PC Magazine... Obviously I
won't allow specific, nontechnical, discussion of these discs in this
echo - that goes without saying.  I guess what I'm trying to say is, "if
it's good enough for PC Mag, it's good enough for me"...

tim
moderator
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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 2709
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/29/93  8:50a
Subj: Re: Adult Titles                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello There Doug!

In a message to John Robinson <07/27/93> Doug Carpenter wrote:

DC>  JR> Not a bad idea.. I would not consider buying from a
DC>  JR> vendor who shows their
DC>  JR> dislike for some one in their advertisments.. Be it
DC>  JR> the President or anyone
DC>  JR> else for that Matter..

DC> You democrats are all alike <G D&R>.

Well, I "Never said" I was a Democrat....
Just like to see The CD echo used for CD-ROM.."NOT" Clinton Discussion
as some have chose to do..(Poor Taste).... <GBFG>   ^       ^

John

 * WCE 1.10/2035 * Just Another Happy Wildcat Sysop..1:138/173

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2710
  To: MARK STEIGER                             Date: 07/29/93  6:04p
Subj: interface card                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ATI Technologies has one, Stereo F/X CD.
It is about the same as the S.B. pro, but has enhanced noise filtering,
and less distortion.
It costs about $145 mailorder.

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2711
  To: DICK HUDDLESTON                          Date: 07/29/93  6:12p
Subj: Re: CAN U READ THIS?                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I read it fine too.

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2712
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 07/29/93  6:15p
Subj: Re: Old 600ms CD-ROM driv               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does that mean we get a discount?
Say, after hearing this, what exactly IS a good CD-ROM?
I am BADLY in the market for one :)

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2713
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/29/93  6:18p
Subj: Toshiba CDROMs                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I really need a drive, do these have software and are they SCSI?

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2714
  To: RENE LINDNER                             Date: 07/30/93  8:15p
Subj: CDROM                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Pckwik will do the job.. Caches hard and CD-ROM drives!

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2715
  To: GLENN JONES                              Date: 07/30/93  8:44p
Subj: CD Rom Help                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Well, if you want to stay with MPC for games and most programs.
500ms speed or faster, 150kb/sec or faster and SCSI interface. (not
needed but helps performance)

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 2716
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 07/31/93  1:12p
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Up All Night is a new shareware CD that Bob Hall published.  It is a general
mix of shareware spanning a few years.  It also has all the 1990 messages from
the CD echo.

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2717
  To: LEN BUSSEY                               Date: 07/22/93 11:28p
Subj: Cd Swap                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LB>I have the following CD's I'd like to swap for shareware CDs and/or
LB>adult CD's.

LB>Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
LB>The Secret of Monkey Island
LB>Loom

LB>Call me at 615-659-9216 voice or
LB>           615-659-6470 FIDO node 3622/10 or 2010 BBS

LB>--- RBBSMAIL 17.1C
LB> * Origin: 2010 BBS - Petersburg TN [phone] (RBBS-PC 1:3622/10.0)
I'll trade ya either Nautilus NET CD or Starvector 208
                Let me know what else you are looking for.  Does Secret
                of Monkey Island require a fast Cd rom? Does it have
                Soundblaster sound!
                                Sam Figueroa


 * SLMR 2.1a * Sam's Software [phone]

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2718
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/22/93 11:33p
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC>CD Winbox.....28.50 * Software Vault 2....23.95 * Global Explorer..93.50
DC>Games 1993....24.50 * Shareware Studio 2..23.95 * Bible Library....28.95
DC>Windows 1993..27.50 * Up All Night........19.95 * NG/SD Mammals....26.50
DC>Mayo Clinic...28.50 * Aminet (Amiga)......16.95 * Busty Babes......29.95
DC>Nightowl v9...28.95 * Reference Library...26.95 * Ecstasy..........29.95
DC>Nightowl v8...26.95 * Readers Library.....28.95 * Nix Pix 2/3/4/5..29.95
DC>Pier 1........27.95 * Clip Art Galore..28.95  We sell Hundreds of Titles
DC>All Chestnut Titles (15 CDS)...13.50 * Many Walnut Creek Titles...16.95
DC>PCJ - Orders - 800-547-7817 *-* Orders\Inquiry - 615-339-0235 (24 Hrs)
DC>Fax [phone] *-* BBS 615-478-2890 *-* No surcharge for credit cards

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DC> * Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119)
Doug,
        What is on the "Up All Night" cd, is it adult or what?
                                Thanks,
                                        Sam Figueroa


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2719
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/28/93 12:03a
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IG>I have the following CD-ROM's I would be willing to trade, especialy for
IG>adult CD's.

IG>1.Loom
IG>2.The Secret of Monkey Island
IG>3.Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
IG>4.A Line in the Sand

IG>Israel M. Gomberg
IG>330 Kitty Hawk Rd. #2806
IG>Universal City, TX 78148
IG>[phone]


IG>... I was *this* close to seeing elvis. But my shovel broke.
IG>___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

IG>--- TMail v1.31.5
IG> * Origin: Last Chance TBBS *HST v32b* [phone] San Antonio,Tx
IG>(1:387/822)
What would you take for either or both cd's especially Monkey Island???
I have a Nautilus CD I would trade for it, it has multimedia, and other
Windows stuff on it!  Do the cd's have manuals?
                        Sam Figueroa
                        Sam's Software
                        [phone]


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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 2720
  To: JACKIE ROGERS                            Date: 07/30/93  9:15p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jackie Rogers to J.p. Ladner <=-

 JR> The Mitsumi is a low-cost drive, and can be found brand-new
 JR> for as low as $175
 JR> if you shop around.  The going rate appears to be about $190.  I
 JR> personally  don't recommend the drive, as whenever there's a disc
 JR> returned to me as  defective, it works fine in our office.  I call the
 JR> customer to inquire about  the type of drive they're using, and they
 JR> ALWAYS say, "Mitsumi."  Seems the  Mitsumi has a problem reading many
 JR> of the discs out there on the market.  HOWEVER, industry sources have
 JR> indicated that Mitsumi has  found a problem with
 JR> their controller card, and have corrected it.

I picked up on a similar thread the other day, and since I'm having a
problem reading the Shareware Studio Vols 1&2 I called the dealer where
I got my Mitsumi.  He informed me that this is BS(I think he is waffling).

So now I'm real confused.

Where and how do I get more info?  Is Mitsumi going to give
an upgrade to owners of their drives?  My unit is still under warranty, so
I would think that Mitsumi would owe me a correction.

                                           Ron


... RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: CARLOS AVELLANET                       Number: 2721
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93  9:23p
Subj: Re: BUY 3 GET POWERPAK FR               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> Get the three newest and hottest adult CD's on the market for the
 MS> super low price of only $89, and receive a PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware
 MS> CD absolutely free!  This offer is for a limited time only, so hurry!

     Which is this PPG 3.0?  I have the fall 1992 edition, Is the 3.0
     newer than that?

Carlos.

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From: KEVIN WAKEFIELD                        Number: 2722
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/12/93  4:20p
Subj: New adult cd                            Refer: NONE
Read: 08/02/93  6:51a                       Private: No

On 07-10-93 Tim Helton said to Bob Jackson:

TH>->  WH> > KW>            ***   WILD WOMEN Volume 1    ***
TH>-> You've got the wrong guy! This disc is being published out of
TH>-> Australia. I sent the note to them asking about street prices.  So
TH>-> far, I haven't heard back.
TH>
TH>Actually, this disc is coming out of Atlanta... Kevin Wakefield is the
TH>publisher and I have the worldwide exclusive distribution rights to
TH>tim


   Didn't you know that we now have offices in Sydney and Melbourne? <g>

   Good'ay mate.....


           <<<  kevin  >>>


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From: JOHNG FISHER                           Number: 2723
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/15/93  6:00p
Subj: Mitsumi for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>I'm interested in this drive but I'm leary of a 150ms drive and
JL>software for only $200 ???

works even on 7th guest--has stereo output to headphone jack in front.  it's
entirely worth it....

===
 * RM 1.0 00103 * Good manners are the lubricant of social intercourse.


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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 2724
  To: MIKE MAST                                Date: 07/31/93  9:33p
Subj: CD File Descriptions                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MM> Terry, thanks for writing that for me!  There are a
 MM> couple small things that maybe you could modify...?
 MM>
 MM> The program truncates filenames to 8.2 instead of 8.3 characters.
 MM> This only happens when the first part of the filename
 MM> is the maximum of 8 charaters.  If the name is 7 or
 MM> less, it'll write the full 3 character extentsion.

Sorry... I noticed that yesterday and fixed it.    You can freq the fixed
version from me at 3625/441  under the magic name "Maxcdset"


 MM> While I'm giving you my wish list <G>, could you add
 MM> an option to truncate the finished line to a user
 MM> definable number of characters?  Something like:

 I have found out that if the line exceeds about 240 chars then
 Maximus will show the rest of the line on a second line with
 "Offline" written before that part of the description.  I am
 currently setting it to read the first 5 lines of the extended
 description.  That seems to work out best with the least amount
 of work.


 MM> It'd be nice to be able to truncate the lines to
 MM> whatever length a certain program requires.


I can whip up a utility... In fact I already have one somewhere that will read
EVERY file in a directory and whack off anything past a certain column.  If the
current version you freq does not satisfy then let me know...

BTW  I'll have more cases in a couple days... I'll send you 2 unless you let me
know you don't want them.


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2725
  To: J.P. LADNER                              Date: 07/30/93  2:48p
Subj: Re: Night Owls 9                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 26 Jul 93  23:28:00, I heard Jim Lambert shout to J.P. Ladner:

JL> JL>Can anybody match a legitamate ad for night owls 9 of $29 ??  If so
JL>   >please tell me the soonest you could send it to me in VA...I had ordered
JL>   >one about 14 days ago and it still hasn't arrived so I called and
JL>   >cancled the damn thing...I need it as fast as possible...


     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!



               Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney!
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2726
  To: JOHN CARROLL                             Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: This Weeks CDROM Specials               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JC>and to stay on topic....can you suggest a good CD of Windows Shareware, set
u
JC>for RA bbs software? Something current?   Thanks!

If you want the BEST Windows shareware CD available, try CD Winbox.  Just
released, with a full 650mb of mostly '93 files.  In stock at $27 if you
are interested.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2727
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DD>On several occasions I have tried sending a fax to a vendor, only to get a
DD>series of unrecognizable handshaking tones. I then usually call voice, and
am
DD>told "Try again, once I reconfigure the faxmodem" or "Try again, but press
yo
DD>SEND button before my faxmodem answers", or "I only receive faxes from 8am
to
DD>6pm", or "Oh, I don't accept faxes, I use the faxmodem to only send catalogs
DD>out", or "It's for my suppliers' use only".

Then you haven't called Starvector!  We use a good ol' iron horse Murata
desktop model.  She's standing by 24 hours a day, waiting for your call!
Give us a try @ 509-457-2966 any time.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2728
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: CD'S ON SALE!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

___________________________________________________________________________

                   STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!
___________________________________________________________________________

      - These are special prices, and are for a limited time only.
      - Sale limited to stock on hand, so hurry!

                              GENERAL TITLES
                              --------------
Bibles & Religion...$10   Colossal Cookbook...$10   Our Solar System....$10
Shareware Overload..$10   Windows 93..........$21   SoundWAV............$24
Deathstar Arcade....$10   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15   House of Games......$20
Ham Radio 3.0.......$10   Sound Sensations....$10   Windoware...........$10
Complete Bookshop...$10   Technotools.........$10   Too Many Typefonts..$10
Compton's Interact..$95   Clipart Goliath.....$10   Dictionaries/Lang...$10

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2729
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  1:04a
Subj: DOWNLOAD OUR CATALOG!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 300+
CD-ROM titles that we stock, please feel free to call our new BBS at
509-457-0206.  The system is using a U.S.R. Sportster V.32bis, so you
should have no problem logging on at any speed between 300bps and
14,400bps.

>>>>    All callers may download our catalog on the first call!    <<<<

Once in, you can go the the <F>ile section from the main menu and
download "STARCAT.ZIP".  This contains our latest prices, newest titles,
and CD descriptions.

While online, you may want to download one or more of the CD-ROM file
listings that are available.

The Starvector BBS is online, and waiting to serve you!  Look for
continuous updates and improvements in the near future, with more CD
file listings, new online doors, and more!

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2730
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 07/30/93  9:09a
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there,  do you have Space Quest 4/Kings Quest for abouut 35.00?

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2731
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/30/93  9:21a
Subj: THE MONSTER IS BACK!  2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there,

    You advertised:
SPACE QUEST 4 = 25.00
KINGS QUEST 5 = 25.00

It says at top that you can beet any Advertised Price...  I found a deal that
lets these two games come together for about $35...  Can you beat that... Here
I'll give you the guys name and Number....

He is:
Doug Carpenter and his BBS number is (615)-479-1047...

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2732
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 07/30/93  9:26a
Subj: Space Quest 4/Kings Quest               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there Doug,
    I would like to know how you would like to be paid if Mike Shannon can not
beat your prices for Space quest 4/Kings Quest...  So please tell me if you
would like a money order and the totall cost CANADIAN would be..  (APROXX)...


Well get back to you in a few days.

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From: DON HANCOCK                            Number: 2733
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/25/93  7:25a
Subj: Red Hot Cd'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

BO> ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec

    Hi Boris. I'm looking for virtually any programming CD's and this looks
    like about the most I'd pay. However, I don't know ANY of the available
    CD's. I got Source CD-ROM Mar'92 with my CD, but it stinks. I'm
    particularly interested in C, C++, Clipper and dBASE files. My
    father-in-law is interested in Pascal. What kind of files (and their
    numbers) are on this and other disks? Looking to add 3 or 4 more to my
    collection. Thanx for any info....

 * SLMR 2.1a * If it jams, force it. If it breaks, it needed replacing a

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2734
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93  1:59a
Subj: MIX or MATCH                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Canadian Shareware      Ultimate Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
PC-SIG Games              LaserTax On CD          Phoenix # 3
Jokes&Pranks              Learning Adventure      Business Assistant
World Travler             Sound Sensation         DeathStar Arcade
Colossal CookBook         ClipArt Goliath         Technotools
Our Solar System          Bible & Religion

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress....... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2735
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93  1:59a
Subj: CD SYSTEMS                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 2736
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  3:49p
Subj: NEW Corel ArtShow 3 CD &                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Latest Corel ArtShow 3

     CD with beautifully printed coffee table book

          ArtShow 3 Program (does not need CorelDraw to run) is run from
          Windows and allows searching  & viewing of all 3000 images
          accompanied by on-line MIDI music

          3000 images in CorelDRAW .CDR format (editable in CorelDraw)

          Corel CD-Audio Program- allows you to play your MUSIC CDs in
          your CD-ROM drive.

          Corel ARTVIEW Screen Saver for Windows 3.1

          >> Still Sealed-- BRAND NEW <<

          $25 + UPS

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/52              Number: 2737
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 07/30/93  6:00p
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hi, michael.  the drives rod and i ordered arrived just fine yesterday, but you
sent me an external terminator and i needed an internal one.  that drive i got
from you is going inside my computer (remember the internal cable you made for
me?)  anyway, there is not a terminator to be found anywhere in fresno or by
mail order from anyone i could contact thru computer shopper.

the terminator you sent wound up on rod's drive, so it wasnt a total waste -
he's up and running and happy as a clam.

\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: LARISSA KOHLER                         Number: 2738
  To: CRAIG CURRY                              Date: 07/29/93  7:54p
Subj: Re: Walnut Creek Games CD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

**** CRAIG CURRY just happened to say to LARISSA KOHLER ****

CC> They've been putting off my order too. I am looking forward to
CC> the CD
CC> "if" it ever ships. Reminds me of some hardware venders I know...
CC> I guesse I will keep my order standing, but I'm wondering if I
CC> shouldn't
CC> get another CD in the mean time.

I wouldn't...it looks like as soon as it comes off this new publisher, it'll be
out....which should be soon.  :)  Have you tried either their windows cdrom or
their dos cdrom?  I've got both and they're excellent!
     Larissa

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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 2739
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 07/31/93  8:23a
Subj: Encyclo_CD gone                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks, I will search the world for a copy until I find one.
I see a Name Boris O. is selling CDS. Will try him.


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 2740
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/31/93 12:40a
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> DC> MS>             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <
->
-> DC>Hogwash.
->
-> Hogwash?  Boy, there's a term I haven't heard in a while.  Like I sai
-> Doug, you're certainly welcome to "call my bluff" any time you see fi
-> If it IS "hogwash", then you should have no trouble proving it.  Go a
-> and advertise them for less than $10, and let's see what happens!  8)
->
-> .\\ike
->
-> ---
->  * SLMR 2.1a * I am Clinton of Borg: resistance is taxable!
->
-> --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
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->
 YO mike

Do you have the adult cd featuring teri weigel?


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 2741
  To: LOYD CRAFT                               Date: 07/31/93 12:52a
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->                  ****  Four-Star Enterprises  ****
->                        Custom CDROM Service
->
->   Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
->   produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
->   overnight!
->
->    o Complete confidentiality assured.  Your data will NOT be pilfere
->    o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media.
->    o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
->    o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
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->                  Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
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->
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->
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 Give me a call at (305)7822631 when you are accepting 5.25 scsi tapes

That's what my favorite .gifs are backed up on 400 megs

Vito


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From: LARRY CHARPIAT                         Number: 2742
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/30/93  1:57a
Subj: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can the Pioneer six disk changers access the six different CD ROM disk
through a BBS menu with a software switch or command?


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2743
  To: DAN HOOD                                 Date: 07/31/93 11:32a
Subj: Re: SCSI CDROM                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DH>  > 2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $195.00 with caddy.
DH>
DH>  > Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin
DH>  > SCSI,
DH>  >   300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM,
DH>  > Refurb.,
DH>  >   64k buffer.
DH>
DH> Is the above ROM compatible with OS/2 v2.1? Are there drivers
DH> available for it to run under OS/2? If so I'll take it.

I've sold a couple of OS/2 users and haven't heard anything about it not
working.  The drivers came with your OS/2 and your particular SCSI
controller.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2744
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/31/93  7:30a
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You had posted a list of adult titles for sale and I'd asked for more
information. You supplied a little more, but not enough for me to make a
purchase decision. Oddly enough, Goosebump Graphics posted a similar list
shortly thereafter with somewhat more inclusive descriptions. Bottom  line:
I'll probably wait and work through the titles I'm interested in  with Mike
Shannon one or two at a time over then next several weeks.
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2745
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 07/31/93  8:49a
Subj: cd's shipping to canada??               Refer: NONE
Read: 08/02/93  6:54a                       Private: No

 TH> country.  Me thinks that it's not ANY government's responsibilit
 TH> force-feed morality, thru censorship, on its citizens.  But then


How do you feel about FidoNet moderators?  Apparently the CD-ROM
Information echo will no longer allow even mention of the subject of
adult CDs. Do you plan a similar change for this echo?
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 2746
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/30/93  9:09p
Subj: Netware PD/ShrWare CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its Netware CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
801 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:[phone], EMail:[e-mail]
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From: CLINT SAVAGE                           Number: 2747
  To: KEVIN MARTIN                             Date: 07/28/93  7:54a
Subj: SLOW PUS                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Kevin; The Disk arrived list night, Thank-you. Oh by the way It was the 1987
Version #1 not the 1991.
Clint

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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2748
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 07/31/93 10:07p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >I have The 7th Guest, and after pulling my hair out have completed it.
 >Is anybody willing to trade a good adult CD for it?
RD>I just sold all my adult Cd's, but how about $36 shipped, cash money.

Sorry, I have already traded it.

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 2749
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/29/93 10:53p
Subj: Storm II sale or trade...               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,    I offered Storm II for trade a month ago, and had some replies.
However,  I was victum of a hard drive failure and was off-line for a
few weeks.  I apoligize to anyone who did not receive a reply from me.
So...  I am offering this again.  I will sell or trade this CD.
        Thanks,    Shane
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From: CHUCK BRIDWELL                         Number: 2750
  To: DAVID PETERSON                           Date: 07/26/93  5:44p
Subj: PHONE NUMBERS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Whoops! Let's check those phone numbers one more time:

Line 1: 357-2473 - USR Dual Standard HST/V.32bis
Line 2: 581-1335 - Practical Peripherals PM14400FXSA V.32bis
Line 3: 353-5999 - Practical Peripherals PM14400FXSA V.32bis

Sorry about the wrong exchange for Line 1 in the previous message.


     Chuck





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From: TED KIDD                               Number: 2751
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/31/93  1:25a
Subj: NEW CD'S IN STOCK!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS> Radio.......$19Aminet Amiga 1993...$15   Bible Library 1.1...$28

Is the Aminet Amiga 1993 disc BBS compatible?
And, do you carry a Macintosh disc that is IBM BBS compatible other than
OtherWare????  Please give the name, price, and date if you do...
Thanks
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 2752
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/30/93 10:40p
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ> DP> There was a bug in the original version.  You can freq the "fix"
BJ>DP> from us as


BJ>Dave:

BJ>I'd left you a copule of messages on your BBS regarding an add'l problem
BJ>with WINBox: Trying to view .TXT files from within a ZIPped file causes
BJ>the viewer to instantly minimize without displaying the file. Any ideas

BJ>what's causing this? I've logged back in a couple of times but didn't
BJ>see any messages to me.
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BJ>* Origin: The Bit Bucket * Houston, Tx * 713/496-9670 * (1:106/9670)

That bug too has been "fixed."  The new version of the GUI will appear when we
re-press the CD WinBox next week.  Sorry for all the troubles, this is the best

example of the downside to CD-ROM's!  <G>

Later,
Dave Perkovich
Damar Enterprises Software
The CD PowerBox Guys!


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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 2753
  To: DON KULHA                                Date: 07/30/93 10:41p
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DK> DP> There was a bug in the original version.  You can freq
DK>DP> the "fix" file from us as
DK>DP> "WBOXFIX.ZIP" at 1:161/205.  Sorry for the problems -
DK>DP> the disk isn't exactly
DK>DP> worthless w/o the front end, wouldn't you agree?  :>

DK>   I noticed that fix file on your board. Unfortunatly I had called looking
DK>for alternative FILES.BBS files in a format for Maximus/Opus. On the inside
DK>cover it says " Damar Enterprises provides their FILES.BBS listings in many
DK>specific BBS formats. Please call our 24 hour/day BBS for a complete
selectio
DK>of FREE downloads to support the CD Winbox". I called looking for them to no

DK>avail....where can I get them?
DK>   DCK


I need you to send me the file format for a Maximus BBS and I'll be more than
happy to convert the FILES.BBS and send them to you.  As long as they are not
in
a "database format" - like WWIV, we can help you out...

Dave Perkovich
Damar Enterprises Software
The CD PowerBox Guys!


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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 2754
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 07/31/93 11:00a
Subj: Busty babes, before 3                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>Boris:

BJ>Are you saying that you still stock the *ORIGINAL*  Rel 1.0 BB? If you
BJ>have any of THEM at $29, I'd be interested in hearing about it.

BJ> * Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas

Things must sure be tough, out there in the boondocks like that. :-) I went to
a small hamfest in tiny Ashtabula, OH last weekend, at which there were two CD
dealers.  Each of them had several copies still of BB1, 1st version. I didn't
price them, but would suspect that $29 was either at or just OVER what the sale
price would be.  Even NO9 was available at each dealer for $29, and other discs
were likewise reasonable in cost.

Get thee to a hamfest!  73, de K8YUW

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Remembering all my buddies on The Wall.


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2755
  To: DICK HUDDLESTON                          Date: 08/01/93  1:59a
Subj: Re: Address                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Boris, I would like to order some CD ROM disks, and send a
>>    money order instead of using a credit card.  Would you please
>>    indicate the correct address to send the order to?

You can mail your order to the following:

        Consumer's Club International
        3092 Holly Dr
        Brunswick, Ohio 44212
        Voice: 216-225-3263
        Fax:   [phone]
        BBS:   216-2255-6130
        Fido # 1:157/46


GENERAL NOTICE TO ALL USERS !!!!!

>>    Also, would you advise the price of the BB version 1 you have?
>>    I would like to have one, but not sure I can afford it.

As many of you already know, "Busty Babes 1 vol 1" was a limited press
and was on the market for a very short time before Lee had to pull it
off the market due to legal problem on the cd. The actual number press,
I'am told, was 3,000 copy's, of which I think we sold nearly 1,000
ourselves....grin...

Recently, we were luck enough to purchase 50 copies of the orignal versions
and began marketing the remain few we had. The going rate had been $80. per
cd until our stock dropped to the last 5 cd's on hand. At which point, we
decided to hold onto the remaining unit's . But the phone calls kept coming
and user after user kept asking us to sell the remaining units. So, we
decided we would market the last 3 units to the highest bidder. The first
serious buyer purchased one unit for $150.00 the next buyer to call, knowing
that we had only 2 units left offred us $250.00, which we accepted. We are
now down to the last remain unit and have several customers offering us
$300.00 for the original.

Sound crazy ??? Yes it is, when you think of it !! The disk sold for $45. -
$65 in 1992, but it's value has increased as time went on. Unlike any CD
we've ever sold, "Busty Babes I" is the ONLY CD I know of that has going
the other way in value.

So, to those who are lucky enough to have BB v1.0 with the BamBam Logo on
it, your sitting on a gold mine. It's value will increase even more after
Lee goes to BBS Con and the full story is told.

As to what we did with the last version we have on hand, well...due we
hear $400. ???

Oh yes, there's version 1.0 dated 1992, then there's the remake
version 1 vol 2 dated 1993 and then there's the current version "Busty
Babes III". Yes, we do have all three copies on hand.

BOB !! I know you posted a new rule regarding adult material, but I think
this bit of cd history was important enough that you'd understand.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress....... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2756
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 08/01/93  1:59a
Subj: Re: WHILE THEY LAST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    In a message of <26 Jul 93  02:14:07>, Boris Osadciw
>>    (1:157/46) writes:

 >>********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************
 >>
 >>Learning Adventure
 >>Business Assistant
 >>Colossal CookBook
 >>Technotools
>>    I might be interested in these, please tell me a little about
>>    Learning adventure, business assistant, and Technotools. Or if
>>    you are willing to stand behind them as being well worth the
>>    money just ship them and 4 caddies to me.

Let's put it this way. Thier NEW NEVER OPENED copies and for $10.00
there worth more than any book you'd find in a story.

To say you'd be over excited about thier contance, would be very
hard to do as one person would say thier worth much more than this and
another would say thier not worth a plug nickel.

As to my view point, they sure are worth the $10. Since there's not
much out there in that price range.

Interested, give us a call and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2757
  To: DREW IANNUZZI                            Date: 08/01/93  1:59a
Subj: Re: Peer2                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    In need of PEER 2 Cd-ROM Disk.


Have them in stock for $25. !!

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2758
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 08/01/93  1:59a
Subj: Re: Wanted: Storm 2                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    I'm interested in buying Storm 2.  It sells new in this
>>    conference for $28, so I'll pay up to $20 delivered for a used
>>    one.  Please reply here or in netmail. Thanks.

>>    I'm also interested in a used copy of Nightowl 9, but that
>>    seems pretty unlikely.  <grin>

How about $25. for a Unused copy ??? Or better yet, Storm 1, 2, 3 for
$55. ??

Interested, call us at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to help
you out.

Boris Osadciw

... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: JEFF COCHRAN                           Number: 2759
  To: DON HANCOCK                              Date: 08/01/93  8:02a
Subj: Red Hot Cd'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I got Source CD-ROM Mar'92 with my CD, but it stinks.

Would you be interested in selling or trading it?  (Cheap of course, since it
isn't that much new...)

Jeff


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2760
  To: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529               Date: 08/01/93  9:23a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

S9> the terminator you sent wound up on rod's drive, so it wasnt a total
S9> waste - he's up and running and happy as a clam.

He just ordered two more.

I'm working on the terminator thing.


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2761
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/01/93  9:24a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROMs                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HP> I really need a drive, do these have software and are they SCSI?

Yes, they are SCSI, not proprietary.  The software used are your own SCSI
controllers drivers.  This drive doesn't require any special drivers for
operation.

205-837-5053


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From: SAL PEDONE                             Number: 2762
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/01/93  9:51a
Subj: Cd-rom disks forsale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


   I have a few CD's left from my now defunct business:

   All are new unused....

   1 Danger Hot Stuff...Collection of PC Graphic Demos with
     Sound blaster support......$15

   1 Best of the Bureau...has a sample of about 7 disks that
     the Bureau puts out........$15

   1 Great Cities of the World Part I...MPC for Windows...$15

   1 FontMaster CD Font Library.....$12

   2 Sherlock Holmes on Disc by CMC...Complete works of
     the Great Detective......$10

   2 Complete Works of William Shakespeare by CMC.....$10

   Will let all 8 go for $80 plus shipping...If interested leave
   a message here or give me a call at 912-956-5163  6pm-9pm EST


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2763
  To: CARLOS AVELLANET                         Date: 07/31/93 10:42p
Subj: Re: BUY 3 GET POWERPAK FREE!            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Mike Shannon <07-29-93 21:23> Carlos Avellanet wrote:

CA>>      Which is this PPG 3.0?  I have the fall 1992 edition, Is the 3.0
CA>>      newer than that?

No, Darlin'--It's the same one minus the copyrighted GIFS on it--

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2764
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/31/93 10:43p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABE III                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <07-31-93 01:59> Boris Osadciw wrote:

BO>> )))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

Er, ah....Busty Babes Vol I Release/Revision 3--Don't want any confusion here--

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: JIM REED                               Number: 2765
  To: TERRY MCDILL                             Date: 07/31/93 10:10p
Subj: The 7th Guest and Mitsumi               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TM>I just purchased a Mitusmi CD-Rom and was wondering if this drive would supp
TM>the game "The 7th Guest". The other equipment is able to support the game.

Hi Terry;
        T7G runs just fine on my Mitsumi 350ms Internal.
                                /JIM/

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2766
  To: DREW IANNUZZI                            Date: 07/31/93 11:28a
Subj: Peer2                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> In need of PEER 2 Cd-ROM Disk.

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE

 PIER2      CDS - The Pier Shareware CD-ROM #2          29.00



===
 * RM 1.0 B0391 * Please see our complete list in the FOR SALE conferences.


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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 2767
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 07/31/93 11:36a
Subj: Re: Your order                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Patrick Rosenheim to Dick Huddleston <=-

 PR> Dick, I need your phone number........

I just today received the message (Sat 7-31).  My office nr. is
713-831-6844.  I am out most of the time, but you can leave a message
if not personal.  The best place to call is my voice mail 713-347-6948.




... Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we may diet.  -Unknown
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2768
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 07/31/93 11:09p
Subj: who's crazy?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LF>fine. Interestingly enough, on "Too Many Typefonts" I found a font that
LF>I myself had ported to the laserjet format and uploaded (somewhere...) a
LF>few years ago. Immortalized in [whatever they make cd's out of]!

Your work will live forever my dear, or at least until all those CD's
decompose.  (Forever minus a couple of hours.  8)

Glad you got your CD's OK.

Take care,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2769
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 07/31/93 11:09p
Subj: Bottom line pricing                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LF> MS> growing customer base.  Because of this, I haven't had a chance to sit
LF> MS> down and update my 2-column "monster" CD price list with all the new
LF> MS> titles we keep getting.  Come to think of it, I haven't had a chance to

LF>But how will we know of all the great new stuff available if you don't
LF>tell us?

Yeah, yeah, OK.  I'll bring it back for ya!  8)

Seriously, the response I've had from folks telling me not to mothball the
"Monster" has really shocked me!  8)

Keep looking . . . you'll see 'em!

Take care,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2770
  To: RICHARD NIXON                            Date: 07/31/93 11:09p
Subj: Wanted!                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RN>I am looking for:
RN>Storm 1, 2 or 3. ($20)

Can sell you all three for $60.  Plenty in stock.

Bye,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2771
  To: DREW IANNUZZI                            Date: 07/31/93 11:09p
Subj: Peer2                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DI>In need of PEER 2 Cd-ROM Disk.

Drew,

In stock and shipping at $35.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2772
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 07/31/93 11:09p
Subj: DOUG'S PRICES                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DS>    You advertised:
DS>SPACE QUEST 4 = 25.00
DS>KINGS QUEST 5 = 25.00

DS>It says at top that you can beet any Advertised Price...  I found a deal
that
DS>lets these two games come together for about $35...  Can you beat that...
Her
DS>I'll give you the guys name and Number....
DS>He is:
DS>Doug Carpenter and his BBS number is (615)-479-1047...

Darren,

Doug's current advertised prices for these on the net are $23.95, and
$24.95, for a total of $48.90.  I've seen no ad for $35, but I may have
missed it so I'll take your word for it.  Your cost: $35 - 5% = $33.25
+ s/h.  Plenty in stock . . . call with your plastic in hand if you
would like a set!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2773
  To: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                        Date: 07/31/93 11:09p
Subj: ADULT CD'S                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JG>I am looking for anyone who is willing to sell their adult CD's--such as
JG>Sexcapades The Movie, Hot Pix...or anything similar.  I prefer movies over
JG>gifs.

Jerry,

We have several of the new movie CD's in stock, including Sexxcapades,
which is *fair* quality.  Stay away from My First Time if you have
a local bus system.  The best movie CD's we stock are:  Seedy-ROM
Movie Disc @ $45, Nightwatch Interactive @ $49, Adventures of Seymore
Butts @ $49, and Dirty Talk @ $59.  After Dark Trilogy is also good at
$45.  SexxCapades is $49, but only fair picture quality IMO.

All are in stock as of 7/31.  Let me know if you're interested in any
of them!

Later,
.\\ike

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 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2774
  To: JOHN CARROLL                             Date: 07/31/93 11:09p
Subj: This Weeks CDROM Specials               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC> JC> and to stay on topic....can you suggest a good CD
DC> JC> of Windows Shareware, set up for RA bbs software?
DC> JC> Something current?   Thanks!

John,

CD Winbox is your best bet.  We have them at $25 in stock.  PCB style
FILES.BBS in each directory, but Damar has several file formats available
on their BBS that you can download.

Call any time if interested.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2775
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93 11:09p
Subj: BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

***************************************************************************
            NEW ADULT CD'S AVAILABLE FROM STARVECTOR . . . .
***************************************************************************

 Busty Babes 3.0...............35.00    After Dark Trilogy (movies)...45.00
 All Beauties..................36.00    Southern Beauties.............35.00
 Amateur Models................35.00    Dirty Talk (movie)............59.00
 Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00    Girls of Vivid................45.00

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2776
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93 11:09p
Subj: CD PACKAGE DEALS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                       +-------------------------+
  CHECK                |   SPECIAL BONUS OFFER   |     GET A FULL 650MB
                       +-------------------------+     OF RECENT SHAREWARE
     THIS              |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0    |     FOR
                       |     REVISED EDITION     |          ONLY
        OUT !!         |    SHAREWARE CD ONLY    |
                       |  $4.00  W/ PURCHASE OF  |         4   BUCKS!
           ----------> |    ANY PACKAGE DEAL!    |         ----------
                       +-------------------------+

-------------[ CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS ]------------------------------------

1. Night Owl 7.0     2. Storm 1     3. Southern Beauties     4. Hot Pix 3
   Night Owl 8.0        Storm 2        All Beauties             Hot Pix 4
   Night Owl 9.0        Storm 3        Amateur Models           Hot Pix 5
   -------------        -------        --------------           ---------
   $69                  $69            $95                      $85


       5. Night Owl 8.0     6. Night Owl 9     7. All Beauties
          Night Owl 9.0        Pier 2             Southern Beauties
          -------------        ------             -----------------
          $55                  $59                $65


8. Up All Night            9. Empire Clipart             10. Pier 2
   Super CD 2                 Clipart Heaven                 SW Vault 2
   So Much Shareware 3        Encyclopedia of Clipart        SW Studio 2
   -------------------        -----------------------        -----------
   $63                        $59                            $65


11. CD Winbox      12. House of Games     13. Busty Babes     14. Storm 2
    Windows 93         Game Arena             Ecstasy             Storm 3
    ----------         ----------             -------             -------
    $44                $35                    $55                 $49


15. Fantazia Fonts         16. Porkware 1       17. Compton's Interactive
    Fontmaster 2               Porkware 2           U.S. Atlas MPC
    Too Many Typefonts         All Beauties         Learning Adventure
    ------------------         ------------         ------------------
    $49                        $89                  $129


PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .

               WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 2777
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/01/93  1:14p
Subj: Toshiba CDROMs                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   This may be deemed by the moderator to be off topic, but I wasn't
sure how to do it another way. I used to live in Tacoma, as well as
graduate from Puyallup High in 1969. Do you have any users that might
have been in the same years?
   If so, please have them send me some mail in another (to please the
moderator) echo.  I think the address of this one will show up in the
message. If not, it is SWIPCC Clubhouse in El Paso , Texas. Thanks!


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From: JOHN ANDERSON                          Number: 2778
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 07/29/93 10:41p
Subj: Re: The 7Th Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>.. Clinton will tax wealthy Americans. Congratulations! You're rich!
>
>I might have been interested, but I don't do buisness with
>people who show the distaste of forwarding their
>unsolicited political views.

Speak For Yourself.  I will try, at all possible chances, to send all of my
further CD-ROM orders to Mike since he was exercising his "distaste" by
taking advantage of his 1st amendment rights....

John


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From: JACK HUDDLE                            Number: 2779
  To: BOB ROSOL                                Date: 08/01/93 12:03p
Subj: NEW Corel ArtShow 3 CD &                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Rosol was quoted to all

    BR>Latest Corel ArtShow 3

BR>     CD with beautifully printed coffee table book

BR>          ArtShow 3 Program (does not need CorelDraw to run) is run from
BR>          Windows and allows searching  & viewing of all 3000 images
BR>          accompanied by on-line MIDI music

BR>          3000 images in CorelDRAW .CDR format (editable in CorelDraw)

BR>          Corel CD-Audio Program- allows you to play your MUSIC CDs in
BR>          your CD-ROM drive.

BR>          Corel ARTVIEW Screen Saver for Windows 3.1

BR>          >> Still Sealed-- BRAND NEW <<

BR>          $25 + UPS

Bob I will take this if it is still avail please send to:
Jack Huddle
8440 Blacklick Eastern Road
Pickerington, Ohio 43147
Any problems? I can be reached at [phone]...thks Jack

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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 2780
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/01/93 11:32a
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Bob Jackson <07-01-93 20:29> Lee Noga wrote:

LN>  I got one with your name on it ! She is about 35% different and is
LN>  minus the filmstars, models, and amateur directories--But we added
LN>  some other directories to fill the voids.......about 95% of the
LN>  T.I.T.S. BBS logo infringements were replaced with the originals or
LN>  just removed off the disc--

Lee what about all the remaining images on Busty Babes the entire disc is a
total copyright violation not one images on that disc do you have licensing
rights to so there for the disc is still in violation of copyright and any
distributor that sells it has the possibility of getting nailed for sell and
distribution of copyrighted material...What do you have to say Ms. Lee Noga

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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 2781
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/01/93 11:47a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Jason Taynor <07-15-93 19:14> Lee Noga wrote:

LN>  NO models, no filmstars, and a real decreased probability that the
LN>  disc contains playboy/penthouse on it,--Removed alot of the amateurs,
LN>  and reduced the disc from 670 MB to 520 MB. Alot safer for sysops
LN>  now--Plus 3.0 has a new interface called, "ShowOff"--Look at 16

**********  NOTICE TO ALL SYSOPS and DISTRIBUTORS **********

Even though the playboy/penthouse scans have been removed and other images as
well the disc is still in total copyright violation reason being is that
someone owns the copyrights to the images on this disc weather it be a model
herself, a photography, or a magazine, so I would not want to take a chance of
putting that disc or any other adult CD-Rom disc on a BBS a sysop could
possibily get nailed for distribution of copyrighted material and anyone
selling this disc or any other adult disc that is not copyrighted and licensed
takes a BIG chance of get prosecuted for sale and distribution of copyrighted
material so ***** B E W A R E ***** sysops and distributors.

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From: RON RICHMOND                           Number: 2782
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/01/93 12:34a
Subj: Disk                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Boris, Did you recieve my order on Sat. July 30 for Busty Babes 1.? I left
it on your electronic order desk. Thanks,      Ron.


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From: CHRIS MORGAN                           Number: 2783
  To: MARK STEIGER                             Date: 08/01/93 12:43a
Subj: interface card                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS >Hello Chris!

MS >24 Jul 93, Chris Morgan writes to Mark Steiger:

MS > CM> Well, I don't own one but the Sound Blaster 16 has one on it.

MS >What are you talking about?  Could you please quote alittle
MS >from my original message?

MS >Thanks

MS >Mark

MS >--- GoldED 2.40
MS > * Origin:  The Spare Computer 612-824-1209/6302 (1:282/62)
I  think you wanted to know about a sound card that has a on-board CD-Rom
interface.  And the Sound Blaster 16 has one.
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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 2784
  To: TERRY MCDILL                             Date: 07/31/93  7:43p
Subj: The 7th guest and mitsumi               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          Terry McDill wrote
----------------------------------------
>>I just purchased a Mitusmi CD-Rom and was wondering if this drive would
>>support
>>the game "The 7th Guest". The other equipment is able to support the game.
>>
----------------------------------------

Depends on which one you have, if you have an older one 600ms acccess time then
it will not.  If you have a newere one then yes, and if you are running it with
a soundblaster pro, then you will need to get the update for it. I think it is
called T7G_124.exe. This will do away with the sound buffer overflow error.
Hope this helps you out.

Lee Christopher Wise
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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 2785
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/01/93 11:16a
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          Mike Shannon wrote
----------------------------------------
>>Then you haven't called Starvector!  We use a good ol' iron horse Murata
>>desktop model.  She's standing by 24 hours a day, waiting for your call!
>>Give us a try @ 509-457-2966 any time.
----------------------------------------

   Mike,

    I used it and it worked.  I want to thank you for your prompt assistance (I
got it about 3 days after I ordered it or so).  For anyone out there thinking
on using their services I would recommend them, and will definitely use them
again..

Lee Christopher Wise
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From: DON HANCOCK                            Number: 2786
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/30/93  7:30a
Subj: Red Hot Summer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

BO> ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec

    Boris, MORE info!! Date? Size? Menu system? Languages supported? Source
    code? Or just utilities?
        I'm VERY interested in any programming CD's. Expecially xBase and
        C/C++.

 * SLMR 2.1a * I just bought a decaffeinated coffee table. Can't ya tell

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2787
  To: SHAWN MAY                                Date: 08/01/93  8:04p
Subj: The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encycl  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Shawn May said:
SM->    Anyone interested in "The software toolworks Multimedia
SM->Encyclopedia,
SM->comes with a little manual, lookif for 40$ OBO..

How about $35.00

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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 2788
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93  6:08a
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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  Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
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   o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
   o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
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                 Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
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            o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
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o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.

o UPS RED Label shipping is $15 extra.


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For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
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From: CHRIS HARRIS                           Number: 2789
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/02/93 12:00a
Subj: StarVector CD Sales                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike, jusr got the CD's I ordered.  Am really pleased with them all, as
is the wife and children.  Expect to see MORE orders from me in the
future.

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From: LEN BUSSEY                             Number: 2790
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 07/31/93  6:37a
Subj: RE:cd Swap                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LB>I have the following CD's I'd like to swap for shareware CDs and/or
LB>Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
LB>The Secret of Monkey Island
LB>Loom
SF>I'll trade ya either Nautilus NET CD or Starvector 208
SF>Let me know what else you are looking for.  Does
SF>Secret of Monkey Island require a fast Cd rom? Does
SF>it have Soundblaster sound!

Looking at the docs for the "Secret of Monkey Island" it doesn't say
anything about having to use a fast CD Rom.  Mine has a 320 ms access
time.  The games does have sound card support.  It pretty much seems to
be automatic.  I just put the CD in and when you load the game it
starts playing thru the sound card.  I don't know what Nautilus or the
Starvector 208 are.  Could you describe them?

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From: LEN BUSSEY                             Number: 2791
  To: JAMES PRICE                              Date: 07/31/93  6:52a
Subj: RE:encylclopedia                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JP>I am interested in purchasing a Multi-Media Encyclopedia, I would
JP>prefer Windows MPC.
JP>I noticed that Compton's has "Interactive", "MM" and "MPC" versions.
JP>What are the differences feature wise between each???

I don't know anything about the "Interactive" version.  The only real
difference in the MM and MPC versions is their user interface.  MM uses
a DOS one and MPC uses Windows.  In my opinion MPC is superior to the
MM version.  Since windows gives you the ability to have an unlimited
number of windows open at once, you can have numerous articles and
media clips open at the same time.  Great for research projects when
you need to flip flop from article to article.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 2792
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93 12:50a
Subj: Hitachi cd rom drives $130              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have about 20 used Hitachi internal cd rom drives available for $130 each.
Interface cards that will run up to 4 of these drives are $60 and I have 4 bay
external cases for $25 and power
supplies for $25  and external cables for $25. You can also get a $10 discount
on ANY shareware cd rom disc I carry when you
purchase a drive. All my shareware titles are $29.  Call
205-284-2552


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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 2793
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 07/29/93 10:07p
Subj: Tcm newsletter...                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please add me to your mailing list:

Lois Frankel
59 Main Blvd.
Ewing, NJ 08618


... It is helpful to use both legs when standing
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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 2794
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 07/29/93 10:16p
Subj: The monster is back!  2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Thanks for reinstituting the "monster;" I've saved it to my "CDROMCAT"
 file for reference. I notice that "Front Page News" is not on your
 list, though it was in the catalog you sent with the discs. Is it no
 longer available? I hope you still have/can get it, since we were
 planning to order it at work as soon as the budget approval comes
 through.


... C:\WIN\>del *.* - Doubles your hard disk space instantly!
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From: MIKE MAST                              Number: 2795
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/01/93  8:40a
Subj: CD File Descriptions                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > BTW  I'll have more cases in a couple days... I'll send you 2
 > unless you let me know you don't want them.

I'll pass on those at the moment.  If you're having these custom made and
could have a slightly different design made, I'd be interested in talking
about that.

Regards,
Mike
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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2796
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 08/01/93  7:26p
Subj: CD-ROM TRADE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IG>I have the following CD-ROM's I would be willing to trade,

IG>1.Loom
IG>2.The Secret of Monkey Island
IG>3.Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe
IG>4.A Line in the Sand


SF>What would you take for either or both cd's especially Monkey Island???
SF>I have a Nautilus CD I would trade for it, it has multimedia, and other
SF>Windows stuff on it!  Do the cd's have manuals?
SF>                        Sam Figueroa
SF>                        Sam's Software


Sorry, but I've already traded them

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2797
  To: STEPHEN BURT                             Date: 07/31/93 11:37a
Subj: Want a CD disk                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have House of Games available for $29 plus shipping.

Description:    House of Games
This disc is filled with the best Board, Adventure, Casino, Education,
and Text Based games available.  All programs have been thoroughly
tested by the professionals at Hi-Tech Production, and found to be the
highest quality shareware available today.  Play hundreds of games
directly from this CD.

Computer Works       [phone] Voice
CD-Rom Sales!        [phone] BBS      Online Credit Card Orders

                                                        Jim...

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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 2798
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 08/01/93 12:50a
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SF>Doug,
SF>        What is on the "Up All Night" cd, is it adult or what?
SF>                                Thanks,
SF>                                        Sam Figueroa

  Hello, Sam!  I hope you won't mind me replying, but the Up All Night
CD is shareware is supposed to mean the hours SysOps spend downloading
files. Hope this helps.

                                                       Mark
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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 2799
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/01/93  1:05a
Subj: CD-Rom Sales!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Hello, Everyone.  The following is a list of all the Reference CD's
that Computer Works carries:

Bibles & Religion                     19.00
CIA World Tour                        39.00
Compton's MPC Encyclopedia           159.00
Compton's Encylopedia                 79.00
Dictionaries & Languages              19.00
Family Doctor                         42.00
Grolier Encyclopedia Win 3.1          51.00
Grolier Encyclopedia Dos 5            49.00
Magazine Rack                         34.00
Mayo Clinic MPC                       39.00
National Parks                        39.00
Precision Mapping                     89.00
Reference Library                     34.00
Street Atlas USA                      99.00
Time Table of Science                 31.00
Total Baseball                        59.00
US & World Atlas                      32.00
US History                            34.00

 All CD's are shipped 2 Day Priority Mail.  Shipping rates are $4.00
for up to 5 CD's and $0.50 for every CD after the first 5.  If you would
like a COMPLETE list of every CD that Computer Works carries, with a
full description and price, please download the file CATALOG.ZIP.  Thank
you for your time.

                       Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!
                       Online Credit Card Ordering Available!
                       [phone] - BBS
                       [phone] - Voice
                       SysOp - Jim Lambert  CoSysOp - Mark Clardy
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From: RENE LINDNER                           Number: 2800
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/01/93  4:41p
Subj: CDROM                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

thanks for the info. will try it.
wbr
rb1
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 2801
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 07/31/93  5:38p
Subj: CDROM Specials                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  BO> ********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials
  BO> *********************
  BO>
  BO> American Premier          Officers Bookcase       Canadian Shareware
  BO> Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler TaxPrep
  BO> '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena Golden Immortal
  BO> Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room Mother Earth II           Quick
  BO> Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8 Chicano Datebase          PC-SIG Games
  BO> LaserTax On CD Phoenix # 3               Jokes&Pranks
  BO> Learning Adventure Business Assistant        World Travler
  BO> Sound Sensation DeathStar Arcade          Colossal CookBook
  BO> ClipArt Goliath Technotools               Our Solar System
  BO> Windoware
  BO>

Boris, which of these are MAC compatible?...m2

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2802
  To: DAVE PERKOVICH                           Date: 08/02/93 12:07p
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Great! I'm assuming that the new GUI will be D/L-able from your BBS for owners
of the current release (?) .

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2803
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 08/02/93 12:11p
Subj: Busty babes, before 3                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Very interesting, Jerry! I don't frequent hamfests mainly cuz they're always
on the other side of town - and in Houston that can easily be 50 miles away. I
have a copy of the "original" BB, but when I was looking hard for one, many
others said they were interested as well. Maybe the hamfest CD sellers should
get themselves on to this here echo (:>

73, AG5X

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2804
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 08/02/93 12:16p
Subj: cd's shipping to canada??               Refer: NONE
Read: 08/04/93  6:34a                       Private: No

This is an insightful reply, Tim. Clearly you've given the topic some thought
and I for one very much appreciate that effort instead of the too often
knee-jerk response (not only on FidoNet but also Cserve, etc.). I agree that
specific discussion of the "merits" of any particular part of an adult CD (say
some specific GIF) would be out of scope for the echo. I've tried to keep my
"reviews" on a plane that would be in concert with the guidelines you've
established. Let me know if I stray too far. Cheers!

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 2805
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 08/02/93  8:20a
Subj: CDT = CD'S, TRAVEL                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Pete, I will be at COMDEX this year.  Never missed one since they held them in
Dallas texas.

BOB


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2806
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  6:46a
Subj: Toshiba SCSI CDROM                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1. Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM in a External 5 1/4, Half Height Enclosure with
   power cable, two Centronics 50 connectors on enclosure for I/O, and 90-
   240 VAC universal input.  $215.00 with caddy.

2.  Toshiba XM-3201 CD-ROM Internal.  $190.00 with caddy.

Features: DIP switches for ID, Parity, and Arbitration, 50 pin SCSI,
  300ms/156k rates, external headphone/volume, Newest EPROM, Refurbished,
  64k buffer. ** Warranty **

205-837-5053




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From: TERRY WOODWARD                         Number: 2807
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 07/31/93  6:41p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

VS>->                  ****  Four-Star Enterprises  ****
VS>->                        Custom CDROM Service

**************100 deleted lines **********

VS> Give me a call at (305)7822631 when you are accepting 5.25 scsi tapes
VS>That's what my favorite .gifs are backed up on 400 megs

Vito,
Please don't quote 100 lines to leave a two line message, especially in
an international echo. It makes me look like my users are neophytes. ;-)


 * QMPro 1.0 90-2031 * North and south to Key Largo, love for sale..


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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 2808
  To: ZACHARY HAMM                             Date: 08/01/93 12:54a
Subj: DISTRIB. WANTED.                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (29 Jul 93) Zachary Hamm wrote to All...

 ZH>
 ZH> Does anybody have the name and number for comptuer hardware and
 ZH> hardware
 ZH> distibutors?  I'm currently reselling through Merisel and am getting
 ZH> killed by the competition!
 ZH>
 ZH> Zack hamm
 ZH>
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 ZH>  * Origin: Micro Message Service NCRTP [phone] TBBS 2.2M

If your are interested, we can set you up as a Reseller. Send
your requests to:

The Storage Specialists
9400 W. 51st Avenue
Arvada CO 80002
Atten: Paul Sedillo

Our specialty is storage devices (Hard Drives, CD-Roms...). We
also specialize in the whole eSoft, TBBS product line if you
need that product as well.

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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 2809
  To: BOB BROCK                                Date: 08/01/93  1:05a
Subj: Wanted Hard Drive(s)                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (29 Jul 93) Bob Brock wrote to All...

 BB> I am looking for a new drive(s) from 680 Meg to 1.2 Gig IDE. drive
 BB> only!
 BB> The most i can get in a 1 or 2 drive pair, shipping included for
 BB> $700.00 NEW!
 BB> Tell me the BEST deal you can make, these will be upgradeing my BBS, i
 BB> am a
 BB> SysOp and i have posted in SysOp Sales area without responce from
 BB> anyone,
 BB> things that make you go Hmmmmmm. Claims made in that Sub are SysOp's
 BB> get
 BB> better deals but when it comes down to it seems everybody ignores your
 BB>
 BB> messages... Well lets see if anyone here can meet my needs! I have
 BB> $700.00
 BB> maybe a bit more for a REAL deal NET MAIL ME at 1:273/926 with your
 BB> Qoute's
 BB> I will not jump on the first thing coming in fact i will take no
 BB> longer than
 BB> the end of August to get any responces before i decide so let's
 BB> DEAL!!!
 BB> I check these messages daily but prefer PRIVATE if you can, it's more
 BB> direct!

Bob:

The drive that I recomend for that price range is:

-=- Seagate ST4766
-=- 660MB
-=- Full Height
-=- 14ms/SCSI
-=- $800.00

I seriously doubt that you can beat that price for a new
Seagate. If you are inerested contact me at:

The Storage Specialists
303.940.7115
Paul Sedillo

We Accept MasterCard/Visa, plus we will ship COD.
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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 2810
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 07/28/93  1:04p
Subj: ADULT CD-ROMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS> Starting July 24th, you can get an extra bonus: your
MS> copy will be hand-signed by moi, since I'm one of the
MS> Canadian models <g>!      (Yes, I go all the way!)

Oh great, I can see trying to get the disks back across the border into
the US! <g> <sigh>

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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 2811
  To: QUOC DO                                  Date: 08/01/93  3:29p
Subj: Re: New hard drives                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (31 Jul 93) Quoc Do wrote to Leo Zahariadis...

 QD> WD2340 & Maxtor 7345A
 QD>
 QD> Is the Western Digital really that much faster than the Maxtor?  What
 QD> is the throughput on each drive?

Western Digital from what the trade rags say, is on it's last
leg. As far as the WD2340 being faster than the 7345A, that is
not true.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2812
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 08/02/93  1:56a
Subj: LOWEST $ ON NIGHT OWL 9!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MW>Well, I ordered it from someone at 25.00 but that was more than a week ago,
MW>I prepay with a credit card.. I really don't know what's going on...!!

Well, some dealers claim to have it in stock when they really don't, so
if you can't seem to find one who provides good service ALONG WITH good
prices, give us a try!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2813
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  1:56a
Subj: BUSTY BABES 3.0 IN STOCK!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

___________________________________________________________________________
                    |                                  |
                    O                                  O
                    |                                  |
                +------------------------------------------+
                |  INTRODUCING . . . . . . .               |
                |                                          |
                |       B U S T Y   B A B E S   3.0        |
                |                                          |
                |                 $25.00                   |
                |                                          |
                | She's back, she's better, she's . . . .  |
                | BUSTY BABES 3.0!                         |
                |                                          |
                | New interface + new sizzling pictures!   |
                | Get yours now!  Limited time offer with  |
                | limited quantities.    **  H  O  T  **   |
                +------------------------------------------+

 SPECIAL BONUS:  Get the PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware CD for only $10
                 additional w/ purchase! (Made by Busty's creators)

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2814
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  1:56a
Subj: ADULT CD'S FOR AUGUST                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 August 1993              ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 8/02
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    PC-PIX 3......................30.00
 After Dark Trilogy (New!).....45.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 All Beauties (New!)...........36.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Amateur Models (New!).........35.00    Porkware 2 (New!).............37.00
 Animation Fantasies 1 or 2....29.00    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Busty Babes 2.0...............33.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........29.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........49.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00
 Girls of Vivid (New!).........45.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................29.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................29.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......35.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................29.00    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............29.00    Storm 2.......................28.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00    Storm 3.......................29.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....45.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).49.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 PC-PIX 1......................30.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 PC-PIX 2......................30.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2815
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  1:56a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 PACKAGE DEALS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                       NIGHT OWL VERSION 9 SPECIALS
   *--------------------------------------------------------------------*

     These discs have less than 1% duplication in comparison to previous
     Night Owl CD's, and are EXCLUSIVELY '93 file dates!

     1. Night Owl 9...............................................$33.00

     2. Night Owl 9 with $100+ CD purchase........................$25.00

     3. Night Owl 8 + 9...........................................$55.00

     4. Night Owl 7 + 8 + 9 (less than 1% dupes!).................$69.00

     5. Night Owl 9 + Pier 2......................................$59.00

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2816
  To: ALL CD-ROM                               Date: 08/01/93 10:36a
Subj: Cd-rom drives & bundles                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600
 Mastercard & Visa accepted. Posted on 08/01/93, @ 10:00.

 PROD CODE  PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                         PRICE

 MITSUMICDD CDD - Mitsumi CD-ROM drive                 188.00
 CDR-38     CDD - NEC MiltiSpin 38 portable            354.00
 CDR-74     CDD - NEC MultiSpin 74 external            552.00
 CDR-84     CDD - NEC MultiSpin 84 internal            459.00
 532        CDD - Panasonic 290ms, SCSI-2              362.00
 562        CDD - Panasonic 320ms, double speed        287.00
 522        CDD - Panasonic 380ms/AT bus               211.00
 PHILIPSINT CDD - Philips internal CD-ROM drive        194.00
 CDDDRM600A CDD - Pioneer DRM-600A 6-disk changer      851.00
 CDDDRM604X CDD - Pioneer DRM-604X 6-disk changer     1257.00
 DM3024     CDD - Texel DM3024 internal CD-ROM drive   373.00
 DM5024     CDD - Texel DM5024 CD-ROM drive ext.       467.00
 CDDXM3401B CDD - Toshiba XM3401B internal drive       443.00
 706004701  CDK - Media Vision Fusion Double CD 16     632.00
 3024PAS16  CDK - Texel DM3024 & PAS-16 sound card     542.00
 DM3024BB   CDK - Texel DM3024 int. bus. bundle        647.00
 DM3024MMB2 CDK - Texel DM3024 int. M/M bundle         808.00
 DM3024EB   CDK - Texel DM3024 internal ed. bundle     577.00
 DM3024/CB2 CDK - Texel DM3024 internal home bundle    543.00
 5024PAS16  CDK - Texel DM5024 & PAS-16 sound card     659.00
 5024T348   CDK - Texel DM5024 & T-348 par. SCSI       592.00
 5024T130   CDK - Texel DM5024 Cd-ROM & T-130 SCSI     526.00
 DM5024BB   CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. bus. bundle        727.00
 DM5024EB   CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. ed. bundle         693.00
 DM5024/CB2 CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. home bundle        635.00
 DM5024MMB2 CDK - Texel DM5024 ext. M/M bundle         912.00
 DM3024T130 CDK - Texel int. DM3024 & T130 SCSI        453.00

 Prices & spec's subject to change without notice. Best time to
 call: 7-10 AM & 9-12 PM Mon - Fri, all day Sat & Sun (EASTERN)


===
 * RM 1.0 B0391 * Please see our complete list in the FOR SALE conferences.


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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2817
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/01/93  5:35p
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Bottom  line: I'll probably wait and work through the titles I'm
-> interested in  with Mike Shannon one or two at a time over then next
-> several weeks.

OIC....

Well, in that case, I'll be awaiting your reviews.....

===
 * RM 1.0 B0391 * Please see our complete list in the FOR SALE conferences.


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From: ALLAN KENNEDY                          Number: 2818
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  4:53p
Subj: WANT TO SWAP                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I would like to get a faster cd-rom. I have the folowing items to trade.
1. mitsumi cd-rom 800 ms 8 months old w/8bit card & cables
2. generic super vga card w/512 k mem unused
3. generic 2400 internal modem used
4. segate st238r rll hard drive 33 mb unused (no rails)
5. western digital wd1002a-27x rll controller w/cables unused
6. ms doss 5 still in shrink wrap (archie technologies)
7. ms windows 3.1 shrink pack opened disk pack never opened.

I would prefer less than 400 ms must be complete with all cables and card. If
you are interested leave me a message here or net mail me at 1:2602/120

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2819
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/01/93  1:10p
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Doug,
    How much do you sell it for?  Do you have NightOwl 9 for $25 as for
thats what I really want to buy now?
                             Thanks,
                                  Sam Figueroa
                                  Sam's Software
                                  [phone]
                Manchester's Best Shareware Distributer!!!

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From: BOB TRUBE                              Number: 2820
  To: QMAIL                                    Date: 08/02/93  6:40p
Subj: DROP                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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From: BOB TRUBE                              Number: 2821
  To: QMAIL                                    Date: 08/02/93  6:40p
Subj: DROP                                    Refer: NONE
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From: ZACH WELBURN                           Number: 2822
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/02/93 10:24p
Subj: CDROM Specials                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hey i am interested in between heaven and hell 2
phoenix #3
shareware studio2 if you still have them let me know

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From: MIKE JORDAN                            Number: 2823
  To: RICHARD NIXON                            Date: 08/02/93 11:09p
Subj: CD WORLD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > If you are in the market for CDs, you should consider
 > buying from
 > CD WORLD.  I ordered some caddies from them a week ago
 > and, with a week,
 > they arrived.  Excellent service!

 > The address is:

 > CD WORLD
 > 2650 Wedgefield Road
 > Sumter, SC 29154

 > 803-481-2276  BBS: 803-481-7149

 > David, thanks for sending the caddies, I look forward
 > to doing business
 > with you again soon!



  I'll second the great service from David McSpadden of CD-World.  We did some
business about a month ago and I had the two disks I got from him in just a
couple of days. Great Service as well as great prices.  It's good to see other
people are using him with good results as well.


Mike

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2824
  To: LEN BUSSEY                               Date: 08/03/93 12:29a
Subj: RE:cd Swap                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Len,
    Nautilus CD is a multimedia cd, which must run in Windows and have a
few .AVI's, a version of Mediablitz, a version of Video for Windows and
a few other things like the Time Almanac, and PC Karaoke.  Not all of
these are the full blown things but its pretty good to see the videos!
Starvector 208 is a shareware cd with 208 meg of shareware! Its not all
that bad for a small cd!
                                  Sam Figueroa
                                  Sam's Software
                                  [phone]
                         Manchester's Best Shareware Distributer!!!
       Do you have anything else to trade!

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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 2825
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  8:08p
Subj: Southern Beauties                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          **********  Graphical Images of Florida, Inc. **********
             Announces The NEW RELEASE of   "Southern Beauties"
                A FULLY COMMERCIAL - FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC

675 Megs-OVER 65 Top Models-1000 GIFs-1024x768x256 From Original 35mm Slides
300 Megs of the Best Images in 24 bit True Color. Installs Quickly and Easily
- Menu Driven - User Friendly - Popup Help Menus - Mouse Support -
Keyword Search - Sound Blaster Front Loader - Multiple Directory Slide Show
*************** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS ***************

To Order Contact: Faye Sharp at Tradeshows Inc. 317-651-9848 or 317-651-1223

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2826
  To: RON MITCHELL                             Date: 08/01/93 10:29a
Subj: Re: CD's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> the Shareware Studio Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 and my CD won't read them
> except on a hit or miss basis.  Now I'm kind of scared to buy any more
> CDs until I know what's going on. Now for the questions:
Dear Ron,
Due to price cutting war among the some replicating houses, some of the disks
have been shipped out without proper check or warranty. Therefor several of the
existing disks don't meet the ORANGE Book specs. If you have any disk that
doesn't read on your Mitsumi or any other drive, check the disk yet. If your
problem continue, please mail the disks to us and we will get them verified for
you. TTYL

GroupWare

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2827
  To: JAMES PRICE                              Date: 07/31/93  5:26p
Subj: CD-ROM CACHING????                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Is there a program that will Cache my CD-rom and my hard drive also??
Yes, Pckwik will do it. Most software vendors have it, just ask around.

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: JACKIE ROGERS                          Number: 2828
  To: RON MITCHELL                             Date: 08/01/93  4:23p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Jackie Rogers <07-30-93 21:15> Ron Mitchell wrote:

RM> I picked up on a similar thread the other day, and since I'm having a
RM> problem reading the Shareware Studio Vols 1&2 I called the dealer
RM> where I got my Mitsumi.  He informed me that this is BS(I think he is
RM> waffling).

The Mitsumi's, at such a low price, are a high-volume item for many dealers.
They do not want this information to reach the market, in fear of sales
dropping off.  Your best bet would be to call Mitsumi's technical support
staff directly, and hopefully, they will give you the truth.  My personal
feelings are that Mitsumi will deny the problem exists, while updating their
controller at the same time.

RM> So now I'm real confused.
RM>
RM> Where and how do I get more info?  Is Mitsumi going to give
RM> an upgrade to owners of their drives?  My unit is still under
RM> warranty, so I would think that Mitsumi would owe me a correction.

See above reply... and good luck.

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2829
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 08/01/93  7:15a
Subj: Sound blaster                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Doesn't anyone know the command to turn on the Soundblaster
-> to send a sound source directly through it (such as the CD)
You are referring to the 'mixer'.
The command on mine is mix x (x=on or off)
Example: Mix on
maybe yours is drifferent, can't hurt to try :)

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: ALEX MAHAN                             Number: 2830
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  1:41p
Subj: Communications-Games                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Has anybody seen a cd-rom with lots of communication-bbs stuff, along
with games and music? Ill pay up to $30 for one, maybe $40. Also, is
anybody else into SB/VGA demos? I havent been able to find a good cd
with that stuff on. Thanks, ALex


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From: BOB TRUBE                              Number: 2831
  To: QMAIL                                    Date: 08/03/93  2:07a
Subj: DROP                                    Refer: NONE
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From: BOB TRUBE                              Number: 2832
  To: QMAIL                                    Date: 08/03/93  2:07a
Subj: ADD                                     Refer: NONE
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From: BOB TRUBE                              Number: 2833
  To: QMAIL                                    Date: 08/03/93  2:07a
Subj: DROP                                    Refer: NONE
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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 2834
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  1:14p
Subj: TCM/Night Owl Newsletter.               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*@SUBJECT:TCM/Night Owl Newsletter...                                 N
                       Night Owl Shareware

TCM Computing and Night Owl Publishers, Inc. are currently working on
several joint projects in order to make available the very best in
CD-ROM Shareware.  Based on the rave reviews and comments we have
received about version 9, we are succeeding in that goal.  We have
several new products under development which we are very excited about.

TCM periodically sends out a newsletter to let our customers know about
upcoming releases and other news relating to Night Owl.  We also offer
those receiving the newsletter substantial discounts on Night Owl CDs
(and occasionally on PC hardware).  YOU MUST BE ON OUR MAILING LIST
TO RECEIVE THESE DISCOUNTS.

We will be sending out another newsletter (with some special announcements
and offers) in about a month.  For those of you who have received the
newsletter in the past, and those who have purchased any products from TCM,
you are on our mailing list.

If you are NOT on our mailing list, but would like to get the latest
Night Owl news (along with info on discounts we do not advertise in
the e-mail nets), you may do one of the following:

    - leave a message here with your name & address
    - call our BBS and leave a message to the sysop
    - send us a Fax with your n/a
    - call our voice line (leave the info on our machine if we
      aren't around)
    - Drop us a line via US Mail

TCM has been affliated with Night Owl for more than 3 years now.  We
have been active in the actual preparation of all disks since v3.
If you want the latest news and deals on Night Owl, get on our mailing
list!

         TCM BBS - Official Night Owl Support Board

       Authorized Distributor (call for volume pricing)

TCM Computing                                       [phone]
Rt. 2 Box 130                                       [phone] Fax
Midland, Va.  22728                                 [phone] BBS
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From: BRENT CRIGHTON                         Number: 2835
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/01/93  9:55a
Subj: Cd's wanted                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

does anyone know if there has ever been a "chilton's" guide to part, interfaces
and other proprietary stuff for pc's, mini's, and or main frames.

what I would like is a guide, that I could use to identify various computer
parts and know what whey were used for and what they will work with, similar to
a car parts chilton's guide.

BTW has anyone put out a phone list cd for canadian numbers, i heard bell was
going to but cannot track it down

If you can solve my delemma please call voice 2049812294 or fax [phone]

"the only difference between a computer salesman and a car salesman is that
the car salesman KNOWS he's lying"


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From: MIKE ROBINSON                          Number: 2836
  To:                                          Date: 08/02/93 10:55a
Subj: Chestnut cd's...$10! 1/2                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* Original From: Mike Shannon (1:348/706)
* Original To  : Dave Kalwishky (1:348/501)

DK>DK>MS>  ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  Pier 2 only $30
with
DK>DK>  >  any Chestnut purchase!

DK>Ok Mike, $10 is coming at ya!!

Great!  Got 'em in stock Dave!

z u later,
.\\ike

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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2837
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93 10:10a
Subj: OS/2 CDROM drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        I'm looking to buy a OS/2 2.1 compatible CDROM drive. It doesn't
 matter whether it's internal or external, buy I'd really prefer a caddy
 drive. Or at least one that is automatic. The one I use right now is
 horrible for switching CDs! Of course, I'd like it to be a bit
 fast <= 350ms. Please, let me know if anyone has one for sale. If you
 can get me a good price, I'll buy it in a second!
                                                        Edward

... REAL programmers use: "COPY CON FILENAME.EXE"
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From: BENJAMIN KEEN                          Number: 2838
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/02/93  9:50p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I went down to my computer store and I found an Apple CD 300 (Sony mech,
double speed, multisession, etc) for $429, (w/o cables or terminator, but
w/ software, 9 sample cds, a caddy, and someone to yell at if something
goes wrong) Do you have an external doublespeed SCSI CD-ROM for anywhere
around this price? (or in the next couple mo's when I intend on buying) I
know Macs aren't your specialty, but I was just wondering. BTW, thanks for
the information on that external NEC. For your files, my address is
1528 Autumn Rd
CHarleston, WV 25314-2306
-Ben


 * Freddie 1.2.5 * DTE: 9600, DCE: 2400, BKK(Ben Keen to Keyboard): 37

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 2839
  To: DON HANCOCK                              Date: 08/02/93 10:17p
Subj: Red Hot Summer                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DH> Expecially xBase and
 DH>         C/C++.
Leave your address, and I'll send you a brochure for EMS Professional
Shareware's July'93 C/C++ and Xbase CD-ROM libraries. The C/C++ has 987
products, the Xbase has 2983. Each has a database describing the products and
all known commercial products, as well as a huge database of 120,000 records
listing all know PC HW/SW producers and the products they make.
Voice:301-924-3594 fax:[phone] EMail:[e-mail]
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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 2840
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  4:57p
Subj: Offline - REALLY!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have been off-line in the worst possible sense.  During my tune-up
sessions Saturday, I kept getting messages about Drive C, and to
hit any key when corrected.

Finally, it just gave the message that my "HDD controller" was not
responding.  I had just put in a new EISA 32 bit card for my new
486 mamma board, and apparently either the sucker died, or the OS/2
sessions killed it (maybe it committed suicide - I have thought about it
since working with a whole new system).

Be that as it may, I still - luckily - had my old HDD controller in
the case with my replaced 386.  I swapped it and re-installed my OS/2
and reloaded most of my essential subdirectories.  I also 'dropped'
my DR DOS and decided to bite the bullet and  jump in with only OS/2.

I am now running my previous stuff in a DOS window, in OS/2 and it seems
to work so far.

I lost several messages, and all the replies I had in progress, due to
the HDD controller flakiness, and my novice attempts to use an icon from
BlueWave in the OS/2 desktop.  Wiped out my Subdirectory with BlueWave,
so got to reload that (and also reset all my pointers and directories,
since it had been on just a C: drive, now my OS/2 system is on C: and
my data and programs on D:.  Fun, fun.

Bottom line.  If you have sent me a message since friday, please re-send.
I tried to reset my pointers in the conferences I usually read, but might
have missed one, or more.  Thanks.




... Every Silver Lining Has a Cloud
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2841
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  8:59a
Subj: MIX or MATCH                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Canadian Shareware      Ultimate Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
PC-SIG Games              LaserTax On CD          Phoenix # 3
Jokes&Pranks              Learning Adventure      Business Assistant
World Travler             Sound Sensation         DeathStar Arcade
Colossal CookBook         ClipArt Goliath         Technotools
Our Solar System          Bible & Religion

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 2842
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  9:03a
Subj: Visual Basic Shareware CD-ROM           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its Visual Basic CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a
dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
425 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:[phone], EMail:[e-mail]
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From: JOEY RATZSCH                           Number: 2843
  To: JOHN ANDERSON                            Date: 07/31/93 12:32a
Subj: CD-ROMs For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JA> Used CD-ROMs For Sale:
 JA>
 JA> Maniac Mansion 2: Day Of The Tentacle - $40
 JA> Loom - $15
 JA> The 7th Guest - $25
 JA> Infocom Treasure Chest - $20
 JA>
 JA> Call [phone] in your interested, or send Netmail to John
 JA> Anderson  @ 1:396/1

Intersted in trading at all?  Will trade CD-ROM disks for 7th Guest.
Or other stuff.  Send NetMail to me at 1:154/123 for list and info on
stuff to trade.

Joey

... To steal this tagline press <CTL> <ALT> <DEL> now.
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From: JOEY RATZSCH                           Number: 2844
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93 10:26p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I would like to trade some CD-ROM disks for a copy of 7th guest.
If intereseted, drop me a line and you can see whats avalible.  If you want
to buy them, I am also selling them.
Later
Joey

... If this were an actual tagline, it _might_ be funny.
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 2845
  To: MICHAEL MULCAHY                          Date: 08/02/93  6:56p
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Pls add me to your Mailing List.
->
Hi Michael!
    I most certainly will... our next mailout will be within two weeks.

     Vince
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 2846
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 08/02/93  7:00p
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Hi there,  do you have Space Quest 4/Kings Quest for abouut 35.00?
Yes we do... S/H is $2 via Canada Post... give Michellea or myself a
call at 306-789-4654. You can also order online on our BBS at
306-789-8682 or fax us at 306-789-8690.
   Vince
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From: DAN APPLEHANS                          Number: 2847
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  1:46a
Subj: Matsushita CD-Rom drive wanted...       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am searching for a matsushita cd-rom drive.  Actually, I am searching for any
drive that will interface with A creative Labs SoundBlaster pro.  From what I
understand, few drives will interface With the SoundBlaster Pro card, (some
Signature, or something.)  Any information regarding this little dilemma would
be appreciated, and offers also.
Reply here, or call [phone] Most anytime.

               -=Dan=-

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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 2848
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  9:42a
Subj: Catalogs                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Well, I'm not sure what happened, but a few weeks ago I posted my
address requesting CD-ROM catalogs from echo vendors. Nary a one has
shown up in my mailbox. Seeing how responsive y'all are normally I
figure it went into that great bit-bucket in the sky....Take 2:

S. Kiser
318 Gaylord Dr.
Loveland, CO 80537                        Thanks

 * SLMR 2.1a * Next packet: Knitting wool dresses for boll weevils!


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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 2849
  To: BOB ROSOL                                Date: 08/02/93 10:06a
Subj: NEW Corel ArtShow 3 CD &                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BR> Latest Corel ArtShow 3

BR>           >> Still Sealed-- BRAND NEW <<

BR>           $25 + UPS


Bob, I'm very interested in this disk, how would you like to proceeed
from here?

 * SLMR 2.1a * Life is short, Death is long. Take a vacation.


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From: PAUL DIESTELHORST                      Number: 2850
  To: DAVID BALNITES                           Date: 08/03/93  3:01p
Subj: CD File Descriptions                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to all, David Balnites said:

 >  * Forwarded from "CD-ROM Talk"
 >  * Originally by David Balnites
 >  * Originally to All
 >  * Originally dated 22 Jul 1993, 4:18

 > I am thinking of buying Night Owl 9 and i was wondering if
 > there is a utility
 > that will convert the PCBoard type multi-line Descriptions
 > into the new RemoteAccess 2.00g1 type multi-line
 > Descriptions.

 > I do know that the descriptions have to be all on 1 line to
 > use the import function with RA.

 >                         David

No they don't. Try using Genfbase and it will import multilines. I have Night
Owl 9 it's great.

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From: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                      Number: 2851
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/02/93 10:08p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD'S                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm interested in Afterdark Trilogy ($45). And Seedy-ROM movie disc also ($45).
Is there sound to these? and what resolution do they appear in?
I'd like to know if you accept moneyorders. If so ten I'll make a descision
between the two...maybe even both.

Please respond to my concerns. Thank you!!


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2852
  To: RON MITCHELL                             Date: 08/02/93 11:49p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Where and how do I get more info?  Is Mitsumi going to give
> an upgrade to owners of their drives?  My unit is still under warranty,
> so
> I would think that Mitsumi would owe me a correction.
Dear Ron,
There is always possiblity for a faulty drive. However, I do have serious
concerns over the advices given by some individuals. Infact I personaly know
that some of them never seen a Mitsumi drive. I know it is sad but true. If you
have more question ect. give me a call and I try to help you or you can call
the nearest Mitsumi technical support line and you can get your questions
answered. TTYL

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 2853
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93 12:45a
Subj: Liquadation Discs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD-PowerBox $12 (General Shareware)
CD-WinBox $12 (Windows Shareware)

If you are interested, you can order from:

GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd. Tacoma, WA 98409
TEL [phone] or 1-800-373-0628
FAX [phone] or 1-800-277-5179

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From: MIKE WALKER                            Number: 2854
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/31/93 12:10a
Subj: Looking                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Is there such a CD-ROM out there with just Celebrities?  I don't mind if
they are riskey (sp?)

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From: ROBERT NELSON                          Number: 2855
  To: TERRY MCDILL                             Date: 08/01/93  9:18p
Subj: Re: The 7th Guest and Mitsumi CD-Roms   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Terry Mcdill to All <=-

 TM> Hi, all!

 TM> I just purchased a Mitusmi CD-Rom and was wondering if this drive
 TM> would support the game "The 7th Guest". The other equipment is able to


I am playing it with mine.


... I'd rather ride the Wave than wallow in QWKsand!
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From: LEE MILLIGAN                           Number: 2856
  To: JAMES PRICE                              Date: 08/04/93  2:36a
Subj: CD-ROM CACHING????                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, James Price said:
 > Is there a major <if any> improvement in caching a CD-rom
 > with 435 ms
 > access time and 150kb transfer rate???

 > Is there a program that will Cache my CD-rom and my hard
 > drive also??

 > Saw a public domain program, but it wouldn't work.  I think
 > it said
 > something about the trial period expired.
 >
 > If you use a Cache on your drive, please send me a note on
 > how you
 > like it...
 >

 >
 > Thanks in advance.




 > ---
 >  * WinQwk 2.0b#872 * 20/20 BBS  Chicago
 > [e-mail]

 > --- TMail v1.31.5
 >  * Origin: * 20/20 TBBS * 312-769-1227 @2400 * 275-1785 @9600
 > (1:115/769)
Try Norton Speed Cache....it allows both Hard Drive and CD-ROM
caching.......works good on my system....(I've got a Panasonic 350 ms)...
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From: LEE MILLIGAN                           Number: 2857
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 08/04/93  2:40a
Subj: Adult Titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to JOHN ROBINSON, Dave Reed said:
 > Hello JOHN!

 > Sunday July 25 1993, JOHN ROBINSON writes to JACKIE ROGERS:

 > JR>> Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS

 > JR> Nice prices...........

 > JR>> ... If Clinton is the answer, it must have been a stupid question!

 > JR> Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

 > I'm proud of her.  As more of the silent majority become
 > vocal about their political feelings, Clinton's going to feel
 > like a little man in a big house, real soon now.  At this
 > rate, I'll be able to publish a CD-ROM full of Clinton's
 > mistakes by the end of summer.  He's such a joke, I'll have
 > to market it as a comedy, though.  ;-)


 > ... My Broad Based Contribution - Kick Hillory in the butt!

 > --- QuickBBS 2.80 (Gamma-2)
 >  * Origin: The CrossRoads BBS <THE Source for Programmers!>
 > (1:344/79)
'Scuse me for butting in....but let me know when you compile that 'Clinton's
Mistakes' CD......I would like to purchase one......thanks...
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From: MIKE JORDAN                            Number: 2858
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  8:23p
Subj: Looking to Trade Doors for CD Disks     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  I'm a door author with 6 doors out (Peg-Jump, Booby Trap, Hot-Dice, Knight's
Move, Chuck-A-Luck and Tri-Bingo) and am looking to increase my collection of
two CD Disks for my BBS. I would like to offer registration of any of my doors
in trade for CD Disks.  I currently have WinBox and Shareware Vault 2 and would
like to get a few more of the general shareware CDs available (like the new
Night Owl 9, one of the ones with a programming theme or ones like that). I'm
not interested in the R and X rated CDs as my BBS is geared to family,
programming, BBS and gaming but would consider any of the non-BBS business type
CDs (US Census, Zip codes, addresses, etc.)

  If you are interested you can Netmail me at 105/314, 105/317 or 105/330 with
what you have and I'll send back the details of my games.  Or leave me a
message with how to get in touch with you and I'll do that


Thanks

Mike

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2859
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  3:05p
Subj: Sierra CD's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Okay, who can give me the best price on King's Quest 5, Space Quest 4,
Willie Beamish and Dagger of Amon Ra?
Sierra wants $25 a piece to upgrade from floppy version :(
I have all the manuals boxes etc...
Either a separate bundle, or trade for floppy version and some $
Somone please help!

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: ZACH WELBURN                           Number: 2860
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/03/93 10:51p
Subj: CD'S ON SALE!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DO YOU HAVE SHAREWARE OVERLOAD LEFT I AM INTERESTED IN BUYING IF YOU STILL HAVE
IT
/S

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2861
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  1:45a
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

)))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.

                      PRICE - $25.00

To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2862
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  1:46a
Subj: Mix Or Match                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Canadian Shareware      Ultimate Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
PC-SIG Games              LaserTax On CD          Phoenix # 3
Jokes&Pranks              Learning Adventure      Business Assistant
World Travler             Sound Sensation         DeathStar Arcade
Colossal CookBook         ClipArt Goliath         Technotools
Our Solar System          Bible & Religion

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

... Oh never mind!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2863
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  1:46a
Subj: CDROM SPECIALS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2864
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  1:46a
Subj: RED HOT                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2865
  To: LARRY CHARPIAT                           Date: 08/03/93  1:46a
Subj: Re: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Can the Pioneer six disk changers access the six different CD
>>    ROM disk through a BBS menu with a software switch or command?


You can only access one disk at a time !!

Most Sysops use a door that allows thier users to access the filebase
and when thier ready, the door moves the file to a downloadable area
and then allows the next user to access download mode. This users access
to all the file areas with very little slow down of the system.

Interested in any additional information, please give us a call and we'll
be happy to help you further.

Boris Osadciw

... I'm too sexy! You know what I mean!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2866
  To: DON HANCOCK                              Date: 08/03/93  1:46a
Subj: Re: Red Hot Cd'S                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>>$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

BO>> ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec

>>        Hi Boris. I'm looking for virtually any programming CD's
>>        and this looks like about the most I'd pay. However, I
>>        don't know ANY of the available CD's. I got Source CD-ROM
>>        Mar'92 with my CD, but it stinks. I'm particularly
>>        interested in C, C++, Clipper and dBASE files. My
>>        father-in-law is interested in Pascal. What kind of files
>>        (and their numbers) are on this and other disks? Looking
>>        to add 3 or 4 more to my collection. Thanx for any info....

The cd contains over 15,000 files and is 360+ megs in size. It has
everything you meantioned above and more. It even contains articials
and refreance material as well and even some MAC files.

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to help you out.

Boris Osadciw

... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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From: LOUIS SOKOL                            Number: 2867
  To: PAUL SEDILLO                             Date: 08/03/93  5:55p
Subj: DISTRIB. WANTED.                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Paul, I am a TBBS sysop...please send me info on your eSoft line as well as
other hardware and software.  I also have had a problem with Merisel wanting to
charge me more as a reseller than I can buy it for retail off the
street....such a deal.
* SPITFIRE v3.3
* Database Connections BBS * Supporting dBASE, Clipper, and More!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2868
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  6:04p
Subj: Review of Pork-Ware II                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     Once again, many thanks to Mike Shannon of Starvector for providing
     a copy of an adult CD for review.  This time it's Pork-Ware II.  Us
     CUSTOMERS should thank Mike (and others) for providing a valuable
     service: the ability to get an inside look at a CD BEFORE plunking
     down "the necessary" and thereby perhaps avoiding a disappointment
     to us and a hassle for the vendor.

     As with past reviews, I'll evaluate the CD from three different
     aspects: statistics (numerical data relative to the physical contents
     of the CD), operations (aspects of the CD that affect convenience and
     usability), and visual (the esthetic merits of the CD's imagery).
     Each aspect of the review will be posted as a separate message on this
     echo.

     Statistics
     ==========

     Pork-Ware II (PW2) has 3308 GIF images on it, plus 100+ "animation"
     files.  The CD has 24 image directories, "X01" through "X23" for GIFs
     and "X24" for the animations.  While the image directory names don't
     give a clue to their contents, in fact the 23 GIF directories are
     divided along subject matter lines.  Compared to PW1, PW2 adds
     directories for the animations, males, and group shots, but deletes
     the Targa directory found on PW1.  There are also some minor directory
     name changes from PW1, but essentially the imagery organization
     between the two CDs is identical.

     There is a total 606,421,814 bytes across the 3308 GIF files making an
     average of 183,319 bytes per GIF.  I could find NO duplicate file
     names on the CD, but I did discover several duplicate files through
     electronic audit and browsing.  Based on those activities, my guess
     would be that there's about 1% GIF file duplication within the CD
     itself. However, when compared to my GIF name data base, of the 3308
     GIFs on PW2, I found 3269 name matches - a "hit" factor of 99%!!
     Something's very wrong here.  From their respective names, one would
     assume that PW2 was published after PW1.  Indeed, the file name
     comparison showed no duplication between them.  However, in my review
     of PW1, I found only a 41% hit factor.  Perhaps PW1's success led it's
     producers to become overly aggressive or perhaps somewhat lax in
     acquiring scans for PW2.  There doesn't seem to be an original GIF on
     it.  The hit list is as follows:

         Seedy 6-Pak    3132                7th Heaven       0
         Busty Babes 1   114                Busty Babes 3  230
         Ecstasy         182                FAO-2          170
         FAO-3           239                FAO-GOLD       211
         PCPIX-1         186                PCPIX-2        557
         PCPIX-3          89                Visual Fntsy   253
         PW1               0                Storm-3        366

     I didn't unzip and view all of the 100+ animation files on PW2, but
     going by their file names, one could expect a similar "re-hash" factor
     among them as well.


     Operations to follow...





























































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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2869
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  6:05p
Subj: Review of Pork-Ware II (con't)          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     Operations
     ==========

     PW2 came with the same 3-1/2" support disk that was packaged with PW1.
     It's interesting to note that the installation instructions printed on
     the jewel box insert do not mention this diskette, and in fact
     describe an entirely separate and disparate installation procedure.

     Like PW1, both CSHOW and VPIC are on the CD, but installation from the
     support diskette forces VPIC as the default viewer.  A rather weak
     attempt at video auto-configuration is attempted via WHICHVGA.
     Apparently the supplied version of this video BIOS-peeking program is
     somewhat dated (like PW2's GIFs) as it failed to correctly recognize
     and configure VPIC for my S3-based board. (In contrast, SHOWOFF on
     Busty Babes Rel. 3 did auto-configure itself correctly for my video
     setup so I know it can be done.).  If you have an older board, say
     TS-4000 or before, then you'd probably get a good hint from WHICHVGA
     that would let you complete installation OK.

     Installation ends with the copying of VIEWPORK.BAT to your DOS
     directory (if you choose).  Typing in VIEWPORK will cause a .BAT-file
     generated menu to appear from which a viewing selection from the
     directories can be made.  Since I use neither CSHOW nor VPIC on a
     regular basis, I found the VIEWPORK.BAT file most handy for clipping
     out and saving the "directory menu" for use when viewing PW2 files.

     There are some file description files on PW2.  They are in the LIST
     directory and are called "X01.DIR" and so forth.  I'm not sure what
     BBS format that nomenclature or the internal format of the contents
     represents, but the file descriptions appeared to be fairly accurate
     accounts of the files' contents.  What was poor was that the
     correspondence between the .DIR files and the actual directory names
     was wrong except for two directories.  The real correspondence is as
     follows:

         .DIR file   (REALLY goes with)     Directory
         ---------                          ---------

         X01                                X13
         X02                                X23
         X03                                X21
         X04                                X20
         X05                                X22
         X06                                X03
         X07                                X01
         X08                                X05
         X09                                X04
         X10                                X10 (CORRECT)
         X11                                X19
         X12                                X08
         X13                                X07
         X14                                X09
         X15                                X06
         X16                                X12
         X17                                X11
         X18                                X02
         X19                                X14
         X20                                X15
         X21                                X16
         X22                                X17
         X23                                X18
         X24                                X24  (CORRECT)

     Visual to follow...




















































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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2870
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  6:06p
Subj: Review of Pork-Ware II (con'c)          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     Visual
     ======

     Like its predecessor, PW2 is a full-blown "X" CD with a smorgasbord of
     subject matter, and nothing really on the fringe.  What makes it a bit
     unusual is the inclusion of a directory (X13) of nude male GIFs.
     Beyond that, if you already own at least one of the comparison CDs,
     there's nothing in PW2 that you haven't seen before, subject-wise.  If
     you own the Seedy ROM series, you LITERALLY have seen it all before or
     at least have access to it.

     The quality (i.e. sharpness, etc.) of most of the scans was pretty
     good although some images clearly looked like second or third
     generation copies of the original.  I don't understand this,
     particularly with such a high re-hash factor.  I could (and did) find
     better images of the same scan on my Seedy ROM CDs.  Some of the
     poorer GIFs were recognizable as cropped portions of the original scan
     which had been "zoomed" to full-screen size and thereby lost some
     sharpness.  Others, for example the "Fourth of July at Lake Tahoe"
     series, were just plain blurry - cause unknown.

     I would also mention that of the 39 file names that weren't "hits" in
     the file name data base, visual inspection revealed that 27 of them
     were indeed "old friends" sporting different names.  Bottom line: at
     best there's about 12 "new" files on this CD.  That makes them cost
     about $2 each at current street prices.  Given that, the very high
     re-hash factor, and the mixed-up file listings, I can't recommend PW2
     as a good value.  Any of the comparison CDs would be a much better
     choice.

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... deny thy father and forget thy tagline.
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From: DAVID BALNITES                         Number: 2871
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 08/03/93  9:32p
Subj: TCM/Night Owl Newsletter.               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >     - leave a message here with your name & address

Please include me on your mailing list

David Balnites
1400 La Sierra Rd.
Fort Worth, Tx 76134


... Captain, The mains are OFFLINE and I cant send Starfleet a message!
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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 2872
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93 10:15a
Subj: SegaCD's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello!
 I have the following SegaCD's for trade(for PC Compatible CD-Rom's) or sale:


Sega Classic's (Streets of Rage,Revenge of Shinobi,Columns,Golden
Axe)/Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective (2 CD's in double holder)

Sol-Feace

Double CD/CD+G package(various artists,including Chris Issak,Jimi
Hendrix,Fleetwood Mac,etc.)


If interested,please leave me a message here,

                       Thank You,

                                     Diana

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From: TERRY MCDILL                           Number: 2873
  To: CHRIS WISE                               Date: 08/03/93 12:02a
Subj: Re: The 7th guest and mitsumi           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Chris Wise to Terry Mcdill <=-


 CW> are running it with a soundblaster pro, then you will need to get the
 CW> update for it. I think it is called T7G_124.exe. This will do away
 CW> with the sound buffer overflow error. Hope this helps you out.

I do have the newer one, thanks for your help.

Terry


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From: TERRY MCDILL                           Number: 2874
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 08/03/93 12:06a
Subj: Re: The 7th Guest and Mitsumi           Refer: NONE
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 -=> Quoting Jim Reed to Terry Mcdill <=-

 JR> Hi Terry;
 JR> T7G runs just fine on my Mitsumi 350ms Internal.
 JR> /JIM/

Thanks!

Terry


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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 2875
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  3:40p
Subj: CUSTOMER INFORMATION                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          WHY BUY CD-ROMS FROM YOUR CANADIAN DEALER, PART ONE

Shipped from within Canada       From outside Canada
 - 3 day or LESS shipping,        - 3 days to the border,
   as low as $2                     ??? days after that, min. 1 week
 - Match valid advertised prices  - Match valid advertised prices
 - Adult titles get to you        - Adult discs may be seized by
   promptly                         customs, you still have to pay!
 - No exchange hassles: you       - Bank charges, exchange charges,
   know what you pay                postal charges, you name it.
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From: JASON SAUVE                            Number: 2876
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  6:42p
Subj: CD's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The following computer items are FORSALE, see below for more information.


CD-ROM SOFTWARE:
Title                                    Disk Sizes  Gfx    Price (CDN)
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CorelDraw 3.0 For Windows                *CD-ROM*    SVGA  $200.00
  SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
    -  IBM compatible 386s, 486s, and PS/2s
       286s require Windows in protected mode with minimum 4 megs RAM
    -  Windows 3.1 required for True Type fonts
    -  Windows 3.0 font support provided by Adobe Type Manager (not included)
    -  Hard Drive
    -  VGA Windows supported monitor
    -  Mouse or tablet
  INCLUDES
    -  CorelDRAW                -  CorelPHOTO-PAINT
    -  CorelCHART               -  CorelSHOW
    -  CorelMOSAIC              -  CorelTRACE
  CONDITION
    -  Includes everything except the registration card


European Racers                          *CD-ROM*    SVGA  $ 60.00
  CONDITION
    -  Includes ALL ORIGINAL documents including registration card
    -  Includes model (Porsche 911 slant nose) in it's original package
       Model requires assembly
    -  Used ONLY twice
  PC SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
    -  386 SX or greater                  -  4 MB RAM or greater
    -  SVGA graphics                      -  CD-ROM drive
    -  DOS 5.0 or greater                 -  Soundblaster card
    -  Speakers or headphones             -  Mouse (joystick optional)
    -  13 MB Hard Drive
  DESCRIPTION
    -  State-of-the-art, interactive 3-D instructions for building your own
       Porsche, Bugatti, Lamborghini and Nazca models - four of Europe's
       hottest racing machines!
    -  The plastic modem kit for the super hot, super fast Porsche 911 slant
       nose.
    -  High-tech, motion picture video tips that show you how to paint, glue
       and finish your model like a pro.
    -  Building your car is only half the fun - climb behind the wheel and
       enter an action-packed, 3D driving simulation game guarenteed to keep
       you on the edge of your seat every time you play.
    -  Experience the real life, high-speed handling of each super-charged car
       and the incredible realism of 3-D graphics.
    -  Test your stuff against on-screen competitors on four European roads &
       race tracks.
    -  But, watch out for speed traps! The police are waiting to catch you on
       your way to the track.
    -  Cruise over the track-even over buildings - with European Racers copter
       cam.
    -  Throughout the game, listen, learn or receive your punishment from the
       motion picture video policeman, gas station attendant, sportscaster,
       pit crew attendant, custodian, and beauty queen.
    -  Got a feel for the car? How improve your performance by customizing
       your race car to match the randomly changing weather, the track layout,
       and the competition.


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 : --  NO GUARENTEES/REFUNDS WHAT-SO-EVER                                   :
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 : All Prices include them nasty sales taxes                                :
 : S&H (Shipping & Handling) not included in the above prices.              :
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*****************************************************************************

For more information, if you are interested in purchasing a product please
leave me mail via any board in 519 area code on any of the "For Sale" nets.
Specifically in the Windsor / Essex County districts with your phone number
included to Jason Sauve...

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2877
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/04/93  1:38a
Subj: Mix or Match                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Canadian Shareware      Ultimate Shareware
Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
PC-SIG Games              LaserTax On CD          Phoenix # 3
Jokes&Pranks              Learning Adventure      Business Assistant
World Travler             Sound Sensation         DeathStar Arcade
Colossal CookBook         ClipArt Goliath         Technotools
Our Solar System          Bible & Religion

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

***********************************************************************



Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2878
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/04/93  1:38a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2879
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/04/93  1:38a
Subj: Busty Babes III v1.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

)))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.

                      PRICE - $25.00

To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((



Boris Osadciw

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From: RON RICHMOND                           Number: 2880
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/02/93 11:04p
Subj: Last disk                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



HI Boris, I guess you know I don't want your last Busty Babes Rel.1 disk at
that price. What is your price for Busty Babes  release 2 ? One of the others
has it for $29. and as a Consumer Club Previous purchaser( of a CD Rom Drive, I
would like to purchase it from you if possible.      Thanks,
                                                             Ron.
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From: JOHN MORRISON                          Number: 2881
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/02/93  8:36a
Subj: Battlechess-enhanced mode               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am writing this for a friend who doesn't have a modem. He is looking  for
"BATTLECHESS"-enhanced mode, on CDrom. Would anyone who sells it please
E-mail me a price including shipping  to Winnipeg MB.


                                Thanks

                                    John

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From: MIKE ROBINSON                          Number: 2882
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/03/93 10:42a
Subj: Hitachi cd rom drives $130              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

A
A
Z


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From: MIKE ROBINSON                          Number: 2883
  To: LOYD CRAFT                               Date: 08/03/93 10:45a
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HELLO LOYD

I LIKE WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH THE C.D.ROM STUFF WILL YOU PLEASE SENT ME SOME
INFO.ON THIS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS BEFORE I SENT YOU SOME STUFF
TO DO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW YOU DO IT PLEASE MAIL ME AT
                 MIKE ROBINSON
                 2 HEFT CRESENT
                 WINNIPEG,MANITOBA
                  CANADA
                  R2P-1N4

 AND WILL YOU PLEASE SEND ME A MESSAGE ON THIS BOARD TO SAY YOU GOT THIS
MESSAGE AND YOU WIL SENT THE INFO. OUT TO ME



                                             THANK YOU

                                             MIKE ROBINSON


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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2884
  To: JOHN ANDERSON                            Date: 08/03/93 12:38p
Subj: Re: The 7Th Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>.. Clinton will tax wealthy Americans. Congratulations! You're rich!
>
>I might have been interested, but I don't do buisness with
>people who show the distaste of forwarding their
>unsolicited political views.

JA>Speak For Yourself.  I will try, at all possible chances, to send all of
JA>my
JA>further CD-ROM orders to Mike since he was exercising his "distaste" by
JA>taking advantage of his 1st amendment rights....

JA>John

And he has every right to. But, I also have the right to choose who I do
buisness with bases on any factor I wish. I choose not to do buisness with a
person who that doesn't know any buisness tact. Is he is going to send me a
message exercising his first amendment right to free speech, then I am going to
send a message back expressing mine.

..Ex ignorantia ad sapientiam; e luce ad tenebras

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 2885
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 08/04/93  8:03a
Subj: TCM/Night Owl Newsletter                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 08-02-93 Ray Herold wrote to All...

 RH> If you are NOT on our mailing list, but would like to

Ray, I'd like to get on your mailing list so here's my address:

Paul F. Swider
509 Digger St.
Las Vegas, Nv.
89107

Thanks >Paul<


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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 2886
  To: ALEX MAHAN                               Date: 08/04/93  9:08a
Subj: Communications-Games                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Has anybody seen a cd-rom with lots of communication-bbs stuff, along
-> with games and music? Ill pay up to $30 for one, maybe $40. Also, is
-> anybody else into SB/VGA demos? I havent been able to find a good cd
-> with that stuff on. Thanks, ALex
->
->
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Night owl 9 has all the fore mentioned. Try it out, I am very pleased
with mine!
bubba
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From: MATTHEW SMITH                          Number: 2887
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 08/04/93 11:19a
Subj: TCM/Night Owl Newsletter.               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RH>    - leave a message here with your name & address
RH>    - call our BBS and leave a message to the sysop
Here you go:

Matthew Smith
1509 Rockwood Drive
Keller, TX, 76248

thanks


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From: JOHN GOERL                             Number: 2888
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 08/04/93  2:51a
Subj: Initial Message                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

This message initalizes this conference (FNPACK)!
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From: ALEX MAHAN                             Number: 2889
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93 12:10p
Subj: Nightowl                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Has anybody seen nightowl 8 or 9 going cheap? I need a good cd-rom with
everthing on it (actually my dad does) but I havent seen them for iunder
$30. Thanks for any input, Alex


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2890
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/03/93  8:57p
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>You had posted a list of adult titles for sale and I'd asked for more
BJ>information. You supplied a little more, but not enough for me to make a
BJ>purchase decision. Oddly enough, Goosebump Graphics posted a similar list
BJ>shortly thereafter with somewhat more inclusive descriptions. Bottom  line:
BJ>I'll probably wait and work through the titles I'm interested in  with Mike
BJ>Shannon one or two at a time over then next several weeks.

Bob,

Which ones were you interested in?  Maybe I can answer your questions
for you.

BTW, did you get Oinker 2 OK?

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2891
  To: JOHN ANDERSON                            Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: The 7Th Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JA>>>.. Clinton will tax wealthy Americans. Congratulations! You're rich!
JA>>
JA>>I might have been interested, but I don't do buisness with
JA>>people who show the distaste of forwarding their
JA>>unsolicited political views.

JA>Speak For Yourself.  I will try, at all possible chances, to send all of my
JA>further CD-ROM orders to Mike since he was exercising his "distaste" by
JA>taking advantage of his 1st amendment rights....

John,

Thanks for the support, but how did I get caught up in all this???

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2892
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: CD'S FOR 10 BUCKS!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

VS>Do you have the adult cd featuring teri weigel?

You mean the "Wicked" photo CD?  Not yet, because I think the price is a
little too high, but maybe if it comes down to a reasonable level.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2893
  To: TED KIDD                                 Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: NEW CD'S IN STOCK!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TK>MS> Radio.......$19Aminet Amiga 1993...$15   Bible Library 1.1...$28

TK>Is the Aminet Amiga 1993 disc BBS compatible?
TK>And, do you carry a Macintosh disc that is IBM BBS compatible other than
TK>OtherWare????  Please give the name, price, and date if you do...

Not really.  There are text files on the CD, but not in any type of
recognizable format that I could see.  There is a directory of BBS
tools to let you create your own text files however.  The only other
Amiga CD we stock besides Otherware is AB20, which is actually an
earlier release of this one.

Hope that helps!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2894
  To: CHRIS WISE                               Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: Fax                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CW>    I used it and it worked.  I want to thank you for your prompt assistance
CW>got it about 3 days after I ordered it or so).  For anyone out there
thinking
CW>on using their services I would recommend them, and will definitely use them

Glad to hear that Chris, and thanks for the orders.  The ol' desktop fax
hasn't failed me yet, but I can't for the life of me get this silly Boca
fax card to -receive- a fax.  Transmit works OK.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2895
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BR>someone owns the copyrights to the images on this disc weather it be a
BR>model
BR>herself, a photography, or a magazine, so I would not want to take a
BR>chance of
BR>putting that disc or any other adult CD-Rom disc on a BBS a sysop
BR>could
BR>possibily get nailed for distribution of copyrighted material and
BR>anyone
BR>selling this disc or any other adult disc that is not copyrighted and
BR>licensed
BR>takes a BIG chance of get prosecuted for sale and distribution of
BR>copyrighted
BR>material so ***** B E W A R E ***** sysops and distributors.

Then there are those crazy dealers like me who like to live life on the
edge.  I'll take ALL THE BUSTY'S I CAN GET MY HANDS ON!  Keep 'em
coming Lee!

BTW, would you explain why you publish a CD with FILES.BBS in each
directory, yet your forbid its use on BBS's?  What's wrong with that
picture?  It's a good looking CD, but you're eliminating a vast
potential market by turning up your nose at the sysops! (IMHO)  I'm
considering dropping your CD from my catalog after learning of this BBS
restriction.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2896
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: cd's shipping to canada??               Refer: NONE
Read: 08/06/93 10:23a                       Private: No

TH>Right now, no.  I see no fundamental legal differences between what
TH>occurs here & what occurs in the back of PC Magazine... Obviously I
TH>won't allow specific, nontechnical, discussion of these discs in this
TH>echo - that goes without saying.  I guess what I'm trying to say is, "if
TH>it's good enough for PC Mag, it's good enough for me"...

Right on Tim!

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2897
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: The monster is back!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LF> Thanks for reinstituting the "monster;" I've saved it to my "CDROMCAT"
LF> file for reference. I notice that "Front Page News" is not on your
LF> list, though it was in the catalog you sent with the discs. Is it no
LF> longer available? I hope you still have/can get it, since we were
LF> planning to order it at work as soon as the budget approval comes
LF> through.

Got one set aside for ya darlin'.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2898
  To: CHRIS HARRIS                             Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: StarVector CD Sales                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CH>Mike, jusr got the CD's I ordered.  Am really pleased with them all, as
CH>is the wife and children.  Expect to see MORE orders from me in the
CH>future.

Good deal Chris.  Let me know anytime you need anything!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2899
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>Great! I'm assuming that the new GUI will be D/L-able from your BBS for
owner
BJ>of the current release (?) .

Bob,

We have the "fix" on our BBS @ 509-457-0206.  Filename is WBOXFIX.ZIP

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2900
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 1/2                       Refer: NONE
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Microsoft Musical Instruments.58.00
 7th Guest.....................52.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    MIDI Music Shop...............29.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 1...17.00    Monarch Notes.................64.00
 American Business Phonebk 2...19.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 Amiga AB20....................15.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...38.50
 Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.00    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....30.00
 Audubon's Birds...............25.00    National Business Directory...39.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............25.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    National Parks................29.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 4.1.................20.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 8.0.................27.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....33.00
 Business Master...............20.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    North American Fax Book.......39.00
 California Collection.........17.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...19.00
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 CD Winbox (New!)..............27.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 CD Grab Bag Disc..............19.00    PC-SIG #12....................27.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    PC Gameroom...................27.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Pentomino.....................32.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phethean's Shareware #1.......15.00
 Clipart Galore................28.00    Phoenix 3.0...................13.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 1........................27.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........27.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............35.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....28.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....22.00
 Composer Quest................35.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency... 98.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........125.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....69.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....69.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........34.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........33.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........27.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Crossword Cracker.............24.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Reader's Library..............31.50
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....36.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...42.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....27.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Eagle Eye Shareware (New!)....25.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Online..............28.00
 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00    Shareware Overload............13.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2901
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: CD PRICE LIST 2/2                       Refer: NONE
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Studio 1............20.00
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Shareware Studio 2............25.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........15.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Sights & Sounds...............25.00
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......29.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Find-It Webster...............49.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Font Master 2.................28.00    So Much Shareware 2...........27.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Software Vault 1..............25.00
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....27.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..29.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Soundware Collection (New!)...27.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    SoundWAV......................28.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space Quest IV................24.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Grolier's Ill. Ency. 2.0......38.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........48.00    Street Atlas USA..............86.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......48.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...25.00    Super CD 2....................27.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....16.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Super Games For Windows.......16.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........28.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Technotools...................13.00
 House of Games................24.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..27.50
 Illustrated Holy Bible........47.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.50
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Total Baseball................29.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    Trump Castle..................33.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 King's Quest V................24.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........27.50    Up All Night Shareware (New!).19.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    VGA Spectrum 1................15.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    VGA Spectrum 2................22.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    Visions of Saturn.............25.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    Vital Signs...................45.00
 Lion's Share..................24.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Window Master.................20.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........37.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander II Deluxe......57.50
 Magnum One Shareware..........27.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........27.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Manhole.......................36.50    World Atlas MPC...............27.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............28.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak............45.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2902
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  8:58p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICES                         Refer: NONE
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    PC-PIX 3......................30.00
 After Dark Trilogy (New!).....45.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 All Beauties (New!)...........36.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Amateur Models (New!).........35.00    Porkware 2 (New!).............37.00
 Animation Fantasies 1 or 2....29.00    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Busty Babes 2.0 or 3.0........33.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........29.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........49.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00
 Girls of Vivid (New!).........45.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................29.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................29.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......35.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................29.00    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............29.00    Storm 2.......................28.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00    Storm 3.......................29.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Storm 3-Pak...................75.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....45.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Nightwatch Interactive (Wow!).49.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 PC-PIX 1......................30.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 PC-PIX 2......................30.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2903
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 08/03/93  8:30a
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROMs                      Refer: NONE
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-> Yes, they are SCSI, not proprietary.  The software used are your own
-> controllers drivers.  This drive doesn't require any special drivers
Okay! I will keep this in mind for when I do make my decision!
Thanks for the help!
Henry

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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2904
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 08/04/93  9:37a
Subj: Re: THE 7TH GUEST                       Refer: NONE
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 -=> Quoting Israel Gomberg to Mark Johnsen <=-

 MJ>... Clinton will tax wealthy Americans. Congratulations! You're rich!

 IG> I might have been interested, but I don't do buisness with people who
 IG> show the  distaste of forwarding their unsolicited political views.

        Why don't you rephrase that? What you really meant was, "I voted
for Clinton and now I'm too embarrassed to tell anyone".
                                                        Edward

... Clinton's Gift to us....$1.1 trillion MORE debt.
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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 2905
  To: BOB TRUBE                                Date: 08/04/93  9:54a
Subj: Re: DROP                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Bob Trube to Qmail <=-

 BT> Add, Drop, or Reset a Conference.
 BT> * LAKOTA v1.0
 BT> -!- FreeMail 1.08
 BT>  ! Origin: The Galactic WarZone BBS * Houston, TX * [phone] *
 BT> (1:106/4231)

        Geez that was REAL informational. Especially to the thousands of
 people who will read ALL three messages.
                                                        Edward

... Rush said it would be like this.
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From: NATE LAWSON                            Number: 2906
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/04/93 12:00a
Subj: 7th guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am very interested in the 7th Guest CD.  The lowest price I have seen has
been $49 through mail order.  Anyone have a used version?  Seen a lower price?

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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 2907
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/04/93  2:01p
Subj: Jem Disc I Trade In Deal                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    Jem Disc I Shareware CD-Rom Collection - now just $19.95 plus S/H
    OR send us a used unwanted CD-Rom in good condition and Jem Disc is
    yours for just $14.95 including S/H!

    Jem Disc was pressed last September and features about 500MB of great
    files in 59 well organized directories.  Nearly 100 megs of Jem Disc's
    files are BBS/Sysop related making this disc a must for all serious
    sysops!

    FREQ from 1:203/49 at v.32bis speeds:

    JEMDISC  - Jem Disc description, stats & order form (5k)
    JEMTRADE - Jem Disc trade in special (hurry offer ends 9/15!)
    JEMFILES - Jem Disc FILES.BBS file listings

    Or call my BBS at 916-921-9949 & snag these files from my logon matrix!


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 2908
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 08/04/93  1:08a
Subj: Whom?                                   Refer: NONE
Read: 08/06/93 10:25a                       Private: No

01 Aug 93 09:02, Tim Helton wrote to Bob Jackson:

 TH> OK, who owns copyright to the echos?  Tom Jennings owns copyright to the

 TH> to declare them as such... So, who owns copyright: "dunno".

 TH> The punch line is "yes" - someone is legally responsible for the mail
 TH> that flows thru this echo, but that "someone" is unknown.

The person who writes the post is the copyright holder.  I believe that you
could get more information on this from the MODERATOR echo.

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From: JOE HEUGLY                             Number: 2909
  To: TERRY MCDILL                             Date: 08/01/93  2:17a
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST AND MITSUMI               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TM>I just purchased a Mitusmi CD-Rom and was wondering if this drive would
  >support
  >the game "The 7th Guest". The other equipment is able to support the game.
TM>Terry

Hi Terry,
I own a Talon TA-100 (Mitsumi LU005S), and I am using The 7th Guest.  I
am sure it runs faster on the double-speed drives, but I am happy with
the game on my Mitsumi.
Expect to pay in the high 50's + s/h mail order, or in the 60 to 70
range at a store.
Joe

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2910
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/04/93 10:07a
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does Anyone have a Encyclopedia NEW or in good condition for less that $35?


                Thanks!

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 2911
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/06/93 10:15a
Subj: Review of Pork-Ware II (c               Refer: 6315
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->      Visual
->      ======

That's good stuff, Bob...

tim
moderator
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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2912
  To: PAUL SEDILLO                             Date: 08/04/93  7:57a
Subj: Re: New hard drives                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->  QD> Is the Western Digital really that much faster than the Maxtor?
->  QD> is the throughput on each drive?
->
-> Western Digital from what the trade rags say, is on it's last
-> leg. As far as the WD2340 being faster than the 7345A, that is
The Wertern Digital has a bigger cache than Maxtor.
Seagate drives have more cache and 5400 rpms on their 340mb drive..
the others have around 3600rpms.

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From: KEITH TOWNSEND                         Number: 2913
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 08/04/93 10:28p
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
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Hey Mike!

  Like I said the Drive I bought from you seems to be working fine..However
about once every 15 second the LED turns on and off again..this does this
continously..Sounds like unnecessary Disk access to me..Is this normal for
these Toshiba drives or could it be a termination thing (It's the only SCSI
device)..It seems to do it witth both the Asim and the CBM software so I
don't think It's a software thing...Please leave me a note in case I'm
worrying for nothing...Thanx

Keith Townsend Sysop Ami-Madness BBS


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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 2914
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/04/93  3:55p
Subj: Re: CD's                                Refer: NONE
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 -=> Quoting Ismail Arslangiray to Ron Mitchell <=-

 > the Shareware Studio Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 and my CD won't read them
 > except on a hit or miss basis.  Now I'm kind of scared to buy any more

 IA> Dear Ron,
 IA> Due to price cutting war among the some replicating houses, some of
 IA> the disks  have been shipped out without proper check or warranty.
 IA> Therefor several of the existing disks don't meet the
 IA> ORANGE Book specs. If you have any disk that doesn't read
 IA> on your Mitsumi or any other drive, check the disk yet. If

Ismail,

To check these CDs out, I stopped at a local Radio Shack amd asked if
I could try to read them with one of their display units.  They agreed
and when I put the CDs in their system, it read them with no problem.

I'm not sure, but it seems to me that I have a problem with my Mitsumi.
If my theory is wrong, please let me know. I guess it's still possible
that it could be the CDs, but it doesn't seem likely to me.

My plan now is to check with the tech people at Mitsumi and try to get
this problem resolved without my users having to do without access to the
CDRom for an extended period of time.  I'm also going to go by the dealer's
store where I bought the reader and try the CDs in some of their other
Mitsumi CDs to be fair.

I certainly appreciate your offer of help, and at some time in the future I
might have to take you up on it.

                                     Thanks,
                                          Ron

... File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)
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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 2915
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/05/93  9:23a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
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 -=> Quoting Ismail Arslangiray to Ron Mitchell <=-

 > Where and how do I get more info?  Is Mitsumi going to give
 > an upgrade to owners of their drives?  My unit is still under warranty,
 > so
 > I would think that Mitsumi would owe me a correction.
 IA> Dear Ron,
 IA> There is always possiblity for a faulty drive. However, I do have
 IA> serious  concerns over the advices given by some individuals. Infact
 IA> I personaly know that some of them never seen a Mitsumi
 IA> drive. I know it is sad but true. If you have more question
 IA> ect. give me a call and I try to help you or you can call
 IA> the nearest Mitsumi technical support line and you can get
 IA> your questions answered. TTYL

I called the Mitsumi tech people yesterday and they seemed to think it was
a software problem.  Their suggestion was to change the parameters in
MTMCDD to disable DMA transfers and use software transfers(while still
using the DMA software).  Sounds confusing, doesn't it?  Anyway, it didn't
cure the problem.  I can still read the CDs that I could read, and can't
read the CDs that I couldn't read.  I'm goimg to the dealer with the CDs
today and try them in his shop and see what develops.

This is very frustrating, because I want to add some more CDs to my rotation
schedule, and until I know exactly what's happening I can't afford to
spend any more money on CDs.  I already have two that I can't use, and
can't afford to end up with any others.

Depending on what I find out at the dealer, I'll call Mitsumi again,
pull out all my hair, jump off a cliff, or something.  I hate to take
the CD offline because it's my main source of files.  But if it's a problem
with the drive I might have to do so.


                                 Ron


... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2916
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/05/93  7:16p
Subj: Cdx = cd-rom, adult                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Goosebump Graphics posted a lengthly and pretty descriptive listing of adult
titles so I have what I need in that regard. Porky 2 arrived, got reviewed,
and is on his way back (sorry).

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From: EARL BONSER                            Number: 2917
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 08/05/93  1:22p
Subj: TCM/Night Owl Newsletter.               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RH>If you are NOT on our mailing list, but would like to get the latest
RH>Night Owl news (along with info on discounts we do not advertise in
RH>the e-mail nets), you may do one of the following:
RH>    - leave a message here with your name & address

Please add me to your mailing list:

       Earl Bonser
       12088 Andreson Rd. #170
       Tampa, Fl. 33625

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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 2918
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 08/05/93  6:08p
Subj: Re: THE 7TH GUEST                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MJ>... Clinton will tax wealthy Americans. Congratulations! You're
EC>rich!

 IG> I might have been interested, but I don't do buisness with people
EC>who
 IG> show the  distaste of forwarding their unsolicited political views.

EC>        Why don't you rephrase that? What you really meant was, "I voted
EC>for Clinton and now I'm too embarrassed to tell anyone".

Gee.. Paranoid? Actualy I wrote in Howard Phillips Lovecraft, I didn't like any
of the candidates. However your reply was tipical of many people today. Assume
and accuse before thinking.

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From: LESLIE THOMAS                          Number: 2919
  To: DAN APPLEHANS                            Date: 08/05/93  6:47a
Subj: Matsushita CD-Rom drive w               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DA>I am searching for a matsushita cd-rom drive.  Actually, I am searchin
DA>drive that will interface with A creative Labs SoundBlaster pro.  From
DA>understand, few drives will interface With the SoundBlaster Pro card,
DA>Signature, or something.)  Any information regarding this little dilem
DA>be appreciated, and offers also.
DA>Reply here, or call [phone] Most anytime.


One of the drives that you are looking for is the Mitsumi...there are one
or two other brand of drives that will use the sound blaster interface,
but I cannot remember the names...maybe you should give Creative labs a
call at [phone] FAX [phone].  These numbers are for sound
blaster technical support from a manual dated May '92/

    WinQwk 2.0 a#0


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From: GIL MACHIN                             Number: 2920
  To: NATE LAWSON                              Date: 08/05/93  9:22a
Subj: 7th guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Think Hard Now!  Which One is Shinola?

NL>I am very interested in the 7th Guest CD.  The lowest price
NL>I have seen has been $49 through mail order.  Anyone have a
NL>used version?  Seen a lower price?


In Kansas City Mo. Sam's Club Warehouse has it for $45 plus some change.
This is about $5 Cheaper that anyware else in town.
                                                     Gil

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 2921
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/05/93 10:18a
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > -> Hi there,  do you have Space Quest 4/Kings Quest for abouut 35.00?
 > Yes we do... S/H is $2 via Canada Post... give Michellea or
 > myself a
 > call at 306-789-4654. You can also order online on our BBS at
 > 306-789-8682 or fax us at 306-789-8690.
 >    Vince
 > --- The Mail Box [NR]

AHHHH!!  Sorry,  I wish I would have bought it from you...  Your Shipping is
much cheaper.  I just got it from Doug Carpenter.   But hey,  What other games
do you have along the line of those two.  I am a very Avid game player.  Also
do you have any Encyclopedias for sale.

                                Opps. Darren Sellner


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From: ALAN WILLIAMS                          Number: 2922
  To: RICH JACKSON                             Date: 07/19/93 12:02p
Subj: TERRY WOODWARD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Up to your old tricks Michael??  How did you go from no kids to three
-> kids in the last year?

EMFBI, three ladies and a busy social schedule??? ;-))

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From: YVES DESJARDINS                        Number: 2923
  To: JOHN MORRISON                            Date: 08/05/93  6:41a
Subj: Battlechess-enhanced mode               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello John!

02 Aug 93 08:36, John Morrison wrote to All:

 JM> I am writing this for a friend who doesn't have a modem. He is looking
 JM> for "BATTLECHESS"-enhanced mode, on CDrom. Would anyone who sells it
 JM> please E-mail me a price including shipping  to Winnipeg MB.


I have the CD that he is looking for.  I would be willing to trade it for
something else.  Can you check with him and find out what he has for trade.

Thanks...

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 2924
  To: ALEX MAHAN                               Date: 08/05/93 11:07a
Subj: NIGHTOWL                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Has anybody seen nightowl 8 or 9 going cheap? I need a good cd-rom
-> with everthing on it (actually my dad does) but I havent seen them
-> for iunder $30. Thanks for any input, Alex

   How about $35Cdn (about $25 US)?

   Vince
   [phone]
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2925
  To: MICHAEL MULCAHY                          Date: 08/05/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: CDROM Specials                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>      BO> American Premier          Officers Bookcase
>>      Canadian Shareware BO> Between Heaven & Hell 2
>>      Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler TaxPrep BO> '93'
>>      Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena Golden Immortal BO>
>>      Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room Mother Earth II
>>       Quick BO> Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8 Chicano Datebase
>>         PC-SIG Games BO> LaserTax On CD Phoenix # 3
>>      Jokes&Pranks BO> Learning Adventure Business Assistant
>>      World Travler BO> Sound Sensation DeathStar Arcade
>>      Colossal CookBook BO> ClipArt Goliath Technotools
>>      Our Solar System BO> Windoware BO>

>>    Boris, which of these are MAC compatible?...m2

None of the above...sorry !!

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2926
  To: ZACH WELBURN                             Date: 08/05/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: CDROM Specials                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    hey i am interested in between heaven and hell 2
>>    phoenix #3
>>    shareware studio2 if you still have them let me know

Yes we do......

Give us a call at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to help you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Which comes first, the chicken or the egg?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2927
  To: RON RICHMOND                             Date: 08/05/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: Disk                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Hi Boris, Did you recieve my order on Sat. July 30 for Busty
>>    Babes 1.? I left it on your electronic order desk. Thanks,
>>     Ron.

Yes, but I didn't send it as maybe you thought it would be a low cost
cd. The current bid on this cd is $300. so I didn't think you wanted me
to charge you card with that amount.

Thanks....

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2928
  To: LARRY CHARPIAT                           Date: 08/05/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Can the Pioneer six disk changers access the six different CD
>>    ROM disk through a BBS menu with a software switch or command?

If you mean, can the Pioneer access all six cd's at the same time,
the answer ot that is no. You can only access one cd at a time. That's
why sysops use doors, which allows thier users to view the filebase
first and then one user at a time can go into a download mode.

If you need futher assistance, please call us at 216-225-3263 anytime
and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 2929
  To: DON HANCOCK                              Date: 08/05/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: Red Hot Summer                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>>$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

BO>> ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec

>>        Boris, MORE info!! Date? Size? Menu system? Languages
>>        supported? Source code? Or just utilities?
>>            I'm VERY interested in any programming CD's.
>>        Expecially xBase and C/C++.

This has everything you meantioned above and covers every programming code
out there. It has source codes, routines, text files, articials and more.
Almost 400+ megs with over 15,000 files on it and is BBS ready.

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist
you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 2930
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/05/93 11:40a
Subj: Southern Beauties                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********** NEW ADULT CD ROM RELEASE - SOUTHERN BEAUTIES **********

Fully Copyrighted and Licensed - 1000 GIFs 1024x768x256 from original 35MM
slides - Installs quickly and easily - Menu Driven - Sound Blaster Front -
Multi Directory Slide Show - 300 Meg of the BEST IMAGES in True Color 24 BIT
TIFF format - OVER 675 MEG of PRUE STIMULATING VIEWING PLEASURE.

To Order Call - Tradeshows Inc. 1-317-651-9848

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From: DON DEMAERE                            Number: 2931
  To: JASON SAUVE                              Date: 08/05/93  8:57a
Subj: CD's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Recently you offered:

 JS> Title                                    Disk Sizes  Gfx    Price (CDN)
 JS> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 JS> CorelDraw 3.0 For Windows                *CD-ROM*    SVGA  $200.00

You can get this same program new from Future Shop for $179 (CDN). You want
$200 for a used version. I don't think so...

Don

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From: SCOTT MORITZ                           Number: 2932
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/05/93 12:50a
Subj: Grid Laptop computer                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

For sale:  Grid 386/33 laptop with mono VGA graphics
           130 meg hard drive
           1.44 floppy
           LPT/SERIAL/mouse/keyboard/monitor/Bus ports
           Built in mouse
           internal 9600/9600 modem/FAX
           Full size keyboard

   I bought this computer for work, but ended up not having any need for
it...hehe  Thus, I need to sell it.

Asking:  $1725

   I will through in 2nd day air shipment.  COD or prepay only

Any questions, or to purchase call 866-3001 anytime

   If you get the dreaded answering machine, just leave a message with your
name and number and I will return your call ASAP.

Scott


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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 2933
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/04/93  1:45p
Subj: Re: Review of Pork-Ware I               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Bob Jackson to All <=-

 BJ> Bottom line: at best there's about 12 "new" files on this CD.
 BJ> That makes them cost about $2 each at current street prices.
 BJ> Given that, the very high re-hash factor, and the mixed-up file
 BJ> listings, I can't recommend PW2 as a good value.  Any of the
 BJ> comparison CDs would be a much better choice.

Hey, THANKS! you've done us that don't have access to 'impartial'
reviews a great service.  No telling what's on the CD till you get it
and then it's too late.  I can save my money for some really good
stuff, now.































 BJ> ... deny thy father and forget thy tagline.
 BJ> -!- Blue Wave/RA v2.10
 BJ>  ! Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | [phone] |
 BJ> (1:106/30.0)
 BJ> -!- Via Mosaic v0.99/l



... * Nice computers don't go down.
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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 2934
  To: JACK HUDDLE                              Date: 08/05/93  4:53p
Subj: NEW Corel ArtShow 3 CD &                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jack-

I sold this one, but I may have another soon.
I'll let you know.

Thanks,
Bob


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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 2935
  To: STEVE KISER                              Date: 08/05/93  4:55p
Subj: NEW Corel ArtShow 3 CD &                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Steve-

I sold this one - if I get another, I'll contact you.

Thanks,
Bob

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2936
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 08/06/93  4:50a
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Got some CDRoms I don't need anymore...
Some CDRoms for sale:

Source -- Gobs of C code                 $20.00   (MAR 92)
C User's Group  -- More Gobs of C code   $20.00   (OCT 92)
GIFs Galore -- 630 Megs of GIFs          $20.00   (1st ED)
CICA Windows -- 540 Megs of Windows      $15.00   (NOV 92)
Simtel -- over 600 Megs of DOS           $15.00   (DEC 92)
CDRom News Vol.1 Iss.2 -- NEXT/LINUX     $15.00
CDRom News Vol.1 Iss.3 -- NEXT/LINUX     $15.00
Hobbes OS/2 -- tons o' OS/2              $15.00   (NOV 92)
Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order, 2nd day priority shipping.
I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD charges.

Send checks/money orders to, and/or feel free to contact:

Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

[phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 2937
  To: DON HANCOCK                              Date: 08/06/93  4:51a
Subj: Programming CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> Looing for any programming CD's. New, used, doesn't matter as long as
>> they're readable. Prefer C, C++, Xbase. Source code, libraries,
>> etc.....

    Here is a list of CDs that I have for sale.  The Source and CUG are
both excellent C C++ disks.

Some CDRoms for sale:

Source -- Gobs of C code                 $20.00   (MAR 92)
C User's Group  -- More Gobs of C code   $20.00   (OCT 92)
GIFs Galore -- 630 Megs of GIFs          $20.00   (1st ED)
CICA Windows -- 540 Megs of Windows      $15.00   (NOV 92)
Simtel -- over 600 Megs of DOS           $15.00   (DEC 92)
CDRom News Vol.1 Iss.2 -- NEXT/LINUX     $15.00
CDRom News Vol.1 Iss.3 -- NEXT/LINUX     $15.00
Hobbes OS/2 -- tons o' OS/2              $15.00   (NOV 92)
feel free to contact me:
Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

[phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0


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From: BRETT PARKER                           Number: 2938
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 08/05/93 12:37p
Subj: Mitsumi under OS/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Chris Kuefler scribbled in a message to All:

CK> Can someone tell me what it takes to install a Mitsumi LU005
CK> under OS2? Is it even possible? What is needed?

Try contacting Huw Upshall at 1:138/301. I believe he is running one under OS/2
v2.1...

--Brett

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 2939
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 07/30/93  8:18a
Subj: Audio Cables                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RD>Does anyone know a good source for audio cables? I need a cable to go from a
RD>Sony CDU-31A to a Soundblaster Pro. I also need a cable to go from a
RD>Mitsumi/Tandy Cd-ROm to it's controller card. Any help is appreciated...

   Ryan, I have been trying to find one to go from my Texel to PAS 16.

   If you find a source for yours please let me know.
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 2940
  To: SHAWN MAY                                Date: 07/30/93  8:23a
Subj: The Software Toolworks Mu               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SM>    Anyone interested in "The software toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia,
SM>comes with a little manual, lookif for 40$ OBO..

   My BO is $20 including shipping.
 ■ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 ■ Don't be sexist.  Broads hate that.


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 2941
  To: JOHN ANDERSON                            Date: 07/31/93 10:58a
Subj: CD-ROMs For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JA>Used CD-ROMs For Sale:

JA>    Infocom Treasure Chest - $20

       Tell me what is in the disk please?

       For now I'll offer $10 plus $2.90 shipping.

       Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 ■ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 ■ Don't be sexist.  Broads hate that.


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 2942
  To: SCOTT PETERSEN                           Date: 08/02/93  1:47p
Subj: 4sale or trade                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GE>SP> I have the following items for sale or trade.

GE>SP>LOOM---CD-ROM game--real voices and cool music

GE>   Pick one of the following for a trade:

GE> ...........................................................
GE> COMRADE - New from Lightbulb Logic - 5¼" & 3½"
GE>    Play Tetris, Welltris or Faces with your mouse
GE>    or Trackball. Adjust game speed, gain control,
GE>    and raise your score.
GE> ...........................................................
GE> Tetris by Spectrum Holobyte
GE> Hoyle Book of Games - Volume 1 (no inner box)
GE> SUPERSTAR INDOOR SPORTS - two 5¼ disks (shrink wrapped)
GE> MEAN 18 FAMOUS COURSE DISK II by Acolade - 5¼ disk
GE> JIGSAW - 5¼" disk complete
GE> Lotus 1-2-3 Release 1a
GE> Quicken Ver 4 & Financial Pack Ver 1 for DOS
GE> Copy II PC Version 6  3½"
GE> Lotus Works Release 1.0 3½" disks
GE> DOS 4.01
GE> DOS 2.1
GE> Managing Your Money (v8) - 3½" disks shrinkwrap
GE> Managing Your Money (v5)  - 3½ disks - no box
GE> Condor Database (it's an old but great one)
GE> IBM DisplayWrite Assistant
GE> IBM Writing Assistant
GE> IBM Filing Assistant
GE> IBM Information Organizer - great package
GE> IBM Assistant Home Solutions - 1984 - 5¼" disk
GE> DBase III Handbook by Cue      Looks brand new
GE> Professional Editor by IBM - shrink wrapped & old
GE> Word Proof by IBM - shrink wrapped & old    5¼"
GE> IBM Personal Telephone Manager V1.0 1985    5¼"
GE> Microsoft Windows 3.0 Resource Kit from Microsoft
GE> IBM PC DOS 3.2 (minus supplemental diskette)
GE> Perfect Calc - Spreadsheet
GE> Perfect Writer - word processor
GE> Perfect Speller - spell check
GE> Menu Planner - IBM or MAC
GE> Weight Loss Planner - IBM or MAC
GE> 4Word The Add in Word Processor for Lotus 1-2-3
GE> ............................................................
GE> Gene Ehrich - P.O. Box 209 - Marlton NJ 08053-0209
GE>---
GE> ■ QMPro 1.02 41-4216 ■ Liar:  One who tells an unpleasant truth.
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 2943
  To: JIM HUSBAND                              Date: 08/02/93  1:48p
Subj: FOR TRADE - MAGAZINE RACK               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GE>JH>    I'd like to trade Magazine Rack (1991) for another CD-ROM. I no
GE>JH>longer have any interest in MR, so I will consider almost any CD.
GE>JH>I'll also be glad to sell it, but since I'm not a dealer, payment
GE>JH>would need to be by check/MO.

GE>   $9 including shipping (firm) is offered.
GE>---
GE> ■ QMPro 1.02 41-4216 ■ "Press to test."  <click>  "Release to detonate."
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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 2944
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 08/04/93 10:46p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 07-28-93  17:57 Jerry Murphy shared these words of wisdom:

 JM> There are a couple ways of making life a bit easier, I've found.  You
 JM> can save the article, F8 seems to be a popular way with them, and then
 JM> edit it afterwards with your favorite editor/word-cruncher routine.
 JM> Or, you could save it as an article and use Vern Buerg's LIST.COM to
 JM> find and collect the portion. You might also locate the file by using
 JM> GREP on the list of files to locate directly the filename, bypassing
 JM> the engine, and then editing a copy of that file; this involves
 JM> expertise of working from the command line, which is often a terrible
 JM> experience for some folks.  I've not found a different method that was
 JM> acceptable, and will be curious to learn if you discover one.

If the files are pure text (I have to admit, I haven't taken the time to
look at the Bureau CD to see if that's the case), there are other
search-engines that can be applied to them - I've written some myself and
have access to others. A quick & dirty little utility I wrote lets me take
a file with a list of search terms and apply it to a file to be searched
(usually a collection of files that have beeen concatenated). The program
spits out a file in which all the designated search strings are uppercased
for easy recognition. Another program of mine accepts boolean searches
and outputs all paragraphs which meet the stated criteria.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 2945
  To: MIKE WALKER                              Date: 08/05/93  8:13p
Subj: Looking                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MW> Is there such a CD-ROM out there with just Celebrities?  I don't
 MW>
 MW> they are riskey (sp?)


I think the spelling is "risque" but not to worry! I'm not aware of a
celebrity-only CD 'tho several (incl. Busty Babes) have quite a few on
them. You might try The MOVIE BBS - they specialize in celeb. pics.
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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 2946
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 08/06/93  1:33p
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Darren!

Wednesday August 04 1993, Darren Sellner writes to All:

 DS> Does Anyone have a Encyclopedia NEW or in good condition for less that
 DS> $35?

I have the Grolier Encyclopedia v5.0 brand new with the registration and
everything.  How about $20 you pay the shipping.  Let me know.  Call me voice
at [phone] before noon.  Later.....

Danny

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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 2947
  To: ALLAN KENNEDY                            Date: 08/04/93  1:06p
Subj: WANT TO SWAP                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AK> I would like to get a faster cd-rom. I have the folowing items to
AK> trade.1. mitsumi cd-rom 800 ms 8 months old w/8bit card & cables

I'll make an offer of $75.00 on the 800ms cd-rom drive Allen.

-Joe

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2948
  To: JERRY GEROLYMATOS                        Date: 08/05/93  8:20p
Subj: ADULT CD'S                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JG>I'm interested in Afterdark Trilogy ($45). And Seedy-ROM movie disc also
($45
JG>Is there sound to these? and what resolution do they appear in?
JG>I'd like to know if you accept moneyorders. If so ten I'll make a descision
JG>between the two...maybe even both.

Jerry,

We have both in stock, and each has SoundBlaster/Adlib support.  Resolution
is around 320x200 w/ the video portion only taking part of the screen.
Call any time if we can help you further!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2949
  To: ALEX MAHAN                               Date: 08/05/93  8:20p
Subj: Nightowl                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AM>Has anybody seen nightowl 8 or 9 going cheap? I need a good cd-rom with
AM>everthing on it (actually my dad does) but I havent seen them for iunder
AM>$30. Thanks for any input, Alex

Alex,

We have both in stock at $25 each.  Plus, you can get a 600mb "mystery" CD
for $6 w/ the purchase if you wish.  (It's Phoenix 3.0)

Call any time,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2950
  To: ZACH WELBURN                             Date: 08/05/93  8:20p
Subj: CD'S ON SALE!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ZW>DO YOU HAVE SHAREWARE OVERLOAD LEFT I AM INTERESTED IN BUYING IF YOU STILL
HA
ZW>IT

Yes Zach, all you want at $10 each.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2951
  To: JOHN MORRISON                            Date: 08/05/93  8:20p
Subj: Battlechess-enhanced mode               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JM>I am writing this for a friend who doesn't have a modem. He is looking
JM>for
JM>"BATTLECHESS"-enhanced mode, on CDrom.

John,

We stock Battlechess Enhanced at $32.  Airmail insured to Canada would be
$5.75.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2952
  To: MIKE WALKER                              Date: 08/05/93  8:20p
Subj: Looking                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MW>Is there such a CD-ROM out there with just Celebrities?  I don't mind if
MW>they are riskey (sp?)

Mike,

Don't know of one that is exclusively celebs, but Busty Babes 2.0 has a
whole directory devoted to that topic.  $33 while they last . . . .

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2953
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/05/93  8:20p
Subj: Review of Pork-Ware II (c               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>     about $2 each at current street prices.  Given that, the very high
BJ>     re-hash factor, and the mixed-up file listings, I can't recommend PW2
BJ>     as a good value.  Any of the comparison CDs would be a much better
BJ>     choice.

Oh well, can't win 'em all I guess.  This is why I send them to you Bob,
because I frankly don't have the time to scrutinize these CD's.  Good
review anyway!  I'll probably still recommend this CD to users who don't
have a collection built yet, or who have very few adult CD's.  Probably
a good starter, wouldn't you say?

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2954
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/05/93  8:20p
Subj: A FEW CHESTNUTS LEFT! 1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
                                pg. 1 of 2

   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

TITLES INCLUDE:

1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,
   poetry, humor, cookbooks, American history and founding documents, novels,
   short stories, home improvement guides, computer tutors, and more!

2. WINDOWARE - An excellent disc packed with tons of useful programs for
   Windows 3.0 and 3.1, including typefonts, font installers, games, home
   and business applications, education, wallpaper, utilities, etc.

3. SOUND SENSATIONS! - Adds multimedia excitement to your system!  Includes
   tons of sound effects, music files, jukeboxes, voices, sound clips,
   music voices, etc. in a variety of file formats.

4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities, debuggers,
   troubleshooters, and other programming tools for C/C++, dBase, Clipper,
   Basic, Assembler, AI, Unix, OS/2, Pascal, Forth, and more!

5. DICTIONARIES & LANGUAGES - A giant compilation of dictionaries,
   thesauruses, word-processors, style/syntax/spell checkers, glossaries,
   crossword solvers, foreign language tutors . . . on and on!

6. DEATHSTAR ARCADE BATTLES - Exciting arcade action games: Space wars,
   shoot-em-ups, auto racing, sports, casino gambling, horse and auto
   racing, and more. The fast action will entertain you for years!

7. TOO MANY TYPEFONTS! - Countless typefonts in all formats:  TrueType,
   ATM, Adobe Type 1, WFN, First Publisher, Ghostscript, HPL, etc. Also
   includes typeface modifiers, font managers, downloaders, & utilities.

 ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  So Much Shareware 3 only
 $25 with any Chestnut purchase!

            >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

 Hurry though, our stock on these is almost depleted, and once it's gone,
 back to the regular price!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2955
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/05/93  8:20p
Subj: A FEW CHESTNUTS LEFT! 2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

             *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
                                pg. 2 of 2

   For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
                   Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

TITLES INCLUDE:

8.  CLIPART GOLIATH - Over 10,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats, plus
    some in color-TIF/PCX, MAC, GIF, etc. Files can be imported to virtually
    every desktop publishing program! Subjects include: Americana, Animals,
    Business, Computing, Entertainment, Food, Holiday, Music, People,
    Religion, Science & Medicine, Signs, Sports, Cartoons, & many more.

9.  HAM RADIO 3.0 - Excellent collection of HAM and SWL programs and data!
    Includes packet radio, satellite communications, frequency lists,
    equipment service, design, mods, logging, news, FAX, FCC, & others.

10. COLOSSAL COOKBOOK - Over 4000 recipes, far more than the "Joy of
    Cooking".  Includes excellent recipe cross-reference and search!
    Includes health/nutrition guides, ethnic and regional recipes, meal
    planning, low-cholesterol diets, cooking instructions, & more!

11. BIBLES & RELIGION - All popular New & Old Testament versions, Book of
    Mormon, Talmud portions, lexicons & concordances, study guides,
    organization membership & fund-raising programs, etc.

12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for all
    applications, with an emphasis on games and Windows programs.  Subjects
    include business, clipart, communications, BBS, database, education,
    finance, games, graphics, religion, sound, utilities, Windows, & more!

13. OUR SOLAR SYSTEM - Exciting NASA and observatory photos of the planets,
    moons, comets, earth, and celestial phenomena!  Includes star locators,
    planetarium programs, astronomical data, voyage simulators, + tons more.

 ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  So Much Shareware 3 only
 $25 with any Chestnut purchase!

            >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<

 Hurry though, our stock on these is almost depleted, and once it's gone,
 back to the regular price!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2956
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/05/93  8:20p
Subj: BUSTY 3.0 IS HERE!!  $25                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

___________________________________________________________________________
                    |                                  |
                    O                                  O
                    |                                  |
                +------------------------------------------+
                |  INTRODUCING . . . . . . .               |
                |                                          |
                |       B U S T Y   B A B E S   3.0        |
                |                                          |
                |                 $25.00                   |
                |                                          |
                | She's back, she's better, she's . . . .  |
                | BUSTY BABES 3.0!                         |
                |                                          |
                | New interface + new sizzling pictures!   |
                | Get yours now!  Limited time offer with  |
                | limited quantities.    **  H  O  T  **   |
                +------------------------------------------+

 SPECIAL BONUS:  Get the PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware CD for only $10
                 additional w/ purchase! (Made by Busty's creators)

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 2957
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/05/93  8:23p
Subj: POST?                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris,

One of my customers said you posted a message to me?  If so, please
repost it because I didn't receive it.  If not, sorry to bother you.

Later,
.\\ike
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From: JOHN RICHARDSON                        Number: 2958
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/05/93  6:58p
Subj: Cd-rom system??                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I dont know if this is the area to put this. but here goes

does anyone know who make a good cd-rom drive?for a good price and what is the
average price of a drive? John


... Bit Decay!? Yo say ou have Bi Dcay
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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                       Number: 2959
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 08/06/93  4:27p
Subj: TCM Newsletter...                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Ray!

Please put me on your mailing list:

Jeff Collingwood
1942 Rowley Av
Ramona, CA 92065

Thanks!
...Jeff...

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2960
  To: DAN APPLEHANS                            Date: 08/05/93  6:44a
Subj: Matsushita CD-Rom drive w               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I am searching for a matsushita cd-rom drive.  Actually, I am searchi
-> any drive that will interface with A creative Labs SoundBlaster pro.
AKA Panasonic...

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2961
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/05/93  5:36p
Subj: MPC Programs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HI!
I just got a CD-ROM drive, and I am looking for some MPC titles.
Can anyone give me some suggestions on Encyclopedias, Educational etc..
Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks, Henry

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From: MARK MAREAN                            Number: 2962
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 08/05/93  9:05p
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Does Anyone have a Encyclopedia NEW or in good condition for less tha
->

sure, take mine...you can have Volume A, or B, or C...


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From: BRIAN STARK                            Number: 2963
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/06/93  5:41a
Subj: adult cds                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    In your personal opinion, what adult cd do you think has the most wierd,
strange, and unusual files on it. (Not counting TXT files) It can be XXX.
                         thanks.

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 2964
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/05/93  9:17a
Subj: BEST CDROM PRICES!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for the info
              Sam Figueroa

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From: BOB TRUBE                              Number: 2965
  To: QMAIL                                    Date: 08/06/93  7:58a
Subj: DROP                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Add, Drop, or Reset a Conference.
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From: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                       Number: 2966
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 08/05/93  2:43a
Subj: Re: TCM/Night Owl Newsletter.           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Greg Kwiatkowski
187 Olean St
East Aurora, NY
14052-2521


Thanks!

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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 2967
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/06/93 11:02p
Subj: Groliers Encyclopedia                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am interested in purchasing the Groliers Multimedia Encyclopedia (MacIntosh
Version) to be utilized on an Apple CD300 CD-ROM.  Additionally I am interested
in procurring Microsoft Bookshelf.  Pls forward price quotes to :
Internet: [e-mail]...or
Netmail: 1:109/70.986

Tks...m2

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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 2968
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93 12:59a
Subj: US History CD-ROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am interested in purchasing the US History CD-ROM in a MacIntosh Format to be
used in APPLE CD300 Player.  Pls forward any quotes to this conference or
Internet: [e-mail]

Tks...m2
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 2969
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93  1:03a
Subj: Earth Sciences CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am interested in procurring reference material that surrounds Earth Sciences.
 Primarily, Geological information that high school students could utilize.
Hardware to be utilized is Apple CD300 CD-ROM Player.  Please forward any
qoutes to this echo or via Internet: [e-mail]
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From: DAVE PERKOVICH                         Number: 2970
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/04/93  8:26a
Subj: Winbox CD Problem                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>Great! I'm assuming that the new GUI will be D/L-able from your BBS for
owner
BJ>of the current release (?) .

The new GUI is both freq'able and d/l-able on your first call.  The file you
are
looking for is called WBOXFIX.ZIP.  It will take care of the problems...

Later!
Dave Perkovich
Damar Enterprises Software
The CD PowerBox Guys!


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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 2971
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/06/93  7:19p
Subj: Re: New hard drives                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (04 Aug 93) HENRY PAUL wrote to PAUL SEDILLO...

 HP> ->  QD> Is the Western Digital really that much faster than the
 HP> Maxtor?
 HP> ->  QD> is the throughput on each drive?
 HP> ->
 HP> -> Western Digital from what the trade rags say, is on it's last
 HP> -> leg. As far as the WD2340 being faster than the 7345A, that is
 HP> The Wertern Digital has a bigger cache than Maxtor.
 HP> Seagate drives have more cache and 5400 rpms on their 340mb drive..
 HP> the others have around 3600rpms.
 HP>

I did not know that! Thanks for the info. As for the Seagate
goes, I am not surprised.



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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 2972
  To: RICK MISCAVISH                           Date: 08/06/93  7:20p
Subj: Wanted Hard Drive(s)                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (04 Aug 93) Rick Miscavish wrote to Paul Sedillo...

 RM>  PS> -=- Seagate ST4766
 RM>  PS> -=- 660MB
 RM>  PS> -=- Full Height
 RM>  PS> -=- 14ms/SCSI
 RM>  PS> -=- $800.00
 RM>  PS> We Accept MasterCard/Visa, plus we will ship COD.
 RM>  PS> -!- PPoint 1.35
 RM>  PS>  ! Origin: -=- The Storage Specialists -=- (1:104/332.21)
 RM>

 RM> Always IN-2000 scsi card. So far things look allright fora 660 meg
 RM> hard drive
 RM> for a price like that. TTYL and hope maybe we can do some business
 RM> together.

That Always card is an excellent choice. Glad to see that you
picked out a good one. I sell a great deal of those cards.


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2973
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/06/93 10:36a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <08-01-93 11:32> Blaine Richard wrote:

BR>> What do you have to say Ms. Lee Noga

FYI, FLD has undergone some rigourous litigation since April and you will be
interested to know you, as an "Executive Producer", makes you party to the
*CURRENT* and *ALL* forthcoming lawsuits. So if your goal is to start trouble
in the industry, realize you will be faced with the same consequences as I.
Don't take my word for it, call the 'Go Graphics' forum, and ask for Mr. Wood
at [phone]. Both he and their attorney have expressed a keen interest in
speaking with you.

What do you have to say Mr. Blaine R. Richard the III ? Call Mr. Wood, and show
the world that you have some redeeming qualities--

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 2974
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/06/93 11:25a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <08-01-93 11:32> Blaine Richard wrote:

BR>> Lee what about all the remaining images on Busty Babes the entire
BR>> disc is a total copyright violation not one images on that disc do
BR>> you have licensing rights to so there for the disc is still in
BR>> violation of copyright and any distributor that sells it has the
BR>> possibility of getting nailed for sell and distribution of
BR>> copyrighted material...

Not true ! Obviously, you have yet to spend any money with a copyright
attorney--Copyright law was enacted to protect those things that have redeeming
value--The US Gov't does not feel pornography has redeeming value, via
intellectual property laws--Therefore it does not succumb to the laws of
copyright--

You have clearly illustrated your desire to defamate/slander FLD, and I suggest
you cap it, bub !

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 2975
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/05/93 12:11a
Subj: Need Information Finder Encyclopedia CD-ROM  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for the Information Finder Encyclopedia (World Bood Encyclopedia)
CD-ROM disc if anyone has it for sale or trade.


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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 2976
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 08/05/93 12:16a
Subj: TCM Newsletter...                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send info about Night Owl discs to:  Peter Dettelis, 9250 Pine Cone Rd.,
Colorado Springs, CO 80908-2214.
Thanks.


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From: MICHAEL WEST                           Number: 2977
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/05/93  8:56p
Subj: Re: CD PRICE LIST 2/2                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike,
  Which release of the Hobbes OS/2 disk do you carry?
                        Michael
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From: CJ LUBNER                              Number: 2978
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/05/93  8:07a
Subj: Computer Show - Aug 22                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

=================================================================|
|                         COMPUTER SHOW                          |
||                    SUNDAY - AUG 22, 1993                      |
||                       RADISSON HOTEL                          |
||                       NEW LONDON, CT                          |
||                        10:00 - 4:00                           |
||                     exit 83 off I-95.                         |
||                FOR MORE INFO [phone]                    |
||       1/2 PRICE ADMISSION $2.00 COMPARED TO $4.00             |
||                 WITH THIS PRINTED MESSAGE                     |
|==================================================================
.TABLES ARE STILL AVAILABLE IF YOU WISH TO SET UP A TABLE......   WE
ARE LOOKING FOR A FEW USER GROUPS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SET UP A TABLEAND
PROMOTE THERE ORGANIZATION....

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2979
  To: PAUL SEDILLO                             Date: 08/05/93  2:30p
Subj: Distrib. wanted.                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PS> The Storage Specialists 9400 W. 51st Avenue Arvada CO 80002 Atten:
PS> Paul Sedillo

PS> Our specialty is storage devices (Hard Drives, CD-Roms...). We also
PS> specialize in the whole eSoft, TBBS product line if you need that
PS> product as well.

OK, Paul, I'm interested.....

PandA's PC's
11 Wayside Drive
Danvers, MA 01923-3453

Ph: [phone] FAX: [phone]

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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2980
  To: ALEX MAHAN                               Date: 08/05/93  2:30p
Subj: Nightowl                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AM> Has anybody seen nightowl 8 or 9 going cheap? I need a good cd-rom
AM> with everthing on it (actually my dad does) but I havent seen them
AM> for iunder $30. Thanks for any input, Alex

 NIGHTOWLV9 CDS - Night Owl shareware CD, Version 9     25.00

 PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600
 Mastercard & Visa accepted. Posted on 08/05/93, @ 11:34.



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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2981
  To: JOHN MORRISON                            Date: 08/06/93  9:23a
Subj: Battlechess-enhanced mode               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JM> I am writing this for a friend who doesn't have a modem. He is
JM> looking for "BATTLECHESS"-enhanced mode, on CDrom. Would anyone who
JM> sells it please E-mail me a price including shipping  to Winnipeg
JM> MB.

 BATTLECHES CDG - Battle Chess Enhanced                 30.00

How much would shipping to Manitoba be? I don't know. (Probably about $10.00,
or less, I hope!).

Pat

 PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600
 Mastercard & Visa accepted. Posted on 08/06/93, @ 09:25.


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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 2982
  To: DICK HUDDLESTON                          Date: 08/06/93  8:32a
Subj: Your order                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DH> I just today received the message (Sat 7-31).  My office nr. is

Got it, Dick. Your order will go out Mon.

Pat

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From: MIKE WALKER                            Number: 2983
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/07/93 11:12p
Subj: Re: Looking                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>  MW> Is there such a CD-ROM out there with just Celebrities?  I don't
>  MW>
>  MW> they are riskey (sp?)
> I think the spelling is "risque" but not to worry! I'm not aware of a
> celebrity-only CD 'tho several (incl. Busty Babes) have quite a few on
> them. You might try The MOVIE BBS - they specialize in celeb. pics.
I know I'm already a member of that BBS, just wish they would come out
with a CDROM with all the goodies...

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From: TOM PENLAND                            Number: 2984
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93  4:43p
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HELLO, I'm going to buy a CD-ROM for my computer in the near
future and I was hoping some one could tell me what to look for, the best
one to buy and why.   Thanks

                        Tom


... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done.
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From: CURT LARSON                            Number: 2985
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 08/07/93  5:49p
Subj: Cd-roms drive cables                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Perhaps I have forgotten, but I was thinking that the cables were 6to be
included in those CD-ROMs.  please leave message here or call me at
[phone].  Thanks.

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From: ART BREAULT                            Number: 2986
  To: RON MITCHELL                             Date: 08/07/93  9:01a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Ron I have a mitsumi internal cd drive. I had some proplems with
some programs due to memory.One the cd there is a operating program that
must become resident in memory. Make sure that your system meets all
reguiremnts in the area of hardware other than just the cd rom. What is
your buffer amount, some cds are hard to access if you have this setting
to low. Some cds even require a certian access time, if they do they list
it on the box. Make sure you have enough base memory.If you can load cd
driver in high memory. Increase buffer to max. Make sure you have most
current driver upgrade. Then make sure the operating software on cd can
be handled by your other computer hardware. If the operations file needs
575k in lower memory and you have only 517k then as in a floppy you can
access cetain files and exicute certain functions but if the operations
file doesn't load then the language will not be available for certian
operations and certain files.
Finnaly when all your hair is gone then try booting with a floppy
and not using your hard drive at all. after booting of dos floppy try
accessing cd rom. Only dos operating file and cd drivers will be in memory
if this solves the problem then you have a conflict in your config or
autoexec file. My cd rom drivers are not memory resedent at boot. I use a
menu program that I have set up to load drivers independently of boot.
that saves me base memory.  Lastly read the rom box make sure your system
meets all requirements. If all else fails shoot system and call insurance
company.(grin)


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From: ALLAN KENNEDY                          Number: 2987
  To: JOE HAYES                                Date: 08/07/93 12:04p
Subj: WANT TO SWAP                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > AK> I would like to get a faster cd-rom. I have the folowing items to
 > AK> trade.1. mitsumi cd-rom 800 ms 8 months old w/8bit card & cables

 > I'll make an offer of $75.00 on the 800ms cd-rom drive Allen.

 > -Joe
 Joe I appreciate the offer, but I am hopeing to trade all listed plus maybe a
little booty for a faster cd. thanks for the reply
"BIG AL"

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From: ALLAN KENNEDY                          Number: 2988
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93 12:10p
Subj: WANT TO SWAP                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 * Forwarded from "#037 CDROM_SALE                         "
 * Originally by Allan Kennedy
 * Originally to ALL
 * Originally dated 2 Aug 1993, 16:53

I would like to get a faster cd-rom. I have the folowing items to trade.
1. mitsumi cd-rom 800 ms 8 months old w/8bit card & cables
2. generic super vga card w/512 k mem unused
3. generic 2400 internal modem used
4. segate st238r rll hard drive 33 mb unused (no rails)
5. western digital wd1002a-27x rll controller w/cables unused
6. ms doss 5 still in shrink wrap (archie technologies)
7. ms windows 3.1 shrink pack opened disk pack never opened.

I would prefer less than 400 ms must be complete with all cables and card. If
you are interested leave me a message here or net mail me at 1:2602/120
I am willing to throw in some cash with the above for the right drive.

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 2989
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93  6:44p
Subj: CDROM Drives                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



SCSI CDROMs For Sale:

Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00

Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac.  Features 50 Pin True SCSI,
300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and 64k Buffer.
Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty

205-837-5053 anytime.




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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2990
  To: LARRY CHARPIAT                           Date: 08/03/93 10:44a
Subj: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LC>Can the Pioneer six disk changers access the six different CD ROM disk
  >through a BBS menu with a software switch or command?

Hi Larry.  I am currently running the Pioneer 604X on my Spitfire BBS
with 6 discs online.  I am using SF-Rom as my door.  This works great
due to the features built into the door program.  Multi-node BBSes are
supported, and if a second caller tries to access the drive while the
first is on it, he will receive a busy signal to prevent the drive from
swapping back and forth between disks.  The author, Mike Robinson,
recently released a new version for any BBS that uses the door.sys user
info file.  The name of the file is EZROM120.ZIP and can be downloaded
from Computer Works on the first call.  The Spitfire version is called
SFROM120.zip.  The CD-Rom door that you choose to run CD's from is very
important.

                                                        Jim...
Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS 14.4k

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2991
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/03/93  1:00p
Subj: Computer Works                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Computer Works BBS is online 24 hours per day with over 4 Gigabytes
online.  We have 6 CD-Roms online full time using a Pioneer 604X
CD Changer that has the fastest file transfer rate available to the
"home" market (600 kb/sec).

The current CD selection is:    Night Owl 9     CD Winbox
                                Big Sky ROM     Software Vault 2
                                Busty Babes     Seventh Heaven

Computer Works is an economical place to buy your CD-Roms with our
competitive pricing.  Download catalog.zip for the latest price list
complete with descriptions.  We have questionnaires online for placing
credit card and COD orders.

Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!                                   Jim...
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS  14.4k

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 2992
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/05/93 11:55a
Subj: Big Sky Special                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                               ***Special***
                            Big Sky ROM   $26.00

The price on Big Sky Rom has been reduced from $48 to $26.  This is a
very well put together shareware disc with 668 megs and 7155 files.
There is a file_id.diz file description in each zipped file.  The date
of each zipped file is that of the largest file in the archive, giving a
much more accurate representation than that of many CD-Roms currently on
the market.  Big Sky is very popular on Computer Works BBS, and can be
previewed online.

Computer Works                                  Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders

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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 2993
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 08/06/93 11:19p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Computer Select on CD-ROM is available for $300 for a particular month which
holds a full year of info or on a subscirption basis of one disc per month with
a rotating year worth of info for about $1,000.

I have not used the Bureau's nonfiction product but believe the World Library
CD-ROM is better.  CMC research puts out Shakespear and Sherlock Holmes on
separate CD-ROM discs.  Although they hardly utilize the space on the disc, I
believe the search and retrieval from CMC is better.

Newsweek on CD-ROM retails for $70 and seems to be starting at a street price
of $50.  I believe the price will drop in the future.

The COSUG BBS has switched back to the old phone numbers.  Jeff Shapiro is the
new SysOp.


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From: RICH JACKSON                           Number: 2994
  To: ALAN WILLIAMS                            Date: 08/07/93  4:23p
Subj: Michael Benge                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >-> Up to your old tricks Michael??  How did you go from no kids to three
 >-> kids in the last year?

 > EMFBI, three ladies and a busy social schedule??? ;-))

Couldn't be, he's as queer as a three dollar bill...

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2995
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 08/07/93  5:14a
Subj: Re: BEST CDROM PRICES!!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 01 Aug 93  13:10:43, I heard Sam Figueroa shout to Doug Carpenter:

SF> Doug,
SF>     How much do you sell it for?  Do you have NightOwl 9 for $25 as for
SF> thats what I really want to buy now?
SF>                              Thanks,

Doug,
     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!



               Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney!
                       ****************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 2996
  To: ALEX MAHAN                               Date: 08/07/93  5:17a
Subj: Re: Nightowl                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 03 Aug 93  12:10:49, I heard Alex Mahan shout to All:

AM> Has anybody seen nightowl 8 or 9 going cheap? I need a good cd-rom with
AM> everthing on it (actually my dad does) but I havent seen them for iunder
AM> $30. Thanks for any input, Alex

     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for

                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!

               Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney!
                      *****************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.


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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 2997
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/06/93  8:19a
Subj: Sound Sample CD-ROM Disc                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HI!

I am looking for a CD-ROM with .mid .voc .wav and even .iff and .mod
Can anybody tell me if one exists, and if so where I can get one?
Thanks in advance :)
Henry

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: RICK KOEHL                             Number: 2998
  To: FRANK CALUDA                             Date: 07/29/93 12:36a
Subj: Al-Qadim                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thank you, sir, for welcoming me to this conference.  I myself ran my own
designed campaigns for years - Spelljammer was my first exception, and
Al-Qadim has been my second (well, there was that short stretch with Mayfair's
Invincible Overlord, and then there was Lankhmar).  I also ran a local AD&D by
E-mail for a while, with a 10 player limit.  However, I don't think I would
want to run a Play By E-Mail game on a nation wide chat conference!

Well, thanks again for the welcome.  I should make this note short, for you
must be a very busy person.  There are several thousand letters here to sift
through, and there is no way I would take the time to read 1 tenth of them.
Rick Koehl
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From: PAT RILEY                              Number: 2999
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/07/93  6:58a
Subj: A FEW CHESTNUTS LEFT! 2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS»»    For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of popular
MS»»                    Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!

MS»» 9.  HAM RADIO 3.0 - Excellent collection of HAM and SWL programs and data!
MS»»     Includes packet radio, satellite communications, frequency lists,
MS»»     equipment service, design, mods, logging, news, FAX, FCC, & others.

MS»» 12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for all
MS»»     applications, with an emphasis on games and Windows programs.  Subject
MS»»     include business, clipart, communications, BBS, database, education,
MS»»     finance, games, graphics, religion, sound, utilities, Windows, & more!

OK, Mike, send me these two COD, please.

P.J. Riley
258 W. Union
Edwardsville, IL 62025
[phone]

Thanks....
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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 3000
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/07/93 12:31a
Subj: The monster is back!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 08-03-93  20:58 Mike Shannon shared these words of wisdom:

 LF> planning to order it at work as soon as the budget approval comes
 LF> through.

 MS> Got one set aside for ya darlin'.

The paperwork is churning!

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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 3001
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93 10:24p
Subj: NEC CDR-73/83                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a few NEC CDR-73 and CDR-83 drives..  The 73's are external and
the 83's are internal.

$265 for the CDR-73
$245 for the CDR-83

Leave mail here..

Rob


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From: TROY LYNCH                             Number: 3002
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93  8:03a
Subj: Unix SysVR4.2                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for a CD-ROm with Unix System V Release 4 or 4.2 binaries... I
have heard of a few... just need to find a place I can purchase one or trade
one...
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From: LARRY CHARPIAT                         Number: 3003
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/07/93  5:50p
Subj: Re: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

That did not answer my question.  The Pioneer DMR600 will hold six CD
ROM disk in a cassette in the one cd player.  Can you switch to any of
the 6 CD disc's without manually pressing a button on the Drive through
software from a menu on the BBS?


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3004
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 08/08/93  7:47a
Subj: Re: PROBLEM WITH A CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BF> * SLMR 2.1a * From the Law Offices of Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe.

Just had to steal this one! -- Priceless!

... A feature is a bug with seniority.
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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 3005
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/07/93  8:50a
Subj: MPC Programs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 08-05-93 HENRY PAUL wrote to ALL...

 HP> I just got a CD-ROM drive, and I am looking for some MPC titles.
 HP> Any help will be greatly appreciated!

 Henry, if you are interested in history you might want to check out the
 new 20TH Century Video Almanac by Software Toolworks. It has 164 videos,
 all kinds of pictures etc.. It is relatively new (about 6 weeks), and
 should start to be carried by some of the people that advertise in this
 echo. I saw it at Egghead and bought it from a CDROM title club. >Paul<

... OFFLINE 1.50  "Artificial Intelligence: The other guy's opinion."

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3006
  To: NATE LAWSON                              Date: 08/07/93 12:45a
Subj: 7th guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

NL>I am very interested in the 7th Guest CD.  The lowest price I have seen has
NL>been $49 through mail order.  Anyone have a used version?  Seen a lower
price

Nate,

As many as you want for $46.00.  Call any time.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3007
  To: KEITH SHEEHAN                            Date: 08/07/93 12:45a
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROMS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KS>I've read on the echo about a new Hobbes OS/2 CD-ROM that came out. Do you
KS>carry this disk? I have the Nov 92 which many seem to have but I'd like the
n

Hobbes OS/2 June '93 in stock at $16.00.  Call if you'd like one!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3008
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93 12:45a
Subj: FREQ OUR CATALOG!!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

***************************************************************************
   FREQ OR DOWNLOAD STARVECTOR'S CURRENT CATALOG W/ 300+ CD-ROM TITLES!
***************************************************************************

 To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 300+
 CD-ROM titles that we stock, you may either download our catalog file from
 our BBS, or Freq (file request) it.

 BBS:   509-457-0206 - Download STARCAT.ZIP from <F>ile menu. (1st call)
 FREQ:  1:3407/101 - File request STARCAT.ZIP

 Our new BBS now has an online order door with all our current titles and
 new lower prices!  All callers may d/l our catalog and/or place an order
 on the first call!

 Please feel free to call our BBS at 509-457-0206.  The system is using a
 U.S.R. Sportster 14.4, so you should have no problem logging on at any
 speed between 300bps and 14,400bps.

 While online, you may want to download one or more of the CD-ROM file
 listings that are available also.

 The Starvector BBS is online, and waiting to serve you!  Look for
 continuous updates and improvements in the near future, with more CD
 file listings, new online doors, and more!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3009
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93 12:45a
Subj: CD MASTER LIST PART 1                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 August 1993             DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 8/06
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Microsoft Musical Instruments.58.00
 7th Guest.....................49.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    MIDI Music Shop...............29.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    Monarch Notes.................64.00
 American Business Phonebk 92..19.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 93..39.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...38.50
 Amiga AB20....................15.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....30.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    National Business Directory...39.00
 Audubon's Birds...............25.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............25.00    National Parks................29.00
 Barney Bear Goes to Space.....20.00    Night Owl 4.1.................20.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl 8.0.................27.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....33.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 8/9 2-Pak...........55.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Business Master...............20.00    North American Fax Book.......39.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 California Collection.........17.00    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...19.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    Our Solar System..............13.00
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 CD Winbox (New!)..............27.00    PC-SIG #12....................27.00
 CD Grab Bag Disc..............19.00    PC Gameroom...................27.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pentomino.....................32.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phethean's Shareware #1.......15.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phoenix 3.0...................13.00
 Clipart Galore................28.00    Pier 1........................27.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............35.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........27.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....28.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....22.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Composer Quest................35.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........119.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency... 98.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....69.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........34.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....69.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........33.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........27.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Crossword Cracker.............24.00    Q & A.........................39.50
 Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Reader's Library..............31.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Reel Clips (New!).............44.50
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....36.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...42.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....27.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Eagle Eye Shareware (New!)....25.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Online..............28.00
 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00    Shareware Overload............13.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3010
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93 12:46a
Subj: CD MASTER LIST PART 2                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 August 1993             DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 8/06
 **************************************************************************
                                   2 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Studio 1............20.00
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Shareware Studio 2............25.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........15.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Sights & Sounds...............25.00
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......29.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Find-It Webster...............49.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Font Master 2.................28.00    So Much Shareware 2...........27.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Software Vault 1..............25.00
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....27.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..29.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Soundware Collection (New!)...27.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    SoundWAV......................28.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space Quest IV................24.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Grolier's Ill. Ency. 2.0......38.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........48.00    Street Atlas USA..............86.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......48.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...25.00    Super CD 2....................27.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....16.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Super Games For Windows.......16.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........28.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Technotools...................13.00
 House of Games................24.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..27.50
 Illustrated Holy Bible........47.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.50
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Total Baseball................29.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    Trump Castle..................33.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 King's Quest V................24.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........27.50    Up All Night Shareware (New!).19.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    VGA Spectrum 1................15.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    VGA Spectrum 2................22.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    Visions of Saturn.............25.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    Vital Signs...................45.00
 Lion's Share..................24.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Window Master.................20.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........37.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander II Deluxe......57.50
 Magnum One Shareware..........27.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........27.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Manhole.......................36.50    World Atlas MPC...............27.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............28.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak............45.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 3011
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93 12:27a
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500 internal cd rom drives
for $99.   I have about 20 left.  30 day warranty included.   205-824-2552


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From: EDWARD CROUSER                         Number: 3012
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 08/07/93  9:11a
Subj: Re: THE 7TH GUEST                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IG> Gee.. Paranoid? Actualy I wrote in Howard Phillips Lovecraft, I didn't
IG> like any of the candidates. However your reply was tipical of many people
IG> today. Assume and accuse before thinking.

       Nope...I wuz just wondering since you obviously were annoyed by nothing
much. I don't care what your political view is, as long as you have the right
and ability to express it. There is a thing called "the consititution" you
know?
                                                               Edward
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From: MARCELO RODRIGUEZ                      Number: 3013
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 08/07/93  9:03a
Subj: Tcm/night owl newsletter.               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please add me to your mailing list

Marcelo Rodriguez 187 Peralta Avenue San Francisco CA 94110


Thank you

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From: RON RICHMOND                           Number: 3014
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/08/93 12:16a
Subj: Re: disk                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>Yes, but I didn't send it as maybe you thought it would be a low cost
BO>cd. The current bid on this cd is $300. so I didn't think you wanted me
BO>to charge you card with that amount.

Thanks, you are correct. What is your price for Busty Babes release 2 ?
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 3015
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/08/93  7:25p
Subj: Computer Works                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Computer Works BBS is online 24 hours per day with over 4 Gigabytes
-> online.  We have 6 CD-Roms online full time using a Pioneer 604X
-> CD Changer that has the fastest file transfer rate available to the
-> "home" market (600 kb/sec).
->
-> The current CD selection is:    Night Owl 9     CD Winbox
->                                 Big Sky ROM     Software Vault 2
->                                 Busty Babes     Seventh Heaven
->
-> Computer Works is an economical place to buy your CD-Roms with our
-> competitive pricing.  Download catalog.zip for the latest price list
-> complete with descriptions.  We have questionnaires online for placin
-> credit card and COD orders.
->
-> Computer Works
-> CD-Rom Sales!                                   Jim...
-> [phone] Voice
-> [phone] BBS  14.4k
->
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->  * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)

  Hello Jim,
     Did you get the disk in the mail that i sent you yet? Let me know
when you do ok? thanks
Bubba
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From: MARIO DI MAMBRO                        Number: 3016
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 08/06/93  9:42p
Subj: Re: Encyclopedia                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Darren Sellner to All <=-

 DS> Does Anyone have a Encyclopedia NEW or in good condition for less
 DS> that $35?
 DS>
 DS> Thanks!
 DS>
     I just wanted to say  "NOT LIKELY!"  I paid $180 for mine and it's
     1991 or 92 info.


... NO BRAIN NO PAIN
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From: CHAD STUDY                             Number: 3017
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 12:00a
Subj: AMIGA CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Would someone please make a decent CD with Amiga Shareware / PD files on it.
Sure there is AB20 and Otherware, but lets face it these suck.  I want
something comparible to Pier 2 or Night Owl 9 except featuring Amiga files.
I know there isn't as many Amiga files as IBM...  But if you guys are going to
make CD's with Amiga PD at least make file descriptions comparible to the above
CD's....

* Hey, someone has to complain...

Chad

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From: JASON PAUL                             Number: 3018
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 08/08/93  5:21p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EB>GIFs Galore -- 630 Megs of GIFs

I would be interested in this if you will pay shipping.  Please let me know.

-=-
 * SLMR 2.1a * I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it?

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From: MING CHAN                              Number: 3019
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/07/93  8:58p
Subj: NIGHTOWL                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 ->> On 05 Aug 93  11:07:11, Vince Sorensen said to Alex Mahan:

 VS> Vince
 VS> [phone]
 VS>  ! Origin: SUPERBOARD/CD-ROM WHOLESALERS   [phone] (1:140/121)

Hi Vince:

I have noticed that you are a Canadian CD-ROM retailer, and I would like
to know if you carry a specific CD-ROM title.  I tried calling your
board at the number above during the whole weekend, but all I got was a
busy signal.

I am interested in the following title:

PC-Pix I 646MB,5500+ Gifs,200+ Movies Discription,Nightlog
Images,Gabby's Lounge,Garlique Graphics,Twilight Zone,
Prizm,Farmer Daughter & Suger Magnolia 05/92

If you have it in stock please let me know the total price including
shipping and taxes.  Also let me know if you charge extra for Visa.

Regards,

 -----------------Ming Chan------------------
  Internet:  [e-mail]
             [e-mail]         You are "Ichi Ban"!
   Fidonet:  1:221/203 (City Limits BBS)
 --------------------------------------------


... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?"
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From: YVES DESJARDINS                        Number: 3020
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93  9:28a
Subj: CD for trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

I have the following CD-ROMS for trade.

BattleChess Enhanced Edition
Microprose Mantis & Civilization.

If interested in them, just write down what you want to trade

Yves

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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 3021
  To: ART BREAULT                              Date: 08/09/93  5:20a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

While cruising the net, I heard Art Breault offer some advice to me:

 AB> Hello Ron I have a mitsumi internal cd drive. I had some proplems with
 AB> some programs due to memory.One the cd there is a operating program that
 AB> must become resident in memory. Make sure that your system meets all
 AB> reguiremnts in the area of hardware other than just the cd rom. What is

I haven't even been able to get the CD operating program to load.  I don't
think I need it for my purposes though, I'm using the CD to supplement my file
areas on my BBS.

 AB> your buffer amount, some cds are hard to access if you have this setting
 AB> to low. Some cds even require a certian access time, if they do they list
 AB> it on the box. Make sure you have enough base memory.If you can load cd
 AB> driver in high memory. Increase buffer to max. Make sure you have most

I've tried no buffers, maximum buffers.  On base memory, before loading the BBS
software I have about 620k+.  After loading the BBS I still have 350k more or
less.  I'm running MTMCDE 2.10a now, but that hasn't seemed to make any
difference.

 AB> file doesn't load then the language will not be available for certian
 AB> operations and certain files.
 AB> Finnaly when all your hair is gone then try booting with a floppy
 AB> and not using your hard drive at all. after booting of dos floppy try
 AB> accessing cd rom. Only dos operating file and cd drivers will be in memory
 AB> if this solves the problem then you have a conflict in your config or
 AB> autoexec file. My cd rom drivers are not memory resedent at boot. I use a
 AB> menu program that I have set up to load drivers independently of boot.

One of the salesmen at the dealer seems to think that there might be a conflict
between my SCSI interface and the CDRom.  So I'm going to switch the CDRom out
to another system I have that is identical to the one it's in now except that
this other system has IDE drives.  If it works then, I'll know where the
problem is.  Don't know what I'll do, but I'll know which direction to head in.

 AB> that saves me base memory.  Lastly read the rom box make sure your system
 AB> meets all requirements. If all else fails shoot system and call insurance
 AB> company.(grin)

With my luck, the insurance man is probably reading these messages as we speak
:).

                                  Thanks for the advice,
                                         Ron

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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 3022
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 12:40a
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                  ****  Digital Enterprises  ****
                       Custom CDROM Service

  Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
  produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
  overnight!

   o Complete confidentiality assured.  Your data will NOT be pilfered.
   o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media.
   o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
   o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
   o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
   o Great for:  BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
                 Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
   o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
   o Free UPS Blue label shipping to the Continental U.S.
   o COMING SOON!  Compact Disk AUDIO Production!  COMING SOON!

Pricing for Custom CD production:

o 527 Meg:  o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 139MB
            o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
            o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o 650 Meg:  o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 144MB
            o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
            o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.

o UPS RED Label shipping is $15 extra.


   Data formats Supported:               Software Supported:
 ---------------------------           ----------------------- o 60MB
DC600/6XXX Streaming Tape.  o Sytos Plus o Mountain Filesafe
                                   o Everex Tape

o QIC 40/80  (Colorado Jumbo 250)  o PCTools o Colorado Software

o Floppy (At additional cost)      o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools

o Hard Disk

** 4mm DAT, and 125/250MB 5.25" Streaming tape will be available SOON **

Terms:

  Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
  checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are
  not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.

*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
 For the months of July and August, all orders qualify
 for a 10% discount from our CURRENT pricing.  Offer
 ends August 31, 1993.
*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***

Notice:

Digital will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite", or pirated software
collections on CDROM.  Such activity is morally WRONG and illegal.  If this is
your intention, please do not waste my time or yours.

For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.

Loyd Craft
Digital Enterprises (Name recently changed) 517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM -
6:00PM Monday - Saturday) 517-865-6066 (Customer Support BBS) 1:239/900.0
(Fidonet)

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 * OLX 2.1 * Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3023
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 08/09/93 12:54a
Subj: Re: WHILE THEY LAST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    In a message of <01 Aug 93  01:59:05>, Boris Osadciw
>>    (1:157/46) writes:

>>    Go ahead and send these C.O.D. to me
>>    Learning Adventure
>>    Colossal CookBook
>>    Technotools (2 copies)
>>    Plus 4 caddies
>>    I am sure you have my address by now <grin>.


On it's way...thanks....

Boris Osadciw

... I'm too sexy! You know what I mean!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3024
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/09/93  1:18a
Subj: Re:  Disk                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BO>> >>    Hi Boris, Did you recieve my order on Sat. July 30 for Bus
 BO>> >>    Babes 1.? I left it on your electronic order desk. Thanks,
 BO>> >>     Ron.
 BO>>
 BO>> Yes, but I didn't send it as maybe you thought it would be a low
 BO>> cd. The current bid on this cd is $300. so I didn't think you wa
 BO>> to charge you card with that amount.
>>
>>
>>    This is a joke, isn't it Boris??

Not at all BOB, in fact we now have an offer of $350. for this disk.

Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3025
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/09/93  1:18a
Subj: Re: POST?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Boris,
>>
>>    One of my customers said you posted a message to me?  If so,
>>    please repost it because I didn't receive it.  If not, sorry
>>    to bother you.
>>    Later,

I did ??? That's news to me !!

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: FILUTEK                                Number: 3026
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/09/93  3:47a
Subj: OS/2 and Linux CDROM's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi;

I'm looking for a source of CD's with OS/2 and Linux related
files for my BBS. Any ideas?

Thanx in advance

Jerzy Prekurat


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3027
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/08/93  7:35p
Subj: Re: NIGHTOWL                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

VS>    How about $35Cdn (about $25 US)?
VS>

     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!


               Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney !
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.

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From: JERRY MICKISH                          Number: 3028
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/09/93  1:16a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 I have a hardly used (in new condition) NEC CDR-35 external CD-ROM drive for
sale. The complete package contains an NEC interface card and cable, all
original manuals, and software drivers.
 For the price of $140.00 (negotiable) I will guarantee against DOA and ship
it to your door. If you are intersted, please reply via this echo.



Thanks,   Jerry




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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 3029
  To: DAN EVATT                                Date: 08/08/93  1:45p
Subj: Messages                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DE> Why don't some people start putting in messages, this is boring I
DE> have nothing to read.

Send some, get some....

Give a little, get a little....

See the point?   .

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 * RM 1.0 B0391 * Please see our complete list in the FOR SALE conferences.


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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 3030
  To: DON HANCOCK                              Date: 08/08/93  1:44p
Subj: Programming cd's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DH> Looing for any programming CD's. New, used, doesn't matter as long
DH> as they're readable. Prefer C, C++, Xbase. Source code, libraries,
DH> etc.....

Don, are these what you're looking for?

 CUSERSGROU CDP - C User's Group Library                26.00
 GARBO      CDP - Garbo                                 20.00
 HOBBESOS2A CDP - Hobbes OS2 Archives                   20.00
 NOVA       CDP - Nova                                  30.00
 PROGRAMMER CDP - Programmer's ROM                      37.00
 SIMTEL20   CDP - Simtel 20                             20.00
 SOURCE     CDP - Source CD-ROM                         23.00
 SPRITE     CDP - Sprite                                30.00
 TECHNOTOOL CDP - Technotools                           17.00
 X11GNU     CDP - X11GNU                                25.00

 PandA's PC's, 11 Wayside Dr., Danvers, MA 01923 - 508-750-6600
 Mastercard & Visa accepted. Posted on 08/08/93, @ 13:44.


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From: KEN TULLY                              Number: 3031
  To: KEITH SHEEHAN                            Date: 08/08/93  1:33p
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROMS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Keith.   I just joined this echo, so you probably havn't seen me before.
The disk that Mike is refering to, (I believe), is my disk, and it will be
called the OS2 Quarterly Bible.  It will contain about 550 megs of the latest
Util, Games, CSD'S, IBM Text Files, Several Commercial Demo's, as well as a ton
of other stuff....  It will be BBS ready for both PCBoard, and Files.bbs
systems...   The only hold up on the disk right now is getting the front end
finnished.  I was hoping to have the disk released before Sept 1, but if I have
to wait for the front end to be finnished, it will be about 3 weeks late. Here
is a question for you....  Would you release the disk without a front end,or
would you prefer to wait 2 to 3 weeks longer???.  We could have filled the disk
with 650 or so megs, but we only wanted the premier programs on the disk.  We
didn't see the need to just use "FILLER".  The disk will be release approx 4
times a year, but will only contain PREMIUM material.



                                                Ken Tully
                                                KL Systems

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From: CARL GRAHAM                            Number: 3032
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/09/93  3:19p
Subj: TRADE GAMES FOR REF.                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have Ultima Underworld (The Stygian Abyss) and Wing Commander II..
All docs and registration are in tact....used once...I am not a game
player... I would like to trade these for a Enclylopedia or some other
interesting reference material on CD Rom....Thanks Carl 904-733-4403.

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3033
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 11:24p
Subj: Mitsumi Support                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


Mistumi Electric Co.

Dallas Office:
6210 N. Beltline Rd. Ste. 320
Irving, TX
Tel: [phone]
FAX: [phone]

NY
35 Pinelwan Rd.
Melville, NY 11747
Tel: [phone]
FAX: [phone]

Chicago
2101 Arlington Heights Rd.
Arlington Heights, IL 60005
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Santa Clara
4655 Old Ironsides Dr. Ste. 130
Santa Clara, CA 95040
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3034
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 11:30p
Subj: So Much Shareware III                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

So Much Shareware III $21
Yes, we are selling Night Owl's 9 also for the same price. We also have
hundreds of other titles in stock. For a catalog FREQ CATALOG from 1:138/116 or
1:138/120
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
1-206-473-1634 or 1-800-277-5179 FAX
All major credit cards accepted

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3035
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 11:33p
Subj: Liquadation Discs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD PowerBox $12
CD Winbox   $12
Night Owl's v.9 $21

GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3036
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 11:34p
Subj: Walnut Creek Releases                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

We now have Giga Games in stock!..
Also CICA Windows will be updated next week. We do carry entire line of Walnut
Creek.

GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 3037
  To: KEITH TOWNSEND                           Date: 08/07/93  9:51p
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hiya, Keith!
On Aug 04, Keith Townsend spake thusly to Michael Konor:

 KT>   Like I said the Drive I bought from you seems to be
 KT> working fine..However about once every 15 second the LED
 KT> turns on and off again..this does this continously..Sounds
 KT> like unnecessary Disk access to me..Is this normal for these
 KT> Toshiba drives or could it be a termination thing (It's the
 KT> only SCSI device)..It seems to do it witth both the Asim and
 KT> the CBM software so I don't think It's a software
 KT> thing...Please leave me a note in case I'm worrying for
 KT> nothing...Thanx

i bought 2 CDs from michael konor, and the first drive does that (the led
blinks all the time) but the 2nd one doesnt!  go figure...


\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 3038
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 08/06/93  5:23p
Subj: Re: The 7Th Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

            -=> Quoting Israel Gomberg to Mark Johnsen <=-

 MJ>... Clinton will tax wealthy Americans. Congratulations! You're rich!

 IG> I might have been interested, but I don't do buisness with people who
 IG> show the  distaste of forwarding their unsolicited political views.

 EC> Why don't you rephrase that? What you really meant was, "I
 EC> voted for Clinton and now I'm too embarrassed to tell anyone".
 EC> Edward

Israel, just caught Edward's reply to your message, assume it was to me?
You must've mispelled my last name when sending the reply as I never got it,
but guess the type-o w/my last name was similar to the mistake you may have
made in the voting booth ;)

"distaste of forwarding their unsolicited political views" ?!?  Guess that
means you no longer buy newspapers due to the "unsolicited political views"
run daily, known as political satire...  Let me guess, it was OK for
Dunesberry to run four years of invisible man jokes, but the current material
is "distasteful" ?  Let me know when you're ready to seperate tagline humor
from business and I'll be happy to talk w/you... until then, "Don't blame me,
I voted for..." well, you know the rest!

Regards.

,\\ark




... "C'mon Honey, let me sit in the chair today" - Bill Clinton
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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3039
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/08/93  8:03a
Subj: A FEW CHESTNUTS LEFT! 1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> 3. SOUND SENSATIONS! - Adds multimedia excitement to your system!  In
->    tons of sound effects, music files, jukeboxes, voices, sound clips
->    music voices, etc. in a variety of file formats.
I am VERY interested in this one! Is it just .voc and .wav or does it
have .mid too?

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3040
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/08/93  8:06a
Subj: A FEW CHESTNUTS LEFT! 2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> 13. OUR SOLAR SYSTEM - Exciting NASA and observatory photos of the pl
->     moons, comets, earth, and celestial phenomena!  Includes star loc
->     planetarium programs, astronomical data, voyage simulators, + ton
I'm inerested in this one! do you have any left?

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: MANNY CASAO                            Number: 3041
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 08/08/93  7:33p
Subj: Re:                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Do These CDROM drives come  in the original box?
Are any docs or manuals included? Cables?

What type of warranty in included?

Are you an authorized dealer?

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From: MANNY CASAO                            Number: 3042
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 08/08/93  7:39p
Subj: Re:                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I can offer $20.00 for the Source code cdrom and will prepay if you cover
shipping.



Manny

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From: MANNY CASAO                            Number: 3043
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 08/08/93  7:42p
Subj: Re:                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EB> Source -- Gobs of C code                 $20.00   (MAR 92)
EB> C User's Group  -- More Gobs of C code   $20.00   (OCT 92)

I can offer $30.00 for both of thises disks.


lemme know



Manny

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3044
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 11:06p
Subj: BUY 3 GET ONE FREE!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          -------------* 3 BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!! *--------------

               BUY THIS:                             GET THIS FREE:
  *-----------------------------------*       *--------------------------*
  |   ADULT 3-PAK SPECIAL:            |       |                          |
  |                                   |       |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0     |
  | 1.  ALL BEAUTIES (gif, fli, gl)   |       |     REVISED EDITION      |
  | 2.  HOT PIX 5                     |       |                          |
  | 3.  AMATEUR MODELS (gif, tiff)    |       |     650+MB OF GREAT      |
  |                         *-----*   |       |        SHAREWARE!        |
  *-------------------------| $89 |---*       *--------------------------*
                            *-----*

 Get the three newest and hottest adult CD's on the market for the super
 low price of only $89, and receive a PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware CD
 absolutely free!  This offer is for a limited time only, so hurry!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3045
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 11:06p
Subj: FREQ OUR NEW CATALOG!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

***************************************************************************
   FREQ OR DOWNLOAD STARVECTOR'S CURRENT CATALOG W/ 300+ CD-ROM TITLES!
***************************************************************************

 To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 300+
 CD-ROM titles that we stock, you may either download our catalog file from
 our BBS, or Freq (file request) it.

 BBS:   509-457-0206 - Download STARCAT.ZIP from <F>ile menu. (1st call)
 FREQ:  1:3407/101 - File request STARCAT.ZIP

 Our new BBS now has an online order door with all our current titles and
 new lower prices!  All callers may d/l our catalog and/or place an order
 on the first call!

 Please feel free to call our BBS at 509-457-0206.  The system is using a
 U.S.R. Sportster 14.4, so you should have no problem logging on at any
 speed between 300bps and 14,400bps.

 While online, you may want to download one or more of the CD-ROM file
 listings that are available also.

 The Starvector BBS is online, and waiting to serve you!  Look for
 continuous updates and improvements in the near future, with more CD
 file listings, new online doors, and more!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3046
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 11:06p
Subj: MORE CD'S ON SALE!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

___________________________________________________________________________

                   STARVECTOR CD-ROM BLOWOUT SPECIALS!
___________________________________________________________________________

      - These are special prices, and are for a limited time only.
      - Sale limited to stock on hand, so hurry!

                              GENERAL TITLES
                              --------------
Bibles & Religion...$10   Colossal Cookbook...$10   Our Solar System....$10
Shareware Overload..$10   Windows 93..........$21   SoundWAV............$24
Deathstar Arcade....$10   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15   House of Games......$20
Ham Radio 3.0.......$10   Sound Sensations....$10   Windoware...........$10
Complete Bookshop...$10   Technotools.........$10   Too Many Typefonts..$10
Compton's Interact..$95   Clipart Goliath.....$10   Dictionaries/Lang...$10

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MORGAN LEFAE                           Number: 3047
  To: BETSY RICHLAND                           Date: 08/06/93  7:30a
Subj: LOVE AND ALL                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BR> I still don't understand how a woman can be more rude than a man.

Why do you say this?  Women aren't these rarefied beings, far above the
struggles and dealings of mere mortals such as men...they're just people.
Same as men are people.  And in any group of people you'll find some that
are cruel or kind or sensitive or brutish or considerate or whatever.

Maybe you expected perfection of behavior/attitude and got a human being
instead...it happens.

2cents...
Morgan


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From: MORGAN LEFAE                           Number: 3048
  To: SKYE STRYDER                             Date: 08/06/93  7:39a
Subj: Mists, Dragons, Technolog               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SS> Well, I should know better since I've read "Mists" twice, but I
 SS> think it's a mental block based on the "Lefae" part.

It really should be LeFae but I guess BBSs sometimes have trouble with
strange capitalization.

 SS> you might want to read Robert Jordans 4 tome (at latest count) saga.
 SS> "The Dragon Reborn" is the first of them, I believe.

I've read this one too!  Although I haven't gotten to books 2, 3 or 4 yet.
I've got too many hobbies...I never get much time for any one of them!!

 SS> Fortunately we've been bought, have a new engineering VP and
 SS> hopefully new ideas will be coming to fruition.

At least you've got a positive outlook on the change!  We're in the
process of reorganizing where I am and I'm not sure how I'm going to fit
into the new structure. I'm not worried about it (yet...) but it makes for
uncertain times.  Good luck!

 SS> Hope your life is going well!

Actually, yes it is.  I'm in a very happy, stable relationship (coming up
on 13 years!), we have the home in the country we've always wanted, I just
added to my critter menagerie the other day (2 pygmy nanny goats, we're
looking for a billy), the flood waters are receding, we've actually had a
couple sunny days in a row, and overall my life is very peaceful and
satisfying.  Ok, ok....I'll stop and y'all can take that finger out of
your throat....  <G>

I'm not familiar with the area code in the tagline...whereabouts are you
calling from?

Morgan


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From: MORGAN LEFAE                           Number: 3049
  To: PATCHWORK GIRL                           Date: 08/06/93  8:11a
Subj: Spinning                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I can't remember if this is the right echo, so I hope this gets through...

I just got the book on spinning that I ordered....Somebody Kohl (I
think..), The Whole Catalog of Spinning Craft.  Now I'm hyped...  The
State Fair is coming up in a couple weeks and I plan to find the spinning
demonstration times and go then...even if I have to take a day off work!

The book has this whole section on spinning non-wool stuff that includes
things like milkweed fuzz, cattail fuzz, corn silk, etc.  That just
boggles my mind...that you could spin something like milkweed fuzz. %-]

Anyway, if you have the chance and inclination, would you look up in your
magazines or wherever and see where the spinning supply places are closest
to Des Moines.

Thanks muchly!!
Morgan


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From: RON RICHMOND                           Number: 3050
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/08/93  9:58p
Subj: Re: disk                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>Yes, but I didn't send it as maybe you thought it would be a low cost
BO>cd. The current bid on this cd is $300. so I didn't think you wanted me
BO>to charge you card with that amount.

Thanks, you are correct.  Please cancel my suggested order. I will buy
 Ver. 2 from another vendor for $29. as we discussed on the phone on
 Sunday.                     Thanks,                   Ron.
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From: RALPH R. HANS                          Number: 3051
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 11:20p
Subj: Action File Viewers                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

What file viewers art the best to view action pictures with and do you need one
for every different file extention?

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3052
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/09/93  5:19a
Subj: Night Owl $25                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!


               Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney !
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 3053
  To: JASON PAUL                               Date: 08/09/93 11:05p
Subj: Roms for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> EB>GIFs Galore -- 630 Megs of GIFs

>> I would be interested in this if you will pay shipping.  Please let me
>> know.

    Done.  Send $20.00 check or MO to:
Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

[phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0
    Money Orders are faster, as I don't have to wait for checks to clear.

Thanks,
Eric


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From: RON COLEMAN                            Number: 3054
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 10:53p
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can someone tell me a good quality Adult Cd that has Gif's and animations for
a reasonable cost like around $30 to $40 ? Or any one have a used one for
sale.I only have 1 disk right now and its for my kids (animals).Thanks.

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From: TAMI THOMPSON                          Number: 3055
  To: CHAD STUDY                               Date: 08/09/93  8:47p
Subj: AMIGA CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CS> Would someone please make a decent CD with Amiga
 CS> Shareware / PD files on it.  Sure there is AB20
 CS> and Otherware, but lets face it these suck.  I
What about Hypermedia's Fred Fish Collection (or the one that comes w/the Xetec
Amiga File System or AsimWare's version that accompanies their file system);
the Fred Fish Collection of freely distributable software is now up to 800
disks. There is also Walnut Creek's Aminet CDROM; Aminet is a repository of
Amiga related software, several FTP mirror sites exist around the world
(Internet) - this CDROM is a snapshot of Aminet from JUN93. I think these are
examples of what you are looking for... -Tami

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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 3056
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/09/93  5:40p
Subj: CD MASTER LIST PART 2                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   Hi Mike!

I know that you said you would match or beat any advertised price on a
Cd-Rom disk, right? Locally in El Paso at Computer City, they are
selling Just Grandma and Me (kid's interactive story) for $39.95
everyday. Your catalog lists it for $42.00. Will you meet or beat that
price? What type of proof do you need? Thanks!


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From: RENE MARTINEZ                          Number: 3057
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 08/09/93  6:19p
Subj: Re: tcm/night owl newslet               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Ray Herold <=-

 RH>If you are NOT on our mailing list, but would like to get the latest
 RH>Night Owl news (along with info on discounts we do not advertise in
 RH>the e-mail nets), you may do one of the following:
 RH>    - leave a message here with your name & address

 Please add me to your mailing list.

              The Leech BBS
              Mr. Rene B. Martinez
              138 Redrock Drive
              PO Box 4865
              San Antonio, TX 78213-4526
     Voice  : [phone]
     FAX/BBS: [phone] 14.4k v.32bis, v.42bis


... My V32bs fx/mdm wrks jst fne wthot a 1550 bffrd URT ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 3058
  To: JAMES PRICE                              Date: 08/01/93  4:21a
Subj: CD-ROM CACHING????                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JP>Is there a major <if any> improvement in caching a CD-rom with 435 ms
JP>access time and 150kb transfer rate???

JP>Is there a program that will Cache my CD-rom and my hard drive also??

JP>Saw a public domain program, but it wouldn't work.  I think it said
JP>something about the trial period expired.

JP>If you use a Cache on your drive, please send me a note on how you
JP>like it...



JP>Thanks in advance.




JP>---
JP> * WinQwk 2.0b#872 * 20/20 BBS  Chicago  [e-mail]

JP>--- TMail v1.31.5
JP> * Origin: * 20/20 TBBS * 312-769-1227 @2400 * 275-1785 @9600 (1:115/769)
I use CD Speedway and the only benefit I've found was if viewing gifs on
the cd-rom it stops the jerkyness of the files when they first come up,
if I setup a slideshow in Vpic it dramatically helps! I am, like you
looking for a good cd rom cache program? If I could only find Norton
Speedcache+ at a good price?

                                Sam Figueroa
                                Sam's Software
                                [phone]


 * SLMR 2.1a * 5/" hard is better than 3/" floppy.

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 3059
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/01/93  4:43a
Subj: CDROM Specials                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

BO>American Premier          Officers Bookcase       Canadian Shareware
BO>Between Heaven & Hell 2   Sophistcated Sante Fe   IBM Sampler
BO>TaxPrep '93'              Sherlock Holmes (TxT)   Game Arena
BO>Golden Immortal           Klotski Polish Puzzle   PC Game Room
BO>Mother Earth II           Quick Art ClipArt       PC-SIG 8
BO>Chicano Datebase          PC-SIG Games            LaserTax On CD
BO>Phoenix # 3               Jokes&Pranks            Learning Adventure
BO>Business Assistant        World Travler           Sound Sensation
BO>DeathStar Arcade          Colossal CookBook       ClipArt Goliath
BO>Technotools               Our Solar System        Windoware

BO>************************************************************************

BO>                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
BO>                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
BO>                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

BO>*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

BO>Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
BO>Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
BO>Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
BO>Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

BO>***********************************************************************



BO>Boris Osadciw

BO>... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
BO>--- FMail 0.94
BO> * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46)
 Boris,
        I would like to maybe order 3 cd's, consisting of Busty Babes 3
        for (25), MegaAV for 15 or Sound Sensation for 10, can you tell
        me which sound disc is better and can you give me an address to
        send you a money order and if possible I would like to receive a
        catalog before I order anything!
                                Very Interested,

        Sam Figueroa
        Sam's Software
        Rt 2 Box 2453-A
        Manchester, TN 37355
        [phone]
                                Thanks again!!!!!!!!

 * SLMR 2.1a * 6.9 <--- A good thing ruined by a period.

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From: MIGUEL GARCIA                          Number: 3060
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/10/93  2:42p
Subj: Order                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike,

Thanks for the prompt service on my recent order.  I got it today and
find the Mayo CD outstanding.

Do you have any information on CD's that might be particularly useful
to a law school student? i.e. Black's Law Dictionary, Laws on Disk,
etc.

Also, do you carry the Grolier's Ency. featured in the most recent PC
Mag?

Thanks again.


 * KWQ/2 1.2a * If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test (KWQ Be
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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 3061
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 08/09/93  8:24p
Subj: Welcome!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SF> Thanks for the info
SF>              Sam Figueroa

 Your welcome, Sam.  If there is ever anything that you would like to ask me,
don't ever hesitate to do so.  Also, if you would like a list of all the CD's
that Computer Works carries, i'd be glad to mail one to you, if you would leave
me your address.  Well, i'll ttyl.
                                           Mark
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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 3062
  To: JOHN MORRISON                            Date: 08/07/93 12:25a
Subj: Battlechess-enhanced mode6              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JM> I am writing this for a friend who doesn't have a modem. He is looking
JM> for "BATTLECHESS"-enhanced mode, on CDrom. Would anyone who sells it
JM> please E-mail me a price including shipping  to Winnipeg MB.


 We sell that CD at Computer Works BBS for $65.00. Shipping rates are
$4.00 for up to 5 CD's, and all CD's are shipped 2 Day Priority Mail.

                                               Mark

 Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!
 Online Credit Card Ordering Available!
 [phone] - BBS
 [phone] - Voice
 SysOp - Jim Lambert  CoSysOp - Mark Clardy
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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 3063
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93 12:37a
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  If anyone would like for Computer Works BBS to mail them A list of all
the CD's we carry, please tell me your address, and we will send one to
you.  Thank you for your time.
                                       Mark


  Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!
  Online Credit Card Ordering Available!
  [phone] - BBS
  [phone] - Voice
  SysOp - Jim Lambert  CoSysOp - Mark Clardy
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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 3064
  To: DON DEMAERE                              Date: 07/30/93  5:44p
Subj: Faxes                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <27 Jul 93  07:25:22>, Don DeMaere (1:3402/15) writes:
 >3) I use a Panasonic KXF-110 G3 fax machine
 >FAXMODEMS DON'T WORK. AT LEAST NOT WHEN RECEIVING A FAX.
 >Actually, most work very well sending out a fax. But, that doesn't help
 >me.
They do to work. We use them all the time. Certain fax modems just work better
than others. We have a Cardinal 24/96 Fax modem that will not talk to our GVC
14.4/96 Fax modem, but works with everything else. Other than that, it works
perfect.
 >Come on, vendors. This is the 90's. I know margins are tight, but many
 >fax machines are cheaper than the CD drives you sell, and a dedicated
Do you know where you can get a Fax machine for around $200? If so, I'd like
to know where. I think Walmart use to have them, but not anymore...

For SAle: VGA Spectrum II - $17

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From: FRANK CALUDA                           Number: 3065
  To: RICK KOEHL                               Date: 08/10/93  6:59a
Subj: Al-Qadim                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I think I should inform you that you replied to my message in a different
conference than the one I wrote to you in. I received thid message in the
CDROMS for sale echo. Just thought I'd let you know.

Frank

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 3066
  To: MIKE WALKER                              Date: 08/09/93  9:09a
Subj: Re: Looking                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Bob Jackson <08-07-93 23:12> Mike Walker wrote:

MW>> > celebrity-only CD 'tho several (incl. Busty Babes) have quite a few

Note, Release 3.0 does not have any celebs on it--Ecstasy another adult CD has
a couple dirs of them also--Boris, has release BB 2.0 and you can find him in
this echo--All the earlier versions of BB have celebs on them.

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 3067
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/09/93  9:13a
Subj: Re:  Disk                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Boris Osadciw <08-07-93 08:24> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>>  BO> >>    Babes 1.? I left it on your electronic order desk.
BJ>>  BO> The current bid on this cd is $300.

BJ>> This is a joke, isn't it Boris??

Bob believe it or not this is no joke--The BB 1.0 disc's are going for premium
dollar, and Boris last week sold one for $250.00--I am sure that he is down to
1 or 2 left, and the consumers are bidding him to sell them against his
desires--:)

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: MARIO DI MAMBRO                        Number: 3068
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/09/93 12:45p
Subj: Cd Chess Game                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I noticed you sell cd's and cd stuff, so I thought I would ask you if the
new game Chess Meister 5 Billion & 1 is available on CD?  I saw it on disk
at a local software store, but it take 27 Megs on the HD so I was hoping
I could get a copy on CD.

... Silver Xpress? Its tracks were washed out by a Blue Wave!
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From: MARIO DI MAMBRO                        Number: 3069
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/09/93 12:48p
Subj: Cd Chess Game                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I s the new game Chess Meister 5 Billion & 1 available on CD?  I saw it at
a local software store, but it take 27 Megs on the HD so I was hoping I
could get it on CD instead.


... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 3070
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/07/93  8:03p
Subj: RED HOT                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <03 Aug 93  01:46:10>, Boris Osadciw (1:157/46) writes:

 > HOT PIX 5
 > PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK
 > AMATEUR MODELS
Tell me more about these discs, please??

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From: ART GIESE                              Number: 3071
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 11:15p
Subj: External CDROM for Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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       XXX    XX XXXXXXX XXXXXXX      XXX    XX XXXXXXX XXX     XXXXXXX
       XXXXXX    XXXXXXX XXXXXXX      XXXXXXXXX XXXXXXX XXX     XXXXXXX
       XXXXXX    XXX XXX XXXXXXX        XXXXXXX XXXXXXX XXX     XXXXX
       XXX       XXX XXX XXXXXXX      XXX   XXX XXXXXXX XXX     XXXXX
      XXXXX      XXXXXXX XXX XXX      XXXXXXXXX XXX XXX XXXXXXX XXXXXXX
       XXXX       XXXXXX  XX  XX       XXXXXXXX  XX  XX  XXXXXX  XXXXXX
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External CD ROM, Controller, Cable, Setup Software, DOES NOT USE DISK CADDIES.
Nice smooth operating drive. $200. Call ART [phone],Colorado Springs.


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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 3072
  To: KIRK REEVES                              Date: 08/09/93  3:48p
Subj: trade simms for cd-rom                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Up here in Canada you could get simms for $50.

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 3073
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/09/93  3:51p
Subj: Games                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HI everyone,  if you have ANY CD-ROM games that are along the Sierra lines, or
as long as it's along the format of a Sierra game.  Please tell me what games
you have and would like to get rid of.  Thank-you.

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 3074
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/01/93  6:28p
Subj: CD ROM Discs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

       Complete list of all available titles from C.S.S.
              See end of list for ording options.

7th Guest                                      60.00
Adventures of Willy Beamish                    35.00
Aircraft Encyclopedia                          42.00
American Business Phonebook 1                  24.00
American Business Phonebook 2                  33.00
Amiga AB20                                     21.50
AMSoft World of Ham Radio                      34.00
Animals MM San Diego Zoo                       32.50
Animals MPC San Diego Zoo                      32.50
Arthur's Teacher Trouble                       34.00
Audobon's Birds                                32.00
Audobon's Mammals                              32.00
Barney Bear Goes to School                     27.00
Barney Bear Goes to Space                      27.00
Battle Chess Enhanced                          37.00
Beauty and the Beast                           37.50
Bible Library                                  36.00
Bibles and Religion                            21.50
Britannica Family Choice                       38.50
Britannica Select Software                     38.50
Business Master                                25.00
Business Master                                25.00
C User's Group Library                         36.50
California Collection                          22.00
Career Opportunities                           34.00
Carmen Sandiego Deluxe                         33.50
CD PowerBox                                    39.00
CD WinBox                                      39.00
Chessmaster 3000                               32.00
CIA World Fact Book                            29.00
CICA Microsoft Windows                         21.00
Classic Collection Plus 4-Pack                 59.00
Clipart Galore                                 37.50
Clipart Goliath                                21.50
Clipart Heaven                                 34.00
Colossal Cookbook                              21.50
Complete Bookshop                              21.50
Composer Quest                                 43.50
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia             14.00
Compton's MPC Encyclopedia                     84.00
Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia              84.00
Conan the Cimmerian                            40.00
Consumer Information Disc                      44.00
Crossword Cracker                              29.50
Danger! Hot Stuff                              25.00
Danger! Hot Stuff II                           30.00
Deathstar Arcade Battles                       21.50
Desert Storm                                   41.00
Desktop Bookshop                               33.50
Dictionaries and Languages                     21.50
Dictionary of the Living World                 43.50
Dinosaur Adventure                             39.00
Education Master                               25.00
Electronic Home Library                        42.00
Encyclopedia of Clipart                        33.00
Encyclopedia of Sound                          27.00
Family Doctor                                  34.50
Font Master I                                  24.00
Font Master II                                 33.00
Food Analyst                                   41.50
Fresh Arte                                     41.00
Front Page News                                31.00
Game Master                                    25.00
Game Pack I                                    30.00
Game Pack II                                   32.00
Games 1993                                     33.00
Garbo MS-DOS/MAC                               20.50
GIF's Galore                                   21.50
Gigabtye Gold                                  30.00
Global Explorer                                02.00
Golden Immortal                                30.00
Great Cities, Volume 1                         30.00
Great Cities, Volume 2                         30.00
Great Wonders of the World                     48.00
Guinness Disc of Records                       32.00
Hacker's Chronicles                            32.00
Ham Radio 3.0                                  21.50
Hobbes OS/2 (OS/2 Archive CD-ROM)              21.00
House of Games                                 34.00
Illustrated Holy Bible                         54.00
Interactive Story Time, Volume 1               30.00
Interactive Story Time, Volume 2               30.00
International Business and Economic Atlas      29.50
Jedi Collection 3-Pack                         54.00
Jets and Props                                 36.50
Jones in the Fast Lane                         28.50
Just Grandma and Me                            47.00
KGB World Fact Book                            38.00
Kings Quest V                                  30.00
Klotski                                        24.00
Languages of the World                         53.00
Library of the Future, 1st Edition             59.50
Libris Britannia                               49.00
Lion's Share                                   33.00
Loom                                           30.00
MacMillan Children's Dictionary                44.00
Magazine Rack                                  29.50
Magnum One Shareware                           34.00
Marketing Master 1992                          24.00
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing                    33.50
Mayo Clinic                                    40.00
Microsoft Bookshelf                            63.00
Microsoft Cinemania                            63.00
Microsoft Works                                63.00
MIDI Music Shop                                37.00
Mixed Up Mother Goose                          29.50
Monarch Notes                                  69.00
Money, Money, Money!                           29.50
Monster Disc 2-Pak                             49.00
Mother Earth 2                                 33.00
Mother of all Clipart                          29.00
MPC Wizard for Windows                         19.00
National Business Directory                    44.00
National Geographic Mammals                    32.00
National Parks                                 37.00
Night Owl's Business Disc                      29.00
Night Owl's Business Disc                      29.00
Night Owl's v4.2                               27.00
Night Owl's v5.0                               28.00
Night Owl's v6.2                               29.00
Night Owl's v7.0                               30.00
Night Owl's v8.0                               34.00
Night Owl's v9.0                               39.00
North American Fax Book                        54.00
Ocean Digital Imagery                          50.00
Original Shareware 1992                        23.00
Otherware I                                    30.00
Our Solar System                               21.50
Pascal Paradise on CD-ROM                      39.00
PC Gameroom                                    33.50
PC Medic                                       38.00
PC-Sig #12                                     35.00
Peter and the Wolf                             32.00
Phoenix v3.0                                   26.50
Pier 1                                         34.00
Pier 2                                         50.00
Plant Doctor                                   42.00
Profiles of Colleges                           39.00
Programmer's MegaPack                          39.00
ProPhone 1993                                  33.00
Publique Art                                   41.00
Publish-It!                                    34.00


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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 3075
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/01/93  6:28p
Subj: CD ROM Discs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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Publisher's Dream Disc                         43.50
Publisher's Paradise                           40.00
Reader's Library                               37.50
Reference Library                              32.50
Return to the Moon                             43.00
Roger Ebert's Movie Companion                  48.00
Sci-Fi                                         33.50
Secret of Monkey Island                        30.50
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe                33.00
Shakespeare                                    22.50
Shareware Extravaganza                         49.00
Shareware Online                               34.00
Shareware Overload                             21.50
Shareware Studio I                             26.00
Shareware Studio II                            32.00
Sherlock Holmes                                22.50
Sherlock Holmes, Consulting Detective          30.00
Simtel 20                                      21.00
So Much ScreenWare                             33.00
So Much ShareWare I                            27.50
So Much ShareWare II                           34.50
Software Vault                                 30.00
Software Vault II                              34.00
Sound Sensations                               21.50
Sound Works                                    24.00
SoundWAV                                       34.00
Source Code CD-ROM                             25.00
Space Quest IV                                 30.00
Spirit of Excalibur                            43.50
Sporting News                                  31.00
Sports Best on CD                              33.50
Stellar 7                                      30.00
Street Atlas USA                               93.00
Super Games for DOS                            23.00
Super_CD                                       30.00
Super_CD II                                    34.00
Talking Jungle Safari                          42.50
Talking Schoolhouse                            42.50
TechnoTools                                    21.50
Tempra Access Photo CD Software                37.50
Terrorist Group Profiles                       45.00
Time Magazine Compact Almanac                  33.50
Timetable of History: Science and Innovation   31.00
Too Many TypeFonts                             21.50
Toolworks Illustrated Encyclopedia 2.0         44.00
Toolworks MPC Encyclopedia 1.0                 54.00
Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia 5.0          54.00
Total Baseball                                 40.00
U.S. & World Atlas                             34.00
U.S. Atlas with AutoMap                        34.00
U.S. Presidents                                42.00
VGA Spectrum I                                 22.00
VGA Spectrum II                                30.00
Visions of Saturn                              30.00
Vital Signs                                    44.00
Wild Places                                    29.00
Window Master                                  25.00
Windoware                                      21.50
Windows 1993                                   33.00
Windows Shareware Gold                         42.00
Wing Commander II Deluxe                       63.00
Wing Commander/Ultima VI                       30.00
Wing Commander: Secret Missions                34.00
WizPak                                         22.00
World Atlas                                    34.00
World of Flight                                39.00
World of Trains                                39.00
World Traveler                                 24.00
World View                                     29.00
World Vision 3-Pak                             52.00
Wrath of the Demon                             43.00


VISA/MASTERCARD/DISCOVER/AMEX/CHECK/COD accepted. All can be ordered
online by calling 517-263-0273 or voice at 517-263-0017, Mon-Fri
1pm-7pm. Or you can contact me via netmail at the below address.

Chris

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 3076
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/09/93 11:35p
Subj: C.S.S.                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Shop at home using your PC! Low prices on many, many items. Magazines, CD's,
Tapes, Albums, Gifts, Novelties, Adult Toys, & much more!

The mall is growing daily. For a current listing of just some of our items,
F'req:

CSSMAGS......Magazine Subscriptions. Lowest prices, guaranteed! 900+ selections
>CSSPCCDS.....Low price CD's for your ROMs. Credit Cards Accepted!
CSSTAPES.....Low Price Cassette Tapes. Great Selection. Growing Daily
CSSCDS.......Low Price Music CD's. Great Selection. Growing Daily.
CSSSHARE.....Catalog of shareware. Over 6000 titles!!!
CSSBOOKS.....Collection of books covering many subjects

You can also view are mall online by calling 517-263-0273.

For more information call C.S.S. at 517-263-0017 1pm - 7pm/Mon. - Fri.

SYSOPS!!! Make these files available to your users and earn a commission! File
          request SYSOPAPP from 1:2470/11 or 1:2470/16.

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From: DAVID HARRISON                         Number: 3077
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 08/10/93  1:40a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JM>  I have a hardly used (in new condition) NEC CDR-35 external CD-ROM drive f
JM> sale. The complete package contains an NEC interface card and cable, all
JM> original manuals, and software drivers.
JM>  For the price of $140.00 (negotiable) I will guarantee against DOA and shi
JM> it to your door. If you are intersted, please reply via this echo.
I am interested in your drive there, but I am worried about long distance
sales...  Why dont you call me voice at 214-252-5644 sometime today/tomorrow
if you can...

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3078
  To: LARRY CHARPIAT                           Date: 08/10/93  1:28a
Subj: Re: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    That did not answer my question.  The Pioneer DMR600 will hold
>>    six CD ROM disk in a cassette in the one cd player.  Can you
>>    switch to any of the 6 CD disc's without manually pressing a
>>    button on the Drive through software from a menu on the BBS?

The cd changer will work the same as your hard drive. When a user
selects a file area, the changer will swap disks to the proper area
without your help. It's all in the way you configure your BBS or Door
program, since you enter a path in the systems file base.

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3079
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/10/93  1:28a
Subj: Re: Sound Sample CD-ROM Disc            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    HI!

>>    I am looking for a CD-ROM with .mid .voc .wav and even .iff
>>    and .mod Can anybody tell me if one exists, and if so where I
>>    can get one? Thanks in advance :)
>>    Henry


We have a disk called " Soundware " that offer's all of the above and
more and is BBS ready as well. It claims to be the largest selection
of sound files in the world.

Interested, it's only $25. and well worth it. Give us a call at
216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to fill your needs. We also
have several other sound disks as well.

Hope this helps...

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same!
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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3080
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/09/93 10:52p
Subj: Re: PROBLEM WITH A CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ> BF> * SLMR 2.1a * From the Law Offices of Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe.

BJ>Just had to steal this one! -- Priceless!

It's from the National Public Radio program "Car Talk" with Click
and Clack the Tappet brothers.  Check it out, good advice, great
humor.

 * SLMR 2.1 * Unable to locate Coffee -- Operator Halted!

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From: PAT GANNON                             Number: 3081
  To: TERRY MCDILL                             Date: 08/05/93  7:03p
Subj: The 7th Guest and Mitsumi CD-Roms       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi, I just saw an ad for 7th Guest for $25 on this board fromJohn Anderson, and
I don't see why you wouldn't be able to run it on a Mitsumi cd rom drive with
350ms access time. GO FOR IT!!!

-James Douglas Morrison


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From: LESLIE THOMAS                          Number: 3082
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/09/93  7:37a
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am interested in buying  a used CD Rom that is comptatible with using
the SBPro as a controller.  Anyone have one they are interested in parting
with?

    WinQwk 2.0 a#0


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From: DICK WILSON                            Number: 3083
  To: LARRY CHARPIAT                           Date: 08/09/93  5:57a
Subj: Re: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LC-|That did not answer my question.  The Pioneer DMR600 will hold six CD
LC-|ROM disk in a cassette in the one cd player.  Can you switch to any of
LC-|the 6 CD disc's without manually pressing a button on the Drive through
LC-|software from a menu on the BBS?

If I may butt in - I believe that you are asking about using software
OTHER than the software that comes with the Pioneer - if so, the answer is
YES.  I am using two of these devices on my BBS using ROMDOOR software.
ONLY 1 disk can be accessed at a time, but by using this software, and
allowing 'copy to hd prior to d/l' I have had great success with my users
on my multi-node.

 * OLX 2.1 * Of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the most!


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From: BERNARD TIBBETTS                       Number: 3084
  To: LARRY CHARPIAT                           Date: 08/10/93  5:28p
Subj: Re: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> That did not answer my question.  The Pioneer DMR600 will hold six CD
-> ROM disk in a cassette in the one cd player.  Can you switch to any of
-> the 6 CD disc's without manually pressing a button on the Drive through
-> software from a menu on the BBS?

I have been using one of this things for over 6 months and like the advanages
it gives you. In response to your question, yes each cd is adressable as a
drive letter. Its your software driver that interfaces the drive to the system.

However, when you change to another drive, the pioneer has to change the
platter. This slows the access down. This is why you need a good door.

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From: RICK KOSICK                            Number: 3085
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/09/93  5:43p
Subj: MAC TITLES?                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for some good Mac cd titles to put on a BBS. Does anyone
have any good mac titles available?? If so, please contact me at (215)
638-1424 voice.....

-Rick Kosick, Modern BBS Development

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3086
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 08/09/93 10:24p
Subj: MPC Programs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->  Henry, if you are interested in history you might want to check out
->  new 20TH Century Video Almanac by Software Toolworks. It has 164 vid
->  all kinds of pictures etc.. It is relatively new (about 6 weeks), an
Thanks! I'll check into it. If you know of any others, LET ME KNOW!!!
Thanks again,
Henry

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3087
  To: DAVID SEITZ                              Date: 08/09/93  6:20p
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Also Please add me to your Mailing List..Thanks
->
-> --- WM v3.00/93-0188
-> * Origin: The HOTLINE BBS (215-393-8594)  (1:273/740.0)

Hi David!

   I'd be more than glad to... What's your address?

   Vince
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From: MAHMUT KURSUN                          Number: 3088
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/09/93 10:34a
Subj: GIGAGAMES                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Gigagames CDROM     39.95 US$
it's available now. 400+ MB DOS/Windows Games

Kursun CDROM Versand          +s/h and Tax within European Community
Karl-Marx-Ring 148            Pay with VISA Creditcard or COD within Europe
81737 Munich - GERMANY
tel: ++49-89-6378421
fax: ++49-89-6378429

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From: STEPHEN DURFEE                         Number: 3089
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/09/93  8:28p
Subj: <> TALON CD-ROM + SOUND CARD <>         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Talon TA-150 CD-ROM internal unit for sale.  Photo CD compatible.  350ms.
Plays audio CD's w/o software + advance track switch on face.  Comes with Mayo
Family Health, Encyclopedia, etc.  Also, 8 bit SoundBlaster compatible audio
board w/ cheap speakers and mike.  $300.  Email or call Steve at 571-8989.


=|-) Steve





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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3090
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/10/93 12:03a
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> )))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((
->
-> NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
-> period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
-> bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
-> who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
-> viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.
->
->                       PRICE - $25.00
->
-> To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263
->
-> )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((
->
->
->
-> Boris Osadciw
->
-> ... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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->
Is that busty babes 3.0?


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3091
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 08/10/93 12:04a
Subj: SegaCD's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Hello!
->  I have the following SegaCD's for trade(for PC Compatible CD-Rom's)
->
->
-> Sega Classic's (Streets of Rage,Revenge of Shinobi,Columns,Golden
-> Axe)/Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective (2 CD's in double holder)
->
-> Sol-Feace
->
-> Double CD/CD+G package(various artists,including Chris Issak,Jimi
-> Hendrix,Fleetwood Mac,etc.)
->
->
-> If interested,please leave me a message here,
->
->                        Thank You,
->
->                                      Diana
->
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->  * Origin: -=BerthaBoard=- Manteca, Ca. [phone]/239-9853 (1:20
->

Is that cd+g any good? My cdtv player can play that,,,what exact artists
are on it and what price do you want for it?

btw,
where did you buy that?


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3092
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/10/93 12:10a
Subj: A FEW CHESTNUTS LEFT! 2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->              *-------------[ CHESTNUT CD SALE! ]-------------*
->                                 pg. 2 of 2
->
->    For a limited time, Starvector is offering the complete line of po
->                    Chestnut CD-ROMS at only $10.00 each!
->
-> TITLES INCLUDE:
->
-> 8.  CLIPART GOLIATH - Over 10,000 image files in PCX and TIF formats,
->     some in color-TIF/PCX, MAC, GIF, etc. Files can be imported to vi
->     every desktop publishing program! Subjects include: Americana, An
->     Business, Computing, Entertainment, Food, Holiday, Music, People,
->     Religion, Science & Medicine, Signs, Sports, Cartoons, & many mor
->
-> 9.  HAM RADIO 3.0 - Excellent collection of HAM and SWL programs and
->     Includes packet radio, satellite communications, frequency lists,
->     equipment service, design, mods, logging, news, FAX, FCC, & other
->
-> 10. COLOSSAL COOKBOOK - Over 4000 recipes, far more than the "Joy of
->     Cooking".  Includes excellent recipe cross-reference and search!
->     Includes health/nutrition guides, ethnic and regional recipes, me
->     planning, low-cholesterol diets, cooking instructions, & more!
->
-> 11. BIBLES & RELIGION - All popular New & Old Testament versions, Boo
->     Mormon, Talmud portions, lexicons & concordances, study guides,
->     organization membership & fund-raising programs, etc.
->
-> 12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for al
->     applications, with an emphasis on games and Windows programs.  Su
->     include business, clipart, communications, BBS, database, educati
->     finance, games, graphics, religion, sound, utilities, Windows, &
->
-> 13. OUR SOLAR SYSTEM - Exciting NASA and observatory photos of the pl
->     moons, comets, earth, and celestial phenomena!  Includes star loc
->     planetarium programs, astronomical data, voyage simulators, + ton
->
->  ALL TITLES ARE ONLY $10.00 each!  BONUS OFFER:  So Much Shareware 3
->  $25 with any Chestnut purchase!
->
->             >>> WE CANNOT BE UNDERSOLD ON CHESTNUT CD'S!!!! <<<
->
->  Hurry though, our stock on these is almost depleted, and once it's g
->  back to the regular price!
->
->  STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (
->  VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING $4 up to 5 pcs * 509-457-2966
->
-> ---
->  * SLMR 2.1a * Used taglines for $ale - 8 bits each. Call 555-FUNY
->
-> --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
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->
Send me Clipart Goliath
Colossal Cookbook
Out solar system

Vito A Servideo
1636 se 3rd court
Deerfield Beach, fl 33441

C.o.d.
Reply with total cost so I could get a money order ready


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From: B.A. CROWELL                           Number: 3093
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/10/93  6:40p
Subj: CD ROM Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike,
    I saw your ad for CD's in this echo.  Do you carry Drives as well?  If you
do I am interested in a 3 or 4 stand alone type for a BBS.  Can ya help?

                                                 Bruce Crowell
                                                 C.I.N.S. BBS
                                                 (Coming Soon)

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From: SAM FERTITTA                           Number: 3094
  To: LEE MILLIGAN                             Date: 08/06/93  8:51a
Subj: Re: adult titles                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Lee Milligan to Dave Reed <=-

 LM> * In a message originally to JOHN ROBINSON, Dave Reed said:
> JR>> Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS

 > JR> Nice prices...........

 > JR>> ... If Clinton is the answer, it must have been a stupid
 LM> question!

 > JR> Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

 > I'm proud of her.  As more of the silent majority become
 > vocal about their political feelings, Clinton's going to feel
 > like a little man in a big house, real soon now.  At this
 > rate, I'll be able to publish a CD-ROM full of Clinton's
 > mistakes by the end of summer.  He's such a joke, I'll have
 > to market it as a comedy, though.  ;-)


 > ... My Broad Based Contribution - Kick Hillory in the butt!

LM> 'Scuse me for butting in....but let me know when you compile that
 LM> 'Clinton's Mistakes' CD......I would like to purchase
 LM> one......thanks... -!- FMail 0.94

 LM,
 Yeah, I would like to buy one also. But at this rate, it might be a
 2 disker, or 3, or 7....................
 Sam.....


... The 1st thing that Clinton wanted on his desk was Flowers. ___ Blue
Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: MIKE PARISI                            Number: 3095
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  1:08p
Subj: donations                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Well Im starting a program... A DONATION OF COMPUTERS... There are millions
of computers out there that are beign thrown away... And MILLIONS of KIDS
who need computers... If you send me your SOFTWARE, COMPUTERS <even broken
ones, and pieces of computers>, and utils... I will take them apart, use some
of them, then piece the parts together for kids how don't have the money for
computers. This Idea will help only if people send me there stuff... so I can
fix it up.... I WILL NOT SELL YOUR STUFF AND WILL RESPECT YOUR OPINION...
PLEASE WRIGHT BACK OR CALL ME VIA-MODEM AT 716 425-8963... I will also except
derect orders to Mike G Parisi, 24 chipping ridge, Fairport ny, 14450...

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3096
  To: MARK SMITKA                              Date: 08/10/93  1:03a
Subj: Got 'em!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>I wanted to let you know that I received my order (NightOwl 7 & 9) in fine
MS>shape. And for those that may be reading this wondering whether or not Mike
MS>lives up to his pricing policies....he does.

Glad to hear it Mark.  Whenever you have another "price challenge" for
me, don't be shy!  8)

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3097
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  1:03a
Subj: SOME NEW ADULT CD'S!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

***************************************************************************
            NEW ADULT CD'S AVAILABLE FROM STARVECTOR . . . .
***************************************************************************

 Busty Babes 3.0...............33.00    After Dark Trilogy (movies)...45.00
 All Beauties..................36.00    Southern Beauties.............35.00
 Amateur Models................35.00    Dirty Talk (movie)............59.00
 Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00    Girls of Vivid 1 or 2.........45.00

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

---
 * SLMR 2.1a * The magic of Windoze: Turning a 486 into an XT.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3098
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  1:03a
Subj: COMPTON'S INTERACTIVE!!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                     COMPTON'S INTERACTIVE ENCYCLOPEDIA
   S                  ----------------------------------
     A
       L             Retail........................$298
         E           Typical Store price...........$149
           !
                     Starvector's price.............$95!!

    Now's your chance!  Get the encyclopedia everyone's talking about.
    Compton's Interactive MPC encyclopedia has something for everyone!

    Check out these features:

        * Zooming world atlas w/ more than 121,000 hypertext links
        * Virtual workspace to open multiple windows in a virtually
          limitless workspace
        * Enhanced sound and full-motion video
        * Thousands of pictures, drawings, and photos
        * Merriam-Webster Online dictionary and thesaurus
        * Ten ways to access information
        * Free upgrade to '93 version with registration

    Requirements:  386SX/16 or better CPU, Windows 3.1, DOS 3.1+,
                   VGA display, Microsoft-compatible mouse, CD-ROM
                   drive w/ 150kb per second transfer rate or higher,
                   Microsoft CD Extensions 2.2 or higher, 4mb RAM, 8
                   or 16-bit sound card.

      Don't want to lay out $200+ for Encarta?  Compton's Interactive
      is *very* similar for A LOT LESS!  Get 'em while we've got 'em!

                                ** $95.00 **

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

---
 * SLMR 2.1a * ...Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball...

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From: TONY DAVIS                             Number: 3099
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/10/93 11:05a
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >Then there are those crazy dealers like me who like to live
 >life on the edge. I'll take ALL THE BUSTY'S I CAN GET MY HANDS ON!


You are certainly correct, you are on the edge.

On July 20th, I was arrested and all my BBS equipment was seized. If
found guilty, I am facing 15 years / $25,000 for sale & possession of
obscene material.

That 'edge' is not a real comfortable place to be.


Tony

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From: DON BRADEN                             Number: 3100
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/10/93  6:08p
Subj: re order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike, on July 18 I faxed you an order. Did you get the fax? and Is the
order on the way? Thanks
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: STEVE PROCTOR                          Number: 3101
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93 12:21p
Subj: CDROM Drives                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a inexpensive CDROM Drive and was wondering what you all
recomend.  I will be using it for the BBS mainly, but may play a few
music CD's in it every once in awhile or even a few Multi-Media games, so
it should meet MultiMedia standards.

I have been looking at my local computer papers and see the MITSUMI with
controller going for around $185.00.  Is this a SCSI CDROM Drive?  I need
it to be SCSI as I will use it with my Adaptec 1542B or ProAudio Spectrum
Sound Card SCSI controller.

Anyone have any recomendations and some prices?

Steve



... Your Win-OS/2 BBS
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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 3102
  To: MANNY CASAO                              Date: 08/10/93  2:34p
Subj: Source CDRom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> I can offer $20.00 for the Source code cdrom and will prepay if you cover
>> shipping.

    I really have to get the $20 + $5 shipping for this one.  This CDRom
is still current, and retails for $39.95, so I really don't want to go
any lower.
    Write back if you can do the $25.

Thanks,
Eric


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 3103
  To: MANNY CASAO                              Date: 08/10/93  2:37p
Subj: Source and CUG                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> EB> Source -- Gobs of C code                 $20.00   (MAR 92)
>> EB> C User's Group  -- More Gobs of C code   $20.00   (OCT 92)
>>
>> I can offer $30.00 for both of thises disks.

    Sorry, as per my last message, the source is a $39.95 disk, and the
CUG is $49.95 (retail).  I really have to get the $40.00 + $5.00 shipping
for both.

Eric


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 3104
  To: MANNY CASAO                              Date: 08/10/93  4:45p
Subj: Re:                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Do These CDROM drives come  in the original box?
>Are any docs or manuals included? Cables?

Box, no.  These are originally Intergraph pulls. Manuals-Yes. Cables-Yes,
power supply for external.

>What type of warranty in included?

30 days replacement or refund.


*FSED91j*
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From: LEN BUSSEY                             Number: 3105
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 08/09/93  3:12a
Subj: Re: Re:Cd Swap                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SF>Len,
SF>Starvector 208 is a shareware cd with 208 meg of shareware! Its not
SF>all that bad for a small cd!

If you wish I'll trade you SWOTL, Monkey Island, or Loom for the
Starvector 208 CD.

SF>       Do you have anything else to trade!

That's about it.  I just recently got my CD-ROM and don't have too much
in the way of software yet.  I have an encyclopedia, atlases, an
animals CD etc.. but am not interested in parting with these.  I need
the shareware CD for my BBS.  Call me voice 659-9216 if still
interested in trading.  I'll pay shipping.

                                    Len

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 3106
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93 10:45a
Subj: SCSI CDROM                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



SCSI CDROMs For Sale:

Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00

Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac.  Features 50 Pin True SCSI,
300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and 64k Buffer.
Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty

205-837-5053 anytime.




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 * Origin: Inferno_205.837.7715&3990_16.8KDual_3.9GB_ADS (1:373/8.0)
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3107
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 08/10/93 11:04a
Subj: RE: NIGHTOWL                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> VS>    How about $35Cdn (about $25 US)?
-> VS>
->
->    Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for
->
->                     $ 25.00 a Copy !!!
->
->                     ******************
->
->             Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
->                    it will be higher.
Hi Kevin!

    Tell you what - I'll give you as many copies of Night Owl 9 as YOU
would like  for

                      $ 24.50 a Copy !!!

                      ******************

     Tell them Vince sent you, or the price will be the same.

CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
306-789-4654
Less Hype, Better Value

     Vince
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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 3108
  To: MARIO DI MAMBRO                          Date: 08/10/93 10:57p
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Mario,  you can get them for about $55 new you know.


    And thats MPC.

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 * Origin: The Micro Express BBS * Red Deer, Alberta * [phone] *
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From: STEVE JONES                            Number: 3109
  To: CHRIS WISE                               Date: 08/05/93  9:35a
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST AND MIT                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

A related question -- I have a Mitsumi internal CD-ROM and I have asked the
following question, locally, with no luck:

Does SBPRO effectively run a Mitsumi CD-ROM, without needing a separate
CD-ROM drive host adapter?

Same question applies to SBPRO ASP/16...

Steve sends


... Catch the Blue Wave!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 3110
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 08/10/93 11:37a
Subj: Re: THE 7TH GUEST                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EC>       Nope...I wuz just wondering since you obviously were annoyed by
EC>nothing much. I don't care what your political view is, as long as you
EC>have the right
EC>and ability to express it. There is a thing called "the consititution"
EC>you know?
EC>                                                               Edward
 Yes I do, and you should listen to your own bantering. He was expressing his
right to free speech. Since that barrier was broken down, I expressed my own
right to free speech by answering. If you wish to discuss political views,
let's switch to a differant
conferance. That was my original meaning, though I realize I wasn't real clear
on it. This echo is for other things. I will not entertain further political
exchange in this echo.


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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 3111
  To: MARK JOHNSEN                             Date: 08/10/93 12:25p
Subj: RE: THE 7TH GUEST                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Israel, just caught Edward's reply to your message, assume it was to
 > me?
 > You must've mispelled my last name when sending the reply as I never
 > got it,
I might have misspelled it, don't know.


 > but guess the type-o w/my last name was similar to the mistake you
 > may have
 > made in the voting booth ;)

If you saw the other messages I sent to him you would have seen that I didn't
vote for Clinton. You would have also seen my message about assuming without
thinking or asking.


 > "distaste of forwarding their unsolicited political views" ?!?
 > Guess that
 > means you no longer buy newspapers due to the "unsolicited political
 > views"

I do read newpapers, and expect political views there.


 > from business and I'll be happy to talk w/you... until then, "Don't
 > blame me,
 > I voted for..." well, you know the rest!

I do know the rest. I wrote in Howard Phillips Lovecraft.



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From: HARRY WHEAT                            Number: 3112
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93 10:07p
Subj: 6 disk cd-rom changer                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a BBS program that will run a 6 disk Cd-rom changer on a BBS.
I have looked all over and can't find anything. If anyone knows of anything
please leave me a message.    Thank's
                                          Harry Wheat.......


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From: ROBERT BIR                             Number: 3113
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 08/09/93 10:30p
Subj: Trade adult CD for Adult                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 hello i have  xxx extreme if your still interested.
             leave me mail
                     ROBERT A BIR
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From: WES TAPP                               Number: 3114
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  1:29a
Subj: Programming                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a good CD with C and C++ code on it.  Preferably a '93
printing.  I need good code not the grabage on the normal (NightOwl) CD's.
(sorry about the spelling)  Let me know the title, yourname, an idea of what is
on the CD and a bid on it.  Thanks.
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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From: WES TAPP                               Number: 3115
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  1:31a
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work with QEMM.  The
driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved around by QEMM.  Perplexed
beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would help.
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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 * Origin: Shazam BBS * Adrian, MI * 517-263-6313 * (1:2470/15)
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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 3116
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  2:19a
Subj: Jem Disc I $19.95 or less!              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WHY NEWER ISN'T ALWAYS BETTER (or why Jem Disc I is stil a great deal!) :-)

Is newer always better when it comes to CD-Rom shareware collections?  At
Jewel Distributing we say NO!

Often on BBS echoes you will see ads that make claims such as '99.99999% of
our files are dated from 6/93 on!!!' or 'On our disc, exactly 4 files out of
7469 are older than 3 months!!!'.  While this type of claim does sound
impressive - don't be fooled, there's still a lot to be said for carefully
compiled discs that contain older archives too.  Jem Disc I is one of these
discs.

Consider:

Suspose you are a modem enthusiast (we think you might be since you are
reading this on a BBS):  Our disc contains a lot wonderful programs that you
might miss out on if you only stick to the newest compilation.

For instance Jem Disc contains awesome (and stable) versions of TELIX,
PROCOMM, QMODEM (b4 & after Mustang bought it), TELEMATE, COMMO, BOYAN, GT
POWERCOM, LYNX, and many others all on the same disc.  When you're ready to
try out external protocols you'll find essentials like DSZ, HSLINK & BIMODEM
and also the oddballs like  MPT, JMODEM, HYPER, CMODEM, SEALINK. To get up and
running quickly try Byte Brothers classic POWERNODE.

Try finding the last Forbin project version of Qmodem (4.31) on one of the
'latest' discs. And speaking of Boyan v5.0 - that IS the latest version of
the program.  Some authors don't see the need to upgrade perfectly good
software every other week.

Think about DSZ for a second - it's a great protocol, but have you _really_
noticed that much of a difference between the '92 version on Jem Disc I and
the more recent release?  We didn't think so.  Another point to ponder -
sometimes an author adds features that aren't to your liking, for instead of
removing a bug he _introduces_ a bug with a new version. It's good to have the
old and the new around.

Finally, sometimes authors get feature fever or technology crazy (perhaps
because of all the great computer equipment they can afford from user
registrations).  When this appens, you can't even _run_ the latest version of
a program.  What good is having a Summer '93 release of
SUPERTELEMODEMPLUS when the dang thing needs 8 megs of memory just to get off
the ground?  All the sudden the newest release lost a lot of its luster.

Oh well, you get the idea.  Newer isn't always better - So consider adding a
disc full of 'classics' to round out your collection.  One of the best is Jem
Disc I - now only $19.95 plus shipping or handling OR for a limited time only
$14.95 (straight up!) IF you trade in one of your yucky discs (in good,
resellable condition).  Mind you, the files aren't THAT old - after all Jem
Disc I was pressed less than one year ago, but in the hypertime of Shareware
Land that seems like an eternity to some.

FREQ from 1:203/49 JEMDISC and/or JEMTRADE & while you are here pick up
JEMFILES for a complete listing of ALL the kuel files on the collection (in
FILES.BBS format).  If you can't FREQ, call my BBS at 916-921-9949 and
download these from my logon matrix (enter JEM at the DOS prompt).

If you stayed with me this far - thanks!  And Freq these files - you won't
regret it!

Michael Crosson
Jewel Distributing


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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 3117
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  3:52a
Subj: 20th century almanac                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                ---  FOR SALE or TRADE  ---


                20th Century Video Almanac

        This multimedia reference disk uses one of the
        worlds largest historical film archives to produce
        a visual encyclopedia of the century with video,
        audio, photos, and text.

        -Touch down on the Moon with the Apollo astronauts.
        -Relive Woodstock.
        -Attend President Kennedy's inauguration.
        -Take a front row seat for the incredible 1916
         World Series.

        Disk is in MINT condition, approx. 2 weeks old

        Would like to trade for disks of other titles,
        preferably quality Adult disks or Shareware Titles.
        Or will accept cash offer from highest bidder <g>

                Todd

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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 3118
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 08/10/93  7:42p
Subj: NIGHTOWL                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >                Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney !
 >                       ******************
 >                         1-800-638-5757

Does Free Spirit still monitor this echo?  There was a guy that used to beat
everyone's prices but I haven't seen him lately.

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From: JACK HUDDLE                            Number: 3119
  To: BOB ROSOL                                Date: 08/08/93  6:01p
Subj: NEW Corel ArtShow 3 CD &                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    BR>Jack- BR>I sold this one, but I may have another soon.
 BR>I'll let you know.

Bob If it is same condition and same price just send it to me!
JACK HUDDLE 8440 BLACKLICK EASTERN RD PICKERINGTON, OHIO 43147

 * SLMR 2.0 #1626 * I could have had a V8, But got a GOLDWING instead!!


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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 3120
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  9:30p
Subj: cd rom software for sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I HAVE THE FOLLOWING CD ROM's FOR SALE:


THE 7th GUEST............................$35.00

ECOQUEST "THE SEARCH FOR CETUS"
by SIERRA (CHILDRENS ADVENTURE GAME).....$32.00


Both include original box, documentation, registration
cards and are in excellent condition. If interested,
post here, or call [phone].


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From: ZACHARY HAMM                           Number: 3121
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93 12:34p
Subj: DAK CD-ROM SUPPORT                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does Anybody have the Tech Support Number for BSR for the BSR CD-ROM
Drive that DAK sold?  DAK will not support the warranty after 30 days.


Zack Hamm


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From: BEN ACKERMAN                           Number: 3122
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  6:05p
Subj: Problems w/ CD-ROMs                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have seen a few people complaining about their Mitsumi CD-ROM drives.. I have
found that my Mitsumi is particularly sensitive to a dirty disc. I had problems
with reading a particular disc. All it took was a wipe with a damp cloth. If
your having problems with hit or miss reading or reading errors this is
something you might want to try. I would not recomend using a paper towel as
they tend to leave little pits of paper on the disc which could scratch it.. I
use a felt cloth that I got to clean my guitar. Most of the time I don't even
need to wet the cloth.. just wipe it down. The Mitsumi I have is especially
sensitive to dirt... This always seems to work.

-Ben


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From: ALAN WILLIAMS                          Number: 3123
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 08/07/93  9:02a
Subj: ADULT TITLES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->(1:300/9)


-> APPARENTLY THERE ARE MORE THAN DAVE REEDS THAN JUST I. THE RESPONSE
-> DATE WAS JUST TWO DAYS AGO AND I HAVE NOT BEEN ON THIS BBS SINCE MAY
-> WHEN I CALLED TO GET MY LOD REGISTRATION. MANY REGRETS TO WHOEVER
-> THIS MESSAGE WAS ACTUALLY INTENDED FOR... I KNOW NOT WHO HAS BEEN ON
-> THIS BBS USING MY NAME AND PASSWORD, PERHAPS I SHOULD CHANGE MY
-> INFO.....

That may be a bit excessive.....after several years of BBSing I have now
encountered two other users who have the same name and spelling as I do.
This does not indicate that they have access to my password, simply that
we work in different parts of the world. In the event that more than
one of us happen to use the same BBS system, obviously one of us has to
alter our name in order for both of us to use the system, since only a
single registration is permitted per system under a given user name.

To check whether or not your access has been usurped, note when you last
used the BBS, the check your user profile the next time that you log
into the system. For example, with PCBoard, it tells you exactly when
the last call was (date and time), so it is easy to verify that you are
the only person using your information.

Hope this puts you at ease.

Cheers,

Al

---
 * RM 1.0 00805 * "Beulah, peel me a grape."
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From: LEE MILLIGAN                           Number: 3124
  To: GLENN JONES                              Date: 08/11/93  5:26p
Subj: CD Rom Help                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Glenn Jones said:
 > Could somone help me?  What do I look for in a CD-ROM?  What
 > I'm looking for is a internal CD-ROM.  Speed, KBytes/Second,
 > Speed????

 > I'm SO CONFUSED!!!

 > Thanks,
 > Glenn

 > --- InterMail/RA/Gecho
 >  * Origin: The CatWalk BBS  Davie, Fl  305-370-3528  ZyXel
 > 19.2K V.32B (1:369/8)
Depending on what you want it for....
If you are looking for a good Multimedia drive you would want something in the
200-250 ms speed and 150-200 KB/sec range....if it's for a BBS you could use a
slower one.....
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3125
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/10/93  2:56p
Subj: Re: NIGHTOWL                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

VS>    How about $35Cdn (about $25 US)?
VS>

     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!


               Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney !
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 3126
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  2:58p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500 internal cd rom drives
for $99.   I have about 20 left.  30 day warranty included.   205-824-2552


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3127
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  3:01p
Subj: Mitsumi Support                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


Mistumi Electric Co.

Dallas Office:
6210 N. Beltline Rd. Ste. 320
Irving, TX
Tel: [phone]
FAX: [phone]

NY
35 Pinelwan Rd.
Melville, NY 11747
Tel: [phone]
FAX: [phone]

Chicago
2101 Arlington Heights Rd.
Arlington Heights, IL 60005
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

Santa Clara
4655 Old Ironsides Dr. Ste. 130
Santa Clara, CA 95040
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3128
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  3:01p
Subj: So Much Shareware III                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

So Much Shareware III $21
Yes, we are selling Night Owl's 9 also for the same price. We also have
hundreds of other titles in stock. For a catalog FREQ CATALOG from 1:138/116 or
1:138/120
GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
1-206-473-1634 or 1-800-277-5179 FAX
All major credit cards accepted

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3129
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  3:01p
Subj: Liquadation Discs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD PowerBox $12
CD Winbox   $12
Night Owl's v.9 $21

GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3130
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  3:01p
Subj: Walnut Creek Releases                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

We now have Giga Games in stock!..
Also CICA Windows will be updated next week. We do carry entire line of Walnut
Creek.

GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 3131
  To: KEITH TOWNSEND                           Date: 08/10/93  3:01p
Subj: Re: Toshiba CDROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hiya, Keith!
On Aug 04, Keith Townsend spake thusly to Michael Konor:

 KT>   Like I said the Drive I bought from you seems to be
 KT> working fine..However about once every 15 second the LED
 KT> turns on and off again..this does this continously..Sounds
 KT> like unnecessary Disk access to me..Is this normal for these
 KT> Toshiba drives or could it be a termination thing (It's the
 KT> only SCSI device)..It seems to do it witth both the Asim and
 KT> the CBM software so I don't think It's a software
 KT> thing...Please leave me a note in case I'm worrying for
 KT> nothing...Thanx

i bought 2 CDs from michael konor, and the first drive does that (the led
blinks all the time) but the 2nd one doesnt!  go figure...


\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 3132
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 08/10/93  3:01p
Subj: Re: The 7Th Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

            -=> Quoting Israel Gomberg to Mark Johnsen <=-

 MJ>... Clinton will tax wealthy Americans. Congratulations! You're rich!

 IG> I might have been interested, but I don't do buisness with people who
 IG> show the  distaste of forwarding their unsolicited political views.

 EC> Why don't you rephrase that? What you really meant was, "I
 EC> voted for Clinton and now I'm too embarrassed to tell anyone".
 EC> Edward

Israel, just caught Edward's reply to your message, assume it was to me?
You must've mispelled my last name when sending the reply as I never got it,
but guess the type-o w/my last name was similar to the mistake you may have
made in the voting booth ;)

"distaste of forwarding their unsolicited political views" ?!?  Guess that
means you no longer buy newspapers due to the "unsolicited political views"
run daily, known as political satire...  Let me guess, it was OK for
Dunesberry to run four years of invisible man jokes, but the current material
is "distasteful" ?  Let me know when you're ready to seperate tagline humor
from business and I'll be happy to talk w/you... until then, "Don't blame me,
I voted for..." well, you know the rest!

Regards.

,\\ark




... "C'mon Honey, let me sit in the chair today" - Bill Clinton
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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 3133
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  3:12p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                  ****  Digital Enterprises  ****
                       Custom CDROM Service

  Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
  produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
  overnight!

   o Complete confidentiality assured.  Your data will NOT be pilfered.
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   o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
   o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
   o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
   o Great for:  BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
                 Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
   o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
   o Free UPS Blue label shipping to the Continental U.S.
   o COMING SOON!  Compact Disk AUDIO Production!  COMING SOON!

Pricing for Custom CD production:

o 527 Meg:  o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 139MB
            o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
            o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o 650 Meg:  o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 144MB
            o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
            o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.

o UPS RED Label shipping is $15 extra.


   Data formats Supported:               Software Supported:
 ---------------------------           ----------------------- o 60MB
DC600/6XXX Streaming Tape.  o Sytos Plus o Mountain Filesafe
                                   o Everex Tape

o QIC 40/80  (Colorado Jumbo 250)  o PCTools o Colorado Software

o Floppy (At additional cost)      o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools

o Hard Disk

** 4mm DAT, and 125/250MB 5.25" Streaming tape will be available SOON **

Terms:

  Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
  checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are
  not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.

*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
 For the months of July and August, all orders qualify
 for a 10% discount from our CURRENT pricing.  Offer
 ends August 31, 1993.
*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***

Notice:

Digital will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite", or pirated software
collections on CDROM.  Such activity is morally WRONG and illegal.  If this is
your intention, please do not waste my time or yours.

For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.

Loyd Craft
Digital Enterprises (Name recently changed) 517-865-6800 Voice (11:00 AM -
6:00PM Monday - Saturday) 517-865-6066 (Customer Support BBS) 1:239/900.0
(Fidonet)

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3134
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 08/10/93  3:12p
Subj: Re: WHILE THEY LAST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    In a message of <01 Aug 93  01:59:05>, Boris Osadciw
>>    (1:157/46) writes:

>>    Go ahead and send these C.O.D. to me
>>    Learning Adventure
>>    Colossal CookBook
>>    Technotools (2 copies)
>>    Plus 4 caddies
>>    I am sure you have my address by now <grin>.


On it's way...thanks....

Boris Osadciw

... I'm too sexy! You know what I mean!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3135
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/10/93  3:13p
Subj: Re:  Disk                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BO>> >>    Hi Boris, Did you recieve my order on Sat. July 30 for Bus
 BO>> >>    Babes 1.? I left it on your electronic order desk. Thanks,
 BO>> >>     Ron.
 BO>>
 BO>> Yes, but I didn't send it as maybe you thought it would be a low
 BO>> cd. The current bid on this cd is $300. so I didn't think you wa
 BO>> to charge you card with that amount.
>>
>>
>>    This is a joke, isn't it Boris??

Not at all BOB, in fact we now have an offer of $350. for this disk.

Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3136
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/10/93  3:13p
Subj: Re: POST?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Boris,
>>
>>    One of my customers said you posted a message to me?  If so,
>>    please repost it because I didn't receive it.  If not, sorry
>>    to bother you.
>>    Later,

I did ??? That's news to me !!

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3137
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  6:32p
Subj: CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURCE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

***********************************************************************
CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA                         306-789-4654 Voice
6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7                 306-789-8690 Fax
***********************************************************************
Prices Effective August 8, 1993

ADULT TITLES                   Pricing in Canadian Funds    (Cdn=1.3US)

101 Positions 1 & 2 XXX    $75 Each Sold Separately; Professionally
                               produced adult education oriented movies.
                               High Colour w/motion & Sound. *X101
Adult Palate XXX           $45 Superior collection of movie stills in
                               hi-res format. Windows Required. *XAP
Adult Reference Library    $40 500 Meg. 2500 GIFs. Fetishes Galore. Well
                               scanned. User friendly. *XARL
After Dark Trilogy XXX     $55 New collection of movie shorts. Video for
                               Windows included. *XADT
Amateur Models X           $45 Over 500 NEW Centrefold type pictures.
                               All 1024x768 Resolution or 24 bit colour.
                               BBS Ready. *XAM
Best of Vivid Clips XXX    $75 Full motion segments of your Vivid
                               favorites. Watch for Ginger, Barbara,
                               Hyaptia, Savannah, Christy, and more!
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3138
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  6:33p
Subj: CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURCE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

***********************************************************************
CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA                         306-789-4654 Voice
6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7                 306-789-8690 Fax
***********************************************************************
Prices Effective August 8, 1993            ...Call for Current Specials

ADULT TITLES                           All Pricing is in Canadian Funds
                                                     (Cdn=1.3xUS Funds)

Girls of Vivid/Still XXX   $65 Over 500 hand-picked slides of VIVID
                               Beauties in True Color, Guaranteed, No
                               2 screens the same. Pick your favorite.
Hidden Obsessions XXX      $70 Fractal Compression makes this a cutting
                               edge video production, and the topic says
                               it all. One of the BEST of the year.
Hot Pix 2/3/4/5 ea. XXX    $40 (2) 530 Meg Adult Scans & Amusements
                               (3) 630 Meg (4) Best of Windy City
                               Scans (5) Just released! All BBS Ready.
House of Dreams XXX        $70 Mind blowing exotic fantasy movie from
                               Andrew Blake, creator of Hidden
Obsessions.
                               DOS Fractal/MAC QuickTime (Specify PC or
                               MAC)
Kama Sutra - Movie XXX     $75 Beautifully filmed Indian documentary.
                               Peacefully narrated in a story type
                               setting. Complete feature with colour,
                               sound & motion.
My First Time XXX          $70 80 minute 2 disc set. Adult Movie. DOS
                               based. Full screen or third screen. *XMFT
Nightwatch (PC/MAC) XXX    $70 Interactive adult adventure. This one is
                               fun! Check out the actions as you make
                               the rounds from the beach to the bedroom!
Photo Gallery R (DOS)      $45 The best works of Stephen Hicks, from
Photo Gallery R (MAC)      $50 ...a Penthouse shoot.
Seedy Rom Movie Disc 1 XXX $50 Best of pro & amateur adult full colour
                               with sound. Over 1 hour of videos.
*XSEEDY
Seymore Butts (PC/MAC) XXX $70 Full Length Movie (100 Minutes). Join
                               Seymore as he explores his neighbourhood
to
                               meet and mate the girl of his dreams.
                               *Recommended*            *XSBUTT
Smutware XXX               $40 640 meg. 1000 1024x768x256 colour photos,
                               2000 800x600. 100 Adult Animations. BBS
                               Ready.                   *XSMUT
Southern Beauties X        $50 1000 HiRes GIFs at 1024x768 from
                               Original 35MM slides.    *XSB
Storm 2/3 XXX              $40 Lots of naughty variety. BBS Ready.
Wicked XXX                 $80 Hot new adult disc! The first PHOTO-CD
                               adult disc contains stills taken during
                               the shooting of the new Teri Weigel XXX
                               movie, "Wicked".         *XWICK
Xtreme (Imported/Europe)   $40 Best of overseas scans & animations, all
                               on one disc.             *XTREME
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3139
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  6:34p
Subj: CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURCE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA                         306-789-4654 Voice
6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7                 306-789-8690 Fax
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Prices Effective August 8, 1993            ...Call for Current Specials

GENERAL TITLES                         All Pricing is in Canadian Funds
                                                     (Cdn=1.3xUS Funds)

5 Star MS DOS Volume 2      $35  A premium collection of files for
MS-DOS
                                 1992-1993. Online Order Code: *5D2
5 Star MS Windows Volume 1  $40  A premium collection of files for
                                 Windows 1992-1993. Includes 950 Bonus
                                 OS2 files. Online Order Code: *5W1
American Business Phoneb'k  $40  Information on 11 Million Canadian and
                                 American businesses. *ABP
Animals Multimedia DOS/MAC  $45  Specialexhibits, guided tours, &
stories
                                 from the San Diego Zoo; 200 mammals,
                                 birds, reptiles. Excellent Multimedia
                                 presentation. *AM
Arthur's Teacher Trouble    $40  Educational w/music & animations.
                                 Teaches reading & objec recognition.
*ATT
Barney Bear Goes to School  $35  Interactive story of the first day at
                                 school. Ages 3-8. *BSC
Barney Bear Goes to Space   $35  Ages 3-8. Animation, games, & stories
to
                                 present facts about space. *BSP
Bibles and Religion         $25  New& Old Testament, Book of Mormons,
                                 Lexicons, study guides, more! *B&R
Business Master             $30  1100 quality programs. Over 600 meg.
                                 Lots of clip art. *BM
CD Winbox                   $45  650 Meg, 6000+ Windows based files for
                                 3.x and NT. BBS Ready. *CWB
Clip Art Goliath            $25  11000+ image files TIF/PCX/MAC/GIF,
some
                                 colour. Many subjects. *CAG
ColorMagic (PC/MAC)         $40  Over 600 meg of 3D COLOR clip art.
                                 Royalty free, read-me file in 5
                                 languages. Windows & MAC Librarian
                                 included.
Colossal Cookbook           $25  4000+ recipes, with cross
                                 reference/search! Health and Nutrition
                                 guides.
Complete Bookshop           $25  Includes Classics, Poetry, Humour,
                                 Cookbooks, History, and more!
Dictionaries & Languages    $25  Giant compilation of Dictionaries,
                                 Thesauruses, Word Processors, Style
                                 Checkers, Glossaries, Cross Refs, Much
                                 More!
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3140
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  6:34p
Subj: CD-ROMS FROM CANADA                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA                         306-789-4654 Voice
6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7                 306-789-8690 Fax
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Prices Effective August 8, 1993            ...Call for Current Specials

GENERAL TITLES                         All Pricing is in Canadian Funds
                                                     (Cdn=1.3xUS Funds)

Learning French              $55 Learn French the easy way, with sound
                                 and songs! *LF
Mantis                       $35 Sega Space adventure, enhanced for CD.
                                 25 action packed missions, includes
                                 SpeechPak & Sound Features. *MAN
Mario is Missing/World Atlas $40 The ever popular Nintendo games w/World
                                 Atlas as a bonus. *MAR
Mayo Clinic                  $40 Family Health Book. Interactive. MPC
                                 Super illustrations and Animations on
                                 health and medical topics. *MAY
Mixed Up Mother Goose        $35 Interactive children's game, based on
                                 fairy tales. Requires no reading
skills.
                                 Digitized voices and animation. *MUMG
Monster Disc (2 disc set)    $50 1300 Meg 1992/1993. *MD2
                                 List/view/tag/copy/unzip/search. Manual
                                 included!
Monster Media '93            $45 1993 Update for Jan-Apr 1993. 400+ Meg
                                 of new files, all 1993. No Duplicates.
                                 Published 3 times per year. *MM3
National Parks               $35 Tour of the National Parks w/slide show
                                 & video clips *NP
Night Owl 9                  $40 Latest shareware releases from one of
                                 the best series. BBS ready. *NO9
Our Solar System             $25 Exciting NASA and Observatory photos of
                                 planets, moons, comets, Earth &
                                 celestial phenomena! Voyage Simulators,
                                 more! *OSS
P.C. Sig #12                 $35 Extremely well done shareware disc,
                                 latest in series. Excellent interface.
                                 *PSIG
Pinocotheca Multimedia       $30 MPC presentation of scores of Classical
                                 Paintings, Life Stories, and Works of
                                 800 Painters. *PIM
Precision Mapping           $135 Street Mapping program that also allows
                                 you to cut & paste, integrate, print,
                                 search, calc mileage. Includes Phone
                                 Book. *PRM
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3141
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  6:35p
Subj: CD-ROM SPECIALS                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA                         306-789-4654 Voice
6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7                 306-789-8690 Fax
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Prices Effective August 8, 1993            ...Call for Current Specials

Package Specials                       All Pricing is in Canadian Funds
                                                     (Cdn=1.3xUS Funds)

Games Pak                $199  Includes Golden Immortal (RP), 7th Guest
                               (OEM), House of Games, Games '93, Space
                               Quest 4, and King's Quest 5 *GPAK
Adult Pak                $199  Includes Seedy Rom Movies, Dirty Talk,
                               My First Time, and Southern Beauties or
                               Busty Babes. *APAK-S OR *APAK-B
Exploration Pak          $129  Includes World Vista Atlas, American
                               Vista Atlas, and Multimedia Animals
                               Encyclopedia. All MPC. *EPAK
Bikini Magic Set         $40   Women of Venus & Color Magic *BPAK
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3142
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  6:35p
Subj: CLEAROUT                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA                         306-789-4654 Voice
6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7                 306-789-8690 Fax
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Prices Effective August 8, 1993            ...Call for Current Specials

                                       All Pricing is in Canadian Funds
Clearout Specials - While Quantities Last            (Cdn=1.3xUS Funds)

Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego Deluxe Edition ($78) ***  Home
Library  - 250 Titles ($85) ***  Beauty and the Beast ($40) ***
Cautious Condor ($50) ***  Destination Mars ($38) ***  Wing Commander
($75) *** Stellar 7 ($48) ***  Guiness Book of Records ($67) ***
Shakespear ($26) ***  Talking Jungle ($83) ***  Peter Wolf ($40) ***
Jones in the Fast Lane ($48) *** Starchild ($40) *** CD Game Pak II
($75) *** CD Game Collection ($52) ***  CD Cookbook ($78) ***  Pier 1
($35)
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3143
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  6:55p
Subj: FREE CD-ROM                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                 ...August Special...

Night Owl 9... $35 Canadian all taxes included.
Buy Night Owl 9 and any other of our many instock CD-ROMs,
and receive a 640 Meg Shareware CD-ROM absolutely free.

Contact:
CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA          or our agent
306-789-4654 Voice                         or dealer
306-789-8690 Fax                              in your area!
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From: DON BRADEN                             Number: 3144
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/11/93  4:53p
Subj: re order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike I learned today that the order is at customs in Ottawa awaiting their
determination of the tariff. I will undoubtably hear from them in the
course of time.

___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: SHANE HEDRICK                          Number: 3145
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/11/93  4:03p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom List                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MC> all  the CD's we carry, please tell me your address, and we will send
 MC> one to  you.
 MC> Mark

     Shane Hedrick
     204 E. QuailCreek #B29
     Cushing  OK, 74023

                        Thanks



... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?"
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From: SHANE HEDRICK                          Number: 3146
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  4:32p
Subj: Microsoft Office                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anyone interested in a copy of Microsoft Office on CD?  Would like to trade for
Kings Quest 6 or 7th Guest + a couple of shareware CD's.  Or make an offer.



... "C'mon Honey, let me sit in the chair today" - Bill Clinton
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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 3147
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/10/93  6:32p
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (07 Aug 93) Mark Clardy wrote to All...
 MC>   If anyone would like for Computer Works BBS to mail them A list
 MC> of all the CD's we carry, please tell me your address, and we will
 MC> send one to you.  Thank you for your time.

  Hello Mark.  Yes I would like the list of "ALL" the CD's your carry.
  Please mail to:
                  Max Green
                  399 Westmeade Dr
                  Gretna, LA. 70056

  Thank you.

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 3148
  To: RON COLEMAN                              Date: 08/10/93  9:55p
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 08-08-93 Ron Coleman wrote to All...

 RC> Can someone tell me a good quality Adult Cd that has Gif's and
 RC> animations for
 RC> a reasonable cost like around $30 to $40 ? Or any one have a used one

Ron, How's $12.95 plus $6.00 postage / handling sound ? Call a place called
Profit Publishing 1-800-843-7990 and ask for T & A to the Max ($12.95). While
you are at it ask for their free (with every order) Demo disk. It has a great
CDBENCH program on it, along with a bit of everything else (no X rated on the
demo). I saw the ad in the Aug. Computer Shopper and got it. Worth the price.
Hope this helps. >Paul<

... OFFLINE 1.50  "What if there were no hypothetical situations?"

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From: JOHN TRIMBACK                          Number: 3149
  To: ROB O'DELL                               Date: 08/10/93 11:33p
Subj: Re: NEC CDR-73/83                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey rob...i have a (almost new) 340meg IBM scsi drive i could trade, memory 1,
2 , 4meg simms, Microsoft Powerpoint 3.0 and Microsoft Excel v4.0 for Mac and
maybe some other stuff to trade for 2 internals..leave mail if interested


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From: JOHN TRIMBACK                          Number: 3150
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 08/10/93 11:34p
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hey mike, i have 340 meg scsi2 (ibm) harddrive (almost brand new), 1,2,4 meg
simms and microsoft excel 4.0 & powerpoint v3.0 for Mac i can trade or maybe
something else to get 2 internal cd rom drives..let me know...


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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 3151
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/10/93  8:23p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          Terry Blount wrote
----------------------------------------
>>Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500 internal cd rom
>>drives for $99.   I have about 20 left.  30 day warranty
>>included.   205-824-2552
----------------------------------------

I will take one, what is the access time and transfer rate and your address...


Lee Christopher Wise
===
 * TLX v3.00 * Be Nice to Your Enemies, It Drives Them Nuts.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3152
  To: CHAD STUDY                               Date: 08/11/93  1:30a
Subj: AMIGA CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CS>Would someone please make a decent CD with Amiga Shareware / PD files on it.

Chad,

We now have the new Aminet Amiga CD's from Walnut Creek.  Lots of new
files, but still the same type of file descriptions.  Anyway, you might
want to check it out for 15 bucks.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3153
  To: MING CHAN                                Date: 08/11/93  1:30a
Subj: NIGHTOWL                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MC>I am interested in the following title:
MC>PC-Pix I 646MB,5500+ Gifs,200+ Movies Discription,Nightlog
MC>Images,Gabby's Lounge,Garlique Graphics,Twilight Zone,
MC>Prizm,Farmer Daughter & Suger Magnolia 05/92

Ming,

If Vince doesn't have it, we stock them at $30 + $5 s/h to Canada.
No extra charge for VISA.

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3154
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  1:30a
Subj: PROPHONE 93 ONLY $115!!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                               PRO-PHONE 1993
          $115!!                                            $115!
                               NOW IN STOCK!!

Pro-Phone is the first affordable national telephone directory on CD-ROM.
It is the convenient way to access information contained in thousands of
telephone books from your PC.  The seven disc set contains telephone
listings from every city in the U.S.!  Also included is the National
Business Edition and six regional residential editions.  Listings consist
of complete mailing address, phone number, business heading, SIC code, and
even number of employees!

Look up telephone directory information by telphone number, address,
Standard Industrial Classification (SIC) code, Business heading, or by
name.  You can output all listings to printer or disk file in seconds.

        * Multiple indexing for look-ups by name, address, and telephone
          number.
        * Locate businesses anywhere in the U.S.
        * Find lost friends and family in seconds.
        * Look up phone numbers fast.
        * Match a name and address from only a phone number!
        * Trace family genealogy
        * Downloadable into plain ASCII text format.
        * Prints mailing labels.
        * Autodial highlighted numbers (modem required)
        * Use features not available from operator assistance.

          Our price: $115

This is a definite "MUST HAVE" CD collection.  Get the set that just made
phone books and directory assistance obsolete!!!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3155
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  1:30a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 August 1993              ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 8/06
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------

 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    PC-PIX 2......................30.00
 After Dark Trilogy (New!).....45.00    PC-PIX 3......................30.00
 All Beauties (New!)...........36.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 Amateur Models (New!).........35.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Animation Fantasies 1 or 2....29.00    Porkware 2 (New!).............37.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Busty Babes 3.0...............33.00    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........29.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Erotic Encounters.............36.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........49.00
 Girls of Vivid 1 (New!).......45.00    Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00
 Girls of Vivid 2 (New!).......45.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................29.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................29.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......35.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................29.00    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............29.00    Storm 2.......................28.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00    Storm 3.......................28.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....39.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 Nightwatch Interactive........49.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 PC-PIX 1......................30.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

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From: NATE LAWSON                            Number: 3156
  To: GIL MACHIN                               Date: 08/10/93 11:42p
Subj: Re: 7th guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Check out what Gil Machin wrote on 05 Aug 93  09:22:00:

 GM> Think Hard Now!  Which One is Shinola?

NL>I am very interested in the 7th Guest CD.  The lowest price
NL>I have seen has been $49 through mail order.  Anyone have a
NL>used version?  Seen a lower price?


 GM> In Kansas City Mo. Sam's Club Warehouse has it for $45 plus some
 GM> change.
 GM> This is about $5 Cheaper that anyware else in town.
 GM>                                                      Gil

 GM> ___ WinQwk 2.0b#0

Check out what Gil Machin wrote on 05 Aug 93  09:22:00:

 GM> Think Hard Now!  Which One is Shinola?

NL>I am very interested in the 7th Guest CD.  The lowest price
NL>I have seen has been $49 through mail order.  Anyone have a
NL>used version?  Seen a lower price?


 GM> In Kansas City Mo. Sam's Club Warehouse has it for $45 plus some
 GM> change.
 GM> This is about $5 Cheaper that anyware else in town.
 GM>                                                      Gil

 GM> ___ WinQwk 2.0b#0

 Sorry, I can't seem to buy the game in Missouri...Something
about me not wanting to drive 30 hours straight.  :)

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From: NATE LAWSON                            Number: 3157
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/10/93 11:44p
Subj: Re: 7th guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$50, with shipping for 7th Guest....Sounds good.
Let me get some money..thanks!

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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 3158
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93 12:24p
Subj: Create DOS Multimedia                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TEMPRA VideoEdit AND MultiMedia Authoring Software (DOS)

Tempra MEDIA AUTHOR- A complete package for multimedia publishing,video
production, computer-based training, interactive kiosks,demos & presentations.
>> Creates presentations with audio and live video
>> Distribute them ROYALTY FREE
>> Video support: controls up to 7 VISCA video decks.

Also Includes:
Tempra PRO- Photorealistic image editor & high-end 24bit paint pkg. >> Supports
color scanners, video capture boards, color printers.

Tempra TURBO ANIMATOR- 32-bit accelerator, animation editor & video movie
maker.
>> Save full-motion VIDEO to disk!
>> Create/edit FLC, FLI & FLX files.

>>>> Manufacturer's Inflated Retail is  $1985.00! <<<<

Complete - BLANK REGISTRATION CARDS

MAKE AN OFFER!!!  STEAL IT!!!

Contact BOB ROSOL     Voice: 412-761-9090   FAX: [phone]





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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 3159
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/11/93  5:43p
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  MC> If anyone would like for Computer Works BBS to mail them A list of all
  MC> the CD's we carry, please tell me your address, and we will send one
  MC> to you.  Thank you for your time. Mark
  MC>
  MC> Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! Online Credit Card Ordering Available!
  MC> [phone] - BBS [phone] - Voice SysOp - Jim Lambert
  MC> CoSysOp - Mark Clardy
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  MC>  * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)

Send one to Mike Mulcahy
9300 Hamilton Drive
Fairfax, VA 22031
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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 3160
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 08/11/93  5:46p
Subj: CD ROM Discs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Which of these are compatable with an APPLE CD300 CDROM hardware?..m2
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From: CARL SCHULTZ                           Number: 3161
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/10/93  2:13p
Subj: Cd price list 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

do you have DUNE or DUNE 2? (CD)


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From: CARL SCHULTZ                           Number: 3162
  To: GLENN JONES                              Date: 08/10/93 10:20p
Subj: Cd rom help                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Could somone help me?  What do I look for in a CD-ROM?  What I'm
-> looking for  is a internal CD-ROM.  Speed, KBytes/Second, Speed????
->
-> I'm SO CONFUSED!!!
->
-> Thanks,
-> Glenn
 You Should look at KB per sec and Access time, the gruop buy is a great
CD-ROM!!! Also look at price. You've first got to look at how  much $ your
going to spend and then, what your going to be using it for.
  If you have any other questions leave me E-Mail..


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From: CARL SCHULTZ                           Number: 3163
  To: JOHN ANDERSON                            Date: 08/10/93 10:23p
Subj: Cd-roms for sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Used CD-ROMs For Sale:
->
->   Maniac Mansion 2: Day Of The Tentacle - $40
->   Loom - $15
->   The 7th Guest - $25
->   Infocom Treasure Chest - $20
 I'll buy The 7th quest from you, but what is it like, what do you do?


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3164
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/11/93 10:03a
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->   If anyone would like for Computer Works BBS to mail them A list of
-> the CD's we carry, please tell me your address, and we will send one
-> you.  Thank you for your time.
->                                        Mark
->
->
->   Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!
->   Online Credit Card Ordering Available!
->   [phone] - BBS
->   [phone] - Voice
->   SysOp - Jim Lambert  CoSysOp - Mark Clardy
-> --- FreeMail 1.08b
->  * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
->
 I would like a catalog

Vito A Servideo
2741 ne 24 street
LIghthouse Point, FL  33064

p.s.
do you have any cd+g titiles?


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From: FREDDY FAVELA                          Number: 3165
  To: MICHEAL KONOR                            Date: 08/11/93 12:46p
Subj: Toshiba CD-Rom                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        M








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From: FREDDY FAVELA                          Number: 3166
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 08/11/93 12:47p
Subj: Toshiba Cd-Rom                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

               Michael if the TOSHIBA XM-3201 INTERNAL CD can run

                on a 286 sx16mhz with 1 mg ram I'm interested!!

        and if it cant please let me now what I need!


        REPLY HERE

         ORORORORO

        CALL [phone]

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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 3167
  To: MARIO DI MAMBRO                          Date: 08/10/93 10:34p
Subj: Cd Chess Game                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I noticed you sell cd's and cd stuff, so I thought I would ask you if
-> the new game Chess Meister 5 Billion & 1 is available on CD?  I saw
-> it on disk


Mario, whether you get it on CD or disk, the game is not worth it. The
animations are grainy and repetative. Each possible capture has only 1
animation. The game also plays lousy chess even at its most advanced
levels. I'd recomend you read the Computer Gaming World review before
spending money on this one.

I'm glad my boss spend his $$ on this on and not me.

James

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From: TONY MATA                              Number: 3168
  To: STEVE JONES                              Date: 08/11/93 11:56p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST AND MIT                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Steve, no, the SB PRO or SB 16 can't be hooked up to a Mitsumi.  From what I
was told by Mitsumi tech support, only the ATI Sound FX and Sound Galaxy NX Pro
audio cards are the only ones compatible.  I have heard from some people in
this echo that you can connect the sound wire to the SB, but you would still
need to have the card that came with the drive.
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 3169
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 08/11/93  6:04p
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->  >Then there are those crazy dealers like me who like to live
->  >life on the edge. I'll take ALL THE BUSTY'S I CAN GET MY HANDS ON!
->
->
-> You are certainly correct, you are on the edge.
->
-> On July 20th, I was arrested and all my BBS equipment was seized. If
-> found guilty, I am facing 15 years / $25,000 for sale & possession of
-> obscene material.
->
-> That 'edge' is not a real comfortable place to be.
->
->
-> Tony
->
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  Tony where did this happen and is this a federal law or a local
law in your home state? I thought a BBS was a PRIVATE electronic
service? Did you let most people access your files without verifying
ages? Please let me know about this law.
bubba
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From: CURT LARSON                            Number: 3170
  To: MICHAEL KONNOE                           Date: 08/11/93 10:44p
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please call me ASAP at [phone].  Leave message in echo if you don't want
to call. Thanks.

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From: CURT LARSON                            Number: 3171
  To: MIKE KONNOR                              Date: 08/11/93 10:45p
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please call me ASAP at [phone].  If you must, leave a message in this
echo.  thanks.

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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3172
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93 11:49a
Subj: Aussie Needs help...                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Everybody!

How are you all..??? The land of the CD ROM is very new to me, In fact so new
I haven't even purchased one yet. There seem to be a lot of experts out there
guys. Perhaps you can give me some ideas on what to look out for...??? What
sort of to look for when buying a CD player...???

And of course the best places to buy CD's long distance..<grin> Anyone want to
start a branch in Australia...???<grin>

Thanks for your help!

Mark Smith
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From: DAVID M. WHITE                         Number: 3173
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/11/93  2:02p
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MC>   If anyone would like for Computer Works BBS to mail them A
MC> list of all
MC> the CD's we carry, please tell me your address, and we will

I would like to receive your listing:  send to:
David M. White
452 N. Bull Run Dr.
Tucson, Az 85748

                                          Thanks,


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From: FRITZ WILSON                           Number: 3174
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/11/93  9:47p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Wes Tapp to All <=-

 WT> Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work with
 WT> QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved around by
 WT> QEMM.  Perplexed beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would
 WT> help.

     No problem here with the following setup:

CONFIG.SYS

DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.sys /r:2 \dev\mtmcdd.sys /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /S:3 /A:0
/M:19 /T:3 /I:2

AUTOEXEC.BAT

c:\qemm\loadhi /r:1 C:\BIN\mscdex.exe /D:MSCD001 /M:50 /E /L:K


... The backup's not over 'til the fat table sings.
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 3175
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  5:45p
Subj: CSS CD Price List                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

For more information or ordering call CSS at 517-263-0017 1pm - 7pm. Or order
online from our online shopping mall by calling 517-263-0273 speeds to 14.4.

Mastercard/VISA/AMEX/Discover/COD accepted!
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7th Guest                                             60.00
Adventures of Willy Beamish                           35.00
Aircraft Encyclopedia                                 42.00
American Business Phonebook 1                         24.00
American Business Phonebook 2                         33.00
Amiga AB20                                            21.50
AMSoft World of Ham Radio                             34.00
Animals MM San Diego Zoo                              32.50
Animals MPC San Diego Zoo                             32.50
Arthur's Teacher Trouble                              34.00
Audobon's Birds                                       32.00
Audobon's Mammals                                     32.00
Barney Bear Goes to School                            27.00
Barney Bear Goes to Space                             27.00
Battle Chess Enhanced                                 37.00
Beauty and the Beast                                  37.50
Bible Library                                         36.00
Bibles and Religion                                   21.50
Britannica Family Choice                              38.50
Britannica Select Software                            38.50
Business Master                                       25.00
Business Master                                       25.00
C User's Group Library                                36.50
California Collection                                 22.00
Career Opportunities                                  34.00
Carmen Sandiego Deluxe                                33.50
CD PowerBox                                           39.00
CD WinBox                                             39.00
Chessmaster 3000                                      32.00
CIA World Fact Book                                   29.00
CICA Microsoft Windows                                21.00
Classic Collection Plus 4-Pack                        59.00
Clipart Galore                                        37.50
Clipart Goliath                                       21.50
Clipart Heaven                                        34.00
Colossal Cookbook                                     21.50
Complete Bookshop                                     21.50
Composer Quest                                        43.50
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia                   114.00
Compton's MPC Encyclopedia                            84.00
Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia                     84.00
Conan the Cimmerian                                   40.00
Consumer Information Disc                             44.00
Crossword Cracker                                     29.50
Danger! Hot Stuff                                     25.00
Danger! Hot Stuff II                                  30.00
Deathstar Arcade Battles                              21.50
Desert Storm                                          41.00
Desktop Bookshop                                      33.50
Dictionaries and Languages                            21.50
Dictionary of the Living World                        43.50
Dinosaur Adventure                                    39.00
Education Master                                      25.00
Electronic Home Library                               42.00
Encyclopedia of Clipart                               33.00
Encyclopedia of Sound                                 27.00
Family Doctor                                         34.50
Font Master I                                         24.00
Font Master II                                        33.00
Food Analyst                                          41.50
Fresh Arte                                            41.00
Front Page News                                       31.00
Game Master                                           25.00
Game Pack I                                           30.00
Game Pack II                                          32.00
Games 1993                                            33.00
Garbo MS-DOS/MAC                                      20.50
GIF's Galore                                          21.50
Gigabtye Gold                                         30.00
Global Explorer                                      102.00
Golden Immortal                                       30.00
Great Cities, Volume 1                                30.00
Great Cities, Volume 2                                30.00
Great Wonders of the World                            48.00
Guinness Disc of Records                              32.00
Hacker's Chronicles                                   32.00
Ham Radio 3.0                                         21.50
Hobbes OS/2 (OS/2 Archive CD-ROM)                     21.00
House of Games                                        34.00
Illustrated Holy Bible                                54.00
Interactive Story Time, Volume 1                      30.00
Interactive Story Time, Volume 2                      30.00
International Business and Economic Atlas             29.50
Jedi Collection 3-Pack                                54.00
Jets and Props                                        36.50
Jones in the Fast Lane                                28.50
Just Grandma and Me                                   47.00
KGB World Fact Book                                   38.00
Kings Quest V                                         30.00
Klotski                                               24.00
Languages of the World                                53.00
Library of the Future, 1st Edition                    59.50
Libris Britannia                                      49.00
Lion's Share                                          33.00
Loom                                                  30.00
MacMillan Children's Dictionary                       44.00
Magazine Rack                                         29.50
Magnum One Shareware                                  34.00
Marketing Master 1992                                 24.00
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing                           33.50
Mayo Clinic                                           40.00
Microsoft Bookshelf                                   63.00
Microsoft Cinemania                                   63.00
Microsoft Works                                       63.00
MIDI Music Shop                                       37.00
Mixed Up Mother Goose                                 29.50
Monarch Notes                                         69.00
Money, Money, Money!                                  29.50
Monster Disc 2-Pak                                    49.00
Mother Earth 2                                        33.00
Mother of all Clipart                                 29.00
MPC Wizard for Windows                                19.00
National Business Directory                           44.00
National Geographic Mammals                           32.00
National Parks                                        37.00
Night Owl's Business Disc                             29.00
Night Owl's Business Disc                             29.00
Night Owl's v4.2                                      27.00
Night Owl's v5.0                                      28.00
Night Owl's v6.2                                      29.00
Night Owl's v7.0                                      30.00
Night Owl's v8.0                                      34.00
Night Owl's v9.0                                      39.00
North American Fax Book                               54.00
Ocean Digital Imagery                                 50.00
Original Shareware 1992                               23.00
Otherware I                                           30.00
Our Solar System                                      21.50
Pascal Paradise on CD-ROM                             39.00
PC Gameroom                                           33.50
PC Medic                                              38.00
PC-Sig #12                                            35.00
Peter and the Wolf                                    32.00
Phoenix v3.0                                          26.50
Pier 1                                                34.00
Pier 2                                                50.00
Plant Doctor                                          42.00
Profiles of Colleges                                  39.00
Programmer's MegaPack                                 39.00
ProPhone 1993                                        133.00


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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 3176
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  5:45p
Subj: CSS CD Price List                       Refer: NONE
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Publique Art                                          41.00
Publish-It!                                           34.00
Publisher's Dream Disc                                43.50
Publisher's Paradise                                  40.00
Reader's Library                                      37.50
Reference Library                                     32.50
Return to the Moon                                    43.00
Roger Ebert's Movie Companion                         48.00
Sci-Fi                                                33.50
Secret of Monkey Island                               30.50
Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe                       33.00
Shakespeare                                           22.50
Shareware Extravaganza                                49.00
Shareware Online                                      34.00
Shareware Overload                                    21.50
Shareware Studio I                                    26.00
Shareware Studio II                                   32.00
Sherlock Holmes                                       22.50
Sherlock Holmes, Consulting Detective                 30.00
Simtel 20                                             21.00
So Much ScreenWare                                    33.00
So Much ShareWare I                                   27.50
So Much ShareWare II                                  34.50
Software Vault                                        30.00
Software Vault II                                     34.00
Sound Sensations                                      21.50
Sound Works                                           24.00
SoundWAV                                              34.00
Source Code CD-ROM                                    25.00
Space Quest IV                                        30.00
Spirit of Excalibur                                   43.50
Sporting News                                         31.00
Sports Best on CD                                     33.50
Stellar 7                                             30.00
Street Atlas USA                                      93.00
Super Games for DOS                                   23.00
Super_CD                                              30.00
Super_CD II                                           34.00
Talking Jungle Safari                                 42.50
Talking Schoolhouse                                   42.50
TechnoTools                                           21.50
Tempra Access Photo CD Software                       37.50
Terrorist Group Profiles                              45.00
Time Magazine Compact Almanac                         33.50
Timetable of History: Science and Innovation          31.00
Too Many TypeFonts                                    21.50
Toolworks Illustrated Encyclopedia 2.0                44.00
Toolworks MPC Encyclopedia 1.0                        54.00
Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia 5.0                 54.00
Total Baseball                                        40.00
U.S. & World Atlas                                    34.00
U.S. Atlas with AutoMap                               34.00
U.S. Presidents                                       42.00
VGA Spectrum I                                        22.00
VGA Spectrum II                                       30.00
Visions of Saturn                                     30.00
Vital Signs                                           44.00
Wild Places                                           29.00
Window Master                                         25.00
Windoware                                             21.50
Windows 1993                                          33.00
Windows Shareware Gold                                42.00
Wing Commander II Deluxe                              63.00
Wing Commander/Ultima VI                              30.00
Wing Commander: Secret Missions                       34.00
WizPak                                                22.00
World Atlas                                           34.00
World of Flight                                       39.00
World of Trains                                       39.00
World Traveler                                        24.00
World View                                            29.00
World Vision 3-Pak                                    52.00
Wrath of the Demon                                    43.00

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From: LARISSA KOHLER                         Number: 3177
  To: CHAD STUDY                               Date: 08/10/93 10:10a
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Chad Study to All <=-

 CS> Would someone please make a decent CD with Amiga Shareware / PD files
 CS> on it.  Sure there is AB20 and Otherware, but lets face it these suck.
 CS> I want something comparible to Pier 2 or Night Owl 9 except featuring
 CS> Amiga files. I know there isn't as many Amiga files as IBM...  But if
 CS> you guys are going to make CD's with Amiga PD at least make file
 CS> descriptions comparible to the above CD's....

Have you tried Walnut Creek CDROM's?  They're supposed to have an excellent
Amiga cdrom.  I have 2 (soon to be 3) of their cdroms for IBM, and I (as
well as my users) are really happy w/them.  Their phone # is 1-800-786-9907.
I have the address, too (somewhere!) if you'd like it.  Hope this helps!
    LakeRider

... "You keep saying that, I don't think it means what you think it means"
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3178
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/11/93  5:39p
Subj: Re:  Disk                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hmmmmm....I think I may be a wealthy man and don't know it. (:>
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3179
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/11/93  5:40p
Subj: Re:  Disk                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you know someone that wants one bad enough to pay $350 for it, you  send
them to me...P-L-E-A-S-E !!!
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From: LORD HERMAN                            Number: 3180
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 08/11/93 10:29a
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Give me a call........638-2103 ask for joey

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 3181
  To: KEN TULLY                                Date: 08/11/93  2:47a
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROMS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hiya, Ken!
On Aug 08, Ken Tully spake thusly to Keith Sheehan:

 KT> will be BBS ready for both PCBoard, and Files.bbs
 KT> systems...   The only hold up on the disk right now is
 KT> getting the front end finnished.  I was hoping to have the
 KT> disk released before Sept 1, but if I have to wait for the
 KT> front end to be finnished, it will be about 3 weeks late.
 KT> Here is a question for you....  Would you release the disk
 KT> without a front end,or would you prefer to wait 2 to 3
 KT> weeks longer???.  We could have filled the disk with 650 or
 KT> so megs, but we only wanted the premier programs on the
 KT> disk.  We didn't see the need to just use "FILLER".  The
 KT> disk will be release approx 4 times a year, but will only
 KT> contain PREMIUM material.

i'm a sysop and i would MUCH rather wait for a disk that will "self-install"
than do it myself!  <shudder>  simtel is still sitting here uninstalled cuz i
have not the time to do it...

also, nobody wants dupes from prior edtions, or any of that OLD ver 1.2 and 1.3
stuff.  personally, none of my users want the unix stuff either!  i would say
that 500 megs is fine.  just fine.  :)


\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: DAVID BERNARD                          Number: 3182
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  9:44p
Subj: Sports Almanic                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey I am looking for a sport encyclopaedia with stats and details.  I am
aware that Sports Illustrated has one out called CD-ROM Sports Almanac.
Does any one have the Sports Illustrated CD or one that is better?  What's
the cost and details of how to purchase it?  Ltr...David
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From: JOSEPH FEDERKINS                       Number: 3183
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  1:45a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVES                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD-ROM Drives
=================================================================

Toshiba - 3401 Series - World's Fastest Access Time : 200ms
 - Fully Integrated Audio
 - Double Speed                              Internal $510 + shipping
 - 5.25" CD-ROM Cartridge Drive              External $620 + shipping
 - 330 KB/sec transfer
 - Embedded SCSI-2 Interface
 - MPC compliant
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible


TEAC CD-50 - Access Time : 265ms            Internal $378 + shipping
 - 300 KB/sec transfer rate
 - AntiDust design
 - SCSI-2 Compatible
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - SCSI-2 Interface kit required


NEC - Access Time : 280ms                    Internal $576 + shipping
 - CD Audio Capable                          External $653 + shipping
 - 265K Cache
 - 2 year warranty
 - Multispin 300 KB/sec transfer rate
 - Double dust doors and auto lens dust brush
 - High performance XT/AT, SCSI-2 Interface Kit Included
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible


Mitsumi - Access Time : 350ms                Internal $209 + shipping
 - 32K Buffer
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - Includes 16bit interface card, cable, and device driver
 - Internal Half Height form factor
 - 150 KB/sec transfer rate
 - Patented Dust proof design
 - Multimedia compliant


Sony Desktop Library Multimedia Starter Kit  Internal $307 + shipping
 - Access Time : 550ms
 - Includes 16bit interface card and cable
 - Complete Documentation
 - Installation Software
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - Internal Half Height form factor
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Includes 4 CD-ROM software titles


Sony Desktop Library Complete Multimedia Kit
 - Access Time : 550ms
 - Includes 16bit interface card and cable
 - 16-bit Pro Audio Spectrum sound board     Internal $505 + shipping
 - Sony SRS-58PC speakers and batteries      External $593 + shipping
 - Complete Documentation
 - Installation Software
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Includes 7 CD-ROM software titles

 Future Business Consultants, Inc     Custom configurations are
 1749 West Golf Road    Suite 305     always available
 Mount Prospect, Illinois   60056
 [phone]  M-F 10am - 8pm    SAT 12n  - 4pm
 [phone]  FAX               >>> All times are CST <<<

  Quanities are limited.    Prices are subject to change
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From: JOSEPH FEDERKINS                       Number: 3184
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  1:45a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVES 2                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD-ROM Drives
=================================================================

Sony External CD-ROM   (2nd Inventory)    $406 + shipping
 - Access Time : <340ms
 - 150KB/sec transfer rate
 - 8K Buffer
 - Built-in Audio
 - Includes 16bit interface card and cable
 - Laser Library Menu
 - Laser Library Installation
 - Includes 7 CD-ROM software titles
 - 1 year Sony Warranty


Texel
 - Access Time : 265ms                       Internal $488 + shipping
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible         External $565 + shipping
 - SCSI-2 compliant
 - SCSI-2 Interface Adapter
 - 64KB Buffer
 - 330 KB/sec transfer
 - Dust-Proof construction
 - Self cleaning lens


Texel CD-ROM Home Bundle                     Internal $604 + shipping
 - Same CD-ROM drive as above                External $714 + shipping
 - Stereo Headphones
 - Amplified Audio Speakers
 - CD-ROM Software
     Software Toolworks Multimedia        National Parks
     Software Toolworks Game Pack 2       PC-SIG Library
     The San Diego Zoo's: The Animals     Music Sampler CD
     Nautilus Multimedia Family Guide     Music Audio Control Software
     MPC Wizard Test and Tune-Up CD


Texel CD-ROM Multimedia Bundle               Internal $890 + shipping
 - Same CD-ROM drive as above                External $1011 + shipping
 - Stereo Headphones
 - Deluxe Microphone
 - Media Vision 16-bit Soundboard
 - Amplified Audio Speakers
 - CD-ROM Software
     Compton's Encyclopedia               Autodesk Explorer
     Sierra's King's Quest V              Where in the World is
     The San Diego Zoo's: The Animals           Carmen Sandiego
     Software Toolworks Game Pack 2       PC-SIG Library
     Nautilus Multimedia Family Guide     National Parks
     Music Sampler CD                     Music Audio Control Software
     MPC Wizard Test and Tune-Up CD       World View Media Clips





 Future Business Consultants, Inc     Custom configurations are
 1749 West Golf Road    Suite 305     always available
 Mount Prospect, Illinois   60056
 [phone]  M-F 10am - 8pm    SAT 12n  - 4pm
 [phone]  FAX               >>> All times are CST <<<

  Quanities are limited.    Prices are subject to change
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From: JOSEPH FEDERKINS                       Number: 3185
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  1:45a
Subj: CD-ROM SOFTWARE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD-ROM Software Bundles
=================================================================

Business Bundle               $43 + shipping
 - Software Vault 1 Shareware
 - Software Vault 2 Shareware
 - Prophone Business Edition

Reference Bundle              $65 + shipping
 - Reference Library
 - Family Doctor
 - Atlas Pack World/US

Game Bundle                   $50 + shipping
 - Total BaseBall
 - Mario is Missing
 - Deathstar for Arcade Battles

 **** All bundles require purchase of CD-ROM Drive ****
 **** See previous posts for prices and specifications ****


 Future Business Consultants, Inc     Custom configurations are
 1749 West Golf Road    Suite 305     always available
 Mount Prospect, Illinois   60056
 [phone]  M-F 10am - 8pm    SAT 12n  - 4pm
 [phone]  FAX               >>> All times are CST <<<

  Quanities are limited.    Prices are subject to change
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3186
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 08/10/93  1:31a
Subj: Computer Works                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >    Did you get the disk in the mail that i sent you yet? Let me know
  >when you do ok? thanks

Yes, I sure did.  You should have yours by now.  I sent it out Priority
Mail a few days ago.  Do you have it yet?  Thanks for the swap.

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3187
  To: CRAIG DOBIE                              Date: 08/10/93  1:46a
Subj: Computer Works                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Computer Works is an economical place to buy your CD-Roms with our
competitive pricing.  Download catalog.zip for the latest price list
complete with descriptions.  We have questionnaires online for placing
credit card and COD orders.

Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!                                   Jim...
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS  14.4k

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3188
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93  2:01a
Subj: CD-Rom Dupes                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

------------------------------------------------------------------------
               SHAREWARE CD-ROM DUPLICATION COMPARISONS
------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.0

CD-Rom          Total Files     CD-Rom                  Total Files

Big Sky ROM     6985            So Much Shareware 3     5597
Night Owl 9     4735            So Much Shareware 2     4666
Night Owl 8     4950            CD Powerbox             6800

          % OF DUPLICATE FILES AMONG POPULAR SHAREWARE CD'S
         ---------------------------------------------------
>> Note:  Diagonal reflects % of INTERNAL dupes within a given CD.    <<
>>        Top number is number of files. Bottom number is percentage. <<

     Big Sky    N.Owl 9    N.Owl 8  Powerbox    SMS3      SMS2
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Big     2         142       488       464       315       336
Sky    .02%       1.21%     4.08%     3.36%     2.5%      2.88%
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N.Owl   142       5         65        8         666       23
  9     1.21%    .1%       .67%      .06%       6.44%    .24%
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N.Owl   488       65        12        97        489       146
  8     4.08%    .67%      .24%      .82%       4.63%     1.51%
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Pwr     464       8         97        17        471       663
Box     3.36%    .06%      .82%      .25%       3.79%     5.78%
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SMS     315       666       489       471       0         1543
 3      2.5%      6.44%     4.63%     3.79%     0%        15.03%
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SMS     336       23        146       663       1543      7
 2      2.88%    .24%       1.51%     5.78%     15.03%   .15%
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For file lists and the latest catalog.zip, call Computer Works BBS.

Computer Works                                  Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 3189
  To: FILUTEK                                  Date: 08/11/93 11:02p
Subj: OS/2 and Linux CDROM's                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Filutek said:
 FF> Hi;

 FF> I'm looking for a source of CD's with OS/2 and Linux
 FF> related
 FF> files for my BBS. Any ideas?
EMS Professional Shareware will be showing a CD-ROM collection of 302 OS/2
products (July'93 CD-ROM) with an elaborate BBS door to search a database
describing the products. The Library on CD-ROM is $25. The door should be $25
more. Call [phone] for details, or see EMS at their ONEBBSCON booth in
Co. Springs.
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From: BUBBA THERRIEN                         Number: 3190
  To: MARK GUTT                                Date: 08/12/93 10:11a
Subj: cd rom software for sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I HAVE THE FOLLOWING CD ROM's FOR SALE:
->
->
-> THE 7th GUEST............................$35.00
->
-> ECOQUEST "THE SEARCH FOR CETUS"
-> by SIERRA (CHILDRENS ADVENTURE GAME).....$32.00
->
->
-> Both include original box, documentation, registration
-> cards and are in excellent condition. If interested,
-> post here, or call [phone].
->
->
-> --- WM v3.01/93-0001
->  * Origin: Back Alley BBS(414)722-4774 9600 Chris Reagan  (1:139/695.

I will take the 7th guest....let me know how you want to make
arrangements.
bubba
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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3191
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93  5:55p
Subj: Test Message                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day All!

Just want to make sure your all getting this...???? Now who was it that said
they wanted to start a branch in Australia...???<grin>

Mark Smith


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From: MARK SMITKA                            Number: 3192
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/11/93  7:18p
Subj: Got 'em!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>Whenever you have another "price challenge" for
MS>me, don't be shy!  8)

I won't hesitate to call. I used to wait for the local shows to buy CD's. I'm
confident now that there's no way I could've done any better at a show.

Take care,



-=<< Mark >>=-
===
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From: WYATT WOLFE                            Number: 3193
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 01/04/18  8:10p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Wes,

      I do not know why you are having a problem with qemm... I have ran every
version of Qemm since 5.0 was out... I now run 7.0.... I also run two Mitsumi
LU002S drives... Qemm loads both device drivers high and the MSCDEX high
also... both drives are accessable... and have never had any problems... Maybe
your parameters are wrong....... Like the commercial says..... "READ THE BOOK"
Wyatt Wolfe
Snoopy's
[phone]
1:114/214

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From: MAHMUT KURSUN                          Number: 3194
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/10/93  2:06p
Subj: Sound Sample CD-ROM Disc                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I am looking for a CD-ROM with .mid .voc .wav and even .iff and .mod
 > Can anybody tell me if one exists, and if so where I can get one?

25$, Resource Library Audio
from Knowledge Media 800-78-CDROM
or 916-872-3826

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From: JASON PAUL                             Number: 3195
  To: MICHAEL KONOR                            Date: 08/10/93  8:41a
Subj: CDROM Drives                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MK>SCSI CDROMs For Sale:

MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00

MK>Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac.

My drive from you works great on my amiga.  I see that you say that it works
great on a mac.  I still haven't located the drivers to run it. Have you sold
drives to mac users?  If so do you know where I can get the drivers or can you
give me the names of the mac users that have bought these drives from you?
Thanks!

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From: CLINT ANGLIN                           Number: 3196
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 08/11/93  7:40p
Subj: Cd-rom Caching????                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SF>I use CD Speedway and the only benefit I've found was if viewing gifs on
SF>the cd-rom it stops the jerkyness of the files when they first come up,
SF>if I setup a slideshow in Vpic it dramatically helps! I am, like you
SF>looking for a good cd rom cache program? If I could only find Norton
SF>Speedcache+ at a good price?

I highly recommend the PC Kwik Power Pak for only $39.  I just got it
and I am VERY pleased with it.  It includes the Super PC-Kwik cache
(both hard drives and CD-ROMs), a Print Spooler (works in Windows as
well as DOS -- faster than Print Manager), Screen Accelerator (for text
modes), Keyboard Accelerator, Command Line Editor, KwikBoot (Change your
boot configuration from a menu of up to 100 configurations at boot
time), and Power Disk (HD Defragger).

Super PC-Kwik is a very fast cache (the fastest I have tried) and
dynamically allocates memory to programs as it is needed.  That is, all
available memory is used for a cache; however, if a program is loaded
that requires more memory Super Pc-Kwik lends it the memory it needs and
then takes it back when the program is done.  This package of programs
is an incredible bargain for only $39, plus it comes with a 90 day money
back guarantee if you decide that you are not satisfied with it!

You can call PC-KWIK to order at 1-800-444-5945.

Clint


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From: JAMES REYLE                            Number: 3197
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93 11:59a
Subj: Engineering CD's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To all:
  Can any one tell me if there is CD rom disks geared more towanrd the
  Technical Engineer. Also, I'm looking for a disk that deals alot with
  Patents and developments. Something like what you would find out of
  an Almanac.

                              James Reyle


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3198
  To: RON THOMPSON                             Date: 08/12/93 12:58a
Subj: CD MASTER LIST PART 2                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RT>selling Just Grandma and Me (kid's interactive story) for $39.95
RT>everyday. Your catalog lists it for $42.00. Will you meet or beat that

No prob.  Gimme a call any time.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3199
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/12/93 12:58a
Subj: A FEW CHESTNUTS LEFT!                   Refer: NONE
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HP>-> 13. OUR SOLAR SYSTEM - Exciting NASA and observatory photos of the pl
HP>->     moons, comets, earth, and celestial phenomena!  Includes star loc
HP>->     planetarium programs, astronomical data, voyage simulators, + ton
HP>I'm inerested in this one! do you have any left?

Yep

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3200
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93 12:58a
Subj: CD MASTER LIST 1/2                      Refer: NONE
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 **************************************************************************
 August 1993             DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 8/12
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Microsoft Musical Instruments.58.00
 7th Guest.....................49.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........58.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    MIDI Music Shop...............29.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    Monarch Notes.................64.00
 American Business Phonebk 92..19.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 American Business Phonebk 93..39.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...38.50
 Amiga AB20....................15.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......27.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....27.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....30.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    National Business Directory...29.00
 Audubon's Birds...............25.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............25.00    National Parks................29.00
 Barney Bear Goes to Space.....20.00    Night Owl 4.1.................20.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl 8.0.................27.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....29.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 8/9 2-Pak...........55.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 Business Master...............20.00    North American Fax Book.......39.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    Ocean Digital Imagery.........34.50
 California Collection.........17.00    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...19.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    Our Solar System..............13.00
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 CD Winbox (New!)..............27.00    PC-SIG #12....................27.00
 CD Grab Bag Disc..............19.00    PC Gameroom...................27.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pentomino.....................32.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phethean's Shareware #1.......15.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phoenix 3.0...................13.00
 Clipart Galore................28.00    Pier 1........................27.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 2 (In stock!)............35.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........27.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....28.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....22.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Composer Quest................35.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........115.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency... 98.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....69.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........34.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....69.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........33.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........27.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Crossword Cracker.............24.00    Q & A.........................39.50
 Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Reader's Library..............31.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Reel Clips (New!).............44.50
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....36.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...42.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....27.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Secret of Monkey Island.......25.50
 Dinosaur Adventure............34.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...28.00
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Eagle Eye Shareware (New!)....25.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Online..............28.00
 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00    Shareware Overload............13.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3201
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93 12:58a
Subj: CD MASTER LIST 2/2                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 August 1993             DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 8/12
 **************************************************************************
                                   2 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Studio 1............20.00
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Shareware Studio 2............25.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........15.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...25.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Sights & Sounds...............25.00
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......29.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Find-It Webster...............49.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Font Master 2.................28.00    So Much Shareware 2...........27.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    Software Vault 1..............25.00
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....27.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..29.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Soundware Collection (New!)...27.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    SoundWAV......................28.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space Quest IV................24.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Grolier's Ill. Ency. 2.0......38.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........48.00    Street Atlas USA..............86.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......48.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...25.00    Super CD 2....................27.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....16.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Super Games For Windows.......16.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........28.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Technotools...................13.00
 House of Games................24.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..27.50
 Illustrated Holy Bible........47.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.50
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Total Baseball................29.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    Trump Castle..................33.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. & World Atlas............29.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 King's Quest V................24.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........27.50    Up All Night Shareware (New!).19.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    VGA Spectrum 1................15.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    VGA Spectrum 2................22.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    Visions of Saturn.............25.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    Vital Signs...................45.00
 Lion's Share..................24.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Loom..........................25.00    Window Master.................20.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........37.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander II Deluxe......57.50
 Magnum One Shareware..........27.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........27.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......25.00
 Manhole.......................36.50    World Atlas MPC...............27.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............28.00    World Traveler (New!).........18.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00    World View....................24.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......58.00    World Vision 3-Pak............45.00
 Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: WILLIAM E GOSSETT                      Number: 3202
  To: HARRY WHEAT                              Date: 08/11/93  9:15p
Subj: 6 disk cd-rom changer                   Refer: NONE
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 > I am looking for a BBS program that will run a 6 disk
 > Cd-rom changer on a BBS. I have looked all over and
 > can't find anything. If anyone knows of anything
 > please leave me a message.    Thank's
 >                                           Harry
 > Wheat.......

RA... will do it.
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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 3203
  To: CHRIS WISE                               Date: 08/12/93 10:13p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CW> I will take one, what is the access time and transfer
 CW> rate and your address...

Give me a call 205-824-2552  first.  They may all be sold out.

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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3204
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/12/93  8:17p
Subj: Liquadation Discs                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Ismail!

Tuesday August 10 1993 15:01, Ismail Arslangiray wrote to All:

 IA> CD Winbox   $12

Do you send COD..??? How about to Australia...??? Or better still I am looking
for a firm that want to establish an Australian Connection for their
products...????

Let me know!

Mark Smith

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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3205
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/12/93  8:19p
Subj: Walnut Creek Releases                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Ismail!

Tuesday August 10 1993 15:01, Ismail Arslangiray wrote to All:

 IA> Also CICA Windows will be updated next week.

Care to send this one to me in Australia as well...???? I would also like this
one too...

Thanks...

Mark Smith

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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3206
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/12/93  8:22p
Subj: FREE CD-ROM                             Refer: NONE
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G'day Vince!

Tuesday August 10 1993 18:55, Vince Sorensen wrote to All:

 VS> Night Owl 9... $35 Canadian all taxes included.
 VS> Buy Night Owl 9 and any other of our many instock CD-ROMs,
 VS> and receive a 640 Meg Shareware CD-ROM absolutely free.

Looking for a dealership in Australia...??? wanna make some **REAL**
bucks...??? Send me your catalog if you are and I will pass it on to the rest
of Australia...

Mark Smith

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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3207
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/12/93  8:24p
Subj: DEALER OPPORTUNITY                      Refer: NONE
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G'day Vince!

Tuesday August 10 1993 18:59, Vince Sorensen wrote to Canadians:

 VS> Canadian dealers wanted!

What about Australians, we are of the same past too you know..<grin>

Let me know if you want to set up an Australian dealership..??? I will
consider all offers....

Mark Smith

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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3208
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93  8:26p
Subj: Pagemaker 5.0                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day All!

Anyone got Pagemaker 5.0 on CD...??? if so how much...???

Mark Smith


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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3209
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93  8:27p
Subj: Australian Dealerships                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day All!

I will consider anyone who is interested in setting up a dealership in Sydney
Australia. I have a US contact in Bob Brisco (1:2602/115) and I would be happy
to make available a catalog of products available to the rest of Australia.

Let me know...

Mark Smith


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3210
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93  1:25p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'll pay $35 (including shipping) for your used (complete, undamaged) 7th
Guest.  Reply here or in netmail.

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 3211
  To: JOEY RATZSCH                             Date: 08/14/93  9:07a
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TB> Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi
 TB> 3500 internal cd rom
 TB> drives for $99.   I have about 20 left.  30 day warranty included.
 TB> 205-824-2552

 JR> What are the speeds and specs of these drives?
 JR> Are the drivers included, and is the SCSI card?

Sorry they are gone.  If you want to send me your phone number I'll call you if
I get any more.


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From: SCOTT MARTIN                           Number: 3212
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93  8:38a
Subj: Need Shareware Games Disk               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I run a Gaming BBS and am looking for a CD Rom Disk with NOTHING but PD and
Shareware Games to put up for download. I want all 92-93 stuff, nothing older.
Anyone have anything that fits the bill? Also it should have as much of the
640 Megs of the disk filled as is possible. Thanks!!!

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From: LEN GLADSTONE                          Number: 3213
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93 12:42a
Subj: Test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TESTING MY INEPTITUDE WITH AN OFFLINE MAIL READER

... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere! ___ Blue
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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 3214
  To: RON THOMPSON                             Date: 08/11/93  9:19p
Subj: Grandma and ME                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RT>I know that you said you would match or beat any advertised price on a
RT>Cd-Rom disk, right? Locally in El Paso at Computer City, they are
RT>selling Just Grandma and Me (kid's interactive story) for $39.95
RT>everyday. Your catalog lists it for $42.00. Will you meet or beat that
RT>price? What type of proof do you need? Thanks!

I will sell it to ya for $35.00 or trade for a Multimedia Encyclopedia.

Al James

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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 3215
  To: LESLIE THOMAS                            Date: 08/11/93  9:19p
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LT>I am interested in buying  a used CD Rom that is comptatible with using
LT>the SBPro as a controller.  Anyone have one they are interested in parting
LT>with?

I have one ... and even more...it's the tope of the line external model.
I can let it go for $265.00.  Let me know soon, Either way!

Al James


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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 3216
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 08/11/93  9:19p
Subj: CD ROM DISCS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CB>       Complete list of all available titles from C.S.S.
CB>              See end of list for ording options.
.
.
.
CB>Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia             14.00
.
CB>ProPhone 1993                                  33.00

Chris, I would like to purchase both of these items.  Please send C.O.D.
to ....
Al James
305-B Third Street
Dunbar, WV 25064

I am looking forward to receiving these disks.  Please send as soon as
possible.  From what I have seen, there have been a lot of problems with
people that have been putting ads like yours in the echo.  I hope we
don't have any...  By the way, tried calling the online mall, all I got
was a ring through.

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From: TIM KLAN                               Number: 3217
  To: HARRY WHEAT                              Date: 08/12/93 10:36a
Subj: 6 disk cd-rom changer                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HW>I am looking for a BBS program that will run a 6 disk Cd-rom changer on a BB

  >I
  >have looked all over and can't find anything. If anyone knows of anything
  >please
  >leave me a message.    Thank's

 EZROM will!  Thats the best program I've seen for BBS CDrom usage.
Feel Free to FREQ EZROM120.ZIP from 1:2601/566.  If your bbs doesnt make
a door.sys file, you'd better get a copy of QKDOOR2.ZIP as well. ITs a
great door and not nearly as expensive as some others I've seen.  Also
it reads straight text file lists (no need to make huge index files).

        ...tim klan
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3218
  To: TAMI THOMPSON                            Date: 08/12/93  7:13a
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> up to 800 disks. There is also Walnut Creek's Aminet CDROM; Aminet is a
> repository of Amiga related software, several FTP mirror sites exist
> around the world (Internet) - this CDROM is a snapshot of Aminet from
> JUN93. I think these are examples of what you are looking for... -Tami
Hi,
Also within two weeks we are publishing an Amiga disk in ISO-9660 format for
BBS Systems. TTYL

GroupWAre

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From: RON BYRD                               Number: 3219
  To: QMAIL                                    Date: 08/12/93 10:28a
Subj: DROP                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Add, Drop, or Reset a Conference.
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From: RANDY SHULER                           Number: 3220
  To: R. P. MEGGS                              Date: 08/12/93  4:21p
Subj: Hitachi CD-ROM's                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Howdy,
  I called that Terry Blount about the drives.  They are $99.00 bot without
controller.  The only controllers he has are new and $60.00 each.   That's $160
plus shipping, and seems too much for a used drive.  He told me himself that
the Mitsumi's are selling for about $180 new though he doesn't sell em.  What
to do, what to do [grin].
  If you happen to get on a board that has V2.1 or higher of the program CVIEW
(Colorview), I'd like to try it.  It's supposed to be pretty slick.  Thought
you had it, but search didn't find it, so it must have been another board list
[woops!]
                        Adieu, RANDY

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From: EDDIE PHILLIPS                         Number: 3221
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93 10:11p
Subj: S/W Toolworks encyc CD                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the Software Toolworks Multimedia (Grolier's) Encylopedia CD V5.0
for $45 + shipping.  Comes with manual, CD and registration card.  My
number is in the tagline....or just e-mail me here....thanks !!

... Voice: 919-870-6926 or Prodigy: CJBM15A
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From: DAVID SEITZ                            Number: 3222
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/12/93  4:27p
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

My Address is Po Box 589 Lansdale Pa 19446


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3223
  To: GEORGE MAYS                              Date: 08/06/93  2:26p
Subj: JUKEBOXES                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>It is straight forward, it works just like a jukebox, but used CD's instead
>of audio CD's or records.   (you have one CDrom drive, but can switch CD's
>anytime.)

Actually, most of the "jukebox" drives have a few actual drives in them (the
only "50 Gig" drive I know of has 4 actual drives, for example). The announced
Pioneer 18-disc drive apparently will have 3....


 * SLMR 2.1a * A motion to ajourn is always in order.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3224
  To: JON WHALEY                               Date: 08/06/93  2:28p
Subj: OS/2 DISK?                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Is there a OS/2 CD-Rom out there somewhere?

Selectware has a "1000+ OS/2 Applications" demo disk available - I THINK it is
free if you call them and ask for it....


 * SLMR 2.1a * True Multatasking: 8 PCs and a swivel chair

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3225
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 08/10/93  1:19p
Subj: NEC AND HITACHI                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Yup... I am running a Matubistua

Matsushita - parent company of Panasonic, Technics, among others....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Why is it that Wrong Numbers are never busy?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3226
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 08/10/93  1:27p
Subj: NEC AND HITACHI                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Hey dude! I was wondering if you could tell me if it is possible to run 2 or 3
>MITSUMI's off of one card...

Not to my knowlage - and I've done SOME checking into that idea - with any
existing interface card.
 At worst, it SHOULD be possible to design a card with multiple drive busses,
but I've not seen it done (yet?)....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Don't you wish: You'd seen Silk wiped out in a dice game?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3227
  To: BRENT CRIGHTON                           Date: 08/10/93  5:41p
Subj: CD'S WANTED                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>does anyone know if there has ever been a "chilton's" guide to part,
interfaces
>and other proprietary stuff for pc's, mini's, and or main frames.

Not on CD-ROM, not "Chilton's", but there was such a guide put out for the
PC/Clone market - back in 1985.
 It was a LARGE book even then, and I don't think anyone has bothered to update
it....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Devoted to the study of Cat bathing as a martial art.

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3228
  To: MING CHAN                                Date: 08/10/93  3:25p
Subj: Re: NIGHTOWL                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     Night Owl 9.0 For Sale As many copies as you would like for


                      $ 25.00 a Copy !!!


               Call Free Spirit And ask for Barney !
                      ******************
                        1-800-638-5757

              Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
                     it will be higher.

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 3229
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/13/93  3:47a
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  I have a copy of Precision Mapping that I don't need, (already have the
disc), that I will be willing to part with. This is the complete map of the USA
that allows you to zoom all the way down to the street you are looking for.
Search by area code, city name, street name, and zip code. The disc cost $88.00
to $120 new depending on your source. I will consider all trade offers or cash.
Thanks,

Michael Sells




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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3230
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/13/93  1:23a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3231
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/13/93  1:23a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3232
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 08/13/93  1:24a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->> )))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((
->>
->> NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
->> period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
->> bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
->> who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
->> viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.
->>
->>                       PRICE - $25.00
->>
->> To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263
->>
->> )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((
>>    Is that busty babes 3.0?

Yes, version 1.0 volume 3.0 ! Interested, give us a call at the above
number and we'll be happy to help you out.

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3233
  To: MARIO DI MAMBRO                          Date: 08/13/93  1:24a
Subj: Re: Cd Chess Game                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    I noticed you sell cd's and cd stuff, so I thought I would ask
>>    you if the new game Chess Meister 5 Billion & 1 is available
>>    on CD?  I saw it on disk at a local software store, but it
>>    take 27 Megs on the HD so I was hoping I could get a copy on
>>    CD.

Not that I aware of off the top of my head, but will check into it
and let you know.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3234
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 08/13/93  1:24a
Subj: Re: CDROM Specials                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>>                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
BO>>                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
BO>>                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

BO>>*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

BO>>Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
BO>>Magnum Sight/Sound        Mega AV                 So-Much-Shareware
BO>>Magnum Games/Windows      Mega Win/OS2            Original Shareware
BO>>Shareware Studio #2       Shareware Tiger         Jem Disc w/floppy

BO>>***********************************************************************

>>     Boris,
>>            I would like to maybe order 3 cd's, consisting of
>>            Busty Babes 3 for (25), MegaAV for 15 or Sound
>>            Sensation for 10, can you tell me which sound disc is
>>            better and can you give me an address to send you a
>>            money order and if possible I would like to receive a
>>            catalog before I order anything! Very Interested,

There's a number of diffrent sound cd's out on the market. It all depends
on what type of sound your looking for and what your plaining to do with
the cd. There's one out that's called "Soundware", which claims to contain
the worlds largest selection of sound files on cd. It has over 10,000
diffrent sound files and is BBS ready. There's also F/X sound, which is
more commercial and offers a more professional sound base. These are
just a few that offer high quaility as well as a very good selection.

If your interested, please call us at the number above and we'll be happy
to discuss the matter further with you.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3235
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 08/13/93  1:24a
Subj: Re: RED HOT                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >> HOT PIX 5

Newest in the X-Rated Hot Pix seriers, with nearly 600 megs of
adult images and it's bbs ready.

 >> PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK

A large assortment of various source codes, text files, routines and
more and it to is BBS ready.

 >> AMATEUR MODELS

New Release from the authors of "Monster Disk 2". This is an R-Rated
adult cd, with good scans.

>>    Tell me more about these discs, please??

Hope this helps....if not...call us and we'll be happy to help you
further.

Boris Osadciw

... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3236
  To: RON COLEMAN                              Date: 08/13/93  1:24a
Subj: Re: Adult CD's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Can someone tell me a good quality Adult Cd that has Gif's and
>>    animations for a reasonable cost like around $30 to $40 ? Or
>>    any one have a used one for sale.I only have 1 disk right now
>>    and its for my kids (animals).Thanks.

Busty Babes v1.0 vol3.0 or Ecstacy. Either of these will more than
fill your needs.

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 3237
  To: LORD HERMAN                              Date: 08/12/93  8:59p
Subj: Software sale/trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LH>Give me a call........638-2103 ask for joey

    I don't see the 638 prefix in the Kansas City area phone book. Where
    are you located, and what is the area code if you're long distance?
    What was it that you wanted me to call about...  your message
    didn't say.

- Heather
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From: JOSE TORRES                            Number: 3238
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 08/12/93  5:51p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JM>  I have a hardly used (in new condition) NEC CDR-35
 JM> external CD-ROM drive for sale. The complete package
 JM> contains an NEC interface card and cable, all original
 JM> manuals, and software drivers.
 HEEEYYYY!!!! I've got first dibs!!!!! FORGET NEGOTIABLE!!! I'll give you
asking price if it's at least 350ms access time and 150kb transfer rate.
Also, let me know if it's a SCSI or proprietary interface. You mentioned
NEC interface, but what type?  SPEAK TO ME!! Definitely interested if it's a
SCSI. CAll me collect if need be. The number is 813-458-1414. If not there,
leave a message and I WILL call you back. I'll even reimburse you for the call.

                                                Thanx a mil,

                                                        Jose Torres

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From: JOSE TORRES                            Number: 3239
  To: YVES DESJARDINS                          Date: 08/13/93  1:37a
Subj: CD for trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 YD> BattleChess Enhanced Edition

I would like this, But the only thing I have to trade is a new ( 1 month old )
2400bps modem. If you want it, call me at 813-458-1414. If I'm not there, leave
a mess. and I will get back to you.
Also, I am willing to pay cash for it. I can get it new here locally at
Wal-Mart for 40.00. I'll offer 25.00. The modem is worth 40.00. That's what I
paid for it a month ago. Have receipt. Lemme know.

                                                Thanks

                                                Jose Torres

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From: JOEY RATZSCH                           Number: 3240
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/10/93 10:45a
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TB> Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500 internal cd rom
 TB> drives for $99.   I have about 20 left.  30 day warranty included.
 TB> 205-824-2552

What are the speeds and specs of these drives?
Are the drivers included, and is the SCSI card?

Joey


... If I were here more often, I wouldn't be gone so much.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 3241
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/08/93 11:18p
Subj: Prophone cd's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1993 Prophone 7 cd set- includes residential and business listings for the
entire nation.
$85 or make me an offer.
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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 3242
  To: ALLAN KENNEDY                            Date: 08/09/93  8:37a
Subj: WANT TO SWAP                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> I'll make an offer of $75.00 on the 800ms cd-rom drive Allen.

> -Joe
AK> Joe I appreciate the offer, but I am hopeing to trade all listed plus
AK> maybe a little booty for a faster cd. thanks for the reply
AK> "BIG AL"

Ok Allen, keep me in mind if you happen to change your mind..

-Joe
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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 3243
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/11/93 10:06p
Subj: Discs                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 IA> CD PowerBox $12
 IA> CD Winbox   $12
 IA> Night Owl's v.9 $21
 IA> So Much Shareware III $21
 IA> GroupWare

Whats would the total be on these with your generous %5 discount? ;-)

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From: MANNY WISE                             Number: 3244
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93 12:02p
Subj: Prices                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I need price on Night Owl Bussines & PC-Sig12..
Thanks..

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 3245
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/12/93  7:06a
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 WT> Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't
 WT> seem to work with QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and
 WT> should be able to be moved around by QEMM.  Perplexed
 WT> beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would
 WT> help.

Hmmm... mine works (infact, all 3 mitsumis work with QEMM v6.01) I will have to
think about it. What version of QEMM do you have?

CJK

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From: DAVE DEGEAR                            Number: 3246
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/12/93  4:46p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to
 > work with QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and should be able to
 > be moved around by QEMM.  Perplexed beyond belief, maybe I
 > need a drink.  Any ideas would help.

   I had the same problem until I updated to the latest MITSUMI drivers.  I
have the file MITSUMI.ZIP available for f'req or download on your first call
(604-753-2257).  The date of the MTMCDE.SYS file must be Mar 5, 1993 to work
properly.

          ...Dave


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From: KIRK REEVES                            Number: 3247
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/12/93 11:52p
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> 1....................37.00
 MS>  Animation Fantasies 1 or 2....29.00    Porkware 2
 MS> (New!).............37.00
 MS>  Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private

I am interested in the two disks above.  How far are you from Portland, OR?
I would like to visit your shop.

Also do you have any cd-players  Kodak Photo capiable?


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3248
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/12/93 11:26p
Subj: NIGHTOWL                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

VS>->             Tell them Kevin sent you for this Deal or
VS>->                    it will be higher.
VS>Hi Kevin!

VS>    Tell you what - I'll give you as many copies of Night Owl 9 as YOU
VS>would like  for

VS>                      $ 24.50 a Copy !!!
VS>                      ******************
VS>     Tell them Vince sent you, or the price will be the same.

Nice touch Vince, I like it!  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3249
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 08/12/93 11:26p
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TD> >life on the edge. I'll take ALL THE BUSTY'S I CAN GET MY HANDS ON!

TD>On July 20th, I was arrested and all my BBS equipment was seized. If
TD>found guilty, I am facing 15 years / $25,000 for sale & possession of
TD>obscene material.

Could you be a little more specific?  What material on your BBS was
deemed "obscene" by the authorities.  I have a hard time believing that
anything on Busty Babes could be construed as *obscene* by current
legal definitions.  I haven't seen anything on Busty Babes that can't
be found in any LEGALLY DISTRIBUTED adult magazine.

Let us in on your situation . . . what are the details???  In what
state do you live?

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3250
  To: DON BRADEN                               Date: 08/12/93 11:26p
Subj: re order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DB>Did you get the fax? and Is the order on the way? Thanks

Don,

I certainly did, and thanks for the order.  A couple of your CD's
were out of stock, so they didn't ship until 7/27.  Shipments to Canada
can be unpredictable because of the customs situation, so that would be
my guess as to why they haven't arrived yet.  The package was insured,
so if you don't see them in another week or so, let me know and I will
pursue it further.

Thanks,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3251
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 08/12/93 11:26p
Subj: A FEW CHESTNUTS LEFT!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

VS>Send me Clipart Goliath
VS>Colossal Cookbook
VS>Out solar system

Vito,

Be glad to, but first I need to confirm by phone.  Either give me a call
@ 509-457-2892, or leave your # so I can contact you.

Thanks,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3252
  To: B.A. CROWELL                             Date: 08/12/93 11:26p
Subj: CD ROM Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BC>    I saw your ad for CD's in this echo.  Do you carry Drives as well?  If
yo
BC>do I am interested in a 3 or 4 stand alone type for a BBS.  Can ya help?

Bruce,

Sorry, but I haven't found that extra 6 or 7 hours a day I need to delve
into hardware!  8)  I only stock CD's right now, which is OK for me
because I like to concentrate on one area if I can.  Try Boris or Ismail
in this echo.  They both have excellent prices on drives.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3253
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93 11:26p
Subj: SEEDY-ROM 6-PAKS: $149                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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                     SEEDY ROM 6-PAK: $149 + $4 S/H.
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These famous adult CD sets are now available again. For a time they were hard
    to find, but Starvector has several sets in stock ready for immediate
 delivery at only $149 + $4 shipping. That's only $24.83 per CD, and each is
    packed with top-quality GIF pix with GIF's and FLI/GL animation on #6.

      >>> NO DUPLICATION BETWEEN CD'S!   OVER 29,000 GIF's IN ALL! <<<

                           >>> BBS-READY <<<

  Find a better advertised price?  Call us and we'll BEAT it!  No hassles.

   BONUS:  Seedy #7 (Seventh Heaven) available separately for only $31,
   or $24 if purchased with 6-Pak.

                          (Must state age 21+)

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3254
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93 11:27p
Subj: NEW ADULT CD TITLES!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

***************************************************************************
            NEW ADULT CD'S AVAILABLE FROM STARVECTOR . . . .
***************************************************************************

 Busty Babes 3.0...............33.00    After Dark Trilogy (movies)...45.00
 All Beauties..................36.00    Southern Beauties.............35.00
 Amateur Models................35.00    Dirty Talk (movie)............59.00
 Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00    Girls of Vivid 1 or 2.........45.00

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MARK WOMACK                            Number: 3255
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/13/93  3:40p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Wes,

 WT> Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work with
 WT> QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved around by
 WT> QEMM.  Perplexed beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would

The solution is simple:  Call QEMM's BBS and download the Mitsumi driver
they have on the board.  It can be loaded HIGH just fine.  Apparently,
this is the newest driver for the Mitsumi because it looks and acts
just like the one that came with the drive itself except that it loads
high.  The number for the QEMM BBS is 310-314-3227.


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From: BRETT PARKER                           Number: 3256
  To: RON MITCHELL                             Date: 08/12/93  6:20a
Subj: Re: CD's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ron Mitchell scribbled in a message to Ismail Arslangiray:

 -=> Quoting Ismail Arslangiray to Ron Mitchell <=-

 > the Shareware Studio Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 and my CD won't read them
 > except on a hit or miss basis.  Now I'm kind of scared to buy any more

RM> My plan now is to check with the tech people at Mitsumi and
RM> try to get this problem resolved without my users having to
RM> do without access to the CDRom for an extended period of
RM> time.  I'm also going to go by the dealer's store where I
RM> bought the reader and try the CDs in some of their other
RM> Mitsumi CDs to be fair.

I had the same problem with my first Mitsumi, the one with the slower access
time and the 8-bit controller. It happened with other disks as well as
Shareware Studio, but that was usually the one in because of the BBS. I never
did figure it out, I just bought one of the newer drives and have had no
problems since.

--Brett

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From: CHIP MORROW                            Number: 3257
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/12/93  7:48a
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WT> Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work with QEMM.
WT> The driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved around by QEMM.
WT> Perplexed beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would help.

Had the same problem here.  Only way around it is to REM the device=
line in your config.sys, then have optimize run through it's stuff.
When done, put "/X" on the end of the MTMCDE.SYS line to load the driver
into high memory.  Works well here on my 386sx-40.  From my config.sys:

DEVICE=\cd\MTMCDE.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0 /M:20 /T:5 /I:10 /X


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From: DICK WILSON                            Number: 3258
  To: HARRY WHEAT                              Date: 08/12/93  1:56p
Subj: 6 disk cd-rom changer                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HW-|I am looking for a BBS program that will run a 6 disk Cd-rom changer on a B
HW-|I have looked all over and can't find anything. If anyone knows of anything
HW-|please leave me a message.    Thank's

Try 'ROMD202.ZIP' - excellent door, run it on my BBS using 2 Pioneer DRM 600's.

 * OLX 2.1 * Bungie jumpers are suicidal wanna-be's


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From: DON HOOKER                             Number: 3259
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 08/12/93  2:16p
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Danny, I saw that you had a Grolier's Encyclopedia for $20. If the
other guy doesn't want it, I'll take it your price and pay UPS shipping
and cod charges. Don Hooker
506 Barnes Drive
Brandon,Fla. 33511
leave me a note here or go ahead ang ship if you want.....thanx Don
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From: JAMES JONES                            Number: 3260
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93  5:58p
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I fouled it up, this is meant for Mark Clardy.  I would appreciate a
copy of your CD-Rom catalog.
James. B. Jones
1002 Yellowbird Place
Sun City Center, FL 33573
Thanks in advance, J.B.


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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 3261
  To: SHANE HEDRICK                            Date: 08/12/93 12:33a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom List                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SH>     Shane Hedrick
SH>     204 E. QuailCreek #B29
SH>     Cushing  OK, 74023

SH>                        Thanks

 Ok, we'll send you a list as soon as possible.  Thanks for replying.

                                               Mark
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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 3262
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 08/12/93 12:34a
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MG>  Hello Mark.  Yes I would like the list of "ALL" the CD's your carry.
MG>  Please mail to:
MG>                  Max Green
MG>                  399 Westmeade Dr
MG>                  Gretna, LA. 70056

 We'll send you one as soon as possible.  Thanks for replying.

                                               Mark
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From: HERMAN WIGGINS                         Number: 3263
  To: CHRIS WISE                               Date: 08/12/93  4:20p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Chris!

Hey I will take one of those 99 dollar drives...

 * WCE 1.10/2094 * ++ Hey Rocky, watch me pull a tagline outta this hat!

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3264
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/12/93  1:10a
Subj: Re:  Disk                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LN>Bob believe it or not this is no joke--The BB 1.0 disc's are going for
  >premium dollar, and Boris last week sold one for $250.00--I am sure
  >that he is down to 1 or 2 left, and the consumers are bidding him
  >to sell them against his desires--:)

Hi Lee.  I think I have a Busty Babes 1.0 also.  Can you tell me how I
can be sure?  I appreciate it!

                                                        Jim...

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From: LEE MILLIGAN                           Number: 3265
  To: SAM FERTITTA                             Date: 08/12/93  7:06p
Subj: adult titles                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > -=> Quoting Lee Milligan to Dave Reed <=-

 > LM> * In a message originally to JOHN ROBINSON, Dave Reed said:
 > > JR>> Our new catalog is available for freq or download from the BBS

 > > JR> Nice prices...........

 > > JR>> ... If Clinton is the answer, it must have been a stupid
 > LM> question!

 > > JR> Stupid Mistake on your part tho...........

 > > I'm proud of her.  As more of the silent majority become
 > > vocal about their political feelings, Clinton's going to feel
 > > like a little man in a big house, real soon now.  At this
 > > rate, I'll be able to publish a CD-ROM full of Clinton's
 > > mistakes by the end of summer.  He's such a joke, I'll have
 > > to market it as a comedy, though.  ;-)


 > > ... My Broad Based Contribution - Kick Hillory in the butt!

 > LM> 'Scuse me for butting in....but let me know when you compile that
 > LM> 'Clinton's Mistakes' CD......I would like to purchase
 > LM> one......thanks... -!- FMail 0.94

 >  LM,
 >  Yeah, I would like to buy one also. But at this rate, it
 > might be a
 >  2 disker, or 3, or 7....................
 >  Sam.....


 > ... The 1st thing that Clinton wanted on his desk was
 > Flowers. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: ANTHONY GATLIN                         Number: 3266
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93 11:21p
Subj: More Great Values!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 ********************************************************************
 *         More Great Values From Integrated Microsystems           *
 *                        [phone]                            *
 *  U.S. Robotics 14.4 Sportster     without fax     with 14.4 fax  *
 *     Internal......................-> 147 <-..........-> 175 <-   *
 *     External......................-> 165 <-..........-> 195 <-   *
 *                                                                  *
 * Yokohama Telecom 14.4 with 14.4 send/receive fax                 *
 *     Internal.....143    External.....179     Pocket.....199      *
 *                                                                  *
 * TyIN 2000 Voice Mail/Modem/Fax..........................165      *
 *                                                                  *
 * Fax Phone Auto Switch....................................59      *
 *                                                                  *
 *  545 Meg Connor 10 ms Hard Drive........................649      *
 *  340 Meg Western Digital Caviar 13ms Hard Drive.........329      *
 *  340 Meg Maxtor 14ms Hard Drive.........................329      *
 *  250 Meg Western Digital Caviar 13ms Hard Drive.........249      *
 *                                                                  *
 *  Hewlett-Packard Laserjet 4............................1369      *
 *                                                                  *
 *  250 Meg Internal Colorado Tape Backup..................179      *
 *  120 Meg Internal Colorado Tape Backup..................149  We  *
 *                                                            also  *
 *  Alabama Residents please include 4% for sales tax.       carry  *
 *  Please add $7 for Shipping and Handling.               systems  *
 *                                                                  *
 *  Integrated Microsystems   "Tremendous Products     Dealer and   *
 *  4402 Englewood Road        without a tremendous    quantity     *
 *  Helena, AL 35080           price."                 pricing      *
 *  [phone]             [phone]          available.   *
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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 3267
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 08/12/93  9:22a
Subj: RE: SegaCD's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


>Is that cd+g any good? My cdtv player can play that,,,what exact artists
>are on it and what price do you want for it?
It's a cool disk,unfortunately I can't play it since I got rid of my
SegaCD.It has 2 songs by Jimi Hendrix,2 by Information Society,2 by Fleetwood
Mac,2 by Little Feat,2 by Chris Isaak.It's in a double case with a regular
CD,so they would have to go together.You can have both for $10+S&H.
>btw,
>where did you buy that?
They came with my SegaCD.

If interested,you can send a M/O to:  Diana Kirksey
                                      1624 Hwy.99 Sp79
                                      Manteca,CA.  95336

You can reach me at my BBS:   Deanna's StarBBS  [phone] or Voice
[phone]


                                      Diana


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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3268
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 08/13/93  1:57a
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

10 Aug 93 11:05, Tony Davis wrote to Mike Shannon:

 TD> found guilty, I am facing 15 years / $25,000 for sale & possession of
 TD> obscene material.

"Possession of obscene material" -- what a country (though one hopes this is
actually a manifestation of Oklahoma BibleBeltism)!  Next it'll be illegal to
talk about not paying taxes.  I remember when what a person did in the privacy
of their home, not infringing on another's rights, was no one else's business.
Good luck.

I'm still looking for a used copy of 7th Guest for $35 shipped.  If it's still
legal to play computer games, of course.

+++ Too many laws, not enough freedom.

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From: NANCY PORTER                           Number: 3269
  To: BEN ACKERMAN                             Date: 08/13/93  1:25p
Subj: Problems w/ CD-ROMs                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BA> found that my Mitsumi is particularly sensitive to a dirty disc. I had
BA> problems with reading a particular disc. All it took was a wipe with a
BA> damp cloth. If your having problems with hit or miss reading or reading
BA> errors this is something you might want to try. I would not recomend
BA> using a paper towel as

I too found this, and cleaned the lens and that took care of the
problem.  The disc was clean but the lens had accumliated a little
dust...problem solved!
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From: JAMES REYLE                            Number: 3270
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/13/93 10:45a
Subj: MAPS CDROM Which one?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To all:
 Looking for a good USA Map where I can get very detailed on street
 level. I was looking at these two, and I wanted to know what you
 guys thought about these programs.
             1. Precision Mapping
             2. Street Atlas

                                 Thanks
                                 James Reyle


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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 3271
  To: STEVE JONES                              Date: 08/12/93  5:19p
Subj: The 7th guest and mit                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          Steve Jones wrote
----------------------------------------
>>CD-ROM drive host adapter?
>>
----------------------------------------

  No, you must have the adapter card (atleast with the new ones).  I think it
is the IRQ or DMA (one of them does not match up)...

Lee Christopher Wise
===
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From: SCOTT MARTIN                           Number: 3272
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/13/93  8:59a
Subj: CD ROM Disk                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Mike, I see you are getting a lot of good references. I wanted you to give
me a reference for a Good CD ROM Disk to buy from you. I run a Gaming BBS. I
am looking for a disk with NOTHING but Shareware and P.D. Games and Cracks.
I'd like it to be all DOS or MOSTLY DOS (some windows Games are OK). I am
already a distributor of Apogee, Epic MegaGames and Software Creations, so
those wouldn't necessarily need to be on it, but I'd like it to be good
quality games, not just a bunch of junk. Of course they would have to be
archived and with FILES.BBS in the directories, and I would like to have as
much of the disk filled as possible (in the 600-640 meg range). Lastly, I'd
like for it to be mostly '93 and late '92 games. Got anything like that? Lemme
know. Also I'll be pre-paying, so give me the info and total cost to do so.
Thanks!
Scott

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From: JOHN MORRISON                          Number: 3273
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93  5:29p
Subj: Battlechess-enhanced                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for the replies re: Battlechess-Enhanced but we have found it  in
Winnipeg for $55.00.


                                        Thanks again

                                                John

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From: RACHEL REPSTAD                         Number: 3274
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/12/93  4:37p
Subj: Re: PROBLEM WITH A CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BF> * SLMR 2.1a * From the Law Offices of Dewey, Cheatham, and
BJ>Howe.

BJ>Just had to steal this one! -- Priceless!

BJ>... A feature is a bug with seniority.

What is all this stuff with leisure suit larry? Gotta go need to meet an
appointment at the airline to renew my Aerodork card. [Just another Lesiure
Suit Larry thing.]

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From: MICHAEL SHUBER                         Number: 3275
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/11/93 10:22p
Subj: 7th Guest & SBPro                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am interested in some update or patch that is supposed to be out for
the Sound Blaster Pro and The 7th Guest.  Does anyone know anything
about this???
___
 X SLMR 2.0 X All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here.

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From: CURT LARSON                            Number: 3276
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/13/93  6:02p
Subj: SCSI Cables                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking to purchase 2 external, 50 pin SCSI cables (or one with multiple
plugs).  I need a female on either end.  Please call [phone] or leave a
message here.  Thanks.

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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 3277
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/13/93  5:41p
Subj: Just Grandma and Me CD                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I will do that when it gets closer to the time that the grant money gets
here. Thanks Mike.


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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 3278
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/13/93  5:45p
Subj: Grandma and ME                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Are you talking about a new or used copy, Al? I am just getting into
CdRom, so I don't have much in the way of disks yet. I will keep you in
mind. Please be patient - it could be another three or four weeks before
the grant money arrives.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3279
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/13/93  4:25p
Subj: X Movie Review CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

A while back, you gave me some prelim. data on a soon-to-be-released CD
that had reviews of X-rated movies on it by Jim Holliday. As I recall,
you know the producers. Can you find out (a) if that CD's been released
and (b) where it can be bought and (c) what the street prices currently
is?? Would be mucho appreciated ((:>

... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?"
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3280
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 08/11/93  3:50p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Actualy I wrote in Howard Phillips Lovecraft, I didn't like any
>of the candidates.

I've been known to write in John W. Campbell, jr. on occasion....


 * SLMR 2.1a * You must be from the shallow end of the Gene Pool....

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3281
  To: LESLIE THOMAS                            Date: 08/11/93  3:52p
Subj: MATSUSHITA CD-ROM DRIVE W               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>DA>I am searching for a matsushita cd-rom drive.  Actually, I am searchin
>DA>drive that will interface with A creative Labs SoundBlaster pro.

>One of the drives that you are looking for is the Mitsumi...

NOT!!!!!!!!
 The only drives available for the SB Pro propriatary interface are
Matsushita/Panasonic units. Matsushita is the parent company for Panasonic....


 * SLMR 2.1a * I have heard the Sounds of Silence.... 8-<

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3282
  To: ROBERT BIR                               Date: 08/13/93  2:46p
Subj: Re: Trade adult CD for Adult            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 09 Aug 93  22:30:11, I heard Robert Bir shout to Kevin Plummer:

RB>  hello i have  xxx extreme if your still interested.
RB>              leave me mail
RB>                      ROBERT A BIR

Sorry, I would have, But already gotten rid of it.

                   Thanks Anyway.

              ....|<evin

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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 3283
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/13/93  1:28a
Subj: BB                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Bob Jackson <=-

Hi Boris -

What are your prices on the three versions of Busty Babes?


Thanks..

Steve

... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 3284
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/13/93  1:30a
Subj: SOME NEW ADULT CD'S!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> Busty Babes 3.0...............33.00

You released a message on 8/5 that you were selling BB 3 for $25.  What
happened???


Steve
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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 3285
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93 10:58p
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          **********  GRAPHICAL IMAGES of FLORIDA, INC. **********

                   ********* P R E S E N T S *********

                 The NEW RELEASE of   "Southern Beauties"
                A FULLY COMMERCIAL - FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC


675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256 From Original 35mm Slides
300 Megs of the Best Images in 24 bit True Color. Installs Quickly &
Easily - Menu Driven - User Friendly - Popup Help Menus - Mouse Support
Keyword Search - Sound Blaster Intro - Multiple Directory Slide Show

 ********** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS **********

To Order Contact: Tradeshows Inc. 317-651-9848 or 317-651-1223


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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 3286
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 08/13/93 10:43p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 08-06-93  23:19 Peter Dettelis shared these words of wisdom:

 PD> Computer Select on CD-ROM is available for $300 for a particular
 PD> month which holds a full year of info or on a subscirption basis of one
 PD> disc per month with a rotating year worth of info for about $1,000.

 Thanks. Not looking for computer publications at the moment, though.

 PD> I have not used the Bureau's nonfiction product but believe the World
 PD> Library CD-ROM is better.  CMC research puts out Shakespear and

 I have acquired Electronic Home Library (from World Library), and it
 appears to be a subset  of Library of the Future (fortunately, a subset
 including several philosophical works of interest to me). Got a great deal on
 it for $18.95. Magazine Rack is turning out to be good at work. Mag rack has
a
 much better search/retrieval engine than Electronic Home Library

 PD> Newsweek on CD-ROM retails for $70 and seems to be starting at a
 PD> street price of $50.  I believe the price will drop in the future.

 I found a reference to a place that will sell it for $39 when it comes
 out, but they're not sure when that will be or what, exactly, it will
 include. Sounds like it might be useful, though.

 PD> The COSUG BBS has switched back to the old phone numbers.  Jeff
 PD> Shapiro is the new SysOp.

Don't think I know him. Is Bonnie still chair?



... Where the Night Owl hoots
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From: LOIS FRANKEL                           Number: 3287
  To: PETER DETTELIS                           Date: 08/13/93 10:43p
Subj: Need information finder e               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 08-05-93  00:11 Peter Dettelis shared these words of wisdom:

 PD> I am looking for the Information Finder Encyclopedia (World Bood
 PD> Encyclopedia) CD-ROM disc if anyone has it for sale or trade.

We have it at work (in the library, not, unfortunately, in my office),
and I find its coverage pretty superficial, much inferior to Groliers.


... If at first you don't succeed, put out a bug fix
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From: BILL HENDERSON                         Number: 3288
  To: SHANE HEDRICK                            Date: 08/13/93  3:48p
Subj: Microsoft Office                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Shane, I have 7th guest and CD Game Pack II that I'd trade.How about it?
Leave me a note or call 704-393-5211. Thanks




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From: MING CHAN                              Number: 3289
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/12/93  7:54p
Subj: NIGHTOWL                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 ->> On 11 Aug 93  01:30:16, Mike Shannon said to Ming Chan:

 MC>PC-Pix I 646MB,5500+ Gifs,200+ Movies Discription,Nightlog
 MC>Images,Gabby's Lounge,Garlique Graphics,Twilight Zone,
 MC>Prizm,Farmer Daughter & Suger Magnolia 05/92

 MS> If Vince doesn't have it, we stock them at $30 + $5 s/h to Canada.
 MS> No extra charge for VISA.

Hi Mike:

Do you known of or have you encountered any problems with such adult
CD-ROM being shipped across the border?



... Don't hit me, Mr. Moderator... I'll go back on topic... I swear!
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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 3290
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/12/93  6:34a
Subj: CD ROM SOFTWARE FOR SALE                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 3291
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 08/13/93  9:04a
Subj: cd rom software for sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3292
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/13/93 12:49p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 AUGUST SPECIA               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                   Still hundreds in stock!
Get the latest Shareware on Night Owl 9 for only $35 Canadian
including all taxes... plus receive Shareware Studio I at
no extra charge when you buy Night Owl and *ANY* other of our
many in-stock titles.

                 CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
                     306-789-4654  Voice
                      306-789-8690  Fax
           6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sask., S4N 4G7
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3293
  To: MARK SMITH                               Date: 08/14/93  1:11a
Subj: FREE CD-ROM                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Looking for a dealership in Australia...??? wanna make some **REAL**
-> bucks...??? Send me your catalog if you are and I will pass it on to
-> the rest of Australia...
   We're currently negotiating with a number of folks in Australia, but
nothing has been settled yet... get me your address or FAX number, and
I'd be glad to send you some info. Our FAX number here is 306-789-8690
and our VOICE number is 306-789-4654.
   Vince
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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3294
  To: CHRIS BOURNE                             Date: 08/13/93  9:46a
Subj: CSS CD Price List                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> For more information or ordering call CSS at 517-263-0017 1pm - 7pm.
-> online from our online shopping mall by calling 517-263-0273 speeds t
->
-> Mastercard/VISA/AMEX/Discover/COD accepted!
-> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
-> 7th Guest                                             60.00
-> Adventures of Willy Beamish                           35.00
-> Aircraft Encyclopedia                                 42.00
-> American Business Phonebook 1                         24.00

I have two questions for you.

1-=>What ar ethe hacker's chronicles?

2-=>Do you have any Cd+G Disks?


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3295
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/13/93  9:47a
Subj: Computer Works                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Computer Works is an economical place to buy your CD-Roms with our
-> competitive pricing.  Download catalog.zip for the latest price list
-> complete with descriptions.  We have questionnaires online for placin
-> credit card and COD orders.
->
-> Computer Works
-> CD-Rom Sales!                                   Jim...
-> [phone] Voice
-> [phone] BBS  14.4k
->
-> --- FreeMail 1.08b
->  * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
->
Do you have any Cd+G Cd's?


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From: SHANE HEDRICK                          Number: 3296
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/14/93 12:00p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



          FOR SALE OR TRADE:

                 Unused SoundBlaster MIDI Kit
                 Microsoft Works for Windows (MM CD)
                 Creative Sounds with Prosonus
                 Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective

          Will consider all offers.

... File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)
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From: SHANE HEDRICK                          Number: 3297
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/14/93 12:02p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



          FOR SALE OR TRADE:

                 Unused SoundBlaster MIDI Kit
                 Microsoft Works for Windows (MM CD)
                 Creative Sounds with Prosonus
                 Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective

          Will consider all offers.

... File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)
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From: PETER DETTELIS                         Number: 3298
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 08/14/93 12:27a
Subj: CDT = CD'S, TRAVEL                      Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No

COMDEX is in Las Vegas (not Dallas) this year, so I hope you'll be there and we
can meet--at the Multimedia CD-ROM section of course.


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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 3299
  To: LESLIE THOMAS                            Date: 08/14/93  1:53p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Leslie,
     I have an MPC compatible CD-ROM drive that I run with my SBPRO.  I also
have 13 CDs that I would like to sell with it.  Please call me at
[phone] or leave a message here if you are interested. Thanks.


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From: RACHEL REPSTAD                         Number: 3300
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 08/13/93  4:24p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

What speed is the cd-rom drive you are selling? What is the lowest price you
would be willing to sell it for? Is it SBPro compatable? Please get back to me.

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 3301
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/12/93 12:18a
Subj: Welcome!                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MC>SF> Thanks for the info
MC>SF>              Sam Figueroa

MC> Your welcome, Sam.  If there is ever anything that you would like to ask me
MC>don't ever hesitate to do so.  Also, if you would like a list of all the CD'
MC>that Computer Works carries, i'd be glad to mail one to you, if you would
MC>leave me your address.  Well, i'll ttyl.
MC>                                           Mark
MC>* SPITFIRE v3.3
MC>--- FreeMail 1.08b
MC> * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
 Mark
    My address is :
        Sam Figueroa
        Sam's Software
        Rt 2 Box 2453-A
        Manchester, TN 37355

                                Thanks for everything,
                                        Sam Figueroa


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 3302
  To: LEN BUSSEY                               Date: 08/12/93 12:23a
Subj: Re: Re:Cd Swap                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LB>SF>Len,
LB>SF>Starvector 208 is a shareware cd with 208 meg of shareware! Its not
LB>SF>all that bad for a small cd!

LB>If you wish I'll trade you SWOTL, Monkey Island, or Loom for the
LB>Starvector 208 CD.

LB>SF>       Do you have anything else to trade!

LB>That's about it.  I just recently got my CD-ROM and don't have too much
LB>in the way of software yet.  I have an encyclopedia, atlases, an
LB>animals CD etc.. but am not interested in parting with these.  I need
LB>the shareware CD for my BBS.  Call me voice 659-9216 if still
LB>interested in trading.  I'll pay shipping.

LB>                                    Len

LB>--- RBBSMail v18.3b7
LB> * Origin: 2010 BBS - Petersburg TN [phone] (1:3622/10.0)
 Len,
        I would call you but could you please call me, because my
        phone bill is too much, at Sam's Software [phone]
   I would like Monkey Island? Do you have the manuals and stuff? Does
   any of it talk or does Loom talk? Which is the best in you
   consideration? How can we ship these?  Is there anyway that we can
   ship like COD, but when yours comes I give him mine to ship it too
   ya? If ya call, we could probably get it all figured out!
                                        Thanks a lot,
                                                Sam Figueroa


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 3303
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 08/12/93 12:34a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JM> I have a hardly used (in new condition) NEC CDR-35 external CD-ROM drive fo
JM>sale. The complete package contains an NEC interface card and cable, all
JM>original manuals, and software drivers.
JM> For the price of $140.00 (negotiable) I will guarantee against DOA and ship
JM>it to your door. If you are intersted, please reply via this echo.



JM>Thanks,   Jerry




JM>--- TBBS v2.1/NM
JM> * Origin: FlatLand bbs Fargo ND, DS-HST(701)-239-6048  (1:288/6)
What are the speeds on this rom drive? Is it MPC compliant?
                                        Thanks,
                                                Sam Figueroa

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 3304
  To: CARL GRAHAM                              Date: 08/12/93 12:36a
Subj: TRADE GAMES FOR REF.                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CG>I have Ultima Underworld (The Stygian Abyss) and Wing Commander II..
CG>All docs and registration are in tact....used once...I am not a game
CG>player... I would like to trade these for a Enclylopedia or some other
CG>interesting reference material on CD Rom....Thanks Carl 904-733-4403.

CG>--- Maximus 2.01wb
CG> * Origin: PayPhone Junction BBS, Jacksonville, Fl. (1:112/6)
Are these on CD?  I have Nautilus CD for trade, that has some good
multimedia files, and it has I think a Time Almanac on it? It has a
version of PC Karaoke and a few other Window things, its also supposed
to be Kodak cd compatible?
                                Thanks,
                                        Sam Figueroa


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From: B.A. CROWELL                           Number: 3305
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/13/93 11:06p
Subj: Drives                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris,
     Do you sell CDROM Drives?  If so do you have one that will handle 6 CDs
at a time and How many $.


                                                        Thanks,
                                                              B.A.
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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 3306
  To: JOHN TRIMBACK                            Date: 08/14/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

John,

How much for 2  4x9 SIMMs?



Thanks


Bill

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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 3307
  To: MICHAEL MULCAHY                          Date: 08/13/93 12:19a
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MM>Send one to Mike Mulcahy
MM>9300 Hamilton Drive
MM>Fairfax, VA 22031

 Hello, Mike.  We'll send you one ASAP.  Thanks for replying.

                                       Mark
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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 3308
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 08/13/93 12:21a
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

VS>Vito A Servideo
VS>2741 ne 24 street
VS>LIghthouse Point, FL  33064

VS>p.s.
VS>do you have any cd+g titiles?

  Hey, Vito.  We'll try to get one to you as soon as we can.  Thanks
 for replying.
                                               Mark

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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 3309
  To: DAVID M. WHITE                           Date: 08/13/93 12:23a
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DMW>I would like to receive your listing:  send to:
DMW>David M. White
DMW>452 N. Bull Run Dr.
DMW>Tucson, Az 85748

 Hello, David.  We'll try to send you a list as soon as possible.
Thanks for replying.
                                       Mark
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From: MIKE BRITT                             Number: 3310
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/12/93 10:12p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 WT> Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to
 WT> work with QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and should be able to
 WT> be moved around by QEMM.  Perplexed beyond belief, maybe I
 WT> need a drink.  Any ideas would help.

     I am running that combination without error. What version of the driver
are you using? You need to use 2.22 I believe.

                                                            Mike

Sphinx EM/v5.0 * Hey! Don't pick up that pho╫»╗Æßë╜├╥τ

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 3311
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/14/93  9:57a
Subj: Re:  Disk                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <08-12-93 01:10> Jim Lambert wrote:

JL>> I think I have a Busty Babes 1.0 also.  Can you tell me how
JL>> I can be sure?  I appreciate it!

No problem, Jim...the label film on the disc says, "Graphic Software"--Dealers
now have bids for $350.00 per each 1.0 disc--
Versions 2.0 and 3.0 do not have these large font words on the disc film--If
you have one of these, hold onto it--

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 3312
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/14/93  9:58a
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <08-13-93 16:25> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> A while back, you gave me some prelim. data on a soon-to-be-released
BJ>> CD that had reviews of X-rated movies on it by Jim Holliday.

Have not heard anymore on this--Don't speak to them often but I will make a
point on asking them about an update ! So how did you like the "SHowoff"
interface on BB--You never reviewed it like you said you would :)

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 3313
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/14/93 10:02a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Tony Davis <08-12-93 23:26> Mike Shannon wrote:

MS>> Could you be a little more specific?  What material on your BBS was
MS>> deemed "obscene" by the authorities.

I have the article here--The agents bought "XXX Extreme" in JUne and returned
back and bought "Ecstasy"--The disc's went before a judge who declared them
obscene which gave the authorities the right to do a search and seize of his
premises-he is from Oklahoma--

The obscenity was the penetration--Okie is a tough State for porn anyways--

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3314
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/14/93  9:40a
Subj: A FEW CHESTNUTS LEFT!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> VS>Send me Clipart Goliath
-> VS>Colossal Cookbook
-> VS>Out solar system
->
-> Vito,
->
-> Be glad to, but first I need to confirm by phone.  Either give me a c
-> @ 509-457-2892, or leave your # so I can contact you.
->
-> Thanks,
-> .\\ike
->
-> ---
->  * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Geraldo!
->
-> --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
->  * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:
->
 YOu could call me at (305)4279002..that's my work, and I'm always there

I tried calling you today(saturday)


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3315
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/14/93  9:42a
Subj: Re: RED HOT                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->  >> HOT PIX 5
->
-> Newest in the X-Rated Hot Pix seriers, with nearly 600 megs of
-> adult images and it's bbs ready.
->
->  >> PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK
->
-> A large assortment of various source codes, text files, routines and
-> more and it to is BBS ready.
->
->  >> AMATEUR MODELS
->
-> New Release from the authors of "Monster Disk 2". This is an R-Rated
-> adult cd, with good scans.
->
-> >>    Tell me more about these discs, please??
->
-> Hope this helps....if not...call us and we'll be happy to help you
-> further.
->
-> Boris Osadciw
->
-> ... Press F1 to Reboot
-> --- FMail 0.96Γ
->  * Origin: Silver Xpress Mail System (1:157/46)
->
do you sell any cd+g titles?


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 3316
  To: ALEX MAHAN                               Date: 08/14/93 12:38a
Subj: Nightowl                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Alex!

Tuesday August 03 1993, Alex Mahan writes to All:

 AM> Has anybody seen nightowl 8 or 9 going cheap? I need a good cd-rom with
 AM> everthing on it (actually my dad does) but I havent seen them for iunder
 AM> $30. Thanks for any input, Alex

Night Owl v9.0  $29
Night Owl v8.0  $25
Get Both for    $49

CD-ROM International
[phone]  (Orders)
[phone]  (General BS line)
[phone]  (BBS/Fax)


... Grow your own dope... plant a liberal!

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From: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                       Number: 3317
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 08/13/93 12:45a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JM>  I have a hardly used (in new condition) NEC CDR-35 external CD-ROM
JM> drive
JM>
JM> Thanks,   Jerry
JM>

Is that a SCSI drive, and is it complete?

Thanks!

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 3318
  To: WYATT WOLFE                              Date: 08/14/93 10:29a
Subj: RE: Mitsumi                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>      I do not know why you are having a problem with qemm... I have ran
>every version of Qemm since 5.0 was out... I now run 7.0.... I also run two
>Mitsumi
>LU002S drives... Qemm loads both device drivers high and the MSCDEX high
>also... both drives are accessable... and have never had any problems... May

I can't get QEMM to work either,but it's only since I installed my Trident
SVGA in Windows,now it says that it can't load the video driver at address
B000 ,yet I tried to exclude that address in QEMM and it didn't work.Do you
know of a way to make Windows use a different address for the Video
Driver.When I had the 16 color driver,there wasn't a conflict,so I presume
this card is using ALOT more memory and interfering with the HMA in QEMM,but
I would like to find a way to get them to work together.
 Hope you can help,

                     Thanks,

                                       Diana

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From: DONALD MACKAY                          Number: 3319
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 08/14/93 12:00a
Subj: Os/2 Disk?                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BF>Selectware has a "1000+ OS/2 Applications" demo disk available - I THINK it
BF>free if you call them and ask for it....

Do you have an address or telephone number for those folks Brice?
___
 X SLMR 2.1a X Unable to locate Coffee -- Operator Halted!

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3320
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/14/93  9:47a
Subj:   Disk                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JL> Hi Lee.  I think I have a Busty Babes 1.0 also.  Can you tell me
 JL> can be sure?  I appreciate it!


I'm sure Lee wil answer, too, Jim - the *easiest* way to tell is to look
for two directories of text files called "STORY1" and "STORY2".  If
they're *MISSING*, you've got a Rel. #1 !!
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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 3321
  To: JOHN TRIMBACK                            Date: 08/14/93  5:40p
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>hey mike, i have 340 meg scsi2 (ibm) harddrive (almost brand new),
>1,2,4 meg simms and microsoft excel 4.0 & powerpoint v3.0 for Mac i
>can trade or maybe something else to get 2 internal cd rom
>drives..let me know...

Sorry, but I have all the hardware (and then some) that I can use in two
machines.


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 3322
  To: FREDDY FAVELA                            Date: 08/14/93  5:41p
Subj: Re: Toshiba Cd-Rom                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>               Michael if the TOSHIBA XM-3201 INTERNAL CD can run
>                on a 286 sx16mhz with 1 mg ram I'm interested!!
>               and if it cant please let me now what I need!

It will work as long as you have a SCSI controller.

205-837-5053


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 3323
  To: JASON PAUL                               Date: 08/14/93  5:41p
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>MK>SCSI CDROMs For Sale:
>
>MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
>MK>Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00
>
>MK>Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac.
>
>My drive from you works great on my amiga.  I see that you say that
>it works great on a mac.  I still haven't located the drivers to
>run it. Have you sold drives to mac users?  If so do you know where
>I can get the drivers or can you give me the names of the mac users
>that have bought these drives from you?  Thanks!

My local Mac Dealer has the scsi drivers on the shelf for $50.00.

205-837-5053


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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 3324
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/14/93  6:10p
Subj: scsi cdrom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



SCSI CDROMs For Sale:

Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00

Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac.  Features 50 Pin True SCSI,
300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and 64k Buffer.
Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty

205-837-5053 anytime.




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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 3325
  To: GARY HOFFERMAN                           Date: 08/14/93  8:17p
Subj: Dealers wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (13 Aug 93) Gary Hofferman wrote to All...

 GH> Hello to All,
 GH>
 GH> We are looking for resellers and system builders who would be
 GH> interested in marketing/bundling CD ROM Software. We can supply all of
 GH> the most popular titles at very competitive and flexible pricing.
 GH>
 GH> If you would be intersted, please contact me at CONSOLIDATED CD ROM:
 GH> 515 67th Avenue Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19126 USA +1.215.276.3657
 GH> voice or +1.215.276.3854 fax 24hrs.
 GH>

    We would be intersted in bundling your CD-ROM Software. Our
    specialty is storage devices, and anything related.

            The Storage Specialists
            9400 W. 51st Avenue
            Arvada, CO 80002

            1.303.940.1012
            Paul Sedillo
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From: ART BREAULT                            Number: 3326
  To: RON MITCHELL                             Date: 08/14/93 11:00p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Are you accessing the cd rom through a dma channel or a software
actuation. My cd rom had to go to software access due to the fact I could
not convince the computer to accept E drive when I used dma access. No
matter what I did it thought D. This conflicted with a hard drive. I am
using extention 2.3. I software actuation then the scsi interface should
not be a problem. I believe though that I to was told that cd roms were
interface sensitive.


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From: DAVID NAFFIS                           Number: 3327
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/15/93 12:36a
Subj: Nightowl                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

       I am interested in buying night owl 9 and the mystery cd. Can you give
me some more info on it and how/where to send my money.

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From: DAVID NAFFIS                           Number: 3328
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/15/93 12:38a
Subj: CD'S ON SALE!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am also intrested in shareware overload. It seems you have a lot of good
deals. Can you send me a list of cd's?

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From: DAVID NAFFIS                           Number: 3329
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/15/93 12:56a
Subj: Sound Sample CD-ROM Disc                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

       You should get Creative Sounds from creative labs. It has hundreds of
.WAV, .MOD, and more; both songs and sound effects.

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From: THOM JENNINGS                          Number: 3330
  To: SHANE HEDRICK                            Date: 08/14/93  9:41p
Subj: Microsoft Office                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*SH> Anyone interested in a copy of Microsoft Office on CD?  Would like to t*
*SH> for                                                                    *
*SH> Kings Quest 6 or 7th Guest + a couple of shareware CD's.  Or make an of*
*****************************************************************************

I don't have either you are looking for but can buy 7th Guest and
complete a deal.  Is the sale of your CD complete with license?  Call
me at [phone] M-F 0730-1630.  If I'm not in leave me a number
to call you back at and I'll call you that evening.
Thom
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From: THOM JENNINGS                          Number: 3331
  To: FRITZ WILSON                             Date: 08/14/93  9:44p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*FW> DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.sys /r:2 \dev\mtmcdd.sys /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /S:3 /*
*FW> /M:19 /T:3 /I:2                                                        *
*******************************^^^^******************************************

Watch out for this portion of the command line.  His upper memory
region may be a 1 or 3 depending on the computer config.  Best to let
QEMM's OPTIMIZE do the job.
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From: BRETT SEAL                             Number: 3332
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/15/93 11:11a
Subj: CD_ROM Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey ya'll! I am looking for a good, yet somewhat inexpensive EXTERNAL CD-ROM
Drive for a Compaq 486 system. If anyone has any good prices or knows where I
can get one just write me, or send me FidoNet 123/52. Thanks-
Brett A. Seal


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From: PHILLIP GOSNELL                        Number: 3333
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/13/93 11:38p
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I WOULD LIKE A CATALOG.
PLEASE SEND TO
PHILLIP GOSNELL
4431 NOHL CREST DR
FLOWERY BRANCH,  GA 30542

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From: JEFF BRIELMAIER                        Number: 3334
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/13/93  1:13p
Subj: MITSUMI AND QEMM                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WT>Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work with QEMM.
WT>The driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved around by QEMM.
WT>Perplexed beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would help.

What version of Mitsumi driver do you have?  According to Quarterdesk
Support,
version 2.10 would lock up if QEMM attempted to load it into upper memory.
There is a Version 2.10a (which is on their support BBS, 310-314-3227) that
can be loaded high.  I have that version (I d/l'd from their BBS), but I've
never bothered to re-optimize the setup.

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 3335
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 08/14/93  7:28p
Subj: Gene Pool?                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     Nah, the shallow end of the Gene C. Breedlove Lake...

     Where the time capsule is buried.

     Too bad they didn't have CDs back in those days.

     Imagine fan publishing on CDs!

     Here I am trying to manage on floppies with DART [see Tom Easton's book
columns in alternate issues of ANALOG].

     Read "Zombies of the Gene Pool" by Sharyn McCrumb, in paperback.

     *:o)


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From: LESLIE THOMAS                          Number: 3336
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/14/93  7:42a
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AJ>LT>I am interested in buying  a used CD Rom that is comptatible with u
AJ>LT>the SBPro as a controller.  Anyone have one they are interested in
AJ>LT>with?
AJ>
AJ>I have one ... and even more...it's the tope of the line external mode
AJ>I can let it go for $265.00.  Let me know soon, Either way!


As I said, I am interested in a model that would be controllable through
the port on the SB Pro...I need an internal model.  Thank you for the
repsone though.

    WinQwk 2.0 a#0


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From: BRIAN MILLER                           Number: 3337
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/13/93  5:32p
Subj: Walnut Creek Releases                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> We now have Giga Games in stock!..

How much for this cd?


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From: JEFF COCHRAN                           Number: 3338
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/15/93  1:43p
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >  ********** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS **********

Kinda cuts its market...


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From: BUNNY MCELWEE                          Number: 3339
  To: PAUL SEDILLO                             Date: 08/15/93 11:43a
Subj: Distributors wanted???                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    Hi I saw a message that you were looking for distributors, but I
can't seem to find the original...SO, anyways, here's my address and
all as I am interested in what you have to offer...Thanks and hope to
hear from you soon.

DC Computing
P.O. Box 1026
Ladson, S.C.  29456

BBS #'s 1-803-873-5797
              871-2261
              851-7701
FIDO # 1:372/57

Thanks again...


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From: THOMAS KINNEN                          Number: 3340
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/15/93 10:43a
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WT-> Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work with QEMM.
WT-> The driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved around by QEMM.  Perple
WT-> beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would help.

See if you have driver Version 2.10a or higher.  The earlier versions
had problems with QEMM's LOADHI.SYS.


                        Tom


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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 3341
  To: DON HOOKER                               Date: 08/15/93  8:42a
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Hi Danny, I saw that you had a Grolier's Encyclopedia for
 > $20. If the
 > other guy doesn't want it, I'll take it your price and pay

Sorry Don but it is already sold....

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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 3342
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/14/93  8:36p
Subj: adult cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

with all the "Legal" problems running around these days with "adult" material
on a BBS, the question is:
       Which ADULT CDs are 100% hassle free for putting on a BBS??  It is
probly a two part answer, one with no copyright worries, the other is just
having adult material on your bbs depending on where you are located could
cause you enough problems as it is.
      What SWIMSUIT CDs are legal for posting on a bbs??
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From: TROY JOHNSON                           Number: 3343
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/15/93  9:57a
Subj: Flatbed Scanner                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a Epson GS-600 (ES-600C), color flatbed scanner for sale.

It is about three months old, I am selling it because someone donated me
a HPIIC and no longer need it for the board!

I will let it go for best offer over $550.00 comes with the parrallel
interface card and all docs and cables..

Call me voice at 702-459-8862 after 4P.M. P.S.T. for more details

Troy Johnson

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3344
  To: HARRY WHEAT                              Date: 08/13/93  1:00p
Subj: 6 disk cd-rom changer                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HW>I am looking for a BBS program that will run a 6 disk Cd-rom changer on a
  >BBS. I have looked all over and can't find anything. If anyone knows
  >of anything please leave me a message.    Thank's

Hi Harry.  For Spitfire BBSes, SF-Rom does it very well.  For other
BBSes that use door.sys, EZ-Rom is the same thing.  EZROM120.ZIP or
SFROM120.ZIP are both available for download on the first call at
Computer Works.  I am running the Pioneer 604X, and know someone who
runs three 600's along with at least three single drives on his BBS.
If you have more than one node and a second person tries to access the
drive while it is already in use, they will get a busy signal.  Since it
copies files to be downloaded to the hard drive, the CD changer does not
stay busy very long.  It is a very nice program.

                                                        Jim...

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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 3345
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/13/93  5:46p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike, just wanted to say my CD's arrived today. It's a pleasure doing business
with you. Prompt service and great prices. Thanks!

... Move your vowels every day or you'll get consonated
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 3346
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 08/14/93  7:30a
Subj: cd rom software for sale                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sorry BUBBA, its been sold

                       Mark

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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 3347
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/14/93  6:15p
Subj: Southern Beauties                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          **********  Graphical Images of Florida, Inc. **********
             Announces The NEW RELEASE of   "Southern Beauties"
                A FULLY COMMERCIAL - FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC

675 Megs-OVER 65 Top Models-1000 GIFs-1024x768x256 From Original 35mm Slides
300 Megs of the Best Images in 24 bit True Color. Installs Quickly & Easily-
Menu Driven - User Friendly - Popup Help Menus - Mouse Support - Keyword
Search - Sound Blaster Front Loader - Multiple Directory Slide Show
*************** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS ***************

To Order Contact: Faye Sharp at Tradeshows Inc. 317-651-9848 or 317-651-1223

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3348
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/15/93  8:30a
Subj:  BUSTY BABES                            Refer: NONE
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 LN> The obscenity was the penetration--Okie is a tough State for por
 LN> anyways--


Thanks for the data, Lee. There's a saying here in The Lone Star State
that the only reason we don't fall into the Gulf of Mexico is because
Oklahoma sucks.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3349
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/15/93  8:05a
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Au contraire! Two days after I got BBR3 I posted a three page review rite
cheer on this here echo. I still have a hardcopy of it; if you like I'll mail
you one.

I didn't talk too much about the GIFs but I went into quite a monologue about
SHOWOFF. Basically I said it represented the state-of-the-practice if not the
state-of-the-art in GUI front ends for CDs. I only cited a few negatives such
as the reduced images being quite "grainy", etc. and I said to you personally
at the end of the review that I hoped all your future releases would include
SHOWOFF as their user interface.

Now you've got me concerned that the BBS I use had a glitch and didn't get the
mail out that particular time.

Does ANYONE recall reading my review of Busty Babes Release 3.0?? If not, I'll
recreate it and re-post.

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From: TONY MILLER                            Number: 3350
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/15/93  6:59p
Subj: CD-ROM TO BUY                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I Am look ing for an external cd-rom with a 16 bit sound card if you have one
for sale or trade lets talk [phone] ASK FOR TONY


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From: MARK DEWAR                             Number: 3351
  To: TOYSHOP                                  Date: 08/13/93  6:11p
Subj: ADD                                     Refer: NONE
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From: MICHAEL TURNER                         Number: 3352
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/14/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD                            Refer: NONE
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On Thu 12-Aug-1993  7:13a, Ismail Arslangiray babbled:
IA> Hi,
IA> Also within two weeks we are publishing an Amiga disk in ISO-9660 format
IA> for BBS Systems. TTYL

I thought that ISO-9600 was the standard, not ISO-9660? Or did I write it down
incorrectly? :)

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From: ROB O'DELL                             Number: 3353
  To: JOHN TRIMBACK                            Date: 08/15/93  1:02a
Subj: Re: NEC CDR-73/83                       Refer: NONE
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-> Hey rob...i have a (almost new) 340meg IBM scsi drive i could trade,
-> 2 , 4meg simms, Microsoft Powerpoint 3.0 and Microsoft Excel v4.0 for
-> maybe some other stuff to trade for 2 internals..leave mail if intere

What's the specs on the 340 meg SCSI?

Dimensions?
SCSI or SCSI-2?
Speed?
Make and model?

I'm interested in this drive, I could trade an internal CD-ROM unit for
it.  Let me know the specs.

Rob


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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 3354
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/15/93  1:28p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Vito Servideo <=-

 BO> Yes, version 1.0 volume 3.0 ! Interested, give us a call at the above
 BO> number and we'll be happy to help you out.

How much is shipping and handling?


Steve

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From: MIKE MARKOV                            Number: 3355
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/13/93  4:25p
Subj: R.e.m.                                  Refer: NONE
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to all r.e.m. fans.. there's 3 new cd singles for 'everybody hurts' the first
has and unreleased instrumental called 'mandolin strum' the 2nd has "mandolin"
& 'belong (Live 4/92)' & 'orange crush (live 11/89)', the 3rd has 'star me
kitten (demo)', 'losing my religion (live 4/92)' & 'organ song'
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From: JEREMY NINO                            Number: 3356
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/14/93  1:15a
Subj: CDD163 Interface card                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for an interface card to an external Magnavox, CD-ROm, Model
CDD-163.  If you have one, PLEASE call me at 1-903-473-2676.
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From: JEREMY NINO                            Number: 3357
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/14/93  1:18a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
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Alright!  Gittem BUB!!!
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From: JEREMY NINO                            Number: 3358
  To: DAVID SEITZ                              Date: 08/14/93  1:21a
Subj: WHOLESALING & RETAILING                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ME TOO!  My Adress is:
                      Rt. 3, Box 419B
                      Emory, TX. 75440-9803
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3359
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/15/93 11:21p
Subj: Disk                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > In a message to Lee Noga <08-12-93 01:10> Jim Lambert
 > wrote:

 > JL>> I think I have a Busty Babes 1.0 also.  Can you tell me how
 > JL>> I can be sure?  I appreciate it!

 > No problem, Jim...the label film on the disc says,
 > "Graphic Software"--Dealers now have bids for $350.00
 > per each 1.0 disc--
 > Versions 2.0 and 3.0 do not have these large font
 > words on the disc film--If you have one of these, hold
 > onto it--
I have Busty Babes 1.0 where can I sell it for that price?
Sure would like to know! I would even sell it for less!
                    Thanks Pat Rickerson
                          512-939-7095
                          Corpus Christi Texas

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3360
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/15/93 11:29p
Subj: Busty babes, before 3                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Very interesting, Jerry! I don't frequent hamfests
 > mainly cuz they're always on the other side of town -
 > and in Houston that can easily be 50 miles away. I
 > have a copy of the "original" BB, but when I was
 > looking hard for one, many others said they were
 > interested as well. Maybe the hamfest CD sellers
 > should get themselves on to this here echo (:>

Have Busty #1, know any one that wants to buy it?
                     Pat Rickerson
                          512-939-7095

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From: KIRK REEVES                            Number: 3361
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/13/93 11:19p
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 AJ> I have one ... and even more...it's the tope of the line external model.
 AJ> I can let it go for $265.00.  Let me know soon, Either way!

I am interested.  Can you tell me what the access time is and track seek?

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From: PETE CRESSWELL                         Number: 3362
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/14/93  3:45p
Subj: MULTI VS SINGLE PLAYERS                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Here are a few beginner's questions that I'd like to throw out for comment.

1)  If a six-platter changer costs $750 and single-platter players can be had
for $150 each ( 6 * 150 = $900) couldn't one argue for six standalone players
because of:

- Redundant backup: in one goes south you still have five working.
- No waiting: as long as 2 callers are accessing different platters,
  there's no mutual exclusion.
- Faster access: it's gotta take *some* time to swap to another platter even
 if nobody else is using the one currently mounted.

2)  I've heard it said that transfer speed is moot and to get the slowest
(cheapest...) drives available.

Seems to me that if downloads are front-ended by copies to a hard drive, that
speed is still relevant insofar as it speeds the copy step.

3)  I've also heard it said that a nanny machine (i.e. a server) is needed for
multiple CDRoms on a multi-line BB because CDRom drives use DMA interrupts and
tie the rest of the system up too much.

If I have a SCSI card that doesn't use DMA interrupts, does that reduce or
eliminate the need for a server machine?

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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 3363
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/14/93  7:06p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   There is a new driver out for Mitsumi which will allow qemm to load the
driver high.  If you can not find it you can find it at the bulletin board
listed below!   later.

Lee Christopher Wise
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From: ISRAEL GOMBERG                         Number: 3364
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 08/15/93  2:08p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I've been known to write in John W. Campbell, jr. on occasion....

Call me ignorant, but who is J. Cambell Jr.?




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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 3365
  To: BRETT PARKER                             Date: 08/15/93  3:20p
Subj: Re: CD's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BP> I had the same problem with my first Mitsumi, the one
 BP> with the slower access time and the 8-bit controller.

That's the one I have.  The Mitsumi tech people seem to think that it's a
software problem.  The dealer is without a clue unless I bring him my BBS
machine(which at this time I'm not going to do, unless he can guarantee me 2
hour service so my hub won't have to hold my mail).

 BP> It happened with other disks as well as Shareware
 BP> Studio, but that was usually the one in because of the
 BP> BBS. I never did figure it out, I just bought one of
 BP> the newer drives and have had no problems since.

That might be my move too.  Now the newer, faster, 16-bit drives are the same
price I paid for my slow 8-bit drive(only three months ago, too). :(

The good side is I still have 9 monmths of warranty left, so I can pick a time
convienent to me to get it worked on.  Probably buy a 16-bit drive and throw
this 8-bit through someones window.

BTW, the dealer's 16-bit Mitsumi read the CDs with no problem.

                                   Ron

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3366
  To: MARK SMITH                               Date: 08/15/93  8:26p
Subj: Aussie Needs help...                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> And of course the best places to buy CD's long
 MS> distance..<grin> Anyone want to start a branch in
 MS> Australia...???<grin>

 MS> Thanks for your help!

We have pretty good prices and would be glad to work with you on selling CDs in
Australia.  Do you have a fax?

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3367
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 08/15/93  8:35p
Subj: Prices                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MW> I need price on Night Owl Bussines & PC-Sig12..
 MW> Thanks..

We sell them for 22.95 and 24.95 normally.  Will let you have the Night Owl
Business for $16.  Call 615-339-0235 24 hours to order.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3368
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/15/93  8:42p
Subj: low low cdrom prices                    Refer: NONE
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     ShareWare (** BBS Ready)             Miscellaneous (cont.)

AB20 Amiga CD-Rom.............14.50 Clip Art Heaven...............25.95
America's Premier 1993 Sharw..24.95 Coates Art Review.............44.95
Aminet Amiga............**....14.50 College Handbook (1992).......18.95
C Users Group Library.........29.50 Color Magic Clip Art..........27.50
California Collection...**....16.95 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00
CD Powerbox.............**....19.95 Complete Bookshop.............13.00
Fred Fish On-Line(Amiga)**....49.95 Composer Quest................36.95
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware.....14.50 Compton's Interactive Encylop.97.95
Giga Games..............**....28.95 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....68.95
Gigabyte Gold...........**....22.50 Conan.........................32.95
Ham Radio (Shareware).........13.00 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50
Libris Britannica.......**....41.95 Cookbook Heaven...............19.95
Lion Share..............**....23.95 Crossword Cracker.............23.95
Magnum Sight & Sound....**....28.95 DAC Accounting Bonus Pk v4.4.154.95
Megarom 1...............**....19.95 DAC Accounting for DOS v4.4...99.95
Megarom 2...............**....23 95 DAC Instant Accountng-DOS/WIN.39.95
Monster Disc (2 Cds-92).**....38.50 DAC Instant Rolodex for WIN3..39.95
Monster Media '93.......**....31.95 DAC Payroll for DOS v4.4......99.95
NightOwl 5.0............**....15.95 DAC Rolodex Live v2.0.........39.95
Nightowl 6.0............**....22.95 Danger Hot Stuff 1............18.95
Nightowl 7.0............**....22.95 Danger Hot Stuff 2............24.95
Nightowl 8.0............**....25.00 DeathStar Arcade Battles......13.00
Nightowl 9.0............**....25.00 Deep Voyage...................34.95
Nightowl Bus. Applications....22.95 Desert Storm..................34.95
Original Shareware 1992.**....16.95 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50
OS/2 Archives (Hobbes)........14.50 Dictionaries & Languages......13.00
PC Sig H & B Collection.......29.95 Dictionary of Living World....99.95
PC Sig #10..............**....22.95 Dinosaur Adventure MPC........33.95
PC Sig #11..............**....24.95 Dinosaurs MPC.................54.95
PC Sig #12..............**....24.95 Doctors Book of Home Remedies.36.95
PC Sig #9...............**....17.95 Dune..........................46.95
Phoenix v3.0............**....14.95 Education Master or Business..19.95
Pier Shareware #1.......**....26.95 Electronic Cookbook...........31.95
Powerpak Gold...........**....22.95 Elec. Home Libr.(250 books)...34.95
SCI-FI (Pics,Sound).....**....26.95 Encyclopedia of Clip Art......24.95
SDN 1...................**....19.95 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00
Shrw Extravaganza(4 cds)**....42.95 Essential Home/Bus Collection.18.95
Shareware 1993..........**....19.95 European Monarchs.............48.95
ShareWare Overload............13.00 Executive Factomatic..........36.95
Shareware Studio #1.....**....20.95 Family Doctor.................24.95
Shareware Studio #2(NEW)**....23.95 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......27.95
Shareware Tiger.........**....24.95 Fontmaster #1-18.95....or #2..27.95
Simtel 20 (Gov't Sharw).**....14.50 Fonts #1......................27.95
So Much Shareware #1....**....19.95 Full Bloom....................36.95
SO Much Shareware #2....**....24.95 Future Wars...................48.95
Software Vault #1.......**....22.95 Game Arena....................13.95
Software Vault #2.(NEW).**....23.95 GameMaster (Over 500 Games)...19.45
Sound Sensations..............13.00 Games 1993................**..24.50
Source Code (Unix/Dos)........20.00 Gifs Galore...................14.50
Technotools (Programmers).....13.00 Global Explorer (Delorme).....91.95
Top 2000 Shareware............23.50 Golden Immortal...............24.95
Up All Night............**....18.95 Gov't Giveaways-Entreprenuers.47.95
Winbox (CD).............**....25.95 Great Cities of World 1 or 2..24.95
Window Master.................19.45 Great Wonders of the World....42.95
Windoware.....................13.00 Greatest Books Collection.....44.95
Windows 1993............**....24.95 Grolier Ill. Encyl. v2 (STW)..34.95
Windows - CICA..........**....14.50 Grolier Ill. Encyl. v5 MPC....47.95
X11R5/GNU CDRom...............24.95 Grolier's Encyl. w/Ref Libr..229.95
                                    Guiness Disc of Records (92)..24.95
          Miscellaneous             Guy Spy.......................43.95
                                    Hacker Chronicles.............25.95
1001 Utilities................12.95 HamWare 1993..................27.95
20th Century Almanac..........59.95 Hospitality Index.............39.95
7th Guest.....................47.95 House of Games................22.95
Adventures of Willy Beamish...24.95 Inter. Business/Economc Atlas.24.45
Aesops Fables.................29.95 Island Designs................36.95
Aircraft Encyclopedia.........35.95 Jazz, Multimedia History......54.95
Amanda Stories................44.95 Jets & Props..................31.95
Amer.Bus.Fone Book #1..$17 #2.27.95 Jokes & Pranks................13.95
Anecdotes.....................26.95 Jones in the Fast Lane........19.00
Animals SD Zoo DOS-21.95..MPC-25.95 Just Grandma & Me.............41.95
Arthur's Teacher Trouble......27.95 Kathy Smith-Fat Burning Systm.54.95
Audobon Mammals or Birds......23.95 Key Clipmaster Pro............32.95
Barney Bear Goes to School....19.95 Key Fonts Pro.................32.95
Barney Bear Goes to Space.....21.95 Key Home Designer.............32.95
Barron's Book Notes...........39.95 Kids Zoo-Baby Animal Adv......36.95
BattleChess Enhanced..........31.95 King James Bible..............27.95
BattleChess MPC...............29.95 Kings Quest 5.................19.00
Beauty & the Beast (Win3).....28.95 Languages of the World........47.95
Bible Library (9 Bibles+).....28.50 Learning Adventure............13.00
Bibles & Religion.............13.00 Legend of Kyrandia............54.95
Brittanica Family Choice......24.95 Library of the Future 1.......47.95
Brittanica Select.............24.95 ***********************************
Business Assistant............13.00 * PCJ - 8/15/93 - A 1 Stop Dealer *
Cameron's Fine Art Catalog....49.95 * We meet all legit / noncloseout *
Carmen San Diego World Delux..27.95 * prices in this echo. No hidden  *
CD Cad v3.7 with manual.......31.95 * charges for credit cards. Call  *
CD Game Pack 1................18.95 *  our BBS for our adult title    *
Cd Game Pack 2................22.95 *  list and download adult.zip.   *
ChessMaster 3000 MPC..........24.95 ***********************************
Christmas Carol...............28.95     All Lines Operate 24 Hours
Cinnemania....................57.95    Orders/Inquiry - 615-339-0235
Classic Collection (4 Pak)....51.95    Orders Only    - 800-547-7817
Clip Art Galore..........**...27.50    Fax            - 615-479-1047
Clip Art Goliath..............13.00    BBS (14400)    - 615-479-1047

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3369
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/15/93  8:43p
Subj: low low cdrom prices                    Refer: NONE
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      Miscellaneous (cont.)              Miscellaneous (cont.)

Lifestyles-R & F Cookbook.....37.95 Storybook Weaver..............39.95
Loom..........................19.95 StoryTime 1 or 2..............24.95
Lord of the Rings.............54.95 Street Atlas USA (Windows)....85.95
Lovely Ladies.................27.95 Super Munchers................39.95
MacMillan Dict for Children...29.95 Super/Number Bundle...........39.95
Magazine Rack.................22.95 Swimwear 1993.............**..28.95
Manhole.......................35.95 Swimwear & More (SVGA)........28.95
Mantis........................29.95 Talking Jungle or Classc.Tale.35.95
Mario is Missing/World Atlas..26.95 Talking Schoolhouse...........35.95
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...24.95 Tempra/Kodak Photo CD Softw...27.50
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typng v2.49.95 The Complete Twain............31.95
Mayo Clinic...................26.95 The Grammy Awards.............36.95
Mega Clip Art.................28.50 The Holy Bible................31.95
Mega Movie Guide..............42.95 The Pill Book.................36.95
Microsoft Bookshelf...........56.95 Time Almanac 1990.............16.95
Microsoft Music Instruments...57.95 Time Almanac 1991.............23.95
Microsoft Works...............39.95 TimeTable of Art/Entertainmnt.27.95
Midi Music Shop...............27.95 TimeTable of Business/Politic.27.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.95 TimeTable of History/Science..21.95
Multimedia Tutor..............24.95 Too Many TypeFonts (Laser)....13.00
Monarch Notes.................53.95 ToolWorks Reference Library...19.95
Monkey Island (Secrets of)....24.95 Total Baseball Encyclopedia...26.95
Mother Earth..................27.95 Travel in Europe..............28.95
Mother of All Clipart (23000).22.95 True Crime Stories............36.95
My Advanced Label Designer....42.95 Trump Castle-5 casino games...28.95
My Backup.....................19.95 Ultima I - VI.................35.95
My Label Designer Bundle......42.95 Ultima Underworld 1 & 2.......59.95
National MM Parks Guide.......24.95 USA Today.....................36.95
Nat. Geographic MPC Mammals...24.95 USA Wars-Civil War............36.95
Nautilus Subscription Kit.....28.95 USA Wars-Korea................44.95
North American Fax Book.......38.95 USA Wars-Vietnam..............44.95
North American Indians........46.95 USA Wars-World War II.........44.95
Number Munchers...............28.95 U.S. Atlas MPC................26.95
Officers Bookcase.............39.95 U.S. Atlas / Automap..........28.95
Oregon Trail Dlx Vga..........35.95 U.S. Civics...................44.95
Oregon Trail..................39.95 U.S. History..................27.95
Our House (Family Circus).....42.95 U.S. Presidents...............35.95
Our Solar System(Photos,Data).13.00 U.S./World Atlas..............23.95
PC Gameroom...................26.95 VGA Spectrum #1...............14.95
PC Globe 5.0..................49.95 VGA Spectrum #2...............21.95
PC Sig Games..................23.95 Visions of Saturn.............24.95
Pentaminoes...................32.95 Wild Places or World View.....23.95
Peter Rabbit..................24.95 Wing Commander 2 Deluxe.......57.50
Peter & the Wolf (Win3).......26.45 Wing Commander 2/UUnderWrld...59.95
Pharmicist Guide to Drugs.....26.95 Wing Commander/Secret Missn...34.50
Photos to Remember............34.95 Wing Commander/Ultima 6.......24.95
Pinacotheca MPC...............24.95 Wizard........................19.95
Pixel Garden..................44.95 Women of Venus (Swimsuits)....27.95
Plant Doctor..................36.95 Word Munchers.................28.95
Play w/Lang-Englh/Frenc/Span..49.95 World Atlas MPC...............26.95
Precision Mapping.............83.95 World Atlas...................25.95
Prophone Business 1993........28.95 World Fact Book (CIA).........19.95
Prophone (3 CD Set)...........49.95 World of Flight or Trains.....33.95
Prophone (7 CD set)..........114.95 World Tour (CIA)..............23.95
Publique or Fresh Arte........35.95 World Traveler................13.00
Publish It v2.0 (w/Manual)....24.95 Wrath of the Demon............28.50
Publishers Dream Disc.........37.95
Publishers Paradise...........32.95   Drives/Sound/Software/Speakers
Putt Putt Joins Parade........49.95
P.C. Medic (Fix your PC)......29.50 CD Caddies (Sony Compatible)..4.95
QRZ Ham Radio.................14.95 Chinon 435 Int SCSI + CDs...349.95
Readers Library (2000 works)..28.95 Gravis Ultrasound 16bit.....139.95
Reference Library.............27.45 Koss Headphones..............14.95
Return to the Moon............34.95 Koss Hard Drivers Speakers...32.95
Roger Ebert Movie Companion...41.95 Koss Amplfd Spkrs w/Eqlizer..54.95
Sales Manager's Factomatic....36.95 Labtec Amplified Mini Spkrs..29.95
Schumachers Prague Cookbook...44.95 Labtec Amplifd Stereo Spkrs..44.95
Sci-Fi (Pics/Sound/Files).**..27.95 Mitsumi 350ms w/Int. Kit....195.00
Seals of US Gov't.............44.95 Pioneer 600A (Bare).........829.00
Secret Island Dr. Quandry.....39.95 Pioneer 600A with Kit.......929.00
Secret Weapons of LuftWaffe...25.95 Pioneer 604X (Bare)........1229.00
Secrets-Exec Success Stories..36.95 Pioneer 604X with Kit......1329.00
Seventh Bun...................47.95 Sysdos-Parallel port drive..299.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.95 Texel DM3024 Int SCSI.......389.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...54.95 Toshiba 3401 Int SCSI.......455.00
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...54.95 Windows 3.1 (3-1/2" Floppy)..39.95
Sherlock or Shakespeare.......16.95 Windows 3.1 (5-1/4" Floppy)..37.95
Sights & Sounds...............24.95 Znix Cordless Mouse/Win 3.1..59.95
Snap Dragon...................39.95 Znix Serial Super Mouse......24.95
Snapdragon....................39.95
So Much Screenware (Gifs).**..27.95 ***********************************
Softw Jukebox-All Amer Sports.42.95 * PCJ - 8/15/93 - A 1 Stop Dealer *
Soundblaster MOD Files........24.95 * We meet all legit / noncloseout *
Sound Effects Library.........19.95 * prices in this echo. No hidden  *
Sound Works (Software)........18.95 * charges for credit cards. Call  *
SoundWav......................24.95 *  our BBS for our adult title    *
Space Adventure...............32.95 *  list and download adult.zip.   *
Space Quest IV................23.95 ***********************************
SpaceQuest4/Kings Quest.......34.95
Spirit of Excalibur...........38.45    All Lines Operate 24 Hours
Sporting News-Pro Football....36.95   Orders/Inquiry - 615-339-0235
Sports Best on CDRom..........27.95   Orders Only    - 800-547-7817
Star Child....................39.95   Fax            - 615-479-1047
Stellar 7.....................19.95   BBS (14400)    - 615-479-1047

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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 3370
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/15/93 11:26p
Subj: CD-ROMs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Y'all,
         I hope the kind folks in here will excuse me for using bandwidth for
this, but Mike doesn't seem to be in the Fidonet nodelist.

Mike,
     I am interested in buying the latest versions of GREAT CD-Roms.  I have a
particular interest in GR8 shareware collections with particular reference to
subscription CDs such as Walnut Creek do with Simtel-20, CICA-Windows and the
like.  Any info you have may net you a regular customer, same goes for anyone
else reading this, Good CD-Roms are in short supply in Finland <grin>.

Info please to:

               T:mi Softronic

               PL 97

               02101 Espoo

               Finland.

Thanks in advance.


                                                   Cheers,

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3371
  To: MING CHAN                                Date: 08/14/93  9:35p
Subj: NIGHTOWL                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> MC>PC-Pix I 646MB,5500+ Gifs,200+ Movies Discription,Nightlog
-> MC>Images,Gabby's Lounge,Garlique Graphics,Twilight Zone,
-> MC>Prizm,Farmer Daughter & Suger Magnolia 05/92
Hi Ming!

   We don't stock it, but we can get it for you if you wish.... it
should be around $45-50 Cdn.  Give me a call at 306-789-4654 if you're
interested.

   Vince
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From: JIM REED                               Number: 3372
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/15/93  7:15p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CK> WT> Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't
CK> WT> seem to work with QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and
CK> WT> should be able to be moved around by QEMM.  Perplexed
CK> WT> beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would
CK> WT> help.

Hi WES;
        Here's my config which works perfectly for me and this is
        exactly as OPTIMIZE set it up.  The only caveat is that you must
        have the latest drivers.

DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS R:1 RAM ST:M
buffers=50
FILES=10
DOS=HIGH,UMB
LASTDRIVE=Z
FCBS=4,0
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 C:\DEV\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:1
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\RAMDRIVE.SYS 1024 /e
SHELL=C:\4DOS.COM

                        GLuck
                                        /JIM/

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From: SHANE HEDRICK                          Number: 3373
  To: BILL HENDERSON                           Date: 08/15/93  8:54p
Subj: Re: Microsoft Office                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

}}}}}} On 08-13-93  15:48 Bill said to Shane {{{{{{
 BH> Shane, I have 7th guest and CD Game Pack II that I'd trade.How about


      What is CD Game Pack II?  I would like 7th Guest, but
      I don't know about the other.





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From: SHANE HEDRICK                          Number: 3374
  To: THOM JENNINGS                            Date: 08/15/93 10:15p
Subj: Re: Microsoft Office                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

}}}}}} On 08-14-93  21:41 Thom said to Shane {{{{{{
 *SH> Anyone interested in a copy of Microsoft Office on CD?  Would like to t*
 *SH> for                                                                    *
 *SH> Kings Quest 6 or 7th Guest + a couple of shareware CD's.  Or make an of*
 TJ> ***********************************************************************
 TJ> ******
 TJ> I don't have either you are looking for but can buy 7th Guest and
 TJ> complete a deal.  Is the sale of your CD complete with license?  Call

          Thom,
               I have mailed in the registration, however
               I do have the license card for win\office 3.0
               CDROM and also the license card for Microsoft
               Mail v. 3.0.  These are transferable.  I will
               sell for $120 or best offer.

                                           Shane


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From: CAM LIRONDELLE                         Number: 3375
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/15/93  1:00a
Subj: Re: CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURCE              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

can you send me a catalog
Cam Lirondelle
7119-87 ave
edmonton ab
t6b-0l6
thx


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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 3376
  To: STEVE GERWECK                            Date: 08/14/93  1:01p
Subj: SOME NEW ADULT CD'S!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >  MS> Busty Babes 3.0...............33.00

 > You released a message on 8/5 that you were selling BB 3 for $25.
 > What
 > happened???

It's a selling technique used in this echo.  Stick non-knowing users for full
price and those that are smart enough to shop around can have their lowest
quoted estimate matched.

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From: STEPHEN THOMPSON                       Number: 3377
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/15/93  7:48p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Terry!

14 Aug 93, Terry Blount writes to Joey Ratzsch:

 TB> Sorry they are gone.  If you want to send me your phone number I'll call
 TB> you if I get any more.

Oh well... I guess I'm too late also!

I would like to get on your waiting list.  I've never such a price and it
sounds like the perfect way to put CD ROM on my BBS.  My name is Stephen
Thompson at 1:170/709 my home telephone is [phone].

Thanks, Stephen

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3378
  To: HARRY WHEAT                              Date: 08/15/93  1:45a
Subj: Re: 6 disk cd-rom changer               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    I am looking for a BBS program that will run a 6 disk Cd-rom
>>    changer on a BBS. I have looked all over and can't find
>>    anything. If anyone knows of anything please leave me a
>>    message.    Thank's

Harry, any BBS will support a 6-disk changer, unless your running
a multi-node system. Then you'd need to find a door program that will
handle your users as they access the the unit.

If you need further help, give us a call at 216-225-3263 and we'll be
happy to assist you further as we sell and operate a system with 2
6 disk changers and more.....

Boris Osadciw

... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3379
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/16/93 12:11a
Subj: Re: Disk                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Hmmmmm....I think I may be a wealthy man and don't know it. (:>

You may very well be sir !!

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3380
  To: STEVE GERWECK                            Date: 08/16/93 12:57a
Subj: Re: BB                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=>> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Bob Jackson <=-

>>    Hi Boris -

>>    What are your prices on the three versions of Busty Babes?

>>    Thanks..

Well Steve, BB v1 vol1.0 is no longer available from us as we have sold
it to a buyer for $425.00. As for BB v1 vol2 it's priced at $45. and
BB v1 ver3.0 is $25.

Hope this helps and if we can be of any further help, please feel free to
give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be glad to help you
further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3381
  To: JAMES REYLE                              Date: 08/16/93 12:57a
Subj: Re: MAPS CDROM Which one?               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    To all:
>>     Looking for a good USA Map where I can get very detailed on
>>     street level. I was looking at these two, and I wanted to
>>     know what you guys thought about these programs.
>>                 1. Precision Mapping

Our current price is $79.00

>>                 2. Street Atlas USA

Our current price is $75.00

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to
assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3382
  To: MANNY WISE                               Date: 08/16/93 12:57a
Subj: Re: Prices                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    I need price on Night Owl Bussines & PC-Sig12..
>>    Thanks..


Both priced at $25. each....

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to
assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3383
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/16/93 12:57a
Subj: NEW BUSTY BABES                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

)))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.

                      PRICE - $25.00

To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((



Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3384
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/16/93 12:57a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3385
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/16/93 12:57a
Subj: Mix or Match                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Canadian Shareware      Between Heaven & Hell 2
Sophistcated Sante Fe     IBM Sampler             TaxPrep '93'
Sherlock Holmes (TxT)     Game Arena              Shareware Overload
PC Game Room              PC-SIG 8                PC-SIG Games
LaserTax On CD            Phoenix # 3             Jokes&Pranks
Learning Adventure        Business Assistant      World Travler
Sound Sensation           DeathStar Arcade        Colossal CookBook
ClipArt Goliath           Technotools             Our Solar System
Bible & Religion          Windoware               Dictionaries & Languages
Original Shareware        Selectware

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
So-Much-Shareware         Magnum Games/Windows    Shareware Studio #2
Shareware Tiger           Jem Disc w/floppy       PC-SIG Home/Business
QRZ Ham Radio

***********************************************************************

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3386
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/16/93 12:57a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

... Oh never mind!
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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 3387
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/14/93  6:22a
Subj: CD ROM DISCS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > .
 > CB>Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia             14.00
 > .
 > CB>ProPhone 1993                                  33.00


 > I am looking forward to receiving these disks.  Please send as
 > soon as
 > possible.  From what I have seen, there have been a lot of
 > problems with
 > people that have been putting ads like yours in the echo.  I
 > hope we
 > don't have any...  By the way, tried calling the online mall,
 > all I got
 > was a ring through.

Seems that either the mailer or my editing (probably the latter) left off a
column. They are $114.00 and $133.00 not $14.00 and $33.00. If you still want
them, let me know.

Chris

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 3388
  To: MICHAEL MULCAHY                          Date: 08/14/93  6:30a
Subj: CD ROM Discs                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Which of these are compatable with an APPLE CD300 CDROM
 > hardware?..m2

Jets and Props
Battle Chess Enhanced
Sherlock Holmes, Consulting Detective
Family Doctor
Monarch Notes
Shakespeare
Wild Places
World View
Audobon's Birds
Money, Money, Money!
Total Baseball
Otherware I (Shareware)

All are compatable with the MAC and the Otherware I is a combination of MAC &
AMIGA shareware.

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From: TED KIDD                               Number: 3389
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/14/93  8:52p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IA> Hi,
IA> Also within two weeks we are publishing an Amiga disk in ISO-9660
IA> format for BBS Systems. TTYL

Are you gonna post something in the echo about it when it gets released?  I
will be interested in any info you can give before its release.... thanks
BTW, are you (or anyone) doing the same for a Macintosh disc?  I have the BMUG
PD-Rom and the otherware discs, but the PD-Rom can only be accessed on a
macintosh (to be used effectively) and the otherware disc is getting too old.
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From: HERB SCHERKER                          Number: 3390
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/15/93  2:45p
Subj: Disks                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Infinite Space Online.......Home Of Software Farm...The Largest cd-rom Dealer
in the South.....Check out their great prices in Our 24 Hour Shopping Mall..
407-856-0021 1200-2400
407-856-2866 9600-14400

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From: ED KELLERMANN                          Number: 3391
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/15/93 11:55a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom List                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send me a copy of your CD ROM catalog.

    E.S. Kellermann
    PO Box 795
    Eaton Park, Fl  33840-0795

Thanks

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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 3392
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 08/16/93  6:58a
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>  I have a copy of Precision Mapping that I don't need, (already have the
MS>disc), that I will be willing to part with. This is the complete map of the
MS>USA that allows you to zoom all the way down to the street you are looking
MS>for. Search by area code, city name, street name, and zip code. The disc cos
MS>$88.00 to $120 new depending on your source. I will consider all trade offer
MS>or cash.
MS>Thanks,

I'll give you $50 for it.


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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 3393
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 08/16/93  6:58a
Subj: PROPHONE CD'S                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CS>1993 Prophone 7 cd set- includes residential and business listings for the
CS>entire nation.
CS>$85 or make me an offer.
CS>* SPITFIRE v3.3
CS>--- FreeMail 1.07b
CS> * Origin: The Outer-Limits [phone] * HST/V32 * (1:2290/70)

I'll give you $70 for it.  How do I get a hold of you?

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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 3394
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/16/93  6:58a
Subj: DISK                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LN>No problem, Jim...the label film on the disc says, "Graphic Software"--Deale
LN>now have bids for $350.00 per each 1.0 disc--
LN>Versions 2.0 and 3.0 do not have these large font words on the disc film--If
LN>you have one of these, hold onto it--

Hey Lee, I have vol 1 with the "Graphic Software" imprint on the disk.
If any of your dealer buddys are interested I'll let mine go for $250.

Seriously!

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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 3395
  To: RON THOMPSON                             Date: 08/16/93  6:58a
Subj: GRANDMA AND ME                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RT>  Are you talking about a new or used copy, Al? I am just getting into
RT>CdRom, so I don't have much in the way of disks yet. I will keep you in
RT>mind. Please be patient - it could be another three or four weeks before
RT>the grant money arrives.


It's a new copy still shrinkwrapped.  Leave me a message when you get
your grant money.  I may want to get rid of it even worse!

Al

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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 3396
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/16/93  6:58a
Subj: 2 ROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a couple of CD's that I am willing to trade or sell.

                      U.S. History on CD-Rom
                      Terrorist Group Profiles on CD-ROM
                      Microsoft Bookshelf (CD-ROM)


Give me an offer or tell me what you have to trade.


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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 3397
  To: EDWARD CROUSER                           Date: 08/13/93 10:51p
Subj: Os/2 cdrom drive                        Refer: NONE
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EC>         I'm looking to buy a OS/2 2.1 compatible CDROM drive. It doe
EC>  matter whether it's internal or external, buy I'd really prefer a c
EC>  drive. Or at least one that is automatic. The one I use right now i
EC>  horrible for switching CDs! Of course, I'd like it to be a bit
EC>  fast <= 350ms. Please, let me know if anyone has one for sale. If y
EC>  can get me a good price, I'll buy it in a second!

 MITSUMICDD CDD - Mitsumi CD-ROM drive                 188.00
 CDR-38     CDD - NEC MultiSpin 38 portable            354.00
 CDR-74     CDD - NEC MultiSpin 74 external            552.00
 CDR-84     CDD - NEC MultiSpin 84 internal            459.00
 532        CDD - Panasonic 290ms, SCSI-2              362.00
 562        CDD - Panasonic 320ms, double speed        287.00
 522        CDD - Panasonic 380ms/AT bus               211.00
 PHILIPSINT CDD - Philips internal CD-ROM drive        194.00
 CDDDRM600A CDD - Pioneer DRM-600A 6-disk changer      851.00
 CDDDRM604X CDD - Pioneer DRM-604X 6-disk changer     1257.00
 CDU/31A02  CDD - Sony 150KB/sec, MPC, Multi-session   151.00
 DM3024     CDD - Texel DM3024 internal CD-ROM drive   373.00
 DM5024     CDD - Texel DM5024 CD-ROM drive ext.       467.00
 CDDXM3401B CDD - Toshiba XM3401B internal drive       443.00

That's all of 'em, Edward.........
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From: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                      Number: 3398
  To: MARK SMITH                               Date: 08/14/93 10:54a
Subj: Aussie needs help...                    Refer: NONE
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MS> G'day Everybody!

MS> How are you all..??? The land of the CD ROM is very new to me, In fa
MS> so new
MS> I haven't even purchased one yet. There seem to be a lot of experts
MS> there  guys. Perhaps you can give me some ideas on what to look out
MS> for...??? What  sort of to look for when buying a CD player...???

Depends on what you want, Mark......

 MITSUMICDD CDD - Mitsumi CD-ROM drive                 188.00
 CDR-84     CDD - NEC MultiSpin 84 internal            459.00
 CDU/31A02  CDD - Sony 150KB/sec, MPC, Multi-session   151.00
 DM3024     CDD - Texel DM3024 internal CD-ROM drive   373.00
 CDDXM3401B CDD - Toshiba XM3401B internal drive       443.00

MS> And of course the best places to buy CD's long distance..<grin> Anyo
MS> want to  start a branch in Australia...???<grin>

Ok, I'm willing.....

 How to contact me; Internet - [e-mail], or
 Phone: [phone], or FAX: [phone], or simply reply here!


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3399
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 08/14/93  2:20p
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS> I have a copy of Precision Mapping that I don't need, (already have the
  >disc), that I will be willing to part with.

I am interested in a copy for myself.  I sell them but would be willing
to make a trade for something else.  How about 2 shareware CD's?  Well,
let me know what you are interested and we can make a deal. :)

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3400
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 08/14/93  2:24p
Subj: Prophone cd's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CS>1993 Prophone 7 cd set- includes residential and business listings for the
  >entire nation.
  >$85 or make me an offer.

I'll offer $70 plus postage ($2.90 Priority Mail).
[phone]

                                                Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3401
  To: PRODUCERS                                Date: 08/14/93  2:34p
Subj: Christian Shareware                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am a CD-Rom retailer (Computer Works), and I have been approached MANY
times recently by sysops who run Christian BBSes.  They are looking for
a Christian shareware CD-Rom that is BBS ready.  With all the other
special interest topics, I think we could do something for them as well.
What do you think?

Computer Works                                          Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: JACK HUDDLE                            Number: 3402
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/16/93 12:13p
Subj: SBpro for sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I recently purchased a Labtec CD-Rom upgrade kit and I find I have a
brand new Sound Blaster Pro  forsale inthe box unused forsale. I will
let it go for 100.00 plus $5.00 shipping first class (US only) plus will
throw in Lemmings at no additional charge with unused manual and output
cable that came with the SBPRO....

Also have a like new DAK(Sony CDU6201) External CD-ROM like new with
controler card and ribbon cable and installation program Shipped first
class (US Only) for $310.00. Specs are  150K byte Data transfer Rate
540Mbytes of digital data/half height external in case/uses caddies/
can dasey chain 4 togeather off of controler card/audio play-back via
phone jack on front panel. If interested my number is [phone]
orleave msg here.......Tks Jack

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3403
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/15/93  4:56p
Subj: BB3 Review                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I scanned in the review from the hardcopy I'd saved. There may be a few
"word glitches" but I think it's readable. I package this as three
messages to you.
========================================================================
First, many thanks to "Lady Lee" (Noga) of Florida Lion's Den, Inc.
(FLD) for sending me a copy of "Busty Babes Volume #1 Release 3.0" (BB3)
for review.

Secondly, this review will follow the format, style, and content
paradigms that were used in my reviews of "Digital Dreams" (Ero Tek) and
Pork Ware 1" inasmuch as there will be three parts: Statistics,
Operations, and Visual.  I will use the same criteria as I outlined in my
previous descriptions of those parts.

Thirdly, having learned that FidoNet can tolerate reasonably long posts,
I'll use only three messages for this review, one for each of the parts
named above.

Finally, remember, WHAT FOLLOWS IS ONE PERSON'S OPINION.  While I try
very hard to be as objective as possible in writing these reviews,
(objectivity is part of what I do to satisfy Maslow), individual
preferences, both mine and yours, will always introduce some level of
subjectivity, particularly in the operations and visual parts.  All set?
Here we go.....

Statistics
==========

This section focuses on numerical data relative to the physical contents
of the CD.

Let me begin by stating that measuring the exact number of files on a CD
isn't as simple as it may sound, nor all that important.  Most CDs these
days have thousands of files on them, particularly image CDs and shareware
CDs.  While one might assume that a simple DIR would suffice to determine
the number of files on a CD, it won't.  First, DIR will count the "." and
".." subdirectory "files" (note: these have been taken into account in the
figures below).  Secondly, even when using DIR with a "qualifier" like
*.GIF, a directory may show files that aren't actually there, or are corrup-
ted in some way (BB3 has a few of these, too) that makes them useless and
therefore might as well not be there.  Finally, what my CD-ROM drive can
read, yours may not, and vice-versa.  Accordingly, when I give various
counts and sizes and you subsequently find that your stats don't EXACTLY
agree with mine, don't take it too hard.

BB3 disclosed a count of 2663 GIF files (not counting the catalog files -
more on those later) totaling 499 Mb.  That yields an average byte size of
187 Kb per GIF which is consistent with the observation that most of the GlFs
are either 800x600 or 640x480 in resolution and most occupy relatively large
portions of the screen when displayed normally.  All told, the CD disclosed
3278 files occupying 528 Mb.  The difference of 615 files is accounted for by
the 200 catalog GIF files and by the utilities and other programs included on
the CD.

Operations to follow...

... Alas! The poor Tagline. I knew it well.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3404
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/15/93  4:57p
Subj: BB3 Review 2 of 3                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Operations
==========

This part of the review focuses on those aspects of the CD that effect
convenience and usability.  It is, therefore, somewhat more subjective
than the statistical part.

I'm not a sysop so I'm not too interested, and certainly not
knowledgeable in the "BBS Ready" aspects of CDs.  However, knowing that
any of you are sysops, I'm including what I found about those
characteristics vis-a-vis BB3.  Perhaps a more qualified person can
correct or amplify my findings later on.

There are indeed FILES.BBS files in each of the sub-directories.
Moreover, there are (untested by me) utilities to convert them to any of
several BBS formats including: PCBoard, WildCat, Tag, Maximus/Opus,
Telegard, SpitFire, Renegade, and QBBS.  Random sampling of the FILES.BBS
revealed that their contents contained appropriate descriptions, and by
and large correct spellings and grammar, etc.  There is also an
ALLFILES.LST and utilities to convert/generate others for several BBS
systems.

Additional utilities include late versions of both CSHOW and VPIC as well
as some nice-to-haves like a GlF-to-EXE converter (makes a GIF into a
self-displaying .EXE file); programs to print GlFs on various types of
printers; etc.  All in all, I can't imagine that anyone would really NEED
any more GIF support than is included on the CD, though preference may
dictate other choices.

BB3's directory organization differs substantially from that in BB1 (but
again, probably less so than with BB2's).  There some are 27-odd
sub-directories, 19 of which are given over to GIF imaqes (not counting
the catalog GIFs).  Given what I can recall from BB2, and several hour's
of experience with BB1  =(:>  I'd iay that BB3's structure is generally
an improvement, save one case.  By improvement I mean that CD's contents
are better organized from the standpoint that the names of the
sub-directories give better clues to their contents.  The exception is
the "FETISH" directory which contains 99% S&M or B&D type images.  On
BB1, these images were more appropriately in the "SM,BD" directory. The word
Fetish is too broad a term to be limited to S&M and B&D.  I suspect there
were "hidden agenda" reasons behind the re-naming.

The "gem" of BB3 is her user interface (to use a little personification).
While the ever-reliable text-based CDMENU interface is also included, FLD
has also provided a GUI-like interface via a program appropriately called
"SHOWOFF" (SO).  Now as anyone who has tried more than one GIF viewer
knows, no one program is going to be all things to all people.  However,
some come a lot closer than others.  SO is in this category.

To begin, installation is simple and goof-proof.  FLD included some SO
"quick start" instructions with BB3 that were error free.  Basically,
you're asked a few simple questions (like what's the letter designation
of your CD-ROM drive).  From there, some supportinq files and programs
are copied to your HDD and you're returned to DOS.  A simple "SOCD" (or
S0CD16 if you're not SVGA) and, as the Enqlish say: "Bob's your uncle!"
meaning "That's that!"  You're up and running and ready to look at the
lovely ladies of BB3.  After a startup screen, you can pick and choose
among directories, do point-and-click selection from a "catalog" of
reduced-size images (too large to be described as "thumbnail"), and go on
to zoom in, zoom out, pan in all directions, etc.  While it would take
far too much space to do and inside-out reuiew of SO here, I will say
this much:  From a viewers standpoint, SO is, HANDS DOWN, the slickest
"no-brainer" user interface to an image CD to come down the pike to date.

For all sorts of reasons, I tried hard not to like SO or at least not let
it beguile me.  I had to look pretty hard to find any chinks in its
armor.  I found a few, but they were small.  First, the reduced-size
images are quite grainy due to (I assume) little or no antialiasing
during their creation.  This is annoying but not debilitating because as
the mouse pointer passes over each reduced-size image, the appropriate
description from FILES.BBS is displayed at the bottom of the screen.  If
you can't make out what's in the picture (a rare occurrence), this
description will help.  Secondly, the "hide/restore" feature (handy if
nwelcome kibitzers happen by) only works from the main K/B "-" key; the
keypad "-" key (if you have one) won't work.  Thirdly, SO scribbles a lot
on the HDD while you're viewing images.  A slow drive will likely
adversely affect performance unless a "smart" HDD cache with queued
writes is used.   Perhaps worst, the included version of SO seemed to be
locked in 640x480 resolution.  Higher resolution images had to be manually
zoomed in on to their full size on the screen.  I couldn't figure out how to
tell SO that my video setup was capable of a lot more.

I also couldn't find out how to run a slideshow although browsing through
the documentation seemed to indicate that such a feature exists.  Also,
there was no indication how reduced-size images are created so I can't say
how hard it would be to set up your own catalogs from other GIF collections.
Presumably, if one orders the standalone version of SO (order blank included),
these things would become clear.

Bottom line for SO:  Slick, easy, and FUN to use for viewing BB3 images.
There are a number of files in SO's HDD directory for configuration,
runtime "notes", etc. hinting at some fairly sophisticated capabilities
which aren't evident in the included version.  How difficult such
capabilities might be to set up and use are beyond the scope of this
review.

Bottom line for BB3 operations:  Pure joy.  Fast, intuitive, and
seemingly bulletproof.  Novices will especially like its convenience and
"old pros" will appreciate the effort the producers put into it.  If you
don't have an adult CD and want one, BB3 would be a "'can"t lose"' choice.
If you've already seen several or would like to see just how far GIF
viewer technology has gone, BB3 and SO can provide you with an interesting
excursion into "Gee whiz" land.

Visual to follow.

... Docs? Why would I want to look at the Docs. Nurses are better :)
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3405
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/15/93  4:58p
Subj: BB3 Review 3 of 3                       Refer: NONE
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Visual
======

This part of the review focuses on the visual merits of the CD's imagery
as judged by this reviewer.  Accordingly, it is more subjective than
either of the two preceding parts. and should be taken as such.

Like its forebearers, BB3 is a full-blown X-rated CD.  Some of its images
are as raw as raw legally gets.  It's worth noting that a large number of
the scans are R-rated in that, outside of exhibitionism, no sexual
activity is depicted at all.  This is primarily true of the "BUSTYn"
directories (O <= n <= 6).

Comparing BB3 GIF files names against my those in my data base taken from
BB1 (Rel. I not Rel. 2), I found 1731 duplicate names.  Had I been able
to run the comparison against BB2, doubtless a larger number would have
been forthcoming.  Run against the whole data base, an additional 398
duplicate names were found.  These numbers indicate that BB3 is indeed
just as her producer advertised: essentially a re-make of BB2 to correct
past "sins"', at least as far as credits for the GIF files are concerned.

Within BB3 itself, I found 10 GIF files that were duplicated.  That is,
there are 10 pairs of files where each member of a pair contains exactly
the same image.  One of the pairs even shares the same name: "L_H0NEY5.GIF"
which appears in two different directories.  The other nine pairs have
different names and appear in the same or different directories as their
"image mates".  There may be other pairs, but I didn"t detect them with
my computer-aided processes.

Like it predecessors, BB3's images are by and large quite good. Certainly
they are on a par with contemporary releases.  Most images are either
640x480 or 800x600 in resolution.  The scans are generally sharp and
professional looking in appearance.  If you already have one or two of the
more popular adult image CDs, (e.g. Ecstasy, FAO, Seedy ROM, etc.) you'll
feel right at home with the quality of BB3's pictures.

As previously mentioned, BB3's directory structure is an improvement over
BB1 and BB2, IMHO.  In addition, there are some scans that aren't in
either of the predecessor volumes - not enough to warrant purchase solely
based on that fact, but nice lagniappe if you're going to buy the disk
anyway.  Finally, there's a truly new directory in that all of its images
(some 115 of them) are definitely not in either BB1 or BB2.  That is the
"MICHELLA"' directory and it's contents are exclusively scans of a lady by
that name.  These scans are soft and generally somewhat dark.  They're
pleasant enough; mostly "R to hard R'" and frequently with a lady friend
only identified as "L" in tender-looking poses.  If I had to chose a single
word, on the whole (no pun intended) I'd call the "MICHELLA" pics "artistic".

In sum, if you're lookinq for an adult CD with a variety of subject
matter, BB3 would be a good choice.  If you're a true collector, you'll
probably want BB3 to complete the set; I'm sure FLD's not planning a Rel.
4.0 - there'd be no point to it.  Release 1.0 is already a collector's
item;  Release 2.0 doesn't surrender anything meaningful to Release 3.0
in image content; Release 3.0's raison d'etre, outside of some mea culpa
repair work, is SO.  There's just no more mileage in this collection.

So, Lee, what'cha got up your sleeves for us next?  Whatever it is, make
sure SO hangs in there!
=======================================================================
There you are, Kind Lady. When can we expect the next FLD production??


... 24 hours in a day...24 beers in a case...coincidence?
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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 3406
  To: CURT LARSON                              Date: 08/16/93  1:23p
Subj: Re: SCSI Cables                         Refer: NONE
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>I am looking to purchase 2 external, 50 pin SCSI cables (or one with
>multiple plugs).  I need a female on either end.  Please call
>[phone] or leave a message here.  Thanks.

I wish you had let me know, I can get the cables locally and shipped them
with the drives.

Do you need centronics 50 --> centronics 50?
or
Do you need DB25 --> Centronics 50?

give me a call. 205-837-5053

They are pretty reasonably price here locally and how much depends on
length needed.


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From: JOHN TRIMBACK                          Number: 3407
  To: BILL ALEXANDER                           Date: 08/16/93 12:57a
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives                        Refer: NONE
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  *In a message dated 14 Aug 93   5:09:04 Bill Alexander writes:

> John,
> How much for 2  4x9 SIMMs?
>
> Thanks
> Bill
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i will let 2 - 4 megs simms go for $175.00...let me know
J. Trimback
1845 E. Albert ST
Phila, Pa 19125

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From: KEN TULLY                              Number: 3408
  To: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529               Date: 08/16/93  7:29a
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROMS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SF@9> Hiya, Ken!
 SF@9> On Aug 08, Ken Tully spake thusly to Keith Sheehan:

 KT> will be BBS ready for both PCBoard, and Files.bbs
 SF@9> i'm a sysop and i would MUCH rather wait for a disk
 SF@9> that will "self-install" than do it myself!
 SF@9> <shudder>  simtel is still sitting here uninstalled
 SF@9> cuz i have not the time to do it...

Thank you for the input Sandeleh.  Your opinion is appreciated, and noted.  As
much as I'd like to release the disk now, I agree with you and will try to put
it off until the front end is ready.


                                        Ken...

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From: BRIAN DHATT                            Number: 3409
  To: LESLIE THOMAS                            Date: 08/16/93 10:36a
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Saturday August 14 1993 07:42, Leslie Thomas wrote to Al James:

 LT> As I said, I am interested in a model that would be controllable through
 LT> the port on the SB Pro...I need an internal model.  Thank you for the
 LT> repsone though.

I'm not a dealer, but I know MPS Multimedia has two models that work with the
SBPro.  One is the Panasonic 522, with 390 ms, 150kb/s for $179.  The other is
the 562 whick has 340 ms, 300 kb/s for $269.  Prices probably went down since
this old magazine printing, so give them a call at 800-533-4MPS.  You might
want to pick up a Computer Shopper magazine and look up their ad in the
advertisers index.  It has a bunch of package deals and special deals on CDs.

Hope this helps...

Brian

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 3410
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 08/15/93  1:55p
Subj: Re: Trade adult CD for Adult            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 RB>  hello i have  xxx extreme if your still interested.
 RB>              leave me mail
 RB>                      ROBERT A BIR

  Hello Robert.  I have Hot Pix Volume #5.  Would consider an
  even trade.  We pick up our own shipping.  If interested
  send you CD, I will do the same when I get your address.
      My address:
          Max Green
          399 Westmeade Dr.
          Gretna, LA. 70056

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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3411
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/16/93  9:33a
Subj: FREE CD-ROM                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Vince!

Saturday August 14 1993 01:11, Vince Sorensen wrote to Mark Smith:

 VS> We're currently negotiating with a number of folks in Australia, but
 VS> nothing has been settled yet... get me your address or FAX number, and
 VS> I'd be glad to send you some info. Our FAX number here is 306-789-8690
 VS> and our VOICE number is 306-789-4654.

Okay, Thanks for getting back to me. My FAX Number is 61-46-471-499, VOICE
number at work is 61-46-471-625. Postal address is:

                     P.O. Box 242
                     Campbelltown
                     NSW 2560
                     Australia....

We have a location 45 minutes drive from the heart of Sydney, and we are a
major distributor for a number of BBS networks. both factors combined we
believe we are assured of good turnover.

Regs,

Mark Smith

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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 3412
  To: MICHAEL SHUBER                           Date: 08/15/93  3:26p
Subj: 7th guest & sbpro                       Refer: NONE
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          Michael Shuber wrote
----------------------------------------
>>I am interested in some update or patch that is supposed to be out for
>>the Sound Blaster Pro and The 7th Guest.  Does anyone know anything
>>about this???
---------------------------------------- Yep, there is one out there.  You can
get it by calling the bulletin board listed below.  I have already uploaded it
there and it helped me out with two problems.  One of them being the fatal
"SOUND BUFFER OVERFLOW".  I am clicking away on it now...

Lee Christopher Wise
===
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 3413
  To: JAMES REYLE                              Date: 08/15/93  4:08p
Subj: MAPS CDROM Which one?                   Refer: NONE
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Hello James!

Friday August 13 1993, James Reyle writes to All:

 JR>  Looking for a good USA Map where I can get very detailed on street
 JR>  level. I was looking at these two, and I wanted to know what you
 JR>  guys thought about these programs.
 JR>              1. Precision Mapping
 JR>              2. Street Atlas

I sell both, but personally recommend Precision Mapping.


... First Hillary, then Jennifer... now US!

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3414
  To: JEREMY NINO                              Date: 08/16/93  6:16p
Subj:  Busty Babes                            Refer: NONE
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 JN> Alright!  Gittem BUB!!!


FYI: "Lee" is a Lady.
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From: TERRY GREENMAN                         Number: 3415
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/07/93  8:27p
Subj: TRADE?                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,

I have a CD disk that is XTRA to me..and would like to trade for just about
anything. (I don't have MUCH) so this is what I have to trade.

The WIZ-PAK 6-pak CD-ROM disk, over 170 programs, VGA pain prog animations,
arcade and educational and much, much, more....

I have one to trade for just about anything.
Let's talk.

... This tagline is SHAREWARE!  To register, send me $10
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From: SEAN CREIGH                            Number: 3416
  To: RON COLEMAN                              Date: 08/15/93  4:05p
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I just got Ecstacy Hot Pics the other day. It has over 2600 gifs, over 330
animations, over 470 stories plus all the viewers and other stuff. It was only
$29 and I got it from Freedom software or something like that. It is in
Columbus, IN and they have an ad in computer magazines. Hope this helps.
                                    Sean Creigh

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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3417
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 08/16/93 12:09p
Subj: RE: SegaCD's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->
-> >Is that cd+g any good? My cdtv player can play that,,,what exact art
-> >are on it and what price do you want for it?
-> It's a cool disk,unfortunately I can't play it since I got rid of my
-> SegaCD.It has 2 songs by Jimi Hendrix,2 by Information Society,2 by F
-> Mac,2 by Little Feat,2 by Chris Isaak.It's in a double case with a re
-> CD,so they would have to go together.You can have both for $10+S&H.
-> >btw,
-> >where did you buy that?
-> They came with my SegaCD.
->
-> If interested,you can send a M/O to:  Diana Kirksey
->                                       1624 Hwy.99 Sp79
->                                       Manteca,CA.  95336
->
-> You can reach me at my BBS:   Deanna's StarBBS  [phone] or Voi
-> [phone]
->
->
->                                       Diana
->
->
-> --- FX-BBS V3.41ß[386]r
->  * Origin: -=BerthaBoard=- Manteca, Ca. [phone]/239-9853 (1:20
->
I am sending out $12.90 tomorrow.  YOu could send those cd's priority
mail pack from the post office for $2.90.  If you have some sort of
brochure from the segacd about more cd+g's then, let me know

My number is [phone]


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3418
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/16/93 12:10p
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> VS>Vito A Servideo
-> VS>2741 ne 24 street
-> VS>LIghthouse Point, FL  33064
->
-> VS>p.s.
-> VS>do you have any cd+g titiles?
->
->   Hey, Vito.  We'll try to get one to you as soon as we can.  Thanks
->  for replying.
->                                                Mark
->
-> --- FreeMail 1.08b
->  * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
->

Please let me know as sson as you get some cd+g's.  My number is
[phone]


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3419
  To: TROY JOHNSON                             Date: 08/16/93  4:44p
Subj: Flatbed Scanner                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I have a Epson GS-600 (ES-600C), color flatbed scanner for sale.
->
-> It is about three months old, I am selling it because someone donated
-> a HPIIC and no longer need it for the board!
->
-> I will let it go for best offer over $550.00 comes with the parrallel
-> interface card and all docs and cables..
->
-> Call me voice at 702-459-8862 after 4P.M. P.S.T. for more details
->
-> Troy Johnson
->
-> --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0109]
->  * Origin: Real Pro BBS Home of the Pioneer CD-Rom Changer (1:209/249
->
Will that bad boy work on amiga?


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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3420
  To: SREVE GEWECK                             Date: 08/16/93 11:22p
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you are interested in Busty Babes Vol#1 I have it! You can give me a call at
512-939-9822 or leave a message. It's really my husbands but what's his is mine
and what's mine is mine :) Pat

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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 3421
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/15/93 10:04p
Subj: X Movie Review CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Does ANYONE recall reading my review of Busty Babes Release 3.0?? If
-> not, I'll recreate it and re-post.

Bob, appreciate all your reviews. The one in question arrived fine in
Levelland, Tx via Lunatic Fringe BBS in Dallas.

James

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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 3422
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/16/93  6:03p
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Could you (and anyone else that has CdRom Disks for sale) send me a
catalog, please?  Some of you already have. Thanks!

11749 Prado Del Sol
El Paso  TX 79936-6218


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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 3423
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/16/93  6:04p
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   If you are Computer Works, I just received a catalog in today's mail.
If not, please disregard this message.


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From: JIM REED                               Number: 3424
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/16/93  6:22p
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LN>BJ>> A while back, you gave me some prelim. data on a soon-to-be-released
LN>BJ>> CD that had reviews of X-rated movies on it by Jim Holliday.

Hi BOB;
        Just saw one exactly like this advertised in the back of aPC
        Magazine.  Don't know if it was the same one but it sure seemed
        simular.
                        /JIM/

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3425
  To: VINCE SORENSEN                           Date: 08/16/93  8:09p
Subj: Duty Being Charged.                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

VS>CD-ROMs coming across the border again, claiming that the free trade
VS>agreement does not include them. As an example, I received a *DEMO*
VS>CD-ROM today that I was charged $5 postal handling, $2.43 Duty, and
VS>$3.78 GST. So, a "free" disc ending up costing over $10. This means that

If the disc was free ($0), what percentage sales tax did they
apply to get $3.78?

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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 3426
  To: MICHAEL SHUBER                           Date: 08/16/93  9:46a
Subj: 7th Guest & SBPro                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <11 Aug 93  22:22:00>, Michael Shuber (1:272/38) writes:
 >I am interested in some update or patch that is supposed to be out for
 >the Sound Blaster Pro and The 7th Guest.  Does anyone know anything
 >about this???
Yeah, it is available from Virign's BBS. I don't have the number handy, but if
you call the BBS number on the card in the box voice, it will tell you to cll
another number, which is a 4 line BBS at 14.4. The file will take around 3
minutes at 14.4.


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From: KIRK PRODZINSKI                        Number: 3427
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/17/93  1:22a
Subj: Re: Sound Sample CD-ROM D               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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From: JONATHAN MCGIRR                        Number: 3428
  To: SCOTT MARTIN                             Date: 08/16/93  8:55a
Subj: CD ROM Disk                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Hi Mike, I see you are getting a lot of good references. I wanted you
-> me a reference for a Good CD ROM Disk to buy from you. I run a Gaming
-> am looking for a disk with NOTHING but Shareware and P.D. Games and C

Not sure whether you want to be legal or not? Cracks are illegal copies
of commercial software, or aren't you aware of that?


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From: MICHAEL DAVIS                          Number: 3429
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 08/14/93 11:00p
Subj: RE: Precision Mapping                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

======================================================================
From: MICHAEL SELLS             Conference: 87 , CDROM-Sale
  To: ALL                       Message: 1501  Reply To:
Subj: Precision Mapping         Date: 08-13-93  Time: 03:47
======================================================================

Hi,
It might be fun to have that CD-ROM, would you accept $30 +shipping
and COD for it?
Mike



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From: MICHAEL DAVIS                          Number: 3430
  To: CHRIS SNYDER                             Date: 08/14/93 11:01p
Subj: RE: Prophone cd's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

======================================================================
From: CHRIS SNYDER              Conference: 87 , CDROM-Sale
  To: ALL                       Message: 1512  Reply To:
Subj: Prophone cd's             Date: 08-08-93  Time: 23:18
======================================================================

Hi,
Would you accept $40 +shipping and COD for this CD-ROM set?
Mike



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From: REBEL                                  Number: 3431
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 08/16/93  5:43p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

@ORIGIN :Southern Pride BBS 1:151/151                                N
-> CK> WT> Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't
-> CK> WT> seem to work with QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and
-> CK> WT> should be able to be moved around by QEMM.  Perplexed
-> CK> WT> beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would
-> CK> WT> help.

Heres my config I run 3 of them with QEMM without a hitch

DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS R:2 RAM ST:M
DOS=HIGH,UMB
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /E:768 /p DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2
C:\DOS\RAMDRIVE.SYS 1024 /E rem DEVICE=C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.SYS 2048
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 C:\X00.SYS E b,0,38400 rem
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\IBMAUX2.SYS /X DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1
\DEV\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0 /M:2 /T:3 /I:5 DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.sys
/r:2 \dev2\mtmcds.sys /d:mscd002 /p:348 /a:0 DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2
\DEV2\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD003 /P:340 /A:0


Hope this helps
Eddie Goodman
Southern Pride


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 3432
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/16/93  1:41p
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <08-15-93 08:05> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> Basically I said it represented the
BJ>> state-of-the-practice if not the state-of-the-art in GUI front ends
BJ>> for CDs. I only cited a few negatives such as the reduced images
BJ>> being quite "grainy", etc....

Never saw it--The "Grainy" images in thumbnail form 16 images to a page is due
to the scan being 'Dithered' which is typical of scans done by older scanners
of 2-3 years ago--As you click on the image and enlarge it to full form, the
'Grainy' disappears--YOu notice it more on McHenry's scans etc.

SHOWOFF is our baby now in this industry, and you will see her on our 2 disc's
coming out in September--

Thanks Babe !

-=*>Lee<*+-

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From: LESLIE THOMAS                          Number: 3433
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 08/16/93  8:14a
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GM>Leslie,
GM>     I have an MPC compatible CD-ROM drive that I run with my SBPRO.
GM>have 13 CDs that I would like to sell with it.  Please call me at
GM>[phone] or leave a message here if you are interested. Thanks.


I am interested, what price range are you looking for?  Just to make
sure...this is connected to the SB Pro as a controller, and not through
the audio in?

    WinQwk 2.0 a#0


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From: WILLIAM E GOSSETT                      Number: 3434
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 08/16/93 12:18a
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Leslie,
 >      I have an MPC compatible CD-ROM drive that I run
 > with my SBPRO.  I also have 13 CDs that I would like
 > to sell with it.  Please call me at
 > [phone] or leave a message here if you are
 > interested. Thanks.

What are the title of the cd's?
is the drive internal or external?
what would take for them?

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From: TONY DAVIS                             Number: 3435
  To: BUBBA THERRIEN                           Date: 08/14/93  9:41a
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> On July 20th, I was arrested and all my BBS equipment was seized. If
-> found guilty, I am facing 15 years / $25,000 for sale & possession of
-> obscene material.

 >  Tony where did this happen and is this a federal law or a local
 >law in your home state? I thought a BBS was a PRIVATE electronic
 >service? Did you let most people access your files without verifying
 >ages? Please let me know about this law.


I was arrested by Oklahoma City Police Department on State obscenity charges.
It had nothing to do with age, just a decision by the OKC PD that the 'adult'
cds were in violation of the State of Oklahoma's Obscenity laws to own or
distribute.

Tony

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From: TONY DAVIS                             Number: 3436
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/14/93  6:22p
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >Let us in on your situation . . . what are the details???  In what
 >state do you live?

Oklahoma. The BBS had 16 CD Roms, 4 of which were 'adult'. They were FAO 3,
Storm 2 & 3, and Busty Babes.  According to the officers that arrested me,
anything that shows 'penatration' is obscene by State statute.

Tony

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From: TONY DAVIS                             Number: 3437
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/16/93  7:11p
Subj: OIE                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Update on The Oklahoma Information Exchange BBS:

As most are aware, the OIE BBS was seized in a raid by Oklahoma City
Police Department on July 20th. Until formal charges were filed, all
decisions on the future of the BBS were delayed.

On Aug 13th, the Oklahoma County District Attorney's office finally filed
felony charges. They were:

    2 felony counts of selling obscene CD-Roms
    1 felony count of possessing obscene CD-Roms
    1 felony count of trafficking obscene material by electronic means.

Of the 16 CD that were on the BBS, the 4 that were actually listed as
obscene in the felony filing were:

            Busty Babes Vol 1
            Storm 2
            For Adults Only (FAO) 2
            For Adults Only (FAO) 3


That last count is the kicker. Since the DA has decided that the BBS
itself was in violation of laws, there seems little doubt that the OIE BBS
equipment will not be returned prior to a long drawn out legal fight.

Although I have every intention of filing whatever civil suites are
necessary to get the equipment returned, I truly believe there will not be
a quick return of OIE.

Tony

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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 3438
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/16/93  9:02p
Subj: C/C++ CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the fifth edition of
its C/C++ CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a dump
of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
987 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:[phone], EMail:[e-mail]
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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 3439
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/17/93  5:04p
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Aug 16 06:58>, Al James of 1:279/7 writes:

MS>  I have a copy of Precision Mapping that I don't need, (already have the
MS>disc), that I will be willing to part with. This is the complete map of the
MS>USA that allows you to zoom all the way down to the street you are looking
MS>for. Search by area code, city name, street name, and zip code. The disc
MS>cos$88.00 to $120 new depending on your source. I will consider all trade
MS>offeror cash.
MS>Thanks,

Sorry Al, it's been sold.
Michael Sells


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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 3440
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/17/93  5:05p
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Aug 14 14:20>, Jim Lambert of 1:18/10 writes:

MS> I have a copy of Precision Mapping that I don't need, (already have the
  >disc), that I will be willing to part with.
 JL>
 JL> I am interested in a copy for myself.  I sell them but would be
 JL> willing
 JL> to make a trade for something else.  How about 2 shareware CD's?
 JL> Well,
 JL> let me know what you are interested and we can make a deal. :)
 JL>
Sorry Jim, it's sold.
Michael Sells

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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 3441
  To: MICHAEL DAVIS                            Date: 08/17/93  5:05p
Subj: RE: Precision Mapping                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Aug 14 23:00>, MICHAEL DAVIS of 1:207/225 writes:

 MD> =================================================================
 MD> =====
 MD> From: MICHAEL SELLS             Conference: 87 , CDROM-Sale
 MD>   To: ALL                       Message: 1501  Reply To:
 MD> Subj: Precision Mapping         Date: 08-13-93  Time: 03:47
 MD> =================================================================
 MD> =====

 MD> Hi,
 MD> It might be fun to have that CD-ROM
Sorry Michael, it's sold.
Michael Sells

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From: MATT BLOCKER                           Number: 3442
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93 10:19p
Subj: Shareware                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone have any shareware CD for sale?

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From: GREG GILETTO                           Number: 3443
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/17/93  9:31p
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bob,
I saw your review of BB3. Just wanted to let you know.
See Ya on BBS.
Greg

... LETS GO PHILLIES!!!
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From: RALPH MOWERY                           Number: 3444
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/12/93  7:04p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WT>Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work with QEMM.
WT>driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved around by QEMM.  Perplexed
WT>beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would help.

I have been using QEMM and also Stacker ( for what that is worth ) With
the Mitsumi CD and do not seem to have any problem with it.  The drive
is driven by a sound card .

I am posting the AUTOEXEC.BAT file

c:\24xmode monitor
REM  THE "CHECK" LINE BELOW PROVIDES ADDITIONAL SAFETY FOR STACKER DRIVES.
REM  PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE IT.
C:\STACKER\CHECK /WP
PATH C:\DOS;C:\QEMM;C:\STACKER;C:\WINDOWS;c:\nbwin;C:\NORTON;C:\QA;C:\XTGOLD;C:
C:\WINDOWS\SMARTDRV.EXE
rem C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:1 C:\DOS\SHARE
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 FILES 40
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 C:\PROTECT\VWATCH
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:1 C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001 /M:10 /E /L:G
SET TEMP=c:\DOS
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T4 PROMPT =$P$G$G

and CONFIG.SYS file

DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS R:2 exclude=A000-C7FF RAM DBF=2 xst=c000 ST:M
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /E:1024 /p
Files = 10
buffers=10
DOS=HIGH,umb
LASTDRIVE=H
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 C:\STACKER\STACKER.COM /ems  C:\STACVOL.DSK /P=5


DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.sys C:\STACKER\SSWAP.COM C:\STACVOL.DSK /SYNC+
DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.sys /r:1 c:\mmpro\drivers\sgcdm.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:


DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.sys /r:1 c:\mouse9\mouse.sys
rem STACKS=9,256

Maybe this will help you configuer your system.  I am sure you will have
to change the parameters of the drivers for your system, but it may
help.  Several lines are rem out as I have been playing with the system
and do not want to loose the data..  The exclude A000-C7FF and  xst=C000
are for the Speedstar 24x vidio board in my system..

All seems to work well with this setup and no crashes or lock-ups..
Good luck..


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From: MATT PETERSON                          Number: 3445
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/16/93  9:14a
Subj: Mitsumi LU005 CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I was wondering if someone out there could tell me if it is a good deal
to get a Mitsumi LU005 Internal ISA CD-ROM drive for $225, or does
anyone out there have a cheaper source?  Or is that a good deal.

Im wondering because im planning on purchasing BSD/386 (UNIX) for BSDI,
and you have to install it from either a SCSI CDROM or a Mitsumi LU005
[the only ISA drive they support], and if you buy the CDROM drive with
the software, they will sell it to you for $225.

Thanx
 Matthew Peterson
 [e-mail]


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From: PIERRE DU PREEZ                        Number: 3446
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 08/13/93 10:34p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jerry
 JM>  I have a hardly used (in new condition) NEC CDR-35 external
 JM> CD-ROM drive for sale. The complete package contains an NEC
 JM> interface card and cable, all original manuals, and software
 JM> drivers.  For the price of $140.00 (negotiable) I will
 JM> guarantee against DOA and ship it to your door. If you are
 JM> intersted, please reply via this echo.
I will take it if you receive this in time. Hope so......
Possible to give me your voice number.
 Pierre

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3447
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/16/93  8:31a
Subj: 7th Guest $40                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

For a limited time 7th Guest $40 plus shipping. ($3 US, $6 international).
We also have many other specials. If you are interested be in our mailing list,
send your information via fax or e-mail to:

GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628 1-206-473-1634 FAX [phone] FAX
Fido: 1:138/116 or 1:138/120

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3448
  To: MARK SMITH                               Date: 08/16/93  8:35a
Subj: Re: Walnut Creek Releases               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> IA> Also CICA Windows will be updated next week.
> Care to send this one to me in Australia as well...???? I would also like
> this one too...
Hi Mark,
COD is only available within USA. However, we do take Australian personal
checks. TTYL

Groupware

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3449
  To: MARK SMITH                               Date: 08/16/93  8:37a
Subj: Re: Pagemaker 5.0                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Anyone got Pagemaker 5.0 on CD...??? if so how much...???
It is not available on CD as far as know. (I was touring the plant where they
do Aldus manuals and disk dublications). Maybe in the near future. There is
only one CD-ROM product available from Aldus for only their internal use. TTYL

GroupWare

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From: LOUIS SOKOL                            Number: 3450
  To: HERB SCHERKER                            Date: 08/17/93  8:34a
Subj: Disks                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send me a catalog of your CDs.

  JET Computer Services
  3350 Highway 6, Suite 563
  Sugar Land, TX 77478

Thanks!
* SPITFIRE v3.3
* Database Connections BBS * Supporting dBASE, Clipper, and More!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3451
  To: JAMES HOGUE                              Date: 08/17/93 10:13a
Subj: X Movie Review CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks, James, for *both* remarks. I've re-sent the BB3 review to Lee  just in
case her node dropped the packet.
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 3452
  To: EVERYBODY                                Date: 08/16/93 10:45p
Subj: -=- The Storage Specialists -=-         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    -=- CD ROM DRIVES -=-

 Model      Speed        Price         -=- The Storage Specialists -=-
 ==============================           -=- 9400 W.51st Avenue -=-
 TOSHIBA XM-3401                           -=- Arvada, CO 80002 -=-
 Internal   200MS        500.00
 External   200MS        600.00                -=- To Order -=-
                                            -=- 1.800.224.5150 -=-
 TEAC CD-50                             -=- 24 Hrs/365 Days A Year -=-
 Internal   270MS        400.00
 External   270MS        500.00        -=- Tech Support/Price List -=-
                                           -=- 1.303.940.1012 -=-
 MITSUMI                                   -=- Mon-Fri 9:00am-5:30pm -=-
 Internal   350MS        195.00
                                      -=- We Accept Visa/Mastercard -=-
                                       -=- Personal/Company Checks -=-
                                      -=- Money Order/Cashiers Check -=-

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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 3453
  To: BUNNY MCELWEE                            Date: 08/17/93  8:54a
Subj: Distributors wanted???                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (15 Aug 93) Bunny Mcelwee wrote to Paul Sedillo...

 BM>     Hi I saw a message that you were looking for distributors, but I
 BM> can't seem to find the original...SO, anyways, here's my address and
 BM> all as I am interested in what you have to offer...Thanks and hope to
 BM> hear from you soon.
 BM>

Here is where we can be reached:

-=- The Storage Specialists
-=- 9400 W. 51st Avenue
-=- Arvada, CO 80002
-=-
-=- Orders Only:
-=- 1.800.224.5150
-=-
-=- Tech Support/Current Price List
-=- 303.940.1012

I need to recieve a letter from you, indicating what you do.
Also, I need a current copy of your State Tax ID for re-seller purposes.
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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 3454
  To: STEVE WINTER                             Date: 08/17/93  9:18a
Subj: Don't be tricked!!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (15 Aug 93) Steve Winter wrote to All...

 SW> Don't be tricked by ficticious prices that appear amazingly low,
 SW> BUT have shipping/handling charges and credit card charges added on.
 SW>
 SW> For example, what if someone takes the modem that I sell for $169 and
 SW> then advertises it as $165 and then at the bottom have a $10 shipping
 SW> and handling charge and $4.00 credit card charge??
 SW> You would actually be paying $179 instead of $169 !!!
 SW>
 SW> Don't encourage these "low ball" techniques of deceptive advertising.
 SW> Add up the TOTAL COST to you to have the product in your hand.
 SW> (also consider just *who* you want having your credit card info, eh??)
 SW>

I would definatly conqure! Some vendors do not realize that by
setting "low ball" prices, they are only hurting themselves.
They are in it for the short term, quick buck. I am glad to see
that you and your company do not support, or practice these
tactics.

Paul Sedillo
The Storage Specialists
9400 W. 5150 Avenue
Arvada, CO 80002
303.940.1012
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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 3455
  To: LEN GLADSTONE                            Date: 08/15/93  9:04a
Subj: Test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LG> TESTING MY INEPTITUDE WITH AN OFFLINE MAIL READER

Aside from all caps, you look pretty ept to me <g>

 * SLMR 2.1a * Fortysomthing -- confused and lost.


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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 3456
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/15/93  7:11p
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ> Does ANYONE recall reading my review of Busty Babes Release 3.0?? If not, I
BJ> recreate it and re-post.

Yup. Even have a copy of your review stored away. <g>

 * SLMR 2.1a * Cana-DOS: "Yer sure, eh?" [O]k, eh! [N]o way! [B]eauty!


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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3457
  To: DAVID NAFFIS                             Date: 08/16/93  7:13a
Subj: Sound Sample CD-ROM Disc                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->        You should get Creative Sounds from creative labs. It has hund
->  .WAV, .MOD, and more; both songs and sound effects.
Hey, anyway I can get it other than C.L.?
It 'sounds' interesting :)

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3458
  To: ART BREAULT                              Date: 08/16/93  7:54a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Are you accessing the cd rom through a dma channel or a software
-> actuation. My cd rom had to go to software access due to the fact I c
-> not convince the computer to accept E drive when I used dma access. N
-> matter what I did it thought D. This conflicted with a hard drive. I
-> using extention 2.3. I software actuation then the scsi interface sho
-> not be a problem. I believe though that I to was told that cd roms we
-> interface sensitive.
One of the lines that initializes the device driver stes the drive
letter.
I'm not sure which it is, but the manual should say. Mine automatically
went to D too, and I had to set the line to make it E.
The MSCDEX.exe file has it. set /l:E I think, not sure now.

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 3459
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 08/17/93  7:21a
Subj: RE: SegaCD's                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>I am sending out $12.90 tomorrow.  YOu could send those cd's priority
>mail pack from the post office for $2.90.  If you have some sort of
>brochure from the segacd about more cd+g's then, let me know

Sounds good,as soon as I recieve it with your address I'll ship them out.I'll
look and see if I have any brochures on the CD+G's and if I do I'll ship it
with the package.

Thanks Again,

                                     Diana

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3460
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/17/93  3:12p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>>>    Is that busty babes 3.0?

BO>Yes, version 1.0 volume 3.0 ! Interested, give us a call at the above
BO>number and we'll be happy to help you out.

No, volume 1, version 3.

 * SLMR 2.1 * Give me liberty or give me death.

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3461
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/17/93  3:16p
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>TD>On July 20th, I was arrested and all my BBS equipment was seized. If

MS>Let us in on your situation . . . what are the details???  In what
MS>state do you live?

He lives in Oklahoma and that probably explains the situation.

 * SLMR 2.1 * Give me liberty or give me death.

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3462
  To: LEN GLADSTONE                            Date: 08/17/93  3:20p
Subj: Test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LG>TESTING MY INEPTITUDE WITH AN OFFLINE MAIL READER

You are inept.

 * SLMR 2.1 * Don't blame the tool for the murderer's work.

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From: TROY JOHNSON                           Number: 3463
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 08/17/93  6:09p
Subj: Flatbed Scanner                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

VS>-> I have a Epson GS-600 (ES-600C), color flatbed scanner for sale.
  >->
  >-> It is about three months old, I am selling it because someone donated
  >-> a HPIIC and no longer need it for the board!
  >->
  >-> I will let it go for best offer over $550.00 comes with the parrallel
  >-> interface card and all docs and cables..
  >->
  >-> Call me voice at 702-459-8862 after 4P.M. P.S.T. for more details
  >->
  >-> Troy Johnson
  >->
  >-> --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0109]
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  >->
  >Will that bad boy work on amiga?


I am not sure, it has a parrallal interface, you would have to check on
software for the unit.

Troy
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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 3464
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 08/16/93  1:29p
Subj: Re: Create DOS Multimedia               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

   > TEMPRA VideoEdit AND MultiMedia Authoring Software (DOS)
   > Tempra PRO- Photorealistic image editor & high-end 24bit paint pkg.
   > Tempra TURBO ANIMATOR- 32-bit accelerator, animation editor


 AG>      Since you have given no indication (other than the "inflated retail")
 AG> as to your cost on this disc, and have not indicated that it is "used" or
 AG> "new", and have not even indicated what you would like

   >
Arnie:
It's open but comes with all registration cards, so it's more or less "new".
It's on floppys, not CDs- the ad is in this section because it's an authoring
system that can be used to CREATE multimedia for distribution on CD.
I will consider all offers over $200.
-Bob


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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 3465
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/17/93  6:50p
Subj: 2 ROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Al,
     I am interested in U.S History and the terrorist CD.  Give me a call at
[phone].  Thanks.


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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 3466
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93  7:00p
Subj: Multimedia Items For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi,
     I have a slightly used Mitsumi CD-ROM drive (MPC compatible) for sale with
a SoundBlaster Pro card including MIDI connections and the following disks:
        The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
        1992 Guinness Disk of Records: Multimedia Version
        Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume I
        The Software Jukebox: Home and Entertainment Edition
        VGA Spectrum
        Original Shareware 1992
        MPC Wizard with Media Clips
        Introduction to Nautilus
        Phoenix Shareware CD: Version 2.0
        Sample This!
        The Future is Now!

     All of these hook up to make a great multimedia system.
        MAKE ANY REASONABLE OFFERS!  If interested in any or all of the above
call me at [phone] or leave a message here.
                                                        Thanks!!


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From: JIM REED                               Number: 3467
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93  6:46p
Subj: Mitsumi Audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi All;
        Could one of you techies out there help me with a minor nagginy
        problem.  I play my cd as an audio, using PLAYCD,  whenever I'm
        not using it for a ROM drive and it works except whenever I
        start an UPLOAD it stops.  What makes this so confusing is that
        it just keeps right on trucking when I download leading me to
        believe that there's no interupt conflict.  This is the only
        time I have problems with it.  It's a Mitsumi internal using the
        latest drivers.  I use telix on com 1, with a USR 14.4, and
        either Zmodem or HSlink.
                        Thanks
                                /JIM/

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 3468
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/17/93  9:57p
Subj: Disk                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <08-15-93 23:21> Pat Rickerson wrote:

PR>> I have Busty Babes 1.0 where can I sell it for that price?
PR>> Sure would like to know! I would even sell it for less!

Ask Boris O, he is in this echo--He is the champ of BB Rel 1.0
Hope you do well too !

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: STEVE HECKER                           Number: 3469
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/18/93 12:02a
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >
 > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
 > From Original 35mm Slides


        Blaine, pardon me for asking, but why would anyone pay for a disk
filled with gifs of senior citizens ? :-)

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3470
  To: MING CHAN                                Date: 08/17/93  9:43p
Subj: NIGHTOWL                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MC> Do you known of or have you encountered any problems with such adult
 MC> CD-ROM being shipped across the border?

I have generally not had any trouble except once or twice.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3471
  To: BRIAN MILLER                             Date: 08/17/93  9:49p
Subj: Walnut Creek Releases                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> We now have Giga Games in stock!..

 BM> How much for this cd?
We have it in stock for $19.95. 615-339-0235 to order.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3472
  To: STEVE GERWECK                            Date: 08/17/93  9:51p
Subj: BB                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SG> What are your prices on the three versions of Busty Babes?

We have the new version 3 in stock for $22.95 on special this week.
615-339-0235 or 800-547-7817 to order.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3473
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 08/17/93  9:54p
Subj: CD-ROMs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 RD> Mike,
 RD>      I am interested in buying the latest versions of GREAT CD-Roms.
 RD> I have a particular interest in GR8 shareware
 RD> collections with particular reference to
 RD> subscription CDs such as Walnut Creek do with
 RD> Simtel-20, CICA-Windows and the like.  Any info you
 RD> have may net you a regular customer, same goes for
 RD> anyone else reading this, Good CD-Roms are in short
 RD> supply in Finland <grin>.

We sell most of the latest cds out such as So Mucb Shareware 3, Software Vault
2, Nightowl 9, Simtel, CD Winbox.  Prices are herre in the echo under our ad
for PCJ.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3474
  To: JEREMY NINO                              Date: 08/17/93  9:57p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JN> Alright!  Gittem BUB!!!
 JN> ---
That would be Gittem Lady! <g>

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3475
  To: PETE CRESSWELL                           Date: 08/17/93  9:58p
Subj: MULTI VS SINGLE PLAYERS                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PC> 1)  If a six-platter changer costs $750 and single-
 PC> platter players can be had for $150 each ( 6 * 150
 PC> = $900) couldn't one argue for six standalone
 PC> players because of:

What drives can you get that are daisy chainable and allow all 6 to be hooked
up to one machine for $150 each?

 PC> - Faster access: it's gotta take *some* time to
 PC> swap to another platter even     if nobody else is
 PC> using the one currently mounted.

Only a few seconds and if you use a copy to hard drive utility, chances of two
wanting the same thing are rare.  Pioneers are ok for like up to a 10 node
system, but not for the larger ones.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 3476
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93 10:01p
Subj: RED HOT CDROM Specials                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

               PCJ "Hot" WEEKLY SPECIALS 8/17 - 8/24

BattleChess................$ 22.95 PC Sig 12.................... 19.95
Busty Babes v3.0............ 22.95 Prophone '93 Business........ 24.95
Color Magic/Women of Venus.. 29.95 Prophone '92 3 CD Set........ 31.95
History of Jazz............. 25.95 Seventh Guest (No Video)..... 44.95
MacMillan Dictionary 4 Kids. 26.95 Space + Dinosaur Adventure... 48.95
PC Sig 11................... 18.95 Storm 1-3 + Hot Pix 2-5..... 139.95
Digital Dreams/Southern Beauties/Amatuer Models................  69.95
Mystique of Orient/Rimfire/Dirty Talk/Seedy Rom Movie.......... 139.95

          Orders - 800-547-7817 or 615-339-0235 (24 Hours)

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From: RON MITCHELL                           Number: 3477
  To: ART BREAULT                              Date: 08/17/93 10:31p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 AB> Are you accessing the cd rom through a dma channel or a software
 AB> actuation. My cd rom had to go to software access due to the fact I could
 AB> not convince the computer to accept E drive when I used dma access. No

I've tried both.  I can read the Shareware Bonanza set and so far nothing else.
 I picked up Night Owl 7 in a trade today, and can't even read it.

 AB> matter what I did it thought D. This conflicted with a hard drive. I am
 AB> using extention 2.3. I software actuation then the scsi interface should
 AB> not be a problem. I believe though that I to was told that cd roms were
 AB> interface sensitive.

I've been told  recently that the Mitsumi is a proprietary form of SCSI and
that with the right driver and hardware adapter(i.e. a 50 to 40 pin adapter)
that I can run the drive off of my SCSI host.  Have you heard if this is true.

Also is it possible to hook my 8 bit Mitsumi to a 16 bit Mitsumi interface?
If so, where would I get a 16 bit interface?

                                         Ron

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From: DOUG SNELL                             Number: 3478
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/17/93  4:32p
Subj: BB3 Review                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bob,
    I want to thank you for taking the time and patience to review BB3. Your
review is very well written and has convinced me to order it.

                            Thanks
                                Doug

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 3479
  To: ISRAEL GOMBERG                           Date: 08/17/93  7:13p
Subj: John W. Campbell's been dead since 1971  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     Maybe they'll get around to having a JWC stamp one of these years

     Campbell was the father of modern Science Fiction.

     He edited Astounding/Analog from 1938-1971.

     But Isaac Asimov will probably have a stamp first.

     Campbell was trained as an engineer.

     He would have understood CD-ROMs.

     [Bet you thought I was posting out of topic!]

     *:o)


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From: CHAD STUDY                             Number: 3480
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/16/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On Thu 12-Aug-1993  7:13a, Ismail Arslangiray wrote:
IA> Hi,
IA> Also within two weeks we are publishing an Amiga disk in ISO-9660 format
IA> for BBS Systems. TTYL
IA>
IA> GroupWAre

  Allright!  The responce I have been looking for ( Allthough I thank the
generous people who were trying to help me out ( and make a buck heheheh.. ) )

Are these files going to be orginized like Pier 2 or Night Owl 9 ?
Or at least will every file have a description?
I need a good Amiga CD for my BBS.

Any input would be greatly appreciated!

Thanx in advance!

Chad

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From: CHRIS BOURNE                           Number: 3481
  To: BOB HALL                                 Date: 08/17/93  8:55p
Subj: CSS CD PRICE LIST                       Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93  7:38p                       Private: No

 > There is a ten limit on ads in this echo.

Ten products? ten days? ???

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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 3482
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/17/93  1:30p
Subj: Busty babes, before 3                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PR> Have Busty #1, know any one that wants to buy it?
 PR>                     Pat Rickerson
 PR>                     512-939-7095

Sure do, me. How much you asking? If its Ver.#1 release#1 that is. You can tell
by if its lacking the Text directorys. -Thank
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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 3483
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/17/93  1:46p
Subj: X Movie Review CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BJ> Does ANYONE recall reading my review of Busty Babes Release 3.0??
 BJ> If not, I'll recreate it and re-post.

Sure do. Read it & saved it to disk. Keep it up.... :-)
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From: JOEY RATZSCH                           Number: 3484
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/16/93  4:03p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TB> Sorry they are gone.  If you want to send me your phone number I'll
 TB> call you if I get any more.

[phone], live Wire BBS, 14400. (v.32bis of course!)

Joey


... Take egotism out, and you castrate the benefactors.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: TONY MACE                              Number: 3485
  To: ROEL SARCENO                             Date: 08/17/93  6:43p
Subj: New Idea !                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Roel!

Saturday August 14 1993 22:47, Roel Sarceno wrote to All:

 RS> Hi All,

 RS> Here's an idea.  What about if all or several CD ROM distributors
 RS> will send a file (price list) to a certain node.  For this example
 RS> we will assume a node address of 1:9999/9999.  Node 1:999/9999 will

I would be willing....  I have the space and the time.....

Tony

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From: PETER RALLIS                           Number: 3486
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 08/16/93  4:12a
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'll offer $48.00 prepaid including shipping.

peter...

... You paid how much for that...!
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From: MIKE GLADDEN                           Number: 3487
  To: JOEY RATZSCH                             Date: 08/16/93  9:44p
Subj: Re: 7th guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JR> I would like to trade some CD-ROM disks for a copy of 7th guest.
 JR> If intereseted, drop me a line and you can see whats avalible.  If you
 JR> want to buy them, I am also selling them.
 JR> Later
 JR> Joey

I might be willing to trade.  I'm looking for Adult oriented stuff, some sort
of CD which can aid in identifying prescription drugs, and the US Street Atlas.

MikeG

... File not found, I'll load something *I* think is interesting. ___ Blue
Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: JIM MEINHARDT                          Number: 3488
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93 10:29p
Subj: Billboard CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     I am looking for a CD relating to Billboard Magazine.  I know it's
out there cause I saw it a magazine a while back.  Would like to buy
it if it's still available.
                                               Thanks, Jim



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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 3489
  To: KIRK REEVES                              Date: 08/18/93  6:39a
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AJ> I have one ... and even more...it's the tope of the line external model.
AJ> I can let it go for $265.00.  Let me know soon, Either way!
KR>
KR> I am interested.  Can you tell me what the access time is and track seek?

The access time is 380ms with a 150kb transfer rate.

I still have it, but have plenty of inquiries.  I will go to the first one
with the bucks.

Al James

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From: MICHAEL MULCAHY                        Number: 3490
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/18/93  3:46p
Subj: Another Bust                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

FYI:

---------------
Update on The Oklahoma Information Exchange BBS:

As most are aware, the OIE BBS was seized in a raid by Oklahoma City
Police Department on July 20th. Until formal charges were filed, all
decisions on the future of the BBS were delayed.

On Aug 13th, the Oklahoma County District Attorney's office finally filed
felony charges. They were:

    2 felony counts of selling obscene CD-Roms
    1 felony count of possessing obscene CD-Roms
    1 felony count of trafficking obscene material by electronic means.

Of the 16 CD that were on the BBS, the 4 that were actually listed as
obscene in the felony filing were:

            Busty Babes Vol 1
            Storm 2
            For Adults Only (FAO) 2
            For Adults Only (FAO) 3


That last count is the kicker. Since the DA has decided that the BBS
itself was in violation of laws, there seems little doubt that the OIE BBS
equipment will not be returned prior to a long drawn out legal fight.

Although I have every intention of filing whatever civil suites are
necessary to get the equipment returned, I truly believe there will not be
a quick return of OIE.

Tony
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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 3491
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93  6:26p
Subj: Busty Babes 1.0                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a copy of the "BUSTY BABES" Volume 1, Release 1.0
thats in excellent condition (used 3 or 4 times) that I
would like to sell. If you are interested, leave your
name,an offer, and how you can be reached.


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3492
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93  7:44a
Subj: New Echo - Multimedia                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have started a new echo area called MULTIMEDIA
I will do the initial feeding, if you like to get linked, please send a net
mail and I will start feeding your node.

MULTIMEDIA Echo Coverage
------------------------
CD-ROM Players
CD-ROM Titles (Including adult)
Sound Cards
Multimedia Authoring Systems
Replication
Industry News Press Releases
and any other MultiMedia related topics

This echo also can be ported to any other sister nets and RIME.

Ismail Arslangiray
1:138/116 or 1:138/120

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 3493
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/16/93  6:44p
Subj:  BUSTY BABES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Bob!

Sunday August 15 1993, Bob Jackson writes to Lee Noga:

 BJ> Thanks for the data, Lee. There's a saying here in The Lone Star State
 BJ> that the only reason we don't fall into the Gulf of Mexico is because
 BJ> Oklahoma sucks.

<ROFL>


... Do you swear to tell the truth? Who me? I'm a liberal! - Clinton

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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 3494
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93 11:51p
Subj: Publish It! 3.0 for Windows             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Publish It! for Windows, version 3.0. Special CD-ROM version includes Adobe
Type manager, over 300 sample layouts, more than 3000 high resolution clip art
images, and more. Numerous "Best Buy" awards. This is not version 2.0
advertised in this echo for 29.95, but the latest Windows version. Will
consider trading for other titles or best cash offer.

318-988-1404 voice mail
318-981-6613 fax


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3495
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/18/93  7:34a
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Re-sent the review addressed to you, Lee. Of course you're right. The
"graininess" is evident only in the thumbnail images - not the full-sized
ones. Looking forward to the September releases!
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: WILLIAM E GOSSETT                      Number: 3496
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/17/93  8:45p
Subj: 2 ROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I have a couple of CD's that I am willing to trade or
 > sell.

 >                       U.S. History on CD-Rom
 >                       Terrorist Group Profiles on CD-
 > ROM
 how much each?
 >                       Microsoft Bookshelf (CD-ROM)


 > Give me an offer or tell me what you have to trade.


 > --- ProBoard v1.31 [Reg]
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 > (1:279/7)

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From: SHANE HEDRICK                          Number: 3497
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/18/93  4:10p
Subj: Re: Sound Sample CD-ROM Disc            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

}}}}}} On 08-16-93  07:13 HENRY said to DAVID {{{{{{
 ->        You should get Creative Sounds from creative labs. It has hund
 ->  .WAV, .MOD, and more; both songs and sound effects.
 HP> Hey, anyway I can get it other than C.L.?
 HP> It 'sounds' interesting :)

     I have it for sale or trade, make an offer. obo.


... She won't last forever, so why buy her a diamond?
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From: LARRY HEATH                            Number: 3498
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 08/18/93 10:10p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Rebel to Jim Reed <=-

 Re> @ORIGIN :Southern Pride BBS 1:151/151
 N -> CK> WT> Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't
 -> CK> WT> seem to work with QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and
 -> CK> WT> should be able to be moved around by QEMM.  Perplexed
 -> CK> WT> beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would
 -> CK> WT> help.

I had a bit of problem with the Mitsumi drive after I changed to DOS 6.0
the problem was that I was using an older version of mscdex.exe file, thats
loaded in your Autoexec.bat file. I had ver 2.21 in the system and it worked
fine, till I changed to DOS 6.0. Then the drive wouldn't work, it seemed
like all the files loaded alright but nothing worked.
When I went to the mscdex.exe file ver 2.22 the Mitsumi came back to life.
Just type mscdex at the C:> prompt and the system will display the version
if any that is loaded.
                                        Later Larry


... File not found, I'll load something *I* think is interesting.
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From: LARRY HEATH                            Number: 3499
  To: MATT PETERSON                            Date: 08/18/93 10:31p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi LU005 CDROM                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Matt Peterson to All <=-

 MP> I was wondering if someone out there could tell me if it is a good
 MP> deal to get a Mitsumi LU005 Internal ISA CD-ROM drive for $225, or does
 MP> anyone out there have a cheaper source?  Or is that a good deal.

 MP> Thanx
 MP> Matthew Peterson
 MP> [e-mail]

Hi Matt,
  While I can't find the exact stock number on the Mitsumi, I got one from
Comsumer's Club Intermational for $195 for the whole kit.
There number is 216-225-6759
                                      Later Larry

... * Hey! Don't pick up that pho╫»╗Æßë╜├╥τ
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From: ROBERT MCGEHEE                         Number: 3500
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/18/93 12:51p
Subj: Cd Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey, I'm looking for a CD-Rom drive, used or new.  If anyone is selling
one then write me a message or send me a catalog.  The CD drive needs
to fit Multi-Media requirements and needs to have Sound Blaster
compatability.  My address:


        Robert McGehee
        251 Arapaho Lane
        Madison, MS
        39110-9193

So if you have any, send my a catalog.

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From: BEN BARTON                             Number: 3501
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/18/93  1:29p
Subj: CD-ROMs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC>
DC>We sell most of the latest cds out such as So Mucb Shareware 3, Sof
DC>2, Nightowl 9, Simtel, CD Winbox.  Prices are herre in the echo und
DC>for PCJ.

Doug,
Can you give me some more info on the CD Winbox?  Price, types of files,
etc.

Thanks,
Ben


 * Orator V1.12  *  [Windows Qwk Reader Unregistered Evaluation Copy]


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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 3502
  To: PETER RALLIS                             Date: 08/18/93  4:36p
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Aug 16 04:12>, Peter Rallis of 1:128/13 writes:

 PR> peter...

Sorry Peter, it's sold.
Michael Sells

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From: CRAIG MOSER                            Number: 3503
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93  9:57p
Subj: Mac CD-ROMS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the following Macintosh (HFS) cd-roms for sale or trade:

BBS in a Box VII  - Macintosh shareware cdrom
BBS in a Box VIII - Macintosh shareware cdrom
Giga-ROM v3 - Macintosh shareware cdrom
Aesopolis - the animated, interactive world of Aesops fables (great)!

Will consider all offers (mac, adult, clipart, etc)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3504
  To: CARL SCHULTZ                             Date: 08/17/93  1:14a
Subj: Cd price list 1/2                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CS>do you have DUNE or DUNE 2? (CD)

Not yet.  Soon hopefully!

.\\ike

---
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3505
  To: KIRK REEVES                              Date: 08/17/93  1:15a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KR> MS> 1....................37.00
KR> MS>  Animation Fantasies 1 or 2....29.00    Porkware 2
KR> MS> (New!).............37.00
KR> MS>  Asian Ladies..................34.50    Private

KR>I am interested in the two disks above.  How far are you from Portland, OR?
KR>I would like to visit your shop.

We're in Yakima, about 200 miles to the northeast.  Feel free to stop by
any time at 1406 S 25th Ave, just south of Montgomery Wards.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3506
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 08/17/93  1:18a
Subj: Discs                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JS> IA> CD PowerBox $12
JS> IA> CD Winbox   $12
JS> IA> Night Owl's v.9 $21
JS> IA> So Much Shareware III $21

JS>Whats would the total be on these with your generous %5 discount? ;-)

$62.70 + s/h.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3507
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 08/17/93  1:18a
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>  I have a copy of Precision Mapping that I don't need, (already have the
MS>disc), that I will be willing to part with. This is the complete map of the
U
MS>that allows you to zoom all the way down to the street you are looking for.
MS>Search by area code, city name, street name, and zip code. The disc cost
$88.
MS>to $120 new depending on your source. I will consider all trade offers or
cas

Michael,

If you want, you can send this in to S&S for a free upgrade to version
1.5b.  It has an improved search utility that now includes a whole list of
cities, and also has an online tutorial, which explains a lot of the
features that were not included in version 1.2.  There were also a few
bug fixes.  If interested, send to:  S & S Publishing * PO Box 552
Lemont, IL 60439, and request the free upgrade.

Hope this helps.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3508
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/17/93  1:18a
Subj: CD-Rom Dupes                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>------------------------------------------------------------------------
JL>               SHAREWARE CD-ROM DUPLICATION COMPARISONS
JL>------------------------------------------------------------------------
JL>          Using Bob Neal's "CD-ROM DUPLICATE ANALYZER" v 1.0


You copycat!  8)  I hope you don't get as much griping and complaining
as I got when I posted these!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3509
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93  1:18a
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING UPDATE!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD
  ---------------------------------------------------------------------
                            >>> UPDATE! <<<

TITLE:  Precision Mapping v 1.5b

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
UPDATE:  Precision Mapping version 1.5b is now available!  Improvements
over version 1.2 include a much improved city and landmark search
function, along with an online tutorial!  A few minor keyboard control
bugs have also been fixed, along with a few additional features.  This is
the latest release of this fantastic mapping system, and is now even more
awesome, with improved performance and new features!  Note: For those who
have already purchased version 1.2, you may trade it in for a free upgrade
to version 1.5b.  Please contact us at 509-457-2892 for more info.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

DESCRIPTION:  A complete, detailed map of the United States, with search,
edit, draw, and print capabilities.  ZOOM in on any city, right down to
the zip code, area code, or even street!  Look up addresses, measure
distances, plan travel routes, print laser-quality maps, and clip images
for import to other programs!  All in a user-friendly environment!

SPECIAL FEATURES:  Full CAD features with draw, edit, and control over
all presentation aspects, including text, alignment, color, line width,
etc.  OUTPUT to file (raster or vector), screen, dot matrix printer,
laser printer, or HPGL plotter.  DYNAMIC ZOOM in/out/all.  Window,
pan, scale, to any address, city, zip, or area code.  CLIP all or any
part of an image to a .PCX file for import into your favorite word
processor or DTP program.

FREEBIE:  Includes the latest edition of the American Business Phonebook
with over 10 million business listings, absolutely FREE!

REQUIREMENTS:  EGA or higher monitor, DOS 4.0+, 550K free RAM, 2MB of
expanded memory, 10MB of (temporary) hard drive space, and any ISO9660
CD-ROM drive.  Mouse recommended.

PRICE:  $88

Mike sez . . .
"If you think Street Atlas was great, wait til you see this one!  Better,
more elaborate features, and it runs under plain ol' DOS!  This mapping
program even has "Shannon Road", which is a little dirt road my dad and
uncles carved out when they planted their apple orchard.  How's that for
thoroughness!"

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3510
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93  1:18a
Subj: BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

***************************************************************************
            NEW ADULT CD'S AVAILABLE FROM STARVECTOR . . . .
***************************************************************************

 Busty Babes 3.0...............33.00    After Dark Trilogy (movies)...45.00
 All Beauties..................36.00    Southern Beauties.............35.00
 Amateur Models................35.00    Dirty Talk (movie)............59.00
 Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00    Girls of Vivid 1 or 2.........45.00

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3511
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93  1:19a
Subj: CD PACKAGE DEALS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                       +-------------------------+
  CHECK                |   SPECIAL BONUS OFFER   |     GET A FULL 650MB
                       +-------------------------+     OF RECENT SHAREWARE
     THIS              |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0    |     FOR
                       |     REVISED EDITION     |          ONLY
        OUT !!         |    SHAREWARE CD ONLY    |
                       |  $4.00  W/ PURCHASE OF  |         4   BUCKS!
           ----------> |    ANY PACKAGE DEAL!    |         ----------
                       +-------------------------+

-------------[ CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS ]------------------------------------

1. Night Owl 7.0     2. Storm 1     3. Southern Beauties     4. Hot Pix 3
   Night Owl 8.0        Storm 2        All Beauties             Hot Pix 4
   Night Owl 9.0        Storm 3        Amateur Models           Hot Pix 5
   -------------        -------        --------------           ---------
   $69                  $69            $95                      $85


       5. Night Owl 8.0     6. Night Owl 9     7. All Beauties
          Night Owl 9.0        Pier 2             Southern Beauties
          -------------        ------             -----------------
          $55                  $59                $65


8. Up All Night            9. Empire Clipart             10. Pier 2
   Super CD 2                 Clipart Heaven                 SW Vault 2
   So Much Shareware 3        Encyclopedia of Clipart        SW Studio 2
   -------------------        -----------------------        -----------
   $63                        $59                            $65


11. CD Winbox      12. House of Games     13. Busty Babes     14. Storm 2
    Windows 93         Game Arena             Ecstasy             Storm 3
    ----------         ----------             -------             -------
    $44                $35                    $55                 $49


15. Fantazia Fonts         16. Porkware 1       17. Compton's Interactive
    Fontmaster 2               Porkware 2           U.S. Atlas MPC
    Too Many Typefonts         All Beauties         Learning Adventure
    ------------------         ------------         ------------------
    $49                        $89                  $129


PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .

               WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3512
  To: STEVE GERWECK                            Date: 08/18/93 12:00a
Subj: SOME NEW ADULT CD'S!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SG> MS> Busty Babes 3.0...............33.00

SG>You released a message on 8/5 that you were selling BB 3 for $25.  What
SG>happened???

Oops, you're right.  I had the price from Busty 2.0 attached to release
3.0.  Thanks Steve . . . the correct price is $25.00.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3513
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 08/17/93  6:29a
Subj: Re: Sound Sample CD-ROM D               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->      I don't yet know the contents of this disc, but SHAREWARE STUDIO
-> is going to press this week, and should contain a good bit of what yo
-> looking for.
->
->      The Shareware Studio series is published by
->
->           DATA EXPRESS, INC.
->           6799 Windfaire Drive
->           Norcross, GA 30093
->
->           [phone]
->
->      Most of the vendors who advertise in this Net will probably have
-> for sale within a few weeks.
->
->      I have been very satisfied with the previous two discs in the se
-> and some of my own MIDI files have been included on the third volume.
Okay! Keep me posted :)

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3514
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 08/17/93  6:33a
Subj: Chestnut's Sound Sensatio               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Chestnut: Sound Sensations CD-ROM
->
-> Unfortunately, the disc is comprised mostly of files dating from 1991
-> earlier.  MIDI support is almost non-existant, and the disc organizat
-> awful.
->
-> Each program appears on the disc twice, in zipped and unzipped format
-> There are thousands of sub-directories on the disc, as each program i
-> own sub-directory.  The disc, in my humble opinion, is a waste of tim
Yeah, I mostly wanted MIDI files,,, I have a couple .mod players and an
.iff converter.
Why are they zipped and regular? Trying to pitifully fill the disc?

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3515
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 08/18/93  7:01a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> I'm still looking for a used copy of 7th Guest for $35 shipped.  If it's
> still legal to play computer games, of course.
Hi Carlos,
We do have it for $40 new.

GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX

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From: BRAD SCHNEIDER                         Number: 3516
  To: HARRY WHEAT                              Date: 08/17/93 11:18a
Subj: 6 Disk CD-Program                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Well, I run a Pioneer 6Disk changer on my system using a cdrom door called
rombrain. I would deffinately recommend it. I have it on request - 1:2605/617 -
FREQ ROMBRAIN and BRAINEX.


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From: THE BLACK SOUL                         Number: 3517
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/17/93  6:12p
Subj: Cd-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Could you please send me a catalog of your Cd-Rom List?
   J. Warakomski
   4 GreenWood Ct.
   Somerville, Nj
   08876


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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3518
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93  3:00p
Subj: WANTED: Dealers!!!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

==========>>>>>>  W A N T E D     D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========

  Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers

                   Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
                         Darrel Rivenbark

  Cheapest Prices around !!!!

                                        1-800-865-5354
=================================================================

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3519
  To: ALAN WILLIAMS                            Date: 08/17/93  1:07p
Subj: ADULT TITLES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>-> APPARENTLY THERE ARE MORE THAN DAVE REEDS THAN JUST I

>That may be a bit excessive.....after several years of BBSing I have now
>encountered two other users who have the same name and spelling as I do.

We have a Davie Lee Reed as the Sysop of a local area BBS over this way - not
in FidoNet YET....

>use the same BBS system, obviously one of us has to  alter our name in order
>for both of us to use the system, since only a  single registration is
>permitted per system under a given user name.

True of most software, NOT true of all....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Bigamy: too many wives. Monogamy: not enough wives.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3520
  To: STEVE JONES                              Date: 08/17/93  1:08p
Subj: THE 7TH GUEST AND MIT                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Does SBPRO effectively run a Mitsumi CD-ROM, without needing a separate CD-ROM
>drive host adapter?
>Same question applies to SBPRO ASP/16...

The Mitsumi can NOT be run by the SB Pro ANY MODEL. it can only be run by IT's
OWN card, one ATI sound card, and a Gravis or Galaxy (???) sound card.


 * SLMR 2.1a * AIDS is a virus; Bill Clinton is a punishment from Hell!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3521
  To: HARRY WHEAT                              Date: 08/17/93  1:10p
Subj: 6 DISK CD-ROM CHANGER                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>I am looking for a BBS program that will run a 6 disk Cd-rom changer on a BBS.

Just about ANY DOS-based BBS program should be able to work with a 6-pack
changer - though a BBS program like TBBS with built-in specific support for
CD-ROM drives will work better....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Clinton Cruise Lines - we're taking America for a ride!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3522
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/17/93  1:12p
Subj: MITSUMI                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work with QEMM.

My Mitsumi has worked with QEMM since day one - LOADHIed on the driver part of
the time, MSCDEX always LOADHIed....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Robert Anson Heinlein, RIP, your name IS remembered....

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3523
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 08/18/93 10:43a
Subj: Re: Trade adult CD for Adult            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 15 Aug 93  13:55:00, I heard Max Green shout to Kevin Plummer:

MG>  RB>  hello i have  xxx extreme if your still interested.
MG>  RB>              leave me mail
MG>  RB>                      ROBERT A BIR
MG>
MG>   Hello Robert.  I have Hot Pix Volume #5.  Would consider an
MG>   even trade.  We pick up our own shipping.  If interested
MG>   send you CD, I will do the same when I get your address.
MG>       My address:
MG>           Max Green
MG>           399 Westmeade Dr.
MG>           Gretna, LA. 70056
MG>

I feel you sent this to the WRONG person.

                   .....|<evin

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3524
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/18/93 10:56a
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                  N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0
 ******************************************************************
 *********                                                *********
 ***********           $ 25.00 a Copy !!!               ***********
 *********                                                *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 *********               Ask for Barney                   *********
 ***********           ------------------               ***********
 *********               1-800-638-5757                   *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 *********           We Will NOT be out Sold              *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 ******************************************************************
                  N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0

* Plus shipping and Handling of Course
**

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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 3525
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/17/93 11:01p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500
 > internal cd rom drives
 > for $99.   I have about 20 left.  30 day warranty included.

Terry, are these the ones that need the proprietary controller card ?

Vikki

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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 3526
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/18/93 11:42a
Subj: 2 ROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >                       U.S. History on CD-Rom
 >                       Microsoft Bookshelf (CD-ROM)

I'm interested.
Can you tell me more about the US History one ?

Vikki

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From: REX RODGERS                            Number: 3527
  To: PAUL SWIDER                              Date: 08/13/93  8:56p
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RE: Adult CD's
BY: Paul Swider to Ron Coleman on Tue Aug 10 1993 09:55 pm

 >  On 08-08-93 Ron Coleman wrote to All...
 >
 >  RC> Can someone tell me a good quality Adult Cd that has Gif's and
 >  RC> animations for
 >  RC> a reasonable cost like around $30 to $40 ? Or any one have a used one
 >
 > Ron, How's $12.95 plus $6.00 postage / handling sound ? Call a place called
 > Profit Publishing 1-800-843-7990 and ask for T & A to the Max ($12.95). Whil
 > you are at it ask for their free (with every order) Demo disk. It has a grea
 > CDBENCH program on it, along with a bit of everything else (no X rated on th
 > demo). I saw the ad in the Aug. Computer Shopper and got it. Worth the price
 > Hope this helps. >Paul<
 >
 > ... OFFLINE 1.50  "What if there were no hypothetical situations?"
 >
 > --- Maximus/2 2.01wb
 >  * Origin: The Choice BBS, Las Vegas, NV 702-253-6527 HST DS 16.8k (1:209/71
I also bought one of those disks amd also the Fao colection (3 DISKS) I
recomened all of them!!
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From: DAN HATTERICK                          Number: 3528
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/14/93  8:46p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WT>Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work
WT>with QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved
WT>around by QEMM.  Perplexed beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.
WT>Any ideas would help.
WT>* SPITFIRE v3.3

Yup you need another drink.I have 2 Mitsumis and 2 Hitatchis on the same
computer.They all load high.They all work fine.Im using the non DMA Mitsumi
driver and they are still faster than the Hitatchis.
I switched to Dos 6 and couldnt get much free mem with all my drivers.So I put
the Qemm line in my Config.sys so now its just like running total Qemm except
for Dos commands.  -Dan

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From: JIM ORCHARD                            Number: 3529
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/18/93  6:57p
Subj: multi-speed cd-rom                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a good (new condition) multi-spin cd-rom drive I would
prefer it if it came with a controller also. I have heard that the NEC
drives are the best, unfortunatly also the most expensive. Anyone care
to enlighten me?


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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3530
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 08/18/93 11:20a
Subj: Aussie needs help...                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Patrick!


 PR> Ok, I'm willing.....

 PR>  How to contact me; Internet - [e-mail], or
 PR>  Phone: [phone], or FAX: [phone], or simply reply here!

Okay, Thanks for getting back to me. My FAX Number is 61-46-471-499, VOICE
number at work is 61-46-471-625. Postal address is:

                     P.O. Box 242
                     Campbelltown
                     NSW 2560
                     Australia....

We have a location 45 minutes drive from the heart of Sydney, and we are a
major distributor for a number of BBS networks. both factors combined we
believe we are assured of good turnover.

Regs,

Mark Smith


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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3531
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/18/93 11:23a
Subj: Aussie Needs help...                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Doug!

Sunday August 15 1993 20:26, Doug Carpenter wrote to Mark Smith:

 DC> We have pretty good prices and would be glad to work with you on selling
 DC> CDs in Australia.  Do you have a fax?

Okay, Thanks for getting back to me. My FAX Number is 61-46-471-499, VOICE
number at work is 61-46-471-625. Postal address is:

                     P.O. Box 242
                     Campbelltown
                     NSW 2560
                     Australia....

We have a location 45 minutes drive from the heart of Sydney, and we are a
major distributor for a number of BBS networks. both factors combined we
believe we are assured of good turnover.

Regs,

Mark Smith


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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3532
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/18/93 11:39a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Boris!

Monday August 16 1993 00:57, Boris Osadciw wrote to All:

 BO>  *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
 BO> Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
 BO> Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
 BO> Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
 BO> Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
 BO> Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
 BO> Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
 BO> Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
 BO> Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
 BO>   ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Okay, If you are interested in selling via me in Australia then please contact
me, My FAX Number is 61-46-471-499, VOICE number at work is 61-46-471-625.
Postal address is:

                     P.O. Box 242
                     Campbelltown
                     NSW 2560
                     Australia....

We have a location 45 minutes drive from the heart of Sydney, and we are a
major distributor for a number of BBS networks. both factors combined we
believe we are assured of good turnover.

Regs,

Mark Smith


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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 3533
  To: MATT PETERSON                            Date: 08/18/93  3:40p
Subj: Mitsumi LU005 CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (16 Aug 93) Matt Peterson wrote to All...

 MP> I was wondering if someone out there could tell me if it is a good
 MP> deal
 MP> to get a Mitsumi LU005 Internal ISA CD-ROM drive for $225, or does
 MP> anyone out there have a cheaper source?  Or is that a good deal.

 MP> Thanx
 MP>  Matthew Peterson
 MP>  [e-mail]

We offer that Mitsumi CD-Rom player for $190.00. If you are
interested, please give us a call.

-=- The Storage Specialists
-=- 9400 W. 51st Avenue
-=- Arvada, CO 80002
-=-
-=- Orders Only:
-=- 1.800.224.5150
-=-
-=- Tech Support/Current Price Lists
-=- 1.303.940.1012
-=-
-=- We accept Visa/Mastercard (no service charge)
-=- Money Orders/Cashiers Checks
-=- C.O.D., Personal or Company Checks
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From: RAY LEUNG                              Number: 3534
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 08/18/93  6:52a
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TD> Oklahoma. The BBS had 16 CD Roms, 4 of which were 'adult'. They we
TD>Storm 2 & 3, and Busty Babes.  According to the officers that arres
TD>anything that shows 'penatration' is obscene by State statute.
TD>

I find it so strange that a natural act such as sex (which 99.9% of
humans do) is considered obscene, yet movies like (Friday the 13th,
Texas chainsaw massacre etc) are NOT considered obscene.  Are our
leaders saying that it's ok to go around and hack, slash and kill
people?  Aren't these law makers hippocrates?  They're trying to
ban people from seeing something that they themselves do with their
wives/husbands.  Perhaps someone should do something 'correct' and
put out a CD full of scenes of death (real ones too).

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From: JIM REED                               Number: 3535
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/18/93  6:04p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RE>@ORIGIN :Southern Pride BBS 1:151/151                                N
RE>-> CK> WT> Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't
RE>-> CK> WT> seem to work with QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and
RE>-> CK> WT> should be able to be moved around by QEMM.  Perplexed
RE>-> CK> WT> beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.  Any ideas would
RE>-> CK> WT> help.

RE>Heres my config I run 3 of them with QEMM without a hitch

RE>DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
RE>DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS R:2 RAM ST:M
RE>DOS=HIGH,UMB
RE>SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /E:768 /p DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2
RE>C:\DOS\RAMDRIVE.SYS 1024 /E rem DEVICE=C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.SYS 2048
RE>DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 C:\X00.SYS E b,0,38400 rem
RE>DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\IBMAUX2.SYS /X DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS
/
RE>\DEV\MTMCDD.SYS /D:MSCD001 /P:300 /A:0 /M:2 /T:3 /I:5
DEVICE=c:\qemm\loadhi.
RE>/r:2 \dev2\mtmcds.sys /d:mscd002 /p:348 /a:0 DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2
RE>\DEV2\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD003 /P:340 /A:0

Hi Rebel;
        Thanks for the reply but the original message was from Wes Tapp
        so I'll carbon him on this reply.
                                /JIM/

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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 3536
  To: RON THOMPSON                             Date: 08/18/93 12:37p
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RT>   If you are Computer Works, I just received a catalog in today's
RT> mail.If not, please disregard this message.

I am CoSysOp of Computer Works.  Glad you got your catalog.

                                           Mark
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From: MARK CLARDY                            Number: 3537
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 08/17/93 12:42a
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

VS>->
VS>->   Hey, Vito.  We'll try to get one to you as soon as we can.  Thanks
VS>->  for replying.
VS>->                                                Mark

VS>Please let me know as sson as you get some cd+g's.  My number is
VS>[phone]

  Hmm, sorry Vito, but when I said "get you one", I was  referring to
 a catalog of our CD's, but I will see about a CD+G disk.  Sorry for
 the confusion.

                                                 Mark
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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 3538
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/18/93  1:28p
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PR> If you are interested in Busty Babes Vol#1 I have it! You can
 PR> give me a call at 512-939-9822 or leave a message. It's really my
 PR> husbands but what's his is mine and what's mine is mine :) Pat

Hi Pat-

I'm interested. Please verify its availbility still + price via Netmail (if
possible) or here. If interested I'll contact you by phone. -Thank
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From: DYLAN GORDON                           Number: 3539
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/18/93 11:01a
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        I'm looking for a G-RATED CD of GIf's....  I think Gif's Galore would
be good, but does anyone know of a Good one?

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From: MARK GLENN                             Number: 3540
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/15/93  7:11p
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ> Does ANYONE recall reading my review of Busty Babes Release 3.0?? If not


BJ> recreate it and re-post.

Please recreate it and send it to me 1:290/17 Mark Glenn

 * WCE 1.10/2159 * Not a computer nerd; merely a techno-weenie.


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From: ED KELLERMANN                          Number: 3541
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/18/93  4:27p
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris,
  Pardon my seeming stupidity, but what is the difference between a Pioneer
DMR600 and a DMR604X changer ?  Do you also sell them bundled with the
appropriate drivers, and a SCSI card, cables, etc set up for external ?

                        thanks

                               Ed Kellermann,  Sysop

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3542
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 08/18/93 10:35p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >  PR> Have Busty #1, know any one that wants to buy it?
 >  PR>                     Pat Rickerson
 >  PR>                     512-939-7095

 > Sure do, me. How much you asking? If its Ver.#1
 > release#1 that is. You can tell by if its lacking the
 > Text directorys. -Thank

It is the #1 Busty Babes, and it has no Text directorys.
I am taking bids on it, and want to sell it real soon. So far every one that
has quoted a price hasn't called back except one and he offered $275.00. Call
if you are intrested.
                                Thanks Pat
                       # 512-939-9822
                              New Number!

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From: JONATHAN AVIS                          Number: 3543
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/17/93  3:03p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Terry Blount said:

 > Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500
 > internal cd rom drives for $99.   I have about 20 left.  30
 > day warranty included.   205-824-2552


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 >  * Origin: Center of the Cosmos (1:3625/441)

    Terry,
How much would it cost to ship one of these babies all the way to Nanoose Bay,
BC, Canada?
                    Jon Avis

PS- My Adress is:      Box 16 RR#1 Morello Rd.,
                       Nanoose Bay, BC.
                       VOR 2RO

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From: TYLER MIELNICHUK                       Number: 3544
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 08/18/93  3:24p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Is the drive still for sale? I live on vancouver island. I'm interested in the
drive if you still have it? Does it include any disks? Even if it doesn't i'll
still consider it. Later.

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From: TYLER MIELNICHUK                       Number: 3545
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/18/93  3:29p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi, i'm interested in buying a used CD-ROM drive (external) and a SB-PRO as a
controller. I'm new to CD-ROM's so i'll need all the docs and junk. If it comes
with two or three C.D's that would be great too. Have Thunderboard (SB, Adlib,
MIDI compatible) for trade or for consideration on the price of CD-ROM etc.
Also have Non- CD games as well. Please Contact me soon.

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3546
  To: STEVE GERWECK                            Date: 08/19/93  2:03a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=>> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Vito Servideo <=-

 BO>> Yes, version 1.0 volume 3.0 ! Interested, give us a call at the above
 BO>> number and we'll be happy to help you out.

>>    How much is shipping and handling?


>>    Steve

The cost is $5. if you charge your order and $7. if we need to ship
C.O.D.

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happpy
to help.

NOTE: Vol3.0 will not be available after September. This is ( from what I'am
told ) the last run.

Boris Osadciw

... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3547
  To: B.A. CROWELL                             Date: 08/19/93  2:03a
Subj: Re: Drives                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Boris,
>>         Do you sell CDROM Drives?  If so do you have one that
>>         will handle 6 CDs at a time and How many $.


>>     Thanks,

Sure do! The DMR600 is priced at $799. and the DMR604X is priced at
$1199. This is for the bare unit and doesn't come with an interface
card nor shielded cable. If you need these, we can help here as well.
Give us a call at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Protected Mode Xpress! It's hot!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3548
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/19/93  2:03a
Subj: Re: Sound Sample CD-ROM D               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->> >>    I am looking for a CD-ROM with .mid .voc .wav and even .iff
->> >>    and .mod Can anybody tell me if one exists, and if so where I
->> >>    can get one? Thanks in advance :)
->> >>    Henry
->>
->>
->> We have a disk called " Soundware " that offer's all of the above and
->> more and is BBS ready as well. It claims to be the largest selection
->> of sound files in the world.
>>    Could you give some examples of what is on it?

This cd contains the largest selection of sound files found on cd. It has
over 10,000 selections, some ready to play. You can find everything from
MIDI, WAV, MOD as well as many SB files. If you can't find something on this
cd, you'll not find it anywhere. It's also a BBS ready cd as well.

Interested, please feel free to give us a call anytime at 216-225-3263 and
we'll be happy to assist you further.


>>    Also, what other disks do you have?
>>    Do you have any MPC programs too?


We handle over 500+ titles and yes many of them are MPC and Multimedia.

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress makes it's motion picture debut as the "The Emailator"!
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From: MICHAEL SELLS                          Number: 3549
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/19/93  4:20a
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a msg on <Aug 17 01:18>, Mike Shannon of 1:3407/101 writes:
 MS> Michael,

 MS> If you want, you can send this in to S&S for a free upgrade to
 MS> version
 MS> 1.5b.  It has an improved search utility that now includes a
 MS> whole list of
 MS> cities, and also has an online tutorial, which explains a lot of
 MS> the
 MS> features that were not included in version 1.2.  There were also
 MS> a few
 MS> bug fixes.  If interested, send to:  S & S Publishing * PO Box
 MS> 552
 MS> Lemont, IL 60439, and request the free upgrade.
Thanks Mike, but I had already sent in both copies that I had. The new version
was much easier to use and the tutorial was a great help. I have already sold
the extra one.
Michael Sells

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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 3550
  To: LESLIE THOMAS                            Date: 08/19/93  2:58p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Leslie,
     The Mitsumi that I am selling does have its own interface card and works
well together with the SBPRO.  To connect them I had to buy a special wire.  If
you are interested in buying it, please give me a call at [phone] or
leave another message here.

     I also have eleven CDs that I'd like to sell with it.  Thanks!
                                                                Greg


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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 3551
  To: WILLIAM E GOSSETT                        Date: 08/19/93  3:04p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi William,
     The Mitsumi that I'm selling is internal.  I have the following CDs:
        The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
        1992 Guinness Disk of Records: Multimedia Version
        Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume I
        The Software Jukebox: Home and Entertainment Edition
        VGA Spectrum
        Original Shareware 1992
        MPC Wizard with Media Clips
        Introduction to Nautilus
        Phoenix Shareware CD: Version 2.0
        Sample This!
        The Future is Now!

     As for pricing?  Make an offer.  I'm pretty reasonable.  If you are
interested, give me a call at [phone] or leave another message here.
                                             Thanks!
                                                Greg



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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 3552
  To: MATT PETERSON                            Date: 08/19/93  3:14p
Subj: Mitsumi LU005 CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have an internal Mitsumi drive, 11 CDs, and a SoundBlaster Pro card that make
a great multimedia system.  It works fine with my 386/33 system.  I'm asking
$600 for the whole thing, but I'll listen to any reasonable offers.  If you are
interested give me a call at [phone] or leave a message here.
                                                Thanks,
                                                      Greg


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 3553
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/18/93  6:21a
Subj: 7th Guest $40                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Ismail!

Monday August 16 1993, Ismail Arslangiray writes to All:

 IA> For a limited time 7th Guest $40 plus shipping. ($3 US, $6 international).

Is this the full, retail version with box and video, or is it the "cheap"
version with disc only?



... "If you can fake honesty... you've got it made!" (Bill Clinton)

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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 3554
  To: JOHN TRIMBACK                            Date: 08/19/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

John,


If you will guarantee against DOA you can ship them COD to:

509 Pine Ridge Ln.
Aubrey, TX 76227

Let me know how much the total is going to be. If you wish to call to talk to
me about the transaction, my # is 817-440-3262 or 817-365-9045.


Thanks a bunch!

Bill

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 3555
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/20/93  8:13a
Subj: New Echo - Multimedia                   Refer: 6938
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> This echo also can be ported to any other sister nets and RIME.

If you use the FIDOnet nodelist, you have to adhear to FIDOnet
policy - policy that prevents cross posting mail in multiple networks.
RIME has similar policy, too.

The nodelist can only be used to "participate in FIDOnet"... This is
clearly stated at the beginning of the nodelist.  If you use the
nodelist for any other purpose, you'll be violating Tom Jenning's
copyright.  You probably don't care, based on your past business
practices.

tim
moderator
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From: JIM LAWHON                             Number: 3556
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93 10:19a
Subj: Texel/Toshiba Questions                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

- Will the Texel DM3024 run off an Adaptec 1542b SCSI controller under OS/2?
- Is the 3024 multi-session and XA capable under OS/2?
- What is included with the drive?  Mounting kit, cables, caddies etc?
- Is anyone here selling the Texel 3024 for less than $339(US)+s&h?
- If so,  How much is shipping and handling?  Via/how?
          What are the return/repair/warranty terms

- Is anyone here selling the Toshiba 3401b for less than $399(US)+s&h?
- Is the 3401 multi-session and XA capable under OS/2?
- What is included with the drive?  Mounting kit, cables, caddies etc?
- If so,  How much is shipping and handling?  Via/how?
          What are the return/repair/warranty terms?

- Is there any reason why one of the above shouldn't be used on a BBS?
- How much are extra caddies for the above system?

I have the $$$ and will be purchasing one or the other within the next couple
of weeks.  If you are a dealer competitive with the above pricing and prefer to
deal privately or by voice, you may contact me via netmail at the address
below.

                                      regards,
                                              Jim

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From: CAM LERCH                              Number: 3557
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/18/93  9:27a
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Sorry they are gone.  If you want to send me your phone
 > number I'll call you if I get any more.

Hey... I've been looking for one for my BBS.. Are they 650ms? Do they include
the control card? Well, my numbers 604-248-4262.... Yes Canada.. If you get
anymore can you please call me.. Thanks for your time..

**Cam**

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From: DAVID NAFFIS                           Number: 3558
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/19/93  4:35p
Subj: Sound Sample CD-ROM Disc                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

       Do you mean order it from somewhere else? If so, sure you can get it
lots of other places. One place that may have it and is probably cheap is
Crazy Bob's 1-800-776-5865.

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From: DAVID HARRISON                         Number: 3559
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 08/19/93  1:31p
Subj: Re: Night Owl 9 $25                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KP>                   N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0
KP>  ******************************************************************
KP>  *********                                                *********
KP>  ***********           $ 25.00 a Copy !!!               ***********
KP>  *********                                                *********
KP>  ***********                                            ***********
KP>  *********               Ask for Barney                   *********
KP>  ***********           ------------------               ***********
KP>  *********               1-800-638-5757                   *********
KP>  ***********                                            ***********
KP>  *********           We Will NOT be out Sold              *********
KP>  ***********                                            ***********
KP>  ******************************************************************
KP>                   N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0
I am curious as to what Night Own 9.0 consist of... Specs, Megs, Types of
Files, and if it has all files.bbs installed?

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From: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                      Number: 3560
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/19/93 11:09a
Subj: RED HOT CDROM Specials                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Digital Dreams/Southern Beauties/Amatuer Models................  69.95

Is this a 3-pack special?

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 3561
  To: KEN TULLY                                Date: 08/17/93  5:04p
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROMS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hiya, Ken!
On Aug 16, Ken Tully spake thusly to Sandeleh Francis @ 910/529:

 SF@9>> Hiya, Ken!
 SF@9>> On Aug 08, Ken Tully spake thusly to Keith Sheehan:

 KT>> will be BBS ready for both PCBoard, and Files.bbs
 SF@9>> i'm a sysop and i would MUCH rather wait for a disk
 SF@9>> that will "self-install" than do it myself!
 SF@9>> <shudder>  simtel is still sitting here uninstalled
 SF@9>> cuz i have not the time to do it...

 KT> Thank you for the input Sandeleh.  Your opinion is
 KT> appreciated, and noted.  As much as I'd like to release the
 KT> disk now, I agree with you and will try to put it off until
 KT> the front end is ready.

heh - keep me in mind, ken, i like to get new CDs for the bbs... <g>



\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 3562
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 08/18/93  9:59a
Subj: Slow delivery                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Patrick, I still haven't received my CD-ROM yet.  Today is Wednesday,
the 18th of August.  I mailed you a money order on July 22nd.

You had called me, got my voice mail, and I called you back and got
your answering machine.  Then we finally spoke last Tuesday, the 10th
of August.  You said you had been very busy and had in fact just
sent the disk on Monday, along with about 20 something others.

If you did send it, I should have received it by now. I am concerned
that it may have been lost - how was it sent?  Thanks for your
response.  If I happen to get it before Friday (the earliest I can
expect a reply via this echo) I will post another message. You
can of course call the same number and leave a message.



... The Joy of (WP) Six
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3563
  To: STEVE KISER                              Date: 08/19/93  7:25p
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks! Maybe Lee's node dropped the packet or something.
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3564
  To: DOUG SNELL                               Date: 08/19/93  7:26p
Subj: BB3 Review                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You're more than welcome, Doug. Lee's promised to let me review her  upcoming
releases as well!! Watch for 'em...
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3565
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 08/19/93  7:27p
Subj: X Movie Review CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Gracias, amigo!
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From: JOHN TUTTON                            Number: 3566
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/18/93  1:21p
Subj: $99 CD-ROM DRIVES                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     Terry, I just got the shipment of the four CD-ROM drives that I purchased
from you.  They look great.  However, I think you may have over-charged me $4
(I think you rounded the $99 up to $100).  It's no big deal, but hey, $4 is $4.
 Before you send me a check, tell me about the special that you were having on
that Shareware CD.  Also, how much are extra caddies?  Thanks.

John Tutton (916)392-JOHN

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From: RICK DUNLAP                            Number: 3567
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/18/93 11:48p
Subj: Catalog Request                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Would you please send me your current catalog at:

Rick Dunlap
750 Warfield #605
Oakland, Ca. 94610

I've done business with you several times.  I just moved to the San
Francisco Bay area.  You probably have my address as Memphis, Tn.

Thanks,

Rick Dunlap

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From: RICK DUNLAP                            Number: 3568
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/18/93 11:51p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

To any CD-Rom distributors.  I would be interested in recieving CD-Rom
catalogs.

Send to:

Rick Dunlap
750 Warfield #605
Oakland, Ca. 94610

Thanks...

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3569
  To: DOUG HUNKELE                             Date: 08/19/93  1:56a
Subj: adult cd                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

14 Aug 93 20:36, Doug Hunkele wrote to All:

 DH> is. What SWIMSUIT CDs are legal for posting on a bbs?? -+- Synchronet

In most Muslim countries (and in Fundamentalist Oklahoma <grin>) none.

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3570
  To: CHRIS WISE                               Date: 08/19/93  1:44a
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CW>    There is a new driver out for Mitsumi which will allow qemm to load the
 CW> driver high.  If you can not find it you can find it at the bulletin
board
 CW> listed below!   later.
 CW>  + Origin: SelectiveSource*Internet*VaBeach,VA*[phone]
(1:275/102.0)

Is it FReqable?  What's the filename?

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3571
  To: STEPHEN THOMPSON                         Date: 08/19/93  1:48a
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TB>> Sorry they are gone.  If you want to send me your phone number I'll

 ST> I would like to get on your waiting list.  I've never such a price and it
 ST> sounds like the perfect way to put CD ROM on my BBS.  My name is Stephen

Why?  $99 for the drive + $60 for the controller = $160 for a used 600ms
drive.
For $175 you can buy a *new* 350ms drive with a warranty.

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3572
  To: TERRY GREENMAN                           Date: 08/19/93  3:41p
Subj: WizPak                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

07 Aug 93 20:27, Terry Greenman wrote to All:

 TG> The WIZ-PAK 6-pak CD-ROM disk, over 170 programs, VGA pain prog
 TG> animations, arcade and educational and much, much, more....

So there are about 28 programs on each disc?  What do you mean by "VGA pain"?

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 3573
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  2:47p
Subj: scsi cdrom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



SCSI CDROMs For Sale:

Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00

Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac.  Features 50 Pin True SCSI,
300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and 64k Buffer.
Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty

205-837-5053 anytime.




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From: ROEL SARCENO                           Number: 3574
  To: TONY MACE                                Date: 08/19/93  7:06p
Subj: New Idea !                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Tony,

RS> will send a file (price list) to a certain node.  For this examp
RS> we will assume a node address of 1:9999/9999.  Node 1:999/9999 w

TM>I would be willing....  I have the space and the time.....

There are several SysOp who replied.  Tell me more about your system
How much disk space?  ARe you a programmer?  Will you be able to import
and export echomail into a text file?

Call me at [phone].  This is my work number from 9am to 5:30pm PST

Roel


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From: ROEL SARCENO                           Number: 3575
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/19/93  7:12p
Subj: New Echo - Multimedia                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ismail,

-> I have started a new echo area called MULTIMEDIA
-> I will do the initial feeding, if you like to get linked, please send
-> mail and I will start feeding your node.

I'm interested.  1:203/1316

Thank's
Roel


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From: ROEL SARCENO                           Number: 3576
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/19/93  7:24p
Subj: Encyclopedia                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris Osadciw

Do you have any Encyclopedia, Road maps and games on CD ROM that can be
use as a on-line door.  I'm not looking for files they can download by
something they can actually run online with the bbs.  I would also
like to know if it's legal or if it's for personal use.


Thank's
Roel


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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3577
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 08/19/93  9:16p
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I'm interested. Please verify its availbility still +
 > price via Netmail (if possible) or here. If interested
 > I'll contact you by phone. -Thank

It is still here waiting for a new home! The price is what we can come up with,
to make both us happy! If you like you can call 512-939-9822
                                       Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3578
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/19/93  9:23p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > * In a message originally to All, Terry Blount said:

 >> Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500
 >> internal cd rom drives for $99.   I have about 20 left.  30
 >> day warranty included.   205-824-2552


I really need TWO if there is any left, or one if thats all is left. Can you
please send them COD if possible.
                            Pat Rickerson
                          411 Ninth St. NAS
                          Corpus Christi, Tx. 78418
                            phone # [phone]

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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 3579
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/18/93  6:53a
Subj: 2 ROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AJ>I have a couple of CD's that I am willing to trade or sell.

AJ>                      U.S. History on CD-Rom

                         $10 is offered.

 ■ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 ■ MSI - Redefining Telecommunications in '93


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 3580
  To: SHANE HEDRICK                            Date: 08/18/93  6:54a
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SH>          FOR SALE OR TRADE:

SH>                 Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective

SH>          Will consider all offers.

      $10 is offered
 ■ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 ■ WILDCAT! BBS ■ QmodemPro ■ Off-Line Xpress: Perfection!


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From: DONALD GORDON CRAIG                    Number: 3581
  To: TERRY HAUNT                              Date: 08/19/93 12:57a
Subj: Hitach 3500 cards and cable             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Terry...how much would you charge for a driver card for your model 3500
hitachi cd-roms you sell and the connecting cable for four drives?? Please
E-Mail me at 1:268/18 or reply via this message base , O.K? Thanks.....


                                 Gordon Craig
                                 Omega-BBS
                                 717-296-8560
                                 Fido-net 1:268/18

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From: KEN TULLY                              Number: 3582
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  6:14a
Subj: Busty Ver. 1.0                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have Busty Babes First Edition for sale to the highest bidder.  It is from
the first pressing.  If interested you can call me at 203-387-3174 voice, Fax
at 203-387-3306 or BBS at 203-387-3289.


                                        Ken...

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From: ART BREAULT                            Number: 3583
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/19/93  7:24p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

My mitsumi drive is model crmc-lu002 internal. My interface is ide. I did
cheat a little in the installation because I had the installation software
install the drive into autoexec and config then I removed the lines
concerning the software interface and add it only on a menu program
then I used qemm and quardeck managers to load all into high memory.
Almost everytime had trouble with a software cd in was due to lack of
memory on the low end .Example on my disc Great Literature a file named
discpack must load into low memory or the cd will act like it doesnt
exist. Without the file properly loaded the drive doesnt understand the
data on the disc. With the software access file installed you should be
able to get a e E:\ prompt and run a dir read. Some cd rom have files that
are 570k and that 570k must go into low memory. You can have 32meg of
memory but if only 565k are available low the cd wont read. The Comptions
upgraded encyclopedia requires 4 meg operating memory, but a certain
amount must be under 640k or base memory. Your cd rom should come up as
e:\ and print out a dir list.This means that your rom "sees" the data.
Once that is established then to "read" the cd the langage must be placed
in low memory.This file is like the read files that load into memory when
you run any program "they access the files" dos is not the langage of all
of the things on the cd and certain compressions and data reguire that
file to read.
         If you are able to come up with a e:\ drive and are able to see
the data then you are having a memory or a software problem .


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From: ART BREAULT                            Number: 3584
  To: RON MITCHELL                             Date: 08/19/93  7:54p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ron on various bbs's I have seen cd roms for sale with the scsi interface
specified. It seems that if it is specified than interface must be a
requirement on some drives accessed the way you want. Look through those
adds and find one that designates the interface call them an ask them why
they reguire that interface. I prefer to access mine through the software
because when I boot the computer the driver doesnt take up any memory till
I use it. I have all my cd cataloged on a menu program called 3dmenu. The
menu programs hold the dos commands in memory so that when I start a disc
the menu programloads the driver then starts the disc that way the two
files that run  the cd are not in memory till the cd in actully called
upon.As far as using a 16 bit card I belive you can.


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From: JESS LEWIS                             Number: 3585
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  9:13p
Subj: re: scsi controller                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for the cables and controller card for a Nec cdr25 cdrom reader
if anyone would be interested in selling such please leave me a message here.
Thank you very much,
Jess Lewis
Ps this is an external cd rom.

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From: AL BECK                                Number: 3586
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  5:17p
Subj: Need CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anyone have a CD pertaining to Quick Basic?

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From: DUNCAN MEADOWS                         Number: 3587
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/19/93  6:34p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom List                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Would you please send me a copy of your catalog:

                                 Thanx:
D. Meadows
574 Mc Murray
San Antonio, Tx 78234

... Move your vowels every day or you'll get consonated
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From: JIM NEUMILLER                          Number: 3588
  To: ZACHARY HAMM                             Date: 08/17/93 11:29p
Subj: Re: DAK CD-ROM SUPPORT                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Zachary Hamm to All <=-

 ZH> Does Anybody have the Tech Support Number for BSR for the BSR CD-ROM
 ZH> Drive that DAK sold?  DAK will not support the warranty after 30 days.


 ZH> Zack Hamm
Zack,

Do you suppose you could post me the phone number for DAK?  I haven't
ordered in awhile....so dropped off the mailing list....

Jim



... RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory
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From: JIM NEUMILLER                          Number: 3589
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 08/17/93 11:44p
Subj: Re: Wanted                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Greg Manter to Leslie Thomas <=-

 GM> Leslie,
 GM> I have an MPC compatible CD-ROM drive that I run with my SBPRO.
 GM> I also have 13 CDs that I would like to sell with it.  Please call me
 GM> at  [phone] or leave a message here if you are interested.
 GM> Thanks.

What are the CD's?  And what would you be asking for them?

Jim


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From: THOM JENNINGS                          Number: 3590
  To: SHANE HEDRICK                            Date: 08/18/93  8:15p
Subj: Microsoft Office                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Shane.  I see you have a couple other offers.  I think I'll pass at this time.
 The price is fair though.  Thanks for the reply.
Thom

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From: ANISH ACHARYA                          Number: 3591
  To: HARRY WHEAT                              Date: 08/19/93  4:52p
Subj: Remote Access 2.00                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Harry,
       Hello!  Just thought I'd point out that Remote-Access 2.00
       has internal support for drive switching.  Right now, RA 2.00
       is gamma (only available to Registered Users).  But I think
       the final release will be out before X-Mas.  Just though I'd
       let you know!!

               - Anish Acharya

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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 3592
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/18/93 10:01p
Subj: Re: BB                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Steve Gerweck <=-

 BO> Well Steve, BB v1 vol1.0 is no longer available from us as we have
 BO> sold it to a buyer for $425.00. As for BB v1 vol2 it's priced at $45.
 BO> and BB v1 ver3.0 is $25.

HI Boris.. is that $25 shipped for V3?  If so, post your company's address
and I'll send you a check.  Or do you have an 800 number to charge it?


Steve


... 313-242-8792
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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 3593
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/19/93  1:32a
Subj: Busty babes, before 3                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Pat Rickerson to Bob Jackson <=-

 PR> Have Busty #1, know any one that wants to buy it?

How much?


... There once was a women from Venus, whose body was shaped....
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: GLEN MCALLISTER                        Number: 3594
  To: JEFF KAPLOW                              Date: 08/18/93  2:04p
Subj: Looking for hackers                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Jeff,
        I'm Glen MAllister, and I've been trying desporately to get in on the
hacking seen.  I was hoping that you might know some who knows more about it.
I'm not out to hurt any one but I want to know morre about the subject.  I
would appreciat any help you could give me.
                                                Thanks,
                                               -=Glen=-


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From: GLEN MCALLISTER                        Number: 3595
  To: TONY LIM                                 Date: 08/18/93  2:10p
Subj: Looking for Hachers                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Tony,
        My name is Glen McAllister, I have been looking for some time to find
some one who is willing to talk about hacking.  I've been trying to get in on
the scene for about a year now.  If you have any information on where I can go
to get help, I would appreciat your assistence in this matter.
                                                 Looking for trouble,
                                                        -=GLEN=-


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3596
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/18/93 10:13p
Subj: Big Sky Special                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                               ***Special***
                            Big Sky ROM   $26.00

The price on Big Sky Rom has been reduced from $48 to $26.  This is a
very well put together shareware disc with 668 megs and 7155 files.
There is a file_id.diz file description in each zipped file.  The date
of each zipped file is that of the largest file in the archive, giving a
much more accurate representation than that of many CD-Roms currently on
the market.  Big Sky is very popular on Computer Works BBS, and can be
previewed online.

Computer Works                                  Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders

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From: BRUCE RICHARDS                         Number: 3597
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93  7:03a
Subj: Mitsumi Internal 350 ms / 175kb Trans Rate  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

This drive is only 2 months old, I have upgraded to a  6 disk

Pioneer and if your  intrested in buying this drive, currently

runs great under DOS and OS/2.


First 150.00 gets it, if you want it shipped COD, you pay the

shipping/cod charges also.


NEtmail 1:116/73 - 615-331-6631 (eve Voice) - 615-333-8467 day



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From: LIEF BROOKS                            Number: 3598
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93 12:11p
Subj: Southern Beauties                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TO ALL BBS SYSOPS OVER THE AGE OF 18 & DISTRIBUTORS:

*********************** Southern Beauties **********************
--------- A FULLY COMMERCIAL -- FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC ---------
******** FOR SALE ----- $ 35.00 each ----- Quantity One ********

675 Megs-Over 65 TOP MODELS-1000 GIFs-1024x768x256 From Original
35mm Slides-Includes 300 Megs of the Best Images in 24 bit True
Color. Installs Quickly & Easily - Menu Driven - User Friendly -
Popup Help - Mouse Support - Keyword Search - Sound Blaster
Front Loader - Multiple Directory Slide Show Capability

This QUALITY DISC is NOT FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!!

Since the images on "Southern Beauties" are not available for
downloading on any BBS, you may want to make it available to your
subscribers on a mail order basis.  YOU CAN EASILY make a PROFIT
of 50% or MORE, making as much or more than you already do on
your subscription fees.

Please call 407-872-6200 for prices on quantity purchases.

To Purchase please send a check or M/O along with a statement
INDICATING YOUR AGE to:

Florida Wholesale, Inc. * Box 560563 * Orlando, FL 32856 * USA

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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 3599
  To: STEVE HECKER                             Date: 08/19/93  5:42p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Blaine Richard <08-18-93 00:02> Steve Hecker wrote:

SH>   > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
SH>   > From Original 35mm Slides
SH>
SH>          Blaine, pardon me for asking, but why would anyone pay for a
SH>  disk filled with gifs of senior citizens ? :-)

Mr. Hecker, I don't know what YOU are looking for (teenage girls?),
but senior citizens, THE MODELS ARE NOT!  The models that appear in
"SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" are not only extremely attractive but appear
regularly in current issues of men's magazines and adult movies.
For example, Katie appears on the front cover and inside of CLUB's
October, 1993, issue and although they indicate she's 24 years old,
she is presently 19 and was 18 and 19 years old when she posed for
the images on "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES". Katie will also be in the October,
1993, issue of PENTHOUSE MAGAZINE. Crystal, Honey, and Angel are
all STARRING in current adult videos under the names Crystal Wilder
(24 years old), Bunny Blue (28 years old), and Angel Bust (23 years
old) respectively; while others are presently appearing in adult
videos.  With the exception of a few, every model has been published.

With regard to the models ages:
 Jade (19 years old) who also appears on the back cover of the disc
 Misty (18 years old) who also appears on the inside front cover
 Maria (33 years old)

According to the photographer ALL the other models are between 19
years old and 29 years old WITH 90% OF THEM BEING BETWEEN THE AGES
OF 20 and 24 YEARS OLD.  I did not want to inconvenience the
photographer for more detailed information.

I suggest if you did not find the models on "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" to
be young enough, that you find a supplier of kiddie porn and HAVE
A GOOD TIME!  We have had complaints about the disc not being for
use on BBSs, but none about the ages of the models or the fact that
they are not attractive.

To the SYSOPS who do not like the fact that "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" can
not be put on their BBS, we have recommended that they offer the disc
for sale on their BBS.  Many of them that followed our advice have
found that they can make more money from the sales of "SOUTHERN
BEAUTIES" than they do from subscription fees.

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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 3600
  To: JEFF COCHRAN                             Date: 08/19/93  5:46p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Blaine Richard <08-15-93 13:43> Jeff Cochran wrote:

JC>   >  ********** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS
JC>
JC>  Kinda cuts its market...


To the SYSOPS who do not like the fact that "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" can
not be put on their BBS, we have recommended that they offer the disc
for sale on their BBS.  Many of them that followed our advice have
found that they can make more money from the sales of "SOUTHERN
BEAUTIES" than they do from subscription fees.

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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 3601
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/19/93  1:04p
Subj: X Movie Review CD                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LN> SHOWOFF is our baby now in this industry, and you will see her on
 LN> our 2 disc's coming out in September--

Would you list the cdroms FLD produces and any planned future releases.-Thank

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From: MARK GRYN                              Number: 3602
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93 11:33a
Subj: OS/2 2.0 - Mitsumi CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    Okay, I need some help here.

    I need to install a Mitsumi CD-ROM drive in somebody's machine.  No problem
I figure, 10 minutes and I'm done.  I slap the drive and the card in there,
hook up the power et all, then boot the sucker up.

    Too my horror, I see that little part of the BIOS screen on the top right
disapear as it boots up.  He's running OS/2 2.0.

    Yuck.  Obviously, this is not a 10 minute installation. After 3 hours of
playing with the gosh darn thing, I gave up.

    Basically, I tried to get it running in a DOS box, full screen dos window
actually.  Just won't happen!  Kept getting the 'Incorrect DOS version', when
it attempted to load the Mitsumi driver.

    I'm using MTMCDE v2.10, and MSCDEX v2.21.  Too bad MSCDEX won't load...

    Can someone help me?  Or...anyone got an OS/2 driver for Mitsumi drives?

    Thanks...
                                                     Mark

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From: PAT RILEY                              Number: 3603
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 08/19/93  9:31p
Subj: Multimedia Items For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     I have a slightly used Mitsumi CD-ROM drive (MPC compatible) for sale
with a SoundBlaster Pro card including MIDI connections and the following
disks:
        The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
        1992 Guinness Disk of Records: Multimedia Version
        Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume I
        The Software Jukebox: Home and Entertainment Edition
        VGA Spectrum
        Original Shareware 1992
        MPC Wizard with Media Clips
        Introduction to Nautilus
        Phoenix Shareware CD: Version 2.0
        Sample This!
        The Future is Now!


How about $150.00 plus shipping, guaranteed against DOA?

 * QMPro 1.50 41-2633 * ** Operation halted, reboot brain. **

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From: ROBERT LEE                             Number: 3604
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  5:56a
Subj: CDROM BBS Door!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                                CDMX2DOR
                                Beta v.99
                The "Next Generation CDRom-Access BBS Door"
                        (c)1993 Robert E. Lee
                              [phone]
                                  U.S.A.
                           1:232/31  8:7002/3005
                              New Century BBS
============================================================================
  A special "Thanks" to Chris Kuefler @1:3402/22Fidonet for his suggestions
                  and assistance in beta-testing CDMX2DOR.
============================================================================

        So long, ROMBRAIN, Hello CDMX2DOR!!!

        In the beginning there was CDMAXDOR, and it worked ok on some
        boards but was not capable of doing some things that it should
        and gave some folks fits.  As a result of many suggestions from
        CDMAXDOR users and other sysops, here is CDMX2DOR, a CDRom-BBS
        interface door that, I believe, you'll find to be a superior
        product.  The latest version of CDMX2DOR is available for F'Req
        at 1:232/31 as well as are a number of other doors we've written.

WHAT WILL CDMX2DOR DO?

        In a word.... EVERYTHING.

        Some features:

        o       it will work with ANY BBS software (not just MAXIMUS) that
                is capable of writing a long-style (52 line) DOOR.SYS
                drop-file, e.g., WILDCAT, PCB, GAP, etc.  If your system
                can't write a long-style DOOR.SYS, then you may still
                use this software via a door conversion program that
                makes long-style DOOR.SYS files.

        o       it will allow you to control the number of KBytes that
                a user may access from your CD's in a given day so as
                to prevent file leaching.

        o       it will allow viewing of textfiles and will unarchieve
                zips for viewing as well.

        o       it will automatically update MAXIMUS BBS user's files
                to reflect their CDRom downloads.  Other boards' auto-
                updating of user's download stats is not yet supported
                but will be (for registered users).

                If you are a Maximus BBS sysop, it will:


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From: ROBERT LEE                             Number: 3605
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  5:57a
Subj: CDROM BBS Door!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        o       it will allow users to download files from your CD or
                HD with ease, search for files or text, and allow your
                users to unzip files on the CD for reading text files
                and other docs in zipped files.

        o       it will add your BBS comment/advertisement on outgoing
                files.

        o       it will also allow you to put your C: drive (HD) files
                within its structure for use, so CDMX2DOR can even be
                used as a complete drop-in files-transfer system working
                with CDRom drives and Hard Drives.  Tape drive interfacing
                may be supported in future versions to registered users.
                If you want to squeeze every possible drive for online
                files for your users, you can even have CDMX2DOR access
                files off your B:\ drive for an additional 1.44 meg of
                files online.

        o       it has beautiful ansi graphics and also supports non-ansi
                use.

        o       it will allow you to have as many as 34 CD's online, each
                in its own drive, from which users may select

        o       it will support CD's with as many as 99 subdirectories
                and you can break down a CD that has more than 99
                subdirectories into 2 or more sub-sets (thereby making
                CDMX2DOR capable of handling any CD regardless of its
                number of subdirectories).

        o       it is fully configureable.  It will work with:

                        o       CD's with files.bbs in separate
                                subdirectories on the CD.

                        o       CD's with dirx.lst in separate
                                subdirectories on the CD.

                        o       You can even specify what file it should
                                look for to find subdirectory listings,
                                e.g., files.bbs, dirx.lst, files.lst,
                                DIR, or whatever you have.

                        o       CD's that have their files.bbs's or
                                whatever, in a single subdirectory on
                                the CD instead of having them in each
                                subdirectory.

                        o       It will even work with CD's that don't
                                even have a files.bbs or other subdirectory

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From: TOM SUTER                              Number: 3606
  To: JOHN ROBINSON                            Date: 08/19/93 11:37p
Subj: John W. Campbell's been                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JR>     Maybe they'll get around to having a JWC stamp one of these years
JR>     Campbell was the father of modern Science Fiction.
JR>     He edited Astounding/Analog from 1938-1971.
JR>     But Isaac Asimov will probably have a stamp first.
JR>     Campbell was trained as an engineer.
JR>     He would have understood CD-ROMs.
JR>     [Bet you thought I was posting out of topic!] *:o)

John,

     Just to pick a nit, John W. Campbell's degree was in physics,
via MIT and Duke (but he would *still* have understood CD-ROMs).
<g,d&r>.  FWIW, Asimov had a Ph.D in Chemistry, and taught
bio-chemistry at Boston before switching to writing full-time.

     Auf wiedersehen,
     = Tom =

 * QMPro 1.01 41-0124 * Biochemists wear designer genes.

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From: JAMES BRYANT                           Number: 3607
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  4:25p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a copy of 7th Guest and would like to trade it for Night Owl 9
and Night Owl 8.
My voice number is 619 538 0973


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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 3608
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  6:39a
Subj: busty babes, release #1                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a copy of the "BUSTY BABES" Volume 1, Release 1.0
thats in excellent condition (used 3 or 4 times) that I
would like to sell. If you are interested, leave your
name,an offer, and how you can be reached or you can
reach me at [phone].


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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 3609
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/18/93  8:55p
Subj: busty babes 1.0                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a copy of the "BUSTY BABES"
Volume 1, Release 1.0 that I would like
to sell. If you are interested, leave your
name,an offer, and how you can be reached.

                Mark
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From: MANESH RAMA                            Number: 3610
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93 11:21a
Subj: CD-SOFTWARE                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HI, I WUZ JUST WONDERING IF ANYONE OUT THERE HAS ANY CD-SOFTWARE
FOR SALE. PREFFERABLY UNDER $50.
OH YEAH I ALSO HAVE A CD OF MY OWN FOR SALE
ITS THE NIGHT OWL'S CD ver. 6
ANY OFFERS?

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From: MANESH RAMA                            Number: 3611
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/19/93 11:25a
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING UPDATE!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HEY, MIKE I WUZ JUST WONDERING IF YOU WOULD PART THAT
CD WITH ME.
I DONT HAVE THAT MUCH CASH BUT I AM WILLING TO GIVE UP
MY NIGHT OWL'S CD AND LIKE SAY $10. COME ON
MAN BE A BUD!!!!!!

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From: MANESH RAMA                            Number: 3612
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/19/93 11:28a
Subj: BRAND NEW ADULT CD'S!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HEY, MIKE, ME AGAIN,
I WUZ JUST WONDERING IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PART
WITH ONE OF YOUR ADULT CD'S IF YOU WONT TRADE
FOR THE MAPPING ONE THEN HOW BOUT' FOR NIGHT OWLS
AND ONE OF YOUR ADULT CD'S.
COME MON MAN.

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From: MANESH RAMA                            Number: 3613
  To: MARK SMITH                               Date: 08/19/93 11:31a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HEY, MARK, HEY MAN HOW BOUT TRADING A NIGHT OWL'S CD FOR THAT
GROLIERS CD. COME ON MAN I COULD USE A GOOD A ENCYCLOPEDIA CD.
LATER

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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 3614
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 08/19/93  6:54p
Subj: MAPS CDROM Which one?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


DR> JR>  Looking for a good USA Map where I can get very detailed on street
DR> JR>  level. I was looking at these two, and I wanted to know what you
DR> JR>  guys thought about these programs.
DR> JR>              1. Precision Mapping
DR> JR>              2. Street Atlas

DR>I sell both, but personally recommend Precision Mapping.


I am considering being one of these two programs.  Can you please tell
me why you prefer Precision Mapping more?  Is it more accurate, have
more features?  Also, send a number so that I may order once I make up
my mind.

      Ty.

 * OLX 2.1 TD * This tagline is umop apisdn


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From: PAUL DIESTELHORST                      Number: 3615
  To: LARRY CHARPIAT                           Date: 08/20/93 10:20p
Subj: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


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From: PAUL DIESTELHORST                      Number: 3616
  To: LARRY CHARPIAT                           Date: 08/20/93 10:22p
Subj: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to Boris Osadciw, Larry Charpiat said:

 > That did not answer my question.  The Pioneer DMR600 will
 > hold six CD
 > ROM disk in a cassette in the one cd player.  Can you switch
 > to any of
 > the 6 CD disc's without manually pressing a button on the
 > Drive through
 > software from a menu on the BBS?

I will act as though you have 6 extra drives except of course you can't write
to them.

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From: ANDREW CHATHAM                         Number: 3617
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/20/93 12:23p
Subj: 7th Guest $40                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I would like a listing please:


 Andrew Chatham
 2248 Southwood Rd.
  Jackson,MS 39211

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From: ANDREW CHATHAM                         Number: 3618
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 12:36p
Subj: 7TH GUEST PATCH                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

What exactly does t7g SBPRO patch do and why is it that no one knows
the number for the Origin BBS . What is it?

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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 3619
  To: MIKE GLADDEN                             Date: 08/19/93  6:47p
Subj: Re: 7Th Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

               *****  Quoting Mike Gladden to Joey Ratzsch  *****

 JR> I would like to trade some CD-ROM disks for a copy of 7th guest.
 JR> If intereseted, drop me a line and you can see whats avalible.  If you
 JR> want to buy them, I am also selling them.
 JR> Later
 JR> Joey

 MG> I might be willing to trade.  I'm looking for Adult oriented stuff,
 MG> some sort  of CD which can aid in identifying prescription drugs, and
 MG> the US Street  Atlas.
 MG> MikeG

Mike, if nothing works out with Joey, I have Asian Ladies available in trade
for 7th Guest, if (1) interested, and (2) over 21.  Echo back, enquiring minds
wanna know ;)  Regards!

,\\ark




... If it wasn't for C, we would be using BASI, PASAL and OBOL!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 3620
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/19/93 10:34a
Subj: CD-ROMs                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Doug,

 > We sell most of the latest cds out such as So Mucb Shareware 3, Software
 > Vault 2, Nightowl 9, Simtel, CD Winbox.  Prices are herre in the echo
 > under our ad for PCJ.

          Thanks, I already ordered via your BBS, but nothing arrived yet! Hey
that order was placed over 36 hours ago and STILL nothing in my mailbox! Guess
I just have to keep waiting <grin>.

          On a more serious note, you are providing a great service Doug, and
the BBS looks great.  Keep it up.


                                                   Cheers,

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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 3621
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/19/93 10:39a
Subj: MULTI VS SINGLE PLAYERS                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Doug,

 > What drives can you get that are daisy chainable and allow all 6 to be
 > hooked up to one machine for $150 each?

          Almost any if you are on a lan and can spare an old 286 machine. Get
a copy of OPTINET, hook any old CD-ROM drives onto their own controllers and
configure them.  Kick start OPTINET and away you go.  I currently use 8 drives
in this manner but I don't see anything up to 24 drives as being a problem if
the motherboard will take the cards.


                                                   Cheers,

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From: STEVE KISER                            Number: 3622
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/17/93 12:12p
Subj: Pro-Phone 93 Crosspost                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

=====================================================================
* Forwarded by Chris Gunn (1:202/1008)
* Area : ENTREPRENEUR (FidoNet - Entrepreneur Conference)
* From : Don Bosman, 1:159/950 (10 Aug 93 16:17)
* To   : All
* Subj : ProPhone 93 ... not good
=====================================================================
I just bought a copy of ProPhone 93 CD-ROM and would like to warn others
  off this blatantly misleading product.
Free Spirit Software {of Columbus, Indiana}, the company I bought it from
  refuses to take it back and ProCD {of Marblehead, Massachusetts} the
  company that sells it refuses to do anything, period.
I wasted $100. and hope you won't.
It is advertised as being "The National Telephone Directory on CD-ROM"
  but the listings are not up to date and are not searchable by
  category.
The SIC codes are very much mis-labeled which makes searching a
  classification to be a time waster.  I am used to seeded lists but not
  to inaccurate ones.  For instance weight reduction companies are listed
  as Escort services.  Several other retail stores are too.
My business is not listed, despite being in the yellow pages for six
  years.  My residential number is incorrect.

I specifically wanted this resource to make a mailing list for reaching
  130 retail stores in a chain.  I do business with several and wish
  to reach more of them.  Most have been in business for more two years,
  70 of them have been in business for more than five years, and should
  be on a list that claims to be for 1993.  Only 26 of them  were listed
  and the addresses of some of them are incorrect.
In checking listings for several companies that I do business with,
  I found the number of employees to be wrong, stores established three
  years ago to be missing, and SIC codes to be in error.

Please save yourself the aggravation and folly of dealing with this
  product.  Get your mailing lists from a reputable company with a track
  record that is willing to guarantee the accuracy of their product.
  ProCD does not, and Free Spirit wishes to stand behind a policy of "we
  just re-sell it, it is up to you to know the product".

                                     Don Bosman

 + Origin: The Lighthouse CBCS HST/V.32, 150+ echos, 517-321-0788 (1:159/950)
=====================================================================

 * SLMR 2.1a * A white lie is an aversion of the truth


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From: WYATT WOLFE                            Number: 3623
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93  7:26a
Subj: Mitsumi Drivers                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello, could one of you fine people please freq me the latest  cdd & cds device
driver? I am running 1.50 and assume that this is way outdated... It would only
take a few seconds at 14.4 thanks in advance!

Wyatt Wolfe
Snoopy's
1:114/214 FIDO
[phone]

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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3624
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/20/93 11:23a
Subj: New Echo - Multimedia                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Ismail!

Tuesday August 17 1993 07:44, Ismail Arslangiray wrote to All:

 IA> I have started a new echo area called MULTIMEDIA
 IA> I will do the initial feeding, if you like to get linked, please send a
 IA> net mail and I will start feeding your node.

Can you send it to my Boss Node for me...??? Bob Brisco is his name!

BTW did you get my Netmail...????

Mark Smith

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From: LARRY LABAS                            Number: 3625
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 11:44a
Subj: Adult CD'S.                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

I'm looking for some adult CDROM's.

Please netmail 1:249/108, 69:3005/3 with any details/for sales that you might
have.

If you are a business, please send your lists to the above address.

Fax capable as well. 613-547-4539.

Prefered Netmail with the lists included though.

Also, distributor's looking for Canadian outlets welcome.

Larry

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3626
  To: MEL ORECKLIN                             Date: 08/18/93  5:48a
Subj: CD'S BY PHONE...                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>  GIFs Galore ............................ $25.95 *

>All prices are in Canadian funds. Prices subject to change without notice.

You MIGHT want to post this line a little more prominantly - otherwise expect a
lot of flames for your "high prices" from folks that don't read your WHOLE
message....

 8-)


 * SLMR 2.1a * "CATS. CATS ARE NICE." - Death, "Sourcery"

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3627
  To: TIM KLAN                                 Date: 08/18/93  4:04p
Subj: MITSUMI AUDIO                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>BF>Odd - I can play audio on MY Mitsumi under Desqview here....

> Through the Headphone jack on front

Yes

>or through soundblaster's audio  output

Not applicable - I have never owned a sound card (though I'm looking at the ATI
as a possible future aquisition)....
,

 * SLMR 2.1a * Denyal: Don't Even Know You Are Lying.

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3628
  To: DON HOUSTON                              Date: 08/19/93 11:40a
Subj: GIF/ANIM DISKS ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>What is a good video disk for BBS use?  Looking for G Gifs of everything under
>the sun.

So Much Screenware or GIFs Galore should both fit your preferances....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Waco is a halfway point between Dallas, Austin, and Hell

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3629
  To: BRYAN SPEED                              Date: 08/19/93 11:43a
Subj: MITSUMI DRIVE(S)                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Does the Mitsumi $200 dollar drives allow more than one drive to be installed.

Yes, but you have to use a card for each drive.


 * SLMR 2.1a * I hate it when my Schwartz gets twisted!

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3630
  To: DON KULHA                                Date: 08/19/93  3:01p
Subj: WIERD SCIENCE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> TH> But have you been in CDs longer than the dude who did the Magnum discs?

>       I don't know if Bob has (he can answer for hisself). He's got to be a
>bit brighter in any case...who, besides a charter member of Thom's fan club,
>would set up their disks so you have to use XARC?

Outside of his ARC fixtation, Tony's not a a bad guy - come to the One BBS Con
and you can discuss the whole thing with him in person....

 8-)


 * SLMR 2.1a * Old immortals never die....

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3631
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93  3:08p
Subj: InterNational Dealers Wanted            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                 International Software Distributors WANTED!!

                    Looking for International distributers
                          Dealers, and Re-Sellers.

                          **  No EndUsers Please

                               Please Contact:
                                Roc Hernaudez

                 Phone: [phone] or Fax: [phone]

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3632
  To: MARK SMITH                               Date: 08/20/93  3:23p
Subj: Re: Australian Dealerships              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 12 Aug 93  20:27:05, I heard Mark Smith shout to All:

MS> G'day All!
MS>
MS> I will consider anyone who is interested in setting up a dealership in Sydn
MS> Australia. I have a US contact in Bob Brisco (1:2602/115) and I would be ha
MS> to make available a catalog of products available to the rest of Australia.
MS>
MS> Let me know...
MS>
MS> Mark Smith

Could you give me more info on this, and who is the Main Contact, and there
phone number ?? Are they a company,and if so, What is the Name. ?

                   Thanks !

                             ....|<evin




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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3633
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 11:57a
Subj: Review of T&A to the Maxx 1/3           Refer: NONE
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   This is a review of "T&A to the Maxx" (TAM), a recently released
   adult CD from the folks at Profit Publishing (PP). They're the ones
   that gave us the FAO series of adult CDs as well as the "MEGA-"
   series of shareware CDs.

   Statistics
   ==========

   TAM has 2,937 GIF images on it, plus collections of "animation"
   files (GL, DL, FLI, etc.), text files, and games.  The GIFs total
   547,710,776 bytes for an average size of 186,486 bytes per GIF.
   This figure fairly represents the size and resolutions of the
   images on the CD.

   I found 77 duplicated file names within the CD itself.  Of these,
   three turned out to be false leaving 74 truly duplicated images.
   That computes out to less than 3% duplication - not perfect, but
   also not too bad.  Typically, duplicated files appeared in separate
   directories, but not always.

   However, when compared to a data base of 47,612 GIF file names, I
   found 2,897 "hits" against TAM.  Clearly this is a classic case of
   re-hashing.  The distribution of hits was as follows:

       Seedy 6-Pak    1601                Seventh Heaven        3
       BB Rel. 1       143                BB Rel. 3           115
       Ecstasy         225                FAO-2              1638
       FAO-3          1204                FAO-Gold            325
       PCPIX-1          66                PCPIX-2              21
       PCPIX-3           2                Visual Fantasy       98
       Pork-Ware 1      40                STORM-3             154

   I didn't unzip and view the animation files, nor the text files,
   nor attempt to play the games.  The animation file listing looked
   quite familiar; I suspect one would find the "re-use" factor fairly
   high there, too.

   Operations to follow...

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3634
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 11:58a
Subj: Review of T&A to the Maxx 2/3           Refer: NONE
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   Operations
   ==========

   The GIF files are collected into 10 sub-directories, each of which
   is subdivided into 1-3 more sub-directories.  The GIF directory
   names at best only hint at their contents.  For example, "GR",
   "RR", and "XR" may be loosely interpreted to mean G/R/X-Rated,
   respectively; but then there's "WCNB" which is all B&D images and
   "SFTL" which is all male images.  Go figure.

   Of more interest is the sub-directories that divide the 10 main
   directories.  These are uniformly named "SSVGA", "SVGA", and "VGA".
   Each of the 10 "named" directories has 1 - 3 of these which, more
   or less, refer to the resolution of the images therein.  This
   scheme hearkens back to the FAO series which used a similar
   technique.  Personally, I prefer image groupings along the lines of
   subject matter.

   The "SSVGA" directories mostly contain 1024x768 images; the "SVGA"
   directories mostly contain 800x600 images; and the "VGA"
   directories contain 640x480 and lower images.  I say "mostly"
   because there are some "rogue" images in the "SVGA" and the "SSVGA"
   directories.  I call an image "rogue" when it reports itself as
   being one resolution, e.g. 800x600, when in reality it's a lower
   resolution scan.  For example, if an image was originally scanned
   in at 320x200 and then subsequently re-saved at a higher
   resolution, that's a "rogue" image.  Viewers will report it as
   having the higher resolution when in fact it doesn't from an image
   quality standpoint.  In all, I counted 542 "SSVGA" images, 315
   "SVGA" images, and 2080 "VGA" images.

   TAM is a no-frills CD - there's no real "front end", just the usual
   collection of PC viewers in a "DOSVIEW" directory.  Interestingly,
   PP also provided "MACVIEW" and "UNIXVIEW" directories which one
   would assume had viewers for those systems as well.  Now, "MACVIEW"
   I can understand but "UNIXVIEW" is a mystery: Unix (as many of you
   may know) is an OS hosted on a large variety of hardware platforms
   which makes program portability across those platforms easier, but
   not automatic.  At a minimum, a program written for PC Unix would
   have to be re-compiled before it could be run on, for example, a
   Sun Unix system.  Perhaps there's source code in the "UNIXVIEW"
   directory - I didn't check.  If so, that'd be an insightful
   "first".  If not, then those viewers may be less useful than the
   directory title would lead one to believe.

   I didn't "install" any of the viewers - there's no installation
   procedure defined.  One would have to copy the desired viewer files
   to their HDD, unzip them as necessary and go from there pretty much
   on their own.  This isn't a difficult process but it could be
   fairly arcane to the neophyte.

   There are "FILES.BBS" files on the TAM CD.  Further, there's
   corresponding "FILESX.BBS" files, too.  There's also a "CATALOG"
   directory that contains a full set of these .BBS files.  Sysops
   will undoubtedly appreciate these amenities.  A relevant and mildly
   amusing note: one of the duplicated file names - "OCT90.GIF" -
   which in reality turned out NOT to be duplicated imagery, have
   their file descriptions switched in the .BBS files.  I didn't
   check, but one could worry that some of the other 73 duplicated
   file names might suffer a similar fate.

   Visual to follow...

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3635
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 11:59a
Subj: Review of T&A to the Maxx 3/3           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   Visual
   ======

   The great majority of TAM's images have BBS logos or advertisements
   on them - most of them quite familiar: McHenry, EIC, etc.  Somewhat
   out of the mainstream, however, is the "SFTL" directory.  Therein
   are 34 "SVGA" images and 185 "VGA" images of nude males.  While
   none of the the images I saw in a cursory scan of those directories
   depict two or more males together, I wouldn't call them uniformly
   "artistic" - although that appellation would be more correct than
   "gay", IMHO.  While images of nude males aren't unheard of on CDs,
   a collection this large (200+) isn't all that common either.  Of
   the non-specific adult CDs that I've seen, TAM shares this
   characteristic only with Pork-Ware II.  One final note on this
   topic: a fair number of these images are monochrome and more than a
   few are obviously scanned amateur snapshots.

   Of the 40 or so file names that weren't "hits" against my file name
   database, only a handful looked unfamiliar to me.  Accordingly, TAM
   is likely destined to become a classic adult CD - a classic "Me,
   too!" CD, that is.  Despite its obviously rather recent pressing (a
   copy of version 2.04g of PKZIP is included), it's files are by and
   large somewhat dated.

   Bottom line:  If you already own two or more adult CDs,
   particularly FAO-2 and -3, TAM likely won't bring you many new
   images, aside from the male nudes.  What TAM does have going for it
   is a low price, comparable only to XXXExtreme by current postings
   in this echo, and the freebie MegaDEMO CD from PP if you purchase
   TAM from them.  PP's MegaDEMO has some handy CD-related utilities
   on it as well as some samplings of various free/shareware programs,
   sound files, etc.  PP will also sell you caddies at a low price
   with purchase of a CD.  Those perquisites aside, IMHO there are
   better choices for one's first, and certainly second or third adult
   CDs - way better enough to warrant a higher price.

   On a more generic note, but certainly applicable to this review, if
   one wanted to buy a few (1 to 3) adult CDs, and having
   non-duplicated files was of *primary* importance, the order of
   choice (according to my database) is: PCPIX-3, 7th Heaven, and
   Busty Babes.  These CDs have a non-duplication factor of 88.5%,
   78.3%, and 65.8%, respectively.  That is to say, of all the files
   on each of these CDs, those percentages of file names on those CDs
   are not duplicated anywhere else in my database.

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From: FELIX LEE                              Number: 3636
  To: MATT BLOCKER                             Date: 08/19/93  4:42p
Subj: Shareware                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a Shareware Extravaganza shareware  FOUR CD set. This 4-cd set contains
over 2gigs of compressed files that cover all aspects of computing. $80 Candian
Funds shipping included OR $62 US shipping included.

Please call Felix at 204-287-2028.
thanx


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From: DOUG STRIEFLER                         Number: 3637
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 12:05a
Subj: Swimsuit                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

wanted

does anyone know of a swimsuit cd

where to buy

and how much

                            doug


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From: KEN LEBLEU                             Number: 3638
  To: DEALERS AND ALL                          Date: 08/18/93 10:55p
Subj: Cdrom upgrades  !help!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm interested in purchasing a CDROM package, and was wondering what costs I
would be looking at.  As well, any good packages that would be recommended
over another?

I would be looking for something that has CDROM, Sound card with SPeech, and
assorted software bundles.


ANy help would be greatly appreciated.

P.s. I'm writing from WPG,Manitoba, Canada, thus shipping charges would have
to be included in your estimates.

Thanks Ken

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3639
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  8:41p
Subj: BUSTY 3.0 SPECIAL!                      Refer: NONE
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___________________________________________________________________________
                    |                                  |
                    O                                  O
                    |                                  |
                +------------------------------------------+
                |  INTRODUCING . . . . . . .               |
                |                                          |
                |       B U S T Y   B A B E S   3.0        |
                |                                          |
                |                 $25.00                   |
                |                                          |
                | She's back, she's better, she's . . . .  |
                | BUSTY BABES 3.0!                         |
                |                                          |
                | New interface + new sizzling pictures!   |
                | Get yours now!  Limited time offer with  |
                | limited quantities.    **  H  O  T  **   |
                +------------------------------------------+

 SPECIAL BONUS:  Get the PowerPak Gold 3.0 shareware CD for only $10
                 additional w/ purchase! (Made by Busty's creators)

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3640
  To: SCOTT MARTIN                             Date: 08/19/93  8:42p
Subj: CD ROM Disk                             Refer: NONE
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SM>Hi Mike, I see you are getting a lot of good references. I wanted you to
give
SM>me a reference for a Good CD ROM Disk to buy from you. I run a Gaming BBS. I
SM>am looking for a disk with NOTHING but Shareware and P.D. Games and Cracks.

Scott,

The GAMEWARE Collection is the best I've seen.  We have them in stock
at $24.  Around 640mb of games, some older but mostly the newer releases.
Fully BBS-compatible with file listings in several formats.  Gimme a
call if you're interested!

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3641
  To: MING CHAN                                Date: 08/19/93  8:42p
Subj: NIGHTOWL                                Refer: NONE
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MC>Do you known of or have you encountered any problems with such adult
MC>CD-ROM being shipped across the border?

Ming,

We've never had one seized to Canada, but did have one that got nabbed
en route to Great Britain.

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3642
  To: DAVID NAFFIS                             Date: 08/19/93  8:42p
Subj: Nightowl                                Refer: NONE
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DN>I am interested in buying night owl 9 and the mystery cd. Can you give
DN>me some more info on it and how/where to send my money.

David,

The "mystery" CD is Phoenix 3.0.  (Shhhh - don't tell anyone)  Order
and shipping info:

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3643
  To: DAVID NAFFIS                             Date: 08/19/93  8:42p
Subj: CD'S ON SALE!                           Refer: NONE
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DN>I am also intrested in shareware overload. It seems you have a lot of good
DN>deals. Can you send me a list of cd's?

Be glad to.  Just call me up with your address, or d/l our catalog from
our BBS @ 509-457-0206.

bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3644
  To: STEVE KISER                              Date: 08/19/93  8:42p
Subj: CD's                                    Refer: NONE
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SK>Mike, just wanted to say my CD's arrived today. It's a pleasure doing
busines
SK>with you. Prompt service and great prices. Thanks!

Thanks for the compliment Steve.  Your order is appreciated.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3645
  To: RON DWIGHT                               Date: 08/19/93  8:42p
Subj: CD-ROMs                                 Refer: NONE
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RD>     I am interested in buying the latest versions of GREAT CD-Roms.  I have
RD>particular interest in GR8 shareware collections with particular reference
to
RD>subscription CDs such as Walnut Creek do with Simtel-20, CICA-Windows and
the
RD>like.  Any info you have may net you a regular customer, same goes for
anyone
RD>else reading this, Good CD-Roms are in short supply in Finland <grin>.

Catalog on the way!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3646
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  8:43p
Subj: CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!                     Refer: NONE
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___________________________________________________________________________

                STARVECTOR CD-ROM LIQUIDATION SPECIALS!
___________________________________________________________________________

Starvector Software has recently acquired all remaining inventory of CD-
ROM International, and our shelves are buckling, so we need YOUR help to
MOVE THIS MERCHANDISE!!  Many items AT or BELOW cost on this limited time
special, so if you see an item you need, hurry!  It may not be there
tomorrow.  Sale limited to stock on hand.  Sale ends when it's all gone!

                              GENERAL TITLES
                              --------------
Q & A 4.0...........$34   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15   House of Games......$20
Compton's Interact..$95   US Wars: Korea......$29   US Wars: Des. Storm.$29
US Wars: Vietnam....$29   US Wars: WWII.......$29   Guinness Disc 92....$16
Super CD 2..........$15   Super CD 1..........$14   Programmers Megapak.$29
Canadian Shareware..$19   MAC Shareware.......$22   Clipart Heaven......$19
5Star Prem. Windows.$27   Otherware I.........$17   Jedi Collection.....$39
History of Jazz.....$48   Hacker Chronicles...$24   Reel Clips..........$35
Kodak Photo CD......$18   Phoenix 3.0.........$12   Game Arena..........$10
Learning Adventure..$10   Am. Bus. Phnbk 93...$35   Barney Bear Space...$18
Cookbook Heaven.....$18   Dinosaur Adventure..$29   Ham Radio 3.0.......$10
Colossal Cookbook...$10   Clipart Galore......$25   Window Master.......$17
Windoware...........$10   Jokes & Pranks......$10   ProPhone Business...$27
King's Quest V......$18   Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$22   Great Wonders.......$32


                            ADULT TITLES (21+)
                            ------------------
Ecstasy.............$25   Hot Pix 3...........$24   Hot Pix 4...........$24
Storm 3-Pak.........$59   Porkware 1..........$30   Porkware 2..........$31
Digital Dreams......$24   Women of Venus......$25   Swimware 93.........$24
All Beauties........$29   Southern Beauties...$32   Adult Reference Lib.$24

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3647
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93  9:18p
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING UPDATE!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD NEW CD
  ---------------------------------------------------------------------
                            >>> UPDATE! <<<

TITLE:  Precision Mapping v 1.5b

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UPDATE:  Precision Mapping version 1.5b is now available!  Improvements
over version 1.2 include a much improved city and landmark search
function, along with an online tutorial!  A few minor keyboard control
bugs have also been fixed, along with a few additional features.  This is
the latest release of this fantastic mapping system, and is now even more
awesome, with improved performance and new features!  Note: For those who
have already purchased version 1.2, you may trade it in for a free upgrade
to version 1.5b.  Please contact us at 509-457-2892 for more info.
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DESCRIPTION:  A complete, detailed map of the United States, with search,
edit, draw, and print capabilities.  ZOOM in on any city, right down to
the area code, zip code, or even street!  Look up addresses, measure
distances, plan travel routes, print laser-quality maps, and clip images
for export to other programs!  All in a user-friendly environment!

SPECIAL FEATURES:  Full CAD features with draw, edit, and control over
all presentation aspects, including text, alignment, color, line width,
etc.  OUTPUT to file (raster or vector), screen, dot matrix printer,
laser printer, or HPGL plotter.  DYNAMIC ZOOM in/out/all.  Window,
pan, scale, to any address, city, zip, or area code.  CLIP all or any
part of an image to a .PCX file for import into your favorite word
processor or desktop publishing program.

FREEBIE:  Includes the latest edition of the American Business Phonebook
with over 10 million business listings, absolutely FREE!

REQUIREMENTS:  EGA or higher monitor, DOS 4.0+, 550K free RAM, 2MB of
expanded memory, 10MB of (temporary) hard drive space, and any ISO9660
CD-ROM drive.  Mouse recommended.

PRICE:  $88

Mike sez . . .
"If you think Street Atlas was great, wait til you see this one!  Better,
more elaborate features, and it runs under plain ol' DOS!  This mapping
program even has "Shannon Road", which is a little dirt road my dad and
uncles carved out when they planted their apple orchard.  How's that for
thoroughness!"

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: GARY SHADE                             Number: 3648
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 08/19/93 12:09a
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
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Overheard Tony Davis  say  to Mike Shannon on the subject of BUSTY BABES

TD> >Let us in on your situation . . . what are the details???  In what
TD> >state do you live?
TD>
TD>Oklahoma. The BBS had 16 CD Roms, 4 of which were 'adult'. They were
TD>FAO 3,
TD>Storm 2 & 3, and Busty Babes.  According to the officers that
TD>arrested me,
TD>anything that shows 'penatration' is obscene by State statute.

Perhaps a defense of '1's and '0's does *NOT* show anything. It is up to
the downloader (and their imaging software) to assemble them into a
meaningful graphic (or relationship). You could display hex dumps from
Debug to the jury etc. etc. etc.

You might want to contact the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), a not
for profit foundation. They recently won a case against the Secret
Service. A BBS operator had his equipment confiscated (like you). They
filed a civil suite under the Electronics Communications Privacy Act
(ECPA). In January (1993), the jury came down on the side of the
paintiffs. The case involved Steve Jackson Games of Texas.

If your system contains EMAIL - there is also a privacy issue involved
(through the communications act). Your users have the right of implied
privacy of their messages within your BBS. If the State were to read those
messages while in possession of your equipment, your users rights to
privacy might be considered to be violated. In which case, they would have
redress against the State.

Call EFF at 202-544-9237. Or Internet at [e-mail]. See if they can help
you.

If you wish - you can Netmail me through a friends system at 1:282/4025.
Good luck.




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From: CHANTHA LUEUNG                         Number: 3649
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93  1:20p
Subj: club saving                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Scenario:  Misses Jane is wondering around in a computer
           store to see if she can get a good deal on a
           Computer for her son, When suddenly, a strange
           man Screams (see below).


    (Characters :'J' is Misses Jane,   'G' is Mr. George)
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|                                                           |
|                C L U B    S A V I N G S                   |
|___________________________________________________________|
|                      (Announce)                           |
| (G)" Hold it!  Don't let that Dealer rip you OFF for      |
|      Your Computer, Hardware, and Software NEEDS!!!       |
|                                                           |
| You Should Decide HOW MUCH you should PAY for the items!" |
|                                                           |
| (J) "Did I hear you  Correctly?  Let see, If I wanted to  |
| purchase a computer or software for my kids, I name my    |
| price, and the price that I name is the price that I would|
| pay?"                                                     |
|                                                           |
| (G) "Exactly!  People just would not beleive it when I    |
| tell them about this Club Savings."                       |
|                                                           |
| (J) "What's the Catch?"                                   |
|                                                           |
| (G) "No catch You Simply have to be a club member :)"     |
|                                                           |
| (J) "How do I join this Club Savings?"                    |
|                                                           |
| (G) "Now That's the Easy part, Just fill out the attached |
|  Form below.  The hard part will be trying to decide what |
|  price to pay.  Hopefully you should make a decision that |
|  that you can live.  :)"                                  |
|                                                           |
| (J) "Thre's got to be a catch to this, It sound too good  |
|  to be True."                                             |
|                                                           |
| (G) "Well, you do have to pay the sales tax and shipping  |
|  because it is mail order only.  What you will be paying  |
|  is a little over what the dealer pays.  $2 dollars over  |
|  what the dealer pays to be exact."                       |
|                                                           |
| (J) "I don't get, if I'm paying $2's over what the dealer |
|  pays then I'm not deciding what price I'm going to pay.."|
|                                                           |
| (G) "You are absolutely right in a matter of speaking.    |
|  "Let me see if I can give you an example..."             |
|                                                           |
| (j) "OK, but it better be good!"                          |
|                                                           |
| (G) "Well, if the dealer puchases a Printer at a cost of  |
|  of $200 you can't Demand that he/she sell the printer    |
|  at a cost of $5's.  If the dealer sells the printer to   |
|  you at the price that you are demanding, then thats like |
|  me saying, "Hi, I just bought this printer for $200 and  |
|  I'm going to give it to you for $5 so I can go broke     |
|  because I have bags of money!""                          |
|                                                           |
| (J) "That makes sense, but why the $2's?  And if the      |
|  dealer isn't going to sell below what he/she paid then   |
|  then How am I deciding on the Price?"                    |
|                                                           |
| (G) "Now That's a good question.  First, the $2 add on is |
|  to cover the postage and paper work that has to be pro-  |
|  cessed by the dealer and Sceond what you are deciding on |
|  is how much the profit you want to give to the dealer."  |
|                                                           |
| (J) "Now I understand, but let me get this straight."     |
|   "So when a dealer gets a modem for $100 he/she then adds|
|    $2 to cover the cost of postage & paper work.  I then  |
|    decide how much to offer to buy it from the dealer.    |
|    So if I am feeling very generous, I can offer to buy   |
|    the modem at a cost of $120 and let the dealer make a  |
|    a profit of $18?"                                      |
|                                                           |
| (G) "That is Correct!"  "Are you interested?"             |
|                                                           |
| (J) "You Bet!  Just let me have the paper work..."        |
|___________________________________________________________|

Interested?  Call Chantha at [phone] Voice Leave E-mail
or call 298-2705 by modem &  leave e-mail to The System
Administrater and how you can be contacted.
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From: RITA LAWS                              Number: 3650
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 08/20/93  7:10a
Subj: OIE                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Tony, Should OIE members assume that OIE will be back on-line (minus 4 CD)
after the equipment is returned? Are you confident of winning the equipment
back? What sort of time frame do you think lies ahead? Rita Laws


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From: RITA LAWS                              Number: 3651
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/20/93  7:18a
Subj: GRANDMA AND ME                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi. If your other buyer drops out in a few weeks, please leave me a note. I am
interested in CD programs for children, new and used. Have a nice day.


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From: TONY DAVIS                             Number: 3652
  To: RITA LAWS                                Date: 08/20/93 11:54a
Subj: OIE                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >Tony, Should OIE members assume that OIE will be back on-line (minus 4 CD)
 >after the equipment is returned? Are you confident of winning the
 >equipment back? What sort of time frame do you think lies ahead? Rita Laws

Rita, I'm not confident of anything.

Tony

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From: MIKE MCCUE                             Number: 3653
  To: LARRY CHARPIAT                           Date: 08/15/93  8:59p
Subj: Pioneer DMR600 & 604X                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > That did not answer my question.  The Pioneer DMR600
 > will hold six CD
 > ROM disk in a cassette in the one cd player.  Can you
 > switch to any of
 > the 6 CD disc's without manually pressing a button on
 > the Drive through
 > software from a menu on the BBS?

  Incase no one answers your question quickly.. here is what I understand of
the drive.. There is a program called DISK that comes with it.. and you simply
type DISK 1 or DISK 2 from the DOS prompt to change disks.. You may daisy chain
up to (either 7 or) 8 drives this way.. using a different drive letter for each
CDROM drive (the machine, not discs).  You may also configure it to where each
disc is a different drive letter.. ie. D: E: F: G: H: I: for the first CDROM
machine, and so on.. But you can only daisy chain 2 drives with this
configuration.

  Hope this helps..

      Mike

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From: MIKE MCCUE                             Number: 3654
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/15/93  9:01p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500
 > internal cd rom drives for $99.   I have about 20
 > left.  30 day warranty included.   205-824-2552


  Can I get some specs on these?  Access time?  Such?

   Mike

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From: MIKE MCCUE                             Number: 3655
  To: YVES DESJARDINS                          Date: 08/15/93  9:03p
Subj: CD for trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > BattleChess Enhanced Edition
 > Microprose Mantis & Civilization.

 I am interested in the Microprose Mantis and Civilization game..   All I
really have to offer is the Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia version
1.  I dont have any manuals.. but c'mon, how hard is it to navigate an
encyclopedia?  I can be reached at 1:395/18.79 or 43.79..

        Mike

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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 3656
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/20/93  4:42p
Subj: GRANDMA AND ME                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   Thanks Al.... I will do that. In fact, I will put you in the database
of suppliers.


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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 3657
  To: CRAIG MOSER                              Date: 08/20/93  4:48p
Subj: Mac CD-ROMS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   I will be making a purchase of an LC3 for my daughter within a few
weeks. It is through a grant, and I need to wait for the check. Please
mail me a description of these CdRom disks, and how much you want to
sell them for. My address is:

   11749 Prado Del Sol
   El Paso, TX 79936

   Thanks!


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From: SCOTT MCKNIGHT                         Number: 3658
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/20/93  9:35p
Subj: New Echo - Multimedia                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>I have started a new echo area called MULTIMEDIA
Are you looking for links to get backbone status?  I'll be interested if if you
are.

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From: SHANE SNYDER                           Number: 3659
  To: RON COLEMAN                              Date: 08/11/93 11:53a
Subj: Adult CD's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RC>Can someone tell me a good quality Adult Cd that has Gif's and animations fo
RC>a reasonable cost like around $30 to $40 ? Or any one have a used one for
RC>sale.I only have 1 disk right now and its for my kids (animals).Thanks.

Ron,   I have Storm II which I will sell for 20$ plus shipping.  It is a
good CD with lots of variety.  All color (I think).  Honestly, I know I
haven't seen ever picture on this CD as it has thousands of pictures and
many animations.  Let me know if you're interested.
      ps.  I also have the So Much Shareware CD-ROM I would sell for
           another 20$...
                                      Shane
 ■ SLMR 2.1a ■

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3660
  To: STEVE GERWECK                            Date: 08/20/93  9:55p
Subj: Busty babes#1                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >  PR> Have Busty #1, know any one that wants to buy it?
 > How much?


Make me a offer I want to sell!
Call me at 512-939-9822   This is the real one, so call before its gone!
                 Pat

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From: JON SANCHEZ                            Number: 3661
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 08/18/93 10:08p
Subj: Freedom ?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CB>"Possession of obscene material" -- what a country (though one hopes this is
CB>actually a manifestation of Oklahoma BibleBeltism)!  Next it'll be illegal t
CB>talk about not paying taxes.  I remember when what a person did in the
CB>privacy of their home, not infringing on another's rights, was no one else's
CB>business. Good luck.

  The laws that our legislation is passing will be the demize of
"freedom". Because the FBI had nothing much to do, Ronny "Butt-head"
Ragan passed a bill for the FBI to legally spy on American citizens
(not in so many words). Our government pays some farmers not to grow
produce in the central valley which causes high prices at the market and
what about the defiset?
  Finstien's office recieved 3 to 1 calls against the Clinton tax plan
and she still voted for the plan. (Hows that)
  On only a suspision, the DEA (Drug Enforcement Agency) has the right
to convenscate all possesions for a indeffinate time (house, car, bank
account, ect...). They did this to a man in E.Palo Alto and he had to
"prove" himself inocent and still didn't get his possesions back (1989).
          "Inocent until proven guilty - A Fairy Tale".
  What about the chip the FBI want to put into all computers? To be
able to enter all networked (including BBS, Networks at your work,
ect.) systems without being detected.
  If a 1, 2, 3 or 4 year old sneeks out of your house and lets just say
sits on the curb, a neighbor can annonomoucely call a phone number and
claim child-abuse, child-neglect or what ever, and the parents must
prove themselves inocent of these charges. (How bout that)

  5 cent tax on gas doesn't really affect me much, right ? Wrong.
  Truckers that ship produce, clothing, software, computer products,
company to company products that end up in our homes, PG&E, phone
company, cable company, and hundreds more will pass there cost down to
us and include a price increase on all products.

I got a question for you, how many law enforcement agencies are in the
U. S. and what is the purpose of each of these agencies ?

                           and

What is the $4.8 Million Miscelanious mean in the U. S. Gov. budget?

        Open for views of others opinion whether pro or con...

                Looking beyond the smoke

Ken

 * OLX 2.1 TD * It's only a hobby ... only a hobby ... only a
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From: MARK WILLIAMSON                        Number: 3662
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93  9:25p
Subj: SONY CD ROM                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have two Sony CD Rom drives Model CDU535-01.  Can someone out there tell me
if these are good drives and what kind of interface card they connect to.  I
got them at a swap meet and don't know how to hook them up.  What about
terminator/DRQ settings?  Help me somebody!

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 3663
  To: SANDELEH FRANCIS                         Date: 08/18/93 11:56p
Subj: Re: toshiba cdrom                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> KT>   Like I said the Drive I bought from you seems to be KT> working
-> fine..However about once every 15 second the LED

-> i bought 2 CDs from michael konor, and the first drive does that (the
-> led blinks all the time) but the 2nd one doesnt!  go figure...

I have heard that when the LED is blinking, that either the Drive is
dirty or the Laser unit need aligning.... anyone else heard of this?

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From: CARL JOHNSON                           Number: 3664
  To: DAVID JEDLICKA                           Date: 08/20/93  5:58p
Subj: Did it work?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Yo Dave, this is the second time that I have tried to leave you a
message.  This time I only joined the forum with the fido net prefix.
If this works then we will know what the deal is.  If you read this
leave me a return.                   Peace  Carl
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From: ANISH ACHARYA                          Number: 3665
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 08/20/93  5:41p
Subj: Mitsumi LU005 CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Greg:

What CD's are they?  How fast is the drive?  Would you be willing to sell
indivual pieces of the package?

Regards,

anish acharya

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From: ANISH ACHARYA                          Number: 3666
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93  6:03p
Subj: Shareware CD-ROM disc's                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

All,

Hello!  I am a Sysop running a small, and fairly new bulletin board system.  I
have a high speed modem, and a CD-ROM drive, which makes a good combination
for busy file area's.  I currently have Nite Owl 7, which cost me 65$ at a
special price.  But from what I have seen in here, I was *ripped* off.  Plus
about everyone in Kingston (my home town, that's Kingston Ontario) has Nite
Owl 7,8 or 9.  I want quality files, that have variety and are not to old.  I
want probably 3-5 more discs.  But I don't know what to buy.  I have ordered
that SoundWare disc, but I don't know what else to get.  Should I get Nite Owl
9?  Is it THAT much better then 7?  What is So Much Shareware like?  Any
information would be greatly appreciated.  I would also like to know about
daisy chained CD-ROM drives.  Does anyone have a unit which will play 6 CD's
simeltanously?  What about a rotating drive?  How would you use a Rotating
drive system on a multi node BBS?  Again, any info would be appreciated.

Regards, And thanks in advance!!

Anish Acharya

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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3667
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 08/19/93  8:53a
Subj: DUTY BEING CHARGED.                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> VS>$3.78 GST. So, a "free" disc ending up costing over $10. This
-> means that
-> If the disc was free ($0), what percentage sales tax did they
-> apply to get $3.78?

   They apply a 7% GST tax and a 5-6% duty on the retail value of the
package - if there's any indication of what the normal charge would be,
they charge it on that. If there's no indication, they'll estimate (and
you can bet its high). They don't care if you're trading discs, getting
free demos, or receiving a disc that came from Canada in the first place
(according to a local *slightly rude* Customs officer).
    The bonus kicker is that software is supposed to be duty free under
the Free Trade Act... but you have to prove the item originated in the
US or Canada, AND they claim the CD-ROM (the discs itself, not the
software on it) is not included in the Act.

    Vince
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From: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                      Number: 3668
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/20/93  9:33p
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > In a message to Blaine Richard <08-18-93 00:02> Steve
 > Hecker wrote:

 > SH>   > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
 > SH>   > From Original 35mm Slides
 > SH>
 > SH>          Blaine, pardon me for asking, but why would anyone pay for a
 > SH>  disk filled with gifs of senior citizens ? :-)

 > Mr. Hecker, I don't know what YOU are looking for
 > (teenage girls?),
 > but senior citizens, THE MODELS ARE NOT!  The models
 > that appear in

Wow, it seems to me that you are being a little thin skinned. It seems to me
that the senior citizens remark is in response to the line that says 675
Megs-OVER 65 Models- with the "OVER 65 Models" being the keywords. Note also
that he put the smiley at the end of the remark.

I guess some people just can't see or take a little joke. Personally I got a
chuckle out of it.

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From: STEPHEN THOMPSON                       Number: 3669
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 08/20/93  2:15p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Are you selling? if so what have you got available?

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 3670
  To: WES TAPP                                 Date: 08/19/93  4:25p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WT>Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work with
WT>QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved
WT>around by QEMM.  Perplexed beyond belief, maybe I need a drink.
WT> Any ideas would help.

If you DO "need" a drink, you are in very serious trouble indeed.  I walked
away from the booze nearly 6 years ago, after more than 40 years of heavy
hitting, and never looked back.  And I've never felt better. Threw away the
cigarettes, too.  I can breathe again.

More to the point, though, I do NOT understand why you and so many others
claim troubles with the Mitsumi drivers.  I've not had the first hint of a
problem with mine.  FWIW, here's the lines that matter from

My Config.sys:
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS RAM ROM ST:M X=B000-B0FF I=0C00-0FFF R:2
DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\DEV\MTMCDS.SYS /D:MSCD001 ...
          /P:300 /A:0 /M:2 /E /T:3 /I:2
SET CD=YES
DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
lastdrive=G
; in fact, the CD-ROM is last drive, and is designated F:\ ; after 2 floppies
and 2 hard drives.  3 meg of RAM is E:\.

and Autoexec.bat:
C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD001

It works like a champ every time.  I use a very reliable, and stable, and user
friendly, DOS 5 and QEMM 7.01, in a 386/7-25 with the max of 16 megs, with 3
continuously busy COM ports, and two other applications; the CPU is one busy
fellow, and there is precious little room for luxurious buffers that really
don't help *me* all that much. If I want more buffers, I'll have to castrate
the machine somewhat, giving up some of the functions this thing performs.  You
have to be selective about what you want YOURS to do; it does have limits, but
the bottom line is a Mitsumi drive CAN be made to work without much effort.

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Freedom is not a gift, it is something you earn.


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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 3671
  To: LOIS FRANKEL                             Date: 08/13/93  3:30p
Subj: Cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JM> Or, you could save it as an article and use Vern Buerg's LIST.COM to
 JM> find and collect the portion. You might also locate the file by using
 JM> GREP on the list of files to locate directly the filename, bypassing
 JM> the engine, and then editing a copy of that file

Now that I re-read what I scribbled in haste, above, I apologize for not being
more clear about the other system I use, and use more frequently now that I
think of it.  In the root directory of the various discs are the usual helpful
files, and a very few DIRs.  If I choose not to use the generic search engine
that is provided with many discs, I usually use LIST.COM right from the root,
and paw thruogh the various dirs and sub-dirs, quickly looking at various
files.

The Bureau discs I've looked at recently have only one major DIR, with dozens
of sub-dirs, sometimes named with such generic names as 0000 to 0999.  Each of
these will contain a file or group of related files, all of them in straight
text form.  It isn't easy to find a particular file without a GREP-type
utility, unless you have lots of time, or lots of luck.  Once you do find it,
though, it's straight text, easy to edit or whatever.

LF>If the files are pure text (I have to admit, I haven't taken the time to
LF>look at the Bureau CD to see if that's the case), there are other
LF>search-engines that can be applied to them - I've written some myself and
LF>have access to others. A quick & dirty little utility I wrote lets me take
LF>a file with a list of search terms and apply it to a file to be searched
LF>(usually a collection of files that have beeen concatenated). The program
LF>spits out a file in which all the designated search strings are uppercased
LF>for easy recognition. Another program of mine accepts boolean searches
LF>and outputs all paragraphs which meet the stated criteria.

Then you should have no problems at all with the files on these various discs.
 I think it was Yogi Berra who once said "you could see an awful lot by just
looking", or something like that.  Good luck!

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * "We are face to face with our destiny."T.Roosevelt


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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 3672
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93  7:22p
Subj: Aviation CD                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anybody sell a CD dedicated to Aviation stuff?  I run an aviation oriented
BBS and would like something like this for my collection.


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From: TED KIDD                               Number: 3673
  To: CRAIG MOSER                              Date: 08/19/93 11:45p
Subj: Mac CD-ROMS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CM> Giga-ROM v3 - Macintosh shareware cdrom

I have a couple of questions about this disc...

1)  Is it BBS compatible (IBM BBS that it...)?
2)  How much?
3)  What is the date of the disc?

Thanks
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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From: SHANE HEDRICK                          Number: 3674
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 08/20/93  8:06p
Subj: Re: CD's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

}}}}}} On 08-18-93  06:54 Gene said to Shane {{{{{{
 SH>                 Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective



 GE> $10 is offered

   Gene,
        Not at this time.
                           Shane

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From: MARIO BONELLI                          Number: 3675
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 10:24p
Subj: Repair For Toshiba 3101                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Looking for any type of repair center or person willing to repair a Toshiba
3101 CDROM Drive at reasonable cost. Please send a reply through netmail.
Thanks.

Mario Bonelli - Ask Me About The Newly Forming AMIGA_HAM Echo - FREQ US!
*** CNET 2.63
... You non-conformists are all alike.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3676
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/21/93 12:49a
Subj: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *************************************************************************
                          7TH GUEST IS HERE!!!
 *************************************************************************

       PRICE:  $39!!        In stock, ready for immediate delivery.

 MINIMUM Requirements:  2 Megs RAM * 386DX CPU * 16 bit SVGA video card
 with at least 512K RAM * CD-ROM Drive w/ 150K per second minimum transfer
 rate * Sound card w/ FM and PCM sound * Mouse * Hard drive w/ 10 Megs free
 MSCDEX 2.2 or higher * DOS 5.0

 RECOMMENDED Hardware:  486sx 20mhz or faster CPU * 4 Megs RAM * Fast
 16 bit SVGA video card w/ 1 Meg RAM or local bus video * CD-ROM drive w/
 300k per second transfer rate and less than 300 ms access time * Roland
 LAPC-1, MT-32, or Sound Canvas and 16 bit PCM Sound Card

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       "This is the new standard in multimedia entertainment.  This
        is the future."       - Bill Gates, Chairman Microsoft Corp.
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     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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 * SLMR 2.1a * Hello, I am Mike and I am a baudaholic.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3677
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/21/93 12:49a
Subj: ADULT CD 7-PAK: $135                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                    [[[[  ADULT CD PACKAGE DEALS  ]]]]
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              ADULT CD 7-PAK                   SEEDY-ROM 7-PAK
              --------------                   ---------------
                  Storm 1                        Seedy-ROM 1
                  Storm 2                        Seedy-ROM 2
                  Storm 3                        Seedy-ROM 3
                 Hot Pix 2                       Seedy-ROM 4
                 Hot Pix 3                       Seedy-ROM 5
                 Hot Pix 4                       Seedy-ROM 6
                 Hot Pix 5                       Seedy-ROM 7

                 - $135 -                         - $159 -

              ($19.29 per CD)                  ($22.71 per CD)
             30-35% duplication                0% duplication!
                 BBS-Ready                        BBS-Ready
               27,000+ files                    32,000+ files

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     *         BONUS:  Porkware 1 only $25 w/ either package!         *
     ------------------------------------------------------------------

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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 * SLMR 2.1a * I'm leaving my body to science fiction...

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From: JOSHUA ECKERMAN                        Number: 3678
  To: ADAM GILBERT                             Date: 08/20/93 11:36p
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Do you know where i can get a good external cd-rom drive? I dont need any extra
software or anything just a drive. Later I'll will be looking for a shareware
disc. thanks.
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From: KEN TULLY                              Number: 3679
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/21/93 10:03a
Subj: Busty Ver. 1.0                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have Busty Babes First Edition for sale to the highest bidder.  It is from
the first pressing.  If interested you can call me at 203-387-3174 voice, Fax
at 203-387-3306 or BBS at 203-387-3289.


                                        Ken...


I forgot to mention...  It is an autographed copy from Lee & Blaine.

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From: JOHN TRIMBACK                          Number: 3680
  To: BILL ALEXANDER                           Date: 08/21/93  3:58p
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  *In a message dated 19 Aug 93   3:08:59 Bill Alexander writes:

> John,
> If you will guarantee against DOA you can ship them COD to:
> 509 Pine Ridge Ln.
> Aubrey, TX 76227
> Let me know how much the total is going to be. If you wish to call
> to talk to me about the transaction, my # is 817-440-3262 or
> 817-365-9045.
> Thanks a bunch!
> Bill
> --- CNet XFIDO 2.63
>  * Origin: House Atreides (1:124/6110)

Okay...this is for the simms right?
i will try to rescan messages..later


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 3681
  To: MARK GUTT                                Date: 08/20/93  7:49a
Subj: Busty Babes 1.0                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MG>I have a copy of the "BUSTY BABES" Volume 1, Release 1.0
MG>thats in excellent condition (used 3 or 4 times) that I
MG>would like to sell. If you are interested, leave your
MG>name,an offer, and how you can be reached.

   $10 plus $2.90 shipping

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209

Internet:   [e-mail]
Fidomail:   Gene Ehrich @ 1:226/22
MCI Mail:   497-8062
Prodigy:    RBCW80A
 ■ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 ■ Misspelled?  Impossible.  My modem is error correcting.


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 3682
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 08/20/93  7:52a
Subj: Multimedia Items For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GM>        The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
GM>        1992 Guinness Disk of Records: Multimedia Version
GM>        Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective: Volume I
GM>        The Software Jukebox: Home and Entertainment Edition

           $10 each is offered plus $2.90 shipping for total $42.90

GM>        MAKE ANY REASONABLE OFFERS!

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 ■ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 ■ PCDOS&MSDOS&CP/M&WINDOWSI'LLFIDDLEWITHOS/2WOULDN'TYOU


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 3683
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 08/20/93  7:54a
Subj: Publish It! 3.0 for Windo               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TS>Publish It! for Windows, version 3.0. Special CD-ROM version includes Adobe

TS>consider trading for other titles or best cash offer.

   $10 plus $2.90 shipping is offered.

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
 ■ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 ■ Your E-Mail has been returned due to insufficient volta


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From: LOUIS SOKOL                            Number: 3684
  To: ROBERT LEE                               Date: 08/21/93  3:47p
Subj: CDROM BBS Door!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RL> WHAT WILL CDMX2DOR DO?

RL>        In a word.... EVERYTHING.

RL>        Some features:

RL>        o       it will work with ANY BBS software (not just MAXIMUS)
RL> that                is capable of writing a long-style (52 line)
RL> DOOR.SYS                drop-file, e.g., WILDCAT, PCB, GAP, etc.  If
RL> your system
RL>                can't write a long-style DOOR.SYS, then you may still
RL>                use this software via a door conversion program that
RL>                makes long-style DOOR.SYS files.

Will this software work wit TBBS or TDBS?

* SPITFIRE v3.3
* Database Connections BBS * Supporting dBASE, Clipper, and More!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3685
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER@1:231/570                  Date: 08/19/93  6:26p
Subj: WANTED: DEALERS!!!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>  Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers

>                   Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
>                         Darrel Rivenbark

What sort of stuff do these folks handle?


 * SLMR 2.1a * ...to place me in her life will be hard and slow....

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3686
  To: DAVID HARRISON                           Date: 08/21/93  3:35p
Subj: Re: Night Owl 9 $25                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 19 Aug 93  13:31:33, I heard David Harrison shout to Kevin Plummer:

KP>                   N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0
DH> I am curious as to what Night Own 9.0 consist of... Specs, Megs, Types of
DH> Files, and if it has all files.bbs installed?

David,

  Night owl has a FILES.BBS, and it's a pretty nice CD.  It has about 60 file
areas, You can freq the complete list of files from me if you like ??  The
magic Name will be NIGHT

                        .....|<evin

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3687
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/21/93  4:14p
Subj: Dealers Wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

==========>>>>>>  W A N T E D     D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========

  Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers

                   Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
                         Darrel Rivenbark

  Cheapest Prices around !!!!

                                        1-800-865-5354
=================================================================

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From: JERRY SMITH                            Number: 3688
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 08/21/93  9:11p
Subj: Nodelist/copyright                      Refer: NONE
Read: 08/23/93  6:33a                       Private: No

Hi Tim--Get ahold of the U.S. Supreme Court Report for Feist
Publicactions, Inc. v Rural Telephone Service Company, Inc.
(113 L Ed 2d 358), decided March 27, 1991.  It provides a clear,
concise and pretty 'final' view of what copyright means for fact-
based compilations (such as the nodelist; the specific compilation
in this case was the telephone White Pages--they aren't subject to
copyright protection, even as a whole).  One of the key things it
says is that 'facts' cannot be protected by copyright and that
anyone can extract them from a compilation at will, even though the
compilation itself may meet copyright requirements for
'originality' and be subject to copyright protection.  Beyond that,
a copyright does not give an author authority to dictate how his
work may be used; it only protects him from defined 'infringement'
(unauthorized duplication, performance, etc.).  In order to provide
the sort of protection, or control, you are speaking of, one might
distribute material under license or contract, such as is done for
software and maintenance documentation (not that the 'shrink wrap'
license is a settled matter).  Here, in theory at least, the two
parties agree as to conditions of use.

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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 3689
  To: JIM ORCHARD                              Date: 08/21/93 11:38a
Subj: multi-speed cd-rom                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JO> I am looking for a good (new condition) multi-spin cd-rom drive I would
 JO> prefer it if it came with a controller also. I have heard that the NEC
 JO> drives are the best, unfortunatly also the most expensive. Anyone care
 JO> to enlighten me?

        I have a NEC CDR-74 (the BEST nec)

        User Data Capacity              680Mbytes/disk (MAX)
        Total # of blocks               333Kblocks/disk (MAX)
        User Data Blocks                2048bytes/block
        Data Trasnfer Rate              400Kbytes/second
        Burst Transfer Rate             4.4Mbytes/second (multi-Spin)
        Seek Time                       240 MSEC
        Hard Error Rate                 below 10 (to the)12
        memory buffer                   64K bytes

                This drive is AWESOME.  I got it in a MM upgrade kit
                for 1000.00.. (sondblaster/5 cd's/ect.)




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From: EARL BONSER                            Number: 3690
  To: LIEF BROOKS                              Date: 08/21/93 10:05a
Subj: Southern Beauties                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LB>*********************** Southern Beauties **********************
LB> THIS QUALITY DISC is NOT FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!!
LB>Since the images on "Southern Beauties" are not available for
LB>downloading on any BBS

Just how are we supposed to know that a file came off from this CD when
callers start uploading them?  They ARE going to start showing up on
BBS's.  I'm not about to buy it just to get a list of the names so I
don't post any of them by accident.  I will not intentionally post any
files from this CD, but I can't gurantee some won't slip in.  Any
suggestions?  Did you use some type of nameing pattern or convention
that we can watch for when creating this CD?  I think you'll find most
SysOp's more than willing to comply with your request to keep these
files off from their boards, but you must give us more info than "NOT
FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!!".  There are literally hundreds of thousands of
these types of images floating around and it's totally unreasonable for
you to expect us to recognize yours without some info about their names.


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic
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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3691
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/21/93 12:14p
Subj: Brand New Adult Cd'S!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS> Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00    Girls of Vivid 1 or 2.........45.00

What is Vivid?  I was looking through the (g-rated) GIFs on
Nightowl 9 and noticed that there are a few GIFs which advertise
Vivid (mostly rendered poolballs & cue on a pool table).  That it
was computer art suggests that it's some kind of computer art
magazine, but the above suggests that it's an adult magazine.  Is
it a magazine at all?  Are these two different Vivids?

 * SLMR 2.1 * Give me liberty or give me death.

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 3692
  To: DAN HATTERICK                            Date: 08/21/93 12:24p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DH>WT>Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work
DH>WT>with QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved

DH>my drivers.So I put the Qemm line in my Config.sys so now
DH>its just like running total Qemm except for Dos commands.  -

What do you mean?

 * SLMR 2.1 * Please smash head through monitor to continue.

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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3693
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 08/21/93  8:32p
Subj: WANTED: Dealers!!!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Kevin!

Tuesday August 17 1993 15:00, Kevin Plummer wrote to All:

 KP> ==========>>>>>>  W A N T E D     D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========

 KP>   Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers

 KP>                    Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
 KP>                          Darrel Rivenbark

 KP>   Cheapest Prices around !!!!

 KP>                                         1-800-865-5354
 KP> =================================================================

If you ***GENUINELY*** interested in having a connection in Australia, you can
fax me details on 61-46-471-499 (Australia) We are genuinely interested in
setting up with someone who is interested in getting there product to the
Australian Population. Don't tell me ytou are interested and then do nothing!

Awaiting your reply...

Mark Smith


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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3694
  To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM                        Date: 08/21/93  8:37p
Subj: Hey, what's happening..???              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Patrick!


Patrick we are keen to link up with anybody who is serious about having a
distributor in Australia. We don't want to waste anyone's time or efforts. We
are real not just mucking about. If you genuinely would like to set up a link
with us in Australia then please get back to me...???

Regs,

Mark Smith




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From: MARK SMITH                             Number: 3695
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/21/93  8:41p
Subj: Aussie Needs help...                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

G'day Doug!

Sunday August 15 1993 20:26, Doug Carpenter wrote to Mark Smith:


 DC> We have pretty good prices and would be glad to work with you on selling
 DC> CDs in Australia.  Do you have a fax?


Doug we are genuinely interested in linking up with someone in the US to sell
CD's and anything else in Australia for them. We will consider all serous
offers....Our FAX in Australia is 61-46-471-499. Please FAX us if you are
seroious...????

Regs,

Mark

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3696
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/20/93  6:54p
Subj: CD-Rom Dupes                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>You copycat!  8)  I hope you don't get as much griping and complaining
  >as I got when I posted these!

Haha  I noticed that. <G>  Hopefully, the notes will help.  I considered
asking you if you minded me using your format, but figured you wouldn't
mind.  Feel free to use my info if you ever want to.  That is a real
nice program.  I was glad to see it doesn't actually read the disk, just
the file list.  We probably need to do the adult discs too.  I KNOW
there are a lot of dupes among most of those. :)

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3697
  To: MATT BLOCKER                             Date: 08/20/93  7:14p
Subj: Shareware                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MB>Does anyone have any shareware CD for sale?

Plenty!  You can download catalog.zip from Computer Works for our
complete list of titles, prices & descriptions.  We accept online orders
for credit card and COD orders.

Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!                                           Jim...
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3698
  To: DYLAN GORDON                             Date: 08/20/93  7:55p
Subj: Gif CD-Rom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DG>    I'm looking for a G-RATED CD of GIf's....  I think Gif's Galore would
  >be good, but does anyone know of a Good one?

So Much Screenware would fit the bill.  It is by the makers of the So
Much Shareware series and So Much Stareware.  If you would like a
catalog, give us a call or post your address for me.  Thanks.

Computer Works                                          Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3699
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/20/93  8:00p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have one copy of Busty Babes Version 1.0.  Anyone interested in
bidding on it, please call or write.  Serious offers starting at $250
only please.  Thank you!

Computer Works
Rt 3 Box 794-B                                          Jim...
Ashford, AL 36312
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: TOM SUTER                              Number: 3700
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/21/93  6:15p
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris,

     I received my order today (21 August) in good shape.  I thought
I would let you know that Uncle Sam's service was not as good as the
cost they charged you and, if there is a guarantee, you should ask
for a refund.  I noticed you shipped by Two Day Priority Mail, but
the postmark was 4 days ago.  This is in no way a complaint from me
to you since, as I told you, I was not in any real rush to receive the
disks, but I feel that the Postal Service should perform in accordance
with their claims.

     BTW, thanks for the flyers you enclosed.  Do you also happen to
have a catalog later than the one you enclosed with my drive last
winter?

     Auf wiedersehen,
     = Tom =

 * QMPro 1.01 41-0124 * Man's incomplete til he marries,then he's finished

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 3701
  To: RALPH MOWERY                             Date: 08/21/93 11:43a
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Excuse me for butting in, but I have some comments on your settings. Maybe I'm
so confused I just don't understand, but I think a bit differently from you in
choosing the settings.

RM>I am posting the AUTOEXEC.BAT file

RM>C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 FILES 40
                            ^
Wise choice!  It shows you have read the manual, unusual for MOST users.  Most
folks think that FILES belongs in Config.sys with QEMM, and they are just
wrong!  BTW, you have FILES in Config.sys ALSO! I didn't know the command would
work without an "=" sign.

RM>SET TEMP=c:\DOS

Not really a wise choice.  The function of SET TEMP is to designate a place
that applications can use for a temporary scratchpad.  Most folks have a
separate directory; many use C:\TEMP or similar.  You are at risk of having
something valuable in C:\DOS scribbled over or corrupted.

RM>and CONFIG.SYS file

RM>DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS R:2 exclude=A000-C7FF RAM DBF=2 xst=c000 ST:M
                                          ^^^^^^^^^ Thjis is a LOT of space to
exclude.  Most folks get by with excluding only the video portion B000-B0FF,
while others need as much as B000-BFFF.  You ought to consider a Manifest
analysis of your real needs; I'll bet you'd get back a LOT of memory.

RM>Files = 10
RM>buffers=10

How do you manage to get by with only 10 buffers here?  I needed 40 for many
things, and Alpha 4 demanded 50!  Notice the 10 files, see above.

RM>DOS=HIGH,umb
           ^^^^
I'm surprised it works.  This is ignored by QEMM, and has been for several
versions.  See the manual.  That ",UMB" is a crutch needed by the
lesser-equipped memory managers.

RM>LASTDRIVE=H

Another wise choice; too many folks waste space by using "Z".

RM>  The exclude A000-C7FF and  xst=C000
RM>are for the Speedstar 24x vidio board in my system..

Oh.  Well, that's a heck of a lot of memory, a lot more than most boards.

RM>All seems to work well with this setup and no crashes or lock-ups..

You must not be experimenting with it enough then.  Most of us live a little
closer to the edge.  :-)

RM>Good luck..

And to you as well.

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * "Sometimes party loyalty asks too much."  J.F.K.


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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 3702
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/21/93 11:52a
Subj: X movie review cd                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>Does ANYONE recall reading my review of Busty Babes Release 3.0?? If
BJ>not, I'll recreate it and re-post.

It came through here twice.  Once several days ago, and again just this week.
I have the disk and concur with your assessment of it.  But what does any of
this have to do with the subject line?

73,

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Remembering all my buddies on The Wall.


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From: LARISSA KOHLER                         Number: 3703
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/21/93  9:59a
Subj: 6 CDROM changer                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I run a BBS with 3 online cdroms, but I only have 1 cdrom drive.  I was
wondering if anyone knew of a 6 cdrom drive changer that ran by software.  I've
seen 'em where you have to flip 'em manually, but I'd like to find one my users
can flip.  Thanks!
     Larissa

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From: BRIAN MILLER                           Number: 3704
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/20/93 10:18p
Subj: Walnut Creek Releases                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> We have it in stock for $19.95. 615-339-0235 to order.

Thank you,  I will be giving you a call sometime in the next few days.


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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 3705
  To: MIKE ROBINSON                            Date: 08/10/93 12:30p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MR> AND WILL YOU PLEASE SEND ME A MESSAGE ON THIS BOARD TO SAY YOU GOT THIS
MR>MESSAGE AND YOU WIL SENT THE INFO. OUT TO ME

Message recieved.   I will whip together some information to send your way this
afternoon.   I've been busy enough that I just have not been able to get
anything to the printers to send out.

Loyd
===
 * OLX 2.1 * Copywight 1992, Elmer Fudd.  All wights wesewved


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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 3706
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/10/93  8:31p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                  ****  Digital Enterprises  ****
                       Custom CDROM Service

  Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
  produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
  overnight!

   o Complete confidentiality assured.  Your data will NOT be pilfered.
   o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media.
   o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
   o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
   o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
   o Great for:  BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
                 Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
   o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
   o Free shipping via Two day U.S. Priority Mail.  Overnight Delivery extra

Pricing for Custom CD production:

o 527 Meg:  o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 139MB
            o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
            o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o 650 Meg:  o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 144MB
            o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
            o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.

o UPS RED Label shipping is $15 extra.


   Data formats Supported:               Software Supported:
 ---------------------------           ----------------------- o 60/125/250MB
DC600/6XXX          o Sytos Plus o Mountain Filesafe
  Streaming Tape.                  o Everex Tape o PCTools

o QIC 40/80  (Colorado Jumbo 250)  o PCTools o Colorado Software

o Floppy (At additional cost)      o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools

o Hard Disk

Terms:

  Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
  checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are
  not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.

*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
  Orders placed ON or before August 31, 1993 qualify
  for a 10% discount from our current pricing. *** ** *** ** *** **    Special
  ** *** ** *** ** ***

Notice:

Digital will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite", or pirated software
collections on CDROM.  Such activity is morally WRONG and illegal.  If this is
your intention, please do not waste my time or yours.

For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.

Digital Enterprises
Voice: 517-865-6800  -  BBS: 517-865-6066  -  Fidonet: 1:239/900.0

===
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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 3707
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/21/93  4:25p
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                  ****  Digital Enterprises  ****
                       Custom CDROM Service

  Our CDROM Recorder is fired up, and ready to serve you!   We can
  produce a Custom CDROM From your Tape backup, or your Hard Drive
  overnight!

   o Complete confidentiality assured.  Your data will NOT be pilfered.
   o Free up Megabytes of expensive magnetic media.
   o BOTH 527 Meg and 650 Meg (60 and 74 minute) media available.
   o Use as a master to transfer data to a pressing facility.
   o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
   o Great for:  BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
                 Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
   o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
   o Free shipping via Two day U.S. Priority Mail.  Overnight Delivery extra

Pricing for Custom CD production:

o 527 Meg:  o $1 per megabyte UP TO $139.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 139MB
            o Minimum charge $85 for less than 85MB.
            o $50 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o 650 Meg:  o $1 per Megabyte UP TO $144.  NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE PAST 144MB
            o Minimum charge $90 for less than 90MB.
            o $55 for each duplicate after paying full price for the first.

o CD Consolidation is a flat $50/$55 fee.

o UPS RED Label shipping is $15 extra.


   Data formats Supported:               Software Supported:
 ---------------------------           ----------------------- o 60/125/250MB
DC600/6XXX          o Sytos Plus o Mountain Filesafe
  Streaming Tape.                  o Everex Tape o PCTools

o QIC 40/80  (Colorado Jumbo 250)  o PCTools o Colorado Software

o Floppy (At additional cost)      o Fastback 3.0 o PCTools

o Hard Disk

Terms:

  Prepay for service via Certified check or money order.  Personal
  checks must clear bank before production begins.  SORRY, we are
  not able to accept your Visa/Mastercard at this time.

*** ** *** ** *** **    Special    ** *** ** *** ** ***
  Orders placed ON or before August 31, 1993 qualify
  for a 10% discount from our current pricing. *** ** *** ** *** **    Special
  ** *** ** *** ** ***

Notice:

Digital will NOT be a party to the creation of "elite", or pirated software
collections on CDROM.  Such activity is morally WRONG and illegal.  If this is
your intention, please do not waste my time or yours.

For further information, please File REQuest CDINFO from Fidonet Node
1:239/900.0 at V.32bis speeds, or call our voice number.

Digital Enterprises
Voice: 517-865-6800  -  BBS: 517-865-6066  -  Fidonet: 1:239/900.0

===
 * OLX 2.1 * Dirty Deeds done dirt cheap!


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3708
  To: ED KELLERMANN                            Date: 08/22/93  1:40a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Boris,
>>      Pardon my seeming stupidity, but what is the difference
>>      between a Pioneer DMR600 and a DMR604X changer ?  Do you
>>     also sell them bundled with the appropriate drivers, and a
>>     SCSI card, cables, etc set up for external ?

>>                            thanks

Ed, the DMR600 is a 600ms drive with a 150kps transfer rate. While the
DMR604X is a 300ms drive with a 600kps transfer rate. Other than that
both units offer the same features.

Interested in any additional information, please call us at 216-225-3263
and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3709
  To: ROEL SARCENO                             Date: 08/22/93  1:40a
Subj: Re: Encyclopedia                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Boris Osadciw

>>    Do you have any Encyclopedia, Road maps and games on CD ROM
>>    that can be use as a on-line door.  I'm not looking for files
>>    they can download by something they can actually run online
>>    with the bbs.  I would also like to know if it's legal or if
>>    it's for personal use.

Nothing that we're aware of! At least nothing that is currently being
released will allow this type of option.

There are some old Encyclopedia's that may allow this, but nothing
else that we can think of.

Sorry we couldn't be of more help.....

Boris Osadciw

... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3710
  To: DYLAN GORDON                             Date: 08/22/93  1:40a
Subj: Re: CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>            I'm looking for a G-RATED CD of GIf's....  I think
>>            Gif's Galore would be good, but does anyone know of a
>>     Good one?

There's a number of them out there ! Give us a call at 216-225-3263
and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3711
  To: JIM LAWHON                               Date: 08/22/93  1:40a
Subj: Re: Texel/Toshiba Questions             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    - Will the Texel DM3024 run off an Adaptec 1542b SCSI

>>    - Is anyone here selling the Toshiba 3401b for less than
>>    $399(US)+s&h? - Is the 3401 multi-session and XA capable under

>>    - Is there any reason why one of the above shouldn't be used
>>    on a BBS? - How much are extra caddies for the above system?

>>    I have the $$$ and will be purchasing one or the other within
>>    the next couple of weeks.  If you are a dealer competitive
>>    with the above pricing and prefer to deal privately or by
>>    voice, you may contact me via netmail at the address below.

>>                                          regards,

Jim, as we market both of the above drives, your welcome to call us
at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to answer all of the above
questions for you.

Boris Osadciw

... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3712
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  1:40a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3713
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  1:40a
Subj: Mix or Match                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********************  $10.00 MIX/MATCH  Specials  *********************

American Premier          Canadian Shareware      Between Heaven & Hell 2
Sophistcated Sante Fe     IBM Sampler             TaxPrep '93'
Sherlock Holmes (TxT)     Game Arena              Shareware Overload
PC Game Room              PC-SIG 8                PC-SIG Games
LaserTax On CD            Phoenix # 3             Jokes&Pranks
Learning Adventure        Business Assistant      World Travler
Sound Sensation           DeathStar Arcade        Colossal CookBook
ClipArt Goliath           Technotools             Our Solar System
Bible & Religion          Windoware               Dictionaries & Languages
Original Shareware        Selectware

************************************************************************

                 Limited Supplies - Everything MUST GO !!
                 Mix Or Match  - While Supplies Last !!!
                      Call 216-225-3263 anytime

*********************  $15.00 MIX/MATCH Specials  *********************

Magnum                    Mega Rom 2              Lions Share
So-Much-Shareware         Magnum Games/Windows    Shareware Studio #2
Shareware Tiger           Jem Disc w/floppy       PC-SIG Home/Business
QRZ Ham Radio

***********************************************************************

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress....... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3714
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  1:40a
Subj: RED HOT SPECIAL                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

... Xpress Yourself!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3715
  To: STEVE GERWECK                            Date: 08/22/93  1:40a
Subj: Re: BB                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=>> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Steve Gerweck <=-

 BO>> Well Steve, BB v1 vol1.0 is no longer available from us as we have
 BO>> sold it to a buyer for $425.00. As for BB v1 vol2 it's priced at $45.
 BO>> and BB v1 ver3.0 is $25.

>>    HI Boris.. is that $25 shipped for V3?  If so, post your
>>    company's address and I'll send you a check.  Or do you have
>>    an 800 number to charge it?


No Steve, you need to add $5. to cover the cost of shipping and insurance.

Your welcome to call us at 800-243-0517 and place your order anytime.

Hope this helps...

Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: DREW WILSON                            Number: 3716
  To: ZACHARY HAMM                             Date: 08/21/93  1:41p
Subj: Dak CD-ROMS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hey Zach,
   Did you order one of Dak's CD-ROMS that they advertised in the summer '93
catalog?  If so, how is it?  I was thinking about snagging one but I thought
I'd check out the ol' cd-rom echo first to see if anyone had a better deal.
Please tell me how the cd-rom worked out and what your running it with.

           later.......Drew Wilson
PS...the tech support # is 1-800-888-9818    thanx

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From: TONY MILES                             Number: 3717
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 11:55p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

********************** FOR TRADE **********************

                  SMUTWARE CD-ROM disc

640 megs of adult files
1001 1024x768x256 adult gifs
2010 800x600x256 adult gifs
101 GL, DL movies
No descriptions
Not wife-proof
Published in February 93


Looking to trade it for:
Six used 120meg QIC80 tape cartridges

If interested, leave reply in this conference.

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From: MIKE RICHARDSON                        Number: 3718
  To: MANESH RAMA                              Date: 08/21/93 12:22p
Subj: Cd-software                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Manesh Uttered To All In The (13) CDROM_SALE - Conference About Cd-software

 *********************************
 *HI, I WUZ JUST WONDERING IF ANYONE OUT THERE HAS ANY CD-SOFTWARE
 *FOR SALE. PREFFERABLY UNDER $50.
 *OH YEAH I ALSO HAVE A CD OF MY OWN FOR SALE
 *ITS THE NIGHT OWL'S CD ver. 6
 *ANY OFFERS?
 *********************************

    I will trade Phoenix-CD Version 2.0 (unopened) for Night Owl Version
    6.....

     .***.**.*
    **.\\ike **
     ***.*.***

***
 * 4U2NV * Serious offers only........

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 3719
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/21/93  1:14a
Subj: Busty babes trade sought.               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

@SUBJECT:Busty Babes Trade sought....                                N
   I am looking for a copy of either BUSTY BABES ver. 1.0 , Vol 3
or either Southern Beauties.   I have several CD's that I could
offer as trade for this disk....

     Day of the Tenticle by LucasArts
       ( FULL speach throughout the game, no reading at all ! )
       Comes complete with Box & Doc's. Plus HINTBOOK.

     Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
       ( Again this is the FULL talking version! )

     20th Century Video Almanac
       ( Excellent Disk! )

     The San Diego Zoo Presents... The Animals!
       ( True Multimedia!  MUST have Windows 3.x and a
         video card capible of running Windows in 256
         color mode to operate this incredible Disk )

     Night Owl 6.1  and 7.0  Shareware Disks


If you have ANY of the disks that I mentioned, see which disk(s)
that I have that would complete the trade and get back with me ASAP.
Either reply here or on my BBS [phone] or NetMail 1:3616/40

                        Todd

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 3720
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/21/93  1:24a
Subj: Hitachi drive for sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

@SUBJECT:HITACHI drive for sale    C H E A P                         N

     I have a Hitachi CD-ROM drive that I no longer need and would
  like to sell.  Model number CDR-2500,  the drive is full height
  and is about 700ms, so if you are hunting MPC compatible, this ain't
  for you, but if you operate a BBS it's PERFECT !
   I will include Night-Owl 7.0  FREE of charge to the first person
  that snaps up this deal...
  Price is 120.00 and includes DRIVE, CONTROLLER and CABLE.
  Shipping is ALSO included...

     -OR-

    Will trade this drive for a NICE video Card (1MB), something
   in the neighborhood of a Diamond or Orchid.
   IF it's a REALLY nice VGA card, I will include a
   CYRUSS SVGA Windows Accelerator Card (1MB), really a FAST
   card!, but due to compatibility problems with a specific
   program, I need to find a different one...

   If interested, reply here or call my BBS at [phone]
   or NetMail 1:3616/40 for faster results...

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From: SANDELEH FRANCIS @ 910/529             Number: 3721
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/22/93 12:03a
Subj: Re: toshiba cdrom                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hiya, Todd!
On Aug 18, Todd Crawford spake thusly to Sandeleh Francis:

->> i bought 2 CDs from michael konor, and the first drive does
->> that (the led blinks all the time) but the 2nd one doesnt!
->> go figure...

 TC> I have heard that when the LED is blinking, that either the
 TC> Drive is dirty or the Laser unit need aligning.... anyone
 TC> else heard of this?

gee, i wouldnt think so.. both these drives were just refurbished.  surely they
would have cleaned and aligned the laser...


\/\/ild_________
         |hing
TeamOS/2

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 3722
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 08/21/93  5:18p
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <08-19-93 13:04> Joe Slifer wrote:

JS>> Would you list the cdroms FLD produces and any planned future
JS>> releases.-Thank

Thanks Joe for asking--We have a busy Fall coming with some blockbusting
discs--The schedule for the next 60 days is:

a) Busty Babes Vol II Rel 1.0 (September Release)--Licensed collection
   of original slides with "Gorgeous Women"....1000 images. X and XXX
   images. Nothing amateur about this disc ! All professional photography.


b) Texas Glamour- All original scans as well....(Oct release) "X" rated.
   NO men--

c) "Passion"--All original scans, XXX disc, (Nov release)--etc....

All of our products will feature the "ShowOff" interface, with some
new enhancements if they are ready in time for Busty II.

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: BRIAN DHATT                            Number: 3723
  To: JIM ORCHARD                              Date: 08/20/93 11:47a
Subj: multi-speed cd-rom                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Wednesday August 18 1993 18:57, Jim Orchard wrote to All:

 JO> I am looking for a good (new condition) multi-spin cd-rom drive I would
 JO> prefer it if it came with a controller also. I have heard that the NEC
 JO> drives are the best, unfortunatly also the most expensive. Anyone care
 JO> to enlighten me?

Call MPS Multimedia at 800-533-4MPS.  They seem to have some good deals on
Panasonic 300kb/s drives, $269 internal + $20 controller.  They have an ad in
Computer Shopper that you might want to look at.

Brian

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From: BRIAN DHATT                            Number: 3724
  To: MARK GRYN                                Date: 08/21/93  4:39p
Subj: OS/2 2.0 - Mitsumi CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thursday August 19 1993 11:33, Mark Gryn wrote to all:

 MG>     Can someone help me?  Or...anyone got an OS/2 driver for Mitsumi
 MG> drives?

Here is the ordering info for the good driver (German, more features than
Florida version):

                   Terminate image saved 19-Aug-1993 11:51p

CompuServe Mail

Date:  19-Aug-93 14:05 EDT
From:  Torsten Droste[totronik] [100064,1346]
Reply to: Mitsumi OS/2 driver

Hi Brian,

USA and Canada residents can order directly from our US distributor


                     MICROWARE TECHNOLOGY DISTRIBUTING, Inc.
                     51 Maplewood Avenue
                     Albany, NY 12205
                     USA
                     Phone: [phone]
                            [phone]
                     Fax:   [phone]


======

I also have a Fido address to get it directly from Germany if needed.

Brian

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 3725
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/22/93  1:01p
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PR> I really need TWO if there is any left, or one if
 PR> thats all is left. Can you please send them COD if
 PR> possible.

They are gone but if I can get more I'll give you a call. Thanks

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 3726
  To: JERRY SMITH                              Date: 08/23/93  6:40a
Subj: Nodelist/copyright                      Refer: 7134
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Hi Tim--Get ahold of the U.S. Supreme Court Report for Feist
-> Publicactions, Inc. v Rural Telephone Service Company, Inc.
-> (113 L Ed 2d 358), decided March 27, 1991.  It provides a clear,

Thanks Jerry... I'll take a look at it.

tim
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3727
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93 12:24a
Subj: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *************************************************************************
                          7TH GUEST SPECIAL OFFER!
 *************************************************************************

       PRICE:  $39!!        In stock, ready for immediate delivery.

 MINIMUM Requirements:  2 Megs RAM * 386DX CPU * 16 bit SVGA video card
 with at least 512K RAM * CD-ROM Drive w/ 150K per second minimum transfer
 rate * Sound card w/ FM and PCM sound * Mouse * Hard drive w/ 10 Megs free
 MSCDEX 2.2 or higher * DOS 5.0

 RECOMMENDED Hardware:  486sx 20mhz or faster CPU * 4 Megs RAM * Fast
 16 bit SVGA video card w/ 1 Meg RAM or local bus video * CD-ROM drive w/
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 LAPC-1, MT-32, or Sound Canvas and 16 bit PCM Sound Card

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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        is the future."       - Bill Gates, Chairman Microsoft Corp.
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3728
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/22/93 12:24a
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES                Refer: NONE
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BR>SH>   > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
BR>SH>   > From Original 35mm Slides
BR>SH>
BR>SH>          Blaine, pardon me for asking, but why would anyone pay for a
BR>SH>  disk filled with gifs of senior citizens ? :-)
                                                   ^^^
BR>Mr. Hecker, I don't know what YOU are looking for (teenage girls?),
BR>but senior citizens, THE MODELS ARE NOT!  The models that appear in
BR>"SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" are not only extremely attractive but appear
BR>regularly in current issues of men's magazines and adult movies.

He was joking.  See the little smiley face?

BR>A GOOD TIME!  We have had complaints about the disc not being for
BR>use on BBSs, but none about the ages of the models or the fact that

For the third time:  Why does it have FILES.BBS if you don't want it
used on BBS's???

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3729
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93 12:24a
Subj: CD-ROM MASTER LIST 1/2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 **************************************************************************
 August 1993             DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 8/22
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                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00
 5-Star Premium Windows........27.00    Microsoft Musical Instruments.57.00
 7th Guest.....................45.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    MIDI Music Shop...............27.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 American Business Phonebk 92..19.00    Monarch Notes.................59.00
 American Business Phonebk 93..39.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 Amiga AB20....................15.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...38.50
 Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......23.00    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....25.50    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....24.00
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    National Business Directory...29.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Barney Bear Goes to Space.....20.00    National Parks................29.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 4.1.................20.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 8.0.................25.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....29.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    Night Owl 8/9 2-Pak...........53.00
 Business Master...............20.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    North American Fax Book.......39.00
 California Collection.........17.00    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Canadian Shareware (New!).....22.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...19.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-SIG #12....................26.00
 CD Winbox (New!)..............25.00    PC-SIG #13 (Pre-orders).......39.00
 CD Grab Bag Disc..............19.00    PC Gameroom...................27.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pentomino.....................32.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phethean's Shareware #1.......15.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phoenix 3.0 ($6 w/ any order).13.00
 Clipart Galore................28.00    Pier 1........................25.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 2........................33.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........25.00    Pier 3 (Pre-orders)...........39.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....19.00
 Composer Quest................34.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......88.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency....97.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........115.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....66.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....66.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........29.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........33.00    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........27.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Crossword Cracker.............24.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00    Q&A 4.0.......................39.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Reader's Library..............28.50
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Reel Clips (New!).............44.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50    Return to the Moon (New!).....36.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...42.00
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 DTPro.........................28.50    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Eagle Eye Shareware (New!)....25.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00    Shareware Online 1............25.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3730
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93 12:24a
Subj: CD-ROM MASTER LIST 2/2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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                                   2 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Online 2 (New!).....39.00
 Empire Clipart................29.00    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Shareware Studio 1............20.00
 Encyclopedia of Sound.........15.00    Shareware Studio 2............25.00
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......29.00    Sights & Sounds...............25.00
 Find-It Webster...............49.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Font Master 2.................28.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Shareware 2...........27.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    Software Vault 1..............22.00
 Game Master...................20.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....24.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..19.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Gameware Collection...........24.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Soundware Collection (New!)...27.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    SoundWAV......................25.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space Quest IV................24.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Grolier's Ill. Ency. 2.0......35.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Grolier's MM Ency. 5.0........45.00    Street Atlas USA..............86.00
 Grolier's MPC Ency. 1.5.......47.50    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    Super CD 2....................27.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....16.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Super Games For Windows.......16.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........28.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Technotools...................13.00
 House of Games................22.50    Tempra Access Photo Software..25.00
 Illustrated Holy Bible........47.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....45.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Total Baseball................27.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Trump Castle..................28.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    U.S. & World Atlas............25.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 King's Quest V................24.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 King's Quest VI (New!)........47.00    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........23.50    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    Up All Night Shareware (New!).17.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    VGA Spectrum 1................14.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 Lion's Share..................22.00    Visions of Saturn.............23.00
 Loom..........................19.00    Vital Signs...................45.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...39.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Mac Shareware (New!)..........24.00    Win/OS2.......................17.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........35.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Magnum One Shareware..........27.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........27.00    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Majestic Places...............38.50    World Atlas MPC...............26.50
 Manhole.......................35.50    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World Traveler (New!).........15.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............28.00    World View....................24.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00    World Vision 3-Pak............45.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......56.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3731
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93 12:24a
Subj: ADULT CD MASTER LIST                    Refer: NONE
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    PC-PIX 1......................30.00
 After Dark Trilogy (New!).....45.00    PC-PIX 2......................30.00
 All Beauties (New!)...........33.00    PC-PIX 3......................30.00
 Amateur Models (New!).........35.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 Animation Fantasies 1 or 2....29.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Porkware 2....................37.00
 Busty Babes 3.0...............33.00    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........28.00    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Erotic Encounters 1...........36.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Erotic Encounters 2 (New!)....36.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    SeXXcapades The Movie.........49.00
 Girls of Vivid 1 (New!).......45.00    Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00
 Girls of Vivid 2 (New!).......45.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................29.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................29.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......30.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................29.00    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............29.00    Storm 2.......................28.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00    Storm 3.......................28.00
 Luscious Ladies (New!)........35.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Total Fantasie (New!).........33.50
 My First Time (Adult Film)....39.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 Mystique of the Orient (Film).59.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 Nightwatch Interactive........49.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

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From: RICK FISHER                            Number: 3732
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/22/93 10:26p
Subj: Re: Hitachi drive for sale              Refer: NONE
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I have a Trident VGA/SVGA 1mg on board
it has software drivers disk and works
well it's also 16bit board. Trade for
your cd drive. does it come with controller
and drivers? let me know here, rick


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From: STEVE HECKER                           Number: 3733
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/22/93  8:35p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
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 > In a message to Blaine Richard <08-18-93
 > 00:02> Steve Hecker wrote:
 >
 > SH>   > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 > SH>   > From Original 35mm Slides
 > SH>
 > SH>          Blaine, pardon me for asking, but
 > SH> why would anyone pay for a
 > SH>  disk filled with gifs of senior citizens ? :-)
 >
 > Mr. Hecker, I don't know what YOU are looking
 > for (teenage girls?),
 > but senior citizens, THE MODELS ARE NOT!  The

        A sense a humor you have ... NOT.



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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 3734
  To: ALL BULLETIN BOARD SYSTEMS               Date: 08/22/93 12:47p
Subj: NEW CD - SOUTHERN BEAUTIES              Refer: NONE
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********* MAKE ADDITIONAL INCOME FROM YOUR SUBSCRIBERS *********

************* FROM THE SALE OF "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" *************
------------------- NOT FOR USE ON YOUR BBS --------------------

GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC. HAS A PACKAGE AVAILABLE THAT
INCLUDES:

                A custom ANSI and ASCII screen for your BBS -
                to announce the disc, it's price, and the
                availability of the demo for downloading
                from your BBS or by mail order, which
                includes sample GIFs from "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES"
                in a file named:

                SB_DEMO.EXE


Please send your BBS name, mailing address, BBS number and voice
number, and A STATEMENT THAT YOU ARE OVER 21 YEARS OLD - along
with $5.00 to cover the cost of postage & handling, the disk,
and a padded mailer to:

                        GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC.
                        P. O. Box 941151
                        Maitland, FL 32794-1151

Please call 407-831-3011 if you have any questions or need any
additional information.

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From: ALBERT AFONSO                          Number: 3735
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/21/93 12:18p
Subj: MM Encyclopedia                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

Looking for a GOOD Encyclopedia with multimedia capabilities. If anyone has
suggestions or anything for sale, please let me know. I've heard that Comptons
MM Encyclopedia is pretty good.

Take care,

Albert Afonso

Fax      : [phone]
Internet : [e-mail]
Fidonet  : 1:369/83

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From: ALBERT AFONSO                          Number: 3736
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 08/22/93 10:59a
Subj: Multimedia Items For Sale               Refer: NONE
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Hello Greg!

17 Aug 93 19:00, Greg Manter wrote to All:

 GM> The Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia 1992 Guinness Disk
 GM> of Records: Multimedia Version

How much would you be interested for either of these of both?

Take care,

Albert Afonso

Fax      : [phone]
Internet : [e-mail]
Fidonet  : 1:369/83

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 3737
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 08/21/93  2:07p
Subj: CD+G                                    Refer: NONE
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Hello Vito! (Hope I spelled your name right<grin>)
 I received the M.O. and mailed your CD+G's out the same day.I sent them 4th
class,as you did not send enough P&H for 1st(Priority was $3.90)but it should
get there fairly soon.

Enjoy!!

                           Diana

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From: BRIAN CLEMONS                          Number: 3738
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  1:34p
Subj: SALE!                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Many CD titles for sale!  If interested and are in the Sac, CA. or in the
states.  Call 916-689-3382 and ask for Brian!
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 3739
  To: JIM NEUMILLER                            Date: 08/21/93 11:53a
Subj: Re: DAK CD-ROM SUPPORT                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 -=> Quoting Zachary Hamm to All <=-

 JN> Do you suppose you could post me the phone number for DAK?  I haven't
 JN> ordered in awhile....so dropped off the mailing list....

Must have been QUITE A WHILE since I haven't ordered in over two years and
still get their catalog - numbers:

1-800 nrs:

Tech Info - 888-9818
Any Other - 888-7808
TDD       - 888-6703
Credit card orders: -325-0800

not toll free:

Fax [phone]
DAK BBS 1-818-715-7153

times 8 to 5, M to Fri.

HOpe this helps.
... Abandon hope, all ye who <ENTER> here.
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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 3740
  To: RITA LAWS                                Date: 08/22/93  3:51p
Subj: GRANDMA AND ME                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Hi. If your other buyer drops out in a few weeks, please
 > leave me a note. I am interested in CD programs for
 > children, new and used. Have a nice day.

Have Interactive Storytime Volumes one and two for $20 each.

Vikki

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From: RITA LAWS                              Number: 3741
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 08/21/93 11:15p
Subj: OIE                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Tony, Sorry to hear about all of the uncertainty. Are you refunding members'
memberships since you do not know if you will be back on-line? Rita

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From: TONY DAVIS                             Number: 3742
  To: RITA LAWS                                Date: 08/22/93  1:43p
Subj: OIE                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >Tony, Sorry to hear about all of the uncertainty. Are you refunding
 >members' memberships since you do not know if you will be back on-line?
 >Rita

Rita, the OIE BBS is a wholly owned subsidiary of Mid America Digital
Publishing.  All assets of Mid America Digital were seized. If legal
procedures are not successful in the return of all MAD's assets (including the
OIE BBS), there is nothing to return.

Also, all membership records are on the network equipment that was seized.
Without it, I do not even have a list of members, addresses, expiration dates,
etc.

Tony

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From: GERALD RYCKMAN                         Number: 3743
  To: DYLAN GORDON                             Date: 08/20/93 11:30p
Subj: CD                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DG>>        I'm looking for a G-RATED CD of GIf's....  I think Gif's Galore
would
  >>be good, but does anyone know of a Good one?

Hi there...if you happen to know any other titles that are either G-
rated or at the most R-Rated, please let me know. I didn't know GIF's
Galore is a G-Rated CD. Hmmm...maybe I should check it out. The only
one I know is Night Owl's Graphic CD Volume 1. I think they're selling
it for $39 US. From the looks of the file descriptions, it seems like
a pretty average, so-so G/PG-rated CD. For that price, I guess it's
also worth trying.

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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 3744
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/21/93  2:05p
Subj: NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS CD VER               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*@SUBJECT:NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS CD VERSION 1 !!!!                        N
                TCM Computing and Night Owl Publisher Inc,

                            Proudly Announce:

                        NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS v1 !!!

The same team that brought you Night Owl 9 has now joined forces to bring
you the very BEST in Graphics!!  This new CD contains over 640 Meg. of
high-resolution GIFs and JPGs, as well as TIF, TGA, PCX, Animations,
Clipart, Fractals, Windows wallpaper and icons, plus graphics programs and
utilities:  over 4,200 of the best graphics files from '92 & '93.

                  Availability: Early Sept.
                  Special Introductory Price:  $39 !!
                  Rated: PG

We are still working on the final touches, but if you would like to see
a *preliminary* set of DIRs, call TCM BBS (we are the Official Night Owl
Support Board) and download NIGHT_G1.ZIP.

TCM is now accepting advance orders for this outstanding new disk.  Those
of you on our mailing list will shortly receive an announcement with some
additional *special offers*.  Night Owl Graphics v1 may be ordered from
TCM in several ways:

  - send check/money order with $39+$3s/h to the address below,
  - call us voice (leave a message if we aren't available)
  - Send us a Fax for Credit Card and COD Orders
  - Call the BBS and leave a message to the Sysop for COD Orders
  - Call the BBS and use the ORDER Door for Credit Card Orders

        TCM will have the new disk before ANYONE else!

 [ TCM is an Official Night Owl Distributor - Dealers call for Pricing ]

TCM Computing                                        [phone]
Rt. 2 Box 130                                        [phone] Fax
Midland, Va. 22728                                   [phone] BBS
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From: DON BRADEN                             Number: 3745
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/22/93  5:31p
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike, the disks arrived after our customs folks had decided on the tariff.
 I am having problems with My first time. My set up seems to comply with
the suggested one in the insert in the disk "jewel box" ie it has 2048 ram
and expanded memory etc. However, after the disk " asks" which resolution I
want and I reply. I get the annoucement " intermission" and the advice to
change to disk 2. I get exactly the same situation with disk 2. Any
suggestions as to how to get the movie going? Or maybe other readers of the
echo could advise. The other disks in the order work perfectly.
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From: ANISH ACHARYA                          Number: 3746
  To: DOUG SNELL                               Date: 08/22/93  9:24p
Subj: Remote Access 2.00                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Doug:

I have it and I have it set up.  That message was before it was out!!

Regards,

Anish Acharya

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From: YVES DESJARDINS                        Number: 3747
  To: MIKE MCCUE                               Date: 08/22/93  8:25a
Subj: CD for trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mike!

15 Aug 93 21:03, Mike McCue wrote to Yves Desjardins:

 MM>  I am interested in the Microprose Mantis and Civilization game..   All I
 MM> really have to offer is the Software Toolworks Multimedia Encyclopedia
 MM> version 1.  I dont have any manuals.. but c'mon, how hard is it to
 MM> navigate an encyclopedia?  I can be reached at 1:395/18.79 or 43.79..

Sorry, but I already have this CD.

Yves

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From: CHAD STUDY                             Number: 3748
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 12:00a
Subj: Busty 1.0                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm trying to figure out if I have Busty 1.0 or not...

Someone said that if it lacked the text dir it is.
Mine has no directory that is labeled as "text".
Files.BBS in the different sections... yes it has that.

But the CD has to imprint of Graphic Software, the case it came in
has Sextasy Software on it.....

Anyone know?

------------

Also when is that darn Amiga CD coming out?

Chad

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From: DAVID VANGELDER                        Number: 3749
  To: ALL BULLETIN BOARD SYSTEMS               Date: 08/22/93  3:32p
Subj: New CD - Southern Beauties              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

************** GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC. ***************
============================ Presents ==========================

*********************** Southern Beauties **********************
--------- A FULLY COMMERCIAL -- FULLY COPYRIGHTED DISC ---------

675 Megs-Over 65 TOP MODELS-1000 GIFs-1024x768x256 From Original
35mm Slides-Includes 300 Megs of the Best Images in 24 bit True
Color. Installs Quickly & Easily - Menu Driven - User Friendly -
Popup Help - Mouse Support - Keyword Search - Sound Blaster
Front Loader - Multiple Directory Slide Show Capability

******************* NOT FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! *****************

Since "Southern Beauties" may not be used on your BBS, YOU MAY
WANT TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE ON A MAIL ORDER BASIS.

********* MAKE ADDITIONAL INCOME FROM YOUR SUBSCRIBERS *********


GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC. HAS A PACKAGE AVAILABLE THAT
INCLUDES:

                A custom ANSI and ASCII screen for your BBS -
                to announce the disc, it's price, and the
                availability of the demo for downloading
                from your BBS or by mail order, which
                includes sample GIFs from "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES"
                in a file named:

                SB_DEMO.EXE


Please send your BBS name, mailing address, BBS number and voice
number, and A STATEMENT THAT YOU ARE OVER 21 YEARS OLD - along
with $5.00 to cover the cost of postage & handling, the disk,
and a padded mailer to:

                        GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC.
                        P. O. Box 941151
                        Maitland, FL 32794-1151

Please call 407-831-3011 if you have any questions or need any
additional information.

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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 3750
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 08/22/93  1:25p
Subj: AI CDRom                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    I am looking for any and all CDroms dealing with AI and Neural Nets,
if anyone has any for sale, or knows of any, I'd like to here about them!

Eric


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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 3751
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/23/93 12:25a
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TB> > Special.... for 1 week I'm offering used Hitachi 3500
  > > internal cd rom drives for $99.   I have about 20
  > > left.  30 day warranty included.   205-824-2552

Terry, did you get my messages of 2 weeks ago?  1) i was trying to find
out if you ever got any of the Hitachi 3600's in and secondly to see how
many of the 3500's you had left.


James
 ■ OLX 3.10 31-0461 ■ I laughed till I cried....Joel Siegal.


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From: ROBERT FOSTER                          Number: 3752
  To: DCQWK                                    Date: 08/22/93  8:14p
Subj: DROP                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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From: REBEL                                  Number: 3753
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/22/93 12:26p
Subj: Disk                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

@ORIGIN :Southern Pride BBS 1:151/151                                N
-> >for two directories of text files called "STORY1" and "STORY2".  If
-> >they're *MISSING*, you've got a Rel. #1 !!
-> Super!  They are, and I do! <G>  Thanks, Bob.

I also have a ver 1 BB whats the big deal with it Eddie Goodman


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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 3754
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 08/22/93 10:55p
Subj: Busty Babes v1.0                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EP>  KT> I have Busty Babes First Edition for sale to the highest bidder.  It

EP> $15

    How about $15.25?

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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 3755
  To: TED KIDD                                 Date: 08/22/93 11:06p
Subj: MacIntosh CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On <19 Aug, 23:45>, Ted Kidd wrote to Craig Moser :

TK> CM> Giga-ROM v3 - Macintosh shareware cdrom

TK> 1)  Is it BBS compatible (IBM BBS that it...)?
TK> 2)  How much?
TK> 3)  What is the date of the disc?

If you find out, please let me know as well.  I have many callers who are Mac
based and would like to see some files too.

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From: DYLAN GORDON                           Number: 3756
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  8:41a
Subj: CDROM                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Can any Canadian distributors give me a price quote on the So Much
Screenware Gif CDROM, with shipping and handling?

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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 3757
  To: ANISH ACHARYA                            Date: 08/22/93  6:55a
Subj: Remote Access 2.00                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RE: Remote Access 2.00
BY: Anish Acharya to Harry Wheat on Thu Aug 19 1993 04:52 pm

The real version of RA V2.00 came out on the 18th, freq RA_200.ARJ from
103/955, or d/l on first call to The Interchange BBS 714-498-8123, file is
800+K, system is running v32b/v42b.
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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 3758
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/22/93  7:51a
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BR> To the SYSOPS who do not like the fact that "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" can
 BR> not be put on their BBS, we have recommended that they offer the disc
 BR> for sale on their BBS.  Many of them that followed our advice have
 BR> found that they can make more money from the sales of "SOUTHERN
 BR> BEAUTIES" than they do from subscription fees.
 BR>
I'm sure you'd love that.  Exclude the sysops by telling them they can't use it
on their BBS and then suggest they peddle it for ya!  Only an idiot would run a
BBS to make money as it is nearly impossible.  Most sysops uses that
subscription money to buy CD's for the BBS, etc.  Looks like they won't be
spending any of that sub money on this one.


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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 3759
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  3:05p
Subj: CDROM BBS Door!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'll spare quoting Robert's advertisement.  Just wanted to reply and say it
ain't a bad deal for $20.  It has allready made my life much simplier.  About
the only thing I'd like to see that it doesn't do is allow users to search
offline ROMS and then request them generating a list which would be used to
prompt the sysop for the required disks so they could be copied to the HD.  But
that would be asking alot of any package (especially for only $20).  I don't
have any connection with Mr. Lee other than being a happy customer.


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3760
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93  3:31a
Subj: NEW ADDITIONS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ N E W  A D D I T I O N S ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
LAN MASTER - 100mgs - 2255 files - Utilities, Programs, Text, & More!
             Files.BBS Structure                             - PRICE - $29.
PRECISION  - v1.5 - Most Complete Mapping Program Of It's Kind! With CAD,
MAPPING      Zoom & Mouse Support + FREE Business Phone Book - PRICE - $79.
ROMATERIAL - Designer/Animated icons, Sound F/X in 6 languages, unique
             cursors,blankers, celebrity impressions & More! - PRICE - $25.
KINGS QUEST- ALL NEW adventure game with Super Graphics & Sound.
VI                                                           - PRICE - $49.
ORDER LINE ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759






Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3761
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93  3:31a
Subj: RED HOT SPECIALS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: ROBERT LEE                             Number: 3762
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 12:15p
Subj: BBS Door handles virtually any CDROM    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CDMX2DOR.ZIP provides direct updates to Maximus CBBS users.bbs/lastuser.bbs!
If you are looking for a Maximus CDRom door, then try this one CDMX2DOR.ZIP
(311k, 14.4, 24hrs @ 1:232/31 FReq).

If you previously got CDMAXDOR and were disappointed by its performance, then
this door will make up for it <g>.  Beta tested.  Ask Chris Keufler (who
frequents this echo) how he likes CDMX2DOR.

CDMX2DOR.ZIP (311k 14.4 24hrs @ 1:232/31 FReq)

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From: ROBERT LEE                             Number: 3763
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 12:28p
Subj: Put ANY CDRom Online!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CDMX2DOR.ZIP provides direct updates to Maximus CBBS users.bbs/lastuser.bbs!
If you are looking for a Maximus CDRom door, then try this one CDMX2DOR.ZIP
(311k, 14.4, 24hrs @ 1:232/31 FReq).

If you previously got CDMAXDOR and were disappointed by its performance, then
this door will make up for it <g>.  Beta tested.  Ask Chris Keufler (who
frequents this echo) how he likes CDMX2DOR.

CDMX2DOR.ZIP (311k 14.4 24hrs @ 1:232/31 FReq)

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From: ROBERT LEE                             Number: 3764
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/20/93 12:33p
Subj: Maximus BBS CDRom door                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CDMX2DOR.ZIP provides direct updates to Maximus CBBS users.bbs/lastuser.bbs!
If you are looking for a Maximus CDRom door, then try this one CDMX2DOR.ZIP
(311k, 14.4, 24hrs @ 1:232/31 FReq).

If you previously got CDMAXDOR and were disappointed by its performance, then
this door will make up for it <g>.  Beta tested.  Ask Chris Keufler (who
frequents this echo) how he likes CDMX2DOR.

CDMX2DOR.ZIP (311k 14.4 24hrs @ 1:232/31 FReq)

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From: KEVIN KING                             Number: 3765
  To: ED KELLERMANN                            Date: 08/22/93  5:12p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom List                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

send me a copy of yur Cd-Disk catalog as well.

Kevin King, SysOp
'My Favorite BBS' 916-381-2851
P.O. Box 277482
Sacramento, CA, 95827


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From: JOHN ROBERTSON                         Number: 3766
  To: ED KELLERMANN                            Date: 08/22/93 10:15p
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi, Ed! recently you asked...
 EK> Boris,
 EK>   Pardon my seeming stupidity, but what is the
 EK> difference between a Pioneer
 EK> DMR600 and a DMR604X changer ?  Do you also sell them bundled with the
Well, other replies notwithstanding, the DRM604 also is photo-cd compatible and
has a faster access and disc changing sequence. The DRM 600 is now obsolete and
will shortly be unavailable.
:-#

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From: ADAM GILBERT                           Number: 3767
  To: JOSHUA ECKERMAN                          Date: 08/21/93 11:26a
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Do you know where i can get a good external cd-rom drive? I
 > dont need any extra software or anything just a drive. Later
 > I'll will be looking for a shareware disc. thanks.
 > ---
Hmmm....a mail order place somewhere.  I would suggest a Magnavox Exterenal if
you are going to be using it for a bbs.  They're slow, but they will work just
fine for a bbs.
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From: CHIP MORROW                            Number: 3768
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/22/93  9:19p
Subj: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>                           7TH GUEST IS HERE!!!

MS>        PRICE:  $39!!        In stock, ready for immediate delivery.

I have the same question someone else recently asked...

Is this the "full" version with the video?


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3769
  To: CHAD STUDY                               Date: 08/20/93 10:12p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Allright!  The responce I have been looking for ( Allthough I thank the
> generous people who were trying to help me out ( and make a buck
> heheheh.. ) )
> Are these files going to be orginized like Pier 2 or Night Owl 9 ?
> Or at least will every file have a description?
> I need a good Amiga CD for my BBS.
Hi Chad,
The individual is doing Amiga disk has published another shareware BBS disk in
the past and his disk is a good one despite to age of the programs. I am sure
he is doing a good job and this disk will be another winner in the market. The
price is right also!...:-) TTYL

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From: DAVID HARRISON                         Number: 3770
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 08/22/93  4:36p
Subj: Re: Night Owl 9 $25                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KP>   Night owl has a FILES.BBS, and it's a pretty nice CD.  It has about 60 fi
KP> areas, You can freq the complete list of files from me if you like ??  The
KP> magic Name will be NIGHT
KP>
KP>                         .....|<evin
I am not good with this freqing and routing stuff, so if you could, just
rroute it to me at 1:124/1211

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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 3771
  To: PAT RILEY                                Date: 08/23/93  8:37a
Subj: Multimedia Items For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sorry Pat,
     I can't let it go for that little.  Thanks for the offer!


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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 3772
  To: TYLER MIELNICHUK                         Date: 08/23/93  8:43a
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Tyler,
     I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM drive (MPC Compatible) hooked up to my
SoundBlaster Pro that I'd like to sell.  It also comes with eleven CD's.
Everything hooks up well to make a multimedia system.  If you already have a
SoundBlaster, I could sell you the drive and all eleven CD's for around $400.
If you are interested give me a call at [phone].  Thanks. Greg


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3773
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/23/93 12:00p
Subj: Disk                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Great! Since my last reply, I've also learned that the words "Graphic
Software" only appear on the Rel. 1 disk. Last I read, Boris got  something
like $425 for his BB/R1!!  I think I'll hang on to mine for a  while...(:>
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3774
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 08/23/93 12:01p
Subj: X movie review cd                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The subject line was left over from a previous  reply, I think - just  like it
is here - again.
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3775
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/22/93  1:56p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I have one copy of Busty Babes Version 1.0.  Anyone
 > interested in
 > bidding on it, please call or write.  Serious offers
 > starting at $250
 > only please.  Thank you!

 > Computer Works
 > Rt 3 Box 794-B
 >  Jim...
 > Ashford, AL 36312
 > [phone] Voice
 > [phone] BBS

    I am not buying I am selling BB#1, to best offer.
                                   Thanks anyway
                                      Pat
                               512-939-9822

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3776
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/22/93  2:01p
Subj: BB                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Are you looking for Busty Babes #1 as I have one. I have a offer of 275.00 but
its not ferm yet.
    Give me a call if you are interested.
                 Pat
                     512-939-9822

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3777
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  2:16p
Subj: Busty Babes for sale/trade              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Are you low on money but would like to get a hold of that all talked about CD
BB#1? Well heres your chance. I am looking for a cd player for my son, now I'm
talking about a good used one! Or maybe you have some old CDs that you would
like to trade. Also looking for a fast modem, tape backup or a mother board no
slower than a 386 40dx.
           Give me a call if you are interrested. Not everyone has cash.
                              Pat 512-939-9822

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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 3778
  To: MATT PETERSON                            Date: 08/18/93  9:34a
Subj: Mitsumi LU005 CDROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I was wondering if someone out there could tell me if it is a good deal
 > to get a Mitsumi LU005 Internal ISA CD-ROM drive for $225, or does
 > anyone out there have a cheaper source?  Or is that a good deal.

I purchased my LU005 from Ismail at Groupware for $175. Call 1-800-373-0628.

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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 3779
  To: ANISH ACHARYA                            Date: 08/21/93  5:04p
Subj: Remote Access 2.00                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >        Hello!  Just thought I'd point out that Remote-Access 2.00
 >        has internal support for drive switching.  Right now, RA 2.00
 >        is gamma (only available to Registered Users).  But I think
 >        the final release will be out before X-Mas.  Just though I'd
 >        let you know!!

The full blown non-gama release just popped into the RAFDN two days ago and is
now floating around the boards. Just thought I would let "you" know. Made it
well before x-mas.

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From: PAUL DIESTELHORST                      Number: 3780
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 08/23/93  2:05p
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to Mike Shannon, Tony Davis said:


 > >life on the edge. I'll take ALL THE BUSTY'S I CAN GET MY HANDS ON!

Hey, where can I get a copy of Busty Babes and how much?

                                            Paul

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From: PAUL DIESTELHORST                      Number: 3781
  To: HARRY WHEAT                              Date: 08/23/93  2:17p
Subj: 6 disk cd-rom changer                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Harry Wheat said:

 > I am looking for a BBS program that will run a 6 disk Cd-rom
 > changer on a BBS. I have looked all over and can't find
 > anything. If anyone knows of anything please leave me a
 > message.    Thank's
 >                                           Harry Wheat.......
Try The New RemoteAccess BBS 2.0 it haddles my Pioneer DRM-600 just fine and I
have two nodes. It lets you select an option to copy from the CD-ROM to your
harddrive freeing your CD-ROM for the other line to also access it. I have seen
users downloading the same program at the same time.

                                                    Paul

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From: PAUL DIESTELHORST                      Number: 3782
  To: JONATHAN MCGIRR                          Date: 08/23/93  3:22p
Subj: CD ROM Disk                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to Scott Martin, Jonathan Mcgirr said:

 > Not sure whether you want to be legal or not? Cracks are
 > illegal copies
 > of commercial software, or aren't you aware of that?


No, they arn't they are only tools used to do make illegal use of software. You
know that thing with the descambler for Cable T.V.? They sell them legal ,but
only for testing purposes. (HAHA)

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3783
  To: ART BREAULT                              Date: 08/22/93  6:56a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> My mitsumi drive is model crmc-lu002 internal. My interface is ide. I
-> cheat a little in the installation because I had the installation sof
-> install the drive into autoexec and config then I removed the lines
-> concerning the software interface and add it only on a menu program
-> then I used qemm and quardeck managers to load all into high memory.
-> Almost everytime had trouble with a software cd in was due to lack of
-> memory on the low end .Example on my disc Great Literature a file nam
-> discpack must load into low memory or the cd will act like it doesnt
-> exist. Without the file properly loaded the drive doesnt understand t
-> data on the disc. With the software access file installed you should
-> able to get a e E:\ prompt and run a dir read. Some cd rom have files
-> are 570k and that 570k must go into low memory. You can have 32meg of
-> memory but if only 565k are available low the cd wont read. The Compt
-> upgraded encyclopedia requires 4 meg operating memory, but a certain
-> amount must be under 640k or base memory. Your cd rom should come up
-> e:\ and print out a dir list.This means that your rom "sees" the data
-> Once that is established then to "read" the cd the langage must be pl
-> in low memory.This file is like the read files that load into memory
-> you run any program "they access the files" dos is not the langage of
-> of the things on the cd and certain compressions and data reguire tha
-> file to read.
->          If you are able to come up with a e:\ drive and are able to
-> the data then you are having a memory or a software problem .
Maybe you got me mixed up with somebody else? First, I would have to
have a CD-ROM program in order to have a conflict. I didn't get any with
the drive, and haven't gotten any yet.
I do have some music CD's though.

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3784
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 08/22/93  2:35p
Subj: MITSUMI AUDIO                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Not applicable - I have never owned a sound card (though I'm looking
-> ATI
-> as a possible future aquisition)....
I currently have the ATI Stereo F/X. It is a TERRIFIC card!
I am going to upgrade to the Stereo F/X CD. It has a Mitsumi interfac,
compatible with SBPro and also has enhanced noise filtering.

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: DON BRADEN                             Number: 3785
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/23/93  4:08p
Subj: order                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Mike, I have solved the problem with " My first time".
 I juggled around my config.sys and autoexec.bat to eliminate a couple
of drivers and lo and behold the disks worked perfectly.

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From: JAMES PUNG                             Number: 3786
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93 10:17p
Subj: For sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                           *****  FOR SALE *******

(8) 1megx9 Simms 70 ns          $35 ea. obo (1) Video Blaster
$200 obo (1) Toshiba CD-ROM Drive
    XM-3401B (bare)             $350 obo (1) Toshiba CD-ROM Drive and
Proaudio Spectrum 16 Multimedia kit.
                                $480 obo (1) Medium Tower, 200 watt P/S  $60
 obo

Leave message if interested...


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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 3787
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 08/21/93  2:08a
Subj: 7th guest $40                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> IA> For a limited time 7th Guest $40 plus shipping. ($3 US, $6
-> international).

-> Is this the full, retail version with box and video, or is it the
-> "cheap" version with disc only?

   Why... ya want the FULL version?  If so, we may be able to work out a
trade, if ya got any of your disks left....

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 3788
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/21/93  2:12a
Subj: Re: new cd southern beaut               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Mr. Hecker, I don't know what YOU are looking for (teenage girls?),
-> but senior citizens, THE MODELS ARE NOT!  The models that appear in
-> "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" are not only extremely attractive but appear

Uhhh.... I think that you failed to see the HUMOR in his post...

-> SH>   > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
                    ^^^^^^^

Re-Read the ABOVE section, it _could_ be taken either way, but I'm sure
everyone seriously knew what you were talking about...

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 3789
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  2:20p
Subj: Prophone disks needed....               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  I am looking for the ProPhone Set, preferably the 93 edition, but will
consider the 92 edition.  I have several disks that I could swap you for
the set, or if the price is right, could purchase.  If interested, reply
and I'll send you a list of disks that I have.

``              Todd

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3790
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93 10:36p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

What's up I thought this CD was selling like hot cakes? I sill have one and
would like to sell it. So anyone that is interested give me a call at
512-939-9822 before the price of this CD goes up to high to buy!
         Also will trade for CD player, CD's, tape backup, or mother board (at
lest a 40dx). Also in need of some simms. Call and lets make a deal!
                                  Pat

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From: MICHAEL KONOR                          Number: 3791
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93  6:52p
Subj: scsi cdrom                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No



SCSI CDROMs For Sale:

Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM External $200.00
Toshiba XM-3201B SCSI CDROM Internal $180.00

Works great on MS-DOS, OS/2, Amiga, and Mac.  Features 50 Pin True SCSI,
300ms access, 156k transfer, newest EPROMs installed, and 64k Buffer.
Service Center Refurbished. MPC Compliant. Warranty

205-837-5053 anytime.




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From: VADE FORRESTER                         Number: 3792
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/19/93  8:57p
Subj: Re: 2 ROMS FOR SALE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

What year is the Bookshelf?

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From: CHARLEY WEBB                           Number: 3793
  To: DAVID HARRISON                           Date: 08/23/93  3:31p
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DH >KP>  ******************************************************************
DH >KP>  *********                                                *********
DH >KP>  ***********           $ 25.00 a Copy !!!               ***********
DH >KP>  *********                                                *********
DH >KP>  ***********                                            ***********
DH >KP>  *********               Ask for Barney                   *********
DH >KP>  ***********           ------------------               ***********
DH >KP>  *********               1-800-638-5757                   *********
DH >KP>  ***********                                            ***********
DH >KP>  *********           We Will NOT be out Sold              *********
DH >KP>  ***********                                            ***********
DH >KP>  ******************************************************************

Thats odd, I paid $15.00 for a new Night Owl #9 cd.

... This copy of GEdit has been unregistered for 47 days.

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From: CHARLEY WEBB                           Number: 3794
  To: MARK WILLIAMSON                          Date: 08/23/93  5:13p
Subj: SONY CD ROM                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to All, Mark Williamson said:
MW >I have two Sony CD Rom drives Model CDU535-01.  Can someone
MW >out there tell me if these are good drives and what kind of
MW >interface card they connect to.  I got them at a swap meet
MW >and don't know how to hook them up.  What about
MW >terminator/DRQ settings?  Help me somebody!

Well I own 4 of them now, they are ok drives, but do not meet the MPC
requirements, so all I use them for is files. Did you get a controller with
them??? If not I have an extra here, if you want, I can be reached at
[phone].

... This copy of GEdit has been unregistered for 47 days.

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From: CHARLEY WEBB                           Number: 3795
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93  5:35p
Subj: Sony 535's wanted                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for 2 Sony CD-ROM drives, Model CDR-535, if anyone has any,
please leave me a message.

... This copy of GEdit has been unregistered for 47 days.

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 3796
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 08/22/93  2:27p
Subj: Mitsumi audio                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JR>Hi All;
JR>   Could one of you techies out there help me with a minor nagginy
JR>   problem.  I play my cd as an audio, using PLAYCD,  whenever I'm
JR>   not using it for a ROM drive and it works except whenever I
JR>   start an UPLOAD it stops.  What makes this so confusing is that
JR>   it just keeps right on trucking when I download leading me to
JR>   believe that there's no interupt conflict.  This is the only
JR>   time I have problems with it.  It's a Mitsumi internal using the
JR>   latest drivers.  I use telix on com 1, with a USR 14.4, and
JR>   either Zmodem or HSlink.

Jim, I don't think it is solely a CD-ROM problem.  I think it's in Telix.  It
might also have to do with using COM1 (or 3) which have an IRQ that is lower in
priority than COM2 (or 4); that is to say, if the modem was on 1, and a mouse
or something was on 2, the modem would pause in its work to allow the mouse to
use the system.  Hardly a good idea.  Given an option, move the modem to 2 or
4.

Next, I'd have to ask if the UART is at least 16550AFN, and did you tell Telix
to enable it?  (ALT-M,G,O)  You get above 9600 speed with most modems, on most
phone lines, they upchuck without the 16550 buffer.

I frequently have a problem with uploads stopping in mid-stride, even at
slower speeds, and the problem is NOT related to the CD-ROM.  Telix does such a
fine job of communicating by actually going into the heart of the machine, and
not dealing with supportive circuitry, and absolutely not sharing resources
with ANYthing else.  That is why it will NOT work with any known FOSSIL.  I
have to use X00 FOSSIL to share the two COMports (1&3) I use with 2 Terminal
Node Controllers on my Ham Radio station.

As long as there is NO activity on either of these modem-like gadgets, I can
upload on the telephone modem on COM4 with no problem.  If a weather bulletin
begins on COM3 meanwhile, Telix halts.  Immediately! It just flat refuses to
share the CPU with the other COM ports!  But I can download at the same time on
all 3!
    ~~~~~~~~
My only option is to kill the two TNCs when I wish to upload, and hope I
remember to re-enable them when done.  BTW, I use Telemate on the TNCs because
it DOES allow FOSSIL sharing.  If it were anywhere near as good as Telix on the
phone, I'd use it there as well.

I hope this helps somehow.

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

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From: J. GRAVELLE                            Number: 3797
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 08/23/93  3:04p
Subj: MITSUMI W/ QEMM                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CB> DH>WT>Question: Does anyone know why the Mitsumi's don't seem to work
CB> DH>WT>with QEMM.  The driver is a TSR and should be able to be moved
CB>
CB> DH>my drivers.So I put the Qemm line in my Config.sys so now
CB> DH>its just like running total Qemm except for Dos commands.  -
CB>
CB> What do you mean?
CB>
CB>  * SLMR 2.1 * Please smash head through monitor to continue.
CB>
CB> --- Maximus 2.01wb
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CB>
I was up half the night with this one myself, bud...
     get into the config.sys and autoexec.bat lines,
   and knock down the /M:## parameter little by
little until you stop getting the "TOO BIG FOR MEMORY"
line.   ...MR. Dude   [phone]
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3798
  To: TOM SUTER                                Date: 08/24/93  3:07a
Subj: Re: U.S. Mail                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Boris,

>>         I received my order today (21 August) in good shape.  I
>>         thought I would let you know that Uncle Sam's service was
>>     not as good as the cost they charged you and, if there is a
>>     guarantee, you should ask for a refund.  I noticed you
>>     shipped by Two Day Priority Mail, but the postmark was 4 days
>>     ago.  This is in no way a complaint from me to you since, as
>>     I told you, I was not in any real rush to receive the disks,
>>     but I feel that the Postal Service should perform in
>>     accordance with their claims.

Glad to hear your order was recieved in tack. As for Uncle Sams service, it
has been pretty good for the most part when you concider that most pacakges
are received within the two or three day period. Although this is not a
guareented service, it still works faster and for less the UPS or FED EX.

>>         BTW, thanks for the flyers you enclosed.  Do you also
>>     happen to have a catalog later than the one you enclosed with
>>     my drive last winter?

As one of our customers, you will be getting our all new catalog as soon
as it's completed. I think you'll enjoy it as it offer a lot of nice
features, more so than any paper one could.

Take care......

Boris Osadciw

... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3799
  To: LARISSA KOHLER                           Date: 08/24/93  3:07a
Subj: Re: 6 CDROM changer                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    I run a BBS with 3 online cdroms, but I only have 1 cdrom
>>    drive.  I was wondering if anyone knew of a 6 cdrom drive
>>    changer that ran by software.  I've seen 'em where you have to
>>    flip 'em manually, but I'd like to find one my users can flip.

There are several door programs that will allow you to do just want you
need above, regarding a 6 disk changer.

As we market both versions of the Pioneer unit's, we have a lot of customers
doing the same thing.

If you need further help, please feel free to call us at 216-225-3263
anytime and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3800
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  3:07a
Subj: LIMITED SUPPLY                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%  NEC'S 73's & 83's %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

        280ms access time - 150kps tarnsfer rate - Novell, OS/2
        and Windows Compatiable - Caddy System - Dasiy Chainable
        SCSI & SCSI 2 Support.   Refurbished - 90 day warranty

  Limited Supply - External Price - $249.  Internal Price - $225.
 Purchase any current Shareware CD for $15. additional with drive!

 ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: JIM MEINHARDT                          Number: 3801
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  4:41p
Subj: Billboard CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     I am look for a CD of Billboard Magazine.  I've seen this CD
advertised somewhere?!  If any dealer has it, leave me a note and tell
me the price.  Thanks.



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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 3802
  To: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                        Date: 08/23/93  4:12p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Blaine Richard <08-20-93 21:33> Chris Christensen wrote:

CC>   > In a message to Blaine Richard <08-18-93 00:02> Steve
CC>   > Hecker wrote:
CC>
CC>   > SH>   > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
CC>   > SH>   > From Original 35mm Slides
CC>   > SH>
CC>   > SH>          Blaine, pardon me for asking, but why would anyone
CC>  pay for a
CC>   > SH>  disk filled with gifs of senior citizens ? :-)
CC>
CC>   > Mr. Hecker, I don't know what YOU are looking for
CC>   > (teenage girls?),
CC>   > but senior citizens, THE MODELS ARE NOT!  The models
CC>   > that appear in
CC>
CC>  Wow, it seems to me that you are being a little thin skinned. It
CC>  seems to me that the senior citizens remark is in response to the
CC>  line that says 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models- with the "OVER 65 Models"
CC>  being the keywords. Note also that he put the smiley at the end of
CC>  the remark.
CC>
CC>  I guess some people just can't see or take a little joke. Personally
CC>  I got a chuckle out of it.

Chris, if the people reading Mr. Hecher's message did not see
that he meant it as a joke as you did, it would appear that
the models on "Southern Beauties" weren't as young and
attractive as they are. I missed the smiley at the end of his
remark.

I thought Mr. Hecker had also misquoted my message. I just went
back to double check whether it was possible that Mr. Hecker
had not misquoted my message and discovered that he had not.

All of the announcements of the release of "Southern Beauties"
stated the disc contained "Over 65 'TOP' Models" except ONE
(message of Aug 10, 1993) which did say "Over 65 Models".

Since Mr. Hecker was joking and not trashing "Southern Beauties",
THEN I AM ONLY TOO HAPPY TO APOLOGIZE! I would have worded my
reply differently simply to make certain that other people would
not misunderstand.

If I appeared to you to be a little thin skinned, please be
advised, we went to a lot of trouble to make "Southern Beauties"
as good a disc as possible; making sure that EVERY scan was
extremely sharp, color corrected, and had a variety of poses on
each model; with a variety of types of models.

Again, I wrongly thought that Mr. Hecker was trashing the disc
and APOLOGIZE!

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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 3803
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/23/93  4:14p
Subj: Re:  NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Blaine Richard <08-21-93 08:04> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>   BR> SH>   > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
BJ>  Don't mean to but in, Blaine, but I think Steve was trying to make a
BJ>  humorous reference to the syntax of your descriptive line (above).
BJ>  Note
BJ>  that it *could* be read as saying "..OVER 65 Models.." meaning
BJ>  they're
BJ>  more than 65 years of age instead of what I presume you meant, i.e.
BJ>  more
BJ>  than 65 different models. I haven't seen SB yet (waiting for Mike
BJ>  Shannon to send me a evaluation copy), but I'm familiar with some of
BJ>  the
BJ>  names you mentioned. They are indeed quite attractive. (:>>

Bob, if the people reading Mr. Hecher's message did not recognize
that it could have been a joke as you did, it would appear that
the models on "Southern Beauties" weren't as young and attractive
as they are.  I missed the smiley at the end of the remark.

I thought Mr. Hecker had also misquoted my message. I just went
back to double check whether it was possible that Mr. Hecker
had not misquoted my message and discovered that he did not.

All of the announcements of the release of "Southern Beauties"
stated the disc contained "Over 65 'TOP' Models" except ONE
(message of Aug 10, 1993) which did say "Over 65 Models".

Since Mr. Hecker was joking and not trashing "Southern Beauties",
THEN I AM ONLY TOO HAPPY TO APOLOGIZE!  I would have worded my
reply differently simply to make certain that other people would
not misunderstand.

We went to a lot of trouble to make "Southern Beauties" as good
a disc as possible; making sure that EVERY scan was extremely
sharp, color corrected, and had a variety of poses on each model;
with a variety of types of models.

I am anxious to read what you think about "Southern Beauties"
after you have had a chance to see it. Thanks for your message
explaining what Mr. Hecker may have meant. Again, I wrongly
thought that Mr. Hecker was trashing the disc and APOLOGIZE!

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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 3804
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/23/93  4:18p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Steve Hecker <08-19-93 17:42> Blaine Richard wrote:

BR>  In a message to Blaine Richard <08-18-93 00:02> Steve Hecker wrote:
BR>  SH>          Blaine, pardon me for asking, but why would anyone pay
BR>  for a
BR>  SH>  disk filled with gifs of senior citizens ? :-)
BR>
BR>  Mr. Hecker, I don't know what YOU are looking for (teenage girls?),
BR>  but senior citizens, THE MODELS ARE NOT!  The models that appear in
BR>  "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" are not only extremely attractive but appear
BR>  regularly in current issues of men's magazines and adult movies.
BR>  For example, Katie appears on the front cover and inside of CLUB's
BR>  October, 1993, issue and although they indicate she's 24 years old,
BR>  she is presently 19 and was 18 and 19 years old when she posed for
BR>  the images on "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES". Katie will also be in the October,
BR>  1993, issue of PENTHOUSE MAGAZINE. Crystal, Honey, and Angel are
BR>  all STARRING in current adult videos under the names Crystal Wilder
BR>  (24 years old), Bunny Blue (28 years old), and Angel Bust (23 years
BR>  old) respectively; while others are presently appearing in adult
BR>  videos.  With the exception of a few, every model has been published.
BR>
BR>  With regard to the models ages:
BR>   Jade (19 years old) who also appears on the back cover of the disc
BR>   Misty (18 years old) who also appears on the inside front cover
BR>   Maria (33 years old)
BR>
BR>  According to the photographer ALL the other models are between 19
BR>  years old and 29 years old WITH 90% OF THEM BEING BETWEEN THE AGES
BR>  OF 20 and 24 YEARS OLD.  I did not want to inconvenience the
BR>  photographer for more detailed information.
BR>
BR>  I suggest if you did not find the models on "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" to
BR>  be young enough, that you find a supplier of kiddie porn and HAVE
BR>  A GOOD TIME!  We have had complaints about the disc not being for
BR>  use on BBSs, but none about the ages of the models or the fact that
BR>  they are not attractive.
BR>
BR>  To the SYSOPS who do not like the fact that "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" can
BR>  not be put on their BBS, we have recommended that they offer the disc
BR>  for sale on their BBS.  Many of them that followed our advice have
BR>  found that they can make more money from the sales of "SOUTHERN
BR>  BEAUTIES" than they do from subscription fees.
BR>

Steve, if the people reading your message did not recognize that
you meant it as a joke, it would appear that the models on
"Southern Beauties" weren't as young and attractive as they
are. I missed the smiley at the end of your remark.

I thought you had also misquoted my message. I just went back to
double check whether it was possible that you had not misquoted
my message and discovered you had not.

All of the announcements of the release of "Southern Beauties"
stated the disc contained "Over 65 'TOP' Models" except ONE
(message of Aug 10, 1993) which did say "Over 65 Models".

Since you were not trashing "Southern Beauties", I AM ONLY TOO
HAPPY TO APOLOGIZE!  I would have worded my reply differently
simply to make certain that other people would not misunderstand.

We went to a lot of trouble to make "Southern Beauties" as good
a disc as possible; making sure that EVERY scan was extremely
sharp, color corrected, and had a variety of poses on each model;
with a variety of types of models.

Again, I wrongly thought that you were trashing the disc and
APOLOGIZE!

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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 3805
  To: JEFF COCHRAN                             Date: 08/23/93  4:20p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Blaine Richard <08-21-93 16:31> Jeff Cochran wrote:

JC>   > JC>   >  ********** SOUTHERN BEAUTIES MAY NOT BE USED ON ANY BBS
JC>   > JC>
JC>   > JC>  Kinda cuts its market...
JC>
JC>
JC>   > To the SYSOPS who do not like the fact that "SOUTHERN
JC>   > BEAUTIES" can
JC>   > not be put on their BBS, we have recommended that they
JC>   > offer the disc
JC>   > for sale on their BBS.
JC>
JC>  It's not that I don't like it, I respect your decision to protect
JC>  your copyrights.  Just means I'm not a potential customer since I
JC>  don't have the time to stare at pretty women (alright, I can make the
JC>  time...) on the CD.
JC>
JC>  As for selling it, I'd be inclined to if I could get a reasonable
JC>  discount from you and you wouldn't turn around and offer it to my
JC>  users for less than I can sell it for. By reasonable discount, I'm
JC>  talking 35-50% off your retail price.

Jeff, thanks for your response. Graphical Images of of Florida
does not sell to anyone in quantities less than 2,000, so you
need not worry about our undercutting your retail price.

You may contact Fay Sharp at TradeShows, Inc. at 317-651-1223
to get her pricing. I think that her current pricing structure
for BBS operators is:

        Quantity                Unit            Cost

         1 to Retail buyers     40.00            40.00
         1 to Sysops buyers     29.00            29.00
        10                      22.00           220.00
        50                      20.00         1,000.00

You could expect to sell Southern Beauties for between $ 35.00
and $ 40.00.

This would be over a 50% to 100% markup.

Blaine.

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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 3806
  To: STEVE HECKER                             Date: 08/23/93  4:30p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Blaine Richard <08-18-93 00:02> Steve Hecker wrote:

SH>   >
SH>   > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
SH>   > From Original 35mm Slides
SH>
SH>
SH>          Blaine, pardon me for asking, but why would anyone pay for a
SH>  disk filled with gifs of senior citizens ? :-)

Regarding my reply of Aug. 19th:

Steve, if the people reading your message did not recognize that
you meant it as a joke, it would appear that the models on
"Southern Beauties" weren't as young and attractive as they
are. I missed the smiley at the end of your remark.

I thought you had also misquoted my message. I just went back to
double check whether it was possible that you had not misquoted
my message and discovered you had not.

All of the announcements of the release of "Southern Beauties"
stated the disc contained "Over 65 'TOP' Models" except ONE
(message of Aug 10, 1993) which did say "Over 65 Models".

Since you were not trashing "Southern Beauties", I AM ONLY TOO
HAPPY TO APOLOGIZE!  I would have worded my reply differently
simply to make certain that other people would not misunderstand.

We went to a lot of trouble to make "Southern Beauties" as good
a disc as possible; making sure that EVERY scan was extremely
sharp, color corrected, and had a variety of poses on each model;
with a variety of types of models.

Again, I wrongly thought that you were trashing the disc and
APOLOGIZE!

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From: MARK GRYN                              Number: 3807
  To: YVES DESJARDINS                          Date: 08/23/93 10:54a
Subj: CD for trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >  MM>  I am interested in the Microprose Mantis and Civilization game..

    I'm afraid I missed your original message, but, I assume that you have
this?  If it's a CD with both of those games on it, I'd like to get it from
you...

    Only CD game I've got to trade is Loom, by LucasFilm. Very cool, and I've
still got the manual of course...

    Barring that, I've also got a Colossal Cookbook CD that is chock full of
recipes...

    Lemme know, otherwise, how much are you willing to sell it for?
                                                     ┌┬╖ä⌠│<

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From: DAVID ROBERTS                          Number: 3808
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/23/93  7:25p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes 1.0                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 LN>No problem, Jim...the label film on the disc says, "Graphic Software"
 >--Dealers now have bids for $350.00 per each 1.0 disc--
 >Versions 2.0 and 3.0 do not have these large font words on the disc film
 >--If you have one of these, hold onto it--

I read this message you had left Lee and am just wondering why is this disk
so valuable, I paid $25 for it 6 months ago.

... "With the lights out, it's less dang'rous"
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From: RON BRIDGEMON                          Number: 3809
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/23/93 10:32p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No





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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 3810
  To: EVERYBODY                                Date: 08/23/93  8:21p
Subj: -=- The Storage Specialists -=-         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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-=-
-=- TOSHIBA XM-3401
-=- Internal            200MS     505.00 -=-
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-=- Internal            270MS     405.00 -=-
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-=- Internal            350MS     189.00 -=-
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-=- 1.800.224.5150
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-=- 1.303.940.1012
-=-
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-=- Personal and Company Checks, C.O.D.
-=-
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-=- provided we have stock. Shipping and Handling not included in prices
-=- mentioned above.
-=-
-=- We also carry a HUGE selection of Hard Drives and Storage Devices!
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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 3811
  To: EDDIE PHILLIPS                           Date: 08/22/93  7:58a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes 1.0                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for the offer, I'll keep you in mind.(But I won't hold my breath!!)

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3812
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/22/93  7:52p
Subj: PRECISION MAPPING UPDATE!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >I DONT HAVE THAT MUCH CASH BUT I AM WILLING TO GIVE UP
  >MY NIGHT OWL'S CD AND LIKE SAY $10. COME ON
  >MAN BE A BUD!!!!!!

Now THAT's an offer too good to refuse! <Howl!>  You would only be
losing $40 or $50, right?  Be a bud!  ;)

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3813
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/22/93  8:05p
Subj: CD ROM Disk                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>The GAMEWARE Collection is the best I've seen.  We have them in stock
  >at $24.  Around 640mb of games, some older but mostly the newer releases.
  >Fully BBS-compatible with file listings in several formats.  Gimme a
  >call if you're interested!

Hi Mike.  Can you send me one Gameware and charge it to my AMEX card?
Let me know if there is any problem.  Thanks!

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3814
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  8:30p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have just finished making our new CD-Rom catalog.  We have many new
products and have reduced the price on a lot of the others.  If you
would like a copy of this catalog, please log on and download
catalog.zip.  It lists all of our titles with prices and descriptions.
If you are looking for a shareware CD-Rom, be sure to check file area
#15 for the file list.  Downloads permitted on the first call.  Thanks!

Computer Works                                  Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS 14.4k        Online Credit Card & COD Orders

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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 3815
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 08/23/93  5:40p
Subj: New Echo - Multimedia                   Refer: NONE
Read: 08/27/93  8:12p                       Private: No

-> This echo also can be ported to any other sister nets and RIME.

 TH> If you use the FIDOnet nodelist, you have to adhear to FIDOnet
 TH> policy - policy that prevents cross posting mail in multiple networks.
 TH> RIME has similar policy, too.

 TH> The nodelist can only be used to "participate in FIDOnet"... This is
 TH> clearly stated at the beginning of the nodelist.  If you use the
 TH> nodelist for any other purpose, you'll be violating Tom Jenning's
 TH> copyright.  You probably don't care, based on your past business
 TH> practices.

 TH> tim
 TH> moderator



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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 3816
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/23/93  5:41p
Subj: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS>
 MS> *******************************************************
 MS> *****************
 MS>                           7TH GUEST IS HERE!!!
 MS>
 MS> *******************************************************
 MS> *****************

 MS>        PRICE:  $39!!        In stock, ready for immediate delivery.

 MS>  MINIMUM Requirements:  2 Megs RAM * 386DX CPU * 16 bit SVGA video card
 MS>  with at least 512K RAM * CD-ROM Drive w/ 150K per
 MS> second minimum transfer
 MS>  rate * Sound card w/ FM and PCM sound * Mouse * Hard
 MS> drive w/ 10 Megs free
 MS>  MSCDEX 2.2 or higher * DOS 5.0

 MS>  RECOMMENDED Hardware:  486sx 20mhz or faster CPU * 4 Megs RAM * Fast
 MS>  16 bit SVGA video card w/ 1 Meg RAM or local bus video * CD-ROM drive w/
 MS>  300k per second transfer rate and less than 300 ms access time * Roland
 MS>  LAPC-1, MT-32, or Sound Canvas and 16 bit PCM Sound Card

 MS>  ------------------------------------------------------
 MS> --------------------
 MS>        "This is the new standard in multimedia entertainment.  This
 MS>         is the future."       - Bill Gates, Chairman Microsoft Corp.
 MS>  ------------------------------------------------------

        Sorry.. but I have to add this:

                KINGS QUEST VI  (CD ROM VERSION)

                "Proof that the era of CD gaming is upon us"
                                        Peter Spear, QuestBusters

                "The Magic Is back and Sierra HAS another definite winner.
                In Kings Quest VI, Sierra UPS the Technology another notch."
                                                -PC Magazine

                "Bigger and Bolder, this is THE Adventure few can Resist."
                                                -Compute

                "The music and animation are EXCEPTIONAL, as is the story.
                 Hats off to Sierra for another sparkling gem."
                                                -Dragon

                "It is easy to see why Kings Quest is the best selling
                game series OF ALL TIME"
                                                -Computer Game Review

                "Kings Quest VI is not just EXELENT, its a LANDMARK
                GAME."
                                                -QuestBusters


                "A stunning -50 Meggabyte- animated introduction,
                created by KRONOS, The special effects masters who
                who brought you BATMAN RETURNS and LAWNMOWER MAN."

                "1024 by 480 SVGA and XGA 65,000,000 COLOR, PATENTED
                LIP-SYNCHING TECNOLOGY characters."




                        Just to add.. the price for this is
                        APPROX 70.00.

                I recomend that you team up with Sierra and get this
                on your price list.  maybe even at discounted prices..
                this game is well... FAR Beyond 7th Guest.. even though
                I would recomend it..  anyways... see if you can get
                KINGS QUEST VI CD ROM VER.  It'll sell SO fast.. I'll
                PROMISE you that..


                        Chris Johnson




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From: VBALLNUT                               Number: 3817
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 08/23/93 11:39p
Subj: Re: busty babes v1.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Michael Kelly to Eddie Phillips <=-

 EP>  KT> I have Busty Babes First Edition for sale to the highest
 MK> bidder.  It

 EP> $15

 MK> How about $15.25?

Ok, that sounds ok....where do I mail the check ??  Or if you live near
Raleigh or RTP, we could meet....let me know....thanks !!

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From: WILLIAM DUPREE                         Number: 3818
  To: DAVID VANGELDER                          Date: 08/23/93  8:43p
Subj: New cd - southern beautie               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DV<<<675 Megs-Over 65 TOP MODELS-1000 GIFs-1024x768x256 From Original
  <<<35mm Slides-Includes 300 Megs of the Best Images in 24 bit True
  <<<Color. Installs Quickly & Easily - Menu Driven - User Friendly -
  <<<Popup Help - Mouse Support - Keyword Search - Sound Blaster
  <<<Front Loader - Multiple Directory Slide Show Capability

DV<<<******************* NOT FOR USE ON YOUR BBS!!! *****************

DV<<<Since "Southern Beauties" may not be used on your BBS, YOU MAY
  <<<WANT TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE ON A MAIL ORDER BASIS.

DV<<<                        GRAPHICAL IMAGES OF FLORIDA, INC.
  <<<                        P. O. Box 941151
  <<<                        Maitland, FL 32794-1151

Give me a price on the cd..(I run a bbs too.) 9198706030 or reply here
===
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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 3819
  To: VBALLNUT                                 Date: 08/24/93  9:18a
Subj: busty babes v1.0                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

V>  -=> Quoting Michael Kelly to Eddie Phillips <=-

V>  MK> How about $15.25?

    That was my bid for the CD.

V> Ok, that sounds ok....where do I mail the check ??  Or if you live near

    I do not own the CD, I was making a counter-offer to the seller for it.

    If you own it, and are satisfied with that price, please let me know and we
can meet somewhere in the RTP area.

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 3820
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93  9:06p
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

@SUBJECT:Wanted, Comptons encyclopedia                               N
If anyone has Comptons MPC Encyclopedia for sale used, I want it
leave message
-Jeff


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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 3821
  To: JOHN TRIMBACK                            Date: 08/24/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: CDROM Drives                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

John,

Yes I am refering to the SIMMs, sorry that I didn't use quoting!!


Later


Bill

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From: DYLAN GORDON                           Number: 3822
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  8:41a
Subj: Cdrom                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        Can any Canadian distributors give me a price quote on the So Much
Screenware Gif CDROM, with shipping and handling?

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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 3823
  To: ANISH ACHARYA                            Date: 08/22/93  6:55a
Subj: Remote Access 2.00                      Refer: NONE
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RE: Remote Access 2.00
BY: Anish Acharya to Harry Wheat on Thu Aug 19 1993 04:52 pm

The real version of RA V2.00 came out on the 18th, freq RA_200.ARJ from
103/955, or d/l on first call to The Interchange BBS 714-498-8123, file is
800+K, system is running v32b/v42b.
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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 3824
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/22/93  7:51a
Subj: Re: New Cd Southern Beauties            Refer: NONE
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 BR> To the SYSOPS who do not like the fact that "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES" can
 BR> not be put on their BBS, we have recommended that they offer the disc
 BR> for sale on their BBS.  Many of them that followed our advice have
 BR> found that they can make more money from the sales of "SOUTHERN
 BR> BEAUTIES" than they do from subscription fees.
 BR>
I'm sure you'd love that.  Exclude the sysops by telling them they can't use
it
on their BBS and then suggest they peddle it for ya!  Only an idiot would run
a
BBS to make money as it is nearly impossible.  Most sysops uses that
subscription money to buy CD's for the BBS, etc.  Looks like they won't be
spending any of that sub money on this one.


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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 3825
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  3:05p
Subj: Cdrom Bbs Door!!                        Refer: NONE
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I'll spare quoting Robert's advertisement.  Just wanted to reply and say it
ain't a bad deal for $20.  It has allready made my life much simplier.  About
the only thing I'd like to see that it doesn't do is allow users to search
offline ROMS and then request them generating a list which would be used to
prompt the sysop for the required disks so they could be copied to the HD.
But
that would be asking alot of any package (especially for only $20).  I don't
have any connection with Mr. Lee other than being a happy customer.


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3826
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93  3:31a
Subj: Red Hot Specials                        Refer: NONE
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$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: KEVIN KING                             Number: 3827
  To: ED KELLERMANN                            Date: 08/22/93  5:12p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom List                         Refer: NONE
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send me a copy of yur Cd-Disk catalog as well.

Kevin King, SysOp
'My Favorite BBS' 916-381-2851
P.O. Box 277482
Sacramento, CA, 95827


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From: JOHN ROBERTSON                         Number: 3828
  To: ED KELLERMANN                            Date: 08/22/93 10:15p
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems                       Refer: NONE
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Hi, Ed! recently you asked...
 EK> Boris,
 EK>   Pardon my seeming stupidity, but what is the
 EK> difference between a Pioneer
 EK> DMR600 and a DMR604X changer ?  Do you also sell them bundled with the
Well, other replies notwithstanding, the DRM604 also is photo-cd compatible
and
has a faster access and disc changing sequence. The DRM 600 is now obsolete
and
will shortly be unavailable.
:-#

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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 3829
  To: PAT RILEY                                Date: 08/23/93  8:37a
Subj: Multimedia Items For Sale               Refer: NONE
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Sorry Pat,
     I can't let it go for that little.  Thanks for the offer!


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From: GREG MANTER                            Number: 3830
  To: TYLER MIELNICHUK                         Date: 08/23/93  8:43a
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Tyler,
     I have a Mitsumi CD-ROM drive (MPC Compatible) hooked up to my
SoundBlaster Pro that I'd like to sell.  It also comes with eleven CD's.
Everything hooks up well to make a multimedia system.  If you already have a
SoundBlaster, I could sell you the drive and all eleven CD's for around $400.

If you are interested give me a call at [phone].  Thanks. Greg


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3831
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 08/23/93 12:01p
Subj: X Movie Review Cd                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The subject line was left over from a previous  reply, I think - just  like it
is here - again.
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 3832
  To: ANISH ACHARYA                            Date: 08/21/93  5:04p
Subj: Remote Access 2.00                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >        Hello!  Just thought I'd point out that Remote-Access 2.00
 >        has internal support for drive switching.  Right now, RA 2.00
 >        is gamma (only available to Registered Users).  But I think
 >        the final release will be out before X-Mas.  Just though I'd
 >        let you know!!

The full blown non-gama release just popped into the RAFDN two days ago and is

now floating around the boards. Just thought I would let "you" know. Made it
well before x-mas.

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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 3833
  To: JERRY SMITH                              Date: 08/23/93  6:40a
Subj: Nodelist/copyright                      Refer: NONE
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-> Hi Tim--Get ahold of the U.S. Supreme Court Report for Feist
-> Publicactions, Inc. v Rural Telephone Service Company, Inc.
-> (113 L Ed 2d 358), decided March 27, 1991.  It provides a clear,

Thanks Jerry... I'll take a look at it.

tim


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From: PAUL DIESTELHORST                      Number: 3834
  To: JONATHAN MCGIRR                          Date: 08/23/93  3:22p
Subj: Cd Rom Disk                             Refer: NONE
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* In a message originally to Scott Martin, Jonathan Mcgirr said:

 > Not sure whether you want to be legal or not? Cracks are
 > illegal copies
 > of commercial software, or aren't you aware of that?


No, they arn't they are only tools used to do make illegal use of software.
You
know that thing with the descambler for Cable T.V.? They sell them legal ,but
only for testing purposes. (HAHA)

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From: DON BRADEN                             Number: 3835
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/23/93  4:08p
Subj: Order                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Mike, I have solved the problem with " My first time".
 I juggled around my config.sys and autoexec.bat to eliminate a couple
of drivers and lo and behold the disks worked perfectly.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3836
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93 12:01a
Subj: BUSTY & ECSTASY PAK: $49                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                     SPECIAL LIMITED TIME OFFER!
                     ---------------------------

        Busty Babes 3.0 + Ecstasy Hot Pics..............$49.00

 Get a great price on the #1 and #2 top-selling adult CD's of all time!
 Hurry while quantities last.

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3837
  To: TYRONE THOMASON                          Date: 08/24/93 12:01a
Subj: MAPS CDROM Which one?                   Refer: NONE
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TT>DR> JR>  Looking for a good USA Map where I can get very detailed on street
TT>DR> JR>  level. I was looking at these two, and I wanted to know what you
TT>DR> JR>  guys thought about these programs.
TT>DR> JR>              1. Precision Mapping
TT>DR> JR>              2. Street Atlas

TT>DR>I sell both, but personally recommend Precision Mapping.


TT>I am considering being one of these two programs.  Can you please tell
TT>me why you prefer Precision Mapping more?  Is it more accurate, have
TT>more features?  Also, send a number so that I may order once I make up
TT>my mind.

Ty,

I like it better because it lets you print, modify, and even create your
own maps.  Plus, if you want to cut a portion of a map, and import it
into another program, you can do it.  Street Atlas, besides having two
year old data, doesn't have these features.  Also, Precision Mapping
runs faster because it doesn't have Windows hanging overhead.  We have
the updated version 1.5b in stock at $88 if you're interested.  Street
Atlas is also in stock at $86.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3838
  To: DOUG STRIEFLER                           Date: 08/24/93 12:01a
Subj: Swimsuit                                Refer: NONE
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DS>wanted
DS>does anyone know of a swimsuit cd
DS>where to buy
DS>and how much

Doug,

One of the best I've seen is Swimwear 93 at $29.  Lots of high quality
swimsuit images, and ready for BBS use if that's your intention.  Also
have Women of Venus @ $29, and Lovely Ladies II @ $28, but they lack
any sort of file listing.  Call me any time if interested.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3839
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93 12:01a
Subj: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                       +-------------------------+
  CHECK                |   SPECIAL BONUS OFFER   |     GET A FULL 650MB
                       +-------------------------+     OF RECENT SHAREWARE
     THIS              |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0    |     FOR
                       |     REVISED EDITION     |          ONLY
        OUT !!         |    SHAREWARE CD ONLY    |
                       |  $4.00  W/ PURCHASE OF  |         4   BUCKS!
           ----------> |    ANY PACKAGE DEAL!    |         ----------
                       +-------------------------+

-------------[ CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS ]------------------------------------

1. Night Owl 7.0     2. Storm 1     3. Southern Beauties     4. Hot Pix 3
   Night Owl 8.0        Storm 2        All Beauties             Hot Pix 4
   Night Owl 9.0        Storm 3        Amateur Models           Hot Pix 5
   -------------        -------        --------------           ---------
   $69                  $69            $89                      $79


       5. Night Owl 8.0     6. Night Owl 9     7. All Beauties
          Night Owl 9.0        Pier 2             Southern Beauties
          -------------        ------             -----------------
          $53                  $59                $59


8. Up All Night            9. Empire Clipart             10. Pier 2
   Super CD 2                 Clipart Heaven                 SW Vault 2
   So Much Shareware 3        Encyclopedia of Clipart        SW Studio 2
   -------------------        -----------------------        -----------
   $63                        $59                            $65


11. CD Winbox      12. House of Games     13. Busty Babes     14. Storm 2
    Windows 93         Game Arena             Ecstasy             Storm 3
    ----------         ----------             -------             -------
    $44                $35                    $49                 $49


15. Fantazia Fonts         16. Porkware 1       17. Compton's Interactive
    Fontmaster 2               Porkware 2           U.S. Atlas MPC
    Too Many Typefonts         All Beauties         Learning Adventure
    ------------------         ------------         ------------------
    $49                        $89                  $129


PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .

               WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3840
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93 12:01a
Subj: ADULT CD 7-PAK: $135                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                    [[[[  ADULT CD PACKAGE DEALS  ]]]]
  -------------------------------------------------------------------------


              ADULT CD 7-PAK                   SEEDY-ROM 7-PAK
              --------------                   ---------------
                  Storm 1                        Seedy-ROM 1
                  Storm 2                        Seedy-ROM 2
                  Storm 3                        Seedy-ROM 3
                 Hot Pix 2                       Seedy-ROM 4
                 Hot Pix 3                       Seedy-ROM 5
                 Hot Pix 4                       Seedy-ROM 6
                 Hot Pix 5                       Seedy-ROM 7

                 - $135 -                         - $159 -

              ($19.29 per CD)                  ($22.71 per CD)
             30-35% duplication                0% duplication!
                 BBS-Ready                        BBS-Ready
               27,000+ files                    32,000+ files

     ------------------------------------------------------------------
     *         BONUS:  Porkware 1 only $25 w/ either package!         *
     ------------------------------------------------------------------

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3841
  To: PAUL DIESTELHORST                        Date: 08/24/93  1:29p
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
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 > * In a message originally to Mike Shannon, Tony Davis
 > said:


 >> >life on the edge. I'll take ALL THE BUSTY'S I CAN GET MY HANDS ON!

 > Hey, where can I get a copy of Busty Babes and how
 > much?

 >                                             Paul

I have Busty Babes for sale. Give me a call at 512-939-9822
We can talk price.
                                            Pat

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3842
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 08/23/93 11:39a
Subj: Aviation CD                             Refer: NONE
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-> Does anybody sell a CD dedicated to Aviation stuff?  I run an aviatio
-> oriented BBS and would like something like this for my collection.
There is one called the 'aircraft encyclopedia' advertised juast about
anywhere....
I am an aviation nut myself! What's you BBS number?

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 3843
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 08/23/93 11:42a
Subj: CDRom & Sound Blaster                   Refer: NONE
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-> This is a package CD/Sound card system.  Sweet and easy to setup.
-> This is not the inferior MITSUMI CD Players all owners are having pro
-> with read errors using some CDs.  This system is fully MPC compatible
Hey you twit! Quit insulting my 'inferior' CD-ROM drive!!!
Just because you can't make a mil and dollar profit off it doesn't mean
it's 'inferior'!
I've had NO problems with mine and a lot of other people haven't
either!!!!

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: BRIAN DHATT                            Number: 3844
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/23/93  4:34p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
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Sunday August 22 1993 01:40, Boris Osadciw wrote to Ed Kellermann:

 BO> Ed, the DMR600 is a 600ms drive with a 150kps transfer rate. While the
 BO> DMR604X is a 300ms drive with a 600kps transfer rate. Other than that
 BO> both units offer the same features.

Don't forget that the DMR604x offers Multi-Session Photo-CD support and XA
disc support.

Brian

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 3845
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 08/24/93  9:56a
Subj: $99 cd rom drives                       Refer: NONE
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 JP> Terry, did you get my messages of 2 weeks ago?  1) i was trying to find
 JP> out if you ever got any of the Hitachi 3600's in and secondly to see how
 JP> many of the 3500's you had left.


Sorry they are all gone.  If you send me your voice phone number I'll call you
if I get more.


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From: JEFF PAZAHANICK                        Number: 3846
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/24/93 10:38a
Subj: A FEW CHESTNUTS LEFT! 2/2               Refer: NONE
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1. THE COMPLETE BOOKSHOP - An entire bookshop on CD! Includes classics,
   poetry, humor, cookbooks, American history and founding documents, novels,
   short stories, home improvement guides, computer tutors, and more!

4. TECHNOTOOLS - A programmer's dream disc! Routines, utilities, debuggers,
   troubleshooters, and other programming tools for C/C++, dBase, Clipper,
   Basic, Assembler, AI, Unix, OS/2, Pascal, Forth, and more!

12. SHAREWARE OVERLOAD - Over 6100 programs (550mb compressed) for all
    applications, with an emphasis on games and Windows programs.  Subjects
    include business, clipart, communications, BBS, database, education,
    finance, games, graphics, religion, sound, utilities, Windows, & more!

Ship these COD to

Boss Computers
6274 Allan Street
Halifax, Nova Scotia
B3L 1G9
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From: JEFF PAZAHANICK                        Number: 3847
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/24/93 10:38a
Subj: CDROM SPECIALS                          Refer: NONE
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BO> *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
  >Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
  >Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
  >Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
  >Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
  >Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
  >Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
  >Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.

Is the NEC36 the only SCSI?
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From: J. ALLEN                               Number: 3848
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93 10:41a
Subj: FORSALE USED CD-ROM DISKS               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the following CD-ROM disks for sale or possible swaps.  All disks
are used and there is only one of each.  Prices do not include shipping.
$25.00 minimum order (Not interested in packing and shipping a single
$5.00 disk.) Reasonable offers considered (especially multi-disk).
DO NOT RESPOND IN THIS ECHO!!  Direct E-mail offers to 1:2201/13
Descriptions are my own and may not be exact.

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          CD-ROM NAME             DESCRIPTION

15.00   BUSINESS MASTER         Shareware Business Software from NiteOwl
11.00   NIGHT OWL 4.0         | NightOwl CD's are excellent disks. Each
12.00   NIGHT OWL 4.2         | CD is filled with ZIPed programs only and
13.00   NIGHT OWL 5.0         | are sorted into directories with full
14.00   NIGHT OWL 6.0         | file descriptions included. Each CD has
15.00   NIGHT OWL 6.1         | 6-20 thousand programs in 40-60 DIRs.
18.00   NIGHT OWL 7.0         | PC BOARD FILES.BBS text files included.
19.00   NIGHT OWL 8.0         | These are shareware and bbs ready
18.00   ORIGINAL SHAREWARE 92   8000 files
11.00   SIMTEL (Jan. 92)      | 8000 files,LAN,other Platforms,135 DIRs
13.00   SIMTEL (Dec. 92)      | 8500 files,160 DIRs ect.
11.00   VGA SPECTRUM            400 megs of VGA,HiRes Gifs,Sound files
15.00   WINDOWS CDROM           140 megs of WINDOWS programs and util.
 5.00   MEDLINE                 Medline Database
 5.00   LAW LIBRARY             Social Law Library
12.00   WINDOWS/OS2             Windows and OS/2 commercial demos
 5.00   SOFTWARE DATABASE       Huge database of software/venders
 5.00   ACADEMIC ABSTRACTS      Magazine article search/database
18.00  ShareWare Bonanza 2   | Database, education,DTP,Ham, Business,WP
(both) ShareWare Bonanza 3   | Basic,C,Printer, Disk, Key,Screen, Home,
- - - ->Note: No disk #1 )   | ASP,Clipart,Spreadsheet,Os2,Windows
10.00   ROMWARE Magazine        Romware Magazine Vol 2, #1, March 92
                                CIA Factbook for 91+large movies
                                database with over 1000 stills in PCX
15.00   Lions Share             Mastered late/92-Good select of all types
11.00   Gigabyte of Shareware   10,000+ files,incl large GIF and Games
16.0    PowerPak Gold           7,000 files.  Sound Blaster Front Loader
15.00   Danger Hot Stuff        Collection of Graphics/Gifs/Animations
                                with SB support - Rated G
15.00   The War Chest           Military Info/Personal Locator/War Papers
18.00   Golden Immortal         Golden Immortal - arcade game
15.00   Hall of Fame Shareware  Shareware Programs- 75 Directories/BBS
18.00   Guinness Disk Records   Guinness Disk of Records
25.00   The Manhole             The Manhole - arcade game for kids
15.00   Compuadd Words Games    Compuadd's  Words and Games disk
25.00   Amercian Housing        Amercian Housing Survey/Goverment Stats
25.00   Country's World         Country's of the World - Much world
info/data
20.00   CD Game Pak II          Software Toolworks GamePack II
25.00   Food Analyst            Food Analyst software/database
18.00   Birds of America        Birds of America - Multimedia
18.00   Mammals                 Mammals - Multimedia
      |-Earth and Space Science | A three disk collection of earth
29.00-| Earth and Space Science | and science material from many
      |-Earth and Space Science | sources.  Plenty of Sat. Gifs
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Send offers/replies to 1:2201/13  Fidonet

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From: JOSEPH FEDERKINS                       Number: 3849
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93 12:06a
Subj: CD-ROMS #1                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD-ROM Drives
=================================================================

Toshiba - 3401 Series - World's Fastest Access Time : 200ms
 - Fully Integrated Audio
 - Double Speed                              Internal $510 + shipping
 - 5.25" CD-ROM Cartridge Drive              External $620 + shipping
 - 330 KB/sec transfer
 - Embedded SCSI-2 Interface
 - MPC compliant
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible


TEAC CD-50 - Access Time : 265ms            Internal $378 + shipping
 - 300 KB/sec transfer rate
 - AntiDust design
 - SCSI-2 Compatible
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - SCSI-2 Interface kit required


NEC - Access Time : 280ms                    Internal $576 + shipping
 - CD Audio Capable                          External $653 + shipping
 - 265K Cache
 - 2 year warranty
 - Multispin 300 KB/sec transfer rate
 - Double dust doors and auto lens dust brush
 - High performance XT/AT, SCSI-2 Interface Kit Included
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible


Mitsumi - Access Time : 350ms                Internal $209 + shipping
 - 32K Buffer
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - Includes 16bit interface card, cable, and device driver
 - Internal Half Height form factor
 - 150 KB/sec transfer rate
 - Patented Dust proof design
 - Multimedia compliant


Sony Desktop Library Multimedia Starter Kit  Internal $307 + shipping
 - Access Time : 550ms
 - Includes 16bit interface card and cable
 - Complete Documentation
 - Installation Software
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - Internal Half Height form factor
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Includes 4 CD-ROM software titles


Sony Desktop Library Complete Multimedia Kit
 - Access Time : 550ms
 - Includes 16bit interface card and cable
 - 16-bit Pro Audio Spectrum sound board     Internal $505 + shipping
 - Sony SRS-58PC speakers and batteries      External $593 + shipping
 - Complete Documentation
 - Installation Software
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Includes 7 CD-ROM software titles

 Future Business Consultants, Inc     Custom configurations are
 1749 West Golf Road    Suite 305     always available
 Mount Prospect, Illinois   60056
 [phone]  M-F 10am - 8pm    SAT 12n  - 4pm
 [phone]  FAX               >>> All times are CST <<<

  Quanities are limited.    Prices are subject to change         8/18/93
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From: JOSEPH FEDERKINS                       Number: 3850
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93 12:06a
Subj: CD-ROMS #2                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD-ROM Drives
=================================================================

Sony External CD-ROM   (2nd Inventory)    $406 + shipping
 - Access Time : <340ms
 - 150KB/sec transfer rate
 - 8K Buffer
 - Built-in Audio
 - Includes 16bit interface card and cable
 - Laser Library Menu
 - Laser Library Installation
 - Includes 7 CD-ROM software titles
 - 1 year Sony Warranty


Texel
 - Access Time : 265ms                       Internal $488 + shipping
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible         External $565 + shipping
 - SCSI-2 compliant
 - SCSI-2 Interface Adapter
 - 64KB Buffer
 - 330 KB/sec transfer
 - Dust-Proof construction
 - Self cleaning lens


Texel CD-ROM Home Bundle                     Internal $604 + shipping
 - Same CD-ROM drive as above                External $714 + shipping
 - Stereo Headphones
 - Amplified Audio Speakers
 - CD-ROM Software
     Software Toolworks Multimedia        National Parks
     Software Toolworks Game Pack 2       PC-SIG Library
     The San Diego Zoo's: The Animals     Music Sampler CD
     Nautilus Multimedia Family Guide     Music Audio Control Software
     MPC Wizard Test and Tune-Up CD


Texel CD-ROM Multimedia Bundle               Internal $890 + shipping
 - Same CD-ROM drive as above                External $1011 + shipping
 - Stereo Headphones
 - Deluxe Microphone
 - Media Vision 16-bit Soundboard
 - Amplified Audio Speakers
 - CD-ROM Software
     Compton's Encyclopedia               Autodesk Explorer
     Sierra's King's Quest V              Where in the World is
     The San Diego Zoo's: The Animals           Carmen Sandiego
     Software Toolworks Game Pack 2       PC-SIG Library
     Nautilus Multimedia Family Guide     National Parks
     Music Sampler CD                     Music Audio Control Software
     MPC Wizard Test and Tune-Up CD       World View Media Clips





 Future Business Consultants, Inc     Custom configurations are
 1749 West Golf Road    Suite 305     always available
 Mount Prospect, Illinois   60056
 [phone]  M-F 10am - 8pm    SAT 12n  - 4pm
 [phone]  FAX               >>> All times are CST <<<

  Quanities are limited.    Prices are subject to change         8/18/93
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From: JOSEPH FEDERKINS                       Number: 3851
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/19/93 12:06a
Subj: CD-ROMS #3                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD-ROM Software Bundles
=================================================================

Business Bundle               $43 + shipping
 - Software Vault 1 Shareware
 - Software Vault 2 Shareware
 - Prophone Business Edition

Reference Bundle              $65 + shipping
 - Reference Library
 - Family Doctor
 - Atlas Pack World/US

Game Bundle                   $50 + shipping
 - Total BaseBall
 - Mario is Missing
 - Deathstar for Arcade Battles

 **** All bundles require purchase of CD-ROM Drive ****
 **** See previous posts for prices and specifications ****


 Future Business Consultants, Inc     Custom configurations are
 1749 West Golf Road    Suite 305     always available
 Mount Prospect, Illinois   60056
 [phone]  M-F 10am - 8pm    SAT 12n  - 4pm
 [phone]  FAX               >>> All times are CST <<<

  Quanities are limited.    Prices are subject to change        8/18/93
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From: KEITH SHEEHAN                          Number: 3852
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/20/93 12:23p
Subj: 2 ROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

What edition ∩kis the Microsoft Bookshelf CD?

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3853
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 08/20/93  2:33p
Subj: ROM 4 SALE                              Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

>   > NC-17

Basically the replacement for "X" rating....


 * SLMR 2.1a * A mid-air hit can seriously erode climb performance!

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 3854
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  2:50p
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25                         Refer: NONE
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                  N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0
 ******************************************************************
 *********                                                *********
 ***********           $ 25.00 a Copy !!!               ***********
 *********                                                *********
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 *********               Ask for Barney                   *********
 ***********           ------------------               ***********
 *********               1-800-638-5757                   *********
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 *********           We Will NOT be out Sold              *********
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From: ARIENE CHANG                           Number: 3855
  To: PAT RILEY                                Date: 08/24/93 12:58a
Subj: Multimedia Items For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm interested in buying a cd-rom and I was wondering where or if I could reach
you for a possible purchase of a cd-rom.  In what currency are you selling your
cd-rom...Canadian?  Can you also tell me some more specifics about it thanks.


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From: MICHAEL TROXELL                        Number: 3856
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/23/93 10:38p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Blaine Richard to Steve Hecker <=-

 BR> In a message to Blaine Richard <08-18-93 00:02> Steve Hecker wrote:

 SH>   > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
 SH>   > From Original 35mm Slides
 SH>
 SH>          Blaine, pardon me for asking, but why would anyone pay for a
 SH>  disk filled with gifs of senior citizens ? :-)

 BR> Mr. Hecker, I don't know what YOU are looking for (teenage girls?),
 BR> but senior citizens, THE MODELS ARE NOT!  The models that appear in

Whoa... Lighten up.  Look closely at the first line of Steve's quote.
"675 Megs-Over 65 Models-".  Over 65.... Senior citizens... get it...

Sighhh.  Some people have no sense of humor. :-)

Mike

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From: KEN TULLY                              Number: 3857
  To: DON BRADEN                               Date: 08/24/93  9:29a
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DB> Mike, the disks arrived after our customs folks had decided on the tariff.
 DB>  I am having problems with My first time. My set up seems to comply with
 DB> the suggested one in the insert in the disk "jewel box" ie it has 2048 ram
 DB> and expanded memory etc. However, after the disk "


You need to have about 610k free of low memory for it to run.  You will need to
use a memory manager.  Also there is a bug fix available for the disk, which I
happen to have...  If you need help, after getting enough free memory, the give
me a hollar.


                                        Ken...

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From: KEN TULLY                              Number: 3858
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 08/24/93  9:32a
Subj: Busty Babes v1.0                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EP>  KT> I have Busty Babes First Edition for sale to
EP>  KT> the highest bidder.  It

EP> $15

 MK>     How about $15.25?

 Your getting closer...  Now move the DECIMAL point to the right a little and
we can talk.  There are not many V1.0 BB available, and I think even fewer
autographed by Lee and Blaine.  I have been offered $250 so far, so if anyone
is interested, I will be selling it off very soon.  You can reach me at
203-387-3174.


                                        Ken...

                                        KL Systems/Your CD Source

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From: SKIPPER NORTON                         Number: 3859
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/24/93  6:51p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ha, A CD-ROM disc for a $145 new motherboard, what the hell is on that
CD, do I have to be 18 to get it??

I figured...


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3860
  To: LARISSA KOHLER                           Date: 08/24/93  3:07a
Subj: Re: 6 Cdrom Changer                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    I run a BBS with 3 online cdroms, but I only have 1 cdrom
>>    drive.  I was wondering if anyone knew of a 6 cdrom drive
>>    changer that ran by software.  I've seen 'em where you have to
>>    flip 'em manually, but I'd like to find one my users can flip.

There are several door programs that will allow you to do just want you
need above, regarding a 6 disk changer.

As we market both versions of the Pioneer unit's, we have a lot of customers
doing the same thing.

If you need further help, please feel free to call us at 216-225-3263
anytime and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3861
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  3:07a
Subj: Limited Supply                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%  NEC'S 73's & 83's %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

        280ms access time - 150kps tarnsfer rate - Novell, OS/2
        and Windows Compatiable - Caddy System - Dasiy Chainable
        SCSI & SCSI 2 Support.   Refurbished - 90 day warranty

  Limited Supply - External Price - $249.  Internal Price - $225.
 Purchase any current Shareware CD for $15. additional with drive!

 ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 3862
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 08/23/93  5:40p
Subj: New Echo - Multimedia                   Refer: NONE
Read: 08/27/93  8:17p                       Private: No

-> This echo also can be ported to any other sister nets and RIME.

 TH> If you use the FIDOnet nodelist, you have to adhear to FIDOnet
 TH> policy - policy that prevents cross posting mail in multiple networks.
 TH> RIME has similar policy, too.

 TH> The nodelist can only be used to "participate in FIDOnet"... This is
 TH> clearly stated at the beginning of the nodelist.  If you use the
 TH> nodelist for any other purpose, you'll be violating Tom Jenning's
 TH> copyright.  You probably don't care, based on your past business
 TH> practices.

 TH> tim
 TH> moderator



Whats the NAME_FOR_IT?



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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 3863
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/23/93  5:41p
Subj: 7th Guest Only $39!                     Refer: NONE
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 MS>
 MS> *******************************************************
 MS> *****************
 MS>                           7TH GUEST IS HERE!!!
 MS>
 MS> *******************************************************
 MS> *****************

 MS>        PRICE:  $39!!        In stock, ready for immediate delivery.

 MS>  MINIMUM Requirements:  2 Megs RAM * 386DX CPU * 16 bit SVGA video card
 MS>  with at least 512K RAM * CD-ROM Drive w/ 150K per
 MS> second minimum transfer
 MS>  rate * Sound card w/ FM and PCM sound * Mouse * Hard
 MS> drive w/ 10 Megs free
 MS>  MSCDEX 2.2 or higher * DOS 5.0

 MS>  RECOMMENDED Hardware:  486sx 20mhz or faster CPU * 4 Megs RAM * Fast
 MS>  16 bit SVGA video card w/ 1 Meg RAM or local bus video * CD-ROM drive w/
 MS>  300k per second transfer rate and less than 300 ms access time * Roland
 MS>  LAPC-1, MT-32, or Sound Canvas and 16 bit PCM Sound Card

 MS>  ------------------------------------------------------
 MS> --------------------
 MS>        "This is the new standard in multimedia entertainment.  This
 MS>         is the future."       - Bill Gates, Chairman Microsoft Corp.
 MS>  ------------------------------------------------------

        Sorry.. but I have to add this:

                KINGS QUEST VI  (CD ROM VERSION)

                "Proof that the era of CD gaming is upon us"
                                        Peter Spear, QuestBusters

                "The Magic Is back and Sierra HAS another definite winner.
                In Kings Quest VI, Sierra UPS the Technology another notch."
                                                -PC Magazine

                "Bigger and Bolder, this is THE Adventure few can Resist."
                                                -Compute

                "The music and animation are EXCEPTIONAL, as is the story.
                 Hats off to Sierra for another sparkling gem."
                                                -Dragon

                "It is easy to see why Kings Quest is the best selling
                game series OF ALL TIME"
                                                -Computer Game Review

                "Kings Quest VI is not just EXELENT, its a LANDMARK
                GAME."
                                                -QuestBusters


                "A stunning -50 Meggabyte- animated introduction,
                created by KRONOS, The special effects masters who
                who brought you BATMAN RETURNS and LAWNMOWER MAN."

                "1024 by 480 SVGA and XGA 65,000,000 COLOR, PATENTED
                LIP-SYNCHING TECNOLOGY characters."




                        Just to add.. the price for this is
                        APPROX 70.00.

                I recomend that you team up with Sierra and get this
                on your price list.  maybe even at discounted prices..
                this game is well... FAR Beyond 7th Guest.. even though
                I would recomend it..  anyways... see if you can get
                KINGS QUEST VI CD ROM VER.  It'll sell SO fast.. I'll
                PROMISE you that..


                        Chris Johnson




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From: YVES DESJARDINS                        Number: 3864
  To: MARK GRYN                                Date: 08/24/93  5:59p
Subj: CD for trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mark!

23 Aug 93 10:54, Mark Gryn wrote to Yves Desjardins:


 >>  MM> I am interested in the Microprose Mantis and Civilization game..

Sorry it has been traded.....

Yves

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From: MANESH RAMA                            Number: 3865
  To: MIKE RICHARDSON                          Date: 08/23/93 11:28a
Subj: Cd-software                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hey mike i was wondering about the phonix cd.
what is it exactly?
and see if we did exchange then how would we do it?
thanx
later

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From: ERIC MIYAZAWA                          Number: 3866
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  8:11p
Subj: Microsoft cd-rom for sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

@SUBJECT:MICROSOFT CD-ROM FOR SALE!                                  N I have
the new Microsoft Word for Windows, Bookshelf, Video, and Sound on CD-ROM for
sale!      ~~~~              ~~~~~~~~~  ~~~~~      ~~~~~
        This multimedia edition CD-ROM incorporates all of these Microsoft
packages into one CD-ROM!  Brand new, sealed in package, never opened, with
registration card of course.  $275 or best offer!!!
        (I bought it in advance, believing that I would buy a CD-ROM drive,
but decided against it since I couldn't justify the expense.  So, unless
someone can find a really cheap [how much can they be purchased for?]
doublespin NEC Intersect [internal], this CD-ROM will have to go)

        On a lesser note, I have four 256k 80ns NEC SIMMs for sale.  $35 obo.
I know they aren't all that useful nowdays, but if you can find good use for
them, they are for sale.  They are exactly one year old.

        Please reply to me here!


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From: DAVID HEYDRICK                         Number: 3867
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93 10:37a
Subj: Gay Roms??                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    Does anyone have any Gay type CD's?

    Or a CD that has Adult text files,
    perfer gay or BI.

... First Hillary, then Jennifer... now US!
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From: RYAN DENKE                             Number: 3868
  To: MARK GUTT                                Date: 08/23/93  9:22p
Subj: Busty Babes 1.0                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <17 Aug 93  18:26:08>, Mark Gutt (1:139/695) writes:
 >I have a copy of the "BUSTY BABES" Volume 1, Release 1.0
 >thats in excellent condition (used 3 or 4 times) that I
 >would like to sell. If you are interested, leave your
 >name,an offer, and how you can be reached.
It is $23 for the new version, so I offer $16 shipped. I can be reached
here(best choice) or net mail to 303/5.


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From: DALE BROEMER                           Number: 3869
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/24/93  7:11p
Subj: HITACHI DRIVE FOR SALE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Hi!  I'll like to offer a 1meg OAK VGA card and $50.00 for that drive.
I really want to get into the CD thing, but my budget is hurt'n if you
know what I mean.

  Call me at [phone], Or leave Net-Mail.




  D. Broemer


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From: DALE BROEMER                           Number: 3870
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/24/93  7:11p
Subj: Hitatchi rom drive                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  That would'nt be one of those drives you were having problems with,
would it??




  D. Broemer


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From: JIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 3871
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 08/24/93 11:18a
Subj: Related ?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Related ?

Jim Schooler
1:102/910

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 3872
  To: JIM NEUMILLER                            Date: 08/24/93  7:22a
Subj: Re: DAK CD-ROM SUPPORT                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

THE NUMBER FOR TECH SUPPORT IS 1-800-888-9818 I HAVE THE BSR 6800 MX IF YOU
HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 3873
  To: VIKKI CLAYTON                            Date: 08/23/93  3:49p
Subj: GRANDMA AND ME                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (22 Aug 93) Vikki Clayton wrote to Rita Laws...

 VC>  > Hi. If your other buyer drops out in a few weeks, please
 VC>  > leave me a note. I am interested in CD programs for
 VC>  > children, new and used. Have a nice day.
 VC>
 VC> Have Interactive Storytime Volumes one and two for $20 each.
 VC>
 VC> Vikki
 VC>
 VC> --- GEcho 1.00
 VC>  * Origin: From the Heart of Byron, NY (1:2613/482)
 VC> 209/209
 VC> 19 30 43
        I am a grandfather looking for children cd's for a 2
        year old. do you know where I can obtain a listing
        of what is in most children's CD's, including age that
        they material is considered to bo of use.
        Would be interested in your two CD's if I knew more of
        what they included.
        Thanks in advance

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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 3874
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  9:12p
Subj: Shareware Explorer!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: [phone]
        $69.00         International 314-521-4862     $69.00
                     Shareware Explorer 4 Disk Set!

Have you been looking for an alternative to Shareware Extravaganza???
The NEW Shareware Explorer Quad pack is just the ticket.   26,000 files
make this the finest collection available for the serious SYSOP or
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Postscript, & Truetype; A select few Icons and wallpaper bitmaps;
Source/tools for Actor, C, C++ Basic Pascal, TPW & others.  Completely
BBS ready with multiline file descriptions.   Over 600 megs of Windows
files!  Less then 1% duplication of versions, or same programs across
all 4 volumes!  Easy to use Access program allows even a novice to
quickly and easily search for topics of interst and copy or unarchive
them to a hard disk for further use!

                         Don't miss this one folks!

*********************************************************************
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From: DAVID BURKE                            Number: 3875
  To: CHARLEY WEBB                             Date: 08/25/93 12:46a
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> DH>KP>  ********           $ 25.00 a Copy !!!               *****
-> DH>KP>  ******               Ask for Barney                   ***
-> DH>KP>  ******               1-800-638-5757                   ***
-> DH>KP>  ******           We Will NOT be out Sold              ***

-> Thats odd, I paid $15.00 for a new Night Owl #9 cd.

   Hehehe at this rate we should get our free copy sometime in Oct.

                                                     -=- Dave


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From: SCOTT NIKONT                           Number: 3876
  To: JAMES PUNG                               Date: 08/25/93  1:22a
Subj: Re: For sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 22 Aug 93 10:17pm, James Pung wrote to All:

 JP>         *****  FOR SALE *******

 JP>  (8) 1megx9 Simms 70 ns          $35 ea. obo

How about $125 for 4 of them, and you send them to me COD +
shipping?  Let me know here, or NetMail at 14/615.

If this deal is a go, would you please go ahead and send before I
get your answer.  Thanks, Scott.

Scott Nikont                      I can be reached by contacting:
PO Box 487  309 Cheyenne Ave      The Panhandle Connection BBS
Hemingford NE 69348               [phone]  FidoNet 1:14/615


... I LOVE spotted owls!!  They taste like chicken!!!
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From: DAVID HARRISON                         Number: 3877
  To: CHARLEY WEBB                             Date: 08/24/93  7:28p
Subj: Re: Night Owl 9 $25                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CW> DH >KP>  ******************************************************************
CW> DH >KP>  *********                                                *********
CW> DH >KP>  ***********           $ 25.00 a Copy !!!               ***********
CW> DH >KP>  *********                                                *********
CW> DH >KP>  ***********                                            ***********
CW> DH >KP>  *********               Ask for Barney                   *********
CW> DH >KP>  ***********           ------------------               ***********
CW> DH >KP>  *********               1-800-638-5757                   *********
CW> DH >KP>  ***********                                            ***********
CW> DH >KP>  *********           We Will NOT be out Sold              *********
CW> DH >KP>  ***********                                            ***********
CW> DH >KP>  ******************************************************************
CW>
CW> Thats odd, I paid $15.00 for a new Night Owl #9 cd.
I dont know why you sent that message to me... I didnt post that...

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From: JOHN WALDEN                            Number: 3878
  To: LADY JANE                                Date: 08/24/93  7:10p
Subj: 82% Match                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I've been playing with the matchmaker data base and I thought I'd let you know
that it says we're an 82% match.  Perhaps we should write to each other to get
to know each other better.  Hope to hear from you soon!


John

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From: JERRY WEGER                            Number: 3879
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  6:03p
Subj: Mitsumi & sound card                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Recently bought the Mitsumi drive and am having a good time. I don't
have a sound board and have heard alot about conflicts with this drive
and soundcards. I need advice. Is ther a relatively inexpensive sound
card that is compatable?  have heard of on card, I believe it is a
Galaxy something or other, that has the capability of taking the place
of the Mitsumi interface card. Suggestions or advice would be
appreciated. Also prices if possible. MANY THANKS


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From: JERRY MICKISH                          Number: 3880
  To: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                         Date: 08/25/93  1:08a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Yes, my CDR-35 is a complete package. All original NEC manuals, driver disks,
registration cards, and SCSI interface card.


If interested, please reply here.


Thanks, Jerry



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From: JERRY MICKISH                          Number: 3881
  To: PIERRE DU PREEZ                          Date: 08/25/93  1:15a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for your offer to purchase my NEC CD-ROM. If you are still interested,
you can send the money to me at the following address:

905 2nd Ave. SE
Barnesville, MN 56514-3744.

Please e-mail me if you are still interested.


Thanks,   Jerry



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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 3882
  To: JERRY WEGER                              Date: 08/25/93  8:50a
Subj: Mitsumi & sound card                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sterio cd and the new Sterio FX/CD made by ATI
and sells for 99 & 149 , in the computer shopper.
Sept, 93.  Also check Aug.93 for a report on this. Tnx.


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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 3883
  To: TONY DAVIS                               Date: 08/20/93 12:30a
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TD> >Let us in on your situation . . . what are the details???  In what
TD> >state do you live?

TD>Oklahoma. The BBS had 16 CD Roms, 4 of which were 'adult'. They were FAO 3,
TD>Storm 2 & 3, and Busty Babes.  According to the officers that arrested me,
TD>anything that shows 'penatration' is obscene by State statute.

I have never been to Oklahoma (and have no plans to visit anytime soon),
but are there any porno store in OK?  What about adult magazines?


 * OLX 2.1 TD * Any damn fool can predict the past.


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From: TYLER MIELNICHUK                       Number: 3884
  To: GREG MANTER                              Date: 08/24/93 11:49a
Subj: CD-ROM                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Greg,
I don't have a SB-Pro so i'd probably have to buy one.. would you be interested
in selling yours or perphaps trading me my THUNDER BOARD (SB, Adlib, MIDI
compatible.) plus a little cash also? If not i'm very interested in the cd-rom
and disks. What disks are there? What's the access time on the drive? Thanks
for the reply! later.
By the way my phone # is (604)-468-9717 (vancouver island)
bye now!


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 3885
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/24/93  6:35a
Subj: Thanks                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mike!

Thanks for the order bonehead.  (Actually, I'm having problems with my mail
getting out, and picked you to test with).  ;-)

Later,

Dave.


... Lawyers and hookers:  Both hired to get their clients off.

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From: DAN CONLEY                             Number: 3886
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93 12:23a
Subj: Credit Card Charges                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I thought I'd let everyboby know that credit card surcharges are
illegal. I purchased a complete system from a VERY WELL KNOWN company
and on my invoice they had a charge for the purchase being on a cerdit
card.  I called Mastercard and told them about it. They called the
supplier and told them to stop charging extra for credit card use or
they would pull their Mastercard authorization from them. I then
promptly got a apology letter and a check for $50. If this happens to
you, call your credit card company and complain!!!


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 3887
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/24/93 10:36p
Subj: RED HOT SPECIALS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Boris!

Monday August 23 1993, Boris Osadciw writes to All:

 BO> $$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$

You're a veteran, aren't you?  I bet every time you walk past the
refridgerator, all the magnets fly off and attach to your head.  ;-)

P.S. I'm a veteran, too, so I can say this.  ;-)


... If Clinton didn't inhale, why is he brain-dead?

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 3888
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/24/93 10:44p
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Blaine!

Monday August 23 1993, Blaine Richard writes to Chris Christensen:

 BR> I thought Mr. Hecker had also misquoted my message. I just went
 BR> back to double check whether it was possible that Mr. Hecker
 BR> had not misquoted my message and discovered that he had not.



... Grow your own dope:  Plant Blaine Richard

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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 3889
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93 10:08p
Subj: GREAT CHEAP CD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Would like to recommend a cheap cd IF you run windows and have a Best Buy
store near you.  This week ROMaterial is on sale for 9.97.

It is by the people who make ICONHearit and ICONseeit. In fact it
contains the entire iconhearit program plus others.

It has hundreds of sounds that you can attach to any windows event. A
couple dozen screen savers and about 50 full motion video screen savers.

Also included are 500 regular icons and about a hundred animated icons.

A bunches of walpaper are included in 16, 256 and 24k colors.

This is the most fun you can have for under 10 bucks.

Sorry don't know what the regular price is or anywhere else you can buy
it.

James
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From: DAVID ROBERTS                          Number: 3890
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/23/93  7:25p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes 1.0                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


 LN>No problem, Jim...the label film on the disc says, "Graphic Software"
 >--Dealers now have bids for $350.00 per each 1.0 disc--
 >Versions 2.0 and 3.0 do not have these large font words on the disc film
 >--If you have one of these, hold onto it--

I read this message you had left Lee and am just wondering why is this disk
so valuable, I paid $25 for it 6 months ago.

... "With the lights out, it's less dang'rous"
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From: RON BRIDGEMON                          Number: 3891
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/23/93 10:32p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No





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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 3892
  To: EVERYBODY                                Date: 08/23/93  8:21p
Subj: -=- The Storage Specialists -=-         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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-=-
-=- TOSHIBA XM-3401
-=- Internal            200MS     505.00 -=-
-=- External            200MS     605.00 -=-
-=-
-=- TEAC CD-50
-=- Internal            270MS     405.00 -=-
-=- External            270MS     490.00 -=-
-=-
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-=- Internal            350MS     189.00 -=-
-=-
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-=- 1.800.224.5150
-=-
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-=- 1.303.940.1012
-=-
-=- TERMS: We accept Visa/MasterCard (no service charge), Money Orders,
-=- Personal and Company Checks, C.O.D.
-=-
-=- SHIPPING: We offer same day shipping on orders placed by 3pm MST,
-=- provided we have stock. Shipping and Handling not included in prices
-=- mentioned above.
-=-
-=- We also carry a HUGE selection of Hard Drives and Storage Devices!
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From: ARIENE CHANG                           Number: 3893
  To: PAT RILEY                                Date: 08/24/93 12:58a
Subj: Multimedia Items For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm interested in buying a cd-rom and I was wondering where or if I could reach
you for a possible purchase of a cd-rom.  In what currency are you selling
your
cd-rom...Canadian?  Can you also tell me some more specifics about it thanks.


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From: MICHAEL TROXELL                        Number: 3894
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/23/93 10:38p
Subj: Re: New Cd Southern Beauties            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Blaine Richard to Steve Hecker <=-

 BR> In a message to Blaine Richard <08-18-93 00:02> Steve Hecker wrote:

 SH>   > 675 Megs-OVER 65 Models-1000 GIFs 1024x768x256
 SH>   > From Original 35mm Slides
 SH>
 SH>          Blaine, pardon me for asking, but why would anyone pay for a
 SH>  disk filled with gifs of senior citizens ? :-)

 BR> Mr. Hecker, I don't know what YOU are looking for (teenage girls?),
 BR> but senior citizens, THE MODELS ARE NOT!  The models that appear in

Whoa... Lighten up.  Look closely at the first line of Steve's quote.
"675 Megs-Over 65 Models-".  Over 65.... Senior citizens... get it...

Sighhh.  Some people have no sense of humor. :-)

Mike

... Air Geordis: Next Generation footwear!
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From: KEN TULLY                              Number: 3895
  To: DON BRADEN                               Date: 08/24/93  9:29a
Subj: My Order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DB> Mike, the disks arrived after our customs folks had decided on the tariff.
 DB>  I am having problems with My first time. My set up seems to comply with
 DB> the suggested one in the insert in the disk "jewel box" ie it has 2048
ram
 DB> and expanded memory etc. However, after the disk "


You need to have about 610k free of low memory for it to run.  You will need
to
use a memory manager.  Also there is a bug fix available for the disk, which I

happen to have...  If you need help, after getting enough free memory, the
give
me a hollar.


                                        Ken...

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From: KEN TULLY                              Number: 3896
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 08/24/93  9:32a
Subj: Busty Babes V1.0                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EP>  KT> I have Busty Babes First Edition for sale to
EP>  KT> the highest bidder.  It

EP> $15

 MK>     How about $15.25?

 Your getting closer...  Now move the DECIMAL point to the right a little and
we can talk.  There are not many V1.0 BB available, and I think even fewer
autographed by Lee and Blaine.  I have been offered $250 so far, so if anyone
is interested, I will be selling it off very soon.  You can reach me at
203-387-3174.


                                        Ken...

                                        KL Systems/Your CD Source

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From: BRIAN DHATT                            Number: 3897
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/23/93  4:34p
Subj: Cdrom Systems                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sunday August 22 1993 01:40, Boris Osadciw wrote to Ed Kellermann:

 BO> Ed, the DMR600 is a 600ms drive with a 150kps transfer rate. While the
 BO> DMR604X is a 300ms drive with a 600kps transfer rate. Other than that
 BO> both units offer the same features.

Don't forget that the DMR604x offers Multi-Session Photo-CD support and XA
disc
support.

Brian

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From: YVES DESJARDINS                        Number: 3898
  To: MARK GRYN                                Date: 08/24/93  5:59p
Subj: Cd For Trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mark!

23 Aug 93 10:54, Mark Gryn wrote to Yves Desjardins:


 >>  MM> I am interested in the Microprose Mantis and Civilization game..

Sorry it has been traded.....

Yves

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From: MANESH RAMA                            Number: 3899
  To: MIKE RICHARDSON                          Date: 08/23/93 11:28a
Subj: Cd-software                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hey mike i was wondering about the phonix cd.
what is it exactly?
and see if we did exchange then how would we do it?
thanx
later

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From: TERRY BLOUNT                           Number: 3900
  To: JAMES PORTER                             Date: 08/24/93  9:56a
Subj: $99 Cd Rom Drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JP> Terry, did you get my messages of 2 weeks ago?  1) i was trying to find
 JP> out if you ever got any of the Hitachi 3600's in and secondly to see how
 JP> many of the 3500's you had left.


Sorry they are all gone.  If you send me your voice phone number I'll call you

if I get more.


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From: TIGER MOSES                            Number: 3901
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 08/25/93  8:41a
Subj: Cd\upload probs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

This actually could be quite simple.
When preparing for an upload, you software needs to know a source of files, it
probably checks what all drives are available as sources of files.  When you
load your drivers for thge CD it becomes a drive (mine is J:) for example.
This status check probably stop the reading (playing music).  It probably that
simple, hopefully!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3902
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/25/93  8:23a
Subj: Re:  NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Blaine Richard to Bob Jackson <=-
 BR> I am anxious to read what you think about "Southern Beauties"
 BR> after you have had a chance to see it. Thanks for your message
 BR> explaining what Mr. Hecker may have meant. Again, I wrongly
 BR> thought that Mr. Hecker was trashing the disc and APOLOGIZE!

Blaine:

Thank you for such a complete reply.  Indeed, having the word "TOP"
would have removed the opportunity for misunderstandings, deliberate or
not.  Many of us here on the echo are aware of the disagreements you and
Lee Noga have had.  Accordingly, it's understandable that you might be
sensitized towards comments about your CD offerings.  You have shown
integrity with respect to Mr. Heckers post, and I commend you for it.

I'm looking forward to reviewing "Southern Beauties" and hope to get
that opportunity soon.  I'm trying to work with Mike Shannon of
Starvector to speed up the process of reviewing new adult CDs somewhat.
Also, Lee Noga has promised to send copies of her new releases directly
to me - that will help a lot. If you'd care to, you could do the same.
My address is 1720 Bowline Road, Houston, TX  77062-4536.

... "He was a man, all and all, I shall not look upon his like again."
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3903
  To: JEFF PAZAHANICK                          Date: 08/25/93  8:57a
Subj: Re: CDROM SPECIALS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Jeff Pazahanick to BORIS OSADCIW <=-
 JP> ■ QMPro 1.0 40-1267 ■ All rising to a great place is by a winding
 JP> stair. -!- Synchronet

VERY mysterious tagline, Jeff. Can you give me a short explanation
before Tim scolds us?

... Docs? Why would I want to look at the Docs. Nurses are better :)
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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 3904
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/23/93  8:23a
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 08-16-93 Lee Noga wrote to Bob Jackson...

 LN> SHOWOFF is our baby now in this industry, and you will see
 LN>     her on our 2 disc's coming out in September--
Some details please ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^???

... OFFLINE 1.34

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From: JERRY MURPHY                           Number: 3905
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/24/93 11:34a
Subj: X movie review cd                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LN>In a message to Lee Noga <08-19-93 13:04> Joe Slifer wrote:

JS>> Would you list the cdroms FLD produces and any planned future
JS>> releases.-Thank

and you replied, in part:

LN>We have a busy Fall coming with some blockbusting discs

It's amazing how much more headway you can make when you stop dragging a sea
anchor around.  Carry on!

The various registration slips I've sent you have still not resulted in a
mailing back to me.  This is a "heads up" that another is underway.

*(>>>     :-)

  the Jerry Murphy in Lakewood, Ohio

 * DeLuxe2 1.21 #8814 * Murphy is out there somewhere ... just waiting ...


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From: MARK WALKER                            Number: 3906
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 08/24/93  4:04a
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message of <21 Aug 93  17:18:00>, Lee Noga (1:3618/23) writes:

 >a) Busty Babes Vol II Rel 1.0 (September Release)--Licensed collection
 >   of original slides with "Gorgeous Women"....1000 images. X and XXX
 >   images. Nothing amateur about this disc ! All professional
 >photography.
 >
 >b) Texas Glamour- All original scans as well....(Oct release) "X" rated.
 >   NO men--
 >
 >c) "Passion"--All original scans, XXX disc, (Nov release)--etc....
Are these all going to be BBS ready? If so, can ya speed up the release
schedule <grin>?

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From: SHADOW SMITH                           Number: 3907
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93 11:24p
Subj: CDROM_SALE                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MHS Addr: CDSALE

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 3908
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/25/93  8:32p
Subj: BB                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (22 Aug 93) Pat Rickerson wrote to Boris Osadciw...

 PR> Are you looking for Busty Babes #1 as I have one. I have a offer of
 PR> 275.00 but its not ferm yet.
 PR>     Give me a call if you are interested.
 PR>                  Pat
 PR>                      512-939-9822

  Your trying to sell to the GUY who started all of this in the first place.
  He had 50 new BB#1s and was selling them for $50.oo each.  I called right
  away but Boris wasn't available.  Got to speak with him the next day and
  was way too late.  He was down to his last 4 CDs and the price had
  already climbed to at least $250.oo  Had to settle for one of those cheap
  $25.oo CDs.  Guess I will never know what I missed, but since I never had
  it, I never lost anything.  BB#1/1.0 is now a Classic, boy Lee must
  really be happy about that.  Sorry but I just can't afford that much
  pleasure. <g>

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3909
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 08/25/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: New Echo - Multimedia               Refer: NONE
Read: 08/28/93  8:53p                       Private: No

> The nodelist can only be used to "participate in FIDOnet"... This is
> clearly stated at the beginning of the nodelist.  If you use the
> nodelist for any other purpose, you'll be violating Tom Jenning's
> copyright.  You probably don't care, based on your past business
> practices.
Dear Tim,
First of all moderator and business shouldn't be mixed to each other. If you
have any problem due to competition, please be mature enough to leave it out
FidoNet business.
 Secondly, you have no idea what you are talking about!..FidoNet echos can be
ported to any services by permission of the moderator. If you have any other
things to say, you can continue this via netmail.

Regards

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3910
  To: SCOTT MCKNIGHT                           Date: 08/25/93 10:47a
Subj: Re: New Echo - Multimedia               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>I have started a new echo area called MULTIMEDIA
> Are you looking for links to get backbone status?  I'll be interested if
> if you are.
Hi Scott,
There is enough interest to get it qualified for backbone status. BTW, vendors
are also welcome!..After echo will get going, I will give up the moderator
status to another individual who may have more time. TTYL

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3911
  To: MARK SMITH                               Date: 08/25/93 10:50a
Subj: Re: New Echo - Multimedia               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Can you send it to my Boss Node for me...??? Bob Brisco is his name!
> BTW did you get my Netmail...????
> Mark Smith
Hi Mark,
Can you please tell him to drop a net mail to me regardnig to this matter. TTYL

-= IA =-

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 3912
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/25/93 10:51a
Subj: Review                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> 78.3%, and 65.8%, respectively.  That is to say, of all the files
> on each of these CDs, those percentages of file names on those CDs
> are not duplicated anywhere else in my database.
Hi Bob,
There is a disk on the way to you for your review!..(As I have promised
before). I think you will like it. TTYL

GroupWare

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From: MARLINA MALONEY                        Number: 3913
  To: 1:124/1019.1912                          Date: 08/25/93 12:50p
Subj: Wht ya doin?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 * Originally by Marlina Maloney, 1:260/128@FidoNet
 * Originally to midnight cruiser, 1:124/1019.1912
 * Originally dated 25 Aug 1993, 12:48

(57)    21 Aug 93  17:04:00
By: Marlina Maloney
To: Anish Acharya
Re: Remote Access 2.00
St:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 >        Hello!  Just thought I'd point out that Remote-Access 2.00
 >        has internal support for drive switching.  Right now, RA 2.00
 >        is gamma (only available to Registered Users).  But I think
 >        the final release will be out before X-Mas.  Just though I'd
 >        let you know!!

The full blown non-gama release just popped into the RAFDN two days ago and is
now floating around the boards. Just thought I would let "you" know. Made it
well before x-mas.

*** GEcho 1.00

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3914
  To: PAUL DIESTELHORST                        Date: 08/25/93 11:49a
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > * In a message originally to Mike Shannon, Tony Davis
 > said:


 >> >life on the edge. I'll take ALL THE BUSTY'S I CAN GET MY HANDS ON!

 > Hey, where can I get a copy of Busty Babes and how
 > much?

 >                                             Paul

This mwssage is to anyone who is interested in buying Busty Babes #1, I have
one left and will sell it asp. Give me a call. Pat 512-939-9822

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3915
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/24/93 11:24p
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUEAUT                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>than 65 different models. I haven't seen SB yet (waiting for Mike
BJ>Shannon to send me a evaluation copy), but I'm familiar with some of the
BJ>names you mentioned. They are indeed quite attractive. (:>>

Didn't know you wanted one Bob!  I'll get an eval copy off to you tomorrow.
Maybe you can determine why it has FILES.BBS files when it's not
supposed to be used on BBS's.  8)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3916
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93 11:24p
Subj: NEW CATALOG AVAILABLE!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

***************************************************************************
   FREQ OR DOWNLOAD STARVECTOR'S CURRENT CATALOG W/ 300+ CD-ROM TITLES!
***************************************************************************

 To all CD users who would like to receive Starvector's catalog of the 300+
 CD-ROM titles that we stock, you may either download our catalog file from
 our BBS, or Freq (file request) it.

 BBS:   509-457-0206 - Download STARCAT.ZIP from <F>ile menu. (1st call)
 FREQ:  1:3407/101 - File request STARCAT.ZIP

 Our new BBS now has an online order door with all our current titles and
 new lower prices!  All callers may d/l our catalog and/or place an order
 on the first call!

 Please feel free to call our BBS at 509-457-0206.  The system is using a
 U.S.R. Sportster 14.4, so you should have no problem logging on at any
 speed between 300bps and 14,400bps.

 While online, you may want to download one or more of the CD-ROM file
 listings that are available also.

 The Starvector BBS is online, and waiting to serve you!  Look for
 continuous updates and improvements in the near future, with more CD
 file listings, new online doors, and more!

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3917
  To: CARLOS BENITZ                            Date: 08/24/93 11:24p
Subj: Brand New Adult Cd'S!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CB>was computer art suggests that it's some kind of computer art
CB>magazine, but the above suggests that it's an adult magazine.  Is
CB>it a magazine at all?  Are these two different Vivids?

I believe so.  As far as I know, Vivid Digital only produces adult
oriented still and motion-picture CD's, but I could be mistaken.  Lee
would probably be the one to ask.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3918
  To: CHIP MORROW                              Date: 08/24/93 11:24p
Subj: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CM>I have the same question someone else recently asked...

No video included on this one.  Also a downsized manual.  Everything
fits into a standard jewel case now.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3919
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93 11:24p
Subj: 29,000+ ADULT GIFS!!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                     SEEDY ROM 6-PAK: $149 + $4 S/H.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

These famous adult CD sets are now available again. For a time they were hard
    to find, but Starvector has several sets in stock ready for immediate
 delivery at only $149 + $4 shipping. That's only $24.83 per CD, and each is
    packed with top-quality GIF pix with GIF's and FLI/GL animation on #6.

      >>> NO DUPLICATION BETWEEN CD'S!   OVER 29,000 GIF's IN ALL! <<<

                           >>> BBS-READY <<<

  Find a better advertised price?  Call us and we'll BEAT it!  No hassles.

   BONUS:  Seedy #7 (Seventh Heaven) available separately for only $31,
   or $24 if purchased with 6-Pak.

                          (Must state age 21+)

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: ANDREW SETO                            Number: 3920
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  9:14a
Subj: Mitsumi Cd-Rom For Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    I'm selling a Mitsumi Cd-Rom LU00S which has a access time of 350 ms
and a data transfer rate of 150 Kb sustained. I'm selling it for $175
and I'll pay for shipping. E-mail me if interested.

Andrew Seto


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 3921
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/24/93  5:35a
Subj: Busty babes trade sought.               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TC>     20th Century Video Almanac
TC>       ( Excellent Disk! )

TC>     The San Diego Zoo Presents... The Animals!
TC>       ( True Multimedia!  MUST have Windows 3.x and a
TC>         video card capible of running Windows in 256
TC>         color mode to operate this incredible Disk )


        $22.90 including shipping is offered for the above two disks.
 ■ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 ■ Entropy isn't what it used to be!!!!


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From: ANISH ACHARYA                          Number: 3922
  To: MARLINA MALONEY                          Date: 08/25/93  7:53a
Subj: Remote Access 2.00                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Marlina,

       I appreciate you informing me but I have been up and running it for
       severel days now.  Thanks anyways!!

       Regards,

       Anish Acharya

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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 3923
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 08/24/93  9:15a
Subj: CD+G                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Hello Vito! (Hope I spelled your name right<grin>)
->  I received the M.O. and mailed your CD+G's out the same day.I sent t
-> class,as you did not send enough P&H for 1st(Priority was $3.90)but i
-> get there fairly soon.
->
-> Enjoy!!
->
->                            Diana
->
-> --- FX-BBS V3.41ß[386]r
->  * Origin: -=BerthaBoard=- Manteca, Ca. [phone]/239-9853 (1:20
->
 Thanks


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From: TONY MILES                             Number: 3924
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/25/93  1:30p
Subj: Busty Babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PR>What's up I thought this CD was selling like hot cakes? I sill have one and
  >would like to sell it. So anyone that is interested give me a call at
  >512-939-9822 before the price of this CD goes up to high to buy!
  >         Also will trade for CD player, CD's, tape backup, or mother board
(
  >lest a 40dx). Also in need of some simms. Call and lets make a deal!
  >                                  Pat

Are you interested in Windows 3.0 with multimedia CD or Smutware CD?

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From: WILLIAM DUPREE                         Number: 3925
  To: J. ALLEN                                 Date: 08/25/93  5:31p
Subj: Forsale used cd-rom disks               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  <<<18.00   Birds of America        Birds of America - Multimedia I'll offer
10 shipped prepaid 9198706030 or reply here with address
===
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From: DAVID BURKE                            Number: 3926
  To: JOHN WALDEN                              Date: 08/25/93 11:23p
Subj: 82% Match                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I've been playing with the matchmaker data base
-> and I thought I'd let you know that it says we're
-> an 82% match.

 I bet you don't want to hear this, but this is an Internationl Echo
and about 16,000 (more or less) systems read this };-)

                                                  -=- Dave


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From: ART BREAULT                            Number: 3927
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/25/93  6:20a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi for sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I recieved my software with my drive. I belive if you purchased it new
you should have also.


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From: ROBERT PICARD                          Number: 3928
  To: DEALERS                                  Date: 08/25/93  6:16p
Subj: Looking for some CDs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi everyone, I want to buy the following CDs

Simtel 93  ( X 2 )
CD PowerBox
Software Vault Collection 2
Our Solar System
Shareware Studio Volume III
Night Owl 9.0
Monster Media 93

And maybe some others...

Must be shipped in Canada, and have the lowest prices around :-)
Feel free to send me your catalog at the adress below.

Also looking for good deals on Panasonic 562B/563 CD-ROM models. Please write
to me if you can be of some help.

-Robert

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3929
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 08/24/93  5:12p
Subj: NEW ECHO - MULTIMEDIA                   Refer: NONE
Read: 08/28/93  8:59p                       Private: No

>-> This echo also can be ported to any other sister nets and RIME.

>If you use the FIDOnet nodelist, you have to adhear to FIDOnet policy - policy
>that prevents cross posting mail in multiple networks.

There is NO SUCH POLICY.

 I don't know if you were around that far back, but some of us REMEMBER the
stink when FidoNet tried to take control of HDCONF and HDSALE from their
FOUNDING Moderator (Randy Van De Loo) - and the result that BOTH confrences
became (and REMAIN to this day) AlterNet confrences, permitted to be ported
INTO FidoNet by the moderator(s).

Then there are the many echos that are ported into UseNet - and the UseNet
newsgroup that consists of FidoNews.


The moderator of any particular echo has the right to say "no porting into any
other network" if they so choose - but such a restriction IS NOT and NEVER HAS
BEEN part of Policy.

By the way - SEVERAL of the so-called RIME confrences are ported over FROM
Smartnet (Rex Hankins of the RIME Steering Committee is a personal aquaintance
and local BBS Sysop)....


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3930
  To: LOUIS SOKOL                              Date: 08/24/93  5:15p
Subj: CDROM BBS DOOR!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>RL>        o       it will work with ANY BBS software (not just MAXIMUS)  RL>
>that                is capable of writing a long-style (52 line)  RL> DOOR.SYS
>              drop-file, e.g., WILDCAT, PCB, GAP, etc.  If  RL> your system
RL>
>               can't write a long-style DOOR.SYS, then you may still RL>
>        use this software via a door conversion program that RL>
>makes long-style DOOR.SYS files.

>Will this software work wit TBBS or TDBS?

Single-line only - and is not NEEDED in any case....


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From: DALE BROEMER                           Number: 3931
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/25/93  1:23p
Subj: HITACHI DRIVE FOR SALE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Hi!  I'll like to offer a 1meg OAK VGA card and $50.00 for that drive.
I really want to get into the CD thing, but my budget is hurt'n if you
know what I mean.

  Call me at [phone], Or leave Net-Mail.




  D. Broemer


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From: DALE BROEMER                           Number: 3932
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/25/93  1:23p
Subj: Hitatchi rom drive                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  That would'nt be one of those drives you were having problems with,
would it??




  D. Broemer


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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 3933
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/25/93  8:17p
Subj: CD-ROM MASTER LIST 1/2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi there Mike,  how about being a cool guy and selling me 7th Guest for $39?

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 3934
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/25/93 10:49p
Subj: The 7th Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi everyone,  do you guys know the game call the 7th Guest for CD-ROM,  who
could sell it to me for ohh,  about $39 or less,  I pay shipping,  preferabaly
knew (please forgive my spelling).  Thank you.

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3935
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/26/93  2:18a
Subj: Re: BB                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Are you looking for Busty Babes #1 as I have one. I have a
>>    offer of 275.00 but its not ferm yet.
>>        Give me a call if you are interested.
>>                     Pat
>>                         512-939-9822

Nope, I have two copies on hand and I have no intentions on selling them.

I'am sure you'll get a lot more for it as soon as the information on BB
is printed in a number of magazines.

Good Luck.....

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3936
  To: JEFF PAZAHANICK                          Date: 08/26/93  2:18a
Subj: Re: CDROM SPECIALS                      Refer: NONE
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BO>> *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
  >>Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
  >>Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
  >>Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
  >>Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
  >>Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
  >>Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
  >>Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.

>>    Is the NEC36 the only SCSI?

Nope, all of the above drives, except for the Mitsumi are SCSI units. We
also carry a number of other drives as well, so if your interested, please
call us at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 3937
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  2:18a
Subj: Busty Special                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

)))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.

                      PRICE - $25.00

To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((



Boris Osadciw

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From: JOE HAYES                              Number: 3938
  To: JACK HUDDLE                              Date: 08/22/93  1:35p
Subj: SBpro for sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JH> I recently purchased a Labtec CD-Rom upgrade kit and I find I have a
JH> brand new Sound Blaster Pro  forsale inthe box unused forsale. I will
JH> let it go for 100.00 plus $5.00 shipping first class (US only) plus
JH> willthrow in Lemmings at no additional charge with unused manual and
JH> outputcable that came with the SBPRO....

Hello Jack,
I will make you an offer of $60.00 plus shipping for the soundblaster pro..

-Joe
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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 3939
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/23/93  1:02a
Subj: PROPHONE CD'S                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CS>1993 Prophone 7 cd set- includes residential and business listings fo
AJ> I'll give you $70 for it.  How do I get a hold of you?

Already sold for $85, but thanks for the offer.

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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 3940
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/23/93  1:02a
Subj: Prophone cd's                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL> I'll offer $70 plus postage ($2.90 Priority Mail).
JL> [phone]

Already sold for $85, but thanks for the offer.

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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 3941
  To: MICHAEL DAVIS                            Date: 08/23/93  1:02a
Subj: RE: Prophone cd's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MD> Subj: Prophone cd's             Date: 08-08-93  Time: 23:18
MD> Would you accept $40 +shipping and COD for this CD-ROM set?

No I wouldn't have, and they already sold for $85.

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From: CHRIS SNYDER                           Number: 3942
  To: JEFF ALLEN                               Date: 08/23/93  1:02a
Subj: Prophone                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

By: J. Allen, Node 2201/13 (1:2201/13)
To: Chris Snyder
I'll accept an $85.00 C.O.D for this disk ($80.00 for the disk + $3.00
shipping + 2.00 UPS shipping charge).
Let me know if this is OK, or maybe I might have a CD disk you might wan


This is fine, send me your address I'll mail it ASAP.

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From: JIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 3943
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 08/24/93 11:18a
Subj: Related ?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Related ?

Jim Schooler
1:102/910

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 3944
  To: JIM NEUMILLER                            Date: 08/24/93  7:22a
Subj: Re: Dak Cd-rom Support                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

THE NUMBER FOR TECH SUPPORT IS 1-800-888-9818 I HAVE THE BSR 6800 MX IF YOU
HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

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From: JIM HILGEFORD                          Number: 3945
  To: VIKKI CLAYTON                            Date: 08/23/93  3:49p
Subj: Grandma And Me                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (22 Aug 93) Vikki Clayton wrote to Rita Laws...

 VC>  > Hi. If your other buyer drops out in a few weeks, please
 VC>  > leave me a note. I am interested in CD programs for
 VC>  > children, new and used. Have a nice day.
 VC>
 VC> Have Interactive Storytime Volumes one and two for $20 each.
 VC>
 VC> Vikki
 VC>
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 VC> 209/209
 VC> 19 30 43
        I am a grandfather looking for children cd's for a 2
        year old. do you know where I can obtain a listing
        of what is in most children's CD's, including age that
        they material is considered to bo of use.
        Would be interested in your two CD's if I knew more of
        what they included.
        Thanks in advance

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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 3946
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  9:12p
Subj: Shareware Explorer!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: [phone]
        $69.00         International 314-521-4862     $69.00
                     Shareware Explorer 4 Disk Set!

Have you been looking for an alternative to Shareware Extravaganza???
The NEW Shareware Explorer Quad pack is just the ticket.   26,000 files
make this the finest collection available for the serious SYSOP or
shareware enthusiast.  Thousands of Applications and utilities: Games -
arcade, card, strategy, word games and more:  Over 1,000 fonts- ATM,
Postscript, & Truetype; A select few Icons and wallpaper bitmaps;
Source/tools for Actor, C, C++ Basic Pascal, TPW & others.  Completely
BBS ready with multiline file descriptions.   Over 600 megs of Windows
files!  Less then 1% duplication of versions, or same programs across
all 4 volumes!  Easy to use Access program allows even a novice to
quickly and easily search for topics of interst and copy or unarchive
them to a hard disk for further use!

                         Don't miss this one folks!

*********************************************************************
   VISA          1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M        MASTERCARD
              ---- 100s of Titles Available ----



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From: DAVID BURKE                            Number: 3947
  To: CHARLEY WEBB                             Date: 08/25/93 12:46a
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> DH>KP>  ********           $ 25.00 a Copy !!!               *****
-> DH>KP>  ******               Ask for Barney                   ***
-> DH>KP>  ******               1-800-638-5757                   ***
-> DH>KP>  ******           We Will NOT be out Sold              ***

-> Thats odd, I paid $15.00 for a new Night Owl #9 cd.

   Hehehe at this rate we should get our free copy sometime in Oct.

                                                     -=- Dave


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From: SCOTT NIKONT                           Number: 3948
  To: JAMES PUNG                               Date: 08/25/93  1:22a
Subj: Re: For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 22 Aug 93 10:17pm, James Pung wrote to All:

 JP>         *****  FOR SALE *******

 JP>  (8) 1megx9 Simms 70 ns          $35 ea. obo

How about $125 for 4 of them, and you send them to me COD +
shipping?  Let me know here, or NetMail at 14/615.

If this deal is a go, would you please go ahead and send before I
get your answer.  Thanks, Scott.

Scott Nikont                      I can be reached by contacting:
PO Box 487  309 Cheyenne Ave      The Panhandle Connection BBS
Hemingford NE 69348               [phone]  FidoNet 1:14/615


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From: JERRY WEGER                            Number: 3949
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  6:03p
Subj: Mitsumi & Sound Card                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Recently bought the Mitsumi drive and am having a good time. I don't
have a sound board and have heard alot about conflicts with this drive
and soundcards. I need advice. Is ther a relatively inexpensive sound
card that is compatable?  have heard of on card, I believe it is a
Galaxy something or other, that has the capability of taking the place
of the Mitsumi interface card. Suggestions or advice would be
appreciated. Also prices if possible. MANY THANKS


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From: JERRY MICKISH                          Number: 3950
  To: GREG KWIATKOWSKI                         Date: 08/25/93  1:08a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Drive For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Yes, my CDR-35 is a complete package. All original NEC manuals, driver disks,
registration cards, and SCSI interface card.


If interested, please reply here.


Thanks, Jerry



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From: JERRY MICKISH                          Number: 3951
  To: PIERRE DU PREEZ                          Date: 08/25/93  1:15a
Subj: Cd-rom Drive For Sale                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for your offer to purchase my NEC CD-ROM. If you are still interested,
you can send the money to me at the following address:

905 2nd Ave. SE
Barnesville, MN 56514-3744.

Please e-mail me if you are still interested.


Thanks,   Jerry



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From: JOSEPH THOMAS                          Number: 3952
  To: JERRY WEGER                              Date: 08/25/93  8:50a
Subj: Mitsumi & Sound Card                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sterio cd and the new Sterio FX/CD made by ATI
and sells for 99 & 149 , in the computer shopper.
Sept, 93.  Also check Aug.93 for a report on this. Tnx.


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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 3953
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/25/93  6:36p
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Who has the best prices on New CD caddies??


Steve

... 313-242-8792
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From: TONY MATA                              Number: 3954
  To: JERRY WEGER                              Date: 08/26/93  1:53a
Subj: Mitsumi & sound card                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jerry, I have my Mitsumi connected to a Sound Galaxy NX PRO 16.  It cost me
$169 and is not too bad of a sound card.  There is a slot to upgrade to SCSI
and there is also a slot (or whatever you want to call it) that will let you
upgrade to wave table synthesis, just like the one on the Sound Blaster 16
(although I don't think the two daughterboards are interchangeable).  The ATI
Stereo F/X is also a Mitsumi-compatible sound card.  Hope this helps!

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From: MIKE BRITT                             Number: 3955
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/24/93  7:06a
Subj: Re: Hitachi Drive For Sale              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TC>      -OR-
 TC>     Will trade this drive for a NICE video Card (1MB),
 TC> something
 TC>    in the neighborhood of a Diamond or Orchid.
 TC>    IF it's a REALLY nice VGA card, I will include a
 TC>    CYRUSS SVGA Windows Accelerator Card (1MB), really a FAST
 TC>    card!, but due to compatibility problems with a specific
 TC>    program, I need to find a different one...
 TC>    If interested, reply here or call my BBS at (404)
 TC> 531-0093
 TC>    or NetMail 1:3616/40 for faster results...

       I have a Trident 1 Meg SVGA Card that I will trade and pay a little cash
diffeence to ya. Tell me what is fair for you?

                                                  Mike

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From: RALPH MOWERY                           Number: 3956
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 08/25/93  9:48a
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JM>Excuse me for butting in, but I have some comments on your settings. Maybe I
JM>so confused I just don't understand, but I think a bit differently from you
JM>choosing the settings.

All comments are welcome Jerry.  There seems to be many ways to do the
same thing. You also pointed out some stuff I missed.


JM>RM>C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:2 FILES 40
JM>                            ^
JM>Wise choice!  It shows you have read the manual, unusual for MOST users.  Mo
JM>folks think that FILES belongs in Config.sys with QEMM, and they are just
JM>wrong!  BTW, you have FILES in Config.sys ALSO! I didn't know the command wo
JM>work without an "=" sign.

I might have missed the = myself.  Will have to check that one.

JM>RM>SET TEMP=c:\DOS

JM>Not really a wise choice.  The function of SET TEMP is to designate a place
JM>that applications can use for a temporary scratchpad.  Most folks have a
JM>separate directory; many use C:\TEMP or similar.  You are at risk of having
JM>something valuable in C:\DOS scribbled over or corrupted.

Thanks, will probably change.

JM>RM>and CONFIG.SYS file

JM>RM>DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS R:2 exclude=A000-C7FF RAM DBF=2 xst=c000 ST:M
JM>                                          ^^^^^^^^^ Thjis is a LOT of space
JM>exclude.  Most folks get by with excluding only the video portion B000-B0FF,
JM>while others need as much as B000-BFFF.  You ought to consider a Manifest
JM>analysis of your real needs; I'll bet you'd get back a LOT of memory.

Windows would not run without this line.  Not sure about the wrest.
Anyway the book said to use it or turn off stealth in QEMM.  I agree
about the ammount of memory.

 JM>RM>Files = 10
 JM>RM>buffers=10

JM>How do you manage to get by with only 10 buffers here?  I needed 40 for many
JM>things, and Alpha 4 demanded 50!  Notice the 10 files, see above.

I have gone to 8 buffers now.  By using Smartdrive, there is no need for
all the buffers.  I use 8 because that is supose to be
the default of DOS.  Others report only using 2.
Not real sure on the files thing.  Found a hint some where to do it that
way and the other files ( over 10 ) go into the uppper memory area.  I
will have to check on that sometime..

JM>RM>DOS=HIGH,umb
           JM>^^^^
 JM>I'm surprised it works. This is ignored by QEMM, and has been for
 several
JM>versions. See the manual. That ",UMB" is a crutch needed by the
JM>lesser-equipped memory managers.

Will give it a try.  Read too many manuals and may have missed that.

JM>RM>LASTDRIVE=H

JM>Another wise choice; too many folks waste space by using "Z".

Would have used an even lower one, but the CD-rom is labled G: in
several places and too lazey to change it.

JM>RM>  The exclude A000-C7FFand xst=C000 JM>RM>are for the Speedstar
24x vidio board in my system..

JM>Oh.  Well, that's a heck of a lot of memory, a lot more than most boards.

The Speedstar is a 24 bit "True color 16.7 million color " board if
that makes any differance ?? I don't know..

JM>RM>All seems to work well with this setup and no crashes or lock-ups..

JM>You must not be experimenting with it enough then.  Most of us live a little
JM>closer to the edge.  :-)

That is why I have a tape backup.  Crashed enough in the past to find
the set-up now.  Now with your hints, I have some more experminting
to do..


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3957
  To: REBEL                                    Date: 08/24/93  5:18p
Subj: Disk                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

R>I also have a ver 1 BB whats the big deal with it Eddie Goodman

It has become a collector's item due to the controversial content.
The value is in the eye of the beholder! <G>

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3958
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/24/93  5:20p
Subj: Disk                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>Great! Since my last reply, I've also learned that the words "Graphic
  >Software" only appear on the Rel. 1 disk. Last I read, Boris got
  >something like $425 for his BB/R1!!  I think I'll hang on to mine
  >for a  while...(:>

Yeah, I knew it was a nice disc, but geeze! <G>  I am offering mine for
bids and seeing what it can bring.

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3959
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/24/93  5:22p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PR>   I am not buying I am selling BB#1, to best offer.

Yes, I am aware of that.  Did I accidentally make a "reply" rather than a
new message?  Sorry about that. <G>

                                                Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 3960
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/25/93  9:30p
Subj: Prophone disks needed....               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TC> I am looking for the ProPhone Set, preferably the 93 edition, but will
  >consider the 92 edition.  I have several disks that I could swap you for
  >the set, or if the price is right, could purchase.  If interested, reply
  >and I'll send you a list of disks that I have.

I'll soon have a set of the 1993 discs onhand.  Let me know what you
have, and maybe we'll make a deal.

                                                        Jim...

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From: BRIAN BOONE                            Number: 3961
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93 11:33a
Subj: cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a good cd-rom pacage for aroun $500 dollars if anyone
knows where i could get one (other than computer shopper) please leave
me some mail.


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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 3962
  To: MARK GRYN                                Date: 08/22/93  4:44a
Subj: Re: CD for trade...                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MG>     Only CD game I've got to trade is Loom, by LucasFilm. Very
 MG>  cool, and I've still got the manual of course...

If you haven't sold it yet I have spacequestIV I'll trade you for
it?
  ken 412 793 9152

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From: BRETT PARKER                           Number: 3963
  To: MARK GRYN                                Date: 08/25/93  7:10p
Subj: OS/2 2.0 - Mitsumi CD-ROM               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mark Gryn scribbled in a message to all:

MG>     Can someone help me?  Or...anyone got an OS/2 driver for
MG> Mitsumi drives?

You might check with Huw Upshall at 1:343/301.


--Brett

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From: BRETT PARKER                           Number: 3964
  To: ROBERT LEE                               Date: 08/25/93  7:13p
Subj: CDROM BBS Door!!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Robert Lee scribbled in a message to All:


RL> It will even work with CD's that don't even have a files.bbs or other
RL> subdirectory

RL> --- SLMAIL v3.0  (#1187)
RL>  * Origin: Searchlight City BBS (1:283/420)

What's the catch? Where can I get it? How much?


--Brett

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From: CRAIG MOSER                            Number: 3965
  To: TED KIDD                                 Date: 08/24/93  9:28p
Subj: Mac CD-ROMS                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  CM> Giga-ROM v3 - Macintosh shareware cdrom
  CM>
  TK> I have a couple of questions about this disc...
  TK>
  TK> 1)  Is it BBS compatible (IBM BBS that it...)? 2)  How much? 3)  What
  TK> is the date of the disc?


This is an HFS (mac) disc version 3.0 - if you are looking for an ISO version,
you need to contact Quantum Leap Technologies @ [phone].
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From: STEVE KRUEGER                          Number: 3966
  To: ALLEN LEVY                               Date: 08/25/93  6:21p
Subj: cd rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I thought you were going to send me a check for the cd rom
It is wednesday and I have not received it yet
If I dont hear from you I have another buyer who is interested in purchasing
it and will sell it to him
214-424-9920
steve krueger



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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3967
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/26/93 11:28a
Subj: Review                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ismail - I'm honored! I'm very much looking forward to receiving it and  can
assure you that it'll get my full attention when it arrives. Thank  you for the
opportunity!
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 3968
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/26/93 11:29a
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUEAUT                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks, Mike. If you haven't already done so, you should soon receive a  letter
from me re: CDs for evaluation. I'd really appreciate your  thoughts on my
proposals, either here or by return snail - your choice.
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3969
  To: RAY DYER                                 Date: 08/25/93  1:04p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Ray!

    $75 for Night Owl 9? If you can't find one of our
authorized dealers in the Toronto area, give us a call.
Its worth trying mail order out, if its going to save
you $40. You'd pay $75 + 8% Ontario Sales Tax + 7% G.S.T.
through that store ($86.25). With us, you pay $37. Period.
All applicable taxes included. Shipping included.
You receive it in 2-3 days. If you buy *any* other disc
from us along with that Night Owl, you'll receive Shareware
Studio for the cost of the shipping and handling (free+$2).

    I've been a retail customer. I've been a mail order
customer. I've paid high prices, and I've had 1 1/2 month
waits for mail ordered discs to arrive from the U.S. That's
why I'm here - because I knew there had to be a better way
for Canadians like myself. Give us a call at 306-789-4654,
and we'll make *sure* that you never want to go anywhere else.

    Vince
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 3970
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/25/93  1:05p
Subj: CANADIAN CD-ROM SOURCE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     Busty Babes release 3.0... order your copy today from
                    the CD-ROM WHOLESALERS!

This is the number one selling adult disc in North America!
This is the disc you've heard owners recommend - not just
the dealers try to sell them, but the people who've bought
them! This is the disc with the revolutionary new interface
SHOWOFF! This is the disc with the licensed private
collection of Michellea! This is the disc you need to own!

              Regularly priced at $40 Cdn / $30US
                   Now just $19 US / $25 Cdn.


                 CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
                      306-789-4654 Voice
                       306-789-8690 Fax
               306-789-8682 Online BBS Ordering

           Mailing address (please include $2 S/H):
          6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk. Canada S4N 4G7


       This offer is only valid until September 1, 1993.
   This offer may not be combined with any coupons or other
                           specials.

   (Release 3.0 only - Not autographed collector's edition)
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 3971
  To: IAN LEVSTEIN                             Date: 08/25/93 12:17p
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Has the Encylopedia Britannica been released on CD yet?

No, and there apparently are no plans to do so for the indefinite future....


 * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline Error - out of Taglines, steal another (Y/N)?

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3972
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/26/93  1:30a
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>are received within the two or three day period. Although this is not a
BO>guareented service, it still works faster and for less the UPS or FED EX.

Yeah, as long as they don't LOSE the darn package, like they've done
with mine several times.  At least with UPS or Fedex you have automatic
insurance coverage.  8)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3973
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/26/93  1:30a
Subj: CD ROM Disk                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>MS>The GAMEWARE Collection is the best I've seen.  We have them in stock
JL>  >at $24.  Around 640mb of games, some older but mostly the newer releases.
JL>  >Fully BBS-compatible with file listings in several formats.  Gimme a
JL>  >call if you're interested!

JL>Hi Mike.  Can you send me one Gameware and charge it to my AMEX card?
JL>Let me know if there is any problem.  Thanks!

Thanks Jim, it's on the way.  Good looking CD!

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3974
  To: CHRIS JOHNSON                            Date: 08/26/93  1:30a
Subj: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CJ>                "Kings Quest VI is not just EXELENT, its a LANDMARK
CJ>                GAME."
CJ>                        Just to add.. the price for this is
CJ>                        APPROX 70.00.
CJ>                I recomend that you team up with Sierra and get this
CJ>                on your price list.  maybe even at discounted prices..
CJ>                this game is well... FAR Beyond 7th Guest.. even though
CJ>                I would recomend it..  anyways... see if you can get
CJ>                KINGS QUEST VI CD ROM VER.  It'll sell SO fast.. I'll
CJ>                PROMISE you that..

Well Chris, we have the King's Quest VI's in stock and selling now
at $47 if you're interested.  If you don't have one yet, talk to me!

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3975
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  1:30a
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

___________________________________________________________________________

                    BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
___________________________________________________________________________

King's Quest VI.....$47   Shareware Explorer..$59   Phonedisc USA.......$69
Soundware Coll'ctn..$27   So Much Shareware 3.$28   Gameware Collection.$24
Aminet Amiga 1993...$15   5 Star Windows......$27   Electronic Cookbook.$33
Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16   Hamware 1993........$28   Mac M/M Space.......$39
Programmers Megapak.$29   Canadian Shareware..$19   Precision Mapping...$79
Shareware Online 2.soon   Microsoft Golf......$58   Mac Shareware.......$22
M/M Computer Tutor..$30   Int'l Graphics Libr.$33   Color Magic Clipart.$28
The Holy Bible......$24   Am. Bus Phonebk 93..$35   Reel Clips..........$35

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 3976
  To: ALL CD'ERS                               Date: 08/26/93  1:30a
Subj: NEW CD 4-PAK: $59!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

           >>>>>>>>>  NEW SHAREWARE CD PACKAGE!  <<<<<<<<<<

---------------------[ SHAREWARE EXPLORER 4-PAK ]--------------------------

                               $59.oo

* 26,000+ files
* 3 discs are completely DOS files
* 4th disc is completely Windows 3.0/3.1 files (over 7000)
* Mostly 1992/1993 files
* Less than 1% duplication among the 4 CD's
* BBS ready
* Very nice file retrieval interface and menu system

If you're searching for an updated and better organized equivalent to the
tired old multi-CD shareware sets that are on the market, look here!  The
Shareware Explorer 4-Pak has over 2.5 GIGAbytes of fresh, quality shareware
files, and is ideal for sysops and end users alike!  Only $59.00 while
current supplies last!

BONUS:  Get Powerpak Gold 3.0 for only $10 with purchase!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: SAL PEDONE                             Number: 3977
  To: ALBERT AFONSO                            Date: 08/27/93 12:35a
Subj: Mm encyclopedia                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Hello All!
->
-> Looking for a GOOD Encyclopedia with multimedia capabilities. If
-> anyone has suggestions or anything for sale, please let me know. I've
-> heard that Comptons MM Encyclopedia is pretty good.
->
-> Take care,
->
-> Albert Afonso

   I have an unopened copy of Comptons MM Ency for windows v1.01w...
   Asking $45 plus shipping...if interested give me a call or echo here
   Sal 912-956-5163  6pm-9pm EST


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From: SAL PEDONE                             Number: 3978
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 08/27/93 12:36a
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> @SUBJECT:Wanted, Comptons encyclopedia
-> N If anyone has Comptons MPC Encyclopedia for sale used, I want it
-> leave message
-> -Jeff

  I have an unopened copy of Comptons MM Ency for Windows v1.01w...
  Asking $45 plus shipping...let me know if you want it...Sal
  912-956-5163  6pm-9pm EST


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 3979
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/25/93 10:26a
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PR>What's up I thought this CD was selling like hot cakes? I sill have one and
PR>would like to sell it. So anyone that is interested give me a call at
PR>512-939-9822 before the price of this CD goes up to high to buy!

   So what is the price?
 ■ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 ■ Don't fight with ugly people.  They have nothing to los


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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 3980
  To: MARK GRYN                                Date: 08/25/93 10:33a
Subj: CD for trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MG>    Barring that, I've also got a Colossal Cookbook CD that is chock full of
MG>recipes...

   How much are you willing to sell it for?
 ■ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 ■ Take my advice - I'm not using it.


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From: JOSEPH FEDERKINS                       Number: 3981
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93  5:32p
Subj: CD-ROMS #1                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD-ROM Drives
=================================================================

Toshiba - 3401 Series - World's Fastest Access Time : 200ms
 - Fully Integrated Audio
 - Double Speed                              Internal $510 + shipping
 - 5.25" CD-ROM Cartridge Drive              External $620 + shipping
 - 330 KB/sec transfer
 - Embedded SCSI-2 Interface
 - MPC compliant
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible


TEAC CD-50 - Access Time : 265ms            Internal $378 + shipping
 - 300 KB/sec transfer rate
 - AntiDust design
 - SCSI-2 Compatible
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - SCSI-2 Interface kit required


NEC - Access Time : 280ms                    Internal $576 + shipping
 - CD Audio Capable                          External $653 + shipping
 - 265K Cache
 - 2 year warranty
 - Multispin 300 KB/sec transfer rate
 - Double dust doors and auto lens dust brush
 - High performance XT/AT, SCSI-2 Interface Kit Included
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible


Mitsumi - Access Time : 350ms                Internal $209 + shipping
 - 32K Buffer
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - Includes 16bit interface card, cable, and device driver
 - Internal Half Height form factor
 - 150 KB/sec transfer rate
 - Patented Dust proof design
 - Multimedia compliant


Sony Desktop Library Multimedia Starter Kit  Internal $307 + shipping
 - Access Time : 550ms
 - Includes 16bit interface card and cable
 - Complete Documentation
 - Installation Software
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - Internal Half Height form factor
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Includes 4 CD-ROM software titles


Sony Desktop Library Complete Multimedia Kit
 - Access Time : 550ms
 - Includes 16bit interface card and cable
 - 16-bit Pro Audio Spectrum sound board     Internal $505 + shipping
 - Sony SRS-58PC speakers and batteries      External $593 + shipping
 - Complete Documentation
 - Installation Software
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible
 - Multimedia compliant
 - Includes 7 CD-ROM software titles

 Future Business Consultants, Inc     Custom configurations are
 1749 West Golf Road    Suite 305     always available
 Mount Prospect, Illinois   60056
 [phone]  M-F 10am - 8pm    SAT 12n  - 4pm
 [phone]  FAX               >>> All times are CST <<<

  Quanities are limited.    Prices are subject to change         8/18/93
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From: JOSEPH FEDERKINS                       Number: 3982
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93  5:32p
Subj: CD-ROMS #2                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD-ROM Drives
=================================================================

Sony External CD-ROM   (2nd Inventory)    $406 + shipping
 - Access Time : <340ms
 - 150KB/sec transfer rate
 - 8K Buffer
 - Built-in Audio
 - Includes 16bit interface card and cable
 - Laser Library Menu
 - Laser Library Installation
 - Includes 7 CD-ROM software titles
 - 1 year Sony Warranty


Texel
 - Access Time : 265ms                       Internal $488 + shipping
 - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible         External $565 + shipping
 - SCSI-2 compliant
 - SCSI-2 Interface Adapter
 - 64KB Buffer
 - 330 KB/sec transfer
 - Dust-Proof construction
 - Self cleaning lens


Texel CD-ROM Home Bundle                     Internal $604 + shipping
 - Same CD-ROM drive as above                External $714 + shipping
 - Stereo Headphones
 - Amplified Audio Speakers
 - CD-ROM Software
     Software Toolworks Multimedia        National Parks
     Software Toolworks Game Pack 2       PC-SIG Library
     The San Diego Zoo's: The Animals     Music Sampler CD
     Nautilus Multimedia Family Guide     Music Audio Control Software
     MPC Wizard Test and Tune-Up CD


Texel CD-ROM Multimedia Bundle               Internal $890 + shipping
 - Same CD-ROM drive as above                External $1011 + shipping
 - Stereo Headphones
 - Deluxe Microphone
 - Media Vision 16-bit Soundboard
 - Amplified Audio Speakers
 - CD-ROM Software
     Compton's Encyclopedia               Autodesk Explorer
     Sierra's King's Quest V              Where in the World is
     The San Diego Zoo's: The Animals           Carmen Sandiego
     Software Toolworks Game Pack 2       PC-SIG Library
     Nautilus Multimedia Family Guide     National Parks
     Music Sampler CD                     Music Audio Control Software
     MPC Wizard Test and Tune-Up CD       World View Media Clips





 Future Business Consultants, Inc     Custom configurations are
 1749 West Golf Road    Suite 305     always available
 Mount Prospect, Illinois   60056
 [phone]  M-F 10am - 8pm    SAT 12n  - 4pm
 [phone]  FAX               >>> All times are CST <<<

  Quanities are limited.    Prices are subject to change         8/18/93
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From: JOSEPH FEDERKINS                       Number: 3983
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93  5:32p
Subj: CD-ROMS #3                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CD-ROM Software Bundles
=================================================================

Business Bundle               $43 + shipping
 - Software Vault 1 Shareware
 - Software Vault 2 Shareware
 - Prophone Business Edition

Reference Bundle              $65 + shipping
 - Reference Library
 - Family Doctor
 - Atlas Pack World/US

Game Bundle                   $50 + shipping
 - Total BaseBall
 - Mario is Missing
 - Deathstar for Arcade Battles

 **** All bundles require purchase of CD-ROM Drive ****
 **** See previous posts for prices and specifications ****


 Future Business Consultants, Inc     Custom configurations are
 1749 West Golf Road    Suite 305     always available
 Mount Prospect, Illinois   60056
 [phone]  M-F 10am - 8pm    SAT 12n  - 4pm
 [phone]  FAX               >>> All times are CST <<<

  Quanities are limited.    Prices are subject to change        8/18/93
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From: CHAD STUDY                             Number: 3984
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/25/93  6:18p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IA> Hi Chad,
IA> The individual is doing Amiga disk has published another shareware BBS
IA> disk in the past and his disk is a good one despite to age of the
IA> programs. I am sure he is doing a good job and this disk will be another
IA> winner in the market. The price is right also!...:-) TTYL

IA> --- DB B2011/001858
IA>  * Origin: GroupMed (1:138/120)

Allright, thanx for the info!!

Chad

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From: BILL WOLF                              Number: 3985
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/25/93  5:08p
Subj: Clip Art                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for a CD-ROM full of Clip Art (for like Pagemaker, MS Word, etc..)
as well as a good collection of TrueType fonts.

If anyone knows of any collections such as the above, please let me know. I'm
looking for a collection for a small DTP business.

Bill

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 3986
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93 11:54p
Subj: Disks for sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 I have several used (but MINT condition) disks that I would like to
 sell (or trade).

  ** Day of The Tenticle.............. 35.00

     Over 4,000 lines of recorded dialogue!  Includes Hint Book.
     This is the sequel to Maniac Mansion, (which is also on the disk)
     So you actually get TWO games in one.

  ** Indiana Jones and Fate of Atlantis.......... 25.00
     Again, this is a FULL talking game.  No text at all!

  ** The Animals of the San Diego Zoo............ 25.00
     Full Multimedia.  Must have Windows, and be displayable in
     256 color.

  ** The 20th Century Almanac.................... 15.00

   Respond here if interested in any of these titles....
   Will trade ALL of the above titles for the PROPHONE set, or
   a Sega Genisis or Super Nintendo.

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From: JEFF BRIELMAIER                        Number: 3987
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 08/25/93 11:39a
Subj: Re: MITSUMI AUDIO                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JR>Could one of you techies out there help me with a minor nagginy problem.
JR>I play my cd as an audio, using PLAYCD,  whenever I'm not using it for a
JR>ROM drive and it works except whenever I start an UPLOAD it stops.  What
JR>makes this so confusing is that it just keeps right on trucking when I
JR>download leading me to believe that there's no interupt conflict.  This
JR>is the only time I have problems with it.  It's a Mitsumi internal using
JR>the latest drivers.

It sounds like you are using Telix version 3.20/3.21 (the version w/ the
"pickbox" for uploading.  If you have version 3.20, you need to get a copy of
3.21.  Below is snippet from the "what's new" file for Telix v3.21:

  February 5, 1993 -- Notes on Telix 3.21:

   o The picklist box has been a continuing source of problems to users of
     removable drives (Bernoulli, device driven floppies, etc).  A new,
     user-editable line can be added to TELIX.CNF (but only with a text
     editor -- there was no room for this one under ALT-O):

     drivelst="acdxz"

     Each of the letters listed in quotes is validated as being a
     POTENTIAL drive letter (i.e. A-Z) and then added to the picklist.  If
     you try to list a drive that doesn't exist, Telix will *accept* the
     drive unchecked, *until* you try to toggle to that drive via the box,
     at which time Telix will attempt to validate the drive, and will not
     allow the change.

     If this parameter is not listed in the config file, Telix will
     continue to validate all drives when you press PgUp or Alt-S.

Add that line to the TELIX.CNF file and include ONLY the drive letters that
you want Telix to look at (by default) when you do an upload.  (I know about
the problem....I had the same problem with my Mitsumi :)

 * KingQWK 1.05 * Registered Telix User #A1013171-*****
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3988
  To: TONY MILES                               Date: 08/26/93  7:52p
Subj: Busty Babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > PR>What's up I thought this CD was selling like hot cakes? I sill have one
 > and
  >would like to sell it. So anyone that is interested give me a call at
  >512-939-9822 before the price of this CD goes up to high to buy!
  >         Also will trade for CD player, CD's, tape backup, or mother board (
  >lest a 40dx). Also in need of some simms. Call and lets make a deal!
  >                                  Pat

 > Are you interested in Windows 3.0 with multimedia CD
 > or Smutware CD?

Already have those CDs but would like a CD player]
 Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 3989
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/26/93  8:04p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > PR>   I am not buying I am selling BB#1, to best offer.

 > Yes, I am aware of that.  Did I accidentally make a
 > "reply" rather than a
 > new message?  Sorry about that. <G>

 >                                                 Jim...
Thats alright but if know any one wants one gove them my number 512-939-9822,
Thanks!
                                        Pat

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From: DAVE WILGA                             Number: 3990
  To: JOSEPH FEDERKINS                         Date: 08/26/93  6:44p
Subj: Cd-roms #1                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JF> Toshiba - 3401 Series - World's Fastest Access Time : 200ms
JF>  - Fully Integrated Audio
JF>  - Double Speed                              Internal $510 + shipping
JF>  - 5.25" CD-ROM Cartridge Drive              External $620 + shipping
JF>  - 330 KB/sec transfer
JF>  - Embedded SCSI-2 Interface
JF>  - MPC compliant
JF>  - Multi-session Photo-CD Compatible

JF>   Quanities are limited.    Prices are subject to change         8/18/93
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If you'll beat CompUADD's  $399 for the same drive you'll have a deal.


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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 3991
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/26/93 11:12a
Subj: LIMITED SUPPLY                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris,

don't forget that those cd players are also windows NT compatable.  am using my
83 with it very nicely, which would validate the 73 also.  later,


Ed Duchek
[phone]

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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 3992
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  2:17p
Subj: Night Owl Graphics CD v1                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*@SUBJECT:Night Owl Graphics CD v1 in Stock!!!                        N
             TCM Computing and Night Owl Publisher Inc., ANNOUNCE:

                         NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS v1 !!!

                         In Stock and Shipping !!!

The same team that brought you Night Owl 9 has now joined forces to bring
you the very BEST in Graphics!!  This new CD contains over 640 Meg. of
high-resolution GIFs and JPGs, as well as TIF, TGA, PCX, Animations,
Clipart, Fractals, Windows wallpaper and icons, plus graphics programs and
utilities:  over 4,500 of the best graphics files from '92 & '93.

                  Availability: NOW!
                  Special Introductory Price:  $39 !!
                  Rated: PG

You can check out this outstanding new Night Owl product yourself by calling
TCM and either (J)oining conference #81 or by downloading NIGHT_G1.ZIP.
Night Owl Graphics v1 may be ordered from TCM in several ways:

  - send check/money order with $39+$3s/h to the address below,
  - call us voice (leave a message if we aren't available)
  - Send us a Fax for Credit Card and COD Orders
  - Call the BBS and leave a message to the Sysop for COD Orders
  - Call the BBS and use the ORDER Door for Credit Card Orders

 [ TCM is the Official Night Owl Support BBS - call for the latest news ]

 [ TCM is an Official Night Owl Distributor - Dealers call for Pricing ]

TCM Computing                                        [phone]
Rt. 2 Box 130                                        [phone] Fax
Midland, Va. 22728                                   [phone] BBS

PS:  I will be taking a few days the week of 8/30 to do some fishing
     with friends.  Any orders we receive during that time will be
     immediately shipped upon my return.
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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 3993
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  2:18p
Subj: Night Owl Windows CD v1 P               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*@SUBJECT:Night Owl Windows CD v1 Pre-Release Announcement!!          N

                  Announcing ANOTHER New Night Owl Product:

                          NIGHT OWL WINDOWS v1 !!!

                     600+ Meg. of files for Windows
                           95%+ 1993 files!
                     Availability:  mid-September '93
                   Windows Retrieval Engine & BBS Ready
                             Price: $49

If you have been looking for a Windows CD with the very best in Programs,
Applications, WAVs, BMPs, AVIs, Utilities, etc., look no further!!  You can
now get all this with the well-known Night Owl quality!!!  PLUS!, the
famous Night Owl retrieval engine has been updated for Windows access!!

TCM is now accepting ADVANCE orders for this new Night Owl product (no one
will have the disk before TCM).  For those of you who would like to check
out the contents of this new CD, we hope to have the DIRs available to d/l
from TCM BBS around Sept. 5th (call the BBS and check for NIGHT_W1.ZIP).
We will also be sending out another TCM Newsletter with the info on this
new disk.  If you aren't on our mailing list leave a message with your name
and address.  Members of our newsletter "family" receive substantial
discounts on all Night Owl products.

TCM has been affiliated with Night Owl for more than 3 years.  We have been
active participants in the development of the disks (e.g. NOPV9 & the new
Night Owl Graphics CD).  Why go with other dealers that sell a bazillion
other disks and are clueless about what is actually on Night Owl?  TCM
specializes in Night Owl; that is why TCM BBS is the Official Night Owl
Support Board.

       ____________________Combo Specials_____________________

       N.O. Windows & Graphics............................$ 69
       N.O. Windows & NOPV9...............................$ 69
       N.O. Windows, Graphics, & NOPV9....................$ 89
       N.O. Windows, Graphics, NOPV9, & NOPV8.............$ 99  !!SPECIAL!!

Please Note: all combos that include the Windows CD will be shipped upon
the availability of the Windows disk (mid-September).  Those of you on
our mailing list will receive a newsletter in appro. 2 weeks with special
discount pricing.  If you want to be put on our list, DO IT NOW!

Night Owl CDs may be ordered from TCM in several ways:

  - send check/money order with appropriate payment (+$3s/h),
    to the address below,
  - call us voice (leave a message if we aren't available)
  - Send us a Fax for Credit Card and COD Orders
  - Call the BBS and leave a message to the Sysop for COD Orders
  - Call the BBS and use the ORDER Door for Credit Card Orders

 [ TCM is the Official Night Owl Support BBS - call for the latest news ]

 [ TCM is an Official Night Owl Distributor - Dealers call for Pricing ]

TCM Computing                                        [phone]
Rt. 2 Box 130                                        [phone] Fax
Midland, Va. 22728                                   [phone] BBS
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From: DON BRADEN                             Number: 3994
  To: KEN TULLY                                Date: 08/26/93  9:22p
Subj: My order                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for your help. I managed to juggle some of my drivers etc. and got
the program to work. It is worth the trouble.

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From: BLAINE RICHARD                         Number: 3995
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 08/26/93  8:19p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Blaine Richard <08-22-93 07:51> Philip Polstra wrote:

PP>   BR> To the SYSOPS who do not like the fact that "SOUTHERN BEAUTIES"
PP>  can
PP>   BR> not be put on their BBS, we have recommended that they offer the
PP>  disc
PP>   BR> for sale on their BBS.  Many of them that followed our advice
PP>  have
PP>   BR> found that they can make more money from the sales of "SOUTHERN
PP>   BR> BEAUTIES" than they do from subscription fees.
PP>   BR>
PP>  I'm sure you'd love that.  Exclude the sysops by telling them they
PP>  can't use it on their BBS and then suggest they peddle it for ya!
PP>  Only an idiot would run a BBS to make money as it is nearly
PP>  impossible.  Most sysops uses that subscription money to buy CD's for
PP>  the BBS, etc.  Looks like they won't be spending any of that sub
PP>  money on this one.

Mr. Polstra, thank you for your reply.  You are correct that I
would LOVE to have SYSOPS distributing "Southern Beauties". It
is not Graphical Images of Florida's decision to not allow
"Southern Beauties" to be used on BBSs.

Most photographers make their living by selling or licensing
the use of their work.  In our contracts, it is forbidden to
distribute the material without paying royalties to the
photographer.

As to whether or not only idiots can make money running a BBS,
you need to be introduced to Rusty & Eddy's and Event Horizons,
to name a few.  As it is so difficult to make money operating
a BBS, selling CDs can only help offset the costs.

With the exception of a few, any disc that presently is allowed
to be used on BBSs, probably violates copyrights and perhaps
should not be put on a BBS.  You may feel that distributing
copyrighted material, for which royalties are not paid, is
acceptable.

BTW: I don't know of any profitable aviation BBS's

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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 3996
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/27/93 11:36a
Subj: MAPS CDROM Which one?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>I like it better because it lets you print, modify, and even create your
MS>own maps.  Plus, if you want to cut a portion of a map, and import it
MS>into another program, you can do it.  Street Atlas, besides having two
MS>year old data, doesn't have these features.  Also, Precision Mapping
MS>runs faster because it doesn't have Windows hanging overhead.  We have
MS>the updated version 1.5b in stock at $88 if you're interested.  Street
MS>Atlas is also in stock at $86.

I already ordered it from you.  I figure it should arrive today if you
didn't send it by UPS.  I watched them them deliver my last order you to
the house next door (it was addressed correctly).......  The house was
noticeably vacant.  Yes, I mean noone lived there period.

     Ty.

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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 3997
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/27/93 12:31p
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


MS>Yeah, as long as they don't LOSE the darn package, like they've done
MS>with mine several times.  At least with UPS or Fedex you have automatic
MS>insurance coverage.  8)                 ^^^

Not exactly true.  Ask Hi-Q Computers in Atlanta, GA.  UPS somehow
misplaced a computer they are swearing they delivered.  Hi-Q has yet to
receive the insurance reimbursement.  UPS in this state has a habit of
dropping your package and running whether someone is at home or not.  As
I mentioned in my previous message to you they can't tell an empty
house with the number clearly in front, no blinds or curtains and bare
inside from a occupied house with the number clearly in front.

            Ty.


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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 3998
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/27/93 12:39p
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


MS>King's Quest VI.....$47   Shareware Explorer..$59   Phonedisc USA.......$69
MS>Soundware Coll'ctn..$27   So Much Shareware 3.$28   Gameware Collection.$24
MS>Aminet Amiga 1993...$15   5 Star Windows......$27   Electronic Cookbook.$33
MS>Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16   Hamware 1993........$28   Mac M/M Space.......$39
MS>Programmers Megapak.$29   Canadian Shareware..$19   Precision Mapping...$79
                                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!?!
Hey .\\ike, I was charged $88 for Precision Mapping, what gives?  I also
notice NightOwl 9.0 is going for $25 and I was charged $28.  Could you
send me two CD Caddies and we call it even?

         Ty.


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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 3999
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93 11:46a
Subj: Seventh Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GOT A COPY OF THE SEVENTH GUEST FOR TRADE.
RATHER INTERESTING PUZZLES (DONLOADED A HINTS FILE CAUSE I WASNT THAT
SMART) BUT JUST DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO SPEND SOLVING THEM (ACTUALLY
HAD A HDD CRASH AND LOST MY SAVE FILES AND MY INTREST IN GOING ALL THE
WAY BACK THROUGH THE GAME SEEING I WAS ALMOST THROUGH IT). ANY ONE
INTERESTED LEAVE A MESAGE HERE OR CALL ME AT 512-275-3273. INTERESTED
IN AN ENCLYPODIA(EXCUSE MY SPELLING) OR POSSIBLY OTHER GAMES. NOT
INTERESTED IN SHAREWARE(I'LL DOWNLOAD ANYTHING I NEED) OR XXX CD'S(I
THINK MY WIFE MIGHT MIND...MAYBE...).

THANKS A MILLION!!!

MIKE


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From: DAVID MOORE @ 910/114                  Number: 4000
  To: AL JAMES                                 Date: 08/25/93  7:44p
Subj: Re: 2 ROMS FOR SALE                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          Al James wrote 
 ÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇ
ÇÇÇI have a couple of CD's that I am willing to trade or sell.
ÇÇÇ
ÇÇÇU.S. History on CD-Rom
ÇÇÇTerrorist Group Profiles on CD-ROM
ÇÇÇMicrosoft Bookshelf (CD-ROM)
ÇÇÇ
ÇÇÇ
ÇÇÇGive me an offer or tell me what you have to trade.
ÇÇÇ
ÇÇÇ
ÇÇÇ-!- ProBoard v1.31 [Reg]
ÇÇÇ ! Origin:  Ç Aesopian Systems Ç 304.744.9059 Ç (1:279/7)
ÇÇÇ
ÇÇÇ
 ÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇ

        Tell me about the Terrorist group profile CD...

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4001
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93 11:19p
Subj: OS/2 CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ====================
                              IN STOCK
 Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21
 package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and
 other special discounts for only $65.00!
 Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
 rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
 line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.

    Call NOW and get your copy today! ORDER LINE ONLY 800-243-0517



Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Now 100% QWK Compatible! More bang for your bucks!
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4002
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/27/93  1:26a
Subj: $9/$19/$29 CD SPECIALS!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                              -----------
                                $9 CD'S
                              -----------

 Phoenix 3.0        WIN/OS2        Windoware        Super Games for Windows
 Powerpak Gold 3    Phethean's     Ham Radio 3.0    Super Games for DOS


                             ------------
                               $19 CD'S
                             ------------

     PC-SIG 12             Moving Fantasies (a)    Visual Fantasies (a)
     Canadian Shareware    Kodak Photo CD          Cookbook Heaven
     Lion's Share          House of Games          Clipart Heaven
     Barney Bear Space     Firearms Reference      CD Winbox
     Storm 1 (a)           Shareware Studio 1      Night Owl 7
     Up All Night          Guinness Disc           Arizona Images


                             ------------
                               $29 CD'S
                             ------------

     Private Pictures (a)   US Wars: Vietnam    US Wars: Desert Storm
     US Wars: WWII          US Wars: Korea      Ecstasy Hot Pics (a)
     Seventh Heaven (a)     Porkware (a)        Int'l Graphics Library

 (a) = adult 21+

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4003
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/27/93  1:26a
Subj: $4 SHAREWARE CD!!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                       +-------------------------+
  CHECK                |   SPECIAL BONUS OFFER   |     GET A FULL 650MB
                       +-------------------------+     OF RECENT SHAREWARE
     THIS              |    POWERPAK GOLD 3.0    |     FOR
                       |     REVISED EDITION     |          ONLY
        OUT !!         |    SHAREWARE CD ONLY    |
                       |  $4.00  W/ PURCHASE OF  |         4   BUCKS!
           ----------> |    ANY PACKAGE DEAL!    |         ----------
                       +-------------------------+

-------------[ CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS ]------------------------------------

1. Night Owl 7.0     2. Storm 1     3. Southern Beauties     4. Hot Pix 3
   Night Owl 8.0        Storm 2        All Beauties             Hot Pix 4
   Night Owl 9.0        Storm 3        Amateur Models           Hot Pix 5
   -------------        -------        --------------           ---------
   $69                  $69            $89                      $79


       5. Night Owl 8.0     6. Night Owl 9     7. All Beauties
          Night Owl 9.0        Pier 2             Southern Beauties
          -------------        ------             -----------------
          $53                  $59                $59


8. Up All Night            9. Empire Clipart             10. Pier 2
   Super CD 2                 Clipart Heaven                 SW Vault 2
   So Much Shareware 3        Encyclopedia of Clipart        SW Studio 2
   -------------------        -----------------------        -----------
   $63                        $59                            $65


11. CD Winbox      12. House of Games     13. Busty Babes     14. Storm 2
    Windows 93         Game Arena             Ecstasy             Storm 3
    ----------         ----------             -------             -------
    $44                $35                    $49                 $49


15. Fantazia Fonts         16. Porkware 1       17. Compton's Interactive
    Fontmaster 2               Porkware 2           U.S. Atlas MPC
    Too Many Typefonts         All Beauties         Learning Adventure
    ------------------         ------------         ------------------
    $49                        $89                  $129


PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .

           WINDOWS/OS2 SHAREWARE CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: JIM NEUMILLER                          Number: 4004
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 08/26/93  3:01p
Subj: Re: DAK CD-ROM SUPPORT                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Steve,
        Thanks for the help.  I'm really looking for a good source of disks
actually.  I just bought a Procom drive...but don't have much to put on it
yet....
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From: JAMES PORTER                           Number: 4005
  To: TERRY BLOUNT                             Date: 08/26/93  4:12p
Subj: $99 Cd Rom Drives                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TB>Sorry they are all gone.  If you send me your voice phone number I'll call y

ok

James
813-345-7297
 ■ OLX 3.10 31-0461 ■ ... "You forget.  Earth lies at the bottom of a hole." --


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From: RICK SHOAF                             Number: 4006
  To: KEN TULLY                                Date: 08/27/93  1:24a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes V1.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 KT>  Your getting closer...  Now move the DECIMAL point to the
 KT>  right a little and we can talk.  There are not many V1.0 BB
 KT>  available, and I think even fewer autographed by Lee and
 KT>  Blaine.  I have been offered $250 so far, so if anyone is
 KT>  interested, I will be selling it off very soon.  You can reach
 KT>  me at 203-387-3174.

Why is this disk so valuable? How can I tell if my disk is a V1.0?
I believe that mine says something about being release 1.0 on the inside
clear plastic.


Rick

Rick Shoaf

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From: MARK GUTT                              Number: 4007
  To: RYAN DENKE                               Date: 08/26/93  6:06a
Subj: Busty Babes 1.0                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ryan, you might be able to get the new release(3.0) for $23, but I don't think
you will get release 1.0 for that price.I'll keep you in mind though.

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From: STEPHEN DURFEE                         Number: 4008
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  8:46p
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                  allegro computer services
                         raleigh, nc
                      tel: [phone]
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 4009
  To: ROBERT PICARD                            Date: 08/28/93  9:17p
Subj: Looking for some CDs                    Refer: 7377
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Shareware Studio Volume III

It'll begin shipping on Tuesday, Sep 7th...

tim
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 4010
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  7:26a
Subj: Cica Windows Update                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CICA Windows CD-ROM disk had been updated and now available from

GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400 1-800-373-0628
1-206-473-1634 FAX  [phone] FAX

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 4011
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  7:37a
Subj: PGG1 - New Adult Disk                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


New Adult Disk

PGG1 - Proffessional Graphics Group I

Thousands of High Quality, High Resolution, Copyrighted GIF
and animations.

This disk a work of 4 different professional photographers. All
material is original!

Price: $49.95

Available thru:

GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409

1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
FAX [phone] or 1-800-277-5179

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 4012
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  7:47a
Subj: Total Fantasy -Adult                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

New Adult Disk

Total Fantasy

Thousands of High Quality GIF and animations.

Price: $29.95

Available thru:

GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409

1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
FAX [phone] or 1-800-277-5179

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From: DAVE MCEWEN                            Number: 4013
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  6:32p
Subj: Info Needed                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

I am looking for information on CD Disks. I have bought a version of Night  Owl
9 and am looking for other CD's of this quality. What I am looking for  is more
the shareware Disks. I would also like to find out how often the  Night Owl
disks come out and where I could possibly get a list of prices  and Disks. I
have been told that a Mike Shannon would be the man to speak to about this but
I don't quite know how to get hold of him. Mike if you  are out there could you
netmail me at 5:7104/9.

Cheers,
           Dave

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From: TODD OSTRER                            Number: 4014
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  4:07a
Subj: cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DEALER CD-ROMs

MINIMUM ORDER IS 5 CD-ROMs (can mix).   (Good Volume Discounts)

   Visa, MC, AmEx, Discover,
   Money Order.

Todd Ostrer
2473 S.E. 135th
Portland, Or. 97233
[phone] 24 hrs / 7 days
[phone] (BBS) 14.4v32

ADULT
Adult Palate (PC or Mac)........... 28
Adult Reference Library............ 25
After Dark Trilogy................. 40
All Beauties....................... 29
Amateur Models..................... 29
Animation Fantasies Vol 1 or 2..... 28
Asian Ladies....................... 29
Busty Babes........................ 29
Deep Throat........................ 49
Digital Dancing.................... 49
Digital Dreams..................... 30
Dirty Talk......................... 45
Ecstasy Hot Pics................... 29
Erotic Encounters.................. 29
Erotic Encounters 2................ 29
FAO (3 disk set)................... 65
Foxes.............................. 27
Gay World 1........................ 30
Gay World 2........................ 30
GBL (gay, bi-sexual, lesbian)...... 30
Giffy Gold......................... 28
Glamour Girls 1943................. 40
Hidden Obsessions.................. 43
Hot Hunks..(gay)................... 30
House of Sleeping Beauties (movie). 45
Island Girls....................... 24
Lovely Ladies II................... 28
Manpower (gay)..................... 30
Moving Fantasies (194 movies)...... 35
My First Time (2 CDs).............. 43
My Private Collection 1 or 2....... 28
Mystique of the Orient............. 43
Night Watch Interactive............ 45
Nix Pix Hot Pix 1.................. 55
Nix Pix Hot Pix 2, 3, 4 or 5....... 26
PC Pix 1, 2 or 3................... 28
Physical Therapy (XXX-Extreme)..... 26
Pixure ROM 1, 2 or 3............... 30
Pixure ROM Triple Exposure (3 CDs). 85
Pork-Ware 1........................ 28
Pork-Ware 2........................ 29
Private Pictures................... 29
RimFire Pacific.................... 43
Seedy Rom 1 thru 6 (each).......... 29
Seedy Rom 6 pack...................150
Seedy Rom 7th Heaven............... 30
Seedy Rom Movie Disk #1............ 33
Sexxcapades, The Movie............. 47
Smutware........................... 28
So Much Stareware.................. 28
Southern Beauties.................. 32
Storm 1............................ 26
Storm 1, 2 & 3..................... 72
Storm 2............................ 26
Storm 3............................ 26
Swimware 1993...................... 29
Swimware & More.................... 28
Visual Fantasies................... 28
Volcano............................ 27
Wicked............................. 55
Women of Venus (bathing suits)..... 28

ART & GRAPHICS
--------------
Clip Art Galore.................... 30
Clip Art Goliath................... 22
Clip Art Heaven.................... 30
Corel Upgrade to ver 3, CD included150
DTP Dream Disk (clip art,fonts,book 50
Gifs Galore........................ 25
Just Fonts v1...................... 33
Library of Art: Europe, America.... 65
Mother Earth....................... 33
Publish It Ver. 2.................. 30
Publisher's Paradise............... 33
So Much Screenware................. 33
Too Many Fonts..................... 22
Wild Places (with sound)........... 36
World View  (with sound)........... 36

BUSINESS
--------
Amer Business Phone Book '92....... 26
Britannica Select Software......... 30
Business Master.................... 28
Marketing Master................... 30
Pro Phone '92 (3 CDs).............. 50
Pro Phone '93 (7 CDs)..............140
Pro Phone Business '93............. 43

EDUCATION
---------
Aesop's Fables..................... 30
Animals of the San Diego Zoo....... 26
Animals of the San Diego Zoo (MPC). 28
Arthur's Teacher Trouble........... 50
Barney Bear Goes to School......... 28
Beauty & the Beast................. 30
Beethoven, multimedia.............. 60
Best of Both Worlds (PC Globe)..... 50
Birds by Audobon, multimedia....... 33
Britannica Family Choice........... 30
CD Menu & Music Player............. 23
Carmen San Diego deluxe............ 36
Classic Coll(Mam,Birds,Holmes,Shake 55
Education Master................... 26
Great Cities of the World v 1 or 2  30
Great Wonders of the World......... 40
Interactive Storytime 1 or 2....... 36
Jazz, a multimedia history......... 70
Just Grandma & Me.................. 48
MacMillan Dictionary for Children.. 40
Mammals by Audobon................. 30
Mammals, National Geographic....... 30
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing........ 30
Mixed-Up Mother Goose.............. 28
Monarch Notes...................... 66
Musical Instruments, Microsoft..... 60
Peter & The Wolf................... 30
Presidents Started with George..... 80
Putt Putt Joins the Parade......... 47
Sleeping Beauty.................... 42
Talking Classic Tales.............. 36
Talking Jungle Safari.............. 36
Talking Schoolhouse................ 36

GAMES
-----
7th Guest (2 CDs).................. 48
Battlechess Enhanced............... 58
Battlechess Multimedia............. 30


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From: TODD OSTRER                            Number: 4015
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  4:07a
Subj: cd's for sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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Chessmaster 3000................... 30
Deathstar.......................... 22
Game Master........................ 26
Game Pak I, Toolworks.............. 23


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From: ALAN WILLIAMS                          Number: 4016
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93  9:18p
Subj: CD-ROM PROGRAM WANTED                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anyone selling "Shadow President" on CD-ROM?

If so, please give me a mailing address and amount so I can send you and
order.  Shipping will be via U.S. Snailmail.... thanks.

Al
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From: RODNEY RUDD                            Number: 4017
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 08/27/93 12:59a
Subj: AI CDRom                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EB>     I am looking for any and all CDroms dealing with AI and
EB> Neural Nets,
EB> if anyone has any for sale, or knows of any, I'd like to here
EB> about them!

Me too!  As long as they contain ANSI compatible "C" source code, that is!

:-)

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From: ROBERT BIR                             Number: 4018
  To: MICHAEL SELLS                            Date: 08/25/93  9:23p
Subj: Precision Mapping                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hello michael  i will buy that disc for $70.00 leave me e mail
   if your interested
                        ROBERT A BIR
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From: SHADOW SMITH                           Number: 4019
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  6:32p
Subj: Looking for:                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for any of the 650MB movies on CD_ROM.  If you any, please
respond to this message.  Thanks!

Shadow Smith

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From: MARK WOMACK                            Number: 4020
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/25/93  2:22p
Subj: Prophone disks needed....               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Todd,

TC> I am looking for the ProPhone Set, preferably the 93 edition, but
TC> will consider the 92 edition.  I have several disks that I could swap

I recently got the ProPhone 93 set from Dustin Discount Software and
the guy told me that there was going to be another version released
in a few weeks and they were taking orders.  I don't know how true
this is, that's just what he told me.
Please do your homework before you by this CD set.  This isn't the
proper echo for me to voice my opinion so I won't get started...


... Despite the cost of living, it remains popular.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4021
  To: IAL)........  94.95                      Date: 08/26/93  9:35p
Subj: Weekly CDROM Specials                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

           PCJ "Hot" WEEKLY SPECIALS 8/26 - 8/31

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From: PAUL ELLIOTT                           Number: 4022
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/18/93 12:03a
Subj: News, Weather and Sports for your BBS   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sysops, You Can Now Carry Current News on Your BBS. For .50 per Day.
All News is updated each morning. In depth, accurate articles from several
international sources.

 Headline News
 World News                   Weekly Special Features
 National News
 Washington News              Video Rentals & Sales
 Business News                Nielson TV Ratings
 Daily Market News            Music Industry Top Sellers
 NYSE Closing Prices          Weekend Box Office Receipts
 AMEX Closing Prices
 Baseball
 Basketball
 Football
 College Sports
 Tennis & Golf
 Misc. Sports
 Entertainment News
 Science News
 Weather

For a sample file and subscription form Freq. SAMPLE.ZIP from 1:362/1202
or Call IBEX BBS at [phone]

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From: PAUL ELLIOTT                           Number: 4023
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/23/93 12:03a
Subj: News, Weather and Sports for your BBS   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sysops, You Can Now Carry Current News on Your BBS. For .50 per Day.
All News is updated each morning. In depth, accurate articles from several
international sources.

 Headline News
 World News                   Weekly Special Features
 National News
 Washington News              Video Rentals & Sales
 Business News                Nielson TV Ratings
 Daily Market News            Music Industry Top Sellers
 NYSE Closing Prices          Weekend Box Office Receipts
 AMEX Closing Prices
 Baseball
 Basketball
 Football
 College Sports
 Tennis & Golf
 Misc. Sports
 Entertainment News
 Science News
 Weather

For a sample file and subscription form Freq. SAMPLE.ZIP from 1:362/1202
or Call IBEX BBS at [phone]

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From: MICHAEL BULLOCK                        Number: 4024
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93 10:28p
Subj: Looking For DBASE or FoxPro 2.x CD-ROM  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi all,  I was wondering if anyone knows of a CD that contains ONLY DBASE
or FoxPro2.x/FoxBASE shareware???

I run FoxBBS in Chattanooga which deals primarily in Database programming,
Please feel free to upload any shareware you may have or let me know of
the CD's you have or have seen.

Thanks,  Mike B.
FoxBBS 615-870-2193

... It works!  Now, if only I could remember what I did.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4025
  To: DAVID ROBERTS                            Date: 08/27/93  3:53p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes 1.0                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DR>
 DR> I read this message you had left Lee and am just
 DR> wondering why is this disk
 DR> so valuable, I paid $25 for it 6 months ago.
 DR>
Anybody who would pay $250 for a $35 CDROM disc is a real fool <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4026
  To: MAX GREEN                                Date: 08/27/93  3:56p
Subj: BB                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MG> day and
 MG>   was way too late.  He was down to his last 4 CDs and the price had
 MG>   already climbed to at least $250.oo  Had to
 MG> settle for one of those cheap
 MG>   $25.oo CDs.  Guess I will never know what I
 MG> missed, but since I never had

That has got to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of to pay $250
for a CD disc.  I have one here on my BBS and Busty has always been a great CD
disc, but it sure isn't worth paying $250 for.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4027
  To: ROBERT PICARD                            Date: 08/27/93  3:59p
Subj: Looking for some CDs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 RP> Simtel 93  ( X 2 )
 RP> CD PowerBox
 RP> Software Vault Collection 2
 RP> Our Solar System
 RP> Shareware Studio Volume III
 RP> Night Owl 9.0
 RP> Monster Media 93

We have just about the lowest prices around on these.  Call our BBS at
615-479-1047 (14400) and download PCJCDS.ZIP for the current prices.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4028
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/27/93  4:04p
Subj: weekly cd specials                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

           PCJ "Hot" WEEKLY SPECIALS 8/26 - 8/31

Busty Babes v3.0.........................................  24.95
Microsoft Bookshelf (Windows MPC)........................  44.95
Mystic of the Orient (Adult Video).......................  36.95
ProPhone 1993 (7 CD Set - Business & Residential)........  94.95
Prophone 1992 (3 CD Set - 1 Business & 2 Residential)....  34.95
Software Toolworks Bundles:
US & World Atlas/Animals/Reference Library/Grolier's......  72.95
US & World Atlas/Animals/Reference Library/Grolier's MPC..  84.95

  Orders - 800-547-7817 (9 - 9 EST) or 615-339-0235 (24 Hours)

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From: VIKKI CLAYTON                          Number: 4029
  To: JIM HILGEFORD                            Date: 08/26/93  6:48p
Subj: GRANDMA AND ME                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >         I am a grandfather looking for children cd's for a
 > 2
 >         year old. do you know where I can obtain a listing

It's okay, Jim, I even sell things to grandfathers !
Volume 1 has Goldilocks, The little red hen, and the boy and the donkey.
Volume 2 has Peter and the Wolf, the milkmaid and her pail, and belling the
cat.  Vol. 2 includes a color book option
that prints out the story in coloring book pages !
Click on any word to hear it pronounced, or click on any object to hear the
word.
The only way I have found to know what's in the CD's is to order a whole bunch
of catalogs - or to ask.

Vikki

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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 4030
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 08/27/93  5:14p
Subj: Seventh Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MRH> GOT A COPY OF THE SEVENTH GUEST FOR TRADE.
 MRH> RATHER INTERESTING PUZZLES (DONLOADED A HINTS FILE CAUSE I WASNT THAT
 MRH> SMART) BUT JUST DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO SPEND SOLVING THEM (ACTUALLY
 MRH> HAD A HDD CRASH AND LOST MY SAVE FILES AND MY INTREST IN GOING ALL THE
 MRH> WAY BACK THROUGH THE GAME SEEING I WAS ALMOST THROUGH IT). ANY ONE
 MRH> INTERESTED LEAVE A MESAGE HERE OR CALL ME AT 512-275-3273. INTERESTED
 MRH> IN AN ENCLYPODIA(EXCUSE MY SPELLING) OR POSSIBLY OTHER GAMES. NOT
 MRH> INTERESTED IN SHAREWARE(I'LL DOWNLOAD ANYTHING I NEED) OR XXX CD'S(I
 MRH> THINK MY WIFE MIGHT MIND...MAYBE...).

 MRH> THANKS A MILLION!!!

 MRH> MIKE

        Hmmm.. I dont have any CD's to trade you.. but I'll
        offer 30.00 for it..??..!!

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From: CRAIG EDON                             Number: 4031
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/27/93  6:40p
Subj: OS/2 CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 08-26-1993, BORIS OSADCIW expounded to all that would listen,
certain words of wisdom concerning OS/2 CD...

BO> Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
BO>  rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
BO>  line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.

Isn't the rebate only for registered users of 2.0?

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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 4032
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/27/93  5:34p
Subj: New Echo - Multimedia                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > There is enough interest to get it qualified for backbone status.
 > BTW, vendors are also welcome!..After echo will get going, I will
 > give up the moderator status to another individual who may have more
 > time. TTYL

Please let us know when it hits the backbone Ismail....thanks.

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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 4033
  To: BRIAN BOONE                              Date: 08/27/93  4:49p
Subj: cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (26 Aug 93) Brian Boone wrote to All...

 BB> I am looking for a good cd-rom pacage for aroun $500 dollars if anyone
 BB> knows where i could get one (other than computer shopper) please leave
 BB> me some mail.
 BB>

We carry several good CD-Rom packages, it really depends on what
you want to do. If you give me an idea, I can make some
recommedations.

Paul Sedillo
The Storage Specialists

Orders Only
1.800.224.5150

Current Price List
1.303.940.1012
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From: PAT RILEY                              Number: 4034
  To: ARIENE CHANG                             Date: 08/26/93  5:56p
Subj: Multimedia Items For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I'm interested in buying a cd-rom and I was wondering where or if I c
-> reach you for a possible purchase of a cd-rom.  In what currency are
-> selling your cd-rom...Canadian?  Can you also tell me some more speci
-> about it thanks.
->
->
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->
I can be reached most week days at 618-692-1652.
Currency is US.
What type of drive are you looking for?
I have them from $189.00 to $600.00 +
Tell me what you want to do with it.

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From: JOHN WALDEN                            Number: 4035
  To: DAVID BURKE                              Date: 08/27/93  3:09p
Subj: 82% Match                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I don't understand.  What do you mean?  Please explain.


John

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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 4036
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 08/27/93  6:46a
Subj: Aviation CD                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Does anybody sell a CD dedicated to Aviation stuff?  I run an aviatio
-> oriented BBS and would like something like this for my collection.
 HP> There is one called the 'aircraft encyclopedia' advertised juast about
 HP> anywhere....
 HP> I am an aviation nut myself! What's you BBS number?

I'm looking for something I can put on my BBS for download.  I don't think
aircraft encylcopedia fits the bill.  BBS # is 317-583-0732.


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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 4037
  To: KEN TULLY                                Date: 08/27/93  5:53a
Subj: Busty Babes v1.0r                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++I
WILL GO $ 260.00
YOU CAN FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497 FOR MY ADDRESS AND MORE INFO

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From: MARIO BONELLI                          Number: 4038
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/27/93 11:36p
Subj: Toshiba 3101 Repairs                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Looking for anyone who repairs Toshiba 3101 CDROm drives, please get back
to me as soon as possible.

Mario Bonelli - Ask Me About The Newly Forming AMIGA_HAM Echo - FREQ US!
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From: MARK WATERS                            Number: 4039
  To: KEN TULLY                                Date: 08/26/93  7:23p
Subj: Busty Babes v1.0                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->  Your getting closer...  Now move the DECIMAL point to the right a li
-> we can talk.  There are not many V1.0 BB available, and I think even
-> autographed by Lee and Blaine.  I have been offered $250 so far, so i
-> is interested, I will be selling it off very soon.  You can reach me
-> 203-387-3174.

I have BB Volume 1, but how do you know if it's one of the first copies
made?  Is there some special writing on the disc or casing somewhere?

Thanks!
Mark


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From: GLEN MCALLISTER                        Number: 4040
  To: JEFF KAPLOW                              Date: 08/26/93 11:54a
Subj: CDrom                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hay Jeff,
        Your CD is not online.  I tried to go into a file section that is on
your CD and got the message "that area does'nt exist!".
                                                        -=Glen=-

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4041
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93  8:52p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have one copy of Busty Babes Version 1.0.  Anyone interested in
bidding on it, please call or write.  Serious offers starting at $250
only please.  Thank you!

Computer Works
Rt 3 Box 794-B                                          Jim...
Ashford, AL 36312
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4042
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 08/28/93 12:00a
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > PR>What's up I thought this CD was selling like hot cakes? I sill have one
 > and
 > PR>would like to sell it. So anyone that is interested give me a call at
 > PR>512-939-9822 before the price of this CD goes up to high to buy!

 >    So what is the price?
The price that is on it as of today is $175.00, give me a call if you are
interrested. Can't say the price won't go up as I am starting to get bids
again.
                     Thanks Pat

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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 4043
  To: DAN CONLEY                               Date: 08/26/93 12:23p
Subj: Credit Card Charges                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I thought I'd let everyboby know that credit card surcharges are
-> illegal. I purchased a complete system from a VERY WELL KNOWN company


Dan, a correction to your note. Surcharges are NOT
illegal. They do violate most credit card merchant agreements. There is
a big difference between being against the law and violating a contract
between two individuals or corporations.


Most merchants get away with a surcharge simply because their customers
do not know that it is a violation of their credit card contracts. Glad
you got your refund.

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From: MARC ABRETTI                           Number: 4044
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/27/93  1:28a
Subj: Pagemaker 5.0                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

WRONG...TRY THE COMPUTER SHOPER MAGAZINE, FOR PRICE LISTINGS

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4045
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/28/93  2:26a
Subj: CD-Rom Catalog                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>I have just finished making our new CD-Rom catalog.  We have many new
JL>products and have reduced the price on a lot of the others.  If you
JL>would like a copy of this catalog, please log on and download
JL>catalog.zip.  It lists all of our titles with prices and descriptions.
JL>If you are looking for a shareware CD-Rom, be sure to check file area
JL>#15 for the file list.  Downloads permitted on the first call.  Thanks!
JL>
JL>Computer Works                                  Jim...
JL>CD-Rom Sales!
JL>[phone] Voice
JL>[phone] BBS 14.4k        Online Credit Card & COD Orders
JL>
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Anyway to get this catalog w/o having to make a long distance call? :)
Thanks!

                                    -Jason

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4046
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/28/93  2:35a
Subj: CD-ROMs Wanted                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi. If anyone has any info on where I could find the following titles
I'd be VERY appreciative. If possible, please include prices. THANKS!

  * Magazine Rack (or any magazine library) - the most recent one
Please.
  * "Countries of the World" by Bureau Development, Inc. - Again, teh
most recent edition please.
  * "U.S. History" also by BD, Inc.
  * "TIME Magazine Almanac"

Basically, I'm looking for an assortment of reference disc's so if you
have a title that you think is good, please reply with a description and
price & where I can find it. THANKS A LOT!!!

                               -Jason

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4047
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/28/93  2:38a
Subj: PC-SIG                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Has anyone had any experience with the PC-SIG company? They've sent me 2
fliers within the last coupla monthes that sound like good deals. One is
for "New Windows CD-ROM: only $19.95" and the other is for "New Games
CD-ROM **$19.95**"  If anyone's dealt with them before, please let me
know what your experiences have been. BTW, their address is 1030D East
Duane Avenue; Sunnycale, CA 94086 and I know that's legit because I've
verified it through another CD w/ bussiness directories on it.

Thanks a lot for the help!

                               -Jason

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 4048
  To: SAL PEDONE                               Date: 08/28/93  4:27a
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Thanks for the offer, but Comptons Ency. is 49.00 new including shipping
if I buy it here... if you will go less, let me know.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4049
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 08/27/93 11:17p
Subj: CD-ROM MASTER LIST 1/2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DS>Hi there Mike,  how about being a cool guy and selling me 7th Guest for $39?

It's yours Darren.  All I need is some card info and a place to send it.
Give me a call and we can fix you up.

Bye,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4050
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/27/93 11:17p
Subj: BRAND NEW CD'S IN STOCK!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 n e w * n e w * THE NEW CD'S KEEP POURIN' IN AT STARVECTOR! * n e w * n e
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------

 5-STAR PREMIUM WINDOWS - Latest Windows shareware + 950 OS2 files!.....$27
 AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK 93/94 - New release. 11,000,000 businesses.$39
 AMINET AMIGA - New from Walnut Creek. Lots of current Amiga shareware..$15
 ARIZONA IMAGES - Fabulous photos of the Arizona desert country.........$30
 CANADIAN SHAREWARE - 6500+ shareware programs ready to run from the CD.$22
 COLOR MAGIC CLIPART - 600 megs. of 3-D color clipart.  Royalty-free....$27
 FIREARMS REFERENCE - Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
 GAMEWARE COLLECTION - Over 6000 of the all time best games! BBS-ready..$24
 GIGA GAMES - Brand new from Walnut Creek. Set up for 6 popular BBS's...$26
 HAMWARE 93 - The Ham's #1 source for Ham software......................$28
 KING'S QUEST VI - Newest in the KQ series. Better than 7th Guest!......$47
 MAC MULTIMEDIA SPACE - A multimedia space encyclopedia. (Mac only).....$39
 MAC SHAREWARE - Loads of innovative new Macintosh shareware programs...$24
 MICROSOFT GOLF - Multimedia Golf game that is "on par with reality"....$58
 PHONEDISC USA - Summer '93 edition w/ 80 million residential listings..$69
 PINACOTHECA M/M - Multimedia presentation of classical paintings.......$24
 PRECISION MAPPING 1.5b - Newest release! Detailed street-level map.....$79
 REEL CLIPS - 600mb of royalty-free digital video clips.................$44
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER - New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$59

                    Adult Titles (must state age 21+)
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 AMATEUR MODELS - All original images of young models. BBS-ready........$35
 DIRTY TALK - Full-color, full-motion video w/ adult film stars.........$59
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2 - Sequel to release 1 with fresh, new images.......$36
 KAMA SUTRA - Indian documentary adult film w/ narration................$59
 LUSCIOUS LADIES - Hot new adult .GIF CD with outstanding cover art.....$37
 MYSTIQUE OF THE ORIENT - 600mb movie featuring Oriental beauties.......$59
 SEYMORE BUTTS INTERACTIVE - Fantastic new "interactive" adult film.....$49
 SOUTHERN BEAUTIES - Gorgeous photos of beautiful southern women........$30
 TOTAL FANTASY - Newly released .GIF disc from Denmark..................$33

 Special Offer #1:  Buy any 5 titles above and deduct 5%
 Special Offer #2:  600mb shareware CD or Windows/OS2 CD only $6 w/ any CD!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4051
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/27/93 11:17p
Subj: 7TH GUEST NOW $39!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *************************************************************************
                          7TH GUEST SPECIAL OFFER!
 *************************************************************************

       PRICE:  $39!!        In stock, ready for immediate delivery.

 MINIMUM Requirements:  2 Megs RAM * 386DX CPU * 16 bit SVGA video card
 with at least 512K RAM * CD-ROM Drive w/ 150K per second minimum transfer
 rate * Sound card w/ FM and PCM sound * Mouse * Hard drive w/ 10 Megs free
 MSCDEX 2.2 or higher * DOS 5.0

 RECOMMENDED Hardware:  486sx 20mhz or faster CPU * 4 Megs RAM * Fast
 16 bit SVGA video card w/ 1 Meg RAM or local bus video * CD-ROM drive w/
 300k per second transfer rate and less than 300 ms access time * Roland
 LAPC-1, MT-32, or Sound Canvas and 16 bit PCM Sound Card

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
       "This is the new standard in multimedia entertainment.  This
        is the future."       - Bill Gates, Chairman Microsoft Corp.
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: DAVID BURKE                            Number: 4052
  To: JOHN WALDEN                              Date: 08/28/93  2:40p
Subj: 82% Match                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I don't understand.  What do you mean?  Please explain.

   From your quote I can't help you... I have never posted anything
about 82%. All my recent post were on NO Adult stuff unless it is in
the... Adult Only CDROM Echo... and I would like a SOFTWARE Only CDROM
Echo... and HARDWARE Only CDROM Echo...

                                                     -=- Dave


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From: GENE HAM                               Number: 4053
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 08/27/93 12:08p
Subj: RED HOT SPECIALS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > ... If Clinton didn't inhale, why is he brain-dead?

Lack of OXYGEN..........



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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 4054
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/28/93 11:29a
Subj: Jem Disk CD-Rom Trade In Sale           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Do you have some unwanted CD-Rom discs that are just lying around collecting
dust?  If you do, why not take advantage of this great deal from Jewel
Distributing?

Send us your old CD-Rom (in good condition) and $14.95 and we'll send you Jem
Disc I shareware CD-Rom collection.  Jem Disc was printed last fall and
contains many timeless files.  Due to it's super selection of BBS related
files, it's a must for all sysops!  Integration with bbs software is EZ!

There's hundreds of games, swimsuit GIFs, communication files, programming
files and much much more.  You won't be disappointed!

The current price without trade in is $19.95 plus S/H so this deal represents
a savings of $10.  HURRY - offer ends 9/15/93!

For more information FREQ from 1:203/49 -

JEMTRADE - for the trade in special order form (5k)
JEMDISC  - regular order form for those without something to trade (5k)
JEMFILES - complete FILES.BBS file listings (250k)

Or call my BBS at [phone] and download these files from my logon matrix
(enter JEM at the Dos prompt) - I have a v.32bis modem online.

Thanks!

Michael Crosson


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From: MARK SPARLING                          Number: 4055
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/27/93  1:22p
Subj: Toshiba 3401 wanted                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking to buy a new or used Toshiba 3401 internal CD-Rom,
cables, screws, rails.
Also, a PAS 16 as my controller.
I have found the 3401 new for $399 in Computer Shopper,
and the PAS 16 for $150.

I will need some discs too, and welcome suggestions.
An encyclopedia, an adult disc or two, a home library, Kings Quest VI,
7th guest.

Maybe some Altec Lansing speakers too.

Leave me mail here.

Mark Sparling




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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 4056
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/28/93  2:15a
Subj: Re: Busty babes #1                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message on <23-Aug-93 22:36:00> Pat Rickerson (1:160/9) wrote:

 PR> What's up I thought this CD was selling like hot cakes? I sill have
 PR> one and would like to sell it. So anyone that is interested give me a
 PR> call at 512-939-9822 before the price of this CD goes up to high to
 PR> buy!
 PR>          Also will trade for CD player, CD's, tape backup, or mother
 PR> board (at lest a 40dx). Also in need of some simms. Call and lets make
 PR> a deal!
 PR>                                   Pat

 PR> --- FastEcho 1.25
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I'll take it. what kind of cd player you looking for??


 Jesse

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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 4057
  To: DAVID ROBERTS                            Date: 08/28/93  2:17a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes 1.0                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message on <23-Aug-93 19:25:53> David Roberts (1:345/23) wrote:


 LN>> No problem, Jim...the label film on the disc says, "Graphic Software"
 LN>>
 >> --Dealers now have bids for $350.00 per each 1.0 disc-- Versions 2.0
 >> and 3.0 do not have these large font words on the disc film --If you
 >> have one of these, hold onto it--

 DR> I read this message you had left Lee and am just wondering why is this
 DR> disk so valuable, I paid $25 for it 6 months ago.

 DR> ... "With the lights out, it's less dang'rous" ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
 DR> --- Renegade v07-17 Beta
 DR>  * Origin: The Homeboy Shopping Network - 808-624-1294 (1:345/23)

you want to sell it i'll give you 50.00 for it.

 Jesse

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4058
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 08/28/93  9:27p
Subj: Busty Babes v1.0r                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > +++++++++++++++++++++++++
 > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++I
 > WILL GO $ 260.00
 > YOU CAN FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497 FOR MY ADDRESS AND
 > MORE INFO
Also have one if you know anyone needsa one starting price is $225.00. They can
reach me at 512-939-9822
                                Pat, Thanks for your help

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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 4059
  To: TYRONE THOMASON                          Date: 08/28/93 10:26a
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Hey .\\ike, I was charged $88 for Precision Mapping, what gives?  I
 > also
 > notice NightOwl 9.0 is going for $25 and I was charged $28.  Could
 > you
 > send me two CD Caddies and we call it even?

You've been ripped off, rush down and call the BBB right away <G>.

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4060
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/27/93  5:39p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >Thats alright but if you know any one wants one give them my number
  >512-939-9822, Thanks!

Sure thing.  It's funny how these things work.  I just got a copy of
Erotic Encounters 2, which is supposed to be banned in the USA.  I'll
bet millions of them will sell! <G>

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4061
  To: DAVID HEYDRICK                           Date: 08/27/93  8:48p
Subj: Special Interest                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a couple different titles you may be interested in.  Give me a
call and we can discuss the details.  Both titles sell for $39 each.

Computer Works
CD-Rom Sales!                                           Jim...
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4062
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/28/93  3:34p
Subj: SOUTHERN BEAUTIES                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike:

Thanks for the CD. Blaine had already sent one directly to me so I'm
returning yours unopened.  Along these lines, please be sure and let me
know what you think of the ideas in my letter.

Ciao!
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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 4063
  To: J. ALLEN                                 Date: 08/28/93  9:47p
Subj: Still available                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On <22 Aug, 10:41>, J. Allen wrote to All :

JA> I have the following CD-ROM disks for sale or possible swaps.  All disks
JA> DO NOT RESPOND IN THIS ECHO!!  Direct E-mail offers to 1:2201/13
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    This is the CDROM_SALE, I *WILL* reply here.  If you do not want offers in
this echo, then DO NOT POST in this echo.  Now, on to business.

JA>  5.00   MEDLINE                 Medline Database
JA>  5.00   LAW LIBRARY             Social Law Library

    Tell me a little more about these disks and you may have a sale.

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From: ROB JANSEN                             Number: 4064
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/28/93  5:58p
Subj: 386DX20 w/8mb Motherboard for Sale      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a motherboard for sale. A full size, 386dx 20mhz with 8mb of DRAM
(4 mb of 80ns and 4mb of 70ns). Asking $425


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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 4065
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 08/27/93  3:25p
Subj: WIERD SCIENCE                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>member of Thom's fan club,
>would set up their disks so you have to use XARC?

 BF> Outside of his ARC fixtation, Tony's not a a bad guy -
 BF> come to the One BBS Con
 BF> and you can discuss the whole thing with him in person....

     No way Jose.....I got my dose for the decade of Phil Becker when we put on
FidoCon 89' a while back. I was thinking about it a few months back but theres
too much on the schedule. Yes, I understand Tony's a nice guy (his use of XARC
on the Magnum disks notwithstanding) and I hope he sells a zillion disks, buys
Jack another bottle of champagne and makes enough to pay his legal bills, buy a
new system and move into a state not stuck in the dark ages.
     DCK


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From: DON KULHA                              Number: 4066
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/28/93  8:21p
Subj: Apple Sevice Info CD                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

** Surplus Apple Service Info CD-ROM (January 1993 Edition) $18 Delivered! **

     This disc contains over 75mb of valuble information on servicing Apple
products including all CPU's (128's to Powerbooks), Monitors, Printers, net-
work products and more in hypercard format. Included are exploded views,
disasembly/diagnostic/adjustment procedures, service bulletins, safety tips,
movies, wiring diagrams....a wealth of information. If you've got a Mac and
CDROM (or access to one) this disc can be a great resource and save you $$$.
This is the disc Apple sends it's dealers...Now you can have it too!

** Send SASE for our new brochure or $18 to order (Check or Money order) **

  Sonoma Online, P.O. Box 7518, Santa Rosa, CA 95407 (707.545.7533 Voice)

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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 4067
  To: EVERYBODY                                Date: 08/28/93  9:48p
Subj: -=- CD-Rom Drive Specials -=-           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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From: PHILIP POLSTRA                         Number: 4068
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/28/93  9:16p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BR> With the exception of a few, any disc that presently is allowed
 BR> to be used on BBSs, probably violates copyrights and perhaps
 BR> should not be put on a BBS.  You may feel that distributing
 BR> copyrighted material, for which royalties are not paid, is
 BR> acceptable.

Just because something is copyrighted doesn't allways imply there is a royalty
due.  After all I can write a program with a copyrighted extender and
distribute it royalty free in most cases.  Given that at the moment most casual
computer users don't have a CDROM of their own, and that sysops don't have time
to look at pictures it seems that a large part of the market is excluded by not
allowing BBS use.  But hey it's up to you and you have every right to do
whatever you wish with your products even if it limits your market.


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From: MOHIT GOYAL                            Number: 4069
  To: ALAN WILLIAMS                            Date: 08/28/93 11:47p
Subj: CD-ROM PROGRAM WANTED                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AW>Anyone selling "Shadow President" on CD-ROM?

When did this come out?  How does it differ from the floppy version?

Thanks!
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From: MOHIT GOYAL                            Number: 4070
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/28/93 11:47p
Subj: OS/2 CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ====================
  >                              IN STOCK
  > Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21
  > package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and
  > other special discounts for only $65.00!
  > Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
  > rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
  > line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.
BO>    Call NOW and get your copy today! ORDER LINE ONLY 800-243-0517

That's real nice of you, considering that IBM is selling it direct for
$89!

Most place are charging between $70-$85 dollars for the cdrom upgrade.

$95 is a fair price for the floppy upgrade though.
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From: B.A. CROWELL                           Number: 4071
  To: AL BECK                                  Date: 08/28/93  7:46p
Subj: Echomail                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

May I please have access high enough to leave messages?  (Or at least could
you turn on the flag?  :-)
                                        Bruce

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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 4072
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/28/93  9:25a
Subj: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS> CJ>                "Kings Quest VI is not just EXELENT, its a LANDMARK
MS> CJ>                GAME."
MS> CJ>                        Just to add.. the price for this is
MS> CJ>                        APPROX 70.00.
MS> CJ>                I recomend that you team up with Sierra and get this
MS> CJ>                on your price list.  maybe even at discounted prices..
MS> CJ>                this game is well... FAR Beyond 7th Guest.. even though
MS> CJ>                I would recomend it..  anyways... see if you can get
MS> CJ>                KINGS QUEST VI CD ROM VER.  It'll sell SO fast.. I'll
MS> CJ>                PROMISE you that..

MS> Well Chris, we have the King's Quest VI's in stock and
MS> selling now
MS> at $47 if you're interested.  If you don't have one yet,
MS> talk to me!

MS> Later,
MS> .\\ike

MS>  STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 *
MS> 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
MS>  VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs /
MS> $.50 ea pc over 5

MS> ---
MS>  * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline thievery . . . On the next Geraldo!

MS> --- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
MS>  * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat
MS> DOOR (1:3407/101)
Hmmm.. really?.. sorry about my "QUOTE RAMPAGE"  I wan't myself on
that day..  hmmm... how are KQ6's selling?



        Chris Johnson
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From: MIKE KIRKPATRICK                       Number: 4073
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/28/93 10:07p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

That CD-Rom is Already available To Purchase.

Mike


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From: RICHARD CAVIN                          Number: 4074
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/28/93 11:04p
Subj: Re: Disks for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>   ** Day of The Tenticle.............. 35.00
>
>   ** Indiana Jones and Fate of Atlantis.......... 25.00
>   ** The Animals of the San Diego Zoo............ 25.00

Todd, are you interested in trading for Super Nintendo games and/or Sega
Genensis games. I've got several of each that i've finished and am interested
in all three of the above CDs.

Thanks,
Richard

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From: MIKE WAVRECAN                          Number: 4075
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/28/93 11:21p
Subj: Looking for CD ROM!?*                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello I'm looking for a CHEAP cdrom that will work with cd's<G> if you know
someone who has one or if you have one write back and I'll give you my phone
number also tell where your from and tell the price and if you want games or
anything else ask me I'll try to be of accistance OK like seeya then ok so like
for sure dude!BYE:-)


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4076
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93 12:46a
Subj: OS/2                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ====================
                              IN STOCK
 Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21
 package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and
 other special discounts for only $65.00!
 Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
 rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
 line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.

    Call NOW and get your copy today! ORDER LINE ONLY 800-243-0517



Boris Osadciw

... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4077
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93 12:46a
Subj: RED HOT                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - SHAREWARE VAULT 2 - CD POWERBOX/WINBOX   PRICE - $15.00ec
 ALL NEW - HOT PIX 5 - DIGITAL DREAMS - SWIMWARE 93 PRICE - $25.00ec
 ALL NEW - PROGRAMMERS MEGA PACK - 5 STAR PREMIUM   PRICE - $35.00ec
 MORE SPECIALS - AMATURE MODELS - GAME/SOUNDWARE    PRICE - $25.00ec
PRO PHONE(BUS) $20. WORLD TRAVELER $10. JOKES/PRANKS OR 1001 UTIL $10.
KINGS QUEST VI $49. TOOLWORKS ENCYC - DOS/WIN $50.COMPTIONS ENCYC $60.
   COMING SOON - BLACK BOX 5 - - -  24 HOURS A DAY 7 DAYS A WEEK
CALL 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) OR 216-225-3263 FOR ADDITIONAL INFO

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: MARC GRANCOIN                          Number: 4078
  To: DAVID MCSPADDEN                          Date: 08/23/93 11:48p
Subj: To France                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello David!

15 Jul 93, David Mcspadden writes to Kevin Lam:


 DM>    CD-WORLD ships to Canada Air Mail for $4.00. This will cover up to 5
 DM> cd's.

And how much for France, please ?

Bye
Marc

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From: MARC GRANCOIN                          Number: 4079
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/25/93 12:09a
Subj: Some GREAT CDROM Prices                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Doug!

30 Jun 93, Doug Carpenter writes to All :

 DC> ******* PCJ Computing - Partial CDROM List - 6/30 - Continued **********

 DC> *************************************
 DC> ** We meet all legit / noncloseout **
 DC> ** prices in this echo. No hidden  **
 DC> ** charges for credit cards. Call  **
 DC> **for Adult Titles. Ship Worldwide **
 DC> *************************************

Could you give me shipping prices for France, please ?

Bye
Marc

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From: YVES CHARIER                           Number: 4080
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/25/93  1:33a
Subj: Thanks for your reply                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mike,

I found your reply in my mail yesterday morning: thanks!

I'm going to fax you my order for National Geographics Mammals CD-ROM
by the end of this week :-)

Regards,
- Yves
(from Paris XIIth, France)

... Wolves are back in France!

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From: PATRICK MCHUGH                         Number: 4081
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  3:32a
Subj: Just grandma and me                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Just Grandma and Me CD ............... Best Offer

Patrick
[phone]
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From: VICTOR EMOND                           Number: 4082
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/29/93  8:26a
Subj: Re: 6 Cdrom Changer                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Being that you sell the Pioneer 6CD changer could you give a price on
the DMR600 and the DMR604X. I'm looking to buy either one. Also do you
do COD's or credit cards.

thanks.

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From: VICTOR EMOND                           Number: 4083
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  8:44a
Subj: Pioneer 6cd wanted                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for a Pioneer DMR600 or DMR604x 6 CD changer, at best
possible price. Cash available now.
Please reply here or call me voice at 702-385-5202.

thanks.

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From: MIKE FURST                             Number: 4084
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/29/93 10:31a
Subj: Thanks!                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike,
 I received my order for Compton's Interactive Encyclopdia within
2 days of placing the order! Just wanted to say thanks for your speed on
your orders.
                                          Thanks Again,
                                               -- Mike

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From: BRIAN BOONE                            Number: 4085
  To: PAUL SADILLO                             Date: 08/29/93 11:52a
Subj: cd-rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

well, i just wanted it to play alot of the games on mostely and for
like the encyclopedia and some helpful stuff like that.  I wanted it
with a 16 bit sound card, interface, and acouple of cd's if possible.


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From: KEN TULLY                              Number: 4086
  To: RICK SHOAF                               Date: 08/28/93 10:15a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes V1.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 KT>  Your getting closer...  Now move the DECIMAL point to the
 KT>  right a little and we can talk.  There are not many V1.0 BB
 KT>  available, and I think even fewer autographed by Lee and
 KT>  Blaine.  I have been offered $250 so far, so if anyone is
 KT>  interested, I will be selling it off very soon.  You can reach
 KT>  me at 203-387-3174.

 RS> Why is this disk so valuable? How can I tell if my disk is a V1.0?
 RS> I believe that mine says something about being release 1.0 on the inside
 RS> clear plastic.


The original copy has the BAMBAM Logo on it, and the disk contains material
that was not put on subsiquent editions.  It is a VERY special disk.  Anyone
interested will have to reply to me here before the 1st of Sept.


                                        Ken...

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From: PAUL SEDILLO                           Number: 4087
  To: EVERYBODY                                Date: 08/29/93 10:07a
Subj: -=- Monthly Catalog -=-                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 4088
  To: JIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 08/29/93  7:20a
Subj: Related ?                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JS> Related ?

 JS> Jim Schooler
 JS> 1:102/910

Sent you netmail Jim, did you get it ?

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From: DOUG SNELL                             Number: 4089
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/29/93  9:00a
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I have one copy of Busty Babes Version 1.0.  Anyone
 > interested in
 > bidding on it, please call or write.  Serious offers
 > starting at $250
 > only please.  Thank you!
What make BB #1 so valuable?

                    Doug

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 4090
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 08/28/93  6:32a
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> No, and there apparently are no plans to do so for the indefinite fut
That's funny, I was at a fair a couple days ago at a Britanica both, and
they had it on CD-ROM there.

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 4091
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 08/28/93  6:37a
Subj: Seventh Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> INTERESTED LEAVE A MESAGE HERE OR CALL ME AT 512-275-3273. INTERESTED
-> IN AN ENCLYPODIA(EXCUSE MY SPELLING) OR POSSIBLY OTHER GAMES. NOT
Got any Sierra CD's?

 * TNet 3.50 = Papermaker BBS * Siletz Or. * 503-444-2377

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4092
  To: JESSE SCHMELZER                          Date: 08/29/93  4:12p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > I'll take it. what kind of cd player you looking for??


I want a CD rom drive for a computer! If thats what you have give me a call at
512-939-9822
                     PAt

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From: MARK LONG                              Number: 4093
  To: STEVE KISER                              Date: 08/23/93  7:40p
Subj: Re: Pro-Phone 93 Crosspost              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Steve Kiser to All <=-

 SK> =====================================================================
 SK> * Forwarded by Chris Gunn (1:202/1008)
 SK> * Area : ENTREPRENEUR (FidoNet - Entrepreneur Conference)
 SK> * From : Don Bosman, 1:159/950 (10 Aug 93 16:17)
 SK> * To   : All
 SK> * Subj : ProPhone 93 ... not good
 SK> =====================================================================
 SK> I just bought a copy of ProPhone 93 CD-ROM and would like to warn
 SK> others off this blatantly misleading product.

Thanks for the warning.  I was going to get it but I cant see how it could
do what it advertises.  The company I work for uses the commercial NYNEX
disk system.  But its just for the east coast.  However, its based on the
cdroms that are the size of video laser disks.  Its accurate but expensive.


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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4094
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/26/93 11:37a
Subj: Toshiba Q's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm considering purchase of a Toshiba 3401 (internal) CD ROM drive and
have some questions. Anyone with answers or comments, please jump in!

?    What's a good adapter for use with this drive? What's the
     difference between the 8-bit and 16-bit controllers?

?    What additional cables, mounting kit, etc. will be required to
     hook the drive up to the controller and to my SoundBlaster 16
     (for audio)? I (will) have an available 5.25" slot in tower
     case - Gateway 2000 486/33 system. Any known problems with the
     Toshiba and this computer?

?    What's a good price for the drive?  For the controller?

?    Any recommendations on a good dealer for purchase of same? Do
     they possibly take used equipment in trade (otherwise, I gotta
     sell a couple of items before I can get the drive)?

If you are a dealer, please leave price, etc. info if this is an
appropriate conference. Or you can call me at 913-888-5201 ext.257
(8a-4p central, or leave voice mail). I need a package with the items
listed above and a couple of disk caddies. No software required (I
already have a CD ROM drive I'll be selling if I decide to get the
new one). Thanks for the info!

-hk
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4095
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/27/93 11:35a
Subj: Package....                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

received. Thanks.  My home phone number is [phone]. Machine  answers
after four rings. Watch for my post next week.
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: MARTIN YEE                             Number: 4096
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 08/29/93 12:24a
Subj: Seventh guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MRH>GOT A COPY OF THE SEVENTH GUEST FOR TRADE. Hi Mike,
   Does your copy come with the bonus VHS tape? If yes, interest you in
   a trade for one of the following:
   CDROM
   Just Grandma & Me (w/storybook)
   Complete with all original packing & warranty card.

   DISK
   XWING
   Star Control ][
   Task Force 1942
   Willy Beamish
   Ambush at Sorinor
   Laser Squad

   All disk games are complete with original disks, docs, & box.

Martin Yee ph: 415 923-9893

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From: BOB BRODOVSKY                          Number: 4097
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/29/93  8:18a
Subj: CDs' Good Deal                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike,
Just wanted to say thanks for the great deal on the CD-ROM titles I
ordered from you. They arrived 3 days after I ordered them and they are
just fine. I usually am very leary of mail order but I won't hesitate to
order more software from you when I need it.

Thanks again,

Bob


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From: DAVID NGHIEM                           Number: 4098
  To: TONY MILES                               Date: 08/29/93  1:51a
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DN> 101 GL, DL movies
DN> No descriptions
DN> Not wife-proof
DN> Published in February 93

I am wondering.  WHat does "wife-proof" mean in an adult-cd-rom?  I have
seen that before in ads.


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From: JASON SAUVE                            Number: 4099
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  1:42p
Subj: CD's 4 S A L E                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
CD-ROM COMMERCIAL SOFTWARE:
Title                                    Disk Sizes  Gfx    Price (CDN)
────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
CorelDraw 3.0 For Windows                *CD-ROM*    SVGA      $150
  SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
    -  IBM compatible 386s, 486s, and PS/2s
       286s require Windows in protected mode with minimum 4 megs RAM
    -  Windows 3.1 required for True Type fonts
    -  Windows 3.0 font support provided by Adobe Type Manager (not included)
    -  Hard Drive
    -  VGA Windows supported monitor
    -  Mouse or tablet
  INCLUDES
    -  CorelDRAW                -  CorelPHOTO-PAINT
    -  CorelCHART               -  CorelSHOW
    -  CorelMOSAIC              -  CorelTRACE
  CONDITION
    -  Includes everything except the registration card


European Racers                          *CD-ROM*    SVGA      $ 55
  CONDITION
    -  Includes ALL ORIGINAL documents including registration card
    -  Includes model (Porsche 911 slant nose) in it's original package
       Model requires assembly
    -  Used ONLY twice
  PC SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
    -  386 SX or greater                  -  4 MB RAM or greater
    -  SVGA graphics                      -  CD-ROM drive
    -  DOS 5.0 or greater                 -  Soundblaster card
    -  Speakers or headphones             -  Mouse (joystick optional)
    -  13 MB Hard Drive
  DESCRIPTION
    -  State-of-the-art, interactive 3-D instructions for building your own
       Porsche, Bugatti, Lamborghini and Nazca models - four of Europe's
       hottest racing machines!
    -  The plastic modem kit for the super hot, super fast Porsche 911 slant
       nose.
    -  High-tech, motion picture video tips that show you how to paint, glue
       and finish your model like a pro.
    -  Building your car is only half the fun - climb behind the wheel and
       enter an action-packed, 3D driving simulation game guarenteed to keep
       you on the edge of your seat every time you play.
    -  Experience the real life, high-speed handling of each super-charged car
       and the incredible realism of 3-D graphics.
    -  Test your stuff against on-screen competitors on four European roads &
       race tracks.
    -  But, watch out for speed traps! The police are waiting to catch you on
       your way to the track.
    -  Cruise over the track-even over buildings - with European Racers copter
       cam.
    -  Throughout the game, listen, learn or receive your punishment from the
       motion picture video policeman, gas station attendant, sportscaster,
       pit crew attendant, custodian, and beauty queen.
    -  Got a feel for the car? How improve your performance by customizing
       your race car to match the randomly changing weather, the track layout,
       and the competition.


 ┌──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
 │ --  100% of all software contains original box, disks, manuals & other   │
 │     documents unless stated otherwise.                                   │
 │ --  100% of the executable programs are NOT DEFECTIVE.                   │
 │ --  NO guarentees/refunds under any circumstances.                       │
 │                                                                          │
 │ All Prices include sales taxes.                                          │
 │ S & H Approx. $5 in CAN / $7 out of CAN not included in the above prices.│
 │ Money orders and cheques are accepted.                                   │
 │ Cheques will take approx 3 days longer to process and clear.             │
 └──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

*****************************************************************************

For more information, if you are interested in purchasing a product leave
me mail via any board in 519 area code on any of the "For Sale" nets
specifically in the Windsor / Essex County districts with your phone number
included to Jason Sauve, or contact me at [phone] ...

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From: CLIFF RUMMENIE                         Number: 4100
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/24/93  5:07p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM MASTER LIST 1/2 2/2          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike

        I'm interested in a good Clipart CD of non-shareware stuff
        - have Goliath Shareware disc, have access to Key
        ClipMaster Pro ... what have you got?

... Mediocrity thrives on standardization.
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From: CLIFF RUMMENIE                         Number: 4101
  To: ALBERT AFONSO                            Date: 08/24/93  5:11p
Subj: Re: MM Encyclopedia                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Albert Afonso to All <=-

 AA> heard that Comptons MM Encyclopedia is pretty good.

        Well ... I have the 1990 Grolier .. not really up to date,
        and the 91 Comptons ... the Grolier's has relayed
        information to me more consistently than the Comptons ..
        maybe the new ones are different.

... The four food groups; instant, concentrated, microwave, & take out.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4102
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 08/29/93 12:04a
Subj: Thanks                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DR>Thanks for the order bonehead.  (Actually, I'm having problems with my mail
DR>getting out, and picked you to test with).  ;-)

You're coming in loud and clear, Beavis.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4103
  To: DAVE MCEWEN                              Date: 08/29/93 12:04a
Subj: Info Needed                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DM>I am looking for information on CD Disks. I have bought a version of Night
O
DM>9 and am looking for other CD's of this quality. What I am looking for  is
mo
DM>the shareware Disks. I would also like to find out how often the  Night Owl
DM>disks come out and where I could possibly get a list of prices  and Disks. I
DM>have been told that a Mike Shannon would be the man to speak to about this
bu

Dave,

You were well informed.  8)  We have over 325 titles now in stock at very
decent prices, with new material arriving daily.  If you would like a copy
of our updated catalog, you can freq STARCAT.ZIP from 1:3407/101, or
download it from our BBS @ 509-457-0206.  If there are any questions I
can answer for you, don't hesitate to call our voice line @ 509-457-2892.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4104
  To: SHADOW SMITH                             Date: 08/29/93 12:04a
Subj: Looking for:                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SS>I'm looking for any of the 650MB movies on CD_ROM.  If you any, please
SS>respond to this message.  Thanks!

Shadow,

We carry several.  Here are some examples:

 After Dark Trilogy (New!).....45.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00
 SeXXcapades The Movie.........49.00
 Seymore Butts Interactive.....49.00
 My First Time (Adult Film)....39.00
 Mystique of the Orient (Film).59.00
 Nightwatch Interactive........49.00
 Kama Sutra....................59.00
 Hidden Obsessions.............59.00

Let me know if any of these interest you.  All are in stock, ready for
shipment.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4105
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/29/93 12:04a
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUEAUT                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>Thanks, Mike. If you haven't already done so, you should soon receive a
lett
BJ>from me re: CDs for evaluation. I'd really appreciate your  thoughts on my
BJ>proposals, either here or by return snail - your choice.

Bob,

Yes, I did receive your letter today, and your proposal sounds quite
agreeable to me.  I will be sending you a couple of new adult titles
every week for review, good or bad!  Just return the ones you don't want.
As for Busty 2.0, I agree that $45 is too high.  I am in the process of
closing a deal now to aquire a large volume of them, which I should be able
to sell at my old price of $33 if you're interested.  I'll keep you posted.

(In reference to your P.S., I've heard similar comments from others, FWIW)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4106
  To: TYRONE THOMASON                          Date: 08/29/93 12:04a
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TT>MS>Yeah, as long as they don't LOSE the darn package, like they've done
TT>MS>with mine several times.  At least with UPS or Fedex you have automatic
TT>MS>insurance coverage.  8)                 ^^^

TT>Not exactly true.  Ask Hi-Q Computers in Atlanta, GA.  UPS somehow
TT>misplaced a computer they are swearing they delivered.  Hi-Q has yet to
TT>receive the insurance reimbursement.  UPS in this state has a habit of
TT>dropping your package and running whether someone is at home or not.  As

That they do, but at least you have a course of action to take in case
a package is lost or stolen.  With U.S. Mail, if a package is lost and
uninsured, you're outta luck.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4107
  To: TYRONE THOMASON                          Date: 08/29/93 12:04a
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TT>MS>King's Quest VI.....$47   Shareware Explorer..$59   Phonedisc
USA.......$6
TT>MS>Soundware Coll'ctn..$27   So Much Shareware 3.$28   Gameware
Collection.$2
TT>MS>Aminet Amiga 1993...$15   5 Star Windows......$27   Electronic
Cookbook.$3
TT>MS>Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16   Hamware 1993........$28   Mac M/M
Space.......$3
TT>MS>Programmers Megapak.$29   Canadian Shareware..$19   Precision
Mapping...$7
TT>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^!?
TT>Hey .\\ike, I was charged $88 for Precision Mapping, what gives?  I also
TT>notice NightOwl 9.0 is going for $25 and I was charged $28.  Could you
TT>send me two CD Caddies and we call it even?

Tyrone,

As often happens in this ever-changing industry, the purchase price of
various CD titles changes from week to week according to what the dealers
are paying for them.  In the case of Precision Mapping, we made an
initial bulk purchase when they were brand new, at a given price.  We set
our price of $88 accordingly, based on a percentage markup of what we
paid.  When the stock ran out (of which you got one of the last ones), I
found a different source that gave me a better price, hence the lower
price of $79 which I pass to my customers.  I am finding that it is
quite common for new titles to enter the market high, as was the case with
Night Owl 9 at around $50, and gradually or sometimes quickly depreciate
as time wears on and the title becomes dated.

As for Night Owl 9, for which I charged you $29 (not $28), that is my
normal advertised price.  Nonetheless, I have sold #9 to some of my
customers who have asked me to match other dealers prices, and in the
interest of good customer relations I'll honor your request.  Call anytime
if you have any other comments or questions.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4108
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93 12:04a
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI IN STOCK!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

___________________________________________________________________________

                    BRAND NEW CD ARRIVALS AT STARVECTOR!
___________________________________________________________________________

King's Quest VI.....$47   Shareware Explorer..$59   Phonedisc USA.......$69
Soundware Coll'ctn..$27   So Much Shareware 3.$28   Gameware Collection.$24
Aminet Amiga 1993...$15   5 Star Windows......$27   Electronic Cookbook.$33
Hobbes OS/2 1993....$16   Hamware 1993........$28   Mac M/M Space.......$39
Programmers Megapak.$29   Canadian Shareware..$19   Precision Mapping...$79
Shareware Online 2.soon   Microsoft Golf......$58   Mac Shareware.......$22
M/M Computer Tutor..$30   Int'l Graphics Libr.$33   Color Magic Clipart.$28
The Holy Bible......$24   Am. Bus Phonebk 93..$35   Reel Clips..........$35

    600mb SHAREWARE CD or SHAREWARE GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES:  1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4109
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93 12:04a
Subj: SEEDY 6-PAKS: $149                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                     SEEDY ROM 6-PAK: $149 + $4 S/H.
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These famous adult CD sets are now available again. For a time they were hard
    to find, but Starvector has several sets in stock ready for immediate
 delivery at only $149 + $4 shipping. That's only $24.83 per CD, and each is
    packed with top-quality GIF pix with GIF's and FLI/GL animation on #6.

      >>> NO DUPLICATION BETWEEN CD'S!   OVER 29,000 GIF's IN ALL! <<<

                           >>> BBS-READY <<<

  Find a better advertised price?  Call us and we'll BEAT it!  No hassles.

   BONUS:  Seedy #7 (Seventh Heaven) available separately for only $31,
   or $24 if purchased with 6-Pak.

                          (Must state age 21+)

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: KEVIN RICH                             Number: 4110
  To: ANDREW SETO                              Date: 08/28/93  8:22p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Cd-Rom For Sale             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Is it internal or external...and does it come with a controler card?
-
Kevin

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From: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                      Number: 4111
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/29/93  3:17p
Subj: BB                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >  MG> day and
 >  MG>   was way too late.  He was down to his last 4 CDs and the price had
 >  MG>   already climbed to at least $250.oo  Had to
 >  MG> settle for one of those cheap
 >  MG>   $25.oo CDs.  Guess I will never know what I
 >  MG> missed, but since I never had

 > That has got to be the most ridiculous thing I have
 > ever heard of to pay $250 for a CD disc.  I have one
 > here on my BBS and Busty has always been a great CD
 > disc, but it sure isn't worth paying $250 for.

Mebbe not. But if somebody offered you $250 for it wouldn't you take it and
laugh all the way to the bank?

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From: RON RICHMOND                           Number: 4112
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 08/28/93 11:00p
Subj: Canadian sales                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HI Michellea,
      After I spoke to you on Sat. I called Dave Reed. He was very
   good,going so far as sending me a non- adult disk to replace
   the disk Customs grabbed.

To ALL.
      I had ordered Busty Babes vol.2 from Dave and it was held at the
   border. The P.O. would not return it to Dave and when I called Fed.Ex
   they estimated $24 to $36 Can. depending on actual weight,to send it
   back. Estimated only, because I cannot get the disk to them from
   Customs.and they would have to pick it up at the P.O. I chose to
   abandon the disk, as this would be almost as much as the original cost.
   Customs would not tell me which disks would be stopped.
   Canadians would be well advised to order from Vince and Michellea
   Sorensen.
                                                  Ron.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4113
  To: MARK WATERS                              Date: 08/29/93 12:03p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes v1.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mark Waters to Ken Tully <=-
 MW> I have BB Volume 1, but how do you know if it's one of the first
 MW> copies made?  Is there some special writing on the disc or casing

Yep!  Look at the top of the CD. If the words "Graphic Software"
appears, it's from the first pressing. You could also chekc the CD's
contents. If the two directories XSTORY1 and XSTORY2 are MISSING, then
it's from the first pressing.

... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4114
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  7:01p
Subj: Review: Southern Beauties - 1/5         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   My very sincere thanks to Blaine Richard and David Van Gelder of
   Graphical Images of Florida (GIoF) for providing a copy of their
   latest adult CD release "Southern Beauties" (SB) for review.

   In general, this review will follow the style and content paradigms
   of my past reviews, but with some added embellishments which I hope
   the reader will find useful and informative.  I found this to be
   necessary because (a) in writing my past reviews, I've learned a few
   things; (b) it took me far longer to review SB than it has any
   previous adult CD; and (c) I think SB represents the coming trend in
   its genre and more expaded, more robust reviews will be warranted.

   Statistics
   ==========

   This section addresses the numerically measurable aspects of the CD
   under review.

   Computer examination of SB revealed 1240 usable images.  Of this
   number, 1003 are GIFs and 237 are TIFF (Targa) files.  The GIF files
   all report a resolution of 1024x768x256.  The Targa files all report
   a 640x480x16M resolution. The GIFs occupy 359,280,955 bytes for an
   average size of about 358,306 bytes.  Make no mistake, these are
   large files (more on this later in the VISUAL section).  The Targa
   files uniformly report about 1,312,463 bytes/file occupying some
   307,132,488 bytes in all.

   SB's scans are all originals as near as I could tell.  I didn't run
   their names against my GIF file name data base to search for possible
   re-hashing because of that belief.  Having said that, I did spot a
   few scans that were near twins of each other.  While these wouldn't
   strictly qualify as duplicates, they're so close to each other in
   style that dropping one or the other from the CD's inventory would
   have been at no net loss.  A few examples of these "near duplicates"
   are: ALITA_06 & _08, CASSY_08 & _09, and TRIO_06 & _10.

   Operations to follow...

... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4115
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  7:04p
Subj: Review: Southern Beauties 2/5           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   Operations (Part 1)
   ===================

   This section focuses on the "usability" aspects of the CD being
   reviewed.  Factors that influence both end-user and BBS usage are
   considered. This section necessarily has some subjectivity in it so it
   should be remembered that what follows is only one person's opinion.

   The CD "Southern Beauties" does indeed contain several text files in
   various directories that are uniformly named "FILES.BBS" (F.B).  GIoF
   has taken pains both on this echo, in some files on the CD itself, and
   in SB's packaging to say that SB's images are NOT to be used on a BBS
   for downloading.  Questions have been raised regarding that stance and
   the existence of F.B - the two things seemingly in contradiction with
   each other.  I think I know the answer to this paradox which comes in
   multiple parts:

       First, and to satisfy a relevant point that has also been recently
       raised, these files do indeed follow the format of the original
       F.B specification: file names begin in column 1 followed by a 45
       character (or less) file description beginning in column 14.

       Secondly, the F.B files that accompany the images in their
       respective directories are 100% useless for BBS use because every
       description is identical.  Each and every such description says
       only that the file is copyrighted material of GIoF.  At first
       glance, this may raise the question of why put such a F.B there if
       it's useless. I think that's the whole point.  It is part of GIoFs
       attempt to ensure that SB won't be used on a BBS.  After all, with
       a meaningless F.B, a sysop would have to either generate actual
       descriptions for some 1200+ files - something that's likely to
       make him miss Monday Night Football at least - or be content to
       listen to endless gripes from his users that the descriptions are
       useless.  Neither is a productive pursuit.  One could argue that
       simply leaving off F.B altogether achieves the same result which
       would seem a reasonable conclusion.  An alternate answer is that
       F.B generation is a more-or-less by-product of the manufacturing
       process which is easier to make useless than to delete.  I can't
       answer that point with any insight.

       Thirdly, there are a few truly usable F.B on SB.  These are in the
       UTILITY directory, the VPIC directory, and the HELP directory.
       Reading through them with a text file viewer was educational.  I
       expect that using the F.B template provided GIoF with a handy and
       intuitive way to place such helpful data on their product.

   This brings us to the organization, i.e. directory structure, of SB.
   There are no less than 72 directories on SB.  Some 52 of them are
   apparently named after the models whose scans are contained therein.
   There are also 14 directories with the name "DUOnn_mm" where "nn" is
   01-14 and mm is a serial number.  Twelve of those directories
   uniformly contain scans of two women together (01-12).  Two contain
   scans of one man and one woman together (13-14).  There are three
   directories, MISC, TRIO, and 24BIT that also contain scans.  MISC
   seems to have been where GIoF decided to dump a few scans (18) that
   otherwise didn't have a home.  TRIO has 10 scans of two women and one
   man.  24BIT is where the 237 Targa files are located.

   More Operations to follow...


... ebius tagline. This is a moebius tagline. This is a mo ...
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4116
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  7:05p
Subj: Review: Southern Beauties 3/5           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   Operations (Part 2)
   ===================

   Finally, there are three supporting directories: HELP, UTILITY, and
   VPIC.  The HELP directory has some nice text files that any user
   would find useful, including descriptions of the pre-configured
   versions of VPIC that are included on SB.  One flaw that was
   discovered: One of these files describes the installation and
   configuration of CSHOW.  There is no version of CSHOW on the CD that
   I could find - and I looked pretty hard. Otherwise, these files are
   welcome and helpful.

   The VPIC directory contains 40+ pre-configured versions of VPIC
   version 6.0g. VPIC is a popular image file viewer.  These are
   shareware versions and the user is encouraged to register the one he
   after a short trial period.

   The UTILITY directory is a bit curious.  It contains AAPLAY and
   GRASPRT, two programs for viewing so-called "animated" files in .FLI
   and .GL formats, respectively.  Since SB has no such files of either
   type on it, why are these "players" here?  This directory also has a
   usable text file viewer if you're in need of one.

   Installation of SB is quite straight forward.  If the instructions on
   the inside cover of the jewel case are followed, you will likely end
   up with at least a usable system, if not an optimal one.  That
   procedure will default to the use of a VESA-configured version of
   VPIC (VPIC_43 on your dance card) which worked well with my S3-based
   setup.  However, after reading the HELP directory files, I tried the
   included version of WHICHVGA which (a) couldn't identify my video
   board and therefore (b) promptly locked the system up to the point of
   requiring a cold boot to restart.  A pretty unreasonale response just
   because it didn't know the answer, if you ask me.  I did find three
   other usable versions of VPIC (i.e. besides the dafaulted _43
   version) in this directory.  All seemed to work very well for me with
   the exception of generating a slide show of Targa files. (Note: slide
   shows of the Targa files is only available while running VPIC
   "native". ROM_MENU won't tag non-GIF files for slide show viewing.)
   Only the left half of the first Targa image was displayed but all
   other images were displayed normally.  When VPIC was subsequently
   terminated, COMMAND.COM would not/could not be reloaded and the
   computer had to be cold-started.  Nonetheless, all in all, most
   everyone will find all they need to run and enjoy the scans on SB
   with minimum problems in this directory.

   For you Targa fans, there was one additional incident that's worth
   reporting: I found four .TIF files: DUO01_05, DUO02_06, DUO03_02, and
   HOLLY_01 that caused my favorite viewer GDS to immediately abort
   execution and take me back to the DOS prompt.  These files were fully
   viewable with VPIC_43, however.  GDS did this once before with one of
   the "swimsuit" CDs.  I guess it's super-picky about Targa formats of
   headers, or something.  For the remainder of the Targa files, GDS
   displayed them with unusual rapidity. They each "painted" quickly and
   continuously and very smoothly on the screen - the access light on my
   Sony 7205 staying on constantly.  I've never seen it do that before!

   As for the user interface, those familiar with the CDMENU interface
   from Ecstasy or Busty Babes will be right at home.  GIoF calls their
   interface ROM_MENU, but if it's not a clone of CDMENU, it so close to
   being one as to not to matter.  Usability-wise, this is a decent,
   non-GUI (i.e. text-based) interface.  Ease of navigation is its
   strongest point plus it can be used with any CD, not just SB.

   Visual to follow...


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4117
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  7:08p
Subj: Review: Southern Beauties 4/5           Refer: NONE
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   Visual (Part 1)
   ===============

   NOTICE:  This part of the review is quite long.  If you're not using
   an offline reader, you might consider downloading this message to
   save connect time.

   This area deals with the intrinsic qualities of the scans on the CD
   being reviewed.  It is the most subjective area in the evaluation, so
   once again remember, what follows is one person's opinion.  This is
   also the area that I've decided to add or at least call out
   separately, certain qualities or the lack thereof, which I will call
   "production values".

   The production values of SB are quite high.  To begin, the jewel box
   has beautiful full-color inserts both front and back, with the front
   cover insert being two-sided.  As an added bonus, the images on the
   inserts are true WYSIWYG - What You See Is What You Get - the
   pictures thus shown are also scans on the CD.  A delightful change
   from some adult material advertising!  Secondly, the installation
   procedures, as previously mentioned, will result in a usable
   configuration for most folks.  If one isn't over-anxious to see all
   the pretty ladies, a browse through the text files in the HELP
   directory will be helpful in setting up a perhaps more optimized
   configuration, and it was a nice touch by GIoF to provide that
   capability.

   Secondly, a great number of the scans are FULL SCREEN in size.  Oh,
   what a welcome sight!  Thank you GIoF! Those that aren't truly full
   screen are either full screen in height or width, with the other
   dimension being well-proportioned.  In short, there's NO lack of
   eyewash on this CD, and no need to squint or "zoom in".  Other
   producers take note: The standard in this regard has been forever
   raised.

   Thirdly, being a truly new production, there are NO BBS ads on any of
   the scans.  In fact, there's only a small, unobtrusive line at the
   bottom of most scans giving a copyright notice.  (You missed a few
   GIoF, but not to worry.)

   The quality of the scans in SB is, in general, very high.  I have
   some "constructive suggestions" to make later on, but for now, let's
   concentrate on the positive. To begin, let there be no mistake, the
   women of SB are gorgeous!  Not only that, but they all seem to know
   it and are damn proud of it, thank you very much!  If you're a
   sighted, heterosexual male (i.e. a card-carrying member of SB's
   targeted audience), and you subscribe to the mainstream of thinking
   about what represents feminine pulchritude, you're sure to find at
   least one, and probably several, "Fantasy Lovers" on this CD. If you
   can't, you're either one sexually burned out puppy, or you lied about
   meeting the above criteria.

   Other welcome amenities are, for example, models that are
   professionally made up, including attentions to detail like manicured
   fingernails; the use of new/fresh props and sets; etc.  GIoF
   obviously paid a LOT of attention to the production of this CD, and
   it shows.

   A few comments about the DUO and TRIO directories' scans: The scans
   in both of these (sets of) directories stop short of showing any
   actual physical contact save touching.  In this respect, they're
   somewhat similar to the scans in Volcano - "close but no cigar".  The
   DUO01 through DUO12 directories are strictly Sapphic, with DUO11 by
   far being the most tender and tastefully done.  DUO12 is a close
   second in this regard.  DUO13 and DUO14 are M/F with DUO14 being the
   "hotter" of the two - but again, no direct contact other than
   caressing is visible.

   Now for the flip side: Those of you whom have read some of my other
   reviews of adult CDs know that I always have a few captious (some
   might say nit-picking) remarks to made.  I don't mean to be overly
   critical.  I've never attempted to produce a product such as SB and
   likely never will. I have NO "connections" or obligations to any
   aspect of the adult entertainment industry, and likely never will.
   Therefore, I don't have an axe to grind against any real or imagined,
   present or future competitors.  What I am trying to do is to play
   whatever part I can in raising the standard for such products so that
   we CUSTOMERS get what we pay for and are entitled to receive for our
   hard-earned dollars.  With that said, let's press on...

   The most grievous sin that SB commits (remember, one person's opinion
   only) is that it over uses one particular type of pose.  If you have
   any doubts about the exterior gynecological aspects of the female
   anatomy, SB will cure that deficit in your education to the point of
   almost qualifying you to practice OB/GYN.  While I didn't actually
   count the number of scans that are so oriented, I'm confident that
   they number well into the hundreds. Surely there are other, highly
   erotic ways to pose nude or partially clothed women.  SB does have a
   number of such "alternate" scans - KATIE_21, ANITA_01, ASHTON_17,
   BARBIE_01, CONNIE_03, CHANEL_06, DUSTY_01, PAULA_01, LEXI_05,
   CINDY_01, CRYSTL_04 & _15, PETRA_02 & _04, RANDI_01, SHANEN_02, and
   YVETTE_01 - to name a few.  So the "grievous sin" is one of a lack of
   variety of poses.  I suppose it's expected that such poses belong to
   the "standard set" - and that's OK by me.  I'd just like to see it,
   or any other pose, prevented from becoming mundane.

   Another over-worked theme in SB scans is boots.  I never saw so may
   shots of models wearing thigh-high boots.  Perhaps this is a fetish
   of the photographers (or GIoF), but it got tedious for me after a
   while - especially when I saw boots worn OVER textured hosiery.
   That's like trying to guild the lily and it never works.

   One theme that was definitely UNDER utilized has to do with animals.
   Now before anyone gets their dander up, I'm not talking about sex
   with animals, just the use of small animals as props.  There was
   exactly one scan, SHANEN_04, in which a small white cat can be seen
   in the frame.  This added a touch of softness and sensitivity to the
   scan that was most pleasant and welcome.  I would recommend to GIoF
   and all their peer producers to consider adding at least a few scans
   with similar use of animals.  Personally, I think cats, kittens, and
   rabbits would make excellent props, in the right scene.  Others might
   suggest horses or snakes but I think those creatures would carry a
   different connotation.

   More Visual to follow...


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4118
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  7:18p
Subj: Review: Southern Beauties 5/5           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   Visual (Part 2)
   ===============

   Second on the list of "could've been done better" relates to the
   technical aspects of some of the original exposures.  There are
   several scans that exhibit photographic flaws that are serious enough
   to detract from one's viewing pleasure.  Of such flaws, three types
   stand out: lighting, focus, and framing.

       Lighting:  While there are a number of alfresco scans, the vast
       majority are studio shots, or at least made indoors.  The
       studio/indoor shots are the subject here.  Several, more than I
       would have liked to have seen, exhibit "washout" - the result of
       having the lighting too close to the subject, or of it being too
       harsh, or poorly positioned.  This causes some parts of the
       subject to be too bright (look washed out) while others are
       either correctly exposed or are too dark and lose detail.  Two
       examples of this type of error are visible in DAISY_04 and
       DUO02_07, but there are others.

       A second lighting problem centers around what are called "catch
       lights".  Catch lights are the reflections of a light source in a
       subject's eyes.  Ideally, there should be exactly one catch light
       in each eye of the subject (e.g. HOLLY_01).  No catch light may
       make the subject appear to be blind in that eye (e.g. JODEE_01);
       two or more catch lights tend to make the subject look a bit
       cross-eyed (e.g. AMBER_01).  Several of SB's images fall prey
       to this "Photography 101" mistake.

       Focus:  It seems evident that most if not all of the original
       exposures were made with either a 35mm or a roll film camera.
       There's certainly nothing wrong with this approach, but it can
       present challenges for maintaining sharpness (depth of field) in
       certain situations.  Some of SB's scans fell victim to these
       traps. Examples are CINDY_13, JENNA_01, and CHANEL_03 & _04.  It
       usually happens when a subject is framed "in the long dimension",
       like from the feet shooting towards the head of a person.
       Without careful attention, only parts of the subject will be
       rendered in sharp focus.  Sometimes this is OK when a particular
       effect is desired; ususally it's not OK and detracts from the
       image.

       Framing:  This is potentially the most serious of these three
       types of technical errors.  The human eye/brain can forgive or
       ignore to some degree lighting or focus errors, but when
       something's in the scene that shouldn't be there, that's hard to
       overlook.  In SB's case, a few scans are awkward in appearance.
       For example, if the bottom of a shoe looms ominously in the
       foreground, or the woman looks as if she were trained as an
       contortionist and is posed very accordingly and looking quite
       unnatural, then asthetic appeal suffers.  Some examples of these
       flubs are SHAE_03, ANGEL_14, _15, & _19; CINDY_06, and CRISSY_05.

       Of special note, to me, in the "unusual framed" category are
       CINDY_07, CINDY_22, and CRISSY_09.  I puzzled more over why the
       photograph was framed the way it was than paid attention to the
       image.  The horn in CINDY_07 was particularly curious.  Perhaps
       my prior training as a photographer is my own special albatross
       here, and others wouldn't see the issue.  So be it.

   Moving from the photographic side to the electronic imaging side,
   some of SB's images showed dark striations in the frame.  These are
   most noticeable in the darker areas of the frame.  They do not appear
   in all scans.  I would speculate that these are a by-product of the
   scanning process, but I don't really know. Examples are ALITA_01, &
   _03; APRIL_09; and ANGEL_09.

   There are a couple of other missed cues, but they are really getting
   to the nit-picking stage: CINDY_25 appears to have a stain on the
   original transparency; the KATIE_02 transparency was reversed
   left-to-right during scanning (note clock).  The color balance in
   DEBRA_07, CINDY_25, and CINDY_27 is wrong.  While I'm taking the time
   to call these flaws out, it should be noted that these are pretty
   trivial errors.  I guess it's the perfectionist in me.

   Bottom line:  SB is a winner. If you don't have need for a BBS-able
   CD, and don't want the XXX stuff (tho' some scans in DUO13 & 14 and
   TRIO come pretty close), SB will knock your socks off with LARGE
   images of beautiful women in beautiful poses. (I fell in love, or at
   least lust, several times!)  To use a baseball metaphor, SB is an
   extra base hit - at least a triple for sure.  Correct a few things,
   add a GUI like SHOWOFF, and you'd have an out-of-the-park home run.
   Nonetheless, SB raises the ante for adult CDs considerably.  It has
   so much right going for it that its "positives" overwhelm its
   "negatives".  Truly, the main fault that I find with the CD,
   apparent fixation on one type of pose, others might find to be it's
   strongest suit - and that's A-OK.  This is the CD that Digital
   Dreams (Ero Tek) and Giffy Gold were trying to be, but failed by a
   wide margin. If you liked either one of them, plop down your money
   and get SB. BTW: Add a seat belt to the chair in front of your PC
   before you start - you'll need it!


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From: WILLIAM DUPREE                         Number: 4119
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/28/93  2:27p
Subj: Weekly cd specials                      Refer: NONE
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From: ED JUNE                                Number: 4120
  To: KEN TULLY                                Date: 08/29/93  6:08p
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROMS                            Refer: NONE
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How is your CD gonna differ from the Walnut Creeks offering?
A 'front end'?
Hmm...


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From: ED JUNE                                Number: 4121
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 08/29/93  6:18p
Subj: Re: New Echo - Multimedia               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ismail Arslangiray wrote in a message to Scott Mcknight:

>>I have started a new echo area called MULTIMEDIA
> Are you looking for links to get backbone status?  I'll be interested if
> if you are.
IA> Hi Scott,
IA> There is enough interest to get it qualified for backbone
IA> status. BTW, vendors are also welcome!..After echo will get
IA> going, I will give up the moderator status to another
IA> individual who may have more time. TTYL

PLEASE let us all know when it hits the backbone, eh?


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From: ED JUNE                                Number: 4122
  To: CRAIG EDON                               Date: 08/29/93  6:33p
Subj: OS/2 CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Craig Edon wrote in a message to Boris Osadciw:

BO> Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
BO>  rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
BO>  line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.

CE> Isn't the rebate only for registered users of 2.0?


Yes!
You MUST send in your old proof of license from version 2.0



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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 4123
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/29/93 10:29a
Subj: Disks for sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HI!!!  How about that Indiana Jones game?  How much do I send and where do I
send  my Money?

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 4124
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 08/29/93 10:32a
Subj: Seventh Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello there,  you have seventh guest for sale? I would like to buy it from you.
I don't have anygames YET for my CD rom and would like to buy it from you.
PLeasse Please,  I  saw it in Radio Shack up here and saw how good it was
please PLease PLease How much do you want and where do I send?

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4125
  To: MIKE KIRKPATRICK                         Date: 08/29/93 10:18p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > That CD-Rom is Already available To Purchase.

Don't understand this message? I am trying to trade the CD of Busty Babes for a
CD player. If this is what you want contact me at 512-939-9822     Thanks
                                        Pat

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 4126
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/16/93  2:25a
Subj: CD-Rom List                             Refer: NONE
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MC>MG>  Hello Mark.  Yes I would like the list of "ALL" the CD's your carry.
MC>MG>  Please mail to:
MC>MG>                  Max Green
MC>MG>                  399 Westmeade Dr
MC>MG>                  Gretna, LA. 70056

MC> We'll send you one as soon as possible.  Thanks for replying.

MC>                                               Mark
MC>--- FreeMail 1.08b
MC> * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
Mark,
         Please send me a catalog of all cd titles at:
        Sam Figueroa
        Sam's Software
        Rt 2 Box 2453-A
        Manchester, TN 37355


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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 4127
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/16/93  2:50a
Subj: CD ROM Drives                           Refer: NONE
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MS>BC>    I saw your ad for CD's in this echo.  Do you carry Drives as well?  I
MS>yo
MS>BC>do I am interested in a 3 or 4 stand alone type for a BBS.  Can ya help?

MS>Bruce,

MS>Sorry, but I haven't found that extra 6 or 7 hours a day I need to delve
MS>into hardware!  8)  I only stock CD's right now, which is OK for me
MS>because I like to concentrate on one area if I can.  Try Boris or Ismail
MS>in this echo.  They both have excellent prices on drives.

MS>Later,
MS>.\\ike

MS>---
MS> * SLMR 2.1a * Hello, I am Mike and I am a baudaholic.

MS>--- MMGR +Plus+ v3.00
MS> * Origin: Threshold of Origin 509-453-3283 Home of The Chat DOOR (1:3407/10
 Mike,
        What cd would you reccomend that have alot of .MODS, .VOCS, and
        other sounds, also do you have any that have lots of visual
        stuff as well as audio!
                                      Thanks,
                                         Sam Figueroa


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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 4128
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 08/30/93  2:26p
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
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DH> > Hey .\\ike, I was charged $88 for Precision Mapping, what gives?  I
DH> > also
DH> > notice NightOwl 9.0 is going for $25 and I was charged $28.  Could
DH> > you
DH> > send me two CD Caddies and we call it even?

DH>You've been ripped off, rush down and call the BBB right away <G>.

Yep and Mike hasn't replied yet......   Screw the BBB, I'm going to the
President!!!  I ought to get something for my tax increase :{)
By the way UPS (Unclaimed Parcal Service) didn't send my disc to you did
they? They seem to have a problem with addresses around here.  Who
knows, may be in Peru for all I know.

Moderator, sorry for being off topic.

                 Ty.

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4129
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 08/29/93  1:06a
Subj: Disks for sale                          Refer: NONE
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Is the 20th Century Almanac Price Negotable?

Thanks!

                       -Jason

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From: PAT RILEY                              Number: 4130
  To: JASON SCHWARTZ                           Date: 08/29/93  5:57a
Subj: PC-SIG                                  Refer: NONE
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Has anyone had any experience with the PC-SIG company? They've sent me 2
fliers within the last coupla months that sound like good deals. One is
for "New Windows CD-ROM: only $19.95" and the other is for "New Games
CD-ROM **$19.95**"  If anyone's dealt with them before, please let me
know what your experiences have been. BTW, their address is 1030D East
Duane Avenue; Sunnycale, CA 94086 and I know that's legit because I've
verified it through another CD w/ business directories on it.

Jason...

They are extremely reputable.
You can probably buy their discs cheaper through a dealer here in this
conference if you look around.  Try Mike at Starvector.

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From: ROBERT LEDERMAN                        Number: 4131
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  8:19a
Subj: ADAM Anatomy CD                         Refer: NONE
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Does anyone know how to get a hold of the "ADAM" anatomy teaching system
for Windows on CD?    It is supposed to be a spectacular tutorial
intended for medical students.

Thanks for the help,
RJL
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From: ROBERT LEDERMAN                        Number: 4132
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  8:20a
Subj: Oxford English Dictionary               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Does anybody have the complete Oxford English Dictionary on CD?
How is it?
How big is it?
Where did you buy it?

Would anybody sell it to me cheap?
Thanks
RJL
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From: MIKE MCCUE                             Number: 4133
  To: YVES DESJARDINS                          Date: 08/29/93  9:12a
Subj: CD for trade...                         Refer: NONE
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-> Sorry, but I already have this CD.

Thats cool.. What kind of price are you looking for on it again?

Mike


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 4134
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/29/93  1:26p
Subj: Thanks                                  Refer: NONE
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Hello Mike!

Thanks for that last disc you send over here!  What a spread!!!

Later,

Dave


... Friends don't let friends vote democratic!

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From: AL JAMES                               Number: 4135
  To: DAVID MOORE @ 910/114                    Date: 08/29/93 10:21a
Subj: Re: 2 ROMS FOR SALE                     Refer: NONE
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DM@9>         Tell me about the Terrorist group profile CD...

It is a cd of extensive infromation on various terrorist groups around the
world.  It has a great search engine, it even details the particular actions,
bombings,or highjackings...etc., that a group has done.  It goes into what the
group is striving to achive...Who is funding the groups...even goes as far as
showing the pictures in color of course of leaders of these groups.  It is dos
based. That is about it in a nutshell.

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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 4136
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/29/93 10:35a
Subj: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39!                     Refer: NONE
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CJ>                "Kings Quest VI is not just EXELENT, its a LANDMARK CJ>
          GAME."
CJ>                        Just to add.. the price for this is CJ>
          APPROX 70.00.
CJ>                I recomend that you team up with Sierra and get this CJ>
           on your price list.  maybe even at discounted prices.. CJ>
     this game is well... FAR Beyond 7th
CJ> Guest.. even though
CJ>                I would recomend it..  anyways... see if you can get CJ>
           KINGS QUEST VI CD ROM VER.  It'll sell SO fast.. I'll CJ>
    PROMISE you that..

 MS> Well Chris, we have the King's Quest VI's in stock and selling now
 MS> at $47 if you're interested.  If you don't have one yet, talk to me!

 MS> Later,
 MS> .\\ike



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From: MIKE CICCOLINI                         Number: 4137
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  6:18a
Subj: Question about CD-ROM?                  Refer: NONE
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To all you experts out there,

 I own a Sound Blaster, (not the PRO but the 1.5 non-stereo) and
 was wondering if I bought a CD-ROM would installation be smooth
 or would there be some problems with finding drivers or some
 other compatibility problems. I have been told that it would
 be better if I sold my SBlaster and bought a multi-media kit.
 I'd rather not do that if I can use my own SBlaster.
 Thanks for any advice!!!


                                        Mike ~Chic~
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From: MICHAEL INGRAM                         Number: 4138
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/29/93  6:42a
Subj: Pioneer DMR600                          Refer: NONE
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Hey there Boris...

Rumor has it you would be the man to talk to about obtaining a
CD Changer from...I dont know a thing about setting that model up.
I currently run 2 single roms on my bbs and wanna move up to
"MORE DOWNLOADS!" <G>,  anyways...

Leave me a message on how to get a "complete" package for under
DOS.  I am currently running a standard ISA system and would need a
controller accordingly...

I would also be intrested in any used units if they are available...
Wouldnt have to be Pioneer...Just Complete Package and hold a
lotta cd's!

Thanks....
Michael Ingram

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From: SHARI DOMKE                            Number: 4139
  To: IAN LEVSTEIN                             Date: 08/29/93  2:51a
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Ian Levstein dated 08-25-93 ***
> >Has the Encylopedia Britannica been released on CD yet?
>
> No, and there apparently are no plans to do so for the indefinite
> future....
>
But The Software Toolworks MultiMedia Encyclopedia is out......Might be worth
looking into......

                                    Shari


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From: J. ALLEN                               Number: 4140
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 08/29/93  8:30p
Subj: Re: Still available                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JA> I have the following CD-ROM disks for sale or possible swaps.  All disks
JA> DO NOT RESPOND IN THIS ECHO!!  Direct E-mail offers to 1:2201/13
MK>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
MK>     This is the CDROM_SALE, I *WILL* reply here.  If you do not want offers
MK> in this echo, then DO NOT POST in this echo.  Now, on to business.
MK>
JA>  5.00   MEDLINE                 Medline Database
JA>  5.00   LAW LIBRARY             Social Law Library
MK>
MK>     Tell me a little more about these disks and you may have a sale.

Not saying you can't post here Michael, but since I hardly read this echo
everyday I will miss many that do.....Get it?  I am not sure though why you
chose to exercise your right to post in this case as my ad clearly
stated that $25.00 was the minimum I would accept.  I do not want to
bother packing and mailing a $5.00 disk........Regardless, both those disks
are gone.

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From: J. ALLEN                               Number: 4141
  To: MICHAEL CROSSON                          Date: 08/30/93 12:03p
Subj: Re: Jem Disk CD-Rom Trade In Sale       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MC> Send us your old CD-Rom (in good condition) and $14.95 and we'll send
MC> you Jem Disc I shareware CD-Rom collection.  Jem Disc was printed last
MC> fall and contains many timeless files.  Due to it's super selection of
MC> BBS related files, it's a must for all sysops!  Integration with bbs
MC> software is EZ!

MC> The current price without trade in is $19.95 plus S/H so this deal
MC> represents a savings of $10.  HURRY - offer ends 9/15/93!

                   DDDDcurrent price      $19.95
               tade-in priceDDDDDDDDDDDDrade-in price
                                 ----------
               Savings            $ 5.00DDDDDD $CCCC
               S/H savings on JEM  $5.00
                                  -------
                 Sub Total        $10.00

A              S/H on old trade   -($5.00)
                                  -------

A             Grand Total Savings  $5.00    <----

I come up with $5.00.  How do you get to $10.00 savings?

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4142
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 08/29/93  8:47p
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
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DH> > Hey .\\ike, I was charged $88 for Precision Mapping, what gives?  I
DH> > also
DH> > notice NightOwl 9.0 is going for $25 and I was charged $28.  Could
DH> > you
DH> > send me two CD Caddies and we call it even?

DH>You've been ripped off, rush down and call the BBB right away <G>.

And you've made a false accusation.  Rush down and call the Enquirer
right away . . . they may have a job opening for you. <G>

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4143
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  8:47p
Subj: UPDATED CD PRICE LIST 1/2               Refer: NONE
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 **************************************************************************
 September 1993          DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 8/29
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00
 5-Star Premium Windows........27.00    Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....58.00
 7th Guest.....................45.00    Microsoft Musical Instruments.57.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    MIDI Music Shop...............27.00
 American Business Phonebk 92..19.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 American Business Phonebk 93..39.00    Monarch Notes.................59.00
 Amiga AB20....................15.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00    Monster Disc 2-Pak (92/93!)...38.50
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Monster Media 93 (New!).......33.00
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......23.00    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....25.50    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 Arizona Images (New!).........30.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....24.00
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    National Business Directory...29.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Barney Bear Goes to Space.....20.00    National Parks................29.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    Night Owl 4.1.................20.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 8.0.................25.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....29.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    Night Owl 8/9 2-Pak...........49.00
 Business Master...............20.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    North American Fax Book.......39.00
 California Collection.........17.00    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Canadian Shareware (New!).....22.00    Original Shareware............10.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    OtherWare (Amiga & Mac S/W)...19.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    Our Solar System..............13.00
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 CD Winbox (New!)..............25.00    PC-SIG #12....................26.00
 CD Grab Bag Disc..............19.00    PC-SIG #13 (Pre-orders).......39.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    PC Gameroom...................27.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Pentomino.....................32.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phoenix 3.0 ($6 w/ any order).13.00
 Clipart Galore................28.00    Phonedisc USA (New!)..........69.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 2........................33.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........25.00    Pier 3 (Pre-orders)...........39.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Composer Quest................34.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....15.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency....97.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......79.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....66.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........115.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....66.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........33.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........29.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........27.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Crossword Cracker.............24.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Q&A 4.0.......................39.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    Reader's Library..............28.50
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Reel Clips (New!).............44.00
 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50    Reference Library.............27.50
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Return to the Moon (New!).....36.00
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...42.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 DTPro.........................28.50    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 Education Master..............20.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......59.00
 Empire Clipart................26.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Shareware Online 1............25.00

      600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS/OS2 CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4144
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  8:47p
Subj: UPDATED CD PRICE LIST 2/2               Refer: NONE
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Encyclopedia of Sound.........15.00    Shareware Online 2 (New!).....39.00
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Shareware Studio 1............20.00
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......29.00    Shareware Studio 2............25.00
 Find-It Webster...............49.00    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Firearm Reference (New!)......30.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    Sights & Sounds...............25.00
 Font Master 2.................28.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    So Much Shareware 2...........27.00
 Game Master...................20.00    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Software Vault 1..............22.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....24.00
 Gameware Collection (New!)....24.00    Sound Effects Library (New!)..19.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    Sound Works...................19.00
 Giga Games (New!).............26.00    Soundware Collection (New!)...27.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    SoundWAV......................25.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Space Quest IV................24.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Grolier's STW Ill. Ency. 2.0..35.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Grolier's STW MM Ency. 5.0....45.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Grolier's STW MPC Ency. 1.5...47.50    Street Atlas USA..............86.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Super CD 2....................25.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....16.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........28.00    Super Games For Windows.......16.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.00
 House of Games................22.50    Technotools...................13.00
 Illustrated Holy Bible........47.00    Tempra Access Photo Software..25.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....45.00    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Total Baseball................27.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    Trump Castle..................28.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. & World Atlas............25.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 King's Quest V................24.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 King's Quest VI (New!)........47.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........23.50    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    U.S. Wars: WWII...............34.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    Up All Night Shareware (New!).17.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    VGA Spectrum 1................14.00
 Lion's Share..................22.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 Loom..........................19.00    Visions of Saturn.............23.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...39.00    Vital Signs...................45.00
 Mac Shareware (New!)..........24.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........35.00    Win/OS2.......................12.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Windoware.....................13.00
 Magnum One Shareware..........25.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........25.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Majestic Places...............38.50    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Manhole.......................35.50    World Atlas MPC...............26.50
 Mantis........................24.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    World of Trains...............34.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    World Traveler................15.00
 Mayo Clinic MPC...............28.00    World View....................24.00
 Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00    World Vision 3-Pak............45.00
 Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......56.00    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

      600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS/OS2 CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground ship
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4145
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  8:47p
Subj: UPDATED ADULT CD PRICES                 Refer: NONE
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 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    Nightwatch Interactive (Vid)..49.00
 After Dark Trilogy (Video)....45.00    PC-PIX 1......................30.00
 All Beauties (New!)...........33.00    PC-PIX 2......................30.00
 Amateur Models (New!).........35.00    PC-PIX 3......................30.00
 Animation Fantasies 1.........29.00    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Busty Babes 3.0...............25.00    Porkware 2....................37.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........28.00    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Erotic Encounters 1...........36.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Erotic Encounters 2 (New!)....36.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Girls of Vivid 1 (New!).......45.00    SeXXcapades The Movie (Video).49.00
 Girls of Vivid 2 (New!).......45.00    Seymore Butts Interactive (V).49.00
 Hidden Obsessions (Video).....59.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................29.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................29.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......30.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................29.00    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 5 (New!)..............29.00    Storm 2.......................28.00
 Kama Sutra (Video)............59.00    Storm 3.......................28.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Luscious Ladies (New!)........35.00    Total Fantasy (New!)..........33.50
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 My First Time (Video).........39.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 Mystique of the Orient (Vid)..59.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

      600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS/OS2 CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: GARY KELLISON                          Number: 4146
  To: JAMES HOGUE                              Date: 08/28/93 10:50a
Subj: GREAT CHEAP CD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JH>Would like to recommend a cheap cd IF you run windows and have a Best
JH>Buy store near you.  This week ROM_Material is on sale for $9.97.
JH>It is by the people who make ICON_Hear_It and ICON_See_It.

Wah!  This CD is from Moon Valley Software and cost me $15 at Egghead.
I thought I was getting a good deal 'cause it was $20 at CompUSA.

 * OLX 2.1 TD * .+/o&O=++\]:5+v/f_=f/As>+/E+ahf

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4147
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  4:15p
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

This is the last notice, have the one and only special BB#1.
Will still trade this grat CD that is being sold every where eles for a CD
player (for computer), OR IDE hard drive,
OR a mother board (no less than a 386 DX40), OR simms.
You can reach me at 512-939-9822. (Also need tape backup)
                         Pat

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 4148
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 08/30/93  1:29a
Subj: Re: New Echo - Multimedia               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> There is enough interest to get it qualified for backbone status.
>> BTW, vendors are also welcome!..After echo will get going, I will
>> give up the moderator status to another individual who may have more
>> time. TTYL
> Please let us know when it hits the backbone Ismail....thanks.
Sure!..TTYL

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From: JERRY WEGER                            Number: 4149
  To: JOSEPH THOMAS                            Date: 08/28/93 11:13p
Subj: Mitsumi & Sound Card                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Joe,
appreciate the info- will check it out
regards, Jerry


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From: JERRY WEGER                            Number: 4150
  To: TONY MATA                                Date: 08/28/93 11:15p
Subj: Mitsumi & sound card                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Tony,
much appreciated. I will check out both cards. Sounds likr you got an
excellent price on the Galaxy.
Jerry


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4151
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 08/30/93  2:10a
Subj: Re: LIMITED SUPPLY                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Boris,

>>    don't forget that those cd players are also windows NT
>>    compatable.  am using my 83 with it very nicely, which would
>>    validate the 73 also.  later,


>>    Ed Duchek

Yes, as well as a lot of other nice features as well, that's why all
150 unit's sold in two days. Hopefully we'll have some more come in soon!

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, everything looks the same!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4152
  To: CRAIG EDON                               Date: 08/30/93  2:10a
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    On 08-26-1993, BORIS OSADCIW expounded to all that would
>>    listen, certain words of wisdom concerning OS/2 CD...

BO>> Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
BO>>  rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
BO>>  line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.

>>    Isn't the rebate only for registered users of 2.0?

Not according to what they told us at IBM.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Pioneering Off-line Mail Technology!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4153
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/30/93  2:10a
Subj: Re: U.S. Mail                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>>are received within the two or three day period. Although this is not a
BO>>guareented service, it still works faster and for less the UPS or FED EX.

>>    Yeah, as long as they don't LOSE the darn package, like
>>    they've done with mine several times.  At least with UPS or
>>    Fedex you have automatic insurance coverage.  8)

This is true, but we place insurance on all pakages no matter how small
the amount is. It still cost less and shipping is still faster than
UPS ground.

Boris Osadciw

... Protected Mode Xpress! It's hot!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4154
  To: BILL WOLF                                Date: 08/30/93  2:10a
Subj: Re: Clip Art                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    I'm looking for a CD-ROM full of Clip Art (for like Pagemaker,
>>    MS Word, etc..) as well as a good collection of TrueType fonts.

>>    If anyone knows of any collections such as the above, please
>>    let me know. I'm looking for a collection for a small DTP
>>    business.

Bill, we have several in stock, so please feel free to give us a call
at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll even happy to assist you further.

Some even come with manuals.....

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4155
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  2:10a
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  ))))))))))))))  NEW SHAREWARE CD - SHAREWARE EXPLORER (((((((((((((((((

 4 discs w/over 26,000 files 3 of which are completely DOS based files
 4th disc is completely Windows 3.0/3.1 files w/over 7000 - BBS Ready
 Mostly 1992/1993 files - Less than 1% duplication between the 4 cd's
                            Price - $55.00

         Call us at 800-243-0517 and ORDER YOUR COPY TODAY !!
Or call us at 216-225-3263 anytime for additional information on this
and 500+ other CDROM titles and CDROM systems.


Boris Osadciw

... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4156
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  2:10a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Texel Int 340ms Bare Dr - $245.00 LIMITED Texel Ext 340ms Kit  - $359.00
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $449.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$549.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         NEC36 Ext SCSI Complete-$269.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
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From: CHARLES ROBERTS                        Number: 4157
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93 10:54p
Subj: Cd's For sale                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Desert Storm  $20   Future Wars  $15   Multimedia Mania w/book  $20

     Call [phone] if interested, ask for Gerald

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From: JAMES TOPPER                           Number: 4158
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/29/93  6:08p
Subj: CDROM question                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   Doug, I've been noticing that you post listings for CDORMs on a regular
basis.  I have a question for you... I have an Amiga 3000 that has a CDROM
drive  attached.  Besides that Aminet disk you list, are there any other
CDROMs that I might be able to access?  Things like clip art disks or disks
with ASCII text files on them... just wondering.

                                                   Jim

 * Q-Blue v0.7 *


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From: ERIC MIYAZAWA                          Number: 4159
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93 12:35a
Subj: Cd-rom for sale!                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am selling the updated (latest version) CD-ROM of Multimedia Microsoft Word
for Windows, Bookshelf, Video and Sound.  It normally sells near $600 I
believe, but I'm selling it new, unopened for $275 or best offer! Write back if
interested.


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From: JIM REED                               Number: 4160
  To: TIGER MOSES                              Date: 08/26/93  9:47p
Subj: Cd\upload probs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TM>This actually could be quite simple.
TM>When preparing for an upload, you software needs to know a source of files,
TM>probably checks what all drives are available as sources of files.  When
you
TM>load your drivers for thge CD it becomes a drive (mine is J:) for example.
TM>This status check probably stop the reading (playing music).  It probably
th
TM>simple, hopefully!

Hi Tiger;
        Thanks for the reply.  Your explanation sounds right on - the
        music stops exactly as the upload manager in telix is reading
        the drives.  Now, the next question is can you or anyone suggest
        a solution?  I just went through the entire telix configuration
        looking for something that might solve this and saw nada.  The
        default upload directory is set to C:\DL while the CD is drive
        E so it must be something more than that.  If you can't think of
        anything maybe I'll post this in the telix conf.

                        THanks
                                /JIM/
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From: DAVID HEYDRICK                         Number: 4161
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/30/93  3:43p
Subj: Re: Special Interest                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

}}}}}} On 08-27-93  20:48 Jim said to David {{{{{{
 JL> I have a couple different titles you may be interested in.  Give me a
 JL> call and we can discuss the details.  Both titles sell for $39 each.
 JL>
 JL> Computer Works
 JL> CD-Rom Sales!                                           Jim...

      Jim,
           Now if I can just remember what you are replying to,
           its been some time since I have posted in this Echo.

                                        __David

 JL> [phone] Voice
 JL> [phone] BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders


... She won't last forever, so why buy her a diamond?
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4162
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/30/93  8:52p
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUEAUT                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Great, Mike!  I'll look forward to receiving them.  I've even noticed that
there have been some new titles since I wrote to you!  Gimme a "head's up" if
you want to include the "multimedia" titles - I'll need to run out and get a
sound card.  Otherwise, just stick to the "picture" CDs.

Yes, put me down for a BB when you get some.  I want my collection to be
complete. Cheers!

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From: RICK KOEHL                             Number: 4163
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93  2:12p
Subj: Al-Qadim                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Greetings, All!
        This is quite a busy conference.  The mail is extraordinary.  I don't
see how it could all be read even daily in a practical means.  I must assume
that whoever reads this has found it by its subject and are therefore
interested in Al-Qadim.  The only way one could weed their way through all
this is by following a string and I decided to start an Al-Qadim string.
        Now that one has been started, I have been a DM for 13 years, and have
maqnage a Play By E-Mail campaign before, and I am willing to start another
one here if at least four people show a willingness to participate as PCs.
The particular adventure I would run would resemble Sinbad of the Seven Seas.
        As a side note, if anyone wishes to consult the experience of a player
from way back - I am 33, married with a son, and part of a group of players
who each have as many years as I in the world's greatest game.
        Hope to hear from you soon!
Rick Koehl, A.K.A. Mystic Warrior!
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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 4164
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/30/93 11:59a
Subj: CD-ROM MASTER LIST 1/2                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HI Mike,  OK.  I'll call you voice probabbly before you get this message... Or
I guess if you don't get a call you'll have my money order in two weeks,  I
guess I'll call you first though,

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4165
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  4:13p
Subj: Review of Southern Beauties             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ADDENDUM:
I forgot to mention in my review that the 237 Targa files are duplicates  of
GIF files found in other directories. This has the effect of lowering  the
number of UNIQUE image files to 766. Personally, I didn't find this  all that
significant because the Targa files serve to give the user an  accurate
comparison of 256 colors vs. so-called "true color". Unlike the  Targa files on
Pork-Ware 1 which showed little difference with 256-color  conversions of the
same file, SB's 24-bit files are noticeably better  than their corresponding
256-color twins. This may be because the GIF  files lack something, but I think
a better explanation is that the 24-bit  files have something extra.  In any
event, I wanted to set the record  straight. If you like to fool with 24-bit
color, copy one of the Targa  files to you rHDD and have at it - just don't
violate the GIoF copyright  by sending it somewhere else. Ciao!
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: SIR ARIOCH                             Number: 4166
  To: MARK CLARDY                              Date: 08/31/93  4:20a
Subj: CD-list                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   I was wondering if I too can get a catalog sent, I am desperately looking
for ShareWare and Adult CDs for my BBS...The address is

                    Kelley Wright
                    6100 Oakland Hills Dr. #714
                    Ft.Worth Tx  76112

Thank you..

Kelley Wright


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From: GARY KIMBRELL                          Number: 4167
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/31/93 12:33a
Subj: RE: Info Needed                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> You were well informed.  8)  We have over 325 titles now in stock at very
> decent prices, with new material arriving daily.  If you would like a copy
> of our updated catalog, you can freq STARCAT.ZIP from 1:3407/101, or
> download it from our BBS @ 509-457-0206.  If there are any questions I
> can answer for you, don't hesitate to call our voice line @ 509-457-2892.
>
> Later,
> .\\ike

Mike,

 Glad that I got ahold of you about those CD's. Thanks for warning me about
the ADULT CD's that are not BBS.ready. You might want to include that
statement next to the CD's that you post. Again looking forward to the CD's
and doing business with you again. I will FREQ the STARCAT.ZIP later
tonight.

Gary
NEC3657

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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 4168
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  8:57a
Subj: Night Owl's Graphics!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: [phone]
        $39.00         International 314-521-4862     $39.00
                     NEW NIGHT OWL'S GRAPHICS DISK!

Night Owl's Graphics Disk has just been released.  Everyone has been
waiting for a new graphics disk for their bbs or personal collection...
and here you are!  This is over 600 megs of the finest GIF photos
available on the market today!

     - Completely BBS ready!
     - MANY MANY MANY HI-REZ GIFS
     - Complete descriptions
     - Built in Search/Retrieve and viewing capabilities
     - NO ADULT FILES (Actually... nothing even "R")

                                   $39.00

                         Don't miss this one folks!
                           IN STOCK AND SHIPPING!
*********************************************************************
   VISA          1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M        MASTERCARD
                   ---- 100s of Titles Available ----



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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 4169
  To: PAUL ELLIOTT                             Date: 09/01/93  4:09p
Subj: News, Weather and Sports                Refer: 7471
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Sysops, You Can Now Carry Current News on Your BBS. For .50 per Day.
-> All News is updated each morning. In depth, accurate articles from se
-> international sources.

Paul, this is the CDROM_SALE echo...

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 4170
  To: TIM SCHOOLER                             Date: 09/01/93  4:22p
Subj: Related ?                               Refer: 7537
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->  JS> Related ?
->
->  JS> Jim Schooler
->  JS> 1:102/910
->
-> Sent you netmail Jim, did you get it ?

Please don't use this echo to exchange personal mail...

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 4171
  To: MARK LONG                                Date: 09/01/93  4:24p
Subj: Re: Pro-Phone 93 Crosspos               Refer: 7542
Read: NO                                    Private: No

-> Thanks for the warning.  I was going to get it but I cant see how it
-> do what it advertises.  The company I work for uses the commercial NY
-> disk system.  But its just for the east coast.  However, its based on
-> cdroms that are the size of video laser disks.  Its accurate but expe

For $100.00 Prophone is a hell of a buy... If it was 100% accurate, none
of us could afford it!

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 4172
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/01/93  4:32p
Subj: Review: Southern Beauties               Refer: 7567
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->    and get SB. BTW: Add a seat belt to the chair in front of your PC
->    before you start - you'll need it!

Good job, Bob...

tim
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From: TIM HELTON                             Number: 4173
  To: RICK KOEHL                               Date: 09/01/93  4:41p
Subj: Al-Qadim                                Refer: 7612
Read: NO                                    Private: No

->         This is quite a busy conference.  The mail is extraordinary.
-> see how it could all be read even daily in a practical means.  I must
-> that whoever reads this has found it by its subject and are therefore
-> interested in Al-Qadim.  The only way one could weed their way throug

That's a pretty smooth lead in... One of the reasons why this echo is so
popular is because everyone stays on topic.  You need to do the same.

tim
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4174
  To: JERRY MURPHY                             Date: 08/30/93  8:47p
Subj: FLD                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <08-24-93 11:34> Jerry Murphy wrote:

JM>> It's amazing how much more headway you can make when you stop
JM>> dragging a sea anchor around.  Carry on!

....and boy are we :)

JM>> The various registration slips I've sent you have still not resulted
JM>> in a mailing back to me.  This is a "heads up" that another is
JM>> underway.

Don't have specifics yet, because we are working on 3 projects at the same
time--You should be hearing from us in the next 3 weeks or so--

Busty Babes Vol II is on the drives--She will be released in the market in
September--

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4175
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 08/30/93  8:50p
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <08-23-93 08:23> Mark Walker wrote:

MW>>  LN> SHOWOFF is our baby now in this industry, and you will see
MW>>  LN>     her on our 2 disc's coming out in September--

MW>> Some details please ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^???

Whatcha' want to know, and I will fill your ears :)

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4176
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 08/30/93 10:17p
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <08-24-93 04:04> Mark Walker wrote:

MW>> Are these all going to be BBS ready? If so, can ya speed up the
MW>> release  schedule <grin>?

Texas Glamour and Passion will be BBS ready, and we are negotiating for BB II
for the sysops--The BB V II is up in the air and leaning towards 'No" but thats
only the first round-Maybe I can get a "yes"--I hate not getting my way:)

BB V II will be released in September for sure--The covers are being done as we
speak.

The others are for Oct-Dec releases--

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4177
  To: MARK WALKER                              Date: 08/30/93 11:22p
Subj: Re: X Movie Review CD                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <08-24-93 04:04> Mark Walker wrote:

MW>> Are these all going to be BBS ready? If so, can ya speed up the
MW>> release  schedule <grin>?

Busty Babes Vol II, will be licensed collections and we just got the 'Okay' to
allow them to be BBS ready for the sysops (learning curve for
photographers)--This disc is 1,000 images, original slides, superb scanning
(only because we had a Fortune 500 company do it), and the cover is sure to be
a favorite amongst the connessieurs <sp>--Our best yet. We cut *NO* corners,
and continue to strive to be the best we can be.

We expect it to go to press by 15 September---We are giving sysop pricing's as
we promised in several interviews at BBScon '93--

Call and reserve yours now--

Lion's Den International, Inc.

[phone] Voice
[phone] Fax

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: HAWKEYE                                Number: 4178
  To:                                          Date: 08/31/93  1:50a
Subj: cd's                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

to all
would not mind that cd Street Atlas, but you'll have to come down a little on
price, look around a little.........


?

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From: ZACHARY HAMM                           Number: 4179
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/28/93 10:28a
Subj: MS WORKS FOR SALE                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

FOR SALE

Microsoft Works for Windows on CD-ROM!!  1993 Multimedia version.
Includes Word Processor, Spreadsheet and Database.  Sorry, no
documentation available.


$75.00
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From: STEPHEN DURFEE                         Number: 4180
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/31/93 12:35a
Subj: <><> CD-ROM SOFTWARE - LOW PRICES <><>  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

            <<<<<<< Allegro Computer Services >>>>>>

                    Raleigh, North Carolina
                    Tel: [phone] (24 hours)
                    Fax: [phone] (24 hours)
                    Internet: [e-mail]
                    CompuServe: 71155,2711
                    POC: Stephen Durfee

* Your mail-order software source
* Optional installation and on-site delivery  (Raleigh area)
* LOW prices - contact us on your next inquiry
* Other services available:

  (International) Resumes
  (Raleigh)       Hardware Repair, Network Installation, etc.

PLEASE CALL, FAX OR E-MAIL FOR LATEST PRICES AND MEDIA/VERSION INFORMATION.
LEGITIMATE QUOTES FROM OTHER DEALERS ARE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

                Sample Software Product List
                ----------------------------

** SALE on integrated packages such as Microsoft Office. **
         **  See INTEGRATED section for prices. **

ACCOUNTING & FINANCE

DacEasy Accounting 4.3 (DOS)            $  93
Money 2.0 (WIN)                            23
Peachtree Complete 7.0 (DOS)              184
Quicken 2.0 (WIN)                          41
Quicken 6.0 (DOS)                          43
Quicken Business Pack (DOS)                56

BUSINESS GRAPHICS

CA-Cricket Paint (WIN)                     89
CA-Cricket Presents 1.5 (WIN)              89
Freelance Graphics 2.01 (WIN)             349
Harvard Graphics 1.00 (WIN)               373
Harvard Graphics 3.0 (DOS)                419
Powerpoint 3.0 (WIN)                      323
WordPerfect Presentation (DOS)            301

COMMUNICATIONS

Carbon Copy 6.1 (2 node) (DOS)            132
Laplink Pro 5.0 (DOS)                     111
PC Anywhere 1.0 (2 node) (WIN)            132
Procomm Plus 1.02 (WIN)                   100
Procomm Plus 2.01 (DOS)                    73
Winfax Pro 3.0 (WIN)                       85

DATABASE

Access 1.1 (WIN)                          324
CA-Clipper 5.2 (DOS)                      495
CA-Db Fast 2.0 (WIN)                      184
dbase IV 2.0   (DOS)                      540
Filemaker Pro 2.0 (WIN)                   124
Foxpro 2.5 (WIN)                          320
Paradox 1.0 (WIN)                         133
Paradox 4.0 (DOS)                         534

GRAPHICS & DESKTOP PUBLISHING

Corel Draw 3.0 (WIN)                      136
Corel Draw 4.0 (WIN)                      398
Pagemaker 5.0  (WIN)                      581
Publisher 2.0 (WIN)                        93
Ventura Publisher 4.1 (WIN)               525

GROUP & INFORMATION MANAGEMENT

Act! 1.1 (WIN)                            261
Calendar Creator Plus 1.0 (WIN)            42
Lotus Organizer 1.0 (WIN)                  99
Project 3.0 (WIN)                         449
On Target (DOS)                            87
Pack Rat 5.0 (DOS)                        240
Timeline 1.0 (WIN)                        453

INTEGRATED

Borland Office 1.0 (WIN)                  388
Claris Works 1.0 (WIN)                     95
Lotus Smart Suite 2.0 (WIN)               433
Microsoft Office 3.0 (WIN)                455
Microsoft Works 2.0 (WIN)                 132
WordPerfect Works 1.0 (DOS)                99

NETWORKS

Lantastic AI 5.0 (DOS)                     83
Lantastic AI 5.0 (WIN)                     83
Novell Netware 3.11 5-user                593
Novell Netware 3.11 20-user              1727
Novell Netware 4.01 5-user                921
Novell Netware 4.01 25-user              3068
Windows for Workgroups (1 user) 3.1       166
[add on for users of MS Windows 3.1]       66
[2-user starter kit with SW and HW]       452

OPERATING ENVIRONMENTS & SYSTEMS

IBM OS/2 2.1                              154
MS-DOS 6.0 Upgrade                         87
MS Windows 3.1                             97
MS Windows NT 3.1                         324

PROGRAMMING

Borland C++ 3.1 (WIN)                     343
Turbo C++ 3.1 Visual Edition (WIN)         79
Turbo Pascal 7.0 (DOS)                    108
Visual Basic 3.0 Professional (WIN)       258
Visual Basic 3.0 Standard (WIN)           132
Visual C++ 1.0 Professional (WIN)         326
Visual C++ 1.0 Standard (WIN)             132
MS Windows 3.1 SDK (WIN)                  234

SPREADSHEETS

CA-Compete (WIN)                          331
Excel 4.0  (WIN)                          312
Lotus 1-2-3 4.0 (WIN)                     319
Quattro Pro 1.0 (WIN)                      99

UTILITIES

After Dark 1.0 (DOS)                       30
After Dark 2.0 (WIN)                       30
Dashboard 2.0 (WIN)                        45
Far Side Daily Planner 2.0 (WIN)           40
Norton Desktop 2.2 (WIN)                  118
Norton Utilities 7.0 (DOS)                118
PC Tools 1.0 (WIN)                        125
PC Tools Deluxe 8.0a (DOS)                125
QEMM 386 7.01 (DOS)                        62
Stacker 3.1 (DOS/WIN)                      97
Xtree Gold 3.0 (DOS)                       99
Xtree 2.0 (WIN)                            65

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From: STEPHEN DURFEE                         Number: 4181
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/31/93 12:35a
Subj: <><> CD-ROM SOFTWARE - LOW PRICES <><>  Refer: NONE
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Book of Lists #3                            57
Bookshelf 1993 (WIN)                       129
Cinemania (WIN)                             54
Compton's Family Encyclopedia              145
Electronic Home Library                     51
Encarta 1992 MM Encyclopedia (WIN)         258
Guiness MM Disk of Records 1993             57
Jazz: A MM History                          44
Library of the Future, 1st edition          94
Library of the Future, 2nd edition         184
Multimedia Beethoven 1.1                    55
Multimedia Dinosaurs 1.0                    55
Multimedia Mozart 1.0                       55
Multimedia Stravinsky 1.0                   55
Musical Instruments 1.0                     55
Oxford English Reference Library            94
Science in Motion 1.0                       46
Space in Motion 1.0                         46
Sports in Motion 1.0                        46
Sports Illustrated Almanac (MPC)            39
The Doctor's Book of Home Remedies          25
The KGB-CIA World Fact Book                 33
U.S. Atlas 3.0                              35
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From: ZACHARY HAMM                           Number: 4182
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/31/93 12:59a
Subj: 7TH GUEST CD-ROM FOR SALE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

FOR SALE



7th guest CD-ROM.  New in box with docs and VHS tape on how the game was
made.

$40.00 plus shipping.


Zack Hamm


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 4183
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 08/31/93  1:34p
Subj: some roms for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CDRoms for sale:

  Murmurs of Earth w/book            $30.00  Own a piece of Voyager
  ShareWare Heaven 1993              $27.00  600+ Megs of MSDOS/Win
  Hobbes OS/2  June 1993             $15.00  600+ Megs of OS/2
  Project Gutenberg  July 1993       $22.00  Tons of classic lit/history
  Source  March 1992                 $22.00  Tons of C code
  Garbo May 1992                     $15.00  600+ Megs of MSDOS/MAC
  Simtel MSDOS May 1993              $15.00  630+ Megs MSDOS
  Aminet June 1993                   $15.00  Hundreds of megs of Amiga
Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order, 2nd day priority shipping.
I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD charges.

Send checks/money orders to, and/or feel free to contact:

Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

[phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0


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From: MICHAEL OUJESKY                        Number: 4184
  To: ED JUNE                                  Date: 08/31/93  8:08p
Subj: OS/2 CD                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BO> Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail
 BO> in the  rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from
 BO> them, bottom  line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for
 BO> only $65.

 CE> Isn't the rebate only for registered users of 2.0?


 EJ> Yes!
 EJ> You MUST send in your old proof of license from version 2.0

According to the form includd with OS/2 2.1 the rebate applies to _ANY_
previous version of OS/2.

Later...

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From: MOHIT GOYAL                            Number: 4185
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/31/93  8:05p
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>>>    On 08-26-1993, BORIS OSADCIW expounded to all that would
  >>>    listen, certain words of wisdom concerning OS/2 CD...

BO>BO>> Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
  >BO>>  rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
  >BO>>  line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.

BO>>>    Isn't the rebate only for registered users of 2.0?

BO>Not according to what they told us at IBM.

They told you wrong.

The only people who can get the $30 rebate are owners of OS/2 2.0.

In addition to your receipt & registration for OS/2 2.1, you have to
send IBM your receipt or proof of licence for OS/2 2.0.
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4186
  To: CHRIS CHRISTENSEN                        Date: 08/31/93  7:32p
Subj: BB                                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CC> Mebbe not. But if somebody offered you $250 for it
 CC> wouldn't you take it and laugh all the way to the
 CC> bank?

Of course...but it is still ridiculous to pay that much for one adult CD.

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From: DAVID MCSPADDEN                        Number: 4187
  To: MARC GRANCOIN                            Date: 08/31/93 10:30p
Subj: To France                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Marc,

    The shipping would be $4.00 for France as well.


Valerie, CD-WORLD


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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 4188
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 08/31/93  8:30a
Subj: RE: Toshiba Q's                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>I'm considering purchase of a Toshiba 3401 (internal) CD ROM drive and
>have some questions. Anyone with answers or comments, please jump in!

I bought the Toshiba 34019(internal) about a month ago,and so far haven't had
any problems.
 I got the CD-Rom,PAS16(sound card which CD-Rom can plug into) and the
kit(cable's,etc.) for $549. at CD-Rom Direct.

Their number is 1-800-332-2404.


                              Diana

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From: GLENN CAREY                            Number: 4189
  To: JAMES TOPPER                             Date: 08/31/93  8:22a
Subj: Re: CDROM question                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

James
you should be able to access any CD rom with GIFS or text files on it also
some of the font collections should work if you have the conversion
capabilities you can also access tiffs pcx and all the other graphic
formats


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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 4190
  To: GARY KELLISON                            Date: 08/30/93  8:01p
Subj: GREAT CHEAP CD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> JH>Buy store near you.  This week ROM_Material is on sale for $9.97.

-> Wah!  This CD is from Moon Valley Software and cost me $15 at
-> Egghead. I thought I was getting a good deal 'cause it was $20 at
-> CompUSA.

Gary, I've enjoyed this one a bunch. I get a lot of double takes when
people come by and see all the animated icons on my desktop going whiz-
bang.

$15 was a very good price and worth it. It was such a steal for $10
that I couldn't pass it up.

James
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From: MOHIT GOYAL                            Number: 4191
  To: CHARLES ROBERTS                          Date: 08/31/93  9:17p
Subj: future wars                             Refer: NONE
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CR>Desert Storm  $20   Future Wars  $15   Multimedia Mania w/book  $20

What did you think of Future Wars?  Did you ever play the floppy
version?

I played & finished the floppy version.  I'm wondering how enhanced the
cdrom version is over the floppy one.

Thanks!
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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 4192
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 08/29/93  7:00p
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jeff Jenkins beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

JJ>Thanks for the offer, but Comptons Ency. is 49.00 new including shippi
JJ>if I buy it here... if you will go less, let me know.

Hi Jeff,

Are you talking about the Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for Windows??
I haven't seen that for less than $249.00 or $129.00 for the upgrade. I'd
like to find it cheaper though.

Ron in Tampa


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From: RICHARD NIXON                          Number: 4193
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/28/93  8:22a
Subj: Toshiba 3401B for SALE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello folks, I have a new Toshiba 3401B for sale.  200ms seek time and
330K transfer rate.  This is the fastest single disc drive you can buy!
Directly supported by OS/2 2.1 and is SCSI-2 so it will co-exist with
your other SCSI drives w/o problems.

$350.00 plus shipping.  415-586-8140.

 * KWQ/2 1.2a * If at first you don't succeed, put out another version (KWQ 1.2
.........


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From: MICHAEL CROSSON                        Number: 4194
  To: J. ALLEN                                 Date: 08/31/93  7:02p
Subj: Re: Jem Disk CD-Rom Trade In Sale       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >MC> Send us your old CD-Rom (in good condition) and $14.95 and we'll send
 >MC> you Jem Disc I shareware CD-Rom collection.  Jem Disc was printed last
 >
 >MC> The current price without trade in is $19.95 plus S/H so this deal
 >MC> represents a savings of $10.  HURRY - offer ends 9/15/93!

 >I come up with $5.00.  How do you get to $10.00 savings?

Thanks for the mini consumer math lesson J, but my original post is correct.
Shipping and Handling is FREE if you take advantage of the trade-in special.
Since S/H is normally $5.00 and we took $5.00 off the price, that comes
exactly one Franklin!

If you or others are interested, FREQ JEMTRADE.ZIP, JEMDISC.ZIP and
(optionally) JEMFILES.ZIP from 1:203/49 or call 916-921-9949 and download
them from my logon matrix (enter JEM at the dos prompt).

Thanks!

Michael



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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4195
  To: GENE EHRICH                              Date: 08/31/93 11:22p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 GE>    So what is the price?
 GE>  ■ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 ■ Don't fight with ugly
 GE> people.  They have nothing to los

Release 2.0 of the original version will be out again this month.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4196
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 08/31/93 11:25p
Subj: Night Owl Windows CD v1 P               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 RH> Night Owl Graphics CD).  Why go with other dealers
 RH> that sell a bazillion
 RH> other disks and are clueless about what is actually on Night Owl?  TCM
 RH> specializes in Night Owl; that is why TCM BBS is

Because of pricing levels <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4197
  To: BLAINE RICHARD                           Date: 08/31/93 11:26p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUTIES            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BR> As to whether or not only idiots can make money running a BBS,
 BR> you need to be introduced to Rusty & Eddy's and Event Horizons,
 BR> to name a few.  As it is so difficult to make money operating
 BR> a BBS, selling CDs can only help offset the costs.

Let's see....Rusty and Edie's got busted for distributing copyrighted software
and Event Horizon's got sued for distributing Playboy scans and I understand
Busty was in trouble also.  That must be the trick to making money with your
BBS, doing things illegally, huh??  <g d & r>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4198
  To: SHADOW SMITH                             Date: 08/31/93 11:29p
Subj: Looking for:                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SS> I'm looking for any of the 650MB movies on CD_ROM.  If you any, please
 SS> respond to this message.  Thanks!

We have a great selection of them....any particular interests?

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4199
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 08/31/93 11:30p
Subj: Aviation CD                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PP> I'm looking for something I can put on my BBS for
 PP> download.  I don't think aircraft encylcopedia fits
 PP> the bill.  BBS # is 317-583-0732.

I have not seen one that suits those requirements for BBS use...

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4200
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 08/31/93 11:31p
Subj: Busty Babes v1.0r                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SG> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 SG> +++++++++++++++++++++I WILL GO $ 260.00
 SG> YOU CAN FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497 FOR MY ADDRESS AND MORE INFO

Don't waste your money....the second release of it will be out again this
month......we're taking pre-orders for it.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4201
  To: JASON SCHWARTZ                           Date: 08/31/93 11:32p
Subj: PC-SIG                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Go for Nightowl....don't waste your time with PC Sig...

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4202
  To: VICTOR EMOND                             Date: 08/31/93 11:35p
Subj: Re: 6 Cdrom Changer                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 VE> Being that you sell the Pioneer 6CD changer could you give a price on
 VE> the DMR600 and the DMR604X. I'm looking to buy either one. Also do you
 VE> do COD's or credit cards.

We sell the 600A for $829 plus shipping.....800-547-7817 to order....credit
cards accepted.  Discount applicable for cash purchase.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4203
  To: DOUG SNELL                               Date: 08/31/93 11:37p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > only please.  Thank you!
 DS> What make BB #1 so valuable?

It has copyrighted scans on it...

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4204
  To: DAVID NGHIEM                             Date: 08/31/93 11:38p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DN> I am wondering.  WHat does "wife-proof" mean in an
 DN> adult-cd-rom?  I have
 DN> seen that before in ads.

It would be like Ecstasy Hot Pics....it just says EHP on it, so the wife
couldn't tell it was an adult CD <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4205
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/31/93 11:42p
Subj: BUSTY BABES RELEASE 2.0 CDROM IS BACK   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  * *  B U S T Y  B A B E S  * *  RELEASE 2.0  * * IS BACK!! * *
   Will be re-released in September.  We are taking pre-orders.
        The Price - $36.95.  We will meet any price on it.

Features:  675+ MB of Erotica Viewing Pleasure - 1,000 Copyrited
           High Resolution VGA/SVGA Pics including the Busty Babes
           Fully BBS Ready with text files in Files.BBS format
           New Show Off Interface with easy menu installation

PCJ Computing-Voice 615-339-0235/Fax [phone]/Orders 800-547-7817

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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 4206
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/30/93  7:52p
Subj: Missing Order                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike, could you check on my order.  It's been over 10 days and still no
disc.  It's under the name of Walter Thomason (I am known better by my
middle name).  By the way, It is I who asked about being charged $88 for
Precision Mapping and $28 for NightOwl 9.0.  Is the caddy trade-off a
deal?

           Ty.

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From: RAY MATTHEWS                           Number: 4207
  To: DAVID NGHIEM                             Date: 08/31/93  5:14p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* in a message to Tony Miles <29 Aug 93 01:51> David Nghiem wrote:

 >DN> 101 GL, DL movies
 >DN> No descriptions
 >DN> Not wife-proof
 >DN> Published in February 93

 DN> I am wondering.  WHat does "wife-proof" mean in an adult-cd-rom?  I have
 DN> seen that before in ads.

    A 'wife proof' disc has nothing on the disc itself that would indicate that
it contains 'adult' material. For example, the Asian Ladies disc only has a
large "AL" on the disc. Without running it, there is no way to tell that it
contains explicit pics.
    Many wives do not approve of this kind of material for whatever reason, so
this is just one way of having it without having to hide it somewhere.
---
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4208
  To: VICTOR EMOND                             Date: 08/31/93 11:48p
Subj: Re: 6 Cdrom Changer                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Being that you sell the Pioneer 6CD changer could you give a
>>    price on the DMR600 and the DMR604X. I'm looking to buy either
>>    one. Also do you do COD's or credit cards.

The DMR600 is priced at $799. and the DMR604X is priced at $1199.

If you need further assistance, please feel free to give us a call at
216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4209
  To: RON RICHMOND                             Date: 09/01/93  1:44a
Subj: Re: Canadian sales                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    To ALL.
>>          I had ordered Busty Babes vol.2 from Dave and it was
>>       held at the border. The P.O. would not return it to Dave
>>       and when I called Fed.Ex they estimated $24 to $36 Can.
>>       depending on actual weight,to send it back. Estimated only,
>>       because I cannot get the disk to them from Customs.and they
>>       would have to pick it up at the P.O. I chose to abandon the
>>       disk, as this would be almost as much as the original cost.
>>       Customs would not tell me which disks would be stopped.
>>       Canadians would be well advised to order from Vince and
>>       Michellea Sorensen. Ron.

We have shipped hundreds of adult cd's to Canada and never had a problem
with customes. In fact, we just shipped a major order to Ontario and the
customer received it with ease and NO CUSTOM FEE's.

I guess it's all in the way you ship your products and or handle the
matterial.

On another note, customes will ship the package back if it is so stated
on the package. Even if it is not allowed to enter the country, it will be
returned to the shipper at his/her expense. This again is only true if the
shipper has stated this on the package.

Just a few cents worth......

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4210
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93  1:44a
Subj: TOSHIBA CDROM SPECIAL                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% TOSHIBA 3401 CDROM Player %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

      200ms access time - 330kps transfer rate w/ 1.2meg burts mode -
      Novell - OS/2 - Windows compatiable - Mutli-spin - Multisession
      Kodak approved - caddy system.
      Internal Bare Drive - $389. - Bare = Drive, caddy and manual
      External Bare Drive - $489. - Same as above
     Pro Studio 16 with above purchase only $225. while supply lasts
                  Media Vision Upgrade Kit - $25.00
 ORDER LINE ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759



Boris Osadciw

... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4211
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93  1:44a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 *************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ***************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00         Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00
Panasonic 561 Int Kit   - $289.00         Phillips Ext kit refur $195.00
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1199.
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00         Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00         Texel Ext Complete   - $569.00
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $389.00         Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare-$489.00
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00         Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00
 Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50.  ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4212
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93  1:44a
Subj: NEW CDROMS                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

)))))))))))))))))))))) H O T  N E W  C D ' S ((((((((((((((((((((((

Dr. Music - Music Editors, MOD, MIDI, ROL, SND, VOC, WAV and more!
Dr. Shareware - 615 megs of shareware programs and utilities!
Dr. Games - 600+ megs of Adventure, Arcade, Card, Sports and more!
Dr. Windows - 3,440 files of window programs and utilities!
                          All BBS READY !!
               Price - $59.00 for all 4 or $20.00ec

ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 4213
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 08/30/93  7:15p
Subj: OS/2                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Boris!

Sunday August 29 1993, Boris Osadciw writes to All:

 BO> ==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ====================
 BO>                               IN STOCK
 BO>  Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21
 BO>  package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and
 BO>  other special discounts for only $65.00!

When did OS/2 v2.21 come out?  I thought I was running the latest version
(v2.1).  ;-)



... Clinton Cruise Lines - Taking America for a Ride!

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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 4214
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  5:24p
Subj: Flash!                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     This is why you need a CD-ROM:

     "InterOptica's Astonishing Asia CD-ROM features scenes of

     Thai transvestites, roast dog barbecues, and this talented

     Chines snake performer coaxing two live snakes in through

     His nose and out his mouth."

     415-788-8788

     Found on page 500 of the September 14, 1993 issue of PC Magazine.

     *:o)


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From: VITO SERVIDEO                          Number: 4215
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 08/31/93 12:43a
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->   >Thats alright but if you know any one wants one give them my numbe
->   >512-939-9822, Thanks!
->
-> Sure thing.  It's funny how these things work.  I just got a copy of
-> Erotic Encounters 2, which is supposed to be banned in the USA.  I'll
-> bet millions of them will sell! <G>
->
->                                                         Jim...
->
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->
why is eroctic encounters supposed to be banned?


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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 4216
  To: RICHARD CAVIN                            Date: 08/29/93 10:15a
Subj: Re: disks for sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Todd, are you interested in trading for Super Nintendo games and/or
-> Sega Genensis games. I've got several of each that i've finished and
-> am interested in all three of the above CDs.

   Well actually, Iwas looking to trade several of the titles for
a core system, either a S_Nintendo of a S_Genesis.

Have you got an extra you wanna trade ?

-Todd

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From: TONY MILES                             Number: 4217
  To: DAVID NGHIEM                             Date: 08/31/93 10:40a
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DN>DN> 101 GL, DL movies
  >DN> No descriptions
  >DN> Not wife-proof
  >DN> Published in February 93

DN>I am wondering.  WHat does "wife-proof" mean in an adult-cd-rom?  I have
  >seen that before in ads.

"Wife-proof" is a term used to describe the labeling of the discs. A
"wife-proof"  has a label which doesn't reveal the contents of the disc,
i.e. adult files, xxx graphics, etc.

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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4218
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93 11:16p
Subj: GREAT VALUE & SERVICE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                   Canada's CD-ROM Source is...

                   CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA

               6 Armstrong Bay * Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7
               306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax
                    VISA/MC/MO/Cheque Accepted

           New titles weekly! Call for current specials!
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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 4219
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 08/31/93 12:41p
Subj: Where are my CD's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi doug,  got my money order yet?  If so when did you get it, and when did you
mail my CD's?

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From: ANDREW SETO                            Number: 4220
  To: KEVIN RICH                               Date: 08/31/93 12:48p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Cd-Rom For Sa               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    It's internal and it does come with a controller.

andrew seto


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From: TRACY MOLITOR                          Number: 4221
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/31/93  9:40p
Subj: 6 Disc CDROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for a 6 disk CD-ROM Drive.   Anyone got one for sale?

                        =>  GALADRIEL  <=


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From: DAVID HARRISON                         Number: 4222
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/01/93  1:58a
Subj: Re: UPDATED ADULT CD PRICES             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey mike, seeing as you sale a high volume of CD's, I was wondering if you
or somebody else on this echo that has the data available could post a chart
of dupes, sizes, percentages, ect. on maybe 4 or 5 of the top BBS-READY cd's
on the market right now (along with their average price ranges)...

The reason for this is becuase I am a sysop on the verge of making the move
to CD....  And I am sure there are 100s of sysops on this echo that would
like the same exact thing posted...

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4223
  To: DAVID NGHIEM                             Date: 08/31/93  8:22p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DN>I am wondering.  WHat does "wife-proof" mean in an adult-cd-rom?  I have
DN>seen that before in ads.

    Being a "wife" myself, I've had to avoid all these luscious-sounding
    CDs since I'd obviously be unable to use them. Geee... I guess that
    it means:

    1)  Females are physically or mentally unable to open the CD case?
    2)  Wives are obviously computer-phobes and wouldn't think to get
        a directory listing to see what's on the disk?
    3)  The lady of the house would only be incensed by such adult
        material, and therefore must be "protected" from it by having
        hubby hide the evidence?
    4)  Nobody but males read the CDROM ads and would ever realize that
        such trickery occurs...

    Maybe one of these days someone will come out with a good CD full of
    adult material for us ladies. And hopefully it'll be husband-proof.
    I'd hate for hubby to realize that I'm enjoying such things!  ;-)

    Just to keep this on track as a "For Sale" message... Does anyone
    know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females? Title and
    price, dealers?

- Heather
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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 4224
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/01/93  6:54a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*******  Original Msg. From: Boris Osadciw  To: All  *******

Boris...I'm afraid I got a little carried away this morning
while I was talking to you.

I would like to apologize for my actions. Just chalk it up
to frustration. If the discs come in today...all is forgiven.

*****
 **** ICHARD
** **

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From: DAN PROCIV                             Number: 4225
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93  3:02a
Subj: RED HOT CDROM SPECIAL!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>>>>>>>THE CD-MACHINE "HOT" MONTHLY SPECIALS FOR SEPT 93<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

GAY WORLD 1....................69.00  GAY WORLD 2..................69.00
MANPOWER.......................69.00  HOT HUNKS....................69.00
GBL 1..........................69.00  BUSTY BABES..................27.00
ADULT REFERENCE LIBRARY........24.00  DIGITAL DREAMS...............29.00
STORM 1,2, AND 3.........ALL...60.00  PHYSICAL THERAPY.............25.00
PORK-WARE 1 OR 2...............32.00  SEEDYROM 1-6.............EA..25.00
TOTAL FANTASY..................28.00  VISUAL FANTASIES.............26.00
MOVING FANTASIES...............26.00  SOFTWARE VAULT 1 OR 2........21.00
VOLCANO........................28.00  KINGS QUEST V................25.00
NIX PIX HOT PIX 2,3,4,5.....EA.26.00  SMUTWARE.....................27.00
TRANZ..........................29.00  ECSTASY HOT PICS.............27.00
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
                      ORDERS [phone] (24 HRS)
                      BBS ONLINE [phone] (24 HRS)


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From: PIERRE DU PREEZ                        Number: 4226
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 08/29/93  3:00p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVE FOR SALE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jerry
 JM> Please e-mail me if you are still interested.
Thanks for your reply. Yes I am still interested. CD_Rom's are really
scarce here in South Africa.
Can you please give me more info on the NEC. Possible to give me your
voice phone number.
Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Pierre

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From: JOHN DUIJS                             Number: 4227
  To: DAVID HEYDRICK                           Date: 08/29/93 11:49a
Subj: Gay Roms??                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Dear David..

 >     Does anyone have any Gay type CD's?

 >     Or a CD that has Adult text files,
 >     perfer gay or BI.

'Hip, hip, hurrah!' I thought, before I discovered the question marks. Yes, I
happen to have one called 'GBL .GIF Files of Alternative Lifestyles Volume I'
(which is a title I am not too happy with as 'lifestyle' has become a political
buzzword on your side of the pond).

It is distributed by PC Info Systems, P.O. Box 23591, Columbus,OHIO 43223 and
has a 'cover price' of US$ 199.00, -though I bought it over here, in the
Netherlands, for Hfl. 129,- (ca. US$ 75.00) including S&H and 17.5% Sales Tax.

I still must send in the enclosed Registration Card to the Warranty
Registration Center at the same P.O. Box, now at OH. 43223-0591. Let's hope Ole
Man River or one of its tributaries have not flooded them in the meantime.

The contents are:
     \BBS_LIST                          1 Files      25,011 Bytes
Not that useful to me, and a bit dated anyway..

     \BI_MEN                          259 Files  53,761,458 Bytes
     \BI_WOMEN                        303 Files  63,062,393 Bytes
Don't see much difference between the categories. Guess their can't be..

     \GAY_1                           364 Files  38,783,914 Bytes
     \GAY_2                           299 Files  27,382,752 Bytes
The larger files, many very good and clear, some smallish. Not much 'action', I
mean 'guys at it' in twos or more. Not many 'specialty' things like leather,
S&M, spanking, etc. Not much of that overall, anyway.(Not that I want it,
either..)

     \GAY_LOW                         173 Files   3,646,207 Bytes
     \GAY_MAC                         193 Files   4,875,038 Bytes
'LOW' are low byte size and low density. Some good, nevertheless. Blowing them
up even may give a decent Windows SVGA Wallpaper. Many, however, rather poor. A
number are duplicates of GAY_1 and GAY_2. The 'MAC' things are in black and
white, some Tom of Finland and similar drawings and cartoons, a lot of rather
primitive scans e.g. from Play Girl.

     \GAY_TEXT                        155 Files   3,256,828 Bytes
Lots of short stories, many of them very readable, and one or two novellas,
consisting of some twenty separate files. Almost every variation you can dream
of seems covered, including bondage etc.

     \LEZ_1                           193 Files  38,047,887 Bytes
     \LEZ_2                           125 Files  44,724,213 Bytes
Bein' a GWM, I have not looked through them very carefully..

     \MEN_1                            65 Files   9,810,595 Bytes
Lots of mostly All-American Male Beauty, well photographed for the most part.

     \TRANS                            19 Files   2,625,650 Bytes
This isn't my taste either.

     \VIEWERS                          15 Files   1,177,050 Bytes
     \VPIC                             48 Files     257,960 Bytes
     \WOMEN_1                         282 Files  55,364,984 Bytes

Total Files ->2,494  Total Bytes ->346,801,940

As this is Volume I, maybe there will be, or already is, a Volume II or even
III. It should be noted that it is not 'BBS ready', as in most categories
FILES.BBS or _dirlist is absent, and in some the wrong ones are provided.

Hoping to have been of some help...

Greetinx.

JOHN

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4228
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 08/31/93  9:52p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUEAUT            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Mike Shannon <08-30-93 20:52> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> Yes, put me down for a BB Vol II when you get some.

Hehehehe, your gonna like this disc :) It will be on the streets in Septemeber
for sure--

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: CHRIS KUEFLER                          Number: 4229
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/29/93 10:28a
Subj: Busty Babes?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can someone tell me why the price is going so high on the ver1 BB cd? I have a
BB cd, and am wondering how to find what version it is?

CJK

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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4230
  To: PAUL DIESTELHORST                        Date: 08/31/93  8:43p
Subj: BUSTY BABES                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Hey, where can I get a copy of Busty Babes and how much?
Hi Paul!
   From us for $25 Canadian or $19US. S/H $2. Our number is
306-789-4654!
   .\\ichellea
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From: SHAHBAZ CHAUDHARY                      Number: 4231
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  6:27p
Subj: cd-rom needed                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

hello every one, i am looking for a cd-rom.  the cd-rom must ready to
go, (i am not an expert at cd-roms, so i want all the cards, wires,
every-thing.)  it should cost around $100.  and it should be able to run
most of the cd's(I already have the drivers, provided by the windows, i
bought my computer from gateway 2000, so if there is any thing else i
need please let me know.  once again around 100 dollars, please respond.
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From: THOMAS NUFER                           Number: 4232
  To: DAVID BURKE                              Date: 08/31/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: 82% Match                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Then you should start one( CdRom areas ) and be the modulator!

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 4233
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 08/30/93  5:12a
Subj: Busty Babes for sale/trade              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PAT- I HAVE A NEW 386DX40 MOTHERBOARD WITH 256K CACHE
WOULD TRADE FOR YOUR BB VOL.1
YOU CAN FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497 OR LEAVE A MESSAGE

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From: JOHN PRITCHARD                         Number: 4234
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/31/93  9:18p
Subj: OMNI CD drive                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Does anyone have experiance with the C.L. OMNI CD-ROM drive?

How is it?

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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4235
  To: TOD CRAWFORD                             Date: 08/31/93  7:20a
Subj: Fate Of Atlantis                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Over heard something about fate of atlantis.  Don't mean to be nosy
but I've been looking for it for a while.  If you still have it leave
me a message and I'll send out the money.

michael hansen


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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4236
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/31/93  7:50a
Subj: Indiana Jones Fate Of Atl               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Looking for a copy of fate of atlantis on cd(might take disks).  Any
one out there with one they want to let go of write me or call
512-275-3273.   Hey you dealers out there let me know your prices too.

thanks a million!!!


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From: ALVIS COLLIER                          Number: 4237
  To: PAUL SEDILLO                             Date: 08/31/93  1:07p
Subj: -=- MONTHLY CATALOG -=-                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Paul please send catalog to address below, Thanks.


PS> PAUL SEDILLO -=- MONTHLY CATALOG -=-
PS>  =-=                      The Storage Specialists
PS>  =-=   MONTHLY CATALOG OFFER   =-=

   Al Collier [alc] - Colliers & Associates Automation
10 3rd St W,#B, Universal City,Tx,78148-5652 210-658-7331

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From: JERRY MASON                            Number: 4238
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93 12:05a
Subj: RE: Adult Cd For Trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

It just means that if your wife picks up the disc she won't know from it that
you are a dirty old man, or a dirty young man.



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From: TIGER MOSES                            Number: 4239
  To: JIM REED                                 Date: 09/01/93  1:48p
Subj: Cd\upload probs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Now I haven't ried this, so its just a guess.
Get the music going and get back to DOS,
use the assign command and make drive (E:) or whatever your CD is to another
drive.  Mine is J:, so somehting like ASSIGN J=C so maybe instead of hitting CD
it will hit a repeated Hard drive and shouldn't really affect anything.
If this works you owe me a Dr. Pepper!
* SPITFIRE v3.3
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 4240
  To: MIKE GUIDRY                              Date: 08/31/93 12:54p
Subj: MITSUMI                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> BN> Would anyone be kind enough to leave me a response on what
> BN> sound cards does mitsumi 350ms cd roms support?

>I don't know that it directly runs off of any

ATI FX/CD and one other that I know of (SOund Galaxy?)....


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From: MARC KULAK                             Number: 4241
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/01/93 10:21p
Subj: RED HOT                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Boris!

Sunday August 29 1993, Boris Osadciw writes to All:

 BO> $$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 BO>  ALL NEW - NIGHT OWL 9.0 - PIER 2 -                 PRICE - $25.00ec

What about From canada?  Could you send me something?? (Price List) As I am
becoming a distributer.

        Marc

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From: MARC KULAK                             Number: 4242
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93 10:28p
Subj: CDs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

I am in Canada and would like Price List for People and COmpanies in the
States, I am a Distributer.  Please Mail me at

        Marc Kulak
        290 Binns Ave.
        newmarket, On
        L3X 1T6
        Canada

Marc

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From: MARK RICHARDSON                        Number: 4243
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93  1:43p
Subj: Cdrom games                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  Hello all..
             I have recently bought a CD-ROM drive for my computer, and
 although it works fine, I am having a hard time playing Audio Cd's through
 the Cd-in jack on my SoundBlaster Pro.  What I want to know is, in computer
 cd-rom games such as 7th Guest, Wc2 CD, DOTT etc, must I have the cdrom going
to
 the SbPro directly or do cd games just access my SBPro the way regular
 games on the hard drive do?  any information Appreciated.

                                        Mark


>> Mark
... Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded!
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From: ALBERT AFONSO                          Number: 4244
  To: SAL PEDONE                               Date: 09/01/93  4:07p
Subj: Mm encyclopedia                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Sal!

27 Aug 93 00:35, Sal Pedone wrote to Albert Afonso:

 SP>    I have an unopened copy of Comptons MM Ency for windows v1.01w...
 SP>    Asking $45 plus shipping...if interested give me a call or echo here

I was looking for v2.0 if I could find it. Anyway, how about $25+COD Shipping?
If you are intersted, let me know and I will send you my address.

Take care,

Albert Afonso

Fax      : [phone]
Internet : [e-mail]
Fidonet  : 1:369/83

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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 4245
  To: JASON SCHWARTZ                           Date: 08/30/93  3:37a
Subj: Disks for sale                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Is the 20th Century Almanac Price Negotable?

 I'd rather trade it for something you might have, send me a list
of disks you would trade for it!

                Todd

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4246
  To: MICHAEL INGRAM                           Date: 09/02/93  2:21a
Subj: Re: Pioneer DMR600                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Hey there Boris...

>>    Rumor has it you would be the man to talk to about obtaining a
>>    CD Changer from...I dont know a thing about setting that model
>>    up. I currently run 2 single roms on my bbs and wanna move up
>>    to "MORE DOWNLOADS!" <G>,  anyways...

God, I hate when that happens....

>>    Leave me a message on how to get a "complete" package for under
>>    DOS.  I am currently running a standard ISA system and would
>>    need a controller accordingly...

Your best value would be the DMR600, which is priced at $799. If you
don't have a SCSI based system, then you will need to get a SCSI
controller and the proper device drivers, which would run about $75. You
will also need a shielded cable ( since this is an external unit ), which
would cost another $25. This would give you everything you need to get the
system online, which would be $899. plus shipping. The only thing you
would need after that would be CD's, which we also carry at resonable prices
as well.

>>    I would also be intrested in any used units if they are
>>    available... Wouldnt have to be Pioneer...Just Complete
>>    Package and hold a lotta cd's!

The Pioneer is the only unit I could recommend at this point as it has been
a proven work horse on hundreds of BBS's all over the country. As for a used
unit, more often then not, many sysop's want to sell their old unit for
almost the same price as what we ask for a new one. Very few come across
here and the only reason is to upgrade to the 604X, but that's another story
for another message.

If you need further assistance, please feel free to give us a call at
216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Hope this helps...

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4247
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  2:21a
Subj: BUSTY BABE                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

)))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.

                      PRICE - $25.00

To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((



Boris Osadciw

... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 4248
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 09/01/93  7:04a
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> No, and there apparently are no plans to do so for the indefinite fut
HP>That's funny, I was at a fair a couple days ago at a Britanica both, and
HP>they had it on CD-ROM there.

Henry, my understanding was that they were looking at cdrom, but
only selling it as a optional extra with the complete paper
encyclopedia. Can you tell us any more about it? Cheers!
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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 4249
  To: STEPHEN DURFEE                           Date: 09/01/93  5:17p
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HI there, do you have 7th Guess, and how much is it?

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From: BOB FISCHER                            Number: 4250
  To: MIKE CICCOLINI                           Date: 09/01/93 10:40a
Subj: Re: Question About Cd-Rom               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Ciccolini to All <=-

 MC> I own a Sound Blaster, (not the PRO but the 1.5 non-stereo) and
 MC> was wondering if I bought a CD-ROM would installation be smooth
 MC> or would there be some problems with finding drivers or some

 I have a SB 1.5 (purchased used) and a Mitsumi dr ($175) and it works
 fine with WFW 3.1/Qemm 7.01.
 I added some leads from the RCA jacks on the I/F card to the input(s) to
 the audio amp on the SB, but it's very simple. I usually listen to CD
 audio while reading mail offline. I haven't tried/played any games with
 this set up, so perhaps some problems would be encountered. I understand
 some of the newer games available require faster CD access, direct input
 to the sound board, etc. For what I do, it has worked fine, and was
 least expensive. Bob f


... "Don't mince words, Mike ... what do you *REALLY* think?"
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From: BOB BREED                              Number: 4251
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93 12:00p
Subj: Repair/Upgrade Cd Drive?                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    I have an older Toshiba Model XM-3100B CD drive. While the
specs show that it is fast enough for Multi-media service, that
is it has a access time of 350 ms and throughput of 150 kbs, it
lacks XA.
    Does anyone know if these drives can be up-graded simply.
Perhaps by just changing out the ROM? Called the Toshiba people
listed in my local phonebook, but they only know about TV sets
etc. nothing about CD's.
    Also one other minor point. In the last few weeks, the drive
busy light has been staying on after I load a disk. Most times I
just reload, then it winks for a few seconds and goes out. It has
been getting worse tho. Now about every third time I change disks
the darn busy light stays on! Is this caused by a dirty lens?
(Read somewhere that that is one of the symptoms of a dirty
lens.) I've never used one of those disks to clean the lens...do
they work, or just a waste of time?
    How about trade-in. Anyone out there willing to take this guy
in trade for a later model with XA capability? Also might as well
upgrade my sound board to a Pro-Audio 16. How much on a package
deal for board, cables etc. Internal would be fine. Thanks for
your help.

... What if I offer $1.00 (each) to a million wives for sex?
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From: MARK SMITKA                            Number: 4252
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/01/93  2:25p
Subj: Grammy cd                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike,

Have you got "The Grammy's" (Grammy Awards on CD)? If so, what're you asking
for it?
===
 -=(( Mark ))=--- Nervous: Asking what wine goes well with fingernails.

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From: SAL PEDONE                             Number: 4253
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 09/02/93 12:17a
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Thanks for the offer, but Comptons Ency. is 49.00 new including
-> shipping if I buy it here... if you will go less, let me know.

  Will go $40 shipped prepaid...Let me know...Sal
  912-956-5163  6pm-9pm EST


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From: MARTIN GOMEZ                           Number: 4254
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93 11:16p
Subj: CD-ROM Trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anybody interested in trading CD-rom games? I have:
1.Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego? DEluxe Edition
2.Mantis Experimental Fighter & Civilization(on same cd)
3.Battle Chess
       If interested, please E-mail me, or write back here.
       Martin Gomez

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From: STEVE KRUEGER                          Number: 4255
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  8:17a
Subj: Sony External CD Rom for Sale           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Practically Brand New (Built in 3/93)
Sony External SCSI model cdu-541-88
Kodac MultiSession
MultiSpeed
in factory all metal case
excellent condition
asking $295.00 obo
Give me a call....I'll listen!!!!!!

214-424-9920

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From: JAMES TOPPER                           Number: 4256
  To: GLENN CAREY                              Date: 09/01/93 10:38p
Subj: Re: CDROM question                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GC> you should be able to access any CD rom with GIFS or text files on it
GC> also
GC> some of the font collections should work if you have the conversion
GC> capabilities you can also access tiffs pcx and all the other graphic
GC> formats

   Glenn, thanks.  I knew most of that.  I have had one bad experience with
a disk filled with clip art that was for Clone and Mac computers.  I bought
it locally and figured I would be able to access the tiff and pcx clipart
on the disk.  However it was only accessable by running an included access
program.  Luckily the store I bought it from let me return it and get my
money back.  I would like to see a listing of CDROMs that are accessable
without having to run any special access programs.  I thought there would be
disks out there that might contain the things I'm looking for.  PS type 1
fonts would be nice too... ;-)  I have AD Pro and Imagemaster so converting
any clipart I can access wouldn't be a problem.  Not to mention that
PageStream can load them direct.

                                                Jim

PS.  Here is a list of the CDROMs I have:
         The Ultimate Mod collection
         Gifs Galore
         Knowledge Media Resource Library Graphics 1
         Xetek's 2 Fish and More disks that came with my s/w CDROM driver.

 * Q-Blue v0.7 *


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From: STEVE BERRY                            Number: 4257
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  9:26p
Subj: Wondering...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

What is the BEST Files.BBS Formated BBS CD rom out at this time? for use on
ANY bbs to be a little more critical?

thanks for reading ... And remeber! Floppys can die, .. CD roms can just
shine! <G> laters

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From: SHADOW SMITH                           Number: 4258
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 08/31/93  6:23p
Subj: Looking for:                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm interested in purchasing the sex capades movie...please give me the
# so i can call and order.

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 4259
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 09/02/93  5:10a
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I believe you are refering to Microsoft Encarta, it runs about 250 or
so... but Comptons MM encyclopedia runs around 50.00  check out the ads
here. I have seen it  a dozon times from about 49.00-66.00


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From: MICHAEL KOKOTT                         Number: 4260
  To: MARC CLARDY                              Date: 09/01/93  9:25p
Subj: Re: CD-Rom List                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SAM FIGUEROA@1:3622/13 meinte am 16.08.93
zum Thema "CD-Rom List":

> MC>MG>  Hello Mark.  Yes I would like the list of "ALL" the CD's your carry.
> MC>MG>  Please mail to:
> MC>MG>                  Max Green
> MC>MG>                  399 Westmeade Dr
> MC>MG>                  Gretna, LA. 70056
>
> MC> We'll send you one as soon as possible.  Thanks for replying.
>
> MC>                                               Mark
> MC>--- FreeMail 1.08b
> MC> * Origin: COMP-U-Sirv * Dothan, AL * 205-677-0078 * (1:18/10)
> Mark,
>          Please send me a catalog of all cd titles at:
>         Sam Figueroa
>         Sam's Software
>         Rt 2 Box 2453-A
>         Manchester, TN 37355
>
Hello Mark, do you send this list also to Germany or only nationwide?
Else please send one Copy to:
Michael Kokott
Postfach (P.O. Box) 1755
53757 St. Augustin
Germany

Thanks
Michael--
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 4261
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93 11:41p
Subj: Elysian Archive /Amiga                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Coming Soon!....

             Elysian Archive
  Welcome to the World of Amiga...

  Finally, an Amiga CD-ROM designed for BBS'!..

  * Games
  * Utilities for all Amiga Models
  * Tracker Modules(ST/NT/MED)
  * Demos of commercial software
  * Eurodemos
  * Animations
  * 24 bit images
  * Programming

  CD Specifications
  * ISO9660 format; readable by Amigas and PC's
  * File names are in 8.3 format for compatibility
  * Over 6000 files
  * Over 600 Megabytes

  Produced by TFS
  Published and Distributed by GroupWare

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From: RODNEY RUDD                            Number: 4262
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 09/02/93 12:18p
Subj: DAK CD-ROM SUPPORT                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SG> THE NUMBER FOR TECH SUPPORT IS 1-800-888-9818 I HAVE THE BSR
SG> 6800 MX IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
SG>

Calling that number is absolutely futile.  I attempted to get through all day
Monday and half of Tuesday.  It was almost a constant wall of busy signals.
The few times I was able to get a "ring", I got dumped into a voice mail system
that I can only describe as a NIGHTMARE.  No matter what button I pressed,
there was no way to get the information I wanted or to reach a human being -
the system would just hang up on me.  Needless to say, I was thoroughly
disgusted.

I was finally able to reach a human by calling 1-800-888-7808, through some
cosmic miracle of chance.

While we're on the topic of DAK "support", I'd like to complain a little bit
about the ROBOTS that man the 1-800-DAK-0800 credit card ordering line.  In
addition to knowning NOTHING about the products, they are unable to grant even
the simplest of requests, such as giving delivering instructions to UPS.  You
know, where they tell UPS to get a signature instead of just dropping the
package on the porch.
I was told "we don't have anywhere on the screen to put delivery instructions."

We ordered DAK's BSR stereo amplified 8Watt 2-way magnetically
shielded computer speaker system.  If I could have found another supplier for
those, I would have purchased them elsewhere.  I hate to say this because I am
a long time fan of DAK, and congratulate Mr. Kaplan on his CD-ROM marketing
push.  But, the customer service has deteriorated badly.

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4263
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 09/02/93 11:44a
Subj: Busty Babes v1.0r                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >  SG> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 >  SG> +++++++++++++++++++++I WILL GO $ 260.00
 >  SG> YOU CAN FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497 FOR MY ADDRESS AND MORE INFO

I have the CD and I'm selling it for $240.00 If you know any one that is
interrested in it they can reach me at 512-939-9822 ask for Pat! It is the very
first BB#1. Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4264
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 09/02/93 11:50a
Subj: Busty Babes for sale/trade              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > PAT- I HAVE A NEW 386DX40 MOTHERBOARD WITH 256K CACHE
 > WOULD TRADE FOR YOUR BB VOL.1
 > YOU CAN FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497 OR LEAVE A MESSAGE

If you can throw in 2 meg of simms you got a deal. The CD is in real good
condition and I think you would be pleased.
 Give me a call at 512-939-9822 or leave me your # as I really need that mother
board for my son, thanks.
                              Pat

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From: DAVID BURKE                            Number: 4265
  To: THOMAS NUFER                             Date: 09/02/93  3:07p
Subj: Re: CDROM areas                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Then you should start one ( CdRom areas ) and be the modulator!

   Just might do that, I would like a Multi-Media, Graphics
Hardware only/Software only, CDROM Hardware only /Software only
RIP graphics, and a few more Sound/Graphic based areas that are not
in FIDO or have been droped. At this rate I might have to start a
GRAPHICS NET ;-)

                                               -=- Dave


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From: DAVID BURKE                            Number: 4266
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  3:32p
Subj: Give me a break...                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> >>>>>>>>THE "HOT"??? MONTHLY SPECIALS FOR SEPT 93<<<<<<<<<<<<
->
-> GAY WORLD 1  & GAY WORLD 2,  MANPOWER,  HOT HUNKS,  BUSTY BABES
-> ADULT REFERENCE LIBRARY,  PORK-WARE 1 OR 2, SEEDYROM 1-6,  SMUTWARE
-> and last but not least TRANZ....

   OK... I give, I like to keep up to date on the latest for sale
CDROMS what is new and what is good. But the type of CDROM peddled
most in this echo has sunk to levels considered vile and against
the law in most states.
   I nor 785 active users on my BBS will be involved with peddling
the kind of things listed above. GOODBYE!

                                            -=- Dave

-=- God, created Adam & Eve not Adam & Steve...


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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 4267
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 09/01/93  9:43a
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*******  Original Msg. From: Ronald Leon  To: Jeff Jenkins  *******

>>**** Ronald Leon.....
  *
  *  Are you talking about the Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for
  * Windows?? I haven't seen that for less than $249.00 or $129.00 for
  * the upgrade. I'd like to find it cheaper though.
>>*****************************************************************************

Ronald, I just ordered this disc from Boris...I asked him specifically
if this was an, "UPDATE", Since he used this word in his ad"...Or if
it was the COMPLETE Encyclopedia...He told me it was the complete
Encyclopedia. (Price 95.00 Dollars).

I would like some more information on this if you have any.

*****
 **** ICHARD
** **

 * DeLuxe2/386 1.25 #3885 * I had a strong grip, but I had to stop, or go
blind!
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From: MICHAEL INGRAM                         Number: 4268
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/02/93  3:35a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey Boris....

In response to....

BO> Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
BO>   ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]
BO>
BO>
BO> Boris Osadciw

I need a CD Changer but prolly a little more than Bare Bones...
DOnt know a thing about installing these.  Please send one of your more
attractive secreataries (or at least heavy doc's)<G>  with any order I
happen to place to help in installation!

I currently have a standard ISA 386/40DX type BBS operating under DV.
Need pricing information for anything that may be needed in my quest...
Also wanna know what it'll charge me to get a complete set with CD's to load
those precious slots...  Saw somebodys ad somehere for a changer, loaded
with choices of BBS type cd's.  Was that you by chance?

Need prices....

Hopeless, Greedy Sysop...
Michael Ingram

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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 4269
  To: ROBERT LEDERMAN                          Date: 09/01/93  2:12a
Subj: ADAM Anatomy CD                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Does anyone know how to get a hold of the "ADAM" anatomy teaching
 > system
 > for Windows on CD?    It is supposed to be a spectacular tutorial
 > intended for medical students.

I read about this project awhile back and never heard about the teaching system
after that (we have several medical programs at our college and are on most
mailing lists).  If you do find the source, please let us know in here.
Thanks...

Daniel

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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 4270
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/01/93  2:27a
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > DH> > Hey .\\ike, I was charged $88 for Precision Mapping, what gives?  I
 > DH>You've been ripped off, rush down and call the BBB right away <G>.

 > And you've made a false accusation.  Rush down and call the Enquirer
 > right away . . . they may have a job opening for you. <G>

Thanks Mike!  It was the story they were waiting for *ALL* year long and they
cut a check for 150K...the TV program Hard Copy wanted to know if I could get
your address <G>.

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From: DANIEL HAGAN                           Number: 4271
  To: TYRONE THOMASON                          Date: 09/01/93  2:33a
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > DH>You've been ripped off, rush down and call the BBB right away <G>.

 > Yep and Mike hasn't replied yet......   Screw the BBB, I'm going to
 > the
 > President!!!  I ought to get something for my tax increase :{)
 > By the way UPS (Unclaimed Parcal Service) didn't send my disc to you
 > did they? They seem to have a problem with addresses around here.

UPS delivered about 75 BB version 1 disks here, and I of course told them my
name was Tyrone <G>.  You'd think that the readers here would be smart enough
to look around a little before approaching one of the "dealers"...most of them
here beat a dead horse telling buyers they will meet/beat competitor prices.
Was surprised to see Mike Shanahan agree to credit the guy even though the
original disks were $10 more.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4272
  To: CHRIS JOHNSON                            Date: 09/01/93  9:39p
Subj: 7TH GUEST ONLY $39!                     Refer: NONE
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CJ> MS> Well Chris, we have the King's Quest VI's in stock and selling now
CJ> MS> at $47 if you're interested.  If you don't have one yet, talk to me!

CJ>        For the CD VERSION?

Yessireebob.  They're staring me in the face!  $51 w/ shipping.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4273
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/01/93  9:39p
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
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BO>>>    Yeah, as long as they don't LOSE the darn package, like
BO>>>    they've done with mine several times.  At least with UPS or
BO>>>    Fedex you have automatic insurance coverage.  8)

BO>This is true, but we place insurance on all pakages no matter how small
BO>the amount is. It still cost less and shipping is still faster than
BO>UPS ground.

Huh?  One pound by UPS WITH $100 insurance coverage ranges from $2.28 to
$2.97, depending on zone.  One pound via Priority Mail is $3.65 with $50
insurance coverage (for which you have to stand in line at the Post
Office).  As for delivery times, we're finding that Priority Mail is
taking 2-3 days, where UPS ground is 1-3 days for most of the Western U.S.
from Washington state.

Sure, Priority Mail has a delivery time advantage for the rest of the
country, but it IS more expensive when comparing equally weighted and
insured packages, and it actually is SLOWER in some scenarios, like
shipments to Oregon, Idaho, Washington, Montana, etc., which are
overnight by UPS ground, but take 2 days by Priority Mail.

No thanks - I'll gladly give UPS my business.  1) Insurance is automatic
and paperless with no standing in line.  2) They pick up right at my door
every afternoon (twice).  3) Less expensive.  4) Quicker or equal delivery
time to most of Western U.S.  5) Package tracing in case of a snafu.

Especially that last one!  Even with insurance, it's taken me over a
month to get a settlement through the Post Office for a lost package,
where UPS has settled with me in less than a week in both the two
instances (over 6 years) where they lost something.  Maybe I'm missing
something, but when given a choice between the two, I always stick with
UPS.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4274
  To: BOB BRODOVSKY                            Date: 09/01/93  9:39p
Subj: CDs' Good Deal                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BB>Just wanted to say thanks for the great deal on the CD-ROM titles I
BB>ordered from you. They arrived 3 days after I ordered them and they are
BB>just fine. I usually am very leary of mail order but I won't hesitate to
BB>order more software from you when I need it.

Glad to hear it Bob.  Most dealers in here are good to deal with, but
especially me. <g>

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4275
  To: CLIFF RUMMENIE                           Date: 09/01/93  9:39p
Subj: CD-ROM MASTER LIST 1/2 2/               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CR>        I'm interested in a good Clipart CD of non-shareware stuff
CR>        - have Goliath Shareware disc, have access to Key
CR>        ClipMaster Pro ... what have you got?

Cliff,

We have several good ones.  If you're mostly interested in the higher
quality images of 300dpi and above, I recommend Encyclopedia of Clipart
at $26, Clipart Heaven at $25, Publique Arte at $36, and Publisher's
Dream Disc at $38.50.  The Publisher's Dream Disc is nice because it comes
with a 184-pg. book showing all the clipart, and has fonts too.

Let me know if any of these interest you.  All are in stock.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4276
  To: SAM FIGUEROA                             Date: 09/01/93  9:39p
Subj: CD ROM Drives                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SF>        What cd would you reccomend that have alot of .MODS, .VOCS, and
SF>        other sounds, also do you have any that have lots of visual
SF>        stuff as well as audio!

Sam,

The most complete collection I've found is on The Soundware Collection.  Has
over 600mb of sound files in VOC, MOD, CMF, CMS, ROL, SND, and WAV formats,
as well as being BBS-ready.  Also includes a lot of great G-rated .GIF files.
In stock at $27 if you're interested.  Can give you a better price in
quantity.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4277
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93  9:39p
Subj: SHAREWARE ONLINE #2!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #2:  TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES   |
         |________________________________________________________|

                           = new since last posting

 5-STAR PREMIUM WINDOWS * Latest Windows shareware + 950 OS2 files!.....$27
 MYSTIQUE OF THE ORIENT * 600mb movie featuring Oriental beauties (a)...$59
 PRECISION MAPPING 1.5b * Newest release! Detailed street-level map.....$79
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
 SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$37

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4278
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93  9:39p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES GALORE                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
           |____________________________________________________|

                           = new since last posting

 5-STAR PREMIUM WINDOWS * Latest Windows shareware + 950 OS2 files!.....$27
 AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK 93/94 * New release. 11,000,000 businesses.$39
 AMINET AMIGA * New from Walnut Creek. Lots of current Amiga shareware..$15
 ARIZONA IMAGES * Fabulous photos of the Arizona desert country.........$30
 CANADIAN SHAREWARE * 6500+ shareware programs ready to run from the CD.$22
 COLOR MAGIC CLIPART * 600 megs. of 3-D color clipart.  Royalty-free....$27
 FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
 GAMEWARE COLLECTION * Over 6000 of the all time best games! BBS-ready..$24
 GIGA GAMES * Brand new from Walnut Creek. Set up for 6 popular BBS's...$26
 HAMWARE 93 * The Ham's #1 source for Ham software......................$28
 KING'S QUEST VI * Newest in the KQ series. Better than 7th Guest!......$47
 MAC MULTIMEDIA SPACE * A multimedia space encyclopedia. (Mac only).....$39
 MAC SHAREWARE * Loads of innovative new Macintosh shareware programs...$24
 MICROSOFT GOLF * Multimedia Golf game that is "on par with reality"....$58
 PHOENIX 4.0 * Finally - An update to 3! Very clean CD with fresh files.$28
 PHONEDISC USA * Summer '93 edition w/ 80 million residential listings..$69
 PINACOTHECA M/M * Multimedia presentation of classical paintings.......$24
 PRECISION MAPPING 1.5b * Newest release! Detailed street-level map.....$79
 REEL CLIPS * 600mb of royalty-free digital video clips.................$44
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
 SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$37
 SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD * Totally new shareware w/ no dupes to Vault 2!....$29

                    Adult Titles (must state age 21+)
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 AMATEUR MODELS * All original images of young models. BBS-ready........$35
 BUSTY BABES 3.0 * Newest release of top-selling disc. BBS-ready........$25
 DIRTY TALK * Full-color, full-motion video w/ adult film stars.........$59
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2 * Sequel to release 1 with fresh, new images.......$36
 KAMA SUTRA * Indian documentary adult film w/ narration................$59
 LUSCIOUS LADIES * Hot new adult .GIF CD with outstanding cover art.....$37
 MYSTIQUE OF THE ORIENT * 600mb movie featuring Oriental beauties.......$59
 PHONE SEX * Actual .WAV file recordings of 900-number conversations....$27
 SEYMORE BUTTS INTERACTIVE * Fantastic new "interactive" adult film.....$49
 SOUTHERN BEAUTIES * Gorgeous photos of beautiful southern women........$30
 TOTAL FANTASY * Newly released .GIF disc from Denmark..................$33

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4279
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93  9:39p
Subj: BUSTY BABES II PREORDERS!               Refer: NONE
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           ______________________________________________________
          |                                                      |
          |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #3:  CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS   |
          |______________________________________________________|

            We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
             - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -

 BUSTY BABES II * Over 1000 new and original hi-rez scans + Showoff (a).$29
 PC-SIG 13 * Newest CD from the oldest shareware distributor............$33
 PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or 2.........$39

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4280
  To: PAUL SEDILLO                             Date: 09/01/93  1:20a
Subj: -=- Monthly Catalog -=-                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
  =-=   MONTHLY CATALOG OFFER   =-=
  =-= If you are interested in
  =-= recieving an updated
  =-= monthly catalog, send/fax
  =-= E-Mail us the following:
  =-= Name - Michael Richard Hansen
  =-= Address - 1201 N. Gonzales
  =-= Telephone Number - [phone]
  =-= FAX/BBS Number - [phone]


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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4281
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/01/93  1:29a
Subj: Cdrom Systems                           Refer: NONE
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Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare
-$1199. Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts CD's ALL
$10.00ec ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tell me a little about
groilers/and difference between dos v5 & win v1.

Thanks a Million


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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4282
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/01/93  2:28a
Subj: Os/2 Cd                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

There seems to be a dispute over a thirty dollar rebate OS/2 is
offering on v.2.1 listen....

BO>> Here's how it works, purchase OS/2 v 2.21 for $95.00 and mail in the
BO>>  rebate coupon to IBM and get a $30. rebate direct from them, bottom
BO>>  line is the new version of OS/2 is yours for only $65.

>>    Isn't the rebate only for registered users of 2.0?

Not according to what they told us at IBM.

Boris Osadciw

Now Boris if I were you I would call 1800-3IBM-OS2 again(or whatever
number you called) and ask again because either someone fibed or you
miunderstood.

In my hands presently is a copy of the SPECIAL OFFER - $30.00 REBATE
FROM IBM

I quote:

"If you are upgrading from any previouse version of the OS/2*
operating system, IBM is pleased to anounce that you can obtain a
rebate on the OS/2 2.1 product!"

Now the clincher is 'upgrading from any previouse version of the OS/2*
operating system'.

The form goes on to detail how to go about recieving your $30.00.  You
must return one of the folowing:

1. Proof of license
2. Original receipt (of previous version)
3. Certification form (I believe you get this from a authorized IBM
dealer)

The bottom line is call IBM at the above number.

* trademark of the IBM Corporation.

Michael Hansen


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4283
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/02/93 12:15p
Subj: CD's for Women                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Heather Krause to David Nghiem <=-
 HK> know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females? Title and

I'm *not* a dealer, but if you could define what you mean by "...slanted
towards females..." maybe I (and others) could suggest a few.

... What do you mean? You actually read this Tagline?!?
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4284
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/02/93 12:21p
Subj: "New" Busty Babes                       Refer: NONE
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 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to Bob Jackson <=-
 BJ>> Yes, put me down for a BB Vol II when you get some.

 LN> Hehehehe, your gonna like this disc :) It will be on the streets in
 LN> Septemeber for sure--

Actually, I was asking Mike to send me a "Rel.2" of BB since I traded
away my copy for a Rel.1 (:>  I'm counting on you to send me a "Vol.2"
BB - maybe even autographed??? =:)

... File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)
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From: THE SISTER                             Number: 4285
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93 10:46a
Subj: Adult Cd-rom Disk 4Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a copy of Storm III that is about 6 months old. It contains over
600+ megs of ADult files. This Disk was Banned in Japan. I have used it
on my BBS and I am wanting to switch Cd-Disks. This disks had both Vpic
& Cshow on it so you can view the  Gif files. It also has Several Grasp
files & Fli files. There are Viewers for both on the Rom. It is setup
so that either a BBS operator or a PC users can view them. There are
also around 1200 Nude Males on it. The Males do not have discriptions
but the females do. All Female files are in Alphbetical Directories.
The viewers are completely menu driven. Each all the females are BBS ad
Free. I paid $79.00 plus shipping for it I am asking $65.00 plus
shipping.
    I also have a copy of Animation Fantasies Vol I. This Disk retails
for $169.00 It is also completly menu driven. If includes Grasp/Dl/Fli
Gif & Text files. There are over 100 files here. I would like to get at
least $60.00 out of it. But if you want both I will take  $100.00 plus
shipping. Both have perfect Jewel Cases. & are in very good condition.
    You can contact me here in this Echo or at the following Net
addresses;
    FidoNet 1:290/13.0
    AdultLinks 69:5100/3.0
    Pixnet  116:193/0.0 116:193/1.0
    RushNet 74:650/13.0
    USpolnet 30:4/0.0 30:403/0.0 30:403/1.0 30:403/100.0
    Erosnet 106:100/0.0 106:1000/0.0 106:1000/1.0
YOU MUST BE AT LEAST 18-21 YEARS OF AGE. PLEASE PROVIDE PROOF BEFORE YOU
GO TO PURCHASE THESE!!
              Joannine Gesualdo


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 4286
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 09/02/93  2:38p
Subj: CDRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CDRoms for sale:

  ShareWare Heaven 1993              $27.00  600+ Megs of MSDOS/Win
  Hobbes OS/2  June 1993             $15.00  640+ Megs of OS/2
  Project Gutenberg  July 1993       $22.00  Tons of classic lit/history
  Source  March 1992                 $22.00  Tons of C code
  Garbo May 1992                     $15.00  600+ Megs of MSDOS/MAC
  Simtel MSDOS May 1993              $15.00  630+ Megs MSDOS
  Aminet June 1993                   $15.00  Hundreds of megs of Amiga
Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order, 2nd day priority shipping.
I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD charges.

Send checks/money orders to, and/or feel free to contact:

Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

[phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 4287
  To: DARIN CELINO                             Date: 08/31/93  6:05p
Subj: FLORIDA LION'S DEN IN                   Refer: NONE
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>I missed you too.

Lee was fairly easy to find at the One BBS Con....

 8-)


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 4288
  To: PHILIP POLSTRA                           Date: 09/01/93  2:32p
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUT                   Refer: NONE
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>I'm sure you'd love that.  Exclude the sysops by telling them they can't
>use it on their BBS and then suggest they peddle it for ya!  Only an idiot
>would run a BBS to make money as it is nearly impossible.

Odd - there are quite a few Sysops that do their BBS full-time and make quite a
bit of money at BBS Sysoping....


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From: JOHN SHEW                              Number: 4289
  To: JEFF PAZAHANICK                          Date: 08/27/93  1:09p
Subj: CDROM SPECIALS                          Refer: NONE
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 > Is the NEC36 the only SCSI?

Include the Toshibas in the SCSI category.  I've had two of 'em running
flawlessly for about 3 years.

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 4290
  To: DANIEL TSUI                              Date: 09/02/93  7:34p
Subj: Dealers WANTED !!!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Date: 11:03 am  Sat Aug 28, 1993       Number : 101 of 101
From: Daniel Tsui                      Base   : CD-Rom Items For Sale
To  : Kevin Plummer                    Refer #: None
Subj: WANTED Dealers                   Replies: None
Stat: Private                          Origin : 25 Aug 93  08:50:19

 * Reply to message in "CDROM"

 > ==========>>>>>>  W A N T E D     D E A L E R S
 > <<<<<<===========

 >   Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers

 >                    Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
 >                          Darrel Rivenbark


kevin, I live in australia and do not have access to a fax. Is Darrel
contactable on fidonet? I would be interested in dealing his CD's. Perhaps
you
or he could send me a dealer price list via netmail. I looking to buy
initially about 50 or so.

daniel


*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B*[B
Daniel,

  If you could Please send me your Phone Number, Or a Fax Number to reach you
by,!

                        .....|<evin

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 4291
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  7:35p
Subj: Night Owl 9 $25                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                  N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0
 ******************************************************************
 *********                                                *********
 ***********           $ 25.00 a Copy !!!               ***********
 *********                                                *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 *********               Ask for Barney                   *********
 ***********           ------------------               ***********
 *********               1-800-638-5757                   *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 *********           We Will NOT be out Sold              *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 ******************************************************************
                  N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0

       ---->>>>>  BBS Ready - Has Files.bbs  <<<<<----

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From: CRIS BOYER                             Number: 4292
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  9:55p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Can anyone tell me where to find a good, cheap CDROM drive I can get around
or in the city of Royal Oak,Michigan? Thanx.

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From: CARL SLAWINSKI                         Number: 4293
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/02/93  9:10p
Subj: Re: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUEAUT            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ahoy Lee!

On <Tuesday August 31 1993>, Lee Noga was mumbling to Bob Jackson:

 LN> Hehehehe, your gonna like this disc :) It will be on the streets in
 LN> Septemeber for sure--
 LN>
 -=*>> Lee<*=-

What's the story on Busty Babes and such. At ONE BBSCON you stated that you
were no longer selling BB and the others and that you would come out with some
new ones. Unfortunately I was at one of the BBS for profit for sessions and had
to buy the tape on Dealing with Adult Gifs. Of course, I heard that you had
dropped it and also I live in one of the cities on your list. I picked up Busty
Babes from the Chicago something or other CD booth. He said that he bought them
directly from you and I was curious, why you would have him sell them at ONE
BBSCON if you were in fact dropping them and recommending that they not me
placed on BBS'. I mean it goes without saying that 95% of the people their were
sysops. I ask him about this at the time of purchase (before I heard the tape)
because their were some rumors floating around the convention regarding this.

Something to sit on the shelf or sell though. Maybe I could put up the ones
that don't have an penetration shots and such??? (I'm asking)

Are these new disks that you are producing suitable for a market such as
say.......Memphis, Tn??  8-)


Thanks for any info that you can provide me with in this area.




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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 4294
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/01/93  9:59a
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>customers who have asked me to match other dealers prices, and in the
MS>interest of good customer relations I'll honor your request.  Call anytime
MS>if you have any other comments or questions.

.\\ike,

You've just made a customer for life [Boy I hate these corny moments
;{)].  Oh, by the way, my last order arrived yesterday evening.

       Ty.

 * OLX 2.1 TD * Hello, I am part number ||#||||#||#||#||


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From: ED DUCHEK                              Number: 4295
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/02/93  4:33p
Subj: NEW CD                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris,

Answering a msg of <30 Aug 93>, from Boris Osadciw to All:

whats the total MB's in the 4disk set that you just advertised?  Might be
talking to you soon if its a decent amount...


Ed Duchek
[phone]

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4296
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 09/03/93  2:34a
Subj: Re: OS/2                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Hello Boris!

>>    Sunday August 29 1993, Boris Osadciw writes to All:

 BO>> ==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ====================
 BO>>                               IN STOCK
 BO>>  Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21
 BO>>  package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and
 BO>>  other special discounts for only $65.00!

>>    When did OS/2 v2.21 come out?  I thought I was running the
>>    latest version (v2.1).  ;-)


It's been out for a while now, as I understand it.

Boris Osadciw

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From: CAM LERCH                              Number: 4297
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93 10:38a
Subj: CD disk catalog                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All,

I was wondering if anyone out there has a CD disk Catalog that I could
recieve.. I'm realy interested in buying a CD disk and I would like to know
that exact size of files on each disk.. any suggestions?

**Cam**

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From: ROSS LAFLEUR                           Number: 4298
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  5:22p
Subj: CD Changer                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello!  This is Ross, SysOp at Fantasy Island in Charlotte, NC... I would like
to get some CD's on-line here... Night Owl mabye, some others, anyway, I would
just like to know how much a used CD-Changer would be..  Cheapest possible
I'm sort of short of funds.... :)

                                       Thanks


                                               Ross

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From: MARC KULAK                             Number: 4299
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/02/93 12:00p
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Michellea!

Tuesday August 31 1993, Michellea Sorensen writes to All:

 MS>                                         Cdn$   US$
 MS>             Night Owl 9                   35    26

 MS>      Shareware Studio I Free with purchase of Night Owl 9

How would you get this to me?? I am in Canada, Do you do a C.O.D?? Or a
Visa/MasterCard over the phone?  What about shipping?? Etc.

                Marc

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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 4300
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/22/93  1:30a
Subj: 3DO CD ROM system                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anuone have any information on this system? I was rading a artical that
said it well run Animals CD an d stuff. Is the 3 DO able to hook up to
the computer of it be a seperate game system?
      thanks on any comments..
             ken

... Glad To Be Here..
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From: CHIP MORROW                            Number: 4301
  To: ZACHARY HAMM                             Date: 09/02/93  8:30a
Subj: 7TH GUEST CD-ROM FOR SALE               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ZH> 7th guest CD-ROM.  New in box with docs and VHS tape on how the game was
ZH> made.

ZH> $40.00 plus shipping.

Sold.  Contact me voice after 6pm EST at 614-366-2296, or netmail to
1:226/1420 for arrangements.


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From: PHILIPPE RENARD                        Number: 4302
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/27/93 10:23p
Subj: Problem with Mitsumi CD-ROM'S Drive     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello,

I have two mitsumi cd-rom drive in my PC (= 2 cards controler)

My question : It's possible to chain this drives and how ?


Today                               It's Possible ?
-----                               ---------------

┌───────┐    ┌───────┐            ┌───────┐    ┌───────┐
│Drive 1│    │Drive 2│            │Drive 1│    │Drive 2│
└───────┘    └───────┘            └───────┘    └───────┘
   │││          │││                  \\\          ///
 ┌──────┐    ┌───────┐                \\\        ///
 │Contr.│    │Contr. │                 \\\      ///
 └──────┘    └───────┘                  \\\    ///
                                          \\\///
                                           │││
                                         ┌──────┐
                                         │Contr.│
                                         └──────┘

Thank you for your helping

Philippe Renard

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From: HENRY PAUL                             Number: 4303
  To: JIM CLEMENTS                             Date: 09/02/93 10:36p
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Henry, my understanding was that they were looking at cdrom, but
-> only selling it as a optional extra with the complete paper
-> encyclopedia. Can you tell us any more about it? Cheers!
Yeah, that's the line we got fed at the fair...
I know I've seen it in an ad somewhere for about $100 I think it was..
I can't remember though...
                        Henry

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From: JOHN DILDAY                            Number: 4304
  To: RICHARD NIXON                            Date: 09/02/93  8:14p
Subj: TOSHIBA 3401B FOR SALE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

i'll take it,
call me during business hours
919 362-8212


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From: STEVE KRUEGER                          Number: 4305
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93  8:13a
Subj: BB cd rom                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey guys...does the Busty Babes CD show any "PINK"???

Inquiring minds want to know...Id be interested if is showed some PINK!!

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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 4306
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/02/93 11:46a
Subj: Showoff Interface                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to Mark Walker <=-

 MW>>  LN> SHOWOFF is our baby now in this industry, and you will see
 MW>>  LN>     her on our 2 disc's coming out in September--

 LN> Whatcha' want to know, and I will fill your ears :)

Lee, I got BB 3, with SHOWOFF.  FYI, I couldn't get it to work with
the right colors on my screen. (I have a VGA monitor with a Paradise
16 card - WD chip).  I called the 800 number for help, and Dan Graboi
was very helpful, but said I needed SVGA card to really see the colors.

The idea of having multiple miniature images on the screen is nice,
but if one can't see them, not too good.  Also, I don't run a mouse
unless needed, and don't load the driver for it. When I tried to
install the SHOWOFF, it blipped me and said mouse was required, which
of course it was.

I believe the instructions should state that SVGA is required if it is,
and that a mouse is required.  Not everyone has those yet.  Or, is
there a workaround?  Yes, I tried the SOCD16 startuup and got a black
screen that had the menu at the bottom, and I had to warm boot to get
out since I couldn't see the areas to click on.

I resorted to the old familiar Cshow and CDMENU, and reviewed most of
the directories.  Fun CD.




... If love is blind, why is lingerie so thin?
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12


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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4307
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  7:43p
Subj: NEW CD-ROMS!                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

New and Hot at CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA, its the DR. CDROM series!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Dr. Music - Music Editors, MOD, MIDI, ROL, SND, VOC, WAV and more!
Dr. Shareware - 615 megs of shareware programs and utilities!
Dr. Games - Adventure, Arcade, Card, Sports, Strategy, Puzzles, more!
Dr. Windows - 3400+ files of MS Windows 3.x programs and utilities!
                                             ...and they're BBS Ready!
In Canadian Dollars: $80 for all four, or $28 each (all applicable
   taxes included)  In U.S. Dollars - $57 for all four, or $19.95 each
** CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA ** 306-789-4654 Voice / 789-8690 Fax
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4308
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/02/93  8:05p
Subj: ADULT CD FOR TRADE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->   Maybe one of these days someone will come out with a good CD full
-> of
->   adult material for us ladies. And hopefully it'll be husband-proof.
->   I'd hate for hubby to realize that I'm enjoying such things!  ;-)
->
->   Just to keep this on track as a "For Sale" message... Does anyone
->   know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females? Title and
->   price, dealers?

Hi Heather!

   Well, I know exactly what you mean. Being a woman myself, as well as
a wife, I understand this, but I've got one up on the men. I own my own
CD-ROM company! Hey, and as for discs for us ladies, I still haven't
found one, but Hot Hunks sounds like it might be promising. ;-)

   Gimme a call sometime 306-789-4654, and we'll discuss the politics of
men and their "adult" discs. (Which are NEVER wife-proof).

   .\\ichellea
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From: DAVID HEYDRICK                         Number: 4309
  To: JOHN DUIJS                               Date: 09/02/93  4:11p
Subj: Gay Roms??                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

John,

     Thanks for the critique.  It sounds as if we are of similar
     preference :)  Although the price on the ROM is a little steep
     for me at the moment.  However I will look into it.


     My taste runs more to the text file than the Gif, since
     it is easier for me to find text files to my preference than
     Gifs.  But alas, I have a large collection of text files
     and it is hard for me to find new ones that I have not
     seen.  Is there any European BBS's that you know of, that
     carry large text file sections (in English)?

     I have been to your county once, and loved it.  I hope to
     visit again in the next year or two.

                                              Thanks again,
                                                David

... On a queer day, you can see forever!
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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 4310
  To: DAVID BURKE                              Date: 09/02/93 11:45p
Subj: Re: CDROM areas                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DB> -> Then you should start one ( CdRom areas ) and be the modulator!
 DB>
 DB>    Just might do that, I would like a Multi-Media, Graphics
 DB> Hardware only/Software only, CDROM Hardware only /Software only
 DB> RIP graphics, and a few more Sound/Graphic based areas that are not
 DB> in FIDO or have been droped. At this rate I might have to start a
 DB> GRAPHICS NET ;-)
     ^^^^^^^^
  Already exists.  Fairly busy echo right now, discussing POV/Raytraceing.
  Why not include an all inclusive CD Hardware echo?

  Trying to keep out of trouble soooo---are you a dealer selling CDs?  How
  about posting a list of what you have available.

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4311
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/03/93  1:48a
Subj: BRAND NEW CD'S IN STOCK!                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm interested in the Canadian Shareware & the Gameware Collection. Is
there any chance that you could give me some more details on exactly
what they contain? THANKS A LOT!!!

                       -Jason

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4312
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/03/93  2:10a
Subj: RED HOT                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm interested in the "Jokes/Pranks or 1001 Util" CD. Could you please
give me more details as to what it contains? THANKS A LOT!!

                       -Jason

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From: MAX GREEN                              Number: 4313
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/03/93  9:56p
Subj: BUSTY BABES II PREORDERS!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (01 Sep 93) Mike Shannon wrote to All...
 MS>            ______________________________________________________
 MS>           |                                                      |
 MS>           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #3:  CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS   |
 MS>           |______________________________________________________|
 MS>
 MS>             We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
 MS>
 MS>  BUSTY BABES II * Over 1000 new and original hi-rez scans + Showoff
 MS> (a).$29

  O.K. Mike your persistant arm twisting leaves me no choice other than to
  honor your pre-order offer.  You have my ordering info on file so lets
  do it.  BTW, any idea when SHE ships?  A 73 day window would be fine for
  my planning purposes.<g>  Also when you ship this order please include
  four CD Jewel cases (hope the cost is > $1.00 each), got so excited I
  tore the cover off of one of those HOT CDs.  May happen again too so I
  just want to be ready.

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 4314
  To: PHILIPPE RENARD                          Date: 09/03/93  7:26a
Subj: Re: Problem with Mitsumi CD-ROM'S Drive  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Hello,
> I have two mitsumi cd-rom drive in my PC (= 2 cards controler)
> My question : It's possible to chain this drives and how ?
Hi Phil,
No it is not possible. TTYL

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From: MANNY CASAO                            Number: 4315
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93  1:15p
Subj: WANTED: CDTV                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking to buy a Commodore CDTV Unit.

A stock unit is fine.


Manny



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*  My opinions are my own and you may not copy  *    City Nights BBS   *
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From: KEVIN MCDERMOTT                        Number: 4316
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93 12:22p
Subj: The 7TH Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Would anyone be willing to sell their used copy of T7G for $30?
(CompUSA's price is REALLY good, but I just don't have the money :)).
           Kevin


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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 4317
  To: MICHAEL CROSSON                          Date: 09/01/93 12:08p
Subj: Re: Jem Disk Trade In                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

.

28 Aug 93, Michael Crosson writes to All:

   MC> Send us your old CD-Rom (in good condition) and $14.95 and we'll
   MC> send you Jem Disc I shareware CD-Rom collection..... The current
   MC> price without trade in is $19.95 plus S/H so this deal represents
   MC> a savings of $10.

$19.95
-14.95
------
$ 5.00 savings, not $10, unless you are including shipping on this item.

                                                  - Arnie :+}

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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 4318
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 09/01/93 12:11p
Subj: Re: Seventh Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

.

   MH> GOT A COPY OF THE SEVENTH GUEST FOR TRADE.

   MH> INTERESTED IN AN ENCLYPODIA (EXCUSE MY SPELLING) OR POSSIBLY
   MH> OTHER GAMES. NOT INTERESTED IN SHAREWARE OR XXX CD'S

Interested in any of the following?:

GROUP ONE -

FontMaster CD Library           Over 5000 files in 100+ directories

Nautilus (March 1993)           Features Karaoke and Photo CD images

GROUP TWO -

HyperText Electronic Library    Programmers reference and more

Magazine Article Summaries      Includes the full text of 32 magazines
                                1984-92, and summaries of 300 more

Marketing Master                Custom search and sort, print labels, more


Dataware Demo Disc              Two excellent retrieval engines (one is
                                hypertext) & over a dozen usable data bases

Hypertext Information Base      AIX 3.2, includes ADA, AIX, CXX, FORTRAN, NAV,
                                GRAPH, HARDWARE, PASCAL, PROG, and UIPROG

Tax Prep and Business Programs  Shareware compilation includes BUSINESS, DAYO,
                                CHURCH, HOME, MISC, PLANNER, STOCK and TAX

LaserTax                        Tax Preparation tool and forms library - req.
                                Windows 3.1 and 4mb RAM.

Federal Register                V56 #100 through V56 #226.  Approx 500 mb of
                                data including the full text of all volumes



I'd be willing to trade one of the discs in group one PLUS two of the discs
in group two (a total of THREE discs) for Seventh Heaven.

If you want information on any of the discs, call me (voice) at
[phone] (M-F, 9-5) or at home [phone].

                                        - Arnie :+}

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From: CHARLEY WEBB                           Number: 4319
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93  9:08a
Subj: wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for 2 Sony CDU-535-1 CD-Rom drives. If anyone is selling one,
leave me a message and a price.


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From: JOHN PIMENTEL                          Number: 4320
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  6:56a
Subj: CD CADDIES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Where (other than Mike Shannon -- NOTE nothing against Mike, but I need a
comparison) can CD Caddies be bought and how much??



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From: SID LEE                                Number: 4321
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/03/93  7:30p
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Boris Osadciw <=-

 MS> No thanks - I'll gladly give UPS my business.  1) Insurance is
 MS> automatic and paperless with no standing in line.  2) They pick up
 MS> right at my door every afternoon (twice).  3) Less expensive.  4)

 I've always understood they were pretty good in the States but
 they are terrible in Canada. When stuff comes in from outside
 the country they hold it in some remote part of the country and
 stick the addressee for a customs clearance fee and duty etc.
 before they will unhand the parcel. They have a minimum charge
 which is of the order of $20-$30 before they will even talk to
 you and it is cash on the barrel head. Contrast that with Fed Ex
 and others who deliver the parcel to the door or allow you to
 come and bail it out charging only the duty and sales tax. Many
 of my contacts here instruct any foreign shipper not to use UPS
 and refuse the package if it comes that route. It is just too
 expensive here!

 -- Regards --

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4322
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93  1:35p
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm clearing out my shareware and misc. CD collection.  All CDs listed are
in like-new condition and are priced at $5.00 each. Please add $3.00 postage
PER ORDER.  Post here or call [phone] to reserve or confirm
availability. Will consider trades for adult CDs.

CD Winbox               CD Powerbox            Encyclopedia of ClipArt
Colossal Cookbook       Cookbook Heaven        World of Flight
World of Trains         Bibles & Religion      Phoenix 3.0
SDN-1 Plus              Ham Radio              Dictionaries & Languages
Mega Win/OS2            Mega A/V               Mega ROM 1
Mega ROM 2

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 4323
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93  8:56p
Subj: Help                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi everyone once again,  I have a few questions about the CD-ROM drives.  OK,
about 1 year ago I bought a EXTERNAL NEC cd-rom drive,  costed me about $620
Canadian and it came with about 10 discs, it's Kinda slow, 800ms,  I am
wondering about how much one of those CD-ROM things that you can copy onto and
howmuch would a disc be?


    Also,  I am in my teens...  I got my really cool Laser 386/SX 20Mhz
computer and it's on it's second year... I got the CD-rOM and the Odd time
since it's said "Not ready reading Drive A:" (Or B,  Just my floppies not my
Hard Drive or CD-ROM) and it wrecks the Floppys.  How much would it cost to
fix.   I don't know to much about computers,  thats why I need help.... Lots of
it.

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From: J. ALLEN                               Number: 4324
  To: MICHAEL CROSSON                          Date: 09/02/93  7:08p
Subj: Re: Jem Disk CD-Rom Trade In Sale       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MC> Send us your old CD-Rom (in good condition) and $14.95 and we'll send
MC> you Jem Disc I shareware CD-Rom collection.  Jem Disc was printed last

MC> The current price without trade in is $19.95 plus S/H so this deal
MC> represents a savings of $10.  HURRY - offer ends 9/15/93!

JA>   I come up with $5.00.  How do you get to $10.00 savings?

MC>Thanks for the mini consumer math lesson J, but my original post is
MC>correct. Shipping and Handling is FREE if you take advantage of the
MC>trade-in special. Since S/H is normally $5.00 and we took $5.00 off
MC>the price, that comes exactly one Franklin!

Why don't you account for the cost of shipping and for the value of the
disk (I left out the disk value before)that is required to be traded to
receive this "Savings".  Show your figures, like I have done below.

          current price Jem disk       $19.95
           trade-in price              $14.95
                                     ----------
            Savings                     $5.00
            S/H "Savings" on JEM        $5.00
                                       -------
        Sub Total (claimed "Savings")  $10.00

  Subtract S/H on old disk trade-in
           that is *required* to
           obtain savings             -($5.00)

  Subtract value of disk you must
           trade-in (this disk must
           have a value because it
           needs to be "in good
           condition")                -($5.00) (or more??)
 ============================================================

                   Grand Total Savings  $0.00  <----  (or worse)

    Where's the Beef???

/

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From: THOMAS NUFER                           Number: 4325
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  8:52p
Subj: MultiMedia Encyclopedia                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I ahve a copy of the Software Toolbox's Multimedia Encyclopedia CD to sell or
trade!Will trade even up for any XXX CD(except Busty Babes)!Would prefer a
Storm or even Swimware CD!

Call 1-616-344-3329 ask for Tom1

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 4326
  To: ANDREW MURPHY                            Date: 09/01/93  5:05p
Subj: GIF/ANIM DISKS ?                        Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

>What is a good video disk for BBS use?  Looking for G Gifs of everything under
>the sun.

So Much Screenware or GIFs Galore should fit this....


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From: J. ALLEN                               Number: 4327
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/03/93 10:33a
Subj: Re: Busty babes #1                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 31 Aug 93  23:37:40 , Doug Carpenter said this to Doug Snell:

 > only please.  Thank you!
DC>  DS> What make BB #1 so valuable?
DC>
DC> It has copyrighted scans on it...

That would make selling or reselling it copyright infringment.  Wasn't there
a dealer claiming (or asking) large resell amounts for copies of that disks
in this echo?

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From: HARVEY BRODY                           Number: 4328
  To: CRIS BOYER                               Date: 09/03/93  8:20p
Subj: CD-ROM Drive                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Get the latest issue of Computer Shopper, Processor Mag, or Nuts and Bolts
Mag, then go hunting..
                               Harvey
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From: HARVEY BRODY                           Number: 4329
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 09/03/93  8:21p
Subj: Dealers WANTED !!!                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm interested my tel number is: 518-393-5157, Central NYS and Boston.
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4330
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93  7:31a
Subj: EXCELLENT DISC & PRICE                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          *******   **  **  ***** ****** **    **
 $19US    **    **  **  **  **      **    **  **
          *******   **  **  *****   **     ****
$25Cdn    **    **  **  **     **   **      **
          *******    ****   *****   **      **

We've got BUSTY BABES... The best adult disc, period.
Features thousands of sizzling pictures of the bustiest
babes in North America including (yes!) Canadian gals
who bare all! Also includes the new generation image
viewer/manager SHOWOFF (it rocks!), and it's BBS Ready.

------->   Just 19 US or 25 Canadian Dollars. <--------

   .\\ichellea

CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
6 Armstrong Bay, Regina, Sk., S4N 4G7
306-789-4654 Voice
306-789-8690 Fax
306-789-8690 Online BBS Ordering
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From: STEPHEN THOMPSON                       Number: 4331
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93  9:17p
Subj: Wanted CDROM for SBPRO                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

Does anyone have an external CDROM for a soundblaster pro
that they want to sell? Or does anyone know of brands that
I can hook up to a SBPRO?

Please reply here or netmail me.

Thanks, Stephen

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From: LOYD CRAFT                             Number: 4332
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  2:52a
Subj: Custom cdrom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

         D i g i t a l

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                Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
    Take those GIFS off of tape!  CD is much more convenient!

  o In MOST cases, 24 hour turnaround is possible.
  o Free shipping via Two day US. Priority Mail. Overnight UPS RED Label
    shipping is $15 extra.
  o Our charge for a full 650 Megabyte disk is $144.   If your disk has
    less than 144 megabytes on it, we charge $1 per megabyte, minimum $90.
  o Duplicates of the same disk are $55 each.
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 ---------------------------
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4333
  To: ALBERT AFONSO                            Date: 09/04/93  2:54a
Subj: Re: Mm encyclopedia                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    I was looking for v2.0 if I could find it. Anyway, how about
>>    $25+COD Shipping? If you are intersted, let me know and I will
>>    send you my address.

>>    Take care,

Albert, we have v2.0 in stock and you can have it for $30.

If your interested, please feel free to call us at 216-225-3263
anytime and I'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4334
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/04/93  2:54a
Subj: RED HOT CD'S                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 CD POWERBOX/WINDOWS - $20         COMPTONS ENCYC UPGRADE   - $95.
 GAME OR SOUNDWARE   - $25.        ALL CHESTNUT TITLES      - $10.
 HACKER CHRONICAL    - $18.        JOKES/PRANKS - 1001 UTIL - $10.
 NIGHT OWL 9.0       - $25.        KINGS QUEST VI           - $47.
 SO-MUCH-SHAREWARE 3 - $29.        TOOLWORKS ENCYC DOS/WIN  - $49.
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER  - $59.        9000 SOUNDS              - $25.
 SOFTWARE VAULT 2    - $20.        5 STAR PREM DOS/WIN      - $29.
 DR.CD COLLECTION - 4 CD'S - $55.  PC KARAOKE W/MICROPHONE  - $89.
 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) - TECH 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4335
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/04/93  2:54a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $289.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1199.  -SCSI
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00  Texel Ext 265ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00  Texel Ext Complete    - $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $439.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $569.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00  Mitsumi w/Sound Card  - $325.00 -PRPR
 Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50.  ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

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From: BRIAN ROMANCHICK                       Number: 4336
  To: EVERYONE                                 Date: 09/03/93 10:51p
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

FOR SALE OR TRADE. BUSTY BABES AND HOT PICS VOL.3
25.00

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From: MICHAEL COLLIER                        Number: 4337
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/03/93 10:13a
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HK>
HK>    Being a "wife" myself, I've had to avoid all these luscious-soundi
HK>    CDs since I'd obviously be unable to use them. Geee... I guess tha
HK>    it means:
HK>
HK>    1)  Females are physically or mentally unable to open the CD case?
HK>    2)  Wives are obviously computer-phobes and wouldn't think to get
HK>        a directory listing to see what's on the disk?
HK>    3)  The lady of the house would only be incensed by such adult
HK>        material, and therefore must be "protected" from it by having
HK>        hubby hide the evidence?
HK>    4)  Nobody but males read the CDROM ads and would ever realize tha
HK>        such trickery occurs...
HK>
HK>    Maybe one of these days someone will come out with a good CD full
HK>    adult material for us ladies. And hopefully it'll be husband-proof
HK>    I'd hate for hubby to realize that I'm enjoying such things!  ;-)
HK>
HK>    Just to keep this on track as a "For Sale" message... Does anyone
HK>    know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females? Title and
HK>    price, dealers?


  I think a good idea might be, ala Ms. Sorensen from up here in Canada,
for the CDrom vendors in this conference, most of which are male, to
graciously donate pictures of themselves au natural (and more!) for just
such a compilation. I mean fair is fair don't you think... Now what would
be a good name... Cute *icks: Read Only Males.... and then we could do a
Gay disc as well!



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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4338
  To: TYRONE THOMASON                          Date: 09/02/93  8:15p
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TT>Yep and Mike hasn't replied yet......   Screw the BBB, I'm going to the
TT>President!!!  I ought to get something for my tax increase :{)

Tyrone,

I DID reply to you in a fairly lengthy message.  If you did not receive it,
give me a call @ 509-457-2892.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4339
  To: RON RICHMOND                             Date: 09/02/93  8:15p
Subj: Canadian sales                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>>>       because I cannot get the disk to them from Customs.and they
BO>>>       would have to pick it up at the P.O. I chose to abandon the
BO>>>       disk, as this would be almost as much as the original cost.

BO>We have shipped hundreds of adult cd's to Canada and never had a problem
BO>with customes. In fact, we just shipped a major order to Ontario and the
BO>customer received it with ease and NO CUSTOM FEE's.

We have never had a package seized by Canadian customs either.  In fact,
after 6 years in this business, and shipping hundreds (if not thousands) of
adult CD's overseas and to Canada, only one has ever been confiscated, and
that was to Great Britain.  Even then, I was able to collect my insurance
settlement from the U.S. Postal Service, and I re-shipped another CD to
my customer, which he received.  My personal opinion is that this customs
seizure thing is somewhat overblown.  If the product is packaged and
labeled properly, Canadians have very little to worry about concerning
their shipments from the U.S.

Just my 2-cents worth,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4340
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  8:15p
Subj: CD-ROM LIQUIDATION                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #4:  CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!   |
         |________________________________________________________|

            All sales are final - Sale limited to stock on hand!

                              GENERAL TITLES
                              --------------
Q & A 4.0...........$34   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15   House of Games......$20
Compton's Interact..$95   US Wars: Korea......$29   US Wars: Des. Storm.$29
US Wars: Vietnam....$29   US Wars: WWII.......$29   Guinness Disc 92....$16
Amiga AB-20.........$13   Super CD 1..........$14   Game Pack 2.........$22
Canadian Shareware..$19   MAC Shareware.......$22   Jedi Collection.....$39
Original S/W 1993...$10   Conan the Cimmerian.$27   Reel Clips..........$35
Kodak Photo CD......$18   Phoenix 3.0.........$12   Ham Radio 3.0.......$10
Lion's Share........$20   Clipart Galore......$25   Window Master.......$17
Windoware...........$10   Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$22   Great Wonders.......$32
Top 2000 Shareware..$18   Software Vault 1....$17   Return to the Moon..$26

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4341
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  8:15p
Subj: LATEST SHAREWARE CD!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |  Title:  SHAREWARE ONLINE #2  |  |   Price:  $37   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

          This outstanding new CD is the ABSOLUTE NEWEST and MOST
   UP-TO-DATE shareware CD available!  All files are dated 1993 with the
  exception of five program sets, giving you a full array of late-release
             shareware, dated between January and August 1993!

 * Fully BBS ready with file listings in six different formats, including
   FILES.BBS, for use with virtually any BBS system.  File lists are in
   every directory, and also a master text directory.
 * No dupes to release 1.
 * 623mb total occupied disc space.
 * 4200+ total files.
 * Improved Shareware Online file retrieval system.
 * All files dated 1/93 to 8/93.
 * Separate directory of ANSI pictures for sysops.

 Don't be fooled by the lower file count on ShareWare OnLine.  ONLY
 QUALITY PROGRAMS are included on this disc.  Very few text files and
 "junk" which makes file numbers high...

       MASTER DIRECTORY INFORMATION FOR: ShareWare OnLine Vol. #2

     DIRECTORY NAME     # OF FILES     TOTAL DIR SIZE    AVERAGE FILE SIZE
   -----------------------------------------------------------------------
       \ANSIPIC              24           2,689,465           112,061
       \ARCHIVER             41           4,172,687           101,773
       \BBSDOORS            112          17,553,296           156,726
       \BBS_SOFT            228          26,881,458           117,901
       \CAD                  42           6,270,163           149,290
       \CLIPART              75          18,175,874           242,345
       \COMM1               198          18,774,740            94,822
       \COMM2               162          22,958,736           141,721
       \DATABASE            128          20,790,364           162,425
       \DEMOS                85          45,597,484           536,441
       \DESK                 33           6,753,341           204,647
       \EDUCATE              68          11,723,020           172,397
       \ELECMAIL             95           8,681,269            91,382
       \FINANCE             127          26,224,848           206,495
       \GAMES1              221          31,420,660           142,175
       \GAMES2              209          27,878,576           133,390
       \GRAPHICS            121          21,256,628           175,675
       \HAM                  35           3,103,623            88,675
       \HOBBY                53           9,630,653           181,710
       \INFOR               177          10,400,453            58,760
       \LINUX                30          29,337,500           977,917
       \MISC                139          21,399,340           153,952
       \MUSIC               184          33,523,012           182,190
       \NETWORK              43           6,746,650           156,899
       \OS2                 124          21,254,494           171,407
       \PICTURE             282          45,412,660           161,038
       \PRINTING             24           3,185,427           132,726
       \PROG                 90          12,857,472           142,861
       \TRUETYPE            277          15,218,836            54,942
       \UTIL1               184          16,319,479            88,693
       \UTIL2               112          12,274,360           109,593
       \VIRUS                25           3,063,903           122,556
       \WIN1                168          22,268,988           132,554
       \WIN2                144          23,869,468           165,760
       \WORD                155          15,094,726            97,385
   ------------------------------------------------------------------
   T O T A L S:           4,215         622,763,648           147,749

Special offer:  Get Shareware Online 1 AND 2 for only $57!  Best of 92/93.
                >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
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From: SAL PEDONE                             Number: 4342
  To: ALBERT AFONSO                            Date: 09/03/93 11:39p
Subj: Mm encyclopedia                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Hello Sal!
->
-> 27 Aug 93 00:35, Sal Pedone wrote to Albert Afonso:
->
-> SP>    I have an unopened copy of Comptons MM Ency for windows
-> v1.01w... SP>    Asking $45 plus shipping...if interested give me a
-> call or echo here
-> I was looking for v2.0 if I could find it. Anyway, how about $25+COD
-> Shipping? If you are intersted, let me know and I will send you my
-> address.
->
-> Take care,
->
-> Albert Afonso

  Will go $30 shipped prepaid..Will not do a cod on such a low cost
  item...SEnd Check or MO for $30 to:
  Sal Pedone
  107 Champagne Dr.
  Byron, GA  31008

  912-956-5163  6pm-9pm EST

  Let me know...Sal


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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4343
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/03/93 12:27p
Subj: PC-SIG                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC>Go for Nightowl....don't waste your time with PC Sig...

  Can you please give me some details on what Nightowl is? I don't know
anything about it. THANKS!!

                       -Jason

P.S.- How do the prices compare, too, please?

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From: SHADOW SMITH                           Number: 4344
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/03/93 12:54p
Subj: Looking for:                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

No particular interest, just looking for a list and cost if that's
available.  More tuned to the adult side of things.

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4345
  To: ROBERT LEDERMAN                          Date: 09/03/93 10:24p
Subj: Oxford English Dictionary               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RL>Does anybody have the complete Oxford English Dictionary on CD?
RL>How is it?
RL>How big is it?
RL>Where did you buy it?

RL>Would anybody sell it to me cheap?
RL>Thanks
RL>RJL


If you get any leads, PLEASE let me know! I have ALL of the EXACT same
questions. So, if you get answers, PLEASE relay them to me too. THANKS A
LOT!!

                               -Jason

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4346
  To: MIKE CICCOLINI                           Date: 09/03/93 10:28p
Subj: Question about CD-ROM?                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MC>To all you experts out there,

MC> I own a Sound Blaster, (not the PRO but the 1.5 non-stereo) and
MC> was wondering if I bought a CD-ROM would installation be smooth
MC> or would there be some problems with finding drivers or some
MC> other compatibility problems. I have been told that it would
MC> be better if I sold my SBlaster and bought a multi-media kit.
MC> I'd rather not do that if I can use my own SBlaster.
MC> Thanks for any advice!!!

Hi! I'm hardly an expert but I just recently bought an external CD-ROM
drive (came w/ controller) and installed it into my computer (already
contained, Regular SB, Modem, Mouse, Printer, & Monitor) & I had no
compatibility problems. I had to move the IRQ setting to the next switch
but it was really easy & everything works great! Lemme know if you need
any help & I'll do my best (I can only speak from experience though b/c
I am not an expert - just a computer-literate, experienced user <G>)

                       -Jason

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4347
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/03/93 10:35p
Subj: UPDATED CD PRICE LIST 1/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike,

  I'm very interested in the following titles. Please give me more
details on exactly what they contain if you can. Hopefully I'll be
ordering shortly - it sounds like your clients are always satisfied! :)

               1001 Utilities
               Middle East Diary
               World Factbook
               Reader's Library
               Desktop Bookshop
               Dictionaries & Language

THANKS A LOT!!!!

                               -Jason

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4348
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/03/93 10:39p
Subj: UPDATED CD PRICE LIST 2/2               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Two More I'm interested in:  Time Magazine Computer Almanac & the KGB
World Factbook.  Please send me more details on exactly what they
contain & hopefully I'll have an order to so shortly thereafter.
THANKS!!

                               -Jason

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4349
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/03/93 10:51p
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm interested in Nightowl 9 and/or Shareware Studio II -- could you
please give me more detailed info on what they both contain? THANKS A
LOT!!!

                       -Jason

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From: STEVE KRUEGER                          Number: 4350
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 09/03/93  8:43p
Subj: RE: MITSUMI                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>
> Subj: MITSUMI (105/150) From: Brice Fleckenstein To : Mike Guidry
> Date: 08/31/93 12:54:00
>
>
> > BN> Would anyone be kind enough to leave me a response on what >
> BN> sound cards does mitsumi 350ms cd roms support?
>
> >I don't know that it directly runs off of any
>
> ATI FX/CD and one other that I know of (SOund Galaxy?)....
>
>
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>
Im using a soundblaster card on mine the soundblaster 16
steve krueger'


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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 4351
  To: SAL PEDONE                               Date: 09/04/93  5:33a
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sold, will call you.
-Jeff


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 4352
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 09/04/93 12:38a
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jeff Jenkins beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

JJ>I believe you are refering to Microsoft Encarta, it runs about 250 or
JJ>so... but Comptons MM encyclopedia runs around 50.00  check out the ad
JJ>here. I have seen it  a dozon times from about 49.00-66.00

Nope. Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia for Windows is $299.00 at Comp
USA Tamp, $297.00 at Computer City Tampa, $319.00 at Babbages Tampa. It
must be a whole new animal.

Ron


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 4353
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 09/04/93 10:42a
Subj: -=- Monthly Catalog -=-                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Michael Richard Hansen beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

MR>  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
MR>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
MR>  =-=   MONTHLY CATALOG OFFER   =-=
MR>  =-= If you are interested in

I'd like a catalog. Send to me at:

        13590 Fletcher Regency Drive
        Tampa, Florida  33613

Thanks!



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From: MATT SCHULTZ                           Number: 4354
  To: RICHARD NIXON                            Date: 09/01/93  3:07p
Subj: Re: Toshiba 3401B for SAL               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RN> Hello folks, I have a new Toshiba 3401B for sale.  200ms seek time and

Hi Richard,

I'm not in the market for a CD ROM drive at the moment, but would
you mind telling me what was erased from those tape recordings. :-)
Thanks.

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From: KENNETH ROWE                           Number: 4355
  To: MIKE WAVRECAN                            Date: 09/04/93 12:03p
Subj: Re: Looking for cd rom!?                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Wavrecan to All <=-

 MW>
 MW> Hello I'm looking for a CHEAP cdrom that will work with cd's<G> if
 MW> you know someone who has one or if you have one write back and I'll
 MW> give you my phone number also tell where your from and tell the price
 MW> and if you want games or anything else ask me I'll try to be of
 MW> accistance OK like seeya then ok so like for sure dude!BYE:-)
I have a  Hitachi 3500 internal with controller and cable for 125.00
plus shipping.  Prepay and I will cover the shipping cost.  Plays audio
CD's as well.  Has volume and phone jack on front of system.  Ask for
Ken. 205-859-2889 CST


... I used to read books.  Now I read .qwk files.
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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 4356
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/03/93  7:19p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   Heather Krause wrote 
╒═══════════════════════════════╕
∙>Maybe one of these days someone will come out with a good CD full of
∙>adult material for us ladies. And hopefully it'll be husband-proof.
∙>I'd hate for hubby to realize that I'm enjoying such things!  ;-)
╘═══════════════════════════════╛

Good for you Heather, well said!!!!

Regards,
Nino
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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 4357
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/03/93  7:32p
Subj: TOSHIBA CDROM SPECIAL                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   Boris Osadciw wrote 
╒═══════════════════════════════╕
∙>%%% TOSHIBA 3401 CDROM Player %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
∙> Internal Bare Drive - $389. - Bare = Drive, caddy and manual
╘═══════════════════════════════╛

Boris,

 That model drive came with this computer I bought.  What do I
ask for/how do I describe the caddy that came with it if I wanted
to purchase more.  I've seen ads for "Japanese Caddy" or "Sony
Caddy", amongst others.  Is this the same as the one that comes
with the 3401B?  Wouldn't like to order a dozen or so caddies and
they find out they were the wrong thing.  Sorry for sounding so
ingnorant, never saw one before this computer arrived.

Regards,
Nino
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From: PHILIPPE RENARD                        Number: 4358
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  8:28p
Subj: CD-Rom Catalogs                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 To any CD-Rom distributors.  I would be interested in recieving your CD-Rom
 catalogs.

 Send to:

   Radio Contact
   Press department
   Rue du Cerisier, 15 B
   B-4040 HERSTAL
   * BELGIUM *

Thank you,

Philippe Renard

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From: PHILIPPE RENARD                        Number: 4359
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/30/93  8:33p
Subj: For sale                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 * Crossposted in OCCASES.BF

For sale :

The Phethean's Public Domain Library #1 for IBM & Compatibles

700 Fb - $20 - 35 DM (inlude Shipping)

Mail order (Francs Belges only) or Cash (registered mail)

Philippe Renard

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 4360
  To: KEN MATTHEWS                             Date: 09/04/93  7:52a
Subj: 3DO CD ROM system                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Anuone have any information on this system? I was rading a artical that
> said it well run Animals CD an d stuff. Is the 3 DO able to hook up to
> the computer of it be a seperate game system?
> thanks on any comments..
> ken
Hi Ken,
3DO is a 32 bit game system and only can be hooked to a TV at this moment.
Drive is a Panasonic unit and other manufacturers may join following pending
agreements. Most of the existing CD-ROM titles needs to be re-tooled or
re-compiled for 3DO. If you like more info or a developer kits, you can
directly contact with them. In the near future I will be doing a direct mailing
for 3DO products. Right now we are still testing market. TTYL

GroupWare
4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
Tacoma, WA 98409
1-206-472-1400
1-206-473-1634 FAX

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From: DANIEL SALLEE                          Number: 4361
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93 10:54p
Subj: Forsale                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have a CDR-1000 CD-rom approximatley 3 months old with Docs, installation
disk and cables forsale must sell ASAP due to upgrade.  FIrst $125.00 or best
offer takes it.  Call Dan at 602-969-9204 or Net mail me at 1:114/186.

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From: DANIEL SALLEE                          Number: 4362
  To: MIKE WAVRECAN                            Date: 09/03/93 10:57p
Subj: Looking for CD ROM!?*                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike I have a fairly cheap CD-Rom give me a call at 602-969-9204 price is
$125.00.  Unit is 3 months old have box and docs for it as well.
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From: MOHIT GOYAL                            Number: 4363
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/04/93 10:25a
Subj: Re: OS/2                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>>>    Hello Boris!

BO>>>    Sunday August 29 1993, Boris Osadciw writes to All:

BO> BO>> ==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ====================
  > BO>>                               IN STOCK
  > BO>>  Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21
  > BO>>  package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and
  > BO>>  other special discounts for only $65.00!

BO>>>    When did OS/2 v2.21 come out?  I thought I was running the
  >>>    latest version (v2.1).  ;-)


BO>It's been out for a while now, as I understand it.

2.1 has been out for a while.  2.21 has not been released.  You have the
wrong version number Boris.

OS/2 v2.1 went GA on June 14th of this year.
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From: RANDY JOHNSON                          Number: 4364
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/04/93 12:35a
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

bj>   Encyclopedia of ClipArt
bj>   World of Flight
bj>   Mega ROM 2
bj>   World of Trains

 How about all of these? I'm local, please save them for me, I'll give you a
call on Saturday to find out where you live (I'm Clear Lake area).

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4365
  To: CHRIS KUEFLER                            Date: 09/03/93  7:46a
Subj: Busty Babes?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CK> have a BB cd, and am wondering how to find what version it is?


Look at the CD. If it has the words "Graphics Software" on it, it's a
"Release 1" and a collector's item.  If those words are missing, check
the DIR listing for a directory called "MICHELLA".  If it's there, you
have a "Release 3".  If it's not there, you have a "Release 2".  There
are several other differences between the three "releases" as well, but
these steps will tell you which version you have - which is what you
asked for. Ciao!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4366
  To: THE SISTER                               Date: 09/04/93  1:18p
Subj: Adult Cd-rom Disk 4Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TS> least $60.00 out of it. But if you want both I will take  $100.0
 TS> shipping. Both have perfect Jewel Cases. & are in very good cond


Don't hold your breath, Sis. They can be had *NEW* on this echo for
about half of this price.
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4367
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/03/93  7:52p
Subj: Re: "New" Busty Babes                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <09-02-93 12:21> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> away my copy for a Rel.1 (:>  I'm counting on you to send me a
BJ>> "Vol.2" BB - maybe even autographed??? =:)

You got a deal ! :)

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 4368
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 09/02/93  6:23p
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>-> No, and there apparently are no plans to do so for the indefinite fut
That's
>funny, I was at a fair a couple days ago at a Britanica both, and they had it
>on CD-ROM there.

Was it the BRITANNICA, or was it their OTHER Encyclopadea?


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 4369
  To: JASON SCHWARTZ                           Date: 09/03/93 11:18a
Subj: PC-SIG                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Has anyone had any experience with the PC-SIG company?

PC-SIG is one of the longest-lasting PC-based Shareware collectors in
existance.

I don't like the way they organise their collections, but they are HIGHLY
reputable.


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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4370
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/03/93 10:04p
Subj: BUSTY BABES RELEASE 2.0 C               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC>  * *  B U S T Y  B A B E S  * *  RELEASE 2.0  * * IS BACK!! * *
DC>   Will be re-released in September.  We are taking pre-orders.
DC>        The Price - $36.95.  We will meet any price on it.

Doug,

I think you're on the wrong track here.  It's my understanding that this
is a brand new disc:  Busty Babes VOLUME 2, RELEASE 1, not a re-release
of the old Busty Babes "2", (which was VOLUME 1, RELEASE 2)  Over 1000
new copyrighted scans on this one.

BTW:  We're taking pre-orders too.  Can't wait to see it.

Later,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4371
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93 10:04p
Subj: BUSTY II PRE-ORDERS!!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

           ______________________________________________________
          |                                                      |
          |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #3:  CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS   |
          |______________________________________________________|

            We are now taking pre-orders on the following titles
             - Cards are not processed until date of shipment -

 BUSTY BABES II * Over 1000 new and original hi-rez scans + Showoff (a).$29
 PC-SIG 13 * Newest CD from the oldest shareware distributor............$33
 PIER 3 * 650+mb of all new material w/ no dupes to Pier 1 or 2.........$39
 SHAREWARE STUDIO 3 * 633mb and 5109 files + BBS-ready! Don't miss out..$29

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4372
  To: DAVID HARRISON                           Date: 09/03/93 10:04p
Subj: UPDATED ADULT CD PRICES                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DH>Hey mike, seeing as you sale a high volume of CD's, I was wondering if you
DH>or somebody else on this echo that has the data available could post a chart
DH>of dupes, sizes, percentages, ect. on maybe 4 or 5 of the top BBS-READY cd's
DH>on the market right now (along with their average price ranges)...

David,

I'm in the process of updating my comparison chart now as some of the new
shareware titles like Shareware Online 2, Software Vault Gold, Shareware
Studio 3, and others are trickling in.  I'm just not sure I want to post it
here because of all the whining and griping that went on last time it was
displayed. <g>

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4373
  To: MARK SMITKA                              Date: 09/03/93 10:04p
Subj: Grammy cd                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>Have you got "The Grammy's" (Grammy Awards on CD)? If so, what're you asking
MS>for it?

Mark,

We sure do.  They are priced at $36 in the full retail box.  Let me know if
you'd like one and we can ship same day for ya.

Later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4374
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93 10:04p
Subj: NEW SHAREWARE CD 4-PAK!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            __________________________________     _____________
           |                                  |   |             |
           | Title:  SHAREWARE EXPLORER 4-PAK |   | Price:  $54 |
           |__________________________________|   |_____________|

     This great 4-volume shareware CD set is brought to you by the same
     folks who did the 5-Star Premium series, and is every bit as well-
     organized and up-to-date as the 5-Star CD's were.  Are you tired of
     the old, poorly organized shareware CD sets?  You won't be
     disappointed with Shareware Explorer - we guarantee it!

     * Over 26,000 total files (1992/1993)
     * Less than 1% duplication between CD's.
     * 3 volumes are DOS, and 1 is Windows shareware (7000 files)
     * BBS-ready with PC-Board and FILES.BBS file listings.
     * EZ-Access menu program.

                    >> IN STOCK FOR IMMEDIATE DELIVERY! <<

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4375
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/03/93 10:04p
Subj: NEW CD SOUTHERN BEAUEAUT                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LN>BJ>> Yes, put me down for a BB Vol II when you get some.

LN>Hehehehe, your gonna like this disc :) It will be on the streets in
Septemebe
LN>for sure--

Lee,

Bob is looking for an old Busty "Release 2", not the new one, although I'm
sure he'll want one of those also.  8)  Can you give us some more details on
this new disc?  All I saw was an initial promo blurb with no real details.
Will the cover be similar?  How many total images?  What resolution?  Can you
finally put an end to all the public confusion over Busty's various release
numbers and volume numbers?  And also, is Vol 1 Release 1 REALLY worth
$400????????  Inquiring minds want to know.  8)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4376
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/03/93 10:04p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC> > only please.  Thank you!
DC> DS> What make BB #1 so valuable?

DC>It has copyrighted scans on it...

And that's not all.  8)

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4377
  To: VINICIO CAVALLINI                        Date: 09/03/93 10:24p
Subj: ORDER                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Vinicio,

Sorry about the oversight on your order.  The extra Seedy-ROM #7 shipped
out on Aug 27 by Air Mail.  I've also credited your account for the $4.00
error.

Thanks,
.\\ike

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From: MICHAEL KOKOTT                         Number: 4378
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/02/93  8:53p
Subj: Re: Busty babes #1                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Doug Carpenter@1:362/119 meinte am 31.08.93
zum Thema "Busty babes #1":

> Release 2.0 of the original version will be out again this month.
>
Hello Doug,

whats the price for that cd? and is it possible to send it to Germany?

greetings

Michael--
** Beispiel-Signatur für öffentliche Nachrichten **

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From: PEYTON NORMAN                          Number: 4379
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/04/93  9:31a
Subj: CD ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


                       ** CD Rom Disc Special **
                     X-Tasy BBs Vioce 1-904-492-7483

                     So Much Shareware      $10.00
                     Night Owls 2           $10.00
                     Night Owls 4           $10.00
                     Night Owls 5           $10.00
                     Time Mag. 1992         $15.00
                     Up All Night 1993      $15.00
                     CD WinBox              $15.00
                     Publishers Dream
                     Disc w/catalog         $25.00
                     Encyclopedia of
                     Clip Art               $25.00
                     Dictionaries & lang.   $10.00
                     Game Master 2          $10.00
                     Windowware             $10.00
                     Shareware Gold         $12.00
                     World of Ham Radio     $15.00
                     Cookbook               $10.00
                     Shareware Studio 2     $10.00
                     Publishers Paradice    $20.00
                     Romware Mag.           $8.00
                     Sherlock Holmes game   $15.00
                     Sleeping Beauty        $12.00

                  CALL X-Tasy BBS  line #1  492-9817
                                   line #2  492-9821
                          VOICE 1-904-492-7483

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From: KEVIN RICH                             Number: 4380
  To: ANDREW SETO                              Date: 09/03/93  5:45p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Cd-Rom For Sa               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please forgive me  but what was the price? I can be reached easiest on my BBS
615-837-0014 or where may I reach you?
Thanks

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4381
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/04/93  5:56p
Subj: labor day cdrom specials                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

           PCJ "Hot" Labor Day Sale - Thru 9/9/93

All Chestnut Titles (15).$ 11.95  Phoenix 3.0............... 12.95
Battlechess............... 21.95  Phoenix 4.0 (New)......... 23.95
Compton's Interactive '93. 88.95  Prophone '92 (3 CDs)...... 29.95
Global Explorer........... 84.95  Reference Library (STW)... 17.95
Hamware 1993.............. 23.95  Software Vault 2.......... 21.95
My First Time............. 34.95  Time Almanac 1990......... 12.95
Peter & the Wolf.......... 18.95  ** While Quantities Last **

   Orders - 800-547-7817 (9-9 EST) / 615-339-0235 (24 Hours)

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From: CHRIS WISE                             Number: 4382
  To: MARK RICHARDSON                          Date: 09/04/93  9:10a
Subj: Cdrom games                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          Mark Richardson wrote
----------------------------------------
>> the SbPro directly or do cd games just access my SBPro the way regular
>> games on the hard drive do?  any information Appreciated.
----------------------------------------

   Just taking a guess that you have a Mitsumi?  The reason why I guess
this is because the CD line has two wires switched, and they have to be
reversed for them to work.  There is three ways to do this -- 1. To buy
the adapter for it.  2. Splice the line and switch the wires. 3. You
will note a tab on the CD line, if you shave this flush you will be able
to flip the connector over, and I have heard (have not tried it) that
this will work.

   I just hooked the line to the controller card, and selected the SBpro
on the game menu, and it uses the bus instead of the CD line to transfer
the sound...

Lee Christopher Wise
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From: RON RICHMOND                           Number: 4383
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/03/93 12:18p
Subj: Re: canadian sales                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>We have shipped hundreds of adult cd's to Canada and never had a problem
BO>with customes. In fact, we just shipped a major order to Ontario and the
BO>customer received it with ease and NO CUSTOM FEE's.

Thanks for your interest Boris, I purchased my ROM Drive from you and am still
very satisfied with the purchase,and your follow up.
===
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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 4384
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/04/93 11:40a
Subj: Re: CDs For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Bob Jackson to All <=-


Bob, I called and left a message on your machine about wanting the
disks below: I am in and out this weekend (labor day) so please
let me know if they are still available - 713-347-6948 if I don't
catch you first.  Thanks.

 Encyclopedia of ClipArt
 World of Flight
 Bibles & Religion
 Phoenix 3.0
 Dictionaries & Languages




... Just wanted to ACHAT with ya!
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From: BRYNE BOTTOMS                          Number: 4385
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/04/93  9:32a
Subj: Canadian sales                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

* In a message originally to Ron Richmond, Boris Osadciw said:
BO->>>    To ALL.
BO->>>          I had ordered Busty Babes vol.2 from Dave and it was
BO->>>       held at the border. The P.O. would not return it to Dave
BO->>>       and when I called Fed.Ex they estimated $24 to $36 Can.
BO->>>       depending on actual weight,to send it back. Estimated only,
BO->>>       because I cannot get the disk to them from Customs.and they
BO->>>       would have to pick it up at the P.O. I chose to abandon the
BO->>>       disk, as this would be almost as much as the original cost.
BO->>>       Customs would not tell me which disks would be stopped.
BO->>>       Canadians would be well advised to order from Vince and
BO->>>       Michellea Sorensen. Ron.

BO->We have shipped hundreds of adult cd's to Canada and never
BO->had a problem
BO->with customes. In fact, we just shipped a major order to
BO->Ontario and the
BO->customer received it with ease and NO CUSTOM FEE's.

BO->I guess it's all in the way you ship your products and or
BO->handle the
BO->matterial.

BO->On another note, customes will ship the package back if it
BO->is so stated
BO->on the package. Even if it is not allowed to enter the
BO->country, it will be
BO->returned to the shipper at his/her expense. This again is
BO->only true if the
BO->shipper has stated this on the package.

BO->Just a few cents worth......

BO->Boris Osadciw

BO->... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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I got my Adult CD's from the U.S yesterday with no problem at all and also no
customs fees were added either.
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From: ED JUNE                                Number: 4386
  To: KEN TULLY                                Date: 09/04/93  9:51a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes V1.0                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ken Tully wrote in a message to Rick Shoaf:


KT> The original copy has the BAMBAM Logo on it, and the disk
KT> contains material that was not put on subsiquent editions.
KT> It is a VERY special disk.  Anyone interested will have to
KT> reply to me here before the 1st of Sept.


Mine has the twin BamBam Logo on it.
What's the extra material?



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From: ED JUNE                                Number: 4387
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/04/93  9:55a
Subj: BB #1 ID, how?                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HOW does one *positively* identify a BB#1?
The BamBam Logo?
I have that, what else?



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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4388
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/04/93 10:05a
Subj: SUPER VALUES                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi people!

   We've got some great deals on some '93 CD-ROMs... these are
Overstock Liquidations at, near, or below cost while current
INSTOCK quanitities last! They are:

                                        Cdn$   US$
            ProPhone 1993 7-disc set      SOLD OUT
            American Business Phonebook   SOLD OUT
            Erotic Encounters Vol. II     35    26
            Foxes                         25    19
            Busty Babes Release 3.0       25    19
            Shareware Studio II           20    16
            Night Owl 9                   35    26

     Shareware Studio I Free with purchase of Night Owl 9

     C ya soon!
     .\\ichellea
     306-789-4654
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From: GLENN CAREY                            Number: 4389
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 09/04/93  4:57p
Subj: Re: Elysian Archive /Amiga              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  *In a message dated 01 Sep 93  23:41:00 Ismail Arslangiray writes:

IA> Coming Soon!....
IA>
IA>              Elysian Archive
IA>   Welcome to the World of Amiga...
IA>
IA>   Finally, an Amiga CD-ROM designed for BBS'!..
IA>
IA>   * Games
IA>   * Utilities for all Amiga Models
IA>   * Tracker Modules(ST/NT/MED)
IA>   * Demos of commercial software
IA>   * Eurodemos
IA>   * Animations
IA>   * 24 bit images
IA>   * Programming
IA>
IA>   CD Specifications
IA>   * ISO9660 format; readable by Amigas and PC's
IA>   * File names are in 8.3 format for compatibility
IA>   * Over 6000 files
IA>   * Over 600 Megabytes
IA>
IA>   Produced by TFS
IA>   Published and Distributed by GroupWare
IA>
IA> --- DB 1.53/002199
IA>  * Origin: GroupWare-Voice:1-800-373-0628 Fax:[phone]
IA> (1:138/116)
IA>

Please let me know when this disk is ready to ship and the cost
Thanks
Glenn


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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4390
  To: DICK HUDDLESTON                          Date: 09/04/93  6:47p
Subj: Re: Showoff Interface                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <09-02-93 11:46> Dick Huddleston wrote:

DH>> the right colors on my screen. (I have a VGA monitor with a Paradise
DH>> 16 card - WD chip).  I called the 800 number for help, and Dan Graboi
DH>> was very helpful, but said I needed SVGA card to really see the
DH>> colors.

Sorry to hear of your problems, perhaps oneday you will have yourself a SVGA
card--It makes all the difference in the world !

DH>> The idea of having multiple miniature images on the screen is nice,
DH>> but if one can't see them, not too good.  Also, I don't run a mouse
DH>> unless needed, and don't load the driver for it.

Without an SVGA card, you would experience this type of difficulty--

DH>> I believe the instructions should state that SVGA is required if it
DH>> is,
DH>> and that a mouse is required.  Not everyone has those yet.

Good point.

DH>> I resorted to the old familiar Cshow and CDMENU, and reviewed most of
DH>> the directories.  Fun CD.

Good thinking ! We apologize for your troubles.

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4391
  To: CARL SLAWINSKI                           Date: 09/04/93  6:54p
Subj: BBSCon                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <09-02-93 21:10> Carl Slawinski wrote:

CS>> What's the story on Busty Babes and such. At ONE BBSCON you stated
CS>> that you were no longer selling BB and the others and that you would
CS>> come out with some new ones.

That is correct.

CS>> Of course, I heard that you had dropped it and also I live in
CS>> one of the cities on your list. I picked up Busty Babes from the
CS>> Chicago something or other CD booth.

As you know I sat on the panel for "Adult Images", and if your in one of those
States I mentioned, reconsider dropping the adult section from your BBS--Follow
Boardwatch magazine starting with Sept issue for good reason.

CS>> Chicago something or other CD booth. He said that he bought them
CS>> directly from you and I was curious, why you would have him sell them
CS>> at ONE BBSCON if you were in fact dropping them and recommending that
CS>> they not me placed on BBS'.

For private collections--Not all sysops buy CD's for their BBS, they also buy
them for their own personal recreation.

A public area like this is monitored by authorities, and its not that I am
skirting the issue, it's that I am not comfortable talking about the Adult CD
industry in this echo--

CS>> Are these new disks that you are producing suitable for a market such
CS>> as say.......Memphis, Tn??  8-)

You would should consult a first ammendment attorney in your area for these
answers--I would be speaking out of tongue to say what I feel your State will
tolerate.

CS>> Thanks for any info that you can provide me with in this area.

WOuld love to talk to you but not in this echo or others--Netmail be 3618/23
and I will be a little more relaxed about the issue in which you address.

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4392
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93 11:52p
Subj: Labor Day CDROM SALE                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

           PCJ "Hot" Labor Day Sale - Thru 9/9/93

All Chestnut Titles (15).$ 11.95  Phoenix 3.0............... 12.95
Battlechess............... 21.95  Phoenix 4.0 (New)......... 23.95
Compton's Interactive '93. 88.95  Prophone '92 (3 CDs)...... 29.95
Global Explorer........... 84.95  Reference Library (STW)... 17.95
Hamware 1993.............. 23.95  Software Vault 2.......... 21.95
My First Time............. 34.95  Time Almanac 1990......... 12.95
Peter & the Wolf.......... 18.95  ** While Quantities Last **

   Orders - 800-547-7817 (9-9 EST) / 615-339-0235 (24 Hours)

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4393
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93 11:52p
Subj: Busty 2.0 Preorders                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  * *  B U S T Y  B A B E S  * *  RELEASE 2.0  * * IS BACK!! * *
   Will be re-released in September.  We are taking pre-orders.
        The Price - $27.95.  We will meet any price on it.

Features:  675+ MB of Erotica Viewing Pleasure - 1,000 Copyrited
           High Resolution VGA/SVGA Pics including the Busty Babes
           Fully BBS Ready with text files in Files.BBS format
           New Show Off Interface with easy menu installation

PCJ Computing-Voice 615-339-0235/Fax [phone]/Orders 800-547-7817

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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4394
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 09/02/93  9:00p
Subj: Mitsumi                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bruce, I overheard you reply to someone that the mitsumi is compatible
with sound galaxy.  I tried to hook mine through th sg but to no avail.
 Do you know what I might be dooing wrong?

Thanks a million!


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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4395
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 09/03/93  7:36p
Subj: Seventh Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sorry it's gone.  don't give up  their prices keep coming down.  Also
here there's a sequel coming out.

thanks a million!


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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4396
  To: CHRIS JOHNSON                            Date: 09/03/93  7:38p
Subj: Seventh Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sorry it's gone.  Keep looking there still out there.  Keep an eye out
for the sequel.


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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4397
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 09/05/93  1:50a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare
>>    -$1199. Groilers Encyc DOS v5. or Windows v1. $50.  ChestNuts
>>    CD's ALL $10.00ec ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tell me a
>>    little about groilers/and difference between dos v5 & win v1.

>>    Thanks a Million

Glad to help....

Boris Osadciw

... Oh never mind!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4398
  To: MICHAEL INGRAM                           Date: 09/05/93  1:50a
Subj: Re: CDROM SYSTEMS                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>> Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00         Pioneer DMR604X Bare  -$1199.
BO>>   ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]
BO>>
>>    I need a CD Changer but prolly a little more than Bare Bones...
>>    DOnt know a thing about installing these.  Please send one of
>>    your more attractive secreataries (or at least heavy doc's)<G>
>>     with any order I happen to place to help in installation!

Well, we can do that!! Sure, lets see Air Fare, Meals, $40. hrs,
uhmmm....looks like we'll need to add another $2,000. - $3,000. to
the cost of the unit......grin -:)

On a more serious note, it's really not that hard to install and the
manuals are pretty clear.

We've sold hundreds of these units and some of the users right here have
installed them with easy....just ask.....  It's like anything else, it's
only as hard as you make it and if you run a BBS, installing it is harder
than installing a 6-pack online.

>>    I currently have a standard ISA 386/40DX type BBS operating
>>    under DV. Need pricing information for anything that may be
>>    needed in my quest... Also wanna know what it'll charge me to
>>    get a complete set with CD's to load those precious slots...
>>    Saw somebodys ad somehere for a changer, loaded with choices
>>    of BBS type cd's.  Was that you by chance?

Michael, if you go with the DMR600, it'll cost you $799. for the unit
and an extra $100. for the controller, drivers cna cable. If you go
with the DMR604X, it'll cost you $1199. plus $175. for the controller,
drivers and cable. As for cd's to fill the unit, here again the price can
varie, since there are a number to chose from, but as a guide, you can
say you'd spend about $25. per cd.

If you need further information, I suggest you give us a call or drop us
a note via the node/net number below as the moderator gets upset and loses
some hair with this type of conversations in the echo's.

Your welcome to call us anytime 7 days a week.

Hope this helps....

Boris Osadciw

... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4399
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 09/05/93  1:50a
Subj: Re: NEW CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Boris,

>>    Answering a msg of <30 Aug 93>, from Boris Osadciw to All:

>>    whats the total MB's in the 4disk set that you just
>>    advertised?  Might be talking to you soon if its a decent
>>    amount...


Ahhh,which 4 disk set do you need the MB's on Ed, we have two new ones
in stock now?

Chat with you soon....

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4400
  To: JASON SCHWARTZ                           Date: 09/05/93  1:50a
Subj: Re: RED HOT                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    I'm interested in the "Jokes/Pranks or 1001 Util" CD. Could
>>    you please give me more details as to what it contains? THANKS
>>    A LOT!!

OK Jason, "1001 Util's" contains just that, over 1,000 assorted
shareware programs from hard drive to floppies, from ram to networking.
As for the "Jokes/Pranks", it's a collection of funny screen blankers to
various text file jokes and more. Both cd's are a collection of shareware
programs and offer a menu driven screen.

Interested, please feel free to give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime
7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... What Bug! I left behind the roaches in New York!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4401
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/05/93  1:50a
Subj: Re: U.S. Mail                           Refer: NONE
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>>    Especially that last one!  Even with insurance, it's taken me
>>    over a month to get a settlement through the Post Office for a
>>    lost package, where UPS has settled with me in less than a
>>    week in both the two instances (over 6 years) where they lost
>>    something.  Maybe I'm missing something, but when given a
>>    choice between the two, I always stick with UPS.

Good for you Mike, but personally, this has no place here and how we
got on this subject ???

Like they always say " If it works for you and your happy, stick with
it".

In our case it doesn't, not with equipment!!......end of thread.

Sorry moderator

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4402
  To: CRIS BOYER                               Date: 09/05/93  1:50a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Drive                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>     Can anyone tell me where to find a good, cheap CDROM drive I
>>     can get around or in the city of Royal Oak,Michigan? Thanx.

I can't say where you could find around there, but we have a brand
new ( closeout ) internal scsi base Phillips for only $185.

Interested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy
to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4403
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93  1:50a
Subj: NEW DR.CD's                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

)))))))))))))))))))))) H O T  N E W  C D ' S ((((((((((((((((((((((

DR. MUSIC - Music Editors, MOD, MIDI, ROL, SND, VOC, WAV and more!
DR. SHAREWARE - 615 megs of shareware programs and utilities!
DR. GAMES - 600+ megs of Adventure, Arcade, Card, Sports and more!
DR. WINDOWS - 3,440 files of window programs and utilities!
        All BBS READY !! - BUY 5 AND GET THE 6TH ONE FREE !!
               Price - $59.00 for all 4 or $20.00ec

ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress makes it's motion picture debut as the "The Emailator"!
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 4404
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/03/93  7:11p
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>                                        Cdn$   US$
MS>            Busty Babes                   25    19

   How do I go about ordering this?
 ■ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 ■ Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?


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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 4405
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/04/93 11:50p
Subj: Anniversary Sale!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: [phone]
        $89.00         International 314-521-4862     $89.00

                        FREE OVERNIGHT SHIPPING!

  *******************  ANNUAL ANNIVERSARY SALE ****************************

Soooo... everyone wants a bargain nowadays... and we would like to
give you one!  We want to say thank you to the thousands of customers
who buy from us every month... so once again we will be holding our
anniversary sale!  Check this one out!

        - Shareware Explorer: Four Disk Set, 26,000 files, files dated
          through the first week of August, 1993! (less than a month
          old!) By far one of the most popular disks we have had in
          stock this year! We have sold over 1000 of these since they
          have been released 10 days ago!

        - Night Owl's Graphics:  Night Owl has always had some of the
          highest quality disks on the market.  Now they have released
          an EXCELLENT graphics disk.. containing nothing
          but the FINEST graphics files available.  Over 600 megs!

        - Shareware Online II:  The latest from CMS software... the
          disk is less than 2 weeks old!  1993 files GALORE!  A must for
          the serious SYSOP or Shareware enthusiast.

        - Phoenix 4.0... what else can we say.  Phoenix has a draw just
          by it's name.  THOUSANDS of files, with over 600 megs.  Less
          than 1% duplication to Phoenix 3.0!

So.. we have put them all together in a NON duplicating package...
giving you over 36,000 different files to enjoy.  Each disk contains BBS
file descriptions, AND an it's own "access" software for complete search
and retrieve utilities.

Oh.. and did we mention????

**********************  FREE OVERNIGHT SHIPPING ***********************

Order up until 7:00pm Monday thru Thursday and receive your package the
next day with absolutely NO SHIPPING CHARGES!  Folks.. if you have been
looking to add or begin your CDROM shareware library... don't miss this
one.. you can't pass this up.

Just want one of the above?  Give us a call!  We won't disappoint you!

THESE ARE BRAND NEW RELEASED DISKS.. NOT STUFF THAT AIN'T MOVIN.. JUST A
WAY TO SAY THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOLKS WHO HAVE SUPPORTED THE
MARKetplace! OVER THE YEARS.


*********************************************************************
   VISA          1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M        MASTERCARD
              ---- 100s of Titles Available ----



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From: MARK ABBACCHI                          Number: 4406
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93 12:19a
Subj: Anniversary Sale!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                         The MARKetplace!
P.O. Box 10925 St. Louis, MO  63135 1-800-289-1ROM  FAX: [phone]
        $89.00         International 314-521-4862     $89.00

                        FREE OVERNIGHT SHIPPING!

 *******************  ANNUAL ANNIVERSARY SALE ****************************

Soooo... everyone wants a bargain nowadays... and we would like to
give you one!  We want to say thank you to the thousands of customers
who buy from us every month... so once again we will be holding our
anniversary sale!  Check this one out!

        - Shareware Explorer: Four Disk Set, 26,000 files, files dated
          through the first week of August, 1993! (less than a month
          old!) By far one of the most popular disks we have had in
          stock this year! We have sold over 1000 of these since they
          have been released 10 days ago!

        - Night Owl's Graphics:  Night Owl has always had some of the
          highest quality disks on the market.  Now they have released
          an EXCELLENT graphics disk.. containing nothing
          but the FINEST graphics files available.  Over 600 megs!

        - Shareware Online II:  The latest from CMS software... the
          disk is less than 2 weeks old!  1993 files GALORE!  A must for
          the serious SYSOP or Shareware enthusiast.

        - Phoenix 4.0... what else can we say.  Phoenix has a draw just
          by it's name.  THOUSANDS of files, with over 600 megs.  Less
          than 1% duplication to Phoenix 3.0!

So.. we have put them all together in a NON duplicating package...
giving you over 36,000 different files to enjoy.  Each disk contains BBS
file descriptions, AND an it's own "access" software for complete search
and retrieve utilities.

Oh.. and did we mention????

**********************  FREE OVERNIGHT SHIPPING ***********************

Order up until 7:00pm Monday thru Thursday and receive your package the
next day with absolutely NO SHIPPING CHARGES!  Folks.. if you have been
looking to add or begin your CDROM shareware library... don't miss this
one.. you can't pass this up.

Just want one of the above?  Give us a call!  We won't disappoint you!

THESE ARE BRAND NEW RELEASED DISKS.. NOT STUFF THAT AIN'T MOVIN.. JUST A
WAY TO SAY THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOLKS WHO HAVE SUPPORTED THE
MARKetplace! OVER THE YEARS.


*********************************************************************
   VISA          1 - 8 0 0 - 2 8 9 - 1 R O M        MASTERCARD
              ---- 100s of Titles Available ----

Free overnight shipping applies only to destinations within the
continuous 48 United States.



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From: DANNY TONG                             Number: 4407
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/04/93  4:52a
Subj: Mod, 669 or wav on cd-rom               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Has anybody seen a CD-ROM with MOD, 669 or WAV for sale?

 * SLMR 2.1a * Why look at docs when I can look at nurses?


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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 4408
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/04/93 11:13a
Subj: OS/2                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Boris!

Friday September 03 1993, Boris Osadciw writes to Dave Reed:

 BO>>> ==================== OS2 ON CD For Only $65.00 ? ====================
 BO>>> IN STOCK
 BO>>> Until Septemeber 14, 1993 you can purchase the complete OS/2 v2.21
 BO>>> package, which offer's you the installation disks, cd, manuals and
 BO>>> other special discounts for only $65.00!

 >>> When did OS/2 v2.21 come out?  I thought I was running the
 >>> latest version (v2.1).  ;-)

 BO> It's been out for a while now, as I understand it.

According to your ad, it's "IN STOCK," so I suggest you grab one off that big
shelf of yours and look at it.  I'm sure that you'll find it is "Version 2.1."
But, on the other hand, you probably don't have them in stock, and are only
relating the information your distributor gave you (obviously NOT IBM), so we
can't fault you for that.

I little lesson I learned long ago (Ismail should pay attention to this, too):
If you always tell the truth, you don't have to worry about trying to keep the
story straight, and you won't ever have to worry about looking like a fool,
when someone discovers that you don't have the faintest idea of what you're
talking about.



... Impeach Clinton!  (Bill, too!)

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 4409
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 09/04/93 11:20a
Subj: 3DO CD ROM system                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Ismail!

Saturday September 04 1993, Ismail Arslangiray writes to Ken Matthews:

 IA> 3DO is a 32 bit game system and only can be hooked to a TV at this moment.
 IA> Drive is a Panasonic unit and other manufacturers may join following
 IA> pending agreements. Most of the existing CD-ROM titles needs to be
 IA> re-tooled

Uh... how does one "re-tool" a CD-ROM title?



... CLINTON - The courage to quit! ??

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 4410
  To: J. ALLEN                                 Date: 09/04/93  3:21p
Subj: Jem Disk CD-Rom Trade In Sale           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello J.!

Thursday September 02 1993, J. Allen writes to Michael Crosson:

 JA>     Where's the Beef???

What is it with you?  Every post you put into this conference, you're trying to
stirr sh!t up with the dealers.  Why don't you take your whiney little ass off
to Free Spirit and stay there?


... Grow your own dope... plant a liberal!

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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 4411
  To: MICHAEL COLLIER                          Date: 09/04/93  8:17p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Michael!

Friday September 03 1993, Michael Collier writes to Heather Krause:

 MC>   I think a good idea might be, ala Ms. Sorensen from up here in Canada,
 MC> for the CDrom vendors in this conference, most of which are male, to
 MC> graciously donate pictures of themselves au natural (and more!)

Only problem is: finding a wide-angle lens big enough.  ;-)



... Clinton Cruise Lines - Taking America for a Ride!

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From: GARY KIMBRELL                          Number: 4412
  To: JOHN PIMENTEL                            Date: 09/05/93  3:37a
Subj: RE: CD CADDIES                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Where (other than Mike Shannon -- NOTE nothing against Mike, but I need a
> comparison) can CD Caddies be bought and how much??
>
They sure can. :-) I bought mine from Mike Shannon for $4.95. My next order I
will get another one. I only have two right now and they sure do come in
handy.

Gary
NEC3657

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From: BOB CENTERBAR                          Number: 4413
  To: CHARLEY WEBB                             Date: 09/05/93  9:26a
Subj: wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 09-03-93 CHARLEY WEBB wrote to ALL...

 CW> I am looking for 2 Sony CDU-535-1 CD-Rom drives. If anyone is selling
 CW> one,
 CW> leave me a message and a price.
 CW>

I've got an internal 535 with controller card & cable for $200.00, reply
here or call 817-699-6525.

Later....Bob
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From: RUSS MICHAELSON                        Number: 4414
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/05/93  1:28a
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

        BOB, I'd like the following CDROMs:

CD Winbox
CD Powerbox
Encyclopedia of ClipArt
World of Trains
SDN-1 Plus
Mega Win/OS2

        Please confirm the sale and give your address to send $$$.

        Russ
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4415
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 09/05/93  8:05a
Subj: Review: Southern Beauties               Refer: NONE
Read: 09/20/93  6:51a                       Private: No

Thanks, Tim. Let me know if I get too "racy" - I try to be mindful that
"children of all ages" read this echo. I'm trying to inform, not offend.  I
appreciate your feedback.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4416
  To: DICK HUDDLESTON                          Date: 09/05/93  8:06a
Subj: Re: CDs For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I left you a couple of phone messages. I'm holding all 5 for you. I'm out  in
Clear Lake.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4417
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/05/93  8:08a
Subj: Re: "New" Busty Babes                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Oooooooooooooooooo! Hugs! Hugs! HUgs!  BTW: Didja read any of my latest
reviews? Wadja think?
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4418
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93 11:27a
Subj: Going...Going....                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

almost GONE! Of all the shareware CDs I was unloading, there's only *ONE*
left: Chestnut's "Ham Radio". This is now offered in a package consisting  of
itself, O'Conner "Disk 1" shareware (an oldie), and a Profit  Publishing Mega
DEMO CD - the one with the CD-ROM drive benchmark  programs on it, plus a *LOT*
of samples of other stuff. The whole nine  yards goes to the first $10 -
shipping included anywhere in U.S. Confirm  purchase *ONLY* by calling (713)
488-0065.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4419
  To: ED JUNE                                  Date: 09/05/93  9:08a
Subj: Re: BB #1 ID, how?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Ed June to All <=-

 EJ> HOW does one *positively* identify a BB#1?
 EJ> The BamBam Logo?
 EJ> I have that, what else?

Well, look for the words "Graphics Software" on the CD. If they're
there, check out the DIR listing. If "XSTORY1" and "XSTORY2" are
missing, look for the "MICHELLA" directory. If it's missing as well,
you've got a "Release 1" BB! (Some of these instructions are redundant -
but you asked for "positive" ID :)  ).

... Mary had a little RAM -- only about a MEG or so.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4420
  To: STEVE KRUEGER                            Date: 09/05/93  9:11a
Subj: Re: BB cd rom                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Steve Krueger to All <=-

 SK> Hey guys...does the Busty Babes CD show any "PINK"???

Heh heh heh heh heh heh! That's got to be *THE* understatement of the
year!  Yes, you can see some "PINK" on BB, as long as you're not talking
about the hammer and sickle type of "PINK" (he said, showing his age).

... "Don't mince words, Steve ... what do you *REALLY* think?"
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4421
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/05/93  9:27a
Subj: Re: BBSCon                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to Carl Slawinski <=-
 CS>> What's the story on Busty Babes and such. At ONE BBSCON you stated
 CS>> that you were no longer selling BB and the others and that you would
 CS>> come out with some new ones.

 LN> That is correct.

Do I take it then that your new offerings will be more "R" rated?

 CS>> Of course, I heard that you had dropped it and also I live in
 CS>> one of the cities on your list.
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'd like to see this list. Would you mail me a copy?

 LN> As you know I sat on the panel for "Adult Images", and if your in one
 LN> of those States I mentioned,
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Are there others besides Oklahoma, Florida, Alabama, and Utah?

 LN> A public area like this is monitored by authorities,
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I can understand this, but isn't it a pity we have to be afraid of our
own Government?  "Big Brother" *IS* listening!

... "Don't mince words, Lee ... what do you *REALLY* think?"
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4422
  To: JOHN PIMENTEL                            Date: 09/05/93  9:32a
Subj: Re: CD CADDIES                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting John Pimentel to All <=-

 JP> Where (other than Mike Shannon -- NOTE nothing against Mike, but I
 JP> need a comparison) can CD Caddies be bought and how much??

Profit Publishing in Arizona (see ads in back of PC mags) sells caddies
for $4.75 (any quantity) with purchase of a CD. They're the producers of
the FAO and the MEGA series of CDs. Nice folks to deal with - just like
Mike.

... Blue Wave - World Tour - 1993
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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 4423
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93 10:53a
Subj: Bible CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

Can anyone give me any info about the various Bible CD's.  I am interested in
purchasing one but am not sure which one to get.  I have seen the Bible
Library, Bibles & Religion, Holy Bible, and Interactive Bible.  Any comments
would be appreciated.  Thanks.....

Danny

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From: TIM ETHERIDGE                          Number: 4424
  To: BURL ETHERIDGE                           Date: 09/05/93  1:54a
Subj: test                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey-
Howzit?

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From: DOUG SNELL                             Number: 4425
  To: HARVEY BRODY                             Date: 09/04/93  9:15p
Subj: Dealer?                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Harvey,
    Do you deal in Cdrom's. If so could you Netmail me prices on Adult CD's?

                    Doug

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From: CHARLES ROBERTS                        Number: 4426
  To: MOHIT GOYAL                              Date: 09/04/93  7:46p
Subj: future wars                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The only difference as far as I know is a background music soundtrack.
The CD plays in music mode, and the sound comes out through the
headphone jack.
Did you like this game?  Talk about hunt the pixel puzzles, this one
is full of them. I don't have the patience to finish it.

By the way, I have also decided to sell (or trade) Secret Weapons of
the Luftwaffe for $20

If anyone is interested, call Charles at 939-9611


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4427
  To: JASON SCHWARTZ                           Date: 09/05/93  8:05p
Subj: PC-SIG                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JS>   Can you please give me some details on what
 JS> Nightowl is? I don't know
 JS> anything about it. THANKS!!

Nightowl is an all shareware CDROM disc...it has roughly 50 categories of files
like you would find on most BBS systems such as shareware games, dos utilities,
windows programs, gifs, etc.  They publish a new disc with the latest files
about 2 times a year.  They have always been the leader in the market until the
past year or so, where others have started coming out with quality CDs
also....such as Software Vault 2, and the new Big Sky this fall ought to be
awesome.  Hope that helps.  We have it in stock and will meet any advertised
price on this echo.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4428
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/05/93  8:13p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 HK>     Maybe one of these days someone will come out
 HK> with a good CD full of
 HK>     adult material for us ladies. And hopefully
 HK> it'll be husband-proof.
 HK>     I'd hate for hubby to realize that I'm enjoying such things!  ;-)

 HK>     Just to keep this on track as a "For Sale" message... Does anyone
 HK>     know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females? Title and
 HK>     price, dealers?

Hot Hunks......$38.95....615-339-0235 24 hours to order.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4429
  To: MARC KULAK                               Date: 09/05/93  8:17p
Subj: CDs                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MK> I am in Canada and would like Price List for People
 MK> and COmpanies in the States, I am a Distributer.
 MK> Please Mail me at

Call Faye at Tradeshows.....317-651-1223.  Tell her Doug Carpenter sent ya <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4430
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 09/05/93  8:18p
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DS> HI there, do you have 7th Guess, and how much is it?

That would be 7th Guest.  We have it in stock at $39.  Call 615-339-0235 24
hours to order.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4431
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/05/93  8:24p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES GALORE                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS>  FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-

Mike, I'll take one of those COD if you would.  I'm going to get into selling
firearms shortly and it would come in handy.

Send to PCJ, 323 TN Nursery Rd., Cleveland, TN  37311.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4432
  To: STEVE BERRY                              Date: 09/05/93  8:26p
Subj: Wondering...                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SB> What is the BEST Files.BBS Formated BBS CD rom out
 SB> at this time? for use on
 SB> ANY bbs to be a little more critical?

Nightowl 9 has a Files.BBS in each subdirectory.  We have it in stock at
$25....call 615-339-0235 24 hours to order.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4433
  To: THE SISTER                               Date: 09/05/93  8:27p
Subj: Adult Cd-rom Disk 4Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TS> old. It contains over
 TS> 600+ megs of ADult files. This Disk was Banned in
 TS> Japan. I have used it

Storm III and all the other 80+ ADULT cd titles are banned in Japan.  They have
strict customs regulations against pornography of any sort.  They even ban a
lot of normal art pictures.

 TS> the females are BBS ad
 TS> Free. I paid $79.00 plus shipping for it I am asking $65.00 plus
 TS> shipping.

That's a little steep.  We have it in stock every day of the week for $28.95
plus shipping.

 TS> for $169.00 It is also completly menu driven. If includes Grasp/Dl/Fli
 TS> Gif & Text files. There are over 100 files here. I
 TS> would like to get at
 TS> least $60.00 out of it. But if you want both I will take  $100.00 plus

Someone would have to be absolutely crazy to pay $60 for only 100 files on that
particular CD series.  For 1/3 of that you can get Moving Fantasies that has
over 330 animations which is more than the Animation Fantasies 1 and 2
combined.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4434
  To: JOHN PIMENTEL                            Date: 09/05/93  8:34p
Subj: CD CADDIES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JP> Where (other than Mike Shannon -- NOTE nothing
 JP> against Mike, but I need a comparison) can CD
 JP> Caddies be bought and how much??

We sell them every day in any quantity for $4.95 each...

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4435
  To: SID LEE                                  Date: 09/05/93  8:35p
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 SL>  I've always understood they were pretty good in the States but
 SL>  they are terrible in Canada. When stuff comes in from outside

Mike is right on the convienence of UPS.  It beats standing in line at the post
office any day of the week.  The Post Office is a bit more reliable though.  I
have heard this from many customers and as an example, only 2 orders of mine in
all the literally hundreds of orders have been lost in the last year, and you
guessed it, both were lost by UPS.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4436
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/05/93  8:38p
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BJ> Mega Win/OS2            Mega A/V               Mega ROM 1
 BJ> Mega ROM 2

I'll take all your Mega stuff if in good condition.  Send COD to PCJ Computing,
323 TN Nursery Rd, Cleveland, TN  37311.  Leave me a message at 800-547-7817 if
they are going to be sent....thanks...

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4437
  To: J. ALLEN                                 Date: 09/05/93  8:40p
Subj: Re: Jem Disk CD-Rom Trade In Sale       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JA>                    Grand Total Savings  $0.00  <----  (or worse)

Good point Mr. Nader <g>.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4438
  To: J. ALLEN                                 Date: 09/05/93  8:41p
Subj: Re: Busty babes #1                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 JA> That would make selling or reselling it copyright
 JA> infringment.  Wasn't there
 JA> a dealer claiming (or asking) large resell amounts
 JA> for copies of that disks
 JA> in this echo?

Any complaints about Busty Babes should be directed to Lee Noga.

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From: JESSE SCHMELZER                        Number: 4439
  To:                                          Date: 09/05/93  5:31a
Subj: Wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Anyone have the following cd's for 75 delivered??

Busty Babes 2 & 3
Aminet
Night Owl 9.0

Leave me a reply
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From: MARK ELSON                             Number: 4440
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/05/93  8:19p
Subj: Busty Babes II                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris,

Are you going to carry the Busty Babes II??? If so and they are 25.00
please send me one when they are released...you should have my info on
hand...if not let me know...

Mark


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From: DON HANCOCK                            Number: 4441
  To: ERIC ENGELMANN                           Date: 09/05/93  6:52p
Subj: Re: Red Hot Summer                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Eric Engelmann to Don Hancock <=-

 DH> Expecially xBase and
 DH>         C/C++.
 EE> Leave your address, and I'll send you a brochure for EMS Professional
 EE> Shareware's July'93 C/C++ and Xbase CD-ROM libraries. The C/C++ has

    Don Hancock
    6917 SE Cooper
    Portland, OR  97206
    [phone]
... If you don't play sports, you don't get to make all those commercials.
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4442
  To: CHRIS JOHNSON                            Date: 09/05/93 10:26p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Chris!

Have 7th Guest for sale or trade, I'm looking for memory simms, or will sell
for $40.OBO

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4443
  To: DARREN SELLER                            Date: 09/05/93 10:29p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Darren!

Have 7th Guest for sale or trade, I need some simms or will sellcd for $40. or
best offer.

Pat

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From: HARVEY BRODY                           Number: 4444
  To: DOUG SNELL                               Date: 09/05/93  7:52p
Subj: Dealer?                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

No, Doug, just a poor hacker. I would suggest that the best source of CR-ROMS
would be Processor, Nuts and Bolts, Computer Shopper, mags or a computer show,
now to forget the various echos.
                                       Harvey

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From: DONNIE RAYNOR                          Number: 4445
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93  6:18p
Subj: PROBLEM with CD ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Hi,
   I was wondering if any could shed some light on a problem that is about
 to drive me crazy? I bought a new Mitsumi internal CD-Rom and installed it
 in my 386/40mhz IBM clone. I have a SBPro sound board installed and am using
 the controler board that came with the Mitsumi to run the CD-Rom drive.
   O.K. this is where it gets strange. After installing the drive it worked
 great. Then all of a sudden it just quit working, when I would go to access
 the drive the busy light will light up but nothing happens. At that point I
 have to boot the system. I can remove the controller and reinstall it and it
 will start working again. The drive will allow me to use it a couple of
 times, then sooner or later when I access the drive the busy will light up
 and just stay lit. The only way I can get the drive to turn lose of the CPU
 is to boot it.
   If anyone has any ideas on this one please respond.

                                                      Thanks,
                                                      Donnie Raynor

... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message."
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4446
  To: MICHAEL KOKOTT                           Date: 09/05/93 10:24p
Subj: Re: Busty babes #1                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MK> whats the price for that cd? and is it possible to send it to Germany?

$27.95 on all pre-orders.....yes, can be sent to Germany for less than
$10......

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4447
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93 10:27p
Subj: over 21 CDROMS                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

             ************************************************
              PCJ ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST - Last update: 9/06
             ************************************************
             Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)  ** BBS Ready
             Orders - 800-547-7817 / Inquiries - 615-339-0235

 101 POSITIONS 1..(Professionally produced educational movies)...39.95
 101 POSITIONS 2..(Professionally produced educational movies)...39.95
 ADULT PALATE..(Stills from films-Hi-Rez-Windows)................29.95
 ADULT REFERENCE LIBRARY..(500 MB-2500 Gifs-Fetishes Galore).....23.95
 AFTER DARK Trilogy..(Movie shorts-video for windows included)...43.95
 ALL BEAUTIES..(Swimsuit to adult-600 meg-SVGA/Animations).......29.95
 AMATEUR MODELS..(500+ centerfold pics-All SVGA or 24 bit **)....33.95
 AMERICAN GIRLS..(High quality models/centerfolds by S. Hicks)...34.95
 ANIMATION FANTASIES I..(105 animations/moving pics).............28.95
 ANIMATION FANTASIES II..(105 animations/moving pics)............28.95
 ASIAN LADIES..(660 mb-oriental x-rated pics **).................31.95
 BEST of VIVID Clips..(Movie clips using T.M.M. technology)......39.95
 BUSTY BABES..(Gifs-800+ celebrities-amateur **).................26.95
 DEEP THROAT..(The original classic-Windows).....................42.95
 DIGITAL DANCING..(Interactive strip game).......................48.95
 DIGITAL DREAMS..(All R-SVGA-660+ mb **).........................26.95
 DIRTY TALK..(Movie-38 minutes-4 ladies).........................44.95
 DOORS of PASSION..(Interactive movie-hidden doors)..............46.95
 ECSTASY Hot Pics I..(560 mb-330 anims-470 stories-2600 gifs **).26.95
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 1..(710 mb-4300+ gifs/viewers)................34.95
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2..(like version 1)...........................34.95
 EXTREME DELIGHT.................................................44.95
 FOR ADULTS ONLY 2..(680+ mb-VGA/SVGA gifs-anims-games-text **)..36.95
 GBL..(Gay/Bi/Lez-400+ hard to find alternate lifesytle pics)....36.95
 GIFFY GOLD..(All R-Giffy girls-San Diego models **).............34.95
 GIRLS of VIVID 1..(500+ hand picked slides).....................39.95
 GIRLS OF VIVID 2..(500+ hand picked slides-no dupes with 1).....39.95
 HIDDEN OBSESSIONS..(Fractal compression movie-runs from DOS)....47.95
 HIGH VOLUME NUDES..(500+ great photos)..........................38.95
 HOT HUNKS..(All males)..........................................38.95
 HOUSE of SLEEPING BEAUTIES..(Adult Movies)......................46.95
 ISLAND GIRLS..(Vga gifs-swimsuits/nudes-Hawaii).................44.95
 KAMA SUTRA..(Movie clips using T.M.M. technology)...............44.95
 LEGENDS OF PORN..(Quicktime movies of the stars)................44.95
 LOCAL GIRLS..(Vga gifs-swimsuits/nudes-Hawaii)..................44.95
 LUSCIOUS LADIES.................................................34.95
 MANPOWER..(All gay-1600 gifs-SVGA-no install needed **).........34.95
 MOVING FANTASIES..(200 adult movie shorts-GL/FLI)...............25.95
 MY FIRST TIME..(80 Minutes-2 discs-movie).......................36.95
 MY PRIVATE COLLECTION I.(675 mb-SVGA gifs **)...................32.95
 MY PRIVATE COLLECTION II.(650 mb-SVGA gifs-no dupes with v1 **).32.95
 MYSTIQUE of the ORIENT..(600 meg-movies)........................44.95
 NEW WAVE HOOKERS..(Movie featuring Ginger Lynn).................44.95
 NIGHT WATCH (Interactive full-length movie).....................47.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 2..(530 mb-scans/amusements **).................25.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 3..(630 mb **)..................................25.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 4..(Best of Windy City scans **)................25.95
 Nix Pix-HOT PIX 5..(**).........................................25.95
 PC-PIX 1..(600+ mb gifs **).....................................29.95
 PC-PIX 2..(630+ mb gifs-no dupes with v1 **)....................29.95
 PC-PIX 3..(660+ mb gifs-no dupes with v1 or v2 **)..............29.95
 PHOTO GALLERY..(R-rated-best of Penthouse shoot-Steve Hicks)....36.95
 PHONE SEX..(500 meg-erotic conversations-8/16 bit Sterso-Wav)...24.95
 PHYSICAL THERAPY..(Replacement for XXX Extreme).................21.95
 PORKWARE 1..(2024 gifs-37 targa files-660 mb)...................31.95
 PORKWARE 2..(3308 gifs-135 movies-648 mb).......................31.95
 PRIVATE PICTURES 1..(600 images-70 mini-movies).................35.95
 RIMFIRE PACIFIC..(Best of adult movie clips)....................44.95
 SEEDY Rom #1....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #2....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #3....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #4....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #5....................................................24.95
 SEEDY Rom #6....................................................24.95
 SEEDY ROM 6-Pak..(29,000+ files-no dupes-gifs/anims/text)......128.95
 SEEDY ROM 7th Heaven..(2900+ gifs)..............................30.95
 SEEDY ROM MOVIE Disc..(Best of amateur/profsnl-60+ minutes).....38.95
 SEYMORE BUTTS (Interactive movie disc-100+ minutes-Windows).....47.95
 SMUTWARE..(640+ mb-1000 SVGA gifs-2000 VGA gifs-100 anims **)...26.95
 SO MUCH STAREWARE..(579 mb-2600 gifs-text-200 anims-sound **)...31.95
 SOUTHERN BEAUTIES..(1000+ gifs-all new-SVGA from slides)........29.95
 STORM I..(700+ mb-5268 VGA gifs-87 anims-574 stories **)........22.95
 STORM II..(656+ mb-VGA/SVGA gifs-slide shows **)................22.95
 STORM III..(3000+ stills-half gay **)...........................22.95
 STORM 3-Pak..(ALL 3 CDs)........................................67.95
 TOTAL FANTASY 1..(From Denmark-3750+ gifs-220+ animations **)...27.95
 VISUAL FANTASIES..(600+ mb-2600+ gifs)..........................34.95
 WICKED-X..(Movies using Kodak Photo CD technology-included).....49.95
 VOLCANO..(400 VGA-900 SVGA R-rated gifs)........................32.95
 XXX-XTreme..(Best of overseas scans/automations)................29.95

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4448
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/05/93 10:28p
Subj: BBSCon                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 LN> You would should consult a first ammendment attorney in your area for
 LN> these answers--I would be speaking out of tongue to
 LN> say what I feel your State will tolerate.

You could speak about Oklahoma for sure since they just busted Mid-America
Digital Publishing (author of the Magnum CDS) for having adult material on his
BBS I believe it was.....will be interesting since they are saying his rights
were blatantly violated....

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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4449
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 09/05/93  5:42p
Subj: Re: Seventh Guest                       Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Sorry It's gone.
Keep looking though there are a lot of copies floating around at good prices.

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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4450
  To: MARTIN GOMEZ                             Date: 09/04/93  8:35a
Subj: Cd-Rom Trade...                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

1.Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego? DEluxe Edition
2.Mantis Experimental Fighter & Civilization(on same cd)
3.Battle Chess

What's your price on mantis and carmen.

Don't have many cd to trade.

Thanks a million!


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From: PAT RILEY                              Number: 4451
  To: KEVIN MCDERMOTT                          Date: 09/05/93 10:01p
Subj: The 7TH Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KM** Would anyone be willing to sell their used copy of T7G for $30?
  **(CompUSA's price is REALLY good, but I just don't have the money :)).
  **           Kevin
I'll sell you a new one for $45 plus postage.

 * QMPro 1.50 41-2633 * White Dwarf seeks Red Giant for binary relationship.

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From: DERIK MINNICH                          Number: 4452
  To: BOB BREED                                Date: 09/05/93 10:03a
Subj: Re: Repair/Upgrade Cd Drive?            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Bob,

The problem you are having could be caused by a dirty lense, alignment
slightly off or internal hardware.  The light staying on indicates that the
drive is not properly reading the disc to check the format.  You can contact
Toshiba about your drive at the following numbers:

   Toshiba Technical Support

   Irvine, CA     714-455-0407
   Cambridge, MA  617-354-6720

They can give you some info on helping you with your drive.  As far as
upgrading it, I couldn't tell ya.  Check with them and see what they say.

Good Luck!

Derik Minnich

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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 4453
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/05/93  6:18p
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 BJ> I'm clearing out my shareware and misc.CD collection. All CDs listed are
 BJ> in like-new condition and are priced at
 BJ> $5.00 each. Please add $3.00 postage
 BJ> PER ORDER.  Post here or call [phone] to reserve or confirm
 BJ> availability. Will consider trades for adult CDs.

Hi Bob-

I'll take the lot. $80 + shipping. Let me know Netmail(if its available for
you) or here the shipping cost via USPS 2'nd day. This a serious offer!
Sorry- no adult disks you probably dont have already.<G> #815.235.4011 (Just in
case you wanted it for confirmation. ;-). Thanks!

p.s. All are in *fair* condition -no scratches- I take it?



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From: ANDREW SETO                            Number: 4454
  To: KEVIN RICH                               Date: 09/05/93 11:15p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi Cd-Rom For Sa               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

    The price was $180 and i'll pay shipping.


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From: SCOTT LACKEY                           Number: 4455
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/06/93  9:39a
Subj: sick                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HK> DN>I am wondering.  WHat does "wife-proof" mean in an adult-cd-rom?  I

HK> DN>seen that before in ads.

HK>

HK>     Being a "wife" myself, I've had to avoid all these luscious-soundi

HK>     CDs since I'd obviously be unable to use them. Geee... I guess tha

HK>     it means:

HK>

HK>     1)  Females are physically or mentally unable to open the CD case?

HK>     2)  Wives are obviously computer-phobes and wouldn't think to get

HK>         a directory listing to see what's on the disk?

HK>     3)  The lady of the house would only be incensed by such adult

HK>         material, and therefore must be "protected" from it by having

HK>         hubby hide the evidence?

HK>     4)  Nobody but males read the CDROM ads and would ever realize tha

HK>         such trickery occurs...

HK>

HK>     Maybe one of these days someone will come out with a good CD full

HK>     adult material for us ladies. And hopefully it'll be husband-proof

HK>     I'd hate for hubby to realize that I'm enjoying such things!  ;-)

HK>

HK>     Just to keep this on track as a "For Sale" message... Does anyone

HK>     know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females? Title and

HK>     price, dealers?

HK>

HK> - Heather

HK> ---

HK>  * DeLuxe* 1.12 #2986 * The power of positive lechery

HK> --- FidoPCB v1.4 beta-'e'

HK>  * Origin: Sound Advice - 24 Nodes [phone] (1:280/333)

HK>

HK>

I really hope you're kiddin' cause I think porno is sick for

UNMARRIED people, and I think any married person who would choke

their chicken or shove their pudding during one should be shot.



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From: CARL SLAWINSKI                         Number: 4456
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/06/93  1:07p
Subj: Re: BBSCon                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ahoy Bob!

On <Sunday September 05 1993>, Bob Jackson was mumbling to Lee Noga:

 BJ> I'd like to see this list. Would you mail me a copy?

Here's the list that she read at ONE BBSCON.


State           City/Location
=============================

Alabama -       All
Arizona -       Phoenix
Florida -       Northern District
Georgia -       Atlanta
Indiana -       Southbend
                Lafayette
                Fort Wayne
                Hammond
                Gary
                Western District
                Indianapolis
Iowa    -       Northern District
Mississippi -   All
North Carolina  All
New York -      Buffalo
Oklahoma -      All
Pennsylvania -  Harrisburg
                Scranton
Tennessee -     Memphis
Texas -         Dallas
Utah -          All
Virginia -      All
Wisconsin -     Western District
                Euclair



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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 4457
  To: STEVE KRUEGER                            Date: 09/06/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: BB cd rom                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SK> Hey guys...does the Busty Babes CD show any "PINK"???

SK> Inquiring minds want to know...Id be interested if is showed some PINK!


Oh No!! Must be a YOUNG one to ask such a question!!

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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 4458
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/06/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO> )))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

BO> NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
BO> period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
BO> bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
BO> who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
BO> viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.

BO>                      PRICE - $25.00

BO> To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263

BO> )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((


Boris,

If you deliver COD I will call your order line listed above.

I don't use credit cards (couldn't trust the wife or myself with one).

Thanks


Bill

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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 4459
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 09/06/93 12:00a
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EB> CDRoms for sale:

EB>  Simtel MSDOS May 1993              $15.00  630+ Megs MSDOS
EB>  Aminet June 1993                   $15.00  Hundreds of megs of Amiga
EB> Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order, 2nd day priority shipping.
EB> I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD charges.

EB> Send checks/money orders to, and/or feel free to contact:

EB> Eric Bravick
EB> USF 3008
EB> 4202 E. Fowler Ave.
EB> Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

EB> [phone] (Voice)
EB> [phone] (BBS)
EB> Netmail 1:377/53.0

Eric,

Send me these two items for $40 total ($15 apiece + $5 S&H and $5 COD) to:



Bill Alexander

509 Pine Ridge Ln.
Aubrey,TX 76227


Leave a response so that I'll know when the "POST MAN" will be here!!


Later

Bill

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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 4460
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 09/06/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: Elysian Archive /Amiga              Refer: NONE
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IA> Coming Soon!....

IA>             Elysian Archive
IA>  Welcome to the World of Amiga...

IA>  Finally, an Amiga CD-ROM designed for BBS'!..

IA>  * Games
IA>  * Utilities for all Amiga Models
IA>  * Tracker Modules(ST/NT/MED)
IA>  * Demos of commercial software
IA>  * Eurodemos
IA>  * Animations
IA>  * 24 bit images
IA>  * Programming

IA>  CD Specifications
IA>  * ISO9660 format; readable by Amigas and PC's
IA>  * File names are in 8.3 format for compatibility
IA>  * Over 6000 files
IA>  * Over 600 Megabytes

IA>  Produced by TFS
IA>  Published and Distributed by GroupWare

IA> -!- DB 1.53/002199
IA>  ! Origin: GroupWare-Voice:1-800-373-0628 Fax:[phone] (1:138/116)

Ismail,

When will it be available, and how much will it be? Hope that it will be
reasonable!!


Let us know!!!



Later

Bill

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4461
  To: RUSS MICHAELSON                          Date: 09/05/93 10:55a
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
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 RM>         BOB, I'd like the following CDROMs:


Sorry, all gone except one. See new post for that, please.
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4462
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93  1:07a
Subj: CD PACKAGE DEALS                        Refer: NONE
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          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS   |
         |________________________________________________________|


1. Night Owl 7.0     2. Storm 1     3. Southern Beauties     4. Hot Pix 3
   Night Owl 8.0        Storm 2        All Beauties             Hot Pix 4
   Night Owl 9.0        Storm 3        Amateur Models           Hot Pix 5
   -------------        -------        --------------           ---------
   $69                  $65            $89                      $79


       5. Night Owl 8.0     6. Night Owl 9     7. All Beauties
          Night Owl 9.0        Pier 2             Southern Beauties
          -------------        ------             -----------------
          $49                  $59                $59


8. Up All Night            9. Empire Clipart             10. Pier 2
   Super CD 2                 Clipart Heaven                 SW Vault 2
   So Much Shareware 3        Encyclopedia of Clipart        SW Studio 2
   -------------------        -----------------------        -----------
   $63                        $59                            $65


11. CD Winbox      12. House of Games     13. Busty Babes     14. Storm 2
    Windows 93         Game Arena             Ecstasy             Storm 3
    ----------         ----------             -------             -------
    $44                $35                    $49                 $49


15. Fantazia Fonts         16. Porkware 1       17. Compton's Interactive
    Fontmaster 2               Porkware 2           U.S. Atlas MPC
    Too Many Typefonts         All Beauties         Learning Adventure
    ------------------         ------------         ------------------
    $49                        $89                  $129


PLUS, AN ADDED BONUS . . . . .

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4463
  To: RICHARD BUNTON                           Date: 09/06/93 12:05a
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
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RB>Ronald, I just ordered this disc from Boris...I asked him specifically
RB>if this was an, "UPDATE", Since he used this word in his ad"...Or if
RB>it was the COMPLETE Encyclopedia...He told me it was the complete
RB>Encyclopedia. (Price 95.00 Dollars).

Richard,

The easy way to tell the upgrade version from the "retail" version is the
big "$149" price tag on the front of the box.  If yours has this tag, it
is the UPGRADE, not the full retail version which is much more costly.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4464
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93 12:05a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICES 1/2                       Refer: NONE
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 **************************************************************************
 September 1993          DISCOUNT CD-ROM PRICE LIST       Last update: 9/04
 **************************************************************************
                                   1 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 1001 Utilities (New!).........13.00    Mayo Clinic MPC...............28.00
 5-Star Premium Windows........27.00    Mega Clipart (New!)...........29.00
 7th Guest.....................45.00    Microsoft Bookshelf MPC.......56.00
 9000 Sounds (New!)............30.50    Microsoft Cinemania MPC.......58.00
 Adventures of Willy Beamish...30.00    Microsoft Golf MPC (New!).....58.00
 Aircraft Encyclopedia.........36.00    Microsoft Musical Instruments.57.00
 American Business Phonebk 91..17.00    Microsoft Works MPC...........49.00
 American Business Phonebk 92..19.00    Middle East Diary.............35.00
 American Business Phonebk 93..39.00    MIDI Music Shop...............27.00
 Amiga AB20....................15.00    Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50
 Aminet Amiga (New!)...........15.00    Monarch Notes.................59.00
 Amsoft World of Ham Radio.....29.00    Money, Money, Money!..........24.50
 Animals MM San Diego Zoo......23.00    Monster Media 93..............33.00
 Animals MPC San Diego Zoo.....25.50    Mother Earth 2................28.00
 Arizona Images (New!).........30.00    Mother of All Clipart.........23.50
 Arthur's Teacher Trouble......29.00    MPC Wizard for Windows........14.00
 Audubon's Birds...............23.00    Multimedia Computer Tutor.....24.00
 Audubon's Mammals.............23.00    National Business Directory...29.00
 Barney Bear Goes to Space.....20.00    National Geographic Mammals...27.00
 Battle Chess Enhanced.........32.00    National Parks................29.00
 Beauty and the Beast..........32.50    Night Owl 4.1.................20.00
 Bible Library.................28.50    Night Owl 5.0.................21.00
 Bibles & Religion.............13.00    Night Owl 6.2.................22.00
 Britannica Family Choice......33.50    Night Owl 7.0.................23.00
 Britannica Select Software....33.50    Night Owl 8.0.................25.00
 Business Assistant (New!).....13.00    Night Owl 9.0 (In stock!).....29.00
 Business Master...............20.00    Night Owl Business............24.00
 C User's Group Library........31.00    North American Fax Book.......39.00
 California Collection.........17.00    Officer's Bookcase............38.00
 Canadian Shareware (New!).....22.00    Original Shareware............10.00
 Career Opportunities..........29.00    Our Solar System..............13.00
 Carmen SanDiego World Dlx.....28.50    PC-Medic (PC Diagnostics).....29.50
 CD PowerBox...................20.00    PC-SIG #12....................26.00
 CD Winbox (New!)..............25.00    PC-SIG #13 (Pre-orders).......33.00
 CD Grab Bag Disc..............19.00    PC Gameroom...................27.00
 Chessmaster 3000..............27.00    Pentomino.....................32.00
 CIA World Fact Book...........23.00    Peter and the Wolf............27.00
 CICA Windows Shareware........16.00    Phoenix 3.0 ($6 w/ any order).13.00
 Classic Collection + 4-Pak....52.00    Phoenix 4.0 (New!)............28.00
 Clipart Galore................28.00    Phonedisc USA (New!)..........69.00
 Clipart Goliath...............13.00    Pier 2........................33.00
 Clipart Heaven (New!).........25.00    Pier 3 (Pre-orders)...........39.00
 Color Magic Clipart (New!)....27.00    Pinacotheca Multimedia........24.00
 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00    Pixel Perfect Graphics........32.00
 Complete Bookshop.............13.00    Plant Doctor..................37.00
 Composer Quest................34.00    PowerPak Gold 3.0 (Update)....15.00
 Compton's Interactive Ency....97.00    Precision Mapping (New!)......79.00
 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....66.00    ProPhone 1993 7-Pak..........109.00
 Compton's MPC Encyclopedia....66.00    Profiles of Colleges..........34.00
 Conan the Cimmerian...........33.00    Programmer's MegaPack.........29.00
 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50    Publique Art (600 dpi)........36.00
 Cookbook Heaven (New!)........27.00    Publish-It 2.0................29.00
 Cybergenic Ranger (New!)......27.00    Publisher's Dream Disc........38.50
 Danger Hot Stuff! 1...........20.00    Publisher's Paradise..........35.00
 Danger Hot Stuff! 2...........25.00    Q&A 4.0.......................39.50
 Deathstar Arcade Battles......13.00    QRZ Ham Radio.................19.00
 Desert Storm..................36.00    Reader's Library..............28.50
 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50    Reel Clips (New!).............44.00
 Dictionaries & Language.......13.00    Reference Library.............27.50
 Dictionary of Living World....38.50    Return to the Moon (New!).....36.00
 Dinosaur Adventure............33.00    Roger Ebert Movie Companion...42.00
 Dr. Games (New!)..............23.00    Sci-Fi (GIF's, Games, etc)....26.00
 Dr. Music (New!)..............23.00    Secret of Monkey Island.......24.50
 Dr. Shareware (New!)..........23.00    Secret Weapons of Luftwaffe...24.50
 Dr. Windows (New!)............23.00    Shakespeare...................17.50
 DTPro.........................28.50    Shareware Explorer 4-Pak......54.00
 Education Master..............20.00    Shareware Extravaganza 4-Pak..44.00
 Electronic Cookbook (New!)....33.00    Shareware Online 1............25.00
 Electronic Home Library.......37.00    Shareware Online 2 (New!).....37.00
 Empire Clipart................26.00    Shareware Overload............13.00
 Encyclopedia of Clipart.......26.00    Shareware Studio 1............20.00

      600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS/OS2 CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shi
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4465
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93 12:05a
Subj: CD-ROM PRICES 2/2                       Refer: NONE
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                                   2 of 2
 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

 Encyclopedia of Sound.........15.00    Shareware Studio 2............25.00
 European Monarchs.............35.00    Shareware Studio 3 (New!).....29.00
 Family Doctor.................29.50    Sherlock Holmes...............17.50
 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......29.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...23.00
 Find-It Webster...............49.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...55.00
 Firearm Reference (New!)......30.00    Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...55.00
 Font Master 1.................19.00    Sights & Sounds...............25.00
 Font Master 2.................28.00    Simtel 20.....................16.00
 Food Analyst..................36.50    So Much Screenware............28.00
 Fresh Arte....................36.00    So Much Shareware 1...........22.50
 Game Arena (New!).............13.00    So Much Shareware 2...........27.00
 Game Master...................20.00    So Much Shareware 3 (New!)....28.00
 Game Pack 2...................27.00    Software Vault 1..............22.00
 Games 1993....................25.00    Software Vault 2 (All 93!)....24.00
 Gameware Collection (New!)....24.00    Software Vault Gold (New!)....29.00
 Garbo MS-DOS/Mac..............15.50    Sound Effects Library (New!)..19.00
 GIF's Galore (G Rated)........16.50    Sound Sensations..............13.00
 Giga Games (New!).............26.00    Sound Works...................19.00
 Gigabyte Gold.................24.00    Soundware Collection (New!)...27.00
 Global Explorer...............93.00    SoundWAV......................25.00
 Golden Immortal...............25.00    Source CD-ROM.................20.00
 Grammy Awards.................36.00    Space Adventure...............33.00
 Great Cities Vol. 1...........25.00    Space Quest IV................24.00
 Great Cities Vol. 2...........25.00    Spirit of Excalibur...........38.50
 Great Wonders of the World....43.00    Sporting News.................26.00
 Grolier's STW Ill. Ency. 2.0..35.00    Sports Best on CD.............28.50
 Grolier's STW MM Ency. 5.0....45.00    Stellar 7.....................25.00
 Grolier's STW MPC Ency. 1.5...47.50    Street Atlas USA..............86.00
 Guinness Disc of Records 92...23.00    Super CD 1....................23.00
 Hacker Chronicles.............26.00    Super Games For DOS (New!)....16.00
 Ham Radio 3.0.................13.00    Super Games For Windows.......16.00
 Hamware 1993 (New!)...........28.00    Talking Jungle Safari.........36.00
 Hobbes OS/2...................16.00    Talking Schoolhouse...........36.00
 Holy Bible/Christian Shrware..24.00    Technotools...................13.00
 House of Games................22.50    Tempra Access Photo Software..25.00
 Indiana Jones Fate of Atl'tis.44.50    Terrorist Group Profiles......40.00
 Interactive Story Time 1......25.00    Time Magazine Comp. Almanac...28.50
 Interactive Story Time 2......25.00    Timetable of Arts/Entertain...29.50
 Int'l Business/Economic Atlas.24.50    Timetable of History/Science..26.00
 Int'l Graphics Library (New!).33.50    Too Many Typefonts............13.00
 Jazz: A Multimedia History....45.00    Top 2000+ Shareware...........23.00
 Jedi Collection 3-Pak.........49.00    Total Baseball................27.00
 Jets & Props..................31.50    Trump Castle..................28.00
 Jokes & Pranks (New!).........13.00    U.S. & World Atlas............25.00
 Jones in the Fast Lane........23.50    U.S. Atlas MPC................25.00
 Just Grandma & Me.............42.00    U.S. Atlas w/ Automap.........29.00
 KGB World Fact Book...........33.00    U.S. History..................29.00
 King's Quest V................24.00    U.S. Presidents...............37.00
 King's Quest VI (New!)........47.00    U.S. Wars: Desert Storm.......34.00
 Klotski.......................19.00    U.S. Wars: Korea..............34.00
 Kodak Photo CD Access.........23.50    U.S. Wars: Vietnam............34.00
 Languages of the World........48.00    Up All Night Shareware (New!).17.00
 Learning Adventure (New!).....13.00    VGA Spectrum 1................14.00
 Library of the Future #1......49.00    VGA Spectrum 2................21.00
 Libris Britannia..............42.00    Visions of Saturn.............23.00
 Lion's Share..................22.00    Vital Signs...................45.00
 Loom..........................19.00    Wild Places...................24.00
 Mac Multimedia Space (New!)...39.00    Window Master.................20.00
 Mac Shareware (New!)..........24.00    Windoware.....................13.00
 MacMillan Dictionary..........35.00    Windows 1993..................25.00
 Macromind Action..............39.00    Wing Commander Sec. Missions..29.00
 Magazine Rack.................24.50    Wing Commander/Ultima VI......24.50
 Magnum One Shareware..........25.00    World Atlas MPC...............26.50
 Magnum Sight & Sound..........25.00    World of Flight...............34.00
 Majestic Places...............38.50    World of Trains...............34.00
 Manhole.......................35.50    World Traveler................15.00
 Mantis........................24.00    World View....................24.00
 Mario is Missing/World Atlas..29.00    World Vision 3-Pak............45.00
 Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...28.50    Wrath of the Demon............29.00

      600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS/OS2 CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4466
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93 12:05a
Subj: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                     Refer: NONE
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 **************************************************************************
 September 1993           ADULT CD-ROM PRICE LIST         Last update: 9/04
 **************************************************************************

 >>> CASH OR CARD SAME PRICE!   NO FEE FOR VISA, M/C, DISCOVER, OR AMEX <<<
 >>>     95% of titles IN STOCK for hassle-free SAME DAY SHIPPING!      <<<

                     Adult Titles (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
 Adult Reference Library.......29.00    Mystique of the Orient (Vid)..59.00
 After Dark Trilogy (Video)....45.00    Nightwatch Interactive (Vid)..49.00
 All Beauties (New!)...........33.00    PC-PIX 1......................30.00
 Amateur Models (New!).........35.00    PC-PIX 2......................30.00
 Animation Fantasies 1.........29.00    PC-PIX 3......................30.00
 Animation Fantasies 2.........29.00    Phone Sex (.WAV recordings)...27.00
 Asian Ladies..................34.50    Physical Therapy..............22.50
 Busty Babes vol 1 rel 3.......25.00    Porkware 1....................37.00
 Busty Babes vol 2 rel 1.......29.00    Porkware 2....................37.00
 Debbie Does Dallas (Video)....59.00    Private Collection 1..........35.00
 Deep Throat (Video)...........59.00    Private Collection 2..........35.00
 Digital Dancing (Video).......48.00    Private Pictures..............37.00
 Digital Dreams (New!).........28.00    Seedy ROM 6-Pak (In stock!)..149.00
 Dirty Talk (Video)............59.00    Seedy ROM 7th Heaven..........31.00
 Ecstasy Hot Pics..............33.00    Seedy ROM Movie Disc (New!)...45.00
 Erotic Encounters 1...........36.00    SeXXcapades The Movie (Video).49.00
 Erotic Encounters 2 (New!)....36.00    Seymore Butts Interactive (V).49.00
 Giffy Gold....................35.00    Smutware......................32.00
 Girls of Vivid 1 (New!).......45.00    So Much Stareware.............33.00
 Girls of Vivid 2 (New!).......45.00    Southern Beauties (New!)......30.00
 Hidden Obsessions (Video).....59.00    Storm 1.......................25.00
 Hot Pix 2.....................29.00    Storm 2.......................28.00
 Hot Pix 3.....................29.00    Storm 3.......................28.00
 Hot Pix 4.....................29.00    Storm 3-Pak...................69.00
 Hot Pix 5.....................29.00    Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00
 Kama Sutra (Video)............59.00    T&A 2 the Maxx................29.00
 Lovely Ladies (Swimsuit)......32.00    Total Fantasy (New!)..........33.50
 Luscious Ladies (New!)........35.00    Visual Fantasies..............36.50
 Moving Fantasies..............29.00    Volcano.......................36.00
 My First Time (Video).........39.00    Women of Venus (Swimsuit).....29.00

      600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS/OS2 CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!
    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: JEFF JENKINS                           Number: 4467
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 09/06/93  6:24a
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
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Well yes, if you buy it there it will be 299.00
but if you look on this echo, you will see tha Star Vector carries it
for 97.00 I have the catalog right in front of me.
If you want to call them to confirm that is the same thing ....go ahead!
It pays to shop around!
[phone] Star Vector Software


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From: MICHAEL KOKOTT                         Number: 4468
  To: KEVIN PLUMMER                            Date: 09/05/93  6:06p
Subj: Re: Dealers WANTED !!!                  Refer: NONE
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Hello Kevin,

are you looking for dealers only for the usa or for other countries too?
I'm from germany and if you are interested in selling your cd's here you
are welcom to send me a mail!

Greetings
Michael
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 4469
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93  8:35a
Subj: CD-ROMs wanted ...                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I would like to buy CD-ROM disks at bargain prices.

New or used.

What do you have to offer?

I will consider trades for some of the things that I'm selling.

Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209

Internet: [e-mail]   Fidomail:  Gene Ehrich @ 1:266/22
MCI Mail: 497-8062               Prodigy:   RBCW80A
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From: JOHN HUGHES                            Number: 4470
  To: JIM CLEMENTS                             Date: 09/05/93  9:27p
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JC> -> No, and there apparently are no plans to do so for the indefinite fut
JC> HP>That's funny, I was at a fair a couple days ago at a Britanica both, and
JC> HP>they had it on CD-ROM there.
JC>
JC> Henry, my understanding was that they were looking at cdrom, but
JC> only selling it as a optional extra with the complete paper
JC> encyclopedia. Can you tell us any more about it? Cheers!

The CD-ROM that Encyclopedia Britanica sells covers only the two
volume index and includes some search tools for using the index. The
CD-ROM list price is more than $200 but they offer it "free" when you
buy the full encyclopedia.
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From: DAVID HARRISON                         Number: 4471
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/06/93  7:37p
Subj: Re: UPDATED ADULT CD PRICES             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS> I'm in the process of updating my comparison chart now as some of the new
MS> shareware titles like Shareware Online 2, Software Vault Gold, Shareware
MS> Studio 3, and others are trickling in.  I'm just not sure I want to post it
MS> here because of all the whining and griping that went on last time it was
MS> displayed. <g>
MS>
MS> Later,
MS> .\\ike
Well mike, I run WanderLand BBS 214-258-1037, and I would be more then happy
to make a cd-rom media comparison section on my bbs (might even produce an
online service for it via MNH Software Designs) as well as be a national
distribution site for your updated comparison lists cause that stuff is
extremely important to us sysoply people.  If you are interested then you
can either call my board or file attach your current list to me with some
details and such to 1:124/1211, 777:717/6, 13:100/20, 75:7214/19,
362:214/101, or 150:151/100 David Harrison.  I am very interested in this.

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4472
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  9:43p
Subj: need CD Rom\ BB#1 trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!

My deal went sour on that CD rom I was going to get for that great BB#1 cd I
have so if any one is wanting to trade for this cd let me know, I'll take any
thing such as a cd player, 386 mother board, simms, tape backup, or cd's.

Pat

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From: JOANNINE GESUALDO                      Number: 4473
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  9:16a
Subj: Pressing A Master                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!
        I am looking for someone to press a Cd-Rom Disk Master of a New Adult
Cd-rom I am creating. I can supply the files & guarnntee that none of the
material is copyrighted. Everything is orginal.
        Let me know via this echo or at Fido 1:290/13 if you know who could
press the master for me & how much it would cost!
                Joannine

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From: JOANNINE GESUALDO                      Number: 4474
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/06/93  9:26a
Subj: ADULT CD FOR TRADE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Michellea!
In a message to Heather Krause <09/02/93> Michellea Sorensen wrote:
MS> ->   Maybe one of these days someone will come out with a good CD full
MS> -> of
MS> ->   adult material for us ladies. And hopefully it'll be husband-proof.
MS> ->   I'd hate for hubby to realize that I'm enjoying such things!  ;-)
MS> ->
MS> ->   Just to keep this on track as a "For Sale" message... Does anyone
MS> ->   know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females? Title and
MS> ->   price, dealers?
MS> Hi Heather!

MS>    Well, I know exactly what you mean. Being a woman myself, as well as
MS> a wife, I understand this, but I've got one up on the men. I own my own
MS> CD-ROM company! Hey, and as for discs for us ladies, I still haven't
MS> found one, but Hot Hunks sounds like it might be promising. ;-)

MS>    Gimme a call sometime 306-789-4654, and we'll discuss the politics of
MS> men and their "adult" discs. (Which are NEVER wife-proof).
MS>    .\\ichellea
MS> --- The Mail Box [NR]
MS>  * Origin: SUPERBOARD/CD-ROM WHOLESALERS   [phone] (1:140/121)
Do you by any chance press Master disk of other people? Reason I am asking
is that like you & Heather would like to find s Cd-Rom Disk that would offer
some quality Male Nudes for us ladies...I have seen the feew Male Nudes on the
market & I have been SADLY dissappointed. All the images areither Black and
White or they are very grainy... So I have taken to make some new ones for the

adult female users on my BBS. I am currently looking to find some one who can
help me produce a master disk and then help press the copies. I haven't heard
of this Cd- Rom called "Hot Hunks" I will have to look into this one. Please
let me know if you can help me with the master or if you know of someone who
can. Thanks in advance!
                Joannine Gesualdo

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From: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                 Number: 4475
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93  9:55a
Subj: Mitsumi 300Ms                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a price on the mitsumi 300 ms drive.  Does any one
know about these?  What kind of prices (new/used)?

Thanks a Million!


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From: CHRIS JOHNSON                          Number: 4476
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/06/93 10:07a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PR> Hello Chris!

 PR> Have 7th Guest for sale or trade, I'm looking for
 PR> memory simms, or will sell for $40.OBO


        my BO is 35.. YOU ship?

                Chris Johnson


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From: JEFF NEWMAN                            Number: 4477
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/07/93 12:13a
Subj: BB1 Is it worth it?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS> .........................
 MS> numbers and volume numbers?  And also, is Vol 1 Release 1 REALLY worth
 MS> $400????????  Inquiring minds want to know.  8)

 Mike, this is a case of economical supply and demand. Supply is somewhat
 limited, yet portrayed to be VERY LIMITED. Disk for legal, ethical,
 sexual reasons is portrayed as something forbidden, desirable ==>
 high demand. Someone with lots of money panics and bids the disk higher
 than "true" value. Now everyone who owns one thinks that their BB1 is
 now worth some large number of $$$$. Notice the number of people who own
 it and are now trying to sell increasing the SUPPLY. Only a _few_ people with
 lots of money on the international echo will pay something resembling that
 price. However, your internationally unknown seller of BB1 will probably
 get somewhere between $50 - $100. You and Boris and a couple of the
 other "trusted" dealers will earn premiums for your name/integrity.

-Jeff NOPCCCC

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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 4478
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93  2:12p
Subj: Picture Pub. 4.0 on CD                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LATEST Micrografx Picture Publisher 4.0

Easier & cheaper than Photoshop
     FULL Version - NOT an upgrade
     > All Disks
     > All Manuals
     > CD ROM with program & photos
     > WITH Registration Card!

>>>  ONLY $150 + UPS  <<<<

     412-761-9090

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From: BOB ROSOL                              Number: 4479
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93  2:13p
Subj: Designer 4.0 on CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LATEST Micrografx DESIGNER 4.0

FULL version - NOT an upgrade!

Complete: All disks
          All Documentation
          CD ROM w/ program, fonts, clipart
     Open - no reg. card

>>> ONLY $175  + UPS  !!  <<<<<

412-761-9090  fax: 412-766-FAXX



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From: NATE LAWSON                            Number: 4480
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 09/03/93 12:52p
Subj: tentacle                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

How about $20 for the tentacle game?

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4481
  To: NINO FAGAN                               Date: 09/07/93 12:41a
Subj: Re: TOSHIBA CDROM SPECIAL               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    ╒═══════════════════════════════╕
>>   TOSHIBA 3401 CDROM Player %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>> Internal Bare Drive - $389. - Bare = Drive, caddy and manual
>>    ╘═══════════════════════════════╛

>>    Boris,
>>
>>     That model drive came with this computer I bought.  What do I
>>    ask for/how do I describe the caddy that came with it if I
>>    wanted to purchase more.  I've seen ads for "Japanese Caddy"
>>    or "Sony Caddy", amongst others.  Is this the same as the one
>>    that comes with the 3401B?  Wouldn't like to order a dozen or
>>    so caddies and they find out they were the wrong thing.  Sorry
>>    for sounding so ingnorant, never saw one before this computer
>>    arrived.

>>    Regards,
>>    Nino

The Toshiba, like so many other cdroms today use the standard sony
caddies.

Our current price is $4.25ec up to 10 and $4.15 for 10 or more.

If this is of interest to you, please feel free to contact us at
216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to assist you further.

Boris Osadciw

... Xpress Yourself!
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From: DAVE REED                              Number: 4482
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/06/93  1:03p
Subj: BBSCon                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Bob!

Sunday September 05 1993, Bob Jackson writes to Lee Noga:

 BJ> I can understand this, but isn't it a pity we have to be afraid of our
 BJ> own Government?  "Big Brother" *IS* listening!

If you're not engaging in any illegal activity, you have nothing to worry
about.  ;-)


... Clinton Cruise Lines - Taking America for a Ride!

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From: BRYAN BENNETT                          Number: 4483
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  1:27a
Subj: Need a New CD-ROM                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am will to work a deal on a new CD-ROM, if interested please leave
me a message or call...   206-254-4625.
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From: ED JUNE                                Number: 4484
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/06/93  3:05p
Subj: Busty Babes?                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bob Jackson wrote in a message to Chris Kuefler:

BJ> Look at the CD. If it has the words "Graphics Software" on
BJ> it, it's a  "Release 1" and a collector's item.

On the disc itself?  Hmm, I don't have that...

BJ> If those words are missing, check  the DIR listing for a directory
BJ> called "MICHELLA".  If it's there, you  have a "Release 3".

Nope, not there either...

BJ> If it's not there, you have a "Release 2".

Cut & dried, eh?
Guess I have a release 2, oh well...



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From: ED JUNE                                Number: 4485
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/06/93  3:08p
Subj: Re: BB #1 ID, how?                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bob Jackson wrote in a message to Ed June:

 EJ> HOW does one *positively* identify a BB#1?
 EJ> The BamBam Logo?
 EJ> I have that, what else?

BJ> Well, look for the words "Graphics Software" on the CD.

On the disc itself?  Mine dosen't have it *8^(

BJ> If they're there, check out the DIR listing. If "XSTORY1" and
BJ> "XSTORY2" are missing, look for the "MICHELLA" directory. If
BJ> it's missing as well, you've got a "Release 1" BB! (Some of
BJ> these instructions are redundant - but you asked for
BJ> "positive" ID :)  ).

I haven't the 'MICHELLA' directory, but I have both 'XSTORY1' & 'XSTORY2'
Thanks for the reply, I might not have a collectors edition, but a nice disc
  just the same...



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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4486
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/06/93  7:11a
Subj: Re: Busty 2.0 Preorders                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <09-02-93 23:52> Doug Carpenter wrote:

DC>>   * *  B U S T Y  B A B E S  * *  RELEASE 2.0  * * IS BACK!! * *
DC>>    Will be re-released in September.  We are taking pre-orders.
DC>>         The Price - $27.95.  We will meet any price on it.

Tad confusing here--The disc is 'Busty Babes Vol II' first edition-New disc
never before on the market--to include a bonus of 250 MB of shareware.

The previous successor was 'Busty Babes Vol I' Release 3.0) who retired after 3
editions.

Can you change your ascii txt to reflect *VOLUMN II* ?

Thanks,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4487
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/06/93  7:15a
Subj: Re: "New" Busty Babes                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <09-05-93 08:08> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> BTW: Didja read any of my
BJ>> latest  reviews? Wadja think?

Ya mean of BB Vol 1, that I had to ask that you repost because I had not saw it
? If yes, then I must say I enjoyed the comprehensive review ! Your service is
much needed, and I admire your unbias opinions !!!

If your talking about the other adult CD's, refer to paragraph #1 :)

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4488
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/06/93  7:34a
Subj: Re: BBSCon                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <09-05-93 09:27> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>> Do I take it then that your new offerings will be more "R" rated?

The BB Vol II and "Texas Glamour" are both 'Soft n' Seductive' with no
penetration shots--More of an "X" then "R" if you want to get specific.
These 'Softer' disc's were on schedule first and the 3rd one in line is gonna
be a "XXX" disc (licensed collection). It's just the way the projects were
budgeted etc--

The BBV2 disc is more like 'Model Mania' with classifications like:

  a) Tropical, Swimsuit, No panties, no top, wet-t-shirt, teasers,
     full nudity, woman playing with woman, lingerie, from the waist up,
     bunshots, boxshots, girl with boy, etc... 1000 original slides.

  b) Bonus - 250MB of 1993 shareware included on disc.

  c) BBS ready (files.bbs) format--No copyright worries for the sysop

BJ>>  CS>> one of the cities on your list.

      It's faster to type the forbidden list:

         a) All alabama, Phoenix AZ, North Florida, Atlanta GA
            Various districts in IN, All Mississippi, All NC
            Buffalo NY, All OK, Various cities in PA, Memphis TN
            Dallas TX, All UT, All VA, Various districts in WI

BJ>> I can understand this, but isn't it a pity we have to be afraid of
BJ>> our own Government?  "Big Brother" *IS* listening!

This is part of the reason to why adult CD's are banned for discussion in the
CD-ROM echo--A small attempt at protecting distribs.

Hugs,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: JIM CLEMENTS                           Number: 4489
  To: HENRY PAUL                               Date: 09/05/93 11:42a
Subj: ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Henry, my understanding was that they were looking at cdrom, but
-> only selling it as a optional extra with the complete paper
-> encyclopedia. Can you tell us any more about it? Cheers!
HP>Yeah, that's the line we got fed at the fair...
HP>I know I've seen it in an ad somewhere for about $100 I think it was..
HP>I can't remember though...

Well this can get confusing, Henry. There is a Brittanica Family
disc (largely games), and there is also the Compton's Encyclopedia
(which is also called -- erroneously -- the Brittanica encyclopedia
by many people because Compton's was/is owned by the Brittanica.

Compton's NewMedia, which produced the Compton's Encyclopedia
discs, was recently sold -- to Time/Warner I believe.

The Compton's Encyclopedia is NOT the Brittanica, not by a long-
shot. I recommend it for people with fairly young children in the
family. It is very good, but aimed at public school level.

You may well have seen it for $100, in fact that is close to the
Compton's upgrade offer.

I'd be interested in hearing if you come across a true Brittanica
for anything less than $1,0000 (including books). Cheers!
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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 4490
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  7:08p
Subj: Night Owl Graphics Ver. 1               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*@SUBJECT:Night Owl Graphics Ver. 1 !!!                               N
             TCM Computing and Night Owl Publisher Inc., ANNOUNCE:

                         NIGHT OWL GRAPHICS v1 !!!

                         In Stock and Shipping !!!

The same team that brought you Night Owl 9 has now joined forces to bring
you the very BEST in Graphics!!  This new CD contains over 640 Meg. of
high-resolution GIFs and JPGs, as well as TIF, TGA, PCX, Animations,
Clipart, Fractals, Windows wallpaper and icons, plus graphics programs and
utilities:  over 4,500 of the best graphics files from '92 & '93.

                  Availability: NOW!
                  Special Introductory Price:  $39 !!
                  Rated: PG

You can check out this outstanding new Night Owl product yourself by calling
TCM and either (J)oining conference #81 (we have the CD online) or by
downloading NIGHT_G1.ZIP.

                     ** SPECIAL COMBO PRICING **

           Night Owl Shareware v8 & v9................ $55
           Night Owl Graphics and Shareware v9........ $59
           Night Owl Graphics and Shareware v8 & v9... $75  !!! BEST VALUE !!!

Night Owl Graphics v1 may be ordered from TCM in several ways:

  - send check/money order with appropriate Amt. + $3s/h to the address below,
  - call us voice (leave a message if we aren't available)
  - Send us a Fax for Credit Card and COD Orders
  - Call the BBS and leave a message to the Sysop for COD Orders
  - Call the BBS and use the ORDER Door for Credit Card Orders

 [ TCM is the Official Night Owl Support BBS - call for the latest news ]

 [ TCM is an Official Night Owl Distributor - Dealers call for Pricing ]

TCM Computing                                        [phone]
Rt. 2 Box 130                                        [phone] Fax
Midland, Va. 22728                                   [phone] BBS
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From: RAY HEROLD                             Number: 4491
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  7:09p
Subj: Pre-Release Announcement:               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*@SUBJECT:Pre-Release Announcement:  Night Owl Windows v1 !!          N
                  Announcing ANOTHER New Night Owl Product:

                          NIGHT OWL WINDOWS v1 !!!

                     600+ Meg. of files for Windows
                           95%+ 1993 files!
                     Availability:  mid-September '93
                   Windows Retrieval Engine & BBS Ready
                             Price: $49

If you have been looking for a Windows CD with the very best in Programs,
Applications, WAVs, BMPs, AVIs, Utilities, etc., look no further!!  You can
now get all this with the well-known Night Owl quality!!!  PLUS!, the
famous Night Owl retrieval engine has been updated for Windows access!!

TCM is now accepting ADVANCE orders for this new Night Owl product (NO ONE
will have the disk before TCM).  For those of you who would like to check
out the contents of this new CD, we hope to have the DIRs available to d/l
from TCM BBS around Sept. 15th (call the BBS and check for NIGHT_W1.ZIP).
We will also be sending out another TCM Newsletter with the info on this
new disk.  If you aren't on our mailing list leave a message with your name
and address.  Members of our newsletter "family" receive substantial
discounts on all Night Owl products.

TCM has been affiliated with Night Owl for more than 3 years.  We have been
active participants in the development of the disks (e.g. NOPV9 & the new
Night Owl Graphics CD).  Why go with other dealers that sell a bazillion
other disks and are clueless about what is actually on Night Owl?  TCM
specializes in Night Owl; that is why TCM BBS is the Official Night Owl
Support Board.  If the only reason for going somewhere else is price, then
take note:  We we MEET/BEAT any valid advertised price for Night Owl products.
Get your best price and then give us a call.


       ____________________Combo Specials_____________________

       N.O. Windows & Graphics............................$ 69
       N.O. Windows & NOPV9...............................$ 69
       N.O. Windows, Graphics, & NOPV9....................$ 89
       N.O. Windows, Graphics, NOPV9, & NOPV8.............$ 99  !!!SPECIAL!!!

PELASE NOTE: all combos that include the Windows CD will be shipped upon
the availability of the Windows disk (mid-September).  Those of you on
our mailing list will receive a newsletter in appro. 2 weeks with special
discount pricing.  If you want to be put on our list, DO IT NOW!

Night Owl CDs may be ordered from TCM in several ways:

  - send check/money order with appropriate payment (+$3s/h),
    to the address below,
  - call us voice (leave a message if we aren't available)
  - Send us a Fax for Credit Card and COD Orders
  - Call the BBS and leave a message to the Sysop for COD Orders
  - Call the BBS and use the ORDER Door for Credit Card Orders

 [ TCM is the Official Night Owl Support BBS - call for the latest news ]

 [ TCM is an Official Night Owl Distributor - Dealers call for Pricing ]

TCM Computing                                        [phone]
Rt. 2 Box 130                                        [phone] Fax
Midland, Va. 22728                                   [phone] BBS
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From: CARL SCHULTZ                           Number: 4492
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/05/93  5:33p
Subj: 7th guest only $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi would you be wiling to sell me a special price on The 7th guest and Kings
Quest 6 Cd if I bought them at th same time both from you? leave email or call
me at 204-261-0872. -Carl-


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From: CARL SCHULTZ                           Number: 4493
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/05/93  5:38p
Subj: 7th guest only $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

would you be wiling to sell me or anyone out there KQ6 and T7G for a cheaper
price if bought toghether I can get KQ6 for 47$ and T7G for 39$ if bought
seperatly so maybe around 80$, just leave me a message if so. Thanks in advance
_Carl_


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From: RON RICHMOND                           Number: 4494
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/05/93 11:48p
Subj: Canadian sales                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>seizure thing is somewhat overblown.  If the product is packaged and
MS>labeled properly, Canadians have very little to worry about concerning
MS>their shipments from the U.S.

O.K. Thanks for your information. Will keep it in mind for the future.
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From: ED ROGOFF                              Number: 4495
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/05/93 10:09a
Subj: CDS FOR SALE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> I'm clearing out my shareware and misc. CD collection.
-> Post here or call [phone] to  reserve or confirm
-> availability. Will consider trades for adult CDs.

I will take your-
Encyclopedia of ClipArt
World of Flight
World of Trains
and, Ham Radio
CD-ROMS if you still have them.  Please reply here or call my BBS direct
at [phone]  1:102/1008

Thanks,
      -=Ed=-

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From: CARL SLAWINSKI                         Number: 4496
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/07/93  1:50p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ahoy Mike!

On <Monday September 06 1993>, Mike Shannon was mumbling to All:

 MS>  Swimwear 1993 (BBS-Ready!)....29.00

Have any details on this disk?

I'm looking for something to put on the BBS that won't get me in trouble for
obscenity/indecency. Is this really 93 and are the images copyright
infringement free?


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From: CARL SLAWINSKI                         Number: 4497
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93  1:52p
Subj: Adult CDs for Trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ahoy All!

Have the following Adult titles that I would like to trade for something more
tame.

Busty Babes #1 Release 3.0
Super Smutware

Both are BBS ready and in new condition. I only stuck them in the drive once
to look at their content.

Prefer a Swimsuit/Nature Nudity type CD. Not XXX.

Open for Trades or Deals.


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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4498
  To: DOUG SNELL                               Date: 09/02/93  7:56p
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >What make BB #1 so valuable?

It has become somewhat of a collector's item since it's content resulted
in a court case, and subsequent releases were "cleaned up" of the
material in question.  Lee Noga can give you more details if she sees
fit. <smile>

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4499
  To: VITO SERVIDEO                            Date: 09/02/93  7:58p
Subj: Erotic Encounters 2                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >why is eroctic encounters supposed to be banned?

I am not sure yet.  I haven't had a chance to give it much of a look.  I
looked in a few different directories and found nothing unusual so far.

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4500
  To: DAVID HEYDRICK                           Date: 09/02/93  8:00p
Subj: Re: Special Interest                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >JL> I have a couple different titles you may be interested in.  Give me a
  >JL> call and we can discuss the details.  Both titles sell for $39 each.

  >          Now if I can just remember what you are replying to,
  >          its been some time since I have posted in this Echo.

I don't remember exactly what the discussion was, but I remember the
titles referred to were Hot Hunks and GBL.  Were you asking about
something like that?

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4501
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/02/93  9:10p
Subj: Adult Cd For Wives?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HK>   1)  Females are physically or mentally unable to open the CD case?
  >   2)  Wives are obviously computer-phobes and wouldn't think to get
  >       a directory listing to see what's on the disk?
  >   3)  The lady of the house would only be incensed by such adult
  >       material, and therefore must be "protected" from it by having
  >       hubby hide the evidence?
  >   4)  Nobody but males read the CDROM ads and would ever realize that
  >       such trickery occurs...

I guess that trick will work on some, but certainly not all wives.  My
wife has her own little tricks as well.  Sometimes her trick is just
pretending not to catch on to mine. <G>

HK>   Just to keep this on track as a "For Sale" message... Does anyone
  >   know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females? Title and
  >   price, dealers?

Hot Hunks is one such title.  Fair warning, though.  It is slanted for
gays as well as women.  I sell Hot Hunks for $39.

Computer Works                                          Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4502
  To: JOE SLIFER                               Date: 09/07/93  7:16a
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

All *WERE* in like-new cond. but they were all sold by Sat. morn. Thanks  for
the offer, 'tho. (See latest post about Ham Radio CD).
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4503
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/07/93  7:16a
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

All sold out by Sat. morn. Thanks anyway.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4504
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 09/07/93  7:18a
Subj: BBSCon                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Funny, that's what the Nazis and the Communists used to say. End of  thread.
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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 4505
  To: DANIEL HAGAN                             Date: 09/06/93  1:42p
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


DH>UPS delivered about 75 BB version 1 disks here, and I of course told them my
DH>name was Tyrone <G>.

75 BB v1's?!?  I ordered 80! ;{).

DH>You'd think that the readers here would be smart enough to look
DH>around a little before approaching one of the "dealers"...most of the
DH>here beat a dead horse telling buyers they will meet/beat competitor
DH>prices.

You are right.  Readers (including me) should look around a little
before a deciding who to buy from.  Mike and Boris seem to hold a
respectable share of the business.  That's what I went on (and a $10
special on selected software I was interested in) and, I haven't been
disappointed yet.  I just paid over $50 for a CD-ROM disc I could have
got mail order for $28.  Could have kicked myself.


DH>Was surprised to see Mike Shanahan agree to credit the guy
DH>even though the original disks were $10 more.

Mike seems to be a pretty good guy.  He gave me what I feel to be a
valid explanation of why I paid more for a disc that he was selling
for less the next week.  Then turned around agreed to my terms.  I
have to respect that.  I can't prove whether or not he's jerking me
around so, I chose to assume he is being honest.  That's all I ask for
in anyone I do business with.....and fair of course.

        Ty.


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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 4506
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/06/93  1:55p
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


MS>Tyrone,

MS>I DID reply to you in a fairly lengthy message.  If you did not receive it,
MS>give me a call @ 509-457-2892.

MS>Later,
MS>.\\ike

My apologies if my reference to you seemed unfavorable.  The statement
was made in the interest of good (poor) humor.  I recieved your message
later that evening if I remember correctly.

     Ty.


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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 4507
  To: THE SISTER                               Date: 09/07/93 10:51a
Subj: Adult Cd-rom Disk 4Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

TS>I have a copy of Storm III that is about 6 months old. It contains over
TS>600+ megs of ADult files. This Disk was Banned in Japan.
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Joannine Gesualdo,

I don't know if you know much about Japan but anything with pubic
exposure is banned.


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From: PAUL LAWRENCE                          Number: 4508
  To: PAUL LAWRENCE                            Date: 09/07/93  5:11p
Subj: HEY                                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HEY THERE WHATS HAPPENING
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From: PAUL LAWRENCE                          Number: 4509
  To: MARK MANTEI                              Date: 09/07/93  8:11p
Subj: HELLO                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HEY MARK,
 I AM JUST TESTING OUT MY FIDONET AND SEEING WHAT HAPPENS THANX
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 4510
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93 10:32p
Subj: Technical Shareware on CD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

EMS is shipping the last of its July 1993 Technical collections on
CD-ROM before the OCtober 1 editions ship. Current editions have the
following:
Type             Files
Spreadsheet        325
Assembler          391
Access             175
C/C++              987
AutoCAD            820
Xbase             2983
Netware            801
ObjectVision        91
Paradox            490
Science            113
Small Business     238
TrueType           752
TurboPascal 5+     680
Visual Basic       425
VBDOS/QB/PDS       224
Windows Utilities  705
We also have special collectiosn for consumers (games, homepc, etc.).
All collections come with a free 122,000 record database of all PC
products and the firms which make them. Prices range from $29.50 to
$59.50 for individual collections or everything on one CD for $195. For
brochure, call voice:[phone] Fax:[phone]
EMail:[e-mail], or write EMS Professional Shareware,
4505 Buckhurst Ct., Olney MD 20832-1830.


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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 4511
  To: TIM HELTON                               Date: 09/06/93 11:31a
Subj: Pro-Phone 93 Crosspo                    Refer: NONE
Read: 09/20/93  6:51a                       Private: No

-> For $100.00 Prophone is a hell of a buy... If it was 100% accurate,
-> none of us could afford it!


Tim, this discussion so far has been to the accuracy and timeliess of
their data.

My complaint with Prophone is that their search engine sucks!!! It will
find towns by zip code that it will not find by name. Even when I make
sure that the name is spelled correctly.

Frequently I have to go back and research a town because I get no
listings found. Almost every time I get listings by the zip codes of
the town.

One nice thing we've found is that you can search by multiple SIC codes
by listing them in order with a piping symbol between (|).

When I talked to the publisher on the phone they told me there was no
way to do a multiple SIC search.

Anyway with the fact that their data is out of date and incomplete and
the fact that their search engine is defective I question the
usefullness of the program.

James

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 4512
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/02/93  9:39p
Subj: Busty Babes v1.0r                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

THANKS DOUG- YOU CAN PUT ME DOWN FOR ONE.
IF YOU CAN FAX ME A PRICE LIST ON ALL YOUR CDROMS, I WOULD APPRECIATE  IT
BECAUSE I OWN A COMPUTER STORE IN TUCSON ARIZONA AND HAVE MANY CUSTOMERS
ASKING FOR CD'S.   THANKS.
FAX # [phone]

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From: JASON SCHWARTZ                         Number: 4513
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 09/06/93  1:38p
Subj: PC-SIG                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Regarding PC-SIG:
BF>I don't like the way they organise their collections, but they are HIGHLY
BF>reputable.


Could you please elaborate on what you dislike about their organization?
I'm very curious about it. THANKS A LOT FOR THE HELP!!!!

                               -Jason

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4514
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93 11:26p
Subj: great cdrom prices                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     ShareWare (** BBS Ready)       Clip Art Heaven...............25.95
AB20 Amiga CD-Rom.............14.50 Coates Art Review.............44.95
America's Premier 1993 Sharw..22.95 College Handbook (1992).......18.95
Aminet Amiga............**....14.50 Color Magic Clip Art..........26.95
Big Sky.................**....25.95 Colossal Cookbook.............13.00
C Users Group Library.........29.50 Complete Bookshop.............13.00
California Collection...**....16.95 Composer Quest................36.95
CD Powerbox.............**....19.95 Compton's Interactive Encylop.96.95
Fred Fish On-Line(Amiga)**....49.95 Compton's MM Encyclopedia.....59.95
Garbo MSDOS/MAC Shareware.....14.50 Conan.........................32.95
Giga Games..............**....25.95 Consumer Information Disc.....37.50
Gigabyte Gold...........**....22.50 Cookbook Heaven...............19.95
Ham Radio (Shareware).........13.00 Corel 3.0 Floppy + CD........134.95
Libris Britannica.......**....41.95 Corel 4.0 CD Upgrade.........239.95
Lion Share..............**....21.95 Crossword Cracker.............23.95
Magnum Sight & Sound....**....28.95 DAC Accounting Bonus Pk v4.4.154.95
Monster Disc (2 Cds-92).**....37.95 DAC Accounting for DOS v4.4...99.95
Monster Media '93.......**....31.95 DAC Instant Accountng-DOS/WIN.39.95
NightOwl 5.0............**....15.95 DAC Instant Rolodex for WIN3..39.95
Nightowl 6.0............**....22.95 DAC Payroll for DOS v4.4......99.95
Nightowl 7.0............**....22.95 DAC Rolodex Live v2.0.........39.95
Nightowl 8.0............**....24.95 Danger Hot Stuff 1............18.95
Nightowl 9.0............**....28.50 Danger Hot Stuff 2............24.95
Nightowl Bus. Applications....22.95 Day of the Tentacle...........47.95
Original Shareware 1992.**....16.95 DeathStar Arcade Battles......13.00
OS/2 Archives (Hobbes)........14.50 Deep Voyage...................34.95
PC Sig H & B Collection.......29.95 Desert Storm..................34.95
PC Sig #10..............**....22.95 Desktop Bookshop..............27.50
PC Sig #11..............**....24.95 Dictionaries & Languages......13.00
PC Sig #12..............**....24.95 Dictionary of Living World....34.95
PC Sig #9...............**....17.95 Dinosaur Adventure MPC........31.95
Phoenix v3.0............**....12.95 Dinosaurs MPC.................54.95
Pier Shareware #1.......**....26.95 Doctors Book of Home Remedies.36.95
Powerpak Gold...........**....12.95 Dune..........................46.95
SCI-FI (Pics,Sound).....**....24.95 Education Master or Business..19.95
SDN 1...................**....19.95 Electronic Cookbook...........29.95
Shrw Extravaganza(4 cds)**....42.95 Elec. Home Libr.(250 books)...34.95
Shareware 1993..........**....19.95 Encyclopedia of Clip Art......24.95
Shareware Explorer............58.95 Encyclopedia of Sound.........13.00
ShareWare Overload............13.00 Essential Home/Bus Collection.18.95
Shareware Studio #1.....**....20.95 European Monarchs.............48.95
Shareware Studio #2.....**....23.95 Executive Factomatic..........36.95
Shareware Tiger.........**....24.95 Family Doctor.................24.95
Simtel 20 (Gov't Sharw).**....14.50 Fantazia Fonts & Sounds.......27.95
So Much Shareware #1....**....19.95 Fontmaster #1-18.95....or #2..27.95
So Much Shareware #2....**....24.95 Fonts #1......................27.95
So Much Shareware #3....**....26.95 Full Bloom....................36.95
Software Vault #1.......**....22.95 Future Wars...................48.95
Software Vault #2.......**....23.95 Game Arena....................13.00
Sound Sensations..............13.00 GameMaster (Over 500 Games)...19.45
Source Code (Unix/Dos)........20.00 Games 1993................**..24.50
Technotools (Programmers).....13.00 Gifs Galore...................14.50
Top 2000 Shareware............22.95 Global Explorer (Delorme).....91.95
Up All Night............**....16.95 Golden Immortal...............24.95
Winbox (CD).............**....24.95 Gov't Giveaways-Entreprenuers.47.95
Window Master.................19.45 Great Cities of World 1 or 2..24.95
Windoware.....................13.00 Great Wonders of the World....42.95
Windows 1993............**....24.95 Greatest Books Collection.....44.95
Windows - CICA..........**....14.50 Grolier Ill. Encyl. v2........34.95
X11R5/GNU CDRom...............24.95 Grolier Ill. Encyl. v5 MM.....43.95
          Miscellaneous             Grolier Ill. Encyl. v1.5 MPC..46.95
1001 Utilities................12.95 Guiness Disc of Records (92)..22.95
20th Century Video Almanac....32.95 Guy Spy.......................43.95
7th Guest.....................47.95 Hacker Chronicles.............25.95
Adventures of Willy Beamish...24.95 HamWare 1993..................27.95
Aesops Fables.................29.95 Holy Bible & Other Christian..22.95
Aircraft Encyclopedia.........35.95 Home Library..................29.95
Amanda Stories................44.95 Hospitality Index.............39.95
Amer.Bus.Fone Book #1..$17 #2.27.95 House of Games................21.95
American Vista Atlas..........32.95 Inter. Business/Economc Atlas.24.45
Anecdotes.....................26.95 Island Designs................36.95
Animals SD Zoo DOS-21.95..MPC-25.95 Jazz, Multimedia History......39.95
Arthur's Teacher Trouble......27.95 Jets & Props..................31.95
Audobon Mammals or Birds......23.95 Jokes & Pranks................13.00
Barney Bear Goes to School....19.95 Jones in the Fast Lane........19.00
Barney Bear Goes to Space.....21.95 Just Grandma & Me.............41.95
Barron's Book Notes...........39.95 Kathy Smith-Fat Burning Systm.54.95
BattleChess Enhanced..........31.95 Key Clipmaster Pro............32.95
BattleChess MPC...............29.95 Key Fonts Pro.................32.95
Beauty & the Beast (Win3).....28.95 Key Home Designer.............32.95
Bible Library (9 Bibles+).....28.50 Kids Zoo-Baby Animal Adv......36.95
Bibles & Religion.............13.00 Kodak Photo CD Access.........21.95
Brittanica Family Choice......24.95 King James Bible..............27.95
Brittanica Select.............24.95 Kings Quest V.................19.95
Business Assistant............13.00 Kings Quest VI................46.95
Business Phone Dir w/Zip+.....34.95 Languages of the World........47.95
Cameron's Fine Art Poster.....39.95 Learning Adventure............13.00
Carmen San Diego World Delux..27.95 Legend of Kyrandia............54.95
CD Cad v3.7 with manual.......31.95 Library of the Future 1.......47.95
CD Game Pack 1................18.95 ***********************************
Cd Game Pack 2................22.95 * PCJ - 9/05/93 - A 1 Stop Dealer *
ChessMaster 3000 MPC..........24.95 ***********************************
Christmas Carol...............28.95  Orders Only-800-547-7817 (9-9 EST)
Cinnemania....................57.95     These Lines Operate 24 Hours
Classic Collection (4 Pak)....51.95    Orders/Inquiry - 615-339-0235
Clip Art Galore..........**...27.50    Fax            - 615-479-1047
Clip Art Goliath..............13.00    BBS 615-478-2890/615-479-1047

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From: SAM FIGUEROA                           Number: 4515
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/05/93 11:06p
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>I'm clearing out my shareware and misc. CD collection.  All CDs listed are
BJ>in like-new condition and are priced at $5.00 each. Please add $3.00 postage
BJ>PER ORDER.  Post here or call [phone] to reserve or confirm
BJ>availability. Will consider trades for adult CDs.

BJ>CD Winbox               CD Powerbox            Encyclopedia of ClipArt
BJ>Colossal Cookbook       Cookbook Heaven        World of Flight
BJ>World of Trains         Bibles & Religion      Phoenix 3.0
BJ>SDN-1 Plus              Ham Radio              Dictionaries & Languages
BJ>Mega Win/OS2            Mega A/V               Mega ROM 1
BJ>Mega ROM 2

BJ>... Tagline fever is the primary symptom of the Blue Wave epidemic!!
BJ>--- Blue Wave/RA v2.10
BJ> * Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | [phone] |  (1:106/30.0)

Bob,
        I'll take both CD Winbox and CD Powerbox for $10 plus shipping!
        Let me know if you still have both! Tell me if you still have
        Mega A/V or Dictionaries and Languages also.

                                           VERY INTERESTED!
                          Thanks          Sam Figueroa
                                          Sam's Software
                                          [phone]
Call me if you need to!


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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4516
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93 12:15p
Subj: great cdrom prices continued]           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

      Miscellaneous (cont.)              Miscellaneous (cont.)

Lifestyles-R & F Cookbook.....37.95 Sporting News-Pro Football....36.95
Loom..........................18.95 Sports Best on CDRom..........27.95
Lord of the Rings.............54.95 Star Child....................39.95
Lovely Ladies.................27.95 Stellar 7.....................19.95
MacMillan Dict for Children...29.95 Storybook Weaver..............39.95
Magazine Rack.................22.95 StoryTime 1 or 2..............24.95
Manhole.......................35.50 Street Atlas USA (Windows)....85.95
Mantis........................23.95 Swimwear 1993.............**..28.95
Mario is Missing/World Atlas..26.95 Swimwear & More (SVGA)........28.95
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing...24.95 Talking Jungle or Classc.Tale.35.95
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typng v2.49.95 Talking Schoolhouse...........35.95
Mayo Clinic...................26.95 Tempra/Kodak Photo CD Softw...27.50
Mega Clip Art.................28.50 The Complete Twain............31.95
Mega Movie Guide..............42.95 The Grammy Awards.............36.95
Microsoft Bookshelf...........54.95 The Holy Bible................31.95
Microsoft Golf................54.95 The Pill Book.................36.95
Microsoft Music Instruments...56.95 Time Almanac 1990.............16.95
Microsoft Works...............39.95 Time Almanac 1991.............21.95
Midi Music Shop...............26.95 TimeTable of Art/Entertainmnt.27.95
Mixed Up Mother Goose.........19.50 TimeTable of Business/Politic.27.95
Modblaster....................24.95 TimeTable of History/Science..21.95
Monarch Notes.................53.95 Too Many TypeFonts (Laser)....13.00
Monkey Island (Secrets of)....24.50 ToolWorks Reference Library...19.95
Mother Earth..................27.95 Total Baseball Encyclopedia...24.95
Mother of All Clipart (23000).22.95 Travel in Europe..............28.95
MPC Wizard....................13.95 True Crime Stories............36.95
My Advanced Label Designer....42.95 Trump Castle-5 casino games...27.95
My Backup.....................19.95 Ultima I - VI.................35.95
My Label Designer Bundle......42.95 Ultima Underworld 1 & 2.......59.95
Multimedia, All American......32.95 USA Today.....................36.95
Multimedia Tutor..............22.95 USA Wars-Civil War............36.95
National MM Parks Guide.......24.95 USA Wars-Korea................44.95
Nat. Geographic MPC Mammals...24.95 USA Wars-Vietnam..............44.95
Nautilus Subscription Kit.....28.95 USA Wars-World War II.........44.95
North American Fax Book.......38.95 U.S. Atlas MPC................26.95
North American Indians........46.95 U.S. Atlas / Automap..........27.95
Officers Bookcase.............37.95 U.S. Civics...................44.95
Oregon Trail Dlx Vga..........35.95 U.S. History..................27.95
Oregon Trail..................39.95 U.S. Presidents...............35.95
Our House (Family Circus).....42.95 U.S./World Atlas-19.95.....MM-23.95
Our Solar System(Photos,Data).13.00 U.S./World Atlas MPC..........24.95
PC Gameroom...................26.95 VGA Spectrum #1...............14.95
PC Globe 5.0..................49.95 VGA Spectrum #2...............21.95
PC Sig Games..................23.95 Visions of Saturn.............22.95
Pentaminoes...................31.95 Wild Places or World View.....23.95
Peter Rabbit..................24.95 Wing Commander 2 Deluxe.......57.50
Peter & the Wolf (Win3).......24.95 Wing Commander 2/UUnderWrld...59.95
Pharmicist Guide to Drugs.....26.95 Wing Commander/Secret Missn...34.50
PhoneDisc USA.................64.95 Wing Commander/Ultima 6.......19.95
Photos to Remember............34.95 Wizard........................19.95
Pinacotheca MPC...............23.95 Wiz Pack......................11.95
Pixel Garden..................44.95 Women of Venus (Swimsuits)....27.95
Plant Doctor..................36.95 Word Munchers.................28.95
Play w/Lang-Englh/Frenc/Span..49.95 World Atlas MPC...............24.95
Precision Mapping.............77.95 World Atlas Vista.............32.95
Presidents, A.S. w/George.....79.95 World Fact Book (CIA).........19.95
Prophone Business 1993........27.95 World of Flight or Trains.....33.95
Prophone (3 CD Set)...........49.95 World Tour (CIA)..............23.95
Prophone (7 CD set)..........109.95 World Traveler................13.00
Publique or Fresh Arte........35.95 Wrath of the Demon............28.50
Publish It v2.0 (w/Manual)....24.95
Publishers Dream Disc.........37.95   Drives/Sound/Software/Speakers
Publishers Paradise...........32.95
Putt Putt Joins Parade........49.95 CD Caddies (Sony Compatible)..4.95
P.C. Medic (Fix your PC)......29.50 Chinon 435 Int SCSI + CDs...349.95
QRZ Ham Radio.................14.95 Gravis Ultrasound 16bit.....139.95
Readers Library (2000 works)..26.95 Koss Headphones..............14.95
Reference Library.............27.45 Koss Hard Drivers Speakers...32.95
Return to the Moon............34.95 Koss Amplfd Spkrs w/Eqlizer..54.95
Roger Ebert Movie Companion...41.95 Labtec Amplified Mini Spkrs..29.95
Sales Manager's Factomatic....36.95 Labtec Amplifd Stereo Spkrs..44.95
Schumachers Prague Cookbook...44.95 Mitsumi 350ms w/Int. Kit....195.00
Sci-Fi (Pics/Sound/Files).**..27.95 Pioneer 600A (Bare).........829.00
Seals of US Gov't.............44.95 Pioneer 600A with Kit.......929.00
Secret Island Dr. Quandry.....39.95 Pioneer 604X (Bare)........1229.00
Secret Weapons of LuftWaffe...24.50 Pioneer 604X with Kit......1329.00
Secrets-Exec Success Stories..36.95 Sysdos-Parallel port drive..299.95
Seventh Bun...................45.95 Texel DM3024 Int SCSI.......389.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 1...22.95 Toshiba 3401 Int SCSI.......455.00
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 2...54.95 Windows 3.1 (3-1/2" Floppy)..39.95
Sherlock Holmes Cons. Det 3...54.95 Windows 3.1 (5-1/4" Floppy)..37.95
Sherlock or Shakespeare.......16.95 Znix Cordless Mouse/Win 3.1..59.95
Sights & Sounds...............24.95 Znix Serial Super Mouse......24.95
Snap Dragon...................39.95 ***********************************
Snapdragon....................39.95 * PCJ - 9/05/93 - A 1 Stop Dealer *
So Much Screenware (Gifs).**..27.95 * We meet all legit / noncloseout *
Softw Jukebox-All Amer Sports.42.95 * prices in this echo. No hidden  *
Soundblaster MOD Files........24.95 * charges for credit cards. Call  *
Sound Effects Library.........19.00 *  our BBS for our adult title    *
Sound Works (Software)........18.95 *  list and download adult.zip.   *
Soundware Collection..........26.95 ***********************************
SoundWav......................24.95 Orders Only-800-547-7817 (9-9 EST)
Space Adventure...............31.95   These Lines Operate 24 Hours
Space Quest IV................23.95   Orders/Inquiry - 615-339-0235
SpaceQuest4/Kings Quest.......34.95   Fax            - 615-479-1047
Spirit of Excalibur...........38.45   BBS (14400)    - 615-479-1047

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4517
  To: MARK ABBACCHI                            Date: 09/06/93  9:03p
Subj: Anniversary Sale!                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MA>          through the first week of August, 1993! (less than a month
MA>          old!) By far one of the most popular disks we have had in
MA>          stock this year! We have sold over 1000 of these since they
MA>          have been released 10 days ago!

Only 1000?  C'mon Mark, try to keep up with the rest of us.  8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4518
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/06/93  9:03p
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
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BO>>>    week in both the two instances (over 6 years) where they lost
BO>>>    something.  Maybe I'm missing something, but when given a
BO>>>    choice between the two, I always stick with UPS.

BO>Good for you Mike, but personally, this has no place here and how we
BO>got on this subject ???

We got on this subject because you made a generally inaccurate statement
that shipping through the U.S. Postal Service was "cheaper" than U.P.S.,
all things being equal.  I simply stated my opinion that not only was
U.P.S. less expensive for us, but more convenient due to the automatic,
paperless insurance, daily pickup, traceable deliveries, etc.  If you
prefer Uncle Sam, I have no problem with that, but since this IS an echo
dealing with the mailorder buying and selling of CD-ROM related products,
I feel that discussions about preferred shipping methods and companies is
very relevant.  If I'm wrong here, Tim can correct me, but with the vast
number of people who read this echo primarily for the purposes of ordering
CD's and hardware, I would think that any pro/con discussion over the
shipping services we all depend on to receive said merchandise would be
not only relevant, but possibly of some value to the readers.

Later,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4519
  To: JOHN PIMENTEL                            Date: 09/06/93  9:03p
Subj: CD CADDIES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ> JP> Where (other than Mike Shannon -- NOTE nothing against Mike, but I
BJ> JP> need a comparison) can CD Caddies be bought and how much??

BJ>Profit Publishing in Arizona (see ads in back of PC mags) sells caddies
BJ>for $4.75 (any quantity) with purchase of a CD. They're the producers of
BJ>the FAO and the MEGA series of CDs. Nice folks to deal with - just like
BJ>Mike.

John,

We carry the higher quality Japanese-made caddies at prices ranging from
$4.99 to $4.39.  Here is the quantity breakdown:

    JAPANESE CADDIES....1-9: 4.99 / 10-19: 4.79 / 20-49: 4.59 / 50+ 4.39

Hope this info helps.  Call if you need any - lots in stock.

later,
.\\ike

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4520
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  9:03p
Subj: BRAND NEW CD TITLES                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
           |____________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

 5-STAR PREMIUM WINDOWS * Latest Windows shareware + 950 OS2 files!.....$27
 AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK 93/94 * New release. 11,000,000 businesses.$39
 AMINET AMIGA * New from Walnut Creek. Lots of current Amiga shareware..$15
 ARIZONA IMAGES * Fabulous photos of the Arizona desert country.........$30
 CANADIAN SHAREWARE * 6500+ shareware programs ready to run from the CD.$22
 COLOR MAGIC CLIPART * 600 megs. of 3-D color clipart.  Royalty-free....$27
 FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
 GAMEWARE COLLECTION * Over 6000 of the all time best games! BBS-ready..$24
 GIGA GAMES * Brand new from Walnut Creek. Set up for 6 popular BBS's...$26
 HAMWARE 93 * The Ham's #1 source for Ham software......................$28
 KING'S QUEST VI * Newest in the KQ series. Better than 7th Guest!......$47
 MAC MULTIMEDIA SPACE * A multimedia space encyclopedia. (Mac only).....$39
 MAC SHAREWARE * Loads of innovative new Macintosh shareware programs...$24
 MICROSOFT GOLF * Multimedia Golf game that is "on par with reality"....$58
>PHOENIX 4.0 * Finally - An update to 3! Very clean CD with fresh files.$28
 PHONEDISC USA * Summer '93 edition w/ 80 million residential listings..$69
 PINACOTHECA M/M * Multimedia presentation of classical paintings.......$24
 PRECISION MAPPING 1.5 * Newest release! Detailed street-level map......$79
 REEL CLIPS * 600mb of royalty-free digital video clips.................$44
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
>SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$37
>SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD * Totally new shareware w/ no dupes to Vault 2!....$29

                    Adult Titles (must state age 21+)
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 AMATEUR MODELS * All original images of young models. BBS-ready........$35
 BUSTY BABES 3.0 * Newest release of top-selling disc. BBS-ready........$25
>DEEP THROAT * CD version of the famous adult flick. Truly a must-see!..$59
 DIRTY TALK * Full-color, full-motion video w/ adult film stars.........$59
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2 * Sequel to release 1 with fresh, new images.......$36
 KAMA SUTRA * Indian documentary adult film w/ narration................$59
 LUSCIOUS LADIES * Hot new adult .GIF CD with outstanding cover art.....$37
 MYSTIQUE OF THE ORIENT * 600mb movie featuring Oriental beauties.......$59
>PHONE SEX * Actual .WAV file recordings of 900-number conversations....$27
 SEYMORE BUTTS INTERACTIVE * Fantastic new "interactive" adult film.....$49
 SOUTHERN BEAUTIES * Gorgeous photos of beautiful southern women........$30
 TOTAL FANTASY * Newly released .GIF disc from Denmark..................$33

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4521
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  9:03p
Subj: NEWEST SHAREWARE CD!                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |  Title:  SHAREWARE ONLINE #2  |  |   Price:  $37   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

     This outstanding new CD is the ABSOLUTE NEWEST and MOST UP-TO-DATE
     shareware CD available!  All files are dated 1993 with the exception
     of five program sets, giving you a full array of late-release
     shareware, dated between January and August 1993!

     * Fully BBS ready with file listings in six different formats,
       including FILES.BBS, for use with virtually any BBS system.  File
       lists are in every directory, and also a master text directory.
     * No dupes to release 1.
     * 623mb total occupied disc space.
     * 4200+ total files.
     * Improved Shareware Online file retrieval system.
     * All files dated 1/93 to 8/93.
     * Separate directory of ANSI pictures for sysops.

     Don't be fooled by the lower file count on ShareWare OnLine.  ONLY
     QUALITY PROGRAMS are included on this disc.  Very few text files and
     "junk" which makes file numbers high...

       MASTER DIRECTORY INFORMATION FOR: ShareWare OnLine Vol. #2

     DIRECTORY NAME     # OF FILES     TOTAL DIR SIZE    AVERAGE FILE SIZE
   -----------------------------------------------------------------------
       \ANSIPIC              24           2,689,465           112,061
       \ARCHIVER             41           4,172,687           101,773
       \BBSDOORS            112          17,553,296           156,726
       \BBS_SOFT            228          26,881,458           117,901
       \CAD                  42           6,270,163           149,290
       \CLIPART              75          18,175,874           242,345
       \COMM1               198          18,774,740            94,822
       \COMM2               162          22,958,736           141,721
       \DATABASE            128          20,790,364           162,425
       \DEMOS                85          45,597,484           536,441
       \DESK                 33           6,753,341           204,647
       \EDUCATE              68          11,723,020           172,397
       \ELECMAIL             95           8,681,269            91,382
       \FINANCE             127          26,224,848           206,495
       \GAMES1              221          31,420,660           142,175
       \GAMES2              209          27,878,576           133,390
       \GRAPHICS            121          21,256,628           175,675
       \HAM                  35           3,103,623            88,675
       \HOBBY                53           9,630,653           181,710
       \INFOR               177          10,400,453            58,760
       \LINUX                30          29,337,500           977,917
       \MISC                139          21,399,340           153,952
       \MUSIC               184          33,523,012           182,190
       \NETWORK              43           6,746,650           156,899
       \OS2                 124          21,254,494           171,407
       \PICTURE             282          45,412,660           161,038
       \PRINTING             24           3,185,427           132,726
       \PROG                 90          12,857,472           142,861
       \TRUETYPE            277          15,218,836            54,942
       \UTIL1               184          16,319,479            88,693
       \UTIL2               112          12,274,360           109,593
       \VIRUS                25           3,063,903           122,556
       \WIN1                168          22,268,988           132,554
       \WIN2                144          23,869,468           165,760
       \WORD                155          15,094,726            97,385
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   T O T A L S:           4,215         622,763,648           147,749

Special offer:  Get Shareware Online 1 AND 2 for only $57!  Best of 92/93.
                >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 4522
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/03/93  8:31a
Subj: GREAT VALUE & SERVICE                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

IF YOU SHIP COD, I WOULD LIKE THE FOLLOWING CD-ROM DISKS.
1. PROPHONE 1993 7-DISC SET $37.00
2. FOXES $19.00
3. EROTIC ENCOUNTERS $26.00
4. BUSTY BABES (2)) $19.00 EACH  $38.00
--------------------------------------------
TOTAL $120.00 PLUS S&H AND COD CHARGES
SEND TO:STEVE GREENO
        A.B.O. TECHNOLOGY
        2239 E. BROADWAY
        TUCSON AZ. 85719
FAX # [phone]
VOICE 1-602-884-7260
IF YOU COULD FAX ME AND CONFIRM MY ORDER, IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
THANK-YOU

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 4523
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/03/93 10:37p
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PAT:  I OWN A COMPUTER STORE IN TUCSON AZ. AND WOULD LIKE TO TRADE ANY ONE ITEM
THAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR IN TRADE FOR YOUR BB#1. IF INTERESTED YOU CAN LEAVE
MESSAGE OR FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497.
THANKS.

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From: DAVID M. WHITE                         Number: 4524
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 09/04/93 10:06a
Subj: Busty Babes v1.0r                       Refer: NONE
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SG> IF YOU CAN FAX ME A PRICE LIST ON ALL YOUR CDROMS, I WOULD

Would suggest that you get a price list from Mike Shannon also-he has about
the best prices of anyone who advertises here.


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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 4525
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/04/93  4:19p
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I AM LOOKING FOR THE FOLLOWING CD-ROM'S
1.HOT PIX #1
2.BUSTY BABES #1
3.ADAM
IF YOU HAVE ANY OF THE ABOVE PLEASE FAX ME OR LEAVE MESSAGE.
THANK-YOU
FAX # [phone]

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From: ADRIAN VERGOT                          Number: 4526
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  9:14p
Subj: Make your own CD-ROM!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM?

CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)

- Confidentiality is assured
- $99 per CD-ROM
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank

If interested, call [phone] and ask for Adrian
Auto Fax [phone]

Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:

DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING.  IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
                      Signed ______________________________
                                     Your Signature

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From: DICK HUDDLESTON                        Number: 4527
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/06/93  8:34p
Subj: Re: CDs For Sale                        Refer: NONE
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 -=> Quoting Bob Jackson to Dick Huddleston <=-

(1:106/9670)

 BJ> I left you a couple of phone messages. I'm holding all 5 for you. I'm
 BJ> out  in  Clear Lake.


Thanks! I have been labor daying it with all my kids, their spouses, and
their/my kids/grandkids, away from phone.  Will call tomorrow (Tues) and
get a money order in the mail.




... In DoubleSpace, no one can hear you scream...
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From: THOMAS NUFER                           Number: 4528
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/03/93  4:12p
Subj: Re: CDROM areas                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The Graphics net sounds nice!Count me in!

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From: THOMAS NUFER                           Number: 4529
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/03/93  8:27p
Subj: Re: U.S. Mail                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

There are pros and cons for both UPS and the Postal Service!Such as will UPS go
on strike in next couple of week and your packages get stuck in a warehouse for
a month til thats over!Or will the Postal Service find a way to stick your
package thru one of their patented rip and shred machines!

With UPS, I have had the following happen...
  1)Sent a Hard Drive,COD to Louisana.It was delivered in a weeks time.The
driver knocked and left the package at the door without collecting the money!
The person I sent it to called me and UPS refused to send a driver to pick up
his money!But they did say they would refund the money I paid to send it COD!
When I told them that I would just file a small claims court suit if I didn't
get my money the following week,it (the money) arrived the next day!
 2)I ordered an AMIGA 2000 thru the fido echoes!It included the moniter!It
arrived a laptop (3" tall)!The driver couldn't understsnd why I refused
delivery of this COD item!Luckily the person did insure it for the full value
and now has an AMIGA 4000!

But then again...
1)I have mailed Christmas cards to my sister-in-law,who lives 5 miles away and
she never recieved them.
2) and I am still waiting for the manuals,Colin Kreebel,mailed to me 1 1/2
months ago from Florida,to an AE HD floppy drive!

So stick to the one that seems to work for ya!Because I have a feeling it is
more a matter who is working that day,on whether the package gets there or not!

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From: J. ALLEN                               Number: 4530
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 09/06/93  1:02p
Subj: RE: Jem Disk claimed "Savings"          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DR>  JA>     Where's the Beef???
DR>
DR> What is it with you?  Every post you put into this conference, you're
DR>tryin to stirr sh!t up with the dealers.  Why don't you take your whiney
DR>little ass off to Free Spirit and stay there?

Guy, do you have the word Hypocrite tatooed across your forehead or what??
Your last three posts in a row here have been low quality "flames" to
dealers (Boris,Ismail,Free Spirit).  Additionally, I have never posted to
you, yet you have posted three flames to me in this echo.  Is this a sample
of how you treat you customers particularly if they have a problem or are
not satisified with the product you have sold them???

Unlike you, I support all my postings with facts and logic (Beef), while you
offer only "bull" and cuss words in valueless flames, defending your support
of misleading advertising.

You are your own worst PR ememy, only you are not quite bright enough to
figure that out.  It is quite apparent that your family tree has no
branches... Learn some ethics and maybe try to improve the intellectual
level of your postings(flames).  Most readers in this echo expect a little
more than the basic name calling,swearing, Kiddie-NET, type of postings that
you are only able to muster.

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From: DENNY VANDEMAELE                       Number: 4531
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 09/06/93  2:10p
Subj: Bible CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*** Quoting Danny Brigance to All dated 09-05-93 ***
> Can anyone give me any info about the various Bible CD's.  I am
> interested in purchasing one but am not sure which one to get.  I have
> seen the Bible Library, Bibles & Religion, Holy Bible, and Interactive
> Bible.  Any comments would be appreciated.  Thanks.....
Hello Danny,
I have the Bible Library, and although it has a lot of neat books and works on
it, it has a very hard to use interface to view those works.  Actually, I'll
sell you mine if you like.

BTW, I have tons of Bible Studies for Freq at the address in the Origin Line.
Den

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 4532
  To: MICHAEL KOKOTT                           Date: 09/07/93  5:17a
Subj: Re: Dealers WANTED !!!                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 05 Sep 93  18:06:00, I heard Michael Kokott shout to Kevin Plummer:

MK> Hello Kevin,
MK>
MK> are you looking for dealers only for the usa or for other countries too?
MK> I'm from germany and if you are interested in selling your cd's here you
MK> are welcom to send me a mail!
MK>
MK> Greetings
MK> Michael

Yes, I am interested, Please send me your Address, Or Phone, or a Fax number
to get you more information.

                             .....|<evin

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From: MIKE ZIER                              Number: 4533
  To: ARNIE GROSS                              Date: 09/05/93  8:57p
Subj: Re: Jem Disk Trade In                   Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

While eating a doughnut, Officer Arnie Gross said this to Michael Crosson:

 MC> Send us your old CD-Rom (in good condition) and $14.95 and we'll
 MC> send you Jem Disc I shareware CD-Rom collection..... The current
 MC> price without trade in is $19.95 plus S/H so this deal represents
 MC> a savings of $10.
 AG>
 AG> $19.95
 AG> -14.95
 AG> ------
 AG> $ 5.00 savings, not $10, unless you are including shipping on this
 AG> item.

It says 19.95 + Shipping - perhaps the other $5 is S/H ?

Mike


... Use subdirectories; keep your FAT thin!
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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 4534
  To: JEFF JENKINS                             Date: 09/07/93  1:47p
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Jeff Jenkins beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

JJ>Well yes, if you buy it there it will be 299.00
JJ>but if you look on this echo, you will see tha Star Vector carries it
JJ>for 97.00 I have the catalog right in front of me.
JJ>If you want to call them to confirm that is the same thing ....go ahea
JJ>It pays to shop around!

I believe you. But I have a feeling that is the upgrade package which I
have seen at or near that price.

Yup, sure does pay to look around.

Ron


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 4535
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93  7:41p
Subj: CD ROM WANTED                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for Wizardworks CICA Windows shareware cd. I'll pay about $15
plus a bit for shipping.

Ron
813-978-0527


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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 4536
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/07/93  7:44p
Subj: CD PACKAGE DEALS                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike Shannon beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

MS>          ________________________________________________________
MS>         |                                                        |
MS>         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #5: CD-ROM PACKAGE DEALS   |
MS>         |________________________________________________________|

Mike,

I'm looking for Wizardworks CICA Windows shareware cd. I'll pay about $15
plus a bit for shipping.

Ron
813-978-0527


 * WinQwk 2.0 a#435 * NO special rights for behavior!


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From: MARK SANCHEZ                           Number: 4537
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93  9:58p
Subj: Cheap CD-rom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

New Mitsumi 350ms cd-rom with controller      $185.00
  w/ World Atlas/Encyclopedia/Chessmaster     $265.00

Panasonic Double Speed Internal w/interface   $265.00
Toshiba XM3401B 200ms internal                $495.00


Other Computer hardware available

Call Lee at BCD
Tampa,Fl [phone]


                                                      Mark S.


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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4538
  To: DIANA KIRKSEY                            Date: 09/07/93  6:42p
Subj: RE: Toshiba Q's                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DK>I bought the Toshiba 34019(internal) about a month ago,and so far haven't
DK>had any problems. I got the CD-Rom,PAS16(sound card which CD-Rom can plug
DK>into) and the kit(cable's,etc.) for $549. at CD-Rom Direct.

    Thanks muchly for the info. I'm seeing about getting the Toshiba
    presently. Turns out that my new Step-Father works for a computer
    place that sells Toshibas. Didn't realize it until I mentioned
    looking for one. Looks like he may set me up with one, although
    he's also taking the opportunity to revamp my whole system in the
    process! We'll see...    :->

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4539
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/07/93  6:58p
Subj: ADULT CD FOR TRADE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>Well, I know exactly what you mean. Being a woman myself, as well as
MS>a wife, I understand this, but I've got one up on the men. I own my own
MS>CD-ROM company! Hey, and as for discs for us ladies, I still haven't
MS>found one, but Hot Hunks sounds like it might be promising. ;-)

    Really? I haven't heard of this one. Any info on what it contains?
    Know of anyone who sells it?

    When you say that you have your own company, is that sales? Or do you
    produce CDs? If sales, do you have a catalog (and info on obtaining
    same)?

MS>   Gimme a call sometime 306-789-4654, and we'll discuss the politics of
MS>men and their "adult" discs. (Which are NEVER wife-proof).

    No politics, really <grin>. I just thought I'd take the opportunity of
    someone asking to let dealers know that they might be turning off
    potential (female) customers. I'm far from being a feminist, but those
    "wife proof" descriptions kinda gripe me... I'm far less likely to buy
    from someone who describes them as such.

    At any rate, If you drop a line in the (non-sale) CDROM conference
    (what net is this?), we can discuss "politics" of the adult CDs!

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4540
  To: MICHAEL COLLIER                          Date: 09/07/93  7:04p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MC>  I think a good idea might be, ala Ms. Sorensen from up here in Canada,
MC>for the CDrom vendors in this conference, most of which are male, to
MC>graciously donate pictures of themselves au natural (and more!) for just
MC>such a compilation. I mean fair is fair don't you think...

    Well it depends upon quality and, uh... quantity!  ;->  I don't want
    to spend my hard-earned $$ on uninspiring pics.

MC>Now what would be a good name... Cute *icks: Read Only Males....

    How 'bout.... "See de' RAWm!"

    But maybe this should be moved to a general CDROM conference and not
    pursued in the FORSALE conference..  If you frequent one on this net,
    please drop me a line there and direct my attention that direction.

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4541
  To: NINO FAGAN                               Date: 09/07/93  7:06p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*>Maybe one of these days someone will come out with a good CD full of
*>adult material for us ladies. And hopefully it'll be husband-proof.
*>I'd hate for hubby to realize that I'm enjoying such things!  ;-)

NF>Good for you Heather, well said!!!!

    Thank you, thank you. Don't applaud... please throw money! <grin>
    Maybe we can get a discussion of the topic going in the (non-sale)
    CDROM conference. Drop me a line there?

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4542
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/07/93  7:30p
Subj: CD's for Women                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HK> know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females? Title and...
BJ>I'm *not* a dealer, but if you could define what you mean by "...slanted
BJ>towards females..." maybe I (and others) could suggest a few.

    Hmmm... I guess that would probably be varied by individual (female)
    preference. Actually, I enjoy the ones I've seen, but might put less
    emphasis on male climax (all over the place <g>). It would be nice
    to have more shots of male *bodies*, and not just certain body parts.
    Gee... how specific can one get in a non-age-restricted conference
    when describing such things?  :->

    Interaction, penetration, etc. are good, but I'm not all that choked
    up about "oddities" and pics of kinky stuff. Smallish BBS ads are ok,
    but the ones that take up half the screen are a bummer. And the long
    intro BBS ads in movie files are a real hassle (don't like to wait
    through them, and feel cheated that so much of the disk is taken up
    by something I have to watch over and over!). Even worse are loud,
    attention-getting noises in movie files.

    Would rather have fewer high-quality items on the disk than umpteen
    million bits of junk with A Few Good Men thrown in. Mixtures of still
    pics and movies are good since hubby likes the stills and I enjoy the
    motion. Menu interface is nice, IF it works properly (I had lots of
    trouble with CDMENU on Ecstacy Hot Pics, even when I put the files on
    hard drive instead of CD - lots of GIFs that wouldn't show, and memory
    errors viewing movie files).

    So.... Any recommendations for what's available currently, based on the
    above? Prices? Dealers?  If you care to discuss/review certain disks,
    I guess that we could take the discussion to a (non-sale) CDROM
    conference. Name the place - I'd appreciate hearing about some of
    what's out there.

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4543
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/07/93  8:20p
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC>Hot Hunks......$38.95....615-339-0235 24 hours to order.

    Thanks for the info. I just heard from someone else about this one...
    hadn't heard about it before. I just ordered 2 others, but will keep
    your message for reference when my budget recovers <g>.

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4544
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 09/07/93  8:26p
Subj: Adult Cd For Wives?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JL>I guess that trick will work on some, but certainly not all wives.  My
JL>wife has her own little tricks as well.  Sometimes her trick is just
JL>pretending not to catch on to mine. <G>

    Sometimes that's the best tactic.  ;-)

  >   know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females? Title and
  >   price, dealers?
JL>Hot Hunks is one such title.  Fair warning, though.  It is slanted for
JL>gays as well as women.  I sell Hot Hunks for $39.

    Hmmm... I appreciate the warning. Any thoughts on what percentage
    is gay? Comments on quality of images? Are there stills, movies?
    If this wouldn't be the area to "review" the disk, I'd be happy to
    hear more about it in the (non-sale) CDROM conference here on FIDO.
    Thanks muchly for the info.

- Heather
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From: JOHN ROBINSON                          Number: 4545
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/07/93  6:13p
Subj: Copyright.                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     Despite the controversy, music stores are selling used audio CDs for $7-$8
apiece.

     The only problem there seems to be with books are paperbacks with covers
torn off.  Dealers return covers to distributors for $$$$ credit.  A book, or
magazine, sold without its cover is considered "stolen property".  See the
warning on the back of the title page of any current paperback.

     Unsold hardcover books are returned and may end up remaindered on those
tables in the middle of bookstore aisles.  Some have suggested that paperbacks
and magazines of some form of disk will mean returned merchandise.  Half the
copies of your non-bigname magazine end up in the dealer's trash.


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 4546
  To: BILL ALEXANDER                           Date: 09/07/93  2:13p
Subj: Re: CDRoms for sale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> EB>  Simtel MSDOS May 1993              $15.00  630+ Megs MSDOS
>> EB>  Aminet June 1993                   $15.00  Hundreds of megs of Amiga

>> Send me these two items for $40 total ($15 apiece + $5 S&H and $5 COD) to:
>>
>> Bill Alexander
>> 509 Pine Ridge Ln.
>> Aubrey,TX 76227

Bill, they are on their way.  They went out Tue, 9-7, you should have
them no later than 9-10.

Thanks and enjoy,
Eric


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From: KAREL VITAMVAS                         Number: 4547
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/06/93  1:15a
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Michellea,

 MS> INSTOCK quanitities last! They are:

 MS>                                         Cdn$   US$
 MS>             ProPhone 1993 7-disc set      50    37

Can you give me more info on the ProPhone 1993 7-disc set at $50Cad.

What is on these discs?  Do they give the address as well as phone numbers?
Can you use the discs only for one year from the time you start to use it or a
limited number of look-ups? ( Like American Business Phone Book)

What is your total price including everything in Cdn$.

Thanks
Karel

P.s. I live in Ontario.



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From: KAREL VITAMVAS                         Number: 4548
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  1:23a
Subj: ProPhones 1993                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi all,

I would like to know what you think of ProPhones 1993 if you have it or if you
have seen it.  Does it have limits on it like American Business Phone Book
which lets you look up only 5,000 phone numbers or 12 months from the date of
installation?

Any info you cam provide wiuld be great.

Thanks,
Karel


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From: CHRIS WHITING                          Number: 4549
  To: DANIEL SALLEE                            Date: 09/06/93 12:30a
Subj: Re: Forsale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Daniel Sallee to All <=-

 DS> I have a CDR-1000 CD-rom approximatley 3 months old with Docs,
 DS> installation disk and cables forsale must sell ASAP due to upgrade.
 DS> FIrst $125.00 or best offer takes it.  Call Dan at 602-969-9204 or Net
 DS> mail me at 1:114/186.
     Have you sold it yet.  I would be interested (and will pay for
     shipping charges - of course).


... I've come to kick #$% and chew bubble gum. I'm all out of bubble gum.
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From: MARK RICHARDSON                        Number: 4550
  To: CHRIS WISE                               Date: 09/07/93  6:03p
Subj: Cdrom games                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 >    Just taking a guess that you have a Mitsumi?  The reason
 > why I guess
 > this is because the CD line has two wires switched, and they
 > have to be
 > reversed for them to work.  There is three ways to do this --
 > 1. To buy
 > the adapter for it.  2. Splice the line and switch the wires.
 > 3. You
 > will note a tab on the CD line, if you shave this flush you
 > will be able
 > to flip the connector over, and I have heard (have not tried
 > it) that
 > this will work.

  Yes I have a Mitsumi.. that should help my problem too! I will try that.
Thank you very much.

                Mark

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From: PETER BOWMAR                           Number: 4551
  To: GORD DAVIS                               Date: 09/07/93  5:48p
Subj: masking                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Gord. How does Masking work? I tried to mask out some of the Fido confs and
they keep appearing. Is it broken? By the way, the Fido action is very cool.

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4552
  To: JOHN PIMENTEL                            Date: 09/06/93  9:10p
Subj: CD CADDIES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JP>Where (other than Mike Shannon -- NOTE nothing against Mike, but I need a
  >comparison) can CD Caddies be bought and how much??

We sell caddies for $5.00 a piece and jewel cases for $.75 each, with or
without a CD-Rom purchase. Give us a call if you need anything.

Computer Works                                          Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4553
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/06/93  9:14p
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ>CD Winbox            Encyclopedia of ClipArt
  >World of Flight      World of Trains

Hi Bob.  I'll take these if still available.  Let me know if you would
rather make a trade for something new.  I'll got lots to choose from. :)

                                                        Jim...

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4554
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  9:54p
Subj: New CD-Roms                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The new CD-Rom titles are starting to roll in.  Here are a few examples:

Shareware Explorer - The best multiple disc set to be released to date!
There are 3 MS-DOS discs and 1 Windows disc.  26,000 files with less
than 1% duplication.  These discs are easy to set up with SF-Rom or
EZ-ROM using the PCBoard style file lists with dates and sizes.  File
dates are mostly 1992 and 1993, which is very impressive for a
collection this large!                                     Price $59.00

King's Quest VI "Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow" - A multimedia fantasy &
adventure game by Sierra.  A shipwrecked prince must find his way across
a series of islands in search of a princess in peril. You'll need all
your wits and imagination to overcome the gauntlet of baffling puzzles
and fantastic creatures that attempt to keep you from your goal.
Can be played under DOS or Windows.                        Price $50.00

Precision Mapping - A complete mapping program that includes
street-level maps of the entire continental United States on two CD-Rom
discs. The end-user can view, edit, print, and query map data at any
scale from the entire U.S. down to a city block. Look up addresses,
measure distances, plan out travel routes, print out laser quality maps,
clip raster images for import to other packages, create your own
customized maps of virtually any type or scale...and much more!
This is version 1.5 with improved online help.  This set also includes
the American Business Phonebook CD-Rom.                    Price $85.00

Look for the following new shareware titles coming soon:

Software Vault Gold
PC Sig Volume 13
Shareware Studio III
Phoenix 4
Pier 3

Computer Works CD-Rom Sales!          Call for our latest catalog or
[phone] Voice                  log on and download catalog.zip.
[phone] BBS                    Online Credit Card & COD Orders

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4555
  To: BILL ALEXANDER                           Date: 09/08/93  2:48a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>> )))))))  BRAND NEW RELEASE "BUSTY BABES III" (((((((((

BO>> NOW IN STOCK  BUSTY BABES III ..... The best adult disc,
BO>> period. Featuring thousands of sizzling pictures of the
BO>> bustiest babes in North America including  Canadian gals
BO>> who bare all! Also includes the SUPER new generation image
BO>> viewer/manager SHOWOFF, and it's BBS Ready.

BO>>                      PRICE - $25.00

BO>> To ORDER, call 800-243-0517 Tech/Questions 216-225-3263

BO>> )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))((((((((((((((((((((((((((


>>    Boris,

>>    If you deliver COD I will call your order line listed above.

>>    I don't use credit cards (couldn't trust the wife or myself
>>    with one).

>>    Thanks


Not a problem Bill, you want we should brown bag it for you too...grin!

Give us a call and we'll be happy to help you in anyway we can.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4556
  To: MARK ELSON                               Date: 09/08/93  2:48a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes II                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Boris,

>>    Are you going to carry the Busty Babes II??? If so and they
>>    are 25.00 please send me one when they are released...you
>>    should have my info on hand...if not let me know...

We've handled Lee's cd's so long, it would be a crime not to Mark!

As for price, until we get our first copy in hand, we'll hold off
posting prices as they change from one week to the next. But I can
assure you, it will be close.

Chat with you soon....watch for our post !

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4557
  To: BRYNE BOTTOMS                            Date: 09/08/93  2:48a
Subj: Re: Canadian sales                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    * In a message originally to Ron Richmond, Boris Osadciw said:
BO->>>>    To ALL.
BO->>>>          I had ordered Busty Babes vol.2 from Dave and it was
BO->>>>       held at the border. The P.O. would not return it to Dave
BO->>>>       and when I called Fed.Ex they estimated $24 to $36 Can.
BO->>>>       depending on actual weight,to send it back. Estimated only,
BO->>>>       because I cannot get the disk to them from Customs.and they
BO->>>>       would have to pick it up at the P.O. I chose to abandon the
BO->>>>       disk, as this would be almost as much as the original cost.
BO->>>>       Customs would not tell me which disks would be stopped.
BO->>>>       Canadians would be well advised to order from Vince and
BO->>>>       Michellea Sorensen. Ron.

BO->>We have shipped hundreds of adult cd's to Canada and never
BO->>had a problem
BO->>with customes. In fact, we just shipped a major order to
BO->>Ontario and the
BO->>customer received it with ease and NO CUSTOM FEE's.

BO->>I guess it's all in the way you ship your products and or
BO->>handle the
BO->>matterial.

BO->>On another note, customes will ship the package back if it
BO->>is so stated
BO->>on the package. Even if it is not allowed to enter the
BO->>country, it will be
BO->>returned to the shipper at his/her expense. This again is
BO->>only true if the
BO->>shipper has stated this on the package.

BO->>Just a few cents worth......

BO->>Boris Osadciw

>>    I got my Adult CD's from the U.S yesterday with no problem at
>>    all and also no customs fees were added either.

Glad to hear it and hopefully we'll be hearing from you again real soon!

Boris Osadciw

... I married the Mail Lady!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4558
  To: RON RICHMOND                             Date: 09/08/93  2:48a
Subj: Re: canadian sales                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>>We have shipped hundreds of adult cd's to Canada and never had a problem
BO>>with customes. In fact, we just shipped a major order to Ontario and the
BO>>customer received it with ease and NO CUSTOM FEE's.

>>    Thanks for your interest Boris, I purchased my ROM Drive from
>>    you and am still very satisfied with the purchase,and your
>>    follow up. ===

Glad to hear it !! Never let it be said, we try to sell you something you
don't want....grin -:)

You'll be even more please when you see our BRAND NEW CATALOG ! To put it
lightly....it's AWSOME and so are the savings and FREE BEES !!

Watch your mail box soon....if you don't get yours soon, drop us a note
and YELL for a copy or you'll miss out on a lot of specials.

Chat with you soon.....

Boris Osadciw

... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4559
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/08/93  2:48a
Subj: DR.CD Collection                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

)))))))))))))))))))))) H O T  N E W  C D ' S ((((((((((((((((((((((

DR. MUSIC - Music Editors, MOD, MIDI, ROL, SND, VOC, WAV and more!
DR. SHAREWARE - 615 megs of shareware programs and utilities!
DR. GAMES - 600+ megs of Adventure, Arcade, Card, Sports and more!
DR. WINDOWS - 3,440 files of window programs and utilities!
        All BBS READY !! - BUY 5 AND GET THE 6TH ONE FREE !!
               Price - $55.00 for all 4 or $20.00ec
                        DEALERS WELCOME
ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX - 216-225-6759


Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4560
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/08/93  2:49a
Subj: Hot CD's                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

$$$$$$$ R E D  H O T  C D' S  A T  R E D  H O T  P R I C E S $$$$$$$
 CD POWERBOX/WINDOWS - $20         COMPTONS ENCYC UPGRADE   - $95.
 GAME OR SOUNDWARE   - $25.        ALL CHESTNUT TITLES      - $10.
 HACKER CHRONICAL    - $18.        JOKES/PRANKS - 1001 UTIL - $10.
 NIGHT OWL 9.0       - $25.        KINGS QUEST VI           - $47.
 SO-MUCH-SHAREWARE 3 - $29.        TOOLWORKS ENCYC DOS/WIN  - $49.
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER  - $59.        9000 SOUNDS              - $25.
 SOFTWARE VAULT 2    - $20.        5 STAR PREM DOS/WIN      - $29.
 DR.CD COLLECTION - 4 CD'S - $55.  PC KARAOKE W/MICROPHONE  - $89.
 800-243-0517 (ORDERS ONLY) - TECH 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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From: SCOTT MCMILLAN @ 913/8                 Number: 4561
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93 10:38a
Subj: Low, Low cd prices                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sole Source Systems
8128-C Mercury Point
San Diego, CA 92111
Tel: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
BBS: 619-467-0666

                                                      September 6, 1993


                                       Special Pricing

Minimum order must exceed $100, prepaid only - NO COD's, FOB San Diego
California. Prices good for stock on hand. Offer expires September 31,
1993.
501 Sound Waves (SN)  . . . . . . . . . . . $21
Adventures of Willie Beamish (GA). . . . . .$15
Aesop's Fables . . .  . . . . . .  . . . . .$29
All American Multimedia (GR) . . . . . . .  $18
Amazing Universe (ED) .. . . . . . . . . . .$49
America's Premier Shareware 1993 (SW). . . .$19
Amiga Shareware (SW) . . . . . . . . . . . .$11
Annabel's Dream of Ancient Egypt (ED) . .   $49
Animation Fantasies (Adult)  . . . . . . . .$19
                     (Too Many To List Here !!!!, freq the file
"prices.txt" for the rest) Caddies

We have the standard sony type caddies - all japanese construction,
which is better - yet more expensive than the american product.  For
resellers, we have the following prices:
Japanese "Sony" type caddies
Qty 1-99 $4.79 each
Qty 100+ $4.00 each
Qty 300+ $3.80 each

We also have the new swiss designed and manufactured "TriCaddy", this
revolutionary new product has no moving parts.  It is completely made of
plastic and it is designed with the User who stores his CD's in their
caddies permanently. The user can remove his jewel case insert and place
it in the front of the Caddy.
                                Swiss "TriCaddy" type caddies
                                     Qty 1-49 $4.59 each
Qty 50+  $4.00 each
Qty 100+ $3.65 each
Call for large Qty price!

CD Rom Drives (Special Pricing, limited to stock on hand)

Hitachi Internal CD Rom Drive 800 Ms., Prop. Control.    $135
NEC Intersect External SCSI (With Packing - Complete).   $235
Panasonic SCSI Internal 500 Ms., 90 day swapout warranty w/o controller.
. . . . . . . $250
Panasonic SCSI External 500 Ms., 90 day swapout
warranty w/o controller. . . . . . . . $300

Controller for Panasonic SCSI Drive with Cable  . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . .$35

              ACT NOW!!! DON'T WAIT - THESE DEALS WON'T LAST!!!

For the rest of our awesome deals: freq prices.txt at [phone].

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From: MIKE FINK                              Number: 4562
  To: BILL ALEXANDER                           Date: 09/07/93  9:51p
Subj: Re: BB cd rom                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BA@>SK> Hey guys...does the Busty Babes CD show any "PINK"???
BA@>SK> Inquiring minds want to know...Id be interested if is showed some PINK!
BA@>Oh No!! Must be a YOUNG one to ask such a question!!

        Or maybe he just does not want to curse.  However, I would have
to agree!

        Sonic

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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 4563
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/06/93  7:50a
Subj: Lost Discs...???                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris, I thought I would let you know here, rather then calling
your 800 number...(every little bit counts...).

I have never recieved the original order I placed with you...

I told you I would call if it had not come by saturday.

Needless to say...It has not come.  I'm sorry to say.

Maybe next time...


*****         *****
 **** ICHARD   **** UNTON    Pax...
** **         *****

 * DeLuxe2/386 1.25 #3885 * Richard Bunton...311 Grand...Belton, Mo.
64012-1432
                            Telephone [phone]
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From: JOHN RUIZ                              Number: 4564
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 09/06/93  4:57p
Subj: Panasonic 562b                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

ISMAIL, My friend, I sent you a request via the multi-media conference
last week about if you will be attending the Kent Computer swap meet on
the 11th Sept 1993.  Will you have the Panasonic 562b CD-ROM available
without the control card or with the control card at the show???  Next
question what will be the price at the show for the 562b cd-rom drive??
           Thank You.....   John Ruiz

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From: YVES CHARIER                           Number: 4565
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/01/93  5:21p
Subj: Tempra access Photo CD Imaging software for sale/xchange  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello,

Following a mistake of my favorite French CD-ROM distributor (DP TOOL
Club), I have an extra copy Tempra Access CD-ROM for sale or xchange.

If you're interested in this good CD-ROM, please make your offer by
replying to this message, or private Netmail, or fax to +33-1-4001-
0493 or phone to [phone].

Looking forward to hearing from you.

- Yves
(from Paris XIIth, France)


... Wolves are back in France!

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From: CHIP MORROW                            Number: 4566
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/07/93  8:11p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

PR> Have 7th Guest for sale or trade, I'm looking for memory simms, or
PR> will sell for $40.OBO

I just happen to be looking for a copy of 7th Guest *WITH* the video
showing how it was made.  If this is what you have, I'm interested.

      Chip Morrow - voice 614-366-2296 evenings/weekends (Ohio)
                    netmail 1:226/1420


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From: CHIP MORROW                            Number: 4567
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93  8:32p
Subj: 7th Guest w/video wanted                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

The other day we were in the local software store looking over a copy
of 7th Guest (which they wanted a whole $70 (!!) for).

The curiosity is getting the best of us, and my wife is bugging me to
see the video on how this game was made, so I am ready to spend a few
dollars for a copy of the thing, but only the one WITH the video.

So far I have seen Mike Shannon offering new copies of this CD *WITHOUT*
video for $39 in this echo, but have seen very little else advertised
here lately that doesn't say simply "7th Guest".

The ideal situation would be to find someone with a used copy of both
the game and the video who is finished with it and no longer wants them.
Next choice would be to find out what the "with video" version can be
had for NEW through this echo.  My ideal price for a used copy is $35.
Whatcha got?

    Chip Morrow - netmail 1:226/1420 voice 614-366-2296 evenings (Ohio)


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From: ERIC ENGELMANN                         Number: 4568
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93 11:06p
Subj: Technical Shareware on CD-ROM           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 Here's a brief view of technical software on recent CD-ROMs.
 EMS's products cost more, but you can see they ARE different.
 EMS Professional Shareware - voice:301-924-3594 Fax:[phone]
 Free brochure/catalog will tell you more.

                EMS   SMS3  Pier2  SS2  NOwl9 Win93 SV2
 Access           175
 Assembler        391                      17          15
 C/C++            987    98         288               216
 AutoCAD          820          51    45    30          34
 Xbase           2983          53    83    82         502
 Netware          801    58          48    42   172
 ObjectVision      91
 OS/2             302
 Paradox          490
 Sci/Eng          113          53          38    25    85
 SmallBusiness    238
 Spreadsheet      325          11    55    15    50    27
 TrueType         752   218   112               749
 TurboPascal      680    67         264    30         169
 VBasic Windows   425    59                     130
 VBDOS/QB/PDS     224               130
 Windows Utils    705                          Mixed

 EMS Professional Shareware, 7'93 (Oct. edition ships in three weeks)
 SMS3 - So Much Shareware #3
 SS2 - Shareware Studio #2
 NOwl9 - NightOwl #9
 Win93 - Windows 1993
 SV2 - Software Vault #2
** I've done my best to compare apples to apples, but all directories don't
compare neatly. Your milage may vary.
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From: CHARLIE PARKER                         Number: 4569
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/08/93  9:14a
Subj: Mad Dog McCree                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

      Hey Everyone I have just purchased Mad Dog McCree which is a
American Laser Game in the Arcade. If you like the arcade version then you
need to purchase this one. It is perfectly like the original and plays very
well. There is a slight prob with my SB16 ASP card but they arre making a fix
for it(will be out next month).    Thankx for listening

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From: MARK LONG                              Number: 4570
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/06/93  6:23p
Subj: FCC LICENSE CD                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a CDROM that has the FCC commercial licenses listed on it.
I need to have search capablilty based on city and frequency.  Coverage needs
to be in the business band, GMRS, and government.
Respond with price and ordering info if you have one.
Thanks..
ML.


... Toner refills-Canon\HP\Sharp\Xerox\many more 39.99exch.  [phone]
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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 4571
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/07/93 11:20a
Subj: BBSCON                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LN>A public area like this is monitored by authorities, and its not that I am
LN>skirting the issue, it's that I am not comfortable talking about the Adult C
LN>industry in this echo--

Finally!!!!!!!!!!  The truth is brought out!  And everyone was flaming
me for trying to tone down the topic over in CDROM!!!!!!!!!!!


LN>You would should consult a first ammendment attorney in your area for these
LN>answers--I would be speaking out of tongue to say what I feel your State wil
LN>tolerate.

Another good point.


LN>WOuld love to talk to you but not in this echo or others--Netmail be 3618/23
LN>and I will be a little more relaxed about the issue in which you address.


Thanks Lee, for bringing up these topics.

Bob Hall
moderator of the Other CDROM Echo :-)

1-800-550-3503
if you want to chat.

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4572
  To: ED ROGOFF                                Date: 09/08/93 10:57a
Subj: CDS FOR SALE                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

All that's left is Ham Radio and I've put up a new post for it. CALL if  you're
interested. Thanks.
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4573
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/08/93 11:26a
Subj: PHONE CDS                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike:

If I needed to find the address/phone of all businesses in a particular
area code, would one on those phone set/thing CDs do the job?
Recommendations?
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4574
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 09/08/93 11:22a
Subj: REVIEW CD                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Yo, Ismail:

If you sent me a CD for review, I haven't received it as of Sept. 8. Not
complaining, just thought you'd want to know in case it's lost.  Don't
want you thinking I didn't hold up my end (which, by the way, now
requires both hands!).
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From: DAVID HUTTON                           Number: 4575
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/05/93 11:46p
Subj: BSR CD-ROM Drive Wanted                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a couple of the BSR CD-ROM drives.  The ones I want are
the ones that DAK sold a year or so ago.  They have SONY CDU-6201-10 on
the bottom.  I want to add a couple to a BBS.  Call my BBS at
307-637-5930 or leave me a message here.

               David


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From: WAYNE ROZNAK                           Number: 4576
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93 10:36p
Subj: Wanted Phillips CM212 Caddies           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Looking for caddies for a Phillips CM212.

Best Regards
Wayne Roznak


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From: WAYNE ROZNAK                           Number: 4577
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/07/93 10:44p
Subj: CD CADDIES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Do you carry the caddy for the Phillips CM212 drives if so how much.
And if you don't do you know who does.

Thanks
Wayne Roznak
305-824-3900 Work
305-354-8670 Home after 5pm

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4578
  To: CHRIS JOHNSON                            Date: 09/07/93 11:43p
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Chris!

06 Sep 93, Chris Johnson writes to Pat Rickerson:


 PR>> Hello Chris!

 PR>> Have 7th Guest for sale or trade, I'm looking for
 PR>> memory simms, or will sell for $40.OBO


 CJ>         my BO is 35.. YOU ship?

 CJ>                 Chris Johnson

Send your check whene I get it I'll send it off.
411 Ninth St. NAS Corpus Christi,Tx 78418

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4579
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 09/08/93  6:55a
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Steve!

03 Sep 93, Steve Greeno writes to Pat Rickerson:

 SG> PAT:  I OWN A COMPUTER STORE IN TUCSON AZ. AND WOULD LIKE TO TRADE ANY
ONE
 SG> ITEM THAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR IN TRADE FOR YOUR BB#1. IF INTERESTED YOU
CAN
 SG> LEAVE MESSAGE OR FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497. THANKS.

Well I am ready to trade! Let me know where to send it and what you offer and
I'll get it in the mail to you! In real need of a 386Dx40 and 2 meg of simms.
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4580
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 09/08/93  6:59a
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Steve!

04 Sep 93, Steve Greeno writes to All:

 SG> I AM LOOKING FOR THE FOLLOWING CD-ROM'S
 SG> 1.HOT PIX #1
 SG> 2.BUSTY BABES #1
 SG> 3.ADAM
 SG> IF YOU HAVE ANY OF THE ABOVE PLEASE FAX ME OR LEAVE MESSAGE.
 SG> THANK-YOU
 SG> FAX # [phone]

I still have mine, (BB#1) if you have anything to trade, thought I had it
traded a couple if times but it didn't work out.
Pat

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4581
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/08/93  1:12a
Subj: CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #4:  CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!   |
         |________________________________________________________|

            All sales are final - Sale limited to stock on hand!

                              GENERAL TITLES
                              --------------
Q & A 4.0...........$34   Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15   House of Games......$20
Compton's Interact..$95   US Wars: Korea......$29   US Wars: Des. Storm.$29
US Wars: Vietnam....$29   Super CD 1..........$14   Guinness Disc 92....$16
Amiga AB-20.........$13   Conan the Cimmerian.$27   Game Pack 2.........$22
Original S/W 1993...$10   Phoenix 3.0.........$12   Jedi Collection.....$39
Lion's Share........$20   Clipart Galore......$25   Reel Clips..........$35
Windoware...........$10   Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$22   Ham Radio 3.0.......$10
Top 2000 Shareware..$18   Software Vault 1....$17   Window Master.......$17
Return to the Moon..$26   Find-It Webster.....$38   Great Wonders.......$32

                     ADULT TITLES (Must state age 21+)
                     ---------------------------------
Storm 2.............$19   PC-PIX 1............$25   PC-PIX 2............$25
PC-PIX 3............$25   Seventh Heaven......$25   Seedy 6-Pak........$119
My First Time.......$35   Erotic Encounters...$29   Private Collection..$29

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4582
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/08/93  1:12a
Subj: NEW CD 4-PAK!                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            __________________________________     _____________
           |                                  |   |             |
           | Title:  SHAREWARE EXPLORER 4-PAK |   | Price:  $54 |
           |__________________________________|   |_____________|

     This great 4-volume shareware CD set is brought to you by the same
     folks who did the 5-Star Premium series, and is every bit as well-
     organized and up-to-date as the 5-Star CD's were.  Are you tired of
     the old, poorly organized shareware CD sets?  You won't be
     disappointed with Shareware Explorer - we guarantee it!

     * Over 26,000 total files (1992/1993)
     * Less than 1% duplication between CD's.
     * 3 volumes are DOS, and 1 is Windows shareware (7000 files)
     * BBS-ready with PC-Board and FILES.BBS file listings.
     * EZ-Access menu program.

                    >> IN STOCK FOR IMMEDIATE DELIVERY! <<

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32 14.4)......509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: DOUG SNELL                             Number: 4583
  To: JIM LAMBERT                              Date: 09/08/93  9:29a
Subj: Busty babes #1                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  >What make BB #1 so valuable?

 > It has become somewhat of a collector's item since
 > it's content resulted
 > in a court case, and subsequent releases were "cleaned
 > up" of the
 > material in question.  Lee Noga can give you more
 > details if she sees
 > fit. <smile>

 >
 >  Jim...
Thanks. At a local computer show they had lots of copies of vol 1 but methinks
it probably was the cleaned up version.
Guess I'll have to take a close look at them next time.

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From: MARK ELSON                             Number: 4584
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/08/93  8:50p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes II                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> We've handled Lee's cd's so long, it would be a crime not to Mark!
->
-> As for price, until we get our first copy in hand, we'll hold off
-> posting prices as they change from one week to the next. But I can
-> assure you, it will be close.
->
-> Chat with you soon....watch for our post !

Boris,

Go ahead and send it to me COD.....The Address is below...but you should
have it....

The Blues Cafe
Mark Elson
280 World Trade Center
Dallas, Tx  75258

would like to get it as soon as possible.....

Thanks
Mark


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From: MARC KULAK                             Number: 4585
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/08/93  5:34p
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Bob!

Friday September 03 1993, Bob Jackson writes to All:

 BJ> SDN-1 Plus
 BJ> Mega Win/OS2
 BJ> Mega A/V
 BJ> Mega ROM 1
 BJ> Mega ROM 2

I am Interested in these Cds, Just I live in Canada.. How much for you to ship
to me?? And how do I pay etc.

        Marc

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From: MARC KULAK                             Number: 4586
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 09/08/93  5:39p
Subj: -=- Monthly Catalog -=-                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Michael!

Saturday September 04 1993, Ronald Leon writes to Michael Richard Hansen:

 RL> Michael Richard Hansen beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

 MR>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 MR>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 MR>> =-=   MONTHLY CATALOG OFFER   =-=
 MR>> =-= If you are interested in

I would like one..

My address is 290 Binns Ave,
              Newmarket, On
              L3X 1T6
              Canada

Marc

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4587
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/08/93  4:46p
Subj: Deal?                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

No package yet as of 9/8 per our arrangement. Problems??

... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.
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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 4588
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/05/93  3:36p
Subj: Cd-roms                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> We've got some great deals on some '93 CD-ROMs... these are
-> Overstock Liquidations at, near, or below cost while current
-> INSTOCK quanitities last! They are:

->           ProPhone 1993 7-disc set      50    37

 Michellea,
       I am interested in this set,  do you ship COD, and if so
   what would be the total price to GA.  If so, I'll call you voice
   with the order...
                        Todd

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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 4589
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/08/93 11:50a
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Mike,

 > CD's and hardware, I would think that any pro/con discussion over the
 > shipping services we all depend on to receive said merchandise would be
 > not only relevant, but possibly of some value to the readers.

          Absolutely agreed.  Now WHERE is my order?  I placed an order with
Boris (crash mail), Doug (on the BBS) and you (NetMail).  So far Boris's order
has arrived, albiet slightly damaged but we're working on that, but nothing
from you or Doug!

Sideline:  I wouldn't personally trust UPS with ANYTHING!  Bad experiences but,
as you say, whatever turns you on.  My problem is that I live DEEP in the
countryside and they don't like to come out here as it's very expensive for
them (100Kms round trip).  What they try to do is simply put the package in the
SnailMail once it arrives in the country or ask me to collect it from their
office.  Now THAT's service?


                                                   Cheers,

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From: DANNY BRIGANCE                         Number: 4590
  To: DENNY VANDEMAELE                         Date: 09/08/93  6:36p
Subj: Bible CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Denny!

Monday September 06 1993, Denny Vandemaele writes to Danny Brigance:

 DV> Hello Danny,
 DV> I have the Bible Library, and although it has a lot of neat books and
 DV> works on it, it has a very hard to use interface to view those works.
 DV> Actually, I'll sell you mine if you like.

Ok, will you take $10.00 plus shipping.  Let me know.  Send me your number or
whatever so we can work out the details.

Danny

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4591
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/08/93  7:20p
Subj: Exchange CD Received?                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mike, I sent a CD for exchange a week or so ago. Did you receive it?

- Heather
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From: RICHARD BUNTON                         Number: 4592
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/07/93  4:18p
Subj: Wanted, comptons encyclop               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*******  Original Msg. From: Mike Shannon  To: Richard Bunton  *******

>>**** Richard Bunton.....
  *
  * Ronald, I just ordered this disc from Boris...I asked him
  * specifically if this was an, "UPDATE", Since he used this word in
  * his ad"...Or if it was the COMPLETE Encyclopedia...He told me it
  * was the complete Encyclopedia. (Price 95.00 Dollars).
>>*****************************************************************************

>>**** Mike Shannon.....
  *
MS* The easy way to tell the upgrade version from the "retail" version
MS* is the big "$149" price tag on the front of the box.  If yours has
MS* this tag, it is the UPGRADE, not the full retail version which is
MS* much more costly.
>>*****************************************************************************

Mike, Thank you for the reply...However, It still does not answer
my question to my saatisfattion.

Is the "Update", a "Complete Encyclopedia".???

If not...What is it.???

It is beginning to sound more and more like a marketing ripoff to me.

I am already committed to buying it...I would just like to know what
I am getting. I have been told by two "sellers" of CD's that it is
a "COMPLETE" Encyclopedia. Were they lying....Or what.???

Again, Thanks a MEG for the reply.

If I don't get any satisfaction from the people I just ordered from...
(I don't want to mention any names because they seem to be trying),
You may be getting a call from me by the end of the week...!!!

*****         *****
 **** ICHARD   **** UNTON    Pax...
** **         *****

 * DeLuxe2/386 1.25 #3885 * The meaning of politics...."Poly" means "Many"...
                            "Tics" means "Blood Sucking Parasites"...Nuff
said!!
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From: BEN NATION                             Number: 4593
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/08/93  5:22p
Subj: Software Toolworks Encyclopedi          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

FOR SALE:
1- Software Toolworks 21 Vol. Multimedia Encyclopedia (Windows) Version 1.5 $50
plus s&h, call 904-779-7994 ONLY as I don't read this echo regularly.
* SPITFIRE v3.3

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 4594
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/08/93  8:31a
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sorry,  Just got a new 486DX/33 MOtherBoard and can't really afford it right
now,   but in a month I'll send for it.

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From: ERIC ESKAM                             Number: 4595
  To: KEVIN MCDERMOTT                          Date: 09/08/93  9:00p
Subj: The 7th Guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

KM> Would anyone be willing to sell their used copy of T7G for $30?
KM>(CompUSA's price is REALLY good, but I just don't have the money :)).
KM>           Kevin

Well, I don't know what part of the country you are in, but out west here (Las
Vegas, NV) there is a wherehouse store by the name of COSTCO - they have The
7th
Guest for $44, shrinkwrapped.

Eric
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From: BOB BARNARD                            Number: 4596
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93 11:14p
Subj: Winword cd-rom wanted                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Am interested in buying a CD-Rom with Word for Windows and the MS Bookshelf
programs.

Regards

Bob Barnard

nobull![e-mail]

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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 4597
  To: DAVID BURKE                              Date: 09/07/93  1:23p
Subj: GIVE ME A BREAK...                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>But the type of CDROM peddled most in this echo has
>sunk to levels considered vile and against the law in most states.
>...
>-=- God, created Adam & Eve not Adam & Steve...

Not true, but given your other comments, your bigoted Religeous
opinions mascarading as "morality" will NOT be missed.


 * SLMR 2.1a * When guns are outlawed, how will we shoot Liberals?

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From: MIKE MUNNELLY                          Number: 4598
  To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                       Date: 09/08/93  7:00p
Subj: Great Value & Service                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 MS>
 MS>                6 Armstrong Bay * Regina, Sk. S4N 4G7
 MS>                306-789-4654 Voice * 306-789-8690 Fax
 MS>                     VISA/MC/MO/Cheque Accepted
 MS>
 MS>            New titles weekly! Call for current specials!

Could you send me a catalog of your titles?

My address is

Box 21, Site B
Verona, Ontario
K0H 2W0

Thanks

Mike Munnelly
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4599
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/08/93  6:29p
Subj: Re: BBSCon                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <09-05-93 22:28> Doug Carpenter wrote:

DC>> You could speak about Oklahoma for sure since they just busted
DC>> Mid-America Digital Publishing (author of the Magnum CDS) for having
DC>> adult material on his BBS I believe it was.....will be interesting
DC>> since they are saying his rights were blatantly violated....

I spent 5 days out there with Tony and got to know him. A "shame" hardly begins
to describe the loss this man has sustained. 'Bout all I am comfortable
speaking about in this forum about this case.

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: DAVID HEYDRICK                         Number: 4600
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/08/93  3:27p
Subj: CD for sale or trade                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have Microsoft Office 3.0 for sale or trade, complete except for the
reg. card.

Asking $95

or trade for any three of:  Storm I, GBL, PC-Pix 2, Hot Pix 3,
                            Pier 2, Electronic Home Library,
                            Kings Quest VI, Ecstasy Hot Pics,
                            or Manpower.

... C**a**m**o**f**l***a**u**g**e*****T**a**g**l*i**n**e*
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From: MIKE COURINGTON                        Number: 4601
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/07/93  1:18p
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hey, do you think you could send me a catalog or a price list for your CD's?
My Address is
         450 S. Scott St.
         Adrian, MI 49221
I'd really like to take a larger look at what you've got to offer!
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From: MARTIN YEE                             Number: 4602
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 09/07/93 11:50p
Subj: Seventh guest                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MRH>GOT A COPY OF THE SEVENTH GUEST FOR TRADE. Hi Mike,
   I sent out StarControl 2 Fri. Sept 3 the day you called. You should
   have received it by now. I sent it USPS 2nd air. I was in a hurry to
   get the package out to you - (explains the funny shipping box). Hope
   to receive 7th Guest from you soon. Thanks!

Martin Yee ph: 415 923-9893 ps. my daughter saids Hi <G>. fyi. also
caught your message looking for Mantis on CDROM, there have been alot of
negative remarks on this game, from what I've read in the Game conferences.
But if you really interested, I've seen dealers in my area selling it for
around $23. bucks.

---
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From: KIRK REEVES                            Number: 4603
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/08/93 11:41p
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DS> HI there, do you have 7th Guess, and how much is it?

 DC> That would be 7th Guest.  We have it in stock at $39.
 DC> Call 615-339-0235 24 hours to order.


I am very interested in getting this. Please hold a copy
for me.  I don't have a credit card so can you give me an
address to ship payment.  Thank you.

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From: KIRK REEVES                            Number: 4604
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/08/93 11:43p
Subj: Adult Cd-rom Disk 4Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 TS> old. It contains over
 TS> 600+ megs of ADult files. This Disk was Banned in
 TS> Japan. I have used it
 DC>
 DC> Storm III and all the other 80+ ADULT cd titles are
 DC> banned in Japan.  They have strict customs regulations
 DC> against pornography of any sort.  They even ban a lot
 DC> of normal art pictures.


That is really surprising to me!  I an interested in Japanese
Anime and seen some of the adult material.  It goes a lot
further in some areas than american material.

Staying on the echo

I am interested in getting the CD-Rom Asian Ladies
Also if anybody knows of any CD-ROM that features
Orientals, or Animation of any kind, please let me know
and the cost of the disk and where to mail payment.

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From: BRYAN BENNETT                          Number: 4605
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/07/93  5:06p
Subj: wanted CD-ROm                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a new/good condition CD-ROM.  I am willing to purchase,
but would rather trade.  Call me for details of purchase/trade.
206-254-4625.


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From: REBEL                                  Number: 4606
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/09/93  4:45a
Subj: Mitsuma                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

@ORIGIN :Southern Pride BBS 1:151/151                                N I have a
Internal Mitsuma CD-Rom player for sale its approx 8 months old All
manuals,card and drivers included in original box currently being used on the
BBS so if you are interested you can see it work. Asking 125.00 if interested
please reply here or send Netmail to Eddie at 1:151/151 Thanks Eddie Southern
Pride BBS.


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From: LEE WINSOR                             Number: 4607
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/02/93  2:38p
Subj: Shareware Explorer - CD-R               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

@SUBJECT:Shareware Explorer - CD-ROM                                N

     S H A R E W A R E   E X P L O R E R  -  4   V O L U M E   S E T

                        1 September, 1993

    New Frontiers CD-ROMS, of New Hartford, CT announces the release of
    their new "Shareware Explorer" 4 disc Shareware Collection on
    CD-ROM.  This CD-ROM disc collection contains over 26,000 archived
    files and nearly 2.4 gigabytes of compressed shareware and public
    domain software for the Microsoft Windows, OS/2, and DOS
    environments.  Choose among thousands of utilities to improve the
    performance and productivity of your daily tasks.

    For the Windows enthusiast, one of the four discs has 7,000 Windows
    files including thousands of ICONS and wallpaper bitmaps; nearly
    1,200 fonts, including ATM, Postscript, and Truetype variations to
    add to your applications.  Almost 1000 games, amusements, and sound
    files are available for family leisure times.  Windows Word
    processing macros and add-ons; Communications programs and tools;
    Source code and tools for programming in Actor, C, Toolbook, Visual
    Basic, Turbo Pascal, and many others rounds out the vast selection
    in this Windows CD-ROM library.  PCBoard and files.bbs files are
    included for BBS operators.  All files are fully virus tested.

    For the DOS enthusiast, there are nearly 19,000 shareware files on
    the 3 DOS related CD-ROMS.  Organized into 70 different topical
    areas including:  Music, Business, Hobbies, Personal & Business
    Finance, Text & Word Processing, Ham Radio, Cooking, health &
    Fitness, Desktop Publishing, Database, Games, and thousands of other
    applications and Utilities.  Large collection of Source/Tools for C,
    BASIC, PASCAL, and others.  DOS Volume #1 is the best of 90/91 and
    has 8,500 files; DOS Volume #2 is all 1992 files and a few early 93;
    DOS Volume #3 is mostly 1993, with a few late 1992 additions to the
    collection.  No files in this collection are older than 1990.


    This four volume CD-ROM collection is designed for the serious DOS
    and Windows enthusiast as well as the novice user.  There are no GIF
    file, Unprotects, or Game cheats used to fill out space on our
    products.  We provide only carefully selected Business,
    Professional, and Technical files, along with a smattering of
    Personal Development and Family related files for your enjoyment.
    There are less than 1% duplicates or older versions of programs
    across all 4 CD-ROM volumes.

    An easy to use access program allows for easy viewing of our
    extensive encyclopedia of file descriptions.  Key words search
    capabilities improve your ability to quickly locate topics of
    interest.  Once a file description is located, the corresponding
    archive file can be easily viewed and the documentation read without
    leaving the current screen.  It may then be copied or unarchived
    into a temporary work space on your hard drive for later
    installation or testing.  Those of you who have fumbled with other
    CD-ROM access software will find this one as easy as 'ABC'.
    Included on the CD-ROM are pre-formatted print files in Alphabetic
    and Date sorted order, as well as our handy reference booklet which
    may be printed out and added to your own library.

     S H A R E W A R E   E X P L O R E R  -  4   V O L U M E   S E T

         The hottest selling CD-ROM at this years ONE BBSCON!

         John Dvorak, of PC magazine picked one up and said:

         "Wow, I've never seen a four pack CD-ROM like this
          before...  This is nice!"


    Available through your favorite CD-ROM dealer at competitive prices.

    Contact:  The MARKETplace 1-800-289-1ROM for dealer information.

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4608
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/08/93 11:57p
Subj: BBSCon                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

LN>      It's faster to type the forbidden list:
LN>         a) All alabama, Phoenix AZ, North Florida, Atlanta GA
LN>            Various districts in IN, All Mississippi, All NC
LN>            Buffalo NY, All OK, Various cities in PA, Memphis TN
LN>            Dallas TX, All UT, All VA, Various districts in WI

Lee,

I missed the first part of this.  What is the significance of these
cities/regions?

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4609
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/08/93 11:58p
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD'S                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

          ________________________________________________________
         |                                                        |
         |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #2:  TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES   |
         |________________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

>PHOENIX 4.0 * Finally - An update to 3! Very clean CD with fresh files.$28
 PRECISION MAPPING 1.5 * Newest release! Detailed street-level map......$79
>SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD * Totally new shareware w/ no dupes to Vault 2!....$29
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
 SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$37

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4610
  To: CHIP MORROW                              Date: 09/09/93  7:10a
Subj: 7th Guest                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Chip!

07 Sep 93, Chip Morrow writes to Pat Rickerson:


 PR>> Have 7th Guest for sale or trade, I'm looking for memory simms, or
 PR>> will sell for $40.OBO

 CM> I just happen to be looking for a copy of 7th Guest *WITH* the video
 CM> showing how it was made.  If this is what you have, I'm interested.

 CM>       Chip Morrow - voice 614-366-2296 evenings/weekends (Ohio)
 CM>                     netmail 1:226/1420


Yes it comes with the Viedo, the CD and everything in it is almost new all we
did was open the package, couldn't run the CD, tried to but CD player wasn't
fast enough, I really need to get a new CD player. So it's just about as new as
you can get one.

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4611
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 09/09/93  3:45p
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Steve!

04 Sep 93, Steve Greeno writes to All:

 SG> I AM LOOKING FOR THE FOLLOWING CD-ROM'S
 SG> 1.HOT PIX #1
 SG> 2.BUSTY BABES #1
 SG> 3.ADAM
 SG> IF YOU HAVE ANY OF THE ABOVE PLEASE FAX ME OR LEAVE MESSAGE.
 SG> THANK-YOU
 SG> FAX # [phone]

Still waiting for your call, I still have BB#1. I'm in need of simms BAD,
you can reach me at 512-939-9822
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4612
  To: STEVE GREENO                             Date: 09/09/93  3:47p
Subj: Busty Babes                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Steve!

03 Sep 93, Steve Greeno writes to Pat Rickerson:

 SG> PAT:  I OWN A COMPUTER STORE IN TUCSON AZ. AND WOULD LIKE TO TRADE ANY
ONE
 SG> ITEM THAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR IN TRADE FOR YOUR BB#1. IF INTERESTED YOU
CAN
 SG> LEAVE MESSAGE OR FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497. THANKS.

Can't fax you, but I will try and get my husband to (I don't Know how), you
can reach me any time at 512-939-9822, waiting for your call
Pat

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From: RICK FISHER                            Number: 4613
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/08/93  9:43p
Subj: College/Scholarship CD                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Looking for a cd that helps you select college.
Search gives info on colleges. Also, if there is
a scholarship one available. Thanks, Rick


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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 4614
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/09/93  8:49a
Subj: Re: REVIEW CD                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Yo, Ismail:

> If you sent me a CD for review, I haven't received it as of Sept. 8. Not
> complaining, just thought you'd want to know in case it's lost.  Don't
> want you thinking I didn't hold up my end (which, by the way, now
> requires both hands!).
Hi Bob,
I couldn't locate yor address. Can you fax it to 1-800-277-5179 attention to
me. TTYL

-= IA =-

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 4615
  To: BILL ALEXANDER                           Date: 09/09/93  8:52a
Subj: Re: Elysian Archive /Amiga              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> Ismail,
> When will it be available, and how much will it be? Hope that it will be
> reasonable!!
Hi Bill,
It will be very reasonable priced so every sysop can put it online for AMIGA
users. Within few days it will be ready. TTYL

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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                     Number: 4616
  To: JOHN RUIZ                                Date: 09/09/93  8:56a
Subj: Re: Panasonic 562b                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> ISMAIL, My friend, I sent you a request via the multi-media conference
> last week about if you will be attending the Kent Computer swap meet on
> the 11th Sept 1993.  Will you have the Panasonic 562b CD-ROM available
> without the control card or with the control card at the show???  Next
> question what will be the price at the show for the 562b cd-rom drive??
> Thank You.....   John Ruiz
Hi John,
My employees will be there. They should take some there. I will be in Burnaby,
BC for another show. TTYL

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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 4617
  To: ERIC BRAVICK                             Date: 09/09/93  1:58p
Subj: Re: CDRoms for sale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Eric,

They arrived today Thursday 9-9-93, I will pick them up at the post office
tomorrow and your money will be there probably by Tuesday 9-14-93.

Thanks for the quick shipment!!!


Later dude!


Bill

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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 4618
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/09/93  2:01p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris,

Nope, the brown bag will not be nessecary...<grin>

Later

Bill

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From: JEFF OLESEN                            Number: 4619
  To: SCOTT LACKEY                             Date: 09/09/93 11:18a
Subj: Sick                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SL>I really hope you're kiddin' cause I think porno is sick for
SL>UNMARRIED people, and I think any married person who would choke
SL>their chicken or shove their pudding during one should be shot.

For someone who hates porno, you sure have a way with stupid euphemisms. Just
call it masturbation and be done with it. Or just don't mention it at all....
===
 ■ DeLuxe²/386 1.25 #7679 ■ Scotty! New episode. Beam me a broad.


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From: CHIP MORROW                            Number: 4620
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/09/93  7:48p
Subj: El Cheapo CDROM's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Unloading some used CD's in preparation for 7th Guest:

Game Arena                    6.00
PC Game Room                  8.00
Natl Geo. Mammals            12.00
Hall of Fame (Shareware CD)   5.00
Sample THIS!                  2.50

...or take all five off my hands for $30.00 flat.  Prices include postage
anywhere here in the 48 states.

If you want any/all of these, send check or money order to:

      Chip Morrow
      40 Valley View Drive
      Newark, OH  43055

I will return your check via US Mail if what you want is already gone.
If you want to make sure I'm really a live individual <g>, I can be
reached evenings/weekends at 614-366-2296.


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4621
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/09/93  4:25p
Subj: Re: CD's for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Heather Krause to Bob Jackson <=-

 HK> Hmmm... I guess that would probably be varied by individual
 HK> (female) preference. Actually, I enjoy the ones I've seen, but
 HK> might put less emphasis on male climax (all over the place <g>). It
 HK> would be nice to have more shots of male *bodies*, and not just
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ fe-   ^^^^^^^^
I concur! I'm not a big fan of full-screen genital anatomy classes.

 HK> Interaction, penetration, etc. are good, but I'm not all that
 HK> choked up about "oddities" and pics of kinky stuff. Smallish BBS
 HK> ads are ok, but the ones that take up half the screen are a bummer.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Are you listening, producers?

 HK> And the long intro BBS ads in movie files are a real hassle (don't
 HK> like to wait through them, and feel cheated that so much of the
 HK> disk is taken up by something I have to watch over and over!). Even
 HK> worse are loud, attention-getting noises in movie files.

Well, I don't "do" movie CDs, but if I did, I think I'd complain about
this, too.

 HK> Would rather have fewer high-quality items on the disk than
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Amen!

 HK> stills and I enjoy the motion. Menu interface is nice, IF it works
 HK> properly (I had lots of trouble with CDMENU on Ecstacy Hot Pics,
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The trouble probably stemmed from VPIC, not CDMENU. Older versions of
VPIC didn't work well with some of the newer video chips. Try an
upgraded version, or switch viewers - CDMENU doesn't depend on VPIC.
However, returning back to CDMENU from some other viewers can require
several keystrokes (e.g. ESC-ESC-ESC)

 HK> So.... Any recommendations for what's available currently, based
 HK> on the above? Prices? Dealers?  If you care to discuss/review
                           ^^^^^^^^
Several good ones (dealers) are in this echo; they'll probably
reply to his note as well.  As for recommendations from the current crop
of CDs, meeting your specs is gonna be hard (no pun intended).  Being
hetero, I haven't seen GBL or Hot Hunks so can't say much about
either of them. What few "mini-collections" of male GIFs I've seen that
were on other CDs wouldn't meet your specs either - too many poor scans.
However, either Pork-Ware II or T&A 2 the Maxx might provide
some interest for you.  You should understand that both of these CDs
only has about 250 male GIFs each so on a $/GIF basis, they're not a
good bargain.  (Actually, they're not much of a bargain on any basis
IMHO (:> ).  T&A 2 the Maxx can be had from it's publishers (Profit
Publishing) for $12.95 and Pork-Ware II is available for about $35, both
plus shipping.

Sorry I couldn't be more help.

... I'd rather ride the Wave than wallow in QWKsand!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4622
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/09/93  4:41p
Subj: Re: Adult Cd For Trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Heather Krause to Nino Fagan <=-
 HK> Maybe we can get a discussion of the topic going in the (non-sale)
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If you're going to do this, you'd best stay here (for sale echo).  The
"information" echo no longer permits discussion of adult CDs.

... Spaceballs: The Tagline
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4623
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/09/93  4:42p
Subj: Re: Adult Cd For Trade                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Heather Krause to Doug Carpenter <=-
 HK> one... hadn't heard about it before. I just ordered 2 others, but
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Which ones? I like to keep up on what's available, even if I'm not
personally interested in it.

... A feature is a bug with seniority.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4624
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/09/93  4:55p
Subj: Your check...                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

was rec'd today (Thursday 9/9). Package will go out tomorrow.

... RAM = Rarely Adequate Memory
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4625
  To: CARL SLAWINSKI                           Date: 09/09/93  4:58p
Subj: Adult CDs for Trade                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CS> Super Smutware


Never heard of this one. Where'd you get it?
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From: TODD CRAWFORD                          Number: 4626
  To: NATE LAWSON                              Date: 09/07/93  1:50p
Subj: Tentacle                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> How about $20 for the tentacle game?

Sorry, too low :)  , it's still selling for 50+ in the stores...

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From: DWAYNE COFFELT                         Number: 4627
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/08/93  5:46p
Subj: Mitsumi Ok For Games ?                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Question for anyone who has tried this:
Is the Mitsumi CD Rom fast enough to run CDrom games without poor
quality or is this a lost cause ?  The machine in question is a 386-25.
Any reports of results with specific disks appreciated.
___
 X RM 1.2 00799 X backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic

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From: TED KIDD                               Number: 4628
  To: JOANNINE GESUALDO                        Date: 09/08/93  1:31p
Subj: Pressing A Master                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

JG>        I am looking for someone to press a Cd-Rom Disk Master of a
JG> New AdultCd-rom I am creating. I can supply the files & guarnntee
JG> that none of the
JG> material is copyrighted. Everything is orginal.
JG>        Let me know via this echo or at Fido 1:290/13 if you know who
JG> couldpress the master for me & how much it would cost!

Well, if you are really gonna be in the CD business hot and heavy, you may want
to get a CD Recorder.  They are around $4000-$6000 depending on where you get
them.  There is one made by Pinnacle and one made by Philips.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4629
  To: RICHARD BUNTON                           Date: 09/10/93 12:38a
Subj: Re: Lost Discs...???                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Boris, I thought I would let you know here, rather then calling
>>    your 800 number...(every little bit counts...).

>>    I have never recieved the original order I placed with you...

>>    I told you I would call if it had not come by saturday.

Thanks for the responce, we'll check into it.

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Don't Read Mail Without it!
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From: BRIAN MILLER                           Number: 4630
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/09/93  5:25a
Subj: Walnut Creek Releases                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> -> We now have Giga Games in stock!..
->
->  BM> How much for this cd?
-> We have it in stock for $19.95. 615-339-0235 to order.

Doug,  are you still offering this CD for $19.95?  If so I will take
one,  please leave your 1-800 number.  Thank you....


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From: RALPH MOWERY                           Number: 4631
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/07/93  4:55p
Subj: KING'S QUEST VI: $47!                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>TT>Yep and Mike hasn't replied yet......   Screw the BBB, I'm going to the
MS>TT>President!!!  I ought to get something for my tax increase :{)

MS>Tyrone,
(grin)   <grin>

MS>I DID reply to you in a fairly lengthy message.  If you did not receive it,
MS>give me a call @ 509-457-2892.


MS>---
MS> * SLMR 2.1a * Odo, is there any more jello in the fridge?  Odo?  Odo??

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From: RICHARD CARTER                         Number: 4632
  To: KAREL VITAMVAS                           Date: 09/09/93  9:15p
Subj: ProPhones 1993                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

No it is not limited like American Business Systems.  WE market it, and chose
it because it was one of the better "values" we could find for the price-point.
 There is 7 discs in all.  One is dedicated to Business Listings (7 million +).
 The other 6 are the residential "plus" the business listings, broken out into
6 geographical areas.
The positive side is:  the price, the download-ability, and the "sort-ability".
 The negative side is: it's not as up-to-date as it's $6700 competitor from
ABS.  My guess is that it is about 6-12 months back in accuracy.  For our
business needs, that's close enough.
It's not the solution for all businesses; but I think it meets the needs for
the majority of them.  Especially for the price.
(Now for the commercial:  Our current price on the Mid-Year Edition, 1993 is
$249., including any tax, shipping, frt, etc.)
Richard Carter
ComputerHelp
PO Box 385041
Bloomington, MN  55438-0041
[phone] or [phone]
-----You might talk me down to $199. if you don't dilly-dally....)

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From: GARY KORPAN                            Number: 4633
  To: DOUG JONES                               Date: 09/09/93  8:05a
Subj: Computer Show/Swap Meet                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Doug, this Saturday's computer show/swap meet is in Richmond BC (a suburb just
south of Vancouver) It is usually at the MacPherson Centre auditorium. Sorry
don't know the address.

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From: GARY KORPAN                            Number: 4634
  To: DOUG JONES                               Date: 09/10/93 12:06a
Subj: Computer Show/Swap Meet                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No


Correction, I'm told the swap meet is in Burnaby (a different suburb).
At McPherson Centre, 7325 McPherson Avenue.
Sorry about the earlier mis-direction.  Good luck


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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 4635
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/09/93  9:01p
Subj: Cd Titles for Sale                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have one each of the following CD titles available at the price stated:

$ 8.00     World Traveler Vol. 1      $ 8.00     July 1993 Nautilus
$10.00     Black Box 4                $10.00     U. S. Atlas
$12.00     PC-SIG Vol. 10             $12.00     Toolbook Eval. Ed.
$12.00     Pediatrics Medline         $12.00     Family Med. Medline
$14.00     Pixel Perfect Graphics     $14.00     Disc to the Future II
$16.00     Multimedia Pack 1.0        $16.00     Britannica Family Choice
$18.00     Adv. of Willy Beamish      $18.00     Women of Venus (Swimsuit)
$40.00     1992 Software Toolworks (GROLIER) MPC Encyclopedia Ver. 1.5

Shipping $2.00 1st item, $1.00 2nd item, $.50 each item after the second.
U.S. only. NO C.O.D.. Money order gets 1 day turn around. A check gets a
week hold. All orders responded to by letter with status of order, refund,
etc..

Send orders to:


Paul F. Swider             Phone: (Between 8 AM and 8 PM PDST)
509 Digger St.                           702-877-4907
Las Vegas, Nv.
89107

... OFFLINE 1.50  "What if there were no hypothetical situations?"

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From: JASON SAUVE                            Number: 4636
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/09/93  8:12p
Subj: CD's 4 Sale                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
CD-ROM COMMERCIAL SOFTWARE:
Title                                    Disk Sizes  Gfx    Price (CDN)
────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
CorelDraw 3.0 For Windows                *CD-ROM*    SVGA      $150
  SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
    -  IBM compatible 386s, 486s, and PS/2s
       286s require Windows in protected mode with minimum 4 megs RAM
    -  Windows 3.1 required for True Type fonts
    -  Windows 3.0 font support provided by Adobe Type Manager (not included)
    -  Hard Drive
    -  VGA Windows supported monitor
    -  Mouse or tablet
  INCLUDES
    -  CorelDRAW                -  CorelPHOTO-PAINT
    -  CorelCHART               -  CorelSHOW
    -  CorelMOSAIC              -  CorelTRACE
  CONDITION
    -  Includes everything except the registration card


European Racers                          *CD-ROM*    SVGA      $ 55
  CONDITION
    -  Includes ALL ORIGINAL documents including registration card
    -  Includes model (Porsche 911 slant nose) in it's original package
       Model requires assembly
    -  Used ONLY twice
  PC SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
    -  386 SX or greater                  -  4 MB RAM or greater
    -  SVGA graphics                      -  CD-ROM drive
    -  DOS 5.0 or greater                 -  Soundblaster card
    -  Speakers or headphones             -  Mouse (joystick optional)
    -  13 MB Hard Drive
  DESCRIPTION
    -  State-of-the-art, interactive 3-D instructions for building your own
       Porsche, Bugatti, Lamborghini and Nazca models - four of Europe's
       hottest racing machines!
    -  The plastic modem kit for the super hot, super fast Porsche 911 slant
       nose.
    -  High-tech, motion picture video tips that show you how to paint, glue
       and finish your model like a pro.
    -  Building your car is only half the fun - climb behind the wheel and
       enter an action-packed, 3D driving simulation game guarenteed to keep
       you on the edge of your seat every time you play.
    -  Experience the real life, high-speed handling of each super-charged car
       and the incredible realism of 3-D graphics.
    -  Test your stuff against on-screen competitors on four European roads &
       race tracks.
    -  But, watch out for speed traps! The police are waiting to catch you on
       your way to the track.
    -  Cruise over the track-even over buildings - with European Racers copter
       cam.
    -  Throughout the game, listen, learn or receive your punishment from the
       motion picture video policeman, gas station attendant, sportscaster,
       pit crew attendant, custodian, and beauty queen.
    -  Got a feel for the car? How improve your performance by customizing
       your race car to match the randomly changing weather, the track layout,
       and the competition.


 ┌──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
 │ --  100% of all software contains original box, disks, manuals & other   │
 │     documents unless stated otherwise.                                   │
 │ --  100% of the executable programs are NOT DEFECTIVE.                   │
 │ --  NO guarentees/refunds under any circumstances.                       │
 │                                                                          │
 │ All Prices include sales taxes.                                          │
 │ S & H Approx. $5 in CAN / $7 out of CAN not included in the above prices.│
 │ Money orders and cheques are accepted.                                   │
 │ Cheques will take approx 3 days longer to process and clear.             │
 └──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

*****************************************************************************

For more information, if you are interested in purchasing a product leave
me mail via any board in 519 area code on any of the "For Sale" nets
specifically in the Windsor / Essex County districts with your phone number
included to Jason Sauve, or contact me at [phone] ...

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From: BRYAN BENNETT                          Number: 4637
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/09/93 12:11a
Subj: Wanted CD-ROM                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I would like to get my hands on a new/good condition CD-ROM.  Prefer
to trade for it, but am willing to purchase if necessary.
206-254-4625.
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From: KEN MATTHEWS                           Number: 4638
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/28/93  1:18a
Subj: Day of Tentacle 4/sale                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Day of the Tentacle for sale      35 dollars
Space Quest IV                    20 dollars

Both 50 + shipping

ken 412 793 9152

... Glad To Be Here..
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From: JAMES HOGUE                            Number: 4639
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/09/93  9:16p
Subj: PHONE CDS                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> If I needed to find the address/phone of all businesses in a
-> particular area code, would one on those phone set/thing CDs do the
-> job? Recommendations?

Bob, prophone will not let you do this. You have to specify a SIC
(standard industry code) of some sort. You can pipe several codes
together to do a search but since there are literally thousands of
codes, searching for more than a handful at a time would not be
acceptable.

James

You could find all the grocery stores in a given area code quite easily.

You should be aware that this set is not very complete or up to date.
If you need a comprehensive listing you will still have to use an
outside listing service.
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4640
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 09/10/93  7:12a
Subj: Re: REVIEW CD                           Refer: NONE
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OK. Thanks.
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From: VINCE SORENSEN                         Number: 4641
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/09/93  5:24p
Subj: ADULT CD FOR TRADE                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> HK>     Maybe one of these days someone will come out HK> with a good
-> CD full of HK>     adult material for us ladies. And hopefully HK>
-> it'll be husband-proof. HK>     I'd hate for hubby to realize that
-> I'm enjoying such things!  ;-)
-> HK>     Just to keep this on track as a "For Sale" message... Does
-> anyone HK>     know of an adult CD which is slanted toward females?
-> Title and HK>     price, dealers?
-> Hot Hunks......$38.95....xxx-xxx-xxxx 24 hours to order.

Hi Heather -

    This is a disc more oriented to gays than women, but still lots of
pics to interest the hetero-female. We've got it for $25US/$35Cdn.

    Vince

    CD-ROM WHOLESALERS OF CANADA
    306-789-4654
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4642
  To: JASON SCHWARTZ                           Date: 09/09/93  8:28p
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
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-> I'm interested in Nightowl 9 and/or Shareware Studio II -- could you
-> please give me more detailed info on what they both contain? THANKS A
-> LOT!!!
Hi Jason!
   Both are great shareware discs, with Nightowl 9 being the most
recent. There's no duplication between them, but you may want to get
Shareware Studio III instead - its newer than both, and one of the best
put-together discs out there.
   Give us a call about which ones you want!

   .\\ichellea
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4643
  To: MARC KULAK                               Date: 09/09/93 10:58p
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> Tuesday August 31 1993, Michellea Sorensen writes to All:
->
-> MS>                                         Cdn$   US$ MS>
-> Night Owl 9                   35    26
-> MS>      Shareware Studio I Free with purchase of Night Owl 9
-> How would you get this to me?? I am in Canada, Do you do a C.O.D?? Or
-> a Visa/MasterCard over the phone?  What about shipping?? Etc.

Hi Marc!

    We can ship it to you however you like! We normally go with Canada
Post, and the shipping/handling charge is exactly the cost of the
envelope+postage. We take VISA or Mastercard - your choice... just give
me a call at 306-789-4654, and we'll make you happy.

    .\\ichellea
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4644
  To: KAREL VITAMVAS                           Date: 09/09/93 11:04p
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
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-> MS>             ProPhone 1993 7-disc set      50    37
-> Can you give me more info on the ProPhone 1993 7-disc set at $50Cad.
Hi Karel!

   We've sold out of our current stock for $50 - just sent the last one
off to Florida a couple of days back! Its a set of discs with phone
numbers, addresses, SIC codes, etc. for all areas of the U.S. There
aren't any Canadian numbers I'm afraid. If you're interested, we can
order one in for you, but it would be at the regular price.
You can also get a copy from Mike Shannon - I believe he has
them in stock.

    .\\ichellea
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4645
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES GALORE                Refer: NONE
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DC> MS>  FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-

DC>Mike, I'll take one of those COD if you would.  I'm going to get into
selling
DC>firearms shortly and it would come in handy.

Nah, I'll just invoice you and you can send a check when you get it. I
doubt that you'll stiff me with all the Fidonuts watching. <g>  Somehow
though, I know I'll probably see these in your ads for a nickel less than
my price!  8)

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4646
  To: CARL SCHULTZ                             Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: 7th guest only $39!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CS>Hi would you be wiling to sell me a special price on The 7th guest and Kings
CS>Quest 6 Cd if I bought them at th same time both from you? leave email or
cal

How does $78 sound for a package deal?  Let me know if you're interested.
We can ship same day.

Later,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4647
  To: BRYNE BOTTOMS                            Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: Canadian sales                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO>>>    I got my Adult CD's from the U.S yesterday with no problem at
BO>>>    all and also no customs fees were added either.

Glad to see they got there OK Bryne.  Like I said before, most of the
potential problems with customs can be avoided by proper packaging and
labeling.  Call us if you need anything else!

Cheers,

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4648
  To: CHIP MORROW                              Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: 7th Guest w/video wanted                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CM>So far I have seen Mike Shannon offering new copies of this CD *WITHOUT*
CM>video for $39 in this echo, but have seen very little else advertised
CM>here lately that doesn't say simply "7th Guest".

Chip,

The video isn't that great anyway.  Lots of poorly lit shots with goofy
looking programmers.  I eventually used mine in my camcorder.   8)

Bye,
.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4649
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: ALL-NEW CD TITLES!!!!!!!!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #1:  NEW CD ARRIVALS   |
           |____________________________________________________|

                         > = new since last posting

 5-STAR PREMIUM WINDOWS * Latest Windows shareware + 950 OS2 files!.....$27
 AMERICAN BUSINESS PHONEBOOK 93/94 * New release. 11,000,000 businesses.$39
 ARIZONA IMAGES * Fabulous photos of the Arizona desert country.........$30
 CANADIAN SHAREWARE * 6500+ shareware programs ready to run from the CD.$22
 COLOR MAGIC CLIPART * 600 megs. of 3-D color clipart.  Royalty-free....$27
>DINOSAURS! * Fabulous interactive, multimedia Dinosaur directory on CD.$48
>DR. MUSIC * Brand new offering loaded with sound and music files.......$20
>DR. GAMES * Hours upon hours of gameplaying mayhem! BBS-Ready..........$20
>DR. SHAREWARE * Just another shareware CD? No - this one's excellent!..$20
>DR. WINDOWS * Games, utilities, productivity, business, it's all here..$20
 FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
 GAMEWARE COLLECTION * Over 6000 of the all time best games! BBS-ready..$24
 GIGA GAMES * Brand new from Walnut Creek. Set up for 6 popular BBS's...$26
 HAMWARE 93 * The Ham's #1 source for Ham software......................$28
 KING'S QUEST VI * Newest in the KQ series. Better than 7th Guest!......$47
>MICROSOFT BOOKSHELF 1993 * The latest CD-ROM reference library.........$58
 MICROSOFT GOLF * Multimedia Golf game that is "on par with reality"....$58
 PHOENIX 4.0 * Finally - An update to 3! Very clean CD with fresh files.$28
 PHONEDISC USA * Summer '93 edition w/ 80 million residential listings..$69
 PINACOTHECA M/M * Multimedia presentation of classical paintings.......$24
 PRECISION MAPPING 1.5 * Newest release! Detailed street-level map......$79
 REEL CLIPS * 600mb of royalty-free digital video clips.................$44
 SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
 SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$37
 SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD * Totally new shareware w/ no dupes to Vault 2!....$29

                    Adult Titles (must state age 21+)
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
 AMATEUR MODELS * All original images of young models. BBS-ready........$35
 BUSTY BABES 3.0 * Newest release of top-selling disc. BBS-ready........$25
 DEEP THROAT * CD version of the famous adult flick. Truly a must-see!..$59
>DIGITAL DANCING * Interactive adult "game". Watch her strip for you!...$48
 DIRTY TALK * Full-color, full-motion video w/ adult film stars.........$59
 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2 * Sequel to release 1 with fresh, new images.......$36
 KAMA SUTRA * Indian documentary adult film w/ narration................$59
 LUSCIOUS LADIES * Hot new adult .GIF CD with outstanding cover art.....$37
 MYSTIQUE OF THE ORIENT * 600mb movie featuring Oriental beauties.......$59
 PHONE SEX * Actual .WAV file recordings of 900-number conversations....$27
 SEYMORE BUTTS INTERACTIVE * Fantastic new "interactive" adult film.....$49
 TOTAL FANTASY * Newly released .GIF disc from Denmark..................$33

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4650
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/10/93 12:30a
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD: $29!               Refer: NONE
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            ____________________________________________________
           |                                                    |
           |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #6:  HOT NEW CD-ROM!   |
           |____________________________________________________|
            _______________________________    _________________
           |                               |  |                 |
           |  Title:  SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD  |  |   Price:  $29   |
           |_______________________________|  |_________________|

     You all know about the quality and integrity of Software Vault
     2.  Well get ready because it's successor has arrived!  Introducing
     Software Vault GOLD, an all new, all-1993 shareware CD with many
     new and exciting features . . . . .

     * Over 50 categories to choose from
     * Separate directories for Windows/Windows NT applications
     * The Librarian (tm) user interface with DOS and Windows versions
     * ROMDOOR utility built in for easy BBS setup
     * Fully BBS-ready
     * BEST color cover on the market! (great for shows or store display)
     * 593 megabytes
     * 6148 files

   2-CD SET:  Software Vault Gold + Software Vault 2...(NO dupes!)....$44
   3-CD SET:  Add Software Vault 1...............(still NO dupes!)....$57

                >>> NOW SHIPPING - ORDER YOURS TODAY! <<<

     600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY PURCHASE!!

 INFO/ORDERS..........509-457-2892..9a-9p    Make us your ONE-STOP CD Shop!
 BBS (V.32bis)........509-457-0206..24hrs    *Sysops* get 3-day Air for the
 FAX..................509-457-2966..24hrs    same price as ground shipping!
 ORDERS ONLY..........800-767-1284..9a-9p    International orders welcomed.
 CATALOG FREQ.........1:3407/101 "STARCAT.ZIP" - 300+ titles & descriptions

 STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
 VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5

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From: WES HARDIN                             Number: 4651
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/09/93  7:50p
Subj: NEC MULTISPIN - 280MS EXT               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the above.

A NEC Multispin (150kb for audio, 300kb data) in box with the SCSI interface
card and cord. This has a 280ms avg. seek time & is the exteral model.

Looking for the best offer. Please respond here with offers.

I may trade for something too, just offer!

Wes Hardin


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From: HANK PETERSON                          Number: 4652
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/10/93 10:53a
Subj: Re: BBSCon                              Refer: NONE
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On (08 Sep 93) Lee Noga wrote to Doug Carpenter...

 LN> I spent 5 days out there with Tony and got to know him. A "shame"
 LN> hardly begins to describe the loss this man has sustained. 'Bout all I
 LN> am comfortable speaking about in this forum about this case.

    Have you heard about the seizure of Steve Jacksons BBS Illiminati
    Bulletin Board.  The United States Secret Service seized his stuff
    and now is very very sorry it did. Federal Circuit Court just awarded
    Jackson $50,000 spending money, hundreds of thousands in legal
    expenses and each person who was on his board at the time it was
    seized will get a $1000. Court said it was a violation of the
    Freedom of Imformation Act of 1980/86 and the Electronic Privacy
    Act.  You might want to check this out for yourself.

... Don't disturb a sleeping dog

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From: CARLOS BENITZ                          Number: 4653
  To: DAVE REED                                Date: 09/10/93 12:50p
Subj: BBSCon                                  Refer: NONE
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DR> BJ> I can understand this, but isn't it a pity we have to be afraid of our
DR> BJ> own Government?  "Big Brother" *IS* listening!

DR>If you're not engaging in any illegal activity, you have
DR>nothing to worry about.  ;-)

For a moment I thought you were serious.  Then I saw the smiley.

Gosh, these political echos are fun reading.

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From: NINO FAGAN                             Number: 4654
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/08/93  3:21a
Subj: Re: TOSHIBA CDROM SPECIAL               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

   Boris Osadciw wrote 
╒═══════════════════════════════╕
∙>The Toshiba, like so many other cdroms today use the standard sony
∙>caddies.
∙>Our current price is $4.25ec up to 10 and $4.15 for 10 or more.
∙>If this is of interest to you, please feel free to contact us at
∙>216-225-3263 anytime and we'll be happy to assist you further.
╘═══════════════════════════════╛

Drats! I just bought two of them for $4.90. :(  But now that the
prices of the CDRoms are reasonable I'm sure I'll need more and
will definately keep yours in mind.  (Remember when you couldn't
get ANY CDRom for less than $300?)

As an aside, you really didn't have to quote the whole message,
your answer would be enough to jog the memory.

Regards,
Nino
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From: CARL SLAWINSKI                         Number: 4655
  To: LEE WINSOR                               Date: 09/10/93  9:21p
Subj: Re: Shareware Explorer - CD-R           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ahoy Lee!

On <Thursday September 02 1993>, Lee Winsor was mumbling to All:

 LW>          The hottest selling CD-ROM at this years ONE BBSCON!

Do you base this on the fact that you only had about 8-10 titles to choose
from. <grin>


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From: CARL SLAWINSKI                         Number: 4656
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/10/93  9:24p
Subj: Re: Adult CDs for Trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ahoy Bob!

On <Thursday September 09 1993>, Bob Jackson was mumbling to Carl Slawinski:

 BJ> Never heard of this one. Where'd you get it?

ONE BBSCON

Published by the guy I bought it from. Chicago something or other.

Says on the CD that it is Vol II of Smutware and Scans are courtesy of Corp.
Graphics.

660 MB Super VGA Only 1024x768.


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 4657
  To: ALL USERS                                Date: 09/10/93  3:26p
Subj: CDRoms for sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CDRoms for sale:

  ShareWare Heaven 1993              $27.00  600+ Megs of MSDOS/Win
  Hobbes OS/2  June 1993             $15.00  640+ Megs of OS/2
  Project Gutenberg  July 1993       $22.00  Tons of classic lit/history
  Source  March 1992                 $22.00  Tons of C code
  Garbo May 1992                     $15.00  600+ Megs of MSDOS/MAC
  Simtel MSDOS May 1993              $15.00  630+ Megs MSDOS
  Aminet June 1993                   $15.00  Hundreds of megs of Amiga
  CICA Windows Aug. 1993             $15.00  630+ Megs of Windows stuff
Postage and Insurance is $5.00 per order, 2nd day priority shipping.
I will ship COD.  Add $5.00 per order for COD charges.

Send checks/money orders to, and/or feel free to contact:

Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

[phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 4658
  To: BILL ALEXANDER                           Date: 09/10/93  7:48p
Subj: Re: CDRoms for sale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> They arrived today Thursday 9-9-93, I will pick them up at the post
>> office tomorrow and your money will be there probably by Tuesday 9-14-93.

    We can hope, the last COD CDRom shipment I sent was a disaster.  The
post office got me the person's check 36 days after shipment.  Quick turn
over, eh?  They aren't suppose to take checks, either.

>> Thanks for the quick shipment!!!

    No problem, I try to ship CODs same day.

Eric


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From: CHIP MORROW                            Number: 4659
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/10/93  5:36p
Subj: El Cheapo CD disks gone                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

FYI - The five el cheapo CDROM disks that I advertised yesterday
(Hall of Fame, two game CD's, a sampler, and Natl. Geo. Mammals)
were all sold here locally about 10 minutes ago.  Thanks.


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From: BILL JONES                             Number: 4660
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/11/93 10:44a
Subj: FOR SALE                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 I have the following CD's that are no longer needed.

 Shareware Overload
 Shareware Gold II
 RBBS Shareware
 Canadian Shareware
 5-Star Premium Windows Collection
 Swimware 93

 I'm asking $15.00 plus $3.00 shipping for each, if anyone
 takes all six they can go for a total of $75.00 including shipping.
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From: PETER RALLIS                           Number: 4661
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/09/93 10:48a
Subj: CDs For Sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 03 Sep 93  13:35:00 Bob Jackson graced us with these words of wisdom:

 BJ> I'm clearing out my shareware and misc. CD collection.  All CDs
 BJ> listed are in like-new condition and are priced at $5.00 each. Please
 BJ> add $3.00 postage PER ORDER.  Post here or call [phone] to
 BJ> reserve or confirm availability. Will consider trades for adult CDs.
 BJ>
 BJ> Encyclopedia of ClipArt
 BJ> Colossal Cookbook       Cookbook Heaven
 BJ> Ham Radio
 BJ> Mega Win/OS2

I'll take any of the above that are still available.  If you have a fax
my fax number is 719 573-2630 otherwise leave details here.

Thanks,

peter...


... "I think not" said Descartes, and promptly disappeared.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 4662
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 09/09/93 12:41p
Subj: MITSUMI                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>Bruce, I overheard you reply to someone that the mitsumi is compatible with
>sound galaxy.

One specific version of the Sound Galaxy - more data available in the CDROM
echo, I don't have one myself I'm just going by reports.


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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                     Number: 4663
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/09/93  2:27p
Subj: BBSCON                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

> LN> As you know I sat on the panel for "Adult Images", and if your in one
> LN> of those States I mentioned,
>        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Are there others besides Oklahoma, Florida, Alabama, and Utah?

I suspect that Indiana should be on the list, but our "obscenity" laws here are
so VAGUE that they could almost get you for having a copy of "Whisler's Mother"
in a .GIF for download....


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From: JON FURNEAUX                           Number: 4664
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/08/93 10:51a
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Liquidation                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> ________________________________________________________
 MS> |                                                        |
 MS> |   Starvector Sales Bulletin #4:  CD-ROM LIQUIDATION!   |
 MS> |________________________________________________________|
 MS>
 MS> All sales are final - Sale limited to stock on hand!
 MS>
 MS> Game Pack 2.........$22 Canadian Shareware..$19   MAC
 MS> Shareware.......$22   Jedi Collection.....$39 Original S/W 1993...$10
 MS> Conan the Cimmerian.$27   Reel Clips..........$35 Kodak Photo
 MS> CD......$18   Phoenix 3.0.........$12   Ham Radio 3.0.......$10 Lion's
 MS> Share........$20   Clipart Galore......$25   Window Master.......$17
 MS> Windoware...........$10   Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$22   Great
 MS> Wonders.......$32 Top 2000 Shareware..$18   Software Vault 1....$17
 MS> Return to the Moon..$26
 MS> 600mb SHAREWARE CD or WINDOWS GAMES CD ONLY $6 WITH ANY
 MS> PURCHASE!!


What type of shareware is on the "Canadian Shareware", "Original S/W 1993",
"Top 2000 Shareware", and "Software Vault 1" and the date ranges of the
files on each? ie. 1992-1993 or 1993 only etc..

Thanks... also what are the prices on these in canadian fund with shipping
and etc..?

Jon Furneaux


... Fun, fun, fun, 'til her daddy takes her Blue Wave away!
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From: GLENN CAREY                            Number: 4665
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/10/93  8:53a
Subj: Re: canadian sales                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

  *In a message dated 08 Sep 93  02:48:05 Boris Osadciw writes:

BO> You'll be even more please when you see our BRAND NEW CATALOG ! To
BO> put it
BO> lightly....it's AWSOME and so are the savings and FREE BEES !!
BO>
BO> Watch your mail box soon....if you don't get yours soon, drop us a
BO> note
BO> and YELL for a copy or you'll miss out on a lot of specials.
BO>
BO> Chat with you soon.....
BO>
BO> Boris Osadciw

Yo Boris are you gonna send one out to everyone who bought a cdrom from you
I hope so cause I will be looking forward to getting it


*FSED91j*
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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 4666
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/05/93  1:12a
Subj: BUSTY BABES II PREORDERS!               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to All <=-

 MS> BUSTY BABES II * Over 1000 new and original hi-rez scans + Showoff

How does this one compare to BB III?  Any celeb photos???


Steve
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From: STEVE BERRY                            Number: 4667
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/07/93  8:43p
Subj: Re: Wondering...                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DC>  SB> What is the BEST Files.BBS Formated BBS CD rom out
DC>  SB> at this time? for use on
DC>  SB> ANY bbs to be a little more critical?
DC>
DC> Nightowl 9 has a Files.BBS in each subdirectory.  We have it in stock at
DC> $25....call 615-339-0235 24 hours to order.


Woah, .. Thanks! Ill keep that number in mind.

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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 4668
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 09/09/93  1:16p
Subj: -=- Monthly Catalog -=-                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 RL> Michael Richard Hansen beamed onto the Enterprise and said:

 MR>  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 MR>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
 MR>  =-=   MONTHLY CATALOG OFFER   =-=
 MR>  =-= If you are interested in

I'd like a catalog. Send to me at:




... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 4669
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/09/93  1:18p
Subj: Busty 2.0 Preorders                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Doug Carpenter to All <=-

 DC> * *  B U S T Y  B A B E S  * *  RELEASE 2.0  * * IS BACK!! * *
 DC> Will be re-released in September.  We are taking pre-orders.
 DC> The Price - $27.95.  We will meet any price on it.

Any celeb photos on this release?


Steve
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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 4670
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/09/93  2:28p
Subj: CD CADDIES                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to John Pimentel <=-

 MS> We carry the higher quality Japanese-made caddies at prices ranging
 MS> from $4.99 to $4.39.  Here is the quantity breakdown:

Do you have any made in the USA?


Steve
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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4671
  To: CARL SLAWINSKI                           Date: 09/10/93 10:31a
Subj: Re: Adult CDs for Trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to All <09-07-93 13:52> Carl Slawinski wrote:

CS>> Have the following Adult titles that I would like to trade for
CS>> something more tame.

CS>> Busty Babes #1 Release 3.0

Just a note, Busty Babes Vol II (1 Oct release), is more along the lines of
what your looking for--It has less then 100 slides of the XXX, and 900 of
images of California girls (no top, no bottom, wet t-shirt, nudity, swimsuit,
teasers in skimpy clothing, hotbuns)....big busted women etc.

Plus 200 MB of 1993 shareware to boot !

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4672
  To: CARL SLAWINSKI                           Date: 09/10/93 10:35a
Subj: Re: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Mike Shannon <09-07-93 13:50> Carl Slawinski wrote:

CS>> I'm looking for something to put on the BBS that won't get me in
CS>> trouble for obscenity/indecency. Is this really 93 and are the images
CS>> copyright infringement free?

BB II is 1000 images licensed to us by the photographer who gave us permission
to allow the sysops to put it online--These slides are copyright worry free,
and the women are gorgeous--As a sysop, I have removed the previous CD's and
will have this one online for the very same concerns you express--As I
mentioned on the panel at BBScon, this publishing house is the sysops
solution-- Trust me !

You will swear these images came from magazines ! NOT ! We got them from the
photographers that shoot for the major mags though :)

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: CATALINO ALVAREZ                       Number: 4673
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/10/93  6:26p
Subj: CD--Buying                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking to see if anyone can give me a better deal out there.
I will be purchasing a Edutainment-16 Cd ROM.  Comes with SB 16 and approx.
five diffrent titles.  CD runs at 320ms with a 300kb transfer rate and holds,
I believe 640Kb.  Of course it comes with the shielded pair of speekers,
which I don't need at all.
This bundle pack will run me $549.99.

I'm looking to see if anyone can give me a better deal.  All I really need is
a CD with those specs and the SB 16 with only Compts Ency. and 7th Guest.
I DO NOT need any speakers or any other software.
The Animals would be nice though.

Please contact me as soon as possible, will have $$$ for purchase on about
9-15-93, but will wait for a couple replies.

CAT  [phone] (voice), or on the board.

THANX,  CAT

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From: MICHAEL KELLY                          Number: 4674
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 09/10/93  6:53p
Subj: Dual Mitsumi System                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

*@ORIGIN :DATANET BBS  *Fuquay, NC* 919-557-0342  FD/PCB/USR-DS       N
-> > I have two mitsumi cd-rom drive in my PC (= 2 cards controler) > My
-> question : It's possible to chain this drives and how ?
-> Hi Phil,
-> No it is not possible. TTYL

But it is possible for both of them to co-exist though, right?  I have been
looking at adding a second Mitsumi.  I have the additional empty slot but need
to be sure that they will work together.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4675
  To: MARK ELSON                               Date: 09/11/93  3:06a
Subj: Re: Busty Babes II                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

->> We've handled Lee's cd's so long, it would be a crime not to Mark!
->>
->> As for price, until we get our first copy in hand, we'll hold off
->> posting prices as they change from one week to the next. But I can
->> assure you, it will be close.
->>
->> Chat with you soon....watch for our post !

>>    Boris,

>>    Go ahead and send it to me COD.....The Address is below...but
>>    you should have it....

Not a problem, we'll add you to our growing list.....

Thanks...

Boris Osadciw

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4676
  To: WAYNE ROZNAK                             Date: 09/11/93  3:06a
Subj: Re: Wanted Phillips CM212 Caddies       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Looking for caddies for a Phillips CM212.

>>    Best Regards
>>    Wayne Roznak

How many do you need ???

Drop us a note via the fidonet address below and we'll try to help you
out.

Boris Osadciw

... "640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates, 1981
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4677
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/11/93  3:06a
Subj: ALL NEW CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

     )))))))))))))  SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 IS NOW SHIPPING ((((((((((((

       100% 1993 shareware disc - 600+ MEGABYTES ( 4,000 + files )
       of only the best shareware from 1993 - Six different file
       formats for use with every major BBS - All lists have been
       searched, cleaned, and recompiled for quality !
                   This is the ULTIMATE in BBS CDs!
                             Price - $35.00

ORDERS US/CANADA 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX [phone]

Boris Osadciw

... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4678
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/11/93  3:06a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

**************** C D - R O M    D R I V E   P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit    - $359.00  Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit   - $289.00  Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare     - $799.00  Pioneer DMR604X Bare  - $1199.  -SCSI
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00  Texel Ext 265ms Bare  - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int Complete Kit  - $469.00  Texel Ext Complete    - $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare  - $439.00  Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $569.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit   - $195.00  Mitsumi w/Sound Card  - $325.00 -PRPR
 Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50.  ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec
  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]


Boris Osadciw

... Mail Media. Do not expose to Flames!
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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4679
  To: CHIP MORROW                              Date: 09/11/93 12:16a
Subj: El Cheapo CDROM's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Chip!

09 Sep 93, Chip Morrow writes to All:

 CM> Unloading some used CD's in preparation for 7th Guest:

 CM> Game Arena                    6.00
 CM> PC Game Room                  8.00
 CM> Natl Geo. Mammals            12.00
 CM> Hall of Fame (Shareware CD)   5.00
 CM> Sample THIS!                  2.50

 CM> reached evenings/weekends at 614-366-2296.

Have 7th Guest, never been used as our cd player won't play it, we did watch
the viedo. Call if you want to trade 512-939-9822

Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4680
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/11/93 12:20a
Subj: Your check...                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Bob!

09 Sep 93, Bob Jackson writes to Pat Rickerson:

 BJ> was rec'd today (Thursday 9/9). Package will go out tomorrow.

Thank's I'll be waiting for the CD's.

Pat

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4681
  To: JAMES HOGUE                              Date: 09/11/93  7:50a
Subj: PHONE CDS                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

OK, thanks for the info. I'm really only interested in businesses and I  don't
have access to SIC codes. Maybe someone will take the hint and  produce such a
CD for the masses. Cheers!
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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4682
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 09/11/93  7:51a
Subj: BBSCON                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

You probably saw Lee's list - it was quite lengthy.
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From: RONALD LEON                            Number: 4683
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/10/93  7:49p
Subj: CD Wanted                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for Wind Commander 2 on CD. The one that has all the secret
missions and speech pack.

Ron




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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 4684
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/11/93  2:36p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

DFW Discount Electronics       09/11/93        Orders: 800-829-0331
                                               Local : 214-254-0331
CD-ROM Price List                              BBS   : 214-259-4188

   * = Indicates file listing available for download via our BBS

CD-ROM Drive
~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Mitsumi Int. CD-ROM 350ms Kit w/adapter (non-SCSI)        187.00

Shareware
~~~~~~~~~
* CLIPART GOLIATH (4/93 by Chestnut): Over 11,000 PCX, TIF, $15.00
  and many other formats. For most desktop publishing
  programs.

* DR. GAMES (6/93, BBS Ready, by Aces Research, Inc.):      $25.00
  Adventure, Arcade, Card Games, Chess, Flights, Puzzles,
  Simulators, Sports, Strategy, Tetris, Wars, Windows
  Games, and much more.

* GAMES 1993 (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago Computer Broker): $22.00
  Over 6,000 files including Apogee games, unprotects,
  tips, Tetris clones, lotto, casino, sports, VGA arcade,
  Flight Simulators.

  MONSTER MEDIA 1993 (5/93, BBS Ready): 420MB, no duplicate $32.00
  files, FILES.BBS format included and conversion utility
  provided for most popular BBS systems.

* NIGHT OWL 9 (6/93, BBS Ready, by Night Owl Publisher):    $27.00
  Great disc!

  PC SIG 12 (3/93, by PC SIG): Latest in the PC SIG series. $29.00

  PC-SIG WORLD of WINDOWS (8/93, BBS Ready, by PC SIG)      $22.00

  PHOENIX 4.0 (8/93, BBS Ready)                             $21.00

* SCI-FI FANTASY (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago Computer      $25.00
  Broker): VGA pics including Star Trek, Star Wars,
  Fantasy, D&D, Creatures, Conan & much more.

* SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 (7/93, BBS Ready, by Power User       $28.00
  Software): 650MB, VGA Arcade Games, Home & Hobby,
  Graphics, Clip Art, Sound Files, Finance, OS/2, Windows,
  Fonts & much more.

  SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD COLLECTION (9/93, BBS Ready, by       $29.00
  American Databankers): Over 6,000 files, over 590MB.
  File areas include: top software hits of 1993, Windows
  apps and games, DOS games, family & education, business,
  utils, GIFs, clip art, programming &

* SHAREWARE April 1993 (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago         $23.00
  Computer Broker): 5,000 files, games, sounds, Window,
  utils, education, finance.

  SHAREWARE OVERLOAD: Over 6,100 files, Games, MS Windows,  $15.00
  Business, Clip Art, Education & much more.

* WINDOWS 1993 (1/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago Computer        $24.00
  Broker): 7,000 files, Corel Draw utils, BMP, CRD,
  wallpaper, games, icons, fonts, screen savers, clip art,
  etc.

Clip Art
~~~~~~~~
  GIFs GALORE: Over 5,000 full color GIFs and viewers for   $19.00
  MS-DOS, Macintosh, Amiga and Unix.

  VGA SPECTRUM II: Over 680MB, over 800 MOD files, over     $24.00
  1,100 VOC files, animation, SoundBlaster, Top 20 games.

Game
~~~~
  INDIANA JONES & THE FATE OF ATLANTIS: LucasArts' latest   $46.00
  adventure with The Man with the Hat.  Only Indy can stop
  the Nazi agents from unleashing the deadly secret that
  sank Atlantis.  Full voice and enhanced digital sound
  effects.

  KINGS QUEST V                                             $19.00

  LOOM: LucasArts' truly unique fantasy graphic adventure,  $29.00
  You play the role of a young weaver in the Age of the
  Great Guilds.

Reference
~~~~~~~~~
  FAMILY DOCTOR: Over 1,500 of frequently asked medical     $26.00
  questions, approx. 300 color medical illustrations, names
  & addresses of support groups/education resources,
  complete data on over 1,600 prescription drugs.


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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 4685
  To: STEVE BERRY                              Date: 09/12/93 11:12a
Subj: files.bbs                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RE: Re: Wondering...
BY: Steve Berry to Doug Carpenter on Tue Sep 07 1993 08:43 pm

watch it when they say files.bbs compatable......yes there is a file called
files.bbs but the file descriptions are multiline not the single line entry
used/expected by some bbs software.  If you import the files.bbs from NO9 and
your system will only read the first line of files.bbs your file description my
look like this:

EXAMPLE.ZIP    10101  5-5-93  This is the best program i have seen it will

while the actual files.bbs description was:

EXAMPLE.ZIP    10101  5-5-93  This is the best program i have seen it will
                              do actually nothing.

hope this helps.
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From: DOUG HUNKELE                           Number: 4686
  To: MICHAEL KELLY                            Date: 09/12/93 11:15a
Subj: Dual Mitsumi System                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RE: Dual Mitsumi System
BY: Michael Kelly to Ismail Arslangiray on Fri Sep 10 1993 06:53 pm

you can run dual mitisumi systems with no problem, use the software driver vice
the hardware driver and it will work.
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From: SCOTT TRACZYK                          Number: 4687
  To: MARK SANCHEZ                             Date: 09/10/93  8:30p
Subj: Cheap CD-rom                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

MS>Panasonic Double Speed Internal w/interface   $265.00
Mr. Sanchez, what's the stats on the Panasonic Double speed?  and will
it work with a Sound Blaster Pro?  How many do you have in stock?  Where
would I order it from, and how much would shipping cost to get it to
Rogers, Mn?

      Thanks for the info,
                          Scott Traczyk

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From: THE SISTER                             Number: 4688
  To: HEATHER KARUSE                           Date: 09/12/93 10:10a
Subj: Re: CD's for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Bob!

BJ> However, either Pork-Ware II or T&A 2 the Maxx might provide
BJ> some interest for you.  You should understand that both of these CDs
BJ> only has about 250 male GIFs each so on a $/GIF basis, they're not a
BJ> good bargain.  (Actually, they're not much of a bargain on any basis
BJ> IMHO (:> ).  T&A 2 the Maxx can be had from it's publishers (Profit
BJ> Publishing) for $12.95 and Pork-Ware II is available for about $35, both
BJ> plus shipping.

Well as a Women & a owner of T & A 2 the Maxx Heather Don't Bother! Most
of the Scans are the same as the ones from Profit Press's FAO series. The
scans are grainy and are not very good. I am trying to find a Publisher/Dealer
to work with to create a more Female slanted Adult Cd-Rom Disk. With Couples
& More Quality Males. Heather if you would like to see what I mean by quality
Male Scans You can contact My BBS at 1-515-256-0402 or 1-515-256-0560. I need
proof of age...Feds will be happy....You can take a look through the large
(no Pun intended) collection of Male Nudes I have amast & created myself!
        Joannine Gesualdo

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From: THE SISTER                             Number: 4689
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/12/93 10:19a
Subj: Re: CD's for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Bob!
        Read My Post to Heather about this, & T & A 2 the MAXX!
                Joannine Gesualdo

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From: BOB CENTERBAR                          Number: 4690
  To: CHARLEY WEBB                             Date: 09/12/93  9:45a
Subj: wanted                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 09-11-93 CHARLEY WEBB wrote to BOB CENTERBAR...

 CW> BC >I've got an internal 535 with controller card & cable for
 CW> BC >$200.00, reply
 CW> BC >here or call 817-699-6525.
 CW>
 CW> Well I have been getting just the drives for $150.00, dont need the
 CW> controller,
 CW> would you sell just the drive for $150.00??

Sorry...will only sell as a set, for now, but should I change my mind I'll
repost the message.

Thanks for the offer...Bob

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 4691
  To: CARL SLAWINSKI                           Date: 09/16/93  8:22a
Subj: Re: Adult cds for trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 On 09-15-93 Carl Slawinski wrote to Paul Swider...

 CS> Is it BBS ready and suitable for that type of environment?
 CS> Is it PG/R type stuff only (ie. no X-Rated penetration type
 CS> stuff)?

 Carl, The Women of Venus Swimsuit CD is not BBS ready. There are no file
 descriptions of any sort. It is made to play on an PC or a MAC as a slide
 show with music or viewing with whatever GIF or TIF viewer a person prefers.
 So although these are just pretty women in colorful suits (PG type stuff),
 I don't think it'll meet your needs if it must be BBS ready and that is why
 I didn't respond by calling. >Paul<



... OFFLINE 1.50  "Standards are wonderful. So many to choose from!"

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From: PAUL SWIDER                            Number: 4692
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/16/93  9:18a
Subj: Total Fantasy XXX CD                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Just wondering if anybody has had a chance to check this CD out and how
does it compare to others. Is it another rehash or is it really something
new ? Appreciate any inputs. Thanks in advance. >Paul<


... OFFLINE 1.50  "Beauty is skin deep. Ugly goes clear to the bone."

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From: MIKE BRITT                             Number: 4693
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/14/93 10:32p
Subj: Re: Cd Player                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 PR> Hello Mike!
 PR> Is the cd player sold? In need of one please reply!


     Am I selling one? Please refresh my memory...do you want an Audio Cd
Player or Computer type?

                                                  Mike

Sphinx EM/v5.0 * Artificial Intelligence: The other guy's opinion.

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 4694
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  8:29p
Subj: BUSTY BABES #2                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I AM LOOKING FOR BB #  2 , IF ANYONE HAS THIS CD-ROM FOR SALE PLEASE LEAVE
PRICE AND MESSAGE OR FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497.

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From: STEVE GREENO                           Number: 4695
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  8:34p
Subj: BB VOL.1 #2                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I AM LOOKING FOR BUSTY BABES VOL.1 #2 , IF ANYONE HAS THIS FOR SALE PLEASE
LEAVE MESSAGE OR FAX ME AT 1-602-292-0497. THANKS

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4696
  To: LEWIS BULLARD                            Date: 09/15/93  5:20p
Subj: Your check...                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

still not received as of Wednesday, Sept. 15. I will hold the package through
the weekend only if I don't hear from you otherwise. [phone].

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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4697
  To: LOUIS BULLARD                            Date: 09/15/93  5:18p
Subj: Your check....                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

still not rec'd as of the mail delivery on Wednesday, 9/15.
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4698
  To: ED DUCHEK                                Date: 09/16/93 12:58a
Subj: Re: NEW CD                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    The 4-disk set I was refering to was the PD one.  Hope that
>>    helps you out. If not, shoot me info on both of them....  I am
>>    tired of having to log onto bbs's to get a small PD file, and
>>    then they expect you to pay em over what a cd is worth just
>>    for a 3month membership... shez.

Could you shoot me your voice number, seems the number we have here
is not current or there's something wrong.

Will give you a call as soon as I have it!!

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4699
  To: DOUG HUNKELE                             Date: 09/16/93  2:20a
Subj: Re: catalog                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    RE: Re: canadian sales
>>    BY: Boris Osadciw to Glenn Carey on Mon Sep 13 1993 01:51 am

>>    well boris put me on the bottom of the list for your catalog

>>    Doug Hunkele

OK, you sure you want the bottom ?? It's a V E R Y  L O O O O O N G
list, but we always ami to please.

Oh the Bottom you will go...Oh the Bottom you will go.....Hi Ho to the
Bottom you will go...grin -:)

Boris Osadciw

... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4700
  To: GARY RAMBO                               Date: 09/16/93  2:20a
Subj: Re: Catalog                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>>    Mr. Osadciw,

>>    You might recall the the recent phone conversation we had on
>>    the 13th of September.  I was looking for a caddy-less, fast,
>>    OS/2 compatible, SCSI CD-ROM drive (internal) to attach to my
>>    Pro Audio Studio sound card.

>>    Would you please send me your catalog (if you have any left).

The easy part is the catalog, the hard part will be the drive.

As I stated during our conversation, your asking for something that
doesn't exsist at this point. In fact, we may not even be using cd's
by the time they come up with the above unit.....grin -:) but we'll
keep looking and looking and looking and looking.

Geezzzeee what a NEW PLACE will do to you !!

Oh....do you want to be placed on the Bottom of the list....grin -:)

Boris Osadciw

... Xpress Yourself!
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From: COREY BICCUM                           Number: 4701
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  3:27p
Subj: Hi speed rom drive?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Ok, just started looking for a rom drive the other week, and was wondering
where would be the cheapest place to get one.  I am looking for the dual spin
scsi type say like a toshiba.  I am writing from Vancouver, BC.  The cheapest
I've seen this drive for is $412us  for card, and drive.  So add on the dollar
and it's getting up there in price.  The main thing is I'm kinda scared having
problems with the drive and buying it from the states.  Anyone know of any good
deals for me?  Either Canada or USA I'd be glad to here from yeah, I am
probably willing to buy two of these drives and cards and a few cd's.  Either
reply to me in the area or E-mail me on this bbs (address below of course), if
you are a dealer, maybe you could send me a catalog of your goods.. roms..ect

thanx in advance...
cb


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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 4702
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/11/93  2:22p
Subj: WANTED                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

SG> IF YOU HAVE ANY OF THE ABOVE PLEASE FAX ME OR LEAVE MESSAGE.
SG> THANK-YOU
SG> FAX # [phone]

PR> Still waiting for your call, I still have BB#1. I'm in need of simms BAD,
PR> you can reach me at 512-939-9822

Sheesh Pat, if your so desperate for a sale, call *him* and be done with it
already! Your messages are gettin' old. (OTM) Who has some good used Adult or
Commercial cdroms.
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From: JOE SLIFER                             Number: 4703
  To: CHIP MORROW                              Date: 09/11/93  2:28p
Subj: El Cheapo CDROM's                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

CM> Unloading some used CD's in preparation for 7th Guest:

 CM> Game Arena                    6.00
 CM> PC Game Room                  8.00
 CM> Natl Geo. Mammals            12.00
 CM> Hall of Fame (Shareware CD)   5.00
 CM> Sample THIS!                  2.50

 CM> ...or take all five off my hands for $30.00 flat.  Prices include postage
 CM> anywhere here in the 48 states.

 CM> If you want any/all of these, send check or money order to:

 CM>      Chip Morrow
 CM>      40 Valley View Drive
 CM>      Newark, OH  43055

 CM> I will return your check via US Mail if what you want is already gone.
 CM> If you want to make sure I'm really a live individual <g>, I can be
 CM> reached evenings/weekends at 614-366-2296.


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From: DONALD WEN                             Number: 4704
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/14/93  6:34p
Subj: Prophone cd-rom                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Prophone Business+One CD-ROM, 1993 version 1.2.  Single disk.  National
Business Directory on CD-ROM from Prophone's National Edition.  From ProCD
New Media Publishing.

Opened, but manual, registration, and other documents are complete.

How about $25 shipped or best offer?  Reply here if interested.

DONALD WEN
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From: SCOTT OGILVIE                          Number: 4705
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/14/93  5:06p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO*  ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX [phone]

Boris where do you ship from?

Scott Ogilvie

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From: NICHOLAS O'KRAY                        Number: 4706
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/13/93  8:45p
Subj: CD-ROM Catalogs Wanted                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

All Vendors,
           I would appreciate anyone who sells CD-ROM software
to please send their catalogs or price lists to the following
address.

Nicholas O'Kray
447 S. Hampshire
Elmhurst Il, 60126


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From: GARY GILMORE                           Number: 4707
  To: ALL VENDORS                              Date: 09/15/93  9:19a
Subj: Needed!                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'm looking for a good ROM for my system.

I want newer titles, a bare minimum of artwork, prefer NO NO NO ANSI "art" or
"adult" files, heavy on the utils (DOS & Win), and with a minimum of Windows
clocks, button bars, and other oft duplicated "utils".  Disk should be low/no
dupes.

It also has to have a BBS compatible (Files.BBS/Maximus) layout.

Suggestions and prices please.  (Netmail would -really- be nice!)
Please include shipping/COD charges in pricings.  Thanks!

Catalogs can be sent to:

The Bloom County BBS System
4459 Bingham
Dearborn, MI  48126

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 4708
  To: ROBERT KUMMER                            Date: 09/15/93  7:52a
Subj: Re: CD'S To Trade or Sell               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

RK>    After Dark
RK>    XXX Extreme

Well I have VGA Spectrum that I would trade... ??  For either of the Above ?

  Kevin Plummer
   [phone]

                        .......|<evin

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 4709
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  4:04p
Subj: Night Owl $25                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

                  N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0
 ******************************************************************
 *********                                                *********
 ***********           $ 25.00 a Copy !!!               ***********
 *********                                                *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 *********               Ask for Barney                   *********
 ***********           ------------------               ***********
 *********               1-800-638-5757                   *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 *********           We Will NOT be out Sold              *********
 ***********                                            ***********
 ******************************************************************
                  N i g h t   O w l   9 . 0


       ---->>>>>  BBS Ready - Has Files.bbs  <<<<<----

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From: KEVIN PLUMMER                          Number: 4710
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  4:05p
Subj: Dealers WANTED !!!!                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

==========>>>>>>  W A N T E D     D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========

  Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers

                   Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
                         Darrel Rivenbark

  Cheapest Prices around !!!!

                                        1-800-865-5354
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From: DENNY VANDEMAELE                       Number: 4711
  To: DANNY BRIGANCE                           Date: 09/11/93  4:03p
Subj: Bible CD                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have decided to keep it for now Danny.  Sorry about that.  I spent some more
time with it after the last message I sent you, and I don't think that it's too
bad if you read the Docs and Helps real careful while using it.
Den

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From: THOMAS NUFER                           Number: 4712
  To: BILL JONES                               Date: 09/13/93  7:56p
Subj: Re: For sale                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I will go $50 for the lot!Most of it is outdated but still a buy at $50!
Call me at 1-616-344-3329 and ask for Tom or send Post Office COD...
              Tom Nufer
              5135 Spiral
              Kalamazoo,MI 49004

or you are willing to trust me send them priority mail and I will Postal Money
Order you the same day!

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From: THOMAS NUFER                           Number: 4713
  To: DOUG CARPENTER                           Date: 09/13/93  8:18p
Subj: Re: great cdrom prices                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Do you have the 10 disk NASA photos CD collection by any chance and if so how
much?

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4714
  To: STEVE GERWECK                            Date: 09/15/93  8:19a
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES II PREORD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <09-13-93 18:50> Steve Gerweck wrote:

SG>> What do you recommend?

Well, don't recommend any of them, Hehehhehe--Smutware, Ecstasy, BB I, PC Pix
I,II,III, Hot Pix series (some of them), I know for sure are not repressing--If
ya seen one ya seen them all IMHO--

HUgs,

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4715
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/15/93  8:27a
Subj: Re: Cities/States                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Mike Shannon <09-14-93 09:28> Bob Jackson wrote:

BJ>>  LN>nailed for trafficking--

BJ>> Oklahoma               All (27) adult video stores

BJ>>  Mind you, I'm not trying to dispute what Lee has said,
BJ>> merely providing information. Draw your own conclusions.

Agreed, but let me add that Tony Davis is being charged with trafficking XXX
adult GIFS via the phones, and Oklahoma shows 27 adult video stores--Full story
in 'Boardwatch-Sept 93 issue'--So unless you have lots of money, this serves as
no arguement, because it will take tons of money to cross reference the adult
video industry :)

So I conclude the same--Be CAREFUL !!

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: BOB HALL                               Number: 4716
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93 10:02a
Subj: HUNTING CDROM'S                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If anyone out there has the Star Trek CDROM, or the Phone Sex CDROM, I
am looking for them.  Please call me with a price, trade,etc..

Bob
1-800-550-3403

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 4717
  To: KIRK REEVES                              Date: 09/15/93  3:27p
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I Kirk,  I had sent my money order to Doug Aug. 3 of this year.  Nothing has
come yet!  I have left him nemerous messages and called his phone and left
messages (Twice) and no reply.  So I would advise you to wait untill I get my
games (If I do) and I'll leave you mail if it's safe or not.

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From: DARREN SELLNER                         Number: 4718
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/15/93  3:31p
Subj: NEW CD-ROM TITLES GALORE                Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Hi Mike,  I had ordered some things from Doug Carpenter (Aug. 3) and nothing
has come yet.  I have left him numerous messages asking him When or if he's
even got my money order yet and the date of shipping he shipped my money order.
  Do you think you could get him to answer these to for me?  Because I have
also called his answering system twice and left messages on there and I have
not YET had a reply.


                Thanks.
                        Hope you can help me.

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From: MIKE CICCOLINI                         Number: 4719
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  7:10a
Subj: Mitsumi CD and Music CD's               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Can anyone tell me if the mitsumi CD can play music cd's like the ones
used on my stereo? What is the capacity available with this cdrom?
Here is my set up:
Soundblaster 1.5
Always IN2000
Scsi Hard drive
What else would I need to have to be able to run a CD rom without any
problems.

 * OLX 2.1 * I can't remember what I told you not to forget!
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From: NATHANIEL BRITTS                       Number: 4720
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/16/93 12:22p
Subj: adult cd's                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I was wondering if anybody out there had any gay adult cd's for sale, at a
reasonable price. If not does anybody know where I can find some at? Thanks!
Hope to hear from you soon.
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From: MIKE BRITT                             Number: 4721
  To: REBEL                                    Date: 09/15/93  8:31p
Subj: Re: Mitsuma                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 R?> @ORIGIN :Southern Pride BBS 1:151/151
 R?>         N
->     I'll offer ya $110 for it.
->                                       Mike
 R?> Thanks for the offer but 125.00 is the bottom dollar can
 R?> sell it next month for 125.00 if I have no luck here but
 R?> thanks anyway.. Eddie Goodman Southern Pride BBS 1:151/151


      I will take it, if you guarentee against DOA.

                                        Mike
                                        704-786-6974

Sphinx EM/v5.0 * Today's subliminal thought is:

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From: ANDY BILAK                             Number: 4722
  To: CARL SLAWINSKI                           Date: 09/16/93  5:32p
Subj: Re: Adult CDs for Trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-* Quoting what Carl Slawinski said to Andy Bilak on 09-14-93  12:24 *-

 CS> Ahoy Andy!

 CS> On <Saturday September 11 1993>, Andy Bilak was mumbling to Carl
 CS> Slawinski:
 AB> Would you be interested in selling either of them?

 CS> I suppose. However, I'm still waiting on any trade offers.  8-)

Allright, well if they dont follow through then leave me mail on this
conference and I will get back to you.  Thanks.


... Sir, it looks like the individual took a drill to the Hard Drive.
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From: ANDY BILAK                             Number: 4723
  To: ROBERT KUMMER                            Date: 09/16/93  5:37p
Subj: Re: CD'S To Trade or Sell               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-* Quoting what Robert Kummer said to All on 09-13-93  14:35 *-

 RK> Anyone want to trade some CD's ???

 RK> I have the following CD's I would like to trade or sell.

 RK> Night Owl's Daytime Express
 RK> Night Owl's Business CD
 RK> Shareware Explosion II
 RK> Wiz-Pak 6-Pak CD
 RK> Black Box 4
 RK> Pheonix 3

 RK> Also have 2 adult title's

 RK> After Dark
 RK> XXX Extreme

Would you be interested in selling any of these CD's instead of
trading them?


... Sir, it looks like the individual took a drill to the Hard Drive.
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From: ANDY BILAK                             Number: 4724
  To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY                       Date: 09/16/93  5:41p
Subj: Re: Total Fantasy-$19.95                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-* Quoting what Ismail Arslangiray said to All on 09-14-93  06:06 *-

 IA>
 IA> New Adult Disk
 IA>
 IA> Total Fantasy
 IA>
 IA> Thousands of High Quality GIF and animations.
 IA>
 IA> Price: $19.95
 IA>
 IA> Available thru:
 IA>
 IA> GroupWare
 IA> 4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
 IA> Tacoma, WA 98409
 IA>
 IA> 1-206-472-1400 or 1-800-373-0628
 IA> FAX [phone] or 1-800-277-5179

Can you tell me the resolution of most of the GIF's and how many are
there on the CD.  How many megs total, and stuff like that.  Also, to
order can I just send a money order?


... Sir, it looks like the individual took a drill to the Hard Drive.
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From: BILL MILLER                            Number: 4725
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 09/15/93  9:12p
Subj: Re: Cd-rom Drive For Sale               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

What are you asking for it?
                     Bill Miller

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From: BILL MILLER                            Number: 4726
  To: JERRY MICKISH                            Date: 09/12/93  3:56p
Subj: CDROM FOR SALE                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HI JERRY HOW MUCH ARE YOU SELLING YOUR NEC FOR IF IT IS'NT SOLD YET?
I'D BE INTERESTED. DOES IT COME WITH ANY DISCS? AND DOES IT COME WITH
CARD AND CABLES AND DRIVERS? PLEASE E-MAIL ME BACK.
                                           BILL MILLER
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From: RON MYATT                              Number: 4727
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/16/93  7:41p
Subj: CD Player                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Wrong rebel   no cd for sale  sorry
Thanks Ron
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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 4728
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/16/93  7:37a
Subj: RE: Toshiba Q's                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>    Hmmm... I guess I shouldn't tell him about all the cat hair I
>    get inside there, eh?    ;-)

Heheh.....probably be a good idea to wait and let him find out when he starts
taking the computer apart....hopefully,he hasn't got any allergies<grin>.
 Sounds like it should work out pretty nice,though, if he's putting a 512Meg
HD,Toshiba CD-Rom,etc.....

Enjoy!

                            Diana

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 4729
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 09/16/93  7:47a
Subj: RE: Night Owl v10 Pre-Release           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi!
 I would like to be on your mailing list.Please send all info to:

                           Diana Kirksey
                           1624 Hwy.99 Sp#79
                           Manteca,CA.  95336

              BBS # [phone]

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From: DIANA KIRKSEY                          Number: 4730
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/16/93  7:59a
Subj: RE: Re: canadian sales                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please send me a Catalog,too.

                     Diana Kirksey
                     1624 Hwy.99 SP#79
                     Manteca,CA.  95336


                           Thank You,
                                       Diana

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4731
  To: MIKE BRITT                               Date: 09/17/93  1:46a
Subj: Cd Player                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Mike!

14 Sep 93, Mike Britt writes to Pat Rickerson:

 MB>      Am I selling one? Please refresh my memory...do you want an Audio Cd
 MB> Player or Computer type?

 MB>                                                   Mike

Looking for computer type you can call 512-939-9822 or reply here, thank's
Pat

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From: PAT RICKERSON                          Number: 4732
  To: BILL JONES                               Date: 09/17/93  1:56a
Subj: CD'S                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Bill!

16 Sep 93, Bill Jones writes to Pat Rickerson:

 BJ>  Sorry Pat but I couldn't let them go for less than $70.00.

If they are still for sale I will buy them for $70 if you can please tell me
where to send the check, thank's can call to ver if you want to 512-939-9822

Pat

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From: WES HARDIN                             Number: 4733
  To: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON                    Date: 09/15/93  7:48p
Subj: NEC MULTISPIN - 280MS EXT               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CB> What model is it and will it work under OS/2 2.1???  Is
 CB> the drive new or old or whatever...  Anyway, my biggest
 CB> most important question, can you play audio CDs on it
 CB> without adding any extra equipment apart from little
 CB> amplified speakers???

 CB> Chris

Its true SCSI so I guess it would work under OS/2.1, I haven't tried it yet,
and its been opened but is in "new" shape as to its been used less then 1 hour
to test it (and mainly the system). And yes it comes with software to play
audio cds and supports redbook audio so you get 16bit HIGH QUALITY audio
without any more hardware. This is supported on things like Toolworks'
Multimedia Encyclopedia (with real speeches, musical compositions, animal sound
and even bird calls, I have tried this out and its so real running though my
system that my dog went to the speakers, trying to find the animals!, this also
works with things like, Great Cities of the world, and
even WINDOWS! The drive has a headphone jack in the front with a volume
control knob, and the standard audio out jacks in the back!
What is your offer? I will talk to you later... or call me at [phone].
Wes Hardin


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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 4734
  To: CARL SLAWINSKI                           Date: 09/16/93  1:26a
Subj: Re: Adult CDs for Trade                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Carl -

   CS> Have the following Adult titles that I would like to trade
   CS> for something more tame.

   CS> Busty Babes #1 Release 3.0
   CS> Super Smutware

   CS> Prefer a Swimsuit/Nature Nudity type CD. Not XXX.
   CS> Open for Trades or Deals.

I have a copy of "Women of Venus" that I'll trade for Super Smutware.
It's an excellent disc, strictly bathing suit shots, and great for
general audience BBS use.  Photos on the disc are scanned in three
resolutions, from 320x200x256 to 24 bit (1024x768x16.7 million colors).

If you're interested, call me (voice) at [phone] M-F 9-5.

                                                  - Arnie :+}

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From: ARNIE GROSS                            Number: 4735
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/16/93  1:17a
Subj: Re: TAM Review - Addendum               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Bob -

   BJ> My apologies! My previous review of this CD left out
   BJ> some important text.  Apparently when I wrote the

     The original review never came through here!  Would you
please repost this?  Thanks.

     By the way, I don't recall anyone thanking you properly
for contributing these reviews.  They have saved me hours of
browsing and, due to the subject matter of these discs, also
prevented me from going blind <g>.....

                                             - Arnie :+}

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From: ARNOLD SMITH                           Number: 4736
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  9:36p
Subj: Wanted Microsoft Bookshelf              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I would like to purchase bookshelf. Ill buy from the lowest bidder.
Thanks Arnold

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4737
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 09/16/93  4:39p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD PRICE LIST                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <09-14-93 23:15> Jean-Claude Demars wrote:

JD>> LN> BB II is 1000 images licensed to us by the photographer who

JD>> Can I get some information on this?  I'm also interested.

We have adapted to the new industry standards of offering *ALL* original
photography--We weeded thru 1600 slides and chose 1,000 of them--This disc is
more of a T&A disc, most of the shots are outdoor and involve oceans, pools,
jacuzzi's etc--We have the following directories

a) Wet t-shirt, no panties, busty/no top, swimsuit, teasers, women with
women, full nudity *Standing, sideview,sitting*, boy with girl, bunshots,
   nudity lying down, from the waist-up shots....200 text stories, and 200
   MB of shareware as a bonus

b) Contains the 1993 image viewer, "SHOWOFF", click and zoom your favorite
   part of the image <snicker-snicker>, and the classic CDMENU for text
   story reading etc....

c) Very tame compared to previous works, but if you like a variety of women
   and your a boob man, this disc will sure to please.

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4738
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 09/16/93  4:40p
Subj: Re: BBSCon                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Lee Noga <09-14-93 23:33> Jean-Claude Demars wrote:

JD>> I could see it now...  Dear user, if you are calling from a city that
JD>> does not  allow XXX files, hang up now...

We all fear the same (:--Its sit and wait and see what the Gov't does, but I
know I will not be the example for obscenity, its bad enough I am the most sued
of publishers :)

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4739
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 09/16/93  4:50p
Subj: Re: BBSCON                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Doug Carpenter <09-10-93 15:27> Brice Fleckenstein wrote:

BF>> Tony Davis was busted for selling "Adult" CD-ROMs in person.
BF>>  Also, Lee likely has forgotten more about the case by now than you
BF>> currently
BF>> know, as she (and I) both had some longins conversations with Tony at
BF>> the One
BF>> BBS Con on this subject....

Whatcha' mean I have forgotten ? I have not forgotten anything, and I am well
versed on the subject--Did you mean to use the word 'Forgotten' in lieu of the
word 'Gotten'--I will retract my claws pending the answer :)

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: LEE NOGA                               Number: 4740
  To: HANK PETERSON                            Date: 09/16/93  4:53p
Subj: Re: CD's for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

In a message to Heather Krause <09-14-93 19:09> Hank Peterson wrote:

HP>>      on the back of the package is wrong.

HP>>      which said to type Printme and follow the step be step
HP>> directions.

Tie my hands to the bed and make me write bad checks :)--YUP, there is no
CDMENU on rel 3.o, covers were done befoer the showoff deal materialized at
last minute--It will be on BB Vol II with showoff though--

We apologize, and we bare our bottoms in shame :)

-=*>Lee<*=-

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From: GECKO                                  Number: 4741
  To: PHOENIX                                  Date: 09/15/93 10:25p
Subj: Key to the closet...                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Good enough? I got in, the pass word was just that, a password. <G> Good clue
though, I filled in about 5 words before I got it. So, don't I geta slight
access change?<G>
                             0-Gecko-

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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4742
  To: HANK PETERSON                            Date: 09/16/93  8:22p
Subj: Re: CD's for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

HP>     I tell you this because maybe that same thing is happening to you
HP>     and people aren't aware of how to run that disk and the information
HP>     on the back of the package is wrong.

    Thanks for the info, but that wasn't my problem. The disk I had it on
    was Ecstasy Hot Pics, not the one(s) you mentioned. And I got it to run
    fine, except that it bombed on several of the files while viewing.

    Anyway, the info might be very useful to someone else who's in that
    boat, so thanks anyway!

- Heather
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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4743
  To: ANDY BILAK                               Date: 09/16/93 12:39p
Subj: Re: over 21 CDROMS                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DC>
 DC> SMUTWARE..(640+ mb-1000 SVGA gifs-2000 VGA
 DC> gifs-100 anims **)...26.95

 AB> I want to buy this CD.  Can I send you a money order and what is the
 AB> address to send it to?


Yes..you can send a money order to PCJ, 323 TN Nursery Rd., Cleveland, TN
37311.  Add $5 for shipping.  We have it in stock as of this message.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4744
  To: KIRK REEVES                              Date: 09/16/93 12:43p
Subj: Adult Cd-rom Disk 4Sale                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 KR> Would you be willing to sell me Asian ladies, Mystique of the Orient,
 KR> and the seventh guest you said you were selling for 39.  all together
 KR> for an even hundred?

Nope..sorry.

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From: DOUG CARPENTER                         Number: 4745
  To: LONG TIMER                               Date: 09/16/93 12:45p
Subj: Re: ADULT CD-ROM DISK 4SALE             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Call our BBS at 615-478-2890 and download pcjcds.zip.

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From: TIM SCHOOLER                           Number: 4746
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/16/93  8:54p
Subj: NIX PIX I                               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Nix Pix I CDROM disc, one only, 75.00 shipped. 1-318-988-1404 or netmail
1:3803/1.4



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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 4747
  To: AL LEE                                   Date: 09/15/93  7:34p
Subj: CD Trade                                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

AL>Would like to sell/trade KGB/CIA World Factbook CD
AL>I received with my CD drive.  Low miles: I only used it to test the drive
AL>and go back and forth to church on Sundays :)
AL>$15 + shipping obo

   $10 including shipping is offered.

   Gene Ehrich   P.O. Box 209   Marlton NJ   08053-0209
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From: GENE EHRICH                            Number: 4748
  To: BOB ROSOL                                Date: 09/15/93  7:35p
Subj: COREL ARTSHOW 3 CD                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BR>Latest Corel ArtShow 3 CD with beautifully printed coffee table book

BR>          $25 + UPS

   I'll offer you $22 including USPS.
 ■ QMPro 1.50 41-4216 ■ Apathy Error: Don't Bother Striking Any Key


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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4749
  To: LEWIS BULLARD                            Date: 09/16/93  4:18p
Subj: Check rec'd                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

by mail on Thursday, 9/16. It was cancelled twice - one in Oak City and  once
in Houston. Perhaps that had something to do with the delay. Anyway,  CDs will
go out tomorrow. Cheers!
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: KIRK REEVES                            Number: 4750
  To: DARREN SELLNER                           Date: 09/16/93  8:34p
Subj: <> CD-ROM TITLES & MORE <>              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DS> I Kirk,  I had sent my money order to Doug Aug. 3 of
 DS> this year.  Nothing has come yet. So I would advise you
 DS> to wait.

Thanks for the warning.  So far I haven't brought anything from him.  Still
shopping for the best price.

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From: KIRK REEVES                            Number: 4751
  To: COREY BICCUM                             Date: 09/16/93  8:42p
Subj: Hi speed rom drive?                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 CB>  I am looking for the dual spin scsi type say like a
 CB> toshiba.  I am writing from Vancouver, BC.  The
 CB> cheapest I've seen this drive for is $412us  for card, and drive.

I am looking for a cd-rom drive as well.  This is a good price.  Can you tell
me where you found this drive.  Hopefully he is a dealer so he has plenty
available.  Leave me a note with the name and address.  Also, leave me a
reminder about this message as The  message disappear fast on the board I call
and I am forgetable.

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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                       Number: 4752
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 09/16/93  7:00p
Subj: Night Owl v10 Pre-Release               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello Ray!

In a message to All <09/13/93> Ray Herold wrote:

RH>  NEWSLETTER:  TCM will be sending out another Newsletter with more info
RH>  on Night Owl 10 within a week or so.  If you aren't on our mailing list,
RH>  leave a R/O message here with your name/address, or call the BBS and
RH>  leave a Comment to the Sysop.  Members of our newsletter "family" receiv
RH>  DISCOUNTS not available to the general public.

Please put me on your newsletter mailing list:

Jeff Collingwood
1942 Rowley Av
Ramona, CA 92065

...Jeff...

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From: FRANK GRESH                            Number: 4753
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/16/93  8:51p
Subj: Adult CD ROM's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

-> FG> Just curious, and looking for a few recommendations...I would li
-> FG> know what folks consider as their favorite adult CD, I've just o
->
-> Too broad of a question (pardon pun). What kind of subject matter are
-> you looking for (e.g. nudity or sex; if sex, what kind - hetero or
-> ???)
OK, that was a broad question, in more specific terms..
SVGA or VGA graphics, 256 colors, hetero, sex and nudity (don't they go
together), yes I am MPC compatible.
.
Hope this helps, and someone can head me in the right direction, seems
like soooooo many CD's, so little time (well money too).  Thanks, any
help from anyone would be appreciated
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From: SAM BECKWITH                           Number: 4754
  To: SASHA ZIVANOVIC                          Date: 09/16/93  4:16p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Sasha,

I don't buy or sell used equipment...thanks anyway.

Thanks,
Sam


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From: ROEL SARCENO                           Number: 4755
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/15/93  8:42p
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1 FOR SALE!                 Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Mike,

->                |   BUSTY BABES vol 1 release 1 FOR SALE!   |
->
->                          - All offers considered -
->
->   This is the one all the controversy is about!  Flawless example wit
->   original jewel case and covers.  No smudges, no cracks, no scratche
->   BONUS OFFER:  I will include a brand new BUSTY BABES vol 2 release
->                 with this CD at NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE, to the highest
->                 bidder.  This all new edition of Busty Babes should b
->                 ready by late September, so if Busty #1 sells before
->                 is released, we will ship separately when available.
->

Will you accept $55 for Busty Babes Vol1 - Rel1?

Roel


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From: AL LEE                                 Number: 4756
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/16/93  6:08p
Subj: Re: CD Trade                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

No, thank you.

Al

... RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure!
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From: BILL WOLFORD                           Number: 4757
  To: BILL JONES                               Date: 09/14/93 11:02a
Subj: Swimwear 93                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'll take the swimwera 93. If you can send me a phone number I'll be
glad to call about where to send the check.

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From: MARK JOHNSEN                           Number: 4758
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/16/93 12:11a
Subj: Adult Cd For Trade                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Greetings All, I have a copy of Asian Ladies I'd like to trade, currently
interested in Southern Ladies or 7th Guest (with or without video).  I'd
also consider trading the disc and some $$$ for Mystique of the Orient.
Thanks in advance!  =:)

,\\ark


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From: RON DWIGHT                             Number: 4759
  To: JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS                       Date: 09/16/93 10:31a
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROMS                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi Jean-Claude,

 > in the event it helps, if you can produce a disk with less directories
 > in it then the SMITEL disk, I'd buy it.  I have a Simtel in my system
 > now, and only use about 1/3  of it because I can't see setting up file
 > areas that only have less then 10 files in them.

          Then I suggest you don't go anywhere near the AmigaNet CD.  While
Simtel-20 has a lot of directories on it, AmigaNet has 595!


                                                   Cheers,

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From: JEFF WEISS                             Number: 4760
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/16/93 12:27a
Subj: ** Cut your own CD-ROM!                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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 o   (DC6525, DC6320, DC6250, DC6150, DC600A, DC300XL/P) 1/4" Streaming
 o   4mm DAT (DDS, DDS-DC, DDS1-DC, ECMA 139) (60m, 90m) (1.3 - 8.0 GB)
 o   Please call for ADDITIONAL REMOVABLE MEDIA FORMATS available.
 o   We will transfer data from floppies for a surcharge of $2.00/disk.
 o   We will transfer data from CD to CD for a 50% reduced set-up fee.

 o     FULL CONFIDENTIALITY is assured.
 o     Quick turn around time is provided.
 o     Data integrity is guaranteed.

Cost:  $50 set up charge per original.
       $100 for each CD.
For example, it is $150 for 1 CD, $250 for 2 CDs, $350 for 3 CDs, etc.

That's less than $0.25 per megabyte!

SysOps get a $25 per CD discount!  1 CD for only $125!  2 CDs for $200!
Get multiple copies for additional security and save $$$.

All prices are in US funds and include Priority delivery within the US.
COD charges are extra.

Call for Canadian and overseas delivery.

Connecticut residents, please add 6% sales tax.

Long-term contracts are available at a deeply discounted price.  Unique
CDs are available for as little as $75 each.  Call for details.

 o     We can embed individual serial numbers in the data on each CD
       for authenticity verification at no additional charge.
       You can't get that level of service from the major CD plants
       at any price.

Please call first to schedule your CD conversion and to confirm
compatibility with your back-up software and hardware.

Eternal Archive Solutions, Inc.
PO Box 4402
Waterbury, CT 06704-0402
[phone] voice
[phone] fax

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From: GERALD RYCKMAN                         Number: 4761
  To: FRANK GRESH                              Date: 09/16/93  5:33a
Subj: Adult CD ROM's                          Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

FG>>Just curious, and looking for a few recommendations...I would like to
  >>know what folks consider as their favorite adult CD, I've just orderd a
  >>couple from Mike Shannon, but I'm still curious, because I have seen so
  >>many advertised.  Any help would be appreciated. Thanks..Frank

I personally think they are all pretty much the same...but then I look
at pornography differently from others: "You see one you see them all".
But then, I apply that phrase only to X to XXX-rated pictures...I
never like them. I love G to R-rated pictures better. I look at
photography rather than pornography.

I can tell you what NOT to buy...there are 2 Swimsuit disks I know of
that are ripoffs and 1 R/X-rated CD that don't worth poo-poo (another
word for the 4-lettered word starting with "S"). The 2 ripoff disks are
"Lovely Ladies 2" and "Women of Venus". The 1 XXX-rated CD that doesn't
worth hoot is "Digital Dreams".

Why they suck??? Well, first of all, the 2 swimsuit disks contain
duplicate files. They are the same pictures but different resolutions.
LL2 contains 94 2.35 megs each 24-bit 1024x768x16m BMPs (VPIC refused
to work), 400 1024x768x256 BMPs, and 400 640x480x256 BMPs of the same
crap. WOV contains 96 megs of useless Macintosh music files, 425 of 24-
bit 640x480x16m TIFs, 425 of 640x480x256 GIFs, and 425 of 320x200x256
GIFs of the same junk. WOV is even worst because the pictures are
extremely badly touched up (if they did touched up). Dark color covers
most of the pictures....and unbelievably you can see veins or blood
vessels covering their bodies. I am sure ALL picture viewing program
from ALL under-developed, low technology countries, allows you to view
1024x768 down to 640x480 and quite a few picture viewers are able to
cramp and view a full 1024x768 picture into a 640x480 screen.

The 1 R/X-rated Digital Dream I know of that sucks pretty bad because
it contains all 1024x768x256 GIFs but the worst of any kind
picture quality. Dark and lines-invested pictures on all pictures. And
most of the pictures are probably 640x480 but re-edited and cramped
into a little picture making it 1024x768. Well, they claim this disk is
a brand new release. MAYBE. Brand new but old scans using 1940's
scanners.
*
1 more worth mentioning but minor problem....Erotic Encounters Volume
1. It contains mostly XXX-rated pictures and over 250 corrupted,
unreadable GIFs.

Anyways, in my list of CDs, seems like the 7-disk Seedy ROM collection,
the 3-disk PC-PIX series, and the 4-disk (5?? actually because the 1st
disk is illegal on most states and definitely illegal anywhere in
Canada) Hot PIX series are worth the price. I like them because they
contain alot of those series of DS-F (DataShack), NLR/NLG (Nitelog
Imaging), LADYR/LDYR (Garlique), PICR/PICG (Prizm), and a whole lot
more R-rated Playboy Magazine type of pretty babes. But then, they
also contains quite of bit of those lousy Garby's Lounge, NightHawk,
and Laura's Lair amateur XXX-rated photos and alot of other BBSes'
XXX-rated pics.

*

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From: BRIAN BOURNE                           Number: 4762
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/16/93 11:02p
Subj: CD-ROM for Sale                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have "The San Diego Zoo Presents: The Animals" (The Windows Version).  This
disc in still in the shrink wrapping.

I will sell it for $20, no tax.

Give me a call at 225-0205.

Brian

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From: MICHAEL KOKOTT                         Number: 4763
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  4:13p
Subj: Catalogs wanted...                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Christian Bourguignon@1:163/512 meinte am 12.09.93
zum Thema "Catalogs wanted...":

I am looking for any CD-ROM catalog I can get my hands on!!!  Anyone who is
selling CDs and who have catalogs available from around the world, please
send them to:

I would also like drive catalogs with different drives for sale...

I want this catalogs too!

Michael Kokott
Pleistalstr. 217
53757 St. Augustin    GERMANY

I like to sell your CD here in Germany, please contact me if you're interested.
Greetings
Michael
--
** BYE BYE sagt Michael (bloeder Fuss, aber besser als vorher) **



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From: BOB JACKSON                            Number: 4764
  To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN                       Date: 09/16/93  7:55a
Subj: Intolerance                             Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Scott Lackey <=-
 BF> Please keep your intolerance to yourself in the future. ESPEICALLY
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sorry, Brice, but you asked for this one: Your constant tirades against
caddies and Windows is no different than this fellow's, a;beit you
stayed on topic and he didn't. If you want to help stamp out
intolerance, do it by example. <EOT>


... Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded!
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From: LARISSA DE SANTIS                      Number: 4765
  To: ALL VENDORS                              Date: 09/16/93 12:33p
Subj: CD-Rom                                  Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

If you could please send me a catalogue of your stuff... I would really
appreciate it!

        5726 Arenas Timbers
        Humble, TX   77346
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From: RUSSELL WAGNER                         Number: 4766
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/16/93  2:57p
Subj: WISH                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 * Original to All at 1:390/5.4 in "LIMBAUGH"
 * Forwarded Thu Sep 16 1993  14:57:43 by MICHAEL SELLS at 1:390/5.4

This message was from JOHN ANDRIESSEN to ALL,
originally in conference ShortwaveL
and was forwarded to you by RUSSELL WAGNER.
                    -------------------------
Hello everybody,

Hereby a message that is not related to aviation but also very important.
Sorry Moderator but I hope that you will can slip this message for one time !

John

   -------------- < C U T > ----------------------------------------


Hello Everybody,

In the Childrens Hospital Sofia, in the netherlands, is lying the 8 years old
Mike van den Heuvel.
He is a terminal-leukemie patient an unfortunaly he has no longer to
live anymore !
His last wish is to get in the Guiness Book of Records. We would like
to ask you to work with him and make his dream possible !!
You can help him by that to send him a greatingscard or something like
that. He need a lot of cards to become his dream possible, so please
please, help him !!!!!

His Adress:         Mike v.d Heuvel
                    Sophia Kinderziekenhuis
                    Quarantainebox 3
                    Gordelweg 160
                    3038 GE Rotterdam
                    Netherlands
                    -----------------------

Greatings,
Monique

    FMail 0.94


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From: TIMOTHY KINNEY                         Number: 4767
  To: ALL                                      Date: 08/24/93 11:08p
Subj: CD ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Mitsumi CD Rom (NEW) Installed Locally LR, AR area 225.00
CALL:
P.C. Sol at [phone]
Tim

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From: HANK PETERSON                          Number: 4768
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/17/93  9:44a
Subj: Re: CD's for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (16 Sep 93) Lee Noga wrote to Hank Peterson...

 LN> Tie my hands to the bed and make me write bad checks :)--YUP, there is
 LN> no CDMENU on rel 3.o, covers were done befoer the showoff deal
 LN> materialized at last minute--It will be on BB Vol II with showoff
 LN> though--
 LN>
 LN> We apologize, and we bare our bottoms in shame :)

    My dog Sedrick writes bum checks while Trixie his girl friend has him
    tied to the bed. He does it with his tail. You been takin lessons
    from him?  Thanks for the feed back. I am a old hand with XXX rated
    videos (used to have coffee with John Holmes at a drive in Hollywood,
    at the corner of Western and Hollywood Blvd.) but I am new to the
    CD-ROM stuff.  Lookin forward to your new release. I got rid of my
    electric skillet and now fry my eggs on the Texel when Busty Babes
    is running.






... I know Karate - and enough Chinese words to spell "Dead Punk", too.

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From: RICK KOSICK                            Number: 4769
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/17/93  7:36p
Subj: CDS 4 SALE                              Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I have the following titles for sale (used).

PIER 1 -15.00
Niteowl 6 -13.00
Niteowl 7 -18.00
Shareware Extravaganza (4 disk set) -20.00

Contact Rick Kosick at Modern BBS Development (NO REPLIES HERE!!)
voice [phone]
internet [e-mail]
fidonet 1:273/730

Email or voice only please, no replies here!!

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From: GEORGE SCOTT                           Number: 4770
  To: MIKE CICCOLINI                           Date: 09/17/93  9:35a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi CD and Music CD's           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On 15 Sep 93  07:10:11, Mike Ciccolini spewed the following on All:

MC> Can anyone tell me if the mitsumi CD can play music cd's like the ones
MC> used on my stereo? What is the capacity available with this cdrom?
MC> Here is my set up:

Yes, I have an old Mitsumi drive (850 ms access time argh!) I play CD's all of
the time.  A file came with the installation disks called TCDP.EXE, try music
box or something if you run windoze.

George

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From: BILL DENNISON                          Number: 4771
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/16/93  3:56p
Subj: CDROM SPECIAL                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Boris,
    Will you be carrying the Night Owl #10 disk?  I've seen an offer for
$39,  but know _someone_ out there will have a much more reasonable
price of $25 or so like all the other Night Owl disks. <g>

    Bill


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From: TAIRA OKAZAKI                          Number: 4772
  To: DONNIE RAYNOR                            Date: 09/16/93  2:05p
Subj: PROBLEM WITH CD ROM                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 DR> I was wondering if any could shed some light on a problem that is
 DR> about to drive me crazy? I bought a new Mitsumi internal CD-Rom and
 DR> installed it in my 386/40mhz IBM clone. I have a SBPro sound board
 DR> installed and am using the controler board that came with the Mitsumi
 DR> to run the CD-Rom drive. O.K. this is where it gets strange. After

I am not sure what kind problem is. But from my experience, you can try to
chenge the CD-ROM device program. There are two types of transfer driver in
MITSUMI drive. When I used DMA transfer I got stuck sometimes. So I cnhnged to
the software transfer driver. Then I was able to use it without any problem.
I am not specialist for CD-ROM drive but I just wanted to say from my problem
with my MITSUMI internal drive.
    GOOD LUCK!!
       SEE  YOU LATER!!
            from T.O.

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From: GREG ISOKRARI                          Number: 4773
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/16/93  7:00p
Subj: Adult CD-ROM                            Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I am looking for a couple of adult CD's...  However I would like some
discriptions first.  I am looking for a CD that has gifs with everything form
R-XXX, everything that is but gays, animals, bondage, or any of the really
demented stuff...

I would also like to get an interactive game of some sort...  I have a SVGA
1024-768, but I like a vesa driver (If anyone has a vesa driver for Oak
Technology I would love to call long distance and get it from you)...  Make
that lack a vesa driver.  So no SVGA unless I get that driver something funny
that is above the PG-13 level.....

Any help would be appreciated...

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From: MARTIN BELCKE                          Number: 4774
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/17/93  3:02p
Subj: Hackers World Monster-I                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

**********************************************************
******* NOTICE **** NOTICE **** NOTICE **** NOTICE *******
**********************************************************

Tired of the same OLD files you find on other CD-ROMS?

Tired of the same OLD "filee" added to the CD because
there aren't enough good programs?

Tired of getting ripped off?

               YOU NEED HACKERS WORLD
                    MONSTER-I CD

This CD has over 4,000 files that are all 1993.  There are
NO fillers, GIFS, or Adult Files.  Only QUALITY programs
are on this CD.  We guarantee it!!  BBS Ready.............

                $45.00  (Shipping included)

[phone] Voice (M-F 10-6 Central) [phone] FAX
[phone] USR D/S Lines            [phone] Data

Master Card/Visa/Personal Checks/Company Checks/Cash

Call today and order your own personal copy................

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From: BILL ALEXANDER                         Number: 4775
  To: BORIS OSADCIW                            Date: 09/17/93 12:00a
Subj: Re: Canadian sales                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BO> You'll be even more please when you see our BRAND NEW CATALOG ! To put
BO> it
BO> lightly....it's AWSOME and so are the savings and FREE BEES !!

BO> Watch your mail box soon....if you don't get yours soon, drop us a note
BO> and YELL for a copy or you'll miss out on a lot of specials.


Boris,

Please send me a catalog!

Address is:

Bill Alexander
509 Pine Ridge Ln.
Aubrey, TX 76227


Thanks.

Bill

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From: RON THOMPSON                           Number: 4776
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/18/93 12:36p
Subj: Cdrom caddies                           Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

  Hi Mike!
  How much are your cd caddies? And is there a difference between IBM
and Mac caddies?  I really am not sure myself if there is or not.


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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 4777
  To: JOE MCDANIEL                             Date: 09/16/93 12:27p
Subj: Busty Babes 2 2.0                       Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Joe Mcdaniel to Steve Gerweck <=-

 JM> Ill take one as soon as it arrives at the 27.95 price or within,
 JM> send c.o.d. if possible to 1628 N sorenson ln.......Las Vegas,
 JM> NV....89115.... Send to BIG JoE's BBS....Joe McDaniel
 JM> Thanks a million...lemme know if this is ok?

Joe, I don't know what happened, but I did not post that message.  I'm not a
vendor.


Steve




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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 4778
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/16/93 12:28p
Subj: BUSTY BABES II PREORDERS!               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

 -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Steve Gerweck <=-

 SG>How does this one compare to BB III?  Any celeb photos???

 MS> Not as I understand it.  Mostly, if not entirely consisting of pro
 MS> models shot by magazine photogs.  Should be a keeper!

More magazine shots?  That's all BB III has.


Steve

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From: STEVE GERWECK                          Number: 4779
  To: LEE NOGA                                 Date: 09/17/93  1:09p
Subj: Re: BUSTY BABES II PREORD               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 -=> Quoting Lee Noga to Steve Gerweck <=-

 LN> Well, don't recommend any of them, Hehehhehe--Smutware, Ecstasy, BB I,
 LN> PC Pix I,II,III, Hot Pix series (some of them), I know for sure are not
 LN> repressing--If ya seen one ya seen them all IMHO--

Do you have a catalog?  If so, please send me one.  I'll post my address in
my tagline.

 LN> HUgs,

I hope you're female! :)


Steve


... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
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From: DAVID SMITH                            Number: 4780
  To: JEFF COLLINGWOOD                         Date: 09/18/93 11:30a
Subj: Night Owl v10 Pre-Release               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Could you put me on the mailing list for that newsletter?

David T. Smith
1121 Stonetrail
Plano, TX 75023

Thanks...
... OFFLINE 1.52
...............................................................................


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From: STERLING PRICE                         Number: 4781
  To: GEORGE SCOTT                             Date: 09/17/93  6:16a
Subj: sick                                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

GS> How about $10, plus $1 for shipping.  I just bought a CD-ROM
GS> and I don't have
GS> any CD's for the BBS yet :)

    Hi, George.  I'm really looking more for a trade on this disk (Physical
Therapy),  but if I don't get any trade offers on it within a few days,  I will
probably accept your offer.  I will respond on this echo.

Sterling

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From: STERLING PRICE                         Number: 4782
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/17/93  6:20a
Subj: Trade                                   Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

BJ> SP> I have the CD "Physical Therapy"  I would like to trade.  This
BJ> If you don't get any other offers, I'll trade you even for
BJ> this package:
BJ> Ham Radio (Chestnut), O'Conner shareware (oldie), and
BJ> MegaDemo (from PP

    Okay, Bob,  and thanks for your reply.  Still considering offers,  but I
will let you know within a few days.

Sterling

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From: THE SISTER                             Number: 4783
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93  8:48p
Subj: Adult Rom's For Sale                    Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hello All!
        Well I have FAO 1 & 2 for Sale. They are Brand new and I paid $36.99
for each one. I will let them go for $35.00 each. My price didn't include
tax & Shipping or handling. I will pay shipping for you. I also Have T & A 2
the Maxx. I will sell this one for $15.00. It is brand New from Profit Press,
the makers of FAO. It has Famous nudes and text files. I also have Storm III
and Adult Animation Fantasies I, I will let the both go for $40.00 for both.
The FAO's, T & A 2 the MAXX & Storm III are all BBS ready. If you are
intrested in any of them you can reach me here in this echo!
                Sis

 * WCE 1.10/[NR] * Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a tagline writer.


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From: MIKE FURST                             Number: 4784
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/18/93  8:10a
Subj: Received Order                          Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

Mike,
 Wanted to let you know I received ny order in just a few days and
wanted to say thanks!!!
 I have a question on the Precision Mapping CD ROM, are all of the US
Cities included or do you have to buy modules like the program AUTOMAP?
                                       Thanks again,
                                        -- Mike

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From: JOHN ENGLAND                           Number: 4785
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/18/93  7:35a
Subj: For sale-mitsumi                        Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

For sale:
---------
(ONE) Mitsumi internal CD-ROM drive. CRMC-LU005S. Excellent condition. Only a
few months old, with box. Make an offer ! (ONE) Panasonic KX-P2124 24-pin dot
matrix printer. Letter quality, super quiet. Excellent condition. Only a few
months old. Make an offer ! (ONE) Soundblaster Pro (basic). Excellent
condition. Make an offer !

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From: JOHN ENGLAND                           Number: 4786
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/18/93  7:38a
Subj: Sb pro-compatible cd-rom                Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

@SUBJECT:SB PRO-compatible CD-ROM drives                             N Can
someone offer some advice ? I have a SB-PRO sound card and a Mitsumi
CRMC-LU005S CD-ROM drive. Is it at all possible to NOT use the drive's 16-bit
card and just use the SB-PRO's CD-ROM adapter ??? If this is NOT possible,
which drive CAN it be done with and what are the specs/prices ? Any help would
be greatly appreciated ! Thanks !

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From: JOHN ENGLAND                           Number: 4787
  To: MICHAEL RICHARD HANSEN                   Date: 09/18/93  7:45a
Subj: Mitsumi 300ms                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Hi, Michael. I have a used Mitsumi CRMC-LU005S in excellent condition for sale.
I purchased it a few months ago. I still have the box and the receipt.  I will
sell it for about $125.00. If you are interested, let me know. (This is not
John-this is Jeff.)

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From: HANK PETERSON                          Number: 4788
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/17/93  6:31p
Subj: Re: CD's for Women                      Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

On (16 Sep 93) Heather Krause wrote to Hank Peterson...

 HK>     Thanks for the info, but that wasn't my problem. The disk I had it
 HK> on was Ecstasy Hot Pics, not the one(s) you mentioned. And I got it
 HK> to run fine, except that it bombed on several of the files while viewing.

      I found the same thing on Busty Babes too. In one section that had
      15 pages, only about 10 would work properly the rest would send me
      a message that they don't exist when ShowOff tries to bring then up.
      If you find the answer, please let me know.  Thanks

... Changing barnyards won't make a pig turn into a golden goose

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From: ED FORTIN                              Number: 4789
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 09/18/93 12:00a
Subj: Night Owl V10                           Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

I'll take one.........
Leave me a message when there ready to ship and I'll send off the coin!




Ed Fortin
RR7 Perth,Ont
K7H-3C9
Voice 1-631-264-8392
BBS   1-613-264-2675

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From: MIKE ASTIN                             Number: 4790
  To: ROBERT KUMMER                            Date: 09/17/93  9:40p
Subj: CD'S To Trade or Sell                   Refer: NONE
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 >    Anyone want to trade some CD's ???

 > I have the following CD's I would like to trade or
 > sell.

 >    Night Owl's Daytime Express
 >    Night Owl's Business CD
 >    Shareware Explosion II
 >    Wiz-Pak 6-Pak CD
 >    Black Box 4
 >    Pheonix 3

 >  Also have 2 adult title's

 >    After Dark
 >    XXX Extreme

What kind of prices are you asking?

Mike
(703) 977 - 0045 (BBS)

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From: MIKE ASTIN                             Number: 4791
  To: JOEL WHITE                               Date: 09/17/93  9:41p
Subj: Cd Of Bbs Stuff                         Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

 > Does anyone know of any cd's that are all bbs
 > programs?  I don't
 > mean bbs ready stuff for download... I mean door
 > games, front
 > doors, utilities for use in Wildcat, Spitfire, RBBS,
 > etc.
 > I you know of one, please let me know.

If you find out, then let me know!

Mike

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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4792
  To: DONNIE RAYNOR                            Date: 09/18/93  1:31a
Subj: Re: PROBLEM with CD ROM                 Refer: NONE
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>>     Hi,
>>       I was wondering if any could shed some light on a problem
>>       that is about to drive me crazy? I bought a new Mitsumi
>>     internal CD-Rom and installed it in my 386/40mhz IBM clone. I
>>     have a SBPro sound board installed and am using the controler
>>     board that came with the Mitsumi to run the CD-Rom drive.
>>     O.K. this is where it gets strange. After installing the
>>     drive it worked great. Then all of a sudden it just quit
>>     working, when I would go to access the drive the busy light
>>     will light up but nothing happens. At that point I have to
>>     boot the system. I can remove the controller and reinstall it
>>     and it will start working again. The drive will allow me to
>>     use it a couple of times, then sooner or later when I access
>>     the drive the busy will light up and just stay lit. The only
>>     way I can get the drive to turn lose of the CPU is to boot
>>     it. If anyone has any ideas on this one please respond.

Donnie, suggest you check youur IRQ assignment's as this could cause
the problem your having.

We had the same problem on a system we built for a customer and found
we need to change it's address and it worked great after that!

Hope this helps...

Boris Osadciw

... Silver Xpress!...... Simply more bang for your bucks!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4793
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/18/93  1:31a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS                           Refer: NONE
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4794
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/18/93  1:31a
Subj: PANASONIC CDROM                         Refer: NONE
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... Who Killed Superman?
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From: BORIS OSADCIW                          Number: 4795
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/18/93  1:31a
Subj: SPECIAL                                 Refer: NONE
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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4796
  To: RONALD LEON                              Date: 09/17/93  1:56p
Subj: CD Wanted                               Refer: NONE
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RL>I'm looking for Wind Commander 2 on CD. The one that has all the secret
  >missions and speech pack.

Hi Ronald.  Send me your address, and I'll send you my catalog.

Computer Works                                          Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
[phone] Voice
[phone] BBS      Online Credit Card & COD Orders

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From: JIM LAMBERT                            Number: 4797
  To: HEATHER KRAUSE                           Date: 09/17/93  2:43p
Subj: Adult CD for Women                      Refer: NONE
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HK>   Many thanks for your efforts! Looks like a definite possiblity, now
  >   that you've explained more about the contents. I'm unable to swing
  >   a purchase presently... just bought some other stuff, AND I'm having
  >   problems with my drive (don't want to buy more CDs until I get this
  >   figured out). However, I'll archive your message and may be back in
  >   touch if/when things get squared away.

No problem.  My efforts weren't wasted.  Let me know if you have any
questions or need anything.  Thanks!


                                                        Jim...
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From: DAVE WILGA                             Number: 4798
  To: COREY BICCUM                             Date: 09/17/93  7:57p
Subj: Hi speed rom drive?                     Refer: NONE
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CB> wondering where would be the cheapest place to get one.  I am
CB> looking for the dual spin scsi type say like a toshiba.  I am
CB> writing from Vancouver, BC.  The cheapest I've seen this drive
CB> for is $412us  for card, and drive.  So add on the dollar and
CB> it's getting up there in price.  The main thing is I'm kinda

I have the Toshiba 3401B and am TOTALLY pleased with it, though I DID
have CorelSCSI previously installed and am not sure if it will work
without it...

CompUadd price:  $399      p/n: 45884          1-800-627-1985


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From: VINCE ARENAS                           Number: 4799
  To: JOEL WHITE                               Date: 09/17/93  8:41p
Subj: Cd Of Bbs Stuff                         Refer: NONE
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Joel Try the new Night Owl 9 CD Rom.
-> Does anyone know of any cd's that are all bbs programs?  I don't
-> mean bbs ready stuff for download... I mean door games, front
-> doors, utilities for use in Wildcat, Spitfire, RBBS, etc.
-> I you know of one, please let me know.
-> ___
->  X MegaMail 2.10 #0:Fantasy Wilderlands - Best in Fantasy Gaming.
->
-> --- Maximus 2.01wb
->  * Origin: Sonoma Online (1:125/7)

Try the Night Owl 9 Cd rom

Vince


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From: TYRONE THOMASON                        Number: 4800
  To: MIKE SHANNON                             Date: 09/17/93 10:14p
Subj: U.S. Mail                               Refer: NONE
Read: NO                                    Private: No

MS>timing is everything in this ever-changing CD game!  8)

You're right about that.  Next time I'll wait.

     Ty.

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From: DAVID SEITZ                            Number: 4801
  To: RAY HEROLD                               Date: 09/15/93  8:12p
Subj: Night Owl v10 Pre-Release               Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

Please add me to your Mailing list please

David Seitz
403 Pacific Ave.
Lansdale,Pa 19446


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 4802
  To: BILL ALEXANDER                           Date: 09/16/93  2:20p
Subj: Re: CDRoms for sale                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

>> They are only authorized to accept cash or check (according to their
>> manual) and then they charge the receiver an extra .75 for a money-order
>> fee. I gave them the money in cash so you should be getting a
>> money-order.

    I got it today, thanks.
    You are right, but who knows what the post office does?

    BTW, did you like the roms?

Eric


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From: ERIC BRAVICK                           Number: 4803
  To: KEVIN KING                               Date: 09/16/93  2:22p
Subj: CDROMS FOR SALE                         Refer: NONE
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>> Eric Are you a dealer of Cd-Rom's? Do you sell to dealers? I'm looking
>> for a distibutor who eill sell at quanity prices?  Kevin King, Sysop

    I'll sell to dealers, and give quantity discounts.  Netmail me and
we'll talk.

Eric Bravick
USF 3008
4202 E. Fowler Ave.
Tampa, FL. 33620-3008

[phone] (Voice)
[phone] (BBS)
Netmail 1:377/53.0


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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4804
  To: TODD CRAWFORD                            Date: 09/15/93 10:53p
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
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->            ProPhone 1993 7-disc set      50    37
->      I am interested in this set,  do you ship COD, and if so
Hi Todd!

    I'm afraid they're all gone! We can get more in, but it would be the
regular price.

    .\\ichellea
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4805
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/15/93 10:54p
Subj: CD-ROMS                                 Refer: NONE
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-> MS>   .\\ichellea
->
-> Just for grins, what is the correct pronunciation of your name? Is it
-> mi-SHELL-a, MI-sha-LEE, mi-SHELL-e-a,.... Just curious.

Hi Bob!

    Its Mih-shell-ah... Michelle-with-an-A!

    .\\ichellea
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN                     Number: 4806
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93 11:04p
Subj: SHAREWARE EXPLORER                      Refer: NONE
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To everyone looking for shareware CD-ROMs:

   You NEED to consider a new release called Shareware Explorer. Its an
excellent 4 disc set (3 DOS shareware and 1 Windows) covering up to
August of this year. Its very well laid out, no duplication, great file
selection... looks like a lot of care went into this set! One of our
customers said "I'm throwing away my Night Owls. I'll put these four in
my 6-CD changer, and a couple of specialty CDs, and my users will go
crazy!" when he got it. Give us a call about getting a copy at
306-789-4654!

    .\\ichellea

P.S. Don't forget BB2 will be here soon!
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From: G. LARRY WEBB                          Number: 4807
  To: ALVIS COLLIER                            Date: 09/15/93  5:55p
Subj: WINWORD CD-ROM WANTED                   Refer: NONE
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My understanding is the program runs mosttly from the CD ROM, although it does
put a MB or 2 of files on your hard drive -- though not as many as the
traditional disk version.

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From: BILL JONES                             Number: 4808
  To: PAT RICKERSON                            Date: 09/16/93  6:22a
Subj: Re: CD'S                                Refer: NONE
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 Sorry Pat but I couldn't let them go for less than $70.00.
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4809
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/16/93  6:09a
Subj: CD Drive problems                       Refer: NONE
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HK> isn't well suited to handling highly packed CDs, or 3) Since it
BJ> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
BJ>Sounds like a Mitsumi. There was quite a "go-round" about them some
BJ>months back about them in this echo.

    Yup. I'm trying to figure out what the problem is before my warranty
    expires. Perhaps I've just got too much stuff crammed into my
    system case and it's overheating a tad..

    Anyway, not a FORSALE topic. So I'll drop this before the moderator
    has to intervene.

- Heather
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE                         Number: 4810
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/16/93  6:11a
Subj: Your Tagline...                         Refer: NONE
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HK> * DeLuxe* 1.12 #2986 * All the gnu's wee feet leave prints
BJ>(from a guy who owned a local paint store). You must be an NYT reader.

    Not NYT, but NZT. Old Infocom'er. The above tag was theirs.

- Heather
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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4811
  To: BOB JACKSON                              Date: 09/15/93 11:47p
Subj: BUSTY BABES 1 FOR SALE!                 Refer: NONE
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BJ> MS>  All reasonable offers considered.  Please reply here or:  509-4

BJ>Well, ya' didn't give a cutoff date for bids so this is a bit
BJ>open-ended. I'll give you my (one and only) "reasonable" bid of $50.

Thanks Bob.  Current high bid is $150.  I know it's sort of open-ended.
That's because I've always hated those ads where the "sale ends Sunday
at Midnight!!!".  Just a pet-peeve of mine.  I'll just keep 'er rollin'
until I feel comfortable with the high bid, and then I'll cut it loose.

Still working on getting you some Busty #2's, so don't give up hope. 8)

.\\ike

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From: MIKE SHANNON                           Number: 4812
  To: ALL                                      Date: 09/15/93 11:47p
Subj: MONSTER CD-ROM LIST 1/2                 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No

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